Alright /v/, gimme your predictions of the other chapters?

>>714446519 (OP)
TOTAL
DOE
RAPE

>>714446519 (OP)
a bad game about tranimals

>>714446519 (OP)
I have sex with Carol

PAPYRUS SCHIZO BOSS IS REEEEAAAALLLLL

>>714446519 (OP)
krusie victory
then horrible revelations and the fallout
then schizo fever dream kino
then total krusie victory

Chapter 5: Snow World - Considering how much is being implied with snow, Noelle, and that door, I reckon the final Dark World of the initial release will be the behind the door in the forest, and you'll meet Dess as a frostbitten zombie in a hellish, snowy wasteland.

Chapter 6: Flower World - Kris will probably open a Dark World in Flower King at some point, to explore their relationship with Asgore and link into the "golden flowers" of Undertale.

Chapter 7: New World - Kris will probably contact Gaster and create a Dark World of their own paradise, which will shape itself into...

Undertale - Think. Undertale seems like an idealised version of Kris' world.

>>714446898

>>714446519 (OP)
Schizo boss is either Papyrus or sans (song that might play when you fight sans)
The blue soul mode is being saved for last for a REASON.

The other chapters will never come out. Toby is going to suicide-bomb PAX East carrying an entire manifesto about Hussie raping him over and over again in his basement that's completely made up.

>>714446964
>(You) x FRIEND (forma de light world)

>>714446519 (OP)
This. Probably followed by
>[VESSEL NAME]?
>Thats a wonderful name
>My name is...
>*Susie interrupts her* KRIS?

>>714446964
how does that even work
berdly has a cloaca

>>714447110
I don't know. I just wanted to make everyone unhappy

>>714446519 (OP)
The Doe Breaking will Proceed

Drew that one scene

>>714447157
every post that has kris as part of berdly's harem only further enforces that kris is a boy (female)

>>714447224
And alt colors

It's a prequel, and Dess is the Roaring Knight

>>714446519 (OP)
Berdly will have his super smart gamer harem like in all his visual novels. Everyone in Hometown shall bear his eggs, even the men and the darkners.

-The light banishes the dark
The brighter the soul glows the weaker the dark
The last part of the prophecy is the end of the dark and as such the darkers
The soul will glow brighter and brighter
Susie wants to protect the Darkners.
Susie vs (you) is unavoidable.

-The point of the experiment was never to alter the prophecy, the prophecy cannot be stopped for the simple fact that Toby will only make one ending with a few variables like dialogue.

-Normal route: Susie gets determination
Weird route: Noelle gets determination
Sword route: The soul becomes dark dark yet darker

-Gaster is awaiting our arrival with the girl with Determination in another program.

-Gaster is the embodiment of the dark which itself is a metaphor for potential, he will never live up to expectations.

>>714446519 (OP)
I still have faith that the Weird Route will culminate in us doing a ritual that completely fucks up the world in ways unimaginable

>>714447224
>>714447313
hell yeah

>>714447650
>The point of the experiment was never to alter the prophecy, the prophecy cannot be stopped for the simple fact that Toby will only make one ending with a few variables like dialogue.
The prophecy will be another meta thing. The specifics will change depending on (you)r unique actions, yet as far as the game is concerned, the path (you) make on the fly will retroactively always be what Ralsei knew would happen. This is why I think "only one ending" is deliberately misleading. There will be a number of paths, but the one you go down will have always been the only route within the context of the story

Deltatroon

i can't wait another godam year for this stupid game im gonna go craazy

>>714447650
>The last part of the prophecy is the end of the dark and as such the darkers
The Prophecy says that the Worlds (plural) will be saved by the heroes. You're not just saving the Light World, the Dark World needs to exist too.
>The point of the experiment was never to alter the prophecy
Then what does Gaster mean when he says he wants to "CREATE A NEW FUTURE WITH YOU"?
In both Undertale and Deltarune, Determination is "the power to change FATE". We have the power to change the Prophecy, that's the reason we're here.

>>714446519 (OP)
Fight between Sans and Asgore in his own Dark World, and you have to pick a side.
Siding with Sans causes Asgore to pull a Berdly and end up in a coma, and your reward for turning on Kris' beloved father is Sans sarcastically thanking Kris while still being an obnoxious dickhead to him

>>714450979
I've killed the faggot bone man before and I'll do it again

We're gonna walk in on the three goobers in a chapter or two and they'll all just be fucking dead.

>>714446519 (OP)
>predictions
I'm wrong.
I'm wrong.
I'm wrong.
I hope to fuck I'm wrong.

OUR HEROS

>>714446729
AWWW YEAH
I LIKE MY COFFEE COLD AND GOING TO KILL ME

>>714451327
I hope they're somehow relevant again. For completely optional content, the mike trio is very charming.
They're like if the robot trio from chapter 2 wasn't shit.

>>714450979
Siding with Sans is required for Weird Route

Weird route is about creating the Undertale timeline
Represent (You) being obsessed with the Undertale connections

>Check on Onionsan next chapter
>Susie can no longer remember him, blanking out on why they've been coming to the lake
>Going to prior chapters there's no trace of Onionsan
>Onionsan no longer shows up in Undertale outside of a specific FUN event.

:3

>>714451635
Why did Onionsan go missing? Did they really know too much? Is Onionsan actually from Undertale?

>>714451327
Genuinely would've been nightmare fuel if each chapter some characters kept disappearing without anyone noticing

there's going to be a situation in the normal route that's really fucked up in such a sense where you can imagine someone thinking "this is BS, how do I change it", then go about doing the snowgrave route without looking up the conditions online because it seems like the rational thing to do to avoid what goes down in the normal route. snowgrave would be just as tragic, of course, but at least it'd be tragic in a different way.

then the game will get in a dunk on all of the players who did snowgrave just for kicks for the several years before the purpose revelation was made, like flowey's anti-streamer line in UT

Does anyone have that old gif where Ralsei falls to his knees and starts crying?

>>714446519 (OP)
Snowgrave will continue to be Kino, Asgore will either be completely vindicated or fucked harder than he's ever been fucked before, with no in between, things will get a lot worse for every character in the game, chapter 7 will be like the end of Evangelion.

>>714450450
Who says the new future was for the Deltarune world?
Keep in mind Gaster talks about this whole game as being an experiment, as far as he is concerned, he is an external party to the game and the game is a controlled experiment.
We are meeting Gaster outside of Deltarune, AFTER Deltarune with a monster with Determination so Gaster can use that monster elsewhere.

SNOWGRAVE
WRONGSAVE

KINOOOOOOOOO

party dojo schizoboss rematches that power up their respective items fucking when?

>>714451869
I like the theory that it'll be a dead end... but it will let you get an extremely powerful Noelle to the end of the world, with her realizing the game-like nature of her reality, at which point she tells us exactly how we can go back and break it, unlocking true route.

>>714451986
after undertale hardmode

>>714451904
oh for fuck's sake
are there any more anagrams that went over our heads? we already got NUTDEALER and UNRELATED, what about Kris Dreemur?

>>714451779
Onionsan? DEAD
Nice Cream Guy? TAKEN
Nobody? More like NOBODY'S THERE

>>714451986
>party dojo schizoboss rematches
Why isn't this just a thing already? I see no reason it can't be since you could just lock them behind requiring each schizobosses' reward item. I don't want to have to replay an entire chapter Tobias.

>>714452013
But I already know what to do!
Make a spamelle neo bossfight that doesn't fucking suck! Somehow. First I gotta learn how to draw, sprite, code, compose and write!

>>714452029
>Kris Dreemurr
MURDERER RISK

>>714447301
I'm warming up to the idea of vagina Kris

Berdly is the Angel
You can't refute this

>>714451327
Book bird is there instead

>>714452029

>>714446519 (OP)
Krisriel

>>714446519 (OP)
The Shadow Crystals themselves aren't important, it's the experiences that lead up to the Fun Gang obtaining them that are. We know the Crystals don't have any effect on Kris's mind. But we do know that each schizoboss encounter forces the Fun Gang to grapple with topics they wouldn't have otherwise considered:
>Jevil opens up the Fun Gang to the idea of freedom. He's also a good foil to the player because he also recognizes that all of this is just a game, and he's the only free one while being trapped inside a Cage
>Spamton's a strong foil for Kris (especially with the phone shit)
>Getting the Crystal from the Knight shows the Fun Gang that she can be beaten with enough effort
>Gerson's whole thing is hopepilling Susie
The optional experiences that happen to the Fun Gang will shift their thinking enough that they'll naturally break away from the Prophecy. In a normal route, the player will enable the Fun Gang to seek freedom from themselves to avert the ending hanging over their heads.
This will be contrasted with the Weird Route, where (You) seek freedom for yourself at the detriment to literally everybody else.

>>714446571

>>714452081
>We got one (1) new Dojo fight
>There are unused fully charted tracks for the Guitar Hero minigame and even a fully functional debug tool to create new charts but we're only allowed to play with the three
Why is he like this?

>>714452217
"WAIT, DON'T, WAIT, DON'T!"
"Wait... Love... Wait... LOVE..."

>>714452208
Berdly is dead

>There are yellow and pink ads with cats in the cybercity
Fuck

I don't know why but it feels like the older you are in the light world the stronger you become in the dark world , look at the roaring knight for example , what other explanation is there for a geriatric turtle that's double dead fucking over a titan with no soul no prophecy amp and no vessel?

>>714452343
Wasted too much time looking into separating each chapter as an individual game/wanted to rush a release for Nintendo.

>>714452192
it's the final nail in the 'kris is not a self insert' idea
most self inserters are guys, and people have been pointing out that kris is eerily close to being toby's own self insert
if this were true it goes against the whole point of kris, but how could one rectify this?
kris is female, her own person who, while similar to toby, cannot be toby because of that one simple fact
it also neatly cleans up any potential fallout of noelle having a crush on kris being lesbian erasure or whatever the fuck and berdly still gets to be straight
it also feels very toby for the big potential romance in deltarune to ultimately be a yuri one

>>714452434
oh god that fucking thing is everywhere

>>714452434
damn cat
needs fuck squad correction

>>714452594
undyne is also older than the knight but she jobbed hard

At the end of Pacifist Neutral, gonna go back and do true pacifist right after. Should I kill this loser for laughs?

>>714452594
I always had the theory that a Darkner's strength is based on how much love or appreciation they've gotten. Tenna > Queen > King because while King was just a card in a deck in an abandoned classroom, Queen was a public laptop that anybody was able to use, and Tenna was the Dreemurr's beloved family TV.
So how much love do you think the remnants of a man who lived a long life and was beloved by his family and community would contain?

>>714452809
KILL HIM
if you leave him alive you brick your future saves

>>714452809
Mercy or you lock out True Pacfist

>>714452594
I'm old!

>>714452809
Sparing him gives you a tip on how to do the True Pacifist run. You can still kill him and do a pacifist run on your own if you know what to do.

>>714452434
chapter 2, kino.

Who's your favorite Mike?

>>714452809
You get more dialogue from him if you spare him. Worth it really

>>714451904
>SNOWGRAVE
>ANGER VOWS

HOLY FUARK...

>>714453006
Mike Hawk

>>714453006
Cowboy, he was funny and made the Woodyfags seethe.

>>714452434
I feel like it's been a month yet nobody has made a full list of every pink and yellow sighting so far, cause SURELY some theory could be derived from that

>>714452029
>Kris is just one letter less than Frisk

>>714452029
>RISK MURDERER
What the fuck did they mean by this?

>>714453108
do it urself

>>714453115
>No F
>Because F goes to gender
Kris is Female confirmed

>>714452898
>>714452926
One tells lies the other tells truth, quite the conundrum.
>>714452946
>>714453024
I already got a tip from other users on how to do it, but since I barely got to see him in my playthrough I'll leave him be even if killing him WOULD be funny after being nice to everyone.

>>714453181
>One tells lies the other tells truth, quite the conundrum.
Both lied to you.

>>714453108
Yeah, the theory is YOU're doing the Great Work, which is entirely placebo and was always in service to lucifer, the angel of light

>>714452702
I do find it funny how Kris, despite nominally being written gender-neutral, is so overwhelmingly male-looking in design that most fem-Kris art makes her seem like more of a tomboy than Susie.

>>714452434
>>714453108
>Yellow and pink cat ads
>FRIEND
>Spamton/Dealmaker
>Susie/Noelle?
>Undertale's MERCY colors
>The Mike Room Cat Petterz games in the switch version are COVERED in pink and yellow
>Odd Controler
>"The field of pink and gold"

>>714453102
>Dis is a private room. We got private… uh, eyes. We been... investigatin' you.
>we, uh... We like what we see. Keep it up.
Made me chucke. Also feels like Toby speaking indirectly to us in a way.

>>714453434
i think that can be used to add another layer on to femkris
since it's pretty much confirmed that toriel never bought kris clothes and was only given the things asriel out grew, it's not hard to make the assumption that kris was pretty much forced to dress like a boy her entire life
given that kris is goblin like in nature already, this probably would contribute to toriel/ the other monsters having no idea what kris is, explaining the they/ them shit
i really doubt kris went around and told everyone her pronouns, that seems wildly out of character from what we know about how kris behaves

>>714453550
Jevil is yellow and purple, I think gerson’s eyes might be

>>714453550
>>714453108
Catti's hair
Asgore's pink hawaiian shirt and blonde hair.

>>714453434
hot either way

>>714453550
Gerson's hair + good eye

>>714453705
>Jevil is yellow and purple
Yeah, but that's different. We see those colors during Darker than Dark cutscene in chapter 3

>>714453687
Toby definitely wouldn't have made the mike room if he didn't love our schizo shit. I have no idea how some people read that as "mean" or him putting down theorist.

>>714446519 (OP)
Kris becomes the schizo boss in the weird route

What happens?

>>714453860
Absolutely, I know for a fact that he relishes on people speculating on the game's mysteries and is probably very pleased with all the fanart the mike trio got.

>>714453705
>gerson's closed eye is pink
now THAT would be schizo
the old man's encouragement would be to lull susie into a false sense of security so she would crash and burn harder when her confidence gets torn to shreds

>>714453108
OH NO

>>714453913
nothing

>>714453550
>Magenta + Yellow combine to make red
>Spamton VALUE Network is yellow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61zGGtTdv5s
>Spamton LOVE Network is pink https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x_UfDfoRmo
>Bratty has purple eyes and yellow hair, Catty has purple fur and yellow eyes - and with Bratty on the left and Catty on the right they match Spamton's glasses
>Asgore has blonde hair and a pink shirt
>Party Dojo is pink, Bakery Top is yellow

>>714453913

>>714453975
>KRIS'S SKIN IS YELLOW FOR possibly A REASON

>>714453550

>>714453913
his 12 inches would be converted into j cup titties

>>714453971
holy fuck it all makes sense now, krusie is inevitable.

>>714453975

>>714453975
There's definitely some weird shit going on with the CYMK pallet here.
Also:
>Cyan: Not seen, Kris maybe?
>Yellow: Self evident
>Magenta: Self evident
>Black: Darkness?

>>714453975
>>714453971
>>714454059
Kris's eyes are red
I'm going fucking insane

>>714452029
>sans
>sans
holy shit

>>714453971
>pianpian can't physically be done by a single person
>that's because it was both kris and susie playing it
kino

>>714454160
meds NOW

>>714454160
Steven
After
Not
Surviving

OUR HEROES

>>714454204
SUSIE
AFTER
NOT
SURVIVING

>>714454204
HOOOOOLY

>>714454264
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE

>>714454237
... and the soul

>>714454204

Does anybody have that one thing showing that the notes from Concert for You (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQj78oXGrhw) are the notes from Gaster's theme?

>>714454056
>Kris isn't actually human, he's a monster that LOOKS human
>Explains why he can just grab his heart and rip it out
>Shutting the book about humans is to hide information about us that could give his true identity away
>Could explain why his skin clor changes more dramatically than others, his Light World skin isn't natural
The only conclusion this can lead to is that Kris is a vampire monster

>>714454237
Ralsei looks so cute here trying to look cool.

There will be an option to kiss Ralsei

>Chap.4 drops "The Acorn"
>niggers still stuck on purple and gold cats
wtf?

>>714454548
Explain

>>714454548
acorn is a red herring

>>714454548
the acorn refers to friend's left nut of course

>>714454593
>>714454597
see >>714453328

>>714454597
Red herring for what?

>>714454669
to distract us from woody

AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>714454618
I always wonder why people draw Chara younger than Kris when Chara would be closer to Asriels age

>>714454753
krisbros...

>>714446937
>idealized version of Kris' world
>no susie

anon...

Sans and papyrus??

>>714454825
kids gonna fucking kill himself

>not a single line of dialogue
>makes the most discussions about his morality and motives
Kris is such a complex character...

>>714454548
The acorn is probably a metaphor for LOVE. You can't get it naturally in Detlarune, so you have to resort to unnatural means to get it. The pipe head guy uses alchemy, you use game glitches and exploits.

>>714454753
MESSATSU

>>714454825
I TANKED that

>>714446519 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74qdKJ4AR_E
Even if I have to drag him back kicking and screaming from the baddies, I'll do it
I'll be the Lelouch to his Suzaku

>>714454948
... and the Knight

SAY IT

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfsttAQlAA
Why is Gaster so shit at making music? Is that why Kris works for? To make music for him?

>>714447224
>>714447313
Looks good, but the heart perspective is just slightly off

>>714453913
pink and yellow...

>>714454548
We have people in these thread stuck on fucking Frisk and Chara still, and you expect us to move past pink and yellow?

>rose
>grave
I only got this just now

>>714450450
There's nothing to suggest "The Worlds" isn't talking about multiple saves or timelines

>>714455171
>Kris wants freedom
>Continues to be Carol's lapdog even though they're betraying their own friends
Why are they like this?

>>714454938
Everything we know about Kris:
>anti doe pussy
>but raped by doe pussy
>pro dino pussy
>indifferent to goat bussy
>hates parents
>loves brother
>hates TV
>hates SOULs
>very strong
what can we ascertain from these facts?

>>714455198
I LOVE TV

>>714454753
Reverse rape route

>>714454593
a guy in chapter 4 has dialogue about an acorn, it seems random at first but the riverman in undertale also has dialogue about the same acorn. theres also all the little things about "roots" that might have something to do with the acorn

>>714455346
Maybe he wants freedom because, just a wild thought, HE ISN'T FREE? Have you thought about that, you retard?

>>714455367
It's quite simple. Kris will be forced into a conflict with Susie and (I) will somehow turn it around into them admitting their feelings for each other.

>>714454753
Toby if he wasn't a hack:

>>714455397
That would be Kris raping Noelle, though.

>>714455421
That's just about "growth" and the tree

>>714455291
SpamEMPEROR knows ALL

>>714451869
>chapter 7 will be like the end of Evangelion.
I cannot fucking wait for this, they are guaranteed to hit the existential peak of their world at some point. Having everything break down and shatter across time/space based on their memories and experiences.

>>714455456
The video says that Kris severed our connection to them because they want freedom. But they're still not free because they're forced to work with the Knight and against their friends.
Retard.

>>714455558
I don't go down reply chains and only answer the immediate post.

Chapter 0 will be real

>>714455198
OFF BUTTON

>>714455534
I wouldn't be too shocked if some of the stuff he said turned out to be foreshadowing of chapter 7.

>>714455198
With two B's or hard R?

>>714455640
Understandable.

>>714455198
Okay, I'll say it:
Chapter 3 is WAY better than Chapter 4.

The prediction is that Fox got the money and now he's going to rush other chapters and they will all be shit

>>714446519 (OP)
nothing matters, not even going through the lines like Gerson said.

>>714455724
DARKNER IS THEIR WORD!

You can say Darkkna if you're nice, because Ralsei likes you.

December could have tanked the truck....

>>714455816

>>714455724

I don't want to fuck ralsei but I also want to fuck ralsei. That's all.

>>714455903
The duality of man.

>>714455798
>Toby got the money
>When he's already been a millionare since Undertale and this has been his attempt to bring his fever dream from 2012 into reality since the beginning.

Also, it is disturbing to think about that Deltarune has been coming out for as long as I have been an adult. SURVEY PROGRAM happened the year I graduated highschool and I'm a fucking accountant now.

>>714453975
Susie and Noelle are the most important parts of the story and each one is going to be key for you to change things on both routes

>>714455798
toby already had infinite money from undertale and merch
there's a reason he held off on getting people to pay for deltarune for 7 years

>>714455938
I was a NEET back then and I'm a NEET now.

Assuming there is a purpose to aborting snowgrave (like keeping the thorn ring for the twisted sword), what do you think will be the ideal moment to abort snowgrave? Before icing berdly (ch2) or before taking over Kris in Noelle's house (ch4)

>>714455218
I wanted it to look like it was looking down at them but I guess it is a bit off

>>714454114
>>714453975
Susie's eyes turn red when she gets the knife from Kris.

>>714455938
>it's been seven years since Deltarune first released
>I was 12 then and I'm 19 now
>mfw I've grown from Kris's demographic to Asriel's
Dear god...

>>714455980
I have faith you'll find a way somehow anon, you just gotta keep looking.

Or just grab all the money you have and exploit currency exchange to go live in Vietnam for the rest of your life. Whichever suits you better.

>>714456085
Prove

>>714456105
Are you enjoying the youthful days?

>>714455885
Kris and Susie would definitely snicker at calling Ralsei a nigger. I don't know if Berdly is enough of a gamer to use that word though.

>>714456125
Right before she stabs the new dark world open in the church, for a single second.
Oh no the color of the drink
I'M GOING FUCKING INSANE

>>714456176
>I don't know if Berdly is enough of a gamer to use that word though
He'll do some mental gymnastics to prove it's okay for him to say it.

>>714456105
+1

>>714455976
If he has infinite money why did he set a $25 price at all? Why can't the game be free?

>>714456085
>yellow eyes
>pink hair dye and pants

>Grandpa Semi audio plays when you reset the score of the Mike minigames
What the FUCK Toby

>>714455980
I was a NEET when undertale came out and now I'm a top tier salesman for a top tier power tools company. Spamton? Literally me.

>>714456370
You better start giving us some answers Robert you've raised too many questions over the decade

>>714456335
What are you, some kind of commie?

>>714455798
every new chapter that releases is another wave of merch that makes money

>>714456382
So, by the time it finishes you'll be living in a dumpster.

>playing piano is (probably?) the most important thing in the world to Kris
>Is more than comfortable telling Susie that they'll play together
>refuses to play piano for us but does so when Susie asks for it.
>Susie blushes after hearing Kris play properly for the first time.
but no yeah they're just friends. Just platonic friendmates or whatever.

>>714456626
don't underestimate the power of friendship

>>714456191
I'm turning into the fucking green pippin at this point
>WHY DOES THE CHURCH HAVE RED AND YELLOW JUICE
>WHY DO WE GET A CHOICE TO COMBINE RED AND YELLOW
>WHY IS THE ACTUAL GRAPE COLOR MISSING? THEY DRINK PURPLE WINE IN CHRISTIAN CHURCHES
>WOULD THAT BE TOO ON THE NOSE, HAVING RED, PURPLE AND YELLOW THERE FOR US?
>WHY DOES KRIS CARRY A KNIFE?!
>DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE KRIS BLUSHING IS ALSO PINK AGAINST YELLOW?!
Someone pass me the green pippin freaking the fuck out gif and fucking kill me

Remember.
At least one Egg.

>>714456626
Bro have you never rested your chin on your homie's head bro? That's something all homies do.

I mean who doesn't go out to the lake alone to spend time with your best bro, bro? And go on dates to the local diner to talk about the things that only the two of you know.

No homo of course.

>>714456626
I figured it all out already but I am not going to ruin this nice theory thread with shipfagging, I'll just wait until one of the shitty threads.

>>714456727
Here you go.

>>714456756
Its impossible to play through deltarune without at least encountering Temmie's egg.

>>714456835
Just say it man I don't wanna wait that long. Shippingfaggotry is only really harmful if there's no discussion and it's just people shitflinging.

>>714456727
>>WHY DOES THE CHURCH HAVE RED AND YELLOW JUICE
You know why.

>>714456756
>not too important not to0o unimportant
>kris dies if we don't get at least 1

The Hussie thread were so funny, good times

>>714456786
unironically the only gay thing here would be resting your chin on your friends head. Everything else is normal friend stuff.

release me!
release me at once!

>>714457047
Why doesn't he just stab Kris?

>>714453108
>>714452434
I remember thinking everyone was just making a crackpot theory out of nothing and that friend was just a spamton related easter egg. I thought pink and yellow was too uniquely spamton for it to be about anyone else

>>714457040
Yeah fair, its' more in the details.

I maintain that if they were both explicitly male than those two would be pure fucking fujo bait of the likes we haven't seen since the Big Three Animes though.

>>714457040
Most of the things Kris and Susie do are indeed things that friends do but they have also bonded in a way that's far deeper than just any regular friendship.
Not quite friends, not quite lovers, together forever nonetheless.

>>714457153
you die in the real, you die the game

do bros stare longingly at their friend's face for a prolonged period of time unprompted

>>714457245
they're like if quote and curly shared more than like three moments together

>>714457245
>Not quite friends, not quite lovers, together forever nonetheless.
Perhaps we could say they are that totally-untranslatable-Japanese-word-that-definitely-isn't-analogous-to-any-english-concept 'Nakama'?

>>714457047
>ZeldaKris aka (You) being controlled by Kris who is controlled by (You) who is controlled by Kris acting behind your back

>>714456838
thanks now kill me before I shit my liver out
>WHY DOES KRIS HAVE ALL THE PRIMARY COLORS AS HIS BODY, DARK WORLD BODY, AND SOUL?
>WHY DOES JEVIL HAVE A GREEN AND YELLOW RUFF?
>WHY DOES "I'M WITH YOU IN THE DARK" IN JEVIL'S THEME REPEAT 7 AND A HALF TIMES AT THE END?!
>WHY DID SEAM APPEAR IN THE COMPUTER ALONG WITH CAT PETTERZ?!
>AND WHY WAS FRIEND WHAT [WE] SAW AS THE FIRST THING THAT CAME OUT OF SUSIE'S ROOM?

>>714456524
Probably!

>calls himself a gamer
>knows literally nothing about Hermeticism and the occult
curious...

>>714454825
>you actually lose HP in the light world because of this
Nice of Toby to already confirm that we're getting a light world battle sooner or later

>>714457356
I believe the word is "soul-mates". That's what Kris and Susie are.
They strike me as the kind of people that would get married and have kids and both of them would still go "nahh we're just friends it's nothing weird."

>>714457510
Failing any other explanation for anything, I tend to actively avoid making any allusions to occult bullshit because this game is already deeply rooted into many people's psyches and subconscious.
If Gaster wants to fuck around and cause the convergence then he's gunna have to use someone else as his schizo fucko.

>>714457317
But (you) are miniKris, not Kris.

hey
give me stuff to doodle
preferably knight stuff

>>714457692
Ice-E being used as a projectile weapon ala knight home-run.

>>714457692
the knight stabbing (You)

>>714457692
knight cutting ralsei in half

>>714457692
if lewd requests, a "back view" of the knight
if not, the knight slicing the gold berdly statue in half

>>714456904
Okay, fine. Basically, when you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
>Kralsei is impossible because incest connotations
>polygamous ending was mocked in chapter 3
>VN-style routes are mocked through Berdly
>Toby is not going to leave his self-insert out to dry so Suselle is out
>Krusie is out because then Noelle will be left with no one
>other characters are out of equation completely because they are not important to the story or are adults
So this leaves us with two possible outcomes - Karkat's diagram or the ending where no explicit romance gets confirmed and they just become friends.

>>714457692
Knight not understanding the knighting process and cutting into Kris's shoulder, if you subscribe to the Dess knight theory she's struggling to play smoke on the water

>>714455949
>Complete Normal/Pacifist+AllShadowCrystals
>Create the strongest Susie, and attempt to forge a new future with HOPES and DREAMS, but end up short.
>Complete Snowgrave/Weirdroute
>Create the strongest Noelle and try to forge a new future with LOVE, but fail as there wasn't anything left to SAVE.
>With the lessons learned from both, the soul goes back this time filled with DETERMINATION to change the future.
>SAVE points become Golden

>>714457692
Knight doing the famous Guts pose, you know the one

>>714457692
given that dess hits kris with a wiffle bat, draw the knight hitting kris with a real bat

>>714455980
Same. I was also a NEET when undertale came out.

>>714457692
This but with Kris and Susie (or Susie and Ralsei).
Sorry, no good ideas for Knight stuff.

>>714457510
I know a bit about alchemy and gnosticism. Like I know about mercurias and that alchemic mixture of man and woman which I forgot the name of. Don't know much about the semetic side of occultism though, couldn't tell you anything about Solomon's pact or how you're supposedly supposed to bind demons.

I think its all bullshit though. Occultism in all its forms is devilry. and is at best a bunch of stupid scams, and at worst shit that you are not qualified to be fucking with. Real gamers don't do witchcraft.

>>714457692
kris saying "GUYS ILL HOLD THE KNIGHT OFF" while preparing to get facesat

>>714457839
>the ending where no explicit romance gets confirmed and they just become friends.
Let's go with that one. Toby is based, but not "make datingdiagramformorons.png a real thing in deltarune" basedvtyt0ffgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
f

>>714457893
>ERAM/The shadow mantle is a bat
>You need a bat to play ball with the Knight.

>>714457692
The Knight and Hyperdeath Asriel having a sloppy makeout session (make them both sexy)

>>714457624
considering Kris takes real damage in the mantle fight i would say both die still

>>714458068
Truly we were filled with the power of BALL GAME.

>>714458068
Oops meant to reply to >>714457951
But since I accidentally replied to you I'd say mindfucking the reindeer isn't worth the effort of finding a better end, if Ralsei's premonition is correct

>>714458050
>something dragged anon away from PC kicking and screaming when he was typing this
Dating diagram it is.

>>714456626
don't forget that susie will give kris the smile if (you) say that kris will play again for her one day instead of playing together
this means it's possible for susie to do this twice in ch4, where as before it was a strict one per chapter

>>714457692
knight and kris huggu

>>714458050
You okay bro

>>714458246
>>714456626
>This interaction warns you that it's skippable
What the fuck Toby

>>714451327
>ch6 castle town, if and only if you've gotten all the shadow crystals
>all the cats are missing
>no tasques, half the shadow men are gone.
>even tasque manager, nowhere in sight.
>the only person that comments on it is queen saying "It Feels... Empty. I Know You Didnt Do Anything Kris, But Keep Your Guard Up"
>the three mikes are gone
>instead there are game carts on the floor
>they've been completely corrupted, all the cats are just FRIEND
>enter seam's shop
>he's been working on the pure crystal since CH5
>its no longer a shop space, but a normal room
>the pure crystal is complete...
>but so too has FRIEND's takeover, his missing eye is pink and his hollow smile is replaced with a toothy grin
>a battle starts.

>>714458050
Someone report this to the cryptid hunters, he got another one.

>>714458141
Kris takes damage whenever (you) take damage, as do the rest of the party. When Kris cut his hand in CH 4, you didn't take damage.

>>714458324
>tw: Krusie content

>>714458194
Well yeah, it'd be a dead end. But I trust Gerson more than I trust Ralsei that it'll have a payoff, whether it just be an optional thing to make the true route more doable like the Shadow Mantle was for the Knight, or something we *need* to do to get information that unlocks the flag needed to start or end true route, I dunno.
There's definitely something fucked about this entire situation and Noelles established secret finding game break powers/skills seems like the ideal way of at least finding answers on what the fuck is happening.

>>714458324
You can also pretty much just skip any susie and noelle scene. chapter 2 lets you skip the ferris wheel scene and 4 you can just make noise quickly and not hear them talk.
The diner scene is also completely optional. I think Toby just knows how much of his audience is shipperfags that get upset at ships they don't like so he just circumvents it by allowing you to skip it.

>>714458324
almost all of the best moments in ch4 are optional
this is why you have to play the game for yourself, retarded streamers will just walk past them

>>714458050

>>714457692
Kanako/fox knight if you would please...

>>714458538
Or find some non-retarded streamers.

>>714458550
Fuck that, Chujin Knight. That take where Chujin was a cripple irl, but was the DRY Knight equivalent in the dark world was cool.

>>714458497
>The end true route
Just buy [2] [Commemorative Rings] if you want to see what the end's like!
Turn one into the [cool sord] and the other into [a proposal],
Nothing bad will happen!

>>714458550
not this garbage

>>714458540
>filename

>>714458050
bro got onionsan'd

>>714458683
I would fucking kneel if the thing Noelle says at the end of weird route is precise instructions on how to do that glitch.

>>714458550
This is what turns Chujin into a schizoboss

>>714458324
Kris wants you to fuck off so they can rizz up Susie.

>>714458612
i'll admit he had the ideal reaction to the boneman and the slut
just pure condemnation, i'll admit it took me until kris in bed before i realized what just happened first time i played ch4

>>714458814
kris doesn't want to get too close to Susie because he knows his betrayal will hurt her

>>714458683
>Complete Weird Route, gaining Ultimate Noelle's blessing of gamebreaking
>A variety of intended game breaking bugs throughout the game become significantly easier to execute as they're required to reach the true/broken end of the game and change the future.

>>714457692
Knight doing sword work out while looking at a Vergil poster

>>714458497
Gerson giving his blessings is all I needed to know that Toby isn't just doing Genocide 2 Electric Boogaloo
I am very interested to learn why you would and are pursuing Snowgrave

>Does she lose her shit and need to be controlled?
>Is she too weak for a key moment to change things?(Noelle became stronger.)
>Is it breaking the world to find new paths?
Imagine taking the bunker info from Weird Route into another route

>>714458964
susie is THE most innocent character in the game

>>714458964
Be honest /v/entlemen
You like susie, don't you

>>714458692
(nobody tell him that sig is a major player in the yellow threads)

>>714459029
Who doesn't?

>>714457984
If I ever end up homeless (likely) I'm gonna buy a dumpster and live in it and yell at passerbys about how I used to be a real BIG SHOT.

>>714459029
She's a precious girl. I don't even want to have sex with her. Mostly.

I just clapped
BRAVO TOBY

susie is so evil it's not even funny

>>714459092
if they ever reveal her mother, I will lust after her instead.
Yes, even if it's Alphys

>>714459029
no way, who could like this?

>>714458223
If he was being dragged away kicking and screaming he wouldn't have typed basedvtyt0ffgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
f
>mu- maybe he was dictating it!
Shut up

>>714458991
Whoops! Too late!

>>714458998
>static_placeholder.ogg disappears

>>714459029
You look at this dinosaur and thanks for looking

>>714458998
>beat the Weird Route
>obtain [THAT THING]

>>714458520
Wishful thinking

>>714459029
she activates daughter instinct

>>714459148
>>714458991
If he ever opened his mouth about it he'd immediately destroy everything he's worked for, or put her in imminent danger.

TOTAL TV DEATH

>>714459047
explains a lot

DELTARUNE YELLOW
DELTARUNE GREEN
DELTARUNE BLUE
DELTARUNE PURPLE
DELTARUNE ORANGE
DELTARUNE CYAN
DELTARUNE RED
I NEED ALL OF THE DELTARUNES
NOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>714459338
for everything after yellow you will have to wait until those UT fangames are made at all

>>714459338
Deltarune Cyan IS Deltarune
Kris has a cyan soul

>>714458991
I feel like this is more about Noelle. Specially given the cactus connection.

>>714459338
Deltarune Orange should be a beat em up

(I) personally will defy the prophecy and create a happy ending, the one ending to the game that makes everyone happy, (My) choices are the only thing that matters.

>>714458246
Noelle's special private concerts just for her??? Taken away by susie???

>>714459338
I had a fucky idea for green.
The kid's name is Sa'Ni from a long line of wizards. Bright blonde hair and green eyes that he hides under a brighter red and yellow robe. Starts the game cold and calculating, warming up as he helps more and more monsters.
The trick is that he literally can't fight and instead takes the enemy's turn to dodge into magic circles. Sparing enemies feeds raw magic to the monsters, making food ingredients come into existence.
His grand scheme is nefarious,
One last Christmas dinner with the Holidays before Rudy kicks the bucket.

>>714459425
It could just be everyone, maybe he decided that it's better for him to be alone after what happened in his past. Especially if he hurt someone.

>>714459502
Already hidden away, for my sanity on the bingo card.

>>714459502
no
susie can stay in the room with krisp, noelle can listen from the couch

>>714459561
yeah I just find it funny how Kris has a cactus that (apparently) loves them and meanwhile Noelle also has a cactus that was at some point named Krismas.
Which could mean nothing.

>>714459593
We both fucking know that Sunibee space is free as fuck. Motherfucker caught the same cold Toby did, the only explanation.

>>714459593
>M rating
This would never happen now that the game is on the Switch 2

>>714459701
is nintendo cracking down on the literal hentai on the eshop?

>>714459636
It's definitely a joke about Kris being tsundere. Even if Kris wants to be distant he can't help but feel a connection to his friends.

>>714459701
nintendo ok'd corpse party, corpse party ii, and is releasing the corpse party tetrology pack later this year all on the switch
i highly doubt whatever toby has in store is any worse than that, even with an m rating

>>714459029
I LOVE Susie

>>714447110
heterosexual tribadism

>>714459751
>>714459763
He doesn't have the balls to pull it off.
Look at how he backed down with the rose thing.

>>714459593
what the fuck is sunkus

>>714459593
>free space
don't be discouraged

>>714459757
>Kris being so rough with us is just their tsundere side showing
I don't know how to feel about this, anons.

>>714459701
Depends on Toby really, both what his artistic vision/fever dream is/was, and how seriously/autistically he's taking it.

deltarune brown in my toilet

>>714459541
Alternatively,
Going down the original route means finding out the existence of elemental weakpoints for every monster.
Spells become more powerful and complex the longer Sa'Ni channels the spell. There are actually two routes, the "competent" route in which he annihilates every monster in a single spell, ending their suffering without them ever feeling the pain.
The "incompetent" route turns Sa'Ni into a horrified mess. Failing to kill monsters in one spell makes Sa'Ni have to listen to the screams of torture he himself inflicts.

>>714459809
he eventually replaced with the cracking effect
i admit i also thought he pussied out by removing the rose, but now i don't know what he's up to

>has a ring that can derail the fucking prophecy
????????????
How? Why?

>>714459965
he has Friends.

>>714459965
He got it off a littl [Phonecall].
[Ring]... [Ring]...

>>714459965
Cause he’s [[BIG]]

>>714459965
it doesn't
the shadow crystals show that the prophecy doesn't change, even if noelle is under (you)r control

>>714459965
Simple. His friend gave it to him. Same friend that gave him those shades

>>714459965
People will throw anything out, it's crazy the kind of shit you can find in a dumpster.

>>714459593
Noelle gets roses
Susie gets lavender (they're masculine)
Ralsei gets golden flowers from undertale

>>714452029
>ASGORE DREEMURR
>UR DEER GORE ASMR

>>714459293
>>714458991
>>714459561
The whole situation reminds me of a Soviet movie, "The Ordinary Miracle". You know, character pushing away girl he loves because he knows their love will inevitably lead to tragedy. I hope the resolution will be the same - him getting told off for being a fucking coward and not taking his chance regardless of consequences, and then doing something absolutely crazy and brave to earn his love back.

>>714452029
>>714460179
>SPAMTON
>TAMPONS

>>714460179
oh shit

>>714459593
It's high time to replace that free slot already.

>>714459817
I really don't know, but a walking lowercase japanese k store mascot that nobody knows about is probably up Toby's alley.

Kris is the girl

Wears Ribbons
uses a Sword
the only party member who can wear the gloves with the princess ribbon
the girl "has hope in her heart" and "wields hope", gerson tells says she has a pen called hope, susie points out that kris is the one who uses pens for weapons (swords)
the cage with human parts is the vessel we made

>>714459029
Despite meeting all the criteria of a Mary Sue type character, she's so genuinely likable I don't even care.

>>714460338
he's right
TOBY WHERE'S THE FUCKING GAME

>>714460338
I don't think we'll see Gaster next chapter but I'm willing to bet this fucker is going to reveal himself as a Goner and disappear with the jingle

>>714460338
Onionsan is such a fucking goner

>>714460381
>"Here's your lesbian romance! Good day, xir!"
Toby Fox, I kneel.

>>714459965
There will be only 1 ending.
The other one is a fake ending where things change but the outcome is the same.
It's all part of the joke.

The only real choice the player has is to turn the game off before it happens.

Truly deep and genius
Bravo Tojima Fox

>>714457692
Knight meeting Noelle.

>>714460381
>girlkris crushing on her older step brother
>hugging the weird lobotomized effigy of him in the dark world
cinema

Kris?

>>714460381
but then who's the cage?
unless we're operating on the second hero and the girl being two different people

>>714460075
>Noelle gets roses
>It uses the old deflowered rose effect when handed to her.
>But the petals do not fall away.

>>714460631

>>714460593
HEE, A HEE HEE.
THE LIGHTNER KNOWS NOT WHERE THE CAGE IS, BUT OPEN THE GAME AND IT SURROUNDS YOU!

>>714460593
the cage was supposed to be the vessel we make at the start of deltarune but its all oftrack now

>>714460475
>Making Kris a they/them to trick gays into accepting straight ships.

>>714460631
>>714460682
what's with the Dr Seuss font

>>714460682

>>714460338
>official tagline for the game is deltarune is waiting
>normalnpc tells you to not wait

>>714460710
Asriel and Dess are a surprising proof of that

>>714446519 (OP)
What if Snowgrave ends in Chapter 5 and trying to import it to Chapter 6 just gives a Noelle jumpscare

>>714458550
Yeah, this beautiful mess

>>714460075
>Ralsei's confusion and happiness turns to more solemn acceptance of the inevitable.

>>714460501
You just described the Halloween hack

>>714460710
And it worked. By god it worked.

>>714460756
That one, however, is still up in the air. There's bound to be some bitching when Knight is revealed to be Dess and everyone starts referring to her as "she" instead of "they".

>>714460785
I would kill Tobias Foxworth in real life, and in smash bros.

>>714457510
>knows literally nothing about [autistic nonsense people did before fanfiction was a thing]
might as well bring up renaissance-era syncretism

>>714460823
For some reason people are convinced that the whole point of Deltarune is to avoid retreading Undertale as much as possible even to the detriment of the story, but he is absolutely going to retread Halloween Hack.

>>714460885
>Spamton x Jevil
>Toriel x Dess
I have several questions
>captcha: VJGAY

>>714460940
They bring it up in-game a lot. You're playing a bible story about being possessed by the angel of light himself

>>714461014
>The reason why it gets an M rating is because Toby put halloween hack Andonuts as a super secret boss for the "ending".

For my money, this is still the funniest gag Toby's ever done. Not to say he hasn't done plenty of great ones since but this one is just god-tier.

>>714461023
>Toriel x Dess
Was supposed to be Asriel x Dess, I think.
>Spamton x Jevil
Remnant from Chapter 2 days.

>>714455724

>>714461102
Wow!
I hate it!

>>714457692
Robot knight

>>714460631
>>714460682
>>714460732
Am I mentally ill for finding this incredibly romantic

A HUMAN
A MONSTER
AND A PRINCE FROM THE DARK

>>714461135
This followed up by Bonetrousle kicking in was the moment the game really hooked me.

>>714461102
This is so reddit it hurts. I know they're our allies right now in KrusieAgenda and all, but still.

>>714461072
Are these refrencing anything?

>>714461162
>>714461286

>>714461298
a video on interracial relationships iirc

>>714461272
At least flip your image.

>>714446519 (OP)
The Knight is Dess' Heartless, the Heart inside Kris is literally Dess', Ralsei is Asriel's Nobody, the entirety of Deltarune is an elaborate ARG leading to the reveal that Toby Fox has been hired by Square Enix to helm the Kingdom Hearts franchise following the retirement of Nomura.

>>714461135
I can't help but agree with you.

>>714461336
DARK THE FROM PRINCE A AND
MONSTER A
HUMAN A

>>714461050
yeah-yeah as if this exact sort of """interpretation""" makes any more more sense YHWH in fucking megaten
get real anon, next you're gonna tell me hylics the videogame is AYKCHUALLY about atlantis and gnosticism

>>714461263
Sometimes romance can be dark

>>714461135
Man I love this game

So where the fuck is Papyrus
I liked that guy

>>714461414
Flipped turned upside down,

>>714460338
Alzheimer's is truly tragic.

>>714461512
Rudy version of this image when?

toby sucks has no idea what he's doing

The big 'message' thus far in Deltarune is that escapism is fine, but is dangerous if overused or relied on too much. Its essentially one big dig at the worst aspects of fandom culture, which makes sense, given that Toby has been involved with absolute fucking cancer like Homesuck and Underfail and now this.

The problem is that the characters he's applying it to...can't help it. The three kids (Noelle, Kris, and Susie) are all horribly damaged to absolutely no fault of their own. No part of peeling away from escapism and facing their shitty parents (or lack thereof) will never, ever change their situation. You cannot undivorce your parents. You cannot conjure new parents into thin air. You cannot save your dying dad, or stop your mother from being a turbocunt.

I don't understand what the fuck he's trying to say with these two conflicting messages. Its absolutely bizarre to look at the situation the characters are in and say "Yeah, but escapism BAD, stinky fandom nerds. They should go back to real life, where mom and dad aren't there/are divorced/are dead, and DEAL WITH THEIR PROBLEMS!!!"

Especially when Toby is a scrawny white suburban nerd who likely has never faced a lick of hardship in his entire life aside from fandom drama.

>>714461531
Don't forget,

>>714461449
>I GOTCHA ACORN RIIIIIIIIIIIGHT HERE!!!!!!!!!

>>714461414
Needs Susie's Dark World recolor too.

>>714461553
Don't care just want closure on Gaster after ten fucking years

>>714461553
>>714461615
He wants reality to become fiction.

>>714461272
Ralseis version, not to be trusted

no monster mentioned, instead its the girl (Kris)

>>714461615
Gaster is Toby. He wants his story to be done, and then to get out. This has been obvious since Undertale.

DON"T read the comments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5locHsI6CFM&lc=Ugw6W95H2ZpMmEiWY-x4AaABAg.AJe6YIukLqvAJvyzSzM4i6

>>714461553
friends fun

>>714461658
ok i won't
what now

>>714461553
Can we, like, move past the escapism paradigm? It's clearly is not the main theme.

>>714461553
>>Especially when Toby is a scrawny white suburban nerd who likely has never faced a lick of hardship in his entire life aside from fandom drama.
This is basically all you need to know.

>>714461658
Its our fault anyways. He changed it because people on /v/ complained it's OOC for Susie.

>>714461689
We're in chapter 4. Unless Toby pivots, and if he does, it'll be a fucking mess, Escapism Bad is the theme.

>>714459338
Deltarune Orange would be Val shoehorning the Deltarune style of story into a monster of the shounen battle manga.

>>714461765
>Toby lurks /v/

>>714461793
>doesnt like acorns

>>714461553
>who likely has never faced a lick of hardship
Yeah, aside from that time when his fucking wrists blew up, but it's certainly just a minor setback for a composer, right?

>>714459541
ruined with the last line, soul fangames (UT or DR) should rely mostly on their own characters.
yellow only included asgore and toriel because UT is framed in a way that makes it impossible to avoid them.

>>714461869
How new?

>>714461882
I'm sure he's wiping his tears with his benjamins. he can do it all digitally, anyway.

>>714461882
Or that he left his parent's place to go to Hussie's basement and whatnot where he grinded for 16 hours a day for his game (Undertale) along with working on music.

>>714461882
Toby, I know you're like, 28 or something, but getting assraped and forced to change careers has been the mainstay of the last 3 global recessions. And most people don't get to exploit teenage fujoshis to become millionaires after losing said career.

>>714461757
It's like the whole fandom has forgotten all of the 666 associations gaster has in the UT game code

>>714458050
Toby got another one

meat, too, is an acronym.

>>714459878
>Kris is abusing us because he doesn't want us getting attached to him and his world

>>714461910
>It's framed in a way that makes it impossible to avoid them
You think Asgore'd miss the kind kid make Rudy's last Christmas something special?

>>714461973
If the player is the angel, then the terms angel and demon are meaningless for determining morality. They just describe whether you're an Outside from <<above>> or <<below>> the current layer of reality.

>>714461970
Let me guess, the only career change you ever made was from food service to retail.

>>714461757
What if Gaster gets revealed for his big fight and he rips his robe off to reveal he's jacked

>>714455198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFw4zF-M5f4

>>714461135
Papyrus jumping through undynes window PEAK

>>714462074
ywnbaw

>>714462074
Analytical Chemistry to Microbiology, actually.

>>714462051
Aside from the fact that no one asked for Kris ever. Why should I give them the benefit of the doubt or clemency?

>>714454753
OH MY SIDES! keeeeeek
Noelle obliterated Kris, Megaman style.

>>714460501
The weird route won't have an ending. Its a soft lock that stops the story from progressing, stopping the prophecy in the process. It doesn't credits or an end screen, it just leaves you wandering an empty world with no one in it. You're free from the prophecy, but you're all alone in a broken home.

>>714462074
Did I strike a nerve, Toby?

>>714462091
beware the man that fights with hands

>>714461793
>Escapism bad is the theme
>When Susie says that she wants the adventure to continue forever, gerson pretty much calls her based.

>>714461553
undertale didn't have any kind of real serious theme either, even the pacifism shit wasn't really supposed to be an actual serious message, asriel tells you at the end of the game "yeah that doesn't work in real life lol". undertale and deltarune are just outlets for toby's autism and are best viewed through that lens

>>714454753
Spawn One Thousand Hybrids

https://gamebanana.com/mods/601389

>>714462091
THE MAN WHO SPEAKS WITH HANDS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-kr7wL7nUg

>>714461075
>eat shit faggots
>no more calling kris they/them since (s)he is an actual person
toby has enough gay apologia juice only for one thing
choose wisely

>>714462051
I'd honestly love for this to be canon, but I know that if this happened, the fanbase would claim that Kris was actually Stockholmed into caring about us because we're le heckin' controlling them. There's just no fucking winning.

>>714461553
anon, you entirely made that “response to fandom” angle up. thats not why tobys making deltarune. theres a “game” (in HEAVY air quotes) for what youre talking about and its name is psycholonials

>>714462237
That's even worse than default. Anyway, Whitesei grew on me in chapter 4, him looking a little freaky fits with his character.

>>714462185
1. Gerson is a senile old man.
2. The point of that conversation is less about the story not ending and more about Toby telling (you) to make games/write your own shit if you want to mash action figures together and get off his back.

>>714462309
FVAAARRKKKKKK

>>714453550
Gerson has a yellow eye and pink hair.

>>714459593
>>714459675
I have no idea who that is or what they've predicted. Redpill me.

>>714461263
Its an edgy kind of romance

>>714462309
KINOOOOO!

>>714462309
>Fangs on a deer
Terrifying. Continue.

>>714462380
Random degenerate porn artist. Somehow predicted all the Noelle Soul snowgrave/weird route shit when like, chapter one came out. No fucking clue how.

>>714462317
>thats not why tobys making deltarune

>Hey, here's a game with all your favorite characters from the last one
>SIKE IT ISNT THAT AT ALL AHAHAHAHAHAH ITS ACTUALLY SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>FUCK YOU EVERYONE IS DIVORCED AND MISERABLE, PLAY AS A TEENAGER THAT HATES (YOU) FOR PLAYING THE GAME!!
There's spite in this game even if it isn't really directed at a group of people at large.

>>714462362
>get off his back
What do you mean? I think people have to remember that Toby is making Deltarune for himself and no one else.

>>714453820
What's the deal with his idle animation?

>>714458246
Bros I'm worried I won't be able to protect that smile

>>714462410
Real

>>714462309
>>714462453
I wonder why Sunibee deleted some or all of his Deltarune drawings.

>>714462472
hammer brother reference

>>714460785
What if its that, but instead Noelle kisses you?

>>714462472
Kalinka is playing in the old man's head

>>714462540
When do they ever do this

>>714462317
but, that aside, i don’t even see what the issue is? yes, escapism is good as long as you dont overindulge and lose yourself. yes, those who employ escapist tendencies usually have a good reason for doing so. i would understand if you were one of those “deltarune’s moral is escapism bad” reductionists, even though you would be wrong, but deltarune isnt forsaking escapism as a whole. i genuinely dont understand what the conflict is

>>714462469
>FUCK YOU EVERYONE IS DIVORCED AND MISERABLE, PLAY AS A TEENAGER THAT HATES (YOU) FOR PLAYING THE GAME!!
Anon...Kris doesn't hate you for playing the game. Kris hates you because they're your enemy. You're a hero who is trapped inside the main antagonists conflicted but loyal right hand man, and said villain is using your soul as a mask to infiltrate the party.

>>714462528
I literally just grabbed the Noelle/Kris one off their twitter just now.

>>714462550
But (I) am Noelle

>>714461765
>susie is... le nigger

>>714462309
mindbreak is good and nice, but we need edgekino so bad

>>714458497
Your picture inspired me for a theory.

If you finish a full weird route Kris will be able to hear what Noelle is saying in this shadow crystal and the information is VERY important to the main route

Fuck gaster
My choices matter

>>714462091
>Goat milk has more calcium than cow milk
>The Knight was trying to abduct Toriel
>Goat mom wears a delta rune robe
>MY DELTARUNE
>Onions are rich in nutrients that helps post-workout
>EGGS ARE RICH IN PROTEIN
>EGGS ARE RICH IN PROTEIN
>EGGS ARE RICH IN PROTEIN
GASTER ABSOLUTE UNIT THEORY

>>714462756
>She just whispers you instructions on how to execute game breaking bugs
kino

>>714462647
>conflicted but loyal
Lolno, he is completely against whatever is going on, he just has no choice.

>>714461615
>Gaster
>closure
>implying there was an opening
here's the truth
you might not like it, be wary: "torn across time and space" just means the character was scrapped and recycled out of the story
that's why alphys pulls double duty as anime nerd and mengele, and why one of the grey guys talks about "a world where everything is the same but you aren't there"

>inb4 literally anything from deltarune
an opportunity to capitalize on obsessive fanboys and maybe recontextualize a few things along the way

>>714462613

>>714462720
I really hope that we're mindbreaking Noelle into the bloodthirsty yandere serial killer she was always destined to be, and ultimately be just as dangerous to us as she is to everyone around her, rather than a mindbroken puppet.

>>714461967
Living in Hussie's basement is a hardship I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.

>>714462816
>he is completely against whatever is going on
Conflicted
>he just has no choice.
But loyal.

Before this thread dies. We talked a lot about Noelle glitches and game breaking gimmick.

But what will come out of Kris being a know Cheater? There was a lot of that in chapter 3 but I remember people talking about during the after 2 hiatus so there must of been something I forgot in the earlier chapters.

>>714462981
The fact he *keeps* the SOUL even after Weird Route shit shows how fucking committed he is to whatever the fuck he needs us for.

>>714453820
so
was he just a darkner or literally Gerson's soul having a giggle?
how does he tuck all that hair in a hat?

>>714461910
I think showing what the DR exclusive characters' UT equivelents are up to in the UT universe would be fair game. Its an alternate universe, so you're not going to contradict or be limited by canon with them.

Did you guys see the post about ERAM being inside undertales Memoryhead yet?

>>714463036
>Noelle is able to find game exploits with ease and abuses them all the time.
>Kris is a flat out cheater
This feels important.

>>714463041
Don't forget how they cut down Susie and Ralsei if you beat the Knight.

>>714454237
Artist?

>>714463113
Someone is supposed to be sacrificed and Kris gonna swap them with a copy.

RIP my flying ace....

>>714462065
>Demons are below reality
>Angels are above it
>Both parties are trying to drag/raise us into their realities.
This is literally what Alex Jones believes

>>714462060
>>714461910
Oh right if we're still spitballing how's this for a setting,
Off the river, down where the riverman doesn't take, is an island of banished monsters.
There for treasure, there for medicine, there to dig.
There because of crimes committed. Sa'Ni will encounter the scum of monsterkind, the little evils that are unacceptable even with Asgore's tin rod.
All this to find a little herb, said to prolong life, to fill someone with enough willpower to overcome death's door.
Atop the cliff guarded by the banished witch, her domain undefined, her scheme to take Asgore's soul foiled-- her magician's court thrown out. She alone can help Sa'Ni find it, so long as he goes along with her little schemes.
And in the end, do what he pleases with the Herb-- with a promise in exchange.
Sa'Ni may give the herb to Rudy, Sa'Ni may consume it himself, or perhaps he may bring it to the surface and save humanity from death.

>>714463036
it's implied Kris knows FRIEND in the Noelle's posts from that cat game, probably cheated his way to meet that death screen

BEHOLD MY DEMONS

>>714463036
>Kris, hehe! Just between us... You like gambling?

Yes

>that's not true. You just like cheating.

Come on Kris... show me what you got.

>>714461075
Gaster will quote his speech word for word

>>714462143
>>714462292
It could be just as much for practical purposes as it is for not wanting to be attached to us. Maybe his plans require that leave and stay gone at the end, so making us hate being here is another way to ensure that.

>>714454237
...

Ralsie is taller than Kris....

>>714461161
You could swap Spamton with Terry and nothing would change

>>714463272
I like the implication that was also an Asriel hand me down that Dess likely gifted to him

>>714462362
That still goes against "escapism bad". That's "escapism good, but the best kind is the kind you make yourself"

>>714463107
Nope. Let's hear it.

>>714463262
>Minotaur smirks

>>714463114
That faggot goat deserves it for kicking me out of cutscenes to gossip with Kris alone.

>>714463272

>>714462471
He means to not be upset if your ship is sunk when he's trying to tell his story

>>714462918
>replying "it's only natural" when noelle thinks of zapping kris
obedient murderdoll does have its appeal, but frankly it's boring to command anyone who doesn't have the guts to (try to) kill me
now that's some twisted romance

>>714462309
So is this before or after she gave his chest a deep cavity search? (the second one, after she'd already stolen the soul)

>>714463480
Well it's less hear than see.

https://www.tumblr.com/ballgame/787970165567569920/fuckkkk

>>714462828
I know he retconned himself, what I want to know is what his plans are. What is he doing in Deltarune and why is he doing it?

>>714463602
In that case, we're in 100% agreement.

>>714463837
>ERAM. THAT'S ERAM. ON THE MEMORYHEAD OVERWORLD SPRITE. WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCK.

>>714461075
>I'LL SHOVE YOUR [Ripe Buns] SO FAR DOWN YOUR WIND[They're crawling out of the Pipes!] THAT WHEN YOU TRY TO [Scream] INTO THE [Receiver], YOU WILL SING GOD DAMN [Laura Shigihara]
>TL;DR EAT [$!#!], [[Hyperlink Blocked]]!!!

>>714463640
whatever feels more romantic

>>714463610
>playfully tries to murder (you) because she knows (you) can just load game is she succeeds

>>714463870
>Be not afraid, Kris.
>Because I'm going to NO-HIT these retards.

>>714461553
We're at, or, 5% past the halfway point
We don't know what the message is yet, if there even is one

>>714463919
No, anon. That was part of a comic series. In one panel Noelle puts her hand in Kris's chest and takes his soul. Then after that she sticks her hand back in and feels around just to see how it feels to torture him.

>>714461272
>>714461653
>the vessel could, theoretically, fill all three roles by itself (cage with human parts and soul, the girl, alone in the deepest dark (deepest dark being the space gaster's stuck in))

>>714463895
>>714463837

>>714463938
Oh fuck.
When Noelle realizes it's all a game, she'll want to fuck around with it as much as possible. She's the most dangerous schizo that would know too much.

>>714461553
there wont be a message.
the game exists as a vessel for his fever dream from over a decade ago.

>>714464369
Queen was explicitly worried about this.

>>714464369
>>714464415
>She's the most dangerous schizo that would know too much.
queen literally spells it out

>>714464369
>>714464415
>(you) and Noelle have your honeymoon in the backrooms

>>714464494
>Complete Weird Route
>Noelle achieves her final form
>Begins using exploits to follow you across save files

>>714464415
>>714464494
what if snowgrave's permanent consequence is that noelle [wakes up] on all [proceed]ing runs on that save file.
she immediately recognizes the dark world as a game and immediately gets to work on trying to break it.

>>714464314
oh shid i think i didn't saw that one then

>>714464554
Don't forget.
Who says it's just one save file?

>>714464585
>Save slot is now permanently tainted with Awakened Noelle
>Can no longer progress Weird Route on other saves

>>714464369
>>714464415
>>714464494
>Toby already did creepypasta with Shadow Mantle and a bit of Snowgrave
>next step is corruption where we literally corrupt Noelle which will then lead to her trying to corrupt the game, glitch interactions, clip through walls and see beyond them
Chara 2.0 here we fucking go.

>>714453006
Mike Hunt

>>714464778
>>714464772
Who says she didn't follow you all the way out into that place?
Noelle followed Toby. A fever dream, chills and a cold.
The [Angel], from a prophecy foretold.

>>714459965
Kid, a real salesman never gives out his [citation needed]

>>714464934
>>714464772
>>714464778
>>714464841
maybe thats why toby said the game will need another gamemaker update later

>holidaygirl1225 Deltarune Let's Play: SPEEDRUN TIME ANY%

>>714464415
>>714464494
Combined these into a single image.

>>714464794
get em boys

>>714464934
>noelle was the fever dream
>the "ending" he saw was noelle shattering the game's logic, to follow (you) between saves because you turned her into an obsessed schizo
>toby tried to shake off the idea
>but she stuck with him
>it was at that moment, he knew that he had to bring noelle into reality.
oh shit nigger what are you doing, you're summoning a demon.

>>714462472
Old man is just hyped to kick some ass

[YOU BETTER WATCH OUT]

>>714465251

>>714462828
>spoiler
Yeah no I don't buy that at all
Gaster was always meant to tease Deltarune. Why else would there be all this vague shit about him in a game that's already finished?

>>714465180
Noelle already brought FRIEND into her world through that CatPetterz game, it is only fair we do the same to her