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Anonymous No.718039810 >>718039858 >>718040294 >>718040345 >>718040347 >>718040416 >>718040431 >>718040490 >>718041189 >>718041313 >>718041352 >>718045572 >>718045943 >>718046949 >>718048221 >>718050835 >>718052296 >>718052349 >>718052456 >>718052576 >>718053317 >>718054035 >>718055093 >>718062285 >>718062298 >>718063041 >>718063394 >>718063574 >>718063781 >>718064653 >>718064943 >>718064973 >>718065419 >>718066272 >>718066869 >>718067986 >>718068068 >>718070638 >>718071847 >>718073849 >>718073892 >>718075296 >>718076753 >>718077770 >>718078868 >>718079034 >>718079247 >>718080385 >>718081226 >>718081741 >>718081772 >>718082228 >>718082932 >>718086362 >>718087019 >>718090475 >>718090778 >>718094417 >>718094506 >>718099014 >>718099343 >>718101962 >>718102105
Remember when Pokemon had soul?
Anonymous No.718039858 >>718040346 >>718040679 >>718041929 >>718042131 >>718050392 >>718062891 >>718067250 >>718075583 >>718079945 >>718081598 >>718087553 >>718088706 >>718096351
>>718039810 (OP)
White and white 2
Anonymous No.718039870
that surfing ride outfit was really something else
Anonymous No.718040294
>>718039810 (OP)
pic unrelated?
Anonymous No.718040345
>>718039810 (OP)
None of the other eevees even move.
Anonymous No.718040346 >>718047021 >>718051000 >>718056308 >>718066770 >>718081915 >>718091724
>>718039858
>here's your """"soul"""" bro
Anonymous No.718040347
>>718039810 (OP)
this is so stupid
Anonymous No.718040416 >>718056376 >>718056413 >>718071850
>>718039810 (OP)
Were the Z moves a Sentai reference?
Anonymous No.718040431
>>718039810 (OP)
Pic not related, clearly.
Anonymous No.718040490
>>718039810 (OP)
Umm this was after [last game before I aged out of Pokemon] so it was shit actually.
Anonymous No.718040679
>>718039858
lul white feels like a shitty generic clone of a pokemon game with chinese designs. soulless garbage
Anonymous No.718041189
>>718039810 (OP)
I will play devil's advocate and say that there's still soul present, but the quality of the games overall and specifically the singleplayer aspects is what has dropped tremendously.
Anonymous No.718041313 >>718047150
>>718039810 (OP)
I do, it's a shame the developers forgot since they peaked very early on.
Anonymous No.718041352 >>718041872 >>718047565 >>718064469 >>718090041
>>718039810 (OP)
>unleasesh its full-force
are pokemon not gendered anymore?
Anonymous No.718041872
>>718041352
When has pronouns ever been programmed to be taken into account as far as moves being used?
Anonymous No.718041929
>>718039858
fpbp thread should have ended here
Anonymous No.718042131
>>718039858
The KANTOOO council ain't gonna like this one brother...
Anonymous No.718042667 >>718045684 >>718046689 >>718046828 >>718047421 >>718050952 >>718052446 >>718053121 >>718063089 >>718063151 >>718063737 >>718064896 >>718068738 >>718074208 >>718075815 >>718079936 >>718087212 >>718088459 >>718091019
Now you get to find out what your parents saw when you were rambling about Mewtwo and Pokemon VHS tapes all those years ago.
Anonymous No.718045572
>>718039810 (OP)
uh
Anonymous No.718045684
>>718042667
>wo chien
>wo chien
chien pao bros..
Anonymous No.718045943 >>718051097 >>718055027
>>718039810 (OP)
Yes I also remember that one time Gamefreak seethed so fucking hard about Japanese kids preferring Youkai Watch that they made an entire generation rip it off, further ruining the poor balance that was already shattered by the presence of megas.
And then Youkai Watch died.
Anonymous No.718046334 >>718046418 >>718047114 >>718047749 >>718048334 >>718052308 >>718052376 >>718052884 >>718056107
>meanwhile in some literal who chinkshit gacha hellhole
Just fucking DELETE pokemon company already holy shit
Anonymous No.718046418 >>718046527
>>718046334
That looks like shit as well
Anonymous No.718046527
>>718046418
nah its cool
Anonymous No.718046689
>>718042667
Klawf is a Gen 2 design that got lost
Anonymous No.718046828
>>718042667
They really are fucking terrible now, aside from the sex cat line I don't like any of these.
Anonymous No.718046949
>>718039810 (OP)
Yeah in the 90's it was fantastic. No idea what your pic is of though sorry.
Anonymous No.718047021
>>718040346
it's sovl because it's inspired by USA
Anonymous No.718047114
>>718046334
damn that looks cool
Anonymous No.718047150 >>718047905 >>718050908 >>718051417 >>718052209 >>718062589 >>718095639
>>718041313
The Battle Frontier is such an insanely forced meme for nostalgiafags
Anonymous No.718047421
>>718042667
Greavard and Houndstone are cool
Anonymous No.718047565
>>718041352
Pokemon have always been its
Anonymous No.718047749 >>718053227 >>718056442 >>718056560 >>718056679 >>718069708
>>718046334
Looks like the same game I make this crappy webm for
Anonymous No.718047905
>>718047150
It's great at filtering zoomers
Anonymous No.718047960
>Remember when Pokemon had soul?
15+ years ago, yes.
Anonymous No.718048221
>>718039810 (OP)
It had soul at some point?
Anonymous No.718048334
>>718046334
>long ass cutscene I'm just going to want to skip after the 5th time of watching it
Anonymous No.718048552 >>718048881 >>718090937
There is genuinely not even one single thing worth playing after gen 4.
Anonymous No.718048881
>>718048552
new pokemon snap was okay
Anonymous No.718050312 >>718051271 >>718055353 >>718055460 >>718081425 >>718081585 >>718094767
>Billion $ company
>Indie Chinese sweat shop
Anonymous No.718050392 >>718050738 >>718075524
>>718039858
you're right, however its dumb af that white/black 2 have alternate difficulty modes only unlockable AFTER beating the game, and as version exclusives for easy/hard to boot.
Anonymous No.718050738 >>718050757
>>718050392
Wait what?
Anonymous No.718050757 >>718051815
>>718050738
https://www.serebii.net/black2white2/easychallengemode.shtml
Anonymous No.718050835
>>718039810 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5yfqswr8_8
Anonymous No.718050908
>>718047150
nostalgiafagging doesn't work for pokemon. i played 3 hours of scarlet and it was so painfully fucking ugly and boring, shit looks and plays worse than the games from 20 years ago
Anonymous No.718050952
>>718042667
How can clover have a better roster than official pokemon games?
Anonymous No.718051000
>>718040346
Where is the dancing for no reason one?
Anyway I played in jp so it was sovl for me
Anonymous No.718051097
>>718045943
>And then Youkai Watch died.
This is the funniest part for me. They basically threw gen 7 and Z under the bus for nothing
Anonymous No.718051271 >>718051307 >>718051762 >>718051896
>>718050312
no offense but that's also 3D models vs a drawing
Anonymous No.718051307
>>718051271
The point of going to 3D is that it's more efficient than drawing animations
Anonymous No.718051417
>>718047150
t. Unovatranny
Anonymous No.718051762 >>718051884 >>718051893 >>718056265
>>718051271
Using a 3D model and dragging it through a scene is extremely easier than a cinematic movie.
Anonymous No.718051815
>>718050757
I... I didn't beat the game.
Anonymous No.718051884
>>718051762
why th efuck are all the clips of those animations in 480p or worse. Post some fucking 4k webms of the damn animations if they're so good
Anonymous No.718051893 >>718051989 >>718052016
>>718051762
Do you play the games? There's a reason the animations don't last that long.
Anonymous No.718051896
>>718051271
If they're incapable of making a good 3D game, they can switch to 2D
Anonymous No.718051989 >>718052151 >>718052382 >>718055225
>>718051893
Both animations last the same length of time. It's literally in the video.
And yeah, Signature moves, especially of legendaries should be impactful. No need to be Sephiroth Nova lenght, but 10 seconds? You can always disable the animations in the menus brah.
Anonymous No.718052016 >>718052382
>>718051893
what reason?
Anonymous No.718052151 >>718052418
>>718051989
fuck that's cool, but that's regular Zacian, there's no crowned?
Anonymous No.718052209 >>718055164
>>718047150
you're just bad at the game
Anonymous No.718052296
>>718039810 (OP)
>that outfit
what the fuck? isn't this a kids game?
Anonymous No.718052308
>>718046334
>my stadium fight just destroyed the entire city
Anonymous No.718052349
>>718039810 (OP)
The character designs are worse than the Pokemon designs and I dont say that lightly
Anonymous No.718052376 >>718080587
>>718046334
>those damage numbers
I didn't know nippon ichi made a knock off pokemon game wtf
Anonymous No.718052382 >>718052557 >>718055712
>>718052016
Competitive. Turns shouldn't last that long in a multiplayer match.
>>718051989
>Both animations last the same length of time.
They do not. You can see in the first comparison with ORAS that it includes the move selection just to plump it out. Whoever made that webm couldn't even find a third thing to compare with the mobile game.
Anonymous No.718052418 >>718052498
>>718052151
Didnt see a Crowned animation, but the game made an Okami skin that look cool.
Anonymous No.718052446 >>718055967
>>718042667
I like them honestly, just don't like the retarded names
Anonymous No.718052456
>>718039810 (OP)
The thing that triggers me the most here is that I LIKE the concept of eevee being usable by being buffed by all his evos..


but the process is shown by them standing idle poses of the 3D models and some generic ball effect happens after. This could have looked cool
Anonymous No.718052498 >>718052652
>>718052418
Where are you getting all these webm from? I want to see them all in as close to highest quality as possible.

I hate that I like these knowing full well they are from some chinkshit gachaslop aimed at killing wallets
Anonymous No.718052557 >>718052773 >>718063846 >>718072351
>>718052382
Then you can have two animations, a real one and a fast one, just like when animations are removed from the menus. It's not that hard really. Gamefreak just does not care about the game because 60% of their profits is from Toys and Plushes. Games are only 10-15 % of it.
Anonymous No.718052576
>>718039810 (OP)
I wonder if we're ever getting another new eevee evo.
Anonymous No.718052652 >>718052809 >>718096157 >>718096795
>>718052498
It's from Pokemon Incoming, a Mobile game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30E8sfylGR8
Anonymous No.718052773 >>718052815
>>718052557
>Then you can have two animations, a real one and a fast one
Literally every turn based rpg series would just do the fast one.
Anonymous No.718052809 >>718052837 >>718061954
>>718052652
>look up pokemon incoming (it's actually called pocket incoming)
>literally NO website on google at all
>not even a wiki for this
????????????
Anonymous No.718052815 >>718053270
>>718052773
But that's what comp players already do bro. You think Comp players do the Z moves animations in Competitions?
Anonymous No.718052837 >>718078382
>>718052809
They might have changed names due to lawsuits. They have a discord and it seem to have changed to Pet Adventure.
https://discord.com/invite/pet-adventure
Anonymous No.718052854
In fact I do.
Anonymous No.718052884
>>718046334
This is just Disgaeag, d00d
Anonymous No.718053121 >>718053208 >>718056053 >>718076291
>>718042667
A big issue with modern pokemon is the lack of straightforward cool designs. They took Sugi’s idea of introducing a β€œmemorable flaw” to make designs stand out, and ran it into the ground. Luxray is still a design with an explicit β€œcool” direction, being a dark and edgy looking lion, even though its proportions were slightly altered to make it cuter. Most nu-gen designs are just fucking lame and focus on making forgettable FOTM jokes. For every Golisopod, Corviknight, or Ceruledge, there are ten times as many useless and shitty meme designs for Tendies to onions out over.
Anonymous No.718053208
>>718053121
that and they're pretty uninspired designs
Anonymous No.718053227
>>718047749
Reminds me of the Eternal Darkness summon from FFIX.
Anonymous No.718053270
>>718052815
I don't think the turn off animations setting exists for multiplayer.
Anonymous No.718053317 >>718053815
>>718039810 (OP)
USUM has soul, but fuck the z-moves. I hated that you had free access to an instant panic-button one-shot to use to wipe out a trainer's ace.
Also the gen's trainers all having 1-2 Pokemon was dumb as hell too.
Despite the gen's issues and the tiny map, I still call gen 7 the last bastion of sovl before the Switch games snuffed it out. Shit man, gen 8 killed my interest in the whole franchise, that takes some effort considering I started with Blue and still have the OG Pokemon soundtrack disc at my parents' house somewhere.
Anonymous No.718053815 >>718054841
>>718053317
this.
i get why people hate gen 7 but i think they at least still tried (moreso in the original games, ultra makes most of the gameplay better but makes other things worse), i really don't see that from any of the switch games, though in my case despite swsh being the final nail i've heard legends arceus is ok.
Anonymous No.718054035 >>718054674
>>718039810 (OP)
vid non related
Anonymous No.718054674
>>718054035
i applaud your wit but someone already made that comment sis
Anonymous No.718054841 >>718055421 >>718079287
>>718053815
Anonymous No.718055027 >>718055771
>>718045943
Megas fixed the balance issues from gen 4's extreme power creep and gen 5's weather wars. Mega Kangaskhan, however, is an abomination that never should have been made.
Anonymous No.718055093
>>718039810 (OP)
>cutscenes
waiting for you to post it OP
Anonymous No.718055164 >>718062279
>>718052209
project less when you need npc's content and can't beat the best trainers online
Anonymous No.718055225
>>718051989
what is this gay unlimited blade works shit
Anonymous No.718055353 >>718063364
>>718050312
>generic move literally any pokemon can use vs signature move
retarded disingenuous comparison
Anonymous No.718055421 >>718065518
>>718054841
W-WAILORD... I KNEEL
YOU CAN BREED WITH ALL THE SKITTIES IN THE REGION
Anonymous No.718055460 >>718061779
>>718050312
both are garbage cutscenes that players aren't going to tolerate
Anonymous No.718055485
It's over
Anonymous No.718055712
>>718052382
>Competitive
the cancer and the reason why fighting system is the same as 30 years ago? gamefreak should stop pandering to them
Anonymous No.718055771
>>718055027
They kind of took the power creep even further beyond by adding 100 minmaxed stat points to many things that didn't need it, making the game even more centralized because you were forced to run the most broken options too. The worst part is that there was no way to make them less absurd either, as even if there was a BST limit to what was allowed to get a mega you'd still end up with the Kangaskhan you mentioned, Mega Beedrill which was basically proto-Kartana with how minmaxed it was, and Mega Mawile which was a plain retarded idea.
I can't wait to see how fucking retarded the ZA megas will go now that they even forgot how to design them.
Anonymous No.718055967
>>718052446
what's wrong with the names
Anonymous No.718056053 >>718059213
>>718053121
>Most nu-gen designs are just fucking lame and focus on making forgettable FOTM jokes. For every Golisopod, Corviknight, or Ceruledge, there are ten times as many useless and shitty meme designs for Tendies to onions out over.
So....every gen past 1?
Anonymous No.718056107
>>718046334
>wow look at the 600 gorillion damage figures and the shitty eyecandy animation you'll grow tired of after the 3rd time
Anonymous No.718056265
>>718051762
you're comparing live-service gachashit full of eyecandy to tempt whales to buy in that gets character packs in waves to a whole game that ships in a box
your comparison is disingenuous to say the least
Anonymous No.718056308 >>718081504
>>718040346
It's soul because the game was still complete.
Anonymous No.718056376 >>718057937
>>718040416
Mostly they were just an attempt at rebalancing the "Mega" mechanic by giving it to every pokemon and not just a select few, something that they keep doing to this day, Dynamax is like a combination of both megas (Gigantamax) and Z moves (Every single pokemon can go Dynamax), while Terastalization is more of a Z move thing (No special treatment for some pokemon, just the same treatment all accross the board like with Z moves).
Anonymous No.718056413 >>718056476 >>718066180 >>718071850
>>718040416
No, they were stolen from Yokai Watch
Anonymous No.718056442
>>718047749
Jrpgs will never not be funny
Anonymous No.718056476 >>718056552
>>718056413
Gen 7 in general was an attempt at copying Yokai Watch for some reason, the silly animation and slice of life tone in the anime also being part of it.
Anonymous No.718056552 >>718056592
>>718056476
>for some reason
Because Yokai Watch was kicking Pokemon's ass in Japan during Gen 6.
Anonymous No.718056560
>>718047749
>White mega ray
i want it
Anonymous No.718056592 >>718076412
>>718056552
Yeah, but YW was a flavor of the month thing and now it lies forgotten, but the damage they did to gen 7 by trying to be YW will forever be a stain on Pokemon.
Anonymous No.718056679
>>718047749
fug
Anonymous No.718057937 >>718061402 >>718061653 >>718062562 >>718076497
>>718056376
Why did they remove pursuit btw?
Actually, why did they remove a fuckton of moves?
Anonymous No.718059213 >>718061607
>>718056053
The only memey/uncool older gen was 2, and even that had its fair share of cooler designs. Scizor, Steelix, Tyranitar, Feraligatr, Skarmory, Sneasel, Houndoom, Crobat, Lugia and Ho-oh, and the beast trio. Later gens you can count the number of coolmons on maybe one hand per gen, if that.
Anonymous No.718061402 >>718076597
>>718057937
Because a lot of moves became ubiquitous in the metagame and they wanted to change things up. Scald got a severe reduction in distribution, for instance.
Anonymous No.718061607 >>718062137 >>718065857
>>718059213
What are you talking about, gen 3 has tons of new mons, that was like the main theme of the gen!
Gen 4 has tons of cool evos together with quite a few new cool mons.
Gen 5 was kinda meh and had 0 cool mons at the start of the game
Anonymous No.718061653 >>718062158 >>718062336 >>718063532
>>718057937
Removing Return was one of the biggest crimes. Hell, removing the friendship stat was stupid too, it should've been expanded, not removed. Give kids more reasons to befriend their Pokemon, shit man. (Should've been nerfed from USUM's overpowered shit though, ha.)
>USUM has custom animations for Pokemon Refresh, custom entry animations, custom reactions to petting and hitting (for the people who keep accidentally hitting their Pokemon)
>both mainline Switch games replace it out for the most generic shit imaginable and just recycle combat animations despite the increased hardware and the cut dexes
Anonymous No.718061779
>>718055460
funny thing is pokemon fans 100% tolerated the official one, and much worse things after
Anonymous No.718061954
>>718052809
Because it's a Chinese bootleg. The only way a non-chink learns about it's existence is randomly stumbling on one of the ultimate moves compilations on youtube.
Anonymous No.718062137
>>718061607
>No cool mons
I'm sorry but gen 5 had the foreskin thug
Anonymous No.718062158 >>718062406
>>718061653
Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee is them doing that to the extreme, to the point of having pokemon heal status ailments spontaneously or survive lethal blows. And it was worse for it.
Anonymous No.718062279
>>718055164
You tell him sis. While you're at it kindly post your world champ trophies with a time stamp.
Anonymous No.718062285 >>718062720
>>718039810 (OP)
I'm hopeful about ZA
It'll be the first one I've bought since Pearl
Anonymous No.718062298 >>718063353 >>718063368 >>718063534 >>718064619 >>718079373 >>718088823
>>718039810 (OP)
as long as mawile exists, it will always have soul
Anonymous No.718062336 >>718062720
>>718061653
Friendship was a pointless mechanic though. It went up automatically just by playing the game and gave you a broken move for it which did nothing aside from "Hit very hard"

You had to go out of your way to make your pokemon hate you and it also had very little impact on the game.

Like why even have the mechanic
Anonymous No.718062406 >>718062720 >>718063532
>>718062158
Didn't it start with x and y?
Anonymous No.718062562
>>718057937
>Why did they remove pursuit btw?
Gamefreak is dumb and doesn't understand or care about the balance of their games
>Actually, why did they remove a fuckton of moves?
Lazy
Anonymous No.718062589
>>718047150
It's taken me a very long time but I've completed Factory, Dome and Arena and I'm still having fun.
Anonymous No.718062720 >>718062961
>>718062285
>making plans to buy a game before you know anything about it
At least wait until you get more info about the game, don't be like those Star Wars fans who watched 7-8-9 on each release repeating the "it's Star Wars, I'm SURE this next one will be good!" line each time.

>>718062336
That's why it should've been expanded, not thrown away. Refresh/Amie had kinda split it into three stats (even though only one really mattered).
Should be a more active thing to raise rather than players getting 99% of it just by walking through the game normally and fighting stuff. Refresh/Amie had the right idea, building friendship by petting and feeding, that's a nice little bonus for kids, and an added bit of soul to the games, forming a more personal connection with your Pokemon.
Add more variety to what you can do with them, maybe you can upgrade your tools and brushes, maybe you just start out with petting but have to buy the other tools as key items through the game (the SE curing one for sure should be later/last), etc. There's so many ways they could've improved the system, made the friendship system more involved, but nah, just yeet that whole thing out the window.
I always thought the hate mechanic was stupid though.

>>718062406
Not that anon, but it was simpler in XY/USUM, IIRC LGPE took it to the extreme and it was basically just outright cheating instead of just randomly dodging or randomly getting a free crit. Don't quote me on it though.
Anonymous No.718062891
>>718039858
Fpbp as always
Anonymous No.718062961
>>718062720
>At least wait until you get more info about the game
I've played games long enough to know if I'll like it from a video
Anonymous No.718063041
>>718039810 (OP)
>dude look at all our heckin cute merchandisable foxes (you should chase moonbreon card dude !!)
could not be more devoid of soul
Anonymous No.718063089
>>718042667
not even subtle about the chink pandering
Anonymous No.718063151 >>718063454 >>718063573 >>718063689 >>718065059 >>718065554 >>718065823 >>718065874 >>718066118 >>718068602 >>718093856 >>718099993
>>718042667
Unpopular truth: Gen 9 designs are the best new designs since Gen 5.

1 > (power gap) > 3 > 2 > 4 > 5 > 9 > 6 > 8 > 7
Anonymous No.718063353
>>718062298
Uoh...
Anonymous No.718063364 >>718063760 >>718064445 >>718081546
>>718055353
Z-moves are the game's ultimate attacks and only Pokemon that meet certain criteria can use them, not any Pokemon. The fact they put so little effort into the game's main gimmick is disgusting.
Anonymous No.718063368
>>718062298
Sexo...
Anonymous No.718063394
>>718039810 (OP)
No, it was always infantile slop for toddlers.
Anonymous No.718063454 >>718063480 >>718093942
>>718063151
Swap 1 and 3, and put 4 behind 6

Gen 4 designs are fucking dogshit
Anonymous No.718063480
>>718063454
4's designs are bad, yes, but still better than 6's.
Anonymous No.718063532
>>718062406
I didn't play x or y, those are on my emulator backlog. In LGPE you'd get random rolls for shaking off status or surviving lethal hits when friendship was high enough. It's not even a bad idea in concept for what anon here >>718061653
was talking about with expanding friendship, because it is a lot more flavorful than getting an extra 2 damage on return, but the games were just so braindead easy to begin with that they never felt impactful, just like you were snowballing fights you were already having nearly 0 trouble with to begin with.
You want friendship to matter and feel good in a way that won't further break an already easy entry? Have a side quest that unlocks a friendship modulator for your pokeballs, where if the wild pokemon is going to break out, you get an individual low roll RNG chance with each pokemon at full friendship, and if that roll makes you catch it instead then have the game tell you it was your bond with X pokemon that did it. Then you know you caught a pokemon you'd otherwise still be needing to fuss with and it's because of your friendship with that pokemon specifically, by name.
Anonymous No.718063534 >>718064619
>>718062298
You know she's the best mon because she has one hyperautistic jap who named his entire online presence after her pumping out top tier art of her on the regular.
Anonymous No.718063573
>>718063151
I would put 5 before 4 and I would put the power gap after gen 3 and 2. Idk anything about gens past 6 though.
Anonymous No.718063574
>>718039810 (OP)
>Instead of a single message telling you that Eevee everything rose it needs 10
Gamefreak is easily one of the luckiest devs in history, such a bunch of incompetent hacks with a gold mine like Pokemon
Anonymous No.718063689
>>718063151
They chose the wrong path to go with design, they went X when they should've gone Y
Anonymous No.718063737
>>718042667
Good ones: Lechonk, Houndstone, Dodonzo and Wo Chien
Anonymous No.718063760
>>718063364
>Z-moves are the game's ultimate attacks
They're all also generic and have to be usable by every mon except for the ones that are exclusive to a pokemon and have far better animation than the mobile game and most other non-Atlus monster tamer but that defeats the narrative you're trying to force so let's not mention that.
I don't have a webm so have a Googled gif.
Anonymous No.718063781
>>718039810 (OP)
It's funny that I have literally no idea if you've posted this as evidence of SOUL or lack thereof
Anonymous No.718063846 >>718065721
>>718052557
>Then you can have two animations, a real one and a fast one,
Absolutely retarded idea. The amount of work that would take is insane.
Anonymous No.718064269
I didn't really like sun/moon but I'm not sure why
Anonymous No.718064445
>>718063364
>person bitching about animations doesn’t even play the fucking games he’s complaining about
Anonymous No.718064469
>>718041352
Animals are its
Anonymous No.718064581
5 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 7 > 1 > 9 > 6 > 8
BW - BW2 - HGSS are the holy trinity
Change my mind.
Anonymous No.718064619
>>718062298
>>718063534
Based Mawaifu
Anonymous No.718064653
>>718039810 (OP)
Yes, it peaked at Gen 2 then coasted downwards gracefully until gen 5 where it did a nosedive. I say that despite Rusemon being my favorite Poke.
Gen 2 > Gen 4 > Gen 3 > Gen 6 > Gen 5 > The rest fighting at the bottom including Gen 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP0m-PJozWo
Anonymous No.718064896
>>718042667
No because my mom thought Pikachu was cute and my dad thought Nidoking, Aerodactyl and Charizard were fucking awesome despite both of them being literal boomers.
These are all fucking garbage.
Anonymous No.718064943
>>718039810 (OP)
>Remember when Pokemon had soul?
So never then? Pokemon is only enjoyed by people who didn't grow up enough to realize it was shit.
Anonymous No.718064973
>>718039810 (OP)
yeah whatever sex with eevee
Anonymous No.718065059 >>718065313 >>718066819 >>718076736 >>718081987
>>718063151
Hate for Gen 6-8 designs is purely β€œmuh dexcut” gen war bullshit, if somebody doesn’t put 4-5 near the bottom it’s impossible for me to take them seriously
Anonymous No.718065156 >>718066338
>oh man gen 1-3 are so good
>meanwhile the average gen 1-3 movepool
Anonymous No.718065313 >>718065371 >>718090585
>>718065059
Dexit wasn't until Gen 8, retard, people hated the Gen 6 and 7 designs long before that
Anonymous No.718065371
>>718065313
No, Gen 6/7/8 all got lumped into β€œle downfall of Pokemon” narrative because of the dex cut, none of those Pokemon were as bad as
>A FUCKING ICECREAM
Anonymous No.718065419
>>718039810 (OP)
Sure do.
Anonymous No.718065518
>>718055421
Here a link to the True Pokemon Sizes mod
https://gamebanana.com/mods/336950
Anonymous No.718065554
>>718063151
1 > (power gap) > 3 > 2 > 4 > 6 > 5 > (power gap) > the rest

FTFY
Anonymous No.718065721 >>718066895 >>718068245
>>718063846
>amount of work would be insane for Signature moves to have special animations
Brah. This is the literal highest grossing franchise in the world. If you cant have a special animation for the ultimate move for your Legendaries and Mythics, and instead do a Drag and drop animation that takes an intern maybe 10 min on Flash, you should not be taken seriously.

We are talking, at max, about 100 special animations. There is only 71 Legendaries and 23 Mythicals. Give each of them a special animation and you are already doing more than 99% of the franchise.
Anonymous No.718065823
>>718063151
Unpopular truth:
gen 1 and 2 dex are pretty ass and the love for them is fuelled by nostalgia
gen 3 is when the monster design his its stride

started with genwun and was part of the craze before you try and deflect by calling me zoomer
Anonymous No.718065857
>>718061607
By β€œlater gens” I’m referring to 5-9.
Anonymous No.718065874 >>718067397 >>718067875
>>718063151
>Gen 9 designs are the best new designs since Gen 5.
Absolutely fucking not. Holy shit, what a terrible opinion. It was so bad that even the fucking porn produced dipped.

No seriously, look at it. Who the fuck thinks pinstripe orange shorts with some weird ass polo looks good? Why are there so many fucking colors going in 4 different directions? Either go with Orange/Blue or Green/Red as the main colors, not both. And this is one of the better ones.
Anonymous No.718065947 >>718066980 >>718072640
Palworld will win.
Anonymous No.718066118
>>718063151
Alola mons are kino though?
Anonymous No.718066180
>>718056413
>pose activating an attack is stolen....by a end-of-episode actual dance
Ok.
Anonymous No.718066272 >>718067089
>>718039810 (OP)
yes
Anonymous No.718066338
>>718065156
The developers intended TMs to be very important at the time. Level up learnsets are small but in gen 1 and 2 every pokemon could learn all sorts of tm shit like fire blast and blizzard.
Anonymous No.718066770 >>718072624 >>718076816 >>718081196
>>718040346
>is that an arbitrary roadblock?
>oh god no my game experience is ruined
You are literally the worst an absolute fucking scumbag of a human that ruined an entire hobby with your normalfaggotry. Fuck off videogames forever or stick to playing minecraft and nothing else. Pick one
Anonymous No.718066819
>>718065059
Gen 6 is kind of like Fire Emblem Awakening in that people overhate it for introducing some bad elements that GF proceeded to double down on in later iterations. In a vacuum, gen 6 is pretty solid in pokemon design. I liked that the ratata and pidgy of the game were actually decent for going through it. It made the huge jump to 3D modeling every pokemon for the first time in a mainline game. And it added a lot of nice features. Trainer customization, diagonal movement, easy berry farming, etc. Roller skates were fun, the EV training minigame introduced people into pokeautism in a decent way. It introduced a brand new type, and while people sometimes bitch about it being "too strong", nobody ever seemed to mind steel in gen 2 which is also extremely strong for a type. This is my own opinion, but I also like that its 3D sprites in the overworld, but when you fight someone, they give you a 2D portrait cut in. Megas, in a vacuum, are fine overall and was a decent gimmick that could and did help out some prior shitmons. The problem is that GF insists on focusing on a different gimmick for each mainline game now instead of just dripping in more megas with each game, so it retroactively feels cheap.

There were some problems. The map design was a loop (though this is coming off of a circle for gen 5). And exp share made the game stupidly easy, which again was something that GF doubled down on for later games. I would have personally kept the old exp share, and then post game it could be upgraded to nu exp share for easier collecting/training. But overall, its not nearly as bad as people like to paint it. Id take an X/Y over SwSh or Scat/Vomit
Anonymous No.718066869
>>718039810 (OP)
Yeah, in 1996.
Anonymous No.718066895
>>718065721
>This is the literal highest grossing franchise in the world
Completely irrelevant. Making money doesn't make an unreasonable task any more reasonable.
Anonymous No.718066980
>>718065947
Palworld is a base builder game
I really don’t give a fuck about them
Anonymous No.718067089 >>718078635
>>718066272
>mfw I brought ogrepon just to deal the final blow
It was satisfying
Anonymous No.718067250 >>718067694
>>718039858
HGSS was better.
Anonymous No.718067397 >>718067935
>>718065874
1 they’re obviously talking about creature designs
2 Nemona has huge boobs for a pokegirl in game it’s actually crazy
Anonymous No.718067694
>>718067250
That was before them
Anonymous No.718067875
>>718065874
Nemona looks much better in game
Anonymous No.718067935 >>718068102
>>718067397
>obviously talking about the pokemon
Plenty of people are retarded on /v/, you're a prime example. There are two sides to the coin with pokemon designs: the pokemon and the people. If you want to specify one or the other then specify one or the other. And anon is right, outside of Nemona the human designs are largely fucking trash.
The pokemon designs you can at least have an argument about. And there I'd say that just making half the pokemon into slightly rougher or metal versions with the same fucking ability and the worst names of all time is lazy as hell. The actual callbacks that they took thought into changing like the tentacool line or wugtrio or clodsire are pretty decent, but "dude what if it was a robot" is lazy and bad.
Anonymous No.718067986 >>718068025 >>718068056 >>718068108 >>718068469
>>718039810 (OP)
can't relate
Anonymous No.718068025
>>718067986
Looks good
Anonymous No.718068056
>>718067986
Holy shit that looks awful. Better than pokemon sure but that's a low bar to clear.
Anonymous No.718068068
>>718039810 (OP)
Depending on how old you are that's when "the last good PokΓ©mon game" was. We are currently at "Sword and Shield at least had SOVL" against Scarlet & Violet.
Anonymous No.718068102 >>718068407
>>718067935
The picture he is responding to and the start of the conversation chain is literally a picture of the Gen 9 Pokemon only it is contextually obvious we are talking about the Pokemon.
Anonymous No.718068108 >>718068613
>>718067986
indeed
Anonymous No.718068245 >>718072535
>>718065721
>about 100 special animations. There is only 71 Legendaries and 23 Mythicals. Give each of them a special animation and you are already doing more than 99% of the franchise.
Consider that this is a quarter of a game's roster not including any potential variants like the galarian legends. You also haven't included the starters which adds another 30, 33 including the hisui evos. Oh and mascot mon like Eevee and Pikachu, the Eeveelutions might get some as well.
Speaking of forms, any legendaries and mythicals with alternate forms would have to be doubled, tripled or even quadrupled like with the DP origin forms, Shaymin or Deoxys.
Do you see how this has ballooned well beyond that 100 number now?
No other video game series does this because it's a completely unrealistic goal even SMT V only had about 66 or so not counting Bino moves and a lot are nothing animations like Die for Me where Alice just points a finger and nonsense assets fly around.

You think you know what you're talking about anon but you're talking from the perspective of a pokefag who thinks that they can do more just because they have money.
If you played more games than just pokemon you'd know why what you're asking for isn't feasible.
Anonymous No.718068392 >>718071441
Even the shittest Pokemon game is still enjoyable to me.
Sit back, catch ' mons and do battles.
Anonymous No.718068407 >>718068602 >>718074417 >>718078637
>>718068102
You are contextually an idiot in regards to this conversation, and the gen 9 paradox forms are some of the worst things I've seen in a long long time. What kind of fucking name is "Iron hands" or "Iron Moth", what is that dogshit? I could almost excuse past forms in the context of a primitive people not having proper language or naming conventions so they just put two descriptors together, but there is no excuse for the robot ones and they also look awful. Look at this trash, and it's called "Iron Thorns". It's not even a grass type. It doesn't have any thorns whatsoever. Even if you accept that anon is talking about the pokemon designs specifically he's still an idiot.
Anonymous No.718068469
>>718067986
The only good one here is Beelstar.
Gundramon is literally just in a near static pose as the camera spins around it and Magnakidmon just swaps out to a new model with absolutely no animation outside of the very, very small tendrils.

I like Digimon and all, most likely more than you but this is Dragonball GT tier.
Anonymous No.718068602 >>718068938
>>718068407
> doesn't have any thorns whatsoever. Even if you accept that anon is talking about the pokemon designs specifically
I’m not the anon you’re responding to, but it’s obvious that’s what >>718063151 is referring to. You are retarded, plain and simple.
Anonymous No.718068613 >>718068872
>>718068108
That's actually even worse than pokemon. At least the pokemon scratches when you do a claw move.
Anonymous No.718068738
>>718042667
This is the first time I've seen most of those on this list.
Anonymous No.718068872 >>718069030
>>718068613
I'm pretty sure the amount of animations per mon never goes beyond 4 in CS. If I remember right you usually get
Unique
A second unique for a select few mon
Skill animation
Basic attack
Anonymous No.718068938
>>718068602
Good for you, please continue to go to bat for your gay crush while he defends trash gen 9 designs. I'm sure he'll get back to you on discord with a loving DM for the e-protection. If you're not going to defend gen 9's designs then you're tacitly admitting that your boyfriend is a retard for liking them, he won't be happy when he sees that.
Iron thorns isn't even a steel type either, by the way. Great design. If only there was some pokemon out there that properly fit the theeme of "iron thorns". Can't think of one, vertainly doesn't exist in gen 9 if they ever did before because of dex cuts.
Anonymous No.718069030
>>718068872
A heal move, speed boost move, and a claw attack move sharing animations is utter trash. Whatever number they got to it's still hilariously inadequate.
Anonymous No.718069708
>>718047749
>But it missed!
Anonymous No.718070638 >>718070694 >>718072178
>>718039810 (OP)
Sun/Moon was pretty soulless overall but had some saving graces at least.
Anonymous No.718070694 >>718070749 >>718070750 >>718071776 >>718097661 >>718098664
>>718070638
The girl is generic anime loli and the mon looks like shit.
Anonymous No.718070749 >>718071103
>>718070694
Go away.
Anonymous No.718070750 >>718071103
>>718070694
gayest post on 4chan, including /hm/
Anonymous No.718071103 >>718071205 >>718071369 >>718071776
>>718070749
>>718070750
Doood, what if fish...
But made out of fish!

While the loli is just cumbait and not the point of pokemon
Anonymous No.718071205 >>718071898
>>718071103
you are very gay and very brown
Anonymous No.718071369 >>718071898
>>718071103
You cannot stand against the united might of two posts made within 1 second of each other. I told you to go away, now do so.
Anonymous No.718071441
>>718068392
Honestly same, anon. Even when the devs half-ass it or stuff looks jank, there's still something inherently comfy about running around, catching mons, and dunking some kid's level 13 Scatterbug with a pseudo-legendary. It's like a warm bowl of mid-tier nostalgia soup that I’ll still slurp every gen.
Anonymous No.718071725 >>718071897 >>718072063 >>718072437
so they are committed to not doing an eeveelution of every element? seems like such an easy path to take for free $$ but gamefreak will never make a non retarded decision
Anonymous No.718071776
>>718071103
>>718070694
honest truthnuke
Anonymous No.718071847
>>718039810 (OP)
I checked out during S&M spoilers, but now I've been playing Sword. Honestly it's still pretty fun when you go in blind. Not knowing the new pokemon, or even which ones ARE actually new to this generation makes it a different experience.
Anonymous No.718071850
>>718040416
>>718056413
They are clearly based on the Hissatsus from Inazuma Eleven, which apparently zoomers no longer know about.
Anonymous No.718071897
>>718071725
We got new eeveelutions every other gen (2, 4, 6) except gen 8 onwards, because that gen was a soulless product.
Anonymous No.718071898 >>718072382
>>718071205
>>718071369
Neither samefagging nor metaposting makes your post any smarter, you are still just another waifufag picking his waifu from a furry game that's been shit for a decade and half
Anonymous No.718072063
>>718071725
Can't wait for bug type eevee
Anonymous No.718072178 >>718080205
>>718070638
Lana is into kinky shit.
Anonymous No.718072351
>>718052557
Gundam always surpise me.
Anonymous No.718072382 >>718073274
>>718071898
Let me have some fun with posting at the same time as the other guy, ya bitter fag.
>makes your post any smarter
It's a waifu and a pokemon from a 3DS game, this isn't a battle of wits. Are you trying to outsmart me in the clash of "liking a pokemon and a girl from a pokemon game" now? Yes you don't like them I'm happy for you. Maybe if you were a more fun guy to be around people would try matching your post time like the other anon did with me.
Anonymous No.718072437
>>718071725
GF is simply put very, incredibly, monumentally, unfathomably, indescribably retarded
they can get away with making the most umbelievably retarded calls lile "not making new eevees because they may look like fanart lmao" because they can do anything and pokemon will still print truckloads of money
Anonymous No.718072508 >>718073379 >>718081915
SM is the epitome of soulless.
Anonymous No.718072535 >>718073019 >>718074015
>>718068245
SMT is not the highest grossing franchise in the world. So no, it would not be hard to have a 3D model do an animation more complicated than swirling right and left.
Anonymous No.718072624 >>718073376 >>718073468 >>718081273
>>718066770
you do realize R/B/Y and G/S were pretty open ended and allowed you take on like half the gyms out of order, right????
Or are you a zoomer who hasnt played them and thinks every pokemon game is hyper linear? you probably loved when Gen 7 put a waypoint marker on the map and held your hand for the entire story
Anonymous No.718072640
>>718065947
True
Anonymous No.718073019 >>718073289
>>718072535
Oh lol it’s THIS autist who goes into every Pokemon thread and pretends every animation is double kick
Anonymous No.718073274
>>718072382
I'm just tired of seeing niggers liking and excusing nupokemon exclusively because of the girls (which are only pokemon because they happen to be in the same anime).

Have a pikahole.
Anonymous No.718073289 >>718073581 >>718078353
>>718073019
Show me the most complicated combat animation right now. Even complicated signature moves get downgraded.

Everybody know that Pokemon games is just a medium to sell cards and more Plushes/souvenirs stuff. Why put effort in your franchise when games sell no matter what?
Anonymous No.718073376
>>718072624
D/p/pt too
Anonymous No.718073379
>>718072508
I'd say it was a step back up from gen 6.
And then gen 8 happened.
Anonymous No.718073468
>>718072624
>pretty open ended
Brah, it was a straight line and only some gyms could be skipped and they would not be level matched. Most of the terrains have barriers that are unlocked only after you beaten the gyms.
Anonymous No.718073581 >>718073704 >>718073791
>>718073289
If the games are bad the merch won't sell either. It will, however, take a while for it to affect them, so it makes it a good enshittification target
Anonymous No.718073704
>>718073581
But that's not true. All they need to do is have the game be a 6/10 with more qualities than negative and people are okay with it. Look at Sword and shield. Horrible performance, horrible online, story was meh, pacing was meh. It was just a game that existed and it sold great and it sold a shit ton of plushes because of the dogs and new Pika clones and ect.
Anonymous No.718073791
>>718073581
It's more that, the merch has already been made by the time the release date of the game comes, so delaying it to make it better would lose them so much money it's better to release a broken product now.
Anonymous No.718073849 >>718074242 >>718078819
>>718039810 (OP)
Moving on to 3D models was the worst mistake they ever made. The abject laziness of their models and inability to properly animate every PokΓ©mon doing moves is an ongoing embarrassment and easily the worst thing about the games. It was fine with sprites where a lot of the combat to be left to imagination about how the mons were performing their moves, doesn't work in 3D though.
Anonymous No.718073892 >>718074050
>>718039810 (OP)
You mean gen 2? Sure
Anonymous No.718074015 >>718074168 >>718074272
>>718072535
>SMT is not the highest grossing franchise in the world
And? You know having money doesn't lessen the work, right? The work still has to be done so that's a non argument.
Anonymous No.718074050
>>718073892
Gen 2 monsare so fucking round it's not even funny.
Not only that, but half of the new ones are behind the post game
Anonymous No.718074168 >>718074523
>>718074015
If your devs are incapable but you have money you can outsource the work to at least get a decent product. Or you can pay your devs more to motivate them.
Anonymous No.718074208
>>718042667
dekanuchan my BEST PAL
Anonymous No.718074242
>>718073849
>doesn't work in 3D though.
Of course it does, literally every 3d rpg does the same thing because they're not going to make 600+ unique animations for a single move.
Anonymous No.718074272
>>718074015
You can hire 5 more guys and do the job.
Anonymous No.718074417 >>718074592 >>718074645
>>718068407
I nickname all my pokemon so I don't have to deal with the awful naming conventions.
Anonymous No.718074523 >>718074743 >>718075068
>>718074168
That's not how it works, it's still going to take just as long and you'll end up with an even worse product than if you didn't because the animation quality won't be consistent.
It's a too many cooks in the kitchen problem. That's why that phrase even exists.
You couldn't even cheat with it like you can AAA movie game and reuse animations since they won't fit the models, at most you could get one or two like plusle and minun.

You people are idiots.
Anonymous No.718074592 >>718075171
>>718074417
>mongo
Not much better
Anonymous No.718074645 >>718075171
>>718074417
What'd the mankey do to you man
Anonymous No.718074743 >>718074957 >>718075330
>>718074523
You can definitively do that, either give duty for the entire animation to one hired squad or pay your devs more and fire/move the ones who don't cut it.
Anonymous No.718074957
>>718074743
Again, not how that works. I've already explained how it does. Also no studio is going to take on the job of making hundreds, possibly thousands of animations. It's an absurdly ridiculous task.
Anonymous No.718075068 >>718075582
>>718074523
You are carrying water for a company that does not care to make a quality game with good animations when they have the resources to do so. You make this tardbabble about how having money doesn't make it less work without saying the quiet part out loud. Which is that when you have a larger animation team(hired by using more money, I'll connect the dots for you) then you can do more animations in the same amount of time. If it truly was a priority for them then they could make it happen because as the other anon pointed out they have the resources. They just don't care to make a quality product because people like you will make excuses for them.
Anonymous No.718075171 >>718075220
>>718074592
This one more to your liking?
>>718074645
He was about to go apeshit.
Anonymous No.718075220 >>718076104
>>718075171
Glad you stopped him. Mongo is fine and yes much better than "Iron Cocks" or its equivalent
Anonymous No.718075296
>>718039810 (OP)
barely, it's been so fucking long
Anonymous No.718075330 >>718076104
>>718074743
>or pay your devs more and fire/move the ones who don't cut it.
Are you retarded? A dev isn't going work harder if you pay them more and I'm not just talking about like moral and whatnot, let's say they are physically doing as much work as possible, how is paying them more going to make them physically capable of more?
And if you fire someone who does half the work that worker does in a day, you can't just replace that person on the spot their position is going to be out for weeks and you have to train up the new guy. You've lost all of that time and the work the guy you fired could have done.
Anonymous No.718075524
>>718050392
Honestly this annoys the FUCK out of me. The hard mode was how it feels like these games should be played, and they dropped it like they drop 95% of new features from title to title. Dumb motherfuckers.
Anonymous No.718075582 >>718076003 >>718076127 >>718076145
>>718075068
>You are carrying water for a company
Yeah no, I don't have to read any more eof your post because it's not about the company, it's about your poor understand of how reality works. On top of that, you have the most contradictory views in that you want a quality game but also want to sacrifice that but want to sacrifice that by having a considerably larger team you can't communicate with properly. Think about the logistics of this, what you're suggesting is the problem literally every AAA game has.
Anonymous No.718075583 >>718075987 >>718088947 >>718091831
>>718039858
Just BW.
BW2 was the result of genwunners shitting their pants because they couldn't play with Charizard for the 9000th time and was completely unnecessary. It was the last time they put any effort in at all to create anything new and the pool of new Pokemon gets smaller and smaller every game to the point where they don't even want to put the old ones in because they hate the series that much and only want to put in the bare minimum of effort. SV was them mocking the shit eaters who still buy these games.
Anonymous No.718075815 >>718076421
>>718042667
>Globalist open world Pokemon game where you even travel to different regions
>Legendaries are lizard people
lmao
Anonymous No.718075987
>>718075583
>the pool of new Pokemon gets smaller and smaller every game
Blatantly false, every single game after gen 6 had more new pokemon than the last with SV having more new ones than even gens 2 and 4.
Anonymous No.718076003 >>718076127
>>718075582
Kids will be kids anon, until they've actually worked on a project with people they won't understand how work, well, works
Anonymous No.718076104
>>718075220
He responds to the code phrase "iron cock"

>>718075330
But that's the thint, you're assuming the devs are all experts giving it their all, doing as much as they phisically can with as much care as they can!
You are assuming they are working out of love for their job and not to just get to their next paycheck!
A very common thing to do is paying people the minimum amount.
That is responded to with minimum effort.
If you pay them more they'll give you a better effort, they'll work better and they might even work more (overtime/a longer shift).
If you punish someone who does the job wrong it makes other leeches sweat their ass off and try to raise their quality to an acceptable level.
Reward effort and punish cutting corners.
Anonymous No.718076127 >>718077571 >>718077571
>>718075582
This is code for "I can't respond to the rest of your post so I'll pretend your insult is what is stopping me." Blatantly obvious about it too. I'll make it short and insult you at the end this time.
While having more money does not decrease the amount of work a given task requires, you can use more money to hire more animators for your team, and that team can get more work done in the same amount of time. There will be a point where you will see diminishing returns but GF is certainly not at that point.
Sw/Sh began development in 2017 and is what introduced dex cuts. We are nearly a decade into GF developing games with dex cuts in mind. This is not an ever-increasing pool of required pokemon to rig animations for anymore. We are past that point in the franchise's history. GF will now pick and choose how many pokemon they want to include. That is more predictable and it is up to GF how they want to plan out what they want to allocate in terms of animation budget towards their teams.
You're a poo-brained retard and you suck GF cock even though they would flay you alive if it meant one more sale under their belt.

>>718076003
GF develops on a curated pokedex at this point and has done so for 8 years. How much polish is in the animations is up to whoever makes the budgeting decisions at that point and how much they actually care about making a game that will sell like hotcakes no matter what into a quality-looking product they could be proud of.
Anonymous No.718076145 >>718076697
>>718075582
>it's not about the company
There's only ever been one company that's made the mainline pokemon games
Yes, it's about the company, and yes it's a shit company now
Anonymous No.718076291 >>718076369 >>718077745
>>718053121
The series went to shit the moment he stopped doing the character designs as well. His designs always had a certain class to them and you could see his flair in them. I will never forgive everyone who enabled the onions redesigns of ORAS where everyone is like 4 foot tall with the Calarts buck teeth. Sidney especially got butchered
>but it's le more reflective of a Dark type thug
Get FUCKED
Anonymous No.718076369
>>718076291
>calarts buck teeth
I know what you mean, but that's not a 'calarts' thing.
Anonymous No.718076412 >>718076580
>>718056592
Wasn't it the reason they cancelled the original Z and fast tracked SM?
Anonymous No.718076421
>>718075815
It's the future and past version of a Cyclisar.
Anonymous No.718076497
>>718057937
because psychic type is absolute garbage and pursuit made it even more worthless
Anonymous No.718076580 >>718077768
>>718076412
Didn't they cancel Z to get sm out for the 20th anniversary?
Anonymous No.718076597 >>718076761
>>718061402
Scald is one of the most cancerous, skilless dog cunt moves in existence. Compfags constantly pointlessly pontificate on how shit every meta past 5 has been and wonder why blaming rocks or whatever when you have this faggot move right there that ruins every game and is granted immunity from bans because stallfaggots know how broken it makes their strategy. I am beyond livid they increased its distribution again.
Anonymous No.718076697 >>718076974 >>718077236
>>718076145
Anon, the anon he's replying to is implying that he's only saying what he is to defend GF.
He's saying that he's not even defending GF, his argument is actually that making 1000+ animations for one move for every move is absurd and that if it wasn't GF he would still think the same way.
Anonymous No.718076736 >>718076858
>>718065059
You want to tell me THIS stretched out MS Paint dipshit looks good?
sage No.718076753
>>718039810 (OP)
Pokemon was always a very transparent soulless money scheme that people kinda like for the collection, they are just running out of ideas.
Anonymous No.718076761
>>718076597
Anonymous No.718076816
>>718066770
Jesus Christ he struck a nerve, didn't he?
Anonymous No.718076858
>>718076736
Its final evo is a fucking Sponic badnik.
Anonymous No.718076974 >>718077972
>>718076697
No retard, what I said explicitly is that he's carrying water for GF because the animations are dogshit and there is an easy way to improve the animations. That is to hire more people for your animation team, and anon seems to be allergic to addressing that fact, as if forbidden by some djinn magic to ever utter the reasonable solution to make the animations as a whole better than the sorry state that they're currently in.
I'm not saying to do 10,000 animations for every single pokemon, I'm saying that the company lets this dogshit standard slide because the games sell anyway. That is a problem with that company and how they want to run things because they have the resources to do things differently. I am saying that if you are carrying water for that then you are defending that shit company and how they do things.
Anonymous No.718077026 >>718077157 >>718077661 >>718081086
gen 1 and 3 monsters are the best, anybody saying otherwise is autistic or coping

top tier
1,3

meh tier
2

low tier
4, 5

beyond the pale tier
6, 7, 8, 9
Anonymous No.718077157
>>718077026
I hate how GF ran fire-fighting into the ground for starters. They never even got close to as good as Blaziken either, which is what they get for trying to infernape the repeatedly idea instead of trying something new.
Anonymous No.718077218 >>718077728
Why have I been seeing an uptick in Pokemon threads on /v/ lately?
Anonymous No.718077236 >>718077676 >>718077805 >>718078053
>>718076697
But like make 5/6 well made generic 2s animations for every mon instead of applying the animation of one mon to every other to make like 20 total animations.
Anonymous No.718077571 >>718078509
>>718076127
>>718076127
>This is code for "I can't respond to the rest of your post so I'll pretend your insult is what is stopping me
Sure, whatever you want to say to make yourself feel better.
The reality is that you haven't actually said how any of this would actually play out, you're just saying the funneling more money into it would just make things better like money is magic despite multiple people now explaining to you how absurd your demands are and that no other company does that.

>but GF is certainly not at that point.
Just out of curiosity what is that point to you? Because pokemon as a series requires more unique animations to be made than any other 3d monster tamer just by the monster count alone and they already have creatures and 8 other 3d graphics studios as support.
You very clearly aren't knowledgeable about any of this or even the game itself.
>This is not an ever-increasing pool of required pokemon to rig animations for anymore. We are past that point in the franchise's history
You are aware that they add like 70 to 80 new pokemon per game not including forms right? And you still have to make new animations for old pokemon if you want to increase distribution of a move.
This is a monster tamer anon, this isn't a AAA movie game where every human is mocapped.
I can't state this enough, you don't understand what we're actually talking about.
Anonymous No.718077661 >>718077752
>>718077026
There are still some pokemon designs I enjoy from newer gens. Some are really, really bad though.
Anonymous No.718077676
>>718077236
Not only that, but you are also allowed to reuse animations and models between games, so you're effectively making a few thousands animations that you can use for like 4 consecutive gens
Anonymous No.718077728
>>718077218
Because /vp/ is unusable garbage since Gen 8, every thread has some retard crying endlessly about β€œpost gen V” because the board narrative is that 3d models caused dex cut.
Anonymous No.718077745
>>718076291
>Make Roxanne a teenage slut instead of a teacher with some class, looks way too young
>Give Brawly a retarded body suit for some reason
>Wattson has the same general design but somehow looks more basedified
>Your Dad is now a manlet
>Flannery has wannabe tomboy teenage girl buckteeth instead of again, having any real class or beauty like her old design
>Winona's eyes are open
>Wallace is a shirtless bumboy Freddie Mercury ripoff with none of the class and all of the faggotry
>Tabitha is a fat cunt for no reason
>Archie is a NIGGER
>Team Aqua in general are NIGGERS
>Not just niggers too, niggers with overly round bodily proportions
>Maxie a manlet incel
Everyone in those remakes felt like a fucking Nick Jr version of themselves with gormless fucking grins on their faces
Anonymous No.718077752
>>718077661
Anonymous No.718077768 >>718077919
>>718076580
Even without the leaks that all but confirmed Z's existance at some point, it was pretty obvious that the game was cancelled even before them
>The anime had an entire arc about Zygarde and included all its forms
>SuMo had an entire random side quest where you gathered Zygarde cells for no real reason
>Now we are getting ZA
Gen 6 was fucking robbed by Masuda
Anonymous No.718077770
>>718039810 (OP)
>Sell essentially the same game four fucking times to keep up merch sales
Nope.
Anonymous No.718077805 >>718078681
>>718077236
Do people who complain about this stuff even play Pokemon? It already works this way
Anonymous No.718077919
>>718077768
Not to mention the Z Crystals; wonder why they were called that lol
Anonymous No.718077972 >>718078509
>>718076974
>what I said explicitly is that he's carrying water for GF because the animations are dogshit and there is an easy way to improve the animations
Aka defending GF because it's GF.
And no there was never an easy way you're just a dipshit. Pokemon SV had 1000 peoole on it and these 3d graphics studios
WINDS CO.LTD., DIGITAL WORKS Entertainment Inc., CREEK & RIVER Co. Ltd., C&R Creative Studios, Lotus Inc., RAYLINE STUDIO INC., PLANETA Co.Ltd., ANIMA Inc.
How many more people do you want them to get on this?
>I'm not saying to do 10,000 animations for every single pokemon,
You've been bitching about the game having generic animations like they're the norm this entire thread.

>That is a problem with that company and how they want to run things because they have the resources to do things differently
Having the money doesn't mean shit. You can't force people to take on work that they don't want to.
Anonymous No.718078053
>>718077236
That's what he's complaining about.
Anonymous No.718078197
Someone post the double kick webm
Anonymous No.718078353 >>718078708
>>718073289
>downgraded
>one is fixed camera
>the other is free, custom camera 100% of the time
eh
Anonymous No.718078382
>>718052837
kek, thanks. I'm curious about it but gacha shit is cancer
Anonymous No.718078509 >>718081334
>>718077571
>what is that point for you?
Better than where we are now, that's for sure. Maybe to where they don't downgrade animations for signature attacks from previous games. I think the more interesting question is whether or not YOU think the animations of these modern mainline games are acceptable. Maybe you just have incredibly low standards.
>You are aware that they add like 70 to 80 new pokemon per game not including forms right?
You seem to have a misunderstanding of how work happens, walk through this with me.
So they have a working dex of 80 new pokemon, 20 or so forms, and the rest are returning, adjust that how you want to. Say 400 or so pokemon total.
Next game rolls around.
Now for workload we have... wait a minute we have... hey now what's this? 80 new pokemon, 20 or so forms, and the rest returning? Say 400 or so pokemon total?
Oh wait a minute, that's NOT an ever-increasing pool of pokemon to rig animations for each game. It's actually the same amount of work. Before dexit you'd have a point. You no longer do.

>>718077972
>there was never an easy way
There is an easy-to-identify reasonable path, which is what I mean, dumbass.
>you've been bitching about the game having bad animations this thread
have I been saying to do 10,000 animations for every single pokemon? Or have I been saying to improve it and you are being a disingenuous retard? The second one.
>how many more do you want??????
Enough to where they don't have to downgrade signature moves and make things generally better-looking. You are acting like I'm phoning up GF asking them to move mountains. I'm not. The games look like shit and I want them to look less shitty, but that's a herculean task to you and the other idiot.
>having the money doesn't mean shit
It means you can hire more people, who can do more work in less time.

You can both just say "GF does not care to allocate the resources because the game will sell great regardless."
Anonymous No.718078635
>>718067089
I'm still flabbergasted Gamefreak lets you NTR this nigga multiple times AND THEN rub it in. It almost made me feel kinda bad for being the player character who always wins lmao
Anonymous No.718078637
>>718068407
>it's okay if gen 5 does it
also there are two paradox with actual names, so by definition it's just that we have not discovered them yet
Anonymous No.718078681 >>718078917 >>718079104 >>718081440
>>718077805
5/6 PERSONALIZED animations, a mon "jumping" twice is not a personalized animation.
Hell they CAN get away with sharing animations between many mons and still get a decent result if they give them similar skeleton rigs and check if the animation works correctly before hitting submit and going onto the next.

But it's way easier to just tell the game "move model forward then go back" or "tilt model twice" and applying that to 99% of the moves for 99% of the pokemon.
Anonymous No.718078708 >>718079329
>>718078353
How would that change a 3D animation? Was the first one just in 2D ? Was it in Mario Kart 64?
Anonymous No.718078819 >>718080106
>>718073849
>It was fine with sprites where a lot of the combat to be left to imagination about how the mons were performing their moves, doesn't work in 3D though.
Except it does. I can just use my imagination to imagine how the moves would actually be performed.
Anonymous No.718078868 >>718081056
>>718039810 (OP)
Anonymous No.718078886
Z powers never had soul.
The whole point was building a pokemon.
With these any shit pokemon can wreck shit wich just feels wrong lorewise and makes building a good pokemon pointless.
Anonymous No.718078917 >>718079107 >>718079597 >>718080253
>>718078681
>But it's way easier to just tell the game "move model forward then go back" or "tilt model twice" and applying that to 99% of the moves for 99% of the pokemon.
That is literally not how it works. Every mon has an animation for contact moves, non contact moves, status move, and maybe a signature. The wiggling and bobbing is usually done in concert with one of those animations to distinguish it from other moves in the same category. Double kick was an exception because it was imitating the (non) animation in the sprite games, but they changed it to play the physical attack animation twice in Gen 9 because people kept complaining
Anonymous No.718079034
>>718039810 (OP)
Get outta here!!
Anonymous No.718079104
>>718078681
>5/6 PERSONALIZED animations, a mon "jumping" twice is not a personalized animation
Not 5 or 6 but they already do, fucking retard. And some Pokemon do have a maximum of 5 attack animations.
Anonymous No.718079107 >>718079467 >>718082661
>>718078917
Wow, 4 whole animations, 3 animations most of the time. Dapper work from such a small resource-strapped indie company. Must be their first game in the series, or they'd have improved things already.
Anonymous No.718079247
>>718039810 (OP)
i remember when pokemon was about catching and battling cool monsters with your friends.
i dont even know what its supposed to be about now.
Anonymous No.718079287
>>718054841
Anonymous No.718079329 >>718079614
>>718078708
>How would that change a 3D animation?
8 pyro ball has a cinematic animation with fixed camera angles for the epicness
9 pyro ball has a non-cinematic animation while you could zoom and move the camera on your trainer's feet instead of looking at the pokemon

in short it's freedom of camera movement vs animations that use the camera.
Anonymous No.718079373 >>718099178
>>718062298
source???
Anonymous No.718079467 >>718079686
>>718079107
>seriously asking about 936 animations for each of 1025 creatures
Anonymous No.718079597 >>718082661
>>718078917
Blastoise doesn't shoot water from his cannons.
Now, obviously i don't know if the objective should be 5, 10 or 15, but the current state is definitively not it.
Anonymous No.718079614
>>718079329
How does this change the fact that the animation got downgraded? Free roam camera somehow mean that juggling a ball is now impossible? We lost the technology to animate a 3D model that way?
Anonymous No.718079686
>>718079467
How did you come to 936? Last I checked it was 3 most of the time for moves and then they waved the model around a bit. We can just move it up to 4 most of the time with a 5th for a signature, we don't need to go to 936. But Suggesting it has to be 936 makes it easier to live with 3, I imagine.
Anonymous No.718079936
>>718042667
Maushold, Bombirdier, Glimmora and Hydrapple quickly became some of my all-time favourites and I didn't really like much of anything out of gen 8 besides maybe some of the regional forms/new evos of old mons like Sirfetch'd.
Anonymous No.718079945 >>718089727
>>718039858
Pokemon really peaked with BW/2. Best in terms of gameplay and features and while the pokemon designs weren't that great for the most part in that gen, it gave us the coolest pokemon ever.
Anonymous No.718080039
i rebember
Anonymous No.718080106 >>718080549
>>718078819
except now there's no where to go from here, if they aren't willing to show that for 3d they never will
Anonymous No.718080205 >>718089321
>>718072178
Sick bitch
Anonymous No.718080253 >>718080592 >>718080648 >>718080684 >>718098109
>>718078917
Picrel came out 18 years ago with 500 mons.
The animations in that game are what i expect from gf.
Anonymous No.718080385
>>718039810 (OP)
>remember when that one pokemon had so much favoritism it wasn't even funny while leaving everything else shitty
Yeah its still happening lil bro
Anonymous No.718080482
I want to OBLITERAPE suiren!
Anonymous No.718080549
>>718080106
>if they aren't willing to show that for 3d they never will
Why do they need to? Just use your imagination. Did it for 2D, can do it for 3D.
Anonymous No.718080587
>>718052376
>nippon ichi
Alright I laft, good one (you) funny anon
Anonymous No.718080592
>>718080253
Now anon come on you just don't understand, it would be IMPOSSIBLE. Just think of the monumental task you set forth for GF. Double the amount of pokemon that have such animations in a game 18 years later on a system 3 generations forward?
I gotta say man, you just are being totally unreasonable there. I mean what do you expect them to do? Animate it all? Hire more staff to do such animations? How does that even work? How do you even hire someone or do Q&A on their work? It is a mystery. Please forget about such old games with those kinds of animations, just buy the slop and defend it.
Anonymous No.718080648 >>718081425
>>718080253
>The animations in that game are what i expect from gf.
LMAO
a fucking signature move
Anonymous No.718080684
>>718080253
I still don't get why they couldn't just use these animations for X and Y and then bring them all the way up to shield instead of remaking them. Hell, they could've gotten the models for all the pokemon up to gen 5 from pokepark 2, maybe from that dream radar 3ds app too?
Anonymous No.718081056
>>718078868
Dialga with its mouth wide open is kinda freaky with the way the lower jaw and chin retreats into the neck
Anonymous No.718081086
>>718077026
2 is bottom tier. If you look at the dex without nostalgia glasses on, it's mostly fat happy face blobs. Even a lot of the fully evolved Pokemon like Quagsire, Lanturn and Jumpluff are just that.
Anonymous No.718081196
>>718066770
rude, but absolutely justified crashout.
Anonymous No.718081226
>>718039810 (OP)
No, it was always a corpo child which happened to come out at the right time.
Anonymous No.718081273
>>718072624
>crystal clear does the exact thing you want
>NOOOO!!! I HATE ITTTTT!!!
god /v/ is so fucking dumb sometimes.
Anonymous No.718081318
>third games were more of a similar thing with revised plot, and were basically the definitive game of every gen that gave an excuse to replay that gen thanks to the small changes (with BW2 being straight up sequels, which was mind-blowing at the time)
>even SM tried to do it, but ended up with a bizarre attempt that were still the same thing but with an entirely different plot
>and then SwSh had literal DLC
>as in, they only add one area each with their own subquests that are separate from the rest of the game and don't change anything at all otherwise
>one of them even has a level 70 fight right at the start to ensure you won't do it early
And that's when I knew the soul was gone for good. To make things worse, it was so much of a success that they did the same thing in SV.
Anonymous No.718081334 >>718084537
>>718078509
>Or have I been saying to improve it
What exactly do you think you want improved?
Anonymous No.718081425
>>718080648
See
>>718050312
Anonymous No.718081440
>>718078681
>Hell they CAN get away with sharing animations between many mons and still get a decent result if they give them similar skeleton rigs.
So you want worse animations then.
Anonymous No.718081504
>>718056308
>it was still complete, just ignore all the content they pointlessly removed that had to be added back in gen 6, the one that's apparently incomplete
Anonymous No.718081546
>>718063364
you clearly didn't play Sun and Moon. Yes there are a few exclusive Z-Moves, but the one being depicted here is generic and can be used by any pokemon that can learn a physical fairy move.
Anonymous No.718081585 >>718098374
>>718050312
Anything is possible when you steal your assets
Anonymous No.718081598
>>718039858
5th gen was ass. 4th gen was when the soul faded.
Anonymous No.718081741
>>718039810 (OP)
Pokemon hasn't had soul since colosseum.
Anonymous No.718081772
>>718039810 (OP)
Where did things go so wrong?
Anonymous No.718081915
>>718040346
>>718072508
It's sad how after seeing how shit SV's open world was, I actually started appreciating the railroading that went full retard from BW on.
Anonymous No.718081987
>>718065059
Gen 4-5 have a lot of coolmons. I think Gen 7 is the only good from from 6-8
Anonymous No.718082228
>>718039810 (OP)
Yeah, the last time was Gold & Silver.
Watching Lugia battle the three birds was something else.
Anonymous No.718082661 >>718083430 >>718083756 >>718084537
>>718079597
Blastoise shoots water from his cannons now

>>718079107
You have to remember there’s also non battle animations ex: if you play as Blastoise and swim around he shoots water from his limbs to propel
Anonymous No.718082932 >>718083491 >>718087817
>>718039810 (OP)
Pokemon lost its soul when they stopped caring about the nature aspects interaction of the game design from Gen I, II and III.
Anonymous No.718083142 >>718083357 >>718083382
>always loved jumpluff
>only ever paid attention to competitive singles since BW, was always sad that it was kind of shit
>fast forward 10 years, started getting interested in VGC now that there's actually decent youtube content around it
>turns out jumpluff is actually really fucking good in doubles
This franchise still can bring joy to me after so many years
Anonymous No.718083357 >>718083452
>>718083142
Anonymous No.718083382
>>718083142
>encore Jumpluff
I want you to know you are a terrible person and will burn in the hellfire you love so much
Anonymous No.718083430 >>718084537
>>718082661
You're talking to these people as if they've played a pokemon game anon.
Anonymous No.718083452
>>718083357
Anonymous No.718083491
>>718082932
So you're saying It didn't.
Anonymous No.718083618
>Think there's gonna be a laser beam
>It's just a buff
Lmao actually had me laughing
Anonymous No.718083756 >>718085894
>>718082661
>Blastoise shoots water from his cannons now
Oh, good, it only took a decade of people shitting on them for not doing a kanto starter properly
Anonymous No.718084537 >>718084994 >>718085785
>>718081334
I'd like more unique animations and less reliance on wiggling the model.

>>718082661
>>718083430
Yes I know there are non-battle animations. I was referring to the battle animations that anon was referencing with his shitty cope.
Anonymous No.718084994 >>718085952
>>718084537
>I'd like more unique animations and less reliance on wiggling the model
That's not going to happen with 500+ models to deal with. No developer has ever done that nor would it be lucrative to do so since such a game would take years to develop and be extremely costly.

You're even worse than that dumbass from earlier who treated money like fuel and workers like an engine.
Anonymous No.718085785 >>718085952
>>718084537
>I'd like more unique animations and less reliance on wiggling the model
Anon, there's like two animations like that in the entire game. Also you have to take into account that even the visual effects are different for each move whereas something like say Digimon would use the same animation and effect a level 1 move uses for a level 3.

Basically, your idea is going to result in lower quality animations as a whole.
Anonymous No.718085894
>>718083756
SV saved pokeman
Anonymous No.718085952 >>718086475 >>718087794
>>718084994
>it would take years to give each of 500 pokemon even 1 more animation
Not a smart one, are you?

>>718085785
Just adding one more animation for pokemon moves that could be used in conjunction with your beloved model wiggling and special effects would help this game tremendously. But beyond the other anon thinking it is impossible, you think it would make the game worse. Crazy how dumb you people are.
Anonymous No.718086110
Pokemon Ranger definitely died forever along with the DS line, right? Although, considering the last few Mystery Dungeons they've put out, maybe it's better for some spinoffs to just be dead.
Anonymous No.718086308 >>718086631
I'm gonna be honest I think ORAS, LPE, SWSH and BDSP are the only soulless pokemon games.
Anonymous No.718086362
>>718039810 (OP)
never did
Anonymous No.718086457 >>718086645
People unironically think every move looks like Gen 8 Double Kick. Gen 9 multi-hit moves actually do play an animation now. If you opened youtube and looked at some gameplay for once instead of doomposting maybe you'd know that.
Anonymous No.718086471
zoomer here, the early anime episodes had soul,
that's it
Anonymous No.718086475 >>718086854
>>718085952
If there was one more animation you’d probably demand another animation, your posts seem like you’re more angry that the models have those kinds of animations at all than you are about the actual animations
Anonymous No.718086631 >>718087148 >>718092712
>>718086308
ORAS had soul when they included a bunch of popular gen 3 hoaxes as actual mechanics. Going to space to fight Deoxys, flying around the world on Latios, all it needed was Mew under a truck really. Plus they didn't use the shitty Emerald version of the main story.
Anonymous No.718086645
>>718086457
>people
It’s legit one guy I’ve seen him in other threads and he runs basically the same script every time
Anonymous No.718086854 >>718087523
>>718086475
If it looked good to me at that point then I'd be satisfied, but this game cuts a lot of fucking corners so I'd want maybe 2 instead of one. I know, I'll give you a minute to catch your breath after hearing that, I was really brazen asking for 2 after we had gen 6 with 800 or so pokemon in its pokedex.
But if we got even one more animation thanks to people bitching and demanding then you're welcome. The blastoise example and the double kick example never would have gotten changed if people didn't complain. You probably chuckled at the people complaining about those, imagining the months and months of hard japanese work it would take to make the water come out of blastoise's cannons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG1Iivc8JiU
But you're right, the quality there is top notch. No need to ask for more, what am I thinking? Bootlicking retard.
Anonymous No.718087019
>>718039810 (OP)
>over 40 seconds animation just for stat up
Anonymous No.718087148
>>718086631
>Plus they didn't use the shitty Emerald version of the main story.
Contrarian faggot
Anonymous No.718087212 >>718087320
>>718042667
Annihilape is kino
Anonymous No.718087320 >>718087461
>>718087212
get this, it's kantooooMonkey...
But angry and black!
Anonymous No.718087461
>>718087320
>incredibly angry monkey got so angry he died
>but is too angry to stay down
Yeah that sounds like kino actually.
Anonymous No.718087523 >>718087867 >>718088148
>>718086854
I mean from the context of this thread if they added two new animations you wouldn’t even know because you clearly don’t play the games lol
Also I’ve seen you in other threads and you always start off pretending you don’t know about double kick and blastoise being changed despite multiple people telling you across multiple threads
Anonymous No.718087553
>>718039858
Anonymous No.718087794 >>718088148
>>718085952
>Just adding one more animation for pokemon moves that could be used in conjunction with your beloved model wiggling and special effects would help this game tremendously.
You mean the thing they're already doing? The thing you're currently complaining about?

>But beyond the other anon thinking it is impossible
Anon, literally no one here has said it was impossible. There's a difference between unfeasible and impossible and your idea is unfeasible when taking into account budget, deadlines and quality.

>Crazy how dumb you people are.
This doesn't mean much coming from the person who has yet to say anything more than
>THROW MORE MONEY AT IT!
>OUTSOURCE EVEN MORE!
Honestly, it's like your understanding of things never grew beyond "mom can get things from this building with money".
Anonymous No.718087817
>>718082932
>Pokemon lost its soul when they stopped caring about the nature aspects interaction of the game
so never?
Anonymous No.718087867
>>718087523
A bit of a catch 22
>Didn't play the games because they're effortless cashgrabs
>Wouldn't play the games if fixed because i didn't play the games to notice
Anonymous No.718088148 >>718088275 >>718088753 >>718088928 >>718089090 >>718089564
>>718087523
I don't typically post in pokemon threads, I just get riled up when bootlickers like you open their asscheeks to big corporations that couldn't give two shits about you so you can pave the way for worse games.
Scarlet/Violet is the first game in the series I did not buy, but not because of the animations. It was because it was a buggy piece of shit on release for multiplayer. But I'm sure you saw people complaining about the bugs and shook your head, not even having the energy that time to scold them about how impossible it would have been for GF to have competent and adequately staffed coding and R&D teams to make sure they released a finished product to the public.
Give me a laugh anon, tell me why they couldn't release a complete game that wasn't a buggy mess. Let me know how crazy a proposal that was just like it would be a momumental effort to get some mroe animations thrown our way.

>>718087794
>throw more money at it!
Throw more animators at it to make more animations yes. They work with a curated dex of a limited number now, we are post-dexit. You seem to be under the impression that that's not the case now, and GF likes that.
You simultaneously tell me that my desire for more animations is unfeasible, childish, and also already being done. Interesting. A true, actual retard schizo.
Anonymous No.718088275 >>718088594
>>718088148
>I don’t typically post in Pokemon threads
If you’re the guy talking about models β€œwiggling and turning” yes you do I see you all the time. If you aren’t then whatever not reading this wall of seethe
Anonymous No.718088459
>>718042667
I've been complaining since the fourth generation.
Anonymous No.718088594 >>718088990
>>718088275
Keep walking, retard. Make sure to let GF know that you defended their poor coding and shitty animations on the internet next time you write them fanmail. What a cuck.
>ask them to do better!? no no no you can't do that!
>let it get shittier I don't want them to have to go through the trouble of hiring staff to adequately make their games!
>hiring staff sounds scary I don't wanna talk about it! can't be done it's unreasonable!
Anonymous No.718088706
>>718039858
/thread
Anonymous No.718088753 >>718089605
>>718088148
>bootlickers
There's that buzzword again. You don't even know what we're talking about and you're raging out of your gourd.
Anonymous No.718088798
yokai watch 4 has soul
Anonymous No.718088823
>>718062298
Not in SV btw.
Anonymous No.718088918
>remove the miniskirts, add a tranny peacock, and make the game a buggy mess
I've seen this happen in other mainstream games before. Hopefully they understand how awful they really are and blackball them from the industry.
Anonymous No.718088928 >>718089605
>>718088148
>Throw more animators at it to make more animations yes
I wonder how many times you've been told that's not going to work?
The amount of teams necessary to do what you want would make it a communications nightmare. You wouldn't be able to keep track of how you want each team to animate something.
Just throwing money at something doesn't work no matter how many times you repeat it.
Anonymous No.718088947
>>718075583
Just BW2. BW is boring dogshit and Charmander isn't even in BW2 you schizo faggot
Anonymous No.718088990 >>718089274 >>718089605
>>718088594
Wow you’re mad. So I guess that pretty much confirms I’m going to see the same dude running the β€œwiggling and turning” posts and being lead through the same conversation chains about how the animations work in Pokemon sometime soon
Anonymous No.718089090 >>718089605
>>718088148
Think about it Anon, can you REALLY expect a small indie studio (that just so happens to own the worlds most profitable franchise) to make good games?
Anonymous No.718089173 >>718089302
Remember. This is what they took from you.
Anonymous No.718089274 >>718091892
>>718088990
Should we call him wigglefag?
Anonymous No.718089302
>>718089173
>breasts
>male/female distinct animations
but you will buy it anyway
Anonymous No.718089321 >>718097553
>>718080205
why is lana like this?
Anonymous No.718089374
Doesn't everybody just skip cutscene tier move animations after seeing them a few times?
Anonymous No.718089564 >>718089838
>>718088148
For someone who doesn't post in pokemon threads you sure do have a lot of shitposting images.
Anyway I just have to say that I love that you said this
>Scarlet/Violet is the first game in the series I did not
Because it means you bought the three worst games in the series
Ultra sun and moon
Lgpe
And SwSh
But you want to pretend you have standards?
Anonymous No.718089605 >>718089867 >>718091178 >>718091946
>>718088753
Yeah I'll use the term because it's incredibly insulting and applies to you fucks that see a person wanting things to be better and recoil in anger. Well, maybe you don't find it insulting to be reminded that you worship and go to bat for your pet company that will never know your name.

>>718088928
>the amount of teams necessary to just add another few animations would make it a communications nightmare man you don't understand
>how would they even keep track of it!?!?!?
Imagine how they would keep track of it now, and expand the team slightly by adding another couple of people. Holy shit what a nightmare. Listen to yourself, man. You are acting liek GF couldn't handle the task of just adding a couple of people to pre-existing teams and direct them to do the same thing they've been doing for fucking decades.

>>718088990
It sounds like you post more in these threads defending GF's honor and you're tired of people complaining about the same things. S/V launch must have been hell for you, seeing people trash your favorite corpo's new mess.

>>718089090
What was I thinking?
Anonymous No.718089727 >>718090187 >>718090298 >>718092534
>>718079945
It sounds dumb but BW2 really felt like the end of an era.
Anonymous No.718089838 >>718090078
>>718089564
Yeah I didn't get S/V, as much as that angers you. I was on the fence with Sw/Sh specifically because of dexit but I wanted a mainline title for the switch to play and LGPE was not it. If they make the games better then I may come back but you'll buy two copies to cancel out my non-purchase so GF don't need to worry about my dollar.
Anonymous No.718089867 >>718090075
>>718089605
>incredibly insulting
Insulting to you maybe but when you're talking to people who are thinking logically rather than with their brand loyalty like you are then it reflects badly on you
Anonymous No.718090032
the fans have spoken
sv has wonned
Anonymous No.718090041
>>718041352
Pokemon have always been "it" guidelines for marketing make it a rule. Waifufags who use she/he are retarded and not canon.
Anonymous No.718090075 >>718090285
>>718089867
Yes I do think that the term bootlicker is insulting because I do not lick boots the way these other retards do.
Thinking logically is hearing someone want more animations or a less buggy launch and agreeing that that would improve the quality of the games. Thinking with brand loyalty is pretending that increasing the animation or R&D team in any capacity would be a "communications nightmare." That's some next-level brainwashing.
Anonymous No.718090078 >>718090228
>>718089838
Jesus anon, you can't just keep on going
>Y-you're just mad...
To everyone who insults you, what exactly do you think you look like to the rest of us?
>LGPE was not it.
And yet by your own admission you bought it like a little pig who eats his slop happily.
Anonymous No.718090187
>>718089727
it kind of was, both bw games really seemed to have a lot of care behind them, even having the idea that bw1 locked you to using the new mons until postgame.
post gen 5 pokemon for the most part keeps reminding me of that game freak employee in HGSS that talks about the trials and tribulations of remaking GSC and it just makes me sad, i don't feel the passion there anymore unless it's something like legends arceus that did something different with the formula.
Anonymous No.718090228 >>718090404
>>718090078
It wasn't a good purchase in the end though I did get some gen 1 nostalgia. If you're asking me to cop to it being a bad title that I shouldn't have purchased I would have to agree with you. It would have been better not to purchase that or Sw/Sh, and while I derived enjoyment from them I'll levy criticisms on both games because I'm not attached to GF at the hip.
Anonymous No.718090285 >>718090715
>>718090075
>Yes I do think that the term bootlicker is insulting because I do not lick boots the way these other retards do.
So you admit you're a bootlicker then. Explains the obsession with pokemon.
>Thinking logically is hearing someone want more animations or a less buggy launch and agreeing that that would improve the quality of the games.
See here's the problem, there's zero logic in this. You have a desire sure but the logic is how to achieve it and your idea was just
>MORE MONEY
>MORE STAFF
>GOGOGOGOGOGOGO!!!
without thinking about the logistics of it all and you won't do that because you're dedicated to this brand in the same way a weeb is dedicated to Japan.
Anonymous No.718090298
>>718089727
end of an shit era, the games were so fucking bad they had to disable sky drop from the world championships because it was so bugged
Anonymous No.718090404 >>718090715
>>718090228
>It wasn't a good purchase in the end
It doesn't matter, what you thought about it at the end after you bought it. The problem is that you couldn't discern whether or not it was a bad game based on what you saw, judging by this thread you probably saw the bright colors and went "ooh pretty, me wanty!"
Anonymous No.718090432
I'll just play Arceus because it isn't horrible and then use Pokemon Champions for multiplayer battles.
Anonymous No.718090475
>>718039810 (OP)
>doesn't even change texture
Anonymous No.718090585
>>718065313
I remember less hate for Gen 6 designs than Gen 5 designs, even when Gen 6 were the current games.
Anonymous No.718090715 >>718091298 >>718091732
>>718090285
>I find bootlicker to be insulting because I don't lick boots
>"so you admit you're a bootlicker then"
Are you having a stroke?

>your idea of how to achieve your idea of wanting more animations is to staff more animators with the ungodly amount of money you have
Do you have a better route to the goal of wanting more animations in the games? Besides "sit down and shut up stop asking for things" I mean.
>just think of the logistics!
Just think of the logistics of all of the shit that GF does when they make these games. It's all a nightmare of logistics from the ground up, how the fuck is that a response to anything? Why have animations at all? What a logistics nightmare it would be keeping them on payroll!

>>718090404
I figured Sw/Sh would probably be bad and LGPE would be nostalgia bait but my desire to play the game was higher than the things keeping me from playing them. Such was not the case with S/V and if future games keep up this trend of being functionally broken on release then it will stay that way. As shitty as Sw/Sh's trees were, the game functioned reliably.
Anonymous No.718090778
>>718039810 (OP)
In five years, people are going to be making these kinds of threads about Gen 9.
Anonymous No.718090937 >>718091615
>>718048552
>shitnoh faggot
Gen 4 was easily the worst prior to the jump to 3D.
Anonymous No.718091017 >>718091279 >>718091387
Why do mods allow PokΓ©mon threads when >>>/vp/ exists? Genuine question.
Anonymous No.718091019
>>718042667
>Sprigatito line
>Nymble line
>Pawmi line
>Tandemaus line
>Fidough line
>Smoliv line
>Nacli line
>Charcadet line
>Wattrel line
>Tinkaton
>Greavard line
>Cetoddle line
>Annihilape
>Clodsire
>Baxcalibur
>Wo-Chien

I have no problem with these.
Anonymous No.718091178
>>718089605
>anon gets recognized as a schizo pretending to be an impartial observer
>starts crashing out
Kek
Anonymous No.718091279
>>718091017
/vp/ isn't a containment board. It was only made because /v/ would get flooded with Pokemon news during hype seasons. Discussing Pokemon elsewhere was never made a bannable offense.
Anonymous No.718091298 >>718092410
>>718090715
>Are you having a stroke?
English isn't your first language huh
>Yes I do think that the term bootlicker is insulting because I do not lick boots the way these other retards do.
This part is saying you are indeed a bootlicker
>because I do not lick boots the way these other retards do
Insinuating you do it differently. And given your dedication to this bit I wouldn't be surprised if you were some corporate stooge being paid to shitpost.

>Do you have a better route to the goal of wanting more animations in the games?
Yeah, it's called literally doing anything else. Hell what they're doing results in an actual game being made within a reasonable span of time, with your idea it's likely to get cancelled after they hit the 10 year mark because they just can't coordinate things with so many people.
>Just think of the logistics of all of the shit that GF does when they make these games.
Typical bootlicker talk, you don't know what they do so you can't talk about that meanwhile we can talk about what would happen if there's too many people because that's not reliant on GF and it's just a fact that you can't manage that many people.
Hell why do you think most sports teams have numbers in the teens or so per game and not like fucking 40 people aside? More opportunities to get the ball and pass it forwards right?
Anonymous No.718091387
>>718091017
Nintendo shitposting threads are the only shitposting threads allowed on /v/.
Anonymous No.718091390
>Champions changes the HP bar numbers to percentage instead
that's... actually pretty based
Anonymous No.718091615 >>718091794
>>718090937
>johtroon faggot
Gen 2 is still the worst even after the jump to 3d
Anonymous No.718091724
>>718040346
Bw2 also likes to stop you every 15 minutes to dialogue dump on you
Anonymous No.718091732
>>718090715
Can I ask you something?
Do you have any other hobbies?
Anonymous No.718091794 >>718092141
>>718091615
>Gen 2 out of thin fucking air
Anonymous No.718091831 >>718092150
>>718075583
B2W2 was the result of BW sucking dicks and them deciding to salvage shitnova.
Anonymous No.718091892
>>718089274
Yeah I’ll probably start using that. This is probably the 3rd or 4th time I’ve run into this person, this kind of shit wouldn’t bother me if they didn’t just pretend to learn nothing in between threads
Anonymous No.718091946 >>718092091 >>718092410
>>718089605
>you fucks that see a person wanting things to be better and recoil in anger
We're trying to tell you that you have no frame of reference. Actually look at other turn based games, the vast majority of their move animations are all quick and hardly anything special. Pokemon IS standard in this regard.
>b-b-b-b-but muh highest grossing
Why do people think this refutes anything? Do you think all these other game companies are dirt poor?
Anonymous No.718092091
>>718091946
>Do you think all these other game companies are dirt poor?
How much do you want to bet that he thinks that Bandai is a small indie company and that's why they can't make a Digimon game that has better animations?
Anonymous No.718092141 >>718092331 >>718092626 >>718092741
>>718091794
>ah i've been found out!
lol cope johtroon faggot, gen 4 is the best
Anonymous No.718092150
>>718091831
this.
Anonymous No.718092331 >>718092615
>>718092141
>gen 4 is the best
Damn HGSS is that good?
Anonymous No.718092410 >>718093002
>>718091298
>somehow interpreted that sentence and the totality of my posts in this thread as being a bootlicker
You're an ESL, understood.

>"um, doing literally anything else"
>can't provide anything else
There it is.

>bootlicker talk is saying that a company or corporation should do better and customers should not tolerate their shit
Trying hard to force this, I see. Pretending that GF is incapable of expanding any of their teams isn't working for you.

>>718091946
No, most turnbased games in 3D are better than pokemon in this regard. Characters will actually run to the enemy to hit them with physical attacks, for instance. In pokemon you'll be lucky to get the model to slide over while a non-running animation plays.
Anonymous No.718092534 >>718095584
>>718089727
It unironically was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUY5KjHwczY
>here's this in-game tournament thing with every gym leader from past versions and 10/10 battle music with references to the entire series
You can't convince me it wasn't meant to be the last game until they remembered that Pokemon literally prints money and then XY was shat out.
Anonymous No.718092615 >>718092815
>>718092331
HGSS is overrated dogshit.
Anonymous No.718092626
>>718092141
Based Japs
Anonymous No.718092712
>>718086631
they did use emerald's thing with wallace being important
Anonymous No.718092741
>>718092141
>SV that high
based
Anonymous No.718092815
>>718092615
>Hiamong and Sears
Never heard of 'em.
Anonymous No.718093002 >>718093603
>>718092410
>, most turnbased games in 3D are better than pokemon in this regard
Okay, name one that doesn't reuse animations.
Anonymous No.718093584
The 3DS Pokemon games are like the Star Wars prequels. They are shit, but zoomers pretend they're good just because what came after is even worse.
Anonymous No.718093603 >>718094093 >>718094176
>>718093002
I'll name e33 and P5 being better than pokemon for battle animations right off the top of my head. Reusing animations is not a bad thing if you do it well, maybe you disagree. Or maybe you just want to pre-emptively shut down any examples I could give. It would be bad asset management to NOT reuse animations or assets where it is appropriate, maybe you didn't know this but nearly all games will do this to some extent.
Or again maybe you did and you want to set a retarded standard as to why your favorite company's game shouldn't be improved at all. I would welcome the idea of all of my favorite games being improved, because I'm not a bootlicking fag like the idiots in this thread.
Anonymous No.718093856
>>718063151
I like Golisopod far too much to put gen 7 the lowest. Gen 8 was pretty inert and boring designwise.
Anonymous No.718093942
>>718063454
gliscor alone mogs gen 6, you're a crack smoking faggot that wanks to the tranny dog lol
Anonymous No.718094068 >>718096541 >>718097041
I hate how every pokemon game discussion is about their dogshit graphics, animations, and designs and ignore how shitty the substance of the game has gotten. Their map, dungeon, region designs have fallen off a cliff. The presentation of the gameplay is still fucking gba tier *sandstorm rages*. The only thing that has really improved is some interface streamlining and maybe qol stuff, but even then some of the qol feels like it has taken a giant chunk of the game out of the game. You don't even have to make decisions about parties or what pokemon to raise anymore and things around it have barely changed to account for that. The series is the epitome of underwhelming
Anonymous No.718094093 >>718094478
>>718093603
>e33 and P5
Retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRZHE251kzc
Look at the animations. Very simple movements and poses followed by particle effects. It is exactly in line with Pokemon. You don't even know what it is you want.
Anonymous No.718094176 >>718094478
>>718093603
>Reusing animations is not a bad thing if you do it well
Here's the problem though, your entire argument is condemning the use of generic and reused animations, things both E33 and p5 do far more than pokemon. That goes for enemies as well, especially in the former, that one rock superboss enemy is a good example given all it does to attack is wiggle up and down over the player team.

You tried and failed to name a single game and in fact named one with worse animations as a whole
Anonymous No.718094417
>>718039810 (OP)
Yes. HGSS
Anonymous No.718094478 >>718094680 >>718094883 >>718095025
>>718094093
>they both use particles with movements therefor they're the same
e33 and P5 are both better. The characters more believably move towards the enemy when they attack instead of it being a bastardization of early pokemon gens and 3d animation. You may have lower standards and that's okay.

>>718094176
>You're argument is
That is not my argument. Try again.
Anonymous No.718094506
>>718039810 (OP)
Yeah it was Gen 5 and you retards said it was bad. Now you get unabashed slop.
Anonymous No.718094558
No Pokemon game with fairy types has soul.
Anonymous No.718094680 >>718095263
>>718094478
>That is not my argument
It very much is, pretending it isn't doesn't change your argument
Anonymous No.718094767
>>718050312
>literally just dragging a 3d model around in space
>no moving animation whatsoever
okay that's just funny
Anonymous No.718094883 >>718095263
>>718094478
>The characters more believably move towards the enemy
You call a stiff jump and not touching the enemy when they attack believable? Okay.
I don't think you've played either of those games.
Anonymous No.718095025 >>718095263
>>718094478
I'm not the one with lower standards. When other companies do what Gamefreak does you're okay with it. It's obvious now that you just don't really play videogames much and apply standards to one company only.
Anonymous No.718095263 >>718095439 >>718095553 >>718095856
>>718094680
My argument is that Pokemon's animations are dogshit and it would not be nearly as onerous as bootlicking faggots in this thread make it out to be to expand their animation team to improve them. The "animation" reused a lot of the time is the idle animation with an effect around it or the model being squeezed a little.

>>718094883
More believable than a pokemon sliding slowly across the screen while jiggling and not actually doing anything but their idle animation. I call it better than pokemon.

>>718095025
I'm not saying those companies or games could not do with improvements. I'm not married to P5 or e33 the way people are to pokemon in this thread. They are just better than pokemon in terms of how they did their animations. Low bar, I know.
Anonymous No.718095439 >>718096035
>>718095263
>I'm not married to P5 or e33 the way people are to pokemon in this thread
And yet here you are defending them with your life, something no one has done with pokemon here.
Anonymous No.718095553 >>718096035
>>718095263
Not those anons but Persona 5 has significantly, SIGNIFICANTLY less animations than Pokemon. It would be nice if Pokemon made physical contact for contact moves but that'd probably be an absolute shitshow when every Pokemon can use every move
Anonymous No.718095584
>>718092534
>You can't convince me it wasn't meant to be the last game until they remembered that Pokemon literally prints money and then XY was shat out.
It was the last game for the DS. It was the last 2D game. Obviously it could never be the last Pokemon game, but in these two respects it was distinctly end-of-era.
The battle theme you linked is literally the best one in the series.
Anonymous No.718095639
>>718047150
factorylet
Anonymous No.718095856 >>718096035
>>718095263
>The "animation" reused a lot of the time is the idle animation
And the attack animation, and the skill and spell animations or lack thereof in most cases, and in the case of persona the summon animation.
You're impressed by the one or two big animations and then act as if everything else doesn't matter. Speaking of the idle animation, in persona after you attack and return to the idle animation, it just stops. I think it happens when you take passive damage like poison too.
Anonymous No.718096035 >>718096264 >>718097045
>>718095439
>defending them with your life
"The animations are better than pokemon" is not defending them with my life lmao. That's like saying that a ham sandwich is better than whatever you can cook. The fags in this thread are the ones guarding GF's bottom line with their very being and it's been a joy showing them how retarded they are. Defending with your life is saying that adding an animator or two would be tantamount to a communication nightmare of infeasible logistics, or that there's just no way they could add any more animations to a 500-pokemon dex when they had a 3d modeled 800-pokemon dex on a less powerful system before.

>>718095553
https://youtu.be/EcKJ1eQPCUQ?t=675
This is one of the animations. Saying there are more means nothing when that's the standard that people are sucking off here. That shit is laughable.

>>718095856
See the youtube vid in this reply, that shit is pathetic. That is what you suck off and demand for more of with no changes.
Anonymous No.718096157 >>718096945
>>718052652
Holy shit, the Giratina and Hoopa-Unbound ones are fucking awesome.
Anonymous No.718096264 >>718096858
>>718096035
>"The animations are better than pokemon" is not defending them with my life lmao
Yeah, in the same way saying having 50 animation studios work on a single game isn't feasible is bootlicking. See how this works? Or rather how your arguments don't work?
Stating a fact isn't defending by any stretch of the imagination, you're just angry that it's being said about pokemon.
It's almost as if you have some kind of unhealthy attachment to the series
Anonymous No.718096351
>>718039858
FPBP
Anonymous No.718096541
>>718094068
Speaking of QoL changes, I really liked having a free move relearner in every Pokecenter in SwSh. TRs were a step backwards though given how many more of them you find than the infinite TMs and even though most of them are repeatable you still need to get lucky with the random shops around the wild area. SV kind of fixed this by making them craftable, but then it also went back to making all TMs finite at the same time so it was the typical GameFreak taking one step forwards and two backwards.
Anonymous No.718096795
>>718052652
Why do people think this looks good when it uses that awful jiggly gacha animation.
Anonymous No.718096858 >>718097523
>>718096264
Problem is(and what makes you a bootlicking disingenuous retard) I am not asking for 50 animation studios to work on a single game, just to expand the animation team in some way to better accommodate the animation needs of their game where many many things are animated.
You act as though expanding the team in any way shape or form is unfeasible. Why? Why would it be an issue for you if I said that it would be good to expand their animation team by like 5% to better accomplish their goals and make sure less things have to get cut(because things always get cut because of time constraints in every game, just a matter of how much at the end).
Anonymous No.718096945
>>718096157
>Hoopa-Unbound
Like 90% of it is just effects and still hand pngs.
Anonymous No.718097041 >>718097185
>>718094068
I abhor even calling partywide exp points a "quality of life" thing, with the implication it's improving on what was. No, it's just a game design choice. And I don't like it.
Anonymous No.718097045 >>718097375
>>718096035
>This is one of the animations
ok wigglefag so think
Why does this move NOT use the physical attack animation when it's a physical attack?
Anonymous No.718097185 >>718097502 >>718098247
>>718097041
>I want more tedious grinding
Anonymous No.718097375 >>718097535 >>718098053
>>718097045
It wows me that you see that and your first thought is to run to bat for it. THIS is defending something with your life. Anon, you can just say "yeah a lot of these move animations are half-assed" but you can't do that the way I can let go that things in e33 or P5 could be better. Go to a similar vid of those games and find one that looks like trash and I'll say "yes that does look bad" but I show you that and you want to justify it. Crazy.
Anonymous No.718097502
>>718097185
There's a difference between tedious grinding and getting so much experience by doing nothing that you're 20+ levels above all NPCs at all times. The only way I found to deal with this on my Sword run was by changing my team after every gym and it STILL wasn't enough holy shit.
Anonymous No.718097523 >>718098249
>>718096858
>I am not asking for 50 animation studios to work on a single game
Problem is, you are. You're not putting any thought into what you need to get what you want. This is pokemon you know, not persona or E33 where they recolor monsters and can reuse animations and have it just work.
Almost every pokemon has a unique model and skeleton and as such they would need unique animations for just about every move compatible with a pokemon.
In fact, scratch that, this is pokemon, they like to do event distributions for pokemon with moves they can't normally learn like flying pikachu so you would need every pokemon to be compatible with every move.
And modern pokemon games have a roster of 400 which can go up to about 500 depending on forms like how rotom has five different ones for instance.

Have you grasped how absurd that is?
It's on a wholly different level to any of the games you've mentioned.
Anonymous No.718097535 >>718098249
>>718097375
It wows me that you look at that and don't immediately recognize
>Oh ok it's supposed to be silly
If they wanted to that move could use the exact same animation as the physical attack but with hearts coming out or something, but they don't because it's a cheesy and easy way to make the move distinctive.
Anonymous No.718097553
>>718089321
She just enjoys having a giggle.
Anonymous No.718097661 >>718097913 >>718097961 >>718098158 >>718098664
>>718070694
I also don't see the appeal of Lana that much (unless it is a male POV and she is in all fours) but I wouldn't call her generic
Anonymous No.718097913 >>718099528
>>718097661
>I also don't see the appeal of Lana
>saves and posts Lana porn
hmm...
Anonymous No.718097961 >>718098750
>>718097661
Retarded AI street shitter
Anonymous No.718098053 >>718098249
>>718097375
>but you can't do that the way I can let go that things in e33 or P5 could be better.
Uh, sure you can. E33 and P5 being considerably smaller games have no real excuse for looking like shit since there's so few assets to actually work on and a metric fuck ton are used, not to mention both had much longer dev time and a smaller team to manage.
Pokemon on the other hand is the exact opposite, a team of about 1000 people worked on it making management an issue, there are hundreds of pokemon that can't share actual animations like the previously mentioned games and it only had a dev time of 3 years with no delays.

You've basically just shot yourself in the foot because you didn't think about what you were talking about
Anonymous No.718098109 >>718098198
>>718080253
fucking wii zoomer
Anonymous No.718098158
>>718097661
brown retard
Anonymous No.718098198
>>718098109
Battle Revolution literally has the same animations from Stadium but more. Nothing zoomer about this
Anonymous No.718098247
>>718097185
Who the fuck grinds in babby's first JRPG
Anonymous No.718098249 >>718098463 >>718098705
>>718097523
>almost every pokemon has a unique model and individual skeletons and it would be just too much man
So how did they do it for gen 6 with 800 pokemon total and adding new ones like gen 9 did? That's the one that had megas as well. Did GF just figure it out then and forget? Fucking dumbass. You know nothing of this series.

>>718097535
You can just say "a lot of them were half-assed" and not be a drone. There are many more in that vid but you'll dismiss them all.

>>718098053
>no man they had to do X with Y time and Z people
Sounds like they should have planned it better and properly managed their development so it didn't come out as a buggy fucking mess. Please don't tell you me you think they did a good job with the release of S/V. You're just saying they didn't execute well on their task.
Anonymous No.718098374 >>718098790
>>718081585
Why isn't it possible if you own the assets?
Anonymous No.718098463 >>718098894
>>718098249
Ok anon tell me which of these is best and most reasonable option cuz I'm curious what you think
>Company makes a brand new attack animation just for covet across all ~1000 Pokemon
>Pokemon use their generic physical attack animation with hearts coming out instead of wiggling
>Wiggle that isn't shared with any other move but looks silly
Anonymous No.718098664 >>718098937
>>718070694
>>718097661
Why did these posts cause so much anger?
Anonymous No.718098705 >>718098894
>>718098249
>So how did they do it for gen 6 with 800 pokemon total and adding new ones like gen 9 did
They didn't, do you think this animation complaint started with gen 9?
Speaking of here's something I missed, a lot of pokemon had their models updated for SV, for XY the models were reused coming from the pokedex 3d.

>Fucking dumbass. You know nothing of this series.
And yet I'm showing you up at every turn. Typical of a pokefag to know nothing about the series he's passionate about.
Anonymous No.718098750
>>718097961
rent free
Anonymous No.718098790
>>718098374
Because owning the assets means making them yourself.
Anonymous No.718098894 >>718099151 >>718099535 >>718099715 >>718100202
>>718098463
4th option, what I've been saying
>1 or 2 more attack animations per pokemon, distributed to appropriate moves to add variety so things don't look as half-assed
Now it's your turn to bend over backwards and tell me how that's just not possible on a 500-pokemon dex when they did an 800-pokemon dex in the past with megas. Those 300 cut pokemon had more than 2 animations to their name, I'm pretty sure.

>>718098705
>they've been complaining about it in the past too
So we had an 800-pokemon dex with shitty animations, they cut 300 pokemon, each of which have a lot more than 2 animations to their name, and they can't add 2 more animations to the curated 500-pokemon dex because...?
Commence the coping again.
Anonymous No.718098937 >>718099674
>>718098664
>/v/ is full of trannies
>a lot of trannies are ''artists'' (read: the sit on their computers all day with a tablet in hopes of selling their scribbles to other trannies)
>artists seethe at AI art
>/v/ seethes are AI as a result
Anonymous No.718099014
>>718039810 (OP)
boy tummy ToT
Anonymous No.718099151 >>718099915
>>718098894
>1 or 2 more attack animations per pokemon, distributed to appropriate moves to add variety so things don't look as half-assed

But the thing you're asking for isn't even really specific. What kind of animations for what kind of attacks? To me it seems like your problem is the wiggling in and of itself rather than a belief that certain moves aren't represented properly by their animations.
Anonymous No.718099178
>>718079373
You're in for gold
https://x.com/Mawaifu_/status/1895462963584335967
Anonymous No.718099343 >>718099616 >>718100289
>>718039810 (OP)
>the models don't even move
Is this what PokΓ©mon have become nowadays?
Anonymous No.718099528
>>718097913
I like peachy butts anon, Im only a man
Anonymous No.718099535 >>718099915
>>718098894
>and they can't add 2 more animations to the curated 500-pokemon dex because...?
Chainging your argument again I see.
Okay, let's say they changed double kick to make every pokemon actually perform a kick.
You're seeing it as "just one more animation" when in reality you've just asked them to make 500 unique animations and it's not as simple as it sounds there either many pokemon don't have legs and like you were told before, every pokemon needs to support every move just in case of a unique distro coinciding with a the anime. So now they have to somehow animate a legless pokemon kicking in some way and it's not as simply as just getting someone to work on it one day, they actually have to design it and put thought into the motions. Now think about that but for every pokemon and for every move.

As you said, commence the coping again.
Anonymous No.718099616 >>718099830 >>718099859
>>718099343
Anon, that game is almost 10 fucking years old.
Anonymous No.718099674 >>718100615
>>718098937
>/v/ is full of trannies
Is this a confession or something?
Anonymous No.718099715 >>718099915
>>718098894
>and tell me how that's just not possible on a 500-pokemon dex when they did an 800-pokemon dex in the past with megas.
Anon, they did that BECAUSE they made those generic animations. How are you not getting this?
Anonymous No.718099830
>>718099616
And? What's your point?
Anonymous No.718099859
>>718099616
So is he to be fair.
Anonymous No.718099915 >>718100264 >>718100650 >>718100734
>>718099151
Direct attack animations that better reflect speedy/tricky vs strong/direct attacks, animations that differentiate between moves that buff yourself vs moves that debuff the enemy. Give each pokemon one or two more animations for things they would do in battle that can give them more personality.
Once again, they had an 800-pokemon dex with animations so don't fucking tell me that's not doable because adding 2 animations to 500 pokemon is a lot less work than it would have been having the other 300+ pokemon they didn't have instead.

Can you finally cop to that being a reasonable ask or are you going to evacuate your bowels again?

>>718099535
>you've just asked them to make 500 unique animations
That's less than asking them to make a full suite of models and animations for 300 additional pokemon and they did that before.
>every pokemon needs to support every move
Have you played these games since they hit 3D? It's using the best animation(or just idle lmao) with effects around them. Add two animations and that doesn't change. You just have two more options for the animation that you play with the effects.
I don't know why you keep saying "every pokemon must support every move" like that changes anything. It doesn't. Covet is the idle stance inching close to the enemy. Must have been real hard to support that one with each pokemon huh?

>>718099715
Then at least add two more that are generic but still descriptive in some way to flesh out the battles so it's not so shitty. They've been doing this for over 20 years for fuck's sake. It's been over 12 years since they swapped to 3D.
Anonymous No.718099993
>>718063151
Gen 7 may be shit, but Oranguru alone prevents it from being the worst design wise
Anonymous No.718100202 >>718100647
>>718098894
>Now it's your turn to bend over backwards and tell me how that's just not possible on a 500-pokemon dex
highest grossing franchise or not that's still 500 pokemons X 900+ moves that's like 450000 shit
Anonymous No.718100264 >>718100647
>>718099915
I don't think it's super unreasonable but I also think you're missing the point, even if you added extra animations to Pokemon you are still going to get move overlap to the point where "Covet uses the exact same animation as Y move but with hearts coming out", which is what the wiggling is an effort to avoid. Adding more animations doesn't remove that problem.
Anonymous No.718100289 >>718100967
>>718099343
eevee and the fish are moving? are you retarded
Anonymous No.718100615
>>718099674
Yes.
Anonymous No.718100647 >>718100859
>>718100202
>500 pokemon x 900 moves
What? No. I am saying that you add two animation to each pokemon and now you have that material to work with when distributing it to the 900+ moves. Then instead of 300 moves sharing a single animation, only 150 will. I'm not saying and have never said to separately animate all 900 moves, faggots just want very badly for me to say that because that is unreasonable, whereas what I am actually suggesting is reasonable and they have to pretend it's not.

>>718100264
>you'll still have overlap
Fine but you'd have less and the game would be better for it.
>it doesn't solve the problem
It improves it. Should we take away the special attack animation in the next game because we've have overlap anyway, or is the game better for having that animation? If you say "no" then we are in agreement here.
Anonymous No.718100650 >>718101205
>>718099915
>asking them to make a full suite of models and animations for 300 additional pokemon and they did that before.
Which they haven't. For one the XY models came from Pokedex 3d which was done by creatures, and where exactly are you getting this 300 number from anyway?
XY to SV only had about an average of 80 new mon each and because they reused animations for XY to SS they wouldn't have had to do 300 mons worth of work in three years. Oh yeah, designing new mon to animate in the first place is another thing to add to the growing list of "just 2 animations" requirements.

>I don't know why you keep saying "every pokemon must support every move" like that changes anything
Because it does, you want every move to have a unique animation for every mon. That includes your support moves like covet.
>Must have been real hard to support that one with each pokemon huh?
It's almost as if they could do that because it wasn't designed to be unique which is the exact opposite of what you want.
Anonymous No.718100734 >>718100895 >>718101205
>>718099915
>Then at least add two more that are generic but still descriptive in some way to flesh out the battles so it's not so shitty.
What the fuck does that even mean?
Anonymous No.718100859
>>718100647
>Fine but you'd have less and the game would be better for it.
But Covet's current wiggling animation is not shared with anything
Anonymous No.718100895
>>718100734
It means he's a pajeet and can't into English.
Anonymous No.718100967
>>718100289
Do you live your life being disingenuous all the time, or it's only on 4chan?
Anonymous No.718101205 >>718101440
>>718100650
>Oh yeah, designing new mon to animate in the first place is another thing to add to the growing list of "just 2 animations" requirements.
and having to do it with 300 less because you run a curated dex now makes that a lot easier, bud. This is a series that has run a very predictable and formulaic course. I expect GF to get better at it overtime, not worse.

>you want them all to have unique animations
It would be cool but what I said actually was "give them two new animations to share moves around with". I get you want me to argue that everyone should have a billion animations because it makes your refusal sound more reasonable but that's not what I'd be asking for.

>>718100734
Clodsire in gen 9 uses the same animation for protect as he does for toxic. If there was another reasonably descriptive animation that was more aligned with buffing yourself or with debuffing the enemy then clodsire could use that more appropriate animation instead for protect/toxic and the game would be better for it because he will be using those two moves together much of the time.
Anon said the animations are generic and so they could make all of those. Well, with 300 fewer pokemon they should be able to squeeze in a few more generic(but at least somewhat descriptive) animations for the pokemon. Is that more clear?
Anonymous No.718101440 >>718101585
>>718101205
what animation does clodsire use for spiky shield now then
it's both kinds of move at once
Anonymous No.718101585 >>718101717
>>718101440
Whichever one is more appropriate. There will inevitably be some overlap even with an added animation or two, but having another animation to work with would be better. Do you think the game would be BETTER, or WORSE if there was another animation to make some moves more descriptive?
I don't see why that's so hard to process for people in this thread.
Anonymous No.718101717 >>718101887 >>718102091
>>718101585
I don't see why it's hard to process for you that even if you add one or two animations to every Pokemon (that takes a shitload of dev time away from everything else btw, they added a bunch of new animations for overworld shit in S/V), you are still going to have the problem that a bunch of moves have overlap. Wiggling and other similar non-animations are a way to avoid that without taking excessive dev time.
Anonymous No.718101887 >>718102091
>>718101717
It's because he's probably thinking about one pokemon and one move rather than the ramifications it would have on every pokemon and every move.
Anonymous No.718101962
>>718039810 (OP)
Yes
Anonymous No.718102091 >>718102179
>>718101717
>there will still be overlap!
Correct. Let me ask you again.
Do you think the game would be BETTER, or WORSE if there was another animation to make some moves more descriptive?
Do you think the game would be BETTER, or WORSE if we took out an animation or two from battle animations?

>>718101887
Why do you keep pretending that just adding an animation to swap out for a few moves means we have to retool everything for every move possible? How retarded can you get? I explained it to you already.
Anonymous No.718102105
>>718039810 (OP)
no, i was already too old for it so it never got the nostalgia boost.
Anonymous No.718102179
>>718102091
THE GAME WOULD BE BETTER WITH HYPOTHETICALLY AN INFINITE NUMBER OF ANIMATIONS
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHY THE DEVS USE WIGGLING