Remember when Logias represented the pinnacle of devil fruit power? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

After Oda introduced Haki, pretty much all logia df users became jobbers and all battles are won by whoever has the strongest Haki. This was a huge mistake.

>After Oda introduced Haki, [HEADCANON]

>>279620794 (OP)
More like remember when Smoker was relevant?

>>279620794 (OP)
If oda never introduced haki, how would you want luffy to beat smoker?

>>279620971
Leaf blowers. If Luffy beat up crocodile with blood, then Luffy can beat up Smoker with leaf blowers.

>>279620794 (OP)
Smoker is the only Logia already introduced pre-Haki who became a bit of a jobber post-Haki introduction (and whilst in his fight with Vergo it was a deliberate act to distract Vergo, his performance against Doflamingo on the other hand was genuine jobbing). Only some of the new post-Haki introduced Logias were made to job (most egregiously the Numa Numa no Mi), whilst all the other old Logias still remain top tier. And even in Caesar's case, his gas logia more so jobbed to Luffy's post-Magellan poison resistance rather than to his Haki in their initial fight.

>>279620794 (OP)
>Remember when Logias represented the pinnacle of devil fruit power
No I dropped that shit like 40 chapters in, what kind of retard would still be reading this

>>279620794 (OP)
Remember when logias had actual weaknesses?
Croc couldn't deal with water, Enel hard countered by rubber...
I want to see Akainu sinking into the ground because its melting the stone he's standing on or bursting the ship he's riding into flames whenever his power is active. I want to see Kizaru defeated by GOD ussop by trapping him in a box lined with mirrors and he just keeps reflecting off them.
Not "uhhhhh my haki ignore your power"
Return some of the physical comedy thats been replaced with just running around everywhere.

>>279620794 (OP)
I doesn't make sense for non-devilfruit, top-tiers like Rodger and Shanks to somehow no-diff pre-timeskip logias, when logias were basically seen as invincible back then.
Logias needed the nerf and hard-counter.

>>279620794 (OP)
haki was introduced after that, it was quite normal otherwise all the big enemies would be using swords and similar.
>Garp first one introduced using haki.
>It was the only one that could do damage to luffy.
Quite simple otherwise luffy would be a broken character since no one could do damage to him.
Remember when kuma removed the damage from luffy, almost killed zoro receiving same damage.

>>279621548
smoker was introduced as the garp of luffy since was kinda needed, someone that could be an ally or enemy depending on situation.
thanks to that luffy became stronger.
>After being defeated by kemurin i started to think and imagine how i could become stronger and this was what came to me.
That was when he fought rob lucy and he used for the first time gear 2.

If every fight against a logia had continued to be a rock paper scissors fight or revolved around finding a gimmick to counter their power people would have been complaining just as much if not more than they are about haki.

>>279625245
well the counter to logia was the mythical beasts type and again people will complain.
>haki removed
>comes reveal that gomu gomu no mi was a mythical type.
>people will complain of why luffy was unable to defeat logia if his fruit was stronger.
or similar stuff along raising lot of issues.

Smoker's fruit is one of the weakest Logias. Enel and Kizaru have some of the strongest.

>>279624166
Not damage, pain and fatigue. There's a difference.

>>279625460
i mean she can smoke folk but hes not that creative

>in PW3, you can knock down any character in logia mode using special attack
>in PW4, you can only wait the logia mode to run out of time before you can hit em

>>279620971
Seastone. You know, a weapon or an object like Smoker's jitte. That was what Oda implied to be all DF's counter for hundreds of chapters until he retconned Haki into existence.

>>279625755
So what, you wanted Luffy to carry a Seastone sword or something all the time?

>>279625776
Maybe some Caestus gloves? I don't know. There are thousands of ways to not introduce a Ki-like power using the pre-Haki lore.

>>279625860
I don't think that's the issue. The problem with Seastone is that it's inflexible. You'd basically be forcing Luffy to fight purely as a boxer. It doesn't suit Luffy to limit himself to a specific weapon.

Plus at that point, pretty much the entire cast would need to carry seastone weapons. Zoro would need to switch out all of his weapons, including Wado Ichimonji, with weapons embedded with seastone. Sanji would need to always have seastone grieves. Even if you hate it, armament haki basically allows Luffy to fight as he always has. An arm imbued with armament haki can stretch and skew and bounce as Luffy pleases. A seastone gauntlet can't do that.

>>279625755
>>279625860
So, just like Haki, except lamer

>>279620794 (OP)
logias had to have a weakness nothing exciting about them being undefeated just by being carried by their powers haki is a good concept the execution not so much

>>279620794 (OP)
Akainu, Kizaru, and Kuzan are all still monsters. Caesar nearly one too.
Mythical Zoan > Logia > Zoan >= Paramecia

Did anyone ever curse Oda's ballsack for abandoning his best character?

>>279625860
Seastone sandals would be perfect.

>>279628773
>haki is a good concept the execution not so much
How is the execution bad?

>>279628773
It feels as though Logia’s being immune to all normal attacks should have been an awakening effect or something. Otherwise the users have to think about changing their forms to dodge.

>>279629617
it's very vague and not consistent
>>279629647
i don't know but i thought changing the environment was always their awakening

Logias peaked in skypiea
The evolution from smoker--->crocodile---->enel
Was kino

>>279620794 (OP)
I saw you the otehr day on /tv/ and I already told you thast One Piece's fight were always shit. Haki didn't ruin any dynamics because the series never followed on what it already had established.

>>279620971
Just blow him away. It's not that hard. Smoke is only lethal inside of a burning building.

Bonney won.

>Brook vs Sommers

>>279620794 (OP)
he didn't want to give roger a devil fruit so he came up with haki

>>279632182
why can't Oda stop stealing from Bobobo?

>>279625245
The thing is, both logias that Luffy defeated pre-TS he defeated by, ultimately, punching them very hard. Oda has a specific style of writing combat, and that's what he will ultimately fall back upon. Haki, weaknesses, whatever. The finisher will always be a symbolic heavy punch.

I won.

Crocodile is Rocks daughter.

Shamrock's mommy btw.

>>279620971
Gear 3 on his belly and blow, easily one shotting Smoker.

Which One Piece women should be placed in an ENF situation?

One piece doesn't have enough cool and strong women. I want more cool and strong women

>>279633264
Young Big Mom, Stussy, Boa Hancock, and Gloriosa exist.

>>279620794 (OP)
It is the nature of Devil Fruits that became their weakness.

Devil Fruits were born from human Dreams. Haki is the power of human will, the will to make dreams into reality. They are not seperate power trees.

I'm still mad we never got Luffy vs Big Mom

>>279633583
It will still happen, anon. She will return to Elbaph soon.

>>279633600
At this rate, I don't even think Luffy will see Shanks or Blackbeard ever again. It's just him and Imu now.

>>279629579
Why bring back that uncreative distraction?

>>279633635
We're likely going to get a Blackbeard confrontation sooner rather then later (maybe even next arc). As for Shanks, well he may return at the end of the arc so that Luffy can have his reunion.

when will luffy fight kaido

Nami will give birth to Luffy's children

>>279633705
Blackbeard is killing Shanks in between Elbaf and Final War

>>279625755
Explain to me how a Devil Fruit user who punches, would utilize Seastone? Luffy can't wear Seastone gauntlets, it'll weaken him too.

>>279620794 (OP)
>Smoker
I feel like he'd kick Kid's shit in. Still fairly useless though.

The AI slop posters are asleep, we'll have a good 6 hours of no garbage posted ITT since their fat lazy hot pocketed encrusted asses don't wake up until 1:00 PM

>>279633742
Cute wife

>>279633705
My prediction:
Lodestar-Luffy Fights Blackbeard, wins from the technical side but doesn't really defeat him, Luffy ends up going to Laughtale, BB ends up being taken to Imu
Laughtale-Luffy fights Shanks before finding One Piece, he acts as the normal Final Boss.
One Piece (Final War)-BB and Imu become one being like Luffy and Nika and this is the true Final battle.

Time traveler here
>Luffy defeats Imu on Elbaf. Zoro defeats Shamrock, who returns to Elbaf at some point. Usopp defeats Dorry and Brogy. Elbaf is widely considered to be the worst One Piece arc of all time
>all five Gorosei die on the spot. The WG is quickly overrun by Revolutionary Army. The admirals cut their losses and surrender. Dragon never needed to do anything. Rampant shitposting about the Dragon and the admirals being cucks ensues
>Blackbeard kills Shanks after Elbaf. Much to /a/'s surprise, the whole fight and Shanks's death are entirely on-screen
>Luffy, Blackbeard, and Buggy all end up on Laugh Tale. Cross Guild reveals they had a Strawhat vivre card the whole time
>Luffy fights Blackbeard on Laugh Tale. Zoro fights and kills Mihawk. Crocodile sacrifices himself to save Luffy, to whom he has no relation to. Blackbeard becomes the first and only person in the series to drown to death
>Buggy takes all the credit for becoming the Pirate King
>Luffy turns himself in and is put to death in the final chapter
>an extremely old, dusty, torn book is closed by a skeleton's hand, presumably Brook's. The title "Usopp the Liar" is visible
>/a/ meltdown over the garbage ending lasts all month
There, I just saved you all like six years of spoilers. Enjoy your Rush Piece saga

>>279620794 (OP)
Logias are proof one piece peaked too early, he put all his imagination early on, then he made random shit up and retcons for the rest.

Do you think Imu was once a good/benevolent person in the past?

>>279621548
>When the writer themselves makes it up as they go along in such a unthoughtful way they can't even think of a reason for something happening after the fact.

>>279633213
S-Snake

>>279633128
>Rock C. Odile

>>279634574
No.

>>279634340
But enough about Togashi

>>279634177
Gigadrill!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0l0617FjF0

>dying of cancer
>still doing conventions
we don't deserve Yao-chan

We love and respect Jinbe on /opg/.

>>279620971
Suck Smoker-san till he's no more.

There’s a popular theory on leddit that Imu casted a domi reversi on the entire planet, which is what created the calm belt
This is how everyone knew specifically when joyboy would arrive, as the domi reversi was set for a 800 year duration
Why Gunko said the world was going to quietly disappear
And why so many characters have made references to the world turning upside down (Whitebeard, Roger, Toku etc)

>>279633873
>Smoker is still more popular than Franky
>Tashigi is more popular than Koby

>>279632423
>The finisher will always be a symbolic heavy punch.
Unironically kino.

Is chopper considered a sex symbol?

How did Oda cook so hard with Carrot's design?

>>279634199
>Crocodile sacrifices himself to save Luffy, to whom he has no relation to
Most unbelievable part

>>279635254
A symbol that anyone who finds him sexy a furry + pedo, sure.

>>279634622
Damn, I haven't kept up. That's awful.

>generic rabbit girl
>”he cooked with the design”

>>279634199
All of that sounds based though

>>279620794 (OP)
Heavily implied that Roger had no devil fruit even before haki existed in manga and that he could hear the voice of all things.
Without haki, how would Roger win fights?

>>279635318
Shut the fuck

>>279635362
>Without haki, how would Roger win fights?
By infusing his blades with the AIDS virus, may not be an instant KO but it gets them all in the end. Whitebeard, Rocks, all shall kneel before his mustached microbial might.

>>279635416
Don't be like that, it was the 70s and everyone was on the good coke and smack

>>279620794 (OP)
What happens when you stick one of his seastone clubs into the middle of his smoke arm?

https://youtu.be/LYnhN_49tpE?si=PzEPNkKcC2-y4hcZ

>>279635214
I hate that they went full DBZ in this scene.
The shitters at Toei even keep using the same DBZ sound effects from 30 years ago.

SLAVA CARROT

>>279621548
Smoker spent all his prime stopping beginner pirates from entering grand line

He willingly chooses to fight weak pirates with his power, rather than train more in grand line.

He was born to job.

>>279635391
Do Carrot enjoying her summer days lounging on a pool

>>279633180
>bone balloon
>in his belly
Is he stupid?

>>279635318
Name 5 rabbit girls that look like Carrot

>>279634291
Probably. I mean he/she somehow managed to unite the 20 kingdoms around them. And we know one of the monarchs were Vivi's ancenstor who was definitely a good person.

So either Imu managed to hide his true depravity really well and/or he just slowly became more and more corrupt with power throughout the centuries.

I personally hope its the latter.

>>279620794 (OP)

What happened to this guy ? I bet the frozen box is just a fridge for the medicine of the PH kids.

>>279635857
Can't say anything for sure, but my assumption is that Oda just felt he had too many pieces to work with if he kept Smoker and Tashigi as regular characters. So, he cut back on their appearances and focused primarily on Coby when it came to touching on the marines.

The man has a fetish for focusing on random local characters over his more established primary and secondary character cast.

>>279635857
The frozen box contains the giant straw hat. Smoker singlehandedly infiltrated Imu's domain and vault using his logia

>>279620971
Nami using her clima-tact to disperse his smoke body away forcing him into solidity

Why did Oda turn some dorky bespectacled nerd like Koby into some absolute prime Nami-face femboy?

>>279620794 (OP)
>Remember when Logias
no we are in Mythical Zoans Piece now and you will like it

>>279636185
>we are in Mythical Zoans Piece now
Hello 2021 time traveler, we are actually in Demonic Possession Piece now, DF’s are all irrelevant jobbers except for the Nika Nika fruit.

>>279635362
>Without haki, how would Roger win fights?
With hacki

>>279636105
>Nami-face
You retards must be blind, everything is "Nami-face"

>Sugar had the most annoying and bullshit Devil Fruit power that ignored all established rules, was vastly overpowered and only had one very specific weakness

>What if we gave that to Imu to?

God I hate Oda. Nothing is worse than a "I touch you, you lose" power

>>279620794 (OP)
They never were.

>>279633600
This might have been an idea that oda had, but Shanks the Movie changed a lot in the story so now it's Holy Knights™

The one piece is a discount promo code for smoothies onlyfans.

Thats exactly why oda is saving her for the end and nerfed her during whole cake.

>GODA

>>279633794
Only the outside needs to be seastone.

Imu is trans

>>279620971
Inhaling him whenever he turns into smoke would be such a straightforward Luffy way to go about it.
Logias should have a creative solution based on their DF.

>>279635313
but his human form is crearly adult so he is over 18

>>279620794 (OP)
>This was a huge mistake.
Why? How beat a Logia without Haki? All The characters would need Kairoseki weapons.

There are still dangerous Logias like the Marine Admirals and Teach.

even if they didn't have the logia invincibillity, most logia powers would still be straight up better than 90% of zoan and paramecia. and dodging with the logia abillity wasn't even completely taken away with haki, it was just nerved

>>279621548
>Smoker is the only Logia already introduced pre-Haki who became a bit of a jobber post-Haki introduction
Likely he became in Jobber because Oda already had plans for Koby and Smoker was not necessary anymore.

>>279622110
True slow readers will be rewarded for remembering this and knowing that BBs natural weakness is light and he will get a power boost by being in darkness

>>279635214
>Is that base Luffy?
>AIIIIIEEEE TASKETTE BIG MOM
Why are yonkeks so weak?

>P-Please care about the FAGmirals
No.

Why did Oda make him so handsome?

>>279636338
If it has two eyes, one nose, and one mouth arranged in an at least somewhat humanlike manner then it is a Namie-face. Simple as.

Why don't female Celestial Dragons go to beauty surgeons? They're ugly and rich.

>>279636796
He's really ugly though

Killingham got a lot of fanart...

>>279636796
Charloss: Damn. I can not join them. It seems that this group only accept Handsome people.
Summers: ......

>>279620794 (OP)
Logias didn't event exist when Smoker and Crocodile were introduced

>>279636796
Shamrock is gone and Loki isn't so pretty. Oda needs the fujo money.

If Onepiece verse consists of 1 billion people.
12 people have ever been known logia users.
that is 0.0000012 % of the population.

Armament Haki users = 0.0000127% of the population.

Logia users are essentially gods to 99.9999% of every living being and only countered by another group of people stronger than 99.999% of the population.

>>279636777
Chadmirals don't want brownoids as fans

>>279636843

Hey, Sommers is old! Young Sommers was definitely handsome

>>279636777
Irrelevantmirals agendababies not gonna like this. Quake with fear! Gurarararara!

>>279636810
Perhaps Beauty surgeons can not make Miracles.
Or be Ugly is that common for CD women that they are used to it.
Minus some rare cases that are beautiful.

>>279636886
We do not know it..
Also it would be weird that existing 10 HK that all of them look normal. Some of them will be ugly.

>>279636898
KEK

>>279636905
I wonder if Doffy's mother has Celestial blood?

Homing wife looks submissive. A well-trained slave?

No normal woman would give up her life of luxury to live with Plabs.

>>279636836
His retcon edgy head doesn't match his body

>>279633213
Nami, Robin and Hancock

Someone needs to kick Shanks in the balls.

>>279636965
The funny thing is that Killingham has fishman blood and hides in his zoan form.

>>279620794 (OP)
It was a different time, now LOLgias like Akainu and Kizaru are irrelevant fodder and the only WG characters that matter are those directly empowered by Imu... sad!

>>279636964
>I wonder if Doffy's mother has Celestial blood?

She has a tenrybuito hairstyle when Homing wants to leave Mariejoa. So she was a CD.

>>279636986
Rude. Leave my husband alone!

>>279636995
...in my fanfic

>>279636855
>Loki isn't so pretty
Meds

>>279636986
Blackbeard will, right before he kills him.

>>279636964
pretty sure she is also a CD, I don't think halfbreeds are accepted or respected

>ugly fuck goes on a 10 day diet
>turns into gigachad
There are no actually ugly Celestial Dragons, just fat ones.

>>279637013
There is, narratively speaking, no way Akainu can ever do anything EVER again other than have a meaningless sideshow fight vs. Sabo, it's over, it was over after the Imu-Gunko chapters, now you have to accept it.

goodnight /opg/

>>279637072
Cool headcanon. You should write a fanfic!

>>279634199
i don't believe you

>>279636995
>the only WG characters that matter are those directly empowered by Imu... sad!
YEAH. I cheated to defeat Joyboy

>>279636965
just make it smaller

>>279637072
>>279636995
this is simply canon.

>>279637226
...according to brownoids

>>279636468
canon.

This thread belongs to the chadmirals.

>>279637247
no CoC???

what killed the hype?

>>279637064
Imu feeds them nothing but slop to keep them weak.

How does a fishman CD even work?

GAYmi is a lesbian

>>279637473
it doesn't, sharp teeth doesn't mean fishman

Say something nice about Luffy's wife

>>279637568
I think Sweet Pea's little adventure logs are cute

>>279637529
Dykes don't fuck like this.

>>279637473
>how does a fishman devil fruit user work

>>279637568
Luffy's wife is cute and pure Nami and not some random hoe like Sweatpea

>>279637293
Okay... You win... Chadmirals reign supreme...

>>279637686
How do you know

>>279637720
>retard so triggered he not only responded to the wrong post, he also forgot he was about to samefag

How much longer until we go back to pirates (Blackbeard) in my pirate series again?

>>279637048
It depends on the parent. Perhaps Shanks and Shamrock are half-breed Celestial Dragons, and Garling kept them.

He gave Shanks a chance to return to Mary Geoise, but Shanks refused because he knows how degenerate Celestial Dragons are.

>>279637473
Katakuri and his sister Poire(the one with a Panda hat) also have that teeth and are human.

But some fans like now this character that much that created this theory about him.

>>279637733
Good old memories.

Will Joyboy be a Shanks-clone, Roger-clone, or… maybe even a Garp-clone? I’m willing he’s gonna be a Roger-clone, to further sell that Ace was the intended chosen one, but the lack of ambition harmed his chances.

>>279637991
Likely her..
Hope be wrong about it.

>>279634291
I hope they were once genuinely good and kind, and only warped with time.

>>279636372
Smoothe is slept on, and 11/10, but my fave Charlotte has to be Amande.

>>279637720
I am not guy to reply to incel
Nami will win in the end
You will keep seething and malding

>>279634291
Dofy ancestor was already Evil.. It could be the same with Imu.
For a reason he ended above the rest and continues alive centuries later.

>>279636675
I miss Atlas so fucking much

>>279620794 (OP)
Post time skip feels like just one long training arc.

>>279638025
Luffy canonically can't get a stiffy without usopp though?

>>279635169
>Sigh. It seems that Franky design change still has angry the fans. Be under a ruined character like Smoker. How sad.

>Tashigi is above Bart and Reiju and other cool characters.. How is that possible?

>>279633873
FIFTY FOUR?!??!!?!

Wait
Queen is Franky's Father?

>>279638127
I miss York

dino butt

>>279637864
Other factions barely shows up, it's strawhats piece

the onepiece is a game piece from GO,
IMU is the devil and is stuck in a game (the seventh seal) but Nika/Joyboy w/e stole a GO piece so IMU is stuck on earth like Robin williams was stuck in jumanji.

this whole thing is a result of Nika fucking with the devil

>>279622110
Crocodile's weakness was stupid. He had the ability to absorb seemingly unlimited amounts of water and when he did that it just magically disappeared. It didn't saturate him. So that being his weakness makes no sense. Why didn't he just absorb the water instead of becoming waterlogged?

>>279638195
Nami wil force Luffy to fuck her

>>279638355
Bro you're asking for logic in One Piece?
Cmon man.
Come brother, stare at tits like the rest of us.

>>279638265
Imu has RPG RPG no mi

Why doesn't Imu just make Luffy's bounty like 150 billion, so everyone on Earth hunts him down? This faggot has had 800 years, EIGHT HUNDRED, to come up with a plan to beat Nika.

>>279638440
no one wants to fight a 150 billion berry pirate

>>279638472
>no one wants to fight a 150 billion berry pirate

>defeats yonko-commander Giants with ease
>without even breaking a sweat
>it's actually a game
>doesn't even move a finger
>makes wax that can resist the strongest acid possible from one of the strongest marines, barely cares
>saves Roger's son from begging executed
>Buggy's right hand man

He's insanely strong.
Might be the strongest character so far.
Discuss.
BlackbeardWillKillImu.

>>279638572
Magellan isn't a marine

Which game is better, One Piece Ambition or One Piece Fighting Path?

>>279638572
I kneel, CHADino.

>>279638620
One Piece Dance Battle.

Dragon said the fight really begins once the HKs mobilize.

I think Dragon waited for the Holy Knights to leave Mary Geoise and attacked immediately. There are the eight rebellious kingdoms where the Holy Knights were sent.

>>279625460
Top tier logias: light, lightning, magma, darkness
Each having a different specialization and being extremely powerful in the right hands.

>>279636351
Anyone with ACoO can avoid Sugar.

>>279620794 (OP)
If you really think about it, except for Smoker getting foderized and losers coming up with stupid explanations for him or Crocodile getting complacent, reality nothing much changed except One Piece became ugly dollar store Dragon Ball and "MY HAKI IS STRONGER THAN YOURS!!" became the new "I have a good fruit".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFCUzimMpt4

What did you think Kuma would be like after Paradise?

>>279638440
There is no point to bounties beyond a certain level.

>>279638638
Dragon is low-admiral tier at best and probably doesn't even know about the special haki required to stop the HK from regenerating.

What if Imu is actually a devil from inside a devil fruit?

>>279638766
Kaido is likely the strongest character to exist in the past 100 years and his haki was nowhere near as good as that of Shanks' or Rogers. He got hard carried by his df, just like Luffy, Big Meme and the admirals.

>>279638017
isn't that his daughter

>>279638798
I think there must be a reason why the Revos learned Fishmen Karate.

Perhaps Fishmen Karate is also a counter to the Holy Knight.

>>279638824
In the end that means very little to me because he ended up extremely lame and dissappointing and he could have had any fruit that made something big and flashy happen along with his super duper big number. You could have also switched Big Mom and Moriah's fruits and very little would have changed as well.

>>279638572
Do you think he fucked Goldenweek? If so, even more renown to his credit

>>279638872
forget pic

>>279638798
>>279638638
>probably doesn't even know about the special haki required to stop the HK from regenerating
So how is this any different from Logia invulnerability. Isn't it worse? It at least makes sense for a naked hand to not be able to strike smoke and fire.

>>279638440
Anon, no bounty hunters are stupid enough to go against a pirate worth a billion. i bet there are more common hunt parties for bounties around the hundreds of millions. The rest are just gods, only admirals have to deal with, and I think the marines only get Hot Pockets instead of the bounty.

>>279638984
You can touch them just fine but in order to stop Imu's regeneration df powers you need to use a special kind of haki that dispels the df's effect.

>more marine bounties have been claimed than pirate bounties
KWAB

Sex with Imu.
I'm confident that Imu will be a female.
If I'm right I'm straight if I'm wrong I'm a faggot.

>>279639013
Yeah I know, I saw what "happened" with Gaban. But isn't this lame? Like the same kind of rock-paper-scissors thing that people say would have been bad for One Piece? Except lamer cuz it's nebulous and now Oda can make up whatever the hell he wants? It's basically waiting to get a Zelda dungeon item to unlock the "hurt HK" door of the skill tree.

>>279620971

>>279639075
There are two power systems in the world of OP, devil fruits and haki. Why do you expect something different?

>>279625755
If Oda went the seastone route it'd quickly become the Zoro and Sanji show as opposed to the haki route where it's the Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji show.

>>279625755
I'm glad you are not the one writing OP.

>>279639112
Because it's boring like this.

>The Strawhats visit the land of Wano, the only place with known seastone quarries
>Liberate the seastone weapon factories
>Have hundreds if not thousands of talented seastone masons and artisans that now owe you a lifetime debt
>>>>Don't upgrade your entire arsenal with seastone
>>>>Don't coat your ship's hull with seastone to open up Calm Belt navigation
>>>>Don't at least take some seastone with you to fiddle with
Wtf were they thinking? You'd think at the very least Usopp and Franky would jump on that shit.

>be one piece citizen
>can finally kill marines and get paid for it now
>hmm which one should i kill?
>the hundreds of corrupt degenerates and the cartoonishly neutral evil tyrants that’ll burn down an orphanage just to smoke out one pirate OR the good natured high ranking marine that reads to the sick and bakes cookies for the elderly
>*kills the latter*
One thing I’ve noticed time and time again is that One Piece citizens are ridiculously grimy and ungrateful and actively fight to protect their own misfortune. Maybe they deserve the world they have.

>>279620971
You could probably have a billion creative ways for Luffy to use his Gear powers or for anyone with super strength and/or speed to do creative shit, haki comes off as boring as coating everything in seastone would have been.

>>279639175
What's the alternative? Sea-stone weapons are fucking retarded.

>you need haki to hurt Logias
>you need special haki to hurt Kaidou
>no wait that's not good enough, you need extra special haki to hurt Kaidou
>you need extra extra special haki to hurt Holy Knights
>you need extra extra extra extra special haki to hurt Imu

Kuma flasback is a torture porn

Kuma's parents and him were enslaved, his mom died off screen, his dad got shot in front of him

They took him to an island to get hunted like animals with other civilians, after escaping with his new friends he joins the revolutionaries, his loved one gets enslaved and raped by CD's

She returns years later but is dying and dies before he even gets to see her, he has to raise her kid who has the same disease she has and is going to die in a decade.

He spends years trying to find a cure, he finds one but he has to clone himself, never seen Bonney again, lose his sense.

The sad thing is that Kuma never found happiness.

Law's home island was wiped out, he lost his family, and he hid among corpses.

He joined Doffy. He met Corazon, who wanted to help him heal. Corazon was killed by Doffy.

Law found happiness. He met Bepo, Shachi, and Penguin and formed his pirate crew.

>>279620794 (OP)
They got nerfed, but a lot of them are still really strong. Someone like Smoker suffered while Enel or Akainu don't because their elemental powers are still strong.

>>279639224
So sorry, must go to Egghead, no time

>>279639237
You need ACoA to penetrate Kaido's naturally tough skin. ACoC is basically just an even stronger version of ACoA for now.
There may be several variants of ACoA or ACoC that aren't necessarily stronger but can stop the HK from regenerating. And Imu is likely the product of an immortality operation so only Law can revert it.

>>279639249
Why did the celestial dragons send Ginny home instead if shooting her and burning the body the second they found out she was sick?

>>279639234
Imo Wiper almost killing Enel was way cooler than anything that's been done with haki. And Enel countered it using his ability in a very creative and imposing way too. But it doesn't have to be seastone or haki, look at the replies this got >>279620971. People like to clown on kryptonite and Superman but he can actually be hurt by many things, kryptonite is just fancy poison to him, and it's up to the writer to not trap himself in a box and make it boring.

>>279639292
Because they're assholes and sadists. They were disgusted by Ginny's illness.

They were so heartless, they kicked her out right after Bonney was born. Baby Bonney was naked and wrapped in a sheet.

>>279639331
I don't really want to see creative ways to counter logia fruits. Luffy carrying around a fucking mirror when fighting against Kizaru would make me drop the manga.

>>279639292

Well, I think Holy Knights are more brutal and would kill their wives/slaves.

Celestial Dragon treats people like toys, and when the toy gets boring, it's thrown away.

>>279639362
What I'm saying is, it doesn't have to be "carrying a mirror", it doesn't have to come from an element or a cheap power system. But in reality there's very little difference between him carrying a mirror or unlocking gasubakuhakubasu haki. It's just using a key, and the latter is way more boring imo.

Why is Toei obsessed with Zoro?

>>279638872
Koala just has a strong fascination with fishmen because of Fisher Tiger and decided to learn it, I dont believe it's something a lot of Revos actually learn. It's also unclear at this point if humans can even take advantage of the full breath of the techniques given they rely on using the water in the air which humans may or may not be able to use.
Now on the topic of it being useful against the regen, maybe, if it comes from a DF, the same way fishman karate or salt can affect DF given their relation to water/sea.

>>279639463
No I'd rather see people punch harder with aura than someone carrying around a fucking mirror. How the fuck do you even come up with this shit?

Every single argument against Haki vs. Logias is just
>carrying around some bullshit everywhere
>Haki but with extra steps
>some shit Roger could never do despite him being the "strongest"

>>279637942
Does no one here care about Joyboy?

>>279633873
Old poll. Bonney and Kuma are going into the top 15. Bonney wil go top 10 for sure.

>>279637942
Why not an Ace-clone?

>>279639509
Yeah I know, you'd rather see the same thing you've already seen but be told it's different, I get it. I don't, that's all.

>>279638824
>Kaido is likely the strongest character to exist in the past 100 years
Watch your words, Rocks will not stand for this

>>279639512
Roger was slightly weaker than Whitebeard who himself was slightly weaker than Kaido.
>>279639559
Yes exactly, I'd rather see different variations of the two existing power systems than seastone weapons and fucking mirrors.

>>279639536
Delusional, no one will care about egghead when Elbaf ends

>>279639642
The ongoing anime?

>>279639642
I think some more people will give Kizaru their votes.

>>279639531
Not really no

Why did he lie?

>>279639688
He didn't lie, he's just not done yet.

>>279639654
Next poll will be in 2 years, Egghead won't air around that time

>>279637940
this would've been better than what we got

>>279639637
>variations
Wrong.

>>279639292
Because she was a revolutionary commander and sending her back in that state would be demoralizing as fuck.

>>279639764
Agreed. Big Brain Luffy would have been hilarious, and would have segued well into Egghead.

Does anybody have problems with "connection error" when attaching an image to the post? Are we getting attacked again?

>>279639512
Haki would've been fine if it was just "can touch logias now"
Instead, what its ended up becoming
>completely nullify DFs and all their effects
>manifest 4 extra arms and 2 extra heads
>literally see into the future

>>279639072
>Sex with Imu
Anon...she's evil.

>>279639833

>>279639830
You forgot

>invulnerability but not really

>>279635391
jesus 2 cancer fusing into 1

I am NOT part of the monster trio.

>>279620971
wits, tricks, whatever. also it doesnt have to be a 1vs1 fight, he got a whole crew that can help him instead of just doing nothing or fight stakeless nobodies.

>>279639830
>completely nullify DFs and all their effects in the most convenient way possible
Just look at Kaido and BM vs Law.

>>279639512
Haki transcends all

>>279639776
It is variations.

>>279639905
I swear you fags should just go back to your HxH generals with your boring ass ideas.

>Big Mom was the coolest and most unique Emperor
>First time that One Piece had a "Force of Nature" villian that our protag had to run from at all costs
>cool ass devil fruit, genuine fun to see (when she isn't in Wedding Cake mode)
>Awesome voice actress

THEN COMES WANO
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSTEEEEEEEEED
>W A S T E D
>WASTED
>W
>A
>S
>T
>E
>D

WHY

>>279636468
But enough about (You)

>>279639878
We know, Jinbe. There’s a reason why you got humiliated by Gunko and are tired up with weakling Straw Hats while Robin does everything + has bigger balls than you.

>>279639978
ok oda, i'm sure muh haki is stronger and i big punch you are all interesting ideas.

>>279639978
>said the "PUNCH HARDER!1!!" faggot

>>279636777
>>279636898
>>279636957
>Scatrotcuck is a yonkekshizo
Of course.

You faggots will shit blood when someone fires out a full on haki beam in an arc or two

>>279640043
Maybe its just the return to her good hairstyle but Robin's been on a roll this arc

>>279636995
Admirals are still stronger than every pirate except for Shanks.

BRING US ZOLO AND KEKJI

>>279640050
>>279640064
Devil fruits offer huge variations and are still extremely relevant despite Kaido's claim otherwise. Haki itself is a much better option when it comes to defeating otherwise invulnerable opponents than seastone weapons/gloves or dumb ""creative"" ways.

>The only one who loves Luffy

>Has a disease where she will die if she won't get impregnated by him

>has 2 debts he said he owes to her

>>279639249
>The sad thing is that Kuma never found happiness.
Bullshit. Kuma found more happiness than most.

He lived with his waifu and lived a peaceful life with her for 16 freaking years.
He got to be a badass commander and continue living a life of adventure with his waifu for 8 years after that.
Losing Ginny sucked, but the man had 24 beautiful years with her. That's as long as Law has been alive pre-timeskip and he had a real shit life for the most part.

And then after Ginny died, he got to live another wonderful 10 years raising her daughter Bonney. He became a father, beloved by Bonney in turn, and while he never exactly got to say goodbye that is again a lot more time feeling joy than feeling abject despair like Robin did for 20 fucking years.

And the best part is, Vegapunk has clearly said Kuma isn't even lost in the end and it's very likely he and Bonney will live happily ever after by the end of the story. Kuma found happiness and enjoyed it for longer periods than most tragic characters in this series had even been alive.

>>279640098
Out of everyone who is left alive, the OG admirals are in the same power tier as Blackbeard and Luffy and somewhat below Shanks and Mihawk.

>>279640111
>buh, huh, buh mista zhree s-sama!!!! Have mercy!!!!! Please don't impale me with your yonko-tier CANDLE WAX!!!!!

>erm but that character clearly has a smaller number than the character he just defeated?? even though Oda didn't give me his number and all I have is my headcanon
>NOOOOO HE TANKED THAT, HE TOTALLY TANKED THAT CHADMIRALS WHERE WE AT
>she's totally gonna join guys she's totally gonna join she's totally definitely gonna join and she's gonna step on Usopp and he's gonna die definitely gonna join definitely

Enjoy the insane asylum you built.

>>279640149
Who's getting eternally blue-balled harder, her or Albedo (Overlord)?

>>279640179
Who are you quoting?

Rokushiki and Mantra were a lot more interesting than what became of Hacki.
The way Mantra worked in Skypeia should have been the cap for how haki works. The Skypeians had supposed mastery with it but the things they did pales in comparison to what Haki does now.
How was Crocodile anything beyond Bellamy tier or why was he ever considered for shichibukai if Haki completely shuts him down and he can't use it?

>>279640144
>Devil fruits offer huge variations and are still extremely relevant despite Kaido's claim otherwise.
Kaido was 100% right, even Law agrees.

>>279640206
EEEVERYONE

>>279640065
>Shitmiral meltdown and paranoia over Stacyrot out of NOWHERE
Stop crying you sensitive little bitch

BB got the dark-dark fruit so he could negate Imu's hax.

THAT'S MY PIRATE

>>279640272
Reminded me of my favourite agenda

I'm Oda and final boss is Blackbeard after making a new contract with Imu's "devil".

Seriously can't Jinbe just spit water while he is tied up?

You fake ass Blastoise Nigga use Hydro Pump already

>>279640243
That was a dfs effect on Law. Shanks, for example, couldn't just take away Marco's or Kaido's special zoan abilities.

>>279640241
>Rokushiki and Mantra
You mean the ones where you dodge, have precognition, harden your body for both offense and defense? As in, just Haki with more steps?

>>279640243
Where tf did bepo get a lipstick and why did he immidietly put it on

>>279640261
>picrel
Oh, you're just a drug addict.

>>279640296
Then why did Shanks' wifi haki immediately knock Green Bull out of his tree form?

>>279625755
>Luffy gets a staff with seastone on it's extremities
>awakening makes him able to stretch it

>>279640329
No I mean powers that were already established and had clear strenghts and weaknesses.
Mantra IS literally haki but before it got bastardized into the form it exists in today.

>>279620971
Similar to how Luffy beat Crocodile

>Franky gets no upgrades from Egghead

AHAHAHA

>>279640429
>coats himself with a natural substance
Almost sounds like...

>>279640241
>How was Crocodile anything beyond Bellamy tier or why was he ever considered for shichibukai if Haki completely shuts him down and he can't use it?
That's the problem with this linear thinking, retcons keep piling up and shitting on things past, and fanboys buy it. I still think Crocodile was way cooler way back in Alabasta, with how he was one of the few villains that killed people, gave Luffy the biggest run for his money anyone else has so far, and how his plan actually made sense. But no, just cuz in Impel Down he gained a "Luffy ally" permit (comes with plot armor) and clashed his hook with a couple characters we were told had a bigger number than him, now he's impressive, and what he did in Alabasta didn't mean shit, he was supposed to be this scrub pre-Gear Luffy stomped, dude!!! Powerscaling is one hell of a drug man.

>>279620794 (OP)
>Haki
>JUST PUNCH HARDER, BRO
Holy shit, Nu-Piece is DOGSHIT!

>>279640176
That jobber got lucky. But yes the wax is strong, even Sengoku couldn't break it, to this day only Brogy has accomplished that.

Okay but why does Kuma look like Bobby hill?

>>279640429
>>279640463
That fight was the writing on the wall. Luffy tried to go creative with 'water Luffy' but still lost, he won when the only condition was punch harder.

>>279633873
Katabros, not like this!

>>279640543
That's what child kuma would look like IRL.

>>279640470
It's called powercreep and it's the consequence of constantly increasing stakes unfortunately.
The feats really didn't have to devolve into blowing up mountains or slashing mountains, Mihawk slashing a ship in half could be the powerlevel cap. Unfortunately that's not very exciting to South Americans who enjoy powerlevels

>>279640458
>Franky spends three years researching Vegapunk's tech
>barely ever said a peep about it,
>basically never interacted with him or his nemesis Caesar

Never forgiving Oda for this.

>>279640543
Shinkiro is that you??

>>279640543
One Piece is a King of the Hill prequel

What do you think Imu is using to convert people? Propane

>>279640571
Remember how most of the third world imploded because Luffy got Gear 5 instead of GEAR DEATH?

>>279640576
All we get out of Franky is
>he looks lamer
That's it

>>279640571
>that's not very exciting to South Americans
Hey!

>>279640579
Hank Hill would kick Caesar Clown's ass when he figured he's producing butane gas.

>>279640502
Honestly Bleach's reiatsu system is better version of One Piece's haki system

>Offensively
No ugly effect of someone blocking a sword with their skin
>Defensively
Both are the same, you don't need special effects at all to tell that someone can read moves
>Presence
The Spiritual Pressure effect is way cooler than the haki thunder fart

Then again both are basically their own version of Dragon Ball and Yu Yu Hakusho ki/spirit energy even with similar though all in all, One Piece is the weakest in this aspect no denying, though those other ones to not weaponize presence other than Toguro I recall

>Imu-Gunko: .....Are you seriously jacking off to me, anon?

>>279640634
Uuuuh he cries from time to time and he beat that guy with the sad story and he rode on Big Mom's face I guess, oh, and he got to meet Oden!!! Cool use of the character right.

>>279640693
>Honestly Bleach [lies just to talk about Sword Naruto]
Shut up retard.

>>279640730
>It's your own fault for dressing like such a slut!

>>279640611
I love and hate Gear 5, because it is a great design, a lot of how it works is a natural evolution to Luffy's powers.
However the elephant in the room is the retcon about it being the mythical zoan with an entity we have no real life analog to. Nika being Oda's made up deity can do whatever the plot will need from this point onward.
Luffy falling into the water? He starts bouncing off it. Why? Because Nika could walk on water of course!

>>279640065
>S-Stop laughing at the Fagmirals, you m-meanie!!!
KEK

Has Franky ever run out of cola post-ts?

>>279640748
You thought you cooked with that one didn't you

>>279640777
When was the last time he did anything fun with his cyborg powers

>Kizaru getting oneshot by gear 5 has been immortalized in plastic
KWAB

>>279640778
>retard speak and seething about one piece again
back to your dead thread bleachnigger

If you could be a One Piece girl, which one would you pick?

>>279640793
Is shit like this that made me wish he didn't join and got the Perona treatment instead I swear he would have more luster, his only new moves anyways is radical beam and a few shogun bots that are not so memorable

>>279640812
Tanked btw

>>279640634
>>279640743
>>279640823
>I'm a faggot please rape my face
Go be gay and boring somewhere else contrarian

>>279640763
My biggest problem with Gear 5 is the personality change in Luffy, the constant laughing. It would have been better if Luffy just remained Luffy, who already is a "Joyboy-ish" character. Why else wait 800 years for him after all?

I also could do without the spawning of random objects like goggles, baseball bats and painting brushes. Beyond that, Gear 5's wacky cartoony characteristics are pretty much what we would have expected from a Gomu-Gomu Awakening anyway.

Yonkobluds...why are we so fuarking weak?!??!

>>279640848
He did not, in fact, tank it. He was knocked out.

All of the Yonko are stronger than all of the Admirals

>>279640823
>new
Punk Hazard was 13 years ago anon

>>279640891
...in opposite day.

Carrot won.

>>279620971
>how would you want luffy to beat smoker?
He wouldn't need to and he would have never needed to.

>>279640859
Exactly, there's just a lot of it that takes away from Luffy being Luffy. On top of all the retroactive writing its trying to do with Nika being a God giants worship when prior to the reveal not a single one commented on Luffy reminding them of Nika.
Only one who seems to have been written with Luffy being Nika in mind is Kuma.

Bring me Vivi.

Sex with nami

>>279640859
It's really minor, but I fucking hate this pose and he does it all the time.

>>279640175
Every Admiral could solo them and their crews combined, so long as you remove Kuzan from BB's.

>>279641124
is what Chopper does every day.

>>279640973
Delete this. Every encounter must be resolved with Luffy punching someone really hard so we know his number is bigger...

I am stronger than Kaido.

>>279640266
>>279640771
Scatrotsissy meltdown.

https://www.cbr.com/netflix-one-piece-anime-remake-production-update/
STILL ALIVE

>>279641139
>>279640859

When Luffy laughed while Vegapunk died in front of him, it was genuinely a bit disturbing.

CHADku will become Admiral-tier when he awakens.

>>279640763
Luffy's got reality-bending powers and its been hinted at a long time ago when Lucci thought to himself how gear 3 makes no sense.

>>279641184
>sensitive little bitch still crying about Stacyrot
It's just a cute rabbit mink lil bro. Learn to laugh and stop being a crybaby.

Is this level of bullying against the rules?

>>279640859
Are you still salty that it wasn't raisin?
>>279640891
Kizaru, Akainu > BM
Akainu > BB

>>279640859
It causes a personality shift to show you that Luffy is still too weak to control Nika's will.

>>279641176
We know it Imu.

>Luffy has to coat himself with water/blood to hit Crocodile
>Luffy just happened to have a natural immunity to Enel, a man he never even met before Skypeia
>people praise these as strategic
All that needs to be said really. Haki was a necessity.

>>279641089
Vivi: I am here Imu. Ready for some fun with my D?

>>279641341
Don't tell that to the stuck-up retards here who still believe in muh seastone weapons.

>>279641273
>Shitmiral little bitch meltdown continues
You hate to see it, but please don't start spamming gay porn. It's almost as if you think Shitmiral posters aren't the biggest joke in One Piece threads. When you aren't seething over Yonkos you're doomposting or posting gay porn.

>>279641232
>CHADku will become Admiral-tier
Why would Kaku want to become weaker than Godro?

>>279641244
If the implication is that Lucci doubts Luffy being just a rubberman and that it was all planned out all the way back then, then it is silly. Because Lucci's analysis of Gear 2 hinges on Luffy being just a rubberman. His comment about Gear 3 not making sense was more about how he doubts it'll do any damage to him because it'd be like getting slapped with a balloon.

>>279641359
No, no, Crocodile totally wasn't defeated by just punching harder. Just look
https://youtu.be/rmRzTBY-8EY

>>279638572
Leave Dorry and Broggy to me.

>>279641341
>>279641359
>>279641443
At this point I think it's more that people nostalgic for pre-TS resent that thanks to Haki, One Piece has become dollar store Dragon Ball, specially the anime. Those things were plot devices and in the long run, the exact same thing as " I can punch you thanks to my kungfu magic", but one of them pushed One Piece more and more into a different direction.

why are two veteran new world pirates, who both have haki, acting like this is rare and impressive?

>>279641503
When was the first time haki was actually mentioned? Jug my memory, was that Blackbeard/Shanks meeting after or before this?

>>279641341
>strong fruits can't be strong because... that wouldn't be fair!!!
And that's why we need haki to have been powercrept 1000x worse than logias ever were.

>>279641503
The Yami Yami shuts down the df completely while Teach is holding them. It's not just a logia thing.

>>279641543
Sabody/Amazon Lily, Luffy was wondering why Sentomaru's hits could harm him and how Rayleigh could harm Kizaru. Then it was called by its name on Amazon Lily because Kuja Haki

>>279641618
So it wasn't mentioned when Luffy knocked out Duval's bison then?

>>279641543
I think the word haki is first used in Jaya by Blackbeard, not sure.

>>279641555
Top tier fruits will instantly bring you to YC3 tier without even trying. If Enel bothered to learned CoA he'd be YC1 tier easily.

>>279640961
>Carrot won.
--/opg/'s heart, because we love Carrot here

>>279641503
Haki is rare, they're in one of the newbie seas, it's not wrong to say it's been a while since Ace has been punched.
Haki also just enables you to damage Logiafags, it doesn't shut off their power. A person that can turn to flames could still burn you on contact or manipulate their body in a way that they can dodge easily.

>>279641674
Tamahombres(singular)...

>>279641640
No, everyone was just confused about what happened.
I'm actually surprised Robin didn't know anything about it too, she would be one of the few characters to hear about it I'd imagine.

>>279641671
Too bad he couldn't learn it because Oda hadn't invented it yet. Shoulda trained his future seeing haki hueharder.

>>279641671
And that's why Smoker, despite having a ""top tier"" fruit, was the same rank as Axe Hand Morgan.

>>279641728
CoA existed as a rough concept ever since Zoro cut Mr 1.
>>279641731
Smoker has a shit tier logia.

>>279640892
Exactly, Franky doesn't even get new moves, just new vehicles

Don't get me wrong I appreciate that he's there but it ruins his luster to have him just be there

>>279640859
>I also could do without the spawning of random objects like goggles, baseball bats and painting brushes.
fag

>>279640814
Be honest you are only salty that I didn't mention Naruto amongst 3 example

Sorry never watched it so I can't speak on the chakra system

>>279641731
I call bullshit because Smoker had been depicted as training and having become stronger by Punk Hazard, if a shitter like Coby can learn the Seven Powers, so can a Vice Admiral, Oda simply got tired of him, that's the real explanation.

>>279641776
>>279640748
>Shut up retard.

>>279640111
Just Sanji will do

>>279641755
Rough is very right, that was supposed to be a way different and esoteric concept that his master passed down to him, with that thing about not cutting paper. If Oda had planned for it to be a "shut down DF" thing, Zoro wouldn't have been completely defenseless against Enel, he would have advanced his powerset a little more.

>>279641795
Post-timeskip there were those whose power kept climbing exponentially and those who got stuck at their current level. Luffy is in the first category while Smoker and Coby are in the latter. This is why they are no longer relevant to the story.

>>279641755
Even a 'shit tier' logia is automatically better than 99% of other DFs, especially if you are surrounded by hakilets.

>>279641187
>The update in question: ehrm we are working on it

>>279625755
>he retconned Haki into existence
The death stare emperor haki existed from the beginning of the series, it just never had a name.
Prediction haki was in Skypeia, it just had a different name and we just didn't know it was trainable and assumed it was a special power of Enel and his goons.
Armament haki was as early as right after enies lobby, when Garp hurts Luffy despite him being made of rubber, though there was no visual indication and we didn't know that that technique also hits logia.

>>279641872
Without the existence of haki, shit-tier logias could still keep up with mythical zoans. With haki, shit-tier logias are barely at the level of a somewhat good paramecia fruit.

>>279641867
And who decides who "keeps climbing", and who doesnt? That's right bitch, BOW TO YOUR GOD(a)

>>279620794 (OP)
If he were in One Piece, what would his character quirk be to make his edgy appearance more light?

>>279641089
Imu-sama…

>>279641900
Luffy was getting hurt on Skypeia too. The current Haki forms are derived from Mantra on Skypeia. Skypeians are supposed to have a great deal of mastery in it but what we saw on Skypeia was nowhere near as impressive as what it became.

>>279640693
Mine…

AAAGGH!!
If only I had haki like Captain Roger, Rayleigh, Gaban, Shanks and every other member of the Roger pirates!!!

>>279637082
How live action of claymore?

>>279642003
Memes aside, this really makes Buggy look like the biggest loser bum in history. No ammount of hindsight nor memes can salvage it lmao

>>279636651

>>279642036
Usopp of Roger Pirates

Haki was introduced before it was formally introduced. I think (observation) haki is pretty much established during Zoro's fight with Daz Bones, but it could be earlier than that for all I remember.

>>279642058
Hey Usopp did get Haki (despite him using it 10 years ago and never again). And he was actually a cool character who stepped up when needed before his post TS flanderization. There was more than gags to Usopp, Buggy is 100% gag. Funny how instead of getting better and progressing, like how a sane story would have handled it, Oda just backed him into a corner more and more, and he stopped doing what he had done before. Because guess what. He's fucking bored of him.

I've never had the chance to post this until now.

Here's Oda foreshadowing the soijak pointing meme like 20 years before it became a meme lmao

>>279642003
Same potential as Shanks btw

>>279620794 (OP)
What's the purpose of rimming a generic battle shonen 24/7? How have people not grown tired of this after 1000 chapters?

>>279642200
It's fun.

>>279620971
>Inhales Smoker
>Ties his arms around something and hops in the ocean
>Braps Smoker out under water

>>279642200
You're still a comic book reader, stfu.

>>279642331
kek

Does this count as three sword style?

>>279642439
Rayleigh at his peak was as strong as Kizaru.

>>279620971
seastone studded brass knuckles.

>>279641800

>>279642456
bro is not Renji Abarai

>>279642439
>struggles with job lucci
>meanwhile Sanji redeems a stalemate with Kizaru

>>279642602
Zolotards have not recovered since this image has been posted

>>279642602
Sanji couldn't stall Kizaru but that light-popping kick was pretty cool ngl.

>>279642602
Stalemated so hard that Vegapunk had a heart attack and spontaneously died.

>>279642657
In this fight with Lucci, Zoro has firmly proven that he is at the lowest YC+ level at best. He has a looooong way to go until he surpasses Mihawk.

>>279641795
>Oda simply got tired of him, that's the real explanation.
Yeah... Oda interest in Koby is what made him ruin Smoker like that in PH.

As someone who liked Smoker. I hope that he returns to the G-5 instead to be humiliated again or just return in Koby agenda favour.

>>279642678
Yonkobluds... They're talking about our failures again...

>>279642728
To be fair, Luffy was uniquely unsuited to fight against Kizaru. Kizaru's speed + defense build perfectly countered gear 5's timer.

Reminder that Nami is a monkey

How do the men in the crew control themselves with those two around?

>>279642872
They’re all gay for Yamato

>>279642872
Oda doesn't show it, but the Thousand Sunny is constantly having orgies.

Stella is still alive. I dont know why people say Kizuru killed him. His conciousness is uploaded and he has a clone body on standby ready to be downloaded to. Kizuru failed.

>This doomtard samefagging his lame points
For what purpose?

>>279642924
Kizuru didn't really try to do shit.
Man half assed everything and even fed Luffy (we'll see it in a flashback).

KinoKiz will be his name soon.

>>279642251
I don't think it's fun at all. You can't honestly think there's a single page in the last 150 chapters of one piece that was remotely decent. It's actually depressing.

>>279642602
This post broke the Zorotroons

>>279642695
I wouldn't blame Koby as much as the fact Oda used Smoker as a springboard to hype up many other characters, several times in a row. And so, in a story like PT One Piece that doesn't have anything but hype and big nummers, the fanbase eternally turned against him, brandished as a jobber forever. I really liked Smoker too and he might maybe join Sword or whatever that shit is but I wouldn't get my hopes up for him doing anything cool ever again. Oda has demonstrated he would rather come up with billions of new characters than give any flowers to ones he set up decades ago.

>>279642872
>Franky is Too SUPER for them
>Sanji is Nami&Robin servant
>Brook is a skeleton
>The rest are Gay.

>>279642924
It depends on your viewpoint, even characters in universe wonder what death is for Vegapunk.

>>279642908
I fully believe that Nami fucks for money everytime they make port but I wonder how Robin gets her itch scratched.

>>279641758
speaking of that how would we make other strawhat less stagnants for what new moves they would have?

>Brook
have a necromancing marching band and possess other things with his soul, not sure if he has already done that and I don't see why not
>Franky
have a new compact MK III look in essence of more advance technology getting smaller, thought it was a post-wano fumble of how he created zero dinobased weapons like you would see in voltron and power rangers
>Jinbe
finally do something that would be special for him as a fishman, like idk make up that he has a blow hole to blast a water cannon out of even though whale sharks don't have a spout but fuck it is better than nothing

>>279641503
Kekbeard and Ace are weak jobbers.

>>279643008
Robin can replicate any part of herself.

So yeah.
Let's just say, things got real handy for a lot of people.

Smoker got powercrept but he can easily still play a relevant role in the final saga. That panel of him on the bike implies he's got his own plan that he's following, but even if not he'll work with SWORD or some other group of marines towards their ultimate goal. He'll probably be shown fighting, just not with any of the top-tiers.

>>279641705
CoC can shut off DF abilities completely.

>>279643138
?

>>279641503
because Ace completely lost his DF and wasn't even able to attempt to dodge

>>279641872
A shit tier logia is outperformed by zoans and 90% of paramecias when you introduce haki.

>>279642950
thats what I been saying, you would honestly be hard pressed to find a one piece page that is better than the anime since onigashima

and thats not saying that the anime is good, but the state of the SHITnga

>Luffy brings up wanting to kick the most useless strawhat off of the crew

Who starts sweating hardest first?

>>279643179
Obviously Usopp. Luffy had a serious chance of replacing that bum last arc with Kizaru.

>>279642872
Serious answer

>Luffy barely ever shows any sexual interest in any woman. It's not even that Luffy is asexual, his brain is simply built different in a way if you get it. To put it simply Luffy is a weirdo, an anomaly of a human being.
>Zoro is hyperfocused on his dream, anything else barely registers
>Sanji barely can control himself
>Usopp does find them attractive, has shown sexual interest, but he's just not a massive pervert, and he likely doesn't feel worthy enough of either woman.
>Chopper is a reindeer
>Franky is straight but his body is barely human at this point, but he has been shown at times to like women
>Brook clearly are attracted to them but he doesn't have a dick and is old enough to have some class anyway
>Jinbe is old, somewhat jaded, and also is a Fishman

If you ask me Zoro is the biggest oddball here. It is actually WEIRD how he never shows even a hint of attraction to Nami, Robin, or any woman. Case in point is he showed zero reaction to Yamato getting in the hot spring completely naked.

>>279642960
>I wouldn't blame Koby as much as the fact Oda used Smoker as a springboard to hype up many other characters, several times in a row.

But nobody had any chance to replace Smoker as Luffy Marine rival

>I really liked Smoker too and he might maybe join Sword or whatever that shit is but I wouldn't get my hopes up for him doing anything cool ever again.

I only hope that Oda remembers that Smoker is G-5 base Commander now. He has one excuse to avoid this.
I do not care if Smoker can turn stronger or anything. He will still be far weaker than Luffy and it will just be in Koby agenda favour.

With Tashigi Oda can make whatever he wants. I do not care and she already worked alongside SWORD once.

>>279643179
Zolo.

>>279643205
When this image happened? I only remember something like this in Sabaody return.

>>279643170
I'm not even shitposting. I don't know how you can look at the first 50 chapters of one piece, and compare them to the last 50 chapters of one piece, and not be appalled. It's genuinely shocking that people devote so much time and energy to One Piece. It'd be one thing if it was a passing interest, but it's clearly not. I consider they people to be in the same camp as /dbs/ fans. The second someone says they like one piece I know not to listen to any of that person's opinions because they clearly don't care about manga at all.

Koby is so fucking obnoxious.
Why can't we have Blackbeard squish him with his fat ass?

>>279643205
Alcoholism leads to reduced sexual drive; it's likely Zoro cannot even raise it anymore.

>>279640961
- my heart
>>279641674
HEY!

Ulti

Why doesn't Law keep all his vitals in a box, buried deep underground so no one ever finds them?

>>279643233
I just found the picture on google after searching "Usopp Nami boobs". My first thought was inside the Brachio Tank in Wano, but the outfits don't match so Idk.

>>279643244
tbqh I wasn't even fond of the early one piece art style, is way more toonish than I remembered

but atleast it is actually engaging to read through, I can't even tell what is going on half the time in nu-piece scribbles with the paneling of a vomiting polaroid camera

>>279643278
how can you not love that smile and jolly aura

>>279641973
I don't remember him getting hurt by mantra, but I bet you're right, it's been a long while since I've reread one piece, and I usually start during enies lobby because it's one of my favorite arcs.

>>279643261
Zoro is also a nip, so there's probably not much down there to begin with honestly.

>>279620971
Gear 3 into giant balloon form into bazooka fart machine. You know Oda would do it.

>>279635781
>>279635318
yeah is quiet there's no back talk

>>279643302
OK.. Nvm.
>>279643250
Sadly Oda likes that boy. He sacrificed Garp just to save him.
Now he decided join the WG agenda against Nika.

>>279643307
I had physical copies of one piece when I was a kid, and from that point it was visually really cool and dynamic art, similar reason to why spiderman appeals to little kids but not adults. Now it just looks like a schizo mess, and the anime isn't any better either. People could be reading so much better manga than this, it's so strange that people choose the worst things to obsess over.

>>279643205
Zoro is such a faggot, didn't even fuck Perona after living with her for 2 years.

>>279643362
That explains why he takes it on minorities.

>>279643334
She stole Yamato or Shanks spot

>>279643449
Mihawk took her for him
The strongest takes whatever he wants.

>>279643449
I genuinely would have fucked her so much my dick wouldn't work until the next Joyboy

>>279643244
Early OP is a real fun action adventure with this really unique boisterous cartoony charm. Inspired by Vicky the Viking iirc. The issue is, the absurd exponential growth of stakes and powerlevels ensured a lot of what makes it fun to look it was lost in the process, stuff starts getting drawn smaller and the absolutely overwhelming cast and number of details just bog everything down, when it used to be almost as clean as an Akira Toriyama comic.

>>279643179

>>279643470
Lucky man.

>I want Perona to sit on my face

Discuss

>>279643532
Imagine the smell

>>279643432
Go back, moe tourist

>>279643250
He is too strong for Blackbeard.

>>279643594
>Go back
To where? I'm already on /a/ where I belong.

>>279643432
Spiderman appeals to everyone, what are you on about?

Anal sex with Perona.

>>279643605
To your generic isekai slop threads?

>>279643620
>Spiderman appeals to everyone
Oh anon....

>>279643179
Sanji no sweats

>>279643605
To /lgbt/.

>>279643432
>similar reason to why spiderman appeals to little kids but not adults.
What the fuck are you talking about, moeshitter?

>>279643641
Well you see anon, i wont do that since because I'm not a redditor I don't sit in generals all day. I don't need to sit in a hug box subreddit and discuss one thing for months on end. That's not healthy.

>>279643631
Perona vibrator

>>279643459
Good.

>>279643449
She raped him 700+ times though.

>>279643432
>Now it just looks like a schizo mess
If only you knew how bad things really are. Post TS One Piece is the worst paneled mainstream shonen I can think of, it's not even close. Marineford is supposed to be this untouchable masterpiece, but by then it was already too late. Too many characters. Too much shit.

>>279643683
Spiderman is a little kids comic that they read because it has a lot of wacky dynamic poses. It's content doesn't matter, which is good because it generally doesn't have anything of value to speak of beyond looking cool.

>>279643726
How do zolobros cope with this

>>279643691
Moeturd...you don't even know what you're talking about, Spiderman appeals to everyone, and we don't need your retarded thoughts about One Piece here.

>>279643737
You could say the same shit about your moe garbage.
You will never be a woman, by the way.

>>279643760
>Spiderman appeals to everyone
Anon, no one likes comics any more except for 30-something failed normalfags that buy them when they go to pick up MTG booster packs. It's basically the sort of thing you read on the toilet, except comics are fucking expensive now, so it's not even good for that. My pristine mint condition 1000th issue of spiderman is worth LESS than I paid for it.

>>279643784
This fag probably reads some slop shit like "I found a cute dragon elf who only wears panties on a magical trip with my divorced wizard uncle" but thinks his opinion is worth something, pathetic!

>>279643887
>This fag probably reads some slop shit like "I found a cute dragon elf who only wears panties on a magical trip with my divorced wizard uncle
Yeah nigga that manga is fire

>>279643825
Look at Richie Rich over here...

>>279644008
Not that one, there are like 3 1000th issues now, which additionally have multipled covers of varying value and rarity to kike max

>>279643757
>it was all an act, he's actually into it

>>279643138
Strong haki can nullify devil fruit effects placed on you. You can't use it to like, force Crocodile's sand body together.

>>279638572
Galdino knows his stuff, so he makes full use of his ability, honestly he pulled out stuff because he knew how to do it, he's one of the FEW OP character with Joseph Joestar's IQ with an ability that should suck by the common eye but it can be pretty broken once he manages to use it, instead of abilities that seem OP but have very obvious weaknesses once you look at them, i was thinking how to counter Van Augur's teleport and the answer was simple, camouflage, the guy can teleport but in the time he does so depending on the distance, if you manage to move out of his line of sight, you can literally outgambit him.

>>279643737
>>279643825
Can't vouch for current day capeshit, and go ahead and call it pulpy edgy melodrama but I'd take Kraven's Last Hunt or something like Grell's Green Arrow over pretty much any pandery shonenjumpshit or moecrap. I like them because I like the writers's ideas and the artwork was outstanding, not because of hype culture or coombaitery. OG Spidey comics are also fun to go back to, specially when you compare it to the rest of Ditko's output and watch his gradual descent into ostracism and madness.

>>279643825
>30-something failed normalfags that buy them when they go to pick up MTG booster packs
The only people I know that do that are the ones that became dads and stopped engaging too much into stuff and like this superficial pop culture nerd stuff.

>>279638572
Galdino with enough info on a target and sufficient prep time can solo it 100%. No need for haki. Just big brain time.