Thread 96323973

The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>96314958


>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

>Booru:
https://ageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php

>Thread question:
Leaked tomes are topic enough

Do the new tomes have any new lore or hint towards anything for 5e? God don’t tell me we have to wait for another campaign.

>>96323980
Only rules are out. But i assume Chorf releas will be a thing for the narrative

>>96323821
damn, right at the end, what bad luck, well I'll be short 2e, storcast, pdf, link please.

>>96324097
https://files.catbox.moe/5o2rh7.pdf

At least they kept their ability instead of being gutted like the other datasheets

>>96323973 (OP)
>The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated edition
are hexwraiths still around too?

Is it possible to play FEC with just new = not Old World ones models, and be able to win at least from time to time?

>>96324466
Old world doesn’t have any of the models fec has

>>96324462
Yes

>>96324462
Against all odds, yeah. Glaivewraiths died so they could live.
>>96324466
>>96324479
As in all the stuff that was added in aos, none of the leftover units from vampire counts ? Should be doable yeah, lot of them are great units. Ush, morbheg knights, beastflayers are very much staples. Picrel is a tourney winning list, so if it works for competitive you can definitely make it work in casual games.

>>96324466
>>96324552
Whoops, wrong image.

>>96324332
Panting these and building them was one of the most frustrating hobby experiences I've had

>>96323988
I think chorf release will probably just be a fomo box like death rattle and lumineth and snarlfang etc...

>>96324691
I meant it in a "they will shake up the status quoe in some way". Gitmob basically threw in another hat into the fight over Hysh. Deathrattle was just a remake of existing stuff, so nothing new there

>>96324691
Feel like it'll also be the chorf's spearhead
>Captcha:gayrr

>>96324699
>Feel like it'll also be the chorf's spearhead
Yeah I also got that vibe when they literally announced on stream that it'll be the Chorf spearhead.

>>96324753
Oh... am I retarded?

>>96324466
Yes. Morbhegs and ushoran are meta, and all the best heroes like gormayne and the flying guy are new. Thats all you need iirc, but if you're doing formations that need core theres cryptguard

>>96324123
Thanks bro, with this one I finally have them all, or at least the ones that have come out so far.

>>96324699
it will be a chorf spearhead, until they inevitably release a different one with worse value soon after.

>Want to make a fun army with lots of variety
>But the traits encourage me to spam one thing
Why does GW encourage boring armies?

>>96324848
>I finally have them all
not so fast

do we have an idea on the price the chorf army box might be?

its a spearhead+rulebook right?

>>96324865
The final boss of age of sigmar.

>>96324871
deathrattle had no more plastic in it.

>>96324871
It contains a spearhead, it is not a spearhead

>>96324466
Yeah, ghouls are irrelevant and horrors/flayers are just optional niches.

>>96324915
how much was that one?

>>96324871
There were some calculations based on the raffle that gw put out, which had the army box at quite a bit cheaper or something like that.
However I think it unfortunately turned out to be bogus ?

Can we get some full army pictures?

>>96324848
Any luck on scans of the KO or IDK tomes yet?

>Zombie Dragon, Horrors, Hexwraiths survive
how're GW fooling with this shit

>>96324865
>Battletome: MTV Cribs

>building durthu last night
Why does he have high heels? Also talk about models that easily hide fuck ups sylvaneth are a fucking treat after lumis

>>96324986
Kino
Which ship is your favourite would you say ? Personally I think the frigates look the best.

>>96325189
I'm a sucker for the ironclad. I think the frig and gunhauler are too "closed topped" but the ironclad really nails the actual boat design for me.

>>96325183
WHF trees were all female coded, Kurnoth Hunters were AoS, I guess?

Joined a Ravaged coast path to Glory with Ogors.
It's pretty fun. Thought it would just be obvious to spam units for embershards but there's apparently lots of mechanics to try and even out the playing field so snow balling isn't that oppressive.
Lost my first game but had enough shards to buy a Butcher and put him on a Hero path. +2 to spell cast and s +1 with the only good battle formation on turn 1 just seems to good to pass on

>Anvil of Apotheosis Orruk Warclans
>Ironjawz Orruk hero
>Kruleboyz Orruk hero
Fucking cunts

I miss Misthavn Narcotics and rules with SOVL in general

>>96324986
Posted my trees last thread but here's a somewhat better picture. Those ships are cool as fuck bluork anon :^).

>>96325439
I'm an actual idiot

>>96325446
No durthu wtf anon

isn't this a TOW doodle?

>>96325506
I'll get him eventually, don't worry

By Sigmar how horrifying

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/5qrpauyk/what-if-revenant-draconith-joined-the-other-mortarchs-of-death-warhammer-community-breaks-out-the-bits-box/

>>96325556
That is kinda un nerving.

>>96324986
my camera isnt super great at whole army shots, but here's the big waaaagh. added another 1500pts of kruleboyz and a couple big pigs since this photo was taken

>>96325339
Like the red stonehorn (?) anon
>>96325556
I do like the nighthaunt one, had a similar idea
>>96325585
Looking great anon, always a pleasure

Does New Zombie dragon have a bigger base the old Zombie dragon?

>>96325439
>>96325446
Those kick so much ass, man. Absolutely fantastic color transitions everywhere, the type of stuff I'd expect to see on studio paintjobs.
I've been exposed
>>96325585
These are properly Orky, anon, good shit. Really love all the bases and the leathery look for the squigs. Might I ask what you use for your bases? They look mossy which I'd really like to try out for my chorfs if I don't end up doing molten bases.

>>96325556
Absolute kino, I wish it wasn't restricted to a single RoR for FEC

>>96325667
sure. the moss is train table flock, i dont remember the brand, i bought it like 15 years ago, but most hobby shops that carry model train stuff have it. was very cheap, like $10 for a liter sized bag of it. just dab some glue where you want it and swirl the base around in it.

the mud is AK dark earth and wet ground, with bits of dill and twine fibers

and the tufts are army painter swamp tufts

>>96325700
Looks absolutely amazing man. Screenshotting for later. If I don't use it on my chorfs I'll definitely find a use for it on a different army.

What could I count picrel as in CoS?
Twice as tall as a Steelhelm

>>96324856
Because 4e is boring trash, play OPR

>>96325742
probably one of the hero's. Or a replacement for that one retinue unit.

>>96324856
GW absolutely locked the fuck in on designing rules exclusively to move stock that didn't sell in previous editions. Mainly to tourneyfags and waacfags
Find a buddy to play earlier editions or establish a gentleman's code in friendly games to avoid spam
>>96325754
I keep hearing OPR being brought up as alternative but, besides lore that makes it legal to play AoS and WHFB armies, I haven't anything good about it

>>96324856
It doesn't you just have no brain processing and don't actually play the game

4e is fun to play and just because you don't have ooga Boogaloo summons and shit ass NPE rules where you can gotcha people, it's the most fun it's been. Not GW fault you can't understand the traits that buff one unit type is meant to bolster that to make them better and usable than just spamming the other actually better units. I swear you faggots don't play or think before putting your retardation in the air. 2e sucked ass because summoning, 3e sucked ass because magic meta and manifestation/krondspire, 4e only sucks in that some warscrolls are a little more streamlined but the battleplans both narrative and GHB are better than ever and terrain rules that don't fucking suck like 40slop is another bonus.

Battle tactics alone prevent you from spamming dryads you actual cro-magnons

I’m not reading that but I hope armies of renown get touched up again and all become free next edition.

>>96325843
4e is fun and the core rules are the most solid AoS has ever had. But there is something to look into when people start dreading their army’s battletome. These books should feel like expansion packs to your base game considering the price paid, but instead they feel like patches with balancing and minimal actual new content. Why are there only 4 subfactions, 3 spells, 3 Artefacts, and 3 hero traits for each book? Where’s the expansion? Even with the premise of “less choices means you get better quality choices”, heaven forbid you use the one option that ends up actually being good, you’ll soon get punished for doing so in a balance update. Sure, the SoG stuff is a step in the right direction but they should be permanent additions, not seasonal.

>>96325843
once per turn army bricked half my collection, there's more wrong with 4e than just a little warscroll streamlining

i dont think its a total writeoff, the core rules are mostly good, but the listbuilding practically feels preconstructed in all but name

>>96325876
No it didn't you're just a pussy who can't play his toy soldiers without it. And list building isn't pre-made. You idiots lose on two fronts here. If you play narrative, you can play literally whatever you want it shouldn't matter. And competitively, many top armies have a good core unit (like any army in any wargame) they bring a good amount of, then bring a mixed force army. The exception being the fucked up khorne hero spam and the skaven one.
>>96325872
I wish we had more artifacts and traits. I also played in 2e with malign and how fucking insane having 36 options and 7 spell lores. There is a middle ground but people are such belly acher babies saying it's slop and unplayable. We also haven't had big expansive tomes since 2e so this isn't exactly new. Not that I enjoy it either but if people would actually go and play their army in the current rules with their new tomes, they might be less fluffy than last edition but they play just as good.

>>96325556
Jesus that's cool

>>96325903
>namecalling
>its just toy soldiers bro
>namecalling
>just play narrative and cheat bro
>this one army has a spammable unit so your army must not be affected

yeah im done. too rude and aggro with no actual point. just because i can spam boingrot bounders to some success doesnt make my 3 manglers any better, only a single one can do any impact hits and only if its a boss, nevermind what they did to the attack and defense profiles.

reply with whatever glib insults you want, im checking out. i'll see you guys next thread.

4e battletomes are kinda mid, aren't they?
Hope GW steps up their game for 5e.

>>96325945
Imagine being so upset about dumb meatballs you think an entire edition of a game is bad. Thinking everything has to cater to every niche is why we are here. See you next thread pussy

>>96324856
>Want to make a fun army with lots of variety
>But the traits encourage me to spam one thing
>>96325876
>once per turn army bricked half my collection
make up your mind idiots.

>>96325903
I do agree with that anon on listbuilding, though. There have been so many times I’ve made a list I want to run that isn’t spam or anything gimmicky and I can’t finish it off the way I want without drastically changing it because of a combination of listbuilding restrictions and points. It’s infuriating especially with an army as starved for choice as IDK.

>>96325810
>I haven't anything good about it
>>96325872
It's also the most dead AoS have ever been, nobody plays it outside of spearhead baby tutorial games

>>96325981
>points mean I cant take whatever I want
cool starry bra

>>96325981
There are less building constructions now than when we had battle line requirements and battalions which were taxes on models. IDK I feel for you though, their range not having 1-2 more infantry and 5 model unit hurts then a lot more than say SCE.

>>96325985
>play rate is the highest its been in any trackable metric
>my anecdote makes the world
Imagine shilling a baby ass no flavor game and calling AoS 4e bad.

>>96326012
stormcast pays for its unit count by being the only faction in the game that actually follows the spirit of regiment restrictions instead of 90% of your shit taking practically whatever it wants like every other faction.

>>96326015
Nigga shilling MTG the wargame

>>96325515
yes

>>96326029
Right, but in context of anons question and not your 40k muh regiment schizo posting, they have much more freedom than an army with 1 infantry and like 6 kits.

>>96326060
listbuilding is literally organized by regiments idiot wtf are you talking about. The context of his statement which wasn't a question is directly complaining about hero regiment restrictions which idk has as generous of an amount of cheap any heroes as everyone else.

>>96325667
Thanks anon. Some of them look pretty bad up close because I was still learning the basics when painting them. At this distance it's all good though

playing AoS doesn't mean you prefer the current edition ngl most people are stuck with whatever is popular regardless of the prevailing sentiment
just as 40k players cried about indexes or whatever yet still played it

rip nighthaunt.

this might actually be the edition that kills the game. it's damn well trying to be. fyreslayers not getting a battletome would be a blessing with how brutal the tomes are to their armies this edition.

link to the NH leak?

>>96326271
Fec tome seems pretty gud. I think nighthaunt tome is an overreaction to their strong presence early on in the edition.

>>96326031
Nobody has to shill MtG, it's the best card game for a reason

>>96326322
the reason is it launched without competition. Then the competition it had was owned by the same company.

>>96326317
https://gofile.io/d/6IZWVw

>>96324986
You have summoned ghoul anon with your beautiful army. You should take great pride in it. It pleases me to see. Your vessels certainly speed you towards enemies of the crown, yes?

>>96325446
Your trees form a mighty glade that my knights will swear to protect with their very lives good sir spirit of the wilds.

>>96325585
Hark, and assembly of such noble savages. Would that we could test lance and steel against their mettle. I shall face you on the jousting fields forthwith, and should you not know the rules, I will kindly teach you the ways of chivalry.

>>96326439
Blessed spirits sent by the lady to aid our cause! This must prove ours is the path of righteousness! Your serried ranks of noble warriors from the realms beyond inspire our chivalrous spirit. To fight and die and yet still be permitted to carry on the codes of chivalry? That is a fate worth fighting for!

Honhonhon

>>96326443
Thank you!

>>96324986
Sure.

>>96326443
Link to FEC leak?

>>96326500
OUR LIEGE RETVRNS
WAN SHUI WAN SHUI WAN WAN SHUI

>>96326528
You're about to feel a little silly for asking.

>>96326500
Toss the crypt ghoul shelf in the trash

>>96326439
>>96326500
>>96326519
Death continues to be the best alliance.
Great armies all of you

>>96326528
here ya go >>96326443

>>96326554
I don't get it. Is it in the same file I didn't open it because I don't play the ghosts

first bloodwarrior. not gonna do the eyes, just going to restablish the basecoats over this wash and then do a single pass of highlights over the hair and armor and weapons

Depending on the results I can start batch half of the kit.

>>96326643
here's another bloodreaver i did.
These guys are like 4 pieces total and they're kinda cute little derpy barbarians

they're only like 9 points per model which is kind of silly. they really are just a cheap born-to-die unit to for blood tithe purposes it seems

>>96326658
look at them. they're so stubby but kind of cute at the same time. Like a shyguy from super mario

>>96326559
Why? They're just cute little guys!

>>96326528
I just threw the first pdf I had at hand into the link, should be there as well.

also made this

>>96326696
They do have some slightly off proportions, not bad or anything but definitely kinda funny looking.
>>96326746
Lel saved

>>96326500
>Your vessels certainly speed you towards enemies of the crown, yes?
In the one spearhead game I've played, they certainly did. ...before my admiral got counter-charged by clan rats and had to dispatch them instead of their leader. Pesky vermin.

Beautiful stuff though ghoul anon, I take great pride indeed

WarCom just made an AoS post on Twitter. Didn't think they did that nowadays.

>>96326439
>>96326519
Both absolutely beautiful collections. If it weren't for the sky dwarves I would've definitely gotten a death army instead. Fantastic models with some fantastic paint schemes, guys.

>>96326960
>first post in five months, lol
I guess that was enough time for them to realize that advertising exclusively on Blue Sky was retarded.

>>96326960
Either the intern messed up or they’re gonna start posting there again. Surprised they didn’t start a Bluesky account, too.

>>96326980
They never made a Bluesky account. They just stuck to FB and Insta, quietly removing mention of Twitter.

>>96326983
What's the bluesky account? Pretty sure they just lost a social media employee with the login details

>>96324986
I swear I’ll take a new picture when I finish my pity heroes and Fincarnate. I’ve just got them spread between LRL projects, too.

>>96327019
Extremely cool army anon, looks like you got one of everything?
Great paintjob, colour scheme reminds me of subnautica with the orange. I am in awe.

Been list building for Nurgle and these are the two options I’ve come up with, however I am nogames and have no frame of reference to if units are good or not. I just chose stuff that looked cool and to get something to build toward. Any idea which is the better?

Uh oh stinky! 1990/2000 pts
-----
Maggotkin of Nurgle | Affliction Cyst
-----
General's Regiment
Bloab Rotspawned (300)
• General
Nurglings (100)
Pusgoyle Blightlords (220)
Pusgoyle Blightlords (220)
---
Regiment 1
Orghotts Daemonspew (280)
Lord of Plagues (110)
• Gift of Febrile Frenzy
• Rustfang
Putrid Blightkings (380)
• Reinforced
Putrid Blightkings (380)
• Reinforced

>>96326980
You know what's also retarded? Making an assumption, choosing not to investigate it despite it being really easy to do so, and then operating as if it were correct... when it's not.

>>96327019
I think I remember seeing these before but they're beautiful, fantastic work anon. Some of the best models I've seen posted here.

One final meme post before preorder day.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jwtdzjis/chief-undead-officers-whos-the-best-mortarch-to-work-for-in-the-mortal-realms/

>>96327089
Someone’s really having fun with these articles

>>96327033
Thanks! Yeah, it’s one of each hero(Lotann wasn’t painted at the time) and a few of each unit. Unfortunately with how listbuilding and our new book are now, they don’t work well with how I chose to collect my army. I’ve got a good mixed arms collection, but the truly functional army builds lean into specialization and unit spam. Aside from painting the same unit over and over, I don’t like collecting more than 3 of a functional unit in case GW ever brings down the hammer of rule of 3 or spamming a certain unit becomes impossible. The current favorite is the shark subfaction but with that being a seasonal rule, I’m wary of even getting one more.

>>96327084
Appreciate it! I didn’t refresh the thread before I sent my other reply.

Is 60 steelhelms enough for 2k

>>96327079
You seem upset. Bad day?

>>96327169
I just love to call out bullshit.

>>96327136
60 might be too much already, depending on what kind of list you want to run.

>>96327089
>arkhan, manny, neferata
>pros : excellent dental
lel
>>96327113
Yeah I've seen a lot of sharks show up in lists lately, and eels are an evergreen choice too. But I feel the same way, I like my armies a little more varied. Spice of life etc. Beautiful army anon.
>>96327136
Yeah, more than enough I would say. They're not particularly good units anyway.

>>96327206
I don't fucking know mannnn I'm running on the assumption that all dwarf and elf models are gonna get squatted come the tome and I'm like "ok what do we have uhhhhh guys with sticks and guys with guns and horses" and after building 10 krieg horses I don't want to build 20 guild horses

>>96327226
Wait for the tome, we already have Whitefang saying CoS will be getting more this edition. Better to fill out your list with new units when they come instead of painting 60 of the same model just because you can't think of anything better with their current roster.

>>96327226
60 are fine and it's just one regiment with < 600pts

My lgs still has the old ogor spearhead lying around, which is supposed to be pretty good value. Is it a good box to pick up for a total beginner (not just aos but to wargaming as a whole)? It looks quite a bit bigger than the other spearheads.
In general, are ogors fun in spearhead and sigmar proper ? What do they play like ? And are they harder or easier to paint, compared to the average faction?
Thanks in advance.

>>96323973 (OP)
Soon

Has anyone painted up the Lumineth in the colours of Yvresse? The white, grey and various shades of blue is similar to the generic Lumie scheme so I imagine it'll work fine but just curious.
I'd love to paint my lads up as Yvresse and have 'em led by the Light of Eltharion, sort of like Teclis rebuilt the kingdom in Hysh.

>>96325931
Way too top heavy with random bits but decent paintjob. I'm going to guess this is a Vince model before looking at the article.

>>96327653
>whfb alarielle
Step aside peasant.
>>96327655
Should work just fine, it's very close to the original scheme like you said. If you're unsure you can always try it out on a test model first before going all in.
>>96327672
Some laura character actually

>>96327714
Whoever at GW decided Alarielle needs bigger tits and thunder thighs needs to be protected.

>>96327726
I want those thighs to crush my skull so badly bros

>>96327714
I suppose Vince would use more 40K bits. Foiled again.

>>96324856
Me and a buddy were discussing the new Khorne tome after we played a game with both of us using Khorne armies (the only unit we shared across our armies was a slaughterpriest, I was mortal-focused and he was daemon-focused) and when we discussed what we thought was the optimal army, literally the only unit we even considered repeating were bloodletters, but only as a "fuck, need a little more points, drop the blood warriors down to a second brick of bloodletters" kinda thing. The internal balance of the Khorne book feels pretty amazing, almost every unit in there has a role and feels worth considering, and you can definitely build a very good 2k army without repeating a single warscroll.

>>96324986
Postan the ladz. Also sick botes
>>96325585
These look great. Kb is underrated
>>96326439
Classic scheme for nighthaunt is so nice
>>96326500
Ghoulking shelf mogging everyone as per usual
>>96326519
I didn't know we had an OBRanon here, that's cool. I like your terrain too
>>96327019
I remember you stressing over these guys when you first started. They turned out so sick in the end
>>96325439
>>96325446
I didn't realize you had so many trees done tson anon :^) . Do you have closeups of your arch revenant? He looks rad

>>96328170
>I remember you stressing over these guys when you first started.
Oh god, that feels like a lifetime ago. Thank goodness I didn’t subject the thread to my LRL color dilemmas. But as they say, suffering built character.
I remember seeing those manglers, too. Lovely army, anon.

Tomorrow is the big day. Tournament time baby! I shall ride forth and crush the foes of my noble liege.

>>96328215
Yeah lmao, I thought you were going to drive a car through a shopping mall watching you try and figure out your tassel colours. I think everyone's been there. Also thanks anon, the mangers are some of my favorites

>>96326271
If 10th didn't kill 40k, I doubt 4th will kill AOS

>>96328389
>if a bullet didn't kill an elephant it won't kill a mouse

>>96328255
Godspeed anon

>>96328407
You forget that AOS has the vastly superior models.

>Those worshippers of ‘Good King Gnaw’ are not yet an organised cult. Most are independent traitors and renegades; after all, paranoia is kin to desperation. None bear the god's mark, since, for all the cruelties he inflicts on Skaven, he still favours them above all other beings. A rare few have been ‘blessed’ with warty proto-tails or sharpened incisors, but this seems more an act of passing whim than any true gift. Still, they have proved useful. Shamans and wizards thus corrupted direct their followers to excavate troves of glowing warpstone to offer Skaven warlords, heedless of the cost. Priests shift their orating along more desolate lines, subtly encouraging congregations to render cities fractured and ripe for consumption. The Shyishan city of Glymmsforge has been particularly afflicted. Here, folk belief in the trickster-god of cats lingers and is held to lend protection. King Gnaw's faithful hunt such believers and string their gnashed bones from bridges and spires, spreading hopelessness and weakening Glymmsforge's arcane defences.

>Never before has the Great Horned Rat's shadow stretched so far. His claws rake the realms, his eyes shimmering with malice as he schemes to achieve sole primacy. It is said that all the Dark Gods have their antithetical entity – yet what could challenge such rampant corruption and dissolution, except tyranny of the most pitiless, black-hearted kind?

>>96328446
It's like gw is trying to kill every free city of the realms that isn't the main capital of each realm

>>96328467
No, Hallowheart and the Living City are doing fine.

>>96328446
Skaven vs. Chorfs is a narrative matchup I've been slavering over for years. Too bad I don't actually like the Helsmiths very much...

>>96328446
Always fun to hear about cultists that don't (directly) worship the big four, human skaven cultists in this case are interesting. Glymmsforge's cat gimmick is pretty cute, reminds me of the undead ones in cursed city.
>tyranny of the most pitiless, black-hearted kind.
I did not expect chaos dwarfs to be this edition's main answer to skaven, but hey here we are. Minor chaos deity showdown.

>>96328525
Hm?

>>96328534
He must’ve posted in the wrong thread, sounds like 40kg is having an episode.

>>96324462
Yes but no new models

>>96328170
Yeah trees initially drew me back to the hobby a couple years back. I stuck with only them for a while before I got the big admech box. I remember being happy with this archrev when I finished him but looking at him now all I can see is things that I'd improve lol. I might go back to him at some point and touch up the wings and blade of his weapon at least. I dig how colorful and vibrant your dudes are btw lamenters anon :^). Really nice picture too, I need to get a larger piece of white fabric so I can take proper photos of my stuff too.

Painted some skullcrushers. Skulls for the skull chair babyyyyyy

>>96328601
>spoiler
Pic related. Also the blend on the glaive turned out sick, and i really like how varied and interesting the leaf tabbard is. And thanks anon, I try and use new colours with every model. I usually just use cheap posters for big backdrops and throw them out when they get wrinkled. If you know anyone in the print industry you can get offcuts of thick stock posters for free that don't bleed light.

>>96328697
>>96328601
>Pic related
Loel

>>96328683
Skullcrushers are so slept on, I've always loved them

>>96328683
Lovely models. Enjoy those 2+ saves, anon.

>>96328601
Trees have a sick model range. There's such a good balance struck between simplicity and stylishness.

>>96328739
Truly the Nighthaunt of Order.

>>96325446
Never realised how fucking big Belthanos is. I mean it makes sense when you think about it, but until seeing him next to normal sylvaneth it didn't click. Also looks great anon.
>>96328683
>>96328710
That paintjob is amazing, really really well done. I don't care much for khorne but I find juggernauts the coolest daemonic beasts. The lord of khorne that's mounted on one is one of the best looking models gw put out, especially at the time.

We know that (crone) Hellebron exists in AoS, and that she's something a rival to Morathi within the DoK according to Black Library stuff.
When is she going to get a model and more fluff? Seems like a perfect character to pair up with Krethusa in order to expand the Morathi loathing DoK sub-faction.

>>96327653
Every gal in Anvilgard
Lives in Har Kuron, not Anvilgard
So if you've a date in Anvilgard
She'll be waiting in Har Kuron

>>96328771
Krethusa kinda took her role last edition. Would be weird to get that doubled down again in 4th but its not out of the realm of possibility.

>>96328771
>When is she going to get a model and more fluff?
never, it was a throwaway line, nothing more

>>96328771
Right after the Crematorian counil and Ivory Host warqueen

>>96328771
black library isn't necessarily canon

Hey that's some new spooky art.
>Cravenhost
The Craven King finally got his own dudes.
>ruins of Cravenhold
I wonder if it's Statler & Waldorf who names these things. If so they could use a thesaurus. Craven King, Craventhrone Guard, Cravenhost, Cravenhold. I assume Kurdoss isn't picking these himself.

Durthu rises

>>96328840
cravin' some variety, chum?

>>96328697
I don't know anyone like that unfortunately. The fabric I'm using right now was really cheap though so getting a bigger one should be like a couple bucks at most
>>96328739
They really do. It all fits together so nicely, too.
>>96328761
That's what I thought as well. The bug doesn't feel as big in pictures with no other models around.

>>96328771
Nobody cares.

>>96328865
It looks like her dragon is wearing goggles.

>>96328997
Not really, and it also isn't a dragon.

>>96328739
Yeah well their range is about to start looking less woody and more furry.

>>96329010
it's a draconic creature

I'm gonna buy more ghouls. I should be expanding another army, or working on my competition 40k army. But instead I'm buying more ghouls.

>>96325066
If you are referring to the new volumes, no, I don't have them yet, the links will probably come out this month or the next, probably.

>>96328997
Dude, the dragon must be a digidestined protagonist then!

>>96326321
No its not, fec was just broken as hell recently, they just have two writers and one of them make shit rules, his design language is even recognizable. They've been doing this for multiple editions.

>>96327226
As anon said, we've got more stuff coming this Edition so don't commit to 2,000 points of stuff now when we may be getting Arch Knights and Cog Forts when you're less than halfway through painting.

Buy a Spearhead or army box(there are four good choices for CoS still available right now), work on that, when you get close to done buy another and work on that. That way you won't get overwhelmed and you won't be caught neck deep in Steelhelms when the whole meta changes in a few months

Is there an official map of the Cities of Sigmar?

>>96329249
If you mean a city map then yes, there are a few of those.

>>96329236
Do you have any book recs to learn more about Cities?

>>96329260
The Battletome.

Generally speaking, in AoS the best lore is still in the Battletomes, not the novels. There's a lot of fun flavorful tidbits there, while most of the novels tend to be rather dull, in my experience at least

AFAIK there's only two novels that have touched on post refresh lore; Lioness of the Parch and On The Shoulders of Giants. Lioness I'd describe as fine. I haven't read Giants yet.

>>96329256
Note that many of the cities started out as planned megaprojects with an urban sprawl radiating outwards from some strategically significant point of interest, like a realmgate and/or a stormkeep. You can see that in the oldest districts of Hammerhal Aqsha, in the straight lines around the Stormrift gate, or in the much smaller city of Anvilgard here.

>>96328683
Looks great! Whats that basing btw?

>>96329297
Same with Greywater Fastness here. We don't really have any insight into the logistics of how the scratch-built cities were constructed, but as was established through the Dawnbringer fluff in 3e, the Azyrites like to set the foundations using prefab buildings they bring with them. So you could extrapolate that most Azyrite colonial settlements will start off looking more or less the exact same down to the masonry.

>>96328710
>>96328716
>>96328761
>>96329307
Thanks for the kind words anons, I appreciate it. The basing is pretty simple. Dirt texture, few spots of crackle medium and some resin ruin bits. Then I paint it dark brown and put dry pigments on and jab at them with a ruined drybrush, no need to fix it.

>>96328795
This.

>>96328788
Yes and

>>96329051
Uh based???

which army takes the most brain power to be successful with them?

>>96329863
my army

does anyone have the khorne tome?

>>96326746
Extremely based and thank you very much

>>96328446
Glymmsforge AND the prince of cats mentioned… we are so back

Is she supposed to look female or is the androgyny intentional? I would never assume this was a female character except for the slight chest.

>>96330088
Vampires are just ugly man, gw doesn’t understand the appeal for em.

>>96330175
Ugly vampires are just as traditional as the supernaturally attractive ones.

>>96330268
Speaking of ugly, I can't believe GE replaced this model with the Blades of the Hollow King I honestly didn't even realize they were the same guy at first. I thought the Blades were three servants of Cado, not Cado and pals.

>>96330320
Downgrade in pose for sure, but I guess this does show off cado’s deal a bit more with the whole ghosts inside his rings thing. Could also I guess be stretched to say it reflects his character development across the books, going from a loser loner to a guy more openly working with others, but lets not pretend it’s that deep

>>96330088
She’s got bride of frankenstein hair going, monster face is the price of vampirism

>>96329010
Dragon autists all deserve to be pushed into a pit and concreted over. Nobody gives a fuck as to whether it's a wyrm, or a wyvern, or a drake or whatever. It's a lizard with wings, for anyone without an autistic fixation on make believe it's a dragon

>>96330587
Honestly I think putting the ghost around the older model would look better.

>>96330685
>It's a lizard with wings
NTG but you might wanna look at the model again

>>96330709
It's a big lizard in a fantasy setting. It's a dragon to anyone who can eat food with strange textures without needing his pop it toy

>>96330938
Yeah I’m not sure what else you’d call it just by looking at it. It’s also technically true because it’s the descendant of a godbeast that’s been called a dragon before anyway

>>96330175
Twilight isn't the benchmark for vampires

>>96328997
It does have some form of eye protection with that metal around them, so it's not that far from goggles in purpose

>>96331012
I mean we could go for the art for them. Or vtm

Building some steelhelms (>>96327136, decided to buy a 10 man just to get a taste of building 'em), and I gotta ask, are the musician/standard bearer and priest even useful in 4e? I'm gonna build them regardless I was just wondering

>>96330088
GW have decrepit vampires, even their equipment faces inevitably entropy given the Shyish magic that surrounds them. This guy is exceptional in that his equipment looks pristine

>>96329354
Let me dust off this classic:

What do they eat?

>>96331554
Curried peas and fusion cuisine(British?)

>>96331554
>What do they eat?

>>96329354
Greywater’s funny because it was originally intended to be a Venice-like canal city, until they discovered it was built on top of a giant realmstone deposit and then pivoted immediately into max industrialism to exploit it. The city’s sewers are mostly just old canal systems from the original days, repurposed and built on top of.

>>96331574
Since greywater only has the one road in or out, can’t build anything around it, and is constantly under siege, their diet is also unique in most of it being imported. Most meat is dried or preserved in some way, with fresh stuff (from animals brought in live to be slaughtered there) being a delicacy for the wealthy. They have fancy greenhouses that grow food, mostly tended to by wanderers, but that’s just supplementary to their supplies rather than being anywhere near self sufficient. Most cities of sigmar are reliant on rando settlements outside their walls, or within their sphere of influence, to supply them all their food, but greywater is the one most reliant on getting it brought in from somewhere else completely.

>webstore I use is listing the Luminark/Hurricanum in the TOW Empire section
I'm so tired of this shit

>>96330088
she has a female name

Wasn't expecting a box for it

>>96331657
I wonde who could have know that exact spot would compleatly change the purpose of the city from one with nature to exploiting it

>Ogre lore
They ughhh go around places working as mercenaries and like to eat meat I guess
That's been their lore since 2005 and there's been no improvements since. The ultimate NPC faction

>>96331740
Thank God there are no horrors

>>96331816
What did you say? Make a box with nothing but horrors? Coming right up

It's weird
4e started better than 40k 10e but when tomes started showing up it became more and more disappointing as a lot of times somehow managed to feel even lesser than the free rules
Meanwhile 40k 10e started off as a mess but when codexes got added it made armies a ton better. Even armies that had bad "free rules" were better with the new codex.

>>96331814
>The ultimate NPC faction
is that why you play them or just because you are also fat?

>>96331828
>Even armies that had bad "free rules" were better with the new codex.
Not the AdMech T_T

>>96331816
>>96331823
Gotta clear that stock before the refresh haha gottem

Steelhelms should have twice as many weapon options and heads tbhon

>>96324865
BEHOLD!

https://files.catbox.moe/sch5w4.pdf

>>96324878
>Boss defeated
>+3 Skill Points

>>96331953
the number of heads is fine

the problem is that half of those are unhelmeted or women instead of being fully enclosed helmets, for which gw has wonderful but woefully underused designs for cities

>>96324848
>IDK, BoK, KO, FEC, and NH not scanned
I'm hurting, bros.

I'm having Iron Jawz fever. Might actually paint my Megaboss on Mawcrusha now
Any good source for decent lists?

>>96332002
I haven't seen anything with them do well recently except the kragnos double maw-krusha list.

>>96330088
Is she supposed to look female or is the androgyny intentional?
Yes and yes. The new vamps are all gay androgynous twinks or FtMs

>>96332028
Do you think said vampire twinks would let me lick their pits?

>>96332024
Agghhhh

>>96331988
>10 bodies
>10 heads
>10 weapons
This is fine

I was drunk. I bought Kragnos. Any advice on the army around him? Beastclaw Riders with their menagerie?

>>96332097
>Beastclaw Riders with their menagerie?
Sure

>>96332070
can you read? I was talking about the heads, a total of 19 heads for 10 bodies is perfectly fine, the problem is that they waste most of those bits on unhelmeted variants instead of cool stuff like fully enclosed helmets

say for example you had 9 normal helmeted heads with an open face, 9 helmeted heads with an enclosed face, and one head for the priest, with the champion being designated by a crest you can glue on top of any of the helmets

that's enough heads to mix up to have variegated units, or go all in on one type or the other to give the unit a rookie or elite feeling

as for the weapons, I definitely think they should have had polearms too, yeah

>‘Ah, strange was my lord Khul's path. Blinded by the glare of heavenly gold, he burned the city of Brighthall to its foundations but found no peace. The Everchosen commanded he conquer Orb Infernia, that curious Aqshian moon where daemons squabble – and so he did. But arcane meddling undid his works, and he dreaded then – dreaded that he was spurned.

>But when my sword-king Khul returned from ghur, he was changed. Weakness left him like gore sizzling from hot iron.

>At the Adamantine Chain, my lord set a trap. It was a trap for his foes, for the skull of a Lord-Celestant was demanded of him – none said it had to be that of Vandus. It was a trap for himself, to see if his base mortal half could overcome that half which walked the Skull Road towards divinity.

>He defeated himself. His mortal half was cast down, and with its butchering, my lord heralded the coming age...’

> — Guardaka, Speaker of Red Sagas

Khul is so cool.

>>96332190
>Khul is so cool.
Khul is legit one of the best parts of AoS and now he's a GOAT Daemon Prince. Complete badass.

>>96332136
Huh, that is actually a pretty cool design, never seen it before. Is that grom the fusilier set ?

>>96332223
yes, fusiliers are the only ones with fully enclosed helmets, you cannot see most of the time because of the pavise tho

>>96332190
Them going hard on Khorne being ego death is so good. Khul and Vandus both being held back by their obsessions with one another was such a good way to use those characters, even if dawnbringers was too messy that was a peak concept to play with. Especially since it’s an inverted mirror of archaon/Sigmar, both him and khul letting go and winning because of it

>>96332190
>none said it had to be that of Vandus
it reads like the author rationalising his asspull, which is what it is
but I'll allow it
sometimes you can pull something of value out of an ass

>>96332136
steelhelms would improve about 100% with the visored fusil helms yeah.

>>96332223
yep

>>96332458
also this retarded (but cool) unguarded nose design

Noah, please, come back...

>>96331828
the difference in effort is astounding

>>96332515
yeah it sucks, makes it feel like AoS is ran by like two people or is about to be shuttered.

wonder when people will start being more open to playing third edition or even second out in the wild

>>96332522
> makes it feel like AoS is ran by like two people

pretty sure the current rules writing team is actually like 3 or 4 people. the guys they had in the edition introduction videos last year were the whole crew apart from extremely part time playtesters they brought on for a few weeks who played a total of around 2-4 games per army.


>about to be shuttered

i dont think its anywhere near being shuttered, they've introduced a ton of new army ranges and updates so far this year, wolfgitz, big skeleton refresh, new deepkin and kharadron, and now chaos dwarfs.

for whatever reason the rules team just keeps it very minimal and i dont personally care for the direction of the rules that actually do make it into the books as well.

>>96332542
tbf they are divided amongst various systems and individual armies. After Jervis left it's just shifted towards minimalism and the formatting for rules is function over form, probably because they sell the pro gamer versions with just the barebones rules

>>96331740
I like and appreciate these types of names. Too many battle force names (mostly in 40K) have really lame names. I get that there are only so many possibilities for a non-canon bunch of models that only serve to clear GW stock and reel in fomo spender. However the problem is their naming philosophy.

In 40K, the recent khornate battleforce was called “gorestorm slaughter pack” or something which sounds lame compared to the character of the recent BoK regiment of renown, “the red revelation”


Idk but “the red revelation” and “founding foray” sound cooler than “blood-X kill-y force”
>the red revelation
Sounds religious and spiritual, which is what khornates believe they practice when they’re mindlessly fighting

>founding foray
Gives the dudes in your box a story, like their an expedition force or treading bravely into the wilds to reclaim land

>scarlet jury
Kind of a cute joke. You got the judge, jury, and executioner in one box. The parody-like sculpts are the icing on the cake

Is this just some autistic fixation on my part or do other anons pay attention to the names and subtle linguistics behind the names of these boxes?


And here’s a slaughter priest I just finished

>>96332662
>Being the least initiated of all Bloodbound in Khorne's grim mysteries, Bloodreavers often flock to the Slaughterpriests. These warbands follow Khorne's preachers with dogged zeal, who in turn see it as their task to fully immerse their charges in the Blood God's creed of murder. Few are as committed as Zarxor Hell-Eye.

>One of the rare souls who are born amongst the Bloodbound and raised entirely in their ways, Zarxor has known little but combat throughout his life. Seen as something of a battle-sage, he leads disciples – known as the Red Revelation – across the realms in search of conflict. Zarxor may even join armies in thrall to other Chaos powers for a time, for it is his belief that every breed of battle is bu another incarnated aspect of Khorne and that all must be experienced if one is to truly discern the god's essence – to spy his real face and to know a form of twisted, raging peace. His worthiest followers are goaded to follow the path of the Skullreaper, gorging on the divine blessings their mentor manifests. As for those of less martial talent, Zarxor teaches that their blood, too, has worth – if only as a sacrifice...

>>96331012
>>96331143
Vampires can usually assume a glamourous beautiful form or a monstrous one. Which one is their natural or "base" form is usually up to the setting. Warhammer is a little weird because most vampires we see, other than those of naturally ugly bloodlines like the Necrarchs and Strigoi, are at least somewhat attractive. Mannfred and Neferata look pretty good, but someone like Vlad doesn't care about his appearance and allows himself to be a little monstrous.

Are dwarves still magically resistant in aos

This new thing they're doing of having to pay extra points for your 1 actually not trash artifact and subfaction had to be an idea that came directly from satan himself.

>>96332792
Yes, no wizards and various dispelling methods. Longbeards used to be able to picrel

>>96332866
>Dwarf complaint powers
I'm mad they can't do this anymore. That's so fucking good.

Lads, im going to buy the new chorfs but I have to replace the god awful female heads. Any one know of some good alternatives? Dont care if it is from another game or an Etsy shop/3d print company.

>>96332927
Do you even have to use the female heads.
There might be enough to make only male chorfs

Round one of the event. Fully painted ghouls vs fully paint ij.

>>96332927
This is so specific an ask there is zero chance you will find one (this early) to match, and even if one existed, the way GW will inevitably cut the sprue means you will have a hell of a time even fitting it

>>96332967
> 40k terrain and flat shit
Well at least the armies are fully painted.

>>96332974
>the way GW will inevitably cut the sprue means you will have a hell of a time even fitting it
What sort of schizo tangent are we going to go on now.

Bunch of fluff about

>HIGH FALCONER FELGRYN is a creature of divided reputation. To the serfs, he is something of a folk hero: a cheerful rogue who protects the wilds of their kingdoms with his loyal menagerie. To many abhorrant nobles, he is a gluttonous menace, given to ransacking their pantries and falling into gory indulgences that even his hosts find off-putting. Both viewpoints have merit, for Felgryn is a cunning and savage beast – and he revels in this fact.

>Felgryn came to New Summercourt from the distant steppes of Ghur. Though sired by the grand court of Gristlegore, he had little time for their strange philosophy of seeking oneness with their realm's monstrous soul. Instead, he simply wished to enjoy the Summerking's radiance and famed hospitality. Attempts to bar his passage at the fortress's gates failed when the vampire voiced a shrieking ‘song’ and a flock of leather-winged monsters descended to rip apart the guards.

>Felgryn possesses a particular bond with those wild beasts sent mad by Ushoran's curse, especially those of a bat-like nature. How he gained this ability is a mystery, for Felgryn tells a different tale each time; he variously claims to have been blessed under a witching moon, to have found some relic of Morbheg's and to have been transfigured after taking a bite out of a Terrorgheist. Regardless, one snarl from him drives a court's beasts into a frothing mania.

>>96333019
>Felgryn's giddy raucousness at the feast quickly ingratiated him to Ushoran, who granted him the title of High Falconer. He made his lair amongst New Summercourt's dizzying eyries, the floors covered with the mangled bodies of doves he ‘preened’. Felgryn's duties are many, among them sending bat-winged messengers to Ushoran's vassals, staking trespassers to trees and participating in the Royal Hunt. Felgryn and his ‘birds’ are adept at rooting out prey and driving them into the claws of his Beastflayer understudies. Most favoured of his flock is the ‘falcon’ Grype, whose screeches act as a beacon to other hunters. Felgryn lavishes attention upon Grype, feeding him gobbets of mortal flesh and lovingly smearing him with gore. That the original Grype died long ago does not faze the vampire; in his delusion, he has transferred his affections to several other beasts since, each time claiming his faithful companion has returned from a long flight.

>In this Hour of Ruin, Ushoran has charged Felgryn with a vital duty: to range ahead of the Red Errantry hosts and harry the vermin infesting the domains of the Mortarch's banner-lords from the undergrowth. Felgryn was backed for this task by Grand Justice Gormayne, who praised his talent in ferreting out skulkers – his disdain for the crass falconer surely played no part. To be far from his king's kitchens infuriates Felgryn, but he means to see the task done. After all, there is something to be said for ‘living off the land’.

>>96333022
>THE ROGUES’ GALLERY
>‘I have no desire to speak overmuch of High Falconer Felgryn.

>Bah, but we are bless'd with a fair coterie of rogues. Fie that some have come to number amongst the Summerking's innermost circle. We, his closest advisors and the ministers of his realm, make for an eclectic group. I at least can remember the dignity that doth accompany my rank, even if said rank should require that I be draped in a garland of rotting entrails each morn and told that it is an honour. But whilst we may all be beasts at heart, Felgryn and his flatterers embrace that state, even amidst the haze of our shared mania.

>Thou wouldst scarcely believe the accounts I have been regaled with concerning the extravagances in which Felgryn and his toadies gleefully partake. He would have raided our kitchens into sorry destitution had Mistress Griphook, that formidable matriarch and one of His Majesty's dearest companions, not been so severe. When the incident with the Sigmarite interlopers came to pass, the High Falconer was absent on the hunt, and his only response was to bemoan missing such “fine festivities”. Nay, there is nothing of a knight in him.

>Felgryn hath now been sent from our halls to serve as the vanguard of our war – and such a tragedy that is. Nevertheless, I fear for the example he shall set for new-blooded kin across the land as he inflicts himself upon regional grand courts. A memory of decorum is all we still possess. Should we lose it, then we are truly damned.’

>>96333025
>GRISLY PAGEANTS
>Much to his annoyance, Felgryn's role demands a degree of ‘sobriety’. Aside from the need to embody the regality of Ushoran's court, covering himself too liberally in blood risks his own flock turning on him. Yet Felgryn is as beastly as any of his menagerie, prone to entering a frenzy as he rips at the meat on his table – such hungry jocularity is what endears him to the peasantry.

>Felgryn's enthusiasm is infectious, and when the High Falconer imposes himself on some far-flung court, he encourages the hosting of wild festivities to properly honour an envoy of the Summerking. Most abhorrant lords need little persuasion to hold a grand tournament, and should battle beckon, foes might find themselves unwilling participants. Felgryn is not one to sit on the sidelines when these war-games are underway. He competes in every event, from ‘jousting in the lists’ to marshalling his beasts in savage airborne displays. Courtiers who outdo him earn his fulsome praise – but they must take caution when roaming the twisted woodlands in the future, lest a swarm of carnivorous bat-beasts suddenly decide to descend upon them.


>THE INVITATION
>On the orders of his master Abraxia, who has brushed with the abhorrant curse before, Lord Xornac the Cruel leads a host from the fortress of Blackpyre to hunt the ghouls spilling across Ghyran. Months later, the Varanguard returns, nailed to his saddle, hands severed, blood streaming from his eyes and mouth. As he babbles about falling victim to an ambush by corpse-eating hunters and suffering the foul ‘hospitality’ of some ghoulish falconer, his acolytes extract a vial of kingsblood crudely sewn into his guts. On it is a scrawled note addressed to Abraxia herself: ‘A place still waits for thee’.

>>96333019
>>96333022
>>96333025
>>96333030
Tl;dr the provincial commoner is an asshole

I don't understand why it took so long into 4e to get cool battletomes, but the whole 'the nobles you have leading your ghouls are the ones who induce the specific delusion your ghouls have' is really good army themeing. FEC, KO and Khorne have some really nice ideas I wish we'd seen earlier in the edition.

>>96333019
>–
>>96333022
>–
>>96333025
>–
I fucking hate that botters are now at gw

>>96329402
damn that's a sweet skullcrusher. I don't see this style often. looks like an illustration. did you just layer or wetblend any of it?

I am painting through the khorne spearhead right now and might do one of the three bloodcrushers. Think I'm gonna go with the spear since BoK has enough axes already.

>>96333075
I just wish it wasn't arbitrarily conditionally applied; changing it every few rounds. You used to just pick one of D6 delusions.
I'd rather have consistency for theming and yourdudes, but it's great Abhorrants finally get some

>>96333083
Learn to love the en dash.

>>96333125
I will never.

>>96333125
Em dash actually (—)
En dash (–) is the smaller one you use for number ranges and "to" or "vs" (Miami–Seattle)

>>96332468
>BoK tome namedrops Heldanarr, Kaddarar, Volundr, and Skarde
I'm almost surprised they didn't reach back to Call of Archaon/Call of Chaos for some references.

>>96332967
Cool anon let us know how it goes. What's the list. Fuck ton of ghouls and horrors and ushy ?

>>96332955
No idea, I hope so but i expect ill need atleast one female in each box and I really dont want that. I also want more beards

>>96332974
It is not that specific. I just need someone who rips off chaos dwarves and offers a 3dprinting service. There are loads of sellers who do it for space marines, Bretonnians, and Tomb Kings on etsy

>>96332927
I hope someone ends up making alternate head bits that resemble either traditional hat chorfs or infernal guard
These T hats really don't do it for me

>>96333178
I dont mind the T hats so much, the chorf in the center is just silly looking. Reminds me of Eddie murphy's character Rasputia in Norbit

>>96332982
To be fair, the flat shit is supposed to have a bunch of trees on them, but my fat ass kept knocking them over.

>>96332791
>Vlad doesn't care about his appearance
He totally did.

>>96332967
As you can clearly see, I have 10 ghouls in the candy cane rimmed circle therefore I have won this objective

>>96330587
>with the whole ghosts inside his rings thing
what rings?

>>96333262
> Part of his entire persona is the rings that have his dead advisors in them
> Digital artist can't even be bothered to model them on the model
Why do we constantly jerk off GW sculptors again?

>>96333270
we do?

>>96333262
>>96333270
>inb4 he loses the rings in the third book

>>96332927
GW somehow found a way to flanderize chorfs. They thought "hurr durr fuhnny hats : DDDD" and just gave them these weird anvil looking things on their heads that just make the pudgy half-orc faces look worse and fatter.

The old chorfs had big decorative hats that were meant to be flashy. It was like a way to imposing their dominance and esteem over others. They were psuedo-crowns, which fit since chorfs only seek to subjugate, sacrifice, and enslave others.

>>96332927
>bare arms
why? they look like they're wearing old lady moomoo dresses.

>>96333248
Post games

>>96330320
>>96333262
Clearly the ring turns into the ghost

>>96332097
Just return him

>>96332967
12 PIGS!

>>96324973

It was 315 CAD

>>96327340
>good value
it is. It's over or around 1k points.

>good box for a total beginner
I would recommend getting a box of gluttons first if you like ogors. Painting and building a faction's basic tropp/battleline unit is a good way to know how you feel about them cause you WILL be bringing some battleline no matter your army. You can't just avoid it like you can avoid running certain characters or monsters etc. Still, the spearhead is the 2nd best place to start (in my mind) and the 1st best place to start according to everyone else

>looks quite a bit bigger
It's definitely an anomaly. If it was released today it would be missing the cannon or the mournfang rider. Their rules in Spearhead games make them start with some of their units in reserve, coming in later on to keep things balanced IIRC.

>are ogors fun
never played them but they have a lot of fans cause ogors are funny and cheap/easy/simple to play and paint.

>easy to paint
yes. very easy. mix orange+white for their skin, apply a ruddy skin wash over it and ur good. paint the pants 2 colors, the belt and shoes in black. 2 metallics for the weapons and gut plate. grey for the stone clubs, brown for the handles.

beware that the models are very dated. Not bad, but the scale and sculpting definitely look their age. You should look into 3d prints if you can't stomach it. there are loads of Ogor proxies done very well online

>easy to play
>what do they play like
yes. run at the enemy and eat them. your guys do good damage but are deceptively fragile. gluttons are a staple. ironguts are not worth it over gluttons. the Ironblaster cannon is strong. I heard the butcher is very strong too but it's an old resin model that might get nerfed or changed anyway. you will also need gnoblars. some people run the big stonehorns too, don't know much aside from that. they haven't gotten their battletome yet.

It warms the cockels of my heart to see so many BoK pics after the tome release. Some late-stage bloodbound or a Bloodreaver, Slaughterpriest, and Skullreaper.
Does anyone have the title(s) of those Khul books?

>>96333418
Guy in the middle

>>96333246
He specifically didn't glamour himself because Isabella loved him no matter what.

>>96333312
That's stupid. The ghosts should be inside the rings, not the rings themselves.
Luckily I just got the old model off ebay for cheap. Less than $30 shockingly.

>>96333430
:)

>>96333075
FEC is the lead designers main faction. makes sense that they would get the most attention design wise

you can very clearly tell which armies the designers actually play and give a shit about in 4e and which they couldnt care less about

>Terrorgheists are not the only behemoths in the prized menageries of the Flesh-eater Courts. In the desolate reaches of the realms, one may stumble into gloomy sprawls dominated by huge skeletons, each picked clean by scavengers. These are the great draconic graveyards. Instead of noble Draconith, whose corpses are coveted and controlled by more traditionally aristocratic vampires, these boneyards are commonly filled with the remains of ‘lesser’ dragon breeds: spiteful wyverns, moon drakes, the cruel black serpents of Narkath and even such singular bloodlines as the mystic Xangrial wyrms. The abhorrants will readily lay claim to their bones, stirring the skeletons to wakefulness with what they believe to be pure songs of magic. A Zombie Dragon is a fearful proposition in battle, not only for its dagger-like talons and fangs but also for its breath, which is so foetid and foul that it can melt clean through sanctified armour. These undead creatures are considered a hideous desecration by living drakes, and even the Revenant Draconith of the Soulblight dynasties will turn on them with uncanny viciousness.
Undead draconith are somehow violently racist against their fellow undead drakes.

Anyone got the 2e/3e CoS codex?

>>96333537
All the autists are vindicated, zombie dragons are officially wyverns

>>96333510
>you now remember 3e Stormcast where the main way to play on launch was Dracoth spam, which wasn't even possible priot to the tome
>guy writing the book braged on social media abouted owining like 20 dracoths

>>96333586
Ben Johnson?

>>96333510
FEC are also the faction that got treated the best fluffwise
The only thing missing is for them to become the favourite faction of the sculptors too

>AoS 6th edition is freeguilds vs courts
>the freeguild side of the starter set is a ditect 1:1 mirror of each and every individual ghoul minis of the other side, so that either side can claim the other is the ghouls, focusing on the more chivalrous designs of the cities of sigmar (arch knights, monks, pegasi, etc)
>redone crypt ghouls in the starter
>redone horrors to have broken knights armors on them
>redone terrorgheist in the post starter wave
>also redone royal drakes (it's actually wyvern corpses they believe are noble dragons, like explicitly written so in the canon, also so the undead draconith are special)
>big special character of the ghouls wave is ushoran's royal consort, who was cursed to be stuck inside a mirror
>his wife is actually just ushoran's literal reflection in the giant mirror the courtesans push around for him

>>96333586
Hey why DID 3e seem to be the dragon edition? Seemed like almost everyone had a dragon

>>96333604
>It comes with a mirrored poster where on the other side you see the FEC's POV

>>96333574
If anything it says wyverns are a type of dragons.

>>96333604
It would suck for zombie fans, but it would be unrivalled kino for everyone else.

>>96332190
>>96332468
Is there mention of Valkyia by any chance or have they scrap that off

>>96333537
if dragons weren't violently racist towards each other then they wouldn't speciate into all the kinds we know.

>>96333537
It reads like they're aggressive towards them not because they're lesser breeds of dragons, but because raising a dragon corpse as a mindless zombie is an unforgivable sin instead of raising them at the very least as intelligent wights

>>96333537
>dragon species can be separated between the ones that go die in communal graveyards together with other dragon species, and "nobler" dragon species with, so far, unspecified funerary practices, who don't end up in the same graveyards
I'm writing this one down, it sounds important for my classification and history of dragons

>>96333606
It may be a meme to say nothing has happened during the era of the beast, but many factions did get, in fact, quite some beasts.

>>96333510
>>96333586
The new age Matt Wards strike

>>96333699
Why is the pic mirrored?

>>96330088
GW sculpters tend to regularly suck asshole at faces , but also I'm not entirely worried if I can't goon for a character to be worth my time. Not even normalfags are that hung up. It's pussy behavior.

>>96333414
Thanks for all the advice anon, appreciate it
>>96333418
Never seen blue khorne before, cool scheme
>>96333586
Please tell me this is true

>>96333875
I don't like it when thumbnails give their backs to the post

>>96333554
https://files dot fm/u/nabk3v76gs

>>96333537
what is the relation between draconiths, stardrakes, drakes, dragons etc in AoS anyway ? Are they all dracothion's descendants ?

>>96333984
dracothion is the direct father of all stadrakes, and he was the grandfather of a number of other dragon species, like draconith, argentine (the bigger wyrm in the back) was also his child.

It's unclear wether he's the father of ALL kinds of draconic species, or just some of the main ones, but he's called the father of dragons.

>>96334050
Those arts got a tonn of hate, but honestly it is cool as fuck, wish we got more of that, and less of potatosack wearing grimderp

>>96334111
I feel that.

>>96334129
I don't, even if the concept wasn't inherently to discard, the presentation, especially at such a nebulous time for the setting, was awful

>>96334111
>>96334129
They have a kind of nostalgic charm but they were godawful if we're being honest. There's some good ideas but in the end it was a so-so idea with terrible execution. Again, it's not like I don't enjoy seeing them come up but I'm glad we've got actual maps now.

>>96333984
Dracothion is said to be the Grandfather of ever type of drakes

Stark drake are the direct children with Draconiths theorized to be like Star Drake Jr who haven't reborn as a proper Star Drakes

Draconiths are the ghur wizard dragons who claim to be all descendant of a mighty titan dragon (i can't remember the name rn) who was one of Dracothion kids. That dragon skull was made the former capital city of the Draconiths before Kragnos

There various other dragons who relations is murky at best
>Dark elf dragons in COS are bio-engineer creatures they're the cruel black serpents of Narkath mention above. They based on the OG ulgu dragons but no lore on them exactly
>various port over creature from TOW such as Sun dragon, Moon dragon, magma dragon, Toad dragon & Frostwyrm not much lore how just they still exist

Wish there was a way to get an additional artefact, hero customisation was my jam

pre-orders are up btw. Probably got leaked earlier, but both new characters are 32.5 yuros or 40 burgerbucks. Knight of shrouds is €31.50/$38, more than I expected from him desu. Scarlet jury is 70/90, which is a decent discount.

Ushoran 450
GK on Terrorgheist 350
Terrorgheist 230

>>96334192
>>96334050
>>96334129
The way the realms were presented in proto editions of AoS always reminded me of Sacrefice. It's a third person strategy, set on floating lands, which were the remnants of the old world destroyed by a powerful wizard. In that game several dieties fought between each other for influence over the lands in the form of souls and followers.
Too bad most of early art in AoS sucked ass. I would've preferred crazy chaotic landscapes over basic bitch dnd maps

>>96334344
vargulf 130

>>96334412
Cryptguard still 100pts

>>96334403
that does sound fairly similar to aos honestly, especially early editions

>kurnoth archers use little treestumps with feet to carry their ammo/quiver
So fucking kino

>>96334403
Yeah early AoS looked janky. I liked the whole way maps showed floating cities and gave use an understanding of how a realm would look(they need to keep doing this an alot) but it went too high fantasy with it.
Like it's fine if it was like around the edges of the Realm because that shot gets wonky but not every realm should always be "floating mass of land".

>>96334520
*always be filled.
I need to proof read but point is, it's fine to have something like Ghur, which had a "sentient" mountain

>>96334500
The little bug bros, yeah. Quiverlings like those are spites, spirits of Life magic. All the insect buddies in the Sylvaneth army, from those tiny arrow carriers to the giant beetle ridden by Alarielle, are all spites. But that's pigeonholing spites a little since they can look like just about anything, like little pixies or like some straight up elemental force. They have their own Spite Monarch somewhere in Ghyran, he's an ally of Alarielle's.

>>96334548
Sylvaneth really is a like top 3 army in terms of lore, modeling, and soul.

1st edition question here.
>Instead of making a single wound roll, roll a dice and make a number of wound rolls equal to the number scored
Does this mean one model receives multiple wound rolls that it needs to pass, or does it mean the squad takes that mane wound rolls?

>>96334562
NTA but yeah they are one of my three favorite Order factions, alongside Fyreslayers and Stormcasts

>>96334586
Was the shock bolt bow only the leader model? I remember something like this but otherwise it's d6 per shockbow bolt wound rolls.

>>96334546
I don't think living mountains are that "out there" in AoS fluff. In the Realmgate Wars it was said that Ghyran had "jotunbergs" that traveled around the realm to bring winter season to the Jade Kingdoms. And apparently some of the lords of the Sylvaneth glades, though they might have not been literal mountains, were said to possess bodies as large. And of course there's the whole deal with the Lumineth's disciples of the Alarith temple, demonstrating that most if not all mountains in Hysh are metaphysical, intelligent entities, and this was also demonstrated to be the case in Chamon during Broken Realms.

Beastgrave has a lot of company even beyond Ghur.

>>96334562
GW is not gonna expand on Spites btw. Next up are the elf centaurs.

>>96334599
Based 1e boomer.

>>96334609
Well... ironically I was an AoS Hater but now it has grown on to me.

>>96334562
Top 1 imo.
If somone was to make an actually good AoS game, the Order factions that should 100% be present to create the right first impression on people, are Sylvaneth, Kharadrons, and either CoS or SCE (better if its CoS with SCE auxiliaries)

>>96334600
"...1 in every 5 models may instead be armed with
either a Shockbolt Bow..."

>>96334609
I used to think grogs and oldhammer boomers are weirdos when i first got into AoS around 2017, but now, seeing how and in which direction the game changed, I understand them.
Theres no anymosity or desire to ragebait them anymore, just a sense of weird kinship

>>96334562
yeah, sylvaneth really are in the top tree

>>96334686
It'd be SCE over CoS simply because they're the poster boys of the game

>>96334714
Im saying what SHOULD be done, not what GW would want to do

>>96334562
Easily, just a very cool army. Also one of the few "fantasy faction but different" armies that both sets itself apart and still works really well in terms of variety and cohesion.
>>96334618
>AoS hater
>now loves fyreslayers and stormcast
that's quite the journey.

fucked up that AoS has been around long enough for there to be Oldmar and Numar.

>>96334757
I think that's less to do with age and more to do with the sharp turns its development has taken between editions.

>>96334686
I think in a case like that the factions should be chosen not just to showcase what's the best out of what's in aos, but also what's unique about aos compared to other settings and what's iconic and exemplary of aos' elements in itself.
and at those jobs trees aren't good at it because they don't really offer that much that's truly new, not too unlike to how lizardmen, on the other hand, while still a very fresh idea, aren't really good representatives of aos as a whole.
plus, you end up needing to round out your selection or representatives so that the representatives themselves aren't to redundant with each other (it wouldn't be a very good choice to select, say, just stormcasts, khorne, ironjaws and ossiarchs. they're almost parallel in certain ways, it would be like showing the same thing with a reskin)

I think idoneth are simply the most ideal selection to represent the elves of aos: you get a loosely familiar hook (atlantis people) with a twist (half soulled), and some cool designs here and there (armors, weapons), they explore the history of the elves in aos (slaanesh) and the tense relations and grey areas that there can be even in the alliance of good guys (soul stealing and memory wipes)

>>96334606
That's fine. The bug rider dudes were a sick addition so I'm sure they'll score another dub and centaurs are cool

>>96334757
What are you talking about? aos has been around for just 3-4 years

>>96334793
I cannot lie, a Kharadron vs Idoneth campaign in a Warcraft3 style RTS game would be pure kino.
You could even include the Underwolrd Glub shittos throught the mercenary mechanic

>>96334806
Man remember when they dropped all support for Warhammer Fantasy and now there's NO WAY to play with fantasy models? Sigh, this new world of sigmarines is so cringe, I want to go back to the old world...

>>96334830
>Burns my fantasy minis and makes a video of my tantrum

>>96334866
>later make a stormcast army on square bases to play fantasy tourneys

>>96334696
Funny to think it's been 10 damn years and we're nostalgic for 1e now.

>>96334757
Like >>96334768 said it's more the radical shift in design between editions, and even between 2015 launch aos and 2016 ghb aos that makes it so different. 40k hasn't changed that much in feel from 8th to 10th, with 11th coming soon. Well, at least from an outsider's pov.
>>96334866
>>96334902
Fuck you beat me to it, the channel has batreps with stormcasts proxied as ogres, funniest shit.
to be fair to the youtuber in question, I think that was actually his friend doing the army-burning, not himself

>>96334963
AoS newcomer here, what are the radical design shifts you mentioned?

>>96334963
>>96334902
I thought that was a joke holy fuck

>>96334974
Not OP but.
The game has become increasinglt more about optimization and comptettive listbuilding. Just take any army 4th edition Battletome, and Compare the amount of Artefacts, Command traits, Army rules, Unit special rules, and Faction specifica battleplans (literally zero of those in 4th) to the amount of stuff in any 1st edition Battletome

>>96334996
For fucks sake, Stormcasts were devidded into 3! different battletomes, and each of them had like twice the amount of content a Single 4th edition one has

>wow man this spearhead is so cool
>these models rule and go together well
>get to tree revs
>wanna seppuku
>half the sprue numbers are wrong and I had to interlock some vines just to get one torso half together
Man I am never touching dryads unless I buy them prebuilt

>>96335004
how much of that was actual content and not filler to ship more books?

>>96334974
In terms of worldbuilding, the approach to the setting has become a lot more grounded. It's still a very high fantasy world, flowing into the mythological, but we started to see it more and more through the eyes of everyday "normal" people. For example, see the difference in maps put out in the modern day vs examples of """maps""" on launch you can see higher up in the thread. This has its pros and cons (sometimes modern day aos is a bit too mudcore imo).
In terms of minis, you can really see the transition from rank n flank to round skirmish. Lots of the early minis released had a way more rigid look. See early liberators and infamously slayers. There's a reason they primaris'd the stormcast like 6 years after release.
Also the way the game is structured in general, early aos used to center around grand alliances a lot more. Lots of soup 'armies' (you weren't really supposed to play them alone, but the webstore listed several armies like swifthawk agents or whatever with like 3 units). Pestilens, bonesplitterz, beastclaw raiders getting their own battletomes, stuff like that. They consolidated it to the much more standard battletomes we have now.

>>96335031
just the 18 artefacts, not countingMystic lights, Magic banners, and Mount traits (6 for each of the 3 mount types) 2 battleplans, and all the stuff you need to create custom Path to glory armies and heroes without a separate fullprice book.
And thats just only the basic stormcast one, not counting Extremis

Is the Evergreen Hunt AoR still a thing in 4th or do we just bring Belthanos along like a normal hero now?

>>96334963
But did he choose the music

>>96335051
One more question, what's mudcore?

>>96335090
Its when "Oooh look we are so grimdark, we are like 40k but better!" See Trench crusade.
Theres a good way to do so (see left) and bad way (see right) both are AoS cannon

>>96335070
Technically, the Dawnbringer armies are still legal.

>>96335051
I honestly don't mind the slight mudcore fantasy when it's applicable
>>96335090
Low-mid fantasy with an emphasis on gritty, dirty realism. Like imagine medieval England but sometimes there's a dragon

>>96335070
Still an option. Replaces some army rules and limits your list but has neat effects.

>>96335113
>>96335121
Oh good, was worried I'd lose out on like the only way to actually play something even slight Kurnothi in this game.

>>96335124
Not sure what you mean by that since kurnoth are by far the dominant playstyle this edition unless you're using alarielle. Unless you're not counting tremendous as kurnoth

>>96335124
If you want to play a proper Kurnothi force you should play Warcry, then you can do it properly (plus you get an awesome looking warband while doing so!).

>>96335160
>want to play cool tree brick houses
>anon suggests I play a dead game with 2 twinks in my force
No

>>96335090
It's when there's a focus on making things terrible, miserable, pathetic and sometimes quite literally dirty in a misguided attempt to appeal to a desire for more realistic and down to earth stuff.

>>96335168
It's literally all canon Kurnothi units so it's far more loyal to the idea of playing them then slapping down a fuckton of Dryads and Treemen and going "oh and this lot are Kurnothi! I know they aren't related to that group at all but they totally are for reals now bro!"

>>96335168
>dead game
>I can't play games that already exist and have a load of content
>I must ceaselessly meta-chase and CONSUME

>>96335183
You can just play Warcry with ALL kurnoth hunters, they already pretty much do everything you would want, only issue is lowe action economy

>>96335111
>>96335115
>>96335173
Maybe it's because I only play 1st and have only dabbled in 3rd, but I thought of AoS as a more noblebright setting. But hey, I learned a new word today, so thanks.

>>96335198
This is true, I won't debate that. But centaurelfs are now a big part of the Kurnothi so it fits the idea of playing them to have one.

>>96335202
It's still noblebright out the tits but the writers tend to use the dark, gritty side of the mudcore aesthetic to make the good characters extra bright and noble.
Just look at Gardus as an example.

>>96335202
>AoS as a more noblebright setting.
it still is.
But GW is on steady tracks to go away from it, because suits see "it doesnt sell as well as 40k, make it more like 40k".

To be completely honest. I think AoS would benefit from being owned by another company, and not having "Warhammer" in the name

>>96335215
Everything GW owns would be better without GW owning it...

>>96335192
>literally fucking nobody at any of of the 4 LGS play this
Look man maybe it's not dead in whatever bizarre ass realm you live in. But a game not getting a fucking lick of attention for 2 years does tend to dry up enthusiasm. It's how these games keep going. There's 1 guy who will play with me but I never liked the idea of it not being a chaos thunderdome game even if they planned SCE early, it was so much more kino

>>96335202
>>96335210
Is aos really noblebright, even in 1st ? We're talking about a post-apocalyptic world here, I'd say it's nobledark (or maybe grimbright idk, the one where the world may be shit but there are people genuinely trying to do the right thing, and there's at least some bit of hope that they might succeed).

>>96334768
It's only certain armies like CoS/BoC, but CoS did a lot of the heavy lifting for the setting so retconning it struck a blow to the foundations.
Apparently most of the cities are getting nuked this edition so it'll get worse. Haha enjoyed following the beginning of the setting since Seasons of War? Fuck off, buy product.

>>96335215
I think GW would benefit from being run by people with passion and not midwit c-suite suits chasing infinitely greater profit margins.

>>96335224
Helsmiths are getting Warcry rules upon their release, therefore not dead. Simple as. Suck my toad.

>But a game not getting a fucking lick of attention for 2 years does tend to dry up enthusiasm
So you confess to being a zoom zoom who needs to CONSUME at all times to enjoy a game? Noted.

>>96335233
I want Warcry to get a new edition so it has new cover art but have it be a KT 2e - 3e situation where rules barely change

>>96335233
HoH getting pity rules hardly counts. And no, but your acting like you'd be shocked to find out nobody plays dreadwing or RT at locals. Man get some new content, if you're over 30 you sound pathetic

>>96335215
This is what got me less interested in AoS back in my AoS hating days and even now that I love the setting, I HATE that "trying to be more 40k than 40k".

>>96335240
ZOOM
ZOOM
ZOOM
CONSUME
CONSUME
CONSUME

>>96335250
Meds please

>>96335202
even if the setting at large has a higher tone, various corners can be somewhat different, exemplary of a mudcore direction is the redesign of the cities of sigmar, where the fluff, art and models quite revel in showing them as the battered, ugly, tired and bruised underdog common man, rather than a more professional and clean fighting force

mudcore is not always misery porn or a derogatory term though, even in the cos case it's not just pity for pity's sake, the common man narrative serves to establish the niche of the faction and to make the battle of these dudes not just one of practical logistics and martial strength, but also one of faith when facing what appear to be impossible odds

>>96335225
>Is aos really noblebright, even in 1st ?
As the only person on the planet who bothered to read the Realmgate series and the attached shorts and novels during that time? No, fuck no.

AoS is a Post-Post Apocalyptic fantasy. It’s a setting that’s heavily inured to loss, pain, suffering, and determination. Every single aspect of the setting and its themes are built on a foundation of that. The vast majority of the factions and people of AoS are decidedly determined to live because all of them understand what it is to not have their goals fulfilled and or outright crushed in front of them. Even the new races and cultures and species that are AoS “only” have that included in their ingredients. In AoS you will get the absolute fucking shit kicked out of you but if you’re determined enough, possessed of enough will, and the fortitude to suffer you might be a torso by the end of it but you will have made meaningful progress planting the seeds for the next crop of suffers and strugglers.
Like even the fucking early hedonites of slaanesh were the most blatant example of this and their never ending chase of always having their balls tickled by the phantom pain of slaanesh. But people were too busy jerking each other off about their GW killing slaanesh conspiracies

AoS is not noblebright but it’s not a setting built on existing out of spite in 40k’s case or whatever the fuck WHFB was doing don’t ask me I don’t have flattering opinions on that

Are there any of these 'core region' maps for azyr? Like the great parch, ghurish heartlands, etc. Seen one for every realm but azyr.

>>96335168
Your area sucks. We have weekly Warcry nights

>>96335281
Not yet I just hope they don’t turn it into Terra and wait for the siege of Azyr to do that. I hope it gets to exists as a place before that then I might care about whichever dickhead faction gets to loot Sigmar for the 90000000th time this week

>>96335271
This is why Cities is the GOAT

>>96335281
nope, azyr is forbidden territory so far
it seems like they're reserving invading into it (and sigmar as a playable model) a major plot point

>>96335303
Sigmar is a god... but also... the emperor....

>>96335240
Why would they get pity rules? It means the lead designer vacuum has been filled

>>96335274
Counter point: AoS 1e had
>the apocalypse being reverted and civilisation restored with the help of demigod humans
>chaos champions being redeemed and purified
>gods resurrected and freed to rejoin their former alliance
>mannfred is a good guy

>>96335274
I don't think whfb was ever really grimdark tier, just standard dark fantasy. But yeah neither is aos, at least for now.
>>96335287
>>96335303
The breaching of azyr seems like a prime plot point for a new edition, hell who knows maybe we'll see sacrosanct return in 5th. Chorfs built a big fuck off gun and blew a whole in its defenses or something.

>>96335317
he's the god-king, not the god-emperor, it's completely different

>>96335347
>>mannfred is a good guy

>>96335364
It's true. He spends his RGW books reflecting on his past as a hero of Order and then doing what he can to rescue his ancient bro who is now a Stormcast without memories of him
GW scrapped everything Reynolds wrote for him alongside his End Times contemplations of what he might've been, though, because soulless nostalgia for a setting they nuked

>>96335409
>his ancient bro

>>96331740
Now I have to dig up that tutorial I found about painting guts..

>>96335347
>the apocalypse being reverted and civilisation restored with the help of demigod humans
This is just an event. You’ve shriven clear of all context like the numerous confirmed genocided and extinct cultures a couple you get to watch happen or the phryric victories those people won that mirrored the Stormcast in the way that they got what they were looking for but lost so much in the process that they have to completely reinvent themselves or die

>chaos champions being redeemed and purified
Even the most “good boys” of the Stormcast hosts on majority despised him or mistrusted him nor does this speak of the immense turmoil the redeemed went through during, before, or after. It’s never presented as a singularly good thing

>gods resurrected and freed to rejoin their former alliance
Every single god spit on the ground at the idea of even vaguely reforming the pantheon. Allairele has PTSD from the death of like six realms at this point if you include all the WFB lore, Teclis was so ass mad about the his math machines being turned into retard machines that he let sigmar handle the soul wars by himself and the forbidden power and malign sorcery and malign portents up until Nagash was about to win the soul wars decisively even after getting ratfucked.

>mannfred is a good guy
If you read the realmgate books and then the further books and his involvements up until that library story with Balthazar and didn’t take away from it that Mannfred is primarily a lying jackass who’s lies to himself is what gets him fucked every single time then he’s an even better liar than I though

>>96335354
It just feels way too early. I feel like GW has better things they could be doing. I understand 40k and WFB’s appeal with the 1 million plot lines and their consequences but I appreciate the comparative focus of AoS even if it makes the rest of the setting feel bare if that makes sense

>>96335434
>>96335476
Balthazar isn't his bro, it's Tarsus. Retards.

>>96335434
Tarsus is who he’s talking about not Gelt.

>>96335489
I never said Gelt was his bro dickhead

>>96335476
>1st edition was grimderp because... 2nd edition lore
Sure thing

>>96335501
At what point in any of my two posts am I describing grimderp

>>96335505
1st edition is noblebright. You're arguing it isn't because 2nd edition material

>>96335511
What does noble bright mean

>>96335516
The opposite of grimdark

>>96335525
Never mind you got bro

>>96335484
Yeah who knows we'll see. I guess when the end of the edition narrative stuff drops we'll get some hints about the major events of 5th. If the pattern holds it'll be death related, but admittedly we don't have a lot to go off of.
>>96335511
>>96335516
I'm not that familiar with the terms either but from what I can gather online I think aos fits pretty squarely in nobledark

WHFB: The Withering Tree of Hope
AoS: picrel

>>96333510
Tbh I think the nh tome broke me. I'm not even a fan of nighthaunt that much but in the back of my mind I was hoping this was all just a terrible experiment or that they had made a mistake and were working on making the game better, that they were going to add more enhancements, some fun mechanic creep, maybe slowly start to put in more creative ways to reduce damage in the game.

Nah, they like the over-by-turn-2 slop fest. Let's jam more ward stripping into the game. That enhancement that looks half decent? Fuck it, 40 points. Now you should take the boring ones instead of us having to introduce new ideas. That faction with unique mechanics? Fuck thattttttttt, gotta keep the battle traits to 3 paragraphs max, with all of them being passives, and one of them is a skill that you already had last edition as a subfaction or minor enhancement.

This is like some sort of sick parody of what 10th was for 40k but taken to the next level for really no fucking reason. If people couldn't bother to learn the rules of the game then why are they even fuckin' playing? If you're actually excited about the game it shouldn't feel like a chore to play for you. This team is incapable of delivering a solid 5th edition because they're not even attempting to course correct on 4th. Spearhead+ is the new future.

Because my opinion is inherently superior to yours, I don't have to care about your faction since it is irrelevant.
You can't stop me.

>Candip (Ruined)
For fuck's sake, Held.

>The Veritate, Questors of the Tempest Lords Stormhost, return to the Solune Mesas — their ancestral lands in Xintil. They marvel to find their descendants alive, albeit having abandoned their original faith for a form of sun worship. Seeking to establish bonds, the Questors attend a solar rite atop the highest mesa. Yet the ceremony's nature soon becomes apparent: worshippers burn their eyes out in bloody offering or turn blades on the Stormcasts with mad abandon. As they do so, the outline of a terrible winged seraph, the object of the tribe's veneration, appears in the sky, shining crimson. Beneath its gaze, the Stormcasts fight — but not for long.
It's like that shitty feeling of meeting family after a long time apart and finding out they fell down some shitpit rabbit hole online and are terrible people now.

Currently weighing the pros and cons of writing Aos fan fiction stuff on royal road.

>>96335751
I’m probably going to run a quest on qst or fic.live
Was about some Ghurite jackass running around following the stars, exploring Ghur, slaying monsters and shit, fucking Aelves, falling into realmgates. Episodic tales until I get bored and start jerking off and trying to create some over arching plot

>>96335731
why is gw like this?

>>96335835
>>96335835
>>96335835
new new new new new new new new new new new new nwe new new new new new new new

>>96335833
I really want to chalk it up to it being the edgy downturn in the story before the uplifting rise of order but I dunno...

>>96335842
>It's like that shitty feeling of meeting family after a long time apart and finding out they fell down some shitpit rabbit hole online and are terrible people now.
I'm talking about these cringe fucking allegory stories. Some anon was arguing with me that Stormcast somehow isn't a paperthin excuse for projection and self-insert your personal problems into the game.
I can't bring myself to make a story for my guys because of this gay shit.

>>96335731
>winged seraph
What could this be?

>>96333586
The way to play it was stormdrakes for like a year dingus.