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>2015+10
>I am forgotten
>>716157467 (OP)spider
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>>716157467 (OP)the original creator of this made porn of fictional underage characters so muffet will never appear again
>>716157467 (OP)Toby planned for her to be the mayor of Hometown before this
>>716160713 happened.
>>716160713>>716162607I fucking hate muffet so this is fine
no the creator is doing other things so toby wont commission them again
>>716157467 (OP)If only, and Robert was reduced to the leftist subversive lolcow that he should be...
>>716160713What? You have any source for this?
>>716160713>ideological subversive attracts pedophilesGets better and better, don't it?
>>716157467 (OP)never seen this character which Deltarune Chapter she in
>>716157467 (OP)Nobody lasts forever kiddo.
>>716164223The prequel, where Robert showed off his bona fides and proved why he was fit for the oikophobic-subversive cool-kids club that was taking over both the hobby and industry with little resistance in 2014-2015...
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>>716160713Muffet and So Sorry! got references in chapter 4. They're probably not going appear again, but if Toby REALLY wanted to distance himself from their creators, he probably wouldn't have done that.
>>716165224>So SorryOh, right, the obesity-fetish character whose original artist was (and is) part of a zoophile grooming cult. Strange how Robert keep associating himself with these "people," isn't it?
>>716164185Muffet was created by the same person who made the Ava's Demon webcomic. There was a furor when they drew a 13 year old character nude. He's overstating it to make it sound worse than it was, nobody but a handful of tumblr pearl clutchers ever gave a shit.
>>716165401Why are you ignoring the part where the creator paid several thousand dollars to have his character in Undertale?
>>716165493>tumblr pearl clutchersThe same website that had to ban all pornography because too many people were posting CP, was offended by CP?
>>716165589He could pay me the GDP of Tuvalu, I would still refuse.
>>716165637iirc it was because of the apple app store
>>716164641what the fuck does any of that even mean? why does this game attract so many schizos?
>>716165720And too many people were posting CP.
>>716165849I did genocide as my second route before true pacifist.
>>716165792dunno how real that is cause it gets thrown around at just about every website people have a grudge against
>>716165774>what the fuck does any of that even mean?Remember those people we euphemistically called "SJWs"? That.
>why does this game attract so many schizos?Right? Two separate "artists" contributing characters to his game that wind up being degenerates. Fancy that...
>>716165943If the people who were using it were saying it (and they were), I have very little reason to doubt.
>>716165849I killed both of your kids, once.
My bad, homie.
>>716165849you don't look like a skeleton
>>716165849persona 3 velvet room ass
But at least you remember him, right?
>>716166447I'd never forget Hot Coldman.
>>716166447Oh shit it's max minguy
>>716165493Do you got a link to the art in question or a source?
>>716160713I wish Toby hadn't taken money from degenerates to include their shitty characters in his game and instead done that with that one faggot who has a whole fucking book on how to use his retarded OC on whichever games he keeps shoving it into.
In fact, why can't game devs just NOT accept money in exchange for "have your character in the game!!!" perks instead? That shit is and has always been dumb as fuck.
>>716166447who could possible forget HeatMan.exe?
>>716166447What kind of name is CIA?
>>716166719What was in that big "diss track" last year? Something about how certain groups of people move in flocks?
>>716164468sword game wasn't a good replacement for the weird route
>>716164468Now that the honey moon phase is over, I can understand the frustration of waiting four years for THIS.
Weird Route hardly changed much besides the scene in Ch.4.
It's my fault for expecting a harrowing funeral scene for Berdley, but still.
>>716165792The CP issue was that everyone was sectioned off into their own follower blog bubbles and because of that combined with worse moderation than /here/ led to CP rings using it as an under the radar sharing site.
>>716165849I still haven't played chapter 3 and 4 despite being very hyped for them.
>>716166447SPICY MICHAEL?
>>716167169And they were offended by a naked 13-year-old?
>>716165401>the obesity-fetish characterObesity is just a small part of it, Anon.
>>716164468>berdly doesnt even fucking die and kris says he'll be okimmediately killed any and all expectations for it, censoring the rose was the last straw
toby is a pussy
>>716165849im liking susie so much that i dont want to jerk off to her anymore
i want their to be more sexy shadow creatures in later chapters
>>716157467 (OP)Kindly FUCK OFF to >>>/vg/utg.
>>716165849I did Genocide 3 times just to fight Sans, I did it on a fucking tablet btw
>>716167347I know, see the rest.
>>716160713isn't toby friends with omocat? a known shotacon? i don't think he cares about your retarded fictional character discourse
>>716167342anon you're effectively doing the equivalent of lumping /a/ and /tv/ together because they're on the same site
>>716166719>that one faggot who has a whole fucking book on how to use his retarded OC on whichever games he keeps shoving it intoI have a vague recollection of this. Refresh me; it's been like 5 minutes since i've been outraged at something.
>>716165849I'm getting filtered by genocide route undyne. Those little yellow arrows are too fast for me.
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>>716167679Reize who hilariously enough became important to a Shovel Knight DLC
>>716167523That's three, that makes a trend. Robert, like all ideological subversives, is a degenerate and other degenerates flock to him because, what a coincidence, they all share the same beliefs.
>>716167574The difference is that Tumblr doesn't have that sort of division. Again, they all flock to each other.
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>>716160713You mean the dude who made Ava's demon?
>>716167394it would be really funny if glyde ended up being the only one who made an actual visible appearance
>>716167772>spectre knight campaign adds a backstory for reize>backstory breaks all the "rules" the creator had for himI still laff
>>716168119It would be really funny if "Glyde's" artist showed up on the Sex Offender Registry. Wouldn't be out-of-place with the other backer contributions...
>>716164468I can guarantee Weird Route is going to have an extremely shitty ending or just end the game prematurely, thus making this entire sidepath pointless because "uhhh Undertale had an evil route so deltarune needs one too ig"
I was never a fan of it to begin with and now it's just fizzling out as the game goes on.
>>716168318Glyde is in the Epstein files, confirmed
>>716167882>they all share the same beliefsyes, they dont think that fictional characters should be treated like real people. they took their meds, unlike you
>>716168454im just hoping weird route AND regular route both end prematurely but both are still required for you to get what you need to break the game and reach the middle route gerson tells you about
>>716160713>>716164185God i wish she just didn't give a shit what Tumblrites thought and kept making more juicy Ava's Demon porn. We could have had it all...
>>716165715He tried to refuse. Kickstarter TOS wouldn't let him.
>>716157467 (OP)Toby doesn't own her. Please understand.
>>716164903>>716166751I would deplete my life savings just for a nice, warm hug from Muffet.
>>716164468Being exactly the same as the normal route for 75% of the content, unlike KINOcide.
>>716168523>they dont think that fictional characters should be treated like real peopleExplain Undertale's plot, then, where killing fictional characters gets you chastised and effectively called an evil person.
>>716166447He has very hot porn with Frisk, so nah. Can't forget him.
>>716168863>killing fictional characters gets you chastised and effectively called an evil personNever happened
>>716164468To be honest I'm reminded that Genocucks are retarded and love gassing up their middling routes because it makes their thumbtacks stiff, people forget how much the very few good parts are surrounded by mediocrity compared to the normal routes being more consistently high-quality
>>716168863>>killing fictional characters gets you chastised and effectively called an evil personthey call you evil IN-GAME, not irl
take your meds anon please
>>716169060>who is Chara?
>>716168863You are given the choice to be a murderer but you get called a murderer if you actually take it. This isn't even chastizing, this is just shit like Link's awakening where stealing shit from the shop gets you labelled as THIEF. Are you a true taffer just because you were a jerk in a game that lets you be a jerk?
Did you have any breakfast?
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>>716168863>Explain Undertale's plot, then, where killing fictional characters gets you chastised and effectively called an evil person.The plot is "it's a video game, it knows it's a video game, one of the main characters tells you that this shit isn't supposed to apply in the real world, you are BROWN"
>>716168454>weird route diverges back into the normal route because plot and "your choices le dont matter xDDD one ending!"I will fucking crucify Toby Fox for wasting so many man hours on this garbage
>>716166447of course not, he's my favorite hideo kojima original character
>>716169162A character who is happy you killed everything and repays your reset by giving you a funny photo
>>716169292>you are BROWNno im not im PURPLE
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>>716160713>OG creatorturned horribly cringe
>>716160713So Sorry got a Cameo in Chapter 4 despite Twitterfags and Kiwifags seething over him for the past 5 years so I don't think Toby actually cares. Muffet will probably Cameo in the next Egg Room.
>>716168863Stop being a player brained retard and realize they're talking to the human child, not you irl.
>>716169292Toby should've embraced his kemonoshotacon lineage and gave us the choice to fuck Asriel right there where he stands.
>"Snowgrave will not amount to anything!" cucks still downplaying, coping and seething
KEK, when will they learn?
>>716169152>a game praised for its metanarrative complexity (and other postmodernist drivel) can have its defenders selectively say "nuh-uh, that's not real!" if it results in a criticism of the gameNice try.
>>716169257>you get called a murdererOf fictional characters, except it's still important you know that you killed them and feel bad about it, for some reason.
>>716169292>it's a video game, it knows it's a video game, one of the main characters tells you that this shit isn't supposed to apply in the real worldBut you still have to take its message seriously.
>picYeah, like when someone is an evil alt-right literal Nazi ("chud" wasn't in vogue when this was released) and needs a good wallop on-sight. Their words.
>>716169593Alphys deserves heterosexual correction, i will make her get married to Asgore.
>>716169636Do you talk to your mother in that tone?
>>716169575Muffet already has cameo.
>>716169713Kris is not gonna like it.
>>716165849I have never played Undertale
and have no intention of playing DeltaRune before all the chapters are released
but I like learning about both games' lore, especially Gaster
>>716164468nothing, the build-up is refined and nuanced, the mark of good writing, now stop samefagging
>>716169636all this yapping because youre mad someone lewded the pixels
>>716164468Can someone explain what this image is? I've seen it in these threads and have no idea what it means/is from.
>>716169636Anon, the point of Undertale is to explore the nature of the player's relationship with the games they play. Killing enemies isn't shamed because the game thinks killing is bad, it's because the game is checking you on whether you're the type who feels bad playing an "evil route" in a game. It directly calls this out at the end of Genocide; if you actually didn't enjoy what you were doing, why did you bother? It's not required progression, and if you think the characters are "real" enough that you feel bad about "hurting" them, you shouldn't be doing that, because games are meant to be fun.
It's Spec Ops The Line's whole shtick about "you could have stopped when you wanted" except Undertale actually DOES give you ways to stop and do something else. On the Pacifist Route, you use the fact that you're playing a game to break reality in a way that results in the happiest outcome for the characters you've grown attached to. On Genocide you don't (or shouldn't) give a shit, and are pushing things to see how far they'll go and how hard characters will fight back.
The only thing Undertale tries to make you feel genuinely bad about is if you do these things and then whinge about how it wasn't fun or how you didn't like the characters reacting appropriately to being slaughtered. If you didn't have fun doing it, why did you bother doing it? You're playing a game with multiple routes, you could have down something else instead of picking the path you don't enjoy.
All i want is Dragon Ball in undertale/deltarune. Not as a reference or a joke. I want ACTUAL dragon ball. I need Goku falling in Mr. Ebott, i want the androids come to the festival, i want the Ginyu Force
>>716169257>You are given the choice to be a murderer but you get called a murderer if you actually take it.Hey, no one forced you to chose that option. You chose to kill them. Why? Because it was fun? That excuse doesn't fly on a genocide run, most monsters go down in one hit, and the only two challenging fights are deliberately unfair and designed to make you ragequit. Self-defence? That excuse goes flying out the window the moment Papyrus offers you mercy and you cut him down in cold blood. Because it's how you're supposed to play an RPG? That excuse goes flying out the window the moment it becomes clear that this isn't a conventional RPG. Or did you do it just to see what happens? Well, then you're officially as bad as Flowey, and on your head be it.
>>716169593Still not as pathetic as the TOBY WROTE ONLY ONE ENDING WITH A QUESTION MARK BACK IN 2018 YOUR CHOICES DON'T MATTER BRO GET THE MEMO fags
>>716170280*to choose that option
>>716169917yeah the lore is great. it being open ended makes it fun
>>716170305Yeah, but Susie said!
>>716169583>pffft, they're not talking to (You)!>Robert just really wanted you to think about the game's message with meta-game fuckery (or, again, more postmodernist drivel) and intentionally blur the line between the game and reality by messing with your save data>>716169717I accept your concession.
>>716169951I thought about all of this long before I knew one of the character's artists is a pedophile. That and everything else has just been a confirmation of my previous assumptions.
>>716170139>the point of Undertale is to explore the nature of the player's relationship with the games they playSo, in a way that people like Robert and his art-student fans would like to see it, the game really is "talking to you IRL."
>"evil route"Good thing you put it in quotes, because what Robert calls "evil," I call "playing a turn-based RPG."
how long has concessionfag been doing this gimmick now
>>716165224To be fair the So Sorry reference clearly isn't postive, the fact he's referencing it in a possible psyche ward/therapy room implies he views the whole thing as kind of traumatizing. Which makes sense when you remember how a clusterfuck his whole saga was.
>>716169561yeah well shut the fuck up and go kiss the deer already
>>716170305The question mark was only added in 2021 with Chapter's 2 release.
If you think about it, the game chastizes you more in the neutral runs than in genocide.
>Genocide UT
"nooo pls don't kill me" t. monster kid as i use his armless fuck body as an onahole before it turns to dust
"hehe xd if i stay in my shop i don't die" "who says i was going to let u hit me xddd" metafuckery (funny that Gerson was the smarter one at holding you back and survive)
>Neutral UT
"How dare you kill my brother, i will kill you i will strip the flesh off your bones" basically any ending you kill Papyrus that isn't genocide = Sans is going to get cathartic
"Haha hey look darling, i Mettaton get to be the king of underground!" As shit gets turned into North Korea
"Uhh we couldn't find alphys anywhere, are you sure she's ok?" Implied suicide after you turn Metatton into a 2006 xbox 360 that got the red ring of death
"Why haven't they sent any photos, or postal cards, or mails to us if they (the characters you kill except for Papyrus) went on a vacation?" This neutral ending is actually fucking messed up, Papyrus is living a sad deluded lie because Sans can't afford to see his big bro be legitimally sad, i feel for him
That said, the neutral endings feel more, natural than either genocide or pacifist. I feel like the true neutral ending where you go a pacifist with a single [self defense] kill is the absolute best ending in Undertale that can leave shit up for a direct sequel.
>>716170179If you want it so badly then you know what to do, anon! Don't let your dreams be dreams!
>>716170468>>Robert just really wanted you to think about the game's message with meta-game fuckery (or, again, more postmodernist drivel) and intentionally blur the line between the game and reality by messing with your save dataThis but unironically. Toby's meta-fuckery is always allegorical and metaphorical. It can be contained purely in-universe, but also can apply to you. He's a master at making things mean multiple things.
>>716170650Really tells you how people are retarded and WILL take things at face value, so Toby had to add something for the aspergers thinking this will actually just have a fixed ending like le epic halloween romhack.
>>716170659>(funny that Gerson was the smarter one at holding you back and survive)Gerson literally sells you items that help you kill Undyne. He's a cuck that tries to take a moral highground.
>>716170468>Good thing you put it in quotes, because what Robert calls "evil," I call "playing a turn-based RPG."Yeah, because that's the joke. The random generic monsters are being treated like actual characters with lives and feelings. That's the entire shtick of the game, so if you go out of your way to grind which you don't need to do in 80% of decent RPGs past the second year of the SNES then the game treats it as though there's a little freak going around and hunting down and slaughtering people, because that's what you're doing.
That doesn't mean Undertale is calling YOU evil for that. You're still a person sitting at a computer playing a game. You're an evil character in-universe, but Undertale does not make any attempt to call YOU out for being evil or weird unless you go out of your way to complete ALL of Genocide and then try and bitch out at the very last possible second, because why the fuck would you go through all that trouble if you weren't enjoying it?
Toby didn't make Genocide with the intent to have nobody play it. The two major bossfights in that route are clearing intended to be fun, but if you're not having fun, the game tells you to go play the other route, because games are supposed to be fun.
If you want to see an ACTUAL pretentious artsy-fartsy example of this, look no further than Toby's initial inspiration for the idea: MOON Remix RPG Adventure on the PS1 (recently rereleased on Switch/Steam). That game genuinely makes no attempt to comment on a player's relationship with games or how we play them, and it's what people like you THINK Undertale is; just a long spiel about how RPG players are losers and freaks and should go outside, with a really good soundtrack.
>>716169786How cool would it be if its value constantly went up as you play because it gathers your coins, but you could sell it later to gain it back
>>716170659Brave ones, foolish ones.
Both walk not the middle road.
why doesn't susie just get a BIG box, put it around the shelter, and then open a dark fountain
or just set up camp around the shelter? someones gotta come out
>>716171364There may be a network tunnels under Hometown with multiple exits like in New York
>>716171651Does that mean that the pipes in hometown speak yiddish?
>>716167005No, Muffet is the top
>>716171364Susie should just stand near bunker doors with a comically huge bug net
>>716171767The characters appear in Wingdings in the eyes of the uninitiated. But if you look through a Shadow Crystal...
>>716172163I wanted to make a joke about the underground jewish tunnels in nyc but you made it all esoteric.
>>716172250My intentions were the same all along.
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>>716172496Looks like Cerboa except lizard.
>>716172747>implying 'roba herself isn't hideous either
>>716172402>>716172496If she's ugly, then why do I want to date her?
Really makes you wonder what the prophecy entails if Ralsei genuinely thinks being nice could make a difference
>>716173094Said no one ever..
>>716173110Noelle is supposed to kill Kris.
Snowgrave route is about desensitizing her to murder.
Ralsei thinks that replacing her with Susie and making her nice will change the prophecy.
but what is gersons master plan
>>716173110It's about (you). Ralsei thinks convincing (you) to be nice will prevent it.
>>716173110It has to be Susie thinking she has to kill someone close to her, either "destroying The Cage" or "destroying her love." Ralsei was laser focused on getting Susie to be nicer and chapter 4 was loaded with lines remarking how nice she turned out to be, including right after she shattered the panel.
>>716167523When did omocat canceling happen? Because toby made a music video with them in 2022
>>716173361He's dead so he doesn't care. He just wants someone to write their own ending to his story instead of letting it die on the vine.
Just wondering. What was changed during the latest patch? Is the second Kris still hiding inside Dess' closet?
>>716157467 (OP)I LOVE HER AND I WANT TO SMOOCH HER AND I WANT HER TO HAVE HER LITTLE GIRL SPIDERS CRAL OVER MY COCK AND WEB MY URETHRA.
>>716173487krIIs was patched out a while ago
>>716157467 (OP)One of the most memorable songs in the game. Definitely not forgotten.
>>716173564RIP. I will miss the two niggas theory.
>>716173110The heroes are gonna have to kill each other. Kris and the Knight are threatening to start the Roaring because they think they can accomplish some other goal without actually ending the world, but they're wrong and won't be able to control what they've wrought. In order to actually save the world, the human must die and the girl has to pull the trigger. Ralsei thought if they were nice enough and convinced Kris to abandon the plan, then the ending would change and Kris would get to live.
what are the odds of these
>1. Asriel just appears at the credits of the game "Hey family I'm back!"
>2.Asriel appears in just one chapter, in Hometown and then leaves
>3.Asriel is a very important character about the mysteries of the game.
Wheres the guy with the mega? Or are we hiding it these days?
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>>716173701There is still two niggas
>>716173110Killing game between the heroes.
>>716173767I hope he appears to take Kris and Susie away from this wretched town.
>>716157467 (OP)Plagiarized content the game
>>716173875And don't forget me, Kris's eggs-best friend
>>716173767It's going to be the third. He's literally the hook of the game when you hook up.
>>716174078Kris always liked Dess more, dweeb
>>716173767>Asriel showing up at the end of chapter 5 only to find the remains of Flower King post-fountain
>>716157467 (OP)Why the fuck didn't the Top Baker give me more cake in chapter 4
>>716173767>>716174383Asriel is going to show up at exactly the wrong moment without knowing who Susie is, and think she's making life hell for his family and start going after her for it.
And in spite of his dorky interests he's not a physical pushover, he was a decorated athlete while Susie's toughness in the real world has mostly been for show to intimidate people.
>>716165849I love Noelle so much, but I sexualize her with feet and not hooves.
>>716173094Kris, please...
I really really want to be mean to Alphys because I hate her, but I think being nice to her is probably the only hope Kris has to pass her class
>>716174234I desperately hope he has his God of Hyperdeath appearance in the Dark World and joins the party as a black mage at least temporarily like Noelle did.
>>716174934Alphys is based now, she's the main Krusie supporter
>>716175152Imagine if you could give him the Thorn Ring on aborted snowgrave.
Suselle but it's Susie caving to her predator instincts and eat noelle like the little tasty fucking prey that she is.
>>716175857>How can I get people to stop deriding Undertale as a mediocre Earthbound knockoff?>I know... I'll make a hack that claims Earthbound is a mediocre Undertale knockoff!bravo
>>716175692That's actually kinda hot.
>>716175857What about 9/11?
>>716176105Everything ever.
>>7161761059/11 is part of the grand tapestry of Radiation's creation, yes.
>>716175857Even the loli porn of humans?
>>716175251>she's the main Krusie supporterI dont get where this meme comes from, literally all she did was pair them together because they were the last two without partners which was actually organized by gaster, but thats beside the point. Toriel, QC, and even Jockington would be more deserving of the title of #1 Krusie supporter
>>716175974Anon... you understand the linear nature of time, don't you?
patiently waiting for deltarune general to die so I can talk about my wife again
>>716175974what the fuck are you talking about
>>716176173TOBY IS TIME LOOPER THEORY
>>716176172Talk to her at the start of chapter 2.
>>716176173Indeed I do, that's why it's completely retarded, Anon-kun. Much like yourself
>>716176351>He doesn't knowAnon, please go check the release date on the Earthbound hack.
>>716176174Just talk about 'em here. Free world.
>>716176419No thanks, I have no need to play an inferior version of Earthbound (that would include Undertale), I still have my SNES and cartridge. Although it is outrageously yellowed at this point.
>>716173767>end of the game>asgore, toriel, kris and susie are all sitting at the dinner table>suddenly the door opens, a shadow with horns appearing in front of a ray of beaming light>asriel's about to say his only words in this game>cut to black
>>716176681Ah, so you're being retarded on purpose then.
Fair enough anon, continue shitting yourself and blowing spit bubbles because you're too dumb to realize that the Earthbound hack was made first and Undertale came later.
>>716176419Congratulations on engaging in pigeon chess.
>>716164468>weird route started in Ch2>Ch1 is small but still noticeable WHAT DOES IT MEAN
>>716160713that fucking sucks, she had the best theme in the series too
>>716176226Undertale is Toby's autobiography. Everything in that game literally happened. To him.
>>716176943king me biatch i have a uno reverse
>>716176172>Literally gives Krusie his Sports Blessing, nullifying catti's vile dyke sorcery in the processmy fuarking hero
>>7161737672 and 3 simultaneously
He'll be important but he won't show up until the last chapter. That said when he does appear it won't just be a lame one-line joke.
>>716177002IIRC, there's some minor dialogue change if you go straight to Noelle in first classroom scene. One of the options sounds snowgrave-like or something.
Just curious, is Weird Route just as fucked up in chapter 4 as it was in chapter 2?
>>716176940yeah no shit retard, it wasn't an argument being made in good fatih
>>716170118deltarune.com/chapter5/
It's from the ARG, don't remember exactly how you got there, but it was from /code/
Each number corresponds to a chapter, and the size of the number was supposed to represent how much the weird route changed in it. So, people assumed chapter 3 would be as impactful as 2, when actually it was just big because 3 was supposed to be where you learn of the weird route in the first place.
>>716164468Money and fame. We probably won't see Toby do anything unhinged ever again.
>>716177154It's even more fucked, and that's not even the main gala.
>>716177049If anything Deltarune is his autobiography
>>716177154oh anon don't be silly
>>716177197>So, people assumed chapter 3 would be as impactful as 2it was blacked out and said "Not applicable". But...
>>716165849I cheated my CH2 savefile to get the watch because I wanted to spook Noelle, but I had saved after she left the party.
I looked up how to get the CH3 egg.
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Why does kris hate us?
>>716177154Less prominent but what's there is more fucked up
Ok so how are you supposed to know about the existence of eggs and how to obtain them? Like organically in the game without seeing about it online?
>>716164468snow route made the vanilla game lame in comparison
then again, knight almost singlehandedly saved the garbage fire
>>716177002Nothing. Chapter 1 isn't applicable and invisible.
>>716177152It's just a ruder way to ask Noelle to pair up with you.
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>>716177154(YOU) deflower Noelle and impregnate her with a mini soul inside her
>>716177438you aren't
going back and forth between screen is soemthing no one would normally do
the biggest hint you get is ch3's egg room needing you to actually do something reasonable to reach it, with the forgotten man kind hinting at the locations of other the eggs based on the day of the week (which you have to figure out yourself)
>>716173471>cancelingdon't think she is cancelled since homolive and phase still do merch with her
>>716177551Yes, but it is out of character for Kris to say that, so we can assume it is (Me) doing it.
Muffet is a character i don't want to think about, there is a cute gardening spider in one of my plants, she eats plentiful flies and other pests and she's even a mom. And i really want to resist the urge to stroke my meat cannon until it fires and i bukkake a poor innocent spider just because of muffet,
>>716177352Carol had demon soul inside her at one point and warned Kris not to trust it.
only good character is [Spoiler] Berdly /spoiler
>>716177684I mean, is it really out of character for him to do that? Based on what Noelle said on chapter 2 about Kris' way of speaking, it doesn't seem that far off from his usual speech patterns.
>>716170468>Good thing you put it in quotes, because what Robert calls "evil," I call "playing a turn-based RPG."Ser Robert esquire the 3rd does not forbid you from playing the genocide route. if that is the route you enjoy then play it.
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>>716175251Why is she like this
>>716177639isn't chapter 2's egg even easier to find? since there's that one room with grafitti telling you exactly what to do and all that
>>716177827He was avoiding Noelle for years, he would not be so assertive. Instead it's something in the same vein as "Proceed" and "Noelle will ride with me".
>>716177874Damn, teacher, having perverted thoughts about my fellow classmates
Correction is needed
>>716172249was jevil just a meme character or did he actually have consequences to the plot?
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I have a difficult time coping with the fact that a fangame managed to make me care about its original the characters, but I guess thats appropriate since toby got a lot of his start with fangames too.
>>716168252What kind of rules? Was it some "everyone should be asking 'where's poochie?'" Nonsense?
>>716175692Get off 4chan Noelle
Authentic message from Toby himself, just for (you).
Do you accept?
>>716178376iirc the big one was that he's incorruptible, and the Specter Knight DLC ends with him getting corrupted by the Enchantress, fighting him, and then selling yourself to the Enchantress to free him
>>716178513He lacks kissable lips of Andrew Hussie, so no.
>>716169786>chapter 4>attempt to equip it on noelleAre people hacking noelle into chapter 4?
>>716178276For (Me) or for Kris?
>>716178594All items have use description for Noelle in files, so it's either a red herring or she will return to the party at some point. Also some of them are written with assumption that Kris is in the party with her.
>>716173228and yet the blue duck is still alive
she hasn't kill anyone yet, she can only pwn people in minecraft
>>716165715>62 million USDDamn, that's impressive for a country I literally didn't know existed before today
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What is her problem
>>716178376I can't really remember the full details but I know one of them was "Reize does not have any family" which is pretty much ignored by giving him a father.
So given all the info about them is saved up, how do you think the Gifts imparted upon our beloved sweet little baby biscuits will affect their return?
>>716178764She likes when people abuse her
>>716178787I gave him voice and made him like sweet food.
>>716178513>SLURPza Spamton (slurpton? spamslurp?)Funny
>>716178868When does she say this?
>>716177619>mini soulIt's just blood according to the sprite.
>retards literally can't enjoy a story unless they self insert
i'm so tired of vessel fags
>>716178945When you attempt to equip the Ragger onto her.
>>716178960the story literally already has us self inserted into it. I'd be ok never controlling my vessel but that nigga didn't deserve to get discarded I'm gonna fucking fight whoever did this.
>>716178960I want to self insert INTO the Vessel.
>>716164468Should've implied that Berdly died and kept the rose symbolism in. Toby is being way too fucking timid about what is supposed to be a darker path. It has gotten milktoast in terms of edge and horror. The serious tone has been sanded down by the censorship, man.
>>716179120...does wanting to sex your creation count as incest?
>>716179140>Should've implied that Berdly died and kept the rose symbolism in.Berdley is probably permanently comatose and the rose symbolism is still there, but now with far more visceral thorn imagery.
I swear to God you faggots don't even pay attention to the game
the boy (female)
search (you)r heart, you know it to be true
>>716178960Given the Gift (You) bestow upon the Vessel, it's very heavily implied the little nigga will have some form of independent personality by the time you find him.
>>716179303>No Vessel and Kris(F) art
>>716179140I can live with the glass shattering because that's also powerful imagery. But that BIRD FUCK better be DEAD and DUST by Chapter 6, Toby, you mutt. The spell said "Fatal" but from where I'm standing the only dead guy I see is Gerson.
>>716178954it floats like a small soul. So that's incorrect.
>>716179410Imagine if the most important choice was actually what blood type you gave him
>>716179524If C was an old name for O, then what the fuck does D represent?
>>716179279>>716179493Well, Snowgrave said: "Fatal".
So why it had better be fucking fatal.
>>716179279>Berdley is probably permanently comatoseKris (who knows much more than we do) says he'll be okay. We are aware that monsters turn into dust when they die now, so that cope doesn't work anymore.
>the rose symbolism is still there, but now with far more visceral thorn imagery.>"NO YOU SEE, (whatever something got censored to) IS BETTER BECAUSE-"I do NOT give a shit. Toby's original idea in his head is the one I cared about. Kill yourself.
>>716179454people got fooled by kris' goblin tomboy personality and think that she's a boy
even the most aggressive non binary shitters still think of kris as male
but us knowers are aware of kris' devious ruse and hope that she can grow past her identity problems
>>716179619Because what happens in the Dark World doesn't actually PHYSICALLY affect you, dumbass. Food doesn't actually sate you, Ralsei says as much. Dying in the Dark World doesn't physically kill Berdley, but turns him into a braindead vegetable, which is just as bad if not straight up worse.
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>>716179279>Berdley is probably permanently comatoseim gonna go with kris on this one
>>716179189Don't sell it on me.
>>716179752im leaning towards, if you continue snowgrave then berdly is kaput and if you abandon it there berdly will pull through.
>>716179645>Kris (who knows much more than we do) says he'll be okay.He goes to Noelle to comfort her when he says this. For all we know he's coping hard and just trying to help her feel better.
I just wanna say that when I saw the thread in the catalog it had 88 images
Fitting
>>716179645we actually don't know that monsters turn into dust when they die, only that they are when buried
it might seem small, but i don't think it is
remember, although they're similar, deltarune isn't undertale and things work differently despite seeming the same
>>716179645>We are aware that monsters turn into dust when they die now, so that cope doesn't work anymore.They also canonically fall into a coma before dying so
>>716157467 (OP)>forgottenYa sure anon.
>>716179454There's more FemVessels X Kris than the contrary, kek.
>>716179512It doesn't float, it only appears to because it's the only thing on-screen.
>>716178885Mine has a Mind and likes salty stuff. Potatoes especially.
>>716179189Given (You) are the SOUL and not the Vessel, I would say yes. If nothing else, it's definitely not masturbation.
>>716179524Honestly I expect some kind of blood transfusion puzzle with a different solution based on the blood type.
>>716179735Well, if Berdly does make some surprise appearance, that'll be the moment, this game goes into the bin, that's all I'll about this. Also, when Kris is missing HP in the Dark World, he misses proportional HP in the Light World and vice versa.
>>716178960From what I've seen, it's more that vesselbros are angry their current vessel is a double agent and a disobedient little shit
>>716179918>Also, when Kris is missing HP in the Dark World, he misses proportional HP in the Light World and vice versa.No, he doesn't. When Kris is hurt in the Light World, it's because he beat (You) up.
>>716179921nah personally kris can do his own thing. little rascal has some kind of devious scheme going on sure whatever. I just dont want the vessel to be discarded forever, beyond that im here for the ride.
>>716179856>There's more FemVessels X Kris than the contrary, kek.Post some plz
>>716179921I wouldn't mind if he was just a disobedient bastard. Teenagers are stupid and impulsive, so it is expected for him to act out.
The issue is that he's working behind Susie's back.
As someone who likes the gameplay and is easy to please story-wise I think the only way I'll be pissed at Deltarune's ending is, if the Light World turns out to be a simulation or some shit. And no one is real or whatever, or god forbid, we go back to Undertale somehow. God please no Toby.
>>716179596That one lady that has a whole new blood type
>>716179752Kris is just trying to make Noelle feel better and prevent her from having a meltdown, at least for as long as (You) and the Knight are in play.
...That BETTER be the case, Toby. You rat fuck. I pulled the trigger on his feathery ass and I want results. I don't even have any real hate for Berdly, really, but I want to confirm my kill. I want Noelle to know it, too.
You guys do remember that everyone theorized Berdly was fallen down after Snowgrave, right?
Berdly being comatose in Chapter 4 basically confirms that
I doubt he's gonna come back if you iced him
>>716179856I'm not blind Anon, it does the same floating animation the Soul does. It's not blood, maybe a symbol of control, but it's still a representation of germination, reproduction. Stop trying to wave it off. Toby knew what he was doing and is only squeamish because people like you won't stop bitching about everything that is slightly edgy. Fucking kill-joy.
>>716180209I hope Berdley regains consciousness so he's aware when we rip out his life support
>>716179619it actually meant Fat Al
berdly is gonna come back as fat albert
you may laugh at me now but we'll see who's laughing when we hear "HEY HEY HEY!" in chapter 5
>>716180000Yeah and the HP lose is reflected when he returns to the Dark World in Castle Town.
>>716165849I will kill everyone in Deltarune for my Vessel.
I can't wait to force Noelle to kill Rudy and Dess
>>716179801>For all we know he's coping hard and just trying to help her feel better.So Kris on a weird route
>immediately goes to take off noelle's thorn ring>tells her hes sorry to undo what we did to her yesterday>tells her "DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, SAY THIS IN FRONT OF ME" because (You) might possibly hearBut Kris jeopardizes ALL OF THIS, letting us finding out and possibly implicates himself to the town for being the only one to somehow know Berdly is hurt (noelle and susie were fine with leaving him to "sleep", and kris came back at NIGHT to bring him)
...For someone that he KNOWS is already dead?
That doesn't make sense, unless Kris knows he can get better in the first place.
>>716180058Here's some gooner one.
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=13919759&tags=vessel_%28deltarune%29+
>>716165849I enjoyed the weird route.
>>716180327... I am not the one who labeled the sprite as blood. Blame Toby. We will see who's right next year.
>>716165849Even after all these years, I still want fuck Asriel.
what if souls are made of blood
>>716180625Wouldn't that hurt? To be made of blood?
>>716180450>teenager panicking does stupid bullshit while trying to damage controlYes? The fact that he let Noelle say as much as he did before dragging her out of the room (or failing to, if you've already gotten to him) should be proof enough that he's not thinking straight. Kris on the Weird Route is absolutely losing his fucking marbles trying to mitigate the harm (You) cause. He's probably hoping there's some way to un-kill Berdley in the Dark World because he's clearly not waking up through any natural means in the Light World, but him telling Noelle "Berdley is going to be okay" is clearly just an attempt to comfort her. Same as him telling her "It was all a prank" when it obviously wasn't.
>>716165849I come here for the pics
>>716180552He's covering his ass and yeah, we will. If I'm wrong, then God damn is this weird route lame. At least in the Genocide route in UT, you did impactful actions.
>>716165849Mad Mew Mew is my fave but I've never actually played her fight.
>>716180132Simulation/it was all a dream died the moment Gerson said doubt and irony poisons stories.
And on the very unlikely chance Undertale is involved in any meaningful capacity, its presence will not invalidate the existence of Deltarune's world, just as Deltarune's world does not invalidate the existence of Undertale's.
The most extensive the connection could get is Sans and Papyrus being confirmed as travelling to Undertale's world and Frisk and Suzy being a resurrected Kris and Susie as the explanation for Clam Girls "In life's grand scheme, she might be why you came here in the first place..." line (which at least more likely in my opinion it's just Toby saying some Undertale players are there because they played Deltarune)
>>716179752>>716180183Kris is obviously lying to Noelle. He doesn't know shit, and he can't stop shit unless he gets serious.
All he has to do is abandon his plan, and lock us up. And yet, he refuses to do that, to the detriment of everyone.
Besides, you can choose not to help Berdly by not interacting with the heater thingy. Berdly is (not) going to get better.
>>716180450To be fair, being in denial makes you do really stupid shit in general.
>>716177324Pretty much everyone looked up how to get most eggs.
>>716180625I read "what if rouxls are made of blood" I need to go to bed
>>716180683I really like the idea that sans in deltarune paid attention to "all the wrong things" and thats why he and papyrus ended up in undertale and why he became much more observant, but I dont expect or hope for any other direct connections honestly.
>>716180450He doesn't know. The Weird Route is clearly off-script from whatever he's planning. But he's not going to say to Noelle, who got mindbroken that very day, that Berdly might not make it and it's her fault. Kris probably wants to believe that Berdly just needs rest, but he has no idea if getting better is even an option for the bird.
>>716180132I'd also be pretty pissed off if the Knight was Carol/Rudy and Dess was just dead all along and the overarching message of the plot was "you have to le move on stop trying to bring her back"
The mysteriously lost girl just being dead with no supernatural elements at play in her death would be the lamest fucking way to resolve the plot ever.
>>716180656It would be extremely painful
>deltarune threads have been invaded by retards that want weird route to be an exact thematic and mechanical retread of genocide's hamhanded LOL KILL EM ALL shtick
Lord, grand me strength in the coming months, I just have to WAIT
>>716180908>and the overarching message of the plot was "you have to le move on stop trying to bring her back"wouldn't even be the first time toby used that plot
>>716160713>>716165493the artist made the despicable act of...
*checks notes*
...drawing nude art of one of his underage characters in a non-sexual way.
>>716180893I think he knows a lot of things, and I think he knows that its probably possible to recover. I dont think its guaranteed but i'm of the thought that if you abandon snowgrave in chapter 4 then berghly will eventually get better.
>>716180917(You)'re a big guy.
>>716181060Bros, I'm so tired of waiting.
>>716180675sex with anime dolls!
>>716165849I think i'm in love with Noelle
>>716181060Would you say those are better or worse than the retards who think Deltarune's gonna be "PACIFIST BAD SNOWGRAVE GOOD"?
>>716181241Worse, but not by much.
The true route is absolutely gonna require information from both routes, if not a playthrough of both, though.
>>716181087If Iced Brugby does pull through, abandoned Weird or not, I'm gonna call Toby a coward. But I guess we'll just have to WAIT and see.
>>716181060Toby has already mentioned that the main leitmotif of the weird route is freedom. Whose freedom and from whom—he didn’t specify. But I think it’s pretty obvious and clear to everyone. He’s not some prose genius who hides the truth in a layer of lies, buried in a sea of truth, submerged in an ocean of lies. Those are too complex schemes for him, and it’s obvious that the weird route is about the conflict between you, the player, and the characters in your mutual lack of freedom.
As a player, you want the freedom to do all sorts of nonsense, while the characters want freedom from your tyranny. This is a path where you become the main antagonist for them, and they become yours. On this path, you’ll gather the best equipment in the game and unlock the strongest skills, like a typical munchkin, but it’ll backfire in your face at the end when the characters rise against you and defeat you using the very power you gave them, not expecting they could break free from your control.
This route is about your rapid rise and the inevitable downfall of evil. It’s an evolution of the pacifist route ideas from Undertale, where the core message is that you should let the characters live their lives. That you should respect their needs, desires, and thoughts. That you shouldn’t turn into a tyrant just because you can.
Recall Flowey’s dialogue after the true pacifist run—well, the weird route is a development of those ideas. It’s about how your evil in the game isn’t something Toby approves of.
>>716181409This is pasta, right? God I hope it's pasta.
>>716181403Fun fact: The body Mad Dummy Ghost is possessing is physically female (as female as an anime doll can get, anyway) so when you say Mad Mew Mew isn't female, you're actually saying gender is defined by your mind/soul and not your body
>>716181060>that want weird route to be an exact thematic and mechanical retread of genocide's hamhanded LOL KILL EM ALL shtickyou're outing yourself as a retard because everyone was praising weird route and it's writing when we saw it in chapter 2
having weird route so frontloaded, only for it to not exist in chapter 3 and be minimal in chapter 4 quite literally KILLED THE HYPE
>but bro it was impossible to have there!!toby knew the direction it was going in, and knows the overall purpose of the weird route
it is set up in a way where it wouldve never have been like chapter 2 again yes, but it is toby's fault if people feel it was a letdown after almost 4 years of hype
>>716180683>Frisk and Suzy being a resurrected Kris and Susie as the explanation for Clam Girls "In life's grand scheme, she might be why you came here in the first place..." lineI really hope this isn't the case. I want Frisk to be her own character, not some Stone Ocean shit.
>>716181557Sans is emporio
I DON'T CARE ABOUT WEIRD ROUTE
MMM RAEP YUMMY
GO TO E621
>>716157467 (OP)>2015 was 20 years agohow time flies
memes aside, i was a teen when i played undertale, now my kids are 3 and 4, and im almost 30
i legit cant wrap my head around it
Normal route will fulfill the prophecy in a way that's unfulfilling, encouraging the player to go back and break the prophecy.
Weird route will break the prophecy in a way that's even worse for the characters in-universe than fulfilling the prophecy.
True ending will break the prophecy in a way that gives everyone a happy ending, except for one but not both of Dess and Ralsei.
Anyone expecting anything else is just setting themselves up for disappointment and needs to manage themselves before they blame Toby for not including shit he was never going to add.
>>716181403Yes she's a man....-made fuckdoll.
>>716181595You will never unrape the doe, Toby. But that's besides the point.
>>716181519>only for it to not exist in chapter 33 is where you're supposed to learn about Weird Route, and Sword Route clearly changes SOMETHING regardless.
>and be minimal in chapter 4 It's exactly as present as it needs to be in Chapter 4. You don't need every chapter to give you a fucking FOUR LEFT prompt for the route to be present, faggot.
>>716181307>>716181241Did you even listen to what Toby told you? The game will have one ending, so nothing matters.
>>716181403The ghost is female, stop assuming her gender.
>>716181498Take a guess
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/Toby%20has%20already%20mentioned%20that%20the%20main%20leitmotif%20of%20the%20weird%20route%20is%20freedom./
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>>716181501mad mew mew will forever be the tranny coded character, chud
Do you think we gonna get some cool new tidbits of lore during the 10th anniversary?
>>716181678the regular and weird routes will end prematurely and wont reach chapter 7
>>716173767Option 2 actually. If the other UT characters are anything to go by
>>716181678>The game will have one ending, so nothing matters.Yeah, and those routes won't lead to an ending.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXeftLB9UTo
At that late hour, with the bells ringing out their justice, Susie will choose eternity. The clock will turn back, and the shadows will continue to grow darker.
I think people who only play the games for the edgefag routes just need to be more honest about it
>>716181409>Toby has already mentioned that the main leitmotif of the weird route is freedom.fucking where.
>>716181761UT Hard Mode will finally be finished, surely.
>>716181761Spamton and Tenna's divorce papers
>>716181761hopefully there will be a feature on tenna's telethon
>>716181778The normal route not being able to play Chapter 7 would be completely retarded
Imagine being a casual fan who just played Deltarune and didn't do all the egg snowrape bullshit or whatever and eagerly installing the Chapter 7 update, just to find out OOPS you did it wrong and have to replay the entire game to play the new content
Weird will be the only route that ends prematurely
>>716181731Thank god. Though seeing it posted only a few times is worrying, makes me think the retard behind it is still hanging around and trying to get more engagement. I mean seriously, "the theme of Undertale is how you should respect NPC rights"? Christ.
>>716181501>from Dio parody to female anime dollAnon, I think that shit is already as blatant as it gets.
>>716181501He was cuter as a dummy, so I choose to consider Mad Mew Mew noncanon.
>>716181960the only I can see regular route having an "ending" at all is if it is empty and unsatisfying and a lot of questions are left open, making you want to replay the game and find out more secrets
>>716181673>3 is where you're supposed to learn about Weird Routethis is a game where most of the players are from UT, and play as soon as a chapter releases
sac'ing an entire chapter because "YOOO WHAT IF THERES A GUY WHO PLAYS THIS IN 10 YEARS AND LIVES IN A RURAL AREA" is not an argument retard
>It's exactly as present as it needs to be in Chapter 4it is 5 minutes long, it is a letdown that killed the hype and it even got censored somehow. take toby's ballsack out of your mouth before speaking
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>>716182119Wanting Toby to change the story based on the time it takes the chapters to be made is the exact kind of retarded faggotry that ruined Homestuck and I'm glad he's not catering to you retards beyond making fun of you with the Mike fight.
>>716182107this is sick but the crescent moon looking like an eye makes me think of cuptains lmao
>>716182119the original intent of toby was still to release the entire game in one go, he just was unable to which is why everything is broken up now
I really wish he hadn't included the weird route at all though and only patched it in when the final update hit
>>716181168Piece by piece
>>716165849I believe suselle is canon because Toby is fucking yurifag and other shit is just pure cope+wishful thinking
>>716182296what did they even do
>>716182119>>716182223Also, Chapter 2 was supposed to be released with the rest of the game.
Presumably, the way he wrote the weird route and how to discover it wasn't written with the assumption you'd have 4 years to dick around in Chapter 2 and try out every secret you can squeeze out of the game, because you're supposed to immediately move onto Chapter 3.
>>716182223you being a homestuckfag is why the hype in your heart is gone to begin with, but for normal people alot were looking forward to the the actual game along with the weird route
No Undertale Hard Mode
No Saving Asriel
No Refunds
:)
>>716182296Is this about the weird route rose or steven pooniverse rose or homosuck rose
I actually can't tell what you're talking about
>>716182192I wish Kris didn't hate us, bros
So are we not allowed to like the Weird Route now?
>>716181761Hopefully we get at least more alarm clock dialogue.
>>716182340>he doesn't know
>>716182460we always hated it
>>716182460Only newfags werent here for the anon finding the weird route in-thread, anyone pretending we werent looking forward to what Toby had in store for us next chapters is simply a redditor.
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You are going with Noelle on the festival tomorrow, right anon?
>>716182545I personally won't if Toby keeps being a pussy about it and censoring shit.
>>716182460We are, we're just not allowed to pretend it's shit because the whole thing isn't on the level of chapter 2's.
>>716182558I remember a lot of people being disappointed and yelling noelle was stealing susie away from kris before the weird route was discovered
Who the fuck is saying you're not allowed to like the weird route? I can't see anyone implying that here.
>>716182564No. She deserves to be happy
>>716182604look kris you're being really cool AND edgy right now but I really do just want to hang out and go on dark world shenanigans
>>716182774go go gadget bench extender
>play an obviously neutered version of an old ARPG
>find copious evidence and teases about weird shit going on behind the scenes and places you aren't supposed to go to
>weird little freako that wants you to have fun provides you with it if you play well enough
>there's actually some quality action Zeldaing in here
For a game-within-a-game thing I thought the Sword route and how it's framed was one of the best things the game's had so far, I'm surprised so many people hate it.
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>>716182545>NO WE ACTUALLY ALWAYS HATED SNOWGRAVE, NOBODY ACTUALLY CARED AND ONLY A 5 MINUTE SEQUENCE IS A GOOD THING!KILL yourself newfaggot.
Reminder that, despite chapter 3 & 4 JUST coming out, all we could talk about was the 5 minute weird route. Toby panicked and literally patched in a placeholder just to get the rose out before he could put something else.
>>716160713Was this before or after Muffet was introduced in UT?
>>716182895I actually really like replaying Chapter 3 in general and I don't get why it's shat on so much
>>716182452Kris is just afraid, afraid of losing what he thinks is his only chance to fix things.
And scared people lash out.
We'll get through to him, bro.
>>716182604i think it would be more kino if kris' actual soul isn't a red one
i've heard people say cyan, which is patience, and that seems to check out with kris' tolerance to all the bullshit that's happening around him
the weapons associated with it in undertale also check out with kris, being a (toy) knife and a ribbon
>>716182949for me its because I wanted more regular DR gameplay instead of zelda-lite
>>716168863Sans explicitly tells you during the genocide route that he thinks you don't do the things you do out of any commitment to good or evil, but just because you can, which makes you feel compelled to do them. Which is accurate. I don't think anybody is playing Undertale's genocide route because their moral compass leads them to making the corresponding choices.
>>716182897the confusion on why people are disappointed actually makes a ton of sense if they're just some random newfag that played way after the fact actually
if you werent there for that thread, then you wouldnt get it
>>716182558Wasn't "anon finding the weird route in-thread" just a repost from reddit/discord
>>716182895SWORD is kino.
https://youtu.be/KAtudLu42vA
>>716168863>Explain Undertale's plot, then, where killing fictional characters gets you chastised and effectively called an evil person.sans literally spells it out for you retard
What other games change the story and tone significantly if you do evil or bad actions? I'm looking for recommendations
>>716182223Did people take this post as anti-Weird Route somehow?
>>716183047dataminers brought it up but nobody thought it was real (there was no footage on discord either), that anon was the pioneer
>>716182895People are tastelets.
We will shed a tear for the GOAT who let us experience SWORDkino
>>716183001wasn't a yes or no question
>>716183115look up games with morality systems, though if you want actual change in the gameplay, you'll need to find indies, because AAA won't waste time making 2 separated storylines in their games and at most you'll get some different dialogue here and there
I guess mass effect changes a bit
>>716183189It was me, Dio
>>716183165thanks for confirming the type of faggot i suspected you were
Why isn't Woshua in Deltarune, I want a janny to beat up
>>716183047Yes and no. Dataminers were already posting about it in the thread but the actual concrete proof (besides the frozen chicken sprite) indeed came from a random discord server.
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>>716183225>autosage when we're almost at bump limitvideo games, fucking VIDEO games
>>716181409>Toby has already mentioned that the main leitmotif of the weird route is freedomToby has never even directly mentioned the weird route.
>>716183225yep
you know what that means
lets all show janny who's boss around these parts
I LOVE TV
>>716182985You get more DR gameplay anyways, all the time, and the game keeps throwing out there gameplay shifts anyways, and that one was very fleshed out, and it leads to more "regular DR gameplay", it always will. I just really appreciate all the work that was put into the framing.
>>716183068I love love love this track. The authetntic-sounding music is such nice icing for these sections. You can tell Toby loves the games he's aping for these bootleg retro gameplay shifts, this and the Punch Out theme (altough more for sounding like Power Rangers) are amazing, minus the DR leitmotifs, they could fit perfectly in a serious game of their genres.
>past 3 threads have autosaged the moment anti-weird route fags get btfo'd
NOTICING
ILOVETV
>>716178513Fuck you, Tobithert! I'm not letting you put your jigaboo lips on me!
>>716183351HAHA!! I LOVE WATCHING TV!!
>>716183150Man, what the fruck happened to Ramb? Did 8 bit Homunculus Kris kill him?
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CADOOES AND CADETTES
SAY "ILOVETV" TO GET THE JANNY'S PAY DEDUCTED
I LOVE TV
>>716183351Total Tenna love.
There's a lot of "quotable moments" in Undertale and Deltarune, but "I LOVE TV" takes the cake for being easily the most ham-fisted version of it. I hate TV. Fuck you.
>>716183464>? Did 8 bit Homunculus Kris kill him?he disappears before we even finish the fight if we die, BUT the "smile" from the vending machine also disappears around that time
he got BEFRIENDED
>>716183464If you lose to the Mantle you can leave the room and see he's already gone.
>>716181778A bad ending is still a different ending
>>716183351I LOVE TV!!!!!
>>716183354but I play DR because I want DR, not zelda
I am quite fond of television.
The weird route appeals to me more than the regular one, at least because it’s more unique. The couch scene is a rare moment of breaking the fourth wall from the player’s perspective, something you don’t often see in games, where it’s usually the other way around.
It’s an interesting concept because, for game characters, we are a genuine chthonic horror, but from our point of view, nothing has changed—what’s incomprehensible and extraordinary for them has been standard game mechanics for us from the very first minute. This shift in perspective is quite intriguing.
Unfortunately, the regular route doesn’t have this yet. I really hope that later on, the regular route will also explore ideas of closer interaction between the player and game characters, and it won’t just be a feature exclusive to the weird route.
>>716183573it won't end though, it will do a timeloop
see
>>716181827
>>716183513total krusie love
FUN FACT FOLKS EVERY TIME YOU SAY "I LOVE TV", YOUR LOCAL JANNY'S HAIRLINE RECEDES BY 3 FOLLICULES HAHA I LOVE TV
>>716183551Well, I guess we know where that 1-star review came from! Hey, if there aren't some critics, did anyone really watch the show?
Wasn't there an episode of Rocko's Modern Life where they go inside their TV and it was like a snow land inside
Could Toby have been referencing that with the last part
>>716183615Well, these gameplay swerves are "DR". Big part of the game's charm is, it keeps throwing wild, very varied gameplay concepts at you, no two battles are the same. It's part of the game.
>>716164468The genocide route was a slow burn, minimal but impactful differences at the Ruins (and that was all the demo showed), only going all in at the Undyne battle and tying up with Sans and Chara.
The weird route was completely absent in chapter 1, escalated very fast at chapter 2 and the ended with fucking Spamton NEO.
Then, almost 4 years later, you get sword route explicitly telling you what to do (to a degree UT never did), minimal weird route changes in Chapter 3, a genuinely impactful light world section (but it's just a cutscene), and a Chapter 4 with minimal changes, even if one of them was very good.
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>>716183819>eggman is a footfag because a bibiliox is what gets you the egg where you actually talk to him
>>716183842why is 3 afraid of 5 cause three four five uhuasdgdsb
>>716183928shit will go down in 5, with asgore and maybe the entire dess case being revealed, and susie likely being afraid of the prophecy so she won't enjoy the festival at all
>>716183819Wait, doesn't this quote imply that there's a book about human and monster souls in the librarby just like in Undertale?
I LOVE T-
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wait...
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MAN...
this thread STINKS...
>>716184020>(It's Book 1 about SOULS. Read it?)>Implying there's a Book 2Probably.
>>716183351I really love TV.
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AIIEEEEE JANNYTRANNY BROS
>>716184140book 2 will be in chapter 6
ITS LIKE
WE WERE NEVER AUTOSAGED
AT ALL
Theres only one definitive ending. But plenty of fake out endings im guessing. My guess is that you'll finish the game and somehow it'll continue/loop back to chapter one, and it'll be different each time. Thats why the "weird route" is weird, because it's unlike the usual time loop.
>>716184150I need more bisexual sandwich porn in my life.
Postal Demon and Chara are functionally the same character within the contexts of their games narratives.
>>716184221My FUARKING HERO
Jannies look at this thread full of discussion and just handwave it as avatarfagging, shipfaggotry and porn dumping.
>>716184184That striped bird motherfucker absolutely knows there's some important shit in there
>>716184194I'm soo glad I saw this before it was censored.
>>716184240Chara is hotter, though.
>>716184248the boy (female)
>>716184308>"I love TV" spam is goodok
>>716184248https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEYCGJYwvhM
Another "Dark Knight" Appears.
I'm watching a game show with my father. I hope my dark world TV is happy
>>716184371The ILOVETV spam is to assert dominance on the janny and bring the thread to a natural bump limit post count when he autosages it early.
>>716184371You know damn well the I LOVE TV spam doesn't start before the thread gets autosaged.
>>716184371Janny brought in on himself by going on a holocaust on deltarune threads DAY ONE. And yes "I LOVE TV!!!" posting is based in a myriad of ways.
>>716184354But what if...they're the same person?
>>716184308Way less of a cesspool of catchphrases and AI porn than any AAA shit thread but whatever.
>>716184042Too hard hitting?
Here have this instead.
>>716184371notice how it stopped once the thread hit the intended bump limit
>>716184403slightly superior version, imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Til2oZQmo50
>>716184490That looks better.
Which character has the fattest ass? Why is it Tenna?
>>716184194censored without a patch note
toby is a pussy
>>716184371Suck my cock janny
>>716184618I always love the chad, male Kris pics.
>>716184371dilate you disgusting faggot
>>716184565and just for funsies and memories
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21RFBPoOTug
>>716184641He certainly has become one, yes. He should just cut his balls off and transition already of slightly edgy shit bothers him this much now.
>>716181060>genocide's hamhanded LOL KILL EM ALL shtickThe message of Undertale's genocide route is that consistently evil choices in games featuring morality systems have fuck all to do with player's actual morality, and are simply solely engaged with as a means of exploring everything a game has to offer, even if it requires callousness with respect to the actual actions taken in game and what weight it would realistically carry. I don't think it was hamhanded at all. The taken actions were appropriately brutal to communicate those points. It wasn't overly gratuitous. The game doesn't let you kill the monster kid, it features no situation where you kill an innocent defenseless person begging you for mercy. You don't torture anybody to death. You don't engage in sexual violence. It plays with a lot of subtle elements to make you feel the weight of your actions, like the oppressive minimalist music, quick resolutions of almost all fights, the skipping of basically the entire game. But what I will agree with you on is that there's zero point in including a "genocide" route in Deltarune, since the one in Undertale was such a definitive statement on evil routes in games in general. There would be no greater point in including something like that again. Then it would be just gratuitous with no greater meaning behind it.
>>716184721FFIV and FFVI were such fucking fever dreams.
>>716184371Yes. Cope, trannitor.
>>716184536I love oppai but Muffet should be slim
the yellow threads are a little more civil but this still wasn't a bad thread by this boards standards
>>716184824>it features no situation where you kill an innocent defenseless person begging you for mercy.Papyrus?
>>716184862I think V takes the cake in sheer weirdness.
Can someone post the ralsei face before the thread ends? You know the one.
>>716185036i like the wolf guy that died cause he got pushed into a room
>>716184721Still wild that the guy who made this video got to make a whole ass rearrange of it for FFXIV.
>>716184958He wasn't begging you for mercy. He just said that he believed there's good in you, and that he still did so even after you struck him.
>>716185260Imagine if petrified Darkners can still hear
>>716184958I mean. Papyrus begs you to reconsider, but not out of fear for his llife. He just wants you to do better, because he knows you can.
>>716185130i duno *rubs my suspiciously susie shaped belly
>>716185260I fucking hate Pippins so much.
>>716185407I liked the green schizo
>>716185428>get well SWOON
>>716185443That guy is also a dick but at least he's funny.
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