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Anonymous No.537930516
>>537929593
So Sonic should be able to be deconstructed? As in, he should be able to be portrayed as flawed, eventually come to dislike aspects of himself, and go through character development?
This, of course, includes him acting "OOC" due to different circumstances bringing out different reactions from him.
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Anonymous No.534995912
>>534995419
It's the logical conclusion of both Sonic and Amy's character developments.
Sonic learns to compromise and Amy learns to accept love.
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Anonymous No.534928548
>>534928439
It's escapism slop, plain and simple. It's isekai slop of the highest degree.
Sparky is the only one autistic enough to actually self-insert as Tails, but that's not the case for most w*ndfags.
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Anonymous No.534801753
>>534801635
They self-insert as Sonic so they can feel like they're better than they actually are. That's the whole point.
Another reason Sparky is based is because he openly says he self-inserts as Tails and doesn't play-pretend (as much).
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Anonymous No.534563669
>>534561310
Uhh, no? I just want to hear people's thoughts on how Sonic would handle a complex and non-black-and-white situation, as that's the type of thing he has never dealt with before, and thus, is perfect for a character arc where his flaws are put in the spotlight. I'm actually glad you tried to engage with he hypothetical.
Me? I don't know exactly what he would do. My headcanon arc has a similar situation, but it implies Sonic having flaws and going through development. Really, maybe this IS just a way to challenge W*ndfags by showing them their W*ndnic can't solve every situation, but I also did want to get outside opinion. Sorry if I sounded pretentious.
>>534562123
>If you know and understand a characters' traits, likes, and dislikes, you can get a good feel for how they'd react in certain scenarios
Yeah, but that's still just an inference. You don't actually KNOW if he eats Nachos or not. You're just making up a headcanon in your head and trying to justify it with what "would fit him". And that's fine, but that just adds to my point that the whole "OOC" shit is dumb, because if you can say you have a "feel" he wouldn't do this based on such-and-such reason, then I can do the same thing, and it could be equally as valid. For example, Sonic is a teenage skater "screw responsibilities" cool dude, so his smoking a cigarette wouldn't be OOC, right?
>And even then, Sonic has a pretty unshakable will, he can brush off things that would traumatize normal people
Sure, but he could still have weaknesses. It's a common trope with superheroes that they can risk their lives but can't handle romance or whatever.
>I'm struggling to think of one outside of things an e10+ franchise would never allow.
Sonic is usually strong, useful, and considered the voice of reason by his friends.
If he is beat up, a liability, and his friends think he's wrong, is it still OOC for him to crash out at them?
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Anonymous No.534501732
>>534501608
>Some bullshit happens that makes it so Sonic is indisputably always in the right
Hmmm, I wonder if a w*ndfag wrote this.
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Anonymous No.534450834
>>534449865
The "substance" is the dream, the goal, the set path. No matter how many obstacles the path has, Knuckles will stay on it no matter what.
Sonic doesn't have a dream. He runs towards nothing in particular. He zig-zags around the field and jumps from one path to another with no goal in mind.
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Anonymous No.534376932
>>534374065
It might not be that bad, but I'm sure there are at least a few who mostly do it for virtue signaling. Y'know, the reputation of going "Look, I'm an oldfag! I'm like the original audience before those heckin' newfags took over!".
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Anonymous No.534307414
>>534307113
You mean the creator of Black Knight Gary Stunic?
You mean the creator of "The earth revolves"?
That Maekawa?
Wow...
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Anonymous No.534188198
>>534187631
Wait until W*ndnic finds out that the very basis of politics is people giving and taking away freedom from each other no matter which system it is. Even in modern democracy, it is nothing but a system of tribalism where people will join voting blocks so they can take resources away from other voting blocks, which many times creates a "tyranny of the majority" which can be even worse than a single tyrannical ruler since a single person can be judged and held accountable while a population of individual voters cannot.
But I'm sure W*ndnic thought all this through, right? He's the W*nd after all.
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Anonymous No.534115143
>>534114531
Movienic >>> W*ndnic
Moviedow >>> Vegetadow
Movieckles >>> Rockles
SA1ails > Movieails >>> Inconsistentails.
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Anonymous No.534052691
>>534042210
Sonic needs to go through character development and grow as a person so that Sonamy can finally be true.
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Anonymous No.533984957
>>533984682
Oh cool. I'll just write him so that he does, then.
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Anonymous No.533795359
>>533794913
Oh, so that's even better! I can just write a guy who's faster than Sonic, then.
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Anonymous No.533641372
>>533641157
Not in the real world, they don't. In the real world, Sonic is a NEET waiting for the NEETbux to stop coming so he can kill himself. We've gone through this already.
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Anonymous No.532775341
>>532773926
Funny how you just discard the canon that you dislike and validate the canon that you like, as if it's not completely arbitrary.
No, bitch. SA1 is a Sonic game. Forces is a Sonic game. They're both canon. And since they contradict each other, then there is no Sonic canon.
Shrimple as that.
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Anonymous No.532680214
>>532674754
Because "Gamenic" doesn't exist as the character contradicts himself multiple times in the games.
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Anonymous No.531602110
Even if Sparky is the biggest Windfag, he's still the best one. He understands that Sonic works best as a Kamina type, whose purpose is to be surpassed. Most windfags only see Sonic as a self-insert, whose purpose is to surpass others. This fundamental difference earns my respect.
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Anonymous No.530885459
>>530885209
Gaslighting already? Damn, I really am good at destroying windfags. Dunno what I do special, really. I just use basic logic.
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Anonymous No.530852091
>>530851664
>>530851789
Literally all we need to do is bring up 06 and the general flanderization of characters in the 00s to destroy you windfags. Japs did more damage to this franchise than westerners ever could.
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Anonymous No.530807153
They should hire me. I would write Sonic into a relatable uwu crybaby, but at least it would be good.
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Anonymous No.530628146
>>530626554
4000 is really far back huh. Gonna have to retcon that for my Legendary echidna warrior villain based on Alexander the great.
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Anonymous No.530552228
>>530551536
The Job application is a multiverse-level threat that alters reality so that Sonic NEEDS to work, and also makes work boring. What now?
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Anonymous No.530496528
>>530496230
Yeah, that's not a counter-argument. In fact, I usually consider this type of response a concession.
Windfags lose again.
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Anonymous No.530173560
>>530171736
>One Piece fan is a windfag who wants Sonic to always be the Jerry of "Tom & Jerry"
Wow, who would've thought?
I also don't want to see various sides from Sonic or have him be a dimensional character that also has things that make him angry. Nuh uh, he has to be the fairy godmother of the wind.
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Anonymous No.530036515
>>530036329
>What's cool is being unstoppable.
So jewish billionaires that had strings pulled for them before they were even born through nepotism are the coolest people in the world, yeah?
>To be put in the most difficult situations that should completely destroy you, yet you persevere
So a struggler like Knuckles, and not Sonic?
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Anonymous No.529950828
>>529950271
Huh? When did I say anything was bad? I'm just trying to determine Sonic's ideology here.
>To take a life is to take away their freedom.
Sonic not respecting their freedom to take away their freedom is STILL him not respecting their freedom.
You sound like you're going through cognitive dissonance. He is either "Might makes right" or he would watch a man kill themselves, there's no other choice.
>>529950696
Don't bring up the trolley problem. He's just gonna say "Sonic would find a way to save everyone CAUSE HE'S SANIC!!" or some shit.
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Anonymous No.529584708
>>529583567
>Do you think Sonic has no sense of determination or willpower to press on towards whatever his goal is?
Wait, so he DOES compromise? I'm sorry, I thought you said that anything Sonic does isn't a sacrifice or responsibility since everything that requires effort is conveniently something he takes primal bodily pleasure in doing.
Now you're going back on it and saying he DOES have the capacity to sacrifice? I dunno, you keep using vague terms, almost as if you don't have a definition for Sonic's character and only pick and choose which characteristics sound more convenient.
Yes, convenience. Sonic is the paragon of convenience.
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Anonymous No.529435637
>>529434802
Good bait, and you even added the Silver part in the end to give it away. 9/10
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Anonymous No.529056743
>>529056393
Yeah. The pitch is to change the current narrative that Sonic is not good at handling, instead of only making stories where the narrative perfectly fits the character and so they never face any challenges. Glad you understand.
Also, I like how Sonic being defeated is apparently "nerfing" him. Like he has to be the strongest person in the world at any given moment.
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Anonymous No.529018770
>>529018348
>Which is why you pair him with another character.
Did you even listen to what I said? You can add a billion Sonic dicksuckers, it won't matter if he keeps being a shitty character.
>Nigga, these are cartoon characters.
I guess now every story that requires any suspension of disbelief needs to be completely nonsensical, yeah?
>>529018382
He gets closer than Gamenic, but is still a Gary Stu at its core. All the character writing energy goes to relationship drama bullshit.
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Anonymous No.528651827
>>528647661
I'd normally say it's cool and soulful, but since you said it's the w*nd, then it's cringe and gay.
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Anonymous No.528536732
>>528536524
>Get some hobbies. Go out more. Work out. Ride your bike. Take in the Sun. Feel the wind on your body.
If you did that, you wouldn't need Windnic. That's the thing.
>I did, you just didn't like what I said.
You never addressed any of my points; you just pivoted like all Windfags do.
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Anonymous No.527926979
>>527877637
>The best stories managed to make it work
The best stories had the MC sacrifice nothing, change nothing, learn nothing new, and win everything in the end?
Sounds like you just have shit taste, honestly.
>do you want Sonic to be more complex with his mindset or to at least find a point on why Sonic does what he do?
I cannot see a good story coming out of the way Sonic is structured. His very nature is fundamentally flawed because it is so intertwined with how the very world operates that I can't even see him as a character.
A real character both affects his surroundings and is affected by them. But Sonic only goes one way. He affects the world but is never affected by it. In summation, while other characters are PART of the world, Sonic IS the world itself. Sonic doesn't change his personality to adapt to current circumstances; the circumstances adapt so that Sonic's unchanging personality is always the correct answer.
It's not that he's a person who doesn't wanna change. That could be interesting, a flawed character who's stagnant. But Sonic is a person who CAN'T change. His stagnance is forced upon him by the meta rulings that surround him.
And sure, you need to have meta rulings to have a story, as creating a scenario where a character needs to change his viewpoint to find the right answer is a meta rule imposed by the writer. But only Gary Stus like Sonic are DEFINED by meta rulings. The scenarios will only be ones where Sonic's viewpoint is correct, which is both boring (because nothing new happens), and not inspirational (Because it can't be applied to the real world).
You don't like the idea of me deconstructing Sonic because you know what he'll be left as without the meta: A homeless, jobless, irresponsible, dreamless adrenaline addict.
>>527879961
Yeah, picking an inconvenient path is a pretty basic form of character development. People are drawn to the path that's most convenient, so doing the opposite is usually the virtuous move.
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Anonymous No.527872982
>>527872840
Even when you have a chance to redeem yourself, you do nothing simply because it's more convenient. Just like Sonic, huh?
Well, I'll just relish in the fact that I have a foundation for my beliefs and you don't.
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Anonymous No.527871852
>>527836472
>"It's really not"
>Provides no counter-argument or justification.
I woke up expecting better.
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Anonymous No.527700367
>>527700002
That does sound windier than the stormy peaks of Mount Everest.
>>527700169
Sonic is windy as hell in Archie, just in a different way.