BOKU NO DELTARUNO DESU

>>714907874 (OP)
What's his cats name again?

>>714907001
>the graphic of [the girl] with a heart shaped object over its chest
it'd be fucking hilarious if we jumped over to her and she still retains a good amount of control.
>"dang kris, having an eldritch entity inside you is pretty sick."
>kris stares daggers into susie
>"i can still do what i want and it helps me pull the occasional prank"
>...
>"honestly kris, all you had to do was exert a little will and it'd be fine"
>...
>"WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU WERE TRYING TO FRAME YOURSELF AS THE BAD GUY?"

>>714907874 (OP)
Kris is not a flawless gud boi. He is working against you and his friends.
Suselle is losing HARD.
The player is not the bad guy.
Susie is the only good person.

Force archiving the thread in baby rage will not change the truth.

>>714907874 (OP)
What do you think of our fuarking hero, the Hammer of Justice?
https://youtu.be/lLbw5LCvTfo?si=QwBhAb2K8zTG8LWh

>>714907874 (OP)
>DELTARUNO
it's derutarun
baka

>>714908189
wrong on all counts except suselle

>>714908090
As long as I can help her, and do the right thing, she can take lead when she needs to.
We're a team.

>>714908358
He's cool but I wasn't the biggest fan of him pulling up to the Titan fight. I guess it was necessary to show that maybe the team wasn't ready for Titans yet then again it wasn't really by his strength that we won, but genuinely just Susie's idea.

>>714908358
He's old!

remember that weird episode of the cartoon?

Life is going badly but at least Deltarune is still waiting for me

>>714908570
Considering 4Kids obsessively censored all the minor swears, I'm surprised they got that one past.

What is Gaster's relation to FRIEND?
At this point, the "garbage noise" sound has more association with Friend than it does Gaster.

>>714908087
friend

>>714908189
>xhey/xhem still thinking the player is the big bad
Did these trannies even play Undertale? This was BTFO already

>>714908701
I'd say none. FRIEND is some horrible abomination Noelle had created by accident.

>>714908810
You aren't the big bad but you can become it if you try hard enough.

>>714908701
gaster probably created friend, id say. that's what entry 17 is about, along with creating a dark fountain for the first time

I came to Deltarune to complete the mission. Seal the Fountains, Kill the Knight, Stop the Roaring. That is what I care about, nothing else, amf I can't even have that. I have no allies in the game who will actually take orders the way they're supposed to.

Deltarune is allowed to say "FUCK" once during the remaining chapters
Where should it be said?

>>714909117
When Eggman is finally exposed and everyone say it

>>714909020
who would be the people he's talking about to in the entry though?

>>714909117
Sex scene finale

>>714909117
Kris, where the FUCK are we?

What are the odds the game will end with the world being fucked up beyond repair (Three HEROES appear at WORLDS' edge.) and will have to resort to creating a new timeline where Roaring will never be allowed to happen aka Undertale timeline (the prophecy part that Susy destroyed being ultimate sacrifice of humans and monsters that will never be born because of that)

Only pissbabbys seethe at Kris being a bit of a meanie >:'^(

>>714908858
>I'd say none.
But how could that be? I know I said the garbage noise is more associated to Friend, but it still played in Entry 17 which is also Gaster related.
>FRIEND is some horrible abomination Noelle had created by accident
Not completely untrue, you're missing the fact that it was (likely) born from an egg given by the Forgotten Man, who we know has a link to Gaster. They've got to be connected in at least some way. The DEVICE_ suffix is also associated with Gaster after all.

With chapter 3 and 4 out now, I think I can conclude that humans are worst race in UT/DR. A lot of bad shit can easily be traced back to them and every single player character can either fuck things up based on Your command or already fucked something up which caused the plot to happen. And we as players are always get their shitty hand.

Your love becoming theirs make me think of a parasite.

>>714909117
a meta joke
>welcome to the flower world!
>everything here is rated E for everyone!
>what if i said FUCK
>darkner gasps in shock as the world's age rating goes up to T
>susie laughs.

These threads have single-handedly made me headcanon that the Soul is a disgruntled war vet hellbent on completing the mission and it absolutely despises the teenage drama going on around it and the retard it’s locked inside of

>>714909358
I'm not sure the connection will be as big, and how could Gaster exist in the DR world where it's pretty much said he's from UT, unless he managed to go to the past
but if he got to the past, why didn't he try to change things? Unless he want the UT world to exist

>>714908189
>The player is not the bad guy.
Yes I am.

>>714909117
when you think about noelle

>>714909524
won't be as big, I mean

>>714909117
>Don't fuck with the $!$! squad!

>>714907874 (OP)
Based GODponese anon. We love Japanese art here.

so is the red dot that appears when you think about noelle spr_mainchara?

>>714909117
In the inevitable equivalent to the Dr. Andonuts boss fight from Toby Fox's Halloween Hack.
Question is, who's going to say
>TL;DR eat shit, faggots

>>714908189
True. Based post.

>>714909117
kris calling sans a dirty mother fucker

>>714908701
FRIEND is just threorybait.

wait does he really use "boku"? what a fag

>>714909117

>>714908189
Why is Noelle not a good person? Because she downplayed her history with Kris to try and impress Susie?

FUCK DOES
IMPREGNATE DOES
ORIENTATION PLAY WITH DOES
KEK DOES
PUBLICLY HUMILIATE DOES

Toby based Deltarune on Democritus

>>714909719
This *will* happen
How will Toby tone down the tl;dr?

>>714909678
no

>>714909358
I don't want a Stone Ocean ending, and Undertale being the result of that.

>>714910017
He won't
He'll do it in chapter 7 and completely disappear from the face of Earth after the release

here are the candidates and requirements:
>the first hero. the cage with human parts and soul
kris, the vessel
>the second hero. girl, with hope crossed on her heart, equips ribbons, swords, female
noelle, dess, susie(?), kris
>the third hero. the prince, alone in the deepest dark
ralsei, dess, asriel, lancer(?)
>and last was the girl. possibly same as the second hero, unclear. LOVE/ love will find it's way to her
noelle, susie, kris
have i missed anything/ anyone?

>>714907874 (OP)
>Catti enters the Dark World
>All her fur turns black

Noelle should not be permitted videogames.

deltarune hard mode

>>714908087
Darknerperson

>>714909874
>laser cheese darkner

>post yfw INCREDIBLE.
>I FELT IT THERE
>SHINING.

>>714910351
... what happens if you do that?

Kris is yellow, Susie is pink.

>>714910470

the prophecy has a 1:1 correspondence with the major arcana tarot cards or am i schizophrenic

>>714910470

>>714910017
>tl;dr eat shit, *f slur*

>>714910576
But Kris is blue and Susie is purple

>>714909438
what did humans do in DR
>>714910018
there is no blood_drip sprite retard

>>714907874 (OP)
>boku
*ware

Is Gaster actually YOUr hypeman or he's just bored and curious about the events going on. (he probably already knows how they SHOULD play out)

>>714910470
>never got that message because i A. never jobbed to the final attack and B. was manually resetting since i didn't know you could get quick-retries if you just rode out the loss

>>714910508
You get a Friend for [FREE NO VIRUS].

>>714910668
Honestly if he went with
>What I'm trying to say is...
>Eat shit, Kris
would you enjoy it

>>714910017
He already referenced it subtly with "Eat dirt, losers."

>>714907874 (OP)
>New Patchnotes
>Removed Erroneous appearance of Duplicate Kris
So, there's an intended appearance, then?

>>714910671
I never asked for this.

>>714910695
Kris is yellow in the normal world, but you're right about Susie. Ok, then what about this: Kris has been playing one half to a duet.

>>714910780
Wait do you mean you had to sit through "T-TENNA!?" every time?

>there's a special gaster message only on Playstation at the end if you managed to avoid any achievements (this is extremely hard to do)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ori7ZkQNCr4&t=153s
HUH

>>714910639
You know the drill. Construct an MS Paint conspiracy corkboard

>>714910470
GASTER IS MY BRO.

>>714910945
yep.
thankfully it didn't take me THAT many tries, maybe like 10 at absolute most.

>>714910470
You got it, old man. I'll stay determined.

>>714910920
We're playing the other half?

>>714910962
Wait, if he says "What are you"
This mean he doesn't actually know who is the soul. and he only helped on the vessel.

>>714909452
kek

>>714909117
>Late game Rouxls Kaard battle
>He pulls out all the stops
>You win
>GOD
>........
>F U C K I N G
>DAMN
>IT!!!!!

>>714910671
Funny how all those edits started because I posted this shitty Soul Noelle edit first.

https://chronowiki.org/wiki/Chrono_Trigger_(Item)
>In Chrono Trigger, the Chrono Trigger is an egg-like item given to Marle and her party by Gaspar to help bring Crono back to life after he is killed by Lavos. Gaspar says that the egg has the potential to revive Crono. He also says that to hatch it, you have to treat it like an egg, though like an egg, it may or may not hatch.
>Afterward, the party travels to 2300 A.D. and talk to Belthasar. He reveals to them that Death Peak has the power to restore life. However, he says that the "deceased must be important to the space-time continuum" and that they must have a clone identical to the deceased person. He also tells them that the magician, Norstein Bekkler, can make clones and hint that he is at the Millennial Fair.

https://www.chronowiki.org/wiki/Norstein_Bekkler%27s_Tent_of_Horrors
>Norstein Bekkler is some sort of mad-scientist-turned-entertainer. Not much is revealed about him, except that he exists somewhat outside the reality of the game. (...)
>When the party want to resurrect Crono, Belthasar tells them that a "doppel doll" would work well and tells them that the magician Norstein Bekkler could make one for them and tells them that he loves festivals. If they can find a fair, then they will find Norstein Bekkler somewhere at that fair.
>It is revealed that they needed the doll to replace Crono with during the moment of his death, so it would appear to their past selves that he had indeed died, thus maintaining their past selves' motivation to bring Crono back, avoiding a time paradox.

>>714911119
Who knows, somebody is going to. Maybe they already are or did.

>>714911194
Rouxls deserves it

>>714908087
Niggerman
i couldn't stop laughing when reading the rats in the walls

>>714910962
Why do Playstationfags get to have achievements? Fuck you, Toby.

>>714908548
I was fine because of how it tied into Susie's character development.
The fight against the statue shook her. She thought she fucked up and turned the old man into a creepy mindless monster. Someone pointed out her dialogue in that fight resembles an emotionally abused kid: she tries to admit she messed up and it's all her fault even though she doesn't know what's wrong and she just wants her parental figure to calm down and stop being mad. Doubly so since Gerson was the first mentor that was able to connect with Susie, by her own admission. It's why she was so emotional when she was yelling at Ralsei after, because she was freaking out over something he knew but didn't tell her, and then the fucking fire extinguisher just tells her that the code was on it the entire time, so making the second dark world was a completely pointless screw up because she jumped to a stupid idea without considering all the possibilities first, and until Ralsei explained it was a statue she thought someone else she cared about had suffered for her own mistake.

So when Gerson rolls back up to the Titan fight, it's to reassure her that she's still on the right track and needs to stay motivated. And when she gets her idea, it's her way of saying, yeah okay maybe her ideas are stupid and reckless, but she will always commit to them herself instead of just leaving someone else to suffer the consequences.

>>714911326
So very coy of you Anon

This is the only theory I've seen someone make that isn't some retarded shit like "the prophecy is the weird route" or Kris swoon shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8X4pYjw5CM&t=402s

>>714908701
>DUDE GASTER IS EVERYWHERE AND HAS HIS HANDS IN WHAT'S HAPPENING
Why are redditards like this?

>>714911405
Toby hates achievement, but he's forced to have them on Playstation for the game to release on it

>>714908701
The FRIEND comes from within. Who do (you) think (you) are?

>>714910470

>>714911445
People continually assume (We) are the angel, but at the same time, we've been referred to as the Demon Heart in game already, as well as been implied to have been summoned when Kris tried to summon a Demon, and Gaster threw us into here and he's got a whole thing with 666.
Also this concept art mural from Undertale shows the angel with weird fucking snakes and the closest thing we've seen to that is a flavor text saying that "The darkness slithers like a snake", also the Titan we saw had literal Angel wings. I'm near positive (We) aren't the angel, and that it's some fucked up thing we haven't seen yet.

>>714911526
At least he added that challenge of beating the game without any achievements to the point Gaster doesn’t even know what to make of you

>>714911859
desu shouldn't it be worrying that Gaster seemingly has some kind of knowledge about the game being a game?

>>714911820
That’s my FUARKING hero Susie “the dragon” on the left there

>>714911405
achievemets are just data tracking for corporations with a coat of paint
gayest shit ever made and normalfags like you eat it up

>>714911820
Our role in Deltarune is Toby's response to retarded Charafags who can't accept responsibility for their actions. (You) are the demon that comes when people call its name.

>>714911820
TRAGEDY STORMS HIM
WHEN DEMONS SPARE HER LIFE
AND ALL DISCOVER
SHEEEEE HAS A DEMONHEART

>>714908189
TRUTH NUKE

>>714912031
Yeah, data tracking about how much of a gamer I am!

>>714911961
I’d be more concerned he thinks the eggs are an issue. There’s no shame in a egg

>>714911324
>mad scientist with disembodied hands that exists outside of game's space-time continuum and helps with creating a doll for the player
>he loves festivals and is present during an in-game festival
I'm scared bros

>>714911324
>Vessel is discarded in place of Kris
Will he do this beat for beat though?

>>714912031
personally I think it’s funny that achievements prove that most people who buy games don’t even finish them

>>714912182
Egg Man is DTverse Gaster, White Text is UTverse Gaster, they don't like each others.

>>714911194
I unironically want a battle with him on your side where you get ACTs that let you change the rules of the battle.

You think there's still a possibility DR does some files fuckery or even interact with UT files at one point?

>>714911820
>that cut mural in Snowden of an Angel and Dragon fighting
Toby, I see what's coming. Noelle and Susie are going to crash out.

>>714912303
>Achievement unlocked: You started the game!
>60% of players have this achievement

>>714912314
This but in reverse. It’s a good guess and was thinking that myself, being split across time and space allows the story to ignore chronology

Rude Buster being the default battle theme has to mean something by this point right?

>>714910780
>since i didn't know you could get quick-retries if you just rode out the loss
I swear this was added later.

>>714910470

>>714912541
not anymore
it got upgraded variants in ch3 in the form of ruder and vapor buster, then replaced completely in ch4 with 'from now on'
although i'd bet on one last version called rudest buster for some big climactic moment

>>714912704
>Rudest Buster
nah, we're gonna get Red Buster instead

>>714908189
So who does Susie get with?

What does Rude Buster even mean

Suzie ain't going to make it

>>714911420
good post

>>714911134
It's a metaphor, bro. He is just shocked at how well we did. Like how people ask athletes what they are made of when they break a record.

>>714912892
Snoozie will be left alone in a dark void for all eternity. Only by looking in undertale do you have a chance to find her.
You won’t though

Pipis are dangerous

>>714912868
unless toby is a complete hack, she either gets with kris or nobody

>>714912792
>the pink and yellow make red
>susie and noelle have the pink and yellow battle icons
>red buster is the mixture of noelle and susie
So either suselle is real or susie and noelle fuse together to become THE GIRL

>>714912998
Would be kino but I'm not sure how you could interact between both games, especially with UT having all these endings, it wouldn't just be an update to UT it would need for DR to directly change UT

>>714912870
That was pretty rude, Buster.

>>714911445
>Player Angel
Not watching this retardation.

>>714912868
What if the person Susie ends up liking depends on the player's action during all chapters?

>>714913040
She got a shit ton of death flags in the last chapter.

>>714911820
Where did this art come from?

>>714911820
That Angel is literally Noelle btw.

>>714910470
I don't remember where that part was

>>714912870
“Buster” is just a word in anime/manga they throw onto attacks to make them sound cooler

>>714911445
This person is not very good at conveying information

>>714913223
can't have a romantic relationship when you're dead

Why is Asgore fighting you in Snowgrave (based on the ice game)

>>714913252
the knight fight, after you finish the chapter if you reload your save you'll get the option to quick-retry the fight if you lose again
if you beef it to the final attack gaster says that to you

>>714912038
>Game straight up says Kris enjoys the Weird Route and likes blaming it on the player to be blameless.
>Same thing the fanbase says the player does to Chara.
I think if anyone is being BTFO'D, it's you.

>>714913252
Because you probably survived the knight's final attack on your first try.

>>714912870
susie is so rude that she can cause psychic damage just by insulting you

>>714907874 (OP)
knight is the vessel you made at the start of the game screencap this

>>714913252
So you forgot about him...

>>714913223
>She got a shit ton of death flags
Who doesn't, at this point?
>Kris
>Rudy
>Ralsei
>Undyne
>Dess
>Asgore
>Asriel

>>714913371
Oblivion Theory lost lol.

>>714908087
Doc.

>>714913354
People are twisting the "part of you that enjoyed it" to just the player of course. Kris can do no wrong to this fandom.

>>714913118
DR is obviously setting up a sad/bittersweet ending, I don’t think they’ll add anything to UT but the fact this line is here at all indicates that something in DR is going to make the player want to see her in undertale.
That or it’s just meta for the fact UT only exists to create DR, and I simply haven’t taken the mandatory schizo pills for DR shitposting

Toriel is whoring again...

>>714911820
you (player) and you (person) are two different entities. the angel being the player means YOU, and to them that's some eldritch higher dimensional being. the soul is just a little funny heart that u move with the arrow keys or whatever.

>>714913393
Rudy is a living death flag, of course
Why Asriel?

>>714909437
I thought it was a fucking pipi gifted by Spamtom.

reminder that Kris could have prevented Snowgrave but he chose not to.

>>714913393
My nigga Papyrus

>>714913475
>DR is obviously setting up a sad/bittersweet ending
So like Mother 3

>>714910671
>kris isn't smiling
fake and homosexual

>>714913223
Actually think its Ralsei who's been having death flags.
>sections during chapter 4 where you can't rely on Ralsei for heals, training you to not rely on him because you won't have him for much longer
>him telling you it's best to forget about him, because he knows where the story is heading
>entire build up to Susie's heal, because she might be taking over as your main healer for awhile
>possibility for Noelle to become the new Ralsei in your party

>>714908358
Knight's nike attack of doom
Gerson got a miss

>>714913493
Piles of dust.

Gaster will be important in the grand scheme of things without needing to do ARG shit to encounter him, but he'll be introduced in a way where his role and importance in the story make sense to someone who's never heard of him and it'll eclipse all the Undertale scientist easter egg stuff we currently know about him. He'll have a role that's thematically relevant to the story and all the stuff about his origin as royal scientist will be little more than a bonus backstory dwarfed by his more direct role in DR, tossed aside just like how the sweepstakes ARG stuff once all the "secrets" it foreshadows can be directly seen within the game after the scenes in the chapters it refers to actually release.

When it's all done, it'll start feeling weird to think of him as an Undertale character instead of a Deltarune one.

>>714913354
Every Mephisto requires a Faust, anon

>>714913475
I genuinely wonder what Clam Girl means about Suzy being the reason Frisk fell down underground. It's specifically adressed to her, not the player. I really hope it isn't some Stone Ocean shit.

>>714913487
It would be easier to use Susie's terminology and say that your soul is a severed hand that exist in the UT/DR realm and not the entire person.

>>714910962
>collecting the eggs means you didn't "complete the chapter without a problem"
god damn it. i'm really going to have to find all the eggs. on my normal/aborted SG/SG saves.

>>714909358
the story will end with one of the parties creating a dark fountain that's so large it envelops the whole world, creating undertale, a weird mirror reality of deltarune. the angel will be very happy (you will be pogging out of your gourd)

>>714913393
Even I get deathflags, I have been coughing alot recently

>>714913612
I wonder what else Toby stole from mother 3

>>714913471
>you know what it is
>pink and yellow! pink and yellow! pink and yellow!

>>714913354
>Game straight up says "In this world it's kill or be killed"
>Game straight up shames you for self-defense

>>714913354
>>Game straight up says Kris enjoys the Weird Route and likes blaming it on the player to be blameless.
That's one way to interpret it. I think ERAM means that Kris takes solace in the fact that the Weird Route isn't their fault because they're already laden with so much guilt over what happened to Dess. They're able to have an enemy they can hate instead of stewing in their self-hatred like they presumably normally do.

>>714911820
>>714913169
do you even understand symbolism retards

>>714913640
The Deltarune, which represent us and the fun gang in this image tells me that Susie is going to be lost and we're going to be in utter pain for it.

>>714907874 (OP)
AAIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
SAVE ME GASTERMAN

>>714913827
I feels like the whole deal with Kris is that by nature or due to what happened in the past, he's a pretty troubled kid, but in the weird route, the soul just ends up far worse than him.
Hell when you think about it, and it's pretty funny considering her role at the start, but Susie might be the somewhat ONLY normal teenager of the main cast

>>714913827
>snowgrave is the only route where Kris becomes a hero and gets her childhood friend
>it's the one where we play the ultimate villain
Kino.

>>714909437
>>714909208

>>714913612
yeah but without the crossdressing trannies inviting little boys into a pool to "awaken" their powers

>>714908358
Gerson is the Jia Qiu of Deltarune
>super strong but only intervenes when needed to
>espouses alot of philosophy
>beats some self respect into one of the protags
Except gerson is operating on western British ideals similar to Tolkien and Qiu is literally Confucius.
I think they'd get along

>>714913354
>Game straight up says Kris enjoys the Weird Route and likes blaming it on the player to be blameless.
I think it's interesting that 4chan is probably the best place when it comes to actually piecing together niche lore and schizotheories, but is fucking terrible when it comes to analyzing character personalities

>>714913992
It’s Kris and Dess he’s talking to

>>714913992
Sans still has the Blasters, so he must have a connection, Now if it is already in motion in DR or will happen when Sans move to UT, we don't know

>>714913837
Yes. That's why I don't believe in Player Angel.

if there's a jannie looking out there for me, can you tell me what country the charafag is from so I can make fun of his ethnicity/sleep schedule, thank you.

>>714914045
the power of autism

>>714908358
Doesnt hold a candle to the weakest stick figure animation, why is the camera so nervous? Why are the sprites so blurry? It doesn't give the effect of speed, you gotta do elipses/lines like Dragon Ball did so many years ago

What's sad about this is that some studio will pick up this subpar artist who will dilute down good animation where they'll work

People here have such an annoying habit of treating their interpretation of ambiguous information as correct without the requisite degree of skepticism

>>714913969
It bears repeating that Susie feels like the only real protagonist.
>>714913985
That one theory about (You) becoming the ultimate villain in order to keep the actual villains from progressing their plans enough to get any of our heroes killed is pretty damn neat.

>>714913475
>>714913745
Toby's greatest twist is he'll update Undertale once DR is complete after its sad ending, and let you see Suzy and she's a small dragon girl living a happy life

>>714914278
I don't think the soul has any greater plan, in snowgrave they are just doing terrible things for the hell of it, and it's what awakes Kris actual feelings. He might be a kid with a lot of issues and probably conflicting morals, but he still has some good in him.

>>714914345
>LE THEY DIED BUT THEN GOT RE-ENCARNATED IN A NEXT LIFETIME SO THEY CAN BE TOGETHER! (EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME MEMORIES AND THUS ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON)
Please for the love of god Toby Fox do not be such a hack.

>>714913475
I think it's more that Deltarune will cease to exist, but Gaster will take the "concepts" of its inhabitants and locations and populate other worlds with them.
The familiar people you saw in Undertale are not the same people as in Deltarune, but a reflection of their original selves.

>>714914045
Surely the mantle is just trying to baselessly get under Kris' skin and this couldn't possibly have any truth to it...

Weird route is just about YOU creating conditions for twisting Kris's and Noelle's romantic relationships and bringing the absolute worst traits of them with each other.
> Kris being the full on manipulative and creepy rapist
> Noelle being the sociopathic drone that just desires violence
If in normal route it's the good old childhood friends reconnecting and helping each other.
In weird route it's some psychological thriller type shit.
Regardless, love OR L.O.V.E will find its way to the girl.

>>714914345
The real twist is that Undertale will be a dark world and you need to play as Frisk to get everyone out in order to unlock Deltarune's true final chapters.

What does Sans have that Asgore does not?

>>714913538
Wrong, the route is specifically about forcing your influence upon the game, to the point Kris can no longer act at his own volition at all, and he's fucking terrified of it.

>>714913992
Are you mentally impaired?

>>714914640
did you sleep through the first 3 minutes of chapter 1 or what

>>714914345
>>714914586
I really don't want this to happen. Reincarnation is cringe and I don't want Frisk to just be Kris reincarnated.

>>714913804
it's green and purple retardo

>>714914516
Kris and Dess used to adventure in dark worlds taking the Mantle game approach to adventuring. This is the "REAL fun" that Ramb refers to and why Ramb thought Kris would enjoy Mantle.

>>714914345
Being able to play Undertale with Suzy/Susie and Noelle in a party would be incredible. And hilarious when Noelle just freezes Undyne or something.

>>714914516
>The same part of you
>Part
Yeah, that's what I mean - people call Toby a hack and shit but he's able to write multifaceted characters that are able to feel conflicting feelings, like a part of Kris that enjoys the Weird Route (for currently unclarified reasons, given we still have 3 chapters left of context not currently available to us) but also goes out of his way to haul Berdly's retarded ass to the hospital despite the fact that nobody really likes him that much; Deltarune written by the fanbase would either have Kris be generic pacifist Frisk 2.0, or generic genocide Chara 2.0, but either one would probably be slurped up by the guy who keeps whining about "chungus Kris"

We might still be WAITing 16 more month before chapter 5 if we are unlucky

the angel has always been able to take multiple forms/interpretations, this has been true since undertale.
the angel can be the player and some kind of titan thing and noelle (if thats the hill you wanna die on i guess), each in a different manner, it doesnt have to be one way or another. until we know more at least

>>714914605
No, Kris has shown, multiple and multiple times on on end to resist or deny the actions that you try to make him do, even after Snowgraving Berdly, or equipping Noelle.
He made literally no attempts at stopping Snowgrave

>>714914739
look at the background

>>714914736
Frisk will be Kris and Susie's child who goes into the underground dark world to rescue everyone including her parents, trust the plan.

>>714914717
No? I just don't get why he drew only one person (Kris) when Gaster is addressing two.

>>714914889
I doubt he would be kicking the shit out of you if so, it probably just requires him enormous strength and damaging his body when he's taking controls, so he doesn't do it much because he could easily dies, and in the scene just before, he was already without you, so he probably already was tired

>>714911396
the rats in the walls is one of his best stories, and it's very funny that the cat is it in

I'm a simple lad, I like pure evil Frisk because he never stops us from doing Genocide

>>714913795
Asriel is our Masked Man he will also exploit something in the battle system to fry himself. Dess is the knight and our Porky because her fight should technically be unwinnable, (You) will cry

>>714912870
The joke of Susie Buster (Rude)

>>714915085
Honestly I wonder if Frisk even is still inside as Genocide continues or if he gets swallowed by Chara's will.
Chara though doesn't act much of their own, they just watch most of the time while you are doing the deeds, they only do a few minor movements, killing Flowey and killing Sans (you do the first strike, they do the second)

>>714915085
Extremely intelligent post.

>>714914896
anon
you have color blindness

>>714914875
I think it's *probably* not the player *most* of the time. Given the amount of Demon imagery ascribed to (Us). The only real link we have is from that angel doll section, which while notable, might be a fakeout, since we have to *escape*/tear out of the angel doll to progress anyway.
Notably if you look back in Undertale the "Angel" was either Asriel or Chara. No it wasn't Frisk or the Player. It's either Asriel from breaking the barrier at end of pacifist, or Chara erasing the world at the end of genocide. No it was not the player/frisk being the angel in genocide, there were surviving monsters in shelters, Chara is the one who permits total world erasure, so they'd be the angel in that case.
I think there's a good chance that the characters in universe will *mistake* us for the Angel, but in reality it's something else.

Where did you guys get this about the SOUL being a "demon heart"? Where did that come from?

>>714914839
somehow I thought the insinuation would be turned around and the 'part' of 'you' (Kris) was going to mean YOU (soul) and I was going to have another conniption fit from the Flowey monologue in Undertale's genocide route.

>>714915085
That's because Frisk isn't being possessed by anyone, unlike Kris. Outside of Chara's influence growing inside her in that route, I guess.

>>714915323
>Asriel or Chara
And how did they empty the underground and why didn't they do it before you arrived?

>>714914741
what if the reason why kris is so gigafuck strong in dark worlds is that he and dess [got stronger] across countless of dark worlds made throughout the town.
his real dark world stats are maxed out beyond belief. the stats he shows/uses are simply a sham so that you dont catch on too soon.

>>714915046
nigga it's rude to talk like i'm not right here

>>714915404
raise up your bat uncensored lyrics iirc, “when the demon heart is crying” or something

>>714914903
>Frisk is part dragon.

>>714915404
the real lyrics of raise up your bat
i wanna theory post about them right now but im tired and there are a lot of implications to work through.

>>714908570
Do you think farrier's are a big profession in the Deltarune universe? IRL they aren't that common anymore since hardly anyone owns horses, but if a sizeable portion of the population had hooves they might get a lot of work.

>>714915507
That, or it could be a different heart.

>>714915319
Compared to the characters in the foreground, yeah the background is yellow. And the purple can pass as a dark pink
>but technically
Stop being autistic about an obvious joke about pink and yellow being significant in the game.

>>714915473
anon? asriel absorbs every soul in the underground save for napstablook, and frisk/chara in genocide clearly serves the role of the bleaker “angel of death” that frees the monsters from their shitty lives through death (and eventually total erasure)

>>714914249
I don't need skepticism when I know I'm right.

>>714915473
As I stated, Asriel broke the barrier, freeing everyone. Chara erased the world "freeing" everyone (from life). They didn't do it earlier because they needed respectively SOULS and LOVE. Which we the Player and Frisk supplied them. Though we allowed it to occur, those two are the ones that actually pulled the trigger on it.

>>714913393
>Dess
That's more like a being already dead flag.

>>714915629
>asriel absorbs every soul in the underground
And none of what you said would've happened without You as Flowey cruelly points out. My point is, if you took You out of the equation, nothing happens.

>>714914839
Fucking finally someone gets it. Part. PART. It is entirely possible to get a sick thrill out of something and not be a complete psychopath monster. Just because part of Kris enjoys Snowgrave doesn't mean he's all in for it. Fuck, it's entirely likely he hates that part of him likes it - all of us have been there to some degree, where we experience something that we consciously dislike but secretly find appealing. It's human nature to feel that way, yet everyone uses that line to justify Kris being a total monster who would happily fucking torture his friends and family for kicks because he lives in a society.

>>714914839
>>714915765
You aren't really denying what the anon said, you're just throwing nuance into the topic.

>>714915705
That's Asriel. Dess can work both ways - either she was dead all along, or we will fail to save her.

>>714915543
Fuck, I can't unhear Joel's voice.

>>714910470

>>714913795
i played mother 3 and earthbound after ut/dr. there are so many shared themes, allusions/callbacks, and samples that it borders on plagiarism. deltarune is pretty much mother 4

>>714909021
BASED

Why can't I get the egg in chapter 2 on the weird route? It makes no sense

>>714909021
But you aren't here for that.

>>714915479
id believe something like this
>kris arbitrarily gains and loses power depending on the circumstances
>does regular damage to tenna unless you get the shadow mantle and (You) know that kris planned all of chapter 3 behind (You)r back
>in which case he literally tears off 1/5th of his HP every swing and even changes the check message to say how fragile tenna is
>does fuckall damage to the knight unless he's alone in which case he starts pumping some serious numbers
>snowgrave spamton fight has kris doing way higher damage and even having his own signature attack he never uses elsewhere
>the speculation that kris SWOONs the party when you beat the knight

https://www.reddit.com/r/Deltarune/comments/1ltxhry/did_noelles_room_change_again_in_the_new_patch/

Read the replies

>>714915816
>you're just throwing nuance into the topic.
I'm sorry but this phrasing made me giggle

>>714916249
It's because the dumpster room during the weird route uses a different room ID and events than the normal dumpster room that triggers the egg room, meaning it's not running the funny random chance teleport thing that's in the normal dumpster room.

Asgore WILL help us kill the Knight and redeem himself.

>>714909117
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

>>714915765
It is also, however, possible that even the part of him enjoying it could be a result of his status as seemingly soulless. Much like Flowey did shortly after becoming what he is, he tries to hold on to what he remembers wanting to feel, when the only things that really gave him any stimulation were new experiences, until he took foreign souls anyway
Kris could be in a similar state much of the time, with the only reasons he's not fully falling into apathy being that he has a soul shoved inside him a fair amount of the time

>>714915726
So? Doesn't make the Pl*yer the Angel.

>>714916449
And Toby hasn't fixed that yet. He truly is a hack.

>>714909021
Your “mission” is to get stronger and erase this pointless world. Even if you befriend everyone and do some stupid pacifist run, your just gonna reset and do the weird route anyways. Don’t forget about your partner and don’t forget to dab on sans once you beat him again

>>714913393
>Will be fine
Most secondary lightner characters including Toriel, Carol, Asriel, the classmates
>Some odds of death
Susie, Berdly, Asgore
>High odds they
Ralsei, Kris, Noelle
>Might as well buy the coffin tier
Rudy, Dess in at least one ending

>>714915816
Yeah. I never said Kris was a psycho, but people who live and die to defend Kris' honor always deal in absolutes.

>>714916353
I saw nothing of value there.

Asgore sissies…

>>714915816
I'm not trying to deny what that anon said. I fully believe Kris enjoyed the power and control he felt he had over Noelle. My issue lies in the fact that very few people who read that line are willing to accept the possibility that Kris might be a nuanced character with conflicting emotions. They see that line and think "OH YEP HE'S JUST CHARA AGAIN WHAT A PSYCHOPATH LITTLE FUCKER", even when we actively see Kris do good things on his own. It's so goddamn black and white with these people and it drives me nuts because it just exacerbates the existing media literacy issue, where every hero has to wear their heroism on their sleeve and never do a single fucking thing wrong, lest they be classified as "SECRETLY EVIL????"

>>714916361
I love this image. We need more Flowies.

>>714915432
i kinda saw the line in a weird way. Like
>the same part of you that enjoyed yesterday
was referring to Kris deep down liking the moment and
>Knowing you could say it wasn't really you
was implying that the Mantle knows Kris wasn't really in control in that situation, so more of a "it wasn't really YOU who pushed it in that direction." or at least Kris would want to rationalize it like that. but despite that, deep down part of him still liked it in a twisted way.
the takeaway I got from the conversation was less "player bad" but the Mantle wanting Kris to give into that bad side of himself he clearly wants to repress. kinda like a shoulder devil

>>714916634
>where every hero has to wear their heroism on their sleeve and never do a single fucking thing wrong, lest they be classified as "SECRETLY EVIL????"
Never forget the old days where the few characters who made some fuckup with actual consequences basically had actual internet wars fought over them

>>714916573
Glory to Chara the human administration.

>>714916613
Does that mean he will be big and strong and a heart of gold?

Frisk is a non-character

>>714908087
Negrodude

Kris is just annoying. (I'm) beating is ass up the first chance I get.

>>714916634
not gonna lie, I feel like this explains why people glaze Susie so hard - she's so straightforwardly good that people will latch onto her just because she doesn't induce complicated feelings

>>714912585
Nah I did it day one. You just had to watch the ending first and then load your save

>>714916501

>>714913985
>Kris becomes a hero and gets her childhood friend
>"her"

>>714916852
They're easy going, charismatic, hate soda, and got a bit spooked from the Amalgamates. That's about the extent of it, no real moral scruples or anything, they're good doing whatever the fuck.

>>714917042
Which is ironically a flaw in Susie's rushed character arc turning her into a perfect good girl who does no wrong anymore

>>714917130
had to spice it up between all the his and thems

>>714916353
>>714902343

>>714917130
>he didn't clean kris' menstrual blood corner with susie

>>714913473
Let's be honest. If Kris was just a guy instead of a ""they/them"" that insane twitter troons can project their mental illness into, everyone in the fanbase would acknowledge that he's a shady little fuck.

>>714917130
Before chapters 3+4, Kris was "forcing" Noelle into an abusive heterosexual relationship lmao. How quickly things change.

>>714917037
This, once I get my vessel and he’s knocked out I’m putting his teeth to the curb and running over his head with his Dad’s truck. Gaster will clap.

>>714917042
lmao this, normies can't into subtlety these days

Da, Kris is white straight Russian man from motherland

>>714916573
Would chara approve of all our weird activities or call them pointless since murder is simpler?

>>714917042
Her straightforward pure goodness will make her inevitable crashout from Kris's betrayal all the sweeter.

>>714916780
Alphys hate is so fucking retarded
Well actually I can sort of understand it at the core. It’s the discussions (if you could even call them that) that are fucking annoying

At some point people will realize that Toby didn't give Kris gendered pronouns not because he's nonbinary or because he's supposed to be your self insert but because he simply just wanted to leave it ambiguous and they/them pronouns was the only way to do it.

>>714915543
Seem like we gonna have water level on a ship "through waves" before we reach the shellter

>>714917387
right, right
https://files.catbox.moe/xxgbum.PNG

So people have mentioned that the screen tinting here is called susie_overlay, but does the effect in the scene where all the colors go fucking weird when you're trying to force the Thornring back on Noelle have a name?

>>714917487
Kris has a bit of that russian autism in him

While you waste your time and energy on these threads, I spent time spreading Noelle cuck memes and Kris=male posts among twitterfags until they block me

>>714912868
(us)

>>714917554
Chara is mostly just a perfectionist/completionist and wants to see EVERYTHING a world has to offer. They get baffled when you do Genocide multiple times over.

>>714913354
>>714913354
>>714914045
>>714914516
>Weak to Ice: Use your strongest Ice Magic
People are so quick to mention Noelle's dark urges and her leaning into her id, but God forbid you mention Kris being the same exact way. He's conflicted, as was Noelle with her thoughts during the Electric Traps.

Why is everyone incapable of viewing anything outside of black and white good and evil? This is not Undertale again.

>>714917759
>i jumped into a septic tank to show that diarrhea whos boss
good job anon

>>714917759
We can multitask, anon

>>714916634
>where every hero has to wear their heroism on their sleeve and never do a single fucking thing wrong, lest they be classified as "SECRETLY EVIL????"
This is something I've been thinking about a lot with Toriel. The jitterbug scene really rubbed people the wrong way, and people have been calling Toriel a bad mother and a bad person because of it. And sure, she made a mistakes. She's made several mistakes that we see with Kris. But she also loves him, and it's obvious she is trying, and I don't think she's a bad person for being irresponsible or a little clueless. Yet if I say this in a discussion about Toriel and Sans, there will be no shortage of people angrily denying that Toriel has value, or sarcastically saying that she didn't do anything wrong because yass sister or whatever else. No one wants to have discussions, they want characters to fit into one or two easy to understand boxes and never deviate.

>>714909934
Based

>>714917759
perhaps we Kriselle and Krusie chads arent so different

>>714917852
You lost me by trying to defend Toriel, that whore.

>>714913790
Check for mold in your house.

What if Kris is just autistic and only identifies as non-binary because he lives in a town of faggots?

>>714915543
>>714917613
It's easy to see the demon heart as the enemy, but the heart is used as an ark to travel through waves according to the bridge and the heart crying doesn't necessarily mean it's crying as an enemy
Could be subversion, could be that the intro is Snowgrave and the bridge is normal etc.....
Water is a huge theme in Deltarune and Dark Worlds so far

>entire thread is tertiaryposting
yep, time to go back to >>>/vg/

>>714916353
I hate how faggots keeping stealing all the colors. First the rainbow, now pastels.

>>714918074
i believe in the 'toriel couldn't tell what sex kris was despite the manuals and started treating him like he didn't have one'
adds to the dehumanization aspect of kris

>>714917796
I miss my partner. Business is booming, but we got nobody to enjoy it with.

>>714917557
Yeah where we're going is pretty obvious
>Susie finds out that Kris has been working against her this whole time
>He's put the town, maybe the world at risk to try to save some other girl
>After Kris recognizes that his personal hangups aren't work destroying everything over and that he can't bring back the dead, he turns hero and saves everyone
>He and Susie reconcile

>>714909117
Ralsei when he realizes kris is secretly working with the knight and only closing them because he’s controlled by a lovecraftian being

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HAPPEN AT THE FESTIVAL
>ffx scene where you get to spend the day with whoever you want
>SEX SCENE (non-negotiable)
>starwalker

>>714908701
FRIEND is (You)r primer, (You)r Doc Scratch

>>714918118
t. quaternary

>>714918074
Kris is a boy and is referred to as "they" by the monsters because they can't sense his sex the way they can intuitively sense each others.

>>714918234
muffet bake sale

>>714917852
Nah, it's easy with Toriel: she's a whore, she's a bad mom, she deserves the rope and so do you for defending her

>>714914076
that is Kris and Dess

>>714918118
>/vg/ tourists when you don't respect le pronouns and suggest the wholesome chungus character he projects into does bad things

Imagine if at the end of the game you actually do break the prophecy, save the world, and everyone gets a happy ending, but then Ralsei turns to stone because he no longer has a purpose.

>>714918234
ferris wheel ride with Noelle, and we shake the cart when it reaches the top

>>714918234
>Knight just flat out appears directly in the Light World and crashes the Festival before any romance happens.

>>714918187
>'toriel couldn't tell what sex kris was despite the manuals and started treating him like he didn't have one'
Do monsters just not have genitals then?

>>714918402
Are you trying to out-avatarfag the humanfag autist by chance?

>>714911204
it also started on /doe/ with the shadow guy

>>714918234
My sources tell me Kriselle and Krusie appreciators are convening and plotting to end Suselle
That's my wish, because I CAN DO ANYTHING

so uh...how the fuck can the Knight FLY and SHAPESHIFT if they're supposed to be some joe schmo lightner?

>>714917654
desaturate_fx I guess

>>714918234
Ferris wheel ride with Noelle, and Noelle shakes the cart when it reaches the top

>>714918234
Just give me a cool boss fight and i'll tolerate pretty much anything

>>714918187
I prefer the "Being the Player Character metaphysically makes you a They/Them ambiguous" or alternatively "All Humans are sexually ambiguous They/Thems in Undertale/Deltarune"

>>714918431
Susie with force herself into the ferris wheel with Kris, much to the shock of Noelle, to talk about Dark World stuff

>>714917554
Chara picked a terrible way to go out and tried to force Asriel to kill people, she’d fucking love the weird route

>>714918387

>>714917759
Based
The more troons are quitting the fandom scraed of memes, the more we claim Deltarune for chuds

>>714918234
I want the chapter to start with Kris missing, the cage door unlocked because Kris was freaking out too much to properly lock it, and the window open. So we leave the cage and float out.
We can explore the upper part of the town a bit, but as we float by Noelle's home she sees us and grabs us. She thinks we're some odd looking balloon, so she takes us back to her place and ties some string around us, then takes us to the festival.
At the festival she runs into Susie and Kris. Kris immediately spots us and is trying not to visibly freak out as Noelle gives us to Susie. The entire time is Susie hanging out with Noelle and Kris, and we help Susie play festival games while Kris gets into increasingly stupid shenanigans trying to grab us without the other two noticing.

>>714918572
Anyone could learn how given sufficient time in the dark world.

>>714918413
Remember how Spamton wanted your [Heart-shaped object] to become a real boy? Note how Ralsei has a heart-shaped slot on his chest.

>Asgore enters the dark world
>It turns out he's been wearing a wig this whole time and it becomes a darkner

>>714918624
she's going to do that when she gets in with Susie

>>714918234
Fucked up edgy romance on the snowgrave route. Adorable wholesome Krusie romance on the normal route. Berdly actually getting a win for once.

>>714918234
Anything that isn't Suselle and Soriel scenes

>>714918713
it's either Dess or Ralsei
I don't think Susie would let you choose

>>714918489
there has to be something to it, everything we know about kris paints the picture of him not being the type to give a single fuck about pronouns, so somebody else had to start using them for her

>>714918663
susie can hang out with berd- oh wait...jockington

>>714909358
I think Deltarune is on some kind of unstoppable loop and some characters may have meta knowledge of this and are working together behind the scenes to break out and take control of their fates.

>Freedom is a huge theme in Deltarune
>Toby's claims that there's only one ending
[s]>Suzie saying to Gerson that she would let the story go on forever if she could. [/s]
>Jevil convinced that everyone else is trapped
>the_world_revolving.mp3

And nothing can defy Suzie's will, not even (you), meaning she probably has some kinda control over everything. She holds the pen writing the story, and the others are trying to keep her believing that Kris is the main character.
Schizo rant done.

>>714918834
Nope, that's only her and Kris' thing. Susie will mistakenly not really assume Noelle has feelings for Kris and will shove them into cabin while making an excuse to leave them alone. There will be an awkward silence between Noelle and Kris, then Noelle will smile earnestly and start shaking the cabin.

>>714918663
Susie already stole the chance to hang together at a festival with Ralsei and stuck us with Noelle, who's to say she won't do it again (this time for the opposite reason)

>>714918859
It's coming.

>>714909358
WE'RE NOT DOING THE SCRATCH AGAIN

>>714918952
don't forget that susie tells kris right before sealing the fountain that she wants everyday to be like the last
timeloop theory is still on the table, people just didn't realize who would be the one doing it until now

>>714919095
(COMING)

>>714919045
I was about to say the same, actually.

Toby's fever dream predates undertale the ending won't be dependent on undertale or a prequel to undertale, if we see sans fuck off and jump ship it'll be before the ending.

what do we think about DRY?

>>714919118
But what if,
We did

Chara’s a boy
Frisk’s a girl
Kris’ a girl

Source: Temmie told me in a dream

It's coming in chapter 5. It was foreshadowed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-0RZeIfT4Y

>>714918952
Stop schizo posting.
There is one real ending like in Undertale with credits and shit. Anything else is just your autism

>>714919292
Well played, you piece of shit.

>>714919178
My guess is Normal route literally doesn't have an ending because Susie will use the Soul to reset the timeline after everything goes to shit, yeah. I'm hoping then that we need to do Weird Route afterwards, which lets us unlock the real ending route for one last run. Seems odd to only have 2 routes but three lines of save files.

>>714918234
The entire festival becomes a dark world and the light world cast get dark world forms.

>>714919192
STRAIGHT FROM (YOUR) HOUSE

>>714919256
kanako

>>714919256
I have spent the last 48 hours on UTY threads, and keep the UT/DR fangame thread open constantly in another tab. You tell me.

>Is that...a doe that wasn't raped yet?

>>714919374
banishing the angel's heaven could be stopping noelle from freezing the world
or it could be finally ending the best and worst week of susie's life

>>714909934
Does what?What do they do?

TRVTH NUKE

>>714919256
dunno i gotta play it first

>>714909358
No, (You) will use your fucky SOUL magic to scrape together a party of vessels consisting of Susie (Magenta, brought from Regular), Noelle (Yellow, brought from Weird), and the Vessel (Red/Key, brought from Twisted)
and it's all because of FRIEND's meddling that you can actually pull off a win
That's the thing about dominoes, Kris.

>>714918704
TOBYFOX YOU LEAVE THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW
YOU HAD SANS BOTTLE BONE MY MOM

if DR ends anything like how soul nomad can in some of its evil endings ill never doubt tobias foxworth ever again

>>714919374
>Normal Route focuses on Susie
>Weird Route is all about Noelle
>Third Route is all about Kris and the TwistedSword
>filll all 3 save slots
>"PREPERATIONS COMPLETE"
>Chapter 0 unlocks

>>714918234
>Kris and Susie watch the fireworks together from a spot outside the festival without people
I think this would be nice.
Or some kind of situation where they just sit together in a comfy quiet place. I loved the scene where they sat by the lake.