Thread 7699278

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If you're on a break after drawing and feel like sharing what's on your mind about what you're working on, the industry, things that excite you about art, or anything that frustrates you about drawing or the process of art then grab a cup of water and chill out here.

Remember to keep discussion on-topic as much as possible.

Just blew up a year+ long game dev project and I feel lost right now. Even had a Steam page and all.
What do you guys do when you work on a large project and it doesn't pan out? Studies till your next one?

It's a nice feeling

I don't know what to draw. I thought I had found my "art style" but I have only gotten a few likes and followers. My art isn't marketable.

sometimes i just noodle and fuck around on one thing because i'm afraid the next thing i do won't be nearly as good so i just edge the feeling of working on something nice. ugh

>>7699322
You need to brand and establish yourself. I follow and engage with artists of the same genre. Why would I be interested in artists who don't even know what their own subject is?

I have friends, multiple groups, but none really know me. I've been on 4chan since I was 11 (33 now) and this is the only social connection that fills the hole, and only sometimes. Haven't had a woman in my life for a decade, and have largely settled on trying to fill that with drawing because the women I'm into are almost never into me. I often wonder if it all went wrong somewhere, but looking back it seems like this is just who I've always been, it was always going to be this way. I was a loser when I was 8, and at 13, and moreso at 17 and so on until now. No amount of going to the gym seems to overcome my apparently inherent cowardice & ineptitude.

>>7699288
I bet it feels good

>>7699286
Just draw for fun. Make some garbage, let your mind wander.

>>7699322
Almost no one's art is marketable. Work on your fundamentals though. Your 'style' is probably a crutch.

I get sad when an artist I follow isnt interested in my art, but I see them reblog artworks way worse than mine. There is some ngmi stank ony what I do

>>7699506
>I see them reblog artworks way worse than mine

What makes you think they see your artworks? I miss lot of art from artists I follow in Twitter, Instagram and Tumblr because the feed has chosen not to show them to me. Does the artist even follow you?

>>7699521
No artist I like follows me back

>>7699535
Have you contacted them and told them they inspire you or are you waiting for them magically find your existence?

>>7699536
I comment on their art often. Its ok I just have to keep working harder on my skills and designs. Here is the only place I can come and cry about being ignored before I return to my art

>>7699540
Do they see your comments?

>>7699541
Yes

>>7699542
Do your comments indicate you are an artist yourself too?

comissions are so demotivating. It just feels like work since I have no passion for this stupid idea.

>>7699580
Only take comms you yourself want to draw. My comms are always same genre what I draw anyways so they fun to draw

>>7699580
Don't take comms unless they pay an amount that works hout to an hourly wage you feel fespected by.

>>7699596
>>7699595
learning this the hard way lol

>>7699278 (OP)
realising my approach to daily practice has been nowhere near enough, just drawing poses each day for 30 or so mins. worked for getting me to do it each day but need to shift up how I do it if I want to actually see improvement. feels like today's stuff went poorly but maybe it's a good thing that it went so poorly that it made me reflect on this

or I'm just talking shit

>>7699278 (OP)
GIWTWM

how do i push past demotivation? sometimes ill just stare at a canvas with absolutely no good ideas

Is using ai to help me get better at certain skills beyond just art but in math, language, programming, and making concepts for art that i want to make really that bad?

I hear about how it’s bad for the environment, but like, weren’t old super computers massive? They were really bad for the environment once too, right? Won’t it just improve in efficiency like most computers do?

>>7700315
There are entire farms for AI computing, it's not just a few servers on a basement of a 2 stores building, it's more like yards and yards of servers taking up land. The more people use AI, the more water and electricity they take, and to maintain all of that they have to destroy the environment with unsustainable resources.
We're getting a ton of new technologies, which is good for humanity, but world hunger, extreme poverty, inflation, suicides, etc. aren't being addressed, because AI, a new form of control of the masses, is more important. Humans will be replaced by machines and we will become obsolete.

>>7700378
Yeah but it’s not stupid like nfts or bitcoin. The ai itself can actually come up with ways to improve its own energy efficiency and as humans we have the ability to choose if those things are the right thing to do.

>suicides
why does that matter as much as poverty and inflation? the amount of people alive is only good for corporations who profit off of people working for them.

>>7699286
A year is nothing in the grand scheme of things in gamedev
I've had multiple game dev projects that lasted over 3 years, over 5 years. And just stopped it sucks. But sometimes, that's all you can do. However, you will have learned something from those past projects. I suggest making a small project. A small two week project and get yourself back on the bus

>>7700397
That's fair anon. Ive seen a lot of solo devs take almost a decade so I'm just being a whiny bitch I guess.
I think I need to take some time to reevaluate some decisions and get back into dev

>>7700400
sounds like fun, but how large is the project? are you open to collaboration even if brief?

>post probably the best drawing of my life
>1 [(one) UNO] view
idr give a shit about "building a following" or making money, I just want people to see my art.

>>7700548
Where do you post? Do your followers follow you because of your main subject? Was your best drawing part of the subject you are known and followed for? How are they supposed to find you and your best piece?

>>7700430
Its pretty large. Its basically the size of fear and hunger in terms of asset creation.

I think collaboration is a bad idea because I'll just end up fucking someone over and I wouldn't want that.

>>7700548
can i see it

I don't think I'm gmi. Feels like I'm getting too old to NEET chasing an e-artist dream

>>7700676
How long you been drawing? How many followers?

>How many followers?
Why is this important

>>7700693
Indicates if the og anon knows how to market himself and make it as an e-artist. You can be master in skill but if you don't know how to garner audience, it's moot for the goal.

>>7700691
3 years, only hit 1k this year
I don't know if that's acceptable growth, I do see what people mean by how interactions "grow exponentially" when you hit 1k but I'm just scared of riding things out until 5 years with a bigger gap in my resume

>>7700740
You post to other sites than Twitter?

>>7700765
No, I keep delaying to. No justifications on that, I keep thinking of an optimal time and forget to post too

>>7700774
Make yourself DeviantArt and Pixiv and other sites' account that don't rely on algorithm. They are slow roll to get started and grow but once they do, they will help you with Twitter and other algorithm based sites. You want wide net.

>>7700552
Twitter and Instagram, I also post on /ic/ Discords but I don't think that counts

Honestly it used to be enough for me just to post and people would see it. Like, my art was 1000x shittier yet it was showing up to more people.
Now "Just posting" feels like I'm throwing it into a giant empty chasm and idk what I'm even supposed to do.

>>7700845
Twitter and Instagram are algorithm based sites. If you are small acount and the algorithm can't detect to whom to show your stuff, it will be shown to no one. One thing that can help is making sure your followers follow you for particular thing/s that the algorithm can detect. Once that's done the algorithm starts pushing you to similar users and networks.

Consider making yourself Pixiv, DeviantArt and NewGrounds where any people interested in tags you use fitting your work can see it and it's not up to algorithm whether your art gets seen.

how can we reduce the number of artists online? There's too much competition and its only going to get worse.

>>7700918
You can't. AI artists are going to further increase the competition. It's absolutely joever.

>>7700918
draw for fun to impress your friends and family and girls

I'm social media detoxifying since I found out my satisfaction is completely external. My output took a hit and now most days I don't really feel like drawing. Should I just keep being an attention whore after all?

>>7701414
You need to draw and post the drawings because your drawings don't become art until other people see them. Do consider which platforms bring you the best satisfaction and meaningful interaction. The sweet spot are the ones that have new people not only see your latest but also lets them easily see your old ones too because you get to see which your previous ones get engagement even later.

>>7699278 (OP)
I can't tell if the reason this animation has taken so long is because I'm too ambitious, or too incompetent
or both
I just hope people aren't disappointed when it's finally done

>>7701424
Your followers don't have as strict expectations for your content as you do. They are happy with new finished content.

>>7701414
at its core art is usually about communication. Its just a medium to convey your ideas and thoughts and having no one to show it to can make it feel meaningless. Its probably worth sharing with someone at the very least, it doesn't have to be social media

>know 3d modelling including sculpting
>could very easily 3d model entire scenes and simply trace them
>take the boomer grid method every time because I enjoy it
is this what getting old feels like or just autism?

>>7701518
If you know perspective then it's faster to just draw it out most of the time. I only model complex scenes or buildings that are going to be reused.
No shame in drawing, that's where true skill lies, and it's fun.

>>7701524
Thats fair. It just feels kind of dumb I guess because even animation background artists I know resort to 3d for everything nowadays. Even complex scenes with vehicles and stuff I'll draw it out because I just cannot be assed to trace another 3d model anymore.

>>7699580
I know that feeling. I've been working with a guy for a couple of years, and he seems to love my work. He's told me that I'm the only artist who understands his vision. However, I dislike around 95% of his ideas. In fact, I find many of them just plain repulsive. Out of respect, and because he enables me to support my family financially, I haven't said anything to him. However, lately he has asked me to help him come up with new ideas based on old commissions, and he has even proposed a game in which we continue scenarios together. It's one thing to mindlessly draw things you dislike, but it's quite another to generate ideas based on things you hate, pretending that you enjoy them.

Lately I've been mostly drawing more finished pieces instead of focusing on studies. Is this right? I attend live model sessions every two weeks or so and feel like they're good practice.

>>7701951
Yes. To learn to draw finished pieces you need to practice drawing finished pieces.

How's everyone's weekend going? Anything new?

>>7701951
That's great actually. Most people get caught in study hell and forget why they're learning art for... and by most people I mean me. When you feel that your art work has plateaued or if you don't know how to do something, it's time to do the studies.

>>7702113
Pretty good anon. Went to a vintage construction equipment show today. I think I'm ready to get back on the dev horse after I finish this dumb sad background I drew yesterday to try to steal Xi Zhang's style.

I'm still torn between going back to pixel art or trying something more like Hades though

>>7700904
I think it's become endemic to these platforms. pic is just an example that showed up on my feed but I follow dozens of artists that would be the top 0.001% of /ic/ - just great artists with tons of appeal, some with thousands of followers, getting like <50 impressions (not even views) on a drawing.
50 views is what I used to get 3 years ago on a dumpster-tier sketch.

Like it doesn't seem that skill has anything to do with it people seeing your stuff, most of these artists are also hyper-focused on certain fandoms like you said
it pisses me off I just don't know what to do besides stick to fucking Discords and post it to my art friends.

>>7702611
Use art sites that aren't algorithm based. Pixiv, Deviant Art and NewGrounds all have the perk of people being able to see all the works with their sought tags. So it's up to you to know how to tag your work and make the thumbnail enticing to open. Of course it doesn't hurt if your art has appeal and your gallery shows you offer something worth to start following. I have plenty of artist friends from 4chan and out of 4chan who do draw well but have no idea what makes people connect with the art and artists.

>>7701414
Just wanted to say that I can relate to this, especially after posting something that gets more attention than usual. Maybe I should just get off the internet

>wanted to reorganize my files
>see some of my old art
holy cringe aiiieeeeeee

Been a week since I stopped smoking. The withdrawal combo of insomnia and restless arm kicked my ass last night. Today I feel extremely sluggish and wobbly I am not going to relapse if I have to go through this shit again

>>7702113
Shit like always. Writing stories is impossible unless you have a natural talent for it, so I just sit in my bed and try to think of things I could write and nothing ever comes out of it.

>>7702849
What helps me with my daydreaming is listening to music

>make fan design, think it looks cool
>start thinking I shouldn't post it in case I ever use it instead for a original project and don't want to embarrass myself/look like a unoriginal hack for repurposing it
>never post it
>never make a original project/comic because I have ADHD
My mind is a prison

>>7702849
Listen anon, this is the secret to writing/creative work, you need to listen first. Understand second. Feeling third. And lastly observe, from real life, from your imagination, and the key to getting into the zone, is allowing yourself to be free, so the gods and the muses can give you ideas. It's weird, sometimes it comes when you are showering, taking the dog for a walk in the park, or during midnight, the best kind are dreams, vivid visions, the best is to remember and jolt it down quickly. I keep a dream diary on my bed, right beside my pillow. God speed anon.

>>7702849
touch grass, unironically
you need to get input from real life, your brain is starved

Decided to check out the finalists for the contest I applied to and literally all of them were paintings and only two weren't in color.
I was disappointed at first but then I realized "Oh wait the judges were clearly always leaning towards oil painting in color as winners" when I had just submitted a monochrome ink drawing.
Which is fine and all it wasn't very good but why not specify that "Actually any medium isn't allowed it's guaranteed to be only in color oil painting that can be a winner."
Why lie to us like that? Imagine being a judge from some big art org and you just go "Wait did this idiot really submit a drawing while everyone else is throwing up big oil painting self portraits? You couldn't have just saved me the humiliation?

>>7702611
>Pic
You didn't retweet. You're complaining but you're part of the problem. Twitter's feed is curated by other users, and exclusively so if you use the for you tab. Don't blame the algorithm.

I'm looking into exploring oil paints and it seems like a colour set seems the best value.
Would it be better to begin learning with just black, white and the three primary colours to learn colour mixing or should I go for a set that offers multiple different colours but in smaller tubes?

i finally got a job after 4/5 months. deiced to draw right now and i just can't do it! i wasn't keeping track of the time i didn't spent drawing, about 2 weeks maybe. but god dam i'm just blanking out right now

>>7703050
Maybe ijdk how these sites work
I used to reply a lot but someone told me that the app just IDs you as a "Bot" if you reply to often so I only do it occasionally now.
>retweet
I have 13 followers and they're all bots

>>7703193
Yeah, working is hard. Unloke being a NEET you have to put a conscious effort to sit down and deaw after work.
For me, starting is the hardest but once I'm on my desk drawing it's easy to keep going and I just have fun.

>>7703185

Sets are usually not great colourwise. The Zorn palette goes a long way for a beginner. In modern pigments that would be titanium white, ivory black, cadmium red (light), yellow ochre. For a blue hue you use ivory black + tit white, for a green hue you use ivory black + yellow ochre. Mess around with this pallet a lot to see how you like the medium and you can then go and expand on colours.

>>7703944
No one's going to find you from algorithm void if you don't know how to build following, what makes people find and pick up new artists.

I feel like Howie, I took time off work to go NEET for a bit, grind fundamentals but I can't do more than 1 hour of practice I day. I should be doing 8 hours, this is pathetic.

>>7704021
Howie's rise up. We exist and our struggles are valid.

>j-just be a nowie
OK but how?

>>7704021
Tomorrow when you start drawing, unplug your internet connection. Only allow yourself draw. You are not allowed to go online to find references or anything else because it leads you here to scroll mindlessly. Sit down, don't allow yourself to get distracted and fucking draw.

>>7704021
The most productive i ever was - was when I had a desk job, where I had about 2 hours of "work" a day and the rest of the day I was free to my own devices

But it was a big public office - so I couldn't play video games, I couldn't go on my phone - so I studied game development
By the end of the year I had gone from zero experience to winning a game jam

There's a lot to be said about being in public spaces - go to a library and force yourself to be in the right learning environment

So uh, how're the britbongs nowadays? Still drawing and posting their work or is 4chan completely bongfree?

>>7700557
I have no interest in influencing art direction or something like that, i’d be down for bug fixes or something. it’s up to you

>>7700548
nice

>>7704092
I appreciate the offer anon. I think I got things figured out though. I think my best bet is just to dump my game on RPG codex and let the boomers tear it apart. All of my steam traffic comes from Russia, Ukraine and Italy anyway.

I miss drawing for 7+ hours. Now I can barely draw for 2 hours before I have to stop and doomscroll/jack off for an equal amount of time or I go mad. There's something inside me that hates the idea of being productive without a proportionate reward. Now I understand why old people don't give a fuck anymore

>>7704021
going from doing nothing to being productive is a huge jump, much bigger than going from your job to your hobby. Neets have to start from 0 and create their own motivation and schedule, wagies have all that sorted out for them by society.

>>7700378
are you 12?

when I wake up I know instantly if I'm going to be drawing that day or not. I can't draw unless I'm in the mood and have good motivation too, otherwise my drawings will be shit.

>>7704572
Not him but you've ever seen the Chinese farms? We are going to die as a human race in the next 100 years thanks to greed.

Anyways, drawing or something

>>7703049
Normies generally think of monochrome to be 'unfinished' drawings unless you have Berserk levels of hatching covering the entire page.

>>7704610
Same. I never figured out how to make this state happen more frequently

I want to quit my shitty job to become a portrait/genre/classical artist. But fear kills me.
Do any serious working artists actually come to this website? I see some people talking about jobs they work on but I always thought this board was just complete shitters like myself.

>>7704720
rly pretty.

>>7704720
>Do any serious working artists actually come to this website?

Maybe lurking but if you are serious working artist, why would you tie your work and artist persona to this shit hole.

And yeah, fear is the mind killer. If you let it dictate your path, you will never make it.

>>7700548
>I just want people to see my art.
Print it off and paste it in a public space. Put it on a t-shirt and wear it.

I have begun NMA as a longtime beg. I have mixed feelings, but I will finally get "art school" off of my bucket list.

>>7704720
NMA is supposed to have a supportive community for serious people. Dunno how well it works in practice.

>>7704801
NMA has the worst artists, you can join their Discord and see for yourself.

>>7704813
It's a business, beginners are the biggest market so there will always be a lot of them.

>>7704865
I haven't really looked into it a lot, but it really seems tailored to the pretentious permabegs who are more interested in being seen as an artist than being an artist.

>>7704865
You don't want a bunch of /begs/ critiquing you. Watts has a server now and their teachers chime in sometimes.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT BRUSH TO USE AND IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!!!!! FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>7704879
For line art you use G-pen. Config the particular G-pen to your liking. For sketching you use pencil brush, preferably charcoal pencil for more cloudy and more flowing lines, and as with G-pen you first modify it to your liking. You can also use pencil brush for lineart if you want the lines to breathe more. Also consider sketching with different colors for better grasp and maybe doing rough color to block the different parts.

Make your tools work for your intended purpose

i started to paint some murals, and posted a video an it got some attention. 10k views and 400 likes on ig. now i feel because a lot of people on my city are aware of those murals and the risk of someone scratching them is higher.
i wanted the attention but not from people of my city, now i gotta reap what i sow

>>7704910
i think they'd notice a fucking mural no matter what anon

>>7704918
nah, i used a very subtle color palette, and they are on an area where people only walk by. they have to be looking at it to notice them

>>7704910
>but not from people of my city
Then why did you draw a mural in your city

>>7704928
for them to be discovered by a handful of people, and for practice

>>7704929
sovl and cute

>>7704931
thank you

>>7704027
>>7704053
I should've followed your advice and unplugged/went to the library, I'll set my alarm for tomorrow and try to be at the library before the crackheads plague it.
>>7704349
I have/had a job, the moment I took time off, I collapse, guess have to build it up from zero again.

>>7704939
>When you see a KFC

>>7704968
That's pretty funny. I get it because it's a depiction of a Black person and you were making a cultural reference.

>>7704929
>>7704937
>>7704939
>>7704940
Cool! What did you use to paint these? Did you have to do it quickly to avoid getting caught(?) or do you come back in sessions

>>7704975
i asked for permission to the owners. i paint one or two hours a day.
i used red, orange, black and white paint. it's a paint for exterior walls and streetart. the name of the material is something like this
“Esmalte al agua” in English is usually translated as water-based enamel.

Esmalte enamel paint (a type of paint with a hard, glossy or satin finish).

Al agua water-based (the solvent is water instead of chemical solvents).

the name of the brand i use is krack but it's commercialized in chile. i don't know what brands produce paintings for murals worldwide

>>7704990
Gorgeous murals my man. The attention will be good, I'm sure you can submit a portfolio to city council and get some official work. Eventually local businesses will just hire you to paint their buildings. Keep us posted on your journey

Any other failures here? I keep falling short of my goals. Nothing seems to be going right. At least I have food I guess.

I need to stop mentally beating myself up for making fanart or publicly expressing interest in anything in general.

>>7705139
be happy

>>7705139
Keep failing. It is part of the process. The part to mastery. I know it is a struggle, often it feels like it is near impossible, and it feels so far away, but if you keep working at it, there's a chance, you can succeed. That's what all artists had gone through, the successful ones and the failed ones. I'm still failing, let's keep failing together, and one day, we will make it! Trust the process.

>>7705129
Yeah kinda, just procrastinating on finishing projects, I know I can do it... I just don't.

>>7705139
I was in the same boat, still kinda am. Been getting over the fact that I don't need to impress people with my likes or dislikes and that it is ok to enjoy things that are childish/lame. Just remember that Disney adults still exist.

Has any random piece of trivia ever changed the way you draw certain things? For instance, after learning that the button placement on men's and women's shirts differs, I now ensure that I draw them correctly. I've also read that the shape of a person's ears is unique to them, but I haven't dared to take that into account when drawing.

Captcha won't load for me on making threads, it just crashes, can someone make one for me.

>>7705241
Pipes and cables will almost always come in sets of two or more, because anything that goes in needs to eventually come out.

Everything is reflective, no exceptions.

Most things need to be assembled, sometimes disassembled.

The color and value range of physical media is significantly narrower than on a screen.

Don't reinvent the wheel.

>get a little bit attention for my art
>new followers
I thought I would enjoy it but instead it just makes me want to delete my account. I am not made for social media.

>>7705465
Why?

Dang. I thought animating would translate to gainz in my regular drawing ability but it really doesn't.

how the fuck do people draw beautiful and appealing drawings that are messier than my well constructed turds? What am I supposed to do, erase part of my drawing?

All of drawing is just memorization. there's no actual intuition or skill or creativity. Good artists just memorize every pose in every angle and avoid drawing stuff they didn't memorize. I give up.

>>7705586
mental illness, weak mindset.
Wouldn't help giving advice to such people, they are doomed.

>>7705892
proof that it isn't that easy:
>>>7705892

and if you look at real finished work and not just character art you'll realize you're even more wrong.

And if you reply to say that even those works are technically based on memory, realize that everything else we do or create is based on memory. Nothing new under the sun.

>>7705887
Sketchy works let the viewer's mind work for the best possible outcome. Hard lines and defined shapes limit the potential. Less is more. I recommend you do one layer of inital sketch and then second layer to do the final, viewable sketch on top of it. You need to determine which lines are important to show, which are allowed to be messier, which more defined and which to omit. When you want line gone for real, use hard eraser 100%, when you want to leave hint of the line use softer eraser with lower than 100%

>>7705887
Because they're better than you. Knowledge doesn't make good drawings, experience does.

Alright, so tracing - bad from the perspective of intellectual property infringement, but if I trace enough will I retain technique? Been tracing for waifu requests, the hair specifically because from reference I just make tendrils.

>>7705930
So long as you do it with intent, tracing can be a good thing. You gain muscle memory and how specific movements feel when you trace then you try to reproduce that without tracing.

>>7705930
it's okay at building basic hand-eye coordination skills and for breaking down a reference, like de-constructing a figure, anatomy tracings or figuring out the perspective of an image, tracing to correct something you can't figure out, tracing to check proportions etc.
but you won't retain much unless you test yourself by trying to do it again without tracing. worksheets for learning handwriting have fewer and fewer guidelines until you can do it without tracing.
tracing can easily become a mindless activity where you don't learn anything. so keep that in mind unless you want to just spin your wheels.

I've definitely quit art out of frustration and because I am ashamed of all the years I've wasted procrastinating and comparing myself to other artists who now are lightyears beyond me in terms of both skill and popularity. What other hobbies do you recommend picking off now that I'm a certified failed artist? I'm considering writing and general literature

>>7705977
Drawing is the easy hobby. Writing is hard and takes way more time to practice.

>>7705977
>I am ashamed of all the years I've wasted procrastinating and comparing myself to other artists who now are lightyears beyond me in terms of both skill and popularity.
why would a new hobby change that? you should probably sort yourself out first.

>>7705990
There aren't author equivalents of le based twitter coom artist purely because fanfiction writers don't get notoriety

>>7705994
Try writing a novel or novella. Like anywhere from 30k to 60k words. You'll see if you have a knack for it. Oh and it'll probably be shit but you learn how to be less shit. Though unless you're writing Litrpg/isekai sloppa there's a decent chance no one will actually give a shit if you go the webnovel route, and Tradpublshing is a nightmare.

>>7706136
It's over for tradpublishing. If people think there's a lot of AI art slop, there's an even bigger iceberg of writing slop. So many people are "writing" by throwing their stream of consciousness into an AI writing app. It seems impossible to stand out unless through nepotism or money.

>>7705986
i enjoy this recent meme.

>>7705977
>I've definitely quit art out of frustration and because I am ashamed of all the years I've wasted procrastinating and comparing myself to other artists who now are lightyears beyond me in terms of both skill and popularity.

I'm quitting at 35, I'll be 31 next month, though I realize that I'm more of a late bloomer in everything. Idk what I will do, If I fail, I tried living like a normal person and that really sucks- sex is great but it sucks.

I do miss my old art friends though, we could laugh, talk shit about each other and not take it personally, shame they've all disappeared years ago.

>What other hobbies do you recommend picking off now that I'm a certified failed artist? I'm considering writing and general literature

Idk why I do this but listening to certain people breakdown things while I draw is theraputic at times, lately I've been listening to Brandon Sanderson lectures on writing and he's like you have to write the same book like 5 times and study certain author's writing styles, etc. Sounds a lot like drawing to me only with words.

Drawing for 30 minutes is the same for me as drawing for 5 hours. In both cases I put my full effort into the drawing and I'm wiped at the end, so they both take up the same amout of time. If I draw for 30 minutes I'm burnt out for the next 4 hours anyways, so drawing for just a few minutes doesn't make sense. I have to wait until I have enough stamina points to start a 5 hour session.

>>7705586
I guess mental illness like the other anon said. It makes me nervous when I think about people looking at my art.
I am doing my best not to nuke it all. I will stay strong.

>>7706150
I don't know if it's really a meme, more like people are starting to read actual books again and realize just how bad the average amateur/fanfic is.

>>7699278 (OP)
I dont think using AI ro make draws is morally bad and the people that see a great piece but hate it when they are told that it was made using AI are fags

>>7706539
>buys a sculpture from etsy
>look i made this
>thats awesome
>later finds out they just bought it
>retard
>but you liked it when i said i made it!!!
I don't know how you retards think this way. It's a crazy way of thinking.

>>7704929
>>7704937
>>7704939
>>7704940
super cute

>>7706544
You do the AI images, they dont come out of nowhere, you have to put from yourself to make them exist
>"But muh its only put a prompt its so easy and fast tob be considered art"
Digital art has a lot more facilities than trad art and for a lot of time digital artist had to endure being called "fake artists" by tradfags. So where do you write the line? How much work do i have to put into a piece to be called genuine art? What if a trad piece takes an hours to make but i spent 4 days working into a piece made with AI that looks better, now that i spent more time i have your approval? Because if its for a matter of work put into drawing doesnt take a particular physical exaustion, its more of a creative burn. And if you are minimally perfectionist the AI wont give you exactly what you want how you want it. And even if it did, isnt better for the artist? To be able to put his creative mind into fast results?

>>7706574
I didn't read any of that. Indian food makes me have indigestion.

Where to get the confidence they have?
pre/beg/s selling courses?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0Z8nSyP7FM

>>7706574
>You do the AI images, they dont come out of nowhere
nta, but you also have to search for a sculpture in the etsy searchbar... which is akin to prompting.

>>7706616
Confidence or lack of shame? I don't think they have confidence at all. Homeless people taking a shit in the Ikea isn't confidence.

>>7706574
I have more respect for people who take screenshots of Daz3D

>>7706574
>>7706539
Based. People on /ic/ suffer from a mix of sunk cost fallacy and jealous outrage. It must be maddening to spend years of your life learning to draw just to be shown up by another artist who can achieve better results with less time spent and more technical savvy.

The important thing is to not let these crabs try to convince you not to use this technology. No rules, only tools. If you learn and embrace AI, you will eventually be doing commissions and getting jobs over these Luddite dinosaurs

I'm feeling really bad about myself today. At some point i blamed my laziness for my bad art, and in a sense i still do, but i think depression is the real problem. It sucks that i can only get myself to draw at night when my mood is at its lowest

How do I stop myself from being sooooo eager to post as soon as I finish a drawing

>>7706862
just do it, why not

>>7706862
your brain is screaming for dopamine and validation
get it from any other source, or just tell it to shut the fuck up

>>7706881
I misworded it, should be posting a WIP. Posting WIPs imo is bad for a lot of reasons
>>7706893
No other way to it eh?

>>7706290
>I have to wait until I have enough stamina points to start a 5 hour session.

Or you could learn to power through the fatigue until that second wind hits and levels you up... but that's pain and you're afraid of that.

>>7707015
I did that a lot in my 20s. now in my thirites I'm tired of having to open the eight gates just to draw

>previous drawing I posted on pixiv got 23 likes at 130 views
>my newest drawing has 110 views with 4 likes

I didn't know my art quality varied that much

>spent 12 hours a on a drawing
>meh
>spent 24 hours on a drawing
>meh
>spent 36 hours on a drawing
>ranked in pixiv
Secret to success.

>>7707019
>I did that a lot in my 20s.

Then maybe you should learn to draw more efficiently so it isn't so taxing on your brain. Like zone 2 jogging,

This board is full of people who don't draw, but they tried starting a lot so they're emotionally invested in the space.

>>7706638
not really, why would anyone comission an ai artist if they can do it themselves? Whatever skill you think you have using ai is worthless, even the more 'complicated' stuff can be packaged in a neat UI by some tech corpo, for example, nano banana. Yeah, your workflow and loras are cool and all but this tool can take whatever artwork I like and turn it into whatever I desire

>>7706574
ai artist cope as much as regular artists, it seems

>>7699278 (OP)
How do you get a job in traditional inking illustration nowadays, I've been building a portfolio but that's all. I wish it was the 70s and I was part of some collective group of illustrators and comic artists

>>7707045
Subject and tags matter.

How come when you see a western artist who explicitly has "I love anime" or something equivalent in their profile bio, their artwork never reflects that, it's always a western cartoon artstyle or it's always them drawing their favorite anime characters but fundamentally changing the character design by altering their skin color or ethnicity etc.
Meanwhile you have japanese artists who would say "I love Disney/cartoons/south park/etc." and 9/10 they draw faithfully to the art style and character design.
Like so many western artists seem to have this vibe of "yeah my favorite thing is X, but here's fanart of what I think would make it better, in MY vision" whereas japanese artists almost always seem to give off this impression that their fanart shows that they genuinely love and admire whatever it is they are drawing.

>>7707191
westerners want to stand out, being individual(in their head, not often in reality). in japan, they want to conform, so that includes style

>>7707191
Because people who actually like anime realize that the country of origin of the cartoon doesn't really reflect it's quality or content. It's like saying you like video games made in America. It's nonsense. Any actual fan would say they like games from Activision, or anime from Miyazaki. Because they realize that's a distinction that needs to be made.

Also, westerners treat their bio like fashion. It's not actually reflective of who they are, it's a collection of trendy buzz words to make them feel special.

>>7707181
all my drawings of women have a much higher like to view ratio than my drawings of men. idk if it's because drawings of girls just get more likes in general or if I'm just better at drawing women than men

>>7707195
It's the former. Men don't get good likes unless they're femboys.

>>7707196
does that mean my drawings of men are the true reflection of my art skill?

>>7707197
Not really, no

>>7707195
>>7707197
No. People are more likely to view, click open and fav art of females. You can draw master level males but they still get less views and likes than beg level women. No one cares about your skill level if there's no one to see it.

How many inspiration artists should be the minimum. I have too many I'd name probably going to include everyone I follow on twitter

>>7707209
Why do you need to name them?

>>7707210
i like making lists

WRIST HURTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>7707215
I don't think conforming to your own autistic vices are going to help you in any meaningful way

>>7707221
worked for me

>>7707191
individualist vs conformist culture.

>>7707191
>japanese artists who would say "I love Disney/cartoons/south park/etc." and 9/10 they draw faithfully to the art style and character design
>South Park
What? The westaboos make South Park look like anime all the time. The Creek episode shows the Asians making fanart that are visibly not in the South Park art style.

>>7706638
Based. The anti AI bros are like the boomers saying that the phone makes you dumb, its a tool. Its up to you if you use it smart or let your brain rot with tiktoks. The same applies with AI.

>>7707171
And why is that a bad thing? I mean yeah, is bad for the artist because they live out of this lmao but why would you refuse to use that tool? Isnt a tool that makes you able to do something that only some experts were able to do a good thing? Because i dont think people that are against AI are refusing to use fridges and buying ice from the "ice men".

Its called progress, some works become obsolete and its natural. You dont see people nowadays working at jobs like milkman, lamplighter, elevator operator, etc. Wheter this is a good or bad thing its another discussion, my point is that its a natural course in life, and try to stop it is meaningless.

With that said i also want to say that i dont think the job of artist is gonna dissapear because we have AIs that can make it for us faster and cheaper. Homemade products always have a space and are highly demanded by people that dont want company manufactered products. Saying that AIs will replace artist is like saying that MCdonlas or microwave food will replace restaurants, its stupid.

why do AI bros always suck each other off

>>7706638
>>7707311
As AI exists now, its not good for much other than goonbait, or perhaps generating inspiration/references. There's basically no worthwhile with control mechanism with most commercial AI image generators. With stuff like Stable Diffusion, ControlNets kinda give you that control but even with that you will always, and I mean always, will need to have the painting skills to go over and clean up the artifacts, or truly make the image what you had in mind.

Anyway, AI won't replace shit, anything that it did replace already happened as the technology has been stalling since DALLE2/SD1.5, as we have well and truly entered the diminishing returns era.

>>7707311
>If you learn and embrace AI, you will eventually be doing commissions and getting jobs over these Luddite dinosaurs

I never said it was a bad thing, I just pointed out that your moronic opinion about getting commissions and jobs is wrong, since anyone can use these tools and obtain good results

>>7707345
Clueless. Frankly, it's better this way though. Less competition.

>>7699278 (OP)
how do you guys get commissions? do i need to start grifting and sucking up to other small artists on twitter in the hopes that they follow me back and i get into their circle?

>>7707396
Most my comms come frome DeviantArt. Brand yourself, show what's your niche/subject, post to Pixiv, DeviantArt, Twitter, Instagram, NewGrounds and Tumblr and make yourself an E-hentai gallery. Your skill level doesn't matter as much as you knowing your genre. If artists of same genre host Discord servers, join them and show your art.

Use tags in Pixiv, DA and NewGrounds. They need to be your fetish/genre, the character name and the series they come from.

t. been drawing for 4 years and last 3 years my comm queue hasn't been empty

>>7699278 (OP)
Is it even worth selling your soul to the fiverr kikes?

>>7706574
>>7706539
>>7706638
>>7707311
> same tired retarded arguments on why we should consoom AI slop
> t. brown hands wrote these
Hello saars.

>>7707411
nta but I draw a lot of coom so I can't post a good chunk of my work on deviantart. Is pixiv and twitter my only hope?

>>7707959
Stop that. You can post coom to DA. Just don't have it be rapeish or young characters. Press the x on the Mature when you post it. Got it? The Mature tab. You need to use it.

For no-no subjects make yourself Premium gallery with either one time payment or monthly payment. To set up Premium gallery, you need Core. I can gift you one for month. Even after it runs out you withold all the galleries or items you had set up and can post more images to already set up galleries, you simply can't make new ones until you buy Core. Never buy Core on full price, always simply check the Core list and wait and the site will offer you -50% discount in few days.

And yes you need to post to variety sites. I post Deviant Art, Pixiv, Twitter, NewGrounds, Instagram and Tumblr. Sites have different rules so abide them. Link your more lenient sites in profile. Don't say: "Uncensored version here". Just link them. The users will know where to check your gallery that allows everything: E-hentai.

>>7707959
Pixiv requires you to censor genitals.

I hate drawing. And I KNOW you know you do too.

>>7708054
I just searched some lewd art on deviant and most of it is censored and there isn't any straight up porn like what I draw which is why I never bothered to post it

>>7708087
Nah I don't, but it was always my goal to get to that point. My problem is distraction there's always something better to do than focus as hard as you can then get you teeth knocked in from your ambition and lack of skill. That being said doing art is always so fun!

>>7708087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewHVHPGS_LU

>>7708235
When you have depression you don't enjoy anything. The world is a complete mess. Sitting down and drawing is retarded.
Go and buy yourself a gun and shoot up some mosque. That would be way more reasonable.

>>7708237
Well I hope things will get better for you :(

>>7708237
>When you have depression you don't enjoy anything.

I have depression, right now - I'm on the more optimistic outskirts of it right now, but I find myself more drawn to art because everything is shit when I'm deeper in depression. When I hit that apathetic state I can finally be consistent enough to see through a painting it's the best! No distracting myself with other things (I can do without the crying in the shower part though). It's like when you have the flu or something, you're not thinking about girls, other social problems going on in life, etc. You're more concerned with getting better, the lack of apetite makes you eat less so coming out of it you feel great compared to before and you've lost some weight as a bonus.

>>7708278
When you are really depressed you don't feel like doing anything. When you are physically sick you also don't feel like drawing. Depression is the same.

For sfw artists, the best options for money are catering to women or towards people who want physical paintings

>>7708298
Any hope in doing ink drawings?

>>7708278
When I draw, I get depressed, and throw myself on my bed.

I can't wrap my head around the Loomis method at all, it feels so restrictive and I find myself focusing too much on the construction itself and not the unique features that the model may have.
I've started trying the Bridgman method albeit with a looser construction, using tools like a scale divider to keep the proportions accurate and every seems to be a lot easier and my faces especially look like they represent what I'm trying to replicate.
Am I missing out on important/core fundamentals by 'skipping' a lot of the construction phase in portraiture or is it a case of 'whatever works, works' if I feel like I'm making progress? I don't want to cripple myself in the future is all picking up 'bad' habits.

>>7708319
you don't really need a 'method'. teachers don't intend for you to adopt their exact construction. gaining awareness/internalization of simplified forms for construction is the goal.

>>7708087
i hate drawing at the beginning and end of something. in the middle when you're flowing it's like sex

>>7708319
An eye for proportions is something you develop with time and practice. Try drawing from observation not worrying much about construction and without a scale divider. Just you, your pencil and your subject. It will look bad, but the point is not the drawing, it's training your eyes.

If you don't have an eye for the volumes on a face how are you supposed to make sense of other artist's construction methods?

Make a bad drawing to feel the form first and then try to apply the methods you're studying

I don't want to exercise to relieve back pain

>>7708361
have a hot shower

>>7707345
Yeah exactly thats what i said lol. A non artist can use the AI but since it doesnt have an artist criteria it will look like shit, thats why you have so many disney-esque shitty AI images around. AI its a tool for artist, it can make the work easier for avergaes but the results wont be good even if you use the smartest and most powerful AI out there, its the human creative mind the one that can make the AI give good results, not the other way around. Just look at civitai front page and there are absolute great works in there.

And about the gooner sloop well i dont mind it, sometimes you want to see porn of a obscure character and all the human porn is either beg or non existent, so hey there is at least 1 one thing that AI made our lifes easier lol

>>7707367
I didnt say that it was the other anon but ok lmao

>>7707935
Im not saying u should consume them but ok man you do you

The water cooler smells like shit again.

>>7708460
artists using AI*

AI used by a non-artist will still generate crap. We are seeing job loss due to AI across all relevant markets. Job that requires 10 coders can now be done with 5 + AI. Law firms that needed 5 paralegals can now do 2 + AI. And we've already seen AI photobashed art come out of major companies. A job that required 5 artists will now only need 3 + AI.

That's only the tip of the iceberg. There are gen alpha/beta kids who will grow up with these tools and use them so effortlessly that they will have double the productivity of older technologically impaired workers. The future will only continue trending in this direction.

>>7708480
I just got a new gpu and dude It's so fucking over it's not even funny. Be glad the technology is cucked behind a paywall that's too high for the average SEAtard. We went from really stiff models with artists porportions slapped on them to actual drawings.

>>7708485
I watched a video of a guy creating a semi-3D model just from an illustration. It was some flat 2D anime shaded image, and it turned it into something you could rotate.

It was only after 10 years of applied box practice that I felt adept at perspective and rotating things. I'm going to get cucked so hard by some kid who spent 2 years practicing boxes and then just using AI. It's depressing, but the only thing we can do at this point is accelerate. Make these methods widely known, and develop them faster so everyone can use them with ease. I don't want to fiddle with lora models or whatever, someone just make a step by step youtube video and an easy to use app for me.

>>7708499
the method of typing text into a box? lmao. Drawing is mental sport that happens in real time, the industry is already dead, i'm never going to support products that use AI or people that use AI.

>>7708618
farm commissions from the high-functioning ones that make bank in software engineering and shit

>>7708618
w..what did you expected? Time to grind the emotional intelligence

>>7708618
I thought this was just art (the only people dumb enough to spend money on art are hyper nerds with a tech job) but it turns out it's every field. You have to deal with the most obnoxious human beings in order to take their money and it sucks.

>>7708499
3D modelling is way older than 10 years and people are still learning perspective

People have been able to download 3d models for free since ever, way before AI

If you enjoy something, keep doing it

>>7708760
Gif source?

I cant draw because a fly is bothering me and I can't kill it

>>7708898
git gud, use AOE attacks

I didn't want to spend 2 minutes setting up my tablet and CSP just to draw one line to fix something in 3 seconds, so I spent ten minutes fixing it with a mouse.

>>7708618
Like, hyper autistic into the world building or HIS ARMS ARE NOT BLUE style hyper autistic? Cause the former are precious.
There was one guy who'd comment on my webnovel with semi-regularity and that lil nigga kept me going.

>>7709306
Die, my friend.

>>7709308
I'm not your friend, guy

>buy brand new power supply from Corsair with new 5070ti
>good to go for a week
>randomly turns off and won't turn back
>scorch marks on the bottom of the pins
>Cintiq bricked too
>lost 3 days of work
Client is gonna be big mad but I'm more mad about the Cintiq. Like it was old but fuck me man

>>7709330
Oof.

>>7709330
This post was sponsored by EVGA

>>7709386
EVGA can suck a dick too. I bought a DOA mobo from them back in 2010

>>7709330
>My PSU blew out August 6th and I replaced it yesterday with a EVGA 750 or something. I'm so happy it didn't fry my motherboard because I have zero backups...

Had to resort to using brush pens for 3 weeks and it surprisingly improved my accuracy on my old intuous. Having to have a light touch and not being able to mess up translated.

water > oil

>>7709648
water >>>>>> pokemon creatures

I can only draw one session per day so I make it a long one. If I take a break then I'm out of "charges" and have to do nothing for 24 hours before I can draw again.

>designing outfit
>gather references. many pics
>i drew trash
Everyone says to use references but how? Do they actually mean photobashing and literally copying?

>>7709723
Do you look at the references when you constructing/sketching them into your pic? Do you have good eye and taste for creating designs in the first place? Who is the everyone?

How about you post the design and the refrences?

im scared of starting the next layer

>>7709809
Elaborate

almost 2 years and Im just now finding out about ateliers, I wasted so much time trying to figure out stuff by gluing chink courses even tho i couldn't understand what they were saying. how did I know bargue but not ateliers fuck im retarded.

>>7709753
>Do you look at the references when you constructing/sketching them into your pic?
Yes of course
>Do you have good eye and taste for creating designs in the first place?
Well now I know I don't
>Who is the everyone?
Every youtuber apparently.
>pyw
It's just bad and tasteless beg tier attempt.

How can I improve or develop an 'eye for designs'? I'm thinking of practicing drawing designs I like as is instead of coming up with my own to maybe build my visual library. Would this work?

>>7709877
who cares about youtubers, chances are they dont have character designs yhou love, just copy designs from artists whose designs you like, dont use random ass pictures for now. do that later

> practicing drawing designs I like as is instead of coming up with my own to maybe build my visual library
yes

>>7709821
Made a grisaille and now need to apply colour. Why the fuck do I have to wait 2 mins for replying in every thread.

>>7709877
Well yeah, it helps that you pick up designs you like. Go bit further and explain to yourself WHY you like them, what makes them good in your eyes. If you can analyze what makes some particular style and design good to you, you have easier time making up your own and understand what makes them good for you and how to incorporate them and what you want to adjust.

I honestly don't know what you meant by youtubers. Did bunch of youtubers comment on yours or did you simply not get any reaction/interaction for yours?

why does my brain see the 3 minutes it takes to set up my drawing station as agonizingly long?

>>7710262
mine does it cause I got ADHD. Starting a drawing is always the hardest part for me

>>7708480
> law firms using AI is normal
> implying this is a good thing
All we needed to know to realize you are retarded.

I have so many different characters in different poses I want to draw that I can't decide which one I want to draw next

I've been getting some DMs from people asking if I could draw them if they model for me lately. Are they just sharing nudes for the love of the game or am I getting played at somehow?

>>7711403
Probably some variant of the OnlyFans bots

>>7711423
See that's the weird part, I don't see any links to OF or verified accounts or anything like that. Just chatting up people and modelling for free art apparently

>>7711429
You can push it and see where it goes if you want.

There's zero risk to responding to DMs, just don't click any links

>>7711432
I don't really mind it, but I am more curious if it's actually a common thing to get nudes once your art gets to a certain level. I always try to exercise basic internet safety too

>>7711403
They simply get off on the attention and yes that's a thing apparently

if something is going to take longer than 2 hours to draw, I just don't do it. If I can draw it in an hour, then I end up polishing it for another hour because its shit, so either way I end up spending at least 2 hours on it.

>>7712223
Gronald Blumpf won.

>>7712223
The real secret is that neither side wants artistic freedom.

>About to finish a big project
>realize I'm probably going to finish it right on cheeseburger remembrance day
Damn, might just postpone releasing this by like, a week after. Don't think would people care, but I don't want put in all this work, just for it to be the 9/11 submission
Gives me a little more time to polish a few final things anyways

The real secret is that there was never artistic freedom.
Artistic freedom was always and only used as a buzzword in favor of porn and to shield it from any criticism.

You shat in your plate, and now you're complaining your breath smells like shit.

>Join art Disc
>Most the people there are /beg/s that are significantly worse than me
>None of them give critique, even when I ask, even for opinions on specific stuff. Just compliments and pats.
That's okay maybe we can be friends
>Can't connect with them at all because I can't use VC
>Any time I type on chat I feel like I'm getting shut down / shushed away (one word responses or :thumbsup:)
>every Disc I join seems to have some impenetrable in-group and then a haze of silent lurkers/no-draws

This fucking sucks
How do people even make art friends anymore? It was so simple way back when... DeviantArt groups, chatrooms, OC art trades.

Cant draw because lonely. Drawing is a solitary activity that will only increase my lonely. Want friends, want draw, feel terrible all the time because do neither. Cant friends because people only want you to mirror and validate their views but no one cares to reciprocate. How fix?

>>7712941
Reach out to artist who draw similar subjects

>>7712909
I don't see a reason to talk to artists. If they're better than you then you're wasting their time. If you're better, then you have nothing to learn from them. Art is a solitary activity anyways it's between you and the paper.

Your problem as to why you can't make any friends is that you obviously want someone to be useful to your e-career and that is also a carbon copy of you who yesmans you and has the exact same thoughts as you, not friends.

I thought I was done with anonymous venting, but here I am. In 2025 I've made a lot of good changes: fixed my diet, solved my insomnia, started walking every day, quit caffeine, quit sugar, and quit wasting time online. I got my drawing tablet out and began sketching again, and I'm just... defeated. When I make stuff, my brain just doesn't produce chemicals to reward me. It only says, "Hey, you just burned through a lot of energy. How about going on youtube or having a snack to get it back?" Even when I play video games, it's like this. When I beat a boss in Elden Ring, it could have taken 2 hours and 30 attempts, but all my brain says is, "Wow you burned through a lot of energy!" and I feel nothing. If I work through it, then within 90 minutes I need to take a nap and wake up so exhausted I can't go any further.

I'm not going to monitor this thread for replies, because I'm too old to rely on strangers for help, and I don't think any of you will have my answer. I just wish people were kinder. Everyone is going through their own battle, and there's no need for you to be so mean and critical to someone. People don't always flourish when you kick them while they're down. You're not responsible for their success in life, or anyone's success but your own, but life is so hard I just wish we could all not make it even harder. That's all

>>7713179
>but all my brain says is, "Wow you burned through a lot of energy!" and I feel nothing
>I'm too old to rely on strangers for help
>I'm too old

Found your problem right there. After 30, the dopamine reward you get from everything just drops off and you have to shift from chasing the happy juice to more subtle feelings like peace or a nice sunset. The people you're upset at for being unreasonable havent reached this point yet. They still think that winning an argument or shitting on some retard is worth anything because it gives them a little dopamine hit. "Ha! I win this argument on a semantic technicality, that means I'm better than someone I feel good!" They have no idea that all that is worthless because it still gives them the brain juice. But it runs dry eventually and all you're left with is reality completely unfiltered if you're lucky. If you're delusional then you get a whole other can of "why me" worms as you suffer needlessly under the stress of your own actions.

Anyway just take it easy and try to achieve what the younger you would have wanted for you. In a small way you'll be making them happy

>>7713179
This isn't about age or energy at all, it's about bad habits. When you do something you consider big (cue) your response is to go to more passive activities that doesn't require that much work for a reward. You've taught your body that is the correct response to doing something you consider impressive. Also if you've just quit caffeine you're going to be more tired, drugs take a toll on you and caffeine monster keeps track of its debt.

The next step is to try to get yourself to do more active hobbies instead of passive stop binging videos and eating start participating in groups and taking on more challenges that will leave you more fulfilled.

I drew a Umamusume and it only got two likes. I think I should focus on just one fandom, since, for example, I drew a Vtuber and it got several likes and reposts. But I don't know what to prioritize. I've been drawing for two years and would eventually like to open commissions, but I'm afraid I'm not at the level to get clients yet. I'm not looking to become a millionaire, but I do want to have a source of income that will eventually allow me to live just enough.
I'm sharing the Uma drawing I made.

>>7712909
I can be your /beg/friend!

>hmm this next week I'm going to draw 4 pieces!
>drawing just one gets dragged out for days
fuck

>>7713901
You posting on just Twitter or do you use other sites too?

>change nothing
>screen tablet behaves differently next time I start my computer
oh my fucking god, make it stop

>>7714194
Only Twitter, I don't like Facebook or Instagram, I was thinking about creating an account on Pixiv but I see that many people in the West speak badly of that place

>>7714254
Check Pixiv for yourself. If you draw naughty drawings, you need to censor genitals. Use tags, because people find you and your art them. DA brings me the most comms. Use tags there too if you try it.

I have seriously begun learning art 2 years ago, but I have noticed that I am most productive when I am in a public space, e.g. university, library etc. When I am at home I mostly rot around my bed. As a result, my knowledge of art has been so fragmented despite doing it for so long.

>>7713179
normally I'd say the solution is love, but there are people with happy families that still murder-suicide so there is no pleasing the human brain.

In what ways has your country or culture influenced your art? Personally, I've only felt influenced by my country/culture when I've tried to draw inspiration from it. It doesn't happen naturally.

>>7714506
Thankfully in no way.

The hardest part about drawing is getting the creative energy to actually start. If I don't have that, then I literally cannot draw. Muh discipline doesn't work, you can't draw something creative and soulful if you have zero interest in what you are drawing. Everything you draw has to be out of desire, so if you're forcing yourself to draw then that's not really making art, let alone anything good.

>>7714275
Can I ask your opinion about the drawing? I showed it in another thread, but there were hardly any responses. I've been drawing for a year and a half, and I suffered from carpal tunnel syndrome. It still hurts, not as much anymore, but it's something I think I have to live with.

>>7714684
Flat, messy, unappealing. Don't use lines just to tell the outline of the character and objects, use the lines to convoy mass, form, angle and so on. Face needs appeal, study anime faces, especially eyes. Hands are your second faces, have hands tell more about the mood and character and the situation

You got potential, grind your fundies, pick up pencil sketching to practice for more lively poses, expression and gesture.

it's frustrating

why the fuck is it so hard to JUST DRAW??? My brain is moving mountains just to find a reason to not draw, and I actually LOVE drawing. I would rather sit and stare at a wall for hours than draw sometimes.

>>7704720
>portrait/genre/classical artist
try selling you art and how much you can make off of that. Then compare it to your shitty job.

>>7712226
I know, I voted for him
>>7712228
yeah but the old side wanted the artistic freedom I wanted as well. I don't care about going niggerniggernigger in my art as much as I care about drawing whatever character whatever age I fucking want it to be

I have a full playlist of songs that never fails to make me draw and draw well for the duration of my chosen song and thereafter. You must have that for yourself as well.

>>7715312
I draw well when I find an entertaining playthrough of a game to listen to while I draw
FF7 remakwa were great for this, practically a 60hr movie that you don't have to focus on at all.

Anyone here does japanese immersion while drawing? (passive listening)

>>7714582
>>7715143
I only draw something once every 6 months because I have the same problem

>>7715431
like japanese livestreams or cafe sounds?

>>7715529
Livestreams, or anyone speaking in japanese

>>7715582
NTA, that sounds like a fun idea but I'd have to use subs to understand what they're saying which would really distract from the drawz

welp i just whacked it to my own drawings twice today
i've never drawn so many human figures haha

People don't seem to like my actual art and prefer it when it's drawn in any other specific style but the way I actually draw.

Why is it a daily coinflip if I'm going to draw halfway decent

>>7716273
You body is a random(not really) cocktail(blood) of what you did the past 3 days(or more) and the more bullshit you pump into it in terms of toxins and bad food, lacking sleep, lacking exercise over working, stress etc etc. It all gets into your blood and wears you down in various ways. Also maybe you just neglected your warm up exercises. (But I did those!) Well don't worry it could be any of those other things or even none of them.

But even with all that in mind, showing up at all is better than giving up and every yesterday you input good habits will change your mind and body is subtle ways it's not possible to recognize in any scale but years at a time. You're transforming all the time into who you decide to become with your actions. Everything matters so choose well and work diligently.

Any of you here employed in the art field? How did you get your job any advice?