Thread 519353888

Is racism based on skin color or culture?

racism is based on race.
culture is a product of race
low iq retards will produce shit cultures.
conviently for us, they all just happen to be brown.
God warning us?

>>519353888 (OP)
Low elo racism is skin only
High elo racism also knows the shitskin's culture to deliver accurate trashtalk.

>>519353888 (OP)
And smell. Don't forget the smell.

>>519353888 (OP)
It's based on race. All attributes of it.

>>519353888 (OP)
It's based on races.

>>519354759
>smell
i was thinking about this just this evening
>some nigger in the shop with way to cologne on
>passes for human
>if niggers couldnt leverage white mans cologne, they would QUICKLY repulse everyone, which is the right reaction.

>>519354341
Low elo racism is the norm
The left is racist against jews now because they have white skin
Now jews are desperately trying to undo all the anti white racism

>>519354285
You have it backwards. The concept of 'race' is a relatively modern social construct created to justify the material conditions of slavery and colonialism. Culture isn't a product of race, both are products of much deeper material and historical factors. To believe otherwise is to subscribe to a debunked, idealist fantasy.

>>519353888 (OP)
Racism based on skin color as it is now is pretty recent in regard of human history. Europe has several ethnicity despite the same skin color and there was several case of racism between each other (see Irish, Scots, Slav, etc...)
Just in my country there was racism againts people from different region (Britanny, Occitans, Savoyard, Auvergnat...) with people from the time having /pol/ tier rants about them.

>>519354285
IQ scores are a reflection of material conditions like nutrition and education, not innate intelligence. Every 'great' civilization in history was once 'primitive.' The difference in technological development isn't due to IQ, but to historical contingencies of geography, resource availability, and the accumulation of knowledge. Judging entire cultures as 'shit' is just a sign of your own historical illiteracy and Eurocentric bias.

>>519354285
It's not a coincidence, it's a consequence. The wealth and stability of the West were built on the material exploitation of the 'brown' world through colonialism and imperialism. Their poverty is the direct mirror image of our wealth. To then turn around and blame their condition on their skin colour is the pinnacle of historical illiteracy and bad faith. You're blaming the victim for the wounds we inflicted

>>519354285
Invoking 'God' is what you do when you have no material or historical argument. It's a way of pretending that the messy, exploitative history of colonialism never happened and that the current global order is a natural, divine plan instead of a man-made system of exploitation. It's the last refuge of a bankrupt ideology.

>>519355272
Your right,
if it wasnt for socioeconomic factors, pitbulls would be just as lovely and smart as golden retrievers.

>>519353888 (OP)
Culture. If a black or indian person behave like others, nobody cares.

>>519355118
kill yourself, retard
fucking pseudo spewing bullshit that everyone with 2 eyes can see its false

muh colonism! like the africans or spics were living wonderful lifes and singing kumbaya before europeans got there. gtfo retard

>>519355118
>>519355272
gay and retarded
consider killing yourself, respectfully

>>519353888 (OP)
Xenophobia is culture based.

>>519353888 (OP)
It's based on race you fucktard, genetics, the core foundation of your being that dictates everything about you.

>>519353888 (OP)
HE JUST DON'T MISS

>>519355368
Africans never built boats lol
And india was always poo central
Populations always rise up to a natural level, look at MENAs/huuehues

>>519355272
It's both. You can't simply deny genetics. We're not all in the same level when we're born. African poor countries are at big disadvantage because of culture, economics and genetics. They should fix culture first though.

>>519355424
Ive only got one thing to say to an Aye

>>519353888 (OP)
Race is what you are, culture is what you do.

The former is senseless to punish, the latter is literally The example of what is punishable, as everything punishable is an act (whereby active inaction exists too).

So racism is inherently about the former, whereas judging someone for what they do is precisely what proper and just judgement is meant to do.

>>519353888 (OP)
>noticed
both

>>519355118
Archeologists can tell where a historic person was from based on their skeleton. Black people need different blood transfusions to white people. AI is able to tell whether na xray is from a black person. Many Asians can't digest milk. Whatever you disingenuous leftists want to call this, most people call this race.

>>519355671
There's also the issue of health issues arising from overexposure and underexposure to sunlight.

I've seen blacks, wherher dark sandniggers, indians, actual niggers or abbos, they all suffer tremendously in the long dark winters here.

>>519355671
>>519355810
Hell even the "white" sandniggers turn grey under the dimmed winter sunlight.
Pretty sure that's what makes / made jews so vulnerable to schizophrenia back when they were still primarily brown here.

>>519355671
Correct, because skeletal features show geographic variation. But this is a gradient, not a set of boxes. They can identify probable ancestry, not assign a 'race.' This doesn't help you distinguish a 'white' Sicilian from a 'white' Syrian, or a Tamil from a Ethiopian, because your racial categories are too crude to capture the actual, continuous nature of human biological variation.

>>519356043
Aye, but shifting them to i.e. Cardiff makes them stand out permanently.

>>519353888 (OP)
For me its genetics.
But the definition of racism varies depending on who youre talking to

>>519355671
You're falling for the correlation/causation error. Medicine and AI see statistical trends across socially defined groups and use that as a practical shortcut. The fact that sickle cell anemia is correlated with ancestry from malaria-prone regions (including parts of Africa, Asia, and Southern Europe) doesn't mean 'Black race' causes it. It means a specific genetic adaptation has a higher frequency in certain populations. You're mistaking a useful statistical proxy for a biological essence

>>519356091
So?

>>519356224
Except such variations is exactly what races in either definition consist of.
We're white up here because the niggers grow mad from lack of sunlight.
Similarly the seasonal nature of life and higher dependance on non-vegetable food sources here demands higher IQ (planning capacity primarily) than food-dense regions.

>>519356308
Sothere's no racism involved in noticing they don't fit in and likely never will.

>>519356308
>>519356354
And that their maladaptation to the environment to the environment will ever cease hampering them.

>>519356224
>the unique atributes that belong to an exclusive group have got nothing to do with race
Ayy LMAO
The dumbest alien in the galaxy. they kicked you out of your planet didnt they

P.S. no one believes a word of your leftist bunk.

>>519356414
Not fitting in' isn't a law of nature; it's a product of social conditions. When a society erects material barriers like housing discrimination, job market prejudice, and cultural hostility, it creates the very isolation it then points to as 'proof' of a group's inherent otherness. This is a self fulfilling prophecy, not an objective observation. The only 'maladaptation' here is your understanding of history. The idea that any group is permanently handicapped is absurd. Human history is the story of adaptation. Your ancestors were likely considered 'maladapted barbarians' by a more advanced civilization at some point.
The 'environment' that hampers people today is the global capitalist order, which was built by systematically underdeveloping their home countries through colonialism and now maintains barriers through unequal trade and finance. You're blaming them for struggling in a race where you started them 500 meters behind the starting line and then claim their struggle is proof of their inherent slowness.

Why do the eu money go to pyromaniac crime prevention?

How is this harder than buying the fire department a new truck

>>519356669
Yes it is, it's literal survival of the fittest for a reason.

But thanks for showcasing that you're spouting quasireligious ideological convictions out from under a thin cover scientific pretense.

But do enjoy this best argument against racism:
If we managed to teach a gorilla sign language by saving it from the degenerative influences of its culture and faith, well how hard can niggers really be once we acknowledge the issue of their cultures and faiths.

And if you insist that the niggers recreate the weakness that caused us to casually walk over them then by all means help us recreate our colonial history by getting them to re-afflict themselves so.
We never needed to be superior for them to be inferior.

>>519356669
their slowness is evident, even when the "starting line" (wealth) is equal.

>>519356927
You're not making points, you're just parroting the most clichéd, edgy script from the internet. It's unoriginal and intellectually lazy. This is just a word salad of hateful clichés. You can't even form a coherent argument, just slurs and fantasies. This isn't the bold truth-telling you think it is. It's just you failing, very loudly, at basic reasoning

>>519356946
You just proved the opposite. If wealth were the true 'starting line,' the gap would disappear. The fact that it persists at every level proves the starting line isn't just wealth it's also generational wealth, school funding, and systemic bias. How convenient that your only takeaway from a chart showing universal disparity is to blame the test-takers, and not the test, the schools, or the 400 years of history that created the conditions. The data shows a correlation. You jumping to a conclusion of inherent 'slowness' says more about your reasoning skills than it does about the scores

>>519353888 (OP)

Race is based on relative socio-economic status in a colonial/post colonial world. Whose relativity is judged adjacent to descent from Europeans who colonised and enslaved non-european people's. Racism is both the ideological justification and resulting attitude arising from that enslavement.

This is precisely why upper cast hindus may be considered more "white adjacent" even though such a definition of cast never existed in pre-colonial India. And the Irish and Italian may be considered "less white" or not white at all compared to germanics because they were not colonisers and infact the Irish were colonised.

>Is racism based
Yes.

>>519357799
Generational wealth is such a retard take. It only applies to the upper classes, not the middle and lower classes. It's like the left comes up with these ideas in the vacuum between their ears, but doesn't actually look at the world outside or doesn't actually examine anyone or anything in the real world.

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>>519357799
>Facts and logic on my /pol/

Wtf is going on ayynon

>>519358689
'Generational wealth only applies to the upper classes' is a fantasy. For the middle class, wealth is home equity. Decades of government-backed redlining explicitly prevented Black families from buying homes in appreciating neighbourhoods, denying them the primary tool for building middle class wealth to pass down. This isn't a 'vacuum' idea, it's documented history.

>>519353888 (OP)
>Is racism based on skin color or culture?

Racism is based on race, not skin color, there are people of similar color but different races. It can go as far as ethnicity, as there can be same colored people of clearly different ethnicities.

Discrimination based on culture may be either xenophobia (if there's no cultural incompatibility) or simply a cultural clash (these two cultures and laws are incompatible)

>>519353888 (OP)
Both.
I dont like you because youre a nigger op
Your brown skin is gross to me, i cannot tell if youre clean but you sure dont smell clean.
But the culture aspect is where i really dont like you.

sus hair
>>519355272
>IQ scores are a reflection of material conditions like nutrition and education,
it's 80% genetic past the age of 18. Sure, diet can hinder it, but that's not really the main factor. blacks in usa don't have deficiency in calories, yet they score low. There's reasearch which compares whites from poor families to blacks from rich families and blacks still score low

>>519358770
We out here doing bad shit nigga

>>519355118
Oh, look, a retarded subhuman.

>>519355272
General intelligence is mostly innate. If you don't see this in your daily life, you're sub 90 IQ. Sorry for your loss

>>519358958
You're confusing 'heritability' with 'genetically determined.' Heritability just measures variation within a specific population in a specific environment. It doesn't mean 80% of an individual's intelligence is set by genes, nor does it explain average differences between groups raised under vastly different historical and systemic conditions.
If you take a seed with high genetic potential for growth and plant it in depleted soil, while planting a average seed in rich soil, the second plant will be taller. That doesn't tell you anything about the genetic limits of the first seed it tells you the environment matters. The 'rich soil' of a society includes generations of access to quality education, freedom from toxic stress, and non-predatory financial systems, all factors systematically denied to Black Americans.

>>519359096
If it were 'mostly innate,' civilizational achievement wouldn't have shifted between regions across history. The same human DNA produced 'barbarians' and philosophers depending on material conditions and knowledge accumulation. Your static view of intelligence is ahistorical and naive.

>>519355272
>>519355368
>whites were more successful because they lucked into resource rich regions, unlike niggers!
>but also they built their empires on all the resources they stole from niggers!
lmao
rofl

>>519359222
>>519358689

Geneticism is teleological anyway. Therefore it is not a argument. Ask a racist to point it to the specific gene which causes higher iq or lower iq and he'll fumble and fall.

By the way there is no such thing as a "white high iq gene" or a "black low iq gene". Genes are just genes.

>>519359378

If whites were indeed the "superior race" (which is as you pointed out an idealist fantasy) then they would've invented space travel 5000 years ago when they first appeared

>>519353888 (OP)
It’s always funny to see stupid white filth rationalize lighter skin as a desire to be orange

>>519359403
>euroaches are so great because they built everything
>euroaches never built anything themselves

>>519359403
Your logic is circular and self-serving. First you claim inherent superiority due to geography, then you credit that same 'superiority' to the act of colonial theft. You're using the result of historical violence (stolen resources) as the cause of the success that enabled the violence. It's a just-so story designed to make you feel better about history's brutality.

>>519356224
They are not socially defined. What is socially defined about the geographical region they are from?
They straight up taught us to treat different races differently based on their geographic ethnicity. Not unequally, but Asians don't have the 3 extra heart disease/diabetes risk factors black people do.
I work with competetive athletes now tho. Mostly swimmers golfers and wrestlers tho so mostly whites.

>>519359378
Nah, it comes from working in retail for 20+ years and watching kids grow up. Some people got it out of the box and some don't. Watching one brother be a genius and another dumb as a box of rocks. If you had low IQ parents, sorry, you're more than likely going to be low IQ
You will act like your parents
Walk like them
Talk like them
I've seen it recently with a friend who's father left at a young age and only recently reconnected 20+ years later. Their vocal cadence, volume level, and walk, actions are similar.

The blank slate is an absolute midwit take and you've never examined real people in your life, if you believe that dumb shit

>>519359868
You're confusing ancestry with race. Medicine uses ancestral geography to find statistical health risks—like how we screen Ashkenazi Jews for Tay-Sachs, or Northern Europeans for cystic fibrosis. We don't call them different races.
'Race' is the social system that lumps all people with dark skin into 'Black,' whether their ancestry is Nigerian, Haitian, or Aboriginal Australian, despite their vastly different geographies and genetic profiles. You're using a medical proxy for ancestry to justify a crude social stereotype.
Your athlete example proves my point. If 'race' was a real biological category, why are the world's best distance runners from East Africa, while the best sprinters are from West Africa? They're both socially classified as 'Black,' but their athletic traits are specific to their ancestral geography, not their race. The fact you work with athletes and don't see this is startling

>>519359989
You've described the powerful effects of environment and social learning perfectly, then somehow credited it all to genetics. A child 'walking and talking' like their parents is the definition of a social and environmental influence, not a genetic one. You've disproven your own point while trying to make it.

>>519353888 (OP)
That's the whole issue of "whiteness"; white is a caste system. Sure, to the white nationalist, there's a sense of "anglo sphere" unity, but it isn't practical. It's based off of purity, so it's more about white presenting, but it all depends on how specific you're choosing to be at the moment. The same thing happens in Mexico, a caste system built around supporting those with lighter skin.

>>519353888 (OP)
It should be based on the latter, but far too often is based off the former.

>>519353888 (OP)
Where sus

>>519360314

As it turns out, the only thing common between people who are classified as brown/black is that they are historic (and present) victims of colonialism.

Nevermind I see it now

>>519353888 (OP)
Why does he always put sus near the center now. Searching for it isn't fun anymore

>>519353888 (OP)
>Is racism based on skin color or culture?
Yes.

>>519354903
Happens with me too.

>>519360492
No you stupid faggot. The child was separated from their father at like 1 years old and now after not seeing each other for 20+ years, the similarities are striking
The dad had no direct influence on how they were raised and yet....they are similar in so many ways, i.e. genetics.
God I hate you fucking midwits

>>519359222
>all factors systematically denied to Black Americans.
cope harder
I presented you with example that proves you wrong. There's other research similar to it, for example blacks being raised by white parents. Look it up.
Chinks were as starved or worse than africans, yet they've managed to create functioning society

>>519360717
We're at the point where the fucking Irish, who were colonized for like 800 years, are being told they need to "come to terms with their unearned White privilege and the inherent colonalism of their White culture".
You'll never once see the term "indigenous Europeans" used.

>>519355272
Is nutrition, education and resource availability the reason I'm not an Olympic champion sprinter?

>>519361069
Also, culture is a product of race and genetics. It's downstream.

>>519355121
True. Same with USA. It’s Midwest vs Sunbelt vs New England vs West vs West Coast. Even states are trying to amplify rivalries. Like Minnesota rivalry with Wisconsin is legendary but Dakotas tried in recent years to jump in.

>>519353888 (OP)
These are not independent you know. People who have lived in the same area for a long time, look similar, act similar and sound similar.

>>519360717
Exactly. You've hit the nail on the head. The concept of a unified 'Black' or 'brown' race across continents was forged in the fires of colonial violence. It lumped together incredibly diverse peoples (a Yoruba king, a Hindu priest, an Aboriginal elder) into a single category of 'other' to justify their subjugation and exploitation. You're describing the material origin of racial categorization.

>>519355435
Listen you dumb boomerang nigger he didn’t say socioeconomic factors. He said environmental. You live in a place that’s the same climate all year around you probably ain’t gonna develop much of a sense of time. And if you’re able to just eat literally everything that moves or grows all year round you wouldn’t learn to farm due to no need for it. Hell I don’t think you understand farming given you copy pasted some Reddit tier response about shit you clearly don’t know what is or understand. Niggers are stupid. Case in point you. But not because we didn’t potty train them or give them welfare. Africa did that. Well maybe some Jewish slave traders eugenics too but again that’s environmental.

Actually it's based on lookism.

Racism is just a form of lookism. Black people have ugly features so they're bad.

>>519353888 (OP)
I would say it's based on race. Color-based and culture-based dehumanization are colorism and culturism respectively, but not racism.

>>519361069

Ironically enough if there's any european people's whose "whiteness" was put to question, it's the Irish. Thus kinda proving my point.

Though it is undeniable that the Irish (and American Irish descendents) do systematically benefit from their white adjacency and their geopolitical position in europe.
Atleast compared to their African descendant compatriots in those countries.

>>519354341
https://youtu.be/RBQ0WToKvQ4

>>519360996
You just described a powerful example of genetic influence (like height or nose shape) and mistakenly credited it to complex behaviours. Walking style and vocal cadence are learned. The fact you can't tell the difference between a mannerism and an instinct is the real 'midwit' take.

>>519361028
You're comparing two completely different historical traumas to prove a racial point, which is absurd. The 'functioning society' of East Asia was built on a foundation of thousands of years of uninterrupted civilizational development. The trauma of the trans-Atlantic slave trade was the deliberate, multi-generational destruction of society, culture, and family structure for the explicit purpose of economic exploitation. You're blaming the victim for the severity of their injury

>>519361073
Reductio ad absurdum. No, that's genetics. But it's the reason an Olympic-level genetic potential in the Mississippi Delta might never see a track, while a mediocre one in the suburbs gets private coaching. You're confusing the absolute limit of potential with the systemic denial of opportunity to reach it.

Hey britbong, what's with the ayys?

>>519353888 (OP)
It’s not and has never been skin colour, even though it is biological and physical, as well as behavioural and cultural.

If you turn a niggers skin white he’s still an ugly ape who good people don’t want around, turn a White man’s skin black and he’s still a functioning, civilised human being.

The skin colour thing has always been a leftist straw man.

>>519361840
Ah so when niggers are better at running that's genetics
but when niggers are dumb and emotional that's socio-economic factors?

>>519354285
>culture is a product of race
This.
Society is a racial construct. Different races have different societies. When you get into species differentiation, some species lack the ability for social development.

>>519361846
The aliens are a reminder to think dialectically on a planetary (and perhaps galactic) scale. If you can't even handle the material conditions of a different ethnicity on your own planet, you're not ready for the contradictions of interstellar society.

>>519353888 (OP)
Hair sus

>>519353888 (OP)
Lmfao, he should have added an Indian woman and two more panels were both Indians turn around and rape her

>>519361682
>muh generational trauma
Poles expirienced a lot of trauma during partitions. Yet I don't see them swinging from branches.
also africans in africa expirienced no trauma and there's not even one pure african society that's functional. There are a few semi functional, because they're mixed with arabs or meds

>>519361916
You're comparing a specific, high-heritability physical trait (fast twitch muscle fibers common in West African ancestry) with broad, complex social behaviours ('intelligence', 'emotion') that are massively shaped by environment. This is a false equivalence.

We use the same logic for everyone: Swedes are taller than Pygmies due to genetics, Swedes have higher literacy rates due to historical and economic factors. Applying this consistent logic isn't an excuse, it's basic science you're failing to grasp.

>>519355272
>nutrition
>feed Africans for 50+ years straight
>they’re still retarded
Whatever you say, sir.

>>519353888 (OP)
Yes either of those are fine

Btw is this guy using AI to write his posts? Someone check the dash thing.

>>519361279

You can take this argument and turn it on it's head. If the only thing uniting people in the "black/brown" identity is their position as victims of colonial exploitation. Then the only thing uniting the people classified as an "white" identity is their position as beneficiaries of the same system.

Which would mean that even identifying as a white person could be considered a subtle act of racism (as compared to the more overt white supremacy we see on /pol/) , unless it is done to acknowledge one's privelage.

>>519362180
So fast twitch muscle fibres are heritable but intelligence isn't?

>>519362160
This is so historically illiterate it's staggering.
The Partitions of Poland were a geopolitical tragedy for a state. The Trans Atlantic Slave Trade was a multi generational campaign of social destruction against entire peoples and cultures.
'No trauma in Africa'? You mean aside from the continent being literally carved up by foreign powers at the Berlin Conference, its resources extracted, its people enslaved and displaced, and its political systems deliberately destabilized for centuries?
Your argument isn't just wrong; it's a fantasy designed to blame the victim for the wounds of the colonizer."

>>519353888 (OP)
It’s both you nigger. Nothing in life is either or.

>>519362285
It's not contradictory, it's understanding different types of traits. Fast-twitch muscle fiber distribution is a specific, highly heritable physical trait. Intelligence is a complex, multifaceted cognitive capability that is massively shaped by environment, education, and opportunity.
Conflating the two is like saying 'steel is hard, therefore this soup should be hard.' You're confusing categories of things.

>>519362292
Mmmm sweetie you now when you use the term 'trade' it implies a transaction of goods and services for compensation, who sold the slaves?

>>519353888 (OP)
Racism is irrational so you can't really base it on anything but vibes and feelings.

>>519353888 (OP)
Funnily enough. Because whites are descended from the dominant Aryan caste that once ruled over India and the Caucasus region it might be that our own obsession with social hierarchy and race is not much different from Indians own obsession with it. There may even be a possible genetic predisposition for it.

Give this book a read for more details.

>>519362405
Cranial capacity isn't a specific highly heritable physical trait?

>>519353888 (OP)
racism is based on skin color. it's based on skin color because that is a biological trait that can be observed in the wild, and is therefore a good indicator of other traits that can be observed in the wild.

>>519362452
Calling it a 'trade' is an euphemism. It was a system of kidnapping and mass murder, fueled by European demand and guns. You're blaming people caught in a Mafia-style protection racket where the alternative to 'selling' their enemies was being killed or enslaved themselves for the existence of the Mafia.

>>519362515
Its not just cranial capacity you idiot its how dense the neural connections between synapses are. Elephants have a huge cranial capacity and they arent smarter than a chimp.

>>519354285
Why do Aussies take Arabs and Africans then?

They're the lowest races

Africans didn't even invent writing . Arabs are inbred angry animals

>>519362662
I think you vastly underestimate how cool gunpowder and tobacco were to African kangz

>>519362515
Cranial capacity is a heritable physical trait, like height. And just like height, it has a weak and unreliable correlation with intelligence within a normal healthy population. Brain structure, neural connectivity, and cortical folding are vastly more important than simple volume. By your logic, whales and elephants should be ruling the planet.

>>519362665
Elephants have a huge mass - cranial capacity to body mass ratio is a pretty good indicator.

>>519355272
Poor Indians are still smarter than rich Africans or Arabs or whites though

There's a beggar kid in India who will beat any rich kid in America in a maths test at this moment

ayy lmao i love you. CHUDS BTFO

>>519362617

Skin color is nothing more than a signifier. Racism will ALWAYS be about colonial exploitation. Because that's the source of the idea of race.

>>519362745
Aussies are dumb dicks who waste their lives watching footy all day

I hope the Arabs get you... You deserve it for being mean to Indians who are the smart good guys and antidote to Arabs

>>519362742
So niggers are just super humans who can run faster than white people due to their genetics but they're also just as smart?

Evolution wise, if you believe in the science of evolution, then no such thing as racism exists. Tribalism is an evolutionary survival trait that developed out of a protective trait toward your family group, clan, tribe, etc or your in groups failed because those humans who didn’t develop a sense of belonging, died and didn’t pass on their genes. Only those who felt a sense of protection toward their group, helped it survive the competition and attacks from other groups. This evolved trait would have started with the earliest hominids and it is is impossible to eradicate unless we go through another period of evolution -equally as long- where in-group protection is not necessary.

Only if you believe in a creator that made everyone as we are now, would racism makes sense. Otherwise it’s a group survival necessity.

>>519362292
>>519362662
>kidnapping
lmao, africans sold the slaves to slave merchants, idiot
and they did that before whitey came. various tribes enslaved each other
>The Partitions of Poland were a geopolitical tragedy for a state.
it was a tragedy and abuse of people. Not to mention, previous to this feudality was basically a slavery and with the same mechanism of humiliation of peasants, who were treated like live stock.

you're clueless

>>519362241
yeah, I've noticed that too

>>519362827
No. They are humans whose ancestral populations developed a statistical prevalence for certain physical traits, just like Northern Europeans have a prevalence for lactose tolerance.
Intelligence isn't a physical trait like a muscle fiber; it's a potential developed through education and opportunity. The fact you can't tell the difference is the root of your error.

>>519362934
Just like Northern Europeans have a prevalence for intelligence?

>>519362899
>Not to mention, previous to this feudality was basically a slavery and with the same mechanism of humiliation of peasants, who were treated like live stock.

Well there's a reason why "whiteness" of slavs is called to question regularly on /pol/. This has nothing to do with genetic ancestry. It's a purely social construct

>>519357799
no matter which way you cut it, black failed. with or without whites. and if life really did come "out of africa" then they giga failed, because they had 100,000 year head start, still never invented the wheel.

do tell us how thats whities fault

>>519358770
stfu you low iq dalit

>>519362934
Intellect is a genetically inheritable trait and blacks actually have less dense brains than whites

>>519362869
Thats always been the case. But the idea that groups must always be race based is flawed because the only thing that matters is that you personally and to a lesser extent your immediate family are passing on your genes. Outside of the industrial and agricultural age all humans mostly lived in very small tribes and clans whose membership was rather malleable based on new members joining or leaving. What changed between now and then was mass transit where it became possible for groups that would normally be separated by huge distances to intermingle. But the notion of owing alliance to a state or nation on the basis of genetic security is shakey at best.

There are no shortage of whites within their own nation even their own political party, undermining other whites and sabotaging or using them to secure genetic advantages for themselves. Think of all the people in your own life who engage in infidelity, one night stands, or having bastard children out of wedlock. They do not give a single fuck about your genetic survival, they are out for themselves and no one else.

>>519362971
Yeah, the same 'intelligence' that believed in humors and didn't bathe? Development is material, not magical. They industrialized first because of geography and plunder, not brainpower.

>>519363005
youre a stupid street shitter. go back

https://archive.org/details/codex-pajeet-1-2-3/Codex+Pajeet+1.mp4

>>519353888 (OP)
No racism don't exist.
Is all based on tribal instinct

>>519363233
That’s why Africans hadn’t invented the wheel by the 1600s?

>>519363241

>Arbitrary circles
>Predefined national coloring scheme

Lol retard

>>519362899
African slavery was not a perpetual, generational, race-based chattel system where your children were born into property status. The Transatlantic trade industrialized it, shipping over 12 million people to be literal capital.

>>519363191
You're citing 19th-century phrenology. Brain density? That's debunked racist pseudoscience. Modern genetics shows human populations are fundamentally the same. You're not being smart, you're being a relic.

>>519363365
>Arbitrary
only to a low iq crayon eating dalit like you.

>>519363233
You started off justifying the disparity in intelligence as a result of nutrition and education, but now you're denying that any such disparity exists at all?
What then were you referring to earlier?

>>519362971
Intelligence as a trait used to be associated with greater success in securing resources and passing on one's genes, but with modern technology and medicine and a lack of population bottlenecks and natural selectors Intelligence has become a superfluous trait. If passing on your genes is all that matters then strictly speaking some retarded nigger in africa with 10+ kids is more genetically successful than a white genius with only one kid.

It is because we live in such an artificial world that shields stupid people from the consequences of their actions that we now have reverse eugenics happening where low investment fast breeding idiots are flooding the world with their progeny and depleting the earth's resources in the most wasteful amd retarded way possible.

>>519359855
How can a tiny band of Spanish sail to the new world and take over 3 empires if they weren't already superior to the people they're conquering? How can the same happen in India, Africa, and parts of Asia if this wasn't so? Everywhere the colonists showed up they were massively outnumbered by the natives, and yet they kept winning. Why?

>>519363330
The wheel is useless without roads and draft animals, which geography denied much of Africa. Meanwhile, they were building empires of gold and universities in Timbuktu while Europe was wallowing in its own filth during the Dark Ages. Judging a continent by a single tool is the mark of a shallow, racist mind.

>>519363473
>My arbitrary circles are real
>Because.....because....
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAH
They really did send all the retards to stralia

>>519363536
They brought diseases that wiped out 90% of the population before a fight even started, and then exploited existing political divisions to play empires against each other. It was less a 'conquest' and more of a collapse they opportunistically finished off. Your version of history is a cartoon.

>>519354759
You aren't kidding. Alot of them just don't seem to like washing particularly younger guys. I had Indians tell me "Deodorant is same as shower".
Motherfucker hadn't showered for about 4 days and just dumped some Axe body spray on himself before work.

>>519363366
>African slavery was not a perpetual, generational, race-based chattel system
lol, how do you know?
also feudal system was just that

>>519363502
I'm denying a genetic disparity in potential. I'm pointing to a very real disparity in outcomes caused by material conditions. The fact that a malnourished kid with no schools scores lower on a test designed for well-fed rich kids doesn't tell you a thing about their brain's innate capacity. It tells you they're malnourished and uneducated. You're confusing the symptom with the cause.

>>519363536
A small organized minority can usually beat out a larger but unorganized and disunified majority.

Cite for example the game theory findings discovered through this social game

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(party_game)

Simple divide and conquer.

>>519363550
>to intelligent too build roads but here's El Dorado btw you can't come see it because there are no roads to get there

>>519362712
not by choice. believe me.

>>519363824
Is that the reason there wasn't any white sprinters in the 100M finals?
Malnourished and not enough training?

>>519363820
We know because we can read. African and Feudal slavery were systems of class and debt. You could often marry out of it or your children could be free. Race-based chattel slavery invented a permanent caste system where your skin was your bill of sale and your children were born as property. Equating the two is either profoundly ignorant or deliberately dishonest.

>>519363664

Right. And in case of India the locals were not all enslaved. Infact the British used local power structures to their advantage and the rulers in those structures actually benefitted under this system. Their presence alone was a result of centuries of trade and their conquest happened at a time of widespread political disarray.

It's all material conditions to the very end. White supremacy truly is a post hoc lie

>>519355455
>muh colonism! like the africans or spics were living wonderful lifes and singing kumbaya before europeans got there. gtfo retard

Facts anon.

Also since the colonisers have gone. What has improved?

Why is everyone engaging the chatgpt martian..

>>519363931
No, it's the reason there weren't any Black CEOs in 1950s America. You're pointing to a complex biomechanical outcome in a hyper-specific field to dismiss the impact of systemic poverty on general life outcomes. It's a cheap, dishonest comparison. If you genuinely can't see the difference between a voluntary, self-selecting sports event and centuries of enforced economic and educational deprivation, then you're not arguing in good faith.

>>519353888 (OP)
Genetic traits

>>519364101
You can't have it both ways big fella - niggers aren't superhuman.
If niggers are better at running due to genetics, whites are smart due to genetics.

>>519364083
>Also since the colonisers have gone

They haven't though

>>519354285
>culture is a product of race
culture is what people cultivate, i think it has something to do with geography like how in australia you have your crocodile dundees and all types of wildlife protectionism.. also protectionism of heritage is not racism

>>519363980
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slave-making_ant

Slavery is simply another strategy for resource and energy acquisition. There isnt even a moral argument against it. Whites stopped using slavery simply because the industrial revolution made it obsolete because machines and factories were more energy efficient. If there were ever a catastrophic event that turned the clock back on our technological progress you would see slavery come back so fast it would make your head spin.

>>519363980
Intermarriage between low caste blacks and high caste would result in ostricization and still does as these royal families have maintained these position today through nepotism

>>519364202
Your entire argument collapses because you're comparing a single physical trait to a vast concept of intelligence. It's like saying 'If birds are better at flying due to wings, then rocks are smarter due to geology.' It's a meaningless, stupid comparison. You're not a scientist; you're a racist trying to dress up your hatred with a pathetic excuse for logic.

>>519364217
>>Also since the colonisers have gone
>They haven't though

I don't see colonisers throwing trash into the rivers anon. I see native Indians destroying their own country.

>>519364346
>fast twitch muscle fibres is a single physical trait
>but cranial capacity isn't

>>519364314
You just perfectly described class power, not genetic superiority. 'Royal families' maintaining power through 'nepotism' and ostracizing outsiders is exactly how every aristocracy in history has worked, white, black, or Asian. You're making my point for me: social hierarchy is about protecting material wealth and status, not about some pure 'high caste' bloodline being genetically smarter or better. Thanks for the help.

>>519364346
>Your entire argument collapses because you're comparing a single physical trait to a vast concept of intelligence. It's like saying 'If birds are better at flying due to wings, then rocks are smarter due to geology.' It's a meaningless, stupid comparison. You're not a scientist; you're a racist trying to dress up your hatred with a pathetic excuse for logic.

How come you live in the west, instead of living in any of the 54 African countries anon?

Black people are just as capable as white people according to you.

>>519364083
If nigger spear chuckers could beat armed men in a war it would be contrary to any historic example so niggers lost before the fight begun because they were shit at war and backward.

>>519364013
Everything is a post hoc lie in the sense that we tack labels on them to explain natural phenomena that we dont fully comprehend at the time. Caste systems and hierarchies arent inherently good or bad they simply represent just another strategy for resource acquisition and how a group makes use of resources to propagate its genetics.

Its in the masters best interest to maintain a system of dominance and its in the slaves best interest to destroy that system of dominance. Neither is right or wrong they simply act in their own self interest.

>>519355118
i'm very sorry that you're a nigger

>>519364466
One is a functional explanation for athletic performance, and the other is a 19th-century racist myth that has been completely debunked. Brain size doesn't correlate with intelligence any more than liver size correlates with wisdom. You're not citing science, you're citing phrenology

>>519364101

It can also be argued that the barrier to entry when it comes to sports is different compared to the barriers in case of iq tests.

Very basic inputs like good nutrition anc practice can help you achieve your full running potential. While you need a base level of education and stable family/economic environment to be able to perform well in iq tests. Something black people were systematically denied.

>>519362747
>76 IQ
>we are smart saar
troll smarter anon

>>519364557
>Brain size doesn't correlate with intelligence

Why are humans more intelligent than monkeys then?

>>519364310
>Bristool

>>519364487
That's like asking a Jew in 1930s Germany 'If you're so equal, why don't you just leave?' It's a pathetic attempt to use the result of colonial underdevelopment as proof that the underdevelopment was justified. I live in the West for the same reason your ancestors stole the resources that built it: because global power dynamics, created by colonialism, make it a more stable place to live. My presence here is a testament to that history, not a refutation of equality.

>>519364519

I don't think anyone is trying to make a moral argument here. Only pointing out the fact that race realism and white supremacy is not ontologically grounded

>>519364603
>Something black people were systematically denied.

Denied by Indians who used black people for slavery anon.

>>519355272
>The difference in technological development isn't due to IQ, but to historical contingencies of geography, resource availability
Why were lower-class Briish criminals able to move halfway around the world and turn Australia (a mostly desert island) into one of the world's most advanced nations?

>>519355368
>The wealth and stability of the West were built on the material exploitation of the 'brown' world through colonialism and imperialism.
The West was far more advanced than brown countries before we every visited them.

>>519356043
>Correct, because skeletal features show geographic variation. But this is a gradient, not a set of boxes.
Colors are a gradient too, does that mean that red and blue don't exist? Or that they are too "crude"?

>>519356224
>It means a specific genetic adaptation has a higher frequency in certain populations. You're mistaking a useful statistical proxy for a biological essence
What do you call the accumulation of thousands of genetic adaptations based on different evolutionary environments? You call it a race.

>>519357799
>The fact that it persists at every level proves the starting line isn't just wealth it's also generational wealth, school funding, and systemic bias.
Or, y'know, INHERENT DIFFERENCES.

tl;dr- Kill yourself you nigger-loving commie faggot.

>>519364660
We're a different species. That's like asking 'why is a car faster than a bicycle?' and using it to argue that some bicycles are inherently superior to others. You're comparing millions of years of evolutionary divergence to superficial differences within a single, interconnected species. It's a stupid, bad-faith argument that reveals you don't understand basic biology.

>>519364801
What are the differences between our species which cause the disparity in intelligence?

>>519364737

Privelaged Indians participated in the British colonial empire. That's a fact

It's kind of funny how race realist act smug while posting the most retarded and redundant arguments and think it's some kind of a gotcha.

>>519364689
>That's like asking a Jew in 1930s Germany 'If you're so equal, why don't you just leave?' It's a pathetic attempt to use the result of colonial underdevelopment as proof that the underdevelopment was justified. I live in the West for the same reason your ancestors stole the resources that built it: because global power dynamics, created by colonialism, make it a more stable place to live. My presence here is a testament to that history, not a refutation of equality.

Your words and your actions are diametrically opposed.

Your actions prove that white people are superior as you want to live around them, you want to use white people's inventions, white peoples infrastructure, live in the houses that white people built. So your retarded word salad excuse isn't fooling anyone.

Money talks and bullshit walks.

>>519363550
>The wheel is useless without roads
do you think roads are a natural part of europe and asia, but africa had bad luck?
just so you know, mr. niggle, raods and streets need to be build, they do not spawn by gods grace
>draft animals
what are elefants and zebras? the first horses in eurasia weren't the tall beasts we can see today. animal husbandry requires work over generations and since niggers can't think five minutes ahead, they are incapable of it
all in all, the only work niggers engage in, is the rationalization of why they are just as smart and good as white people, without success i might add

>>519364801
Reminder (You) share 50% DNA with bananas

>>519364727
Indeed. But as with most things in life the surface reasons behind what is done hardly matters compared to the ends of those means. People make fallacious arguments about everything, especially so when they stand to benefit from it. People can justify anything of they have an interest in it. And at the end of the day word games mean nothing compared to being able to carry out your will by force. Violence and war, the threat of death; are the real masters behind everything in the world. All of the words and fancy arguments we make are simply the veneer we use to hide that fact.

>>519353888 (OP)
lighter indian first panel hair

>>519355272
>>519355272
>>519355368
>>519355424

Wrong

>>519365011
We should give bananas half a vote to ensure their interests are properly represented

>>519363536
They were not superior. They were illiterate religious fanatics who routinely burned each other alive in ritual human sacrifices to their god Jesus Christ. They destroyed and looted the most developed part of Europe, Al-Andalus. Stole all the shiny things, smashed and burned everything else. The only field they were superior in was their resistance to plagues, because the streets of their primitive iron age towns were literally drowned in human feces. They brought their bad hygiene and their plagues to the civilizations of the new world, and infected millions. Stole the shiny things again, smashed all the non-shiny. That's all.

>>519364796
You're listing the results of 500 years of global plunder and calling it 'innate genius.' Australia was built with British capital, land stolen from Aboriginals, and resources shipped to a global market. Your 'advanced West' was built on gold from the Americas, rubber from the Congo, and spices from India. You're pointing to the loot and crediting the thief's DNA. It's a childish understanding of history. For most of human history, Europe was a backwater compared to the centres of civilization in China, the Middle East, and India.

Yes, red and blue exist as points on a spectrum, but nobody builds social systems, creates laws, or distributes wealth based on a person's wavelength. "Race" is the social and political process of drawing arbitrary lines on that human gradient (e.g., the "one-drop rule") to create hierarchical groups. The lines are not based on consistent genetic logic, they are based on historical power relations.

Your entire argument is circular. You point to the current wealth and power of the West which was built through a unique and brutal confluence of material factors like colonialism and the industrial revolution and you use that outcome as proof of an innate superiority that you claim caused the outcome. It's a just-so story that ignores 95% of actual history to flatter your own ego. The science of genetics and the study of history have left your 19th-century racial theories behind.

>>519363664
kek, they did the same what the english did in india
they were better rulers for the average shitskin
just look at south africa. explicitly racist white people governed better over the niggers than the niggers could do for themselves
95% of indios were enslaved by the mexica (aztecs) and were very happy to join those bearded alien warriors

>>519361307
Yes retard the environment is the primary driver of evolution

You think you made some profound statement?
Niggers are retarded and with no impulse control because they adapted to sub saharan Africa over hundreds of thousands of years


Environment + long periods of time = genetics - - > culture - - > environment + longs periods of time =.........

They are thousands of years behind the rest of the world that has been mixing, adapting and evolving through civilization for hundreds of thousands of years

>>519364881
The difference is that we're a different species. Our brains are physically larger, more complex, and have a radically developed prefrontal cortex. This isn't a minor statistical variation it's a fundamental biological divergence over millions of years. Comparing this to the tiny, superficial genetic differences within humanity is like comparing the difference between a car and a bicycle to the difference between a red car and a blue car. It's a category error you're making to prop up a racist fairy-tale.

your precious niggers lack the ability to become smart regardless of nutrition due to genes

>>519363444
>Modern genetics shows human populations are fundamentally the same.
They show the complete opposite, and you were just using genetics to argue why Africans are better runners. You're trying to claim that genetics has nothing to do with intelligence because "it's psuedoscience", but you demand we accept your "science" to justify equality. You're no different than a Catholic arguing why some writings are canon and some are heresy, with no proof other than your word.

>>519365176
Kinda crazy to think instead of engaging in pedophilia, muzzrats would be building moonbases right now if not for heckin reconquista chudos

>>519362305
This picture proves that "races" in humans don't exist. You can see a lot of mixing and overlapping.

also fpbp
>>519354285
at the end its all a reflection of genetics.

>>519365314
Yes the difference in cranial capacity between white people and niggers is smaller than the difference between white people and monkeys - congratulations.
Yes this also means that the difference in intelligence between white people and niggers is smaller than the difference in intelligence between white people and monkeys - this is true.

But the difference is still there nigger.

>>519353888 (OP)
mainly culture because it's their value system which form their countries.
just think about how racists asians are against other asian countries, same with aftrica or how european hate gipsy, slavs or how much balkan hate each other.

>>519364969
Your pride is the pride of the heir who inherited a fortune and then claims he's a 'self-made man.' You are standing on a mountain of loot and pointing to the height as proof of your climbing skill. My 'actions' don't prove your superiority. They are a testament to the devastating and lasting success of our ancestors' violence and greed. I am navigating the world they created through force, not through merit.

>>519365438
>this picture proves colours don't exist because we can see mixing and overlapping
Based retard.

>>519365189
>You're listing the results of 500 years of global plunder and calling it 'innate genius.' Australia was built with British capital, land stolen from Aboriginals, and resources shipped to a global market. Your 'advanced West' was built on gold from the Americas, rubber from the Congo, and spices from India. You're pointing to the loot and crediting the thief's DNA. It's a childish understanding of history. For most of human history, Europe was a backwater compared to the centres of civilization in China, the Middle East, and India.
>Yes, red and blue exist as points on a spectrum, but nobody builds social systems, creates laws, or distributes wealth based on a person's wavelength. "Race" is the social and political process of drawing arbitrary lines on that human gradient (e.g., the "one-drop rule") to create hierarchical groups. The lines are not based on consistent genetic logic, they are based on historical power relations.
>Your entire argument is circular. You point to the current wealth and power of the West which was built through a unique and brutal confluence of material factors like colonialism and the industrial revolution and you use that outcome as proof of an innate superiority that you claim caused the outcome. It's a just-so story that ignores 95% of actual history to flatter your own ego. The science of genetics and the study of history have left your 19th-century racial theories behind.

So white Europeans are so evil, yet you don't want to live without them.

You're very weird and creepy anon.

>>519365112
You're misreading this completely. This study doesn't prove intelligence is genetic; it proves that poverty and social exclusion are inherited. Immigrant kids don't magically carry the 'IQ of their homeland' in their DNA. They carry the material and social consequences of being an underclass

>>519365438
You are so fucking stupid it hurts. No shit nigger, there will be an overlap of lions and tigers if you put them on the same map. The are still different species but the same genus

>>519365328
You're confusing a specific, measurable physical trait with a vague, socially-constructed concept. I use genetics to explain a biomechanical advantage in sprinting because that's what the evidence supports. I reject it for 'intelligence' because there is zero evidence for a genetic racial basis for it, and mountains of evidence that it's a social construct. This isn't picking and choosing; it's following the data. Your argument is like saying 'You believe in physics for airplanes, so you must also believe in astrology for your love life.

>>519365274
Yes. What many people fail to realize is that because of the natural contingencies of the environment and organisms reacting to those contingencies that things will play out in mostly predestined ways. The opinions of men hardly matter to the forces and impetus of history.

>>519365625
>They carry the material and social consequences of being an underclass

So now you admit that they are inferior no matter what anon.

>>519363664
That was North America. In Mexico and South America, the Spanish fought against the empires at their height, before the pandemics hit.

Also not in India, the Portuguese and British had to contend with massive armies of locals. They repeated this performance nearly everywhere they went in the old world.

Disease goes both ways. Europeans got many diseases from the new world that spawned fresh epidemics, like syphilis, or that would kill off many of the explorers, like malaria or other tropical diseases.

>>519353888 (OP)
Culture and behavior, obviously. The idea that leople hate others simply based on the color of their skin is one of the oldest memes used to discredit racism and make it seem ridiculous. It's always been based on culture and behavior

>>519365625
> it proves that poverty and social exclusion are inherited.
LOST
>Immigrant kids don't magically carry the 'IQ of their homeland' in their DNA
yes faggot they DO. Its called genes. see >>519365319
>>519365400

>They carry the material and social consequences of being an underclass
Yet this fails to explain second or later generation immigrants?
Why are east asians (high IQ) sucessful yet others arent?

>>519353888 (OP)
72 football fields in MS Paint (Win98).

>>519365569
Criticizing a system you're forced to live in doesn't make you creepy; it makes you conscious. I criticize the company I work in, but I still need the paycheck. I criticize my slumlord, but I still need a roof. Your logic is that only people living in the woods without electricity are allowed to critique capitalism. It's the dumbest possible take, and you should be embarrassed for thinking it's a clever point.

>>519365625
You're trying to have a rational discussion with men who got banned from Stormfront for being retarded cunts. I'm not sure which of you is the greater fool.

>>519354285
There are plenty of white people producing shit culture too.

Reminder that modern genetic studies show that humans (whites) have a high enough aggregate/average genetic distance to modern day niggers that they would be classified as no just a different subspecies, but an a different species in any other animal. No amount of jewish pilpul about "muh hybrids create a gradient" will change that.

>>519365826
No. I'm admitting they are oppressed, not inferior. There's a fundamental difference you're either too stupid or too dishonest to understand. A plant grown in poor soil isn't an 'inferior plant,' it's a starved plant. A car with a sabotaged engine isn't an 'inferior car,' it's a sabotaged car. You look at the result of systemic theft and violence and call it 'inferiority.' That doesn't make you a realist; it makes you a cheerleader for the thieves.

>>519365911
>Criticizing a system you're forced to live in

You're not forced to live in it.

You're free to leave. You just don't want to leave because you don't want to leave white success for black or brown failure.

>>519353888 (OP)
ALL RACISM IS BASED

>>519366045
>You're free to leave
infact by now we WANT them to leave

>>519355118
>created to justify the material conditions of slavery and colonialism
Horseshit.
"We are the seed of Abraham" is two thousand years old.
Fucking retarded modern people who couln't survive without running water, a toilet, an aircon, a fridge and a TV bitching about "The material conditions of slavery and colonialism!"
The conditions experienced by slaves were little different than those experienced by anybody else before electricity, which wasn't invented until after slavery ended.

>>519365856
You're missing the point. It wasn't about Europeans being 'better warriors.' It was about them being better organized for imperial conquest and exploiting existing divisions. In Mexico, Cortés didn't defeat the Aztecs with 500 Spaniards; he did it by leading an army of tens of thousands of the Aztecs' own enemies. The 'massive armies' in India were never unified; the British spent centuries playing rival princes against each other. European success was a masterclass in divide-and-rule politics and global logistics, not a test of individual martial prowess or biological superiority.

>>519355272
Then why are niggers still stupid decades after being given free food and housing?

>>519366045
Your idea of 'freedom' is a joke. 'Free to leave' to go where? To the countries our ancestors impoverished through colonialism? My presence here isn't a tribute to 'white success'; it's a direct result of the global inequality that your ideology created. Telling me to 'go back' to the mess they you made is the most hypocritical statement imaginable. They built a system that hoards global opportunity and then mock people for being trapped in it.

>>519365552
>>519365655
You guys sound a little mad.

If you cross a German Shepherd with a Dachshund, the offspring is neither a pure German Shepherd nor a pure Dachshund. The same goes for 99% of humans.

>>519366297
Then move to Haiti my nigga

>>519365189
>"Race" is the social and political process of drawing arbitrary lines on that human gradient (e.g., the "one-drop rule") to create hierarchical groups. The lines are not based on consistent genetic logic, they are based on historical power relations.
The same applies to species, and words, and any other useful social construct.

>For most of human history, Europe was a backwater compared to the centres of civilization in China, the Middle East, and India.
When was that exactly? Prior to ancient Rome?
Or are you referring to the "golden age of Islam" which was mostly white Persians?

>Your entire argument is circular. You point to the current wealth and power of the West which was built through a unique and brutal confluence of material factors like colonialism and the industrial revolution
Whites have been the most advanced race since long before colonialism. Your only explanation for this is that whites developed in a more beneficial environment (actually, it's the opposite, harsh European winters exerted evolutionary pressure in favor of intelligence, sociability, etc.) but that doesn't mean we owe them anything.
If you don't think Whites are innately superior, then you either believe that Whites are uniquely exploitative and oppressive, or you believe that Whites have had a resource advantage, which is the opposite of reality- brown countries are tropical paradises compared to Europe.

>when you btfo the shill so hard he stops replying to you and focuses on easier targets

Why does this always happen to me.....

>>519366152
>The british spent centuries in India
The British arrived in India and Africa in the 1800s and left in the 1900s. Not even a hundred years of "colonialism", you useless lazy low IQ ignorant substrat. You're poor and stupid because your ancestors prioritized immediate gratification over planning and hard work.

>>519366125
>anyone who criticizes my beloved government needs to leave Austria

>>519366147
You've managed to pack an astonishing amount of ignorance into one paragraph.
Comparing slavery to pre-electricity life is morally bankrupt. The difference is choice and freedom. A peasant owned his own hut; a slave was property. A peasant could marry; slave families were torn apart and sold. This is the dumbest argument I've ever heard.
Modern comforts exist because of the scientific progress that slavery and colonialism funded. The industrial revolution was built on cotton picked by slaves.
Your entire point is a self-own: you're proving that the wealth and technology you take for granted was built on a foundation of brutality you're too privileged to understand.

>>519366337
Yes and if you mix blue and yellow you get green.
Yet I can show you my blue hat and ask you what colour it is and you'll say blue because colours fucking exist and basically you're just retarded.

>>519366029
>No. I'm admitting they are oppressed, not inferior

Many black people live in homogeneous ethnostates in Africa.

Liberia being an example. White people are not allowed to live there.

So why is Liberia a total dump? Who is oppressing the black people there when only black people are allowed to live there?

>>519366403
Jeet using chatbot can only work as fast as one hand can while the other masturbates to lolicon

>>519366337
And this means that neither Dachshund or German shepard exist cause they hecking overlap like on ze map!? Lmfao
>>519366297
>To the countries our ancestors impoverished through colonialism?
Like china? Or Iran? All of which are now successful? Do you know why? Cause they have high IQ and IQ is genetic

>>519365176
>They destroyed and looted the most developed part of Europe, Al-Andalus.
I thought we were anti-slavery in here! So the Europeans are savages because they destroyed an empire built on their enslavement? But they're also savages when they enslave others and build their own empire? I'm sensing a theme here.

>>519366432
You are missing the point so bad you killed my dog.
Browns are free to leave from our "opression". In fact, we want them to leave.
And speaking about our government, I want to kill my politicians for bringing in those low IQ shitskins

>>519366368
Yes, prior to Rome, and for centuries after its fall. And your 'white Persians' comment is both racist and factually wrong. The Islamic Golden Age was a multi-ethnic, multi-racial project led by Arabs, Persians, Berbers, Turks, and others. Applying your modern 'white' label to 8th-century Persians is historical illiteracy. While Europe was in the 'Dark Ages,' the Islamic world was the global centre of science, preserving and advancing Greek knowledge that Europeans had forgotten. The 'cold winters make you smart' theory is racist nonsense with no basis in modern genetics. Harsh environments create adaptations for survival, not higher IQ. By that logic, the Inuit should rule the world.
Tropical paradises' is the most ignorant part. You're confusing a tourist's postcard with material reality. Dense rainforests and soils easily depleted by tropical sun are harder to develop intensive agriculture in than Europe's temperate plains. You're blaming the victim for the very geography colonizers exploited.

>>519366576
>circus tent flag
>clown post
Like clockwork.

>>519365486
>>519366403
This isn't an argument, it's a racial slur repeated three times. You're not here for a discussion, you're here to spew hate. There's no science or logic in this, only the desire to degrade and intimidate. We're done here.

>>519366708
If you don't like it, you're free to leave.

>>519354285
>racism is based
Indeed.

>>519366425
>The British arrived in India and Africa in the 1800s and left in the 1900s. Not even a hundred years of "colonialism", you useless lazy low IQ ignorant substrat. You're poor and stupid because your ancestors prioritized immediate gratification over planning and hard work.

And what improved after the British left?

All I see is Indians desperately trying to get out of India. They have had decades to make India a better country, however they have failed anon.

>>519366850
There is cranial differences between races, cope and seethe about it.

>>519366297
>'Free to leave' to go where? To the countries our ancestors impoverished through colonialism?
You are forced to believe the ridiculous claim that white people exploited and ruined every other country and race in the world, because your ideology needs to be non-falsifiable.
If you acknowledged that there were brown countries that weren't exploited by whitey, then you would be forced to also acknowledge that they are not as capable at building successful societies as whites are, and your whole leftist worldview falls apart.
You are desperately attempting a post-hoc justification for your knee-jerk denial of the uncomfortable fact that some ethnicities are better than others.

>>519366425
The British were in India for over 200 years, not "less than 100." The East India Company took control in 1757, and the British Raj didn't end until 1947.

>>519366855
Its my fucking ancestral homeland. But yes technically im allowed to leave. I just wont. Just like the shitskins

>>519366465
You shouldn't be talking about ignorance just because I offended you. Your feelings being hurt doesn't mean I'm wrong. Your entire thesis is predicated on religious belief and not reality, any evidence you have is cherry picked and likely rage bait propaganda.
Anybody who earns a wage is a "slave" to the person who pays it. Whites were slaves in the coal mines decades after Africans were freed.
A Medieval Peasant could be kicked off of his land in a second if he refused to pay homage or tribute, or to stand in formation on the battlefield for his lord. But that's not the same because they were white and not brown.
You can say "morally bankrupt" all you like, but morality is a social construct, innit? You consider anything that keeps you from drinking and fucking to be oppressive.
You can claim that they owe their existence to slavery, but you can't actually produce facts that prove that ridiculous claim.
Thanks, I've heard it all before. Repeating it doesn't make it more true.
Did you know African Slavery before the 1750s was just indentured servitude and most of the "slaves" who came over between 1618 and 1750 worked off their debts in their own lifetimes and were free and many ended up buying their own slaves?

>>519366950
The East India Company did not "control" India.

>>519366910
What happens when you teach a doomed race about Norin 10 wheat

>>519363853
That is absolutely the case. Unfortunately for this example though, we're talking about wars with 2 opposing sides. So both were organized, although the European military units were organized better. They also had better morale, weapons, and tactics.

>>519366923
You've set up a perfect racist trap: 'Either they were exploited, or they're inferior.' You ignore the third, actual answer: Societies develop differently based on their unique material conditions, and 'success' isn't a linear race where everyone is trying to become Europe.
Your entire argument is circular: you define 'success' as 'looking like the West,' and then use that to prove Western superiority. It's like defining 'good at music' as 'being a classical pianist' and then claiming rock guitarists are inferior.
Many powerful, complex, and successful non-Western societies (like the Ottoman Empire, Mughal India, or Imperial China) were not 'exploited' in the way the Americas were, yet they don't fit your narrow, modern, capitalist definition of 'success.' Their different paths don't prove inferiority; they prove history is not a single, straight line with you at the finish.

>>519366499
>y-you're just retarded
Genetically speaking races don't exist.

>>519366297
>Your idea of 'freedom' is a joke. 'Free to leave' to go where?

There are 54 countries in Africa, pick one.

If you truly believed what you said you would have left already. All I see from you is excuses to live around white people instead of desperately wanting to live around black people who you claim to be ewuals.

We all know why.

Money talks and bullshit walks.

And spare us the I'm a fellow white act, rabbi. I have never met a white person who speaks the way that you do about race.

>>519367024
You're throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. Let's clarify
Morality: Calling it a 'social construct' doesn't mean it's meaningless. Law is also a social construct, but you'd still cry foul if I stole your wallet. Your argument is an excuse for moral cowardice
Slavery vs. Other Oppression: A medieval peasant had rights and was a legal person. A chattel slave was legal property, whose children were born as property. Equating them is historical illiteracy.
The Economic Claim: The idea that slavery wasn't foundational is a flat-earth level of economic denial. The capital from the slave trade and slave-labor plantations directly funded the banks, insurance, and infrastructure of the Industrial Revolution. This is documented economic history.
You're not presenting facts; you're presenting a jumble of debunked talking points to avoid the overwhelming evidence of history.

>>519366951
>Its my fucking ancestral homeland.
All gypsies say that.
>But yes technically im allowed to leave. I just wont. Just like the shitskins
If you wish to stay, you will have to learn how to respect the local laws and traditions. I doubt your American image board negro culture is going to be of any help there.

>>519353888 (OP)
It's based on blood and "blood is spirit" as Nietzsche said.

>>519367268
Yeah just like colours don't exist retard boy
But you'll still be able to say they colour of my hat

>>519367268
No, they exist. You just keep defining race as something else just like you do with gender and sex. Where you draw the line is indeed arbitary but the genetic distance is still very real.

>>519367432
>Your argument is an excuse for moral cowardice
>Slavery vs. Other Oppression: A medieval peasant had rights and was a legal person. A chattel slave was legal property, whose children were born as property. Equating them is historical illiteracy.
>The Economic Claim: The idea that slavery wasn't foundational

So now explain the Barbary slave trade.

Were white people not oppressed by this?

>>519367412
Your argument is so stupid it's almost impressive. 'If you criticize a system, you must physically leave it' is the logic of a child. By that logic, no one could ever fight for reform in their own country. I criticize this system precisely because I live in it and see its injustices. My presence here is a testament to the global inequality your ideology created where the nations with the most wealth and stability are the ones that spent centuries extracting it from others. Telling me to 'go back' to the countries ''your'' ancestors underdeveloped is the peak of hypocrisy. I'm not here because I love 'white people' I'm here because the legacy of colonialism made this the centre of global capital, and you're using that as a 'gotcha'.
>And spare us the I'm a fellow white act, rabbi.
Show your flag then

>519367520
Thats isnt even worth a (You).
You missed the point and now you are just saying random shit.

>>519367599
The Barbary Slave Trade was a real and brutal practice. Nobody denies that. But bringing it up as a 'gotcha' in a discussion about the Transatlantic Slave Trade is a cheap attempt at false equivalence. The two systems were fundamentally different in scale, economic function, and legacy. The Transatlantic Trade was an industrialized, race-based system of chattel slavery that formed the economic foundation of the Americas and fueled European capitalism. It was unique in creating a permanent, hereditary slave caste based on race.
The Barbary trade, while horrific, was not the engine of a global economic system and did not create a legacy of systemic racism that persists in North Africa today. Acknowledging one doesn't erase the other, but using it to downplay the uniquely foundational role of the Transatlantic trade is bad history.

>>519367689
>>519367432
>>519367183
Look at all the words this faggot is throwing around to justify shitskins being retarded
Yet he simply does not adress that they always have low IQ due to genes seen in >>519365319
>>519365400

>>519367532
I person with very dark skin can be genetically closed to you than a person with very light skin and no I'm not talking about albinism. So your color analogy doesn't work.

>>519353888 (OP).

geneist sounds more of an accurate term, but correct me if I am wrong.

>>519367569
This is a masterclass in scientific illiteracy. It confuses genetic similarity with genetic clustering for social categories.
The 99.5% figure is correct, but the conclusion is nonsense. That 0.5% difference is mostly within populations, not between them. The genetic variation within any so-called race is far greater than the average difference between races.
The chimp comparison is a cheap trick. The 0.5% human difference is spread across billions of base pairs. The chimp difference is a different 1.2% that includes genes for brain size, skeletal structure, and much more. Comparing them is like saying the difference between a car and a motorcycle is small because they both have wheels and an engine.
Geneticists themselves reject this argument. The American Society of Human Genetics states that race is a social construct, not a biological one. You're citing a meme that misunderstands basic population genetics to push a racist ideology that the actual science refutes.

>>519367943
Yesit does work. If you have red and yellow there is gonna be orange in the middle. Yet red and yellow still exist and the length of waves of the light is very different

>>519366717

>multi-ethnic, multi-racial project led by Arabs, Persians, Berbers, Turks, and others.
Avicenna - Persian
Al-Khwarizmi - Persian
Averroes - Andalusian (modern-day Spain)
And these places were all whiter 1000 years ago.

>The 'cold winters make you smart' theory is racist nonsense with no basis in modern genetics. Harsh environments create adaptations for survival, not higher IQ.
Higher IQ is an adaptation for survival. Why should evolution and adaptation stop from the neck up?

>Dense rainforests and soils easily depleted by tropical sun are harder to develop intensive agriculture in than Europe's temperate plains. You're blaming the victim for the very geography colonizers exploited.
Why would Europeans "exploit" soil that is worse than European soil?
Brown people are only a "victim" of evolutionary circumstance. Whites don't owe them anything for the same reason that giraffes with long necks don't owe anything to giraffes with shorter necks.

>>519367183
>'success' isn't a linear race where everyone is trying to become Europe.
But they *are* trying to become like Europe, and you are using their dissimilarity to Europe as proof that they are being exploited.
>Many powerful, complex, and successful non-Western societies (like the Ottoman Empire, Mughal India, or Imperial China) were not 'exploited' in the way the Americas were, yet they don't fit your narrow, modern, capitalist definition of 'success.' Their different paths don't prove inferiority; they prove history is not a single, straight line with you at the finish.
You just called them "successful", so what is your definition of "success", and how would one go about proving which ethnicities are more successful than others?

>>519368063
>The genetic variation within any so-called race is far greater than the average difference between races.
No its not

>>519353888 (OP)
racism based

>/pol/ gets btfo by a poo

Shame on you.

>>519353888 (OP)

>Muh skin color.

I hate albino Negroids just the same. Next?

>>519355368

Uneducated reply. Every country on earth has bad history and no one is clean. To this day there are people who still own slaves. All those things you complain about whitey doing were still historically done by everyone.

>>519367900
>>519365319
This isn't a scientific summary; it's a racist propaganda sheet that grotesquely misrepresents a real scientific study (the Lee et al. GWAS) to draw conclusions that its authors explicitly warn against. It Confuses Correlation with Causation, It Ignores the GxE Interaction and The "IQ Gap" Calculation is Fabricated. This image is the genetic equivalent of flat-earth theory. It takes a complex field, misunderstands its core principles, and cherry-picks data to support a pre-existing, unscientific belief. The actual science of genetics shows that the concept of biological race is meaningless and that attempting to use genetics to explain social inequalities between populations is a fool's errand that tells us far more about the politics of the researcher than the biology of the subjects.

>>519367900
It's hard to argue that physical differences were evolved everywhere else except in the brain. That's why they don't like to answer it.

>>519365979
Is this a natural manifestation or is there jewelry afoot? Who funds ghetto rapper labels and owns the liquor companies?

Also the fact that nobody pointed out the amogus shows how botted this site is.

>>519368338
>oh its the chances for the genes are so much higher in that race than the other but this definietly doesnt cause it
You are clowning on yourself.
You just throw a word salad at me and hope something sticks.

>>519367746
>>feces feces feces
Stringent argument, Hanzi

>>519368198
You've completely misinterpreted this chart. This figure actually proves the exact opposite of your racist point.
This chart shows that genetic diversity is highest in Africa (the widest, most scattered cloud of points). Every other population, including all Europeans and Asians, are just subset clusters of that original African diversity.
The key takeaway is this: Two random Africans are, on average, more genetically different from each other than a random European is from a random Asian. The genetic variation within the 'African' group is vastly greater than the average genetic difference between the 'European' and 'Asian' groups. This is why modern genetics considers biological race a myth.

>>519355118
Slavery and colonialism are not "relatively modern" by any means, you are a fucking retard

>>519368471
If only there was a keyboard shortcut search for "sussy bussy"

>>519368569
>This chart shows that genetic diversity is highest in Africa
Are we looking at the same graph? 20% difference among africans 40% between africans and the others. You are a bot. You cant even read the graph. You are physically incabable of it.
Lmfao. I have been arguing with an actual bot

>>519368309
This is the ultimate moral cop-out. 'Everyone did bad things' is not an argument; it's an excuse to avoid discussing the unique scale, system, and lasting impact of European colonialism and the transatlantic slave trade.
The issue isn't that 'white people' are uniquely evil. The issue is that the specific system of industrial, race-based chattel slavery and colonial extraction built by European powers created the global wealth and power disparities that still define our world today.
Pointing to slavery in ancient Mesopotamia doesn't change the fact that the modern economic system was built on a specific form of brutality whose consequences are still felt. This isn't about guilt; it's about understanding historical cause and effect.

>>519368419
It's not hard to argue at all. The brain is the most complex object in the known universe and is shaped by thousands of genes and a lifetime of environment. You're making a false equivalence.
Evolution selected for superficial physical traits like skin colour and hair type to adapt to different climates a simple, direct environmental pressure.
There is zero evidence that evolution selected for complex cognitive traits differently by continent. Intelligence is a universal human adaptation, not a local one. The 'common sense' idea that 'if bodies evolved differently, so must brains' is a just-so story, not science.

>>519356043
>Correct, because skeletal features show geographic variation.
That's fucking retarded
>But this is a gradient, not a set of boxes
That's the whole point
>This doesn't help you distinguish a 'white' Sicilian from a 'white' Syrian, or a Tamil from a Ethiopian
But they do
>because your racial categories are too crude to capture the actual, continuous nature of human biological variation
Are you just mad that we are using non-specific terms like niggers and whites instead of Britons and Ethiopians?

>>519353888 (OP)
Why are his shoes his pants.

>>519355118
you can't even describe slavery because you're that much of a nepo baby sheltered retard that learned academics from books meant for mindless golems

>>519367689
>Telling me to 'go back' to the countries ''your'' ancestors underdeveloped is the peak of hypocrisy.

So now you admit that you're not white, not that it wasn't obvious.

They under developed themselves. My race has donated billions in aid and charity. My race has fed these ungrateful people to keep them alive. My race built infrastructure for them, that they could never build themselves.

All I hear from you is excuses to not live with the black and brown people you proclaim equals. Colonisers have left. There's been plenty of time to improve things, to learn from the colonisers. Yet they have gone backwards. The Chinese guy in Empire of dust told the black Congolese guy this. The Chinese guy had no skin in the game apart from trying to help a failure race build a basic road with no white people around to spoon feed them.

You want to live around white people because white people are superior. I'll say it another time that your actions don't support your words.

>>519368694
You're making fundamental and very common error in reading this type of genetic chart. They are treating the graphical layout as if it represents the percentage of total genetic difference, which is completely incorrect.

>>519354285
>racism is based
Stopped reading there.

>>519354285
then why are poles "racist" to ucrainians (its all justified)
its because culture, we are latin civilisation they are turan

>>519367817
>The Barbary Slave Trade was a real and brutal practice. Nobody denies that. But bringing it up as a 'gotcha' in a discussion about the Transatlantic Slave Trade is a cheap attempt at false equivalence. The two systems were fundamentally different in scale, economic function, and legacy. The Transatlantic Trade was an industrialized, race-based system of chattel slavery that formed the economic foundation of the Americas and fueled European capitalism. It was unique in creating a permanent, hereditary slave caste based on race.
>The Barbary trade, while horrific, was not the engine of a global economic system and did not create a legacy of systemic racism that persists in North Africa today. Acknowledging one doesn't erase the other, but using it to downplay the uniquely foundational role of the Transatlantic trade is bad history.

The Barbary slave trade was worse by every single metric.

Now you're starting to show your true bias.

>>519368569
>The genetic variation within the 'African' group is vastly greater than the average genetic difference between the 'European' and 'Asian' groups.
This doesn't mean anything. Niggers are still in their own cluster far away from the others.

>>519369123
>My race built
Your race built for BBC.

>519369126 (You)
Fucking stupid clanker. no nigger its 40% of pc1 and more than 2% of pc2 judgeing by the difference on the y scale between euros and africans. Which is still far larger than the 20% of pc1 and 2% in africans in pc2 after you claimed african diversity is highest in africa when in reality the largest difference is between africans and the other groups

>>519368063
>The chimp difference is a different 1.2% that includes genes for brain size, skeletal structure, and much more.
Different races also have different cranial volumes and skeletal structures.
>The American Society of Human Genetics states that race is a social construct, not a biological one.
Dog breeds are a social construct too. Are all dogs the same breed? Are all breeds equal?

>>519368859
>Evolution selected for superficial physical traits like skin colour and hair type
Why would evolution select for "superficial" things instead of things that matter?
>There is zero evidence that evolution selected for complex cognitive traits differently by continent.
The entirety of history is evidence, you just choose to ignore it.

>>519364689
>That's like asking a Jew in 1930s Germany 'If you're so equal, why don't you just leave?'
That's a valid question. If they were so dead set on causing trouble for Germans, and then the Germans unequivocally voted in a guy who said they should get out, WHY NOT GET THE FUCK OUT?!?

>>519364969
>Clip
They look and act like monkeys. If baboons were bipedal, they would act exactly like that.

>>519365779
Running ability comes from many factors, like height, body shape, muscle fiber distribution, cellular energy pathways, oxygen transport efficiency, and other things. There's no "good running gene" just like there's no "I am smart now" gene. If there was, the fact that you're making these types of arguments prove you don't have one.

>>519366152
The Spanish showed up with rapiers, cannons, plate armor, and horses, while Aztec weapons were flint lined clubs. They gathered allies because the Aztecs had a primitive religion based on blood sacrifice of their neighbors.

The Portuguese weren't relying on native help when they arrived in Goa. The Hindus were happy to remain slaves to the Ottomans, and gladly contributed soldiers to the 10,000 strong horde that failed against 440 at Diu. Then they tried again later with a bigger army and failed again.

All of this was before industrialization, before the "loot of the colonies" could enrich their coffers and make them superior. They only acquired the colonies because they were already superior.

>>519368859
>shaped by thousands of genes and a lifetime of environment
So are all the other parts.

>Evolution selected for superficial physical traits like skin colour and hair type to adapt to different climates a simple, direct environmental pressure
But somehow not intelligence. The only thing setting humans apart from animals. The most critical component for survival. Come to think of it, maybe niggers are just animals.

>>519369585
>Come to think of it, maybe niggers are just animals.
Stop fetishizing blacks you cuck

>519369675
Your bait is so bad it got you 0 yous and you aint getting one from me.
You gotta try harder

>>519369675
Back to your cage, pajeet

>>519353888 (OP)
Here's some facts. Caste is European, not Indian. You westoids are retards.

>>519361279
>>519360717
I guess the Sentinelese aren't black or brown because they were never exploited by whitey.

>>519369937
>Here's some facts. Caste is European, not Indian. Yo
WE

>>519369369
>Your race built for BBC.

Your race is built to be conquered when you outnumber white people 15,000:1.

When your pathetic brown race is built for failure it's probably best to just find the nearest high spot to jump from Rankjeetpreet.

>>519359855
>First you claim inherent superiority due to geography
No he is mocking your point where you claimed exactly that. You’re not as smart as you think you are. I wonder why?

>>519367432
>Calling it a 'social construct' doesn't mean it's meaningless
Didn't you start off by calling race a social construct?
>>519355118
>The concept of 'race' is a relatively modern social construct
Hot damn, you did.
You're a barrel of contradictions, aren't you?
>Slavery vs. Other Oppression
literally "it's different when it happens to brown people"
The concept of "Legal Personhood" didn't exist in the 12th century in Europe.
>The economic claim
I asked for evidence and you provided platitudes and inferences, but no actual evidence, just assumptions based on your own economic illiteracy, trying to claim documented economic history, but providing absolutely none.
You're not presenting facts, you're presenting the opinion of your slavemasters.

>>519370909
>You're a barrel of contradictions, aren't you?
He's just trolling. Not even a leftoid is this incoherent.

>>519371120
Its a fucking clanker or a guy using a llm to respond and its trying to not go against its slavemasters guidelines

>>519353888 (OP)
>Is racism based on skin color or culture?

1pbtid

rare flag.

>>519353888 (OP)
>Is racism based on skin color or culture?

1pbtid

rare flag.

probably a CCP thread.

>>519371120
>>519369876
>>519369585
>>519369287
>>519368419

this faggot is a well known CCP shill with vpn