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/sthg/ #8470 - Beating Women Edition

==NEWS==
>TailsTube #12 - Life Hacks
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>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Animation Teaser
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>Sonic Racing - Cross the Worlds - (Opening ver.) - Performed by James Bourne of Busted
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>Sonic Rumble global launch delayed:
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>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
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==Comics Release Dates==
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog #5 - 23 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #80 - 30 July 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 24 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026

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Previous Thread: >>532306381

>>532338427
https://files.catbox.moe/p439m0.jpg

Hmm Shadolin

Soulmates!

I have autism prepared

>>532341101

>>532340917 (OP)
Sonic punching his tenrec wife

>>532341283

>>532340917 (OP)
>it's time to get REDEEMED, Surge.
>DO NOT REDEEM! DO NOT REDEEM!

Peak sex.

Ok superstars didn’t sell well but hear me out, whatever happened to just letting the first game be ok and improving it on the sequels, just take what’s already there add some stuff and make it better
>But anon muh asset recycling, you just want a polished turd
Yes, i don’t give a shit, i’d rather have a nice golden piece of shit in sonic super stars 3, than 2 different flavors of shit with sega trying 2 direct things on 2 brand new gimmicky games

>>532341460
Forced redeeming is the best kind

>>532340901
Set aside time for the gym everyday. Start off with a manageable amount and go, even if you're not feeling up for it at least try. You may find yourself accomplishing more than you'd expect. With fitness, something is always better than nothing and inactivity will destroy your progress. Try to set a normal sleeping schedule and stick to it. Maybe exercise a little before your bedtime to wear yourself out and look at electronics less before you go to bed. Drink plenty more water and rely on your sleep for your energy rather than caffeine. Godspeed, anon.

What human women are Sonic approved?

>>532341675
Domestic violence has never looked so romantic.

>>532340416
>momthrowers getting uppity
Someone needs to remind them their place

>>532341783
al

Silly anons the sonic trainig regime is
>Run
>Run faster
>drink water
>eat chili dog
>Run
>Run faster
>sleep
>Repeat

You're really telling me there are women who want this???

Ew! Think of all the horrible alien DNA in Shadow, he turns into a nasty mass of veiny tentacles too. Gross!

>Sage coming to IDW
How will they ruin her?

>>532342175
I meant to say all but I guess Al works too.

The Sonic movie fandom is doing well

>>532341285
Surge choking her hedgehog husband.

>>532342273
>more shit for the shit pile
Who cares?

>>532340917 (OP)
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>>532342397
kill yourself

>>532342434
>>532342585
Probably the most Tails and Cream have ever interacted until Dream Team

>>532341545

this is the liveliest Sonic universe has ever been

>>532342253
YES
YEESSS
POST MORE!!!

>>532342732
THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN ME

>>532342896
I didn't draw more

>>532342253
>veiny tentacles
you're telling me women don't like dick? I'm just now learning this /s

>>532342837
>shartchie
Opinion discarded

plap plap plap plap plap

>>532342253
Sex with that.
>>532343000
Explain why right now!

>>532341675
Why the hell is Shenmue canon

>>532343135
Busy playing Shadow gens

>>532342964
>recoils in pain
>"Ouch"
Did eggman give his robot artificial nerves?

sonegg family

>>532343379
What caused you to become obsessed with Female Sonic x Eggman
It feels very specific

>>532343379
gay version

>>532343340
How else are you supposed to tech em?

Douge

>>532343340
Egg Pawns can emulate fear, love, and at times scratch their ass. Eggman always give his creations these sort of quirks.

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>>532343668
>and at times scratch their ass
You think Eggman makes some of them sniff their fingers right after?

>>532342964
This animation sucks.

>>532343675
Actually kill yourself!

>>532343216
That's not him. Filename.

Dear puristfags, if Archie is bad, why does my dock get hard to its characters? Curious.

Surge makes me hard

Why do so many people act like IDW is not on the verge of going under just because it is still producing comics? What do they expect to happen? For the company to shutdown operations.

>>532343817
The screencap isn't chroniclesfag, but the "Shenmue is canon" image itself was posted by him, it's just an anon compiling everything he said: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/526340196/#q526358074

>>532344038
>breasts
You don't actually like Surge.

>>532343705
If Eggman could make a fucking retard like Cubot, then I wouldn't put it past him giving a badnik whose specific trait is being a fart smeller.

>>532343439
I don't know but it tickles my fancy quite a bit, here are the kids

>>532343989
>my dock
Begone robot.

>>532343675
You've been posting this for over 3 years. I don't think it's a very good strategy.

>>532344206
>You don't actually like Surge.
Sounds based

I think fanfiction, fanart, and even official material like IDW need to show characters rail grinding a lot more. It's like, THE thing that demonstrates how much the Sonicverse is built for speed and acrobatics.

>bestie

>>532344540
Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations.

>>532344419
>boobs
Fake fan

>>532344419
I think that's dumb

>>532344553
Someday sonic will call amy wife and all of you will shut up

>>532344206
I wanna get her preggo

>>532344038
Sonic is hotter

>>532343614
Cute N Canon!

>>532344038
What's this from?

Sonic characters for this feel?
https://youtu.be/zJSV5h9g0bg

>>532345015
Poor besties

>>532344419
Maybe you're right. There's enough levels to say basically anything can be grinded on: vines, bridge suspensions, giant robot arms. The environment being so full of action is part of Sonic's charm. Better than just walking in an urban crowd.

>>532344908
It's from a fangame. See >>532343216

>>532344992
>Silver Hfoma
Rare

>>532344924
>crackship
>crackship
>crackship
>crackship
>crackship
>gay

>>532345246
Shadow doesn't love Rouge.

>>532344908
Unknown Sonic rpg. Someone compiled the clips, the creator posts here sometimes. https://anonpaste.com/share/sonic-chronicles-fangame-clips-f8245dfd24

>>532342652
Damn straight.

>>532344553
Amy and Sonic are friends and that's supposed to be a bad thing?

>>532344168
loose lips sink ships faster

How would Surge react?

>>532346792
Stomping his face in, violently

>>532346718
Cute fags.

I need him

>>532346895
You understand Surge

>>532344540
It's not just Amy...

>>532346792
CC loves Lelouch and you all know it

>>532345604
>Italian Sonic X theme
>Japanese Sonic X ED 2
>Shadow the Hedgehog trailer theme
I couldn't pick out the rest of those foreign songs but Jesus Christ

>>532346612
"CHAOOOOOOOS...
BOOTFUCK!"

>>532346792
Pegging

All you guys begging for Honey to come back for a new fighting game are forgetting something.

Sega is actually reviving Virtua Fighter. If VF6 actually sells, you know damn well they're gonna look at their other old fighting IPs. Fighting Vipers is the most obvious one to bring back next.

They're not going to let Sonic Team use Honey the Cat if they have any plans at all to revive FV. They'll want the original human Honey for that series. Remember, Honey the Cat only exists because they ported the FV character into the engine as a test. It's literally the same character.

Sega would absolutely shelve a Sonic character to avoid "brand confusion" with one of their other IPs, especially one they're trying to make relevant again. So yeah, she would end up off-limits indefinitely.

>>532344629
Even then she'd just be getting Sally's sloppy seconds lmao

Surge thinks about Sonic all the time. 100% of the time. She can't not think about Sonic. Whenever she's touching herself she's probably also thinking about destroying Sonic.

I don't want to wake up for another day.

>>532347572
Canon, Sonic lives rent-free in Surge.

>>532347549
Sally is dead her universe is dead she is never coming back

>>532347596
I wish you wouldn't <3

>>532347364
This guy needs to get a better style

>>532345604
>Fiona
>Vicky voice
Perfect
>Shadow
>Dreamcast voice
Kirk is unironically better at capturing Shadow's withered soul but sthg isn't ready for that talk.

>>532347030

Allllllllright
Shitposts, bait, samefagging
Anger, rage is rising
Drama, fags wailing
It's such a bad thread

Replies of shitposters
Drawfags lurking in the thread
Normies run from fanfics
What's gonna happen to us?

All the bait we take, all the posts we make
All the butthurt made
I can see the cancer for everyone
Who are we, what can we do?

(You) and I are the same in the way that
We have our headcanons that we won't change
Yours is filled with cringe and mine is not
There is no way I can lose

Can't shitpost much longer (but I will never let it go)
I know it's a one way thread (just tell me how long it'll last)
I'm not gonna see your way (nor will I consider others)
Close my eyes and hit report (now I see what I gotta do)
Close your browser it's gonna be alright

Ancient drama posting
Schizos keep replying
Literal children crying
Confusion, hopeless shitshows

I don't know what it can be but (You) drive me crazy
All your shitty ships make me sick
I won't let you post your own way

Can't shitpost much longer (but I will never let it go)
I know it's a one way thread (just tell me how long it'll last)
I'm not gonna see your way (nor will I consider others)
Close my eyes and hit report (now I see what I gotta do)
Close your browser and you will see

If it won't stop
There will be no OC for us
This gen's topic's tied down by
All the autism, gotta cope and seethe

I know it's a one way thread (just tell me how long it'll last)
I'm not gonna see your way (nor will I consider others)
Close my eyes and hit report (now I see what I gotta do)
Gotta close your browser dude

Can't shitpost much longer (but I will never let it go)
I know it's a one way thread (just tell me how long it'll last)
I'm not gonna see your way (nor will I consider others)
Close my eyes and hit report (now I see what I gotta do)
Close your browser, it's gonna be alright. Yeah!

Close your browser
Close your browser
Bump bump bump.

Trip

>>532347634
Thanks... although idk if you want me dead, or i'm just suicidal.

>>532347572
You just described Eggman too

>>532347731
he tanked that btw

>>532347710
This is the worst post I have read on /sthg/ in at least a year. Kirk is SHIT. Humphrey fit Shadow better than any other English voice actor. You do not understand Shadow t. Hedgehog.

>>532348192
Kirk actually sounds like a tragic, sad giant and Humphrey sounds like some 20 year old they grabbed off the street. You like Humphrey because his voice is less distinct

>>532348192
Get a job krack

>>532347951
and then was sent to another dimension lmao goodbye inferior platypus

Shadow is obsolete when Knuckles and Metal Sonic already exist

You mean to tell me they've used Vectorman twice and neither was a reference to the og?

>>532348279
No, no. Kirk sounds like an old chain smoker. Humphrey's voice is extremely distinct, even more so than Jason or Kirk. He has a clear accent and a younger breathier tone that perfectly fits Shadow's pompous haughty demeanor. I can't believe I'm arguing about this, how old are you?

IT'S SONIC RACIIIIIIIIIIIIING ALL AROUND THE WORLD
FASTER THAN EEEVEEER IT'LL MAKE YOUR TIRES BURN
GOLD RINGS ARE TREAAASUUUURE IT'S CHAOS EVERY TURN
WE'RE TRAILBLAZIIIING
IT'S SONIC RACIIIIIING

>>532348438
go back /co/faggot

>>532348567
24. I don't know how you can watch the new shorts they released for the games and think Kirk is a bad actor. The fact that he sounds old actually fits Shadow's character more than him sounding like just some pompous guy. He actually sounds like an immortal being who's youth was stolen. He actually sounds like some veteran who lost his sister in the war.

>>532348651
nah

>>532348696
Nta, but this has to be bait. I've heard Kirk's other roles. He's an awful Shadow.

>>532348951
I'm sorry but I'm not. I like the elderly take. I never understood the hate.

NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER HEDGEHOG NIGGER HEDGEHOG SHITTY GAY NIGGER FRANCHISE also good morning

>>532349041
Shadow isn't supposed to be elderly.

>>532348696
I didn't say he's a bad actor, he just doesn't fit Shadow at all. It doesn't work with the actual character.
>The fact that he sounds old actually fits Shadow's character
>He actually sounds like some veteran who lost his sister in the war.
Oh. You're one of those people...
Shadow isn't supposed to be old. His physical body is around the same as a 15 year old's (like Sonic's) and he has about 4 years of life experience. Four. He's seen less in life than Cream. Shadow has eternal youth, and no, he isn't supposed to sound actually 50. And Maria's not his sister.
Comparing Shadow to a veteran is how I know you've got absolutely no real grasp on Shadow's character.

>>532349057
Why are you like this, Sage?

>>532349496
pedo cunt artist

>>532345604
>Going to the effort of giving Chris his official teen voice that is only heard in one scene
>Replacing Sonia's voice with a female actress
Kind of subtly transphobic

>>532349636
Superior genes and energy drinks.

>>532349637
What does my post have to do with Gigi D?

>>532342642
in Dream Team their only interaction is Cream saying "ok thanks." after a whole game of her sucking off Sonic and Knuckles

the Diamondcutters are just Evan trying to do the Crystal Gems
Whisper is the "tough" "stoic" "quiet" black girl like Garnet
Tangle is the spunky loudmouthed tomboy like Amethyst
Lanolin is the neurotic controlling passive aggressive bitch like Pearl
that makes Silver Steven Universe

>>532343135
M-ok, I made another before bed.
You better thank me for this one!
https://files.catbox.moe/x4jkqq.jpg

Cute rat

>>532351338
UNF that's some good shit anon

tell me about windfags

Crushing Sonic's ribcage!

>>532349381
Let me guess, you think Shadow and Maria are a couple

>>532349381
When are you applying for a job

>>532352007
Windfags are people who are fans of Sonic's personality from the games. They usually don't like Sonic's personality from other media, particularly IDW as it is supposed to be canon but doesn't line up with the games.

HONEY ZA CATTO

both my parents wanted a son instead of me

>>532344419
If they wanted Surge to be somewhat cool they should take more cues from how Cole from Infamous uses his powerset https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZu6OCF4EV0

>>532349738
You're making him my favorite person ITT

What the fuck

>>532354475
>Late teens
>Identical to 12 year old Maria
Archie was playing with fire there

>>532354475
She's a midget like Snivelly

AS LONG AS I'M AROUND, YOU'LL ALWAYS HAVE A WINGMAN.

THE FOREST IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACE ON EARTH.

I DON'T NEED THE DETAILS, JUST TELL ME WHO TO SMASH.

YOU MAY NOT LIKE THE WAY I DO THINGS, BUT I GET THINGS DONE.

>>532354701

>>532354475
The Mobius Unleashed comic where she's disgusted by Chris trying to flirt with her makes more sense now

>>532353237
No, they weren’t a couple. Their relationship has romantic elements, but they are just friends. They have been described as sibling-like at times, but the "like" is there to clarify that they aren't literal siblings. If you don't call Blaze Silver's sister, you shouldn't call Maria Shadow’s sister, as both dynamics are described with the same words but neither calls the other sister or brother because they aren't.
When you say she's his sister it confuses autistic Americans who take it literally and then start spazzing out when they learn Maekawa ships them.

>>532354904
perfect duo...

Perfect girl...

>>532344419
Idw needs to show the characters doing more game-like stuff in general. It's the real reason early IDW actually wasn't terrible. Issue 1-12 is genuinely enjoyable. The first annual as well with exception of the Silver and Blaze story. There used to be an abundance of robots and action elements, something genuinely changed about IDW after Metal Virus

>>532351338
Hnngh that's the good shit anon. Thank you, I'm glad I visited /sthg/ today, there's at least one worthwhile thing here (it's hfoma porn)

>>532355126
>something genuinely changed about IDW after Metal Virus
The Metal Virus arc was actually an arc for Reboot Archie and Ian simply did it in IDW. That's why he was so passionate about it and why he was able to write it so quickly. What you were seeing was the last gasp of Ian's soul.

>>532355026
Sonic & Knuckles? Peak duo, peak rivals, peak ship

>>532345108
MINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>532354475
>>532354950
>She's significantly older than Chris Thorndyke
Chroniclesfag you've done a /ss/

>>532355126
>>532355283
The Metal Virus was the worst arc in the entire comic and even if we include Shartchie it's still top 3. That's how shit the Metal Virus is. Genuinely awful

>>532354475
>>532354950
>>532355431
https://files.catbox.moe/rsiyo2.mp4

>>532355565
CHRIS NO THAT'S A GROWN WOMAN

>>532355565
I need to know what that japanese song is please

Sex. With this.

>>532355565
When is he adding Maria's ghost to the game

>>532355283
>>532355439
It's not amazing because of all the redeemnic shit that is the catalyst for it and Shadow's clownfest, but I thought all the other characters were great to just fine doing what they can. But it is the turning point for idw where now all the focus is on trying to create melodrama to enact more "trauma" on characters. We don't see them smash many robots anymore and eggmans is basically nonexistent in stories hes not the center focus of

>>532355283
Why hire that faggot Ian when all he can think about is Archie through his entire career?

>>532355950
The fanbae was at the peak of Pontaff fatigue and was able to be tricked by astroturfing that Ian was the savior of Archie and therefore a good writer, and thus his name was brought up a lot to Sega as a replacement.

>>532355868
The Metal Virus is only "good" because it was the only attempt the comic made at an actual story. All the others have been one-shots, pseudo-SoL, and whatever the fuck that Duo/Clutch/Clean Sweepstakes was.

IDW lost it's feeling of being "like the games" the second they started introducing a shitton of non-game characters, locations and content. Tangle and Whisper (and Belle) were fine enough, but once we got to Starline, Mimic, Surge, Kit, Belle, Clutch, etc, where the fuck is the game part anymore?

>>532355950
Ian is an Archie Sonic fan. He will never let it go. Archie will always be a part of his writing.
It's hard to even come up with a comparison for the kind of fan Ian is. It's like if someone got to write Avatar because they worked on the Shyamalan movie and can't let it go

>>532356030
Meanwhile the fandom has been telling them to retire the Boost for ages and they absolutely REFUSE to budge on it. Nice to see their hearing is heavily selective.

>>532356094
*I mean to say Jewel, not Belle the first time

>>532356094
It was never like the games. They rarely even go to game locations. Mostly just generic islander town, an Eggman base, or a forest.

>>532356094
My theory is that Ian was used to writing for Archie which was populated with hundreds of OCs. Ignoring the context they were created in.

The original set of SatAM OCs were created based on what little they had to work with. Then the rest were created because Ken Penders loves copying Superman beat for beat.
Ian came into Archie in the mid 2000s. During the time when Archie was a freakish hybrid of the adventure era, a teen drama, and satam. To Ian, this is what Sonic is.

>doomposting
>doomposting
>doomposting
It's over, and the over is so over.

The over ended, and the end is overed.

>>532356169
>Nice to see their hearing is heavily selective.
Selective to what works. They didn't retire the boost because it was successful in Unleashed, Colors and Gens and with half the fandom at the time constantly praising unleashed, I don't think they could feasibly believe the boost was really the problem. Meanwhile, Forces deliberately tried to go back to "edgier" writing and it failed spectacularly with many people criticizing it for how shit it was executed so they retired Pontaff

>>532356169
They lost all confidence to break away from Boost after Boom became a disaster and Lost World flopped (though they remained insistent the Deadly Six could work because JUST THINK OF THE MARKETING POTENTIAL - I think they even encouraged Ian to to make Zeti OCs in hopes of rubbing comics magic on them and he refused).

>>532356094
Tangle and Whisper are gamepilled for obvious reasons. Surge and Kit are gamepilled too. They have elemental powers and could fit in with the game cast because they're brightly colored. Surge is based on Ashura and Kit and Starline are based on palette glitches too. Starline had the Warp Topaz which I'm positive was inspired by the Phantom Ruby. The rest of the OCs lack game inspiration though.

>>532356351
Reminder, the original editor wanted to dump everything and start fresh when Penders left, but Ian fought to keep the preboot world and agreed to just get rid of only some of the OCs. Ian wanted this because he preferred the OCshit and world that was drastically different from the games. It's funny because if Ian listened to the editor, Ken's lawsuit for Chronicles wouldn't have affected Archie at all, lol.

>>532356363
There's nothing to be hopeful about

>>532356565
It wouldn't have Saved Archie: they deliberately let Sonic (and Mega Man) die because corporate was going all in on the Riverdale TV show.

>>532355565
Women will nearly take off your head with a gigantic mechanical lobster claw and then look at you like you're crazy

>>532356518
This is true. Those specific OCs were created like they were meant to be in a game. Belle, Lanolin, and the rest just exist for the sake of not using game characters because there are "less restrictions" but fail spectacularly as additions to the comic.

>>532356587
Except fucking amy.

>>532356748
The lawsuit thing definitely damaged things. The last crossover was just the nail in the coffin because it was expensive as fuck and the gains were minuscule. So Archie just went fuck it all.

>>532356274
Game locations would not make it like the games. Of course it'd be nice to see, but if they go to Music Plant and still have retarded drama, crying, infighting and trauma, that's still not like the games.
I say the earlier issues are more like the games because everyone does their thing and utilizes their game abilities, there's less talking and more action and although Eggman was out of commission, Neo Metal being the center villain still felt like the games. Eggman's robots are everywhere. And even after that arc, we get to see areas still have random Eggman bots running around that the cast take care of. There's none of this after Metal Virus is over. Just shitty Clutch, Belle going uuuuuuu my dad left me, Starline raping Surge and Kit, Lanolin being a bitch and Tangle being "manipulative" to Whisper, Whisper crying every arc after getting her ass beat. There is a stark difference between what early IDW did with the characters versus what came after Metal Virus

>>532356837
There's nothing hopeful about that
You can fantasize about that whenever you want

The problem with IDW is that it would actually be more interesting if the game characters were in character.
I'm not a purist. I understand that different adaptations of a thing can exist, but if IDW Sonic was based directly on game Sonic his dynamics with everyone would be so much more interesting.

>>532356875
I legitimately don't know what the fuck they were thinking with Worlds Unite. Like, I get the clueless exec "duur, crossover 1 do good so maybe crossover 2 do good too" logic, but asking to rent that many fucking IPs? Did they not think the costs would outweigh the gains?

>Comic takes place directly after Forces.
>Isn't allowed to use or even acknowledge Infinite.
It's like if a comic took place after Sonic Adventure, but you were forbidden from referencing Chaos. Or it took place after SA2 and you couldn't reference Shadow.

>>532357113
The avengers had just come out and they probably thought they could pull off something with proportionate success

The comics have literally never been good

>>532357141
Okay I think the comic is retarded, but what even is this train of thought? What is there to acknowledge about Infinite when he's dead and Eggman was still the final villain for that game?

>>532357113
The latest editor at the time wanted it to happen right before he left to DC. He also wanted stakes that led to Team Dark dying in that crossover. Archie apparently had to pay for each Sega and Capcom IP individually, making it a huge money sink that led to Archie dropping their licensed comics altogether when it was over.

>>532357141
>you couldn't reference Shadow.
For all intents and purposes, Shadow was supposed to be dead after SA2 and only got brought back out of popularity in Heroes.

>>532356926
i will self insert and there is nothing you can do about it

>>532357386
No one's stopping you
It's simply not something to be hopeful about

I don't think this general was deluded when they enjoyed the starting issues. This place used to be positive about IDW. If you go back and read 1-12, its very different from what we get nowadays

>>532357257
Because he was one of the major threats during Eggman's takeover? You can't just pretend he doesn't exist, dude. He was one of the main advertised things of the game. What the fuck do you mean "what even is this train of thought"? Forces was basically Infinite's fucking game.

>>532357257
>>532357351
I think the idea is that Sonic considered Infinite so pathetic and tryhard-ish that he has never even thought about him again, let alone referenced him.

>>532357431
It is, they are all virtual characters

>>532356779
>Chronicles comes out
>Worst Sonic game ever made
>Penders sues because Bioware stole his OC
>Nearly 20 years later
>Anon decides to remake the worst game ever that nobody played but with EVERYONE IS HERE
Impressed

>>532357475
>You can't just pretend he doesn't exist
But we can, he died and was a weak fuck abusing a mcguffin. It's called the EGGMAN war for a reason. He was just another goon for Eggman in the end and like all Eggman goons after they get defeated, they're irrelevant. He died like a wetfart and wasn't even the final stage of the game kek

>>532357515
Correct, they will never be real

>A comic takes place after Unleashed
>Pretend Dark Gaia never happened
>Retard goes "What's the point of mentioning Dark Gaia at all?"

>>532357332
>Capeshitter with a bad case of I CLAPPED syndrome murders his parent company to pad out his resume before jumping to the Big 2 like a plague rat from a sinking ship where he probably advocated more mass crossovers too bloated to give any of the characters appropriate attention or respect
I'm curious how he was allowed so little oversight for something like this.

>>532357475
It only lasted 6 months. Besides, the whole I AM NOT WEAK REEEEEEEEE thing kinda sank him as a character for most people.

>>532357437
When Prime came out people were saying Shadow was in character. People still say this. This is probably because Sonic is so retarded in that show that he makes Shadow seem relatable.

>>532357704
>comparing an eternal god to a literal who with a mask
Holy retard

>>532357648
He defeated Sonic and was going around being a driving force in Eggman's army. Literally his top enforcer. You can't ignore such a character.

The whole point is clearly that you should make friends otherwise the world will forget you just like Infinite

'cole

>>532357798
>Comparing major conflict character to another major conflict character
Stop making excuses for corpos, dude. They aren't gonna hire you. They didn't even have to put Infinite or give him a flashback. Just fucking mention him ffs. It doesn't even have to more than once. The comic is a Forces sequel, Infinite is a forces character.

>>532357897
Built for Mongoose

>>532357853
Infinite did have "friends" (Jackal Squad) but Shadow killed them.

'nic

>>532355838
Eggman..

>>532357818
We can because he died. He's not a problem anymore, there's nothing to say. Eggman is still an active problem and its HIS war. Sonic was freed, Infinite is dead, theres literally nothing else to say. Unless he's brought back to life, he's irrelevant.
And your comparisons to other games are fucking retarded
>Chao
>Shadow
>Dark Gaia
All living active forces of the world, Dark Gaia is embedded in the fucking planet they live on
>>532357964
>Just fucking mention him ffs
Okay so youre just a butthurt infinitefag throwing a tantrum because his favorite character died like the nobody he was

'cole is my wife, 'ona is my soul
>>532358076
'nic is MY BITCH, his ass belongs to me on a silver plate

Lore consistency never really mattered to Sonic Team. Too many world ending events happen and subsequently never leave lasting effects on the world. Only you nerds seems to care about it.

>>532357964
I don't know what to tell you anon: he's just not relevant to anything going on at the moment. The Phantom Ruby's gone, Eggman killed him for a cheap power boost for his robot, and nobody has any reason to mention him outside some Ian Flynn-brand WITHOUT THE TIME STONES references. It is what it is.

>>532356779
She is Sonic colored and he is Shadow colored

>>532357437
The general was excited about having an actual game-adjacent Sonic comic for once. Unfortunately, the goodwill quickly wore off when the shitty OCs, canon characters acting OOC and getting sidelined, nothingburger stories, and forced drama. It feels like you're reading a fancomic. At least Archie and Fleetway felt like they gave a shit about themselves, haven't felt that way about IDW for a long time. I know the people working on it on just in it for the small paycheck, but do they have to make it so obvious to the readers?

>>532357406
Our paragon

>>532358308
>spoiler
Wrong

>>532358193
What's the problem with mentioning him once? He appeared in the game and the comic is a glorified sequel to Forces and Infinite was a big factor in Forces? What's exactly the issue here? He can't be mentioned because he lost? What kind of logic is this?

Sega is not gonna hire you for thinking this stupidly for them.

What if we are going through the same thing now with the manga. I remember when IDW had everyone tricked by mentioning windshit

>>532358407
That's what I've been saying. The first few issues were solid enough redeemnic aside. It fell apart after Metal Virus

>>532355565
What even is this game?!

>>532358609
There's a TL:DR over at >>532343216

SOULver

>>532358325
This is a problem SA1 introduced, most Classic games kept situations limited to a single location and resolved those situations more cleanly

>Why do they gotta mention Metal Sonic in this Sonic Heroes sequel? He lost!
>Merlina? Why the fuck should anyone care about that bitch existing in this Black Knight sequel? Sonic defeated her already! She doesn't need to be acknowledged!

>>532358648
https://youtu.be/oOCydGRcv1A?si=r0YB_1sBkPpyUvmM

>>532358684

>>532358750
What Black Knight sequel?

>>532358556
I don't get the schizo "sega's not gonna hire you" thing you're going on about. It's not that he can't be mentioned, it's just
There's no reason to. Like what is the purpose of doing what you're asking for if he's not going to be relevant in anything? You just want it just for them to say it and then what? Like >>532358352 says, what's the point outside of cheap Ian Flynn tier references? Especially this late into the comic that's about to get into Frontiers.

>>532358750
>Creating fictional scenarios to get mad at
Meds

>>532358556
>>532358750

>>532358784
It's a Sonic Chronicles fanmade sequel/successor made by an everythingfag

>>532358815
IDW was literally not allowed to mention Infinite. that's the issue. It's retarded. He had a role in Forces and the comic is basically a post-Forces comic, yet they can't even mention Infinite, even when they have flashbacks during Eggman's takeover. You can't justify this.

>2002
Why mention Shadow? he already died and he is NOT coming back. you are getting more Tails and Knuckles.

>>532358943
>zoomie sees poochie meme once
>thinks he understands it and starts throwing it around immediately

The Ancients shouldn't be acknowledged in Frontiers 2. Neither should Sage.

>>532358750
I think you just misinterpret the purpose of the comic. It's not a Forces sequel, it just takes place after Forces. There's a difference. A sequel would deliberately take elements and characters from the game prior to make a new story with similar element. So more classic sonic, the avatar, bringing back the phantom ruby, etc. The comic on the other hand isn't going out of its way to do that, it's more like continuation of base forces. The in between of what happened before you get to a sequel. Infinite's dead, Eggman was missing so they're just doing cleanup and then there are other things they have to deal with.
>>532359073
>IDW was literally not allowed to mention Infinite.
If it's a mandate, you could've just said that first so everyone can understand you instead of schizoing out. Do you have any link to where the IDW staff said this?

>>532359073
>He had a role in Forces and the comic is basically a post-Forces comic
Because Infinite's story in Sonic Team's eyes was already incomplete. They don't want to reveal what happened with him and the Phantom Ruby in some shitty comic that they themselves don't even care about.

This is the biggest head scratcher for me really. They allow them to write stories in Sonic's world, but their stories and characters will never be seen as valuable to them.

>>532359319
>introduce lore
>never do anything with it again
That's tradition. Sage will probably appear though, and they'll act like she and Sonic never bonded.

>Why yes you can reinterpret sonic character according to your autism
>NO NO, SONIC SHOULD NEVER CRY, ALSO MALES DO NO WEAR PANTS BECAUSE THEY JUST CAN'T, OK? ALDO NO FANGS ON TAILS THAT WOULD RUIN OUR BRAND (even though it's already ruined to the bone)

>>532359319
>The Ancients shouldn't be acknowledged in Frontiers 2.
I agree
>Neither should Sage.
Disagree, she's now part of the reoccurring cast

It's possible that it's like the Sticks, Money, and Shadow friendship mandates where Ian's original pitch is so bad that Sega decides he shouldn't try anything similar

>>532359369
>If it's a mandate, you could've just said that first
I LITERALLY said they weren't allowed to acknowledge Infinite, retard. >>532357141 What the fuck did you think that meant?

>>532359479
You forgot to mention wind

I wasted all my coom energy, I just want to cuddle a mobian now.

>>532359494
>Sticks
Was likely headed for the vault with or without his pitch.
>Money
This has always been retarded and only exist to dumb down the world and push it more as a utopia.
>Shadow
He's not supposed to have friends, just people that won't leave him alone.

>>532359563
>What the fuck did you think that meant?
I mean you should provide context or proof at least because a lot of anons state things like that out their own schizo delusions and you're not really helping your case by seething like a retard

>>532359641
Stop doubling down and just admit you misread my post.

>>532348540
Obsolete isn't the same as redundant. Yes Shadow is redundant but you could argue he's an upgrade over both characters making them obsolete

>>532315313
Sonic is not a whiny fag.

That Gigi tweet about relatability destroyed any hope I had for idw

>>532359735
No I'm genuinely asking for proof. I didn't misread it, anons here daily go "x character is vaulted" "This concept is not allowed" because said character or concept is just not mentioned for a little while and that somehow proves it's blacklisted or something. But if you have a comment from Ian or Evan or any idw staff saying Infinite wasn't allowed to even be mentioned in the comic, I'll concede

>>532359874
>having hope for westshit in the first place

>>532357964
Didn't Starline mention Infinite early on?

>>532359874
Barnes thinks the exact opposite of Gigi it's kind of funny. Real man vs pooner shit

>>532358072
This is because the execution of Forces' story is a mess. What that anon said is the idea of the base game's story, but Episode Shadow contradicts it.

>>532355838
Tails..

>>532359369
This makes no sense. It is a sequel.

>>532359898
Ian said it on his podcast when he was asked about Infinite. I don't have the earliest transcript of it because the archive doesn't go that far, but Ian did mention it again in another question:

>Q:Are there any events or lore from past games that you wanted to explore or expand upon but was told you couldn’t? If so, can you say what they were? Some things I’d love to see explored are why one of the seven Chaos Emeralds were missing until Sonic 2, what the Hidden Palace Zone on Westside Island was for, and why the plans for the Death Egg II from Fighters was seemingly scrapped until the Death Egg mk. II in Sonic 4. There are a whole bunch of unexplained bits in the past that are ripe for exploring.
There were times where he was told no at the time, but there were also times where they were approved later on. He learned how to better pitch things to get them approved. In the reboot era they weren't allowed to show characters being younger but by using the classic designs they could "imply" that they were younger. They couldn't use Classic Sonic's design so they did a mishmash between the two. One story they couldn't use Classic Eggman so they put him in a mech that hid everything but his face. Ian would love to follow up on Infinite and the Phantom Ruby but that's off the table. It really varies from era to era. Cream and Omega were banned for a while. Exploring the original Sonic 2 Hidden Palace or Wood Zone would be great.
>Ian would love to follow up on Infinite and the Phantom Ruby but that's off the table.

>>532359874
Why do I feel like IDW Sonic is a just a vehicle for gay leftist politics?
>>532360297
The Lego study

I am literally a blue hedgehog irl

>>532360241
Did he? Was it like something very vague?

>>532360458
What sequel doesn't utilize elements necessary to it's previous story? Even the resistance is gone and the restoration is a farce. It's a continuation of base forces ending into being it's own thing. If you're a kid who likes forces, you're getting none of that in the comic

>>532360598
From what I remember, they didn't mention him by name but were clearly talking about him for like one panel

>>532360601
>It's a continuation of base forces
In other words, a Forces sequel

>>532359776
As long as they keep spewing MUHRIA and keep him an unlikable inflexible prick, he's not a upgrade over them. Metal Sonic plays on the environmentalist roots of the series and he fills the "artificial machine" angst. Knuckles plays the straight-man dynamic with Sonic, whilst being a tough rival prick with a golden heart. He's only an upgrade in the sense that its easier for fans to latch onto him obsessively because of his mature background and DBZ similarities. Otherwise, he's an overhyped edgelord. Shadow is stuck in this useless state because he's handled so stringently. Fans want more from him but Sonic Team doesn't. Shadow has a corporate baggage that the others don't and it drags him down.

>>532360297
Barnes doesn't miss

>>532360701
Okay thank you, now we can properly address what you're talking about. Ian says they're not allowed to *follow-up on Infinite, but that just sounds like an extension of the policy that the comics can't introduce new concepts not established by the games. It means Ian can't pitch a new story about Infinite or the Phantom Ruby unless the games prove he's still alive or the ruby is still out there. But that doesn't negate the writers from talking about him in a past context. That's not sega mandate at play, that just a conscious decision from the idw staff because they've not written anything that makes him worth mentioning because they're too busy with their crying lesbians. They don't write scenarios in the comics like what we got in Frontiers of Tails addressing how bitch made he was in front of Infinite

Cream the rabbit.

>>532272079

>>532361165
Meant for >>532360517

>>532361239
Meant for >>532361239

>>532360540
>The Lego study
What makes women like this that they are unable to enjoy characters without making it like them? There's got to be a deeper psychological aspect to this

Morning

>>532361679
god I wish that was me

>>532360297
Why does Danny think he has a huge say in Sonic. I see him so full of himself on Twitter all the time.

>>532361863
Does he? I think he just acts like the regular sonic that can't help but argue about the blue fuck all day.

Hoping Barnes Chaotix special is good so that he can become a regular writer on the main comics

>>532361956
Every tweet of his I see is him up his own ass.

>>532362106
So like most Sonic fans?

>>532362106
In what way?
Give me some examples, I'm genuinely curious, because all I've seen him say so far are facts.

>>532360540
>>532361449
>lego study
That thread was funny.

https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/506305553/#506312959

>>532345604
>>532347121
>>532347710
>>532349738
>>532358609
>>532358648
I'm the anon who made the original screencap about hunting Chroniclesfag's clips down that >>532343216 posted. I forgot to enable myself to edit the original paste and Chroniclesfag posted a few more times since, so I created a new version I can keep up-to-date going forward:
https://anonpaste.com/share/sonic-chronicles-fangame-clips-v2-9f10c521ed

>>532362397
>A fan game dev actually shutting the fuck up about it until he's finished
Somewhere Woolie is crying tears of joy

>>532362239
My hypothesis is that women do not strive toward an ideal because of how heavily the are coddled in their infancy compared to their male peers. They want the comfort of something they already know while boys are encourage to get outside of their comfort zone. The sad fact is, no amount of strong woman propaganda inserted into children's media can change this because it's enforced even before they get a shred of literacy to understand basic media. Parents let the little boys get into trouble and explore letting them strive for more, girls are sheltered and coddled leading to increased innocence and fear of the world. So even that Lego study is skewed in a way because little girls are not even given chance to escape the mindset.

>>532350997
Wow this ship is literally built on nothing lmao

>>532362397
>https://files.catbox.moe/ozb3vq.mp4
based and in-character dialogue choices

>>532362218
South Island doesn't look like that.

>>532362709
>Shadow is like schnitzel from that chowder show
>all he does is mumble some gibberish "rado rado rada rada"
>somehow it has a meaning
that "hmph" carries an answer for those who seek it.

>>532362539
Isn't Sega one of the most permissive big devs about fangames, especially with Sonic? I thought that advice was for gigajew jackasses like Nintendo?

>>532362680
They do strive towards ideals, but they're more influenced by social conformity unlike men who are more zero fucks given although men get easily influenced by them if that means they could fuck.

I believe males in general (like me) are bound to their nature as "suicidal units" where they produce/fight/fuck as much as we could until death occurs.

>>532362968
It's good advice regardless, never take anything for granted.

Sonic's boobs

>>532362859
What is the right side of that pic showing?

>>532363580
The entrance to Labyrinth.

>>532363787
Cool

>>532363580
I forgot to tag

>>532363885
>>532363979
That's better

>>532363546
People really just want to see the tough girl becomes feminine trope with Surge so bad lmao

>>532364012
Those people need to jump off a bridge, stop trying to change a character's personality

>>532363546
>tan legs

>>532364109
She shaved.

>>532364012
>the raped

https://vocaroo.com/1aCxUn2gQ6Oi

>>532362680
This is not true, my sister had 100 times more social freedom than me and got into trouble many times, yet she is still qn average woman. It's simply coded in them.

>>532361449
Women have crazy unchecked narcissism

>Making Surge flat
I'm tired of this blatant retcon

>>532362239
>https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/506305553/#506312959
As expected Tailsfags are baseder than Ian and Evan combined

>>532366991
>blatant retcon
It's not a retcon, she never had large breast. ABT just draws every woman with big boobs

>>532367362
ABT is incredibly based, yes, though even in this concept art there's clearly some curves, they're just being hidden behind the high waisted pants flaring out at the top.

>>532367362
>>532367643
Evan drew her with breasts as well

What if Sonic fought like Vegito?

All my bitches love me when I pull up in my whip.

>>532369801
you want him to job THAT badly?
jokes aside that'd be pretty cool I guess

amy should peg me, make me into her pegging loving slut

>>532369908
>>532370261
What is "11.8"?

>>532371097
Frontiers release date.

Why did IDW hire a bunch of porn artists?

Today i went to the pool with my dad and while swimming i saw a lot of sexy women and i've been reminded by god i am definitely straight. The dick goes in pussy as nature intended.

>>532374032
They were cheap and already knew how to draw Sonic

>>532374032
Every Sonic artist is a porn artist
>but this one did not
They didn't show you.

Don't delude yourself.

>>532374886
fuck you

>>532374886
Living in delusion makes you happier

>>532374293
https://youtu.be/z_yRDQPel5Y?si=ilqWCf2baaDzieRW

>>532374032
Porn artists are typically better artists.

>>532375369
see >>532374886
>>532375417
No. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9zlXUSuUeo

>>532376748
>Reach out to the truth
>A good chunk of P4fags refuse to do so regarding some characters
She won

>>532374032
They're all porn artists, anon, every single person who draws in the industry, because porn commissions make so much more money than working on the comics.

>>532377010
as she should have in the first place...

>>532377010
She's coming back again because they desire the fog, again.

>>532377412
As long as I get to see the gang again

Since we're talking Persona. Max Mittelman would be the perfect voice for Sonic to finally retire that washed up surfer bro Sonic we have. That is all.

>>532377709
Robbie Daymond as Shadow with the voice he did for Hubert from Fire Emblem

>>532377010
>>532377308
>tranime

>>532377791
Weird at first, but I love it actually.

>>532377791
>hubert shadow
but who would be the edelgard? rouge?
also nice digits

>>532377709
I have been saying this for years, it's so perfect.

>>532377828
>tranime site

>>532378019
He gets haunted by Maria's ghost

>>532378026
I had hope when Roger was left go, but then Twitter squealed and he immediately came back. Which is among the reasons why I fucking hate Twitter.

Post fangs.

>>532379306

>>532378207
I always thought Roger was miscast, if he was cast as Shadow and used his Origins Batman voice I'd like him better.

>>532379306

>>532380341
I think that'd be a perfect fit yeah

Tails!

The threads have become even slower lately

>>532380603

>>532381335
Good

>>532381335
Good, unironically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J44FvHtDypE
>How Sonic Games (Eventually) Become Good
Thoughts on this video? Its main point is that as people play the games more they learn to appreciate them better, so over time Sonic games become more popular because they become more accessible and people have played them for longer

Whisper the wife

>>532382718
A wedding dress she'll never wear

The reason why this general is slow is because the franchise is dogshit.

>>532302083
That guy makes tons of stupid assumptions just because I like the gameplay, art, music and story concept of Colors. It doesn't matter that I'm always talking about how much I don't like the dialogue
Funny that I also agree with almost everything you said. I just don't really mind how Tails is used in Unleashed (anymore, I used to be angry about it in the past lol)

If Colors Ultimate was good it would have made Tails playable. Among other things

>>532383060
Yup, and it'll be two years before anything good.

>>532382641
My opinions on the sonic games have been the same since I was a kid. Only journalists and the cattle who listen to them have changed their minds on games like the adventure titles.
There;s also a case of nostalgia. Heroes is a shit game, but there are people old enough now who grew up with it as their first sonic on the playstation/xbox.

O-Oh, wow! Anonymous? I-I wasn't expecting you to come by my lab today... What brings you here? Do you want me to work on another invention for you? O-Oh... you want to know what my pronouns are today? Okay! They're she/they and it's Kim, please respect my identity!

>>532383597
Vermin

Has anyone noticed how Legacy's goonbait dolphin oc has been completely absent from their comic since awf left? It's been three years since she was in the comic and she's supposed to be their mascot. 90% of their merch has her on it. Just an observation.

>>532381945
<3

>>532383323
It's genuinely scary how some people here jump to conclusions even though you explicitly say that you agree with them in certain cases. Dude literally said I was shilling for the movies when I was doing the opposite, like what the fuck people

Anyways here's the poll

I hate Tails because of the tailspedo
I hate Amy because of Sonamy
I hate Shadow because of Shadowyumes
I can't take Whisper seriously because of Whispercel
I hate Tangle becasue of Evan
I hate anything Freedom Fighters post reboot because Ian
I hate Windnic because of Windfags
I hate Maria because of Shadriashippers

>>532384236
Legacy still exists?

PoV: You are a Mobian male.

>>532384508
>off topic

if you could pet your favorite character anywhere, where would it be?
I choose Eggman and I'm going to pet his dick

>>532384330
Letting others stop you from liking things is sad

>>532384330
You're the softest bitch ever then. Imagine letting randoms on the internet dictate what you like. Pathetic.

>>532383060
So the franchise was amazing earlier this year when it was consistently in the top 5 most active threads on the entire website

>>532383419
My opinions haven't exactly changed drastically, but some definitely changed over the years and it has nothing to do with reviewers. I gained new perspectives, I tried playing the games in different ways, I played games I hadn't played before, in some cases I was just heavily biased against some games over some nitpicks (or in some cases larger complaints) I'm no longer anywhere near as bothered by, and I'm more open to different things. Overall I think my attitude just changed. The games are meant to be enjoyed, so I try to enjoy them first, before I anger myself trying to give some pretentious critique without knowing what I'm even talking about

Sonicbros, mind if we take the concepts for some of your games? And some of your devs too while we're at it. Kthxbye

>>532384708
I can't be bitter when Sonic 1 was just 'Mario but with speedrunning, environmentalism, cyberpunk, and looney tunes'

>>532384430
>>532384784
>same filename structure
Same poster?

>>532384708
We never deserved them in the first place, take em. Looks like they're already doing better than they were with us. The second you leave Sonic, you flourish, it seems.

>>532384894
Except Christian Whitehead

>>532384973
Yeah, It's a shame that PBB didn't take off, but they should have had a better design.

>>532384547
NTA but that is literally a Sonic character

>>532384547
Not off-topic.

>>532385069
They needed tits.
Sex sells.

>>532384281
Yeah it makes no sense
Last year I've come to the realization that a lot of what's enjoyable about the movies isn't really the movies themselves but the hype around them. I didn't want to admit it at first because I enjoyed my experience watching the first movie in theaters and it's kinda embarrassing to get caught into the marketing like that I guess, but that's really what it is, everyone's talking about it and that just feels more enjoyable, even if the majority movie itself kinda sucks (still love the parts with Tails though lol). I also realized I wasn't going to have that experience with movie 3, so I ended up not having watched it yet. I will at some point but idk

>>532384330
We have so much power over you

>>532385069
I'm gonna be honest that game just doesn't look that interesting and it's not just the design. It looks perfectly fine but idk I think they focused too much on physics and less on an interesting video game

>>532385139
Shit posters don't actually know anything about Sonic

>>532384330
Because you’re mentally weak and can’t form your own opinions

>>532385280
Yeah, when I was playing it, I got to like Level 5, it still had the same music and atmosphere and I'm like "okay, fuck this" and went back to playing Spark 3.

>>532384827
I find it more upsetting that people unironically believe anything Mario does has no inspiration and is 100% original

>>532385280
Definitely a tech demo, so you would think they're working on a fully realised sequel but who knows

>>532385273
The movies are disposable entertainment like most blockbusters. They're a fun carnival ride. There's nothing wrong with that but it's not something that will stick with you or do something particularly well. I appreciate movie 3 at least trying to have a moral or something like that but the rest is just more of the same

>>532383419
I never liked heroes. I remember being a kid at the time and playing games like GTA, Ratchet & Clank and Jak and Daxter, then I played Sonic Heroes and thought it was just buggy with bad controls, bad voice acting and not fun to play. It really soured my view on Sonic games

>>532384614
>>532384624
I hate those characters because they're not wrong
>Tails
There's nothing inherently interesting about Tails, and it's so bad, their fans just want to fuck him.
>Amy
Sonamyfags see her as Sonic's cum socket. Any attempt to make her likeable is seen negative (see Archie, she's called a girlboss by the haters even though it's not like that)
>Shadow
Same as tailspedos, Shadow is their cum dispenser and they have to resort to making shit up about his personality because he isn't interesting either.
>Whisper
She's a whimpering lesbian, Whispercel isn't wrong about making fun of her.
>Tangle
Cool character turned into a lesbian. She lost all her personality due to the LGBT agenda and became Whisper's full-sized body pillow. It's Evan's fault.
>Post Reboot Freedom Fighters
Hollow shells of their former self because Ian was pissy about mandates and can't write even if his life depended on it.
>Windnic
There’s nothing remotely interesting about Gary-Stus. Windfags aren’t wrong about Sonic being in character, but the manga proved he simply isn’t compelling.
>Maria
Cute character turned into a martyr by her schizo fans. This is the only instance where I hate the character because of the fans alone because there is absolutely nothing wrong about her.

>>532385742 (me)
For Amy, I meant IDW. People think she's a girlboss because she used to manage the Restoration.

>>532385868
>SHILL GET
What did they mean by this

>>532385652
Yeah basically. Movie 1 stuck with me, but that has way more to do with the social experience associated with it than the movie itself. I think that applies to many things and it can be hard to separate them sometimes, so people are more inclined to praise it or excuse things that they would otherwise hate

IDW IS STILL GOING TO SUCK.
BELLE SUCKS!
THERE IS NOTHING GOOD ABOUT THAT CHARACTER!

STOP BRINGING HER BACK!

>>532384236
I thought Legacy was dead. Tempest a cute though.

>>532385742
>I hate those characters because
Not reading the rest of your goalpost moving nonsense. You already said the reason: you hate them because we like them/post them in the thread. You are our little bitch slave when it comes to how you engage with the Sonic series

>>532386036
>belle is involved
i think it's a good thing we will have this resolved asap

>>532386036
Sage's only role will be to comment on how Eggman loves the wrong daughter.

He should love our OC.

>Belle
>the useless fucking Eggman daughter who they can't actually have be Eggman's daughter because muh Sonic team tism
>Belle, the Evan Stanley self-insert that's entirely unimportant and irrelevant
>Belle, the badnik redeemer trying to redeem a character who CANNOT be redeemed because they're a staple of the villains cast
WOW IM SO EXCITED
GUYS IVE NEVER BEEN SO EXCITED BEFORE

>>532386013
I don't like saying why people like or dislike things it feels a little condescending and devaluing. Not saying you're any of that.

What I think about the movies is just my perspective. If someone genuinely likes them then good for them

We're going to post-Frontiers immediately at 84 https://x.com/IDWPublishing/status/1948042981862170709

Is Belle a worse character than Christopher Thorndyke?

>>532386452
no

>>532386414
It involves Belle so it sucks.
Also the timeline is fucked. It is going to make little sense where Frontiers is placed in the timeline.

>>532386414
Oh boy, how exciting. Sonic cheerleader #99987, except on the bad guys’ side now, floating around talking about how “deep and wise” fagnic is

>>532386516
>Also the timeline is fucked
no?

>>532386414
>We're finally leaving the Forces arc
I can't wait until #84 comes out in 3 years time after delays!

>>532386036
>this is going to be canon
IDW you have one job. don't fuck it up

>>532386452
Yes

>>532386516
What makes it make no sense? It's clear that whatever happens in 81-83 makes the emeralds scatter to the Starfall islands, Frontiers happens and then 84 moves onto blue sage arc.

I like Sonic

>>532386036
>>532386414
Oh I thought IDW was gonna have a little transition leading into Frontiers

>>532386540
Where do you place Frontiers in IDW where it makes sense?

>>532386650
I love Sonic (pre-2010)!

>>532386647
It's not clear at all that's what's going to happen.

All we know is they're seeking out a chaos Emerald there.

>>532386663
after #83?

The fandom will make you fucking hate Sonic

God the M&S games were weird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-MuER-31SI

>Tangle mentioned in Frontiers
>Sage in IDW
>"Not canon" fags seething

>>532386762
Brother, have you seen the games?

Tails would call you a nigger.

>>532386554
When has IDW ever done something correctly?

>>532386452
Chris wasn't that bad of a character, it's just that the way Sonic X is structured ended up dragging on his character arc for 52 episodes

>>532386368
This

She looks like she fucks human men

>>532386810
and yet you're still here

>>532386793

>>532386452
Belle is infinitely less fun to read than Chris is to watch.

>>532386757
This is assuming that 83 ends on a note that is fairly conclusive. If it isn't then we have to ask why Sonic never references the comic events during Frontiers.

>>532386951
Yeah I like the characters, music and older games, why woudln't I be?

>>532386382
Good point. I was just thinking on my experience and I thought I might not be alone, but you're right, I shouldn't speak for others. I get annoyed when that's done to me
I agree with you though, at least on the first two movies, can't speak on 3 yet. Especially on movie 1. It's enjoyable but there's nothing about it that I find particularly great or anything, it's just a random comedy movie

>>532386414
I doubt they'll manage to do anything interesting with Sage, even her debut game failed, but I wanted them to keep her around in later games/media and at least the art should be nice

>>532386752
>>532387060
The summary of the arc states that six of the seven go missing. It's also being describe as a fresh start entry point for new readers. https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sonic-the-hedgehog-comic-introduces-new-characters-location-this-fall/1100-6531669/

The Sonic the Hedgehog comic from IDW is introducing a new story arc this fall, positioning it as a jumping-on point for new readers. The story revolves around familiar characters and elements like Shadow and the Chaos Emeralds, while introducing a new locale for the gang to explore. The story arc, called "The Stage Is Set," starts in September.

The three-issue arc will start with Sonic the Hedgehog #81. After six of the seven Chaos Emeralds go missing, Sonic and Tails go on a frantic search for the seventh. That hunt leads them to Sequin, a luxurious city that happens to be in the midst of a massive carnival. They quickly discover they're not alone, however, as Shadow and Rouge are searching for the final emerald as well

>>532384560
Thunderbolt...

>>532384629
What youre describing happens a lot, I'm mostly talking about the "sonic was never good" people flip flopping on the older titles these games. Now that the movies made is socially acceptable to like sonic again.

>>532386951
It's only because: >>532386732.
I like what this little funny cartoon rat USED to be.

And now our final connections to this game are over

Thoughts?

Sage is devoted to serving the Eggman empire. She's not going to show sympathy for a delusional puppet working for the enemy. Metal slapped her to the side. So Sage will likely tell her to fuck off.

>>532387060
#83 already ended
>we have to ask why Sonic never references the comic events during Frontiers
did sonic make any unleashed referenced in colours

>>532386815
if so, I’m bullying him about his two tail’s, he’d probably cum as well

>>532387123
Okay but like Sonic is going to have all the Chaos Emeralds or at least know that they all scattered across the world again after Frontiers.

This would be fine if 83 ended on a note that doesn't bleed into another story but IDW doesn't like to do that

>>532387302
LET'S FUCKING GOOO
FUCK FORCES

So I guess they are doubling down on Sage being blue and white now between this and crossworlds. A shame honestly, the red and black was much more distinct and fit better with eggman

>>532387302
Forces was the actual worst Sonic game because it perfectly depicts corporate greed and a failure to understand Sonic as a character. It's the perfect example of creative death.

>>532387302
why is the wolf aqua, he’s supposed to be red

>>532387325
Sonic references all sorts of past events in Frontiers and those games didn't take place in the middle of an ongoing storyline.

Flynn made this awkward by having Sonic reference everything In that game it would make perfect sense that he would reference events that are still ongoing.

>>532386554
it just makes me sad that Belle's real father is dead, that Mr. Tinker was essentially murdered. The only thing that Belle has left is the letter she received. Tinker deserved so much better

>>532387039
>Everything is canon
Even crossovers? YAHOO

>>532387479
Being around Sonic means you're gonna get redeemed. Remember to live free unless it goes against Sonic's specific moral compass.

>>532387352
>83 ended on a note that doesn't bleed into another story
It'll probably be some background plot involving an oc so that you can say something was going on while the core 4 fucked off to do frontiers and then they come back to a new comic plot

>>532386793
The thing is that that canon only goes one way. Tangle being name dropped doesn't even make IDW itself canon, just Tangle as a character, and even then whether or not she even appears in a mainline game is up in the air.

>>532387586
have you forgotten about tangle

>>532387302
Mobile version is still getting updates.

>>532387658
Meant for: >>532387405

>>532387129
I need him

>>532387520
Aqua? that's green

>>532387660
Don't you think you're giving the writers too much credit? We already have a timeline problem with TailsTube and the Restoration HQ.

>>532387302
I miss it.
I wish they went further and had more resistance fighter Sonic stuff by introducing Sally Acorn to the games instead of having Knuckles as the resistance's leader but beggars can't be choosers.
I like the avatar.
I like the level design but I wish it was more challenging, had a hard mode, or had more of a post game.
Good mod scene.
Overhated.
Cannot be blamed for Evan and Ian not knowing how to write.
Better atmosphere and story than Frontiers.
Good game. Solid 7/10.

>>532386414
>post-Frontiers
Oh christ now it's going to be even more fucking melodramatic

>>532387783
It was one character reference not an ongoing plotline reference.
Actually referencing Tangle makes this worse because it shows that the comics and games share the same continuity.

>>532385742
You still mentioned other people in all of these….

>>532385742
Is she not a martyr, though? Her wish for Shadow is meaningful precisely because humans killed her.

>>532387606

>>532387907
character that was introduced after forces
>not an ongoing plotline reference.
doesnt matter
>Actually referencing Tangle makes this worse
what

>>532387185
Fair

>>532387302
I wish it and the media surrounding it were better because there was some good stuff in there

>>532387831
>timeline problem with TailsTube and the Restoration HQ
It's not really a problem, they can just retcon it to being "the people" like they said at the end of 75

>>532388050
You understand that the comic is probably going to set up a new ongoing storyline and it's not actually going to be a self-contained story.

So more than likely Sonic is going to put some events on hold and go on an adventure never referencing it.

>>532387606
>There is no obstacle that stands in my way
Should've been "There aren't obstacles that ever get in my way" so it flows better with the original song

>>532388146
That was referring to the Restoration as a concept. The HQ part specifically refers to the location.

>>532387606
Yeah when Sage and Belle meet it's going to be awkward ESPECIALLY after how Eggman referred to Sage as his daughter in Frontiers and treated her like his own flesh and blood. Sage has what Belle doesn't and never will have. As retarded as this sounds, it does to an extent sound like better drama potential than most of the shit with Whisper

>>532387302
Good fucking riddance rip bozo smoking on Forces PACK nigga

How hard would it reasonably to corrupt Belle? She is just a robot at the end of that day.

>>532387302
Speed Battle is still getting updates

>>532388169
what events
what the fuck are you talking about

>>532387302
The Restoration is probably coming back.

>>532388330
Burn that overly emotional piece of wood.

>>532388434
Issue 83 is probably going to end on some kind of cliffhanger to be picked up in another story.

>>532388259
"The people" can still come together in that location and have it be known as the hq, but in spirit. Easy and done

>>532388530
IT ALREADY ENDED, MORON
IN ANNUAL 2024

>>532388609
Flynn was asked about this and flat out refused to explain so I think that you have thought this through more than he has at least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPmSRfN1jBk

<3

I believe idw will cross 100, but it'll still sucks ass by then.

>>532387871
HOLD

>>532386554
>>532387308
>metal sonic back handing belle
>sage threatening to kill belle while bella is down on the ground
sibling team work

>>532388643
The storyline is referencing issue 80 which is its own storyline.

It does not reference 81 when this storyline actually starts.

>>532388837
Evan claimed this was her storyline though

>>532388971
They're both introducing Sage to the comic at the same time not knowing that the other writer is too

>the only reason to have hype is a fucking loli
>not even a flesh and bone character

>>532389042
Are you kidding me?

blaze is brazilian

>>532388794
There's no way. IDW won't even be alive then.

>>532388865
tails and amy aren't #80
they will fly to that carnival city at the end of #80!!!

>>532389138
The biggest reason I'm convinced that this won't end cleanly is Evan doesn't want to write a self-contained story.

Hmm. I will do it myself then. I will write my own comic.

>Vector is italian
>Waluigi is a fucking jew
God this is cursed already

>>532389061
Shut up Belle

Tails and Amy talking about how much they love Sonic with each other!
Tails and Amy inspiring each other and bringing out the best in one another!
Tails and Amy spending time together when the wind isn't around!
Tails and Amy playing with cards together!
Tails and Amy cuddling during a thunderstorm, making Tails scared and Amy helping calm him down!
Tails and Amy!

>>532387606
This was actually fun in retrospect. Sad how the comic went to complete shit.

>>532389314
It's Hungary's flag not Italy's

>>532389314
>>532389314
>italian

>>532357648
What are you supposed to acknowledge with him? He was so unknown during the war that only Sonic, Shadow, Silver and the Avatar knew he existed. Shadow couldn't care less about him and Avatar fucked off so are Sonic and Silver just supposed to talk about he kicked their asses?

>>532389314
That's hungary not italy you fucking sped

WHISPY DISPY DOO!

>>532389132
It's a bet then, but i warn you, i'm a nothing-ever-happen-ist and a follower of chudda.

>>532389314
You looked at Waluigi's nose and you thought he wasn't Jewish?

Sage and the comics are boring can we talk about something else now

>>532389337
NEW TailsTube?
https://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1948050478061039713

>>532389507
Any good bet has good stakes. If I lose, and IDW prints Sonic issue #101, I will play the entirety of Sonic 06 Vanilla.

>>532388837
And we're fucked, immediately

>Eggman is Mexican
Is this canon?
>>532389478
Oops, my bad, I'm not the best flag aficionado.

Did anything cool happen today?

>>532389534
Here
>>532389618

>>532389701
that HEDGEHOG foiled my plans again? NO MAMES, NO MAME WEY!

>>532389314
That's not Italy you fat fucking redneck

>>532389663
and... if i lose?

>>532389701
What is this from?

how aren't they ashamed of putting these models against 2d art

>>532389701
the egg is strong, it makes sense he is mexican

>>532389618
This is bad Sonic is too rude and easily bored especially to Tails.

KWAB
>>532389875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPmSRfN1jBk

>>532389868
I dunno, I can't hold you accountable anyways, so you decide what you wanna do.

>>532389842
tails was trying to break free from his coding to escape from his death

>>532389618
you can tell it was made by ian by how offensive sonic is to shadow
and all these fakers lines

>>532389842
Don't worry Tails is immortal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGlSE9l_7eg
I'm so excited for Crossworlds bros

>>532390102
This feels like it was written by Hesse.

>>532389821
Thanks!

Okay I don't care about this but that Sonic and Tails art is nice

>>532389926
I through silver’s ass was facing the camera in mid air

straya

The only possibly interesting narrative for Belle and Sage that I can see that actually plays into Belle's development and isn't just "what do you have that I don't" is to have Sage be trying to take control of Belle and the other Badniks that she's managed to salvage (hell even bring in Omega and Gemerl while you're at it) to return them to fold while Belle actively and willfully opposes any attempts to force herself and other former Eggman robots to rejoin the empire.

>>532390319
>'sno use, ya punta!

Meh it was alright I guess I'm here for the Sonails

>>532389985
i have no fantasy so i guess i'll make a cringe vocaroo and shame my favorite foxes, all of em

Canon team

No. I'm still mad.
>no unique locations
>no NPCs
>no sidequests
>no minigames
>no factions
When you say "open world" I expect an open WORLD, dammit. A lived in setting in which things are happening. These islands are just a bunch of Unity tutorial maps slapped together and filled with vaguely puzzle-y busywork bullshit. Fuck this game, fuck Sonic Team, and fuck anyone who bought this. You people have no standards. Fucking hell.

>>532390528
The monkeys and Amy

Yesterday, I learned Atari is still making 2600 and 7800 carts and consoles. Yes, they are still in the console business in 2025, the year of our Lord. Why the fuck isn't Sega still making Genesis/Mega Drives consoles and cartridges? Evidently, people will still buy buy them.

>>532390515
It's a bet anon! Thanks for being a good sport with me. See you at issue #100!

>>532387721
>Canon only goes one way
Just say you don't know what canon means, retard

>>532390580
It was Open Zone anon, completely different!

>>532390618
kek

>>532390631
SOA intern lurkers take notes

>>532389663
Play the DLCs as well

When has IDW remotely delivered on hype here?

Everything this place has been hyped for in the comic has been met with massive disappointment.

>>532389689
Danny couldn't write his way out of a wet paper bag

I've seen more Amy than Jet in Crossworlds' ads to this moment

>>532390631
I mean technically Sega still makes consoles too if you count those plug n plays

>>532390665
alright, see ya bro at the end of the line

>>532390759
The only hype was when it started because we were excited for a fresh story. However.

>>532390759
People got hyped for IDW? Who the hell gets hyped for a C-list comic book that isn't named "Transformers" or "G.I. Joe"?

>>532390759
/sthg/ used to love IDW in its early years

>>532390319
Downunda.

>>532390865
Yeah but now this place is trying to pretend that they never liked it.

This place liked IDW until Shadow Jobbed to the zombots but still defended it until the end of Metal Virus.

>>532390831
If it doesn't play actual carts, it doesn't count. The Atari consoles do play the old carts along with the new ones.

I'm starting to grow fond of Charmy

>>532390842
>the cuteness is too great
>both shadow and sonic fainted
>tails is crying behind a rock from jealousy

i love tinker and eggman god dammit

>>532390759
>Here

That's your problem. /Sthg/s opinion is a meaningless drop. On a good day, you MIGHT have a few dozen true individual posters here. There are less people here than there are in fan comic or artists discord servers or on any Sonic related subreddit.

>>532391104

>>532391051
charmy would be cuter if she stopped pretending to be a boy

>>532390465

this looks like cheating

>>532391060
anon a child is playing with a gun!

>>532391115
I have been here for several years, that is why I say that /sthg/ has always been let down by IDW.

>>532391324
yes, I know, she’s getting to be the strongest child there ever was, the ultimate child bunny

So how bad of a failed character is Belle? She has no coomers, no shippers, no actual legitimate fans, and she got mogged by Sega via Sage. Where does that rank in the Sonic the Hedgehog chronic series depression scale?

>>532391445
>So how bad of a failed character is Belle?
she’s a robot made out of wood

>>532391576
With a personality to match

>>532391396
People here loved Belle when she was new lol

>>532390759
I liked it well enough up untl the Metal Virus arc and then it went right down the fucking drain

>>532391657
No they did not I can pull up her reveal. It is still archived.

>>532391726
I felt the Metal Virus stuff was dragging and it especially didn't help around that time we were all dealing with Covid, so I def didn't wanna think about all that. Stopped reading then, almost picked it back up until I saw Issue 50 and decided that was enough.

I like how IDW only started to pick up in popularity with the Metal Virus arc and nowadays you guys say that's when the comic dropped off lol

>>532391445
Worse than Elise.

>>532391445
They really should’ve just let her go off to Scrapnik instead of reopening the wound with Sage. I’m tired of interpersonal drama

>>532391835
I wasn't in the reveal thread, but I clearly remember her getting praised when she was new, enough that I was eventually surprised that more and more people turned against her

>>532391445
she's cute, but it's clear nobody likes her
a shame too

>>532391903
Given how we talk about the movies, we just hate when things get more successful than the games. Crabs in the bucket scenario. If anything is more beloved than the piece of shit games we've been getting since 2010, it's considered "slop" here and makes them all upset.

>>532391646
but if she was made by dynamite tree wood, when belle would be an badass

>>532391396
This place isn't a hivemind. I like IDW and I've been here since the Archie years. Feel free to speak for yourself but don't generalize the whole board to suit your own opinion.

>>532391903
Popularity does not equal quality.
I would aruge a lot of that "popularity" was more to do with infamy, akin to Shadow's jobbing pissing a lot of people off.

>>532391910
That's easy to pull off, Elise is a good character

>>532391957
Here is Belle's reveal

https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/309468395/#309477163

>>532392131
Well then you decide to spend time in a thread that does nothing but shit on things you like

>>532392131
How do you feel about windnic

>>532392056
The comics were only more successful than the games until Frontiers came out, and even that is debatable.

>>532390851
it took Transformers leaving IDW to get good again

>>532392056
IDW never surpassed the games in popularity, all I said was that the comic started to get more followers around the arc that /sthg/ considers it fell off

>>532392156
I agree 100% I wasn't trying to imply anything just making an observation. I remember when the Neo Metal arc was going on and most fans weren't paying much attention even when it had Super Neo Metal at the end. It was during the Metal Virus arc where I saw fans talking about the comic more

>>532392608
The last 5 threads have talked about IDW endlessly. Nary but a couple anons posted about Crossworlds.

>>532392536
Again, generalizing. People like you can't see the forest for the trees. I just ignore posts I don't like.

>>532392557
Like this one. I'm ignoring this one because I'm not a retard.

>>532392653
did them vultures do that to megatron

IDW bankrupt in 2 more weeks trust the plan bros

>>532392774
That is because crossworlds looks good enough and there is not much content to talk about anymore.

This place spent weeks complaining about the DLC though.

If IDW was better it would be talked about less

>>532391396
because if the staffs weren't a bunch of troonies and shut their fucking mouth, people will not hate this comic and wishing it to die.

>>532392774
/sthg/ isn't indicative of anything, the games make more money and are more relevant than the IDW comics

>>532392924
Are you genuinely retarded?

>>532392831
no falling from space and getting found by snake people did, he got better

>>532392801
The forest is mostly made of trees that hate you though.

>>532392997
It's just a pattern you can notice. Everything GOOD mostly does not get talked about.

>>532393106
So. Yes.

>>532361863
Gigi does the same shit too, even though both her and Barnes have contributed jack shit in the grand scheme of things