Thread 716227196

KWAB

>>716227196 (OP)
He stood between VersChad and his harem. He had to go.

>>716227980
Literally the reason

>>716227196 (OP)
not real who cares

>>716227196 (OP)
>dies like a bitch to Renoir and immediately gets replaced by a cooler, sexier, more charismatic, more powerful man

I actually feel bad for Gustave

>>716227196 (OP)
>was supposedly the MC in trailer
>turns out he is just a foil to some random hobo and he IS the MC
I seriously was expecting gustave can be revived and playable at some point all till the end

>>716227196 (OP)
Verso feared this man

>>716227196 (OP)
Alicia didnt seem to care about him at all once she regained her memories. I doubt he would have had that much of an impact. The only reason he is remembered is solely due to an untimely death. If he lived he would have been sidelined along with Lune and Sciel

>>716230509
>Alicia didnt seem to care about him at all once she regained her memories.
She did what she did at the Reacher the way she did because of Gustav.

>>716230509
>he would have been sidelined along with Lune and Sciel
I wonder how these two whores didn't instantly have an existential crisis upon learning they're nothing more than magic ink in a canvas.

>>716227196 (OP)
>dies
>takes the quality of the game with him
based king

Verso thought he'd be a wrench in his plans, but wouldn't he actually choose the same thing for Maelle?

>>716231842
There's not really a lot of point speculating. By the end, Alicia isn't Maelle and what we saw of Gustave established him as a complex character, it's unknowable how he'd have reacted to the revelations.

>>716229580
>a cooler, sexier, more charismatic, more powerful man
>t. verso

Rela reason he was killed is because Charlie Cox was expensive to hire

>>716232093
I can't comment on sexier, but Verso was cooler and canonically more powerful/more charismatic

>>716231842
The future of Lumiere is more important than any individual life.

You fucks told me the game was woke because the two adult chick's were lesbians but one of them has a husband and neither ever showed romance attraction to one another.

>>716227196 (OP)
Kissing white attractive boys ?
(Sorry I genuinely don't know what this means)

>>716232412
>sacrifices himself and the critically important lumina converter to try and save an individual life he really cares about

>>716232478
Cumbrains project their fantasies onto everything.

>>716227196 (OP)
>did all his VA work in one morning before catching a flight because his agent told him to
>didn't know what the game was about
>never played it
>Disney cockblocked him from doing media tours
>forgot about this throwaway VA performance
>very confused when fans started looking for him on Daredevil sets
>on game journo articles he basically said that he never plays games and he's just happy gamers liked his character
>eventually said he's buying a PS5 to play it
what a guy

Gustave
>kind
>optimistic
>intelligent
>has a genuine affection for Maelle
Verso
>liar
>gaslighter
>murderer
>only likes Maelle because he's painted that way

>>716232720
Gustave
>simp
>spineless
>short-lived
>has a genuine desire to kill himself at his first hardship
Verso
>sex-haver
>large-penis-haver
>immortal
>only doesn't succeed in his master plan if (You) identify more with a teenage girl than a man of conviction

>>716232596
Fair enough. He wouldn't have done it if Lune had been there to bully him into putting the mission first though.AK0TN

So what WAS the lumina converter? Did it exist as, like, a physical device? Was it Gustave’s arm? Didn’t they bury that? What is it about the converter that enabled the party to fight Renoir later? He was effectively invincible when Gustave encountered at the end of Act 1. when did they get their “power-up”?

Anybody here played the Plague Tale games?

Been thinking of trying them out because they're story heavy AA French games, just like E33, but are they actually good, or mostly walking sims?

They're on sale on Steam right now, the bundle is pretty cheap.

>>716233108
>simp
Left his girlfriend because she was too much of a doomer. Just because he wasn't heartless enough to let her die alone doesn't mean he's a simp
>spineless
Bosses Lune around and convinces her to help save his sister-daughter
>short-lived
His invention is the only reason you beat the game
>has a genuine desire to kill himself at his first hardship
A realistic depiction of an optimistic soul who got in over his head. Still soldiers on once he realizes all isn't lost
MEANWHILE
>large-penis-haver
>immortal
His MOMMY literally painted both of those on him KWAB

>>716233250
I think it was a little lantern looking doodad. My headcanon for how it works is that you can only fit so many pictos on your body since they have to be like, etched on, but as lumina you can hold a potentially limitless number of them.

>>716233250
It's the lantern thingie Gustave had hanging off his backpack. It allows the party to use pictos.

>>716233583
>the woman I love more than anyone else doesn't want kids, guess I'll live miserably for years and only work up the courage to talk to her a few minutes before she fucking dies

>>716227196 (OP)
nazi game

>>716233108
>if (You) identify more with a teenage girl than a man of conviction
I empathized more with a teenage girl than this retard, that being his sister. So fuck him.

>>716233663
It doesn't let them use Pictos, those are already things people in Lumiere use all the time. The converter allows you to use the Lumina system. So basically every other expedition was limited to 3 picto bonuses, making Expedition 60 even more of the most chad-like expedition of all time

>>716233727
>guess I'll live miserably for years
Gustave and Lune dated after Gustave and Sophie broke up

>>716227196 (OP)
i will never play this game

>>716233782
If painted alicia wanted maelle to have the letter she would've given it to her. Feel free to recall the first sentences of that letter.

>>716233924
Is there anything to support this besides Sophie asking if something happened between them?

>>716227196 (OP)
>game has 3 acts
>the first one is the only one that's any good
>second act has a shitton of pointless padding
>third act is extremely short and blatantly rushed because they realized they were running out of budget, leaves half of the plot points unresolved
every
single
fucking
time

>>716234127
>leaves half of the plot points unresolved
May I see them?

>>716233990
She wanted Verso to stop being an evil asshole, but he wouldn't do it, so she disowned him. In the end when she asks Maelle to kill her she doesn't even consider Verso family anymore. Verso deserves his suffering, he's a fucking loser bitch.

Why did Verso only help some of the Expeditions and not every single one? He was obviously determined to boot his mother from the canvas and accelerate the Gommage.

>>716234602
He thinks the Axons can't be beat, and Aline's braindead avatar outside the monolith won't open the door for him anymore.
Maelle is his way into the manor, which he then can presumably use to bypass the barrier somehow.

>>716234602
While he is evil he's not a psychopath, he got depressed as shit, they also didn't stand a chance being much weaker than e33.

>>716234602
Some of the expeditions were absolutely retarded and had no chance to be fair.

>>716234560
>So I entrust you with this letter. Whether you give it to her is up to you. I’m at peace with what’s to come.
Why are people who seethe so pants-shittingly at verso always so obsessed with their own headcanon?

>>716234797
Did you not notice how she felt about him afterwards? Yes it is his choice, that doesn't mean there isn't a correct choice, which is obvious to everyone, except Verso fans I guess. Even he himself knows he betrays everyone.

>>716234081
His response being "..." which makes it obvious that something did happen and he doesn't want to talk about it with the woman he loves that's about to die

>>716234695
He obviously knew that the giant Paintress wasn’t the real one, so his intention in going to Old Lumiere was to kill the Paintress inside the manor.

>>716234935
He does, but it’s ultimately for the greater good. You can see it when Sciel disappears— Her body language shows disappointment, but also understanding of why he made that decision. Only Lune feels complete and utter betrayal.

>>716235076
why the fuck are you using chatgpt to write your posts?

Reminder that Verso is such a mopey bitch that despite being almost 100 years old and immortal, he still joins the party the same level as Gustave. A man who started his Expedition about a week ago KWAB!

>>716232478
They have cordial conversations where they delve into their emotions as friends and empathize with their shared experiences and suffering.
To terminally online yurifags, troons, retards, and soulless husks that don't know what friendship is, that's basically them having explicit full-frontal lesbian sex on camera.

>>716235125
I’m not. I’m just stating facts.

>>716235076
Sorry, by "brainless avatar outside the manor" I meant the one inside the manor. I see how I didn't make that clear.
Like Renoir, she is trapped. Like the Curator for Renoir, she has one or more avatars that isn't trapped, but can barely do anything.

>>716234602
It seems like he was busy or indisposed during some of them. Doesn't he joke about having to spend a few months cutting his way out of a giant Nevron that ate him?

>>716232596
Can someone link me this clip or give the search terms for it? 'Keep seeing it everywhere.

>>716235076
Sciel is ok with dying since the beginning, she talks about it in the camp. When she dies she will join her husband and child in death. That's why she's so gung-ho/brave as well, she has one foot in the afterlife.

She would absolutely stop him if she could.

>>716235260
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD5mQ7sGaPM&t=4s&ab_channel=siel

>>716235246
That flying snake fucked him up multiple times. Verso was immortal but certainly not all-powerful.

>>716233108
The ass on her though. Who can resist???

>>716235271
>She would absolutely stop him if she could

Doesn’t your whole argument disprove this point? If she wants to go to the afterlife so badly, she’d welcome death.

>>716235391
>stops pounding that sweet ass because she doesn't want kids
>doesn't have kids with anyone else

>>716235398
She's not suicidal, she's just not afraid of dying at all. She would rather help her friends in their fight than just suicide like a coward(Verso).

>>716235312
ty fren

>>716235446
Topkek

>>716235446
Gustave dumping Sophie over her not wanting kids is honestly completely understandable. That would be a dealbreaker for me too.

It’s kind of sad honestly, since it’s obvious that he wants kids above all else, which is probably why he’s so protective of Maelle and his apprentices.

>>716235493
>She would rather help her friends in their fight than just suicide like a coward(Verso).
But that's exactly what Verso does at the end of act II: He could've stayed and let Renoir erase him, but instead chose to fight and help Alicia. Why are verso-haters so retarded?

So that little redhead with the big ass. What exactly is she supposed to be?

>>716235690
Yeah I love to shitpost here but it's motivated by my appreciation for how great this game and its characters were. The frogs killed with this one.

>>716235690
He's protective of Maelle because he was trying to fuck her since the day she showed up.

>>716235716
huh?

>>716230509
Luna is pure kino. Never understood the purpose of Sciel.

I bought it for PS5 and played it there, then pirated it on PC. PC is a 1000x better

>>716235691
He gets pulled along like a child by Maelle iirc, but sure he goes with her, very half heartedly, and then he betrays them, again.

>>716233583
jfc.... every single e33 thread I get a frightning reminder of the types of people devs have to keep in mind when making their game...

>>716235815
Sciel is so obviously a terrible romance candidate that I'm pretty sure she's just meant to appeal to women.

>>716233523
I heard the Rat-Tech is impressive

>>716235815
I think Sciel is better. She’s got more of that rustic country tomboy charm, while Lune is just a boring Asian nerdy girl for weebs. Also, Sciel’s story is way more interesting and fits the themes of the game, and she’s also way stronger as a party member than Lune.

>>716236009
She sucks. Lune is much better in every aspect.

>>716235312
actually based.

>>716235904
Mate she touches his fucking forearm. He's a grown man, she didn't yank him, he chose to go with her. Then chose to help her resurrect Lune and Sciel. Then chose to help her do all of act three up to and inlcuding defeating Renoir to save the canvas. Once she reveals she's never going to leave and is going to suffer the same fate as Aline, THEN he realizes he fucked up. Your criticism made zero sense. I know I can't stop you from inventing realities so you can continue hating Verso, so go ahead and have the last word.

>>716235815
i wanna lick Sciel's tummy scar

>>716236260
HR just wanted to fuck her too, just like that creepy pedo Gustave. I'm fact everyone in that fucking game was trying to fuck Maelle.
What is wrong with the French?

>>716235904
>Maelle
Alicia*

>>716236430
>creepy pedo
>mid 20s

>>716236315
The fact that Sciel can bare children, sees bearing children as a good thing, and would obviously want to bear more if given the chance is enough to elevate her far above Lune, and no amount of screeching from yellow fever fags can convince me otherwise.

>>716236260
He does help them again in a3 until he betrays them again. Renoir is the one who reveals he will destroy the canvas the moment she leaves in the beginning of a3, he already knows she can't leave.

>>716236516
Nice AI. She explicitly stated she was a teenager when they first dueled at the start of the game

>>716236536
We don't know anything about Sciel's parents, but we do know Lune's parents fucked her up and raised her from birth to single mindedly resist the paintress and to live for nothing else. I'm not saying she's not flawed, you're right - I just like the way she's written, and feel that Sciel got less attention from the writers.

>>716236430
Maelle is 16. AKA legal in most parts of the world, including France. Why else do you think they gave her a swimsuit?

>>716236446
She prefers Maelle.

>>716236606
cool headcanon bro
you may want to replay the game though, because none of the shit you said happened

>in the beginning of a3,
or maybe you just didn't finish a3

>>716236691
>It's MA'AM!
That's nice, but Maelle is dead and replaced by Alicia in act III.

>>716236665
I love Sciel, Lune and Maelle, but their one mistake I can't forgive is their repeated trust in Verso, they should have just kicked him out after act 2, he doesn't deserve their friendship.

>>716236068
Lune is a wizard and a scientist. Basically, the brain; what is Sciels role in the expedition and the story?

>>716236009
I thought she was a funny whore

>>716227196 (OP)
I look like this.

>>716232001
We may not know how Gustav would have reacted to all the revelations, but we know he would have taken Versos side at the end. It comes up when talking to people in the prologue.

Gustave: You came.
Lucie: I wasn’t sure if I should.
Gustave: You’ve been avoiding us. You didn’t have to.
Lucie: Mm. I heard Seba filled my spot. After I left.
Gustave: Yeah.
Lucie: D’you think I’m a coward for staying?
Gustave: Do you?
Lucie: Not anymore. Not all of us can change the world. Some of us can only change ourselves.
Gustave: Meaning what? Make yourself accept the unacceptable? Make believe that happiness is… this?
Lucie: More like… rediscover. Happiness. One Gommage left. Maybe contentment is the highest form of happiness.
Gustave: It makes me sad to hear you talk like this. The Paintress stole so many things, including your capacity to dream.
Lucie: No, you misunderstand. My mind is where I can be free. She can’t touch me there. This is my final act of defiance. Just like the Expedition is yours.
Gustave: If you say so.

>>716236769
lune is the brains, maelle is the heart and sciel is the soul.

In all seriousness though she's canonically the best fighter in the expedition, and you could argue even the strongest character gameplay wise as well.

>>716236767
This is one of the rare circumstances where picrelated is being used in proper context. You can argue that it wasn't well-executed, but we were meant to see in the camp dialogs that Verso disarmed their suspicion with his humor and other forms of smooth-talking. I do agree with you that it stretched my belief a times, particularly when you find the Verso journal and the revelation that he killed the painted woman he loved just makes the women go "aww poor verso!" but maybe that was just the French accurately depicting what women will excuse in a man they like.

>>716236763
IT’S NOT AL(icia) ANYMORE!

>>716236752
I'll link it for you: https://youtu.be/nypIbHRm73Q?t=334

What are you talking about headcannon? Renoir is the one who wants to destroy the canvas even before he knows Maelle wants to stay in it because he's afraid Aline will go back in.

>>716236931
>Best fighter on the team
Then how did I prison rape her with Lune in her introduction fight?

>>716236763
No they combine into one person, she clearly says she's both of them at once, with memories of both lives. She values the people she's lived with as Maelle more than the ones she had as Alicia, since they're actually good people in comparison to her SHIT family.

>>716237009
Now go watch the link from the end of a3 where Renoir changed his mind.

>>716236935
Verso is a charming piece of shit from the beginning, he's good looking, funny, charismatic, but an evil piece of shit.

>>716236914
As a versofag, like so much of the game, I think how Gustave would've reacted is heavily up to interpretation. I feel it could be argued that Gustave represented the human spirit that the Lumierens possessed - despite being Aline's creations, they created amazing wonders that allowed them to fight and overpower their creator (shield dome, lumina converter). At the risk of sounding like an aliciafag, I wonder if this was meant to make us ponder whether the Lumierens could've ever found a way to overcome being bound to the canvas is given enough time.

>>716236935
>revelation that he killed the painted woman he loved
She convinced herself he was a paintress created abomination and was actively torturing him
Do you honestly believe that Verso should have let himself get carved up for days while trying to convince her he was on their side?

The game never once mentions why Lune is barefoot, 10/10

>>716237081
Hahaha you mean when he gets his ass kicked so he tries lying? Yeah, who the hell would trust him at that point, the dude has been murdering hundreds of thousands of people for the last century. But he changes his mind, after he has lost... Sure.

>>716236996
kek thanks for that anon
>>716237079
Sure, and some men say they're women. She wants to be Maelle because Maelle belongs in the canvas, and Alicia never wants to leave the canvas. Her motivation is deluding herself into feeling like she's living a life where she didn't get Verso killed - she reveals that when the chips are down. Everything else she says is cope.

>>716237207
It’s how she can Earthbend

>>716237220
cool headcanon, bro
If you don't understand that Renoir didn't want to destroy the painting, you misunderstood the game.

>>716236769
She’s the crit build brawn.

Also, the party members in the game are all obviously hybrids of various Final Fantasy Classes:

Gustave: Fighter/Mechanist

Maelle: Duellist/Red Mage

Lune: Black Mage/White Mage

Sciel: Gambler/Ninja

Verso: Assassin/Samurai

Monoco: Blue Mage

>>716237009
>because he's afraid Aline will go back in.
Another time he was right. The man is never wrong!

>>716237342
>Monoco: Blue Mage
I'd say Monoco is the one man army.

>>716237341
He didn't want to, but that's all he tried doing for the last 100 years. I mean sure? Maybe part of him doesn't want to, but a bigger part of him definitely wants to.

>>716232001
>mfw i get banned for posting an off-topic image (it's a safe image of a random e-girl in an off-topic thread;only i got banned)

>>716237403
My Verso headcannon ending is that Maelle kills herself and Aline kills Renoir in his sleep for what he did.

>>716236931
Lune is brains because she's smart and well read, Maelle is the heart because she is kind and empathetic. Lune is soul because?

>In all seriousness though she's canonically the best fighter in the expedition,
But Verso is the fighter. Sciel is literally useless.

>>716237167
Gustav would have kept striving for the best future Lumiere could achieve, no doubt. Its clear from the dialogue though that he considered the pessimistic escapism that Lucie was engaging with, and Alicia eventually threw herself at, as unfortunate and sad.
He would have encouraged Maelle to leave the painting

>>716237342
The correct play would have been to double down.
Monoco: Blue Mage/Blue Mage

>>716234127
Act 2 is the best one though, the Axon fights alone beat Act 1.

>>716237142
Nah he just has a goal that's opposed to the party's goal. You'll understand when you grow up.
>>716237182
I reread the journals and I'm not sure he was being tortured, but I suppose interrogated can reasonably be interpreted that way. Regardless, if he could kill her, he probably could've also just escaped. I don't think it was some horrific act, it was obviously a very dire and emotional situation, but I do feel it was brushed off a bit.

>>716237585
He would have encouraged Maelle to leave the painting and fight Renoir in the real world to protect it.
There's one thing Versofags are correct about: The Maelle ending only postpones the destruction of the world.

>>716237746
His goal being to kill every living being in the canvas, and tricking his new "friends" into doing it against their will. Truly the actions of a good person.

>>716237817
No it doesn't, after she dies in there Renoir has no reason to destroy it anymore, so the world continues on. I don't even think Renoir(despite being evil) would kill everyone and destroy the canvas just out of spite to his dead daughter.

>>716237564
Sciel soloed the entire Gestral village in the arena. Meanwhile, Verso was neck and neck with Monoco in terms of power.

Besides, I feel as though Verso is more of a skill based DEX based fighter rather than pure unga bunga strength. No one dual wields a sword and dagger unless they’re a DEX build.

>>716237746
The journal doesn't cover what happened, only Julie's intentions beforehand and Versos response afterwards.
Its in one of Maelle's nightmare cutscenes, a frightened and bloody Verso looking over their bodies and freaking out. Its not the look of a man who just committed coldblooded murder, its someone trying to figure out why

>>716237921
And even if the world is destroyed, it will happen 100+ years later, meaning they all got to live out their lives in happiness.

>>716237820
That was Renoir's goal and he was already winning - it was going to happen, no ifs ands or buts about it. Verso's goal was to get Aline out before she totally crumbled.

>>716237564
Sciel is a combat freak

Clea deserved more screentime desu

>>716238086
worst girl

>>716238040
That's what I thought as well, postponing the destruction of a world for a century is well worth the life of one girl. But
>>716237921
is right, and I just didn't think it through.

>>716237921
>Maelle committing suicide in the painting forces Renoir to preserve it
we're reaching dangerous levels of cope here

>>716238040
>they all got to live out their lives in happiness.
You didn't understand the game man
The whole city was locked in on sacrificing themselves to save the city and their collective future. It didn't matter how many fell on the way as long as Lumiere as a whole continued.

They wouldn't be fine with a literal death sentence for Lumiere and getting a full lifetime to live. Its the same horrible situation from the start of the game, just with an invisible and restarted timer.

>>716238054
There's no way his goal is to save Aline, his goal is clearly to kill himself. Why would he care about her life that much? That makes no sense at all, she has not exactly been a good mother to him.

>>716233108
Wrong. He fails because I liked Gustave more than him.
Shouldn't have let the man die, Vercuck! Now play that fucking piano.

>>716227196 (OP)
He's alive and with Sophie again though

>>716238305
>his goal is clearly to kill himself.
He doesn't do that when given the chance. He helps Alicia fight, instead, and kicks off act III by choosing to live. The only times he does things that would lead to his own death, it's to help other people - Aline in Act II and Alicia in Act III.

>>716238276
Renoir claims he doesn't want to destroy the canvas, when she is dead he has no reason at all to do it, feel free to give an argument instead of a dumb meme about coping.

Sciel has the most fun broken build when you raise her crit percentage to over 100 and use that attack that does double damage for each forestall applied but doesn’t remove it if you land a critical

>>716238040
>it will happen 100+ years later, meaning they all got to live out their lives in happiness
Bruh, Maelle(Alicia)fags are really unhinged.
I guess you're done pretending you care about the people living in the world, just like Alicia, hmm?

>>716237921
>I don't even think Renoir(despite being evil) would kill everyone and destroy the canvas just out of spite to his dead daughter.
Clea absolutely would.

>>716238395
She has such a great ass

>>716238439
Renoir isn't going to let Alicia die in the canvas anymore than he was going to let Aline die in there. He's going to pull her out eventually. The only path that could've led to the canvas's preservation was Alicia leaving willingly, but she fucked that up.

>>716238427
He "helps" Aline by forcing her out against her will, which prolongs her life in the world she does not want to live in(verso should be sympathetic), and kills everyone in the world that wants to live on(thousands and thousands of people). There's 0 moral grounds to his point of view.

>>716238439
>I need to destroy the canvas because my wife is trying to commit suicide in it
>We barely got my wife out of the canvas, now time to destroy it before she gets back in and commits suicide
>welp, I was right about her getting back in the painting to commit suicide, and now my daughter is lying about wanting to commit suicide in the painting
>welp, my daughter did lie and commit suicide int he painting. I guess I need to let the painting live to let my wife die now
He'd burn the fucking painting to save his wife

>>716238581
>He "helps" Aline by forcing her out against her will,
kek I've seen all I need from you

>Verso hates his life
>can't kill himself because he was cursed with immortality
>Alicia hates her life
>doesn't kill herself because...?
Like damn bitch if you really fucking hate being burned and mute just kill yourself IRL

>>716238564
>Could have led

Renoir is 100% destroying the painting, Alicia is a powerless child in the real world who can do nothing about it

>>716238513
Why would Clea destroy the canvas?

>>716238689
She wants her mom out to kill writer fucking shits

>>716238764
But if maelle is dead then surely so is Aline, she's already dying by the end, no way she outlives Maelle

>>716238513
>I guess you're done pretending you care about the people living in the world, just like Alicia, hmm?
Why do you think a new 100 year lease on life wouldn't work for Lumiere?
Its not like they've been in that exact situation before and slowly collapsed despite having hope they could stop it.
Its not like they stopped having kids and a bunch of people just gave up on life
I'm sure they'd live to the fullest, right?

>>716238663
If they had any sense. They'd have put Tyrone and D'Shawn in the game. They would stolen the painting and sold it at Frankie's Pawn & Shit...
Problem solved.

>>716238653
Anon, that's why you don't discuss with Maellefags about the endings.
It's pointless, they got their own headcanon.
One moment, they are all "oh I choose Maelle to save the people", and they'll also say "yeah the world might be doomed, but it'll be in 100+ years, it's fine she'll get to live her life".
They'll be "Oh Verso is a fucking liar I hate him" while also "oh esquie and monoco are the best characters in the game (even though they know 100% of the plot, of Verso's prime goal to kick Aline, what it'd do).

>>716238513
So because someone evil will eventually destroy the world, you should give up and destroy it now.

>>716239115
Yeah all these arguments have been made dozens of times but I still enjoy seeing them work themselves into frothing rages about muh evil verso based off of their own headcanons.

Everyone who is 33 gets rekt. Then the next year everyone who is 32 gets rekt and then anyone who is 31 the year after that.
So, if I'm 32 on the year the 33 year old boomers get rekt... I am safe. Because the following year, the 32 year olds get roasted, I will be 33. So I get to live on age 100.
What's the big deal?

>>716239115
No, it's the canvas people that get to live 100 years more that I care about. That's a lot better than just getting killed immediately.

>>716233108
>Versocuck criticising Gustchad for contemplating suicide when that's his entire motivation

>>716239115
You're retarded bro. She doesn't live 100 years alone, she let's everyone in the canvas get 100 more years. But you're siding with the character that might kill all of them after she dies because apparently he's the good guy?

>>716233108
Fundamentally, Gustave is not real. Verso is real.
I can't consider the canvas people to be real. It's amazing take on Tron.

>>716239474
Condemning the painted people to a cycle of endless suffering isn’t noble.

>>716239842
Verso is a canvas person retard. That's why he hates himself, he doesn't think he's "real". They are real though, people who use the word real can't even define what it means in a coherent way.

>>716227196 (OP)
I'm playing this now so i won't read the thread BUT i fucking died laughing when generic white male protagonist with foppish hair #2 walked in immediately after the fact
also the game bucking all the rules by having only one male party member (and a gay creature you'll never use because the gestral look like a cross between resident evil 5 and a pokemon) but also he's the protag is kind of based
Fun game so far but i can absolutely feel the story getting retarded... I just know it's going to get mad dumb. I hope it does

>>716239945
They are not suffering anymore though since Renoir has been kicked out so he can't kill and torture people anymore. That's why we're happy in the end, the evil man is kicked out.

>Maelle how could Gommage my painted sister that was in constant pain and misery? I never got to say goodbye and by that I mean I never got the chance to beg you to change your mind
>lol painted people don't exist and I want to kill myself to byebye entire world

>>716227196 (OP)
the biggest bitch character ever created. truly only something a french faggot with the aid of a woman could conceive.

>>716240101
He was going to burn the painting the moment Alicia left, he made that very clear even when letting her stay a bit longer

>>716239945
It wouldn't be suffering though. They've got a whole generation of guaranteed safety bought from Maelle's sacrifice, and the hope that in that time something about the situation changes.
Maybe the writers kill all the Dessendres, and there's nobody left who cares about the painting?
It's hope. It's better than just dying.

>>716240101
Renoir can just destroy the canvas from the outside though. Alicia and Aline being stuck in it is the only reason he doesn’t.

>>716240101
>MY ending is WEEE HAPPPYYYY!!

>>716239842
The canvas people arent "real" but they very much live real lives

>>716239256
>Because the following year, the 32 year olds get roasted, I will be 33. So I get to live on age 100.
Doesn't work like that, you'll still die when it turns 32.

>>716240119
He also tries to kill her earlier when he tricks the expedition to kill the paintress, but I guess it's easier for him when he gets to die as well and doesn't have to see her die, the fucking coward.

>>716238201
She was the only non retarded woman in the game

>>716240216
>>716240234
Yes but he has no reason to destroy it when they're dead. Or are you arguing your "hero" will kill everyone in the canvas just for the lulz? What a good guy.

>>716240910
Renoir made his intentions for destroying the canvas very clear, this isn't a fucking theory

>>716240894
The girl who doesn't care about anything but her war, who creates a monster that tortures Versos fragment(fading boy) for an eternity so he can't sleep, tortures her painted version by making some kind of mind control/overwrite on her while she's conscious of it. She's a borderline psychopath, It says a lot about you that you think she's the reasonable one.

>>716240847
Maelle even confronts him about that and his only reply was "I-it's different!"

>>716240972
He has no reason to destroy it anymore after his wife and daughter are dead.

>>716241116
>Maelle
Alicia*

>>716241053
Painted people aren't real, she's fighting in the real world and doesnt have time for all that family drama. Even then she created the Nevrons which fucked over the Paintress more than Renoir ever did by himself.

>>716241163
He's not going to let his wife and daughter die, anon.

>>716241243
Define real

>>716241263
He has no choice, Maelle kicked him out and he has no chance anymore, if he comes back in they will kick his ass again. He lost.

>>716241284
If some 14 year old girl can delete you from existence at will or repaint you to have a completely different personality you arent real.

>>716241363
Aline was a better painter than him and she was losing. Alicia is a shitter painter, she'll lose, too.

>>716227196 (OP)
he looks like the typical french soiboi

>>716241363
>Maelle
Alicia*

>>716241430
A 14 year old can delete you from existance, or change your personality. You are not real.

I want a threesome with Maelle in Lune. I walk in while they are doing yoga on tight leggings. I get them on all 4s while I get behind them to show them how it's done properly. One thing leads to another and my cock gets buried in both their asses.

>>716241434
Maelle, Sciel, Lune and Monoco will kick his ass every time he dares show his face.

>>716241675
Sorry anon, Alicia gets confused about the two realities. You will never be a woman and Alicia will never be Maelle.

>>716236446
>>716236763
Note that the above is an autistic retard who posts this in every thread while wagging back and forth.

>>716241760
She's not confused, she's aware of both her lives. She just choses to be Maelle because she prefers that version of herself. Not shocking that she turns out happier and stronger in the life where she has support from good people like Gustave and Sophie, while in her life as Alicia where she is force to live with her shit family she's a timid and depressed wreck.

>>716241986
You don't get to choose who you are. She is who she is, and that's Alicia. Maelle had never met and didn't care about Verso, but Alicia's entire reason for staying in the canvas is the same as Aline's - to pretend Verso is alive.

>>716237342
Dumb dumb.
Mechanist isn't a job
Sciel is by far the clearest example of a FF job clone and you couldn't even tell which one (Astrologian). Secondarily reaper due to the scythe and darkness theme. She has nothing to do with gambler or ninja.
Verso doesn't throw money, the trademark of the FF samurai job.

>>716242067
Autism. You're going to keep being that annoying spammer who doesn't understand the story due to autism but keeps spamming wrong takes and being annoying anyway.

>>716241986
Canvas world is not real. It's "people" are not real

>>716241986
How is her real family shit? Verso literally died to save her and Renoir clearly cares about her. Clea is a cunt but I doubt she bullied her or anything and Aline was said to be a good mom before Verso's death broke her.

>>716242067
She has lived two lives and decides to continue on with the life of Maelle. Maelle gets to know Verso during their travels. And no she stays because she cares about everyone in there, any other claim is absolutely retarded and if you argue otherwise you didn't play the game.

>>716242342
He's an autist, he did play the game but he doesn't understand the characters. And due to autism he will never stop sperging out about it.

>>716242272
You can keep seething about being wrong, it's fine. Alicia would prefer to be Maelle so that she could feel she fits into the world she wants to remain in, but doesn't really understand her.
>>716242342
>She has lived two lives and decides to continue on with the life of Maelle.
>"hey did you let gustave die?"
>"yeah"
>"lmao"
>Unbreakable Bond
Yeah totally living that Maelle life. Alicia and Maelle are different characters.

>>716242314
They are conscious being, that's as real as it gets.

>>716242329
Clea blames her for Versos death to her face, a depressed wreck of a person who can barely speak. Aline clearly doesn't care much about her. Renoir cares about her sure, but he's a disturbed man who is willing to murder hundreds of thousands of people to control his wife, a terrible person. He also alludes to being a terrible husband earlier which might be why Aline doesn't want to leave in the first place.

>>716242525
Canvas world is not real

>>716238427
>He doesn't do that when given the chance.
His first chance comes after the final battle and he takes it right away.

>>716242529
She is forgiving to a fault I definitely agree with that. She also says Renoir is "much warmer" than Versos painted Renoir, the same Renoir who has mercilessly been killing people for 100 years... So yeah Maelle is not perfect by any means, she should never have forgiven Verso but she wants to. She obviously cares more about Verso than she should because he's kind of her brother.

>>716242764
His first chance is when Renoir is erasing him at the end of Act II. Rather than staying and allowinh Renoir to kill him, he flees with Alicia. Play the game.

>>716239842
Real Verso is dead, Aline.

>>716242991
He is entirely ok with being erased but Alicia stops him. Play the game.

>>716242772
>She is forgiving to a fault I definitely agree with that.
And Maelle wasn't. They're different people with different personalities.
>he's kind of her brother.
Not Maelle's.

>>716243073
Anyone can watch the cutscene and see that you're lying. Alicia starts fleeing and urges him to come along. He chooses to, because his goal remained to help her. He absolutely had the option to stay and die, and chose not go. You clearly misremembered something, and that's okay. This is an anonymous imageboard, there's no face to save.

>>716243096
She is both persons as I said, she just choses to continue on with Maelles life in the end, she still gets some of the personality from Alicia I agree with that. But she has way more of Maelles personality, Alicia is a meek, depressed wreck.

>>716227196 (OP)
Persona, BUT UGLY

>>716243096
You're retarded anon. Maelle is Alicia. They're the same person. Maelle just grew up in different circumstances. Once she becomes whole she is both. They are not separate entities.

>>716243195
Re-watched it now. He starts getting gommaged, Maelle stops it and then pulls him along, he seems to be completely confused, not really making any choice himself, just being dragged along.

>>716243217
You don't choose the life you lead with a declaration. You do so over time with your actions. Her actions are those of Alicia. Maelle cared about Gustave and Emma and the apprentices. She'd probably learned to care about Sciel and Lune after their journey, and to some extent Verso by the end of act II. Maelle didn't care about Lumiere. Alicia says she does as an attempt to larp as Maelle, who she doesn't really understand, but shows her true colors by only repairing the operahouse so she can watch her brother play piano. Maelle is dead. She's depicted as a separate character. She waves goodbye to Alicia in Verso's ending like all the other dead Lumierens.

>>716243437
She didn't drag him. He walked, followed her. You may continue coping.

>>716243195
>Anyone can watch the cutscene and see that you're lying
Then how about you go rewatch it? Seems like you skipped it the first time.

>>716233523
I did. If you ignore the dumb story and some of the retarded twists (the least spoiler-y example is the first boss whose armor is held by metal rings you break with a fucking sling), it's a very decent series. I absolutely would the gypsy from the second one

>>716243594
https://youtu.be/nypIbHRm73Q?t=477

Here she is, pulling him along.

>>716243512
She choses to save Lumiere and all her friends she got to love as Maelle. She makes a promise with Verso that he will play for her at the opera, as Maelle.

>>716243512
God you are such an insufferable retard.

>>716227196 (OP)
You barely get to know the guy before he departs. Has any one noticed how a lot of writers nowadays expect you to get attached to characters that have like 10 minutes of screentime?

>>716244961
Most people definitely get attached to him though.

>>716244961
You spend a couple hours with him. Much better than most JRPGs where the old mentor dies less than an hour into the game.

>>716235815
You're only saying this because you find Lune attractive. She was easily the weakest of the cast. She had little connection with Verso. At least Sciel was bantering with Verso.

>>716245358
Personally I like both of them a lot, and hate Verso.

>>716229857
So did I. Basically because he had a full skill tree available. I thought the game spoiled itself with that.

>>716240021
>people who use the word real can't even define what it means in a coherent way
Something that exists outside of human creation.

>>716245749
Wait what, things humans create are not real? Does that include having a baby?

>>716235815
>>716231526
They didn't have a crisis because they're painted (not real people)

>>716246163
Verso is painted and is a crying bitch about it though? I just think they're strong people.

>>716245871
Venn diagram
All fake things are human creations, but not all human creations are fake.

Why do Maellefags say Verso kills millions? Renoir killed everyone at the end of act 2. Verso's ending kills 2 people: Sciel and Lune, and only Lune is completely against it. Maellefags BTFO

>>716246427
So your definition of fake is "some things human create", how do you decide when it's a real creation and when it's a fake one.

>>716246740
Verso is the one who tricks the party into helping Renoir kill all those people. In his ending he also kills the remaining people as you point out, as well as all the other creatures in the canvas. Sciel not being afraid of death doesn't mean she approves of him murdering them.

>>716246948
>Verso is the one who tricks the party into helping Renoir kill all those people
Renoir was already winning

>>716246740
Did you forget about the Gestrals?

>>716246948
Ok and? He didn't kill them, and they are dead by the time you choose an ending, so it's irrelevant to bring them up.

and don't even pretend you're concerned with gestrals kek, maellefags always talk about lumerians

>>716247352
Renoir was already murdering people yes. Verso helped him murder them faster. It's also made worse by him tricking his supposed friends into doing the opposite of what they want, killing all their loved ones and themselves.

>>716247370
did you? i never see maellefags bring them up. either way they are LITERALLY not people, so no, maellefags are wrong

>>716247453
Of course it's relevant in the end, I will not take the mass murderers side. Why would I want to help Renoir? He's a fucking psychopath. Imagine forcing Maelle to live with that monster who murdered everyone she loved. And helping Verso betray his friends AGAIN. No fucking way.

>>716241163
>this thing is why my wife and youngest daughter is dead, let me keep it safe forever now

>>716241053
didnt even visit francois, the bitch

I've watched a few let's plays. It's funny how women say Gustave is nice and friendly but not ever mention that he's attractive past the first few minutes (despite him looking like Rpats).
Meanwhile the second Verso talks their clitty starts leaking.
Women don't like crybaby men folks.

>>716246257
No, those are just copies from a third-rate painter with a fourth-grade brush.
Verso doesn't want the canvas gone but he knows it has to go. Or maybe it's his programming

>>716247608
The reason they are dead is because he was such a shit husband/father that they would rather live inside the canvas than with him. He also claims he really does not want to destroy it since he also values it as a memory of his son. Do you think he lied about that? Do you think he would kill everyone inside of it as some sort of wicked revenge for his family being dead? I guess it's not impossible but that makes it even more right to go against him since he truly is a psychotic villain at that point.

>>716247576
Verso is not a mass murderer, he kills 2 people. Are Maellefags retarded? Renoir kills everyone at the end of act2, and would continue killing with or without Verso's involvement. Verso was saving his mother.

>>716247786
>The reason they are dead is because he was such a shit husband/father that they would rather live inside the canvas than with him.
It's not at all possible that they're motivated by grief about verso? Jesus you people have issues with father figures.

>>716235815
Lune was a bitch but Sciel looked like a skank. We just put up with her because shes a 6/10 asian. Switch their personalities and Sciel would get hate threads

>>716246757
When it exists and corresponds with our world of spacetime.

The Dessendre fucking sucks, that's why the Maelle ending is best: it maximizes that shitty family's suffering. I don't give a single solitary fuck about the painted people, but every fucking Painter deserves to hang.

>>716247871
Sure they are, but if he was a good husband he would have entered the canvas, comforted his wife, maybe hung out inside there for a while with her and eventually talked her into leaving, at least for a while.

The entire situation goes out of hand because he starts a fucking war inside the canvas instead of being supportive and kind towards his grieving wife.

>>716248012
>she wouldn't talk at all outside the canvas
>she definitely was willing to talk while her mind was crumbling inside the canvas and she was living with her fake family
kek she'd already painted a replacement, she wasn't in any mood to talk by then. Play the game anon.

>>716247858
Verso knows exactly what will happen when he tricks them into killing the paintress, he's definitely partially responsible for all the deaths. He has also killed abunch of expeditioners earlier together with painted renoir, he stops doing that eventually but yeah, mass murderer for sure. He also kills, Lune, Sciel, Monoco, Esquie, Francois and all the gestrals and those hairy mountain people.

>>716248148
>those hair mountain people
Definitely how you describe people you have genuine concern for

>>716247731
Except Verso is arguably more emo than Gustave. Verso has a number of emotional breakdowns throughout the game. More than Gustave, in fact.

>>716235076
>You can see it when Sciel disappears— Her body language shows disappointment
No way she was fucking pissed. Women can mask their fury, you just have to look for the signs.

>>716248148
>He also kills, Lune, Sciel, Monoco, Esquie, Francois and all the gestrals and those hairy mountain people.

Only this is relevant to the ending. Monoco and Esquie support Verso, but even if they didn't, they aren't people, neither are gestrals and neither are the mountain "people" you give so little shit about you can't remember their name kek

>>716248141
He decides to take the violent path forward instead of trying to be diplomatic, he might'e been able to just talk her out of it eventually, he decides to force her out instead. And he forces her by murdering innocent people by the hundreds of thousands, there's just no way to justify his actions.

>>716227196 (OP)
>>716229580
remember that we're introduced to him as someone who literally wanted to kill himself before asian girl lead stopped him

we shouldn't shed a tear for him
he's in a better place now

>>716248472
>he might'e been able to just talk her out of it eventually
Why would he assume that? When she was fully lucid she was totally unwilling. In the canvas she had painted a replacement family and was only getting crazier. Despite your headcanon, there are zero reasons to assume she'd have magically become willing to talk and leave "eventually."

>>716248236
>>716248432
Oh no I forgot the name of creatures in a game I finished months ago, that means the in game arguments are null and void... if you're retarded.

"people" are of worth because they're sentient and conscious, and all those creatures are sentient and conscious.

>>716248635
I'm not saying she definitely would have, just what would be the only ethical choice he could make. If she doesn't want to leave with him that's her right. It's definitely not his right to murder thousands and thousands of families and cause suffering on a global scale for his own sake like a fucking psychopath.

>>716248302
I can read faces, an you can tell she feels conflicted. On the one hand, she likes Verso (being romantically involved with him and all), as she also sympathises with his desire to protect his family, but you can tell she isn’t pleased that her husband and child wouldn’t be brought back and that Verso had to backstab the party (except Esquie and Monoco who were in on it) to accomplish it.

Really, the only way you’d get a happy ending out of it is if they found a third way like P Alicia suggested in her letter.

>>716248645
Why not bring up animals such as birds, hell, why not bring up plants? Verso destroys those too.

The cost of Verso's ending is 2 people, not all of Lumiere as you love to argue.

>>716248740
>ethical choice
He's a Painter, they don't give a shit about ethics.
After destroying your first few Canvas Worlds with thousands of thinking people in it, you hardly feel a thing about it anymore..

>>716248472
He did try to talk her out of it. His first instinct wasn't to destroy that remaining visages of his dead son.

>>716248740
>I'm not saying she definitely would have,
You sounded pretty certain here >>716248012

>>716248890
Because plants are not conscious? But yes Animals are included in the "creatures" category.

>>716247786
hes killing everyone inside for his live family, with a bit of grief its not unfeasible hed nuke the place for a dead one

>>716248804
Cold fury masked behind a smile. She's been depressed about her husband and child this entire time and through Alicia she realizes Death isn't Death and her family can be brought back. Verso takes all that away. She is pissed, so pissed she became frightfully calm.

What if Gustave survived the encounter with P Renoir? Would Verso have killed him?

Renoir killed thousands of Lumierians, Gestrals, Grandis and Nevrons.
Everyone was very sad about the Lumierians.

>>716248898
I mean we're arguing about which ending is morally correct, so if your argument for his ending is that "he's evil and doesn't care what is right" then we're in agreement.

>>716248923
I just explained what he should have tried to do. And I do think it would have worked if he was a decent husband, but he wasn't. and isn't.

>>716248962
>Because plants are not conscious?
Definitely more conscious than Maellefags.Plants live and have awareness. Keep coping.

>>716249175
>maellefags suddenly care about gestrals and hairy mountain people no even remembers the name of

>>716249228
>I just explained what he should have tried to do.
And it would've failed. He's reasonably intelligent and more invested than you and obviously came to the same conclusion. Any scenario that doesn't save his wife's life was a nonstarter for him.

>>716247731
suicidal liar > nice guy

bad boys win again

>>716249342
They were pretty cool I thought, I'd rather save the grandis than fucking Renoir, he should kill himself.

>>716249387
If it would have failed it would have failed because he failed as a husband. By not accepting that and using violence to murder until he forces his wife home he fails as a human as well.

I'm an absolute retard so I still don't understand why Renoir was trying to prevent people from killing the Paintress.

>>716249419
you don't get to save or harm Renoir in either ending, he's not even in the painting by the time you make a choice

>>716236691
>prefers a face that isn't a massive burn scar, both eyes, and a working voice box

surprising

>>716249548
he didn't wanna die

>>716249548
He would lose his immortality and probably die pretty quickly since he was really old, he enjoyed living forever.

>>716249504
And now you're going in circles.
>He's a bad husband for not talking to her!
Talking wouldn't have worked.
>I didn't say it would work!
then why would he do it?
>It'd definitely work if he were a good husband!
I think you're just retarded.

>>716249548
That wasn’t the real Renoir. That was a painted Renoir that the Paintress made.

The Curator is the real Renoir, and the true cause behind the Gommage.

>>716249548
Painted Renoir knows that the Paintress is the only thing preventing the destruction of the Canvas.
His family lives in the Canvas. They would die if it was destroyed.

>>716249419
Aliciafags need to view every action through the lens of "how can this hurt verso or renoir, or ideally both?" They have issues with real family members they're projecting onto the game, and therefore identify with the teenager that wants to live in a fantasy.

>>716249654
It wouldn't have worked because he was a bad husband to her earlier, she pulled away because he was a shit husband, do you not understand? And once he has failed as a husband he also fails as a human when he goes on a murderspree.

>>716249641
>>716249650
>>716249662
>>716249663
Oh I see now there's painted versions of themselves that are not real.

>>716249734
How dare we not like Renoir or Verso, they're such good boys trying to murder everyone to "save" Aline against her will, truly the unsung heroes.

>>716249801
They're painted versions as viewed by Aline (the paintress)

>>716249663
I do wonder why P Renoir didn’t just reveal the truth behind everything and explain that the real Renoir is the problem. It would be way more effective than trying to kill all the Expeditioners as they land.

>>716249934
I think the painted dessendres tried that before, and people didn't believe them.

>>716249934
I honestly think that's a bit of a plothole, but it's explained away by "they wouldn't believe me anyway, those other guys didn't, so I might as well just kill 'em".

>>716248472
probably mad hes getting cucked by painted himself

>>716232720
>>only likes Maelle because he's painted that way
Same applies to Gustave

>>716248898
do they ever say they actually destroy their old canvas?

>>716250110
Expedition 60 discovered the truth though, and they would have gone after The Curator/Renoir if not for the Gommage.

>>716235312
> the real one is the one that's the sequel hook just in case the game sells well
I kind of respect that even though I like Verso's ending more.

>>716249175
nevron sympathizer

well i guess the white ones were chill

>>716250329
And I wasn't even correct. Renoir didn't get to kill any Nevrons.
That was all Verso.

>>716250329
das raycis

>>716250253
They don't. Clea definitely gives the impression that she has no issue whatsoever with killing inside the canvas though.

>>716250329
I really thought they were going to pull a Nier go for the cliche angle of “Nevrons are innocent and you’re a monster for killing them”. I was shocked when it turned out that most of them were dumb and psychotic, and that they’re basically just Clea’s murder drones.

>>716250253
This is just my interpretation but it doesn't seem like there's a need to destroy them - if no one is actively maintaining them, they just stop functioning magically. That's why Verso's canvas needed the piece of Verso's soul to keep it going.

>>716250706
The implication is that every canvas has a piece of the painters soul in it, because they "pour their soul" into their work.

Why can we at the same time have great threads about this game like this one and other times complete garbage threads filled with schizos?

Why do painters become fucked up when they enter a Canvas?

>>716235758
It's really well written and doesn't have those retarded 20 minute exposition dumps like many other games, especially modern JRPGs

my selection of underrated themes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9HMUQnJTLs&list=RDi9HMUQnJTLs&t=27s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B1ZVdulBj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxBeO801AiQ
https://youtu.be/CrCys8wjWIU?t=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGzREamf6hM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJUvFtefTjk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aoxk1lrI6rs
https://youtu.be/W31-txe3KHM?t=51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbK7iYQ79ng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0_6aGqsz7A&list=RDH0_6aGqsz7A
https://youtu.be/i9HMUQnJTLs?list=RDi9HMUQnJTLs&t=27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUjUvZ_WupE

>>716250110
>>716249934
They did try but stopped for the same reason they left Lumiere to live on the continent:
People didn't believe them
>>716250329
The White One were failures
>>716253758
They lose themselves I guess.
Which is why Renoir is set on kicking her out, she saved him from that fate once and showed him how to properly paint.

>>716242530
Aline clearly does love her. She allows her to have a typewriter, a tool of the enemy in plain view in the middle of her room. Her behavior in the fight against Renoir also seems like that of a loving mother. The way she looks at Alicia when entering doesn't exactly scream "You should have died instead of Verso, I hate you". Also, the fact that she entered, risked her life and then left when she wasn't needed anymore all to help Alicia.

>>716248012
>>716248472
Aline didn't want to leave
>hurr she just needed comfort and Renoir just went in there wanting to destroy everything
He tried talking to her but it didn't work.
Same with Alicia. Only reason he fucks off is because he wants to believe.
He also says several times that he doesn't want to destroy the canvas but has to because they cling to it. Of course he'd rather hide but it doesn't work

>>716254567
>all to help Alicia.
To prevent the painting from being destroyed
>She allows her to have a typewriter, a tool of the enemy in plain view in the middle of her room.
We don't know anything about the Writers but whatever. She does allow her children to explore other areas, same with Verso and music.

But please keep in mind that she still burned the painted version of her bitch daughter

>>716232683
Meanwhile, Ben Starr is is a bro and FFVIII enjoyer.

>>716254567
We don't know a great deal about the family dynamics of the dessendres before the fire. There's details enough for you to see love if you want to, and dysfunction if you want to. A lot of people seem to desperately want Alicia's real family to be a dysfunctional mess that she has countless reasons to escape from. As usual, what people see in art reveals things about themselves.

The best ending is the one where Maelle wins and gets her way.
Sorry Versofags, all your champion is good for is playing the piano for the rest of eternity :)

>>716256214
It'd be cool if that were an option but Maelle is only a character in acts 1 and 2. Act 3 showdown is between Alicia and Verso

>>716238305
You're dumb

>>716227196 (OP)
kek what an astroturfed shit game
never buying, not even pirating