Thread 719925637

How's your exploration going?

like shit
straight downgrade to HK besides sprint and combat

To be honest, the game is getting carried hard by hornet being able to dash. I am not a fan at all of the quest system (it would be a lot better if you could collect items before getting the quest), the lack of benches in some places like the last judge is absolutely ridiculous, and way too many enemies deal 2 masks of damage, which makes the first mask upgrade entirely pointless. Normal filler enemies are also too tanky. There is also an absolute lack of excitement after killing bosses because usually there is no reward. In HK you would get geo, charms, shards, or something else. In Silksong most of the times you don't get anything. Tools are nice, but you run out of uses way too quickly, so in the end it feels like there is less combat variety than in HK due to the lack of spells. And I only got vaguely spoiled, so this may be wrong, but the godhome + flower ending being canon in HK just seems wrong. It should've been Dream No More. And lastly, I'm pretty annoyed that I haven't heard Hornet say "Shaw". All in all I still think Silksong is pretty good, and maybe my opinion will change in act 2, but so far HK is just a better game.

HOW MANY HOURS DOES YOUR SAVE HAVE?

HOW MANY MAPS HAVE YOU FOUND?

Is The Cradle the last zone or something? Did I accidentally beeline through the game? I know I’m missing a bunch of maps (including Vault’s map item which I can’t fucking find) and haven’t been through Mount Fay yet.

Help, where the fuck do I go? I have Blasted Steps, Sinner's Road and Hunter's March available, but they all rape me. Last boss I killed was Widow.
Which one is the progression path?

Trying to do Last Judge is triggering my Rayman PTSD.

cant figure out how to access this hidden area. and how to get the mask shard on deep docks

>>719925821
6 hours. then started all over again to see if I can save that one pilgrim from going feral

>>719925821
15 hours. 13 maps

HK had better atmosphere.
Principally, I think Hallownest was a lot more coherent than Pharloom. In SilkSong, I keep asking myself, why is this area even here?

Was Fourth Chorus supposed to be hard? beat him first try and wasn't even close of dying once :I

>>719925795
It's not canon, it's left intentionally ambiguous as to what ending is canon or if it's even a prequel or sequel.

Got to act 2. Still can't believe the hardest boss so far was a fucking giant fly in a tight room summoning trash.

>>719925821
18 hours and 17 maps

>>719925865
Wall cling is the answer to both of your questions.

When should I explore the sinner's road? I can't even get to the bench there. What a pain

Great game. Solid 8.5/10. Third best indie I've played this year after Pipistrello and the Cursed Yoyo, and Hades 2.
Now for 100%.

>>719925637 (OP)
pretty good. I will admit as of act 1 I don’t really care about fartloom as its a less interesting kingdom than hallownest, but I do like more hornet lore and other small tidbits.

Is the final final boss actually a nerfed version of radiance? I'm gonna be so disappointed if that's the case.

>>719925854
Also a side not, Blasted Steps boss is super vulnerable to the Reaper dash attack. I get past her first phase every time by just zipping in and out.

>>719925918
do you gotta have an specific item for that? I don't think I can wall cling yet

>>719925870
I think it's fair to say that Hollow Knight was a story about Hallownest, while Silksong is a story about Hornet with Pharloom as a backdrop. Personally, I preferred the former.

SIT FUCKING DOWN, WHORE.

Finally got the trap and holy shit this thing is kick ass. Also I learned how to deal with the ravens. Actually easier than I thought.

>>719925795
I actually enjoy the quest system. One of my complaints would be there aren't enough quests. I'm 12 hours in and have only seen like 5 quests.

I just recruited the bell beast, I'm guessing I should get the metal from town for the first nail upgrade?

Hunter's March has a decent item and if you are that far in the game you should have a good enough spread of tools to get to the merchant and grab Fractured Skull tool. Fractured Skull is one of the best tool in the early game as it saves you from death once and can be recharged at the bench. It is in a secret shop hidden behind a breakable wall in pic rel. It costs 400 beads so prepare some rosary strings in advanced. It is absolutely worth it. Don't bother with the beastfly. His crest is dookie and the fight sucks balls.

>>719925979
Yes. It's in the Mantis Village in Funagl Wastes.

I think its different enough to justify itself as a sequel but its close enough to HK where people who really love HK may end up hating this because its close enough to remind you of it but doesn't play they way they want. For me, someone who was lukewarm on HK, I'm having a ton of fun because I find the movement and combat in this game to feel more elegant and satisfying. It is harder than HK but I've enjoyed that a lot, it rewards you mastering the movement and combat more. I think its a worthy sequel and different enough in pretty much all of its design to where someone could say they prefer one or the other and I'd find that valid.

>>719926065
That metal is not for your nail don't waste your geo

>>719925637 (OP)
I've reached the arena fight in Deep Halls and given up after an hour of trying. I feel like I'm gonna have to get the 2nd nail upgrade in order to win this but it’s locked between an extremely lengthy fetch quest and a delivery quest so I'm not looking forward to it.

>>719925821
12 hours
8 maps

>>719925637 (OP)
I just 2nd tried Widow >>719925878
1rst tried Sister Sp

>>719925821
10 hours, 11 maps

I'm so bad at exploring, all my friends have found shit I didn't even come close to finding

What do I do with a full Cogheart? I remember some npc telling me about and to place it somewhere, but I forgot.

>>719926120
I squeezed through it with the poisoned tacks and poisoned midair needle trap

>>719925925
I disagree. Spider bards are a cool as fuck concept. I thought it up before myself

the mist or bilewater. which one is the least cancerous to deal with and should I do either before opening the citadel door

>>719925826
TL;DR do I go explore more or throw myself against the wall to unlock more progression, bros?

>>719925351
>>719925419
OH MY FUCKING GOD AAAAAAAA

>you can set traps during Widow's intro and phase transitions and hit em with the full damage
get punked dorkass

>>719925795
>the game is getting carried hard by hornet being able to dash.
100% this. I love Metroid because of the movement and SPEEED, so am I liking this more than Hollow Knight so far. But fuck me a whole bunch of systems seem downgraded.

Is the Whiteward just a small mini-area?

>>719925979
You get cling grip on Graymoor. you need to clean out the Craw Nest arena on the far east side of the map which will release a bunch of balloons into the area. Then just pogo up towards the top of the screen and you will find it.

Is the first ending missable if you unlock something down the line like in the original

Clockwork Dancers or whatever they're called aka Mantis Lords v2 is the best boss fight in the game

Not hating on it, it's good but I've closed the game out of frustration multiple times. I wish I was enjoying it more than I'm actually enjoying it. Gonna play Hollow Knight instead and finally beat it then come back to SS.

I'm about to get back into it. Trying to explore the current areas as much as I can and doing side quests before diving into blasted steps. Mostly looking for mask fragments since I feel like I have too little health.

I am so sick of them having rooms showing you an item and it locked behind a switch

>>719926307
Hornet moves a lot like Rayman in this game which is probably why I'm enjoying the platforming more than the first game.

>Widow
>phase 2
>music kicks in
this goes so hard
I'm getting my ass kicked so hard

The game is huge, but it's to its own detriment because they got stuck doing the same fucking gameplay loop over and over and over and over and over and over and over. Hollow Knight had it but it wasn't nearly as egregious because of how varied each area was. This game even FEELS linear even when it's not, even in Act 2. And that's mostly because there's no "explore and find out what to do" it's "here you have a mission, go fucking do it". The game is perpetually "look the 3 dreamers are up go there"

>>719926327
umm anon, that gets you the Gossamer Storm. Mantis Claw is in Shellwood.

>>719926065
There is an ore in The Marrow found by detonating one of those explosive rocks on the side of the wall. There is another one that can be found in the deep docks, but you need to enter from the Far Fields and it is a pain in the ass to get. Get the easy ore and use it to buy the spike trap from the Forge lady, save the other free one for later when you need it, and only buy the store one if you want to be a completionist.

>>719926142
widow and last judge are very fair bosses
t. someone who tried 7 hours of radiant markoth the past week

I wonder if team cherry is just enjoying watching people seethe and cope over how hard the game is. They must be laughing their asses off

>>719926196
i found only two pieces, where did you find yours?

I pogo'd off an enemy to get to the upper part of craw lake but then I hit some switch that removed the floor so now I'm fucked until I find whatever skill I actually needed to get up here.

>>719926426
Widow kicked my ass too. Just hug the left side of the wall and only attack her when she rushes at you to slash.

>here's a pogo platforming section
>but first also a flying nigger or two you have to get rid of first

It was comfy so far, i paused at the widow, I'll beat her and then go to hunterw march or whatever, and farm the shop items. i forgot what the green moss alchemist lady was for.

>Pantheon 5 Savage Beastfly
Imagine

>>719926470
I don't remember exactly, I got the last one in the Memorium. I think there was one in the Whispering Vaults, can't remember about the third.

>>719926501
Sounds like a challenge :D

lost in citadel, where do i get the powerup to use the floating rings?

how do i get the music singing shit

>>719925870
Feels like the world is just stretched horizontally. Long rooms meant for sprinting through when they could have just been shorter rooms.

>>719926441
Right, my bad. My brain is fried. I haven't slept since the game droped

>>719925637 (OP)
this shit is so fun to use

How the fuck do I make the bench in Sinner's Road work? Wtf is this shit

I'm twelve hours in and I'm STILL trying to dash through enemies

>>719926507
it's in an area coming from the upper bell tower

sinners road is so fucking stupid what the fuck were they thinking?????????

did anyone get to the shovel knight secret boss yet?

Now that I know what Needolin is I'm rethinking the keybind I chose for it

>>719926110
I just bought it…
What is it really for?

The runback to Last Judge just proves to me that team cherry fucking hates the players. Alright, there's no bench the entire way. And the boss has a gazillion HP. This could still be alright. Shit, but alright. But no, there HAVE to be these nigger flies right in the way every fucking time you run back to the boss.

>>719926531
don't give them any ideas you masochist!

>>719925637 (OP)
just reached bellhart, for the moment I went back to explore and finish quest, items, etc.

Alright, I figured out what these do. They give you a slight chance of taken no damage. They came in handy for the last judge.

>>719926459
You just know Ari Gibon is rubbing his little jew hands together and cackling like a mad man thinking of all the stupid goyim who paid him money and who are seething about the difficulty.

>>719926587
Above the map lady is a breakable wall, enjoy bouncing off of those swinging saws some more

>got wall jump
BRING ME SAVAGE BEASTFLY

FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

FUCK

I FUCKING SUCK AT THIS FUCKING GAME AAAAAAAA

>>719926449
What explosive rocks?

>>719925637 (OP)
FREN

Do you guys think reviewers at ign are fuming because they can't beat the game without 3 months advance?

Finally, Easy Mode.

>Found a tube thing in the portion of the underworks underneath the vaults
>No rosaries
>Go all the way back to farm some rosaries
>Go back
>Can't remember where the tube was
It's over

>>719926661
how do you get this? play(dice) until you win big?

>>719926525
Green Moss alchemist lady gives you the tool that lets you stock one stack of fake thread if you get hit, or three stacks if you get her to upgrade it completely. Both items are called Druid Eye, but the upgraded version looks like three of them smashed together.

>>719925637 (OP)
I started the game today this afternoon and just beat the fourth chorus, when do you get the kingdom?

just killed phantom
holy shit she was so fucking cool
amazing boss fight, easily my favorite so far

>npc tries to peep on hornet
>two npc tries to touch hornet
>kidnap event
>vore enemies you can purposefully not resist the grab
Funny people thought the game was woke but instead it got the kind of stuff you'd expect from old school lewd japanese games.

>>719926772
You just keep playing until he says "I'm out of rose beads, take these instead."

>>719926693
>Congratulations on killing this miniboss enemy in only 40 tries
>Have whatever beads I found in my pockets for reward
>-Team Cherry

Who else thought this little nigga was holding a rifle at first?

>Get Reaper
>Game is suddenly 10x more fun

I just got a baby that won’t stop screaming in my inventory. How do I kill it?

>>719926542
Clawline. It's in the Underworks. You need to enter from Ventrica, and then I can't remember the path except I had to climb a wall and float over some lava.

what do I even do here, I feel like I want to quit

>achievement popped for rescuing HALF of the fleas
ONLY HALF?

is the mist the worst part of this game? seriously

>>719926542
get the white key in songclave, use the white key to go to whiteward, the path is linear from there

>>719926753
Modders? More like cheaters

>>719926623
You use it to get the forge daughter to craft certain tools for you.

>>719926935
get to it flea boy

>>719926890
Where is the bench in this SHITHOLE

unitonically 'm enjoying how much bullshit is in this game. It's fucking hilarious

I swear i died like 20 times trying to do that CBT obstacle course just to fix the bench in sinner's rise

>>719926926
Don't you understand anon, whenever you get stuck be it on a boss, platforming or a puzzle it is obvious what the game wants you to do. It wants you to quit.

And that is why we will all finish this game even though every single person here wants to put their fist through their monitor or television the minute they hit a new boss.

the amount of content in this game for $20 is wild. team cherry outdid themselves

>>719926696
There are some rocks stuck in walls or the ceiling that explode shortly after you strike them. They can reveal secret paths, hidden items, or be used for very big effect in a certain batlte

>>719926908
>You need to enter from Ventrica
I don't even know what that is, I entered from whiteward.
retards sure complain about the game being linear but I still have a ton of areas I haven't even touched

>>719926803
You have been to four of the smallest maps out of 28. Try using your fancy new cloak to see how high you can ride the hto air currents in Far Fields :)

So is Last Judge this game's Ornstein and Smough?

>>719925821
18 hours
10 maps
>tfw retarded

>>719927010
Me too honestly

>>719926861
The satisfaction of knowing I beat him when I was completely out of shards is reward enough. Plus I'm set for Rosaries for a good while now.

where the fuck are the iframes in this fucking game
there used to be a difference between getting hit and falling on something like fucking spikes but there were still general iframes for regular hits and it seems to be gone

>>719926867
If you sneak up on him you can watch him try to spearfish the water striders.

>Die in 3 hits
>Finally increase health 5 > 6
>Die in 3 hits

wanderers crest feels kinda shit, you can do more dps in theory due to faster attacks
but you almost never have the opportunity to double hit because enemies are too dangerous and can't be stunlocked

>>719925865
is it actually possible to save him?

The choral chamber music is so fucking kino

There is zero reason why this guy should do 2 damage

Has anyone found a practical use for the taunt yet? So far the only thing I found is the Bell Beast reacts to it whenever you do it.

>"This boss isn't too bad."
>suddenly, double

>>719927218
Wanderer turns you into the Knight in a game built around playing like Rayman.

Reaper turns you into Rayman in a game built around playing like Rayman.

>>719927270
Total beastfly death

>>719927196
They went way overboard on the double damage, it used to be only for the harder bosses and attacks you really shouldn't be getting hit with in the first place, not to mention the healing change makes it harder to get to an odd amount of health to take an extra hit

>>719927010
same, it remains me to megaman zero shenanigans

>>719926903
Oh boy you are gonna need to do a lot to get rid of that, and it is gonna suck.
>Take Twisted Bud to the pollip quest giver
>You get taken to a new area in shellwood and seal your silk skills (including healing) and prevent you from changing crests.
>Talk to NPCs until you find the right one
>They send you to the Muckroach questgiver in Sinner's Road
>Pay 250 beads
>Take the item you just bought ALL THE WAY BACK
Then you get your silk skills and crests fixed plus you get a BDSM cutscene straight out of Hellraiser with Hornet tied to a table with the Leviathan from Hellraiser 3 probing her body.
Congrats, you now have the Witch Crest.

>>719927281
I can think of at least one reason. Because it is the boss of the worst area in act 1. Might as well be the worst boss in act 1 too.

>>719926538
>memorium
cool

>>719925821
15 Maps, 19 Hours. To be fair though I stopped progressing until recently one I started getting shit like wall cling

>>719927183
The stick bugs in Shellwood were giving me fucking wheel skeleton flashbacks because of this shit

I spoiled myself on the endings and honestly, I am pretty disappointed.

is there a boss or fast travel in hunter's march?

>>719927352
Not him but the chapel of the beast was a nightmare because of the boss damage and adds.

>>719927286
reaper also has that cool attack when you're running

Total antnigger death

>>719925637 (OP)
pretty good
I saved Bellhart and then went back through clearing up all the wishes I had and areas I hadn't seen
and took a detour in jail
about ready to start pushing forward again

>>719927436
That upslash has gotten me into trouble a few times unintentionally jumping into an enemy when I'm just trying to smack it and run.

Last Judge was nowhere near as bad as people said

>>719927505
She is easier than Widow really.

If I enter the bell village through the Shellwood will that remove the Moorwing boss fight or will that only happen if I go there with the fleas?

>>719927505
Piss easy if you use the fire res tool.

>>719927426
There is the beastfly, but it sucks and the crest it gives you sucks. There is also a shortcut to Far Fields in there, but you can't get to it until later.

>>719927556
Widow was way easier to read.

why is no one talking about the mist

>>719927505
Her moveset isn't that bad, but double damage + the runback makes me panic from a mistake and quickly die

how do i fix this bench i paid good money for it

Moorwing or whatever the name of the bird boss kinda annoys me with the contact damage, there's parts of it that really shouldn't damage you.

>>719927643
I ain't been there yet.

>>719926585
>genuine parries
fuck me I might need this
HK's base parry system is so ass it might as well not fucking exist

>huh this lets you bypass damage entirely
>only sometimes though you might still get hit by the attack or the enemy's hurtbox
>it's also frame perfect

Giving you free damage makes it finally somewhat worth it.

>The closest bench to the beastfly is fucking two areas away in Far Fields
>It's closer than the only bench in that area

>>719927643
It's cancer, first I thought you had to follow the general direction fireflies were in, then I found out you had to play the music for them and only then did I realise you can actually kill the ghosts

>>719927662
secret wall on the upper left

To any anon that's completed the true ending, are there any moments/revelations in this game like there was in hk, with the abyss climb? Don't give details just yes or no

>>719927662
Breakable wall top left.

>>719927505
Her spin attack was the only dangrous move she had as it was sometimes very hard to react in time. But the difficulty was learning the moveset because of the runback you had to do each time.

>>719927584
The mothnigger won't be there until you run all the way to the inn in Graymoor and then start running back towards bell town. You know he will have spawned in when you are making the return trip and hear him screech and his shadow flies over the screen. If you take the Graymoor subway back to Shellwood without walking back east to trigger that even he will never spawn in. I know this because I am a retard that kept going east to west and taking the subway back thinking that I must have broke the spawn until I decided to walk back on time instead.

>>719925637 (OP)
I can't make it past the runback to the Last Judge, bros. Is there a shortcut? I can't believe this passed playtesting. Can't even practice the boss like this.

So do I have to go through Blasted Steps to progress? That area sucks ass and Sinner's Roar is a dead end without the double jump.

>>719927593
>Beat Beastfly
>Get a new Crest that gives you lifesteal
>But it only lasts long enough to get 3 hits in
>And it alters your air down attack to where it becomes a lot more difficult to use the bouncing pads
Literally what were they thinking

Where is the double jump located?

Total number of areas?

HOW GET DOUBLE JUMP PLS?

>>719927668
Moorwing pissed me the fuck off because the game auto equipped the heavy crest shitters use and it fucked with my brain.
Got my ass handed to me until I went ahead and switched it back to the default crest and beat him first try.

I'm supposed to be playing as HORNET not Shitternet.

>go to bone bottom
>little pilgrim isn't sitting by the bench
>sit on the bench
>monster wrecks the town
>come back later
>pilgrims is still gone
Where did he go?

>>719927771
>Is there a shortcut?
lol, no

>>719927867
Anon...I...

>Have an item that damages when I heal
>Screen glows red when it does
>Fight boss
>Screen glows red
>I still died because the heal didn't go through
You've gotta be fucking shitting me

>>719927878
Those fucking flying drill niggers are the most annoying enemy in the fucking game. It's not the projectile it's the fact they constantly fly away from you.

>>719927270
everyone does 2 damage from here on out, even the environment
get used to it

>>719927714
playing music lets you kill the ghosts?

Is there a bench closer to the clockwork fucks boss?

I just got to the second boss and im dropping this piece of shit. Im going to go play baldurs gate 3.

>>719927878
Actually diabolical on Hunter crest.
This game is incredibly gay.

GOTTA GO FAST

>>719927837
CEO of Team Cherry Inc here, we implement something called the three how's in our game design. It goes as follows, we come up with an idea for a power up and then we ask HOW can we ruin it, HOW can we ruin everything adjacent to it and HOW can we ruin the player's sense of accomplishment in unlocking it.

>>719927959
Honestly it would piss me off less if spikes and shit did two damage flat but what they actually do is hit you twice for some reason and for some reason that upsets me more.

>>719927996
Nope, enjoy fighting the 3 asshole guards everytime.

A while back I found some bugs in prison. I forget where, and it's been a long time since I've seen them. Can someone show me where they are, and how to free them? Can they be freed? I have the wall cling.

>>719927878
At 11 seconds you can do a running leap and go left, saves a few seconds

>>719927963
No you can kill them at any time I just didn't realise until way too late, it doesn't help they don't give silk and don't flash as regular enemies do but I guess that's meant to add to the creepyness of the area

>>719927996
>>719928045
Bait them into jumping and run under. Worked for me.

>>719927878
>35 seconds even if you dodge everything and have the route memorized
seriously wtf were they thinking

>>719928008
I did it on hunter crest and I didn't see the issue.
Bells are way easier to pogo on than the flowers.

>>719927878
>Hitting any of the bells
Amateur.

>>719927768
Okay cool, I already cleared out Graymoor and got that trigger so the boss itself is the only thing I have left to do there now

>>719925865
In this photo you see where it says deep docks in the lower right and there is a door above? If you go to the left end of that chamber and up and dash all the way to the right you can access it but I think midway there is a wall climb section. So unless you aggro the bug and pogo off him and then dash over to the right you probably cant get it yet.

Also when you go right theres a mini arena room.


Anyways I just exhausted all of my bones fighting Willow so im gonna go farm 500 of them and probably fuck around exploring before I go back.

>>719925821
10 hours, 14 maps
i have just been spamming the dash everywhere

>>719928112
>>719928045
I'm using the bench from the slab, there must be one closer right?

>>719928123
How about don't include a gay-ass fucking runback to your boss
How about that, Team Cherry. This game feels like such ass.

>>719925637 (OP)
like shit
Found the map guy on the warm ways
>didn't have money to buy his map
>fucked around and did some quests and farmed enough money to buy his maps
>go all the way back to wormways
>cannot find him
>bacically search him trough the entire map and in new areas and the dude simply doesn't show up
>died and lost all of my currency.

now i basically stopped caring about having any currency because I know I'll just lose. The guy should ALWAYS be available to buy shit from at the first bench

>>719927878
Yep Im getting my money back.

>Arena bugs don't drop shards
>Absurd amount of backtracking because putting a bench next to a boss/arena fight is a crime appearently
>Currency can just roll away from you into spikes
>45 degree pogo which is fine in combat but fucking retarded in parkour
>that fat crow that is worse then primal aspid
>way too many tanky enemies early on for no reason
its like they designed it to pisses players off.

>>719928194
Yeah the runback sucks, I'm just saying that Hunter crest isn't really that much harder than the other crests.
If anything I find it earier to use to pogo than the slow reaper down strike.

>still in act 1
>already bosses doing three masks of damage

>>719928142
It's been mentioned but you can literally cheat to beat that boss by just luring it out of the arena.

>>719928217
She is always at towns after she disappears dude

I'm playing hollow knight 1... haha...
just killed the mantis lords...

There seems to be like three types of bosses
"I'll throw adds at you, eat shit"
"I'll actually be an honest fight, 1v1 me bro"
And the absolutely horrendous
"I'M GOING TO THROW SEVEN DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTILES AT YOU AT A TIME HAVE FUN SEEING THROUGH THIS CLUSTERFUCK YOU DUMB NIGGER"

>might have missed a boss due to doing the flea quest
>guy who apparently helps is still sleeping in his little balcony alcove
>no idea where this boss is to begin with
>some anons said you can go back to where it is and he still shows up
>beat Widow after some legitimately fun struggles and exploring, feel bad I somehow missed a boss
>also no idea where the hint/beggar friend or church snail went
I hope they're okay ;_;

Is this really just a dead end? Can't believe I poggoed to sequence break here and fought these two assholes for nothing

>>719925637 (OP)
i can't buy the game because of fucking taxes not being covered by my twenty dollar steam card. almost two dollars in taxes to buy a game.

>>719928306
Just say that Willow is filtering you anon.

>>719928173
Yeah, there are closer ones.

>>719928310
>What if... every enemy was primal aspid??

>>719928285
no she is fucking not. i literally went to wormways, she was not there so i went back to the first bench and she was not there either., is there another city

What's everyone's consensus so far? So far I'm going to say this is a 9 out of 10, I dropped it a point because of this artificial difficulty BS and the new horrible default down attack

>>719927837
It's supposed to be an aggressive playstyle. Your heal doesn't actually do anything until you hit an enemy after you pop heal. If you're not aggressive enough your heal is entirely wasted and you get nothing. Your downward attack is that way because it's great for approaching far enemies quickly. There are several enemies that move away from you in this game so that crest is to counteract that. It takes getting used to but when you get better at it you can be very aggressive. I think they should increase the time to heal a bit though or nobody will use it

the fuck is in the terminus area in the citadel

>>719928306
All the bosses in this game are just boss archetypes that have existed forever. Fourth Chorus for example is just another variation of "big giant in the background whose head is the weak spot and who smashes and swipes over lava"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ldz0Hw4J0w

>>719928409
You have to hit her bracelet/bell thing and she shows up

>>719928376
I'm not talking about Widow actually I'm long past that.

>>719928306
Don't forget "My hit box take up half the arena"

This guy widow was such a great boss fight. If the game keeps up this standard of quality, it might be one of my favorites ever.

>>719927668
Both moorwing and sister contact damage throws me off because you knock them down for free hits but you stood a pixel too close and now you have -2 hearts. I hit him once when he was swooping through me and I lost health on the initial hit AND he then dropped in place on me so instantly 2 more damage. It just seems like you should be able to run through them when they are knocked down.

so for the last judge I feel like im 100% missing a bench somewhere. ive tried everything to go up where the map indicates theres a connector but im drawing a blank. surely the one by the bell beast isnt the closest right?

>>719928558
Yeah it was my favorite so far

>>719927845
mount fey(ice area), requires needle throw

How do I get to the right side of the Underworks?

>>719925772
Exactly my thoughts though I don't call it bad, just worse. except for the diagonal pogo.

not being able to stand stil lhas its perks

Widows fucking bell spam

>>719928420
how can you say it is a fucking 9/10 when you are dropping the game for being too hard. that doesn't make any sense

as for me i give it a 6/10 so far.
>>719928476
well shit, i did hit it but i guess i was running and didn't see it. wish they would have told me before.

>>719927878
this is unironically a peak runback
it forces you to be precise before facing a boss that demands the exact same skillset

>>719928558
The story bosses have all been pretty great so far.

>>719925637 (OP)
I havent gotten too far yet since I had to stop and go wageslave, I last got the dash, and its all finally coming back to me. I sort of enjoy Hornet being able to talk and not being silent like the knight, it gives her a different feel and dynamic, she feels more mature compared to the knight, might be a size thing, but a lot of the bugs she interacts with are of similar or smaller size.

>>719928593
lol
lmao

>>719928306
>NPC skin ninja boss that is impossible to hit and dodge
>Regular enemy, BUG BIG AND SHAKES THE CAMERA
>VERY LARGE HUGE BOSS THAT JUMPS IN AN ARC

ok what is the cogwork puzzle I'm not doing that platforming again

>>719928420
now that I got the sprint and am zooming around everywhere I love it, hornet feels amazing to control

>>719928619
you can break the wall on the left and disable the trap.

>>719928625
Never said I was dropping it, retard

>>719928059
You remember the entrance to the Hunter's March with the axe guy guarding it? Really early in the game. The room right below that is a jail. There is a thief in that jail asking you to free him, and the knives are in the cell above his. Thing is if you didn't free him then he probably escaped on his own already. I didn't free him and when I came back he was already gone and his cell door was broken. The guy in the other cell has a bell club and will agro the moment you open it.

I think you miss out on getting the thieves pin later if you didn't free him.

>>719928409
You can go to her spot in town and ring the bell to summon her. It threw me off too

>>719928593
Hold sprint all the way through, you really can just run from the bench to the boss without stopping, the drill flying enemies only become a problem if you stop

inb4 but I get hit!
get good

>>719927853
you have to do this game's version of path of pain

>>719928593
It's the closest, have fun. The main game had this issue already, no clue why they don't let you simply retry. Since you have to pick up your dead loot like in Souls games they could have copies fog gates as well. Or just add a retry button.

>>719928593
no its really that bad. its probably gonna be patched

>>719928704
>I dropped it a point because of this artificial difficulty BS and the new horrible default down attack

>>719928698
yeah done that, took a while to realize the trap was deactivated because I zoomed into that wall spamming attack didn't even notice the mechanism breaking

>>719926650
A lot of things feel like that. People using pogo to skip things? Make pogo worse and have less areas you can skip with it. People used broken charm combos? Limit what kind of charms people can equip. People killed bosses quickly? Have bosses now either constantly move away from you or do things that cause you to dodge for long amounts of time while also having tons of HP.

>>719928593
kek every thread

>>719928762
>Anon admits to being braindead and not knowing how to read

>>719928752
or the thing elden ring did which is let you respawn right outside the boss room

>>719928306
>doesn't recognize "jump to hit" as a boss category
you're just bad at video games

Do you get a Mark and Recall thing like you did in the first game? Sick of getting lost miles away from a quicktravel point

>just found reaper
what the fuck, this shit its so much better

What the hell did I just collect? Kinda looked like a sword hilt.

I'm already at act 2 does anything change or lock out after I do this?
I did most of the sidequests besides the ones that need me to go to the citadel

The boss in Chapel of the Beast took me way more tries than Last Judge
You guys are all a bunch of pansies and just a reminder of how bad /v/ is at videogames

just beat widow, all it took was some poisoned dagger spam, it wasn't even the kind of dagger I intended

>>719928914
Collect another to extend your silk (I have collected 6 and still feel no difference)

>>719928914
Each 2 of those adds 1 pip to your spool

>>719928606
forgot about mount fey. held off on it cuz I assume i needed some ice immunity shit or something

>>719928420
>the new horrible default down attack
My opinion of the game improved dramatically after unlocking Reaper mode and actually having a down attack that feels good to use, I'm enjoying being able to hit shit directly below me again

>>719925927
any tips for the savage beastfly in the chapel

Can you upgrade the other crests or just the hunter one?

>>719928578
yeah, drives me nuts that they hurt when they're downed, esp. since they just fall out of the sky (moorwing) when that starts.

>>719926079
I went there and the merchant was dead but the item was on the ground, maybe cause I finally found that secret area when I was in act 2.

>>719928610
>>719928610
>>719928610
>>719928610
>>719928610
Please I just want to get the needle latch and backtrack to get all the stuff that requires it

>>719928705
Sorry, can you point out the spot on the map?

This run back to The Last Judge is pure cancer

i hate this stupid fucking bitch every time I want to buy pins from her she fucking disappears fucking whore

>get beast crest
>have to pogo to exit (kinda, not exactly)
>have a brain aneurysm trying to pogo with it

>>719929057
manipulate him into skullfucking the adds
pray you don't get the fat fuck add with the spike wings that deal double damage to you if you get hit because that fucker doesn't insta die like the other two add types

Where do I get the colorless upgrade on crest? I believe I have almost finished the game, finished the 3 part melody.

>>719928912
yeah reaper is pretty much a direct upgrade to the base kit
i bet other crests will be better for speedruns but reaper seems to be the most versatile for normal play

Having fun but goddamn HK devs make some of the most fucking annoying enemies on the planet. Particularly the 'fly erratically and attack in a random pattern' types. Fuck they piss me off. Fun game though.

>>719925637 (OP)
>exploration
Total downgrade to HKs mid game. Non stop dead ends with garbage noob trap rewards at the end of optional gauntlets.
Will be a fun game to any% speedrun though since you can just focus on getting the actual good gear and fighting the shit you have to fight

Poison trap and poison throwing knife spam kills shit so much faster than your skill or needle. Spam that shit!

>>719929272
Kek, go outside

>>719929012
same, that shit basically saved the game for me. the dive attacks was fucking terrible.

HAAAAI LAI LAI LAAAAAAAI!

>>719925821
16 hours 21/28

>>719929097
Yeah, here ya go

> grind 500 beads for the key to get a non-shit moveset
> go to Shellwood afterwards
> two maps to buy
> PAY2SIT benches fucking everywhere
> another 80 beads for the fast travel spot
> nothing to grind beads for in the area except those flying harpoon niggas

Being challenging is one thing, but this is downright dogshit design. It drags the entire experience down.

>>719929305
And what do i do once i have none left

>dying while running back to last judge
Maybe the holocaust was not so bad after all...

>Splinter
Holy fuck this can go eat a bag of dicks

>finally beat sister splinter
I'm free. Silksong sure is a good game. You gotta remember it's a metroidvania and go get the cool powerups to win.

Theres this parkour thing in far fields with the red spikes. Worth doing?

>>719929347
STOP FUCKING DISAPPEARING YOU FUCKING WHORE

>>719929242
and i upgrade the regular one fully before finding the reaper...

>>719929272
yes, actually

>>719929392
If you can go to Shellwood, just farm the dudes to the right of Greymoor.

>>719929415
Sister splinter is a joke though? also what power ups lol you cant get a weapon upgrade until later

>>719929272
anon, continue...

>>719929408
Focus on it and let it kill the adds

The air dash is limp

compass costing a VERY limited tool slot is a ?? for me

Outside of that piece of shit fly I have had not much trouble with any boss in this game by the time of beating the Cogwork Dancers or whatever they're called, only taking a few attempts outside of Last Judge which took maybe 10 attempts, the difference in difficulty between the areas and the bosses is extreme

>>719929150
beast was the first crest I found and I genuinely thought I'd unlocked tekken inputs or some shit tanking damage my way out with that useless ass pogo

>>719925637 (OP)
I shant be playing the mediocre 2d indie sidescroller thank you

>>719929528
Yea, haven't used anything else yet.

I heard there was a prison/kidnapped sequence, how can I experience that?

>>719929504
I went to go get the traps, reaper, and threadstorm.

enjoying the game even if there are some questionable things but one of the most confusing so far is how bosses dont drop anything
Like you literally kill a boss and your reward is a bench that you have to pay to access. Its downright baffling

>>719926962
Cope

>>719929586
the magnet for anal beads is nice, but unlike geo in HK, spikes annihilate them which is another ??? for me.

I want to know your Mask Shard to Map ratio because this shit seems insane

Imo the second act is far better than the first one at least so far. The 'secret area' of Act 1 was Hunter's March which is a frustrating pile of shit with no good rewards attached to it. The secret area of Act 2 (At least so far I haven't found another one yet), the Slab/Mount Fay, is an extremely fun area with an instrumental reward associated with it. Hope this continues

>>719929638
same as yours

Wait, I thought people said there were like 28 maps or some shit like that how the fuck did I beat the game already with 15

>>719929638
21 maps 7 shards but i know where 8 and 9 are for me

>>719929347
>all the maps in act 2 so far have just been bought out of kiosks
I miss my musical murderwife!

>>719929679
It's almost as if there's multiple endings.

Someone at TC REALLY wanted to make sure Hornet would get /ss/ art.

why does everything hit for 2 damage, was it like this in the first game??? honestly getting hit by 2 and healing by 3 is pissing me off.

>>719929526
In hk (and every other metroidvania) the air dash is a horizontal line to the side you dash to.
In here, so far at least, the air dash (sprint button) is like a limp downward dash, feels worse because its harder to predict the destination

>>719925870
>>719926014
>HK had better atmosphere.
>Principally, I think Hallownest was a lot more coherent than Pharloom. In SilkSong, I keep asking myself, why is this area even here?
agreed, up until the haunted village there doesnt feel like theres a reason to explore the world, and hornets character isnt engaging enough as a motivation

late game anons, is there any indications endings are missable or is it like hk1 where you find the items you need for different items but can choose to use or not use them during the final boss?

>>719929638
I'm 18/28 and 6/20.

BABIES

>>719929389
Thanks anon

>>719929606
Yeah this is just needlessly punishing
Currency is split into two deposits with only one being used to buy anything, and this currency is rarer, drops in less quantities, drops from less enemies, doesn't drop from bosses like in the first game and is used for basically everything.
Though I do like how this causes the player to need to prioritize. Lack of anal beads means the player has to determine whether a map or a bench (long term vs short term reward) is more valuable to them, while also thinking about the long term of saving up for a special item from a vendor, instead of being able to just buy everything

Is there no way to attack directly down in the air?

>suffered through 80% of the game with shit damage
>just found there is a crest powerup all the way at the start

fucking metroidvanias

>>719929905
You can change your moveset, just continue.

>>719929793
wtf is that tumor

>>719929928
Yeah, but it sucks.

>>719929850
No problem, slapnuts

>>719929856
Just bank beads every time you run across a bead machine or a shop that sells strings. Yeah you lose 25%, but you get to keep 75% even if you die.

>>719929928
Hornet, get in the EVA.

Just got to the bench in hunter's march after buying the map, is this another overhyped area difficulty wise? Didn't die once yet.

How much longer is the last judge fight once you get her into flame mode?

i have like 3 items that say “for collectors of historical items" where do i find the guy? I’m already in graymore ending

>>719929973
I assume she has 66% left

>>719929945
How the fuck does it suck, it's straight up free extra damage.

Still no bapanada...

>>719929992
belltown, eventually

>>719929707
I honestly thought that boss was a red herring. I wouldn't have bothered otherwise. Then again I have no idea where else I could possibly go

>they got away with adding another meatboy saw zone
>when you get there it's just after a hard boss that you'll likely have no rosaries for
>the only bench available costs 15 rosaries
>there's no other way out of the meatboy saw cancer zone
I'm convinced that they were doing nothing for five years, and then on the sixth, realized they had to make a game. This shit reeks.
Is everyone ready for zoomers to fellate this game for the next ten years like they do with HK? Bunch of fucking hacks.

Just found Moorwing, this doesn't seem too bad but 2 damage just for touching him is not great.

>>719929943
Twisted bud. It is cancer and will scream every time you use your inventory FOREVER unless you do a quest specifically to get rid of it which happens to involve locking you out of changing your crest, using silk skills, or healing while going through two of the most cancerous areas in the game, paying 250 beads, and then walking all the way back to where you started.

On the plus side you get a Hornet bondage cutscene and a new crest.

>>719929973
Longer than it takes to get her to it but she does an attack that staggers herself and lets you get some hits in assuming you don't die to it instantly like I did

>>719929905
you can with the wanderer crest, it's left of the starting town, you need either wall jump or the small key to get it

>>719929905
a) get good at the diagonal pogo (not even that hard)
b) go find the item that lets you do it hollow knight style

>>719929969
That bulky bug close to the beggining with the big hammer killed me 3 or 4 times

>>719929856
this would only be true if it were a finite resource that wasnt lost on death. as it stands ive been able to buy every bench, every fast travel spot, a mask shard, a charm slot, a tool bag, and a key (could have gotten other stuff but it genuinely didnt seem worth it from the vendors ive found) but it required me to go out of my way to grind a few times which I simply didnt have to do in HK. the end result is the same with just more tedium which seems worse in every way

Cute

>>719929969
It is overhyped because it is the third area a lot of people in these threads went to, and they went to it underskilled and way too early then decided to just beat their heads against the wall in futility instead of coming back later with better skills and tools.

>>719930076
>hk style
Brah attacking directly down is basically a thing in every 2d game ever

>>719929758
>why does everything hit for 2 damage
Because fuck you
>was it like this in the first game?
Pretty sure only a very tiny handful of bosses could do it

>end in prison
>Forced to use the base moveset with the dogshit divekick again

>>719930059
Sounds intriguing. What's the lore for it?

>tfw now have Dash, Float, an upgraded Nail and a fully slotted Crest, 3+ new directions to go in, and the prospect of saving 800 Rosary for a healing trinket

This game feels so good, bros.

>>719930034
Anon, have you seen the full map?

>>719925924
Hades 2 isn't even out of EA yet.

>>719930035
wait till you see the lgbt-celeste tier garbage later

>>719930043
I take back everything I said, these new grab attacks are pure cancer.

>unlocked parrying
bros the combat is finally fun

jesus christ that sawblade section in the cogworks wasn't optional? it's basically the white palace but you can't cheese it with hiveblood

>>719928705
Yeah, turns out the guy is gone. How fucked am I? Is the Thieves Pin a high tier tool? Am I completely fucked out of getting it?

The chapel of the beast boss is a fucking cunt.
I fucking hate Australia.

>>719930210
No, I did. I just thought that like if I beat it, it'd open up a new section for more. I didn't think Hornet would just murk the hag and be done with it

fuck them birds

is there a shaw button or were we lied to

>>719925637 (OP)
I'm not a fan of the main protagonist being female.
Is there a mod already that would let me change back to john hollow?

>the platforming to get the cling grip
Jesus.

>>719929638
14 maps 7 shards. I tend to go though every nook and cranny

>get to trobbio
>think he's gonna be cool because he has the same colors as grimm
>he's a gay faggot who spends the majority of the battle either invincible or outside the arena entirely
wow
what a letdown

OFFICIAL CREST TIERLIST

- S tier: Hunter
- Crutch for people who can't adapt tier: Wanderer, Reaper
- Why tier: Beast
- Where is this fuckin crest tier: Architect, Witch

>>719930148
>attacking directly down is basically a thing in every 2d game ever
that's why not having that option is an engaging idea. getting mad about it is a skill issue

Rewards are so fucking lackluster in this game. In HK1 you'd get charms and geo out the ass along with cool upgrades, now you still get upgrades but barely any money and pins are few and far between and much less interesting than the first game

based on your guys's experience
is the reaper crest better than the normal one?

What are these stupid purple bugs in shellwood? I swear you can destroy these hives somehow.

>>719930152
Follow the questline and you will find out. First you need to take it to the pollip questgiver to start this new quest.

And a little spoiler for the crest
Whip the needle in sweeping swings. Leech the life of foes through twisted roots.

>>719930310
Wait until you see the platforming for the double jump

>>719930438
seems like a straight upgrade, but I miss the long range stab from the regular dash attack

Why is every platforming challenge Path of Pain now?

>>719930438
I don't like the reaper's crest up attack and the down feels sluggish so i'm still using the normal one

Am I retarded? How do you get the Bilewater Map?

>unlock act 2 after beating phantom
I thought you started act 2 when you unlocked the citadel doors?

>>719930340
What's so crutchy about the reaper crest?

>>719930476
I'd argue it's fucking worse than path of pain because the fucking sections in the citadel are actually pure cancer and do 2 damage if you fall into the spikes because just fuck you I guess

>>719930438

I've just been using Wanderer and provided you have other mobility unlocks it seems to work fine.

Some bosses were more manageable by being able to just wail on them.

>4 hours today
>beat Fourth Chorus
>complete graymore
>unlocked reaper
>brough the mask and medal from the vendor

I need to farm the 500 beads for the key, I feel like I’m going to slow…

>>719930340
You mistakenly put Wanderer and Reaper in a fake tier when they are SS

>>719930423
the money problem corrects itself in act 2 and there's a really good area to farm that I don't even care if I lose anything anymore

>evolved the crest of the hunter
is it good now, or is reaper still za best

>>719930454
Just hit the hive until it breaks, there is no secret

>>719930340
Witch quest chain has been discussed several times in this very thread.

I am still waiting for that double nigger who got the architect crest to tell me how he got it since I told him how to get the Witch crest.

Also I don't think anyone has gotten the Shaman crest yet.

Ive upgraded my nail twice dude

>>719930503
there are two routes, speedrun route is moet likely going to use the phantom route

>>719930438
i need some time to get used to, especially if you pogo a lot because the range is waaaay smaller on reaper

>>719930556
don't get hit silly

I wish there would be a achievement for getting the second crest

>>719930340
Hunter+ is the S tier
When do I get to upgrade the rest though?

Why is he called Fourth Chorus? Who's First, Second and Third?

>>719925637 (OP)
God I wish I could rebind tools to be L1 instead of the useless map button, also what's the point of the gambling? Just a money sink?

>>719930556
Just use poisoned tools, how are people sleeping on this?

I'm confused as hell. Do I need an upgrade to proceed? I thought this was where I'd get the upgrade

Any tips on where to go next?

;_;

How long until I get my first needle upgrade ive reached shellwood. Im nor a huge fan of smaller enemies being tanky

>>719930261
Thieves pin gives you 50% more beads, but you lose beads if you get hit. Risk Reward kinda thing for high level players and speedtrannies.

>>719930438
Using the pins that make you run and heal faster, having more movement options like double jump and harpoon, and then using the Wanderer crest, this game turns into fucking Sonic Advance with how fast you are and being able to just wail on enemies

>>719930667
Because he can sing.
>First Second and Third
You will meet them later.

>>719930697
Oh, alright then. Don't really care about that so no big loss.

>>719930503
How'd you get to phantom?

What were they thinking when they made these bird enemies?

>>719930696
after you unlock the city with everyone getting hung by threads.

anyone else did the room full of enemies that steal your silk? i pushed the cart and cut the thread that was above, what did that acomplish exactly?

>>719930775
oh boy, hope you enjoy the next part ;)

>>719930668
If you beat the gambler enough times he runs out of money and gives you the Magnetite Dice, which nullify one damaging hit and can be recharged by a bench. It's okay, it's random so you never know when it is going to happen so it isn't as reliable as the Fractured Skull which will guaranteed prevent you from dying once before it needs to recharge. But it is nice as a sort of "if it works great" kinda thing.

When the bitch in the Weaver den said "Come back when your soul has grown" does that mean when i fill out the slots on a crest or is some bit of story progression?

>>719930747
through the mist

>>719925837
I think it's blasted steps, we're probably equally progressed. Get a different attack style if you're getting your ass handed to you. I have the speedy one and lungespam my way through everything.

>Mount Fay
Heard barely anyone talk about this. Has anyone here actually done it?

>>719930686
you have to get the grapple to finish it. It's in the fire place to the right. I closed the game and have to go to sleep so I cannot be more helpful beyond this.

please tell me i'm missing a bench and the runback against groal isn't just the entirety of fucking bilewater because if it is i'm flying to australia and fucking strangling these niggers

>>719930826
I don't know, I went there back quite late and she gave me 2 additional slots that work on any crest

>>719930775
use your fucking tools

>>719929928
>>719929945
what crest powerup

>>719930865
currently slogging through it rn, I hate the coldness mechanic

>>719926064
Wtf I have like 10 or so atm and im 9 hours in

Alright how do I beat the bird gauntlet all the to the right of greymoor. Its too damn hard

Surprised there so much stuff in weavenest atla compared to the other needle harp door i did

>>719930865
Everyone who's gotten double jump yeah

1st try. I don't understand how people struggle so much on this boss.

>>719930934
The Sting Shard works best for that arena, but save them for the last phased because fuck the fencer and knife thrower.

>>719930949
Probably talking about the Wanderer's crest since it is ten seconds away from the exit of the tutorial area.

Bros, how the FUCK do I get through the Chapel of Beasts parkour section?

>>719930984
They panic over the adds and lose all their health trying to facetank them.

>>719930963
Tools, use the Sting Shards and try to throw it right in the center of a group of enemies since if it triggers the entire group takes six hits each.

Just discovered moorwing from the right. Is the runback really long, or can I run past it to a closer bench or something?

Also, how do you get more tools? I just have the explodey pins. One of the purchases from the forge daughter said some shit about claws, what was that?

What else is there in them? I got the big dash attack and the speedy charm, and I think that all if we don't count crest shit from atla.

i dont like doing the diag pogo off the red balls in the 2nd(3rd?) area of the game after the bell beast. it just feels clunky and I often die because im not facing the right way or not pressing down enough while still trying to move left or right. not good feeling on the thumbs, every jump feels almost like rng. am i screwed?

>>719930672
Poisoned tools + the spike ball thing = AOE. Pretty neat desu.

>>719925637 (OP)
it's not comfy to play Silksong anymore. loved the first 5 hours, that was comfy.

>>719926890
>>719926693
Just went through this, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? Not that I'm mad, I'm not, but my food has gone cold because I said I was going to stop playing once I get to the next bench.

if you aren't a purityfag using cheatengine or wemod to increase movement speed by 25% and attack speed by 25% makes flying enemies less of an aneurism and honestly the entire game more fun. probably turn it off for bosses so you get to experience those properly.

>>719930556
>Ive upgraded my nail twice dude
I've reached the Blasted Steps and haven't found a single upgrade. Is this normal?

>>719931148
There is some randomness. Only one type of bounce allows you to turn around, so you have to hold the direction you want to divekick in addition to down to compensate and force the turn around for the other bounce types. It feels like shit

>>719931235
Bell town has a guy, he gives you the first one free
The second one is act 2

>>719931235
Go back to bellhart and look around.

>>719930340
>heal with reaper
>every hit now gives you +0.5 silk
It's just the best one.
Beast pogo is really hard to use, hunter has no unique ability and wanderer is way too close range when most enemies deal 2 masks of damage.

I thought you could access bilewater form Sinners Road?

>Citadel is just Anor Londo
>Cogwork Dancers are just Ornstein and Smough
>Last Judge is just Iron Golem
>The Threeway Melody is just the Lordvessel
>You have to go to multiple other areas after beating Ornstein and Smough to collect Lord Souls/Melodies to unlock the Kiln of the First Flame
Hmm

>>719931093
What's sting shard?

>>719931196
the funniest thing is the bench is trap the first time, they were genuinely trolling.

I am stuck again. I made hornet floaty and explored what I could in far lands. Where do I go now?

>>719931310
>Cogwork Dancers are just Ornstein and Smough
???
What the fuck are you smoking dude

>>719930532
I tried to beat one boss for 3 hours and another for 3 hours, didn't beat neither.

>>719931298
>Hunter has no unique ability
You havent unlocked it

>>719931234
I am using the no double damage mod instead. Yes I am a pussy.

>>719931343
continue the far field and go up

Why are so many people beating Lace but then not bothering to walk into the room she was guarding and going back to get anally raped by ant instead?

>>719931310
>you are just indian
hmm

My only real criticism is the compass taking up a slot. I genuinely think that's dumb. Also downwards attacks only being diagonal is still a bit fucky to me. Game is fun though.

>>719931343
The big central shaft in that area has boulders you can break to increase the air vents, use them to fly up to farfield.

>getting use to hunter crest again
what a pain

>>719931353
Two dudes fighting and one of them changes when you kill the other while guarding the mid way point of the game

so what is the trick to progress in the mist do I have to follow the lights or something?

>>719931298
Still has less dps and generate less silk than wanderer. I would suggest to learn playing with wanderer or you are going to have a hard time on end game bosses.

>>719927010
I'd tune up the boss difficulty instead of having these long ass fucking bossruns

>That feel when
Feels good.

>>719931098
There is a bench in the inn if you unlocked it
At this point the only tools you should have available are the knives and the spike trap.

The general concensus on the mothnigger is that it is easiest just to cheese him by dragging him away from his arena to here and just cheating like a bastard. You can also get Bug Quixote to help after moorwing kills you at least once. You can also completely bypass this fight by collecting five fleas and completing the quest. If you do the flea carvan will move to Moorwing's arena and prevent you from having to fight it.

>>719931342
this was such an asshole move desu it got me seething

I'm having fun, Hornet is pretty slow but exploring is nice. However I got completely fucked by some boss bug with an axe. I think I can somewhat parry his hits but I'm missing half the time so idk. Cool game, for 20 bucks it's crazy. I loved Metroid Dread but man it's not worth three of these.

Those fucking big knights in Chorus are the bane of me.
I only just realized that spamming dash attack was the answer, but the daamge to my wallet has been done.

How do I open the door next to the paid shop in far field?
I played my little guitar to it and it said to break something?

the game is annoying
every flying enemy is out of reach
everything does 2 masks of damage so you never really feel like you've gotten a proper health upgrade until your seventh mask
everything takes too many hits
i'm going to stab william and ari in the eyes for the trick benches
half the

>>719931428
>make the downward attack shit
>force people to save up 500 analbeads to get the old superior attack
This is artificial difficulty. They knew no one would like the new attack, which is exactly why the old one is still available

>>719926821
Yo uhh what where is this

>>719931529
>Hornet is pretty slow

question, i travel with the caravan before i reach the mooorwing arena and now he is not spawning, so I just skipped a boss?

Just found out I have a move by pressing down on the right stick. But it sucks now had has no range and normal damage, I guess it gets upgraded later since Hornet is weak now?

>>719931428
You can find an upgrade to have a universal slot independent of your gear

>>719931683
he is unmissable, he spawns again way later

just past the mist

>>719931671
Yeah for now it takes a while to move around. Maybe some upgrade later

>>719931321
You buy it from the Forge Daughter in Deep Docks. It is basically a mine you can plant in the air. Anything that bumps into it triggers it and it creates a huge AOE that hits six times. You get a smaller number than the knifes, but it hits way more times in a much bigger area. You need a craftmetal to make it. Don't buy the craftmetal in Bone Bottom, there is one for free in The Marrow hidden behind an explosive wall.

I feel like I must be missing something obvious. I got to the citadel, went through the underworks, and came out into the choral halls, but they just lead back to the first big room of the citadel. And I can't go back to explore the underworks either because the elevator shaft is closed. I'm just fucking around clearing out stuff elsewhere in the map but I definitely think I'm supposed to keep exploring the citadel.

I watched the grand mother silk fight video because I'm retarded and it literally is a reskinned radiance fight. I thought it was an exaggeration, but no, it's basically the exact same fight. What the hell. This had to have been deliberate, like how Lace is basically Hornet 2.0, but it's pretty disappointing.

>>719927690
A lot of aoe spam attacks can be parried, this usually interrupts the attack and lets you follow up easily

>>719931706
Even multiple, I got 2 of those and she still told me to come back later.

Why does every flying enemy float slightly out of melee range and then they decide to give some of them dashes when you try to get in close

>>719931606
The first health upgrade is huge since it lets you tank an extra boss hit.
You can also get a double heal trinket in act 1 that solves this. It's really just an early game filter.

>>719931606
By the time you get your 1st health upgrade its literally meaningless cause Team Cherry is huffing their own farts and they want to insure you can always die in 3 hits

>>719931342
...I think I missed this bench then...

>>719931730
i imagine that it will happen when the caravan moves again. thank you

>>719931417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFgcqB8-AxE

>>719931779
You are supposed to use your hook on them and then pogo.

WHAT FUCKING BABY
THE BITCH JUST TELLS ME IT'S BIRTHING TIME SOON
HOW DO I GET A BABY
I WANT A BABY
I NEED A BABY
I'M LITERALLY AT THE LAST BOSS WHERE IS MY FUCKING BABY

>>719931743
Lol totally forgot to go back to her. Thanks for reminding me. Last question, is there a good place to farm rosary?

>>719931746
You can climb back up in the big room left of the broken elevator.

>got the architect crest
is it just me or is this thing crazy? being able to regenerate your tools seems really fucking good.
also the charge attack is AWESOME like WOW

>hanging from ring with no solid ground
>two beefy 2-damage-per-hit flying knights spawn
This is the biggest bullshit in the game

>>719925637 (OP)
Is there data on how powerful the different crests are? I like using the reaper crest because I usually equate slow with powerful attacks but I'm not sure if it actually makes enough of a difference

>>719931451
Try playing your needolin.

>>719931757
So by reskinned let me guess. Homing balls, floor spikes, the lazers? is that what you mean? I haven’t watched it.

Fucking finally

>>719931856
have sex bro

Just started. Hunters march is cancer. The sprint skill at the end was worth though.

>>71993055
If you upgraded twice you can literally oneshot the add with the silkspear the moment it spawns. This is the second try only because I was a dumb motherfucker on the first one with his groundpounds.

>>719931903
Literally just jump over them.

Where was the lock for the Apostate key? I found the key but forgot where the lock was.

The bilewater trap room genuinely is the worst fucking thing in this game. This whole zone is fucking awful man. If it was any earlier in the game I can guarantee it would be the games big discourse. It's truly an awful zone.
The trap room too is just fucking terrible man. Fucking terrible.

>>719931920
I'm pretty sure the needle damage is identical on all crests.

>>719931949
Where do you find the food the guy at the oil case asks for?

>>719931856
Settle down, you sound like the white lady, my dude.

The artificial difficulty in this game is really starting to annoy me. None of the challenge in this game feels genuine

>>719931948
Doesn't even have lasers, it's just the sword attack and ground spikes over and over.

> whole map open
> 43% completion

worry.jpg

>do a gauntlet then the rising lava climb
>reward is one mask shard
I'm not gonna say I'm disappointed but I wanted a new move.

Only after getting to Act 2 did I realize Bellpath had an underground area. Still only found 5/8 bells though.

>>719931978
Dropping into the maggot water is a defacto 3 hp damage because it eats up an entire heal.
It's crazy they thought that was a good idea in a zone covered in spikes.

guys whatever you do DO NOT rest in bone bottom after beating skull tryant once

Last Judge runback isn't half as bad as I was lead to believe, it seems to go by pretty quick
fire phase pulps me each time though

>>719932040
huh???

>>719932040
Try leaving and coming back, Bellhart isn't that large.

So we're all using the Wanderer Crest right?

I found the weaver in the starting tutorial zone and it evolved the first crest? But I have no idea what it actually did? Just give me more charm space?

>>719928558
> widow
> guy
rentard

>>719932018
Fucking hell. is that the actual final boss for true ending?

>>719932040
Silver bells are just random spawns. It's stupid.

>>719931609
You can get a free key in Sinner's Road. You can get wall grab and jump over the gate. You can get Reaper and get a different down slash.

>>719932006
Kek they really do be like that

>>719931992
No, the upgrader hunter crest explicitely does more damage the longer you go without getting hit. Wanderer's crest crits pretty frequently. Shaman Crest supposedly does more damage the more silk you have stocked.

>>719932137
did you try READING?

>>719932125
Her second phase can easily catch you off guard but besides the aoe spin attack all of her moves leave her wide open once you learn to deal with their extra fire gimmicks

>>719932169
No it's the hollow knight variant.

>>719932137
Evolved Hunter Crest has a guage that slowly fills the more times you hit enemies without getting hit. When it is full you deal double damage, but you lose that buff if you get hit.

HOW DO I GET THE ABILITY THAT LETS ME LATCH ONTO RINGS
PLEASE
I FULLY EXPLORED THE UNDERWORKS (bar the very bottom area I have no idea how to get to) AND I STILL HAVEN'T UNLOCKED THE LATCH ONTO RINGS ABILITY

PLEASE

I miss him.
Sure he was slow.
But he could use Abyssal Shriek, which would solo half the fucking game.

seeing everyone madling about moorwing I’m kind glad i skipped the fight by a quest lol

>>719931485
Thanks. Did I just not realize knives were for sale in the same spot as the spike trap? Not that I had enough money for both at the time

>>719932250
You get clawline in the underworks, but you need to enter from Ventrica

>>719932250
the surgical key area leads to it

I wish Hornet had any of her classic lines when using skills.

I just got to the forum arena. What the fuck is going on? This is worse than literally everything in HK besides AR. Genuinely besides that even all the pantheons were easier. I don't have any invincible moves to get through enemies and attacks so I just get blocked in by hitboxes til I accidentally float instead of wall jumping or something and then I'm already dead. It's all so fucking tedious, too. The section before this with the water slides took me longer than path of pain did. It's just grind after grind.

Can you just spoonfeed me the locations of the gourmet things for the sword upgrade? I'm so tired of this and just want to brute force it already

>>719932303
HOW DO I UNLOCK THAT AREA

>>719932312
VENTRIWHAT

>>719932320
How do I get that?

>>719932179
NO

>>719932307
No, the spike trap is the knives. It can do both. If you hit them, they shoot knives. If the enemy hits them, they are traps.

>>719932307
Knives are free. You get them from the jail located below the entrance to the Hunter's Match. Enter the door seen here. >>719929389

>>719931706
Great, if the compass didn't take up an equipment slot something else could have gone there.

massive story finale spoiler
our sibling makes a return :D

>>719932172
What? Are you supposed to just walk in and out over and over? I only got 2 clearing above and below so I assumed it had to do with the side branches I can't find the entrance to

>>719932329
Bro the gourmet shit is worse...

>>719932430
Rest at a bench to reset them and spawn them in new locations.

>>719932356
Keep exploring the area passed underworks

I swear the worst thing you can do in the Moorwing fight is have the boss off screen.

>>719932000
lol idk im at just the first upgrade

>>719932378
Oh, did I not need a key to free those fucks?

How hard is the boss fight in the bilewater trap room. Is he tanky? I can't be added to do this runback any more man. I fucking hate this place

>>719932483
you just need to be very agressive with him, dont prolong fight

Why did they make the final boss so thicc?
Are they trying to get people to draw porn on every character?

>>719932456
goddamnit.

I think the only thing thry need to change is that touching a boss should only take one mask away instead of two

>>719932505
No, you can just hit the door until it breaks. If you leave and come back later the door will already be broken and the thief is gone.

Got a second simple key, best way to use it between sinner's road cage and deep docks closed area?

>>719932108
why?

I just got caught, are you able to find the apostate key in the jail or is that something way later?

I like the drill.

>>719932602
later

>>719932594
Deep Docks has a tool that buffs your weapon with fire damage for a few seconds.

What are the beastfly's death points? Like, he gets stunned at least twice, and there's a point where he double summons. But I'm not sure if that's an indicator of health.
I need this to be over.

>>719932483
That’s how I felt. The instant I can’t see anymore I’m ready to jump because he’s going to side sweep. I got hit every time so I just never let him leave my screen.

>>719929347
She can never replace Cornifer, but her song gets stuck in my head.

>>719932531
yes
they were clearly horny going through the development of this game

FUCKING MOSS MOTHER SPAM

>>719932602
where’d you get caught?

>>719932610
Yeah, it's pretty great. Cogwork Wheel is pretty great too.

>>719932548
Fuck me I guess then. Thanks anon

>>719932668
By a jailer bug while I was looking for a guy in greymoore

Please tell me there's a tool equivalent of Quick Focus somewhere in the game.

What's the actual final boss radience equivalent in silksong? Did anyone get to it yet?

>>719932705
Yeah, there is a theives pin item you are supposed to get later in the game, but I haven't gotten it since I didn't free him at the time so I think you locked yourself out of that item...

>>719932747
Yes

>>719929425
I thought that was a guy

>>719932385
Making things needlessly annoying and tedious is subversive and brilliant! If you don’t like it, you’re getting filtered!

Feels like I did something weird going through the front gates of the Citdael, then leaving and getting back into there through the Exhaust Organ (and Phantom fight)

If youre wondering the architech crest is here

>the high halls arena
what the FUCK were they thinking?

>enter a cave
>fucking lava on the bottom
>HEY GUYS YOU HAVE TO KILL THESE FUCKING FLYING BUGS :)
>Oh you did? btw now you have to escape the cave while the lava is rising?
>also btw, I see you're trying your best to not hit the spikes, but also those flying monsters that spit out of explosives are also there to fuck with you :PPPP

What the fuck is this game man

>>719932760
What fun game design. Did it have some visual clue that the doors could be busted open?

>>719932845
my favorite encounter so far, that shit was INTENSE

>>719932835
is that bug female? she has a nice abdomen but i dont wanna be gay.

>Graymoore
How far is this into the game? Just wanna know how big this map is without spoilers

>>719931412
>>719931434
there is a horizontal door that doesn't open. how do I unlock it?

Easily the best boss so far

>>719932747
The Weavelight which increase the speed of silk regen. Kinda related but there is also the Egg of Flealia which halves the cost of silk skills when you are at full health.

>>719932035
>whole map
lmao

>>719932940
20%

>>719932889
NTA but the lock was rusty and worn. Kind of screamed 'hit me'

>>719932889
He shakes the door if you stand there and it looks kinda like a breakable wall when you strike it for the first time and it hasn't broken yet.

>>719932972
We have Hornet at home boss

[spoilers]I remember seeing a female ant boss fight in the early trailers. I didn’t see anyone talk about it. Is that still in?[/spoilers]

>>719932951
like 1/4 os the map

>>719932889
I didnt free and still can access his shop

sisters of battle, nkg and pure vessel > every silksong boss

>>719933005
Dang. Probably would have thought to do that if I hadn’t recently gotten to the 500 bead paywall door

the diagonal balls bouncing directly upwards in the widow fight is the most retarded thing ever

>>719933045
mean to >>719932940

>>719932951
>there is a horizontal door that doesn't open. how do I unlock it?

i remember that there is a switch when you leave the town that unlock the air to continue going up

>>719932972
Tell me the EXACT path you took to get to him

>>719933036
Shes a counterattack boss
Was fun as shit

Can't even afford any of the maps or markers... where do I farm some rosaries, I only just got to Widow and I'm already getting filtered.

>Moorwing does the dive attack
>Jump and pogo over it
>Before I can even land the boss already turned around and fired a projectile and there's nothing I can do to avoid it
What the fuck?

guys, do the thief charms actually give you more beads? i think i might have gotten scammed...

>>719933147
Go right from the bar, enter cave, kill 3 bugs, back to bar.

he lost his rosaries for food :(

>>719933131
Greymoor->Sinner's Road->Bilewater->Mist->Exhaust Organ

>>719933183
Your air dash?

I found the way to summon Shakra in the Bone Buttom camp.
Don't know why so many anons missed it.

>>719933208
You get more beads, but you also lose beads if you get hit. Unironically a skill issue.

is throbbio obligatory or optional? seems harder than anything so far

I hate the savage beastfly so fucking much, there's nothing but contempt and hatred left in my heart right now

Why does every fucking thing have to be a "gotcha" trap

>>719933183
People will try to tell you otherwise but the answer is that pogoing him in phase 2 is too risky, stick with side and up slashes.

>>719932983
>>719933045
Grim. So much for people saying this was going to be twice as big

>>719933332
dood... it's the dark souls of indie games! git gud lol

>>719933249
what the fuck. Guess I should actually explore greymoor then. Unless I need more movement options unlocked.

>>719933283
and the harpoon one? it says that it steals beads directly but i don't seem to gain any when i use it

>>719933332
Why did you choose to stay on that wall while waiting for the thing to explode

>tfw ran out of trap materials and still no beastfly kill
Make it stop.

When can you get the witch crest?
I just got to the Last Judge fight.

>>719933402
You definitely need all the movement options available in Act 1 AFAIK
Btw that boss also gives you an alternate path into Act 2

>>719933394
Reminds me of how in Dark Souls 3 there were more mimic chests than regular chests

>>719927681
see for urself

>>719933441
Use Gossamer Storm to help clear out the ads

>>719933441
Honestly come back later, you'll get an ability that makes the fight easily in another hour or so.

>>719933418
I don't mind getting hit by the explosion too much, I did jump into it by accident, it's the fact they drop a boulder on you half a second into the room when all you can see is spikes

I used the key in Deep Docks. Am I good boy?

>>719933249
How do you get into sinner's road from greymoor? I thought I had already fully explored the area. The only possible location I can think of is that bug callling itself your servant.

>>719933482
I have everything unlocked up to the needolin. Is that it?

>>719933520
Fuck's gossamer storm? You mean the one from Greymor? I have it.

stop running away from me cowards FUCK

>>719933531
i don't know what game that is but this is a silksong thread

>>719933249
you can get to the mist from bilewater? I went to the mist straight from sinners road

>>719933465
Do the Pollip Heart quest in Shellwood, progress until Act 2 and then unlock Clawline in the Underworks. This lets you open a Ring doors in a hidden room in the Whispering Vaults, which takes you to a new section of Bilewater, which itself has a secret area where you get an item called a Twisted Bud, which just plays a constant screaming noise while looking at your inventory (yes its annoying). You bring it to the Pollip questgiver, the take you to a new area of Shellwood and locks you out of your Crests and Silk (so no Healing), and you have to talk to NPCs to find this one NPC who can fix it, and then you find them and they need you to go to the Muckroach Guts questgivers in Sinners Road, pay 250 beads, take the item they give you back THEN you get to have your Silk and Crests fixed and get the funniest cutscene I've seen so far

>>719933531
If they made flying mobs have 50% less go then it would be perfect

>>719933583
Her air move that uses silk. I don't know if that's the actual name for it, I just looked it up on the wiki.

>>719933531
>perfect boomerang angle
It's like your subconscious is screaming at it

Why do they tease you with shit like this and make it look possible when it's clearly not
Just don't put the pogo-able obstacle there, it's not hard.

>>719933637
Didn't know that. I definitely went through Bilewater. It was right next to the Bilewater Bellway.
It was quite an annoying trek though because the Bilewater map wasn't available.

>>719933557
You can see the air lines even if the boulder is off screen tbf

is weaver phase 2 the same hp as 1 or do you just have to knock her out once?

>haha le funny fake bench
>in fucking bilewater
not funny this time

>>719933531
BRING IT BACK
BRING IT BACK
BRING IT BACK
BRING IT BACK
BRING IT BACK

Is the guy locked in his house bellow where you craft the bombs actually part of anything?
He just keeps telling me to fuck off.

>>719933739
so you can come back later with the appropriate upgrade. anon have you never played a metroidvania before

>>719933840
Maybe you should fuck off, cunt.

>>719933838
>Finish act 1
>Not a single decent upward attack
>3 different ceiling based bosses
Actually insane.

>>719933830
There's another bench in Bilewater it appears after beating the boss, meaning it's almost entirely worthless
To add insult to injury, it appears in a slow and deliberate fashion just to make fun of you.

If you heal between the phase change animation in the widow fight you just lose you silk.... 10 years in the making huh?

How the fuck am I supposed to get there?

Next thread, OP

>>719932610
can you pogo with this? it would be the perfect complement to architect crest since that thing has a godawful pogo.

>>719933983
Far Fields? You beat Lace in Deep Dock and then just walk in.

>>719933902
your traps?
your boomerang?

not my boy.......

>>719934064
NTA but where do you find the boomerang?

>>719934047
How to get Architect?

>>719934063
No dude, the area above pilgrims rest.

>>719934079
You can actually find out his name? They just unceremoniously tossed him into the hole for me

>>719934097
Ant area vendor

>>719934079
Wait, what the hell. My Hornet didn't say that line. I even made sure to exhaust all of his dialogue.

>>719934139
Hunter's March or is there another area? I didn't see a vendor there.

I hate the bilewater runback so much. Please tel me Bilewater is skippable

>>719934139
Hunter's march, it's in a hidden room.

>>719934187
I beat the game and never found it, you tell me.

>>719934102
get a lot of tools and buy the key from twelfth architect.

>>719934187
I don't even know what bilewater is and I beat the game

>>719934215
>>719934264
I don't believe you

>>719934208
Guess I gotta go back and explore, thanks

>>719934208
>hidden room
Where?
I'm there now, might as well check it out as I've reached the mental limit with redoing beastfly.

Next thread?

>simple key is 500
NIGGA I CAN BARELY KEEP 80 ON ME

>>719934292
be the change you want to see

>Found a random lifeblood flower
>Thought it would be some kind of cool item
>It just pops and does nothing
There has got to be a secret or quest here.

I keep seeing naked hornet, how do you even acess the rest of the slab????

>>719933865
Metroidvanias seem like kind of a stupid idea.

The roaches are literally pinning me down and raping me

>>719934285
Dunno what to tell you buddy

Bilewater is genuinely the worst area in the game in my experience

>>719931485
you could have a lot more than that available, fan knives, mines, heating your nail for fire+extra damage, straight knives, boomerang...

>>719934440
so did you see everything in the map or just speed run to the end?

>>719934125
>>719934148
that's strange, the time we interacted before this we exchanged names, mind you i did this late into act 1

damn i thought bilewater was lategame, i haven't found it in sinner's road lol

>>719934515
It wasn't a speedrun, I genuinely didn't know. I now realized and area I missed that might've taken me elsewhere but I'm going to take a break before I tackle that.

>going down the starting hole after the funeral and using the needolin lets you hear the dying thoughts of the bug
I WILL FUCKING KILL EVERY SINGLE SKULL TYRANT IN THE GAME, I SWEAR

Just beat the Last Judge, no reward other than walking past his room and then I have to pay the fucking currency to use a bench ONE TIME.
I honestly think that Silksong is one of the worst games I have ever played.

>>719934440
you didn't beat the game

>>719934572
does he say more than just 'citadel...' - i didn't have enough silk to play longer

>>719934358
Just go up

Oh this fucking Jew charges every time you wanna open the door

>>719934653
Whelp, now I have to go back and find it again?
Do you remember what zone?

>>719927878
This can't be serious.

the wandered feels way better than the reaper

>>719934106
Enter from the weavers area at the bottom of the far fields. There is an elaborate series of thermal drifts you need to unlock by making rocks explode and gradually work your way up room by room.

THIS BRAT THIS BRAT THIS BRAT THIS BRAT.

>>719934760
No, it's definitely serious. The runback forced me to get good so I don't have to deal with that shit anymore, beat her after like 4 tries

Beat clockwork dancers and now I don't know what to do. Don't have the ring thing or a double jump.

>>719934648
Yeah, two more messages then it loops back