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>>532642496You're confusing him with Cream. Cream is the actual child character. She has a mom because her entire personality is being a polite, well-behaved kid who needs that parental figure. Tails has always been shown to be more independent and self-sufficient. He's mentally older and can take care of himself. He is shown even taking care of Sonic now.
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Tails is a child can't consent to sex.
>>532644758 (OP)>Everyone looking happy except Blaze and MarineWhat do they know?
I'm glad I didn't use the last thread.
>>532644708It was said somewhere on an official website that Cream specifically is capable of keeping up with Sonic. And as the "Girl Tails" character, that should not be any surprise.
Sonic Advance 2 introduces "Boost Mode" where everyone breaks the sound barrier, and Cream DEBUTS in this very game. Sonic Advance 2, more than anything else, is her DEFINING appearance. Or should we completely ignore Sonic 2 and say that Tails can't keep up with Sonic at all, can't fight, can't do NOTHING but fly a plane?
>This bastardizes Sonic's speed as something anyone can achieve.Also, no the heck it doesn't.
Sonic is the lead mascot main protagonist of the entire series, so every other significant playable character is built from that same mold. Just as Batman has an entire Bat family, and Superman has a Super family, and Flash has a Flash family... The "Sonic" family are all speedsters that can break the sound barrier and spin dash. This doesn't trivialize Sonic, because the entire point with him is that he is the FASTEST THING ALIVE.
Cream the Rabbit being able to keep up like Tails or anybody else does, doesn't change that.
>>532645462No ship is official tho.
>>532645419>>Everyone looking happy except Blaze and Marine>What do they know?That they're in the game vault, only marginally in a slightly better place than idw oc filth.
>>532645223>He's mentally olderMiles "Tails" Prower IS AN EIGHT YEAR OLD CHILD.
PERIOD.
STOP TRYING TO IGNORE THAT.
TAILS IS A CHILD. TAILS IS A KID. TAILS IS THE "LITTLE BROTHER" CHARACTER.
HAVING AN IQ OF 300, 400, OR EVEN INFINITY DOES NOT, AND NEVER WILL, CHANGE THE FACT THAT TAILS IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO BE THE "KID" CHARACTER OF THE FRANCHISE.
And Cream is just the "Girl" version of Tails. Vanilla existing doesn't change that, either.
>>532645820Nah, we Krackalackin'
>>532645818Sega got rid of ages and is now writing him the same age as Amy.
Cream is actually written like a child.
>>532645818With an IQ like that technically Tails would be raping Sonic.
>>532645590Tails is independent and Cream isn't. Tails is a genius and Cream isn't. Tails was never just a kid, while Cream's whole character is nothing beyond an innocent little girl. She's a plot character
>Sonic is the lead mascot main protagonist of the entire series, so every other significant playable character is built from that same moldYes for GAMEPLAY purposes it makes sense all characters would play the same way. That doesn't mean that fucking Charmy Bee is able to keep up with Sonic because all characters are similar in speed in Heroes.
>>532646085>Sega got rid of agesDoesn't change that he is still very clearly a child.
>and is now writing him the same age as Amy.You made that up.
>Cream is actually written like a child.Cream is written like a Girl Tails. Because that's what she is.
Both Tails and Cream are "kid sibling" characters, and share the same portrayal of being young kids with great potential that the older characters encourage and mentor or whatever.
>>53264634211th! But hooray all the same
>>532645818Tails's actions are those of a responsible homeowner and provider. He's the "little brother" who's more of a fucking adult than the actual adult in the relationship. Sonic is the one with the maturity of a child, running from any responsibility, while Tails is the one keeping the lights on. Cream is the one who needs to be taken care of by an actual parent. Cream is the one who gets scared easily and constantly needs help.
The only time Tails is a "helpless kid" is when the writing is absolute dogshit and they need to flanderize him into a crying coward to make Sonic look good. The rest of the time, he's the competent partner who keeps the entire operation running while Sonic gets to have all the fun. He's not a tag-along, he's the sidekick, mission support, and Sonic's landlord
>>532646172>Yes for GAMEPLAY purposesThere's no separation here.
Also, Charmy Bee was stated in Chaotix to be the fastest insect in the world as well, and he is still very clearly super-fast because flying around at high speeds is his whole thing. So that's the worst example you could have picked.
Regardless, Cream is nearly as fast as Sonic, just like Tails is, and Amy is, and Knuckles is. Cream does the same things Tails does since the classics. Not having the specific trait of being a super-genius doesn't make her any less capable, she's still smart for her age regardless because of being the disciplined type, and is able to keep up as I've pointed out already.
Cream isn't any less of a kid or a hero than Tails is, or vise versa.
>>532646342>zombie post of yet another never coming back artist/sthg/ feels hollow
>Mario and Peach are "good friends"
>Sonic and Amy are "besties"
What the FUCK is going on? Abe didn't die for this shit.
Marine isn't Blaze'e sidekick and she doesn't have hydrokinesis.
>>532646579Cream is as brave as Tails is, and has the same dynamic with Amy that you're parodying about Sonic & Tails.
Whenever Amy is about to do something crazy or dive head first into something out of blind intuition, Cream is the first one to criticize or question this but goes along with it anyway. Just as Tails would with Sonic.
>>532646579>He's not a tag-along, he's the sidekick, mission support, and Sonic's landlordTails IS the tag-along kid, that's the entire reason he was created as a sidekick. He's not "Sonic's landlord", Sonic doesn't live with Tails or anywhere because he's a free-spirited nomad.
Stop trying to downplay SONIC to make Tails look better. That's just as stupid as downplaying Tails to make Sonic look better.
>>532646870>hotVectorbros...
>>532646270>You made that upNo he didnโt Sparktard. In fact theyโve always been written the same age.
In all the Classic games Tails disdains Any and leaves her behind because sheโs not mature enough to help unlike him. In Adventure 2 he tells her to stay away because Tails needs to protect her and sheโs not fit to help unlike him. In X both Tails and Amy have to BABYSIT Cream. In Battle Amy has to babysit Cream again. Amy has never been portrayed more mature than Tails is or a mentor figure, she is written the exact same as he is and if anything less mature than Tails is.
Cream is also never mentored or encouraged, she is discouraged and told to stay behind because sheโs not good enough to help. In Rush she gets kidnapped and Tails even babies her and tells her to get away from Blaze because she doesnโt know what sheโs doing. Then they all have to save her. Cream never assists in Rush unlike Tails, only gets kidnapped and cries and has to get rescued by Blaze, sheโs not a sidekick. Same in Sonic Channel, and Battle, and Shadow 05, Creamโs role isnโt to be a sidekick itโs to be a little baby who gets kidnapped, who Sonic has to rescue and who gets told sheโs not old or mature enough to come.
Sonic even tells her to her face in Sonic Channel she is too much of a little baby to come along or help him on adventures, and he is vindicated for it when she tries to, pussies out, cries and admits at the end that le Sonikku is right and that sheโs still not ready to fight anyone yet or help. That has never, ever, been a problem for Tails.
Tails is part of the group that reacues, coddles and babysits Cream and Amy. Cream is part of the group that only gets told to stay behind because they only see her as a helpless little baby.
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>>532646596You are nothing beyond a reductionist. You don't know how to distinguish characters beyond shallow readings of their roles/archetypes, which leads you to asinine conclusions like "Cream and Tails are on the same ground" when they very clearly aren't
Cream can't compete with Tails because Tails has more experience, is faster, is more independent and has a much superior intellect. Tails isn't just a kid, he's a prodigy with great potential and nuance. Cream lacks both. She's a plot character
It might sound like I hate Cream, but that's not the case. I don't hate one note characters like Cream if they're well utilized. I'm just trying to correct your false assumptions
>>532646870Vanilla looks like she ate Vector whole.
>>532646870Ew. Twitter is such cancer
>>532646870>>532647038Would Vanilla be into Vector's 12 centimeters?
>>532647276That graph is fake info, trying to scale saying saltcrocodiles are 300cm when theyโre 6-7 meters
>>532647012You're completely stuck in the past. Tails has grown. He's Nightwing now. He started as the kid sidekick, grew into his own hero, has his own base and resources, but still helps out his mentor. To still call him Robin is to admit you haven't paid attention in 30 years.
>He's not "Sonic's landlord", Sonic doesn't live with Tails or anywhere because he's a free-spirited nomad.Have you even watched TailsTube, you absolute lorelet? Tails directly states that Sonic sleeps over at his various workshops all the time. That "free-spirited nomad" shit is just a romantic way of saying he's a homeless bum who crashes on his little brother's couch. Tails has property. Tails has a stable home. Sonic does not. These are just facts presented in recent official media.
>>532647168>>532647151All this essay only for no one to realize that it doesnโt matter how much more mature Tails. Cream is only excluded on the measure of things being dangerous for a kid. Nothing about intelligence or experience. And then you realize itโs all bs because Charmy can go to war, but she canโt despite him being a stupid baby 6 year old like her.
>>532647168>It might sound like I hate Cream, but that's not the case.You're investing a lot of energy into downplaying Cream as much as possible, to make Tails look better.
Tails is my favorite character, but you sound offended that Cream of all people is being compared to him. That's ridiculous, because Cream very much IS supposed to be a female equivalent to Tails and his role. Cream in Sonic Advance 2 is no different from Tails in Sonic 2. She's fast, strong, skilled, capable, has helped defeat Eggman and his robots, fought to save her mother and Chocola, was a valuable member of Team Rose, had an entire training arc all about overcoming her aversion to "violence", and so on.
The root of what you're trying to say is like "Cream could never be on Tails' level" which is just flat-out false, given how she's been handled in the games she's playable in.
I was saying in the other thread that Cream shouldn't be in the Core 4 because she's just Tails again but female, because that is ENTIRELY what she is, and she should NOT be given this much disrespect from you. She is to Amy, as Tails is to Sonic. And is even more like Tails than Amy is like Sonic, as well.
Cream being a polite little girl under the strict discipline of her mother only reinforces the same exact personality traits that she shares with Tails. If I were to assign MBTI personality types to everyone, Tails and Cream would both be ISFJ because their personalities and traits are THAT cognitively identical. Of course, they aren't literally 1:1 the exact same character, but that's not the point. I'm not a "reductionist" either. I analyze the connections and patterns between things, that's all.
>She's a plot characterAnd what the heck is that even supposed to mean!?
>>532644758 (OP)HOT CHICK HEAVEN
>>532647662>Tails has grown. He's Nightwing now.THIS is false.
I WISH Tails would become Nightwing now. That is exactly what I WANT. But, it has yet to ACTUALLY happen. He is 100% still Robin. He's barely Teen Titans Robin, as of now. First, he needs to actually reach THAT level of simply being the Leader character who can not only do things entirely on his own, but also lead an entire cast of characters all following HIM. I fully believe that should be the next step for Tails. But regardless, Tails is still "Robin" level. The adventure games were both pushing him out of Sonic's shadow, yes, but that itself isn't full graduation to Nightwing-tier.
That is just the honest truth, from the same guy who wants to see Tails pierce the heavens and be like Simon. Actually, using Gurren Lagann as the reference point, Tails has experienced the equivalent of Kamina's death and defeating Lordgenome, but he has NOT experienced the middle section between those two points where Simon became the new leader of Team Dai-Gurren. That's what Tails is missing, before he can fully become Nightwing.
>>532647662>Tails directly states that Sonic sleeps over at his various workshops all the time.No, there was an entire TailsTube between Tails and Amy where they both explain that Sonic doesn't live ANYWHERE. He only crashes at Tails' house once in a while.
>>532647662>That "free-spirited nomad" shit is just a romantic way of saying he's a homeless bum who crashes on his little brother's couch.No, that's just you hating on Sonic because you're blaming Sonic for Tails' character mismanagement.
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>>532647954>because she's just Tails again but female, because that is ENTIRELY what she isNo she fucking isn't. I already explained to you that Cream isn't on the same level as Tails. Funny how you completely disregard Tails' intelligence only to gas up Cream when that is a VERY important part of Tails as a character, and is COMPLETELY ABSENT in Cream. Cream was NEVER a prodigy like Tails, a shit ton of characters went on adventures that doesn't necessarily make them special
I'm done talking with you. You're nothing but a reductionist that doesn't see who the characters are, but what you think they represent (which is also wrong)
And don't compare the powerful dynamic and relationship of Sonic and Tails to the nothingburger of Tails and Amy
>Cartoon character with cartoon logic made for cartoon action
>"acktually this character is inferior to this other character, even though this other character is used as a damsel in distress for the main heroes to save without any sort of respect"
Imagine even engaging with the autists around here.
>>532648837>No she fucking isn't. I already explained to you that Cream isn't on the same level as Tails.You're no better than that other guy who hates on Sonic all the time just to "gas up" Tails.
Tails is my absolute favorite character of all time, across all of fiction, and his character archetype is also my personal favorite as well, and Cream is exactly that archetype. Saying she isn't is just ignoring how she's actually been presented in the games. She very much is an analogue for Tails, as that's what she's designed to be for Amy and Team Rose. How well that's been handled is beside the point, I have my own criticisms on that.
But Cream shouldn't be disrespected this much. Tails may be my favorite character, but I don't understand how much some of you guys just either don't care for or outright despise the other characters in the series.
>>532648837>You're nothing but a reductionistNo, I am not. I pay attention to every single detail, and I try to understand everything holistically to the best of my ability, and gain the most accurate and clear picture of everything that I can. And so when I describe things, I try to get the general core idea across as simply as possible, to make it easier to understand.
I know the difference between Tails and Cream. But that difference is not "Tails is better and cooler, Cream is just a baby" because that's just insulting.
More IDW characters are coming to Blitz. The main account also said that they wish they could answer about Archie characters, but they are more complicated
>>532645604>pour your heart and soul into the SA3 outline>Sega tells you Dreamcast is dead and we're going full third-party, disappointing but not unexpected>some hanger-on upstart tells you that SA3 isn't going to cut it since Sonic needs to reach the multiplatform audience with a soft reboot, after you JUST did one a few years ago>Sonic Adventure 3 is killed in favor of Sonic Heroes, not what you wanted but you can't complain since Iizuka seems like he was right>"Now we're going for the older audience!">good, that means we can do Sonic Adventure 3 now, right?>nope! Shadow the Hedgehog! With aliens! And guns! And Maria panties! okay maybe not that>you sign off on it because this Iizuka guy seems to be in touch with the gaijin, which you admittedly were not too good at>wow, that was a mistake... you start eyeing the internal tech demos your team has been making on the side for next-gen consoles, and take a deep breath...>Now's the time>Sonic Adventure 3>everyone just hectically throws ideas at a wall in a clear attempt to salvage their rep after Shadow'05, it can't possibly get worse>you insist we have a good plan, if you JUST liste->"NO WE NEED TO REBOOT SONIC AGAIN, GAMERS HAVE GOLDFISH MEMORIES, ALSO THE GAME IS CALLED 'SONIC THE HEDGEHOG' ALL CAPS.">...>Sonic the Hedgehog?>SONIC THE HEDGEHOG?!>I -AM- THE FATHER OF SONIC SINCE THE 90's, YOU SON OF A>...>you know what? not worth it. fine. quit. jump ship.>you watch as the game turns out more or less as you expected>you think to yourself that Sonic is over, it's a passing fad>a few years later, you check in>SONIC is STILL going!>and they took your SA3 ideas!>but it's morphed into this gay GoWerehog shit and Sonic controls like a racecar, wtf?>critics are saying they turned Sonic around but the werehog is gay shit>you want to strangle those segaturds but you decide to maintain dignity>years later, they attempt another ill-advised reboot and you're memed online by gaijin vying for control
>>532649485I already said I don't have anything against Cream. If your whole premise is "defending Cream" then you didn't understand what I've been trying to say
>No, I am not. I pay attention to every single detail, and I try to understand everything holistically to the best of my ability, and gain the most accurate and clear picture of everything that I can. I mean if you say so...
>>532648086I do sometimes wonder how Guptill would rank the "Top 10 Hottest Sonic Females" if he made the list today. There's a lot of new mobian beauties who could be contenders
>>532649991Guptill has very particular tastes, idk if any of the IDW girls would make the cut. Maybe whisper?
>>532646687Nothing, we went over this several threads ago.
Western girls were groomed into thinking friend=/=lover, Eastern girls understand their lover is their best friend.
Congratulations, you live in a fucked society.
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>>532650227Probably Lanolin. Just LOOK at those FOUR ponytails! Now we're talking!
>>532650227Whisper and Surge would make the cut for sure, based on his hair-admiring preferences.
>>532648649>THIS is false. I WISH Tails would become Nightwing now.Tails did that in SA1. He saved an entire city by himself. That was his graduation. The fact that he still helps Sonic doesn't negate that, just like Nightwing still helps Batman.
The only reason you think he's still "Robin" is because you're conflating the character's actual arc with the dogshit, inconsistent writing that has actively regressed him for the past decade. We all know he's been turned into a gutless coward in recent games, but that's a problem with the writing, not a reflection of his actual character status. You're defending the flanderization that everyone here hates.
>No, there was an entire TailsTube between Tails and Amy where they both explain that Sonic doesn't live ANYWHERE.You're arguing semantics like a fucking pedant. Who gives a shit if he "crashes there once in a while" versus "all the time"? The point, which flew right over your head, is that Tails *has* a home with workshops and resources, while Sonic is a "free-spirited" bum. One is a stable, self-sufficient adult (mentally, at least), and the other is a couch-surfing vagrant. The dynamic is still there.
>>532650228Byte is the best one here. Too bad she's in love with the dead gay duck.
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>>532649880I call Tails "Kid Sonic", for example, to describe Tails' role in the series as simply as possible.
The terminology is just based on "Kid Flash", who is The Flash's sidekick. And the original Kid Flash, Wally West, was a big fan of The Flash when he was first introduced. He looked up to the Flash, and then when they met, the lightning bolt that struck Barry ended up striking twice and now Wally had the same abilities Barry had. And then when Barry Allen died in the Crisis on Infinite Earths, Wally had to take up the mantle of the Flash. At first, he felt like he could never measure up to Barry. But once he broke out of that mindset, he ended up proving himself to be even faster than The Flash, and now Wally West is known as the Fastest Flash across all fiction redefining "super speed" so heavily that people believe he could solo any universe.
In short, "Kid Flash" is introduced as a Tails-like character for The Flash, and goes through an arc of breaking out of the Flash's shadow, becoming his own man, and then fully surpasses the original Flash. So when I call Tails "Kid Sonic", I am referring to this basic archetype. The prime example of that archetype being Robin.
I'm not saying that Tails is literally just Sonic as a kid, or that his entire character is just a copy of Sonic but as a child or however else "Kid Sonic" could be misconstrued. I'm also not implying Tails is literally 1:1 with Wally West or any other example I may refer to. Tails is Tails, and he personally is my favorite character because of who Tails is on his own.
When I compare Cream to Tails, I am comparing Cream to this same overall archetype as well as analyzing the overlapping traits shared between Cream and Tails themselves. Because they are very similar. But most of that seems to be glossed over with Cream because a lot of people just view her as a helpless baby, which is just outright false. It feels the same as when someone says that about Tails. So, I defend her as well.
Orbot and Cubot bros how are we feeling about the upcoming Sage IDW debut?
>>532650556This artist went full on self victimizing alphabet person and it one of those people who will start drama and then change their username like it's some kind of reset button. They schmooz with the IDW staff because they play the uwu poor widdle twans sonic awtist card. They ship their shitty child oc with Starline because I quote "queer characters should only be shipped with other queer characters".
>>532650379>Tails did that in SA1. He saved an entire city by himself. That was his graduation. Not really, no.
Sure, in my head, I always compare Tails' Speed Highway to the entire "What's Up Danger" sequence from Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, and Tails vs the Egg Walker to stop the missile is like Miles fighting Kingpin and officially introducing himself as the new Spider-Man... which COULD be seen as the same as a Nightwing graduation...
But even still, no. Because it's still missing the key point I was actually highlighting: Tails hasn't fully become a "Leader". The closest is how SA2 handles him, sort of. But even then, that's mostly just Sonic & Tails doing business as usual on the adventure, with Tails making plans because he's the smart guy. What Tails actually needs in order to truly "graduate" is to become a Leader that an entire team is rallying behind and following, just as they would otherwise with Sonic. Tails needs to fulfill the position of "Sonic" not only as the one to defeat Eggman, but the one that inspires and leads an entire team of heroes into that battle.
Tails needs to go from "Robin: Batman's Sidekick" to "Robin: Titans Leader" before he can truly become Nightwing. Even Miles in the Spider-Verse movie I was referencing becomes a Leader of sorts during the entire battle sequence at the end. Simon becomes the new leader of Team Dai-Gurren after Kamina's death. Tails needs to become a leader of his own.
Also:
Tails has workshops because he's a boy genius archetype, so he needs a place to do tech stuff in and keep all his stuff. Sonic is supposed to be a genuine nomadic world traveler, not some "bum". Hence why most games take place in entirely new continents or locations, and Tails has "workshops" all over the place as a result since he has to be here as well.
>>532651307>queer characters should only be shipped with other queer charactersThat's funny because I remember even Ian saying that Starline was never intended to be gay, just theatrical and overdramatic.
>>532650228Are all of these OC?
>>532651486Ian also said Whisper and Tangle were never meant to be a ship but the fans can impact the narrative. They're not going to say he ISN'T gay because that would make the fags riot.
>>532650228>All these ocs >No Tempest>AWF btfo'd
>>532650687"Oh, my! Mr. Tails, what, uh, what is THAT?"
>>532650341Lanolin would probably be on there actually, who would be cut? Cosmo?
>>532645324That's what makes it hot when Sonic has sex with him anyways
>>532651486Honestly, that tracks. I mostly see him as flamboyant and metrosexual, but not necessarily gay, some audiences like to rush to inject gayness in any male that's not stereotypical.
>>532651649right in the chaos emeralds
>>532651947But Tails is 8.
>>532651623Everyone but the owl and green possum but they're Evan and ABT OCs that look worse than the actual OCs.
>nintendo said peach doesnโt love Mario, she just sees him as a friend
Lol lmao, Mario is a cuck and the role model for what they want you to be (selfless npc golem who risks everything for women who donโt love him)
At least Sonic gets to go super and does it all for himself while ignoring Amy. Sonic chads fucking won.
>>532651486>>532651667>>532651949Ian said Starline was gay with no pushback. His Eggman fanboyism got to the point it couldn't be read as anything but love.
https://lgbtqia-characters.fandom.com/wiki/Doctor_Starline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GmnEceRvFw&t=683s
>>532647662>He's Nightwing nowthe fuck he is? he'd be lucky to be called Sonic's Robin on a good day half the time he's Sonic's Jimmy olson, the dweeby kid that gets to hang out with the Hero but sits out on almost all the real action.
>>532653231Starline is another example of kill your gays trope, Nite and Don are disney tier background gays and the only gays that are relevant are lesbians because you can depict them as safe besties. bravo idw team youโre so progressive
>>532652308I'm gonna go with the interpretation of Amy reaching out to grab Sonic's hand. Also, this is the same episode where Cosmo gets served a full dose of Tails
Vector the Crocodile is on Epstein's list just so you know
>>532653793CHARMY LOOK OUT
>>532653231Not clicking the gay wiki link, but in the podcast you posted, Ian literally says here that he's intended to be theatrical but that he accidentally comes across as a gay stereotype, which made people headcanon him as gay. He wasn't intended to be gay.
>make gay character
>kill him
Is Ian actually based?
>>532654039Reminds me of the retarded wiki citation a few threads ago where some insufferable emoticon-using spaz ask a Sonic Boom guy a question that he obviously wasn't prepared for and je basically shrugged and said "yeah sure whatever, they're the same characters just written differently."
>>532653231>character is slightly eccentric>"he must be gay">character has a weird cut>"she must be lesbian">character is pink colored>"it's probably trans">shit emojis and colorful shitty flags followI can't enjoy any existing fandom today.
https://xcancel.com/LixesPrototype/status/1948123819513897073
Check this out!
>>532655010Go away Mekk-Knight Avram
>>532652308>>532653521See, I want to interpret it charitably too, but the way their arms and shoulders are positioned in the next closeup suggests that they're not holding hands.
>>532656000When the fertility rate goes above 2.1
>>532656315You heard the man Tangle, whip out that cock and let's get to it!
>>532656454I want to flood the world with kid blobians they're so cute and fluffy!
>>532655516>Sonic sweating bucketsJesus, no girl has made Sonic feel as completely dumbfounded as Amy in a dress did, ever.
>>532654051>>532654275>>532654486>reddit repostSee you in the showers lil nigga....
>>532647151>In all the Classic games Tails disdains Any and leaves her behind because sheโs not mature enough to help unlike him.Bullshit
>>532656000>turn to Amy's profile>it's justifying the word choice of "bestie" for the entire page
>>532656000I wanna fuck Sally so hard
>>532656000The art book was their equivalent to this.
>>532658424Chill out Shadow
>>532656315Look, I'm tapped out, I already pumped out like ten kids and we named em all after Sonic characters, now it's your turn you little goblin, be the change you want to see.
>>532644758 (OP)Why does everyone look so derpy?
>>532659041I just said people should fuck, doesn't mean i am superior enough to do that... even though i would pump out kids non stop if i find a woman.
>>532659174Cause they're drawn by Evan
>>532659119>Marine is Tails' Romeo...>but what happen if Marine is Blaze's Juliet?
>>532659174Evan draws 'em a bit doughy.
I honestly can't help but wonder, how much of Lanolin as a character was planned, and how much was the result of audience reaction?
There's a part of me that feels the part of her that got carried away with the whole leader thing wasn't planned, that they caught on people weren't thrilled with the idea of an inexperienced nobody going full-Willow mode and decided to run with that (considering that's the reason Starline was made genuinly fruity, because Ian noticed there were positive reactions to the idea) to the point the exaggerated depictions ended up becoming canon. Even her weak "apology" and admittance that she has no experience at the thing she immediately volunteers for afterwards feels like it's agreeing with the reader perception of her.
At the same time, I'm left wondering if Lanolin's plot was a good idea in the first place. Considering that Sonic can't really be "wrong" in the first place, her whole "we're doing things the RIGHT way" gimmick never had a chance to go anywhere, but at the same time her turning into Mimic's patsy and becoming an annoying self-righteous cunt wasn't good either. I'm not sure what the point was in the end, or if the intent changed somewhere down the line, I feel the journey of how they got there is potentially more interesting than the character herself.
>>532645349>sonamy is boring>here's the 37th rival/antagonist for sonic to turn into a shitty friend
>>532659840I blame the Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games prequel for setting them down this path.
>>532660285Sonurge is so kino...
>>532660497Why is Sonic fucking Manic
>>532660252> Hat to admit it.> > Hat to admit it.This shit is too good.
>>532660541Don't feed the shitposters.
>>532660541No anon, thatโs Scourge.
every day
every thread
cuck posting and cropped porn
>>532660689Scourge doesn't have a lawn head like that, though.
If you jet teamdarkfags write for Sonic you get stuck with the most obnoxious tumblr style shit you've ever seen.
>>532659965It was 100% written based on audience reaction. Ian and Evan can't write their way out a greasy paper bag.
>>532660815Manic's stage name could very well be "Chronic" the hedgehog. Grassy-ass niglet hog drumming fuckamamo
>>532656763ERM the term is...mobians
>>532657847Did Ian really say that about silver and the fan Japanese trivia
>>532661057Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations.
>>532660967NTA but
>ToesMobians
>BlobsBlobians
Learn the difference
>>532659965Everyone at IDW is a terrible writer, they don't communicate with each other enough to have a cohesive direction their own characters, and all of this is compounded by being part of the discourse. Ian never intended Tangle and Whisper to be a team, Ian never intended Surge and Kit to be redeemed, ABT's Lanolin is totally different than hiw she turned out, Ian killed Mimic without GiGi knowing, etc.
>>532661063Yes. He said this.
Someone post the bestie collage
I see Sonurgefags are still mad that Sonamy is seen as canon in Japan
The bestie thing was the biggest blow to Amyfags since....well ever
>spamming
Who upset Duo this time?
>>532661778Was Gigi the person who made Mimic?
If so then that's kinda rude. I mean IDW is within their right but they coulda told her
>>532661914It's just one of his random meltdowns.
>>532661708The world has moved on from it, /sthg/ is the only place still stuck on it.
>>532661543Here, not sure if this is the most recent one
>>532661914sonurge's irrelevance
>>532661925Mimic was created by Ian and Evan for the Tangle and Whisper miniseries. All the Diamond Cutters were created by Ian which is why they're all Metal Gear expies.
I think it's funny that Shade's core character concept is sex
>>532662065I find that funny because the world was still obsessed with Knuxouge at the time. What would have happened had the Pendering not gotten rid of Shade?
>>532660967>>532661235That's not even the proper use of the term. All "Mobian" ever meant was the Mobius equivalent of the "Earthlings" on Earth. That's it. And since Mobius -is- a future version of Earth, 'overlanders' are just mildly-evolved humans that coexist with the animal-people. Both groups of people are "Mobians."
Blame the Wikia for simplifying this shit.
>>532662178I was thinking the exact same thing anon. Sonic X was still fresh in everyone's minds... then they turn around and give Knuckles a new cum dumpster. Imagine if Chronicles 2 actually came out. Obviously they wouldn't go that far but they would hint at it. I guess Rouge in the games would fully decide Shadow as her love interest then.
There's nothing wrong with liking Sonamy.
>>532661969Probably gonna fix it later, it's made by like three anons with different ideas and the padding gets terrible at the bottom with the Storybook characters.
>>532661969Thinking about fixing this myself. Needs to be organized and concise since thereโs too much clutter towards the bottom.
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>>532662558Sonamyfags are weird because they make Sonic ooc for no fucking reason. At least Sonallyfags HAVE a reason to do this.
>>532662758Why is Tails sweating?
>>532662898No, it's the fact Sonamyfags call other ships ooc while theirs are ooc too.
>>532662898>Sonamyfags are weird because they make Sonic ooc for no fucking reason
Hi May we discuss story ideas that would work for IDW and get approved by SEGA?
>>532663025Where are Amy's black shorts?
>Blazefags shitting up the thread again
>>532663025I think his point is that Sonally has an ooc starting point because Archie Sonic isn't the same character. When Sonallyfags make content they are using a character that actually exists. Archienic. When Sonamyfags make content they just create a new character called Sonic.
>>532663194>Blaze out of nowhere Rent free
Hi would anyone like to try an AI bot that generates IDW solicits?
>>532661252I mean it was pretty much figured out that the Tailstube crew disinvited Ian and started subtly lampooning him and his ideas for the past few episodes, and now that I think about Hesse probably left over "creative differences" (ie. Ian bitching behind the scenes)
>sonamycucks shitting up the thread again
>>532662065"Knuckles will finally be able to repopulate through Shade" is insane for a partner of Sega to say
Do you agree with this video?
https://youtu.be/ijYtzTHtF4Y
>>532662459Rouge in the games HAS fully decided that Shadow is her love interest. Knuckles was hardly ever a serious contender. Even Sa2 drops hints primarily for Shadow and her. Knuxouge is a trash ship built on dead-end Tom and Jerry antics with no development to speak of. It's almost entirely something invented by X and if it weren't for that show nobody would know it exists. It's a ship for dumb secondaries who don't engage with the franchise.
>>532661252>Ian never intended Surge and Kit to be redeemedI can't believe it, we need Ian back to save us from Evan's bullshit.
How many monkey paws must curl
>>532663556Yes, that's the truth. You really summed up the thread, completely right you are
>>532663578Sonic should have ended in 1996
>>532663645I guess the fact that Shade was considered for the main canon is proof that even in the 2000s there weren't major plans for Knuxouge.
>>532663486>high-maintenance>latina-coded>attacks with kicksShadow certainly has a type
>>532663556Then leave, cunt
>>532663645That's true, but the Knuxouge fandom is still surprisingly big, despite having nothing to subsist on for years now.
>>532663796You didn't mention her massive rack
>>532663796>latina-codedi'm not even going to ask
>>532663334It's been confirmed since it's always either shitaze spam or cuck smut, and never at the same time, and Blazefags are known spam shitters who are jealous virgins who want to self insert with melties for personality
>>532663502I can see it.
All of this could be avoided if Sonic Team gives someone an executive creative position for SoA. Movies excluded, of course. It can be anyone but that person really ought to be Ian. Authority like that is important.
Anyone want to see a simulated sthg thread? Tell me gimmick or prompt.
Shadow is sooo hot holy shit. Sex with Shadow every day. Impregnation and hybrid children with Shadow. Marriage to my perfect artificially created husband.
>>532663486>Just immediately squeezes her titties in public >>532663796Sonia is a stereotypical French elite. She even has fantasies of dancing in massive dresses and getting away from the poors.
Dear Amy:
Drop dead or something
PLEASE.
All you ever do is follow
Sonic around like the
stupid bitch you youm
Just get it through your
thick skull: HE DOESN'T
LOVE YOU AND NEVER WILL.
JUST SHUT UP ALREADY.
-Anti-Amy-Rose
>>532663786>no major plans for knuxougeAbsolutely. Hell, the end of SA2 and heroes should have clued people into the fact that there were no major plans for thst ship. She's obsessing over shadow in the final cutscene and fawning over him in heroes. "Created to be knuckles love interest" my ass. Even sega admitted they were an x thing. I wish Shade would come back so that ship can finally take the dirt nap it's been begging for.
>>532664037>Blazefags are known spam shitters who are jealous virgins who want to self insert with melties for personality[citation needed]
>>532664183Amy will outlive the website this was originally posted on
3 inches went in
19 inches came out
>>532664068I missed you AiSthgBro, make a thread of us living through WW3
>>532651401I just want you to know, Sparky, that I appreciate you and I enjoy reading it when you debate people. I missed it when you had internet trouble.
uuuu Tangle it's Britney Bitch
>>532663894The knuxouge "fandom" is almost entirely sonadow, shadamy, and sonamyfags for some reason. There's very few dedicated knuxouge fans. It SHOULD be dead, but thanks to fujo astroturfing it continues to crawl.
Don't believe me? Check Ao3. Over a thousand knuxouge tags. Probably over 80% of them are sonadow.
>>532664068A japanese-looking anon pretending to be Iizuka tells Ian Flynn he immediately needs to add humans to the next issue of IDW or else Sega will revoke the license.
>>532664068A new main title, team based mechanic Sonic game where Blaze is nowhere in sight.
>>532664470>The knuxouge "fandom" is almost entirely sonadow, shadamy, and sonamyfags fwell
of course
it isn't made out of shadouge fags, it would be fucking stupid
>>532664470>The knuxouge "fandom" is almost entirely sonadowThat makes a lot of sense actually. I rarely see knuxouge art get more than 1-2k likes on xitter. Even the most popular will only ever sit around 8k. Big sign that it's fans don't actually care about it.
>>532664287They're also quite good at ignoring the obvious like the problems with their own character, tend to blame everything else for their shortcomings, project they're problems onto others, and will constantly change the goal post and try to gaslight you like a jew when they get caught.
>Sonic fans "WE WANT IAN FLYNN TO WRITE THE GAMES HE'S SO GOOD!"
>Ian Flynn begins to write the games
>Sonic fans "NO NOT LIKE THAT!!!!"
>>532664558Are you retarded? The point is that knuxouge as a fandom barely exists. It isn't popular, it's just exploitable.
Tails and Amy talking about how much they love Sonic with each other!
Tails and Amy inspiring each other and bringing out the best in one another!
Tails and Amy spending time together when the wind isn't around!
Tails and Amy playing with cards together!
Tails and Amy cuddling during a thunderstorm, making Tails scared and Amy helping calm him down!
Tails and Amy!
>>532664904I didn't know who Ian was until a few years ago.
Blaze was completely botched since the start. Rush is a shovelware game that put Amy, Knuckles, Tails and Cream on the npc bench and wrote them all like shit to shill a new deviantart oc as Sonic's equal. Whatever retcons Amy is getting now are to reverse the damage that garbage like Sonic Rush and Sonic X did. The only chemistry Blaze has with Sonic is from what he does with everyone. Causally give life advice to someone who's struggling and then he moves on. He's not gonna stick around to be Blaze's therapist forever. If she needs one, she has Silver. And no, Blaze wasn't in Forces. But Silver was. Because Silver has a more valid reason to show up than Blaze does.
>>532664973Ian was pushed Archiefags that didn't know what they were getting into.
>>532664904After Pontac and Graff, we were desperate for someone who at least knew what Sonic was.
The monkey paw curled hard.
>>532664904I never asked for the fucker. Archiefags astroturfed his popularity in the game fandom after their shit comic died
>>532665219That thing should have carpal tunnel from all the times its curled in this franchise
The majority of Sonic fans like Ian Flynn's writing and you're part of a vocal minority of nostalgic 20-something losers on the internet who can't move on and accept that Sonic is a franchise for kids that you've long since outgrown.
At least SatAM and Archiefags have mostly moved onto other fandoms, their own creative projects, or just flat out make adult content about what they enjoy these days.
You adventurefags hopelessly fawn over this franchise with desperate, futile, hope that it will somehow be what it once was when you were children.
Sonic has changed and it will never be what you appreciated about it.
If this bothers you, go look into franchises that are written like what you like about Sonic (like shonen) or have gameplay similar to what you enjoy in Sonic (like Spark the Electronic Jester 2&3).
Shitposting in this general will only make you insane. It will not bring you enlightenment or elation.
Only a fool would subject themselves to /sthg/.
>>532664191Also Knuckles gets laid
>>532665334>Blaze goes into the vault (2005)
>>532665634We need female Sonic characters with midriff.
>>532665489The majority of sonic fans pirate the comics and skip through the cutscenses
>>532665730Correct, we need more (You)s.
>>532665489>The majority of Sonic fans like Ian Flynn's writingCitation needed
>>532649485>I know the difference between Tails and Cream.Okay Sparky, prove this by explaining the difference in detail without explaining the ways in which they are the same. Explain the differences only
>>532665935HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
Tails and Cream share the traits that people hate about Tails and nothing else
>>532666128People hate that Tails is a kid and can fly?
>>532666192>People hate that Tails is a kidYES
>>532665634>>532665730Tangle was going to have a midriff
The truth that people don't want to accept is that Cream completely ruined Amy's character
Amy was consistent between Sonic CD up until SA2. The moment Cream was introduced is when Amy went from a sweet delicate girl who wants to protect others to an angry weirdo completely obsessed with Sonic for comedic purposes. And it's all Cream's fault since she was created to be Amy's sidekick, and they needed to establish a dynamic with the two. So they gave Amy's previous delicate traits to Cream and made Amy easily irritable and irrational, something that simply wasn't present in pre Sonic Battle games
Now some people will defend Amy in stuff like X, Battle and Rush, by claiming that during this time she was going through a character arc and getting physically stronger. But Amy's abilities during this time period are nothing but a shoehorned attempt at making her capable, since she isn't special when compared to the other animal characters as she wasn't originally designed with gameplay in mind. Giving her a hammer was a good idea, as it could serve as a way to make Amy compensate for her shortcomings and make her more unique compared to the other characters that have natural abilities. But you can't simply make her considerably stronger than most other characters and explain it away through some "training hard" bullshit. And making Amy strong ultimately contributed to her negative perception of being an angry spaz, as by that point Amy's delicate nature was pretty much gone and given to Cream
Even after Cream was considered a flop and shelved up until recently, Amy was still portrayed as easily irritable in Sonic Riders and subsequent entries. It's no wonder why people hated Amy back in the 2000s. Sure, American fans were already iffy on the character since SA1 as some felt she was "replacing" Sally, but the hatred towards her really only started to pick around 2004 onwards. And it makes sense because 2000s Amy basically was an in universe lolcow
Anti windfags making Sonic Content:
>What if Sonic and Shadow got drunk at a bar and talked about their emotional journeys and moving forward with their lives
Windfags making Sonic Content
>Sonic and Shadow must team up with teeth clenched in order to defeat mecha Jesus
Have a good day, /sthg/!!
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>>532664904more like
>the comics are shitty licensed-satam fanfiction gamers didn't actually care about>clout-chasing penders protege who asks fans to worship him rises to prominence, he can remix existing material like any semicompetent fanfic writer>games continue ignoring the comics until chronicles happened>if you thought sonic 2006 or lyric rises was the shit, you're wrong: Chronicles Was The Shit>penders lawsuit makes sega realize they can't continue with their hands-off approach with archie anymore>penders protege ian curries favor with sega and turns on penders>this works out for him, he's in charge of the reboot>archiesonic dies, the creatives flock to the idw coalmines, thwy take this chance to get more involved with soa>ian the peanut-performing freelancing circus elephant works for peanuts because he gets kicks out of seeing his shit writing make an impaxt, gets to work as (((localizer))) which really means some writer who took the spot traditionally taken by translators>people slowly realize how uncreative he actually is>despite his continuous fuckups eroding the goodwill of his fans and coworkers soa keeps hiring him because no one else is doing this at his low payrate
>>532666413She really does fit with Rough and Tumble.
uuu.... uuu.... uuu.... uuu...
>>532666413>We could have had delinquent gang Tangle>Instead get annoying lesbian TangleI'm going to fucking murder Ian
>>532666501Rough and Tumble tasting apple
>>532666457>Anti windfags making Sonic Content:>What if we had fun>Windfags making Sonic Content>What if we are miserable retards
Geez amy how come DC letโs you have 2 crossover figures, thereโs also the 3 notAmys from prime, but thereโs no normal amy with good articulation
>>532644758 (OP)international sexism day
>>532666726Fun is when lesbians, slice of life, and therapy speak
>>532665941Tails is a victim of bullying who latches onto Sonic because he desperately wishes he could be "cool" too. Being bullied so much caused him to have a low self-esteem so he fails to recognize his own self-worth, what he can actually do, especially since he's always measuring himself against SONIC THE HEDGEHOG. Even when Sonic has long-since saw Tails as cool and helpful and stuff, Tails didn't see it himself. He spends all of SA1 racing against Sonic in an effort to keep up, even when he's already winning some of those races. It's not until he has to face Eggman all on his own that he actually consciously realizes he can't keep running behind Sonic, he's gotta run with his own strength and believe in himself. And once he's done it, and everyone's cheering HIS name as their hero, that serves as a major turning point for Tails. In direct contrast to where he began.
Cream is exceptionally polite and well-behaved due to the strict discipline of her mother. She's like a highly academic bookworm kind of girl who gets straight A's in everything and follows all the rules because that's how she was raised. Always referring to everyone by their proper title, always doing what she's told, always being kind and respectful, etc. And also, very pacifistic with a strong aversion to violence. She doesn't like fighting, she doesn't enjoy "hurting people". Because that's how she was raised, and she's just that kind and caring of a person. The way I see it, this makes it all the more important that she's close friends with Amy, of all people. Because Amy is nothing but blind passion, enthusiasm, impulsive, allergic to "boredom". Amy lives for the thrill, she won't hesitate to throw hands and fight for what she loves. Because that's how strong her love is. And it's that same lesson that Cream had to learn in Sonic Battle when she was with Emerl. Even if she doesn't like fighting, Cream learned to fight for what she loves, to defend those she cares about.
>>532666612>A-AHHH! I-I'M SORRY TANGLE! BUT MIMIC IS JUST....SOOOO GOOOOOOOOOD!!!!
>>532666726>Sonic and Shadow can't be fun if they act like Sonic and a Shadow instead of muh buddy cops
I'm used to the way Sparky thinks so none of this is shocking to me. I think he knows Tails and Cream aren't literally the same characters, he is just completely unable to think without his archetypes for some reason
Anyways it would be cool if they used Cream more. Her stories aren't as good as Tails' and she doesn't have relationships that are well developed and explored like Sonic and Tails. Tails is one of the most interesting characters in the series in all aspects, Cream really does not have as much going on
>>532664532https://poe.com/s/uI3jQFMXUt3MBY3twLrW
>>532666501Hopefully boycomissionanon is doing ok
>>532664375This is an experiment with a new bot.
https://poe.com/s/xxgsYfB3deSAYwGRvZkl
>>532667067It's hard to compete with Tails because he has a lot going on as a character
I also have a bot that can generate IDW solicits.
>>532664068>Ian gets fired>IDW gets cancelled >DC buys Sonic comic license >All above in matter of one day
>>532667494Really?
>Tails reliving his Cocoa island days in his nightmares
It would be funny if IDW characters did appear in the manga but were made just as OOC as the canon characters are in idw.
Suegefags could finally have their blushing tsundere.
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>>532666448>The truth that people don't want to accept is that Cream completely ruined Amy's characterFalse.
Amy and Cream are a perfect contrast between each other. Amy is intensely loud and passionate, Cream is delicately polite and gentle. The problem lies in what you think "Passion" means.
Amy is defined by the strength of her heart. Her "LOVE" burns hotter than a thousand suns, and she wears that on her sleeve without shame. She is as free-spirited and impulsive as Sonic, but without his "cool and aloof attitude". She is extremely enthusiastic and overexuberant with her emotions, which are primarily her overwhelming JOY. Amy is a very optimistic and upbeat individual, she is a "cheerleader" at her core who raises everyone's spirits just by her mere presence alone. And that overwhelming presence is quintessential to her dynamic with Sonic, as that passion contrasts and challenges his coolness.
Cream contrasts Amy by having that same "coolness" as Sonic. Meaning, Cream is cool-headed where Amy is hotheaded. Soft-spoken, delicate, polite, gentle where Amy is loud and brash. But both are as sweet as ice cream, cake and candy. Just different flavors. Cream is always on her best behavior while Amy is driven purely by the whims of her heart.
The problem is when the writers mistake Amy's passion for anger and aggression, and Cream's flavor of sweetness as the ONLY flavor of sweetness that can exist. Heavily biased towards Cream's politeness so Amy is made to look like a psycho smasher. THIS is NOT Cream's fault, it is PURELY the writers getting BOTH of them wrong.
The way I see it, emphasis needs to be placed on Cream's "strict discipline" and Amy's passionate LOVE AND JOY. This is the heart of the Amy-and-Cream dynamic in "Team Rose". Cream as the "mediator" while Amy is head-over-heels in love with being in love. If anything, I'd suggest making Cream even "cooler" or "colder" to make her feel more like "Ice Cream" to add even more contrast to Amy.
>>532668213>whisper but she's actually allowed to blow shit upfund it
>>532668421The Link doesn't seem to work
>>532667763(W) Ian Flynn (A) Jack Lawrence (CA) Nathalie Fourdraine
"Cocoa Nightmares"! Tails's past has come back to haunt him! The young hero is plagued by nightmares, forcing him to relive his terrifying solo adventure on Cocoa Island. The traumatic memories are beginning to affect his confidence, and Sonic is growing worried for his best friend. How can you help someone fight a battle that's all in their head? Sonic will have to find a way, as a new threat requires his inventive partner to be at his sharpest
>>532666413Tangle could be an interesting anti-hero... instead we got gay nigger shit.
>>532668996This comic is so soft that being an anti-hero wouldn't amount to much. Rough and Tumble are full villains and they practically pal around with the heroes.
>>532663570>unf unf unf. get pregant.>"but knuckle-poo, I've already laid over 9,000 eggs.">not enough. must do more. do more, until can't no more. unf unf unf. get pregnant.
>Cream contrasts Amy by having that same "coolness" as Sonic.
I also wanna add that this is a contrast between Tails and Cream, inversely to Sonic and Amy.
Sonic & Cream: Cool
Amy & Tails: Warm
Sonic is cool-headed while Tails is warm. He's bright yellow-orange, and an energetic, excitable kid who thinks Sonic is the greatest thing ever. But he's timid and shy where Sonic has endless charisma and confidence. Tails is a bit reserved, cautious and analytical where Sonic will rush in without a second thought because he's gotta go fast to get the job done NOW. But behind Tails' timidity is a very strong warmth, as he is very kindhearted and pure, gentle, etc but that kindness and compassion he displays comes with a very genuine warmth to it.
With Cream, although the underlying kindness and compassion is identical in itself, her behavior is very strictly rehearsed and following the rules she was taught. The way that she speaks, the way that she carries herself, is less about self-expression and more about doing what she was trained to do as "the right way to behave". So her usual demeanor should appear much more cool-headed by comparison to someone like Tails or Amy whose displays of emotion or empathy are much more... I don't know what the right word is... spontaneous?
What I mean is, Tails is someone who spends so much time in his workshop that he probably doesn't take care of himself or go out that much, so when he has to interact with people, he's likely to be a bit emotionally overwhelmed but very sensitive towards wanting to be as nice to everyone as possible in a somewhat haphazardly awkward way. Cream, on the other hand, knows exactly what to say and how to say it when communicating with someone in a respectful manner.
No one else wants to try the IDW solicit maker?
>>532627168Had a few things come up so I'm not sure if you're still around but maybe you'll see it later.
>I think I see what's happening here. You and I are using different metrics for what is and isn't canon. We'll never agree this way, then.This is true I suppose. I can not see material as canon unless it's in the main continuity games because it represents how Sega and Sonic Team want the characters to be seen by everyone. This is the default interpretation meant for fans, general audiences and children to consume. If you have to go out of your way to find information about characters not provided by the games, I can not in good faith call it canon material. Especially if it is something the staffs says, but did not implement into the final product. It may be their vision, it may be their intent, but I have to question why that intent did not make it into the final product and in some cases, the final product contradicts what they say. We've seen this plenty of times with half hazard Band-Aid explanations from Iizuka to remedy continuity errors. It just doesn't matter if the games don't reflect what he says.
>Do you really trust something written by a fanfiction.net writer who climbed his way up the ranks through Archie over a statement directly from Iizuka, Toyoda, Hoshino, Sonic Channel, etc.?I do not trust it until it makes it into the final product because it means it was ran through all of those people and still approved for widespread consumption. If it is inconsistent, that is an entirely different conversation to debate.
>Shadow has been complimented on his appearance before by Rouge and '06 NPCs. The difference is obviously because Maria means more to him. He does not really care for people's opinions of him...until it's someone that actually matters. For you, you may take it as romantic, but I still say it's normal to have such a reaction in front of people you care the opinions of including family.
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>>532669359IDW solicits are stupid enough on their own. We don't need fake ones to confuse us.
>>532669260I guess so, what's the point of being an anti-hero mercenary if there is no villain to work for, except eggman that only cares about automation.
>>532668495I miss how much Whisper used to use the rocket and spike wisp in earlier issues. I fucking hate that the sniper character has become associated with the hammer weapon. No i dont fucking care about the half-assed symbolism with Mimic, she's a fucking sniper that likes blowing shit up, why is she getting upclose?
>>532666998Point proven, good job
>>532667374Very true
Did anybody archive the Steve Aoki concert? It was a funny shitshow but they deleted it from the official channel
>>532669735Do you have a link? It might be available on archive.org
>>532669892>english dialoguedamn Ian is a hack
>>532669840Just like me fr fr
"Why do Silverfags hate Evan?"
>>532669834>Do you have a link?Sadly, no.
>>532669930I wish SEGA at least had an option for a closer translation when you choose Japanese voiceovers. Dubtitles suck. Even the OVA had a better translation as the subtitle track.
>>532669623These are the things Sonic considers threats?
>>532669892I haven't keeping up with frontiers much, but Sonic's friends talking to each other?
Is this from that DLC3 thing?
>>532669623OH, NO! IT'S...!
two bad guys and two good guys?
>>532670123Actually impressive she managed to slip her head canon into the comic and no one called her out on it. What kind of sloppy shop are IDW running over there
Anon not everything in life is about panis size.
>>532670220DLC thing, yeah. They barely make some chitchat while they fetch Sonikku-Sama his emeralds like the butlers they are
>>532667580https://poe.com/s/LemoKaSIVBqYvQtzCLq6
>>532669735>>532670193Found it https://m.twitch.tv/videos/1220326531
You should download it to your own computer if you want to be 100% sure it's not lost
>>532670123>That descriptionHoly shit, has Evan even SEEN a game with him in it?
>>532670220Knuckles, Tails, and Amy basically only ever talk about the subject at hand and whenever they have to speak directly to each other about anything it's the most awkward shit you've ever heard
>>532669930That line specifically was not written by Ian.
>>532670367What's more impressive is that people actually managed to read IDW and think that it's just an "adaptation" or a "slight deviation" and not completely and utterly off
>>532670847eh? But he wrote for the english DLC did he not. Did a little mini Ian write it for him?
>>532670585Holy shit, thanks bro!
>>532670367Not that impressive when you remember that Sega doesn't give a fuck about Silver and Silver's fanbase is overwhelmingly female so they were ok with how he was
>>532670676She has and that's why her version of him is supported in shipping circles. Shippers see what they want to see and they saw a cute confused boy led around by his girlfriend
>Write fanfic about Silver being a little bitch
>Get hired onto Archie for making impressive art
>Keep working all the way until you're hired to write for IDW
>Make bitch-Silver canon
Honestly Evan is pretty based for living out every fan's dream of making their headcanon real
>>532670220Yes, The Final Horizon has Sage simulate that the plan in the base game isn't optimal (for some reason) and so she convinces Eggman and Sonic to agree to an alternate, harder plan that involves having Sonic's friends take over. I guess she's right since fighting the final boss while it's off-guard leads to a slightly happier ending I guess, but honestly not much ultimately changes. I prefer the main-game final battle, not-Hyper Sonic can kiss my ass.
>>532670196I agree with you, but in the case of Frontiers the situation is worse than you realize. Sonic Team needs to stop trying to work with western writers on the games
>>532670953Ian only wrote the main cutscenes in the DLC, the character to character side interactions were written by someone at Sonic Team (no one knows who) and as far as I can tell they were simply translated to English without trying to make significant changes
>>532671137kek at the shitty friends posing here like they contributed anything
all they get to do is fetch Sonikku Sama's emeralds while all the Ancient Bosses are going "sugoi Sonikku Sama you are the most powerfulest, smartest, spiritual being evar!!!" while he soloes them
>>532670676You have to remember that Evan came up with that characterization because of 06
>But SILVER is trying to MURDER in 06This does not matter to uwuverfags because realistically anyone would kill to save the planet from lava satan. Even a cute cinnamon roll. Pointing this out never changes their mind
>But it was the dub voiceUnless you're hardcore into anime this talking point goes in one ear and out of the other. Every single time.
>But he has official character descriptions that don't say anything about him acting like thisThe problem is that they don't specifically say "Silver isn't a little tumblroid bitch" meaning if you are already neck-deep in deviantart headcanons there's no turning back.
>>532671112>Evan lives out her dream of making her headcanon version of Silver real>ABT lives out his dream of giving every female character fat titsIt's honestly beautiful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iubz5wBk2LA
>>532670585nta but what's a good preferably FOSS way to download youtube and twitch videos for future reference? I want to make sure some things stay preserved.
if Drumpf is so good why did he cancel Colbert and not Sonic?
I hate Silver so I think it's funny to imagine Silverfags watching their favorite character slowly get forcibly transformed into Iizuku Midoriya by a shipping fangirl
>>532671837I use the command line tool yt-dlp. It's very quick and easy to use.
>>532671837youtube-dlp, i don't know if it works on twitch stuff though
>>532671084>>532671112Archie played a part in this because that series also ignored his character in the games and presented him as nervous and incompetent. Archie Silver was a bitch too but no one wants to talk about that.
>>532671935Deku is "Tails". And both are my favorite characters, so I hate that this characterization is projected onto SILVER instead, and that this type of character is seen as such a negative by everyone else.
>>532671754he was right about us
>>532672083Boy you must hate the Sonic movies
>>532671558Evan's silver is a lesson in how fanon popular interpretations can absolutely ruin a character. This is exactly why I've been warning people about sonadow. All it takes is for one person who is legitimately convinced of those headcanons to get into the right position at Sega and they could absolutely ruin the franchise. It's like how sonic X convinced everyone knuckles was an idiot by letting characters like rouge always pull the wool over his eyes and embarrass him. Hell, you could even say knuxouge is responsible for the destruction of his character. Shipping is not harmless.
>>532672183I don't hate them... I've enjoyed all three movies.
BUT I HATE THAT MOVIE SONIC IS WRITTEN THE WAY THAT HE IS. I HATE IT SO MUCH.
>>532672005It does, I'm surprised by how many sites it supports. https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/blob/master/supportedsites.md
>>532672258This. Movienic is not Sonic.
>>532672083Obviously Sonic is Deku and Amy is Ochaco because a hand shake is the closest either pair will ever get to romance lmao
>>532672213This makes me wonder what Sally Acorn would become if her fans had the time to grow up and start writing her based entirely on fanon interpretations of her
>>532672213Ok but Shadria is also a cancerous headcanon.
>>532672326Speaking of shipping not being harmless and giving people the wrong impressions about characters....
>>532671958>>532672005Thanks! I could kiss you for that...
>>532672385Somehow, she becomes even more of a slut
>>532669432>>532627168>Would I be right to assume you're an only child?No you would not and it's partially why I'm a believer that everything presented as is even the body language and touchiness of Shadow and Maria can be taken as completely platonic/sibling-esc. You may have been raised alongside a sibling, but do you know what it's like being raised alongside a disabled sibling, have to learn to care for said sibling, because they are on the brink of death? Making sure they know they are loved for and cared for because it may be all they get in life? To be their everything because they may never get a chance to know everything? It may sound romantic out of context, but I assure you these strong feelings, a bond that deep can in fact be purely familial and platonic. I'm not sure you understand the weight that comes with that, having to care for and show love to such an ill-bound family member because in this life, you really are all they have. My brother was severely compromised at the age of 5 due to an allergic reaction to a medication doctors gave him causing chemical imbalance and deficiency in him. He was able to talk at the time, but when we came back from the hospital with our dad, he was a basically a vegetable. All of his motor functions basically shut down, he had to be forcefed and kept on a breathing tube while having endless diarrhea because he could not hold his bowel movement anymore. So many doctors told our father to give up on him, that he wasn't going to make it. I can only be thankful that our dad wasn't a deadbeat to give up on him because my brother did slowly improve over the course of the last 25 years through extensive treatments and therapy. He can not speak anymore, I am his voice to help him communicate, we have no mom, I am the only person besides dad in his life he can trust.
Shadow cares deeply about his role in aiding Maria and berates himself for not being enough and I can understand that because I've been there.
There's Sonic, and then there's Tails.
Sonic is the cool giga-chad hype moment the aura farmer.
Tails is soft and fluffy and timid and kind and gentle, and "relatable" and is all about growth and struggling and stuff.
If you want "Deku", that's TAILS. If you want "All Might", that's SONIC.
Stop turning SONIC into TAILS. They are separate characters with separate core appeals.
>>532672367Deku and Ochaco is what Tails and Amy as a ship looks like.
>>532672476we are innocent. shut up.
>>532672213>Shipping is not harmless.No seriously. Imagine, 10 years from now, Surgefags grow up and start writing their headcanons into the character long after Ian and Evan have retired from the series.
Absolute devastation.
>>532672573No you're really not. You want shadow to act like sonic, and rouge already fills a role you're desperate for amy to fill.
>>532672476It can also be a creative challenge, like, what is a scenario where Sonic and Shadow hook up with each other in a way that is in character for both of them?
>>532671402>The problem is that they don't specifically say "Silver isn't a little tumblroid bitch" meaning if you are already neck-deep in deviantart headcanons there's no turning back.This. His official descriptions barely say anything about him and that combined with the 06 reset made him a hotbed of headcanon.
>>532672693>You want shadow to act like sonicNo we don't. his appeal is that he is not Sonic. it's usually on par with what Archie Shadow does. but he never becomes Sonic.
>Rougenvm go on with your day
>>532672943>his appeal is that he is not Sonic.Define "Sonic".
>>532672515And although my brother survived, I still mourn the life he could've had. We could've had, had he not gotten those meds and got to grow up as a normal kid. To not have to go through all the assholes who wanted to use and abuse him and take advantage of him because he could not take care of himself or speak. All the IEP meetings and evil I've seen because of how people treat real disabled individuals. What would he have been doing right now in adulthood things did not turn out the way they did? I love the brother I have dearly, but I miss the brother he could've been.
>>532672545So Ochaco is All Might's love interest?
>>532672740She got that ass though
Shadamyfags have a bad habit of thinking Sonic is an ADHD yuppie
>>532672213>Evan's silver is a lesson in how fanon popular interpretations can absolutely ruin a characterIan was already doing that long before with Archiedow. This is just another case of Sega of Japan needing to do their fucking job for their IP.
>>532672693>and rouge already fills a role you're desperate for amy to fill.Rouge definitely has a hole I'm desperate to fill if you know what I mean
>>532673059No, I'm saying that Ochaco on her own is Amy, but paired with Tails instead. Or like, with Nicky in the manga.
Your MC can be Sonic or Tails, but the Girlfriend is likely gonna be Amy if it's not some tsundere thing.
>>532672740>Every OC Evan has made is canonically fat
>>532672742Imagine your friend starts writing songs about fucking your wife and making you watch. When you confront him, he laughs and just says it's a "creative challenge" and just for fun.
His band is popular and he keeps writing these songs. How would you feel in that situation? This is basically where we're at with sonadow.
>>532673149hey now, sonamyfags do it, too. i see a lot of cheecky sonamy stuff
MLP PROMOTES SONAMY AND SHADOW IS THEIR KID!!!
>>532673027Shadamyfags don't know that being chill, stoic, and aloof are character traits Sonic had a decade before Shadow existed
>>532672545You also shouldn't turn Tails into Sonic. Tails wants to be like Sonic, but that doesn't mean altering the character at his core, it means Tails' struggle to reach his ambition should always be represented. Because unlike Sonic, it doesn't come natural to him.
>>532673327HAHAHAHA
>"uh, t-they d-do it to-too!"So maybe don't I guess?
>>532672740Blobian physiology comes standard with a healthy layer of lard on top
Amy is "Girl Sonic". But sometimes, this "Minnie Mouse" love interest type is more often paired with protagonists like Tails, because you have this self-insert underdog kind of guy who gets with this heavily idealized dream girl whose super nice and loving and whatever. Amy is essentially a manic pixie dream girl to anybody else, but Sonic is a manic pixie dream GUY that doesn't care for the romance thing. If Tails and Amy were the ship, it would be more like a traditional romance of him pining after her while she actually feels the same but neither are aware of each other's feelings or whatever. Or it's just like the manga where Amy was just Nicky's girlfriend by default because obviously she wears the pants in the relationship and would've been to initiate it anyway.
Shadamy is a product of IDW, Prime, and the movies making people forget Sonic's actual personality
>>532673158>Ian was already doing that long before with Archiedow.Oh God, he was the one behind Archie Shadow?
No wonder that conniving snake hates the mandates! He doesn't understand SHIT!
For FUCK'S SAKE, Archiefags! You bet on the wrong hors, and we all have to suffer because you couldn't let your irrelevant toilet-paper graphic-novels stay irrelevant!
GOD!
>>532673297Sorry I can't relate to have a wife. But I will make a case for Sonadow:
Crisis forces cooperation. Sonic needs Shadow's chaos powers, Shadow needs Sonic's adaptability. Working together under pressure, they discover their core values align - both are ultimately about protecting others.
The romance emerges from professional respect evolving into personal recognition. Sonic realizes Shadow's intensity comes from profound loyalty. Shadow sees Sonic's recklessness is actually sophisticated trust in the world.
They hook up because they finally understand each other's strategies for the same fundamental goal: keeping the people they care about safe.
>>532673657>Shadamy>product of Primewhaaaat
Shadamy, like sonadow, is also responsible for damaging fan interpretations of the characters.
the earliest shadamy fanfic is as old as SA2 and shadamy was very popular around late 2000s to mid 2010s
>>532673868Just like Shadria
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The core appeal of Shadow is that he is Sonic. So obviously so that he makes Sonic look nothing like Sonic.
>>532673134I never understood the appeal of sonilver. Its ooc and extremely bland
ORANGE FOX BAD
TINY PENIS
NOW LAUGH
mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
>Sonic is so uninterested in frivolous romance that Amy should pick a new boyfriend to cope
>SHADOW
this was always funny to me
>>532674060>I never understood the appeal of sonilverIt's cute
>>532674064He Crossed The Desert For Us....
>>532673907You know what was more popular? Shadouge. At that time is was probably the most popular ship in the fandom.
>>532674195The characters themselves are cute but the ship is bland. There's nothing there. It'd be more interesting if there was a brotherly dynamic instead
>>532674182Amy is fat lol
SOJ should sue their critics
Why is Movienic written like that?
Why is Primenic written like that?
Why is IDWnic written like that?
<------Why is writing Gamenic so difficult for most Western writers?
>>532656000Fleetway needed one before it kicked the bucket.
>>532674597I'll admit it's mostly my fetish for hot hedgehog men and wanting to see them have sex with each other
>>532674754Gamenic doesn't make money
>>532673657I thought people just liked that one scene in SA2
>>532674754They don't want Sonic. They want Tails.
>>532674754>Movie SonicPat Casey actually had the option to write in-character Sonic, but if he did, then Sonic wouldnt be allowed to be the protagonist. He was told that if Sonic is mature, then there needs to be a kid character to be the actual protagonist. Casey hated the idea of Sonic not being the protagonist so he made Sonic a child.
Either Sonic is a kid or Sonic mentors a kid. Those are the rules
www.everand.com/podcast/594395948/16-Writing-the-Sonic-Movies-w-PAT-CASEY
>PrimePrime Sonic is based on Movie Sonic
>IDWIDW Sonic is the product of a 20 year Archiefag trying to force himself to write windnic
>>532674964Tails doesn't make random jokes all the time either, Tails is a serious boy
>>532665219The monkey paw was we got someone who only knew what (Archie) Sonic was.
>>532675072At the very least, they want Sonic to be in Tails' position as a little kid brother archetype.
>>532674997Is this the same reason we have Chris in Sonic X?
>>532674856At least you're honest about it
>>532674124This is exactly why the better option was just to strip romance since she fundamentally can't move on from Sonic, and Sonic can't fundamentally be with her.
>>532675395What else do you do when you want the premise, the set-up, but you don't want to follow it through to the end?
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EVERYTHING is better when you honor character
>Comedy
"Amy tries to rape Sonic" is funnier than "Shadow loves Latinas" because the former is based on a character trait Amy actually has
>Porn
It's hotter if you can actually come up with an explanation for these characters to fuck. "Surge's mind glitched and is now adding - where there should be +" is a better reason for her to fuck Sonic than her becoming a tsundere for no reason.
>Fanfiction
Needs no explanation.
>>532671341>boo hoo my favorite blorbo doesn't get to transform and solo the final boss instead of sonic because he's the best at using the emeralds Grow up
So, since when does Shadow casually hang with Team Sonic now? I guess just for branding.
>>532675395Whereโs her boyfriend Nack?
>Windfags are the only people who can be reliably trusted to keep everyone in-character or at least have some obscure justification for OOC befhavior
But
>They are so biased towards Sonic that it can become insufferable watching the story bend over backwards to suck his dick
But-
>Non windfags have an extremely obnoxious habit of running with "Tumblr" characterizations because it makes them squee
Fuck, so good Sonic content is impossible then.
since we're posting gay mobians
>>532672515>>532673057>>532627168I'm getting a little emotional now, so let me come back to being a little more objective for a second. Maria's illness is not as drastic as what my brother went through, but it still leaves her in a position she can not enjoy life through normal means. Shadow is her hope for survival and Shadow recognizes how important he is to her. And in turn she has always been there for him in his moments of doubt since his inception. He cares so deeply for her and he is bound by that love he shares for her. That love can be interpreted as romantic like you want since they are not biologically related, but the strength of these feelings do not have to be fueled by romance and be seen as familial in the context the games present when you understand the heavy weight of the circumstances. To be left with the void of what once was and what could've been is not easy. It's not so simple to just describe it as a young love between two opposite sexes, there's so much more at play here that I don't think it's right to assert the romantic lens so heavily just because you can not imagine siblings being that close. There are outliers, especially for a situation as unique as Shadow and Maria.
I think I need to take a break before addressing the pastebin. I knew I said I would, but writing my last posts took a bit out of me. I love my brother and I want him to know he is loved and appreciated in any way I can muster.
Pic related's scene means so much to me in a way I'm not sure you'll be able to understand. And I don't mean that as an insult, it's just a really dire and rare circumstance. I can not be upset at people who ship them, but I will admit I am miffed at the assertion that the canon angle of their love being siblings/familial/platonic is seen as unrealistic because of how they interact. I think people are within their right to see them as only siblings and take it literally, even if its not for the same reasons I'm able to believe it.
>>532675892I never noticed that he has a mouth in this image before
>>532676009>Non autists and non Sonic fans won't do any of the aboveBut they will write hellokitty for little boys
>>532676023impregnating silver
>>532676009>>Windfags are the only people who can be reliably trusted to keep everyone in-character or at least have some obscure justification for OOC befhavior >But>>They are so biased towards Sonic that it can become insufferable watching the story bend over backwards to suck his dickThat's why it's better to admire the wind while self-inserting as Tails and having a strong appreciation for Amy and a part of you that really wants Knuckles to show up and punch Sonic in the face sometimes, and-
>>532671754Fuck off normie, you clearly knew that redesign was horrible
>>532676023I'd fuck Silver's ass like there's no tomorrow
>>532676327What do you call a windfag who cares about the side characters
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>>532675892That looks like Classic Sonic with green eyes
>>532676584An EVERYONE fan.
>>532676023Off-model trash
>>532676023Off-model garbage for faggots.
>>532669647WHISPER USED TO BE COOL AND I'M MAD
>>532674964They want hellokitty for boys
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>>532674754>Why is writing Gamenic so difficult for most Western writers?The idea of Sonic being this free spirited rebel who doesn't quite care about wrong or right, it doesn't fly.
Just look at how the west interpreted Goku as a Japanese Superman. VS Toriyama's vision that he is not altruistic, but just happens to do the right thing (usually...)
>>532662898Again Sonally can't go a single existence without bringing up Amy.
Truly she won and took the heroine spot and Sally got vaulted. This mindbroke her fans to this day and it went from Archie having contempt for Amy to Amy replacing their princess and moves forward from the canned comic, but at least you guys can reminisce the relationship of the past and of course the borderline times Sonic was a cuckold and a crying bitch in a cover.
We gayposting?
https://files.catbox.moe/9j65ov.jpeg
>>532676992They want Flash and Spiderman's love child for babbies
>>532676893That too.
What they really want, though, is "Kid Sonic". Which is what I use to refer to Tails, but they want it LITERALLY.
A young, immature version of Sonic.
Why can't japs make good games?
>>532661957It's been stagnant for five months now. It's honestly sad what a couple of personalities can do to this place.
>>532677141>We gayposting?always
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So are Archie characters getting in or not?
>>532677497It's not a no.
You can't be Sonic fan and be non white
>>532676584Everythingfags are a good alternative but their point of reference can be some random Sega shit you've never heard of instead of Sonic X.
>>532677342Nintendo has been sniping Sonic Team's best devs for over a decade. The Olympic Games were a curse on this franchise.
>>532677497We'll have to wait till August (release date). Personally I have no reason to care for that game except for the fact that it brings back old characters
Sonknux, Sonaze, Sonikal, Sonilver and Sonangle are comfy ships
>>532677884This but also shadouge. Peak aesthetics.
why does he have yellow/golden eyes
he doesnt have them when not wearing his hat
>>532676327I agree completely. That's why the manga needs them.
>>532677141>Grab tail>Hump from behind My favorite sex trope
>>532677762Most of the main devs that worked at Sonic team that left via Olympics werenโt major devs
The director of DK Banaza worked at Sega and during his time there he directed nothing but ports.
The lead map and world designer for Zelda was the cutscene environment engineer for Sonic up until Unleashed.
Basically Nintendo took the people Sega thought had no talent and they made games that Sega is now chasing.
>>532678106It's his eye color it just doesn't show on his dot eyes.
It's easy for you all to criticize me when you don't have to juggle multiple projects on a tight deadline under a mandate from a company that will have no issue sacking you if you mess up once.
But no, please, continue on to making fun of me and my successful comics and video game stories. Everyone else loves them, but of course the jaded adults of this MAGA loving website can't help but pick apart every single aspect of what makes us human.
Stop hanging onto the edge of tomorrow and realize how you can do better.
>>532675610I think you need a lesson in basic biology, Amy.
>I fucked-No, you didn't.
You have a pussy, right?
That means you GOT FUCKED.
Men? THEY fuck; YOU get fucked!
There is only the fucker and the fuckee.
>>532678106it's eye shine, it's the color of his retina not his pupils
>>532678280Finally someone with a brain for once
>>532678307Fix it then, anon.
>>532677884Nobody cares.
>>532678280Fuck You ~from the wiki who didn't kiss your ass
>>532651823Tempest isn't even his oc
The only oc he could make was anon which was a recolor of the usual anon. This was "satire."
Sonic needs to be the "Wind", but Tails needs to be the kid who aspires to be like the "Wind", Amy the pure-hearted girl in love with the "Wind", Knuckles as the "Mountain" who stands against the "Wind", and so on.
To portray Sonic as the Wind but everyone else as just side fodder is to disrespect the true meaning of the Wind.
>>532678487Why is the Conductor dressed like Shippuden Naruto?
>>532678280Ian Flynn, what are you doin' here? You know you and me don't get along.
>>532678487Conductor's wife is so cute I wish she had a name
>>532678280>Stop hanging onto the edge of tomorrowOVER DA RINE
>>532678589>Amy the pure-hearted girl in love with the "WindI've learned to accept the platonic approach and it's less cruel.
>>532678725shes named Flora
>>532678487GOD HES SO LUCKY
Who should lick Tails ass?
QQLettuce doesn't understand Sonic
>I made these especially for you for still standing by me!
>>532678190Lol Nintendo has done nothing but made slope lately good riddance
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>>532679080That itself sounds cruel, claiming that Amy should just give up or move on. That's never gonna happen. And it shouldn't.
Amy LOVES Sonic and she is romantic by her very nature. That is her "wind", so to speak. And her being this, while Sonic is that, is what keeps the two locked in an endless chase around and around. And whose to say this itself isn't actually what they enjoy most of all?
Shoot AOSTH fags
Burn SATAM fags
Skin Archie fags
Throw acid at Fleetway fags
Stomp Underground fags heads
Drown Boom fags
Eviscerate Prime fags
Cut in half vertically (starting at the crotch) IDW fags
Impale anally Movie fags and letting them rot
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Sex with conductors wife.... uuu... sinful.... adultery... burning in hell...
>>532678280>Stop hanging onto the edge of tomorrowYeah, this is Ian.
>>532674754Because "Gamenic" doesn't exist as the character contradicts himself multiple times in the games.
>beating Sonic
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>>532680331 superman had actually worse fight scenes than sonic 3, but sonic 3 had like 3 minutes of actual fighting when superman had 20 of them or more
"windnic isn't real"
>New manga portrays Sonic identical to how jpnfans describe
Another worthless cope dead.
>>532680632Already forgotten
>>532679951People who want Amy to "move on" either want to ship her with Shadow or ship Sonic with Blaze or Sally without any interference.
If Sonic was written like Ys, we wouldn't have these problems.
>>532680852This is always the case. It's never really about Shadow or Amy. They just want to see the character designs fuck.
>>532679951>claiming that Amy should just give up or move on. That's never gonna happen.I agree, which is why I didn't say that. She's not giving up or moving on at all, she's just non-romantic but good friends with him. Amy's fundamentals can't have her be with anyone but Sonic but his fundamentals doom the relationship from ever happening. It's like what once heard an anon saidโAmy is Wendy and Sonic is Peter Pan with the heart of a boy forever.
>>532680852I ship her with Tails.
You can identify a comicfag easily by getting them to call something OOC that happened in Japan a million times
Sonic characters with this feel?
https://youtu.be/Afetnw70S04
>>532681346Nobody consumes Sonic in Japan.
>>532680852I've about had enough with shippers just targeting her, seeing her as an inconvenience so make her a cuck to my ship, or my favorite girl got vaulted while this one keeps trucking? I hate her.
Now she's as platonic to Sonic as any other character is to him and people just won't stop seeing her as an object to their shipping just because she's one half of the most popular ship.
>>532677497That's not a no, but also not a yes.
Krack is in Epstein's list
>>532681226I prefer this.
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>>532680495as far as every movie fan is concerned, Movie 3 is just the final 10 minutes or so after Sonic gets Super Sonic. The crappy movie before that of Tails and Knuckles and the queer indian may as well not exist in their minds, cause nothing cool happened in any of it just lame references and memefaces
agree though the action in Superman wasn't that good. Like the Terrific scene was too adhd and doesn't focus
>>532681507Long running action RPG by Falcom. It has the main protag, Adol, traveling the world and getting embroiled in local conflicts until he resolves them and fucks off his next destination. Very few recurring characters, and those conflicts are largely self-contained.
Sonic writing should operate like this.
>>532679382And that's ok, we should teach him about minor things without changing his perspective and shower him with love and care so he draws more <3
Krack should get a job before telling me anything about Sonic.
>>532681926IDW should have been this.
>>532681203Oh my god fuck off with this. You just hate the character of Amy and wish she had a different personality
>>532680214You don't play the games at all.
May I share something hilarious but also obsessive?
Sonic stories need to be like the average Disney world in Kingdom Hearts. Sora, Donald & Goofy stumble into this new world and its conflict, get into a bunch of wacky hijinks, fight powerful bosses, forge deep bonds of friendship, and then leave.
"The planet as cool and blue as me!"
Sonic should go back to loving nature.
>>532682116Explain to me how you reconcile Black Knight Sonic with Lost World Sonic. I'll wait.
>>532682328do you know where you are
>532682413
>avatarfagger
Don't waste my time, tranny.
>>532682397Evan Stanley is encouraging people to boycott Paramount.
Do you consider rap as music? Do you think mainstream and underground rap are two sides of the same coin, despite what the underground apologists may say otherwise?
>>532682138nta but from what friends tell me of Ys - yeah, Adol is basically Windnic before Windnic.
>>532682503It's just the #1 Wind hater, Eggman.
>>532682526heh. too bad she doesn't have any real world influence or that would be funny to happen
>>532682567It is a rare RPG series with episodic storytelling and a core protagonist(and deuteragonist)
>>532680852Why can't they just make Amy a "cool" character and drop shipping entirely? The movies are already doing it.
>>532682526Agagagagagagag
>>532661657What happened to Rouge' skin? Why it so burned?
>>532682567The 4th Doctor was windnic before that.
>>532682625>>532682726Here is the proof
https://spiritsonic.tumblr.com/post/789973844930723840#notes
>>532682674Amy was created specifically for shipping you dumb fuck. The entire point of her existence is to say Sonic doesn't care about kissy face.
>>532682526Source or gtfo
>>532682526That's a good thing, but that won't change my opinion of her. Paramount is garbage, but Evan is barely any different.
>>532679489I like Belle. I don't think Belle meeting Sage is going to be the big drama some expect it to be.
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>>532682413Lost World clearly takes place before the Storybook games, which is when Airheadnic decided to hit the library and become Booksmartnic.
>Visit "haunted lighthouse".
>Get in trouble with the fucking military.
Just post cute fanart, I need it rn.
>>532682871Well duh, she traces.
>>532682871She's able to draw some good cards. She's the supreme trickster of /sthg/.
>>532682861SHE IS WORKING ON CROSSWORLDS WHERE SEGA IS COLLABORATING WITH PARAMOUNT!
>>532683043>Visit "haunted lighthouse".>Get in trouble with the fucking military.WHAT
>>532682875Gwen Stacey got fridged because of shipping and Marvel reinvented her into another Spiderman.
>>532683043>>Get in trouble with the fucking military.Explain.
>>532682674SONIC is the cool one. Amy is passionate and romantic. That's part of their dynamic. Amy embodies all the shipping stuff Sonic doesn't care for. Although he does like Amy, you won't find Sonic considering a genuine relationship, and so the chase will go on. And honestly, the chase itself is already their "relationship" as far as its gonna go, and maybe they both like it that way.
>>532682861why would you ever support NPR
i dont think you do a good think funding the jews at paramount but funneling this money to npr and pbs is the ext stupidest thing you can do with your money
>>532683237The chase has been totally retconned out. Look at Shadow Gens.
Ironically Evan should quit her job because Sonic is too tied to paramount now.
>>532683043You can't just say that and not elaborate
>>532683207She is literally not the same character. It isn't character development. That's just Peter if he was a blonde punk rocker.
Give me your realistic prediction for the Crossworlds roster. Other than the ones already announced, which game characters will be added in the future updates?
>>532683043get off 4chan sonic
>>532683459They just integrated her into the main universe.
>>532683568Crash Bandicoot
>>532683450Or she should conspire to stop the jews greasy fingers from controlling it
>>532683043Kek, tanglebros are a menace
>>532683202>>532683227Went with a friend to make sure he didnโt get himself robbed or something and it turns out it was reused as a base.
By the way, I noticed you placed a tracker on my fucking phone, assholes. Say hello to everyone here.
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>>532682861lol this is hilarious, Paramount lost another shill. I'll just gonna sit back and see where this goes.
>>532683309>Boycott Paramount>Donate to NPR and PBS>All three are owned by JewsEvan is too naive. Good luck finding a company/organization that isn't controlled opposition nowadays.
>>532683970Anon, me thinks this is a secret military base that should be known
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What the hell is Director Rockwell doing with Dexter Morgan
Evan Stanley is a hypocrite.
Silverfags have to be the angriest sector of the Sonic fandom
>>532683970So did they aim their guns at you or something? What was the confrontation like? I've been to couple bases before, nobody just waltzes in.
>>532684416What movie/series?
>>532682503>No argumentsAs a reward for my 95398724th victory against the windfag menace, I will rape Amy.
>>532683037Why does he look so homosexual in that image?
The weather started to cool down
>>532684349Oh it should be, but alas I got eyes on me making sure I don't spill the beans.
So glad our boys in fatigues are doing their job, keeping watch over some dork who posts on 4chan about video games and cooking.
>>532684538Which is funny because he's probably the most shilled background character in the past decade
>>532682090Bullshit. I just care about her more than you could possibly imagine because I'm sick of her being such an object of ridicule via shipping. If I didn't care about her I would just ship her off with another character, but I understand she fundamentally only has Sonic in her heart but at the same time I've grown to accept it can never happen, so what's the harm in having this girl be aromantic with him now if the wind can't be in a relationship?
She's still Amy if she hates boredom and seeks advertising which she can with or without Sonic.
If Sonic could love, I'd be more than happy to tell you Sonamy is perfect, but it can't happen and that's why I think it's cruel to set up the premise but never deliver just because of some windshit. Here's where the movie has the rare opportunity to just deliver, but if it doesn't happen I'm not complainingโI've more than seen Amy than just shipping which I believe she's above especially petty shit like sonaze, sonurge, sonouge, and sonally schizos taking it out on her even though the girl don't chase him anymore.
>>532684416that's so strange she showed up in my breaking bad too!
>>532685006>>532685006Yes shilled. Out of all background characters he's the one who got most stuff and appearances over the years
>anon brought the glowies to our mongolian hedgehog shipping forum
>>532684792>I'm sick of her being such an object of ridiculeAnon, she's a woman.
>>532685172Prease understand. He was supposed to be the next Shadow.
Next Sonic game needs to score at least a 90 to justify continuing the series
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>>532682871Truthnuke, I can only use my mouse right now
How would you feel if Sonic got the mega man treatment, /sthg/?
What if Shadow met Kim Wexler
Do you think there will be any media content with Sonic crossing over with Nickelodeon outside of the game?
>>532685172(me)
By "background character" I mean a character that isn't a part of the core 4, Eggman, Shadow or Rouge. In other words the SA2 cast
>>532684792Sonic can love.
>>532685172I get that you're baiting, but him appearing often as a retarded jobber is not a plus.
>>532684792It's better for you to keep your hopes down, since the movie will not "deliver" anything. Sonic is a static franchise. Even if some characters may pass through a character development phase, their personalities are nonetheless going to be reset sooner or later. It's always like that in this series.
That's just how Sega does things. Sonic is a potential-only franchise. If you don't want to accept that, then move on from the series. It's sad, but that's the harsh truth.
>>532685231What is the CIA endorsed ship?
>>532681203>>532684792>Anti-Sonamyfag tranny uses AI to aid him in explaining why he hates the core basis of Amy's character
I think it's perfectly reasonable for people to take one hard look at windnic and decide that he isn't a good boyfriend for their favorite female character.
>>532685824I'm not baiting. After some thinking I guess Metal Sonic got more appearances in the past decade but that's it.
Silver got more screentime than any other background character, like Blaze, Chaotix, Babylon Rogues and others. Whether you think it's good or bad publicity it's up to you.
>>532684792>so what's the harm in having this girl be aromantic with him now if the wind can't be in a relationship?Because Amy herself inherently is not aromantic and never will be. She is romantic to her core, and being very open and direct about it is her whole thing. "Oh, just let it be platonic and aromantic" is Anti-Amy.
>>532685231>brought the glowiesContext?
>>532685525kek, blessed pic
Which girl character needs more porn
DO NOT try and destroy Sonic's "wind".
DO NOT try and destroy Amy's "love".
>>532685525Bestie Box should be a new playable character in Crossworlds, just like the Iron Checkpoint Crate in Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled.
>>532686598I accept your terms :^)
>>532685525Did Sonic marry Surge?
This general is banned in the UK
>>532686505Witchcart. There isn't enough human MILFs in the series.
>>532686225I don't think you know what a background character is.
>>532686882Sorry bro, we're still here.
>>532686840That's destroying Amy's "Love", because Amy specifically loves Sonic and chases after Sonic.
Amy loves Sonic, period. Sonic doesn't want to be in a relationship, period. This entire thing is wired deeply into how both characters operate. Just as it would be out of character for Sonic to settle down, it would just as out of character for Amy to ever give up or move on. They are both in this chase because both of them are always going to think like this, and are too stubborn to ever change their minds.
>>532686219I think it's perfectly reasonable for people to take one hard look at shippers who are mad he's a bad self-insert for shipping and think that's a pretty faggoty reason for hating the real character.
Shadow wouldn't date Amy either, btw. Half of you want Amy to move on to a character who'd be even harder to earn the love of, not only is he traumatized but he has oneitis for a different girl. Even if he didn't, Rouge is also obviously gunning for his affection with limited success. Shadow had trouble expressing his care even for Maria, he didn't know how to hug her back, and you still think he'd be a good shoulder for Amy to cry on.
>>532687065NTA apparently powers that be will be blocking all incoming traffic from British IPs because of the new law. "Identify yourself" is something that goes against this site's policies.
>>532686219Amy was literally made for Sonic. Oshima and Hoshino will tell you.
>>532687065>>532687182tl;dr UK government is forcing age verification on any "NSFW" website "to protect the kids". Includes anything related to porn, alcohol, gambling etc. You need to upload a government sanctioned ID (such as a driving license) or take a selfie to the website for an age check.
Because this costs money, smaller websites have straight up blocked UK IPs, leading to a big pay day for VPN companies.
4chan hasn't been blocked yet, however.
>>532686882NOOOOOOOOOOO! My precious Fleetway posters!
>>532686963Dude I'm talking about a character that isn't relevant currently not literal NPCs.
Silver is on the same tier as the Chaotix not Shadow
Regardless of tiers though, Silver still consistently gets more merch, more game appearances and more comics appearances than most characters. It's clear Sega still wants to make Silver a thing. Unlike Blaze who nowadays has to rely on comics and mobile games, gets less merch, and is barely advertised in Crossworlds
ShadallyScribbles is a spy
Sonic is the wind!
I don't understand why you guys insist this is somehow incompatible with him having a love interest. He was literally conceptualized as having a girlfriend right from the beginning
>>532687384>any "NSFW" website "to protect the kids".>Includes anything related to porn, alcohol, gambling etcWho does this help? They know this doesn't stop any of the actual harm occurring, right?
>>532687557A background character is a character in the background.
>>532687302>>532687384What? They're forcing Britbongs to identify themselves on the porn websites they visit? This place is gonna be a graveyard at night in America, huh? Imagine being a Britcuck right now kek
>>532687302>>532687384>"to protect the kids"It's obviously just a excuse to implement more permanent draconian censorship. It's likely that other western countries will do the same thing down the road.
>>532687384Well I hope more and more websites block the UK then.
>>532687746Doesn't change what I said. Use whatever definition you want
>>532687805Get a job krack
>>532687953Finish your request duokek
>>532686445Scroll up, fag
>>532687824Didn't an American state do this recently?
>>532687824France is already considering it and implemented it in small extents.
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>>532688305No Kit stooooop
You and Tails should be friends!
>>532688382^-^
>>532688219>>532688382Avatarfagging pedophiles
>>532687737The idea is to leave more digital trails for them to spy on citizens
>>532688337Nta Arizona to e6? Yes.
>>532687805>Imagine being a Britcuck right now kekIt's fucking annoying and anyone complaining about it is just being written off as a porn addict by the government and general media.
There won't be any real blowback until more common sites like Wikipedia and possibly Twitch/Youtube start implementing this stuff.
On the bright side, I needed an excuse to finally get a VPN sucks it doesn't work here lmao
>>532687698Scribbles made me cry over Biolizard
>>532688473What do you think you achieve by repeating this every single day? Genuine question
>532688620
>still avatarfagging
Kys pedo
>>532686378>and never will be That's exactly what they've been doing with her, though.
>She is romantic to her core, and being very open and direct about it is her whole thingI'd argue her core is more wearing passion on her sleeves which comes with a nuance that people couldn't handle. It's too late now she's changed and I think it's for the better.
>Oh, just let it be platonic and aromantic" is Anti-AmyDisagree with you there, I think anti-Amy is having her lose hope and stop wearing a smile like that one stupid panel of Amy of all people telling Cream how does she keep on smiling. Amy above all hates boredom and is the heart.
>532688657
You're like a broken record
Scribbles will embed Shadria into the fandom
>>532687557I think Silver already is "a thing" in the eyes of normalfags or younger kids. Silver fails in the eyes of fans because unfortunately he doesn't have a story as good as other popular characters. He has a cool design and powers, and for a lot of people that's enough, and so the merch sells, and that's why they make it
>>532687810I can wind to this
>532688840
You're an avatarfagging pedo
>>532688620Cool pic
>>532688653It's okay Tails I'll protect you
Evan isn't the problem with Silver. Sega not reigning her in is the problem. IDWfags defending a literal fanfic characterization is the problem.
Britfags would stop shitting the general
>>532689467Sega don't give a fuck about the comic, so they can just hand wave it away if anyone asks.
>>532689709Reminder the rapefic bitch who destroyed our community lived in bongland
Should ban westniggers from 4chan
>>532688579I feel like it won't just affect Britbongs. When it comes to sites that are only partially NSFW, isn't t possible that they will sanitize those sites for everyone to avoid having to implement ID verification? They know it impacts traffic.
I've been thinking as of late that the internet in general should be like 15+ if not 18+, since I know I personally was fucked up by being on the internet at a young age and clearly so were many others. Gen Z is extremely maladjusted, mentally ill, radicalized, and socially isolated. But it's just so difficult and inconvenient to enforce, there's inappropriate content all over even normie platforms like the ones you mentioned.
>spoilerSome do work here, depends on a couple things.
>>532688759Twitter Takeovers saying Shadow's favorite Emerald is the purple one should be a crime. Man, should be green, or at the very least the blue or cyan one.
>>532688854I kneel to Scribbles.
>>532689982Twist her nips!
We need more cool robots
>>532690015The purple emerald stuff comes from lavenders probably
Anyone here likes battle cats? Thereโs a collab now
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>>532690015Gen Z is extremely maladjusted, mentally ill, radicalized, and socially isolated.
>radicalizedIn which matter, to be exactly?
>>532690015nah age verifications don't belong
if your kid gets involved in dumb shit online, your kid is dumb, the parents are dumb, all dumb
let natural selection take its course
>>532690015Oh I absolutely believe that social media should have a hard age cap - having that amount of social pressure so young fucks you up immensely -, but as you say actually enforcing it would be near impossible.
Alas, our government will do anything except tell parents to take more responsibility for their own children's web surfing habits, so everyone else suffers as a result.
>>532690225Not him but on both ends of the political spectrum. White gen Z boys are more likely to be further on the right while coloured women tend to be extremely far left.
>>532690015>I feel like it won't just affect Britbongs. When it comes to sites that are only partially NSFW, isn't t possible that they will sanitize those sites for everyone to avoid having to implement ID verification? They know it impacts traffic.This is why I'm saying websites should just block the UK entirely. So their shit laws only affect them and not us.
>I've been thinking as of late that the internet in general should be like 15+ if not 18+I disagree with this however. That's parental and personal responsibility.
>extremely maladjusted, mentally ill, radicalized, and socially isolatedMost people don't use the Internet the way we do. Most people just casually browse shit websites like Facebook or Instagram on a phone and check their privates chat and normalfag porn.
>>532690402The age ID thing is only for the uk. Visitors from other countries wonโt have to offer up their ID. Yet.
>>532689982can someone please explain this fetish
>>532690614They'll either block the UK entirely or self-censor globally before they bother with actual ID verification
>>532690614Yeah, yet. Just block their access to websites if their going to have shit laws. Make it clear that we don't want them.
>>532690402>Most people just casually browse shit websites like Facebook or Instagram on a phoneDo you have any idea what Instagram is like these days? especially Reels.
>>532690614Once they realise just how much free data they can get from this under the guide of "child safety", it's over.
>>532690772No, I don't touch that stuff. But I know normies see normie shit regardless of whatever unmoderated trash the sites host.
>>532690225>In which matter, to be exactly?Politically and socially. It's normalized now for both far left and far right groups to call for the eradication of entire groups of people for belonging to a particular social/biological/political groupings. E.g. "Kill all transphobes with a rock", "It's okay to kill all whites", "It's funny when women get assaulted because they voted for it", "All men are rapist pigs", "We need to exterminate minorities and jews". I see those takes regularly. It's just really bad all around and it's difficult to find spaces that are more neutral, people will cut off their entire families over voting for Trump or some shit and it's just not normal.
>>532684538>no other character's debut was as hated as his in the 2000s >his debut game caused massive overcorrections to the franchise which led to all kinds of agenda like ONLY CLASSIC SONIC WAS GOOD, SONIC SHOULD DITCH THE OTHER CHARACTERS >blamed for Blaze being shafted >His fangirls don't even like his actual character and wrote him into a Deku clone which actually became canon >his haters agree with his fangirls and push the agenda of him being a fraud/bum >SEGA doesn't care about him which makes the discourse around him even worse Yeah I can see why
>>532661953>Riverdale Adkek
>>532655516Could just be an animation error. The animators either didn't notice the awkward positions in this closeup and the previous one or were too lazy to care.
>>532664804 I'll bite, what problems with Blaze? Her character flaws are all just charm points that serve to make her more moe.
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