Thread 528169627

dommy mommy edition

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>How to WebM
https://obsproject.com
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
https://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam

>Previous thread
>>528081064

Time to dev.

>>528169627 (OP)
miss tachibana in the thread

Our response, Ericsisters?

I honestly only lack an action platformer/metroidvania/fighter module for my framework and I can basically make my own kof game harem kensour porn parody.

Meanwhile, Doom/Quake chads at /vr/ can write an entire Phd thesis about the nuances of level design.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liZYXIw3k_g
watch this to get a taste about game design

>>528170129
i lack of time
>work on my game instead of working on le~JoB
>instantly get likes and praise online and people want to play it when i post it on my social media
>UM...AHEM. (banging a fork on a glass.waw). It's the boss. Where's the work? I'm losing money because of you, get to work.
>go back to work
>get tired
>too exausted to continue working on my game because im tired
fuck this
funny how every dev has 1 (one) big huge problem that prevents him from making a game

the key of making games is just being free

Just live at your grandma's house and never work. work is a meme.
just make games.
even if they dont succeed.
Just do them. eventually one game will become hit. even if it will take 10-20 years
(Creator of Freddy Crueger created him in his 40s. before that he was making shitty movies nobody cared about - many such cases!)

>>528170465
What happens if you're past 35?

do people prefer a game with a definite ending, or one where you just play until youre bored?

>>528170643
you die

>>528170465
> A corporate shill teaching about risk management

>>528170465
>>528170643
all people im being inspired by, made their big hit only after 40-50.
artist life never stops.

Even more. Some of stuff that inspired many people and became cult classic, was considered a fail/flop when they made it after hard work. But they managed to become famous later because they never gave up

Being an artist is not for pussies.

>>528170681
Definite ending. Because then the designer have to actually put in the work and bring out the best ideas from his vision. Instead of writing a procedure without any thought.

>>528170643
generally on average the greatest artists start to make it after 35, if they started when they were 10-15.

>>528170742
it's the guy who made Limbo and Inside

>>528170827
>made their big hit only after 40-50.
Yeah but when did they start?

>>528171084
at the same time as me/other anons here - in their 20s. after they finished student years

>>528171178
I'M THIRTY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3438850/Sledding_Game/
150k wishlists
I told you assholes to make a "Webfishing Game except with a different thematic" but nooo you were all "webfishing exists so no point in making another one". Well I hope you all die poor.

you started with gamedev because you were a degenerate gooner who watches animes and plays video games all day, not because you were a boomer. so stop pretending that a boomer mindset will turn you into a yesdev.

stop trying to fucking find patterns for success, the market is fucking retarded and shit just happens

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW1m_qzi4EM
>Your new Nanite slop, sir

>>528171461
i try to find a patter for what type of game is enjoyable making, cause i want to enjoy the process. that seems even harder.

>>528171378
>boomer mindset
The mindset of having the easiest life in recorded history and still whining about how hard you had it.

>This makes the video game industry cry and puke and throw up
Why aren't you making UGC for Roblox or Fortnite, anon?

>>528171987
this dogshit keeps showing up when i search things, its basically a casino for children

> muh too late
> muh too old
> muh should have start earlier
> muh creativity
Shut the fuck up and listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjqNSHT26gI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPtlB_G3Heg
Does your game let you be COOL?

>>528171340
R u the guy that latches onto every fotm? Like y not make it yourself

>>528171987
Because they are Proprietary Software.

>>528172231
Blow isn't succesful tho

can someone point me to some good resources or tools to make textures? And any tips to make good ones? Im looking for software, tools or whatever to make textures. pref low res, or ones that would basically fit Morrowind.

>>528172417
> If you don't wanna do something, you can think of reasons all day of why it won't work.

tightening up grab physics

>>528172418
bruh my gf can draw and first time she opened krita she was painting something cool. there are no "tools", what you need is skill

Working on a pseudo-RTS within a strategy board game shell. You move assets between points on a map, "zoom" into points to build bases, and watch battles occur over them using crude NPC logic. I just habitually went with the GBA-inspired sprites for an older build, but would it be better if I force myself to learn Blender and go for a 90s RTS look? Any other style suggestions?

>>528172418
Pixar released a huge collection way back in the 90s. Start with that.

>>528172418
https://web.archive.org/web/20120930080255/http://cgtextures.com/content.php?action=tutorials

also redoing the system for the physics animation for enemies its much better now.

>>528172418
look up pixiv sensei tutorials on how to paint anime illustrations, they cover stuff like rocks and trees.

What you want is just anime painting fundamentals.

As for tools, you can use blender and then UV to paint using Krita.

As for a practical tip, besides learning 2D painting fundies and color theory, you should like understand the diference between a soft brush (used for gradients, blending, transitions, soft shadows, ambient oclussion) and a hard brush (used for things like drawing, lines, human lines, cracks, scratches, hard shadows) and then learning to use special brushes like the ones used for folliage and dirt and use masks for things like grudge rust stencils and other things like mud patterns.

Besides that is just most of the time having good reference to copy.

>>528171281
Its over

>>528172642
> GBA or 90s RTS look
No matter what you choose, keep the internal resolution small. For example, your sprites look dull because they are very large compared to the actual details. So either add more details or reduce the resolution of your sprites.

For 90s RTS look, Factorio developers have a blog where they talk about how they did it.

I hate my project.

>>528172929
>pixiv sensei, i'm not interested in anime drawing or style sorry. I don't even watch anime. But thanks for the other tips and advice.

>>528173196
I hate that this world necessitates struggle.

>it's only August the 20th
>it's getting super hot
i don't think i will be able to dev this summer

Fun With Pencil is all you need.

>>528173371
Sorry didn't mean to greentext

I love my project.

>>528173402
>its already august
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I CANT MAKE IT

>>528173613
oh sorry wrong tab timeline ignore my post until the next 2 months

I fucking suck at this.

>>528173371
most of the fundamentals between anime, impressionism and realism are the same.

>>528173952
maybe give it an outline?

>>528172574
Nice

>>528173952
sovl......

what's a real life job I can turn into a cozy/spooky game...

>>528173952
bigger ears

>>528173952
well, at least you can only get better

>>528173952
What's the problem? Looks like a neat early draft to me? All you need to do now is work on the details.
Remember, do not throw this away. Just iterate on it and finish it.

>>528174378
Gynecologist.
Haunted abortion pussy

Okay, time to work.

>>528174378
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvrjWlDgE4Y

>>528173417
The guy on the cover freaks me out, hard pass

>>528175331
>>528172231
> If you don't wanna do something, you can think of reasons all day of why it won't work.

>>528175114
uh oh

>>528174136
Any good guides on that? I'm trying out what sticks here and haven't seen many tutorials on pixel 2d art except for one about shading.

>>528174361
Lol I wish...

>>528174425
Yeah I was gonna do that but then I realized I'll need to redraw the hair and ughhh, I need to stop being so lazy...

>>528174470
Y-yeah right...

>>528174747
Idk it doesn't look THAT good I guess I don't know what I was expecting honestly.
But yes I WILL finish it thank you anon!

>>528175184
ToK 2 looks rad!

Around 100 games release on Steam alone EACH DAY.
About 700 games in the week around your release.
AAA release? Successful release AAA or indie, in your genre? BOOM you are done.
Also, not only are you competing with other new releases, but the entire backlog of games on every system a player owns. :)

Take all the "indie success stories" you can think of in the past 10 years and divide it by the number of devs in that time who have tried (again, 100 games a day, 3000 a month) and there's your historical likelihood of "making it."

Steam cut, higher self-employment taxes, no benefits, no retirement, AND to top it all off: Your sales diminish over time, so even if you hit this "mediocrity lottery" you'll have to do it all over again in a couple years.

>He thinks that indie gamedev can provide a sustainable primary income in 2025
Hahahahaha

H O B B Y
O
B
B
Y

I deserve more fans, what the fuck is wrong with people?

>>528172231
>also don't be too optimistic
>honestly assess your own abilities and ability to learn
so you need to actually have skills or be a good learner, filtering the majority of agdg

>>528175719
>>528172231
> If you don't wanna do something, you can think of reasons all day of why it won't work.

>>528175719
ffs remove the line about self-employment taxes
if i become a multi quadrillionaire i will pay the self employment taxes

>>528175114
too high

>>528175979
>so you need to actually have skills or be a good learner, filtering the majority of agdg
I am pretty sure that also comes under:
> If you don't wanna do something, you can think of reasons all day of why it won't work.

>>528176037
Anon you will be lucky to become a hundredaire.
The reach goal for you is being on par with working fast food, except that if you make that lofty goal, you will be taxed higher and have no benefits compared to someone who flips burgers.

I was told that I can do whatever I want
it's not fucking fair

>>528164456
>>528164841
What are you guys’ thoughts on the Hypercoven design

Noctulian aggy appeal

>>528176586
>I was told that I can do whatever I want
Whoever told you that is a dirty liar.

Honestly, right now my framework has.

>Beatem up 2D
>Simple roguelike
>Mario party mode
>Cutscene
>Fighting game input buffer
>VN
>2.5D jrpg
>Card game
>2.5D dungeon
>Hentai CGI gallery
>Risk World map

What I need is to add a turn based 2D fighter mode, an FFIV combat mode, an action platformer mode, a MOBA mode, an RTS mode.

>>528176113
You want me to remove edges?

I am getting fed up with working on this same problem.

I want to work on cool features.

>>528176689
saved for cute reference

>>528176895
no i'm just memeing do your loli however you want

>>528176689
Fixed the .webm after realizing it was slow for some damn reason

>>528173952
The trick for getting Dragon Ball design right is noticing how small the mouth and nose are. On your pixel art the mouth is way too big.
Also, the ears are HUGE.

>>528173952
Chin simply too small

>>528177151
Oh, ok.

>>528176350
what are the odds ill become a $27 aire? Asking for a friend.

I know this is a stupid consideration, because I barely have a game at all, but I do wonder: Perhaps I should go apeshit with my theming and say fuck all to optics and appeal. Definitely a bad idea.
Example of my passionate ideas:
>gryphon chests and their shape
>no human women in my game at all
>demonstration (as could be done in a novel) of my religion (which no one else knows about or follows)
>roleplaying with my players
>commissioning fetish art of my characters (haven't made any characters yet)
>presenting my face on camera to do cringe skits and music videos to my barely-listenable tunes (haven't made any tunes yet)
I haven't made any characters or tunes yet because I don't know the context in which they would fit. I'd like to say Fuck It and lose myself. But if I did, I'd wake up tomorrow and be horrified.

>>528177868
Taking in to account the $100 fee or not?

>>528173952
left: my face
right: my soul

>>528177868
My game (Wagie Run)'s progress for this past 2 weeks:
>import and delete free assets because my stupid ass cant decide for the art direction on this game
>finally set one art direction
>import the assets i need, and delete the things i don't need
That's it. 2 weeks, just re-importing and re-deleting assets. Anyway, the art direction for my Pepsi-Man-like game is "PS2 low res-ish stylized" realism. For reference, see Grand Turismo 3, it will look like that, i hope.

>Why?
The only 3D assets that are not cartoony, low poly, and free, are like that. And beside, everyone making PS1 graphic look alike games, why can't i make PS2-like one?

I feel like I owe this community an apology. You kinda deserve whatever happens to you if you use this pedo website but regardless I'm sorry for pushing my coomer faggotry last year and earlier this year, I really lost the plot.

Anyways Branno is a faggot, inner circle is a bunch of libtards (osur and matra are okay though) and KKD and Shobatsu are the only games I ever genuinely cared about from here. Quit posting here and do something worthwhile.

>>528175719
This isn't really the right way to go about it. First of all this doesn't account for AIslop and porn games and any game that's clearly not made for at least minor success. Second if you're getting into gamedev and want to make it big then you better be prepared to spend at least a few years on it, effectively specializing on it which is much easier if you've got a passion for gamedev not just making your own game.

>>528176689
TuT

>>528178815
>Quit posting here and do something worthwhile.
I need energy and I know of no other place.

>>528175719
I'll do it
You'll see

>>528178815
damn thats crazy

>>528178815
You can always post on 8 chin aggy. Its a lot LOT slower, but the posts there are legit progress reports and discussions

>>528179342
I'm too scared to even visit that site. Too spooky.

>>528179469
A wise decision.

>>528172418
Adobe Substance Designer is the best-in-class tool for texture making
it is a procedural nondestructive node-based material creator
>procedural
you don't have to handpaint anything. you can but you don't have to.
>nondestructive node-based
you can make many different looking textures from very similar finished graphs just by tweaking a few colors and numbers
>material creator
It is designed for making seamless textures. you have to try hard to NOT make a seamless texture with it.
you can make not just the color, but also the height, normal map, ambient occlusion, metallic, or even custom maps all within the same file based off the same data.

>>528179625
Really? It's that sppoky?

>>528179395
me on the left

>>528179469
The aggy thread there is safe, i can assure you that. Most of the /pol/ agents on that place are either dead, in prison, or moved on because we achieved our goals of:
>faggots and kikes got layoffed from film and game industries
>normalfags political fatigue

Its over. So you can rest easy

>>528178815
There's always dvach
but last time an anon ventured there.. something followed him back

>>528176671
Extreme lack of polish both in terms of art and the sound. The game completely falls flat to deliver it's essence. UI elements are supposed to guide your attention to important information. Some stuff just straight up blend with everything else.

was frustrated because my code wasn't working and my cat meowed at me and i almost yelled at him.

>>528179395
built for Big Brown Kong

>>528178815
BASED

BASED

BASED

>based
BASED

>>528178815
I still wonder what was going through your head when you made those gay ass drawings

>>528179763
Thanks, do you know any free tools to use in the mean time? I am still a complete beginner with coding, and game development in general.

>>528180553
> i almost yelled at him
shame on you

>>528180473
Yeah I meant the design, as in, the RTS game design. Since that was the topic of the discussion. I’m aware the UI and graphics are trash, but I can get that opinion from anyone including people who never even played an RTS.

>>528178815
Who the hell is matra? That name sounds so familiar but I can't place which dev exactly that was

>>528180661
Not much

>>528180912
oh whatever, it was PATdev's twitter name

>>528180684
theres an unlimited duration free trial available on the high seas man
idk i struggled with free tools for soo long in this domain they all suck dick

>>528180816
NTA, but as an RTS enjoyer, I would never waste time on Hypercoven. It looks like a meme flash game. What even is the gameplay? Just arbitrary campaigns?

>>528180661
arisu my beautiful and cute personal assistant

>>528181170
I'm on linux bruv.... Ill just buy it on steam

>>528180684
if you want FOSS texturing tools, look up armor paint, blender, material maker and Krita.

>>528181880
>Bruv
sorry i mean to say bruh. The britbong in me came out.

AGDG Steam Curator updated even if you shadow drop your game (why?)

https://store.steampowered.com/curator/39041835-Amateur-Game-Dev-General/

>>528180816
> Yeah I meant the design
The idea itself is really neat (not a fan of auto-unit generation but that's a personal preference) but at the current state it's impossible to judge if its actually good or not. I don't think you should look for what "others" think about the design at this stage. You as the designer can see the essence in your head, but you can't except the same from the players. UI really effects how players feel about your game, and it's near impossible to ignore it and give feedback.

>>528180909
don't you mean scaliefag?

Progress time!
Finally implemented save/load game. Boy, was this a fucking pain in the ass, and I fully expected it to be but it still got me by surprise.
Did you know that if you duplicate a custom Resource in Godot, the duplicated resource does not have a resource_path? Neither did I!
Anyway, with save/load implemented it suddenly feels like a game. Now's time to add more content.

>>528182051
Thank you, noted these down.

>>528182478
neat

>>528179395
>nintendojaks

>>528178815
who the fuck gave monkeydev coomer's remorse?

>>528182662
This line:
> If you don't wanna do something, you can think of reasons all day of why it won't work.

>>528182593
I've posted a bunch of screenshots of the forest and two barns, Godot is very nice.

>>528182887
reduce the resolution of the grass clumps

Any goblin lovers?

>>528182887
SOVL

>>528178815
the big mainstream websites that normies use are owned by soulless monsters and twitter was already evil before elon
why do people still do this "4chan the evil hacker" shit when facebook has stories of employees with ptsd over the amount of gore posted on the site?

>>528178815
I always felt that the coomer thing wasn't you.

>>528183012
erm theyre called "ghalbeens"

>>528183012
no

>>528181510
It has battles in roughly Sc1-style, but the macro is different. You don’t pick a race, instead you capture points on the map (similar to CoH) and those will produce units for you. Every capture point makes two unique units, and can also be extended with structures. It’s like a little base/faction of its own. Capturing is done by the King and if the King dies, you lose.
>Just arbitrary campaigns?
There are randomized modes, e.g. survival, as well as a fixed campaign with some kind of story (wip)

>>528182461
Well, thanks anyhow. By UI you mean the HUD in game, yes? I can surely improve that, it’s good to hear somebody cares.

>>528182478
>AI shart

>>528183305
Are you sure?

>>528183012
memerot brainrot zoomerrot retardrot

>>528182054
oi bruv this website uses biscuits innit

anyway
i've been collecting bocchi images for a while now (to train AI on) and i've been noticing something. there's a lot of memes that just don't make sense. i actually don't believe that knowing the context having seen the anime would make them make sense. They're just completely lolrandom. they're just inserting goto into random scenarios, often straight up replacing the original character with goto and not modifying the joke whatsoever
im starting to think that bocchi is some kinda meaningless brainrot, and that goto has no personality or identifiable traits that would facilitate creation of humorous content. It's almost like they WANT to reference bocchi, but there's NOTHING to reference, so the end result is just "look it's an image of goto and she's uhhh basically not doing anything at all"

compare that to a popular character with a personality, like Harry from Disco Elysium and other characters. Every meme is entirely founded upon the premise and tone of the game. It's a game about a cop schizo, so there's cop things and schizo things. The memes will parody the relationships that the protagonist has with Kim, and other characters. They will parody the way the voices in his head talk to each other. They will reflect the tone and unique writing of the game. They will mimic the artstyle. Does Bocchi have an artstyle? no it doesn't. bocchi is not a "popular media has memes made about it". It's a weird obsession.
i don't like autists. they can be captivating but only if they're smart savant types. This nigga just spams his waifu with vague somewhat-gamedevvy-but-meaningless messages like "i'm making engine progress!" and then the faggy cheerful "sister" yapping that all animefags do.

but it's okay
when my AI model is complete, i will never have to think about this again. aggy will be saved byh me

>>528183651
but seriously, does anything of note happen in this anime? Why is every meme just "I'm a weirdo crackhead cannibal autismo and I have anxiety" random shit attached to an image of the most generic anime girl in a normal slice-of-life environment? I get that the contrast is the joke but like... there is nothing. It is empty

>>528183651
>>528183865
zizekposting

you need a high iq to understand bocchiposting

Honestly having a real trailer and steam page has to put you in the top 5% on steam.
No, 5 minutes of gameplay at 20 FPS doesn't count as a real trailer.

>>528183865
this shit is so offensively unfunny and devoid of substance that it can't even wrap back around into being funny-because-its-stupid
It feels like AI made - not the random crazy AI, but specifically a modern, safeguarded, low-temperature, boring AI. or an old man who's out of touch with internet youth. Look, it's a generic anime girl template, with random popular meme keywords inserted into it, that contrast with the cheerful and inoffensive nature of a slice-of-life anime! What if Bocchi also had a GUN?! that's so funny hahahaha... It just makes me sigh deeply, not even crack a smile. You have to have a completely tasteless rotting brain to enjoy and create this. Imagine what kinda game this guy is making rn

does monkeydev hate nortubel now too?
guy wrote a newgrounds post on his birthday about wanting to kill his family and it got tom fulp's attention

a game about being a baby turtle

>>528183651
Bocchi is just a very likable character. She's cringe, but not so cringe as to be a turn-off like her predecessor Tomoko was, allowing her to achieve mass appeal. She also has a very simple, but recognizable character design that can be slotted into many different situations, just like Hatsune Miku and Hakurei Reimu, making her a prime reference for aspiring artists to practice character illustration with.

>>528178815
>libtards
are you suggesting there's woke devs in that group?
>>528183651
>and i've been noticing something. there's a lot of memes that just don't make sense.
memes were always a cancer and proof people are npc's

Why engage when you can just report off-topic content and post some progress, or respond to someone else's progress.

Today's the solstice, the official start of summer/winter. Everybody excited about a summer/winter of dev? Going to finish your game before the end of summer/winter?

who is the next /agdg/ dev to suffer from coomer's remorse?

I'm noticing more games have similar aesthetics to mine while there were none before I posted my game.
>TAKE YOUR MEDS
You mean chloroform so you can knock me out and steal even more of my fucking game?

a reminder that shitting on "the inner circle" is pussy shit and if you have balls, just namedrop every dev as much as possible

>>528185257
notice he tried to explain why Bocchi is popular (i.e. why the one guy in the thread is obsessed with her) but failed to name any traits that she has.
I will help you: from the images collected I have deduced that she wants to perform in a rock band, but has advanced stage fright and other relatable insecurities. Why is this never used for humor in memes? What is the joke in "popular unrelated meme but person is photoshopically replaced with Bocchi"?

>character design that can be slotted into many different situations
you don't create jokes by slotting a character into a situation that doesn't make sense. There has to be some connection, some humorous punchline, some shared cultural reference. What the fuck is happening in picrel? Nothing. It's just a funny meme photo that replaces a character with Bocchi. for. no. reason.
Is she an alien that morphs other people into Bocchis, agent Smith from Matrix style?
or are you an alien and this is how you see homo sapiens comedy?

>>528185561
Because
1. Even if you report it none of it gets deleted
2. If you call out the off-topic spammer you get dogpiled by their trooncord friends
3. If you post progress nobody replies to it
4. Nobody else posts progress and if they do it's just some rando whodev who left the thread after posting

>>528180661
Depression and porn addiction
>>528182662
The touch of a woman
>>528184852
I always thought he was hilarious and kinda admire how unabashedly himself he was. But his game is straight dogshit. That post was super funny though
>>528185307
Based GasGod once said that Asian bug women are all crazy (this is true) and one of the devs in the ToK server started moralfagging. Also pretty sure there were a tranny or two in that group

Anyways going back into my cave, hope I never visit here ever again.

>>528185561
it's a one-off yapathon. my plan is to develop a sophisticated userscript with machine learning integration that will help me to not engage (by filtering all off-topic content away from my eyes)

>>528185680
Coomer's Remorse?

Last thread someone asked what % of steam games have more than 1000 wishlists prior to launch so I did some digging. Turns out 70% of all steam games scheduled for 2025 release have 1k or more wishlists. Insane

I guess this is why the advice is to get 10-15k wishlists before launch, it's the only way to be in the top 10% of games.

1. The real reason is that the autist thought that the name Goto is a reference to the keyword goto from the C programming language, and thought this was justification enough to promote her to be the mascot of the thread.

2. The other copycat anons are shitposting to feel like they belong to "gamedev" and procrastinate doing actual work. They also don't know reason 1 and think her actual name is "Bocchi".

3. The jannies are old normie men hired by Hiro and think anime is "board culture", so if anime girl is present it can never be off-topic. This explains why Bocchispam is never deleted but other avatarfags are (like fygon)

Mystery solved, now we can get to work.

>>528178815
>inner circle is a bunch of libtards
yep, if you aren't a tranny communist faggot they will blacklist you and communicate the blacklist out to everyone they know. Pretty funny and petty desu

>>528186840
Name a single dev who was blacklisted

>>528185831
First off anon, you are severely autistic. That's fine, but recognize that your sensibilities do not match up with the common populace.

There is a common fan headcanon where bocchi is a futa with a massive cock. The illustration you posted is by Khyle, who is well known for sus memes: https://twitter.com/khyleri/media

This website is 4chan, which has fostered a reaction image culture since its inception. Because Bocchi has a tendency to make a lot of funny faces and there are many different artists on the internet creating fanart of Bocchi, Bocchi naturally becomes a prime character to use for common generic reactions, similar to cats and frogs.

>>528186937
fygoon

>>528185884
>I always thought he was hilarious and kinda admire how unabashedly himself he was. But his game is straight dogshit. That post was super funny though
look at what i found lol
devs do pretend to like each others games

>>528186937
every single dev who isnt a tranny communist faggot?

gamedev...

>>528182478
The landscapes look very nice
>>528183012
For me it's ogre cock

>>528185884
>porn addiction
let me guess: you saw all those zoomers being neurotic over anime fanservice and became like them
lot of great artists were pervs that even told critics to fuck off
sounds more like you gave in to a bunch of whiny losers except you're not even notorious enough to form an angry mob
why bother when this angry crowd never forgives even over the least worst shit?

>>528183865
>>528183651
>so autistic he can't understand people having fun posting silly images with no context to make people laugh, which is done across the entire internet
That point aside the anime is above most slop out right now because it deals with actual real issues like the loneliness epidemic, people retreating into the internet, not being themselves and connecting with others, finding freedom through art
Bocchi has a relatable plight, just replace playing guitar in a band with coding/doing art with a small indie team

>>528186991
>you are severely autistic
well uhhhh not that you care buuuuhhtt... dk... i've done many tests before and every single time scored very very low on autism, aspergers, and so on. I'm sociable and communicate fine with people, new people, not a lot of awkwardness. Also is it really fair for you to refer to 4chan users as "common populace"? Common populace is people who don't watch anime or use memes, or anything. Normies. 4chan users are the autistic ones. So if there's any conflict of sensibilities between me and 4chan users, surely i would not be the one on the autistic side.
>There is a common fan headcanon where bocchi is a futa with a massive cock
so what you're saying is that you confirm that this has no relation to the contents of the anime (all that stuff about doing music and having stage fright) and just lolrandom made up shit, so i was right?
>Because Bocchi has a tendency to make a lot of funny faces
that's fine, but that doesn't explain inserting her into various situations that do not create a meaningful humorous scenario, and instead just tell me of some kinda weirdo NPC who cannot parse or enjoy content unless his favorite reconigzable pink blob is there.
Same with Miku, by the way. always hated how she randomly overtook LLM-related generals on /g/ instead of the llama mascot. she has nothing whatsoever to do with AI or LLMs. it's just "woah anime girl!" *starts drooling* effect. You guys are just faggots

keep in mind. i would not be half as annoyed if bocchi was kept to /bg/ - Bocchi General on /a/. you brought it here to thread of gamedev. you made it my problem

tl;dr why are we posting bocchis now?

I don't feel original

>>528187932
>bocchi has a relatable plight
and how would i find out about that plight from you posting picrelated
>the loneliness epidemic, people retreating into the internet
people retreating into the internet to harass random niggas with their dogshit anime avatarfagging
don't make your loneliness epidemic my problem
i just want to talk about gamedev

>>528188307
>now

I'll "avatarfag" as sailor moon characters how would you feel about that fygoon

>>528188049
It is not unique to bocchi. It is extremely common for artists to insert popular characters into various situations. That is one of the number one recommended way for artists to do studies and git gud at illustration. If you go to the twitter of any popular artist and look at their oldest works, you will find at least a few Reimus or Mikus.

Are you new to the internet?

>>528188375
Well more than average

>>528188397
you keep making it a "bocchi vs fygoon" thing as if you're not one and the same
>>528188468
>It is not unique to bocchi
i never claimed it was a unique bocchi phenomenon. im just saying it's slop, and it's not funny or cute or gamedev-related. In a lot of words.

>>528188307
only miss tachibana is gaming related

>>528188614
It's a reaction image, same as a cat or a frog, and has been a part of 4chan culture since inception.

>>528188752
idk i've been here a while and it's not often that what you claim to be a mere reaction image is obsessively promoted to be a mascot of the thread.
The OP post should be game progress or at least a gamedev meme like idk starring Jon Blow fighting Eric Barone or some shit.
i think that guy is too obsessed for it to be just a "reaction image".

I work so hard for so little reward.

>>528169627 (OP)
lmao weg ass booba

>>528189202
same

>>528189202
And you have to do it again tomorrow. And the day after. And again and again. Can you see the day when you'll be finally finished and your efforts rewarded?

Forgive me for my obsession with bocchi I just cant stop samefagging as 10 people...

>>528189202
>>528189328
You do realize that you're just doing it to yourself, right? You already know there's no reward, so could just choose to stop working.

>>528189067
The OP would also end up being a frog or a cat if autistic spergs like you started crying in every thread about how there are too many frogs or cats posted here.

>>528187032
I'm calling larp (or another mental breakdown) for this reason. His first post's picrel has the Unix timestamp name of a repost even though he should be the original source. He was never this hostile

>>528189558
I have to finish this flop

>>528189202
>>528189328
>>528189526
>>528189558
> If you don't wanna do something, you can think of reasons all day of why it won't work.

>>528188363
posting bocchi here isn't about bringing the themes of the show here, I was just responding to
>does anything of note happen in this anime
This has been said a thousand times but all kinds of anime get posted as reaction images on this website. On any board/thread. Can be for whatever reason. Bocchi just happened to catch on here

>>528189558
There's a reward, valve's just holding it above my head just out of reach to mess with me.

>>528189654
>just happened
uhuh

>>528189638
But I am doing it. Its just not good enough

>>528189202
ok Jon

>>528189731
do you think there's some kind of conspiracy or something? to post a pink haired anime girl on a gamedev general on 4chan? to turn everyone here transgender maybe?

>>528189914
no, when did i say any of that?

>>528178815
I don't have anyone else to post progress to except you guys

>>528189872
is that pink hair?!?!?

>>528190052
you seemed to imply it didn't just catch on as a trend here and that's all it is

>>528189757
> But I am doing it. Its just not good enough
Just keep chipping at it, until it's good enough. We have been doing it for centuries.

I don't want too much success or I might be harassed.

>>528189872
there's something about loli/loliesque characters that just piss me off every time I see them
their anatomy is so deformed they're not even human

I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make it for dd63

>>528190121
yeah, bocchi

>>528188689
34kg ToT

If you cannot understand the bocchi phenomenon you most likely will never make a hit game

I want the reformed 4channer turned vidya essay breadtuber audience and I want them NOW

how do i get good at character design

>>528190898
bocchi is just gen-z k-on which is just gen-y beck

Bocchi is the embodiment of the anxious creative

Hitori Gotou (Bocchi) is a painfully shy girl who desperately wants to connect with others through her passion (in her case, guitar; for devs, it's games). She:
>Creates alone in her room
>Struggles with sharing her work
>Has big dreams but is held back by anxiety
This is extremely relatable to solo devs, many of whom are introverted, self-critical, and working in isolation.

>>528190931
I want the reformed 4channer turned spiritual schizo audience which is me its the voice in my head.

>trailer is too long for showcase
In a way, Game Development is a series of jumping from one hot pan to another until you're fried.

>>528190898
Good. I want a cult classic instead. Less attention.

>>528190338
yeah it didn't. It's not a trend. it's an obsession of one guy. Maybe two guys, Marmo and one noname nodev. not more

>>528191226
where's the part about being horny 24/7?

>>528191685
That's just marmo if he real.

>>528191094
Fun with Pencil, and steal ideas from others. Literally 99% of characters are made this way.

>>528191094
for starters never look at this image again

>>528191894
Then I will become the 1%.

>>528191573
You are objectively wrong

I should have been paying attention to other games on steam, apparently I put too much effort into my game or something.

why people say ONE HUNDRED GAMES COME OUT ON STEAM EVERY DAY.
When actually majority of them are SEAmonkey/Indian asset flip that can't be considered real game?

I like to pace in my room imagining I'm being interviewed. I just spend the past hour -- no, probably 2 hours -- listening to the jeff vogel interview by thomas brush, and imagining how I would reply to the questions, and how I would reply to questions specific to my game. What an inspiration builder. And a time waster. And an overall waste of time.

>>528191957
why?

>>528192494
Because:
> If you don't wanna do something, you can think of reasons all day of why it won't work.

>>528192494
>people
It's literally one subhuman: >>528124107

>>528192494
1 decent game comes out per month
0 great games come out per year now

When I think of bocchi, I think of bocelli. I love that mainstream blind singer.
Connnnnn te~ par te ro~~
Soo navey per marey
T'che uy'olo so~

>>528192602
Vogel's new game looks really comfy though.

godot is unable to refactor code
then again, unity has no built-in code editor
so can't fault 'em too much

>>528192998
What do you mean by "godot is unable to refactor code"?

How do I properly advertise H games? I feel like its a massive uphill battle. I've never done this before. Can anybody who actively buys these kinds of games give me some actual advise please?

>>528193218
> plebbit
r/lewdgames
r/nsfwgames
r/"fetish of your game or scenarios"
>xitter
Follow porn artists, they will happily retweet your game if the art entices them

That's it.

>>528192494
it's a real problem because it discourages people from searching for new titles on their own and encourages them to rely on automated sorting algorithms. Those automated sorted algorithms in turn will only point people to things that are already popular and classify your game as the same level as the asset flips you are callously dismissing. Despite looking down on them, the truth is that by all objective standards, your game is no better than them.

>>528193112
you cannot "refactor rename" a variable or function name like in most editors
rather, you must use the replace string function
this is not ideal for obvious reasons

>>528191226
>anxious
can't relate.
yesdevs choose Kaiji

>all of his interpolation is linear
>all of his randomness is uniform
>he thinks typewriter text is "kino"
>he uses "..." in dialogue

>>528193636
ah, I just use query-replace in emacs lmao, and let the type-checker handle the files.

>>528192308
No he is right I am a noname nodev posting bocchis 24/7 and sometimes impersonating marmo(he is completely innocent and not a gooner)

>>528193636
absolute state

when i think of bocchi, i think of rape

>>528193805
Do you use emacs for Godot development?
I haven't gone outside the built-in editor yet, I'm just learning.

I am a linux lad 4 lyfe but no editor comes close to VS Code. A properly riced vim is second, but only pays off if you're constantly learning and even practicing nice shit that you'll use once every 3 months so you can use it without spending even more time looking up docs. This is many years of active dedication, and also must come with a properly riced shell and so on.
Good option for those inclined, but 2nd to VS Code, easily.

>>528193518
Appreciate it, thank you

>>528193620
that's were advertisement comes in. Not the "spent money to put adds everywhere and paying streamers" but "beg on 4chan, reddit and gamejams for people to try it out"

70% of steam games have over 1000 wishlists pre-release and you're laughing?

what language/framework/engine should i use to make a free cities clone
i dont think ill use twine since its kind of a hack job to use an interactive fiction framework for a simulation game
im leaning towards something with a dynamic, interpreted language and runs on the web -- so maybe just javascript + a framework?

>>528193976
Yeah, I always edit (and compile if the engine/IDE allows it) inside Emacs and execute/debug on engine/IDEs. This gives me the ability to jump to errors with a keystroke, fix it, jump to next error. This makes refactoring really trivial.

>>528186629
There's no way. The majority of steam games are slop no one wants, they're not getting 1k wishlists

I've been programming for 20+ years, and if a text editor takes longer than one second to boot up, I'm not using it.

>>528194324
source on that number?

>>528192831
what about Faustino Bocchi

You made sure to purge your gooner past off the net before making game, right?

>>528183865
found the normie. ahhh why don't I get it uhhh. Go watch capeshit, normie

>>528194506
Just start making it.
>>528194651
I program on windows, so CLI based workflow is out of question. Vanilla emacs has everything I need, and no it doesn't take more than 1 second to load.
All I need is my trusty init file: https://pastebin.com/9EHwMrNt

>>528194324
it's more like 0.7%

>>528195332
>Just start making it.
i want to be informed and know if anyone has any useful resources for a game such a free cities (simulation, UI heavy)

>>528195013
Who gives a shit what some asshole on twitter says.

>>528194263
>beg on 4chan, reddit and gamejams for people to try it out
Enjoy getting banned for advertising

>>528195551
Just use whatever Free Cities is using.

>>528178092
Someone address my insanity.

>>528195572
4chan cares

>>528194651
for many years I was strictly vim with a bunch of plugins, it isn't bad at all especially with good shell shit, I liked oh-my-zsh a lot.
VS Code just has so much good shit right out of the box while staying lean enough. It's the one MS thing I use. If I were younger I'd feel shame, but now I feel nothing. It's a fine tool, so is vim.

>>528195681
>twine
free cities uses an interactive fiction framework, which is a pretty weird choice and you can see where some parts break down (e.g. everything being crammed into 'passages' and iffy data structures)

>>528192494
It's insane how badly agdg lacks selfawareness. Your game IS the asset flip shovelware polluting Steam. You all need to stop.

>>528178092
Why not? Video games are art, you never know what might catch on, picrel related.

I get major cognitive dissonance when I see my game. I see a game that should have 20 thousand wishlists, but it doesn't have that. How am I supposed to take anything seriously when the laws of reality don't? Fucking hell.

>>528195952
>Your game IS the asset flip shovelware polluting Steam
name one from list of agdg games

>>528196042
> If you don't wanna do something, you can think of reasons all day of why it won't work.
Put this on your wall.

>>528196138
Marmoreal

is your game POSIX compliant?

Progress: you can view your inventory in the journal and toss items if you want.

>>528193781
real life amogus

>>528195889
>twine
Go with html/css/javascript it's basically the same thing but you actually have all the freedom.

>>528196282
Probably not.

>>528196271
>38 reviews
>all positive
so the worst game made by agdg is already better than 99% of Pajeet assetflips

>>528196292
SOVL

>>528193845
>>528191573
There are 3 or 4 bocchi posters. The person posting goonerbait started doing it recently. He's probably not even a real bocchi sis and false flagging to annoy people.

>>528194651
Zim doesn't

having 5 screenshots that aren't just the dev pressing print screen 5 times in a row and calling it a day put you in the top 25% of steam automatically

>>528196364
yea but within that ecosystem, im looking for extra bits of help (does anyone actually raw dog js/html/css these days?)
maybe React since its basically entirely UI

>>528196549
Sorry to hear that, I'll buff it out over time.

>>528195965
A large problem is that I'm making an MMORPG and players will flip if they can't play as a woman. I can't even play the "anti-woke" card, only the incel card.
And players will flip if they're caught playing an "incel game". My game can't smell, because its success requires [niche] appeal. How niche can I go?

>doing some field research
>see new game on steam, bennet foddy clone
>like all of them the character is bald
Indie games are an untapped well of unimaginable creativity hence when every game in this genre has the same character just because one game did it.

lmao imagine being one of the niggas that launched their game today, get furfagged bozo

>>528197684
Is this how dlc on steam works?
Each one gets its own spot?

I also just realized I could spend $1,000 to do this on purpose and crab a dev I don't like

>>528197425
Originality is inconducive to clear communication. A bald protagonist clearly and quickly communicates to any potential buyers or viewers browsing Twitch/YouTube thumbnails as to what type of content they can expect.

>>528197684
>bozo
What's your opinion on yuppies

>bocchi conspiracy
It's just 2 or 3 guys, you people are overthinking.
Agdg always have one set of idiots spamming something for months until
>1. the spam becomes so obvious that the jannies catch on and start regularly banning them
>2. they meet another schizo constantly spamming slurs back at them who starts to stalk them and their games or falseflag
>3. they just permanently leave the thread
>4. some new anime or game popularity catches on so they start spamming that instead

Which then makes them start to spam something else. I suspect that they're slowly moving to Arisu spam because of 1. and 2.

Metroid.

>bocchi conspiracy
How deep it even goes?

WTF Belgium is a shithole! No wonder Marnix gtfo'd
>make racist meme
>5 year prison sentence
Who would even want to be a gamedev there? They'd probably arrest you for making any game that doesn't align with woke ideology. I could see them arresting Marnix for being one of the dev's of My Virtual Friend
>this big tiddy anime waifu of yours hurts females on an emotional level, 5 years prison

>>528198119
>for months until
Reminds me that things are pretty good right now, and things won't be this good always. Things will get worse.
The other day I looked back at my old download folders and came across evidence of the old times of some other generals. Damn, they're so uninhabitable now, I don't even check them. But they were so comfy, even with the "problems" back in the day. I didn't even notice back then.
Things are comfy now; I notice.

>>528198525
OPERATION GET MARNIX ARRESTED IS A GO-GO!

Is the bocchi in the room with us right now?

>>528178815
lots of you's with no proof that you are the monkey dev.

>>528179395
why does her face kinda look like a westernized adult chibi?

I want to kiss a big fluffy creature on the nose and pet their ears and I'm not going to game dev until.

>>528182971
Any idea how to? I have some other meshes that go better with it but im not ready to show it yet.

>>528183048
Thank you! What do you like most? :)

>>528186629
>>528194564
>>528194324
>>528194685
>>528195486
I don't know what kind of research the other guy did but I did some cross-referencing between different analytics platforms. I have some solid numbers

There are 34299 total upcoming games on Steam right now
out of those 34299, only 12003 are at or above 1000 wishlists (they use estimates but let's assume the estimates are right)

This means that out of all upcoming Steam games 35% have about 1000 or more wishlists.

>>528194324
Yes because I have more than double that. That makes me double-better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1y4-ZjsRAk

New mode done.

:D

>>528199005
That sounds about right

>>528198860
And also I want to be held. All night.

Impossible in this world.

I should kms.

>>528198860
>>528199620
Lucid dreaming norglorb

>>528189202
same. so many years.....

>>528188307
exactly the kind of wife i want, what games must i make to get fangirls like this?

>>528193620
this. even steam nextfest feels like this now. just way too many

Anyone have recurring dreams of an imaginary game? For me, it's a weird haunted house I have to explore.

>>528189872
cool graphics and textures ruined by pedo loli shit.

I know everyone hates me for liking lolis but they are so cute

>>528200030
Yes, but I only ever remember one thing
the bomb card from slay the spire, but it's pink and called "bombtuncular"

>>528200297
it's okay kannadev, I forgive you

I can't wait to work on cool stuff instead of low level engine stuff

>>528199784
I don't want to work for it.

I don't want nolgorb. I'm going through the typhlosion thread on /vp/. I wish he would hold me.
Look at how big his head is. And look at his ears. And how far down his head his ears are. I would kiss his nose and pet his ears. And maybe he would lick me with his GIANT tongue. I should kms. Never in this world will will anything so great be.
I want something great to hold me. NO women.

Last I was hugged it was by a gay man in a fursuit. I cried. I haven't been touched by anyone since.
>Never in this world will will anything so great be.
Maybe a gay man in a fursuit is the closest approximation. Maybe greatness does exist in this world.

I will not game dev until.

>>528200487
I'm rotate how can you not tell from my posting style

>>528200506
You can have Godot downloaded and running in less than a minute, Unity downloaded and running in around 5 minutes, and Unreal downloaded and running in around 15 minutes.

>>528199005
Here's some additional:
- About 8278 games have 2000 or more wishlists. This is 24% of upcoming games
- About 4891 games have 5000 or more wishlists. This is 14% of upcoming games
- About 3102 games have 10000 or more wishlists. This is 9% of upcoming games.

It seems like the number of games doesn't shrink exponentially which means the competition is severe and wishlistflation is at an all time high. What a horrid age we live in.

>>528200841
Total wishlist accumulation does not matter. Wishlist velocity is a much more accurate predictor of success.

Numbers don't predict success, soul does

>>528200651
>Last I was hugged it was by a gay man in a fursuit.

>>528201159
no, luck does

>>528196647
marmo probably hates you and other "sisters" for using his avatar

I'm doing all of the disciplines.

Engine dev. Art. Music.

All of it.

>>528201159
Soul = NGMI.

>>528201418
Luck = too low-IQ to recognize patterns

>>528200841
>About 3102 games have 10000 or more wishlists. This is 9% of upcoming games.
>only 400-500 games a year get 1000 reviews or more
How over is it?

My game strikes fear into the heart and soul of all th-
Awww what the hell am I saying, my "game" doesn't strike nothing into anything.

>>528201807
Very.

No dev alert, making sprites for fun.

Would you play a game as a golden hand shaped space ship that can turn projectiles and enemies into gold? And the points that make up your score is actually your ammo? No power ups to collect, just toggle your power setting between 1 and 4 and blast away. The more powerful your shots are, the faster your ammo (score depletes). You could also grab flashing enemies and objects to throw at other enemies and cause a chain reaction that leads to shot tons of gold bouncing around to collect.

This took forty five minutes. Sprites for its different power settings, for grabbing, holding, and throwing, the last one showing it taking damage.

>>528169627 (OP)

BALLS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftEwLvZN9wk

games already exist
you don't have to make them yourself
you can just play them

I'm imagining freckle duck bunny red haired clowneverbeit right now and it is motivating me intensely.

>>528200841
Me in the top 24% and I don't think I'll get into the 14% unless some youtuber plays my game after I send it to press.

>>528201395
It was at a furcon. I could tell the story. He started talking to me then spontaneously hugged me. For a long time.... I've never been so desired. I rested my head on his. I can still smell the fake fur. Then he just left. I wish I could hold a fursuiter all night. I just want to be held.

>>528201962
I no longer derive as much pleasure from playing them

>>528201941
sounds alright, but score being your ammo seems kind of self defeating, since it effectively means infinate ammo, unless you suck at hitting things. I'd rather it be for special attacks/revives.

Here's a very good method all of you can use to immediately disregard 90% of useless feedback

Let's say that some know-it-all post you a comment somewhere telling you that you should do A B and C to 'improve' your game. Ask yourself
- is this person my follower on this platform?
- is this peroson my follower on any platform at all?
- if yes, does this person ever engage with my content in any way?
- is this person a paying customer?
- has this person in any way supported your work?

If you answered 'no' to any of this you can immediately throw it in the trash. You can use your judgement to evaluate the other 10% of situations. Cheers.

>>528182887
>>528182971
>>528183048
Any anons got any idea how to make the grass meshes look more like the other textures?

>>528202810
does this mean if no one can pay you 100% of feedback is useless?
based retard

>>528203127
If they really cared about your game they would have found a way

>>528202476
The amount it costs could be adjusted so that relative to other shmups it seems more sparse. As for special attacks and revives, that ain’t a bad idea.

>>528203191
you're right, I've mailed cris at least a dozen checks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbOZtvjvatE
too many normies and nepobabies are getting into indie dev and bringing their hustle and bustle sigma dudebro self-made millionaire get rich quick slop culture with them and it's driving me insane this used to be my escape but they've taken that too! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>528203364
Same...

>>528175719
Yeah, exactly there are hundreds of games on steam... and you could be one of them. You could be making somebodies favorite experience. You could actually gain real world experience of launching a product that WILL help you into your future even if you are not financially successful.

But here you are, nodevving and posting ragebaits instead. Remember anon, you have to open your IDE instead of just thinking about it.

>>528203364
I think M*rnix should just kill himself already

I don't think I can do this.

was all that money i made last year
for gabe newell on the moon?

>>528204405
No only 30% of it was. You get to keep 60%, isn't that nice of Gabe to give you 50% of your profits?

>>528171340
you're wasting your time trying to explain market dynamics to autistic NEET artists

>>528204508
>isn't that nice of Gabe to give you 50% of your profits?
Unironically yes. In Gabe's own time, developer royalty was about 15%.

>>528201962
>tempted to buy game
>wait I could just make a game like it instead for FREE
>but I'd have to project hop..

big progress

I buy indie games to downvote after idling for 40 hours.

>>528204979
Please start with mine so it at least gets one sale please...

>>528203530
>You could be making somebodies favorite experience. You could actually gain real world experience of launching a product that WILL help you into your future even if you are not financially successful.
This is wishful thinking. No one will like your game. Your game will be absolutely nobody's favorite experience. The only thing you will learn form the experience is that you wasted 2 years of your life you will never get back and should have gone done something productive instead.
t. has actually shipped a commercial game

>>528203364
The vast majority devs who have ever made it were normie nepobabies. If you're not a normie nepobaby, you're NGMI, and you're better off quitting before you waste any more time.

>>528205291
retard

>>528205048
Sorry, by indie I meant the ones who sell millions of copies.

>>528205552
Or don't. Keep suffering for nothing. Your pathetic life will be meaningless either way.

>>528203364
We need a hobby and community that uses an obscure dead retardedly hard language so the barrier of entry will be too high for normalniggers

>>528205572
Understandable. Kill yourself.

>>528205658
what, you want to program in latin?

>>528205291
>normie nepobabies
That's an oxymoron. Nepobabies are kids born into non-normie levels of wealth and privilege. A nepobaby cannot be a normie, and a normie cannot be a nepobaby.

nsfw artists will cancel my sfw game because my nsfw artists found my nsfw alias and now i'm exposed as a gooner and my life is pretty much over.

>>528205793
Anyone who can afford indoor plumbing is a nepobaby by agdg streetshitter standards.

It's starting to dawn on me that the game I spent 4 years on probably isn't going to do well.

>>528205917
You're at a crossroads where you need to take a long hard honest look at the game and figure out if it can be pivoted into a game that's good or if it's a lost cause that needs to be dropped.

>>528205860
read >>528201595

>I don't know what a long is
https://youtu.be/F9zYiHllEcU?t=4397

This general has fallen off so hard since the glory days of 2020/1 that it's not even funny.

>>528206278
Why should he? I don't know either. God, programmers are such obnoxious fags

the jeet shits in the street
and he applies this principle to all of his life
to the way he talks
to the way he codes
I learned from the jeet
I stopped giving a fuck about anything but making the computer spit out the stuff I want
I don't give a damn about best practices in code architecture
FUCK clean coding that shit is a cancer
bloody bastard bitch uncle bob
literally just shit the code out like a jeet shitting in the street
if you're thinking about organization, etiquitte, etc. then your'e thinking too much
i won't even correct the typos in this post
I just let it flow, like a jeet do
do this, you'll accomplish so much more
once your'e down with jeet moding, switch back to white person mode and organize / clean up your street
this prevents analysis paralysis and spending a week on "organizing" code you dont even know what is gonna do

TL;DR
>alternate between jeet and white man
>shit in the street
>clean up the street
>success

>>528205652
>>528205686
Lol why are you so edgy take a chill pill and relax

I hate modelling hair.

>>528206457
The most fun I ever had with gamedev was when I was making shitty small games that would never be commercially viable in Godot 3.x with the sole aim of baiting reactions from agdg streamers on demo day. I want to go back.

>>528206816
Bait is play.
Commercial viability is a practice of head-bowing and needle-threading.
No wonder women succeed in this climate.

The inner circle ruined this place. If you have an issue with what became of this place post 2021 you can go straight to the discord and tell them yourself

>>528206745
bro why is there a mop on her head?

>>528206745
The worst part is rigging it

>>528206745
just prompt it

>>528197684
>>528197949
someone confirm how their dlc system works. are each one of these a steak or a crab?

>>528206626
Too many losers here have been locked up in their mom's basement for so long that they've forgotten that they are complete losers who will never make anything out of their pathetic lives. You are not some elite autistic hacker known as 4chan. You are an underachieving incompetent loser with no marketable skills, and you will never make a successful game.

>>528207627
Ok even if that's true why are you so upset?

Honestly think I'm going to take a luck approach next time I release a game, IF I don't give up. Really, just shadowdropping your game one day randomly and just hoping it sells is far better for you than actually putting the work in and researching market trends.

>>528206745
How do you even DO that?

>>528179395
SOVL

Early Access is not without consequence

>>528207768
I'm sick of losers making these atrocious baby's first arcade games acting like it's their magnum opus, and then doomposting how no one wants to download their toddler doodles and that gamedev is a lottery. Losers should stay in the locker where they belong.

Non-white alert

>>528208469
Post your successful game or quit yapping

>>528208352
>screenshot himself talking about the heckin /agdg/ game
you have too much free time

>>528205787
That would be kino tbdesu
No I mean something like communicating in sumerian

I'm not the best I could* be, which is okay.
*hypothetical limit

>>528208469
I won't ask the obvious question here but don't you think these said losers will understand that eventually? If anything it's funny seeing them realize how foolish they are, hehe.

Gamers are gay fucking retards. Never capitulate to their demands

>>528206745
I call it myself hairhell

>>528179395
Are you sure?

>>528209240
nice self-insert gaysona you pedotroon homofaggot

>>528208813
How about you grow up?

>>528209042
I don't find it funny one bit. If anything, it's sad. I'm not saying these things because I want to see losers fail. If anything I want to see them succeed, but they will never succeed if they keep rationalizing and coping to protect their fragile egos and demand everyone around them coddle them like the manchildren they are.

>>528200651
How do I make characters/creatures that people act like this for in my game?

Smooth shape? No hair?

ok let's be real. this is gonna flop, right?

>>528209434
fuck off

>>528209434
120 reviews week 1, mixed review due to dogshit performance, ends around 250 to 300 lifetime
call it

>>528208887
>learn a 2nd language for gamedev discussion
sounds more like a larp community to me

>>528209558
better than Tower of Trannymonvo

>>528209359
Your tinge reminds me of grassdev. Touch grass, unironically.

>>528209434
I saw a guy play it. Seems ok, but basically falls short of every game it's inspired by. Seems like it's spread too thin.

>>528209359
Oh so you care about them, I thought you're just a mean bully. Well even if that's the case you shouldn't worry about it too much, I personally don't really care and believe as long as someone pours all his heart into something he'll create something of value even if doesn't meet his expectations.

>>528209428
Typhlosion is a muscular blob. Large backwards-swept ears are good. Cute claws are good.

how to convince my brain to stop thinking about gamedev. i try desperately to tell it that i suck at art so gamedev isn't for me, yet it keeps thinking about gamedev. why is my brain torturing me like that?

what else is there to do in this life? Be a golem? Do what you love

>>528209434
>>528209805
Thomas said in the last podcast the full game is supposed to be 5 hours long. I died. That game is fucked.

>>528209626
This is my sole purpose of knowing english...

>>528210054
do game dev.

Game Dev is what gods partake in.

>>528209918
muscular blob i get.
cute claws i kind of get.

but what's with the ears? What makes them so special?

>>528210224
yes, this is a larp community

>>528210080
bruh
well, if he prices it well it could still do ok

without survival needs, there are 3 Divine Motivations that come to mind;

Love. Art / Creation. Play.

Don't let anyone shame you into thinking these three things aren't the biggest things in reality.

>>528210242
Look at sergals. The gay who hugged me was in a sergal outfit.

>>528209758
Grassfag is also a loser, but an old boomer loser.

>>528209848
They're not pouring their heart into it. They're doing the bare minimum and demanding a certificate of participation. They post tiny incremental progress to a game that looks and plays exactly as it has for the last 3 years and get upset and claim that /agdg/ is dying when they get no (You)s. They are creating nothing of value.

>>528210549
So what's your game, then? Maybe you're the doxer?

>>528205658
Let me make this perfectly clear

As much as I hate tranime and tranime cultists. I would take an /agdg/ flooded with tranime fans than I would an /agdg/ controlled by this inner circle and flooded with normalniggers (like we have now). That's how bad this era is.

>>528210260
So we have nothing to lose?

>>528210445
Key term:
>without survival needs
You absolutely deserve to be shamed for being distracted by frivolities when your survival needs have not been met.

>>528210737
The Divine Motivations are eternal and do not dissipate with the worlds.

>>528209359
>how about you grow up?
>telling people to give up instead of offering reasonable criticism and encouraging them to get better like someone with any ounce of maturity
Gonna have to get the butter and lemon for this king crab

>>528201807
I don't even have 200 wishlists and my steam page has been up for over a year....

>>528210549
Hmm I've only been here for a week so I wouldn't know, still I think you shouldn't stress yourself over matters like this.

>>528206278
when would you use long over int in an artfag game?

going to have a tavern in my game at the edge of the world where 2 anthro crabs sit and tell you not to go over the edge . But you have to.

>>528210937
Embarrassing. I'm the only non-inner circle dev to hit 1000 in less than 3 months

>>528211167
lying to the player is great game design

>>528206278
>making games alone for 30 years
When I'm jeff vogels age, I'll have been doing it for 50 years.

>>528210679
I obviously can't say who I am at this point.

>>528210880
Solo indie gamedev is one of the absolute hardest things you can be doing in life. Those that have it in themselves to work harder, git gud, and succeed will do so regardless of what they read on an anonymous image board and are impossible to "crab". Those that don't have it in themselves SHOULD give up for their own good. This jobby is not for everyone. In fact, most anons would be WAY better off if they give up this pipe dream of escaping the wagecage or imminent homelessness via solo indie gamedev and instead, bite the bullet, learn one single marketable skill, and get an industry job at some AAA studio. Too bad that sounds too realistic and practical. They would rather stay delusional.

damn, this shit really is a video game plot

get on it, /agdg/

>>528209434
Probably. In an interview he got really animated when talking about how bioshock was testing poorly internally until they added the andrew ryan intro. Brush has been tweeting looking for an artist to make an intro for him...

>>528211270
my game is going to be full of characters trying to get the player to not progress through the game.

>>528209434
It'll make about a milly and he'll be really, really, really unhappy about that.

>>528211167
Ludo moment

>>528211582
this is why you shouldn't play more than 2 hours of games per day

>>528211270
I waited for toriel.

>>528199620
I ate a banana and I feel better.

>>528212030
>about a milly
*over a period or several years

>>528211582
Wasn't that basically the plot to Metal Gear Solid?

>>528211561
>Solo indie gamedev is one of the absolute hardest things you can be doing in life.
Adding to this, there have been essentially ZERO successful solo indie gamedevs. The vast majority of supposed "solo indie gamedevs" were in fact NOT solo. Toby Fox had a team, including an artist who led the entire art direction of Undertale separate from Fox. Eric Barone had a publisher who gave him art contractors and more importantly playtest contractors to help hone the addictive nature of Stardew.

If you want to make a successful game you absolutely cannot be a solodev.

Oopsies accidentally left a debug message in the patch again, hey at least this time it isn't a slur.

>>528172231
>winner win
>losers lose
That's it baby!

>>528212845
Bro, your #ifdef NDEBUG?

>>528195332
>All I need is my trusty init file
>48 lines long
>My init file is creeping on a 1,000.
I could probably chop it down some, but I don't think it'd be the best use of my time.

>>528195332
I use cmder on Windows.

if my game gets decompiled its gonna cause at least 3 suicides

>>528212815
>essentially ZERO s
so not zero...

Maybe a ponytail instead of a bun?

>>713209043
>4k reviews at $20
>1k reviews at $20
>next game cancelled
I don't get it. They don't like money? They don't like eating?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-YHsSvO_lU
Why aren't you doing this, sisters?

>>528214994
give me the quick rundown i wont be clicking youre video

IndirectY

>>528215180
This.

>>528214860
they did the indie thing where you actually plan and budget for a sequel but then go wildly over estimate like usual and then run out of cash because you think for some reason there are no stakes this time and your game will sell no matter what (perhaps, but not if it doesnt come out!)

>>528203364
What the fuck is this faggot retard saying? This is literally the most broken accent I've ever heard, it's barely English.

>>528215398
The lesson?
Never EVER Hire ANYBODY!!!
Solodev for LIFE!

>>528214807
I hope you're not a l*li..

>>528214994
This shitty video showed up in my recommendations and won't fuck off, still not watching, never will, kys shill.

>>528214994
I'm not watching, but are you suggesting Aggy-pop collective? no way, I would be carrying the whole lot of you.

I just added more to my game in 2 weeks than some games have in their entirety on steam. And guess what? It won't be enough.

>>528215641
I can carry more than my own weight but I don't wanna collab with anyone.

>>528214994
Gave you a view. Enjoy that 0.05 cents or whatever it turns out to be.

>>528215180
>>528215362
>>528215584
It's 12 minutes of "copy sokpop"

>>528215287
ClosedBL

>>528215437
he's a brahmin chad

>>528215678
yes, it will be too much and that's why you will fail

>>528213243
>taking the time to ifdef debug messages

>>528214801
Your odds are better playing the lottery.

I can't wait to work on fun features instead of this low level engine stuff.

I'm not exaggerating when I say this: The better my game has become the more people have become dismissive or even openly hostile towards it. When it was a programmer art pile of nuts and bolts everyone complimented me and told me how great it is but the better it became the more it provoked angry and negative reactions from those same people.

/agdg/ wants you to fail. They want you to stay a loser with no realization and no future. The better you become the more they will hate you for it. Nothing about this is rational. Nothing about this is meritocratic. The better your game becomes it will just attract more hostility from the inner circle - those very same devs you know and love - they feel threatened by you. It's ugly but it's the truth.

Any names for her? I haven't come up with one

>>528216582
hey boku, how's the game coming along?

>>528216582
nobody believed me when I said this buy osur, rodbot, marmanus are some of the most crabby fags in this whole place

>>528216582
That's because you still don't understand what good art is. Simple programmer art is good because it clearly communicates gameplay. Mediocre art with mixed fidelity doesn't add anything to the game, and instead only muddies gameplay.

>>528216410
You ifdef the debug message macro definition so you can define it to a NOOP on release builds and no further ifdefs are needed.

wtf is an ifdef

>>528216796
Gabbie

microsoft saw my game and bought it from me for $16 billion dollars so does that mean i'm not an amateur anymore? can i still post here?

>>528216930
A guy who transitions from nodev to yesdev depending on circumstance

I have the insidious type of third crab, the gigacrab that employs both toxic and negative positivity. They don't pretend to like your game because they know you're not doing great and want you to continue making mistakes, they do to fill you with self doubt.

Are they just praising me to get other people to attack me? Are they trying to make me look like I'm replying to myself? What is their motive?

>>528216796
Call her Goberella.

>>528216950
I actually love that name, thank you !

>>528216796
sex object #01

>>528216930
A preprocessor directive.

>6 coffees
>4 caffeine pills
>still tired

>>528217319
GO TO SLEEP NIGGA

>>528217319
Have you tried resting

>>528214994
Imagine 'studying the market' when the best thing you can bring to market is 'tanks but no tanks'

>>528217319
Real energy comes from within, all these stimulants are bullshit.

>>528173105
>a blog
do u have the link? i can't find it

real energy comes from amphetamines

>>528200841
>- About 3102 games have 10000 or more wishlists. This is 9% of upcoming games.
do you retards have any idea what this means? 10k wishlists is a near impossible task without a publisher or massive funding. And even if you get that, you're BARELY in the top 10%. LMFAO HAHAHAHAHA

Perhaps the lesson you're supposed to learn when doing "market research" is not to learn what sells, but why it sells?

>>528217697
It sells because it's a good, fun game that people want to play.

>>528217673
Even worse, kalemonvo which was even higher. Top 5 or maybe 3% still flopped despite that

>>528216582
All negative comments toward my game are being put in the credits

high wishlists just means you get into a lot of steam festivals because you have a publisher thats buddy buddy with the organizers
the baseline of getting into even minor ones on the steam frontpage is like 1500 WLs

>>528217319
Ignore the nodevs, after the 96 hour mark is when the fatigue passes and the progress begins to flow

>>528217994
yeah that's possible. So that might be why those wishlists are so worthless

>>528217673
That's including all the AA and AAA and AAAA games on steam which aren't direct competition to an indie

I’m thinking of starting to make a game if I don’t get a job this summer, I’m thinking of doing a dungeon crawler kinda like king’s field with very rudimentary 3d since I can’t draw for shit(how originals), the thing is I’m struggling to find interesting mechanics, I already have that go in back out kinda thing like king’s field (god I fucking love king’s field) I have basically most of the setting in my head already, problem is I don’t have that much interesting original mechanics, the combat I kinda wanted to put in a side step mechanic but fight knight’s already kinda that, maybe it’s original enough in a non grid environment like real time combat, there’s more of that getting behind the enemy and back attacks and what not thing going on, like I attack the front and enemy does a stab and i dodge to the side and the he spins so I go back and then I go behind him and he does a back attack or whatever and it could have a more environment focused thing going on like more traps and enclosed spaces like more of a dungeon, sen’s fortress kinda thing,I love sen’s, I love the traps stuff, I just doesn’t feel very original over all
The setting is at least somewhat original I hope

>>528218286
>I’m thinking of starting
Didn't read. Start with Pong.

I feel fucking dumb for getting so confused by pointers
it's like some mental block and one more "think of it like the address vs the mailbox" metaphor won't help.
I'm even ok, good even, with deep and dirty abstraction, I got a math degree once upon a time.
I think I just haven't found the right resource but every thing I've come across is shit at teaching/explaining it, or for whatever reason it just doesn't stick.

Makes me feel like a dum-dum ding-dong.

>>528218286
Not reading all this gay shit

jlmg

>>528218362
Already did that, it’s in my college course

>>528217609
it seems they render from 3d and then reduce to 128x128 2D textures

>>528218412
Think of it like the address vs the mailbox.

>>528218412
>I'm even ok, good even, with deep and dirty abstraction
There's your problem, you think it's an abstraction. You're treating it like high level (fake) math.

In reality, a pointer is the polar opposite of an abstraction. It is the true state of what is happening on the hardware.

>>528217997
Fact Check: true!

>>528218474
Can we play it right this moment? Post it.

>>528211561
Not everyone is trying to make millions dawg. Chill the fuck out

>>528172574
What's on that TV, Kludgedev? Your stuff lookin' great as always. Big fan of physics playgrounds.

>>528175114
big hips...

>>528196292
Nice. Still would like to see bigger carrying inventory. Or at least a way to quickly restock when the customer phase isn't going on.


Check out this boner enemy I made. Really pleased with how he turned out. He'll be a pathetic little guy who runs from the player until they get close (then he'll throw whatever he's holding or pull back his skull and fire a laser beam).

>>528218768
Sry brotein shake, that file’s looooong gone, I did that 2 years ago or something, I’ll see if I can still access the moodle page with it though

>>528219050
Ludo skeleton

>>528218964
>millions
Aim for billions - that way you'll be set if you achieve even 1% of your goal.

>>528219050
fuck off smelly kalemnigger

>>528219207
Kalemonvodev is based. Do not say mean things about him.

Also, I'm not Kalemonvodev. Boner boy is from a different game.

>>528219113
You should make it again, ideally in 3D using Godot or Unity rather than whatever garbage framework like javax.swing your useless class told you to make it in. You can't design anything without knowing what limitations you're designing within.

>>528219303
He's literally the main culprit in the enshittification of the threads and making this place unfriendly to all devs who aren't in his little clique

Nintendo isn't going to buy the rights to your game if it's made in gaydot. Simple as.

>>528219970
they already did tho

>>528219896
You have proof or you are just schizoing?

>>528218964
Any game that is worth anyone's time to play is worth paying money for. Everyone is competing for player attention. No one wants to pour their heart and soul and thousands of hours into a project just to have no one want play it.

>>528219050
>Or at least a way to quickly restock when the customer phase isn't going on.
I posted about this the other day, you can now access the storage inventory while the shop is closed (this took a considerable rewrite).
I still have hopes for a limited inventory while the shop is open, though. We'll see how it pans out.

>progress
How come the boneman has purple acne? Enemy gameplay wise sounds funny, though a pain to track down if you want to maximize exp per floor.

>tfw og bocchiposter
>i won and stopped coming here for a bit
>check recent threads
>i'm getting tired of winning sisters
>mfw no face

>>528220547
>be an absolute piece of shit
>shit up a whole general
>I WON
yes you won at being an insufferable piece of shit congrats

>>528220547
what?

>>528217661
for me it's coffee and cocaine

>>528220771
>yes you won
you're making me blush sis, i already said i got tired of winning

>>528220456
Notice which devs he talks to, whose games he talks about, and whose games he streams. He's the establishment around these parts. If you have a problem about anything in these threads just remember that they have multiple discords where they coordinate their talking points

>>528220471
there are plenty of free games that slap and plenty of dogshit low effort games that make money
and we post things to demo day and do gamejams, so others can play it

>>528220926
cocaine last too short and makes you sperg out more, unless you do it like truck drivers in Bolivia that just buy a kilo of leaves and chew them. phetamines are great for micro dosing tho

>>528218412
The idea isn't that hard, it's the syntax that's shit and when it's nested it gets really ugly.

>>528220503
>I posted about this the other day, you can now access the storage inventory while the shop is closed (this took a considerable rewrite).
Nice. I don't check the thread too frequently so I just know what I recall from the last Demo Day. Good job on that rewrite.

>How come the boneman has purple acne? Enemy gameplay wise sounds funny, though a pain to track down if you want to maximize exp per floor.
Lore tldr is a "digital infection" of sorts. All the enemies in the game stem from these little virtual pet guys (that people carry around inside of weapons) consuming their owners. All the enemies are going to have some sort of signage or pattern that evokes the low-res virtual pet imagery.

As for exp there shall be no exp in the game! These guys are mostly decorative, but I might also let them alert other enemies if they see you.

>>528221290
People aren't playing those games because they are good fun games that people want to play. They are playing them because of social pressures, or to trade feedback. It's the same as when friends and family humor kids and go to watch kids sports events or music recitals. You are no longer a kid. Grow up.

>>528221504
Interesting, well as long as there's some sort of progression the lack of exp is fine I imagine. As for the lore, it sounds 2deep4me, tomagachi inside weapons that consume the people holding them? Kind of whack, but I imagine it makes more sense when you play it.

My game is taking so long. it was cutting edge when i started. but when i release it will be considered retro

Why the fuck are turn-based battles more complicated than I thought. I fucking thought they'd be simpler than real time action combat but there's a million things underneath the hood going on, so unbelievably tedious, and I haven't even gotten to the graphics yet, this is still just the logic.
Current state: exhausted

>>528221328
I think it's the syntax and maybe overthinking it like >>528218565 suggested.
I got really hung up on trying to understand from a "int* blah" vs "int *blah" perspective both.

>>528221516
Yeah. I know. And the fact that it's so straightforward to show makes me feel like even more of a ding-dong, thanks.
But you can't just look at an image like that and then start actually doing anything meaningful with pointers afterwords.

>>528222902
they can be simpler. but we choke on our ambitions...

>>528222902
blackpill:
action games are still turn based at 60 turns per second

It seems that you're wasting your time if you market your game outside of reddit, tiktok and instagram.

>>528222976
One simple trick that took me a long time to figure is you should stop treating programming and math "personally", and what I mean by that is treating it as a very serious problem and overthinking a bunch about how it's solved that way and why and trying to understand it 100% and all of that jumble in your mind. Instead treat it as a kids toy you couldn't care less about, try to figure it out as if it's a children game, and if you can't, try again later or tomorrow.
I really don't know how to convey this properly but it's basically the "just stop caring" meme applied to math/programming.

>>528223510
YouTube, 4chan, Tumblr, and Second Life for me

>>528223614
ah also reddit I forgot reddit .

>>528222976
It's not that complicated. int* is a pointer (address) to an int. * is also an unary operator called "dereference" which is the action of visiting an address. You can use the operator & called "address of" to get the address of a variable (i.e. a memory location).

The simplest way to learn pointers is in the context of C arrays, which are stored in sequential memory, and therefore you can directly perform math operations on those addresses. The [0] operator is the exact same as the * operator. my_array[1] is the same as *(my_array+1). and my_array[2] is the same as *(my_array+2).

>>528223510
london subway walls, Skywriting, times square and nintendo store flier spill

>>528222902
Engines like Unity and Godot are designed around real time gameplay. If you want turn-based gameplay, and you don't want to just buy/download a premade system, then you essentially need to enginedev that entire system yourself.

>>528224093
ignore this retard

>>528224260
no u

>>528224093
>it's enginedev to make the gameplay systems of an RPG
anon...

I thought people said unity was bad?

>>528223810
>It's not that complicated.
Yes, and a monad is just a monoid in the category of endofunctors.

I think I need to actually just go this route >>528223528 in a sense, and just grind through a lot of usage somehow.
It's just weird because I usually am able to really "get" things from definitions and minimal examples. But for some reason it doesn't happen with any explanation of pointers I've seen so far.
It's almost definitely a matter of needing to get hands on with it, I bet.

>>528224487
lilbro thinks this looks good :skull:

>>528221987
>it's the same as when family humor kids..
It's not the same at all. All kinds of creative hobbies have small collaborative events like this. Like musicians or writers sharing with each other. and not everyone's goal is to make money, just share their work, get feedback, have fun. You sound so jaded you can't even conceive of that notion. You're the one who needs to grow up dawg

>>528222976
Think of it: why would you even use pointers in the first place?

Example:
int a = 1;
int b = a;

That just works and there's nothing wrong with it. It's also fast because it just copies 32 or 64-bits depending on compiler optimization, CPU architecture and more.

Example 2:
int f(int a)
{
// There is NO way to change something outside this function without resorting to making the variable you want to change into a global or returning the new value from this function.
}
f(a);

int f2(int *a)
{
*a = 1; // Pointers are required in this case because there is no other way aside from the options I mentioned in f(int a)
}

int fret(int a)
{
return 1; // If you're not using global variables then you would return the new value. For this case this would still be fast and the compiler will insert not too many instructions.
}
int b = fret(a);

Example 3:
struct Data {
int myData[2000];
};
int f(Data d) // This will copy an int array every time you call this function if it even works at all because you might need more stack space.
{
// ...
}
Data f(void) // This will return and also copy an entire int array.
{
// ...
}
Depending on how the compiler will optimize this it may do a variety of options like adding a implicit pointer in the instructions before you call f(). But there are no guarantees and the worst case is that it will copy data unnecessarily.

Example 4:
int f(int *myData)
{
// ...
}
f(d.myData); // Passing a member will convert the array to a pointer.

Example 5:
int myData[5] = {1,2,3,4,5};
int *myPtr = myData;

0[myPtr] == myPtr[0] // Arrays are pointers so this will both result in *(myPtr + 0) or *(0 + myPtr)

>>528224487
neat, add some post processing

>>528224487
>the sun and moon share an orbit
hahahahaha

>'18
didn't read

anyone who isn't a retarded anime avatarfag is welcome to give a shot at an explanation

>>528224454
I concede

>>528218412
Hope this helps. I think books on C give better explanations of pointers than C++ books.
https://www.w3schools.com/c/c_memory_reallife.php

>>528224718
pointers are a jew psyop dw about them