Thread 531676614

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>>531612226

>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?
HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on a number of contested planets, each with a different environment, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful operations, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must cooperate to try to liberate the entire galaxy by focusing and combining their efforts as much as possible.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/
https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt

>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?
Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/


>LOBBY HOSTING
https://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png
>MODDING
https://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png

>INFORMATION RESOURCES
https://helldivers.wiki.gg/
https://helldiverscompanion.com/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1xA_wuSuV6NORqUCt1aZ203raG4HuUJ85btqmn0ld56U/htmlview

>MAJOR NEWS
Jul 02 Warbond Token https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516339785321679794
Jul 03 XBox release Aug 26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTs9VDm4KAU
Jul 17 Control Group https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8FKZG2lPBw

>LATEST PATCHES
Jul 15 1.003.200 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/601909716088521243
Jul 16 1.003.201 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/516341688493408284

Daily reminder that after a warbond releases /hdg/ gets flooded by bad players who try to use X, suck at it, then come here to complain that it's bad.

The official status of the new warbond is that its well above average to even OP tier nearly on par with Democratic Detonation.

Warp Pack + Quasar for teleport and shoot kino

I need the eruptor and all who use it brought out behind the shed

>Masters of Ceremony
>everyone says it's shit
>it's actually kino
>Control Group
>everypne gets hyped because of meme pack
>it's fucking shit and whatever isn't shit is dysfunctionally janky
What gives

>>531676948
Can you dive and warp, could you dive, warp, land on ground then one tap with full burst?

>>531676516
>You described the exact same thing twice.
no? I don't see how. I'm establishing the conditions of a hypothetical scenario.If some code fuckery was happening that made the epochs spread 10 times worse than it is listed as being, that's a bug.
but it's not. the actual value is just 150. no weird code conflicts, no multiplying values out of nowhere, the base value that the engine is pulling from to determine the spread is just set arbitrarily really high. It's an oversight, like if they released a gun that did 1000 damage a shot instead of 100.

where is the SC farming session?

>>531676948
wow you took out the easiest heavy in the game

>>531677042
Doesn't let you warp while diving sadly

See you soon, Space AR-10.

>>531676863
>Charge up
>Warp in
>Blast
>Warp out
So fun

>>531677165
What a miserable, small man you must be.

>>531677028
Both warbonds are good, in fact all warbonds are good I can't think of one that I purchased and went "this was 100% irredeemable garbage".

How the fuck does the variable magazine work?

Where is my dump for medals and samples so I can stop capping out?

>>531677169
Damn how annoying

>>531677306
Australian Magic

>>531677306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8hlj4EbdsE

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242415850428/76561198068408065
lobby decides

>>531677281
being impressed by a bot clip is like being impressed by a grown man beating up a toddler

>arrowhead: hmmm, the players are right, the open bile titan's mouth should've been a weakpoint...what, they're shooting the charger's leg? how did we not know they'd figure that out... damn, are we bad at game design? we need to rethink this going forward...
>also arrowhead: the glowing red dots on the war strider's chest are actually just part of its chest and not separate components, shooting them doesn't do anything special at all lol

>>531677420
Low threat home defense weapon clearly

>>531677447
VIDEO GAME/4

I play Bots because I can play the game without having 1000 fodder melee mobs glued to me at all times

>>531677447
2/4

>>531677306
the bullets are all inside of the barrels lined up and are fired in sequence by setting off their charges with electricity running to only the segment of barrel they're in

>>531677306
>Metal Storm used the concept of superposed load; multiple projectiles loaded nose to tail in a single gun barrel with propellant packed between them
>Metal Storm has created a 36-barreled stacked projectile volley gun, boasting the highest rate of fire in the world. The prototype array demonstrated a firing rate of just over 1 million rounds per minute for a 180-round burst of 0.01 seconds (~27,777 rpm / barrel). Firing within 0.1 seconds from up to 1600 barrels (at maximum configuration) the gun claimed a maximum rate of fire of 1.62 million RPM and creating a dense wall (0.1 m between follow-up projectiles) of 24,000 projectiles.
The most bullets ever bulleted, it was so bulleted that when it fired it often fired everything in the barrel, firing even more bullet for each bullet. Which was its eventual downfall, it fired too many bullets.

>>531677548
enemy weak spots that aren't really fucking obvious are better than giant glowing bits

Teleporter with melee (peak physique+hatchet).... yay or nay?

>>531677447
3/4

>>531677967
resident evil and its consequences have been a disaster for enemy design in third/first person shooters

>>531677447
4/4 full

>>531678018
they tried to counter this recently with copbond coming out so soon after parade bond, the worst offender
I wonder if that guy who made the graph showing the downward trend is still going

>>531677986
Why not its not a hard game

>>531677918
>Firing within 0.1 seconds from up to 1600 barrels (at maximum configuration) the gun claimed a maximum rate of fire of 1.62 million RPM and creating a dense wall (0.1 m between follow-up projectiles) of 24,000 projectiles.
This is so fucking autistic

forgot to upload this one
audio: https://files.catbox.moe/u18xlv.mp4

>It takes 2 full charged shot to kill a charger to the head with Epoch
Am I doing this right?

>Ready strat
>Dive
>Warp mid dive
>Throw beacon before i hit the ground
Gaming.

>>531678590
ur supposed to shoot the front legs and finish it off with your primary weapon

>>531678590
Probably. The thing is weirdly inconsistent and the accuracy is fucked. There will always be THAT GUY swearing every new thing is fine though.

>Safe mode on jump pack has a very short CD
>No stamina cost
>Can go through walls and up and down geometry
People saying the Jump pack is still better are unironically coping.

>>531678590
It's also utterly shit as AoE in term of fire rate. Might as well take purifier if you want AoE.

IGNORE EPOCH BAIT POSTS
DO NOT REPLY TO EPOCH BAIT POSTERS

>>531678590
One to leg or one to anus

>>531678374
HD1 also had this as the one-use only machine gun and it was glorious, hopefully it makes a proper return with even higher fire rate. I want to mag dump 1000 rounds in 0.1 seconds with 0 accuracy.

>>531679070
the spread is the least of its problems desu

>>531679172
agree, but discord trannies will say you're not using it right

pick your bug that'd you'd like to fug hdg! bug fuggin' is allllriiiight.

>>531677759
Illuminate would be 100 milllion times better if it was all vehicles and overseers.

>>531679343
why do anime trannies have to push their shitty gook cartoon into everything like furfags?

>>531679343
>It's just anime humans in costumes
Coward.

>>531679353
Just wait until (((they))) arrive.

>>531679581
>bugdivers implode

>>531679641
*botdivers

>>531679343
the terminids don't want you to know this but the scavengers at the AO are free
you can take them to the super destroyer

>>531676816
You must get paid or work with the company. Or, you know it's shit.
This is definitely the worst warbond of the bunch.
The
Pick it last if you choose.
The Epoch is a piece of shit. Doesn't even have a safety like the Railgun.
The armor is worthless and leaves you bleeding.
The laser sentry is old news and should of been given to us a year ago with it being an asset flip.
The Varible might be the only thing fun.
I want my 1000 Super Credits back.

COOL

>>531679641
*botdivers

>Laser turret has a range of 50 meters and likes to shoot at shit center mass, doing fuck all for damage on certain units. It also loves to shoot at dropships that it does fuck all to too.
Jesus Christ, this turret is more garbage than the flamer turret was until this last patch.

How angry would you be if the game became a class based shooter?

>>531679953
>Reddit posting
ESL LMAO

>>531667161
allah, please smite AH's sound team for FUCKS sake.
https://files.catbox.moe/1u9oi3.mp4

>>531680064
not very if it made solo fagging less common

>>531680064
>Armor customization
I wish.

Jungle map sucks

>Brown on brown violence
More likely than you think

>>531680057
Its good vs squids and bugs. It can also be stopped with a smoke break.

>>531680170
for me, sometimes randomly the senator will be 200% volume and blast out my eardrums

>>531680064
Not at fucking all

>>531680274
50 meters range is still absolute garbage. At least 100 meters would be respectable for this shit turret, and rocket turret has an aggro range of somewhere around that amount too if I recall. LC itself has an affective range of 200 meters, though.

>>531680064
me on the far right

>>531677173
I like how it looks like a sci fi version of the M5A2 from the old Resistance games. Shame after the killzone debacle they’re a lot less likely to mine dead old sony IP for warbond fodder

>>531679519
anime website faggot

>>531680064
All other co-op games are already class garbage. I will NOT be your tank cuck or your heal slut.

Orbital Precision Strike should have 30 second cooldown and slight increase to radius of the explosion.

>>531679519
Obsessed

>We managed to get blink tech before the ayys did.
That's what those fucking losers get for failing to take over Super Earth during their invasion.

if you farm SC, you are brown, end of story, no I don't care you have light skin, you're still spiritually brown

>>531679641
*botdivers

>>531680609
No.
t. strafing run main

>>531680112
You would know, faggot.
I bet you have a login and everything.

>>531680064
would be based, actually players should have strengths and weaknesses and relying on teammates to cover them would be good

>>531680609
All the orbital strikes feel bad. Except, maybe, the suppressing ones that last a long time.

>>531680609
>throw OPS in a city
>REPOSITIONING 0:15
>INBOUND
>hits a skyscraper
yeah

>>531680826
more likely three classes are shit and everyone just plays the one that's best solo

>An assault rifle is a better sniper than any sniper we have
Being able to one tap a hulk this well on this gun is criminal

>>531680609
It should have 2 charges

>>531680064
When they add in the 8 man missions I will be ok with it being classes based to keep it balanced

>>531679343
>Getting milked by brood commanders while her squad holds me down

>>531680532
we don't sign our posts here

>>531680609
>how it is
3500 projectile damage
1000 explosive damage
>how it should be:
1000 projectile damage
3500 explosive damage

>>531680064
>autists love the idea of everything being neatly organized into a class system
unsurprising frankly

>>531680609
This.

>>531680609
>why are unlimited use strategems bad

>>531681858
it's not unlimited though, there's a timer.

>>531679641
*botdivers

>>531681858
almost all stratagems are unlimited use?

>>531682232
Eagles aren't though?

>>531681043
>Cant survive on xis own because he needs support for heals

>>531682338
you're joking, right?

>>531682454
The rearm is also a timer

>>531682482
You can use Eagles an unlimited number of times throughout a mission, which makes them unlimited. You cannot call in an unlimited number of mechs and Orbital Lasers, which makes them limited.

>>531682631
>>531682482
You're both obtuse faggots. OPS can be used more often and is therefore less powerful than a 500kg.

>>531680609
No, all it needs is a 70 second cooldown so that with full upgrades it has about a 60 second cooldown. Beyond that, Orbital Smoke and Orbital EMS need cooldown reductions to be approximately the same as Orbital Gas.

>>531681643
It's called Orbital Precision Strike, not Orbital General Area Strike.

>>531677447
ggs

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242415850428/76561198068408065
ROUND 2 - Bugfucking

>>531682835
>It's called Orbital Precision Strike, not Orbital General Area Strike.

>>531681858
>>531682631
Fully upgraded OPS is limited to about 30 uses. Upgraded 500 KG you can use about 36 times. Realistically you'll use them less but w/e.

>>531683060
3/4

I'd join these lobbies but I'm a shitter

>>531683258
So is everyone else

>>531677042
>>531677169
Huh, it worked for me. You can dive and warp but you gotta do it during the initial jump, too late and you can't warp.

>>531680064
>people actually agree with this post
This fucking thread is compromised

>>531683060
4/4 full

>>531683326
Play in a private lobby.

>>531683258
Nobody cares, the people who join those games are chill. Don't let the retards screeching in the thread scare you. Those don't play the game or are too scared of joining games.

>>531680064
This would unironically solve the soloniggers issue

>>531683563
Go back to /copeg/, tourist.

>>531683593
actually playing the game while chair sniffers throw napalm at each other is an issue now?

>>531683736
don't sniff me

>>531680064
That's what it was until 60 day patch happened and everyone brings AT as their support weapon and anything else is considered a dead pick.

>>531683173
I'm actually wrong - you can only use the 500kg about 34 times. I took the 10% partial rearm into account but still counted it as if you had used both bombs.
You can still use the 500kg more than you can OPS, of course provided it's your only Eagle.

Sometimes i wonder if you faggots and we play the same game. Or if you play the game at all. Or maybe you're really just pretending to be retarded to make me mad. I don't know anymore.

>>531683541
I look like this

>>531683985
maybe I'm just a figment of your imagination

>>531683978
Classic case of zoomers needing to be told what to do and how to do it. They need something to grind otherwise they cannot play the game, there's just no reason to. They need pre-defined classes to know what their job is, and to know what to expect from other people, and if they're allowed to screech at them because they're playing the class wrong. Fucking grim.

Done with Tarsh, absolute garbage map

>>531679343
why are they all so much larger than their feral counterparts? These enemies are both fearsome and marriage material.

>>531678590
Epoch vs chargers is ye-olde leg meta.

>>531684182
Why are you even dropping there to begin with

>>531678590
leg meta. extra funny with the variable as a full magazine total shot atomizes the leg
the ass is also ao ne shot but good luck getting the charge off before it turns around, and good luck actually hitting the ass and not the ass plates with the massive spread.

>>531684182
what's the matter anon, you don't like trees blocking your stratagems, volcano plants, mud, and the complete inability to see anything?

So what's fucked about the Epoch? Do we have a concise list
>LOL LMAO weapon spread (acknowledged and should be fixed)
>apple bacon levels of demo force (they probably just copied the projectile of the plasma punisher as a starting point and forgot about the demo force mechanic entirely).
I think these two are objectively problems that need to be fixed.
>a non-linear increase of damage
>overcharge visual indicators that are not properly synced to the charge meter actually being overcharged
>the grace period before exploding is debateably too slow.
I think fixing these would be good quality of life fixes, but not absolutely necessary.
>overall ammo economy
I haven't used it enough yet to really say if there is a problem with the ammo economy or not. It's hard to tell with the shit spread making it impractical to target weak points.

Did I miss anything?

>>531684604
I'll massively spread your ass plates

When are they gonna let me hollow one of these guys out and wear it as heavy armor

How high does the charge go? I assume that there's additional damage to be had after the "glowy blue aura around the tip of the gun disappears" part, but how much?

>>531681643
>>531682835
He's just trying to fix the thing's damage. The explosion damage wasn't buffed alongside the big buff to heavy HP when the 60 day patch happened. They overlooked it because their damage system is needlessly complex, and the dumb devs only listen to a "low sodium" plebbit where it is a bannable offense to report bugs.

Even if they fix the spread on the Epoch, it's still dogshit

>>531684730
>>LOL LMAO weapon spread (acknowledged and should be fixed)
acknowledged? got the discord screeny?

>>531684914
read the fucking thread

>>531684914
No. I'm just accepting this anon's post at face value. >>531679070

>>531684914
scroll up retard

>>531684909
Disagree. It is okay if the accuracy is fixed. A solid B tier stratagem.

>>531682736
...Less powerful doesn't mean less useful.

>>531684825
>How high does the charge go? I assume that there's additional damage to be had after the "glowy blue aura around the tip of the gun disappears" part, but how much?
I'm moderately certain that the explosion just has too levels. Weak and strong. Strong mode kicks in a few moments AFTER the blue flash around the muzzle because ofcourse the obvious "i'm overcharged now" signal isn't actually synced with being overcharged. Don't you love bacon flavored apples?

OPS is less useful than a Quasar

>>531684996
its on their known issues page on ah's zendesk

>volley is mid, funny to delete mediums and some heavies with a full volley but AH's console induced firemode switching make it cumbersome like every other gun that has a worthwhile alternative fire
>armor is worthless unless you enjoy getting a possible second chance at your suicide strategy, bleeding change is unwelcome and invasive as hell, should have only been 3-4 instead of 10
>laser sentry is possibly the most worthless sentry yet especially after the flame sentry no longer nukes itself and has a way lower cooldown. sentry AI can't be relied upon to do anything so it just shoots at things it can't kill until it blows up
>epoch is, surprisingly, not only more difficult to use then it is worth, but also bugged on release and not satisfying, that will be 1000 supercredits saar
>arc grenades are unremarkable and not having demo force pretty squarely puts them in the same category as smokes/stuns: not being able to close spawners with your grenades isn't a good enough tradeoff for them
>they didn't even release a booster with this one because all of their other boosters have been wet farts
>warp pack is the only good thing which is so good its conceivable that AH made an error when they released it and they'll either nerf it or will be too scared to nerf it and just accept that it will be insanely good
I think freedom's flame was the only worse warbond jesus

>Hellpod can kill Leviathans now if you strike their main body

HUH since when did they added this, I swear hellpods was just phasing through levs.

>>531685203
Can wait for it to be fixed in a month lmao

>>531685220
>>volley is mid, funny to delete mediums and some heavies with a full volley but AH's console induced firemode switching make it cumbersome like every other gun that has a worthwhile alternative fire
Bro literally change the key you fucking retard

>>531685332
>the location of alternative firemodes aren't consistent across weapons either
how about these retards just add a dedicated key to toggling firemode instead of forcing everyone to use their console ridden aids menu

>>531685332
He's saying that we should have a dedicated keybind for swapping fire modes and not a retarded consolized menu.

>>531685410
>>531685421
My bad. You're right. Fuck arrowhead.

>EPOCH
They didn't even do an ounce of QA testing with this thing did they?

>>531684973
>>531685024
I'm busy actually playing the game

i think the variable is really cool and feels like its straight out of unreal tournament
>>531685421
you can have this with a bit of work. I think I'm gonna put mine on H

>>531685582
What is this supposed to showcase other than your ineptitude?

>>531685582
Nope, straight up from the old stock of weapons made before release. Like almost everything else. Thats why they can shit out warbond as fast as they do. Almost everything is pre-cooked. The day they run out, like another anon said, its fucking over.

>>531685220
>freedom's flame was the only worse warbond jesus
Masters of Ceremony?

>>531685203
>>531679070
>>531685507
Notice how it say "incorrect spread value", so that means the fucking thing will STILL have spread but just less after they patched it

>>531685582
they did but nowadays their balance philosophy is
>release thing
>if people like thing then thing was intended
>if people dont like it its a bug

>>531685582
the grenades can't destroy nests or fabs either
this is by design, Alexus hates the idea of objectives being taken care of by anything other than a hellbomb or copious reds, and thinks he can entice you to use equipment that can't destroy jack shit by barely giving it passing performance

>>531685220
>AI can't be relied upon to do anything so it just shoots at things it can't kill until it blows up
>gatling sentry shoots at heavy devastator shield until it runs out of ammo and goes away
>laser cannon sentry shoots at heavy devastator shield until it blows up and goes away
the end results are the same so it's kind of unfair to knock the laser cannon sentry for something that equally effects MG/gatling sentries

>>531685783
It definitely shows that they are a bunch of thin skinned pussies that are TERRIFIED of upsetting people with nerfs, so instead they're deliberately releasing shit so that they can be praised for buffs later.

>swedish vacations
>they left Alexus alone in charge
>warbond is terrible with release-tier bullshit non-sense
It all makes sense now. We need to wait until his tard wrangler is back in a month.

>>531685686
please explain to the class how that anon is being a retard

>>531679343
>The most mentally unstable looking
>Largest thighs (perfect for breeding)
>Largest mammaries (perfect for feeding our children
Yeah it's bile titan easily.

>>531685805
>plasma cannon can defeat factory striders and twist their level 5 armor into a tangled mess
>it can't scratch a sheet metal shipping container or a chain link fence.
Isn't this a textbook bacon flavored apples situation of dissonance between a player's logical expectations for what a big anti-tank weapon can do and the mechanical realities of the current weapon stats?

>>531685987
Don't even talk to him. Its the same faggot who keeps telling everyone the weapon is fine and you just cannot use it, despite proofs of it being fucked.

>>531685720
freedom's flame introduced
>two flamethrowers (after completely gutting how flamethrowers worked into practical non-functionality)
>a fire version of the punisher (not really a gamechanger and more of a recolor than anything)
>a booster that for all practical purposes causes more teamkills then actual enemy kills, on top of not even functioning correctly when it released because it was causing hellpods to no longer do direct damage
I don't think masters of ceremony was as bad just for the fact that it didn't completely gut weapons it planned to release which required them to roll back the changes later (something they claimed would be nigh impossible for them to do). Ceremony having
>yet another identical function secondary melee weapon
>a support melee weapon (and coining the infamous "you need more?")
>a burst fire diligence with the cardinal sin of a burst fire weapon with a magazine capacity not divisible by its burst size
>a booster for anyone not already maxed on samples
>incendiary grenades that for some reason have insane armor piercing
there were at least one or two solid picks in there. Pretty much everything maybe save the cookout was irredeemable for freedom's flame.

SKILL

ISSUE!!! XD!!!

>>531686136
you did not let it charge to 99,9999% you shitter :OOOOO bad skillz xDDDD

>>531685861
I think the issue is a big draw of the laser sentry is its theoretical infinite uptime but it suffers from the same problems as other sentries, and faster because the more it shoots the faster it kills itself. At least with the MG/gatling sentry, if it still has ammo, its still drawing enemies to it for the most part. The laser sentry will happily blow itself up shooting at a scavenger it can't hit.

>>531685720
The pyrotech grenade is extremely good. After the buffs, reinforced epaulletes isn't that bad either.

They still should fix the fucking flag. How hard would it be to just apply some kind of buff within a radius around it? You could give things like extra stamina regen and fluff it up as the helldivers being imbued with democratic fervor. You could have it apply an extra instance of the "Democracy protects" effect to anyone nearby. It can hasten the cooldown rates of other stratagems. That's just from me spitballing for a minute. This isn't hard.

>>531686206
>>531686136
mindbroken & psyoped

>>531686136
User error THOUGH

>love the way the new armor looks
>will never wear it ever again because I fucking hate the passive
>will never wear the heavy variant because I hate going slow, despite how amazing it looks
WHY the fuck is it still like this
how the fuck can you sell all this cool looking armor and then put 99% of it on a shelf collecting dust because the GAMEPLAY AFFECTING STATES are SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

>>531686271
don't take yourself too seriously buddy, we're making fun of you

>>531683716
Play in a private lobby if you want to play solo.

99% charge doesn't guarantee accuracy either btw its literally LITERALLY fucking random

>>531686136
Works for me, maybe use first person for once in your life NPC

>discord trannies are baiting about the epoch again
>using the same posts from before
embarrassing

>>531686306
Warp pack makes heavy armor movement godlike

>Waiting for planet to be liberated
>Say "gg"
>Stand idle
>Some autist still running around
>Forced to kick him
Read the room, holy shit.

>>531686443
kek my kneejerk reaction was to call out |\| IGR4|-| AKA Sara and i am nearly certain that it's xer again
fucking vermin

Im fully expecting Arrowhead to nerf the shit out of the warp pack because theyre fun hating faggots and didnt know how good it would be in the hands of people with a reaction time faster than 2 seconds.

>>531686604
I mean...

The discord trannies are annoying.
>the big fuckoff supercharged anti-tank plasma gun that can skullfuck bile titans and factory striders is supposed to be incapable of scratching a chain link fence.
>STOP SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT THE COMPANY

The only thing wrong with the Epoch is the accuracy, other than that it's perfectly fine.
>MUH DEMO FORCE
nigger, grenades?

>>531687213
There isn't a single reason why the epoch shouldn't have comparable demo force to its peers. It can't even break a fucking chain link fence, but it can also twist a factory strider's armor into a tangled mess????

Epoch is complete shit and you're all coping.

>>531687213
present me with a single legitimate reason as to why a large plasma explosion from a support weapon shouldn't have any demolition force.
Come on, Sara, you can do it.

>>531687213
The juice isn't worth the squeeze
It either needs to get a way bigger AoE, removing the possibility of killing yourself or a massive damage increase.

>simple flag mission on d7 with friend
>it starts off with some devs and the new strider called in
>then 20 berserkers and 2 hulks appear out of nowhere
>jeet brigade out of nowhere
>then two factory striders out of nowhere
>second set of dropships get called in
So this is what people are complaining about.

>all this seething about the epoch
You all can keep seething. I'll be fwoosh PLAP fwoosh PLAP fwoosh in the meantime.

rail cannon emplacement that fires brick sized projectiles at relativistic speeds when

>>531687769
That would be pretty cool

the bots got a lucky shot on it and killed it themselves, right? no way they changed it overnight. I can see it hitting the tree as well.

>>531687694
>*Projectile bugs*
>*Projectile bugs*
>*Finally fires straight*
>Doesnt kill target
Yeah, woe is me I will be missing out on that.

>>531686136
You're laughing now, but remember when the Purifier, Tenderizer, Adjudicator, Lib Carbine and Thermite used to be considered among the worst weapons you could have?

>Joel trying to rig the MO by distracting us with a nothing burger on Oasis
kek

>>531688373
Not my fault you failed to defend Oasis

>>531685869
They put themselves in a really retarded position where they're afraid of making things too strong so they want play conservative with shit, but they're also too afraid of nerfing shit now too so nothing is ever going to be brought down. The worst part is, I don't think they really understood or actually changed as much as they said they did following the 60 day plan shit. They say they're reevaluating what the players want vs what their original goals were, but it's clear they still want to nerf shit. Alexus was even seething about it in the d*scord about a week ago when someone asked for throwing knife buffs and he said it that it was "already unrealistic they can kill stuff the size of a large animal". You can really tell he's absolutely ITCHING to just nerf a bunch of shit to fulfil "muh milsim meatgrinder" fantasy shit again.

>>531683173
you got math for that?

I just realized that all the people complaining about light pen weapons are all console niggers because they cant aim shit on controllers.

>>531688205
>purifier didn't even correctly charge up before it was patched
>spear's lock-on used to be almost entirely non-functional
>every weapon used to do half or less durable damage it does now, and did less damage overall
>magazines didn't get fully restocked on a resupply
>current heavy penetration weapons like the HMG and railgun used to be completely blocked by vehicle armor
>the defender SMG used to be a straight liberator upgrade because it did so much more damage
>autocannon didn't have a flak mode
>mines used to have a 240s base cooldown
>all sentries used to have a 240s base cooldown
>OPS used to be completely invalidated by orbital scatter modifier
>strafing/gatling didn't penetrate armor
>walking barrage used to be only 3 salvos of 3
>stim pistol used to have an insane amount of inaccuracy and worse projectile speed
>verdict used to be light pen
its amazing how much worse so many things used to be and how bad some things still are now

>new warbond releases
>all the tourists flock back in with garbage takes
can we go back to content drought please

>>531688503
>Implying I gave a shit
Weird takeaway but ok.

can't warp into the bunkers in cities for some reason

>>531687769
>a brick flying that fast in atmosphere
>fired by someone on ground

>>531689020
Works for me, take some distance away from the door. Sometimes you just cant enter the bunker with the warp pack unless you're on a specific distance.

Warp pack is just a straight upgrade to jump pack if you’re trying to be a sneaky fuck right? Going right through a wall and into cover instead of up and over is great

Looks like leaks are dead. Irons1ght is being a nigger and not explaining anything. Probably got upset people were spreading his stuff outside of their sekrit club. There's tons of rumors saying they fucking invited AH devs into the server or some other bullshit

>>531688790
assuming instant input and throwing, with max upgrades OPS has a 76.95 second cooldown and a 3.45 second call in time for a total recycle time of 80.4 seconds. a mission lasts 40 minutes. you can't call in stratagems after the timer hits 0 so we can't use the 2 minutes that the emergency extraction takes to arrive.
40 minutes is 2400 seconds, divided by 80.4 = 29.85
you can throw 29 OPS balls if you do nothing but call it on cooldown.

You're telling me the Spear's lock on used to be WORSE?

were we too mean to them in the past? is that why 90% of post launch content has been so bad? is this our punishment? do we deserve this?

>>531689372
Doubt this guy has a particularly unique skillset
Someone will eventually take his place

>>531689372
>Entire job is to just leak shit
>He has a meltdown for some reason
Why?

>>531688024
Something other than the epoch blew it up.

>warp through wall to evade some bots
>instantly eat 4 rockets to the face from a dev that prefired into the wall

>>531689478
Not mean enough

>>531688856
where are these people who complain about light pen? are they in the thread with us now?

>>531689479
His secret ""leaking"" method was just taking old builds and combining them together according to the people on the server

>>531688912
>Claim autocannon is the pinnacle of balance and what everything is balanced around
>Railgun and breaker top of the meta, nerf them to shit
>Quaser releases and Slugger is good, nerf the shit out of that
>Arc-thrower used to fire at 50% power and great at general chaff clearing
>Nerf the damage AND nerf the dps by needing 100% charge
>Anti-tank sucks because it takes 2 shots minimum to kill chargers and BTs
>Buff Anti-tank to one shot chargers
>Introduce Behemoths to exclusively replace chargets in 7+ (which need 2 anti-tank)
>Eruptor was actually good on release because it shot airburst shrapnel
>Nerf the fuck out of it
>Just as a bonus change the shrapnel prefers going backwards to kill you
>Alt-tabbing just used to crash the game if you did it during a loading screen
>Flamethrower + incel breaker is one of the few weapons that can kill chargers and is great on bug front - nerf the shit out of that
>Autocannon is now the de-facto strongest weapon, and next to be nerfed imminently
Swedes have always been incompetent, at least now they are afraid of nerfing things

Warp bag is best gem in game. Absolutely amazing. Wall? Just warp through. Enemies everywhere. Just warp. Long run. Just warp away. Warp warp warp.

But I have question. Dose tempeture affect laser sentry. Warpback and epoch?

LE EBIC STEAM MONOPOLY!!! XD!!!

gaellivare is in play
try not to get raped by volcano rocks too much

>>531688703
The throwing knives are completely fucking worthless. They should have just leaned into action movie bullshit and let the knives essentially magnetize and auto-aim to heads. I still don't think that I'd use them, but I think that there could be an argument for it if you could just casually whip them out and kill a couple of devastators/zerkers with some perfect action movie headshots.

There is plenty of room to make things harder. The bots practically deliberately miss their shots against us. But turning weapons into F-tier never use trash isn't the way to try to approach things.

>>531688790
Call in 500kg. 3.45 seconds flight time, 6.75 seconds cooldown.
Call in 500kg. 3.45 seconds flight time. 120 seconds reload.
That's 133.65 seconds. Let's round up to 140 because you aren't doing all that shit perfectly anyway, and each of those 140 seconds is two 500kg bombs.
Most missions are 40 minutes. That's 2,400 seconds. Divide 2,400 by 140 you get 17.whatever, double that because you get two bombs and you get 34.whatever. I don't think you can get 36 anyway, even if you do it frame perfect. 35 maybe.
Some other guy explained the OPS. >>531689416

>>531689769
wrong thread schizo

>>531679737
>>531680041
>>531680693
>>531682057
gucci... your foreskin... (((gucci)))???

>>531689714
I think it was that the shrapnel always went in a certain direction

>>531689769
>every other platform is incompetent, hates their users and actively fights them at every turn
>steam flourishes because of this alone
you don't know what a real monopoly is

>>531689849
Good for making heavy armor not slow as fuck

>>531689714
>Claim autocannon is the pinnacle of balance and what everything is balanced around
That was hilarious. I'm pretty sure that they were just dogshit at the game when they said that (honestly they still are). But that statement shot themselves in the foot because they were too proud to admit that they were wrong and that their so called pinnacle of balance was actually the most powerful support weapon in the game at the time.

>>531689714
They dont play game themselves. If they do. It's sub 7 difficulty.
If they played regularly on 8, 9 and 10. They could see AT. Penetration and mix of chaff and big boys and their relation to difficulty.
Especially against bugs. There is seed in 8 that's harder than some seeds in 10. Because chaff overwhelms you and there is enough big boys to be threat.

>>531688790
>>531689785
so ops is actually objectively worse than 500 kg?
cool

>>531682057
>>531680693
>>531680041
>>531679737
pedro melty

>>531689929
Yes. Later on they randomised it more. Eruptor has gone through changes more than any other gun.
But in the end. Crossbow is peak to point nobody runs it anymore.

>>531689372
Bets that his circle of friends is involved in child grooming and they're trying to bury the discord to hide the evidence?

>>531690076
Before the 60 day patch, back when 500kg just nuked things in a small cone above it, they used to be vaguely equivalent.

>>531689372
>I HAVE A VAGINA!!!!!!!!!

>>531678427
I was ignorant to how fucking funny it is when you have it
https://files.catbox.moe/obaopa.mp4

I'm sorry but the Warp pack is clearly OP as fuck and needs a serious cooldown reduction

>>531690076
Yes. But you have to consider other eagles too. If you like strafing run. Now you need to considering those. Making 500kg down time longer.
Also there is that strangeness with how explosions from gems work. If you have noticed with biletitans and factory striders. If you land 500kg on their body. It dosent kill them. But if you land it on ground under them. It kills them.
Becouse explosions are cones upward from explosive. If you land on body. Most of explosions goes away from enemy. Ops on other hand function slightly differently because how demo force and damage radius works. Making it slightly more throw and forget.

>>531689750
>>531689849
This thing alone makes this warbond join in the S tier bonds like Democratic Demolition and Urban Legends.

>>531690548
*warppacks away from nerf*

>>531686262
>How hard would it be to just apply some kind of buff within a radius around it?
MMOs and ASSFAGGOTS set up retarded expectations for meme weapons.
"why doesn't this pointy stick work like a support AOE?" "Why aren't I a getting a massive buff when I try to melee a shield dev?"

>>531690521
>estimulante

>>531690548
Not really

>>531690631
Yup. Mobility it allows is insane. Fact that you can warp through walls and fast cd make it so powerful.
Last game I cleared 8 objectives alone with it. Just warp in and out. Rest of group didn't do anything. Before warp back. This would have been failed mission party. With it. Easy win.

>check thread during prime American hour
>all good takes, chill anons, good bants
>check thread during prime Europoid hour
>all shit takes, troons, browns, jeets, russians,
thirdworlders, contrarians, soloniggers, non-stop shit flinging, rage baits, gooners

>>531690838
fuck you bloody

>>531686262
Nah. Give it 30sec cd. Now you can use hellpods as weapon. It's also major buff to hellpod boosters.
Imagine kino of killing biletitan with flag hellpod. And flag pops out from it's corpse

>>531690548
It’s fine since it always have fixed distance when teleporting and you can’t teleport on top of buildings unlike jump packs that can be used to scale rocks, buildings and can traverse even larger distance if used correctly.

>>531690937
They should make the hellpod embed into big enemies but only for the flag

>You cant warp into heavies

Swedes hates fun

>>531691092
>roundabout vore

>>531684730
Projectile size is incorrect vs visual too. You notice it very easily in mega city. Where it blows mid air when firing from alleys and such. Becouse projectile hits corners and such suposed.
Fixing spread, projectile size and visual que for "perfect" charge is enough.

>scout armour so you know where everything is
>warp pack so you can be where you need to be at all times
This combo feels busted

>You can open up containers with warp pack
>You can’t open up containers with Epoch

What in sam hell is going on with swedish codings

I will say something that will break /hdg/ mind. The Warp Pack are a crutch and you're a shitter for using it

>cant use warp when prone
>climbing takes over warp
My only issues with warp. But I don't expect them to change them

>>531691329
ESL retard

>>531691260
They copied plasma punisher projectiles. That's why spread. Demo force and projectile size are all messed up
>>531691329
Don't care. I'm having fun

bots found the plasma sock

>>531691408
I'm Swiss

How would YOU rework this?

>>531691539
infinite shots of explosive rounds, give it a cooldown seperate for each player.

>>531691539
Buff EMS and Smoke to actually be worth putting into the thing.

>>531691539
Guaranteed 2 of either high explosive or mini nuke.

Apparently they're deleting iron-faggot leak discord.

Alexus didn't seem to love my idea of buffing the firebomb hellpods by making them all have the explosion of a ultimatum mininuke but at least the idea exists in his head now. I don't think firebomb hellpods will ever become a useful booster as long as it's more dangerous to the player than to the enemy and it doesn't feel very useful to throw on enemies. If that booster ever becomes insanely horrible/awesome, you can blame it on me.

>>531691494
>Swiss
So moortuguese

>>531691771
but I thought all of those coincidentally completely correct leaks were le fake? why would Arrowhead be worried about fake leaks that are fake? anons??

>>531691858
hes called so much shit for over a year at this point anons calling his shit fake are shitposting, at worst the texturing/renders he does is fake but those things do exist in the game in some form.

>>531691858
There's so many leaks from him that actually ended up in game, i don't know how people can say he's posting fake stuff kek. Sure, not EVERYTHING he leaked is in game (yet) but there's more than enough to believe he's not just making shit up.

>>531691092
Yeah that took a little to get used to. Slightly disappointed but not very, it still feels extremely good and that seems like a reasonable downside.

>>531689714
>Claim autocannon is the pinnacle of balance and what everything is balanced around
>/hdg/ during that time was dicksucking the autocannon so hard the barrel fell off
Could it be... ACucks were AH employees all along?

>>531691771
The other, older leak Discord has been much more useful and way more trustworthy with one-tenth of the drama and aggresive discordtroonism, since most people who joined back in the day were genuinely interested instead of being herded in by Ironshitter's e-celebism.

>>531692176
They say they're gonna close ALL leak discords. Not sure if its true or not. I could see them being mad at people leaking their shit before release every single time.

>>531692269
OK can just use other avenues that they can't do anything about
Discord is such a dogshit medium for posting leaks anyways
The thread interface is some of the worst UI I've ever seen

So, did some troons groom kids? Take your bets.

>swede figures out how to make textures really shiny
>every cape is now shiny, forever

>>531692437
>run a discord server that posts leaks
>get mad people leak the leaks
like a thief getting mad that somebody stole the bike he stole

>>531692269
Then people will move somewhere else.
For one, I welcome all leakers to 4chan. The general is fucked up gay faggotry only 95% of the time, I'm sure they'll adapt.

>>531692437
for it to be a bet there has to be some chance of it not occurring

>>531691494
so an Albanian got it

>>531692269
>>531692437
It's only IronS1ghts because he went full retard and had been selling paid super-secret leak access. Leaking is already questionable and pisses off developers but profiting from it is actually scummy.

>>531692680
Almost certainly because of that

It's nuked. Rest in piss Ironfaggot you will not be missed.

>add a reward mechanic to the epoch for max charging it without blowing yourself up
ok
>add a punishment mechanic to the epoch for not hitting the exact sweet spot when your charge hits 100% by fucking with your spread if you are under or over it
????
alexus did this

>>531692680
>It's only IronS1ghts because he went full retard and had been selling paid super-secret leak access.
Really? Jesus christ what a faggot.

>>531692807
the real fuck you is that you waste a shot if you get ragdolled mid-charge

>>531692809
The reason his Discord went full retard after the leaked Illuminate cult video (posted in these parts as grok.webm and sometimes grok2.webm) was because someone recorded it off him showing it live to the paid subscribers on Discord.

>>531691831
>>531692650
you are not white

>>531693094
struck a nerve gucci?

>>531693091
Oh so thats why it was a shitshow and people started saying it was fake.

>niggersights meltdown and implosion
love to see it
fake it til you make it... or get deplatformed
lol

>retardsights thought he could leak all that shit and get away with it
>while also allegedly making people pay for them
I hope he likes surstromming

>>531693446
>>531693404
>>531693267
Oh my god no one gives a flying fuck about your stupid tranny shit shut the fuck up

>>531691494
You're Somali.

>>531692680
Depends on what kinds of leaks. If it's just datamining the game files that are given to us when we install the game, then they really have no right to be mad, if they don't want those things "leaked" then they just shouldn't include them in the release build. Though I really doubt that this is the type of person to somehow obtain exclusive access to game files that the rest of us can't, it's far more likely that they want to feel like a super special snowflake for being able to unpack game files, and others already can do the same thing or it's easy to learn how.

>wait, i can make money by simply showing someone else's work to a bunch of retards?
>surely nothing bad could happen
>>531693509
Yeah, lets go back to baiting each others about the state of the warbond, much more interesting.

>>531693554
He made a tool to actually PLAY the datamined content on live servers. The new Illuminate cult units were fully playable. Cyberstan invasion with bot cities? People were doing that weeks ago before it came out this tuesday.

The new warbond armor is looking fire af no cap

>>531693704
Man i fucking despite how they completely changed the armor style in halo 4.
Shit bait tho

>>531691539
Explosive rounds only but make it like the orbital defense cannon where you can manually aim it and also more ammo

Before the discord dies can I get the SC Arrow mod

>>531693802
They changed fucking everything for the worse in 4 especially elites then 5 doubled down on it

Halo ended with Reach and it'll never be good ever again

>>531693589
to be fair, he probably did most the work to make the 'leaks' look real. I mean all he had to go on was some text strings and models from over a year ago, and he managed to bait thousands of retards into following him, that takes genuine effort. Does his effort add value to anything other than his affiliate adbux? no. Is he out of stuff to leak because AH stopped putting stuff in the game files 9 months in advance? yes

>>531693982
What gave it away?
Was it 4 being dogshit while youtubers said it "was a fresh take"
Maybe it was 5 being even worse with those same youtube retards saying "some like halo 3, some like halo 4, five is a good balance"
Or maybe it was inifitne having no actual gameplay before release only for it to be.... the dogshit it was. I don't even have some pathetic insult for how sad that game was.

Fuck me halo 3 was peak, I loved reach even more, then it died.

fuck's going on at aurora bay

>>531694481
Incel corp mobilization.

>>531694481
Communism

>>531694481
We're getting fire bots in the cities.

>Flamer and Warp
Holy shit this is the most fun I've ever had in this game, the rapid movement while never needing to stop firing is awesome

>>531693509
fuck off and kill yourself, you don't get to be the arbiter of what people care about

Why is strategem input delay back? it affects consoles like hellbomb now. saw last input run yellow and it didnt activate

>>531694928
He's going to start spamming scat porn again if you insult our holy messiah irons1ght

>>531692064
AC was the strongest support weapon. AH was retarded with their initial claim and was too proud to lose face by nerfing the weapon after claiming that it was perfect.

>>531694481
Mobilization. They're going to throw everything they've got at gayleevare

>>531693554
Maybe he actually had a server emulator of some kind. Essentially halfway to pirated Helldivers, I guess.
That being said he often took very barebones shit, gave it a cosmetic touch-up and said it was leaked.
See his leaked Strider, the textures don't match because he had fake ones made.

>>531694809
the game is a high power shotgun and melee away from having a really fun playstyle with just the warp pack

>>531693982
>we hired people who hate halo
Yeah, i could tell.

>>531695136
A good AoE melee weapon would be an absolutely flawless addition

>>531693589
>>531694928
Oh my god no one CARES that you can't get a job or gf and make discord your life go spam your tranny advertisement somewhere else

>>531695136
variable in volley mode is a 7 round 595 damage slug shotgun

>>531691771
>"NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! YOU CANT JUST TELL ME TO STOP RUINING ALL THE SURPRISES NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

>>531695514
Chainsaw(sword?) support is likely. It had an icon in files for looooongest time, just like Epoch.
Personally I'd like an energy sword two-handed primary but that'd probably be too kino for Swede.

>>531695042
>They're going to throw everything they've got at gayleevare
It's already unwinnable because retards didn't go for Oasis.

>>531695561
H-how did you know anon

>>531695684
wonderwall is overrated

>>531690246
The server just got deleted and now the only one left is the official reddit one. Guy was completely silent until the grooming thing was mentioned. Unironically might be a grooming thing

>>531695640
too unwieldy for the kind of snap shot action you'd want to get into
a support weapon shotgun that had AP4, though, that I could see not caring about the ergo on

>>531695016
don't threaten me with a good time

>>531695889
There are at least two leak discords left. Also obviously the /hdg/ trooncord.

>>531695640
The kind of power we require isn't the kind that's limited to the primary slot. We need a rightfully juiced shotgun strategem.

Its over. Oasis has fallen. Billions must dive.

>>531695136
Support shotgun with heavy pen when? Fuckyou spread and high drop off why not.

>>531693982
>Halo ended with Reach and it'll never be good ever again
https://files.catbox.moe/x8g8ls.mp4

>>531696128
why though
mos are rigged anyway

>>531695684
>squiddiving
Miss me with that shit. Maybe next time, Joel should put his MO sideshow on a bug planet, the thinking man's faction of choice.

>Starfield if it was good
At least i look sick as fuck.

>>531696426
>Starfield
Uuuhhhh, no. Think again sweaty. Concord won, chuds lost.

>>531696547
>red flag

>>531696128
DON'T LOOK BACK IN ANGER

>>531691539
>replace smoke with gas
>a lot more shells lying around
>ability to load more when the objective is completed
thats all it needs

>>531696547
Please don't post anything from that dead game ever again

>>531679343
I want pouncer to pounce on my cock cowgirl style.

>>531696707
a lower cooldown between shots would also be nice

>>531691539
An infinite ammo rack, allowing you to keep loading it so 1/2 people could stay on it and give the other 2/3 players an infinite supply of artillery, turn it into a potential long term objective you hold with turrets and stuff. Why not it would be fun.

>>531696707
Damn, those are actually really good ideas.
>ability to load more when the objective is completed
I didn't even know I wanted this until now.

>>531696315
it's amazing how squids being so irredeemably shit has made me enjoy playing bugs again

>>531685203
woooooooooooooooooow

>>531696707
Damn you actually made this shit useful. ARROWHEAD HIRE THIS MAN

You Epoch fans just wait until the bots figure out how to armor themselves with container doors and bugs with whatever variety of sticky stuff they form bug holes with.

>>531696547
what the FUCK is that thing?

>>531696707
>>ability to load more when the objective is completed
I don't want retarded teammates doubling back to go fill the thing every five minutes. Sorry, no.

Just make the thing spawn with "oops, all nuclear warheads!" and call it a day.

>>531697108
Lower the cooldown between shots and it becomes a game of three people turning the map into a crater while the other loads 40 rounds into the massive gun.

>>531697108
can't carry the mission while you're down 1 or 2 retarded useless teammates?

You can teleport out of the ship after it takes off

>>531697108
>i am too shit at the game and i need my teammates to be top form and carrying me really hard
opinion discarded

>>531697108
sounds like a you problem, if they want to load the gun then by all means let them do it

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242428852863/

Autistic themed run elemental power ranger lobby:
Each person picks a different element and equips it in every weapon/grenade/strat slot. Ideally fire guy armor is red/orange, gas green etc. but pick whatever is most appropriate /fa/. If there's not enough to complete the loadout (i.e. no gas primary) then try to pick something elemental that kind of fits. Probably run 1 mission of each faction and people can change roles between

Fire diver:
>torcher, crisper, incendiary
>orb nap, eagle nap, flamethrower, flame sentry, incen mines

Arc diver:
>blitzer, stun lance/baton, arc nades/urchins(lol)
>arc thrower, arc GL, arc dog, tesla tower, ems?

Gas diver:
>???, stim pistol?, gas nades
>sterilizer, gas dog, orbital gas, >tfw no eagle gas, gas mines

Light diver:
>scythe, dagger, flashbangs?
>orb laser, LC, lasdog, laser sentry

Plasma/Force Field diver:
>scorcher/purifier/plas punisher, loyalist, ??
>epoch, warp pack, bubble pack, shield relay, directional shield, quasar

bonus round
Wind diver: all explosives, minimal projectile dmg
>xbow, ultimatum/gp, HE/dynamite/impact/seeker
>orbital barrages, 500kg, airburst/gl, hellbomb, etc.

Metal diver: inverse to above, only pierce dmg nothing explosive. probably most boring since most guns fit this and it's just normal diving but for example:
>constitution, saber/axe, throwing knives
>railcannon, railgun, eagle cluster, airburst, etc.

Turbo memelords can probably fit smoke somewhere in one of those

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242428852863/

>>531688703
I joined the official discord just to check if this this is true and now I want to curbstomp this nigger.

>531697383
thank you reddit

>>531697546
but how can a throwing knife compete with thermite?

>>531696547
We need a concord warbond just for the meme

Why can't the in-game menu be this good?

>>531697516
2/4

>>531697546
DEI hire

>>531697583
It can't. His cop out is "haha it's there just for the maymays". Aliens are walking the streets of planets around the galaxy and this nigger can't stand the idea of throwing knives being useful because it would be U N R E A L I S T I C.

>>531697546
>"Hey yeah so I just want throwing knives to be go-
>"yOu WAnT iT tO bE as GOod aS TheRmITe?!"

>>531697052
Epoch cannot break chain link fences. It unironically would be defeated by cope cages.

>>531697516
3/4

>>531691539
Objective is not to find ammo. It's yo find seaf soldiers to man it. Then activate it. After that you have endless ammount of uses

>>531697863
i'm tired of this realism shit, why does it only seem to apply for things that suck ass and not cool shit
you don't even have to bend the rules for knives to not suck just make them fly straight and have a predictable arc i'm sure trained soldiers who are given throwing knives would have a bit of fucking training with them

>>531697516
4

>>531697280
>>531697458
>>531697476
support sissies getting uppity
no, I will not let you sit on the other side of the map playing the shell carrying minigame

>>531697863
>uh oh bros the realism police are gonna come for us if we keep acting out

>>531698249
Thats fine, its not a decision you get to make
>*kicks you*
>captcha: J3WWJ

>>531698348
I exclusively host my own games, and even then, what does it matter. You just put that person in a perfectly pristine lobby where nothing has changed. They wait a few seconds and it fills back up with players. All you did was lose your "spotter" who was actually playing the game.

d10 any steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242429214651/76561198066017633

>>531697383
Really? That's pretty silly

>>531697863
>>531697924
He should be fired and blacklisted from the industry. Unfortunately Swedish labor laws probably protect him unless he rapes and murders someone, and even then they'd probably put him in house arrest for 3 days a week or some shit.

Throwing knives in action movies are way more effective than they are in real life. The protagonist always has supernatural aim with the things. You can lean into that since the game is more action movie than realism simulator. Here's how to fix the throwing knife.
>aiming is mechanically like the warrant, except hide the lockon overlay for muh immersion and have the lockon magnetize your attacks to headshots.
>your helldiver can now leverage headshot knives both for quiet sneaking and action movie excitement.
>you may need to tune knife supply and damage values after giving the weapon the action movie treatment
>the thermite is honestly probably still better, but at least knives now have a niche beyond being a useless novelty.

>>531696650
I never noticed that. What the fuck is there a flag for?

>>531698249
Why didn't you reply to me :(

Epoch bros, we're saved.

>>531698447
>i lose a shitter and he fucks off to do his own thing
how is that my loss? if you want to rule over a game then by all means let me help you with that

You know what I want?
I want a rifle version of this. Slightly better heat capacity, better aiming, more accuracy, slightly more oomph.
I keep using this baby because it can generally pick off everything that survives a full magazine of a carbine or breaker and it can even deal with devastators at range.
Hell, why not give the rifle version an optional chargeup so it's like a middleground between the talon and the quasar cannon.

>>531698730
Logically these things would exist in the weapon itself. But arrowheads thinks soldiers killing themselves is peak comedy

>>531688856
Obligatory

>>531698807
Well, yeah. The worst thing is that the same mechanic already exists in the railgun and it does have a (slightly) better sound indicator built in. So epoch is just dangerous for the memes.

>>531698795
That would be pretty cool.

>>531696547
Literally every single design in this game was unfiltered boiling liquid shit. How is that even possible? You cannot make character designs this bad intentionally, it has to be genuine thats the magic of it

>>531698763
>how is that my loss?
he was carrying you
>nuh uh
okay, keep playing cookie clicker over there, let those shells have it, champ

again, nothing you do will ever affect me, stay mad lol

>>531698539
3/4

>>531698730
does this solve the issue where if there's more than 3 sounds happening at the same time I can't hear a fucking thing?

>>531699017
>he was carrying you
>backseat gaymer
>carrying anyone
lol
lmao even
>u-u lost!!!
riveting rebuttal

>>531699093
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVz5K_We41U
I think it should. The mod comes in variants and the high pitch version seems easy to track.. Didn't test it myself yet, I'm wageslaving.

>>531698795
>>531698957
that WOULD be pretty cool
so it's never going to happen

>>531699280
baller, going to try this out and report back

>>531699173
you're arguing for the right to fulfill a role where you afk alone at the artillery POI, occasionally stirred by a 0/5 into lugging some shells around

yeah, you lost, but it was before this conversation ever happened

>>531698795
Too kino for swiggers.

>>531698795
I think this would infringe on Arrowhead's philosophy of medium pen weapons having more limited ammunition.
That said it would be fucking awesome I love lasers just don't make it ugly like the Sickle.

>>531699280
>first and second warning beep happens when the shot still isn't fully charged
>shot is only charged after the third beep
>There is only 1 more beep before you explode, which happens the millisecond the 4th and final beep ends
this is not helpful

>>531697546
Make throwing knives apply a bleed effect and let me pick them up. There you go, I made them more fun without ruining your whole realism cope, Alexus.

>>531699562
So there's 4 beeps and you shoot on the 3rd? Sounds fine to me.

>>531699562
its incredibly helpful

>>531688856
Nobody complains about light pen. But light peniggers complain about medium pen.

>>531699562
You are wrong.

>>531696158
flak cannon my beloved...

>>531699527
>sickle
>ugly
I think you mean the scythe. That thing looks goofy as fuck.
>less ammo
The talon already has abyssmal ammo unless you shoot it sparingly, so I suspect theyd just give you a ton of spare heatsinks and expect you to go through them like normal magazines. Unless you have the range between you and the enemy to take your time, as Marksman weapons should

>>531698581
all they need to do is make the knife fly like it isn't being thrown by a sissy twink leandiver
i've seen children throw cutlery at higher speeds than the emaciated stim addict homos we play as

I think throwing knife is pretty funny, because it's like.
"why does the throwing knife do more than my fucking lance support weapon?"

>play Flak autocannon
>Be told this gun can fleshmobs in 3 shots
>The Flak explodes prematurely every time
>Takes 6-7 shots on the regular
Explain this piece of shit weapon. Eruptor is an easy 3 shot but autocannon is a sack of shit.

>>531700209
Use the airburst launcher instead and set the fuse to the alternate type.

>>531699904
No I meant the sickle. It really doesn't need that enormous stock that clips into your arm, nor the weird scaffolding under the barrel. I much preferred the design it had in HD1.
Scythe looks sleek, shame it's not very good.

>>531700209
It has never taken me more than three shots to kill a fleshmob with the AC

I tried using HD2d arsenal and my game won't run with mods. I'm not sure if anyone else is having this issue. It gives a critical error. I wanna use the arrow mod cause I need SCs

>>531700315
It's a fallout reference

>>531700209
you might be fusing off of trash voteless or other intervening targets, the solution for which would be mow them down first or to set your aim higher up on the fleshmob and hope it doesn't do that

>Struggling on the bot front
>Listen to a Youtuber
>"Huh, maybe I should take the Diligence and focus on getting headshots like he suggests"
>Get my ass beat even harder
Fuck it back to magdumping and getting the occasional headshot on accident

>>531700537
if you're struggling with devs you can always just shoot their toes with the dominator or bring the plasma punisher to keep them stunlocked

>>531700457
Maybe that's why it's so jarring to me. Fallout's jank tech clashes with the sleek Helldivers aesthetic. I'd accept the underbarrel rail thingy, but that stock needs to go.

>>531700537
Controla playa?
If you're getting your ass handed to you just bring a sentry or two for the aditional firepower, you can't go wrong with a AC and/or Roctet sentry

>>531699562
it's great and you are bad

>>531700629
Yeah I just wanted to focus on getting good with headshots, the Diligence is so stable but it doesn't stagger and they tend to run at me

>replacing the retarded base audio with functional audio mods
>can actually hear shit now

>>531700537
Bots are honestly just a matter of fire power and chaff clear. Their chaff is usually more spread out than bugs, so you need something that will target them individually. (usually sentries or dogs). Cluster and other WIDE width strategems like even napalm orbital will kill a wide amount of them.

If you can kill the heavies, you just need to build to counter the chaff. Explosives also fuck devs up.

>>531700537
just take a AR with a lot of ammo per mag and tap fire their heads, once you get the hang of that you can start to get fancy with the Diligence

>>531700932
the enemy audio mods are incredible. the most mindboggling thing about them is that it's not new sounds made by the modder, they were all already there and he just adjusted the volume mixing.
also the better gun audio mod is downright orgasmic.

>>531700758
>diligence doesn't stagger
Huh I thought it did. Take the jar or the slugger then.

>>531700932
>use the mod that gives the Epoch a warning sound you can actually hear
>it becomes ten times better (unless it misses)

>>531700758
>>531701163
The lack of stagger is actually better for headshots since it doesn't send them reeling after every shot and instead lets you just shoot again.

>Teleporting through the vault door doesnt let you pick up items on the shelf unless the doors are open
Did they put out a hotfix?

>>531700629
>toes
devastator legs are AP2, go for the unarmored stomach or groin. If you're overwhelmed by heavy devastators, know that their backpack is AP2 and fatal. And the gun arms are unarmored and can be shot off easily, same with rocket devs' rocket pod.

>>531697516
>meme lobby
3/4 bots now

>>531701357
One of those retards on discord literally said that picking up items without opening the door was intentional. Did they fuck it back up?

>>531701357
.webm or fake news

>>531700697
It just looks like shit to be honest. HD1 looking like a laser G11 is kino. HD2 guns are at their best when it uses real guns combined with other stuff. The amendent being a M14 and FG42 mag is very nice.

is epoch glitched? i charge it up and fire at the right time but the plasma goes nowhere near the middle of the reticle

>>531701357
>>531701517
ONONONONONONONONONONO FARMERBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

>>531701124
Which one? The enemy audio guy also made their own weapon sound mod but heard it sounds like dogshit.

>>531701425
dominator two shots the legs and hips, and unlike the stomach those aren't completely obscured by a heavy devastators shield

>>531701749
yeah, known issue.

>>531701749
Yes

>>531696158
This. I want my Alloy Cannon.

>>531700209
You have to directly hit the Fleshmob with the flak rounds. Get a clean angle on it with no intervening Voteless, and it dies in 4 shots or less. It's just as strong against Overseers, two shots to kill and three shots max to kill a Warp Ship once you get a bead on the door.

>>531700537
Purifier. It's that simple. Or barring that, Loyalist.

>>531701357
>>531701517
It's been this way forever, bunker loot can't be grabbed unless the door is open. People before tried backing into it with an Exosuit and disembarking, and it didn't work then.

>>531701758
>farmers with the latest warbond
bruh

>>531701749
150 spread
reprimand had 50 at its worse

>>531701749
Leading theory is that the swigger A-team cooked up years of content to be drip fed and the Epoch's insane spray values are pre-launch values.

The SC farm is on

steam://joinlobby/553850/109775242432266790/76561198003461754

>>531701898
>It's been this way forever
Yea it has been, but not anymore. They changed it when they dropped the warp pack. Somebody asked them about it on discord and they said that using the pack to get the loot inside a bunker is intentional.

>>531701948
Theory implies there's evidence to back up the claim.

>>531697516
3/4 themed lobby starting in 5

i love playing in bot megacities because its a good environment and makes it so much better than LE BIG PLAINS XD
i hate playing in bot megacities because SEAFies keep killing me

We're never getting that medium siege ready, are we?

>>531701749
https://arrowhead.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/15916898652700--HELLDIVERS-2-Known-Issues

>>531701980
Post a source please.

>>531702125
Medium Reinforced Epaulettes has the fast reload perk.

>>531679070
The spread value is just the tip of the iceberg.

800 damage at its maximum, considering the danger you're putting yourself under, isn't worth it.

>>531702350
>800 damage at its maximum,
I thought it was 1000

>https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/4664
Reminder to use the new mod manager. This one has better UI and more convenient features.

>>531697516
still 3/4 btw

>>531701998
Schizo intuition is evidence

>truth enforcers
>borderline justice
>force of law
which one should i get?

>>531702431
arsenalSHIT keeps crashing for me
shan't be using it

>>531702431
buy an ad

>>531702485
>The Reprimand Warbond
>The Hover Pack Warbond
>The De-Escalator Warbond
These are all "I have thousands of SC and nothing else to spend it on" territory. So I hope you're in that camp. There are much better Warbonds you could be buying, namely the new one. The Variable, Arc Grenades and Warp Pack are all good.

How are so many niggers already running around with the warp pack, it takes like 500 medals to get there and you can only stockpile 250. Are they all cheating? Or how do you grind 250 medals in a few hours?

>>531702318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=marlgW1rqTUf

>>531702654
erad/blitz poop socking ig

>>531702654
play above d4

Wait, is the Halt actually good? It shreds through those hiveguards upfront even at a distance and it can deal with bots unlike other shotguns.
The fuck?

>>531702654
m8, if you play every day, you'd have had 250 medals before the Warbond even dropped. Play on Diff10 and that's what 35/40 medals per 3 missions? Not counting medals found in missions. Plus your daily.

>>531702742
Yea halt is great. It's also my go to vs Predator Strain, especially with Siege Ready.

>>531702635
talon and deadeye are more useful than hoverpack

Now the armor FINALLY clicked on me

>>531702798
It's 36 per D10 operation, maybe more if you go after pois.
But still, an entire operation is well over an hour of playtime.

>>531702431
Been using it since I picked up the game, it's great. Though I wish it could auto-update mods like Nexusmods' own mod manager (which doesn't work for HD2).

>>531701357
just tested and works on my machine still
i used mech and not the warp pack

>>531702886
Both are side-grades to already existing items and not worth focusing on.

>>531702431
Nah, I'll keep restarting the old piece of shit to update my mod list.

>>531703009
talon is a superior verdict and deadeye is a superior dominator

>>531702654
2 words: Squids Blitz

Grab all the arty you have, grab thermite and ultimatum and use light medic armor Rush ships, throw arties and destroy as much as you can while also killing yourself. You can finish the mission under 3 minutes and with loading, thats about 4 minutes for 9 medals per mission.

>>531702687
Doesn't work on megacity bunkers.

>>531703035
Verdict actually sends the bullet to where you point it.

>>531702742
If it was customizable with a choke, it would probably be the best weapon against anything up to medium chaff at up to medium range. Baby would probably outclass the carbine.

>>531703112
skill issue

>>531703035
Deadeye needs the siege ready crutch for compensate for it's awful reload rate, also ADS is broken on it

>>531703151
I actually do prefer Talon at the moment but I'm not gonna pretend it's a direct upgrade to the Verdict.

>>531703035
>talon is a superior verdict
Talon doesn't even fulfil the same role as the Verdict. They're used in entirely different ways.

>Talon is for people who have a primary with shit range
>Verdict is for people who have a primary with shit ergo/can't be fired close range

>>531701357
>>531701898
Bro? Alex sissy himself said that now you can grab stuff behind bunkers alone if you have the warp pack.

Hell I just popped into a bunker on a warp pack 10 minutes ago

>>531703009
>>The De-Escalator Warbond
>deadeye
>sidegrade
to what? It outdamages every other marksman rifle. it is slow, for sure, but it takes down anything with a headshot.

>>531703112
sway is not the same thing as spread and the talon and verdict both have the same 1.2 sway rating.
as for spread, verdict has 8 and talon has 10, a virtually imperceptible difference

>>531703238
The DCS does the same thing.

why does the dominator even still exist at this point?

>>531703226
I use the Talon exclusively to clear bot mines and shoot scout striders in the dick.

Why the fuck does the game grinds to a halt when dropping into a mission? this never happened before

>>531702742
>retard finally stops using "LE METAX DD XBOW ONLY META TAKE YUTBER APPROVD" loadout
>wow, this game has fun weapons????!?!?!?!
insane

>>531703491
During the load section? No idea. Started happening after the last update.

>>531703491
swedish rat nest code

>>531703491
just new patch things

>>531703550
yeah, 2 seconds after swapping from the view of the super destroyer, at first i thought it was the SC mod since its the only thing i had but after purging it it still does that

>>531703529
Not gonna lie. I used RR and crosbow for long time. i used them until i gut good. then i started to use everything else

>>531698539
good game, lots of giggles

>>531703385
at one point they thought they were giving you a lot with that gun
hell, they even scaled it back from 300 damage to 275
>whoopsy guys, it's OVERPERFORMING a bit too much with that extra 8% damage ;(

>I no longer have to herd retarded pubbies into opening bunkers with me
That warppack is never going off my back

>>531702742
always has been, its only limited by its low capacity but thats moot when you can shoot-reload-shoot

>>531703759
>hell, they even scaled it back from 300 damage to 275
and that changed exactly one breakpoint of any significance

>>531703759
The damage could never overcome the abysmal spread and bullet velocity
>but it doesn't have damage fall off!
so what, that doesn't matter if it doesn't hit what you're aiming at

>>531703491
>Gem input delay
>crash when closing game
>load screen freeze
Nice patch

>>531702742
It's good, it's just annoying that you have to futz around with keybinds to properly use its ammo switching mechanic

my only complaint so far with the warp pack is that while it can telefrag a heavy devastator, it cannot telefrag a brood commander without instantly killing you
how the fuck are those units not equivalent, what the FUCK do you mean, Arrowhead?

>>531704085
because brood commanders are large units and devastators are small units. try booping into a scout strider. not even a rocket strider, a scout strider.

>>531704172
the result is that there's nothing worth telefragging on bugs, though
warriors die to fucking light pen to the head, who cares, if it works on hiveguards who cares, those things just afk while the rest of the bugs die
can it telefrag overseers? if not the telefrag useless on two out of three factions

>>531704085
Brood commanders are too thick and juicy

>>531704263
look at your radar. large enemies are big dots, small enemies are small dots

>>531704085
because they only consider enemies either light or heavy, and brood/alpha commanders fall on the heavy side
if they were smart they'd make a medium category for those types of enemies but considering the spaghetti code they use they probably wouldn't be able to without breaking half the game

>>531703385
People think bolters are cool, and people with peak physique want to have something to use that benefits from their ergo.

Who else uses the variable to fast travel with heavy armor? Honestly get some disgusting range and mobility with this thing.

>>531702485
I'd say they're all about the same.

Truth Enforcers has the Reprimand, Unflinching armor and Loyalist. Dead Sprint also used to be considered a top tier booster.
Borderline Justice's stuff is all great except for the armor. The Deadeye is the best marksman rifle in the game bar none, the Talon is a very strong sidearm that fills its role admirably, the Hover Pack is great fun and the Dynamite is a great chaff clearer.
Force of Law is perhaps the weakest one, but I still like it. The Pacifier is very strong against the Predator Strain, the De-Escalator is very good fun, and the Urchin recently got a buff.

>>531704825
Dead sprint is still very strong on ayys with heavy armor. Not stopping when getting hit is massive against voteless.

>>531704085
See big dots? Dont warp into them. Small dots? Telefrag them into mush

>>531695684
>release bot megacities and give bots a new unit to fight
>bots feel like a finished faction and allow a variety of loadout choices
>add a secondary MO objective to the squids, a half-arsed faction that doesnt feel fun to fight or to shoot
>especially after another MO where squid-diving was seemed mandatory
>"wtf why is nobody squid diving???"
im bad at math but you should be able to solve this one.

>i should be able to play online games without an internet connection
So what happens when Arrowhead pull the plug on HD2? It's a live service game after all. This is why I find Stop Killing Games to be retarded

>>531704674
Variable + Warp Pack is a disgusting mobility combo

>>531705202
>what happens when my house catches on fire? It's very hot after all. This is why I find fire extinguishers to be retarded.

>>531705202
>So what happens when Arrowhead pull the plug on HD2? It's a live service game after all.

When that happens, AH will turn the galactic war into HD1 style with universal resets on wins and loss.

>This is why I find Stop Killing Games to be retarded

SKG doesn't apply on current games, retard. It only applies on future released games. It won't help current games but it'll help future games.

>>531705202
The least they can do is release server binaries so people can self-host a faux "server" for themselves and keep playing, better yet if it can be used to establish unofficial online servers.

>>531705202
>what are private servers
the current SKG hater must to be a crippling zoomer that can't function without playing the hottest slop of the market

>>531705202
Peer to peer connections so that you can still play with your friends?
Having every subfaction and planet type playable even if the Galactic War doesn't work anymore?
Functioning servers for whoever decides to stick around even if they stop releasing MOs and new content?

If you spend a bunch of money to play a cool multiplayer game, you shouldn't be forced to "give it back" to the people you bought it from and never be allowed to play it again.

>>531705202
Sir, this is the Copedivers General, /v/ is two streets down.

Anyone feel like thermites aren't good because they're overpowered, they're good due to slight necessity?

>So many city maps fuck over reds
>New enemies like flesh pounds and war striders, a long with tanky enemies like behemoths and factory striders are only reliably killed with thermite
>Squids ships are just throw and forget with thermite
>Devs wonder why everyone uses nothing but thermite.

I dont even like using thermite, but I tend to fall into either-
Thermite
Urchins
Impacts.

And I only warrant the other two when I have something solid for AT. Maybe if the other options performed better they'd be more valuable.

>>531697771
It would be cool if there was a console on your ship where you could view these feeds and the stats. I fucking hate companion apps and sites. I want to view all the information in the actual game.

So, is it smarter to do normal missions for liberation/defense progress, or to focus on megacities?

>>531697771
She gets mating pressed by squids btw the way.

>>531705819
just play the game however you want, the major order is not real

>Defib
>Screen goes black and white
>Audio becomes muffled
Yep, peak cinema. Only a fag would rate this based on usefulness. The experience is worth it.

>>531705202
Patch the game so you can dive on any planet and move saves (your progress, warbonds etc.) to local storage, that's literally all you have to do.
The game is already Peer to Peer, the only reason there are central servers is for galactic war.
Of course, the reason why they implemented central servers isn't for the user, the only thing you lose is the lackluster galactic war, the real reason is to make sure nobody can cheat in their currency for maximum jewing, because making a purchasable currency which obscures a fixed price is way more profitable than making DLCs that get discounts with time and let people know exactly how much everything costs and give you no psychological tricks associated with currency packs giving you some made up increased value.

Not only did you not actually read anything about SKG, you can't even conceptualize how a P2P game relying on central servers purely out of greed can function just on the fucking P2P aspect.
This is why I find you retarded.

>>531706002
While correct, that doesn't answer my question.

>>531705202
>piratesoftware is tired from not writing for his game for 8 years and getting shit on because he was just qa and didn't actually work for blizzard so now he has to spam threads on a lithuanian animation forum

SAD!

>>531702431
Since this patch broke just about everything I actually made a switch, so far it's good. Auto-purge and adding multiple files at once makes it appear much better than HD2MM.

>>531706114
your individual contribution does not matter enough to merit this level of deliberation.

>>531706207
anon, stop talking about random shit if you don't know the answer

>>531706198
>>531702954

>>531702542

I hate war striders. Not because they are OP or something because with any AT and more than 10iq they are easy to kill. it's just that its yet another bot enemy type that AH added that can ragdoll players. why every enemy in this dogshit faction can turn player into fucking pinball.

>>531706329
suck my dick nigger

>>531706318
I understood the answer just fine.

>>531706357
I like them because grenade volleys are kino

>>531705819
Megacities don't add to the main liberation/defense until completed, and they take more work to defend than you get back for liberating/defending them. Normal missions are better.

>>531686136
i've seen this thing completely wiff point blank shots against large targets like hulks it's pretty embarrassing

>>531706357
Yeah, AH really has a weird fetish for taking control from you. These niggas only have ragdoll attacks with relatively low damage.
Also hate them because they make the LC worse by existing, even lasering the leg joint takes like 10 seconds

>>531706418
This, I'd actually like them more if they had an avoidant Ai and just carpet bombed you with nades from behind cover as their main form of attack.

>>531705919
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASED

>>531706693
That's just a bot impaler

>>531705919
Squids get mating pressed by me btw the way.

>>531706357
I only wish they made the grenade machinegun sound louder because it sounds kino when it goes thunk-thunk-thunk-thunk-thunk-thunk-thunk-thunk-thunk and shits out a million grenades. I would have also liked the war strider to have the tiger roar like ED from robo cop

are there enough people awake for D10 bots?

>>531706769
I'd enjoy Impalers a whole lot more if they dropped a rain of tiny exploding spores instead of the jank ass tentacles

Epoch is bad because it is chance-based whether your shot will land or not, alongside requiring edging your wiener for the maximum damage.

Every other support weapon has more consistent results, and constant results that dont fluctuate because today is friday and not morndas, will always be more reliable to bring along on a battlefield, instead of letting your life be in the hands of a random number generator.

The main fixes that I, anon of anon-ville, could imagine for the Epoch, is removing the retarded sway that makes you fire off-target, and add SOME df to the damn thing.

That being said, the swedes must hate the concept of plasma, as a miniature sun seems to be as strong as shooting a seemingly .338 round at something. Except the mini-sun cant break fences, cant blast open containers, and has a hard time hitting headshots on devastators.

Can the weapons in this warbond do some more fucking damage? This is pathetic, why would I ever use these pieces of shit?

>>531707125
Variable cleaves devs and zerks in half with they volley shot.

>>531706983
>the swedes must hate the concept of plasma
yeah. From plasma guns only Purifier is great, and loyalist is ok, everything else is dogshit.

>>531707252
...I like the scorcher

>>531707252
>the warbond weapons are better than the normal free warbond
they're employing hebrew tactics and yet nobody wants to point it out, because you too can pick up 10 pennies worth of money occasionally.

>>531707252
Scorcher is good but that thing inhales ammo to the point that a supply pack is pretty much mandatory
It's fucking retard that we can only carry like 4 extra of these tiny plasma batteries but something like 10 Liberator mags

>>531707176
Wow a whole mag to take out one enemy that usually comes in a pack of 5-8! Thank you Arrowhead!

>>531707252
purifier had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the realm of viability

>>531707395
>whole mag
That's the Total setting. Volley has 7 shots per mag.

illuminate feels scientifically engineered to be as annoying as fucking possible in ways that are not present in the other two factions

>>531706837
>I only wish they made the grenade machinegun sound louder
you're implaying that AH is capable of making audio changes that doesn't make the game worse

>>531707252
>Forgets his Scorcher

So I thought the Total fire mode of the Variable was supposed to destroy a chargers ass in a single shot. In my experience so far it takes two. Is there some sort of sweet spot I need to aim for?

>>531697516
ggs bros those were some real HELLdives

>>531707334
>>531707392
>>531707607
I went overboard with calling scorcher dogshit but as anon said, it's kinda useless without ammo backpack

>>531707640
Yeah, here

>>531707729
I think siege ready is enough, but yeah, the ammo is a problem.

>>531706983
Increase damage to 1000 AT1

Reduce spread

Reduce sway

There it’s fixed

so what's the likelihood we get 60 day patch work

>>531707729
personally i take it over the purifier bc charging shots sucks DICK
honestly disappointed that the epoch is just a scaled up purifier that's barely viable
i mean ffs did they really have to give it a stationary reload ontop of the dogshit ammo econ and gay ass railgun charge shit

>>531707856
*remove spread

>>531707782
my problem with siege ready is that AH still didn't added medium armor with that perk

>>531707760
did you just tell him to aim for the head with an ap2 weapon

Just used my medals to get the new Variable. I THINK IT SUCKS.

>>531707915
>that's barely viable
What the fuck is wrong with you losers, how can you be THIS shit at HD2?

It takes ONE or TWO shots at absolute MAXIMUM to kill ANYTHING in the game with the Epoch. Like holy fuck do you really need everything to be RR levels of broken to be good enough for you? Jesus no wonder this game has gone to shit and D10 is a fucking breeze you fags break under the smallest amount of threat like having to wait a few extra seconds to kill something.

>>531707947
apply loaded and cocked (hehe, cock) weapon to your head, pull trigger (safety always off)

I'm telling xer to kill zerself, idiot.

>>531708017
TRUTH NVKE, I also think the Variable sucks. Need ergo buff

>>531707465
I made a mistake on that part and I'll admit that. I still think for the damage you're much better off with the other light pen rifles.

>>531708048
that's not even the right way to shoot yourself dipshit

>>531707760
Damn bro that's not very nice, I was just asking a simple question.

Variable should be medium pen

>>531708238
.t console player

>>531708047
yea lemme just jerk my shit to the edge every time i wanna kill something
better take a knee every 3 shots too
it's gay
I DUN LIKE THIS WEAPON
however i am a plasma caster fag and i WILL run it every game bc it looks cool

>>531708238
it should be medium pen only when you change it to volley and total

>>531703305
I thought the dcs needs two taps on overseer heads

>>531708017
The alternate firing modes have some usage in specific scenarios, otherwise, its just a liberator with some extra ammo
300 RPM makes no sense, the default RPM is meh, and the maximum feels like it shouldve been the default.
The RPM also gets reset each time you respawn, same issue the Tendie-rizer has.

If you want the Liberator that can act like a pseudo-shotgun, its fine. And, well, not having to do a complete tactical reload, since you just shove the magazine into the gun and call it a day.

>>531708361
Lower the difficulty. You're not made for D10.

From what i've tested, the Epoch will destroy a Factory Strider if you hit 4 fully charged shots in the eye / that little slit where the eye is. For some reason it doesn't get any hitmarkers if it doesn't directly impact that zone.

>>531708238
attaching a frog or chad image to your post wont make your dogshit opinion any better

Variable should be medium pen

>>531708373
correct

Live service games should actually die out so you poor, lost souls are finally released from the swedish shenanigans and torture.

>>531708624
attaching an image of your credit card or bank information wont make your dogshit opinion any better

>>531708624
if the caliber was higher the total shot would rip your arm off

>>531708504
sorry anon
the buffies won
we're railing alexus every night and your version of helldivers is dead forever
even bumbling retards like me get out of d10s with only like 2-3 deaths nowadays

>>531707252
the punisher is goated though

>>531708238
>>531708624
attaching a my parents being proud of me image wont make your dogshit opinion any better

>>531708719
HD2 is actually the peak example of a good live service game.
>Can grind premium currency in-game
>Half the content is just free updates, the other half is paid DLC
>Updates are consistently every 30-60 days
>Can always play with anyone, no segregation based on purchases, can even use any gear you want as long as someone dies/drops it for you

Meanwhile I look at other games I've played recently and its a fucking mess
>Dune has been destroyed by hackers to the point where they have simply been able to walk into your base and take everything, are duping infinite resources and speed hacking/infinite damage in the free-for-all end game area
>Nightreign was in a content drought from day 1 and has received a whopping 3 "new" bosses which are rehashes, no word on any new characters or actual real bosses, they have even started rehashing the rehashes because the other bosses are not ready yet (how hard is it to reskin something purple?)
>Destiny 2 just released their worst expansion ever, forcing an entire gear reset for all players every 6 months, it would be like your HD2 character getting reset to level 1 and all unlocks resetting every 6 months; its that bad
Its fucking bleak out there, HD2 is the only game I've consistently not felt fucked over from and its live service model is fine.