Thread 11959901

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>11954827

Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etc
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/GENERAL GUIDE
https://rentry.org/vrbin

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQ
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

== GAMES/RESOURCES ==
DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8
QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU

PortaDOOM:
https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
HALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:
https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:
https://mega.nz/#F!3t8nzSIS!947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqA

Assorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA

MIDI COLLECTIONS
https://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.zip
https://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQ
https://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009
https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
https://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/

MODDING RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37
https://realm667.com/

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==
THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom thread"/type/op/

OUR WADS/MODS
https://rentry.org/vrdepot

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE/WAD DATABASE
https://vrdoom.booru.org/
https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/

MULTIPLAYER SERVERS
US West: https://clovr.xyz/
CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
Duke It Out in /vr/
Game : DN3D | Deadline : Jan 1st 2026
Tile/Con pack: https://files.catbox.moe/qns3f9.zip
Rules: https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11835634

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
/Vertex Relocation/
IWAD : Doom 2 | Format : Boom
RC3: https://files.catbox.moe/aoucg0.7z

=== NEWS ===
[8-18] RMG City, an MBF21 single map
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4105

[8-17] Eventide, an episode for Doom II
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/4104

[8-17] Source code for PowerSlave Saturn is open free
https://github.com/Lobotomy-Software/SlaveDriver-Engine

[8-16] Chocolate Doom v3.1.1 released
https://github.com/chocolate-doom/chocolate-doom/releases/latest

[8-15] We Have Doom at Home came out
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154723

[8-14] Quake 2+2 Jam announced for Quake IV 20th anniversary
https://desuarchive.org/vr/post/11948657

[8-12] XMAPEDIT has been updated
https://github.com/NoOneBlood/xmapedit/releases/latest

[8-11] Odamex v11.1.0 released
https://github.com/odamex/odamex/releases/latest

[8-10] Absurdism, a monster mod by Anon
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154653

[8-10] Quake 2: Call of the Void comes out 9/12/25
https://x.com/Q2CallOfTheVoid/status/1954616632677949605

[8-1O] Favillesco grows as full trilogy
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154622

[8-09] CPD 2 by Cheesewheel
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154633

[8-07] Heretic + Hexen remaster is out
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3286930

[8-06] Nugget Doom v4.4.0 released
https://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases/latest

[8-03] Urban Warfare, an MBF21 weapon mod
https://doomworld.com/forum/topic/154541

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0
TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST (ideally with the [MM-DD] date bracket)

>>11959901 (OP)
>AAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAA INDEED

>>11959901 (OP)
>>11959914
>AAAAAAAAAAA

>>11959901 (OP)
>>11959902

Please use the updated link with updated doom infographic: https://imgur.com/a/wB0psIa

>>11959914
I'm gonna be honest, knowing you'll hear this sound every 30 seconds pretty much ruined Serious Sam for me.

>>11959941
>please be a faggot
no?

>>11959946
Don't engage.

>>11959941
speaking of megaman 8bit dm I cant be the only who literally cannot unsee the bdsm red ball in needle man's mouth right?

>>11959950
you're right

serious sam is old school slop

>>11959959
The first Sam is good though. It devolves into madness in the second encounter and onwards.

>>11959950
don't engage with someone who wants to see a doom fangame in the doom fangame image? ironically a cultist tactic desu

>>11959914
I kind of interpreted the "A"s seeping into the border as a cue for a short gasp in feminine fashion, sorts of that you hear before a panic-stricken black out. Speaking of OP's pic of course.

Thank goodness for filters.

>>11959968
>cultist
CRUDUX CRUO

>>11959987
MARANAX INFIRMUX

>>11960030
GEROSHAY CRUO

>>11960041
MARANAX PALLEX

>>11959987
>>11960030
>>11960041
>>11960239

>>11959959
The console game is good

>>11960421
I can hear this in my brain.

>>11960425
That brings back memories... and bloodflow.
Are the Unreal Championship games decently emulatable or are they a just a crapshoot like every other Xbox game seems to be?

Edward1488 is such an annoying retard, every thread he touches turns to shit because of his condescending dumbfuck takes.
He should hold hands with MajorAsspain and jump off a bridge toghether

>>11960479
Who?

>Wake up
>Still no doom challenges

>>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<<

Moonlit District: MAP 02 "Impose" by ZeMystic
Respond with a UV-Max demo; include your time in your post.

Current Record + Wad Download:
https://dsdarchive.com/wads/mnltdst?level=Map+02

Here's a leisurely example demo recorded by me, cl2 UV-max in 3:06:
https://files.catbox.moe/7uaple.lmp

Previous thread winner: Machete map 23 UV-max in 3:44! >>11959430

Despite the difficulty of last thread's challenge, the engagement was relatively high, including some new people. Regardless, I think we're due for something shorter/easier. I like this wad because it makes the old Perdition's Gate textures actually look good.

>>11960503
Hell yea. What exactly is the compatibility level parameter, and how do i know what to use unless specifically told?

>>11960479
Well, he is autistic (not saying that as an insult, he is diagnosed). That's the deal with source port programmers on Doom community. They are talented and are proud of it, but lack a lot of social skills, so they are pain in the ass to engage with. Same thing with Graf and Kraf.

>>11960507
The compatibility for this one is 2 (vanilla). That number represents the engine the wad was theoretically built for. Usually the textfile will specify it, but you can also see that others are recording for this map under cl2 on the archive. The majority of complevels never get used, they're just for historic conservation. Read this if you wanna know more:
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Compatibility#Compatibility_levels

>>11960507
The easiest way to check the complevel is to check the doomwiki for the wad.
You can also open the text file thatcomes with the wad. The first line usually is "Advanced engine needed" and it will say none for vanilla or boom for boom etc.

>>11960528
>>11960551
Thanks Anons, i'll check it out.
>>11960503
Here's my run, i'm going to try to improve routing so i don't have to backtrack for the cyberdemon
https://files.catbox.moe/3tdxy8.lmp

>>11960452
>Are the Unreal Championship games decently emulatable or are they a just a crapshoot like every other Xbox game seems to be?
Xbox emulation has come on a fair bit but it's still rather hit and miss.

>>11960452
>>11960587
they emulate well enough that people play MP on them over Xemu using Insignia without issues, afaik

I'm a retard. How can I duplicate Doom the Way id Did and assign a new sourceport for this? eg. I usually use gzDoom but would like to add a permanent nuggetDoom without overriding my previous settings here.
Is that even possible?

>>11960452
UC2 doesn't actually need emulation, the PC port is mostly functional if you apply all the fixes. The major missing feature is audio. There was somebody claiming to have fixed it I once saw, but they were the kind of fag who only shared the fix by DM.

Nevermind, creating a new profile is the way to go.

>>11960507
https://youtu.be/XFZFNE0a82w

>500 monster map
>500 monster map
>600 monster map
>500 monster map
>episode finale: 500 monster map

>>11960630
i mean 500 monsters sounds reasonable if it's like...zombies, and imps, and the level is really big, but i assume you're dealing with 500 pain elementals and cyberdemons

I haven't tried Q2Pro's main branch lately, I should see how it works.
>>11960630
What's the wad?

>>11960614
https://www.runesofwar.net/unreal-championship-2-leaked-pc-how-to/
Pretty comprehensive article for getting it working.

>>11958080
>cool, but you forgot the secret and all kills so not uvmax
My retarded ass though uv-speed and uv-max were synonymous.
The challenge is over and its not anywhere near the record time but here's my proper uv-max demo.
>>11955004
4:30 https://files.catbox.moe/tm5jmr.lmp

>>11960503
>I think we're due for something shorter/easier
These challenges finally motivated me to get good, i sucked at 2-shotting cybers and the previous one gave me a good reason to practice.
Bless you, anon

>>11960670
>retarded plasma made infographic

>>11960670
>anons might midi
128 Doots of /vr/ when?

>>11960670
>completely women improved

There is something strange about Nugget Doom 4.4.0, shooting with pistol or shotgun is bugged - feels like there's sort of input delay and the frequency of shooting is not constant, this is especially noticeable when moving forward.
Compared to dos Doom and gzDoom and those feel normal.
However because I don't have a comparison video I'll this to (you).

>>11960670
>play hexen man mods cool
Hexen mods are cool.

>>11960670
Shitty sounds, damn. Wanna sound IPs?

>>11960685
*leave this to (you)

i can't deal with episode 4 on -fast. couldn't even get through the second room last night, and i know from experience e4m2 is a really bad time

should i finally just play on normal speed or git gud?

>>11960642
Eviternity 2

>>11960503
>CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE
more like classic dumb challenge, lmao

>>11960696
I think you should pick the third option, which is to stop posting.

>>11960713
Will you please explain this joke already?

>>11960714
why

>>11960503
>It's squonker slop (again)
Wolfenstein was the last good one, somebody takes this guy over

>>11960710
Random ass sampling for something I've never played:
>map04 - 193 monsters
>map09 - 587
>map12 - 362
>map13 - 240
>map17 - 356
>map18 - 471
>map19 - 262
>map24 - 644
>map27 - 312
>map28 - 250
Seems like a decent spread, I should try it out next.
>>11960634
Biggest counts were imps, zombies, former corporals, and revenants so it doesn't seem too chunky.

>>11960634
500 zombies and imps is even more unreasonable than a slaughter map of revenants and cyberdemons
30 minute labyrinth crawl of shooting fodder only to be killed by the ultimate fight of 8 archviles and mancubi in a small room

>>11960750
>500 zombies and imps is even more unreasonable than a slaughter map of revenants and cyberdemons
Depends on the weapons on the weapons and level design.
>30 minute labyrinth crawl of shooting fodder only to be killed by the ultimate fight of 8 archviles and mancubi in a small room
Not saving for 30 minutes straight? Asking for trouble, especially if it's a map you've never played.

>>11960756
>Depends on the weapons on the weapons
coffee time

>>11960750
Mite as well scour some personal blogs or even hit the idgames roulette to find things you'd most likely to enjoy. Your criticisms will never be addressed.

>>11960670
>hidden example whatever
>autistic weapons

>>11960760
Funny thing is there's always stuff coming out to suit that kind of need for low numbers, We Have Doom At Home came out the other day and that's pretty minimal.

>>11960520
>actually getting an autism diagnosis
why he done did that

>>11960520
Makes it a nightmare to convince them that an idea of theirs they've pushed through isn't the best.

Along that theme, no amount of explaining to Xaser has gotten through to him that he's made the Bloodscourge a worse, more unreliable weapon, because his change makes sense to him.

>>11960503
1:58 https://litter.catbox.moe/cmyo8l7wag3devjz.lmp
litter because normal shitbox just gave me 0kb file twice

>>11960771
>We Have Doom At Home
I don't think the guy behind it deserves the kind of accolades he's been getting from my past two play experiences from him, and wouldn't expect from this one much improvement. Maybe set on a graphic designer exclusive role or something.

>>11960787
Still holding off from writing a report to them myself not only because I'm procrastinating idiot, but also because I really don't wanna fight with prick walls.

>>11960792
another 1:58 https://files.catbox.moe/n0osfd.lmp

>>11960818
Can't blame you, I saw the Headless Chicken mapper having an uphill struggle with Edward over Kex Doom turning the & symbol into the nightmare difficulty text (which is utterly fucking stupid for it to use such a common symbol) and decided I couldn't be fucked with that level of hostility for finding a problem that they don't see as a problem.

>>11960503
>>11960832
1:56 https://files.catbox.moe/095ige.lmp

Does anybody know how much time does it take to kill a cyber with SSG (assume all shots 100% hit) vs RL.

>>11960563
>>11960503
improved
https://files.catbox.moe/4lwjgc.lmp

>>11960660
>https://files.catbox.moe/tm5jmr.lmp
0kb file

>>11960857
>>11960503
1:53 https://litter.catbox.moe/abrrejxmdgkzdre2.lmp

>>11960867
I deleted my demo after posting and i am not doing this shit again

>>11960889
I hope they fix that catbox bug

What is your stance on secret rooms with enemies inside?

>>11960913
it's a classic, like the guy behind the exit door

>>11960913
Only if it's something like >>>/v/718484207
I.e.: the Phantom Express Super Secret in Blood.

>>11960913
Usually fine.
Kinda cringe if fighting them outweighs the reward of finding the secret.
Extremely BASED if it's an insta murder gangrape deathtrap though.

>>11960913
They're groovy, but I don't play with secret notifications so I don't always know what's tagged as one.

>>11960913
Normally fine, though it's fucking weird when I've come across people who aren't LunchLunch sticking a single WolfensteinSS in a secret.

>>11960927
With a really good reward if you don't die.

>>11960503
2:37 https://litter.catbox.moe/gbxxenxmsi186ps9.lmp
First try, i forgot to switch -cl to 2 instead of 9
going to fix that and improve my time tomorrow

>>11960857
>Does anybody know how much time does it take to kill a cyber with SSG (assume all shots 100% hit) vs RL
Got curious and tested it
Cyber takes around 20 hits with the SSG on boom and that takes ~28 seconds
With the RL it takes about 45 rockets and is roughly 2 seconds faster.

>>11960883
1:44 https://files.catbox.moe/70q2di.lmp

>>11960857
>>11960943
>Cyber takes around 20 hits with the SSG on boom and that takes ~28 seconds
>With the RL it takes about 45 rockets and is roughly 2 seconds faster.
That splash immunity really makes a difference.
I love this stuff.

>>11959914
I like how after a long day of blood, murder and mayhem they are just friendly neighbours.

>>11960787
>no amount of explaining to Xaser has gotten through to him that he's made the Bloodscourge a worse, more unreliable weapon, because his change makes sense to him.
Seems like he sees Bloodscourge as Calamity blade but in Hexen: a weapon for ripping through crowds, and nothing more

>>11960889
Restore it

>>11960984
Bloodscourge's area of effect is like one fifth the size of the calamity blade. What does he mean?

>>11960732
>Wolfenstein was the last good one

>>11961046
I think Anon's right about it being what he thinks but fuck knows what got him to think it's what the mage needed.

I finally beat Hexen as Fighter a few days ago, then ran through it again as Cleric in about half the time. I'm still on Hub 1 as Mage, but I'll probably take a hiatus before I get completely burnt. My unsorted thoughts:

-The game is very short if you figure out what to do quickly/get lucky with chosen routes. The length came from me exploring and killing everything.
-Centaurs/Slaughtaurs are significantly less annoying than I was led to believe, although sitting there and gassing them is tedious.
-The armor system makes little sense to me and should've just been Doom/Heretic style.
-Obtaining the fourth weapon happens a lot faster than I'd expect, and finding the final piece is a bit anticlimactic, what with it just sitting in the corner of some basement.
-The commonality/rarity of certain inventory items is nonsensical.
-Dark Bishops seem highly aggressive and will try attacking the player through solid walls, so you'll constantly be hearing them firing while exploring around.
-Wendigos are criminally underused.
-Elemental damage is also criminally underused. I avoided using certain weapons against enemies until realizing they'd take damage all the same.
-I thought Heresiarch was lame at first, turns out I got really lucky in my two fights against him. Meeting him again the second time, he was a lot more resilient and I actually got to see the stuff he did. He's neat.
-Korax might be a tough boss. I wouldn't know, as I had a stack of invulnerabilities and mana refreshers, and spent the whole fight nuking everything that moved without thinking.
-People say Cleric is the best, but I think that's only true for his Wraithverge. Serpent staff and Firestorm sucked at killing them, and made me miss the axe.

The initial wow factor is gone, but I'm still liking it. Here's my question: what comes next? Deathkings? Heretic II? Hexen II?

>>11961110
>Serpent staff and Firestorm sucked at killing them
The snek staff is pretty fucking broken because of it's melee.

>>11961117
I forgot to specify using those weapons against centaurs. Trying to leech them makes their shields reflect the damage back which causes poison for some reason. The firestorm apparently deals most of its damage after initial contact, which they'll already be blocking.

>>11961110
>what comes next?
In what world does the expansion not come before the sequel?

>>11961110
Is this through the original Hexen or the new one with changes?

>>11961110
>sitting there and gassing them is tedious
many such cases

>>11961148
Episode 4 of Doom came out after Doom 2. I thought it would be a similar scenario.

>>11961110
Deathkings has no new assets but has better designed levels that are generally easier to navigate but harder to survive.
Iirc you don't ever fight Korax, but you do fight 4 wyverns on the same map.
I would say vanilla has generally more memorable locations and Deathkings iirc has a really shitty room with Guardian of Steel textures and a bunch of enemies in cages.
Wendigos are also featured heavily in one map but I think it's a secret one.
One really shitty thing in Deathkings is that all normal enemies can now repopulate the map, not just Ettins.

Hexen 2 is for some reason praised but I feel it's inferior in many ways to Hexen. More organic puzzles, but the art style is very drab and generic by comparison, instead of looking like a heavy metal cover the game's hubs are Not-Europe, Not-Aztec, Not-Egypt, Not-Rome, and the uglyness and weird proportions of early 3D also bring it down a bit. You can swim now and there are lots of destructible environments and objects, but it is also way too fast imo (uses Quake's pace).

Couldn't get Heretic 2 to run properly.

>>11961159
The original. I thought the KEX changes were Heretic only.

>>11961180
>I would say vanilla has generally more memorable locations and Deathkings iirc has a really shitty room with Guardian of Steel textures and a bunch of enemies in cages.
Isn't that the secret map? Yeah, it really blows, but most people won't even stumble on it on their playthrough

>>11959959
just like momma used to make

Outlaws remaster just got announced at Gamescom, done by Nightdive. No store page yet.

>>11961206
yet another classic crpyto classic game shat on my slopdive
they're really going for the most obscure titles possible to profane now

>>11960997
>Restore it
how?

>>11961216
>classic crpyto classic
What?

>>11961218
Go to recycle bin and drag it out of there. Assuming you didn't empty that right after deleting the file.

>>11961224
I am a victim of UNIX

Nightdive? More like dumpsterdive

>>11961206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx4O0OmaFNg
Why does the person playing seem like they're intentionally missing shots

>>11961239
It's probably that one chick who they constantly use for video promotional shit, she's awful.

>>11961239
Same tactic as those shitty mobile game ads that intentionally play like shit, make the viewer feel dissatisfied, and want to download the game themself so that they can "do it better".

>>11959902
[8-18] Outlaws remaster announced, coming out November 20th
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3366780/Outlaws__Handful_of_Missions_Remaster/

>>11961259
[8-19]*, oops

>>11961259
I sat out this lucasarts game when it first dropped. Wasn't intentional, I guess I'll have to try it finally.

>>11960507
The Doom Speed Demo Archive will tell you what complevel the demos are, so in the challenge post, where it says
>Current Record + Wad Download:
Open the link and it will say the complevel, next to where it says what engine (source port) was used in the recording

>>11961206
>>11961259
Slop marketing for asocial basement-dwelling boards right on schedule. How'd you pass by without saying howdy?

>>11961206
Nightdive aren't going to let a perfectly decent sourceport get in the way of them doing a rerelease I guess.

>>11960503
TAS 1:25 https://files.catbox.moe/exwcay.lmp

>>11960503
TAS 1:27 https://files.catbox.moe/exwcay.lmp

>>11961287
I wouldn't be surprised if they got the Force Engine guy to help out like they did for Dark Forces. Outlaws isn't avaliable for it yet so maybe they hired him.

>>11961291
Interesting, it's my first time seeing a TAS run in DOOM. It doesn't look entirely robotic, like TAS runs in Trackmania do for example. It looks uncanny. Is this a result of not just spending enough time refining the TAS run?

>>11961287
Considering how often they've "given" upgrades for previous game license holders, it gives the impression that PC users aren't where they're making the money with these ports.

>>11961302
I never did tas'es before too. This is recorded with -speed 50 and woof's new rewind feature

>>11961304
I think they've only done that with games under the id label. I don't think the Dark Forces remaster was given out for free.

>>11961305
oh okay, yea it looked human still but extremely precise and rehearsed, no wonder it looked uncanny

>>11961304
>it gives the impression that PC users aren't where they're making the money with these ports.
Kex basically exists for porting shit to consoles and phones as cheaply as possible, doesn't even matter if the game itself is left in a piss poor state since they just buy them and only half finish them at best.

>>11961310
Neither was Blood for awhile, but these port remasters aren't too appealing for people who have access to the originals anyways.

the gameplay footage in that Outlaws trailer looks like an out of sync demo

>>11961206
>>11961259
>hi-def textures stretched out over 1997 game
looks like shit every single time. nice commercial release.

>>11961206
>No widescreen sprites for the arms
Lol. Lmao.

>>11961183
They're not as seemingly extensive as Heretic's (I've yet to try what they've done) but there are some in Hexen. Most notably are the cleric getting a shield parry and some mage rebalancing: The frost shards seem to deal more damage and can go through frozen enemies, and the mage's ultimate weapon no longer has homing projectiles. Strange stuff.

>>11960801
It's a small community project, you might still find something you like in there. Ash's maps aren't often my thing either, but I've never played something by him I outright hated or felt was wasting my time.

Anyway, I think I'm pretty cozy with Quake mapping now. Not sure the textures I'm using are all that good, but for what it's worth I'm having a lot more fun making rooms than I imagined.
The entry barrier is there, what broke t for me was having someone suggested I select a vanilla map and delete its walls. After that you can see just how close to Doom the layouts can be - helped out a lot in order to visualize what I wanted to make.

Gonna have a drink and be melancholic for a bit. WAD for this feel?

>>11961340
>Take the most iconic super weapon from the entire game
>Nerf it
All the new changes are nice, but fuck this is a real dealbreaker for the weapon rebalances. Hope someone makes a mod to pick and choose which weapon rebalances I want.

>>11960913
>secret is an ultra-hard optional fight
>gives you a megasphere and full ammo at the end
I love those

>>11961346
Gnome Hunters.

>>11959902
>[8-07] Heretic + Hexen remaster is out
...aaaand it sucks.

>>11961356
How much does it charge?

>>11961313
>wahh consoles and phones are enjoying my game wahhh
nigga who the fuck cares. they could be playing retro fps on a samsung refrigerator and i'm happy about it

>>11961347
I'm starting to think Doom modders aren't automatically as good at doing Heretic or Hexen as the think, his map enhancements in Heretic seem to make about half of the maps objectively worse.

>>11961347
>>Take the most iconic super weapon from the entire game
>>Nerf it
A strange trend of theirs. While not as iconic, the spray can in Blood was also nerfed: It no longer goes through and burns multiple enemies, and it's weaker against the fatsos.
Unlike the Bloodscourge and railgun, the spray can nerf wasn't intentional and it's just something they'll never fix. I can't tell if that's better or worse.

>>11961346
Monster Hunter Ltd. parts I and II, or really any Didy map. He has a way of making them comfy.

>>11961359
$14.99

>>11960503
This anon should love this challenge, pic related.
>I think we're due for something shorter/easier ... with fast monsters enabled!
UV-Fast in 2:48 https://files.catbox.moe/yfx8nb.lmp

>>11961186
Probably, haven't played Deathkings in a long while, I am still disappointed by the last level.
>Dark Citadel is just a circle
>Deathkings are just player sprites again

>>11961223
/v/ermin (note the "slop slop slop" in that reply as well as another) can't into English.

>>11960840
>Can't blame you
I mean, I can be THAT spiteful to a point to make them suffer just as much as I would. It's just, like you said, I would probably rather avoid the blatant passive-aggressive attitude that's all too prevalent these days.
On the other hand, letting the issue slide and not try to annoy them into fixing it ain't right either. So I'm still considering it.
>I saw the Headless Chicken mapper having an uphill struggle with Edward over Kex Doom turning the & symbol into the nightmare difficulty text (which is utterly fucking stupid for it to use such a common symbol)
Like it was something Nightdive did? Not them carrying over an odd thing that was in-game before? I assume it's ND fuck-up, but still.

>>11961409
>Like it was something Nightdive did?
Purposely by them, yeah, not at all problem in other ports.

>>11961206
More like Red Dead Dementia since only boomers ever played this game
>>11961363
The issue is clearly that the ports are shitty rush jobs
>>11961259
Ravenbros I don't feel so good

>>11961346
El Viaje de Diciembre

>>11961363
Nightdive's CEO agrees. Videogaems are for children anyways, real men fill their property with cars.

I couldn't give two flying fucks about these Nightdive rereleases either way if it wasn't for the fact that they get propped out by 40 years old groomer manchild ecelebs as the best things ever when most of their stuff is scuffed and they never actually listen to feedback or bug reports.
"Hey, this thing is currently broken"
"Nuh uh you're stupid and I'm smart, it's better this way, anyway, gonna shit out more money by abandoning this port and jumping onto the next project, oh yeah, btw, we removed the old version from the store and we're now selling it in a bundle, so even if you don't want to buy it for our shitty hackjob you're still giving us money and boosting sales figures that help us get even more deals for new IPs k thx bye"
*You have been banned from Doomworld*

>>11961368
Railgun was Sponge's (Bethesda's guy) decision though. I'm not sure but I think Map-Center Jams mod this back to it's original form or then I'm just imagining it. At least it seems to be able to two-shot Icaruses again.

Anyway Q2 is one of their better remasters, which's major problems seem to be caused by Bethesda. Paril (Nightdive guy) wanted to add psx campaign, Zaero and horde mode, but Bethesda doesn't allow patches anymore. But at least he finished the psx campaign as a mod (along with the finished remastered models for the 2 psx exclusive stroggs), Map-Center is converting Zaero, and I'm not sure what happened to horde mode. I'm howerer glad that Q2R exists because it resurrected Q2's modding scene and now we are getting cool stuff like Call Of The Void and Return To Perdition.

>>11961426
When has Nightdive ever removed old versions from the store?

>>11961428
>Railgun was Sponge's (Bethesda's guy) decision though
I don't care who gave the thumbs up.
I'll agree about how cool it is seeing Quake 2 get revitalized, but I didn't like hearing the news about Quakeulf last thread >>11958374
Hopefully he puts out more stuff regardless. Next to none of the new stuff I've played for Q2R so far has matched his maps.

Nightdive haven't made a single good remaster.

>>11961110
>-Centaurs/Slaughtaurs are significantly less annoying than I was led to believe
Yep.
>The armor system makes little sense to me and should've just been Doom/Heretic style.
Honestly, I never really paid attention to armor in Hexen.
>He's neat.
He also has a better design compared to Korax, not to mention that his death animation to similar to D'Sparil's... Similar file names in each name...
>-People say Cleric is the best
He is.
>Wraithverge.
That and his Fléchette are strongest parts of Cleric because they're fucking OP.
> Serpent staff and Firestorm sucked at killing them
Staff is solid on its own, but also very good up close due to healing. Firestorm is good for AOE damage. Both are underwhelming compared to Wraithverge and that does somewhat balances Cleric, but they're still quite nice weapons.
>Here's my question: what comes next? Deathkings? Heretic II? Hexen II?
I would say this: play Deathkings for a as long as you want. When you beat it or just had enough, switch to Hexen 2 and onwards.

>>11961432
All id games and Blood

>>11961448
>>11961124
Oh well... Yeah, for Centaurs, it's chemical warfare or mace beating.

>>11961412
>More like Red Dead Dementia since only boomers ever played this game
Where the fuck do you think you are?

>/v/ tourists are invading /vr/ to bring their shitty opinions because a few retro shooter remasters were made.
Man.

>>11961432
Most notably the Blade Runner fiasco.

>>11961449
All id games are included on their remasters, retard.

>>11961448
I assumed Heresiarch was meant to ride upon Korax as the second serpent rider, but the sprite would've been way too big for their proportions so they were split into separate characters. I guess it can be interpreted as the second rider being so much stronger than D'sparil that even his mount has high intelligence.

>>11961487
I kinda assume other brothers all mutated from too much Chaos, while D'Sparil was the temperate one.

>>11961180
>Hexen 2 is for some reason praised but I feel it's inferior in many ways to Hexen.
Hexen 2 is okay game and I still like its aesthetic, but first game is better in comparison. Sequel could've used more time for refinement in an idea world... In reality, that would've probably lead to the game never releasing or coming out in worse state.
>>11961206
Nightdive's preudo-monopoly for FPS re-releases/remasters is fucking awful.
>>11961310
It's because someone at id is considered enough to be this generous. Other companies (nu-Atari, nu-Apogee, LucasArts, Nightdive themselves) would rather suck more money from veteran players.
>>11961313
>Kex basically exists for porting shit to consoles and phones as cheaply as possible
Except none to Kex-powered re-releases/remasters are on fucking mobile. At least get your facts right.

>>11961340
I have mixed thoughts on the parry after killing Korax by standing in the doorway and just parrying his projectiles for both phases.

>>11961482
What a fucking retard you are, the whole point was that you can't buy them separately anymore so you either give money to Nightdive even if you have no intention of playing their port and everyone who owned the classic versions also gets the new one so Nightdive can just claim "1.5 million users" or whatever in their negociations.

>>11961346
The Thing you can't Defeat.

>>11961449
You can restore previous versions of games on Steam.

>>11961410
Well, that's just fucking stupid then.
>>11961487
I mean, a few things do point to Heresiarch being the original look for Korax. Who the hell knows why they switched it up: either too big to combine both sprites, keep Korax a surprise despite Heretic tease or whatever.
Just combining both designs in some way could be neat though.

>>11961508
It's not like the old id gets anything from buying those anyway. Why the fuck would you want to give money to nu-id aka Bethesda and Microsoft, but not Nightdive. Those are even worse.

>>11961517
I think the flaming face that taunts you in every hub is meant to be Heresiarch's face. The horned protrusions on its face match the lumps of the hood on his sprite. And if you look at Korax's sprites, his face lacks them. But then the concept art in the kex vault shows Korax with the head of his sprite and the wall face, so who knows. The only real answers would have to come from the devs, if they're still around.

>>11961206
Dark Forces 2 remaster when? Unlike the first game it actually needs one

>>11961535
Well it's known that Heresiarch's sprite belongs to original Korax. The Korax sprite in the game was original Korax's (aka Heresiarch's) mount, the serpent that he rode on, because he was a Serpent Rider like D'Sparil. Probably the sprite turned out to be too big, so they scrapped and retooled the idea.

>>11961259
>>11961206
I recently played the GOG version and it ran fine without any patches needed unlike Dark Forces
I heard it was really difficult to get running before the GOG release though

>>11960670
> mega man literally second biggest word after doom
> some fucks will still claim that it's irrelevant and nobody discusses it
Sad.

>>11960696
Pussy. I got to 5th or 6th level on fast. First and second levels are total rape, third is manageable and then they actually get easier. And keep in mind I finished first without secrets (though using a single save state as I have been this playthrough)

>>11961569
Dark Forces 2 remastered with remade cutscenes with Mando, Baby Yoda and Ahsoka, and of course Acolyte references. Ha ha ha!

The worst thing is that, that might actually happen. This is Disney we are talking about.

>>11961575
>I heard it was really difficult to get running before the GOG release though
Not really, you just used the same community patches that GoG preinstalled, difficult for the dopey dumb dumbs though since it takes a whole few minutes of thought and effort.

I'm not sure if I just suck, but my experience of playing Outlaws was quick saving and quick loading every 20 seconds because some jerk from a distance took a lot of my health or they killed me instantly.
Fighting the bosses especially felt like trial and error

>>11961583
Will they include Sheev?

>>11961589
Best things about Outlaws were the hud, the music and the theming, in that order, the gameplay really wasn't all that amazing.

>>11961582
i haven't been savescumming, anon

i'm trying to decide to decide if i should skip episode 4 or move on to doom 2 but seeing as you called me a pussy now i feel obligated to beat it

>>11961589
That level with a sawmill was really annoying because I had no idea I was supposed to shoot the switches to change the water flow.

>>11961591
That would actually be slightly cool, so no.

>>11961578
>two schizos arguing with each other over an infographic
>relevant
i'm fine with your fucking mod being in an image no one looks at more than once or twice but don't delude yourself into thinking anyone is discussing the mod at all beyond meta discussion

>>11961578
Yeah, that happens when you fags start shitting it out every other post because you can't accept how utterly irrelevant your favorite mod actually is. Enjoy your five minutes of attention, I guess.

>>11961509
No don't say that, we don't want to break him

>>11960935
> it's fucking weird when I've come across people who aren't LunchLunch sticking a single WolfensteinSS in a secret.
Who? And what map?

>>11961653
What's this "we" bullshit?

This symbol they used to replace the swastikas looks pretty cool. I wonder if there's lore behind it.

>>11961681
It's a thong.

a lot of the time on harder maps i feel like i'm just playing kaizo mario. quicksave quickload quickload quickload quickload quickload

I got bad cards

>>11961701
>not having five aces up your sleeve

>>11961713
thats where I hide my 3rd mighty foot

>>11961713
Douk doesn't have sleeves.

>>11961594
>but seeing as you called me a pussy now i feel obligated to beat it
based and honor pilled

>>11961663
>Who?
Imagine being forgotten on the one board you're most known for mapping on.

>>11961738
Man, not even the gentleman's sleeve huh? No wonder he's so pissed off.

>>11961681
Yeah, it's a KKK Grand Wizard's symbol. Take that nazis!

>>11961816
>KKK Grand Wizard's symbol
o fugg thats even cooler

>>11961880
Too bad he was LYING like a lying liar that LIES!

>>11960520
>Well, he is autistic (not saying that as an insult, he is diagnosed).
That's no excuse for being a giant wanker and I'm tired of people acting like it is.

>>11961239
Probably don't want to show anyone getting shot for some reason. Can't imagine why, but literally no one got shot. That can't be a mistake.

>>11960935
I've done that.
I'm sure it's not that uncommon.

>>11961247
Woman moment am I right fellow gamers?

>>11961951
1:12 guy on the boxes sounds like he gets hit from the first shot, otherwise I think you're right since you can see the person's muscle memory snapping their aim to an enemy then slowly choosing to shoot around them (1:05 makes it obvious)

>>11959901 (OP)
I tried playing the original Shadow Warrior on Steam, but it would crash halfway through playing it.

>>11961951
>>11961995
Were they not allowed to shoot anyone for the trailer...?

>>11961428
>>11961436
Quakewulf got RL issues to deal with anon, so he is too busy to map, still he donated his map and stuff to be used on Q2+2.
Norway is a shitshow atm, so i dont blame him.

Also Sponge was timmy's nepohire, and that faggot literally emulates what willits shitty behavior and retarded discord censorshit

>>11962076
Jesus what's the radius on the purification light?

>>11961390
>unload 30+ on a moo or two

>>11962083
>Quakewulf got RL issues to deal with anon, so he is too busy to map, still he donated his map and stuff to be used on Q2+2.
>Norway is a shitshow atm, so i dont blame him.
Poor guy so that's understood, though the post in the last thread also made it sound like he was getting fed up with the mapcenter discord shenanigans.
And yeah Sponge sucks, and it's weird that "a Willits" will always curse the Quake games in some way, but the end result are three different Kex'd up shooters having nerfed versions of some of my favorite weapons. Having enemies more easily avoid grenades, which were already subpar compared to Q2's rockets, isn't helping much.

>>11962076
Just recently saw a clip on twitter of BYOC gameplay with a Shadowguy from Deltarune as a character. Is this his BFG?

i decided none of the crosshair packs i downloaded were any good, so i downloaded winlator, slade, some shitty paint tool, and made myself a crosshair to my liking. what do you think?

phonefag master race!

>>11962135
If you mean the fanmade CTF add-on, I don't think it has a BFG.

>>11962145
>what do you think?
You should turn off texture filtering at the very least if you're going to subject us to these hideous screenshots.

>>11962145
Just use an aim assist mod.
>https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=62895

>>11962145
Oh look. It's the faggot with the $2,000 phone.

>>11962135
no bfg, an exclusive class for the BYOC mod, BYOC: Reclassed! Primary designed around CTF play, its far closer to tf2 in terms of weapon loadout and design. read more at the website here: https://reclassed.nekoweb.org/

>>11962158
i'm the sort of the guy who uses 2xSAI, Super Eagle, HQ2x, etc in emulators sometimes

i think it looks good. i tried to find a hd texture pack and they're all amateur jobs or AI slop

sorry

>>11962170
Just don't use HD textures for the 30 year old game, dumbass.

>>11962165
i'm playing with mouse+keyboard anon. when my computer broke, the first thing i did to keep myself sane was get a bluetooth keyboard. got the mouse for christmas last year. phones can do that now

>>11962167
ivan, my $1500 phone is faster than your $500 win10 toaster. you jelly?

>>11959901 (OP)
Is this meme supposed to be making fun of retro FPS "fans" who think Duke Nukem is "problematic" or something?

>>11962176
Go away.

>>11962186
why? i'm enjoying this game and enjoying this thread. when i don't post screenshots you don't even know who i am. desktop pcs are dying, you know, and the next version of android makes huge improvements on desktop mode.

it's not 2015 anymore. windoze is on its way out.

>>11962193
>no expandable memory
>no 3.5 mm trs
>appealing to popularity
meh.

>>11962173
You play like a fag and your shit's all retarded. I've seen your clips, you miss most of your shots. Even if it were wired, you'd still miss and I'd tell you to use it.

>>11962201
yeah, i'm 40 years old and suffer from severe nerve damage. i don't miss all my shots, i mostly post clips of me fucking up for the lulz. i didn't play any fps at all since 2020 or so. my aim's getting better every day! soon i'm gonna get quake 3 and get destroyed on OSP/CPMA!

>>11962184
No, artist was more creeped out by DN3D's enemies than Blood's.

>>11962193
it's a titty spraying milk

>>11962193
Whatever. Enjoy your gacha slop while I'm playing video games.

>>11962219
i don't play gacha slop. the only other games i own for my phone are jrpgs and emulators, and i'm not really playing much jrpgs lately

you should really just get over yourself, or are you mad that мaть won't buy you a win11 machine even though win10 support is ending?

>>11962226
You spent $1,500 on a phone to play JRPGs, emulators, and Doom (1993)?

>>11962236
yeah whatever, you're trying to bait the thread off topic. a few threads ago someone mentioned that a russian anon was constantly shitting up this thread with anti-megaman schizo talk, and you mentioned you're russian, so now you're shitting up this thread with anti-phone talk. good job. quality discussion here. i've already explained my reasoning and i'm not gonna let you derail the thread again. maybe when you start paying your own bills you'll realize you can't afford everything you want to get

>>11962257
You don't know who you're talking to. I'm not Russian, I pay my own bills, my computer cost more than your phone, and–
You're right. This is off-topic. Let's get back to talking about retro shooters and not your shitty, stupid phone.

>>11962264
yeah. i need to figure out how to the paks for quake 1/2/3 so i might just buy a cheap $20 dvd drive and get them off my physical discs i still have from when the games first launched. hope they still work

I'm playing Heretic for the first time. I might like it more than Doom, but that might just be because I've played a shitload of Doom lately and it's nice to change it up.

>>11962272
They're literally linked in the OP, phonetard.

>>11962281
quake 1 is, quake 2/3 isn't. if it is i didn't see it

i downloaded qw and absolutely no one is playing it

>>11962281
oh, i found an exe for quake 3, but not the paks. like i'm gonna run some random ass exe from a mega link off 4chan LOLE. i think the pk3s are just loose on the discs, i can't remember. i'll figure something out. if all else fails i just buy the game off steam (yup, i'm in the process of getting steam running in emulation on my phone)

In case you guys didn't know, the phonefag is the "I used to work for MLG" Yuji Sakai attention whore from a few months ago.

>>11962316
yeah sorry about that i was schizoing out on 15mg of valium a day. shit fried my brain

mlg going out of business a while ago made me really sad. i can't even find any of their vods on youtube

>>11962329
Any chance you could just stop posting and/or kill yourself?

>>11962363
here's your reddit gold

>>11962193
please get a name/trip so I can filter you

>>11962381
he already had one but it made him too easy to ban so he's trying to develop a personality around being a complete faggot instead

>>11962193
>web traffic
How relevant.

just beat ion fury. had alot of fun. kinda didnt like the ending of zones where it said you still have X amount of secrets. a few times i went back and dicked around for a hour to find a few more secrets but overall wasnt worth it. had enough ammo and health armor etc.

is aftershock worth getting? and if so how do i just pirate it to play in eduke 32? bought the original a while back lol had alot of fun tho. didnt beat it for whatever reason but i really enjoyed this game

>>11962461
Aftershock is solid. The new levels are great as are the remixed levels, improving the original campaign immensely imo.

>>11962472
it adds remixed levels?? thats cool. ill just pony up the ten bucks or whatever

>>11962478
Mirrors the levels but with new enemies and placements. It also improves the final level.

>>11962484
ok hell yeah of the base game or just the new levels? either way thats cool

>>11962486
The base game. It also makes Shelly blonde.

>>11962491
okay thats awesome. im down. i also beat it using eduke 32. pretty sure its the latest build or the second to last. downloaded it in july. had some issues with the chain gun and it not letting me switch weapons and when i switched from shotgun to grenade rounds it glitched out too . dont remember that from the base game. interesting. probably need a new version of eduke. gonna try it in the base game exe type in the all weapons cheat and see if it happens before i decide my next play through

>>11962461
Give it a try. Post your thoughts, I developed some of it. Good luck.

>>11962537
>I developed some of it. Good luck.
Whoa, what'd you work on?

>>11962537
It was a great game. You know had fun. Liked that you could go back through the big ass levels. Got lost a few times. Some secrets were useful others werent worth looking for. I did wall hump e. Looked around got a bunch. First half had like 12 a area or more towards the end it was like 5 or 6. Also played on medium so idk. Nothing i disliked really besides the you have X secrets but it was cool like theres still shit to do kinda even tho there isnt any enemies but each other i probably had ten or so left. Maybe they wandered off. Kinda like a lost soul in doom gets lost and its counted as a enemy in gz doom idk. Liked the bosses would like more slaughter style maps like the last level minus the dropping balls in the hole spot. Not saying massive levels with enemies but that small arena shoot out was cool. The whole game was good. Some secrets felt obscure others useless but found a good amount so maybe thats why I always had good ammo and stuff. There was a few platforming sections I just no clipped through. Just dont care much for it any more. Trying to jump from box to box. Like the section with the blue barrels and the fans. I wqs like fuck it im no clipping you know. Not every one is like that but I kinda am. Overall a great game for sure Liked the enemies second half of the game had less bow enemies those guys are kinda cool. Most challenging enemy is the guy who charges at you with metal arms. The guys who shot rockets never felt cheap cause theyre glass cannons. Hell yeah the pistol in the game feels good and the auto aim felt kinda necessary in alot.of situations with the little spiders desu

>>11962363
kek

>>11962363
haha good one. what phone are you using btw?

>>11962591
Don't ask him about his fucking phone, what is wrong with you.

idea for mapping project: theme of taking advantage of GZ Doom's seamless portals and a custom Greek/Minoan texture set because it's Labyrinthine
Is making Cyberdemon the boss too on the nose?

>>11962635
that dude is replying to himself

>>11961367
Hexen's map changes, that I've seen, are pretty much just more visual indicators for what the puzzle switches do. Which I actually like a lot.

>>11962716
Ah. I probably could've guessed that if I'd taken a minute. That's what I get.

>>11962727
>What's going on out there, Ensign Kramer?

>>11962737
omg is that a heckin SEINFELD reference???

>>11962743
You're a sad sack of human shit, but you probably relish in that fact.

>>11962750
yikes, honey! watch that edge!

>>11962752
Yeah, called it.

>>11962754
so true! epic gif by the way, I also love that show

>>11962758
I love you anon, God bless you

>>11961681
>I wonder if there's lore behind it.
It's just what they replaced the swastika with in the German version of Wolfenstein: The New Colossus.

>>11961508
>Is mad you cannot buy the remaster separately from the original
>doesn't already own the originals, thus getting the remaster for free
>doesn't already own the original wad anwyay, like all of us do (should).
>mad you gotta support the devs to buy the original version, which you'd be doing any way if the original version were up for sale.

lol fucking idiot. Just mad NightDive is the one selling it, not that it's available at all. If the original version is available for purchase, and you wanna purchase it, then quit your bitching. It's arguably better because you get so much content by default.

>>11962591
it's an s25 ultra 256gb. it's pretty zippy, i've never owned a high end phone before this one because i didn't pass credit checks until this year. they were out of stock on the regular s25 in 256 but i needed a phone that day, my old phone was broken with infostealer malware.
>>11962716
no, i was actually asleep. if you want to see me start samefagging, i'm pretty sure i can make the phone haterfag schizo out. you're not gonna be able to bully me out of this thread unless you start posting tranny scat porn all the time. i don't even see what i'm doing wrong aside from not using his choice of operating system (which seems to windows 10 LOL)

third world traffic is gonna drop off a clip the following weeks after win10 support ends. hackers are holding their zero day exploits for when MS stops patching and are gonna drop a BOMB on insecure 3rd world pcs

did any good WADs come out this year?
last I played was eviternity 2

>>11962995
>third world traffic is gonna drop off a clip the following weeks after win10 support ends.
Third-worlders use cheap shit phones as their primary personal internet access you worthless retard.

>>11963009
what about all the ppor brazillians and korean kids playing mobashit

what about all the slavs playing quake and cs2 (and well for you, doom)

anyway you seem to think i'm a faggot but one i'm done purchasing what i need to properly play quake online, i might buy you fags a quake server. you want OSP or CPMA?

>tfw will never find that one Hexen WAD I enjoyed ~20-25 years ago again
It must have been back in the days of ftp.cdrom.com or some now defunct hosting website. I don't even know if I'd recognize it if I saw it again. I just know it used that Darkmere style "white fog" and did a really great job creating this tall stone tower you climbed with stained glass windows all around and ooze swamps full of fishmen. That probably describes a lot of levels but this one was special

>>11962948
You are the idiot
>Is mad you cannot buy the remaster separately from the original
Yes
>doesn't already own the originals, thus getting the remaster for free
I do
>doesn't already own the original wad anwyay, like all of us do (should).
I do
>mad you gotta support the devs to buy the original version, which you'd be doing any way if the original version were up for sale.
Which devs? The original ones didn't get squat anyway, but at least if I didn't have the games I wouldn't support Nightdive either by buying them.

To reiterate so that you monkeys can understand:
>Nightdive gives me their crappy port for "free"
>I now show up on their list of total owners, same with everyone else that got them
>Because of this they have a highly inflated number of total owners
>They then use said number in marketing and for negociating deals with other IP holders for future "remasters"
>They slowly gain more and more projects which means that they would own a pretty large chunk of the market so anyone who has any interest in this genre of games will most likely end up giving them money at some point or will inevitably contribute indirectly to their financial success.

>>11963052
show me on the doll where Nightdive touched you, anon

>>11963052
who are you quoting?

What's the difference between Ultimate Doom Builder and Slade? The FAQ says to use UDB, but I though Slade was the standard engine for mapping

>>11963063
SLADE has resource editing capability but map editing is lacking. UDB is purely a map editor but doesn't support any other kind of editing like texture or MIDI imports.

Most people map in UDB than open map in SLADE to do the rest.

>>11963069
>SLADE has resource editing capability but map editing is lacking.
Which is funny because that was what it was intended for.

>there's nigs using win7 in $current_day and boomers think win10 will somehow stop being usable as soon as it's EOL
the actual EOL is like 3 years from now on btw, and even normcattle can get 1 year extension if they turn on some bullshit telemetry options irrc

>>11963073
I just said fuck it and jumped to Linux.

>>11963074
yeah once i'm done paying off my phone and car repair bill i think i'm gonna get a midrange gaming rig, wipe it, then install ubuntu, but i need a monitor and gaming keyboard first. i don't need the horsepower for gaming, i need it for gamedev (i designed a board game and want to make a f2p app out of it)

>>11963087
>gaming keyboard

>>11963091
the keys jam on this one with certain 2-3 key presses. it's not good enough for gaming. i don't plan on getting some $9001 mechanical keyboard as i don't play starcraft anymore, just a decent gaming one

>>11962537
That's cool, what you worked on there? I love Ion Fury so much, one of my favourite games ever genuinely

>>11963069
>but map editing is lacking
elaborate?

>>11962461
>kinda didnt like the ending of zones where it said you still have X amount of secrets.
It's a good addition, considering the nature of levels. If you're doing a 100% playthrough, you wouldn't want to mess that up just because you unknowingly went over to a point of no return.
>is aftershock worth getting?
Yeah, Aftershock is quite nice. If you bought the original, might as well get the expansion. It's worth its price.
>>11962505
>i also beat it using eduke 32. pretty sure its the latest build or the second to last.
Just stick with the one bundled with the game.
>>11962537
>I developed some of it.
Great job, anon.
>>11962569
>Liked the bosses would like more slaughter style maps
You tried Queen of the Hill? Might scratch that itch.
>>11963052
It's nice to be reminded that these companies (Nightdive) and their communities (you) deserve each other. Insufferable morons from both sides.

>>11960947
>>11960503
1:43 https://files.catbox.moe/vfnnf6.lmp

>>11962461
>is aftershock worth getting?
100%. Fuck, I would suck a dick for another ion fury expansion

>>11963056
Xaser, Edward and Kaiser tied me to a chair and took turns licking my balls until they got a rash, it was red, it was itchy, it was horrible. They called it Kex and Balls torture and giggled like schoolgirls
>>11963058
Right now, (You)
>>11963136
I understand your mother called your father an insufferable moron all the time, but I'd think by this point in your life you'd figure it wasn't meant as an endearment

>>11963052
When are you doing your own remasters, anon?

>>11963052
You wouldn't have this problem, if you had used source ports for years like the rest of us. Sounds more like you didn't even acknowledge the existance of these games before Nightdive remastered them, which means Nightdive made you their bitch. Another /v/ tourist. Just fuck off, you never cared about these games to begin with. You will even forget your anger when it's not trendy anymore to be contrarian about Nightdive. They are soon running out of 90s shooters anyway, so there's no point in flooding the thread with this shit.

>>11963205
do you do anything other than tell people to leave this thread?

it's only game, why you heff to be mad?

>>11963216
You make shitty posts and don't fit in.

>>11963223
gamer you don't even know who i am unless i post screenshots/clips of me dying retardedly. you all seemed to enjoy my discussion talking about quake and what the doomguy eats for DDDDIIIINNNNNNNNNEEEERRRRRR in hell and other stuff. i'm mostly here for recommendations on custom levels to play, i've been building a big stack after i finish ep 4, doom 2, tnt, and plutonia

you do fuck all to contribute to the discussion but flame people you disagree with. get some anger management meds or smoke some weed or something man

>>11963228
>gamer you don't even know who i am unless i post screenshots/clips of me dying retardedly. you all seemed to enjoy my discussion talking about quake and what the doomguy eats for DDDDIIIINNNNNNNNNEEEERRRRRR in hell and other stuff. i'm mostly here for recommendations on custom levels to play, i've been building a big stack after i finish ep 4, doom 2, tnt, and plutonia
>you do fuck all to contribute to the discussion but flame people you disagree with. get some anger management meds or smoke some weed or something man

>>11963228
At this point I recognize your shitass typing pattern, so yes, I know who you are without your awful screenshots. You fool no one and I think you should go back to/S4S/.

>>11963205
Just don't acknowledge that retard. Let him quickly lose attention and go back to /v/

>>11963286
what is /S4S/ i'm pretty sure that's some kind of lumber

do you mean [s4s], newfig?

you sound like someone who got banned from doomworld so you just shit up this general with your negativity instead. i've been posting in this thread for months before i got in your crosshairs over the past few days

how about you post some clips of what you've been playing if you're so awesome

>>11963303
omg a gamer word i'm fallin out of my chair SO FUNNY haha

i'll fuck off to >>>/s4s/ when you fuck off to >>>/pol/

s-so new challenge guys?

Has anyone ported Quake 1 episode 1-4 maps to Doom? If I wasn't this lazy myself, this would be a fun project.

>>11963454
I only know of Dimension of the Boomed.

>>11963306
I have something for next thread

>>11963454
how you gonna play quake without rocket jumping

>>11963482
Looking forward to it, Anon.

Been playing picrel the last couple of evenings. I could have sworn I played it years ago when it first released but I wasn't sure. Was giving me major deja vu, either I've played it before or it reminds me a bit of The Ultimate Doom II, just better IMO.

Either way this is a fucking fantastic map set to be desu.

>>11963029
Is there anything else about the map or where you might've gotten it from that you can recall? Maybe another Anon on here can help identify it.
Like do you remember what the opening room looked like, any specific map geometry/landmarks, maybe even the what music was playing?

>>11963482
Hopefully not in the likes of the current quasi-speedmap, minutes of /vr/ series had more elaborate maps

>>11963545
I just remember it was the swamp tileset, and it did something cool using teleporters I think to simulate multiple floors of a tower, the top floor was a large square room with stained glass windows on each wall and outside were large drops down to the swamp below
it was like 20 years ago so I don't think I'll ever remember anything else, but it was neat and comfy

>>11963557
Did you fight Menilkir in that final room? It sounds like the final room of "Hub of Pain" by Colin Caird: It's also a large square room lined with stained glass windows that lead to a long drop to the swamp below.
The only real hangup is that "Hub of Pain" is a multi-level hub and the last level doesn't exactly simulate climbing a tower.

>>11963543
>The Ultimate Doom II
tl;dr?

>>11963543
I thought each and every guest contribution from Irkalla turned out to be better than that of lead's, but in comparisson his much older solo project went surprisingly fairly damn decent. Still, I was not a big fan of later hellish third, abrupt shift gameplay-wise as if it was stitched from another project.
Got it from wadsup?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx4O0OmaFNg

outlaws trailer. I only ever played the demo of this and it looked (and played) dated as fuck even at the time.

>>11963683
That got posted earlier >>11961239
We were also talking about the player seemingly purposefully missing all their shots.

>>11963694
Reading the comments this is probably because of marketing purposes. Can't show people dying in your trailer, for whatever reason.

>>11963683
What is it with atari remaking F-list retro games?

>>11963205
>>11963290
You people are fucking retarded.
I've had the games since roughly 2001 and I've only ever used the original executables or source ports, that's not the point at all.

The point is that I also owned them digitally before the Kex ports, so I retroactively got assigned a license for the Kex ports.
I didn't want to get the Kex ports, but they were given to me as a "free kindness" so now I show up on Nightdive's sales figures.
This also means that if e.g. my nephew wants to play these games and he makes a Steam/ GOG account to buy them, he also gets the Nightdive port, even if I recommend ditching it in favor of source ports.
In the second scenario, my nephew pays Nightdive and also increases their sales figures.
I paid them diddly squat but they turned me into a billboard for their company, just like they will with anyone that has ever owned or will ever own any of these games.
If you can't see the issue, you are fucking retarded.

I can't stand Doomerboards because every single one of their links is hidden behind some adware.

>>11963706
It could also be because the enemy death sprites aren't up-ressed yet. I haven't checked but apparently when the bottle gets shot you can see it snap to the lower res sprite.

>>11963713
Cheap labor, easy bucks. Price's been already decided, yet a passionate modder could've done it not only better but for free. SteamDB says it's 30 dollars for pre-alpha state teaser.

Went through Darkness Falls, Insanity's Edge, and now on Winter's Fury. Man you can really see the improvement between all 3.
>Darkness Falls
>so many encounters you needed to fall back through the door you entered just because no room to fight multiple barons of hell in
>there was some normal fights that were fine but far too many - I need to cheese this with doorway exploits so I don't take damage at all
>3 cyber demon fights in with no plasma weapons
>used Eraser weapons for it cause I saw it had no weapon edits - felt mostly balanced aside from being able to cheese Revenants a bit more easily
>have to constantly use my flashlight mod due to poor lighting
>doesn't inform me that I need to have jump/free look enabled
>too many barons and even though it was only 3 maps long I felt it went on too long

>Insanity's Edge
>Ok I really should not have used Doom Incarnate's Bloodrayne for this
>completely trivialized everything - that 24 round shotgun with a scope is so GOOD
>breath of fresh air though after not getting a plasma weapon till the end of Darkness Falls
>fights were definitely better tho - more room to maneuver and better monster placement
>I ended up using Bloodrayne's night vision for most of the mod due to poor lighting
>I didn't get a plasma till near the end of map 1.
>the platforming sections near the end of map 1 over the insta kill lava was aids

>Winter's Fury
>story isn't full of typos and bad english - prior 2 wads both had major issues with both
>better paced shorter levels with smaller monster counts than prior games (around 150-170 on the non boss maps)
>takes most of your ammo, armor, health between each level for balancing
>still get a sense of progression - get a plasma way sooner than prior 2 mods and enemies I need it for at the same time
>better boss fights so far
>only one story section where the lighting was an issue (pic related) but not enough to warrant flashlight mod usage
>no mods installed at all this time

>>11963607
Bigger, more elaborate takes on the vanilla Doom 2 maps + a machine gun zombie that acts as a weaker chaingunner. It's pretty fun.

>>11963683
Funny thing that the player in that trailer is unable to hit any enemies. Is this because they want to avoid age ratings or what? Or just because...

>>11963770
>>only one story section where the lighting was an issue (pic related) but not enough to warrant flashlight mod usage
I've gotten to the point of just leaving one on autoload, 99% of the time it goes unused but occasionally I just run up against somebody deciding that you need to strain the fuck out of your eyes stumbling around in the dark for half an hour, and at that point I don't care if I'm disrespecting the map or mapper by playing it "wrong".

>>11963897
That is actually what I do most of the time. Too many maps are just unplayable without it.

>>11963706
>this is probably because of marketing purposes. Can't show people dying in your trailer, for whatever reason.
Serious? Top shelf gay if true.

>>11960732
Did you actually submit a demo for the Wolfenstein challenge? I remember nobody bothered to beat the example time before the thread died.

>>11961291
I didn't know woof could do that yet. I wonder if it will eventually be comparable to dsda for TAS stuff.

>>11961390
Sincerely, the map stood out to me for that reason. It feels like most mappers are averse to placing cyberdemons without cells to quickly dispatch them. Nice demo.

>>11963713
F-tier FPS from 90s is like B-tier FPS in 2025.

>>11963713
>What is it with atari remaking F-list retro games?
Nu-Atari needs to make the most out of Nightdive's acquisition, so expect more of a conveyer moving forward.
>>11963706
Seconding >>11963748. I'm more likely to believe they avoid something literally bechause it's not ready for presentation.

Man I had no idea how good DSDA's performance was until I tried running Eviternity II in gzdoom. But I also miss the openAL surround sound a lot.

>>11963963
>nobody bothered
At least three guys beaten par 0:33. I personally don't fuss with recordings, so only a cap of tally screen from me. TBPH, I think sweat-inducing grade of speedrunning advertised here is freaking lame, but I can understand that people won't settle for less. After all, even official releases have inherited the stat panels as default setting, and those are supposed to cater to absolute newbies.

>>11963713
>>11963996
This Atari is something like the seventh different company wearing the Atari brand as a outfit.

>>11964009
>openAL
Woof and Nugget has it, along with doppler and air absorption effects

>>11960975
Imagine Doomguy and the revenant punching in and out every day like that coyote cartoon when it's going after sheep instead of the roadrunner

>>11964009
The reason I switched from gzdoom was literally the sound issues in evi2 MAP32

>>11964032
Newest ACME invention
https://warosu.org/vr/thread/3160032#p3163778

>>11964018
Yes, exactly.

>>11964032
>Mornin', Sam.
>Mornin', Ralph.

>>11964021
I didn't find Nugget to have much better performance than gzdoom, but the transparency on Spectres looks perfect on high resolutions.
>>11964043
Technically it was Evi1's final chapter, the heaven levels. Brought me down to 40 fps immediately.

>>11959901 (OP)
Playing odamex deathmatch rn on 209.250.252.12:10777
Someone interested?

>>11964074
>transparency on Spectres looks perfect on high resolutions
Yep, newest "refracted" looks especially nice. None of GZDoom modes are adequate and it's one of my very old pet peeves which can't be substituted by mods.

>>11963735
If you are seeing an issue with everyone getting the remaster for free of charge, you are the one who's retarded, buddy.

Why the fuck would giving money to Nightdive be any worse than giving money to Microsoft or Bethesda. Original id didn't get money from your and your nephew's pre-remaster Steam/GoG purchases either. If you would be anti-corpo guy that would be understandable, but you are trend contrarian straight out from /v/. Ready to support all big corporations, but not the ones that aren't trendy with the /v/ boys. It's sickening crap that you see all over 4chan. All megacorpo shit = good, but gotta resist the smaller stuff with cult following, because you need to larp some villain. Grow the fuck up.

And yes, you don't actually play these or at least their mods, so this why you seem like a tourist. Q2 modding scene was 99,99% dead before the release of remaster. I like Q2 mods, and I need the remaster to play the newest ones, so I see it as a big fucking positive thing that I didn't need to pay for the remaster to play the mods. If you actually played Q2 mods too, you wouldn't complain.

And yes, I don't think Nightdive is perfect. They have done stupid shit and some bad remasters. But acting like they are the source of all evil is just retarded faggotry. If Nightdive would have remastered Kingpin, it wouldn't be that unplayable bug-ridden piece of shit. Yet I don't see anyone of you trend faggots complaining about that.

@11962176
>russia out of nowhere
for what purpose???

>>11964168
Don't know, wouldn't wish to know. Get into the replies tree so you'd be automatically hidden, save me the manual clicking.

>>11963305
>Getting butthurt over gamer culture
Back to doomworld with you

>single maps that have 900+ enemies
>"megawads" that after the first three maps become a slog
>"only works on X/with X/using X"
>slopfests and slaughtershit
>map gives you ssg after 1 second

>>11964216
I actually love single maps that take me the whole day to play. AV's Misri Halek and Eviternity's map32 for instance.

>>11964223
>i have nothing to do in my life and i like to waste my time with long play sessions and enjoy very little of it

>>11964237
>and enjoy very little of it
That's where you're wrong.

>>11964223
Same here, Anagnorisis is particularly great.

>>11960858
did you use all your lively luck in that cyber & imps infighting anon?

>>11964265
>"Fuck GZDoom players", the map.
>MAP26, too.

>>11964237
>long play sessions
Did you know that you can save and quit at any time, so that your play sessions don't become overlong?

>>11964275
Those weren’t bad, map02 of Doom 2 In City Only ran way worse than both.

>11964237
Anon projecting so hard, Microsoft's desperately after him to advance Powerpoint presentation development.

>>11964265
I just don't understand how someone can be this good at making maps, yet not making them at all.

>>11964216
Unfortunately some people playing doom have had their taste attenuated to the slop ribbiks and co produce.

>>11964273
I found running around the cyberdemon like that caused more infighting than just leaving.

>>11964216
>>11964313
You know what, you've made me see the light, tell me which wads are good so I can play them instead.

>>11964306
It took a lot of time and effort
https://doom.ukiro.com/2019/03/13/design-notes-on-eviternity-map32-anagnorisis/

>>11964216
How to tell me you are shit at Doom without telling me you are shit at Doom.

>>11964340
Thanks for the link. It's obvious it's a shitload of hard work, this map alone has enough set pieces for a full megawad, and making it a single huge map that plays so smooth is just on another level.

>>11962461
What a fucking prude of an artist that made this and didn't give us any skintight cameltoe.

>>11964335
Nta, but I've just finished through a couple of maps made by a fella named Cary Maucere, and they're pretty good. Allegedly those were made back in '98 and there were once a dozen of them, but only a couple made it to idgames through motivation of passing good-willers. Much of the old stuff await their last visit to the nether on some old dusty hard drives just like this, many more have already passed the irreversible.

>>11964340
lol

>>11964361
Pretty gay that she has that obvious swimsuit outfit design meant to show off her thighs and they cover those up too.

>>11961291
TAS Tyson 3:48 https://files.catbox.moe/t8tn6e.lmp

>>11964391
>noooo no losey your 30 minutes of progress waaaaa you might have to restart waaaa
People play games like Ancient Domains of Mystery where you gamble with days of play time without batting an eye. How did DOOM players get like this?

>>11964412
Do they play those days of time in one session though?

>>11964340
Absolutely rectally buttblasted.

>>11964287
But Anon, saving mid-map is for low-test troon basedboys. Real hardcore Doomers play through an entire maps for hours at a time without even so much as THINKING about saving.

This thread's challenge got me pretty tired of doom, time for some baton action

>>11964361
On this topic, all these cyborg killers always felt like bargain bin Blood cultists to me, somehow indeeply disappointing. It makes think now whether the devs considered to make them into a personal army of fembots for the antagonist at any point. Why wouldn't they? MC is already a chick and it would've played nicely into the kooky humor the build games are known for if old doc had some silly complexes to act from. World building is too sterile and boring which affects all the characters. Army of men in cloaks with grandeur plans for world domination? Nothing could be more pathetic than this.

>>11964495
Stick with the prod. Prod with the prod.

>>11964412
ADOM is turn-based which is a huge difference. You have an infinite amount of time to assess your situation when you enter a room with out-of-depth monsters in ADOM, meanwhile in Doom when you open a closet of arch-viles sometimes acting merely a second later means game over.

>>11961495
>can't be ported to mobile
what a trash fire

>>11962184
Deep down, every nerd is a suppressed macho. Topic title is also a poor reference to Johnny Bravo.

>>11963996
>>11964018
>Nu-Atari needs to make the most out of Nightdive's acquisition
they guy that financed nightdive bought atari, nothing changed

>>11964495
I liked the ship sabotage part, not so much the shipyard itself. Feels like it's the best to pass it quickly rather than explore, too much open space.

It's time for Wednesday Night Wipeout!
Come play some SRB2Kart!
WE ARE STILL ON NEPTUNE 2.4.3!

How to join (The short and easy way):
Download the All-in-one repack: https://mega.nz/file/JrsETLaJ#Ny7E1Uu7ftp-2Yojpdj04Rc5xucKgV1V6H2DPboPzLA
Extract it to its own folder (NOT the desktop or program files)
Run "SRB2Kart-Neptune (Connect to vrkart).bat" and wait for any missing files to download in-game
DO NOT run "srb2kart.exe" and expect to be able to join the server.
If you don't have a 64-bit machine/OS for whatever reason: Copy the contents of the 32-bit folder into the main folder

How to join (The longer and harder way):
Download version 1.6 of the game: https://github.com/STJr/Kart-Public/releases/download/v1.6/srb2kart-v16-Installer.exe
Get the custom client we use: https://codeberg.org/NepDisk/srb2k-neptune/releases/tag/Neptune2.4.3
Get the mods either automatically in-game or at: https://macgu.fun/repo/srb2kart/
Connect to macgu.fun (either use connect in console or "specify ipv4 address" under Multiplayer)

>I HAVE TO BITCH FAST AND TEXT CHAT TOO SLOW
We also have a Mumble server!
Address: 51.161.34.159
Port: default
Password: endoom

>I heard this game supports proximity chat, are we using that?
No.

Pro tips: https://pastebin.com/YV6biqxq
(This is out of date and written for a different server, but it still has a lot of useful information.)

Recent Changes:
Added the cast of Mario Kart 64, and a matching Waluigi

>>11963746
Some guys are considerable to sterilize links with [code] markup, others are unaware/careless. I just disable Javascript when I go to proboards forums.

>>11963746
Some guys are considerate to sterilize links with [code] markup, others are unaware/careless. I just disable Javascript when I go to proboards forums.

>>11964770
ublock always blocks the redirect, and I don't trust 40oz to whitelist it

>>11964772
There is an administration account he regularly posts the news from, which once was Kontra Kommando's until he passed the founder's reins. Either it's some monetization setting left on, or it's global for all boards, but I remember 40 saying he had no idea where from this viglink junk originates. Doesn't sound any lucrative either.

>>11964793
Found this
>https://web.archive.org/web/20150813231348/https://finance.yahoo.com/news/proboards-partners-viglink-create-monetization-165751254.html
>ProBoards allows users to apply affiliate marketing practices to monetize their communities via a partnership with VigLink announced January 2014. This partnership allows any ProBoards forum managers or creators to generate revenue from traffic with VigLink Insert.
Maybe take it up with him

>>11963963
I wasn't hating the map, I just remembered the "bovine-adjacents" post because its funny, though easy maps with -fast is quintessential coom challenge material
>>11964014
He meant no one bothered to beat the example demo's time of 31.xx, not the par time
>I think sweat-inducing grade of speedrunning advertised here is freaking lame
Which maps? I usually do them while drinking beer

>>11961084
This is the first time I've noticed that Hitler had Dumbo ears

>>11964408
kek

Is it possible to mod Build games in a way that replaces player sprites and sounds?

>>11965007
Easily.

>>11963136
yeah that makes sense if you want 100 percent completion. that makes sense. instead of having to save exit see a percentage then load again. honest i downloaded a new version of eduke cause red nukem wasnt loading grp files correctly idk what happened it always worked before. anyways. i remembered it could play ion fury and blazed through it but yeah the way it comes packaged is better than eduke. there was several glitches not present in the EXE file that comes packaged with the game

I feel that I will need help for some suggestions for this guy files.catbox.moe/xppali.png

He is going to be a playable character my absurdism mod, and (apart of being done the melee weapon) I don't know what to for the other weapon types (all but bfg), if anyone here has any ideas, just spew it out, please.

And yes, I posted picrel on purpose

>>11965027 (me)
Here's a video of the melee attack
https://files.catbox.moe/fvrqll.mp4

>>11964720
early ggs

>>11964720
GGs

>>11961701
>toilet flushes

>>11961739
hey man, i did it

i'm up to e4m4 on -fast

i just needed to play like a bitch and get through the first room of shotgun guys and imps without getting hit then the rest of the level was not too hard

e2m2 was nuts. i ran out of ammo and had to fight the lost soul room with nothing but a chainsaw lol

>>11964509
ROBOBIMBOS

>>11965287
I think I'm on mission 5 and I now feel it's a race
Is the second one - with tons of cacos in main room and cyberdemon at the end? That one is all about getting secrets

I ended up restarting cause I somehow forgot to grab the very first data pad on Map 1 but I quickly got back up to where I was and beat Winter's Fury. Pretty good. Boss fights were fun too. Lots of them which I like. Basic story but good presentation. I get why this is a favorite and so highly recommended.

>>11964509
>kooky humor the build games are known for
An overwhelmingly large majority of that comes directly from the main characters themselves, disabling that character chatter really sets a different tone. Barring some outliers like the farting sumo or maybe the pig cops, all the enemies are treated somewhat seriously.
The above does not apply to Redneck Rampage: The most fun you can have in that game comes after installing the cuss pack, though it's also not as well regarded or known as the other three.
>World building is too sterile and boring which affects all the characters. Army of men in cloaks with grandeur plans for world domination?
Yeah, it's not that deep, but when compared to an alien invasion, an army of evil ninjas, and a demon cult it's fairly consistent.

Been looking for maps to play with Azuryte, because I like listening to the Manhunt ambient tracks. You guys got any sorta Duke-ish maps to suggest?
Some I've tried:
>Born Again (short, recreates the first level of Manhunt 1)
>Grime
>TV1998
>Urban Crusade
>a bunch of maps by Memfis

>>11959914
the daughter is one of the cry of fear monsters, right?

do you guys ever skip maps?
i'm playing a wad that i'm enjoying but i've come to one that i legitimately just cannot fucking beat, and i don't want to spend 3 or 4 hours just quickloading in it.

>>11965440
I think it might be the L4D Witch

>>11965458
I will noclip/god past extremely annoying bits - like platforming across traps/enemies but the jumping is not designed for it at all.

>>11963052
Who hurt (you)?

>>11965375
DN3D is packed with lowbrow comedy, from the aliens sitting on toilets/taking dumps on the ground to the gaudy environments themselves. Duke's quips reaffirm that.

>>11964120
>Why the fuck would giving money to Nightdive be any worse than giving money to Microsoft or Bethesda.

Because the $20 I gave Bethesda 10 to 15 years ago barely makes an impact, it's not enough to cover daily toilet paper expenses. Bethesda and Microsoft don't need Doom or Heretic to be massive corporations, they don't care about the IP at all and would've been just fine with keeping the original versions running in Dosbox until the end of time.

Now I got autists with highly inflated egos literally changing and breaking the games in substantial ways, getting paid for it, becoming more succesful by giving out their shitty products just to be able to claim better outreach, all while being praised by retards like you, turning them into the defacto authority over how things should be.

Nightdive doesn't care about the $15 bucks either, they probably negociate deals with the IP holders to get paid for porting the games, not in royalties so that's why they give them out for free and abandon every project after 1 month. All of it by forcing some poor game to run in Kux and re-using cut content that they didn't make or fan content that they did make for free but never released.

Bethesda or Atari or whatever barely make a profit out of this but they don't care either because it's still more lucrative for them to let Nightdive shit all over a game instead of letting it rot.

And Quake 2 would've had mods if anyone bothered with source ports for it, IIRC Yamagi was the only one actively used or supported.

>>11965458
I wonder how many people play AUGER;ZENITH without skipping MAP12.

>https://framebuffer.io/project/quake
Interesting stuff for those who are emulating old hardware. I would still say that I was playing Quake at 640x400 (faster than 640x480) on Pentium 166 and that it was near 30 fps, not below 20. Of course it's very hard to remember exactly.

>>11965635
How much Nightdives spend on toilet paper daily

>>11965384
Doom 2 re-build-t.

>>11965741
this makes me wonder: how difficult would it be to recreate duke3d's maps in gzdoom?

>>11965798
It's been done to various extents, Doom Vacation, parts of Bloom, some of Mark's maps.

>>11965612
>DN3D is packed with lowbrow comedy, from the aliens sitting on toilets/taking dumps on the ground to the gaudy environments themselves
This is mostly with its fourth episode, feeling particularly silly and goofy compared to the other three - especially with that Randy Pitchford level opener. Alien World Order only really gets like that with its first level.
Shadow Warrior will also have occasional fun level details like Leap’s place and other easter eggs, but like Duke its similarly a small fraction of its gametime. Even Redneck Rampage has an occasional strange mood when you disable the music.

>>11964640
>nothing changed
One thing did change for both Nightdive and Digital Eclipse after they were bought by nu-Atari: game pricing. All their releases post-acquisition went up in cost.
>>11965013
>yeah that makes sense if you want 100 percent completion. that makes sense. instead of having to save exit see a percentage then load again.
And also to encourage exploration just a bit.
>there was several glitches not present in the EXE file that comes packaged with the game
Well, that's to be expected when you experiment like that. I just recall that Ion Fury packaged with specific version of EDuke for a reason.

>>11964495
Started playing through the recent GMDX_AE too

>>11963454
Requiem's secret MAP31, Doorway To Quake, is a loving recreation of Quake's E1M6, Gate To Cthton. I believe it was partially motivated by someone telling Iikka Keränen that such a level could not be made in Doom 2, but I don't remember where I got that from, so it could be me mistaking it with something else.

Gate To Chthon is a good level, one of those maps which make me really appreciate American McGee as a mapper, along with The Crusher and Hell Beneath.
Hell Beneath in particular is a REALLY rock solid match for Romero's Perfect Hatred, they pair so goddamn well, E4M1 is small, tense, and really starves you, then E4M2 starts you in the frying pan and hurriedly tips you into the fire. The last level was so stringent it doesn't particularly help to carry over stuff, you're pretty likely to be worse off than if you pistol started.

>>11963713
Atari (actually Infogrames who bought Atari's remains to wear as a disguise), want to make money, but they don't want to take too much risk with investment, so they figure they'll do something pretty low risk by instead getting a small studio to dust off and port an old game which has a reputation and cult following.
That's a cheap venture, game is already made and requires little to no new asset work (and certainly not large or expensive kinds when it actually does), and with a bit of promotion through YouTubers and other social media avenues, the project will make some profit. Not humongous profits, but probably at least decent revenue for the money spent.

Not inherently the worst thing ever, particularly as these aren't sold for a full $60 either, and having modern compat versions can be appreciated (look at how fucking dire it was for ROTT and its neglected sourceports).
However, when you look at Nightdive in particular, they are known to not finish their jobs properly and they don't think it's particularly necessary to do either (it was them who declined working further on Blood, contrary to myth), and occasionally they take creative liberties which not everyone appreciates.

>>11965893
This. Duke isn't THAT wacky most of the time. Little eastereggs and jokes are just some bonuses here and there, and even when The Birth cranked it up, it still played it mostly straight.

>>11966042
>and occasionally they take creative liberties which not everyone appreciates
It's funny watching gameplay mod devs go "I respect Xaser but what the fuck was he thinking?" about some of the Hexen shit.

>>11966027
I tested out Dimension of the Boomed and while it looks cool, maps are whatever..
>https://counterstrike.fandom.com/wiki/Iikka_Ker%C3%A4nen
This is also so cool. I doubt this would happen these days because everything is outsourced by default (hiring a foreign guy isn't outsourcing per se, that's another thing).

>>11964464
To be fair, that was pretty funny.

How do you respond to people that goad you for playing Gzdoom? I enjoy many different playstyles and using a few lightweight mods is one of them.
I actually never respond, but sometimes it really makes you wonder if these people are seriously this dumb

>>11966048
A lot of this comes from Romero hiring a bunch of big time modders for Dai-Katana, then they finally can't take it anymore and leave to start their own studio, and after that fizzles, they go looking for work elsewhere.

Then you have Dario Casali, who got hired by Gaben for his work on Final Doom and some Quake maps he published afterwards.

>>11966060
Tim Willits was hired like that too... but he ended up killing id Software lmao

>>11966059
tell alexei he's just jealous his 32bit winxp machine can't run gzdoom

>>11966061
Allegedly most of "his" stuff was really him taking credit for his sister's work.

Should I just give up on running .wads in complevel 2/3 and default to Boom?
Tired of maps breaking midway through because format wasn't specified clearly.

I can't beat D'Sparil in Black Plague. That bitch won't stop teleporting around and bringing Disciples into the arena.

>>11966092
You could just type TNT09 as a cheat and then immediately test the inoperational triggers

>>11966114
I'm also thinking I might have gone overboard with complevel autism when I don't even record demos.
Afaik the biggest noticeable gameplay change complevel 9 does is monsters falling off ledges

>>11966118
Also different RNG. If unlucky, you're a little more susceptible to not killing things in a single berserk punch. Bug with reloading shells into double shottie when you have none too.

>>11966072
There's somewhat good evidence for it, and given Tim Wallets's propensity to lie, I can easily imagine him doing it too.

>>11966118
tbf monsters falling off edges is already annoying enough in WADs that were made for boom
also, vanilla WADs, especially older ones, occasionally use ghost monsters. that's how I justify my complevel autism anyway.

>>11964464
Why do I feel like I recognize who posted that comment?

>>11966176
There's way too many retards around to pinpoint who exactly called Anagnorisis a slaughter.

>>11966180
I can only presume that you got coal that xmas.

>>11966181
Some people will call Final Doom slaughter as well.

When's that goddamn GZDoom netplay update. I've seen people say that something's been pushed to in-dev but that was months ago

>>11966118
If you're not enjoying it then yeah, don't let it take over shit, at best you're just playing how somebody else wants because they think it's the one way to have fun.

>>11966210
Mt. Pain is slaughter if u think about it

>>11966042
>Not inherently the worst thing ever, particularly as these aren't sold for a full $60 either
Well, Nightdive already went from $20 to $30 under nu-Atari. Digital Eclipse went to $35 (with a couple of exceptions published by Konami that cost even more). So them reached $60 might be just a matter of time when they start to think they can get away with it.
>(it was them who declined working further on Blood, contrary to myth)
We need to get a link to source, so that there won't be any questions about it. I only recall it was a message from Nightdive's dev from somewhere.
>>11966045
>It's funny watching gameplay mod devs go "I respect Xaser but what the fuck was he thinking?" about some of the Hexen shit.
For example?

>>11966230
>For example?
Taking the homing effect away from Bloodscourge because he thinks it's a better weapon for dealing with crowds of weak monsters.

>>11966181
True, though it does have the very specific smell of a bunch of anons who complain about that shit, anons who are more than dumb enough to go on all kinds of other sites and post like that.

>>11966236
That's why I said that, it sounds like that one fucking moron who always cries about slaughter.

>>11966235
I meant the example of gameplay mod devs shittalking.

>>11964464
as someone who doesn't like slaughter maps much, we don't claim him

>>11966180
kek

>>11966282
Nta, but Lippeth (Tempered Arms) was not really a fan of that change IIRC. Not really shittalking though.

>>11966296
we do

>>11966092
This is usually easy to figure out? Just check out the wiki or txt that comes with the wad

>>11966236
>>11966250
I hate slaughtershit a lot more like I'm fucking tired of every second community megawad ending with slaughter maps yet Anagnorisis is 11/10 for me. Like, how can you even call a 1-2 hours map with what, 1000 enemies, i.e. 1-2 enemies per damn minute, a slaughter?
Eviternity on itself was meh.

>>11966092
Default to whatever the newest complevel is on your port, 21 I'm assuming. Only fiddle with complevels if you are demo recording. There are a teeny tiny amount of maps that break if you run them on a newer complevel than they were designed, like that one sunlust map that spits the BFG, and that one TNT level with the stairbuilder. If you aren't playing those maps then STFU and don't worry about it

>>11966426
>how can you even call a 1-2 hours map with what, 1000 enemies, i.e. 1-2 enemies per damn minute, a slaughter?
The usual, having a poor grasp on what slaughter actually is while still being angry at it existing.

>>11966426
>>11966463
>1-2 enemies
Whoops it's actually 10-20, but it's still not much.

>>11966426
>>11966473
That ratio of dripfeeding sounds good actually.

>>11961681
Rise of The Triad crossover.
My dad is Todd Howard, it's canon.

>>11966529
If you haven't played it yet and okay with lengthy maps, I really can't recommend it enough.
You can even skip the rest of Eviternity, the map forcefully pistol-starts you anyway.

>>11966426
Some anon called Eviternity the kind of wad dudes who are really into prog metal would be into and I can't think of it any other way now

>>11966529
it's not slaughter at all, it's just really long

>>11966601
What do you mean?

>>11966565
Looks very swanky from that screenshot alone. Does it use any real custom DeHacked stuff, or could I run it with maybe some Final Doomer set or something?

>>11966628
By the sound of it, he might be talking about my cock after having this map described to me.
I like Drake O'Brien's and Lainos's maps, so lengthy adventures with a lot of eye candy is just my thing.

>Temple of the Lizard Men 1 Gold Remake
I never played the original but it seems like he kinda just loosely drew over the original. Monster numbers and map design is far more modern (usually around a hundred enemies on every map outside of boss maps) than Temple of the Lizard Men 2 which has very few enemies (less than 50) and the maps are just very basic.

https://onemandoom.blogspot.com/2013/10/temple-of-lizardmen-lmtemplewad.html

Yeah the original had guns and this new version you are a lizard man with magic weapons from heretic/hexen. It's a lot darker too. Seems like he bought in enemies from the later TotLM games too + bosses.

What did Romero mean when he placed an imp here which a) you can't shoot until you go down the lift and b) rakes you as you go down the lift.
This is not my screen so inb4 'muh crosshair'

>>11966758
>you are a lizard man with magic weapons from heretic/hexen
Why can't more mods have a premise this cool?

>>11966760
He made you his bitch. That's our John.

>>11966303
I see. I'm yet to see Heretic gameplay changes proper (will try to go through Faith Renewed with no-enhancements and see how it goes), but I can say that class changes in Hexen were mostly pointless. The only one that kind of makes sense is Frost Shards going through frozen enemies.
Skipped playing enhanced maps in Heretic, but, again, by itself it seemed like a waste of time where the time could've instead went towards things like getting OST right and so on.

>>11966874
life made romero a bitch

>>11966335
I'm talking specifically about closer to vanilla limit removing .wads that don't specify it, I got fooled too many times by triggers that only work in cl9 and above in otherwise vanilla maps

>>11966760
>This is not my screen
Yes it is.

>>11966847
>>11966881
Romero is the type of guy that thinks everyone at his company getting laid off is cool because they're getting both laid and getting off

>>11966889
oh shit, I'm sorry.

>>11966896
lel

>>11966847
Do you think he lurks here or even posts? Sometimes I'm not sure...

>>11966940
i'm 99% sure he did

>>11966940
Probably.
He definitely hasn't been posting on Twitter recently.
Hope his company has some prospects to save the game and all. Hope the game is good too.

>>11965653
It's that the Illya map?

>>11967003
Map12 is the drug trip level.

>>11967008
I don't think I'd skip that, I loved it. But I've only played A;Z once.

>>11967014
I dig it too, and that Illya map goes quickly.
It's weird how much the mapset resonates with me, I think it's one of my most replayed sets from the last several years.

>>11966760
The truth is that Romero sucks at level design. His maps are largely shit outside of a small handful and he has trouble adhering to his own dogmas, such as "if the player can see an area, they should be able to reach it" -- a rule he breaks in the very first fucking level of the game (see: the outdoor area near green armor).

He probably thought, "what if I like, put an Imp down there, and the player can't see it... that'll surprise them, haha...", and that was the full extent of his dude weed-tier thought process. He didn't consider that it would just become an annoyance on repeat playthroughs, because his levels are designed around visual flair instead of good gameplay. Unfortunately, the gimmicks were only fun the first time, and as a result the majority of his levels have aged like cum.

>>11967035
I'm definitely going to play it with Term's new mod once that's out.

>>11965108
Pls, can someone say what I have to do, or change with the first weapon

>>11966896
lmao
>>11966954
Wasn't it some generic live service fluff?>>11967054
True

>>11967062
>Pls, can someone say what I have to do, or change with the first weapon
The sounds are fun at least. He's also attacking pretty fast, what are you planning for the chainsaw?

>>11967078
I don't...Wait, do you know the replacement of the bfg from nuts 3?, I will use the sprites and turn it into a "Microwaver", that hurts the monsters one (or two) tics per sec until they melt in green

I love Doom.

I think Halo is a pretty cool guy.

Quake 2 is my jam

My love for this game is Unreal.

>>11967248
This had quite nice maps.

>>11967054
map29 of doom2 is so good that I don't care about anything you say

>>11967301
>the living end
>good
That map is so shitty that it has a bug where you can get softlocked. You're retarded.

>>11967291
let me guess, this is Flood Zone?

>>11967325
We can have a difference of opinion without resorting to name-calling, you dirty niggerfaggot

>>11967339
yes, triple kill on enforcers

>>11967248
>back to baseqics
HUH

>>11967354
Don't act like a woman

>>11967410
How appropriate. You fight like a cow.

>>11967415
Are you still doing that hand thing Shaye?

>>11967358
Looks so nice with that contrast between dark and light, what are you playing on?

>>11967248
I really should give my map from that a do-over. Too many small spaces with lots of enemies packed in.
Ending was mega ass.

>>11967480
Duke3d.exe on dosbox. I don't normally play that way, I just wanted a small screenshot

>>11959901 (OP)
welp that's that. Beat TFC on fast (with 1 save slot)
Great last level.

Guess it's HELL ON EARTH TIME

>>11967679
>not fast coop (alone)
didn't beat the game

>>11967683
does that double the enemies?

>>11967757
it depends on how many extra enemies the mapper added

>>11967415
They've got protective boots, shotgun shells, fortune cookies, ammo cells
Spirit armor, rocket nukes, quartz flasks, and Holodukes

Diving suits, Devastator, Super Nailguns, Porkalator
Megaspheres, Bone eel, yellow keys and Balls of Steel

>>11967779
This post is a daymaker

>>11967802
>Nice BFG

>>11967779
Uplink chips, yellow crystals, dog food, magnum pistols
Smoke bombs, rocket launchers, medikits and shield rechargers

Hivehands, Firemaces, voodoo dolls, maps to places
Nukage barrels, Light-amp Visors, Blurspheres and Paratamizers

How about one of you tranny jannies deal with the Zelda schizo that's shitting up every thread?

>>11966580
That would imply Eviternity is somewhat niche and elitist when it's the opposite. It's more like BTSX where some people find it boring because it's designed for mainstream appeal. Prog dudes would be into nu-Ribbiks and quirky challenge wads.

>>11967067
>Wasn't it some generic live service fluff?
Noone knows, to my knowledge.

>>11968168
sir this is a wendy's

>>11968292
You sound insecure.

>>11968276
One of their job listings in the past mentioned experience with live service, but I don't think anyone caught up on that.

>>11968476
that could just be a multiplayer ranking system for all you know (romero loves his deathmatch)

>>11967003
That's map04.

>>11967057
>Term's new mod
Is he making something cyberpunk-themed? I can't seem to find any info about it

>>11968631
You might be able to get some info here. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2541157007?filter=archives&sort=time

TL;DR
>Hackerman theme
>Got a Katana
>Emphasis on being cool, all weapons have a unnecessary but stylish move of some kind
>Taunting
>Kicking
>To pick up keys you hollywood hack them (as in smash your keyboard for a bit)

It does my heart good to see Term back on his bullshit again.

Where is the thread

>>11968641
bread rotted from being left out too long

>>11968639
Man, this is sweet, thanks

>>11968639
Don't forget it's got parrying with the katana.
>It does my heart good to see Term back on his bullshit again.
He's not lost a step either, dude's still as fun-focused as ever.

>>11968641
New thread.

>>11968739
>>11968739
>>11968739

>>11968343
you sound mentally ill

>>11968168
> there's now another retard complaining at people discussing retro games in vr
When will you faggots fuck off.

I told you there's always gonna be 1 or 2 autists who are gonna be triggered by something, whether thats megaman 8dbm, zelda or anything else