Thread 713052281

>>713052281 (OP)
when the mom is kiss goodnight

This is a Dess thread now. Post your favorite Desses.

>>713052281 (OP)
This game has countless thousands of actual fan art pictures yet you choose a wojack edit. Pathetic

I really loved the Old Man in chapter 4 but I rarely see him talked about here.

>>713055204
He came and left as the single best character in the game and there's not much to discuss beyond this

>>713055204
you must have missed the early threads then.

>>713055043
What

>>713055204
>>>/wsg/5901210
Kris' entrance was the absolute sickest

>>713055280
I did

>>713056613
>smoking AND has braces
Be still my cock

>>713056613
2 > 1 > 3

>>713055043
>this is the guy who created the most popular indie game of all time

>>713058465
who?

>>713058562
Toby """"Radiation"""" Fox

I want to believe the quotes we find in the code are Dess before she's turned into the Knight and we only get to read about the fucked up process from her perspective

>>713055043
>someone said some edgy things when he was a teenager
news at 20

>>713058962
>deleted

Okay, I've been out for a couple of days. What happened here? Seems like desolate desert.

>>713060675
the other thread is dying, wait for them to come over here

I just played the demo after avoiding it for so long, I love Ralsei, can we date him? Kiss him??

>>713060924
thats gay

>>713055043
these are low-tier mental gymnastics for a leftist

>>713060924
You can hug him a lot. And you should.

>>713054838
she makes me swoon...

>>713060924
unironically? give it some time

>>713060924
You can make him smile

>work remotely in Indiana, although I drive to my office HQ every couple months (few hour drive)
>currently live in childhood home with my parents
>my family isn't very clean and also my parents are on the path to divorce
>basically work and live in my childhood bedroom
>rurally located, so difficult to routinely go to the gym or anything like that without a lot of driving, which almost makes remote work a moot benefit
I've decided I want to move but I don't really know how to start apartment hunting. My job HQ is near o hare airport in Chicago. It'd make sense to move closer to my job but actual Chicago rents seem pretty expensive. I want to have nice amenities like a decent kitchen & bathroom, but I don't really care about it being close to nightlife or "entertainment" or whatever since I'm introverted. Curious if anyone has general advice about how to approach this. I love deltarune

>>713052281 (OP)
THE KNIGHT IS NOT DESS ITS PAPYRUS
>stated to be incredibly strong in undertale
>gullible and seeks admiration from authority figures like Asgore and the royal guard in Undertale. This could translate to him being manipulated by the mayor to do the dirty work of being the knight
>The knife staircase move resembles a move sans has.
>Pic related could not be possible for someone like dess or Carol to do. They would have to delete their torso. Papyrus could have shifted a few bones around and done this just fine
>The knight never breaks the soul just like how Papyrus doesn't destroy your soul in undertale
>The knight's body armor looks like Papyrus's battle body.
>The helmet could just be an insignia of his alliance to the holiday family
>Carol has been working on the festival all week and thus couldn't have been the knight.
>Dess is probably dead or stuck in a dark world. Either way, she's in no condition to be the knight.
THE KNIGHT IS A PAPYRUS THAT GOT MANIPULATED TO HIS IS GREAT POTENTIAL FOR EVIL. HE'S THE GUY THAT DOES THE DIRTY WORK AND WILL SERVE AS THE SCAPE GOAT IF THE PLAN GOES TO SHIT

>>713060924
you can only hug him
... so far

>>713052281 (OP)
This is the thread.

>>713061372
What if it was Dess though

>>713054838
god i wish this was me

place your bets
how is susie going to find out, and what is she going to do when she does?

>>713058465
now now, we all know the most popular CHICKENJOCKEY indie game of all time was made by a beloved fat swedish chud, not this poser reformed baseddarling.

>>713054838
Built for big human cock

>>713055043
So what's "negrotown" supposed to be in Deltarune?

>>713061648
That's so fucking hot, jeez

>>713061372
that would be really stupid from a story perspective
but UT fans would lap it up unquestioningly

>>713054838
that's a really good dess
each dess design I see I get sadder because I know the official one won't look as good

>>713061739
the dark worlds, duh

>>713061662
>what is she going to do when she does
Freaks out
Bangs over eyes
Gets really angry
Pulls axe on Kris
Ralsei jumps in front of Kris, says he knew everything too and asks Susie to kill him, but spare Kris
Susie slumps down and starts crying

>>713061662
I'm betting "Someone" will just so happen to leave a diary out that also just so happens to name Kris as a collaborator with them. And then Susie fights Kris for like a few turns before she storms off. Maybe Kris will be able to pin blame on (You) but IDK

>>713061826
>because I know the official one won't look as good
People said the same about Tenna and Carol and they raped every single fan design

>>713061959
built for being hugged by my vessel after i beat the shit out of him

>>713061739
Detroit ofc

>>713061992
carol only looks good in fanart

If we don't get any pay off with the Forgotten Man I'm going to be really fucking angry

>>713061361
Move in with me and be my femboy bf. Or I'll be your femboy bf. Either way we split the cost down the middle.

>>713061662
Susie will be the end boss of a major chapter, specifically chapter six as hinted by Gerson saying she holds the white pen of hope. There's no denying this, I fear.

She will reconcile with Kris in the normal route and die in the weird route.

Anyway, bosses are:
Chapter 5: Asgore
Chapter 6: Susie
Chapter 7: Dess
Chapter 7 Weird: Kris
Chapter 8: Noelle

>>713061692
Notch was woke when he made Minecraft, he only became a chud after his wife left him.

>>713061826
>that would be really stupid from a story perspective
too many theorycrafters forget that there's rules to storytelling and tying huge plot points to random ass characters with zero presence in the narrative up until now is usually bad writing. it's ok to break these rules if you have a good reason for it, but "dude it's the guy from undertale!!!" is not a good reason

>>713061662
I'm betting 20 points she finds out once Kris inevitably has to turn on her and at first be hesitant to fight back to then (attempting) to beat him within an inch of his life

anons after relistening to Megalovania again and remembering how fucking KINO the sans fight is the dog has now my full faith he will deliver
believe in the me that believes in that mutt

>>713062190
huh, i guess they switched spots then. toby went from edgy to woke, notch went from woke to chud.

Dang, Joel just barely missed the opportunity to cuck the doe in his playthrough. At least he rubbed the tea party in her face.

>>713062193
nigga it's a keyhole

>>713062195
if your gonna do that then seam is perfect

>>713062195
Gasterbros...

>>713061704
Toby is talking about the videos with live action Spamton that were done by an outside group. The actual ARG is all 100% canon. THIS is what's non-canon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61zGGtTdv5s

>>713054838
dess is toby's adoption of fanon chara

>>713062212
it does hit quite hard when you take the time away to appreciate it. funny how he wrote it when he was sixteen and he probably won't ever surpass it.

>>713060924
Careful... it's lewd

>>713062312
that'd be so fucking hot

I think people aren't realizing just how much shit Susie's going to be absolutely fucking livid about
Like, both Kris and Ralsei are aware of
>(You)r shenanigans
>Kris's collaboration with the Knight, willing or not
>Likely some deeper knowledge on the nature of Dark Worlds and whatever the fuck (You) are in general
There's like three layers of secretive bullshit going on that's being hid from someone who had a breakdown over ONE. At most, you could probably excuse the explanation on ((You) with the fact that Ralsei might not know if (You) can be fully trusted (and Kris being generally unable to communicate any of this without shenanigans) but all of this shit compounding is going to break her heart.

FOUR HEROES

>>713062305
idk how anyone can claim the ARG isn't canon when he updated it a couple months before chapter 4 came out with pages that would end up being direct references to things in chapter 4

>>713055043
His post is quite progressive for its time to be honest.+ There's nothing weird about someone saying edgy stuff when he was a teenager.

>>713062364
Anon, that's a keyhole.

ParaSOULcial

>>713062432
Ok. And? That's just Toby saying that you don't need outside sources to get full context when the full game is complete. Until that point, we need the supplementary material to obtain context for what's happening.

Wait so you guys seriously arent allowed to talk about this video game on the video game board so you have to have stealth threads? Stealth threads to talk about a video game? lmao what a fucking joke. Gas all the mods and gas all /v/irgins too so you stop shitting up /vg/.

>>713054838
All Desses are my favorite Desses.

>>713062496
>Say fellas, do any of you know the key to the Fountain of Darkness?

>>713062528
>That's just Toby saying [headcanon]
take meds and view reality

Kris' delicious twink body...

Remember.
I dick, therefore I am.

I am just devouring all this edgy deer content

>>713062529
this is a nice seam

>>713062359
I just hope she realizes a lot of the fun moments we had were because of (Me). Sure, Kris can be a goblin with you when it comes to food, but (I) was the one shining in the dark against the knight, (I) was the one to go along with her weird ACTs and (I) was the one to choose funny options that made her laugh

am I the only autist who keeps the "Cuteness" and "Fluffiness UP" stuff equipped on Ralsei in the hope that it will eventually change some dialogue?

>>713062429
>>713062435
But see, I have more.
From the REAL prophecy:
>THE FIRST HERO.
>THE CAGE, WITH HUMAN SOUL AND PARTS!
>THE SECOND HERO.
>THE GIRL, WITH HOPE CROSSED ON HER HEART.
>THE THIRD HERO.
>THE PRINCE, ALONE IN DEEPEST DARK.
>AND LAST, WAS THE GIRL.
>AT LAST, WAS THE GIRL.

If the girl isn't a hero, why end the enumeration with her?

>>713062529
I agree with you but:
>/v/ shitting up /vg/
Lol
Lmao even

>>713062364
>AND LAST, WAS THE GIRL
>AT LAST, WAS THE GIRL

Will chapter 5 be as light as chapter 2 and 3? Or will it be even heavier than chapter 4?

>>713062496
>I KNOW NOW, WITHOUT A DOUBT
>THAT DELTARUNE...
>WILL NEVER BE FINISHED BEFORE THE PERSON READING THIS DIES!

>>713062496
>I'm me, he says

>>713062529
janny's been mad all day, seems deltarune hit the arbitrary YOUR POSTING TOO LONG threshold so a mixture of mod and janitor activity today kept sweeping any deltarune thread off the catalog as they were made

funny enough one with a fucking AI image was ignored and allowed to archive naturally, and a couple of them came with somebody bragging about following the threads and spamming reports
>/v/ shitting up /vg/
nvm bait

>>713055043
He's so obnoxious

>>713062528
This must be what arguing with a lawyer is like. You're Bill Oakley

>>713061826
then explain how the hell dess or carol would work as the knight? How the hell would dess go missing for years, not being there for her sister while she's growing up, and then appear as a knight to fuck shit up? It's nonsensical. Carol makes even less sense when you remember she has a festival to run along with all the other crap she has to maintain. It simply makes sense for a family as rich and powerful as the holidays to hire someone else to do the dirty work of opening fountains than to do it themselves. Hell Toby could find some way to fit themes of control and manipulation, creating a parallel to the weird route in some way.

>>713054838
I've become a man obsessed. Fuck Gaster, I see Dess in everything now. She's the Knight. She's who FRIEND is serving. She set up the Secret Bosses. It's all her.

>In the game, Friend shows up in the secret boss stuff.
>It has similarities to Seam.
>Asriel knew Seam, but Seam doesn't fit Asriel's vibe.
>Seam does fit with Dess' vibe though
>Dess has frayed yarn and buttons in her pile of violent things.
>Dess was alone in the dark for years
>Friend seems to primarily be a disembodied face that can appear on things in the Dark
Friend being something Dess made up in her desperation based on her old toy is just too fitting here.

And from that, other parts fall into place
>Dess sent all the glitched game stuff to Noelle to try and reach out to her back before she went mad and became the Knight
>Dess eventually became the Knight (possibly with Gaster or Friend's help)
>The Knight set up the secret boss stuff while also playing her role in the Prophecy
>The Friends are present cause she left them there to keep watch of things
>Dess fucked up Jevils mind possibly out of jealousy that Seam was friends with him
>Spamton is how he is because Dess was the one calling him, but when she stopped he tried anything to appeal to her again, including dressing himself up like Friend/Seam and becoming more "cat" like, hence him sharing an element with cats
>ERAM summons Friends because ERAM is Dess messing with Kris the same way she tried to sincerely reach out to Noelle before, but now more "Dark" because she's gone off the deep end
>Dess doesn't mess with Gerson at all cause she knows better

If you REALLY wanna bring in the demon stuff, you could say it hoped into all this by taking a form Dess would want to see, similar to Seam. Sorta like a familiar from hell taking the form of a pet for a witch.
But the point is that the Friends serving Dess as a coping mechanism is just too fucking perfect of an idea here.

Okay, but why are there two Krises in Dess' closet? I thought it was just an oversight, but Toby Fox keeps putting "Fixed an issue of trapped in the closet" in the patch notes without fixing it like it's "Removed Herobrine" or something.

>>713062637
Reminder that the AI stealth thread that got ignored also talked about Nintendo in the OP.
Absolutely comical.

>>713062529
>draw bbw ass
>call it a man

>>713062584
Sorry anon, I'm too much of a minmaxer to do that.

>>713062359
a lot of people think that susie's going to completely fly off the handle when she finds out, but these past few chapters have shown that she's pretty sensitive around people she trusts
i think she might just implode on herself, she opened up so much to kris and ralsei in such a short amount of time, and then it turns out to just be another lie from her point of view
would there even be a point of her going on anymore? or would she attempt to push herself past it and still be the hero, despite her heart being torn apart?

>>713054838
I need a going in games machine so I can marry Dess.

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>713062432
I interpret this as "the ARG is canon unless something in it eventually gets contradicted by the game".

>>713062584
not like his stats are useful for anything else

Mommy?

>>713062621
It'll start chill like the former then make you shit yourself by being worse than the latter

>>713062305
>MAY THE HYMN OF THE ANGEL
>SING THEE TO THY REST

>>713062637
>>713062608
If thats true then why do you retards keep coming to /utg/ complaining about your /v/ threads getting deleted

>>713062543
>Sora shows up in the world of Deltarune after the events of KH3
>manages to solve the entire problem, merge both worlds in a way that doesn't kill everyone, get (You) a body, fix everyone's relationship issues, and kill like four titans in the span of two days

>>713062761
we cannot control the crossposters
ask them what THEY'RE doing over on /v/............

>>713055271
this got me good

>>713062646
Honestly sex with only this vessel in particular

>>713062671
you have brain damage

>>713062383
It's typical supplementary material "soft canon" where it's either unimportant fluff that changes nothing, or if it's important it will come up in the actual game later, and the game reserves the right to contradict it without being a retcon

>>713054838
literally MADE to diddle human kids

>>713062782
>manages to solve the entire problem
Sora didn't solve shit in KH3's worlds, do you think he'll be able to fix anything here?

>>713062692
Personally I'm purchasing "Copies are monochrome but can be colored in" stock

>>713062814
>ad hominem
I accept your concession faggot

>>713062573
HOW DID THE FISH TASTE, DESS?

>>713062621
I think 4 broke the "formula," we're not getting any more Chapters where we spend most of the time with a silly goofy bad guy
5 will probably be similar to 4, the Festival is a clear opportunity for an extended Light World segment at the start but shit's going to get real at some point and I don't imagine that the Flower King Dark World will be much more pleasant than the Church was (even if it's not quite as dark and oppressive).

>>713062383
Not even a couple months before chapter 4, but rather just a few weeks.

>>713062892
i'm not the one you were talking to I just think you have brain damage

>Susie's dad is a big fat asshole dragon with a pointed tail that looks like King's (remember King literally says the same line as Susie and back in ch1 everyone assumed he was a stand-in for her dad)

> the poor children followed a pointed tail into the bunker and Dess was lost there, this was a witness report

>Susie's dad was assumed to be the killer because of his tail, and exiled from town, but in reality he was innocent and it was FRIEND who did it

>FRIEND was summoned by Catti and Noelle hatching a quantum Man Egg inside the Cat Petterz game, and is a demonic entity that tempts people with riches and success by RNG manipulation and also lures them into the deep dark

>FRIEND is associated with Susie's Dad's beating chair or whatever in her apartment because Susie's whole life was fucked up by her dad being framed for the incident that was really caused by FRIEND

>It's also why Susie is ashamed of her tail

>>713054838
where the FUCK are all the blonde desses

>See that unused enemy we put in an inaccessible place impossible to interact with?
>People made porn of it

>>713062891
I'm buying stock in fucking everything to do with the Forgotten Man in Chapters 3 and 4. It went from little easter egg to suddenly incredibly thought provoking really fast and now I need answers.

>>713062854
>do you think he'll be able to fix anything here?
Sora regularly fights gigantic titans made of pure darkness. It's literally the first boss of the first game. The keyblade alone is probably like the Black Shard on crack cocaine in terms of how much that shit hard counters darkness.

>>713062927
ew

>>713062621
Will be lighter than chapter 4 at the start due to things like the festival, but will be heavier towards the end since its setting up for the finale/final 2 chapters. Really depends, since there is a non-zero percent chance Asgore dies in chapter 5.

>>713062854
Hey, he managed to rewrite fate and prevent his friends from dying. I mean, sure, that led to him disappearing but still.

>>713062671
How is this anybody but Dess?

>>713058465
That's not Notch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f1RK1m7qvc
how the fuck is this song so GOOD
how the fuck is that dog so good at telling a story through music
how does he know exactly what to do to make you feel the way he wants
HOW DOES HE KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>>713062671
>dess
the knight is her body after being morphed/mutated by the dark for so long
her body is made of pure concentrated darkness, and can exist in the light world (black shard keeping its shape in LW, but maybe only at night or she is stronger at night time and dark places)
her mind and soul are elsewhere (and you need to find her)
it is possible that the knight is sapient and working with kris and carol
the bat is also pretty damning (but toby could throw a curveball, but that would be pretty shitty imo)

>carol
cannot be, because the knight doesnt physically act like a regular creature. carol cannot unhinge her jaw or open her ribcage
and she probably wouldnt do all the anime poses
carol is working with kris to try to find dess' soul/ego in the dark world to return her to normal

>>713062927
Ain't no way but fun to think about

>>713062720
Honestly, they both deserve to get beaten up by Susie

>>713062947
That thing wasn't unused

>>713063038
this is a ringtone lmao

I can fix her.

>>713063038
I wish I had music autism so I could be even more impressed with the bullshit he's doing here

>>713062621
If chapter 5 is the Flower shop, then I don't see any way it can be lighter in tone than the previous 4 chapters, especially with Asgore being involved.

>>713062891
I think it's more likely Kris WAS the vessel themselves, the discarding line is a red herring, that was just Asriel naming Kris and adopting a vessel from gaster's bunker and discarding the name and characteristics it came with

>>713062541
>>713062752
Do you think he regretted it at any point?

>>713062927
>blonde Dess
For some reason that sentence just conjures up a furrified Heather to me

>>713062947
>Filename:tao sfw
Where's the NSFW?

>>713063005
It could be whoever taught Dess about baseball.

Odds of Asgore surviving chapter 5?

>>713063108
If you have music autism you might rip your hair out because Tobert is fond of having like five or six different time signatures in a single song

I finally managed to just barely get into A-tier for Knock You Down
Fuckin getting sweaty over a 2 button guitar hero minigame

>>713062606
the AT LAST THERE WAS THE GIRL one may be referring to a different part of the story and not apart of the 3 heros intro, because both are actually talking about susie
it might just be describing different events that happen to each character and AT LAST might just means its the latest event in a series

>>713055043
>oh jeez this game just started riding the underground railroad down to negrotown pretty fast

>>713062972
Sora is also doggedly determined with no handler. He could probably do that cool thing that people like to forget that the Keyblade can do and just shoot open the lock to the shelter.

>>713062529
>/v/irgins too so you stop shitting up /vg/.
you can't "shit up" something that's already full of shit, Anon. /vg/ threads are like Discord servers but somehow worse.

>>713062947
Someone please post the concept art for this thing.

>>713063167
100% if he has access to his truck

>>713063042
>but toby could throw a curveball
bad move, she'd hit it for a home run

Whats the track for when the LFC does the microwave walk at the end of chapter 4

>>713063167
100% so he can continue to be pathetic until the end of the game.

>>713063139
It's on the [The usual website you've come to expect]

>>713062208
>not 30
pleb. you aren't playing the game the real way

>>713061898
>Teddy Bear was named after the US President Teddy Roosevelt
Teddy Roosevelt president timeline confirmed! Was he a monster president or a human President?

>>713063189
Remind me again. When was the last time Sora used his Keyblade as a literal key?

>>713062926
>The beating chair

>>713062679
>>Dess doesn't mess with Gerson at all cause she knows better
Gerson is truly the Tom Bombadil of the Toby Fox universe

>>713063182
Yes anon, teens used to speak like that once upon a time.

>>713062926
>Susie's mom is a big fat asshole dragon with a pointed tail
ftfy

>>713063245
Constantly actually, whenever he's tapping the Keyblade against the chest or spinning it over his head to be dramatic about opening a bigger one he's literally unlocking it. The thing's "power to open locks" is both literal and metaphorical and Kingdom Hearts does play around with a "power to open" or "power to remove barriers" almost constantly

>>713063173
Normal or Hard mode?
>>713063297
Now post the amalgamate one.

>>713063270
>Literally perfect
>Living his best life
>Comes face-to-face with an instrument that can drive literally anybody to madness and just shrugs it off as a funny little rock
Fuck me, he really is just Bombadil.

Fun fact: If Kris had a portrait sprite, it would most likely look like this fangamer pin set.

Man I can't believe Dess taught Kris how to masturbate and it made his hand fall off

>>713063325
For whatever reason, I completely forgot about the chests but fair point.

>>713063390
dess made kris cum so hard they were a goner, man

>>713063270
kek that's actually the perfect comparison

>>713063243
If Boss Monster concept exists in DR universe, he was definitely one.

>>713063436
DESS IS THE GONER MAKER

IT ALL MAKES SENSE

>>713063372
>Kris is a bean mouth

>>713062761
>few select posters go post on /vg/
this is a normal occurrence, /trash/fag
/vg/ being shit is entirely their own doing, stop boogeyman-ing us on /utg/ being a diet circlejerk discord

>>713063182
Perfect

>>713063005
That's just one weird sprite
>>713063042
>the knight is her body after being morphed/mutated by the dark for so long
We have no reason to believe this happens to lightners. If this were the case, Kris and Susie should at least show some signs of this darkness illness by now but they don't. Besides the dialogue in this video here https://youtu.be/ncGNdt92hIM?t=53 proves that the knight is wearing some sort of armor and is not corrupted by the dark.
Additionally, why couldn't Dess just go back with her family after escaping the supposed darkness? She can travel just fine in the dark and light worlds (almost too well considering how well the knight managed to restrain and carry Undyne from one part of the town to the other), so basic survival wouldn't be a problem. The knight's appearance also wouldn't be an issue considering that amalgams in undertale were set free to live with society with no issues.

Just face it. The only way for this to make sense is if Papyrus is the knight. He captured Undyne to sacrifice her to bring back Dess who died in the bunker's dark world. The player is kept away from the bunker for fear that it will be sealed and Dess will be lost for good.

>>713063189
>breaks into the bunker
>beats the everloving shit out of the knight before befriending them
>beats the everloving shit out of IMAGE_FRIEND or whatever the pointed tail is
>prophecy shatters so hard ralsei is left having a total spergout
>carries the vessel back out in whatever fucked up mutated state it's probably in by now, somehow fixes it
>asgore's freaking out because his only chance to prove he's not crazy is got
>gets a gay ass friendship speech that leaves him even more confused
>hits Kris with that heart unlocking bullshit, slaps (You) into the vessel
>gets Klonoa'd because breaking the prophecy causes him to vanish again, leaving him paying exorbitant prices for a shitty shinjuku apartment
>everyone's left standing around trying to figure out what the fuck just happened

>>713063390
>>713063480
They call her the Determination Extractor because she'll suck your SOUL out

>>713062761
giwtwm

>>713063535
>Additionally, why couldn't Dess just go back with her family after escaping the supposed darkness?
Could be she just ran away from home and never looked back?

>>713059871
worst part is i actually like blonde dess more than black hair dess

>>713063601
Then why the fuck would she be back in Hometown?

>>713063595
Still waiting for this but with Undyne and Asgore

So FRIEND really was born from cat petterz...

>>713062927
sorry we like our tomboy having black hair
just like my coffee and my woman

>>713063535
>We have no reason to believe this happens to lightners.
we have no reason to believe otherwise

>the dialogue in this video here proves that the knight is wearing some sort of armor and is not corrupted by the dark.
that was kris trying to fuck with the player, it says "the image of the knight fades into your mind" instead of shifting your perspective like the other "think of" scenes, so it is likely happening in kris' head

>Additionally, why couldn't Dess just go back with her family after escaping the supposed darkness?
if we go with my assumptions, the knight is not dess' completely but a fragment of her, and likely cannot exist in the light world for long periods of time anymore and requires darkness to survive

>>713063658
where is this from?

>>713063639
for kris and maybe she heard that asriel is coming home

>>713063723
One of the Mike's minigames, don't remember which one.

>>713062947
>he doesn't know

>>713059871
man i really want asriel to be part of the story.

>>713063792
same but the longer we go without him the less likely it seems...

>>713061372
the knight won't be papyrus because that would be fucking stupid. i don't care about your evidence it would make the story suck and so toby won't do it. i'm at like 99% dess knight with 1% it being some creature gaster created in dess's image or something.

>chapter 5
>Enter Asgore's Pepe Silvia style room for the Dess case
>Among the documents is a list of others who were abducted by... whatever the fuck got Dess
>Names and descriptions of various UT monsters who haven't appeared in DT
>And finally, at the bottom of the victims list, right next to Dess's name,
>is (you)r name, underlined.
>Cut to credits, to be continued in Chapter 6
>yfw

>>713063856
>it’s still (you)

>>713063792
don't worry, he'll show up
but it will be in the very end, just like in undertale

>>713063790
Where did you find this picture of me?

>>713063792
My hope for Asriel is he REALLY is a good boy in the light world, but in the dark world he is a psychopathic flowey like murderer who keeps fighting no matter what. Not because he is evil, but because he thinks he is fictional. He is the nerdy pure kid who does the evil route in video games because he'd never do it in real life, he sees the dark worlds as a way to pretend to be evil.

>>713063716
I really hope the Vessel is insanely jealous and has abandonment issues. Would be kino.

>>713063896
Tobias... I...*bravo*

>>713062947
Thaaat's videogames!

>Chapter 4
>We are STILL in the fujo cage

I swear that before this game ends we'll be sleeping on a little pillow next to him!

>>713063979
KRIS! DONT LEAVE ME HERE!
KRIIIIIIIIS!

>>713063087
Not when I was through with it

>>713063979
Nigga beats you with a hockey stick I wouldn't count on it

>>713063979
doin' ya mom doin' doin' ya mom

>>713063535
>That's just one weird sprite
Yeah sure man, they just held that shot of her pulling out a baseball for three seconds at the start of her fight by accident

>If this were the case, Kris and Susie should at least show some signs of this darkness illness by now but they don't.
Kris and Susie have spent maybe a day or two in the Dark World
Dess was lost for YEARS
Her Black Knife - and probably her "armor" - is also made of some kind of evil black "glass," like crystalized darkness. Exposure to this material specifically might have been what turned her into The Knight.
>the knight is wearing some sort of armor and is not corrupted by the dark.
Her "helmet" and "armor" can also split open at will and transform along with her whole body into an orb to fly around, there's obviously more going on here than some sick clothes, if the "floating with power and leaving afterimages behind" wasn't enough to clue you in
>why couldn't Dess just go back with her family after escaping the supposed darkness
Because she's become some kind of shadow monster and the overarching thematic conflict of the game seems to be heading toward "bringing things back to how they should be"
Carol does not want her daughter to be a nine foot tall shadow monster and Dess probably isn't thrilled about it either, they want to change her back to normal.

BEHOLD

What if Kris Puppy

So what would be yfw if
>2026
>Playin thru Delterune Chapter 5
>Fighten der Final Bawss
>The Final Bawss Fell
>Credits Play
>To be continued in Chapter 6
>RIGHT NOW

>>713063979
things will turn out better, hopefully

>>713063721
>we have no reason to believe otherwise
Dark worlds aren't some radioactive poison. They're just areas that have negative photon readings and distort your view of the world. If they were as dangerous as you make them out to be, Ralsei would not have made a room for Kris and Susie in case they needed to sleep in the school closet for however long they need to.

>that was kris trying to fuck with the player, it says "the image of the knight fades into your mind" instead of shifting your perspective like the other "think of" scenes, so it is likely happening in kris' head
That further proves my point. Kris knows how the knight looks and is actively preventing the player from seeing them.

>if we go with my assumptions, the knight is not dess' completely but a fragment of her, and likely cannot exist in the light world for long periods of time anymore and requires darkness to survive
How would this even work? Would she be dead? If so she should behave like Gerson, a lightner reanimated in the form of a darkner. Would she be scattered across space and time like Gaster? Then that would make the dialogue in the files about someone lost in the dark belong to her. I personally believe the latter.

>>713063887
Trust the dog anon. Toby will make it kino

>>713063323
That... might explain some things.

>>713063792
Gaster is Asriel's game dev teacher, the whole game is his creation

So what was the point behind the vessel anyway? Gaster seems pretty unfazed by it seemingly being tossed aside.

>>713064083
why is he brown

>>713064094
The meat of the chapters is usually in the exploration and the light world segments
As long as those are good, I will be satisfied

>>713061484
He sure likes his skeletons.

>>713063926
>>713063926
Praise be to the king of secondaries. He literally went to church to confess when he accidentally killed Yoshi in a video game. It's Noelle who played evil route several times in Dragon Blazers 2.

>>713064080
this prophecy is Pissing me off

why does ralsei's healing magic sprite looks like him standing in a pee puddle

>>713064149
Gaster doesn't seem to be as powerful as we once thought
Perhaps his greatest power is being able to contact (Us)?

>>713063929
They were made just for (you), after all.
Yours truly, in mind, body, but not yet soul.

>>713063979
Hey, the blood is gone? When I got susie and kirs to clean it the blood was still there at the end of the game.

>>713064107
>Trust the dog anon. Toby will make it kino
first of all there's no way to do this, it's impossible. second of all, i just looked at your evidence it's really shoddy. a lot of it is operating on the assumption that the knight is a person in a suit, which i think is obviously wrong. it's a fucking shapeshifter. clearly it's some kind of strange gaster entity which is in some way linked to the holiday family (coldness, deer horns); the most plasible candidate from the holidays is obviously dess.

>>713063716
Honestly, even if the vessel is aimed to be an even worse villain than Krisp, I think I'd only be happy to be back with my Beautiful Creation again.

>>713064213
barefoot btw

>>713064185
That is the stupidest thing I've read today

>>713062752
The fucking grin in the thumbnail is what always gets me.

>>713064154
Where have you seen a brown and yellow dog

>>713063323
>Asgore cheated on Toriel with Alphys
>Susie is technically Kris' sister

Reminder that drinking the juice in front of Alphys is not only the based choice but the correct choice that Kris would actually do, seeing as he throws that empty cup on the ground to taunt her of his own volition. Kris loves to bully her too

What position does Dess play? Does she hit for power or contact? Good plate discipline?

>>713063979
>coming to terms with yourself

I hope that ISN'T where this is heading because that ruins the tension of the soul being distinct completely and Kris being at the mercy of it and the player.
It's too simple too. That shit's been done to death.

>>713064149
>So what was the point behind the vessel anyway?

>>713064327
golden retriever?

>>713064262
the little sphere the knight turns into when they are moving looks like a deer's eyeball (they are similar to goats' expect much smoother)

>>713064194
While typing that I really did wonder to myself "lmao isn't that kinda Noelle"
But I feel like having Asriel be "evil" in the dark world (or, basically someone parodying a player who fights) is a good way to mix in some Flowey with him without doing "PILES OF ASRIEL'S DUST" or some bullshit.
Idk, I just think having him be kinda evil/flowey like in the dark world would be cool.

>>713064339
I honestly think Kris treats her like garbage because she's not even a tenth of the teacher Gerson was.

>>713064393
Its a fucking baseball

>>713064334
The term you're looking for is "inseki".

>>713061820
Are those artifacts a watermark or some kind of anti-AI thing?

>>713064348
>What position does Dess play?
cowgirl
doggystyle if she's pegging you

>>713064339
Don't my choices matter? Don't I get to Act nice?

>>713064428
But neither Noelle nor Kris were old enough to have Gerson as their teacher.

>>713064149
You needed a body to interact with the world. You might not have the body you wanted, but you still have a body and thus can participate in The Experiment.

>>713063038
All the sanctuary music was great and told the story in progression, there are a bunch of songs I got stuck in my head from these two chapters. Black Knife, basically all of Gerson's music, the damn raft song, Bat Song, and WHATCHA GONNA DO WITH ALL THAT ASS, ALL THAT ASS, ALL THAT ASS

>>713054838
ALL MY DESSES IS WINNERS
ALL YOUR BRATTYS IS LOSERS

>>713064435
It's actually a marble.

>>713064339
Kris, this is no way to treat your future mother-in-law.

>>713064483
So, how does this minigame actually work anyways?

>>713064269
imagine licking clean Ralsei's piss-soaked feet, haha

>>713064564
It's par for the course, from the chapter 1 introduction i'm sure Susie treats her like garbage too

>>713063536
It's just that simple. Sora would sweep Deltarune, help Ralsei open up more to his friends, maybe get into a secret super boss fight with Kris...
And have a Dess/Gaster secret super boss with Data Sora in the DLC.

>>713063595
how very omori of you

>>713064246
>>713064268
A Vessel left empty for long will eventually learn to yearn for it’s captain.

>>713063979
>Cleans the stain
>Doesn't give Kris the Susie star

>>713061484
I want these two edgelords to have a long sloppy make out session in their monster forms.

>>713064539
I PRAY MY DICK GET BIG AS THE TITAN'S TOWER
SO I CAN FUCK THE DOE FOR SEVENTY TWO HOURS

>>713064073
>Yeah sure man, they just held that shot of her pulling out a baseball for three seconds at the start of her fight by accident
And then it turns into a regular sword for the rest of the battle. It's clear that blade is inconsistent and morphs into whatever it needs to be for the occasion much like Kris's sword being able to turn into a shield.
>Her Black Knife - and probably her "armor" - is also made of some kind of evil black "glass," like crystalized darkness. Exposure to this material specifically might have been what turned her into The Knight.
I don't buy it. The Holiday family has some degree of access to the shadow crystal material given that Asgore has some for himself. Its more likely that the Holidays used these crystals as weapons to give to their servants ie Papyrus and Asgore.
>Her "helmet" and "armor" can also split open at will and transform along with her whole body into an orb to fly around, there's obviously more going on here than some sick clothes, if the "floating with power and leaving afterimages behind" wasn't enough to clue you in
That's the beauty of bones. They can be arranged in a way so that the ball form could work.
>Because she's become some kind of shadow monster and the overarching thematic conflict of the game seems to be heading toward "bringing things back to how they should be"
Carol does not want her daughter to be a nine foot tall shadow monster and Dess probably isn't thrilled about it either, they want to change her back to normal.
This could also be done with Papyrus sacrificing Undyne to bring back Dess. It seems to convenient for Dess to return the week Susie becomes friends with Kris.

>>713064262
And a lot of the evidence I see for Dess knight is shoddy. I am yet to see any explanation for Dess's transformation other than fancannon. At least my explanations make sense with the current lore.

>>713064626
Susie just avoids her as much as possible. Funnily enough, in this scene Alphys is afraid of mixing her juice because Susie might make fun of her for it, but Susie actually thinks this mix is good.

>The story is going to be about Kris coming to terms with how they feel "inside"
Please don't do this Toby.
It really destroys the tension of this whole thing going on between Kris and the SOUL. And it ignores the player as a deterministic demon for this world which is a cool idea that really needs to be elaborated on more.

The idea of blurring between the lines of reality of the game and the reality of the player is much much better.

>>713064339
>the fact that Kris can scream "No!" to her face when she asks if Kris wanted something too
It's too fucking funny, I was chuckling to myself the next 5 minutes after that

>>713064720
i fully believe that alphys is susie's (extremely shitty) foster mom

>Deltarune but Azzy and Dess are the Protagonists
What would change?

>>713064185
That body is exactly Mettaton EX's not Papyrus's

>>713064764
>Instead of fluffy boys and mean girls is nerd boys and stoner girls

Garbage

>>713064753
I'd say not intentionally shitty, just really out of her depth. Susie refuses to accept her as her mother, and might be pissed off at her for not protecting her enough.

>>713064735
Think the egg shit is there for lore and to explain that in relation to Deltarune, Undertale is a mind-world that Kris revisits. In other words, nothing important to the game plot.

>>713064649
Yume Nikki?
Oh I see.
Yeah it does feel a bit like that more and more in Deltarune.
I forgot it was an influence on some of the designs.

>>713054838
this one but actually the cosplayer it was based on

>>713063243
As if someone with that much determination could be anything but a human. He got shot during a speech, then did a "but if refused" just so he could finish the speech.

>>713064779
The pelvis is different.

>>713064764
Group child molestation simulator

>>713064767
kris yearns to be a HERO

>>713064348
Pitcher. Her expert tutelage is why Kris can snipe us so easily

>>713063907
>>713063856
Don't listen to him, Kris, we just want you to marry the purple dino.

>>713064869
Stephen King, is that you?

>>713064767
Is there some connection between Titans and YOU?

>>713064764
Who's that bird next to the prince of the dark/vessel/whatever the fuck that human-like creature is?

>>713063979
Have faith my brothers. We will thaw Kris's icy exterior.

>>713064827
I think >>713064831
Might be a better idea of where this is heading.
It certainly has that creepy sinister psychological horror feel after ch 4. It was always there, but now it's kinda obvious what he's going for.

I've always felt like the town was "off" to me and that there was something sinister to it. Undertale has it a bit, but it's not as effective. Delta feels much much creepier.

>>713055280
kek, did not expect to see this fucking reference but I'm glad I did

>>713064905
I'm pretty sure the Titans are actually human-sized. IRL human-sized, in comparison to the pixels on the screen.

>>713064826
yeah, i think she just wasn't prepared to deal with a kid as temperamental as susie and susie realizing that her foster mom was actually SCARED of her messed her up and encouraged her to lean harder into the bully persona, causing a vicious cycle

>>713055043
>oh jeez this game just started riding the underground railroad down to negrotown pretty fast
Andrew?

>>713064902
...
What happened with Stephen King?
Or are we just talking his books here?

>>713064764
you know for a mod this doesn't look that bad. I'd pay 15 bucks to play it if it had as much content as chapter 1 &2

>>713063979
I myself can't wait to finally get into the discarded vessel and then have Kris insult us to death.

Imagine if we formed an alliance and then the option to hug him appears
He would kills us.

>>713064998
Anon have you never heard about It

>>713064932
Lancer but bird

>>713064905
>>713064767
>you can kill these and when you do it increases the Slain stat on your menu

>>713064947
Could explain 2 things. 1, why there's a prophecy in the first place everything already went to shit already and 2, what everything is a copy that's been colored in, as per what Kris finds in CH 3's egg room. The town is a copy, the people are copies, Kris knows too. Would be interesting

>>713063441
Spamton should've been Brian.

Vessel is for (you).

>>713064998
P.sure that's an It novel reference.

>>713064947
>I've always felt like the town was "off" to me and that there was something sinister to it.
>mfw the fucking alligator girl is looking at us

>>713064937
>Plot twist
>Kris just wants to be a normal dude and the SOUL just wants to fuck with him for explicit perverse reasons

Oh..
>and then the player realises this, tries to stop it, but then can't.

>>713064624
>still no art of the Knight doing the strider point-thumbs-down pose

I wonder if the scene where (You) force Kris to rape Noelle was based on this old Home Office advert:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzDr18UYO18

>>713064947
>I've always felt like the town was "off" to me and that there was something sinister to it.
Someone post that one screenshot from the making of the Halloween Hack talking about purposely oppressive towns

>>713065112
>tries to stop it

>The entire catalog is full of porn threads reaching up to 100 posts
>Deltarune threads still have to hide the thread topic for fear of being deleted by mods
It's all some kind of bad joke.

>>713064735
>Eggs are sometimes referred to people that need to 'come out of their shell' as trans, according to other, crazier trans people
Potentially awful, but I doubt it.
Thankfully Toby seems to not give a flying fuck about their opinions on sexuality, and just wanted a blank protagonists anyone could identify with.

>>713065038
I know his books have that.
I've also heard some off hand rumours about the author too.
He did a fuck tonne of coke.

>>713064367
>meta-awareness themes of DR being just a game
>game is about escaping to fantasies/holding onto memories and NOT letting them take over
>eggs revolve around a repressed past experience Kris had (likely Dess's "death")
>evil route involves twisting story and girl to your will instead of letting her go full-lesbo
>something clearly wrong with Kris's mind period

It's most definitely gonna be about every kind of acceptance there is and YOU learning to do the same in a very literal sense, anon.

>>713064165
>>713064219
Abnormally large Ralsei

>>713065094
Toby literally made a character for self-shipping. Who am I to deny him?

>>713061739
It's not a town anymore, it's a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8sBtl3WYZo

>>713065103
Hometown always felt Lynchian to me
Now we are finally in the part of the story where the disease starts to show more prominently