Thread 282040962

Now Yoshida sent Denji into limbo, what will Tardji's choice be? Opening the door, or not opening? Me thinks Turdji will open it.

This is the thread

holy sexo
>>282039546
if Aki were based he would've saved her and kept her as a fleshlight

>>282041383
That scenery...

>>282041436
The ghost devil is still the number1 scammer in this manga. What a shit contract

>>282041436
There was nothing to keep, literally

>>282040962 (OP)
>I want to protect both choices
Has become
>I WANT TO FUCKING KILL BOTH BITCHES

>>282040962 (OP)
What door? The door to Yorus pussy or the door to Deaths pussy?

A glimpse of Part II Reze?

>>282040962 (OP)
the only thing Yuckshita did was sending himself to hell

>>282040962 (OP)
What door? I'm out of the loop

>>282041527
Denji will choose a third option. Horseman harem

YoSHITass.

>>282041550
schizo headcanon, don't bother

>>282041535
Without the sample and kekji shit

>>282041568
So you know? Tell me, those theories are always entertaining

>>282041568
>schizo headcanon
Cope and seethe, faggot, cope and seethe

>>282041597
but enough about what you will do on september 16th

>>282041535
Took him a week to draw that? Also Denji still looks poorly drawn

>>282041557
Will be interesting to see his choice but right now I failt to see how he can make any difference. Death and Fumiko probably just want to push him into battle with the hope of him ending up weaponized.

>>282041622
>no u
lol retarded faggot

>>282041634
I wonder what's up with that. Maybe they had him add Denji at the last moment, or Fujimbo simply didn't want to draw him

>>282041652
Is the couch slowly becoming canon?

>>282041652
>Gayshida kissing a girl

Heheh

all you Chainsawman fangirls need to lose some fucking weight God DAMN

>>282041686
He does it to piss off Kekji.

>>282041270
>>282041383
They look similar, way too similar

>>282041669
any yoshita.jpg posts are inane headcanon babble that will eventually devolve into coping when they never happen

>>282041721
Guess who is in pic related.

>>282041717
i am skinny though

>>282041730
>most of them say he's dead
Let's go Yoshidagods, our boy is still alive

>>282041780
post tummy

In T minus 11 days
>*looks around* WHERE DID YOSHIDA GO? THAT WAS A WIERD WAY OF SAYING GOODBYE. WELL, THE PIZZA WAS GREAT I GUESS.
>WHA? WHERE THE FUCK IS THE SCHOOL? AND WHAT'S WITH THIS DOOR??
>OH HI POCHITA. WHAT'S THAT? DON'T OPEN IT? SILLY POCHITA, I CAN'T JUST STAY HERE IN THE DARKNESS WITH THESE ASTRONAUTS. I NEED TO GO FIND FUMIKO, LIL D AND YORU SO I CAN MARRY, FUCK, KILL THEM. OK SEE YA! *waves*

>>282041798
i am not a slut

>Chainsaw Man selling less than Kaiju 8 with a movie coming out
It's over

>>282041801
>I NEED TO GO FIND FUMIKO, LIL D AND YORU SO I CAN MARRY, FUCK, KILL THEM. OK SEE YA! *waves*
kekarooooooo

>>282041535
>>282041577
cope, she is irrelevant to part 2

>>282041717
I will use up to four seats (three for free) in the movie and you will get a sold out warning, I'll laugh and you'll cope

>>282041809
it's okay, posting tummy won't make you a slut

>>282041809
You will never be a woman too

>NPC #8

That reflects more poorly on Japanese taste than anything else

>>282041818
>selling less
I don't think the sales for vol 22 are out yet, but yeah, I'm sure it will flop. All we had that volume is KEKji screaming and crying, and let's not forget the jobbing too.

>>282041831
Averge Asasissy seethe

>>282041861
They dropped shart2 en masse so that tells us something good about their taste

>>282041752
Asa and Yoshida's son. I couldn't think of a name for him.

>>282041870
Don't call them that, it arouses them.

>>282041863
Shoseki first day sales are out
http://shosekiranking.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-5380.html?sp

>>282041870
>Averge Asasissy seethe
he even made a typo, he is angry

>>282041872
fact

>>282041913
sells better than i thought it would, must be the movie hype

>>282041686
Lmao

>>282041913
I mean that doesn't tell us anything. Kaijuu 8 is a well selling manga selling over 300k copies, meanwhile CSM flopped to 130k. We need actual numbers Micro.

Pit sex

>P thread flopped
kek a roo

>>282041818
>>282041863
>>282041872
I don't even like Kaiju 8 and i fucking hate it but K8 was objectively speaking far more popular CSM ever was in Japan, like pre-anime K8 outsold Part 1 miles ahead. I don't understand why you retards act surprised with K8 doing better.

>>282041652
>GODshiAsa
Based Drawyuta. Poor SHITru still stuck in KEKji's harem despite cucking him with two Bvlls, Americhad and Nuke-sama. Not fair.

>>282041721
That's because they're both Kishibe's bastard babies, of course. Wait until Asa realizes she used to ovulate at the sight of her step-brother

>>282041652
GODyuta please add fami to denji's couch

>>282042007
I hope you realize that you are indirectly saying that Yoshida is a cuckold as well.

>>282042019
>she used to ovulate at the sight of her step-brother
Don't give Fujimoto ideas. You know his into siblingcest, right?

>>282042049
you can only be a cuckold if you are in a relationship with someone

>>282041652
GODyuta, don't do what this >>282042035 anon says. Poor Fami didn't even interact with TURDji, except dragging him around like a trash bag.

>>282041962
>>282041971
>>282041994
Any hope of CSM becoming the next big thing like SnK or JJK is confirmed over if it can't even beat K8. The Reze movie wasn't enough

>>282042051
>You know his into siblingcest, right?
Yeah, and it's based

>>282042035
Good idea

>>282041903
Yoshida is gay,

>>282042084
Yep. It's over. MAPPA killed the csm ip

>>282042079
chu he drew a picture for you recently don't be greedy

>>282042079
DOGji belongs to all the horsefus.

>>282041550
The door from Denji's dream. It was foreshadowing on him opening to door for Makima banging Powy, and him opening the door when his drunk dad was home. The thing is that doors on CSM also symbolize devil realms. Each devil is behind a special door, and each devil door looks different. Hell is full of doors, as we saw in International Assassins' arc, and every devil has a uniquely designed door.

Death devil for example had her door shown on her cover, and the same door appeared again in Falling arc, meaning the realm where Falling sent them was Death's realm. Denji will once again be faced with a door because there's millions of doors in hell, and his job is to follow Pochita's advice and not open it. His last mistake was opening the door for Power's death scene.

>>282042129
Your thread is flopping, Pee

>>282042129
Why are moid fans like this? Constant fanbase dick measuring contests

>>282042123
What?

>>282042129
Axe soon

Chadmoto revolutionized the industry

>>282041981
It always does. That's what happens when you act like an obnoxious attention-whoring tranny 24/7, everyone runs away from you.

>>282042129
see>>282042084

If you don't understand after this then you're unfixable

>>282042085
Sure it is.

lol

>>282042195
I guess that is why there hasn't been any good shonen for half a decade

>>282042049
A cuckold is someone who got dumped/left behind in the dirt/replaced for a new love interest, retard.

There have been a lot of good shonen in recent years, actually.

>>282042253
like what?

>>282042250
said Yoru while wrapping her hand around Denji's cock

>>282041818
Daily Shoseki (Sept 4th)
>1. Kaiju No. 8 #19
>2. Chainsaw Man #22
>3. Black Clover #37
>4. Kinnikuman #89
>5. Girl Meets Rock #8
Grim or not grim?

>>282042199
Remember when he spammed that "he is a lesbian" while posting P&S pics for 2 days?

>>282042297
it would be grim if it sold worse than black clover, this is average

>>282042250
Tsunderu still loves Dogji.

>>282042274
centuria, drama queen, ichi the witch and kagurabachi

>>282042297
>Black Clover
I thought the Axe Devil got this one

>>282042348
>centuria
current arc is boring
>drama queen, ichi the witch and kagurabachi
all flops

creepy asa

>>282042348
Plus Exorcist Fall in Love and Tower Dungeon

>>282042153
>Door schizo returns

>>282042348
Drama Queen fell off from its first chapter premise massively

asa calls you loser, what do you do?

>>282042400
Good

>>282041593
I explained it here >>282042153
In this pic we see a devil's unique door. It could probably be Death devil's because the same door-glass design appeared behind her in her cover image. We also saw thousands of other doors in hell, and every devil is behind one.

>>282042400
The yellow color scheme in Yoshida's cover implies that he blows himself the fuck up.

>>282042423
>

>>282042364
It just got banished to a magazine I can't remember

>>282042423
Blackmail into daily rape

>>282042348
Which one of these will become the next SnK, JJK, or even KnY?
Which one will become the next CSM?

P LOST

>>282042400
What's the problem faggot? It's a fact that in Chainsaw Man every door opens a devil's realm. If someone dies and is sent to limbo, it makes sense for them to be faced with a door. Denji's choice was always between opening or not opening a door. Likely the door he opens will be Control devil's door, and he gets blown the fuck up all over again.

>>282042436
Cool idea that every door is asignated to 1 specific devil.

Asa and Denji's last moments on Earth, as God's light illuminates everything and the New Earth begins.

>>282042084
>>282042208
At this point caring if doesn't reach the same level as JJK or SnK is dumb because CSM in general doesn't have the same level of appeal as those two. Being a modest success is okay sometimes.

>>282042463
>SnK, JJK, or even KnY?
none,all their manga sells poorly. kgb MAYBE could reach part1 level sales after anime boost but even then i doubt it.

>>282042501
The first reply was meant to >>282042208

>>282042484
It appeared that way in International Assassins when Darkness plopped out of a specific door. The door from Denji's dream looks the same as the door behind Makima in her cover image.

>>282042501
>CSM in general doesn't have the same level of appeal as those two
Not in Japan. Part 1 outsold pre-anime JJK, if trigger or Science Saru had adapted csm instead of crappa it would have been bigger than JJK

there's some heavy samefagging happening in this thread

why is whoru like this

>>282042546
hell, even studios like cygames would have served, but crappa's horrible schedules fucked up everything.

>>282042501
>At this point caring if doesn't reach the same level as JJK or SnK is dumb because CSM in general doesn't have the same level of appeal as those two.
Ahh, the reddit cope

>>282042489
Treeji sweet dreams are made of this...

>>282041994
I'm not dumbass. I just told him it doesn't mean anything, because Kaiiju sells in the 300+ k's, meanwhile CSM's last record was 130-140k

>>282042546
I doubt it, i have seen people dropping CSM during Eternity Devil arc and Katana Man arc. Chainsaw Man has multiple aspects that limits the reach of a massive audience like JJK or even K8 have.

>>282042501
CSM didn't even manage to outsell my dress up darling kek

>>282042624
See >>282042084

>>282042546
>Science Saru
Anons called me crazy for wanting Science Saru to get chainsaw man over Mappa. Well look who's laughing now.(and somehow I got the better end of the monkey paw so far).

>>282042655
Ok?

>>282042638
these are just facts anon, csm part 1 sold 480k~ in the last volume

RAPEsa must be contained...

people don't want to buy a manga with a character like Asa in it
that's just the truth

>>282042501
>CSM in general doesn't have the same level of appeal as those two.
>CSM is so deep and experimental that the normies just wont understand it.
Why are Fujimototards like this? CSM is peak mass appeal slop.

>>282042685
Meanwhile by volume 13 JJK was selling 300k~

>>282042707
I'm sorry your thread flopped Pee. Spamming AsaDEAD ain't gonna bring it back from the dead.

>>282042084
The reze movie isn't even out yet
>>282042501
>At this point caring if doesn't reach the same level as JJK or SnK is dumb because CSM in general doesn't have the same level of appeal as those two
If that was the chase mappa themselves would have never bothered to pick up Chainsaw man and retardedly put 100 percent investment into it.

>>282042581
Are you telling me it's "reddit" for outright saying that caring CSM being the next big thing at this point and saying doesn't have a massive appeal? because it had its chance and failed miserably, this is like crying over spilled milk. You have two options which are crying and whining about CSM not being the next thing or shut the fuck up and move on.

>>282042707
Femdom Asa = Thrid hawk

>>282042664
Some people thought the movie was going to save the series, like back to S1 levels or even better. The movie probably won't make that much either

>>282042707
Yogur is going to be a dom

>>282042750
HEROfumi just sent SCATji into hell, so the story might actually recover and become the next big thing again. Never lose hope. I'm not saying it will, I'm just saying the last chapter's final 2 pages were pure CINEMA.

>>282042713
Good job for putting words on my mouth, fucking retard. Because i have never mentioned that CSM was some deep and high IQ manga.

>>282042715
You shouldn't compare it with volume 13 because the anime was airing back then, JJK pre anime (volume 12) sold just above the 250k mark.

>>282042767
I didn't think it would, but I am saying we need to see the actual numbers first. Those come out next week.

>>282042750
It had the potential for mass appeal if the anime and Part 2 weren't garbage. I thought you were implying its content was too niche for mass appeal rather than the content being trash

>>282042713
don't know about that

nakayamaGOD... i kneel, thank you for destroying csm's sales forever

>>282042685
>>282042715
Yeah, but CSM during Part 1 ending had the anime announcement tied to it and JJK doing less pre-anime aren't indicators that would apply during the anime release which we know how that went.

>>282042713
Nta but he’s right, CSM doesn’t really have much normie appeal, doesn’t have to do with it being deep or not

>>282042862
Imbecile, the dragon helped in the sales. Was fujimoto who killed the sales

>>282042743
Honestly it probably won't have that much of an impact or else it would have been released alongside the movie

>>282042829
Sexualbaits are the most mass appeal slop you can ever make, that chapter has highest viewership btw of the whole part2.

>>282042880
>CSM doesn’t really have much normie appeal
retard

I blame p and poo for destroying the threads...

>>282042828
So, you have chosen crying and whine about Chainsaw Man not being the next big thing, then cry more like salty little bitch that his favorite thing didn't become mainstream.

>>282042883
So you're also in the camp of reze herself not returning in the manga?

>>282042919
Good eye, judicator.

>>282042923
You have a point ngtl

>>282042867
>but CSM during Part 1 ending had the anime announcement
JJK's anime was announced 1 year after it started, just like csm, you have no excuses.

>>282042305
i member

>>282042940
It doesn't matter at this point

>>282042640
CSM did outsold it unless you are talking recent volumes, because even my dress up darling anime boost lasted far more time than CSM anime boost ever did.

>>282042882
if the dragon helped the sales then volume 13 would have hit 1 million copies

>>282042967
See >>282042947

>>282042305
Now that you mention it, I remember. I tend to forget abysmally retarded cringe-inducing shit. It's a defense mechanism.

seriously what did he meant by this

>>282042889
>that chapter has highest viewership btw of the whole part2.
No it doesn't, and stuff like that pushes away the "masses", even if the shock factor might implore some people to view that particular chapter.
Hence, why you'd never see something like that in a series like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, DBZ, etc.

>>282042969
i was explicitly talking about the recent volumes, because even romcom slop where the sole plot is will they/won't they fuck had better reader retention rates than shart2

>>282042862
>>282042882
>>282042970
Nakayama was the catalyst for kneecapping its potential. Part 2 was the final nail in the coffin

>>282042973
Is this Pee? What a troon.

>>282043004
Denji's a homo. More news at 11.

>>282043010
>why you'd never see something like that in a series like One Piece, , Naruto, Bleach, DBZ, etc.
Kubo draws fanservice 1000 times better than redditmoto

>>282043004
Homo implications aside
>Ha, you can't manipulate me with pussy
>*manipulates him with grub*

>>282042950
JJK anime had season 1 that was well received in Japan then a prequel movie after the anime ended meanwhile CSM got a season 1 that had mixed reception with the compilation outright fixing the complaints the japanese audience had then 3 years of silence for any sort of sequel. No fucking shit JJK would peform better meanwhile CSM didn't meet expectations.

>>282043004
Denji fantasizes with men (he was raped as a child by the yakuza)

>>282043004
Why is fujimoto so fucking gay

>>282043010
>No it doesn't
It does the stats are publicly available.
> and stuff like that pushes away the "masses"
No it doesn't, Denji's monologue afterwards got mass praise normies eat that the shit up because its "deep".

>>282043071
You don't understand my point, JJK outsold csm precisely because mappa fucked up with the anime, if the license had been given to a better studio CSM would have outsold it

>>282043040
NTA but that fanservice is genuinely tame compared to actual handjob or onscreen lesbian orgy.

>>282042889
>that chapter has highest viewership btw of the whole part2

>>282043090
Tokyo Ghoul had a shit anime and it still sold millions and got a massive boost. CSM is just dogshit and Part 2 was the nail in the coffin.

>>282043040
But you'll never see Yoruichi jerking off Ichigo in a series like Bleach. It's all just teasing and basic fanservice (women being drawn with massive tits and asses).
Not the sort of crude sexual encounters that Fujimoto draws where the dude is left confused what the fuck just happened to him.

>>282043101
>actual handjob or onscreen lesbian orgy
all worthless if the mangaka who draws them doesn't make the girls sexy

>>282043106
I'm pretty sure that image is outdated alongside Jump+ tends to reset viewership count.

>>282043123
Anon, that is just subjective opinion but objectively Kubo never went that far in Bleach.

Saint Valentine's Day chapter when

>>282043121
Yoruichi's fat sexy ass in full view is braver than whatever fujimoto scribbles

>>282043084
You're confusing some Twitter/reddit whackjobs for "the masses".

>>282043126
I trust josu_ke a lot more than you. Besides, how could the hj chapter have more views than the first chapter of Part 2, when everyone was still excited about it?

>>282043114
Tokyo Ghoul anime didn't make the Japanese audience wanting to burn down the studio or wanted the director being gone from the anime.

>>282043152
>subjective opinion
It's an objective fact, if you can't cum to the manga's drawings alone then the mangaka is shit at fanservice

>>282043181
The problem is that he hasn't updated the image again, you are using outdated information.

>>282043189
Newfags shouldnt speak on times they werent here for

>>282043004
He really said fyi out loud

>>282042923
I am saying Part 2 is selling badly because it is bad

>>282043211
Anon, if i wanted to jack off i would just watch porn than cumming over fanservice in a manga book.

>>282043155
>when
Saint Valentine day, presumably

>>282043156
You sound like a kid. I don't think you can really understand the difference of showing some ass (which pretty much every manga does), and having a Devil (who also occupies a girl's body against their will) sexually advancing on a guy.
Showing some Yoruichi ass makes dudes happy
What happened with Denji and Yoru leaves people pretty confused and even depressed to see their MC sink so low. It's not really "fanservice".

>>282043231
See >>282042923

>P shilling Bleach
go back

>>282043247
What is the point of drawing a lesbian orgy if not for fanservice? Fujimoto clearly intended it to be so, it's just that he can't draw sexy women even if his life depended on it

>>282043213
Why would the hj chapter get 6x the amount of views in order to beat ch 98 out of nowhere, when it peaked at ~3 million views by 2 months?

>>282043260
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY GOONSLOP IS LE DEEP BRO, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ME
kill yourself worthless faggot

>>282043214
I know people complained here but Tokyo Ghoul adaptation didn't had the same amount of hatred CSM S1 had in Japan.

>>282043261
So, you accept the series is trash but you're too much of a slop eater to want something better

>>282043287
He isn't saying is deep but you can't understand that tame fanservice isn't same as actual sexual acts.

>>282043287
Like I said, you sound like a kid based on the terminology you're using, so I don't really expect much maturity out of you.
That particular scene wasn't really "goonslop". It's pretty crude stuff, just two people awkwardly making out and having confused feelings over it.
The 193 chappy is a better example of "fanservice". But at this moment the death of Nayuta was still hanging over the head of Denji so it was pretty shocking and ugly to see Denji in a situation like this when the "masses" expected him to go on some type of Nayuta rescue mission.
Anyway, like I said, you're a kid so I don't expect you to understand such things.

>>282043316
I don't base my personality and taste on popularity or sales.

What would happen if all of Ito's monsters emerged in CSM World? Could earth survive?

>>282043342
That has nothing to do with Part 2 being shit

>>282043317
>>282043330
Nigger stop pretending people here thought it was crude or shit like that, i was on here and i read all the mangaplus comments and people were cheering and clapping like porn addicts
>But at this moment the death of Nayuta was still hanging over the head of Denji so it was pretty shocking and ugly to see Denji in a situation like this when the "masses" expected him to go on some type of Nayuta rescue mission.
No one gives a fuck about Nayuta, the last readers csm has only want to see denji fuck

>>282043342
A shart poo enjoyer has no right to call out the taste of others

>>282043260
>>282043330
>What happened with Denji and Yoru leaves people pretty confused and even depressed
You're delusional, the reaction was mostly "giwtwm" and "i want to fuck yoru"

im a part two enjoyer

>>282043414
Reddit...

>>282043414
>Posts something that doesn't happen in part two.

>>282043378
>Moving goalposts
The people who comment on mangaplus are fan of the work already. Try to show the handjob scene or lesbian orgy page to anyone that isn't fan of the series then look at their reaction.

>>282043378
>No one gives a fuck about Nayuta
I do
>the last readers csm has only want to see denji fuck
I still hope he eventually grows as a character

>>282043378
See, the problem here is that you think that the reactions on 4chan's /csm/ (with maybe 12 unique IPs) determine what's appealing to the "masses".
You're just completely losing the plot and shifting goalposts from the original argument which was to point out the fact that scenes like that aren't really appealing to the masses, which is why you never see them in a series that have mass appeal. like One Piece, or DBZ, or other franchises like that.
Yeah, they might appeal to the "last readers csm has" but those aren't the masses.

>>282043409
literally this, what a fucking braindead faggot kek.
>>282043426
>The people who comment on mangaplus are fan of the work already
except it was all over twitter, 4chan and reddit and most of the reactions were like this>>282043409

>>282043432
None of them are gay, reddit nigger

>>282043428
>I do
But you dont matter
>I still hope he eventually grows as a character
>Eventually
Sunk cost fallacy is one helluva drug

Good night I fucking hate Reze

>>282043376
>>282043399
Oh, what is wrong the salty little bitches are crying that CSM didn't became the next big thing? what absolutely pathetic behavior. If you don't like Part 2 then that is your personal opinion and i'm fine with it.

>>282043432
He really hated this one, chief.

>>282043447
How many guys on /csm/ and reddit do you think are buying the volumes?

>>282043444
>scenes like that aren't really appealing to the masses
FANservice draws the masses IN. YOU RETARD. when people see yoru bouncing on denji's cock they want to read it. when people see makima/reze in panties they want to read it, when people see yoru make out with denji they want to read it. that's the point of fan service, you faggot.

>>282043466
Fuck you

Don’t ever forget that Reze will forever remain irrelevant.

>>282043447
Reposted by fans of the series and people that don't represent the masses.

>>282043487
Japan loves fanservice you braindead animal. They aren't buying new volumes because the girls in said fanservice aren't sexy.

>>282043470
You're the one sperging out about us talking about how CSM could have been much more impactful if it was good as if we're personally insulting you

>>282043488
Why do you think you never see Bulma bouncing on Vegeta's cock, or Orihime bouncing on Ichigo's cock, or Hancock bouncing on Luffy's cock, or Hinata bouncing on Naruto's cock?
Because that limits mass appeal. Works that deal with sexuality as a major theme are niche compared to the franchises that have true "mass appeal".

>>282043510
The handjob chapter was the most read chapter of the entire year in the jump+, if that's not the masses then idk what it is

>>282043488
>FANservice draws the masses
If that was the case then Senran Kagura outsell GTA 5 and Mario or High School DxD would outsell One Piece and Dragon Ball.

>>282043492
She is literally getting a movie

>>282043561
>Senran Kagura
lolis are not fanservice to normal people

>>282043528
I'm not even sperging out and you guys act like little children that their favorite thing isn't popular as JJK or SnK.

>>282043466
>>282043492
not like this my baberinos

>>282043539
>Works that deal with sexuality as a major theme are niche
nigger csm was outselling jjk before the anime, you have no arguments here, kill yourself.

>>282043561
the problem is High School DxD only has fanservice to offer. Early dragon ball had both fan service and an adventure plot

>his thread flops
>spams this thread with AsaDung

>>282043666
>bunny outfit bulma
I remember jacking off to that
I wish I was Beejeeta

>>282043606
Then why are you still replying to me if you aren't sperging out? I'm obviously not addressing this to you

Yoshida
>My role is a switch.
Asa
>My role is the executioner.

Perfect teamwork. She did it for her dream.

newfriends here don't know every shonen back then had wild fanservice

I am once again posting that Yoshida = (this) Fakesaw Man.
The "real" Fakesaw Man, the one who killed Yuko and saved AsaDen.
Yoshida is the only one who would have a motive to kill Yuko as she knew of Denji = CSM.
He's going to "switch" into the role of Chainsaw Man.

>>282043786
Fakesaman plot was already solved, stop being delusional.

>>282043623
Denji's sexuality was much less of a theme in P1, you never had him sloppily making out with a Devil on a street corner, or trying to go into a brothel after a member of his family went missing, or crying that his dick leads him to making bad decisions.
Again, all of that stuff was intended to be more depressing than "fanservice".
"Fanservice" would be us just getting a peek of Asa's panties while she's fighting a Devil or something.

>>282043743
Anon, the author of FT is build different.

I miss Part 1 so much it's unreal

>>282043786
He's not brainlet. Yoshida wore white sneakers only 20 minutes before this scene happened. He still wore the same sneakers when he fed Denji blood. This guy is wearing black shoes.

>>282043540
Most chapters from SxF had more views that year

>>282043839
i'm talking about west-only views

>>282043685
he is spamming this thread to bump limit so we use his, classic pee

I genuinely cant imagine being from south america, sounds like hell on earth. Imagine being named pablo with brown skin, turd internet and poor so you have to settle for garbage tech, shitty anime quality and trash game settings, has to settle for their women being turned into prostitutes for the sex trade so John Roberts can have "fun" for a week on his bachelor trip in mexico fucking underage teen pablinas. Needs to deal with crime and cartels everywhere, gov is literally ran by druglords. Might get killed or robbed by some retard on a motorcycle just doing a driveby daily. Has to be americas and chinas cuck for the drug trade. Almost everywhere is a slum, food is insanely dirty and could kill you. Can barely afford to live or get an education, only hopes are to maybe smuggle themselves to america where they might get raped, robbed or killed in the process. Being pablo is truly hell desu.

>>282043824
Still never ever had two characters making out. Not even a kiss.

>>282043863
HOLY TRVKE

>>282043861
It won't work. We'll make a new one.

>>282043817
>Denji's sexuality was much less of a theme in P1
holy brainlet
>you never had him sloppily making out with a Devil on a street corner
people loved that
>trying to go into a brothel after a member of his family went missing
people loved that and called katanaman a real bro for helping denji out
>Again, all of that stuff was intended to be more depressing than "fanservice".
Nigger denji getting a handjob was a massive fanservice.
>"Fanservice" would be us just getting a peek of Asa's panties while she's fighting a Devil or something.

>>282043460
>[DELETED]
Why is P so obsessed with me?

>>282043904
It's an objective fact, no one can read P1 and P2 and think to themselves that Denji's sexuality is given an equal amount of focus in P1 compared to P2.
Again you're only bringing up reddit takes which I'm not particularly interested in.
Like I said,
the masses =/= reddit or /csm/

>>282043904
I clicked send by mistake
>>"Fanservice" would be us just getting a peek of Asa's panties while she's fighting a Devil or something.
Oh you mean like seeing Yoru's ass in thight jeans while she is kneeling?
Or Getting a peak on death's ass when she flips her skirt up?
Or Seeing asa in panties when she fought yuko?
Or Getting a page solely dedicated to denji looking at Asa's ass while she is fighting falling?

>>282043839
Stop posting these retarded ass charts when the literal website called it the most viewed chapter of 2024.

>>282043950
biting asa nipple

>>282043946
>no one can read P1 and P2 and think to themselves that Denji's sexuality is given an equal amount of focus in P1 compared to P2.
Fujimoto is obviously evolving denji's sexual acts to increase the reader's attention retard. But they were still there in part 1, the conclusion of denji's arc in part 1 was that he proudly screamed about how much he wanted to have sex with 10 girlfriends

>>282042765
>>282042792
If Asa is the dominant personality in Yogurt, which she'll likely be, Yogurt will 100% be a dom. Just look at how Asa was at the end of Aquarium.

>>282043951
>she is fighting falling?
*he

yoshida is such a nothing character
get lebowski'd i guess. glorified comic strip, at least it takes no effort to read.

>>282043965
He already clarified it here >>282043849
He said Jump+ when he meant Manga Plus for western views.
Spy x Family's average views still mogged CSM's best chapter in 2024 in Japan, where it matters

>Yogurt
Your fanfics will never happen Pee.

last thing you see

>>282043487
I bought part 1's special editions but I sure as hell ain't spending money on anything p2 related

2 more weeks Babs, volumen cover leak btw

This retard really is trying to convince me people are turned off by the sex things kek, bro that's one of the few things csmid has left

>>282043951
These are much better examples of fanservice, yes. The average reader is fine with getting a peek at the panties, but when the story starts shifting into a work that deals with sexuality on a deeper level, it becomes more niche in its appeal.
The average dude doesn't really want to be made to think what the implications of Denji's sex addiction might be, or how confusing it might be for him to go through a sexual encounter for the first time. They just want to see boobs. They just want to see ass. That's it.
This is why I said Fujimoto's writing style for P2 limits its mass appeal. They don't want to see Denji slumped down in a street corner after sloppily making out with a Devil who is for all intents and purposes the antagonist.
Sure, there's a sizeable niche audience that enjoys that, but its not the mass audience. It's not the "everyman's" fantasy.

>>282044099
>a work that deals with sexuality on a deeper level
>csm
This has to be bait.

>>282044099
>They don't want to see Denji slumped down in a street corner after sloppily making out with a Devil who is for all intents and purposes the antagonist
Nigger that was literally the most popular chapter csm had in years, you have no argument. Kill yourself.

>>282044086
>Cuckji removed
Amazing cover

>>282044139
>Bait
Then why did you take it? Are you stupid?

>>282044086
IT WILL TAKE A WAR

>>282044091
>>282044139
>>282044147
NTA but the handjob chapter didn't move the needle outside of social media nor Denji looking at Death Devil panties and Fumiko nudes did anything. Sexual stuff aren't exactly massive appeal for a bigger audience.

>>282044099
CSM not being mainstream isn't because it's niche. CSM isn't mainstream because it's bad

>>282044238
salescholar....

>>282044214
It's a local peak for viewers
Also, it's progress for denji's stated goal of having sex and getting girlsfriends. It's a rare CSM chapter with character development

Part 2 feels like the kind of series that’s frustrating to read week by week, but will be looked back on fondly once it’s over.

Death to all Salesfaggots

>>282043994
>Fujimoto is obviously evolving denji's sexual acts to increase the reader's attention retard.
If that was the case then Fujimoto would pull a Tokyo Ghoul: RE chapter 125 be done with it because we know he has the balls to do it. I don't buy it that he is doing it for reader's attention.

>>282044214
People don't want to buy it because besides the fanservice csm is worthless, and as a profesional coomer i can safely say the fanservice is of extremely low quality.

>>282044298
Then why retards act like is a big factor if that was the case.

>>282044279
You won't do shit about it

>>282044292
He is obviously saving it for the endgame

>>282044298
Based. Luckily with COOMERji removed now, the story can improve, and maybe with it the sales too.

>>282044139
Compare the way CSM handles sexuality to One Piece, Bleach, JJK, Naruto, DBZ, etc. I'm not saying it's some ultra deep psychological series, yet it's absolutely clear that it treats that particular theme more deeply than the truly massive shonen franchises.
>>282044147
You can't seem to be able to fathom that while shock factor can bring in a good-sized niche audience (that may only look at that one particular chapter), it can also turn away the true mass audience.
Lin and Fujimoto themselves have both pointed out that CSM does not attempt to go for the general Jump audience. Instead, they try to pick some people outside of the expected audience of a Jump manga, to diversify the demographic of the Jump audience.
In specific, Fujimoto referred to his audience as the kind of people who have gotten sick of the expected manga tropes and the lack of ambition by writers, and thus read Fujimoto's works in order to see something that might actually surprise them.

>>282044317
You are such an idiot. The whole fight is because one anon thinks the fanservice is turning people off, when that is exactly the opposite. Fanservice is one of the last few things csm has left. The writing, the drawings, the cast, the pacing, the schedule are all dogshit

Reposting my take on part 2 as someone who read the whole thing for the first time last week

I'd say it's still fun, but its painful because it used to be an 8/10 and now it's a 5/10
Part 2 failed at many things
It failed at rebuilding an interesting cast, Asa being the only real character.
It failed at developing Denji trough Nayuta, he's stuck to his old self forever and Nayuta is dead
It failed at worldbuilding by expanding on the questions the reader had at the end of part 1 about public safety, the nature of pochita, the nature of devils and why they can be redeemed, how Makima came to be as she was and what role the government played in it, even how the fuck Nayuta ended up in Kishibe's hands. Instead, it created even more questions that will never be answered.
It failed at creating interestings villains to string the plot along, Reze, Makima, the assassins, the looming threat of the gun devil, part 1 kept the reader on edge, part 2 just kind of happens, one nonsensical event after the other
It failed at continuing part 1's setup. Denji is not tracking down the blood devil, we never see his highschool shenanigans, and we never see how he actually raises Nayuta. Instead we go on some odd "church of the chainsaw" adventure.

Part 2 feels directionless, empty, devoid of all the characters and tension that made part 1 good.
That is not to say I straight up hate the characters in it, or straight up hate the plot in it, it's still passable, hence a 5 and I will keep reading, but it could have been much better

>>282044354
>You can't seem to be able to fathom that while shock factor can bring in a good-sized niche audience (that may only look at that one particular chapter), it can also turn away the true mass audience.
You are a fucking braindead moron. the thing that turns away the mass audience is that fujimoto puts minimal efforts on making the manga. People love the sex aspects of CSM, as i have already explained with proof over and over.

A lot of sour grapes and seething going on ITT.
Last thread was more fun.

>>282044372
You are fucking retarded because you are exactly saying people only care about fanservice then saying "well CSM fanservice isn't good". Fanservice doesn't fucking sell or work as appeal for a bigger audience.

>>282044326
You are retarded, Amachu.

>>282044440
this thread was made purely out of spite for the powerfag

Can MAPPA fucking stop giving the flatties tits?
Flat kino deserves to exist.

>>282044354
Nah, Part 2 is just bad. That's why it lost 80% of its sales

Jeremy or micro, call it

>>282044483
It's fine like this, flat chest is for enlightened patricians such as you and I, not for the anime watching masses

>>282044446
Yes i am saying csm fanservice isn't good, because fujimoto draws like a 12 year old. But it still attracts the low quality gooners, see all the people that salivated at fami's horribly drawn omake a few days ago
>Fanservice doesn't fucking sell or work as appeal for a bigger audience.
HOLY
FUCKING
RETARDED

EVERY BIG SHONEN HAS FANSERVICE. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

>>282044529
I don't remember jjk having any
Sure, some character like Mei Mei are hot but it doesn't have straight up fanservice.

>>282044503
Mengo...

>>282044526
If Part 2 isn't bad, then why did it lose 80% of its sales in just 8 volumes?

>>282044483
They better not ruin Asa

>>282044546
>I don't remember jjk having any
it had fanservice for fujos

>>282044086
extremely sad cope rezecuck

I feel like I say this every new chappy, but this chappy and two week break is nigh insufferable.
Threads have been the most absolute garbage yet, and that's saddening because the threads already went to shit over the past two years.

>>282044529
You stupid fucking retarded moron, KnY isn't popular because of fucking fanservice. Holy shit what kind of delusional moron you have to be to believe this, KnY fanservice isn't the main focus or main theme of that manga.

You know what would be cool? If the next chapter was another one with 45+ pages like 102, filled with flashbacks and vital decisions. We see how Yoru/Asa and Yoshida met and organized this sting operation on the school, and more importantly why they chose to be in cahoots. It ends with Asa weaponizing Cuckji and the battle against Death devil begins. We have 4 hybrids + Fami + Death and her other pokemon against Yoru and whomever else is on her side besides Yoshida. A refreshing chapter that has both action, emotional flashbacks and meaning. But I fear we might get another 15 pages of nothing but copy-pasted reaction faces with characters just standing around talking.

>>282044478
And now powerfag is ruining it by being a debbie downer and shitflinging with Micro.

>>282044372
That's a misrepresentation of the argument. Innocent fanservice can help sell a manga, but that's not really what Fuji's so-called "fanservice" is about. It's rarely the type of fanservice that leaves the average reader feeling good about it while the manga moves on like nothing happened, as is the case in most manga.
Those moments end up having consequences on the events of the story and the MC's psyche. He's just spiraling deeper and deeper down because of this so-called "fanservice".
That's not really something that the mass audience looks forward to reading. They don't want to think that it's bad for the protagonist to get a grope of boobs and some ass.

>>282044575
>KnY isn't popular because of fucking fanservice.
I never said this you stupid retard. My whole point is that fanservice isn't a "turn off" like some morons here claim it is. It's what catches the attention of the main audience: horny teenagers/young adults

It's Jeremy lmao

>>282044440
The entire thread feels like a bunch of faggots being butthurt that their favorite series didn't became the next big thing and can't accept their series being moderate success. Like crying about it or shitting on Part 2 isn't going magically make CSM super popular like SnK, KnY or JJK during their peak popularity.

>>282044588
When has there ever been a 45+ page chapter in anything but a monthly manga?

>>282044622
>It's rarely the type of fanservice that leaves the average reader feeling good about it
Literally every single chapter when anything sexual happens "OMG SEX SEX SEX! SHES SO HOT, LOOK AT THAT ASS!"

>>282044622
>It's rarely the type of fanservice that leaves the average reader feeling good about it
yeah because his drawings are ugly, it's still decent enough for the masses though.
>They don't want to think that it's bad for the protagonist to get a grope of boobs and some ass.
Because it's not you stupid retard, denji's whole problem is that he has a fucking devil in his heart so people want to kill him for it. Sex is one of the few joys he has in his shitty life.

>>282044683
Chapter 102 in Part 2.

>>282044588
>If the next chapter was another one with 45+ pages like 102
Yeah, it's called the Reze comeback

>>282044629
KnY didn't became popular with kids, teenagers, adults and old people because of fucking fanservice and most talk of KnY during serialization was the story.

>>282044683
Also chapter 98, but that was the opening chapter so it's an exception.

>>282044565
NTA but only in the anime, the manga was lacked any fujo fanservice.

>>282044677
Losing 80% percent of your sales isn't exactly a moderate success
Imagine buying a stock that lost 80% of its value from its peak

>>282044695
>Because it's not you stupid retard, denji's whole problem is that he has a fucking devil in his heart so people want to kill him for it. Sex is one of the few joys he has in his shitty life.
You're dumb as a bag of fucking hammers if you don't see how Fuji is portraying Denji's uncontrolled lust as a bad thing. It makes him vulnerable to being exploited, and it makes him act irresponsible towards the people that actually love him.
His obsession with sex has made him give up on things that did bring him happiness.
It's not sex in itself that is portrayed as bad, but Denji's lust and his lack of self-control.
But again, this is not really something that the masses care to read about. They'd rather see Denji bringing down badass Devils while getting the odd peek at Asa's ass and Falling's bouncing breasts.

>>282044743
the anime is what made JJK popular

Friendly reminder

>>282044754
Yes, I like when the setup of part 1 is used properly
That said, not "around the world", Denji has school first.

>>282044703
Not a weekly drawn manga. Was drawn during a 1½ year hiatus, which is why parts of it were leaked well in advance.
Do you really think anyone's going to draw 45 pages with that quality in a week?

>>282044715
You unironically think Reze caused the explosion? Bab, listen, if Reze was responsible, there would have been no need for Yoshida to be there. Yoshida acted as a "switch" to the attack, and Reze does not need that, but Yoru does because she cannot simply enter the building and chit-chat with Denji when she's the main opponent they're expecting to fight. They needed someone who could enter without the danger of being immediately attacked, someone who could get very close to Denji physically and act as a switch for weaponization. Reze has nothing to do with this gimmick.

how powerfull is the white devil?

>>282044754
Yes, we wanted Part 2 to be better

>>282044764
>and it makes him act irresponsible towards the people that actually love him.
there is no one that actually loves him because fujimoto killed them all, and they all died because makima/death wanted them death. His cock had nothing to do with it.
>>282044724
I mean obviously not, but fanservice draws people in, that's the whole point of it.

>>282044786
He had a 100 break weeks time to draw bigger chapters on the side. We're in a break week now.

>>282044793
It got nerfed by the white guilt devil that the West bought into

>>282044802
>wanted them death
wanted them dead*

>>282044744
Stop thinking about the manga sales and decline for 1 second and look the bigger picture. Chainsaw Man is moderately successful as franchise and manga, it's already in best selling manga of all time and the anime makes money even if isn't doing JJK numbers. Shueisha don't survive with just the manga volume sales alone and make different things for their series to make any profits.

>>282040962 (OP)
There's no choice for Den anymore. Last chapter Yoshida and the PS have decided to eliminate him for good. In the end they only want Pochita. Den might be really permakilled this time.

>>282044780
Part 1 never set up that.

>>282044819
Yes and he drew Reze art and a mini Reze chappy for movie-goers during that week.
Fuji drew with autistic fervor for P1 because his only joy in life is to go to movie theaters, and COVID blocked him from doing that.
You'll never see him doing that again.

>>282044792
>You unironically think Reze caused the explosion?
No, I think she will come back however

>>282044832
Part 1 is a moderate success, the rest of CSM is riding off its coattails

>>282044873
Maybe, but not this arc though.

>>282044832
>it's already in best selling manga of all time
Mmm?

>>282044780
Those were not supposed to be setup. Those were the tragedies of pt1. Reze never went to school. Nayuta changed for better but still dead by the hands of her followers. Power can never be retrieved. Fujimoto is no happy go lucky power of friendship generic writer.

>>282044849
Yeah, it did
It ended with Denji taking care of Nayuta, having promised Power to find her, and going to fight a devil while in a high school uniform.

>>282044895
I forgot put list there.Obviously manga like JJK and OP are above of CSM.

>>282044907
>Fujimoto is no happy go lucky power of friendship generic writer.
I never said those setups had to have a happy ending, part 1 is tragic, just that they had to be used
He didn't use his own setups, and part 2 is dogshit that doesn't sell as a result

>>282044563
Why can't it be that those 80% was the bad one instead? Because they're more crowded so they must be right? Loll

>>282044846
>and the PS
Asa or Yoru did that with Yoshida. Yoshida is PS in this scenario, he acts on their behalf, meanwhile Yoru is the ally Yoshida was trying hard to win over at the very start of this arc. I believe he succeeded, but as always it happened off screen, because this attack was definitely orchestrated by Yoru. We know because Death and Miri said how Yoru would be there any minute, and when Yoshida approached the school both horseman reacted to his presence. They don't care for Yoshida or Octopus, but Yoshida's presence signified Yoru's presence.

>>282044853
No luck then. 15 pages of characters standing around talking is what we'll get.

>>282044877
You are stupid because CSM can't be "riding off Part 1 coattails" due Part 1 and 2 being the same manga. Also the japanese don't give shit about previous successes otherwise ask Kishimoto and Squid 8.

>>282044942
>Why can't it be that those 80% was the bad one instead?
ESLgod at least make sure your post makes sense before hitting submit.

>>282044978
>. Also the japanese don't give shit about previous successes otherwise ask Kishimoto and Squid 8.
Except Part2 is sold as a direct continuation of Part1, so the readers want to see how denji ends up.

>>282044947
Stop forcing Asa and Yoru as ally of Yoshida and Public Safety, they aren't working with them and Yoshida is been shown to be a lapdog of PS. Asa nor Yoru have any reason to attack and kill Denji.

>>282045012
Because it's the same fucking manga, they aren't treated as separate works.

Apparently whip hybrid (?) appears next chapter according to chinese leaker D.n

>>282045052
>whip hybrid (?
Oh lord...

>>282045033
So what? GoT is all the same works and yet seasons 1-6 are considered master pieces and seasons 7-8 are hated by everyone, Most people agree JJK fell off after shibuya arc despite being the same manga, etc.

>>282044939
>his own setups
There's no setup here. In Fuji's worlds, what are planned never means they will be done or accomplished. Fuji likes his stories to be realistic in that aspect.

>>282045052
the last time i heard chinese "leakers" making predictions, they were full of shit

>>282045052
who?

>we will never see the aging primal fight impeccably animated by the DRAGON
The "fans" fucked up so bad

>ITT: Salesfaggots meltdown
It seems a lot of people resented over the fact that CSM didn't became the next big thing. Like just accept it and move on.

>>282045089
>1-6
Real scholars know seasons 5 and 6 were dogshit as well though

>>282045110
yeah, people here will do anything to cope about it, they even pretend the jerk off chapter was a turn-off for readers kek

>>282044981
Esl or not my post still makes sense. Majority is not always right it's a proven fact.

>>282045095
>In Fuji's worlds, what are planned never means they will be done or accomplished
And he clearly made the wrong choice
>Fuji likes his stories to be realistic in that aspect
Yeah, part 2 is just too realistic, that's why people don't like it. Too much hard realism.

>>282045089
Except they aren't riding on coattails of their previous seasons or arcs because it doesn't work like that.

>>282045109
not too interested in seeing cgi slop pochita and aging

>>282045143
No it didn't, the 1st line was confusing-

>Movie kino
>Omake kino
>Absolute seethe
Rely makes u thunk

>>282045151
It does work like that, it is literally what happened, star wars sequels only sold because people loved the franchise

>>282045129
I found it funny with people malding over that, because i personally believe even with a perfect season 1 CSM wouldn't be a big next thing. Like seething over Part 2 and decline is plain pathetic behavior in general.

>>282044947
This anon is right >>282045017. I don't think AsaRu involved in this operation either. They might be busy looking for Nuke now. This is all PS's work. They want to eliminate Denji and snatch Pochita.

doesn't wipe so the cake has frosting too
yum yum yum

>>282045192
true, even with a perfect season 1, shart poo being shart poo would have turned off the vast majority of new readers anyways

Yoshize was the true endgame right here bros

>>282045180
>star wars sequels only sold because people loved the franchise
You have to be underage because people fucking hated the prequels when they came out with mainstream media making fun of them, this coming from someone who liked Revenge of the Sith when it came out. The prequel trilogy nor sequel trilogy received any love for them from part of the public with the prequel having nostalgia for it. Star Wars prequels and sequels sold due fanboys and brand recognition.

>>282044683
there was a 2 week break before and after this chapter so this one counts as monthly

i always say this to stupid Denji haters.
Dude had every single reason to turn into a horrible person, i wouldn't judge if he did.
99% of the people he met wants to kill him or manipulate him.
The ones that did care about him all died.
He had an horrible childhood and upbringing, being a slave to the Yakuza that didn't even fed him properly.
>Yet, he's still a good person.

>>282045292
That's still a biweekly pace.

>>282045221
I mean, yeah.
The popularity of the anime is irrelevant when it comes to people who are already reading the manga dropping it, and Part 2 has one of the fastest declines ever.

>>282045273
do you think i don't fucking know about how everyone hated jar jar binks or how they called midiclorians retarded and how they called the attack of the clones the worst thing ever made? That's not my point, my point is the sequels sold because the original trilogy was popular, just like how part2 sells only because part 1 is popular

>>282045297
>i always say this to stupid Denji haters.
I doubt you tell it to 75.4% of Japan's reader base

>>282045221
>>282045310
Nah, even with Part 2 never existing or appealing to everyone CSM was never going to be big seller like JJK. That is what i personally believe regardless of the anime or manga popularity.

>>282045364
Then you are personally retarded because CSM pre-anime and pre-part2 was outselling pre-anime JJK by a 200k margin

>>282045321
No, it sold because of fanboys and brand recognition due Star Wars especially when episode 7 came out was seen as a franchise for old dudes. The original trilogy barely played a role on it.

>>282045345
Japan loves Denji what are you talking about

>>282045403
>came out was seen as a franchise for old dudes
>The original trilogy barely played a role on it.
low iq poster oh my fauci

>>282045407
In bizarro world perhaps.

>>282045386
Pre-anime aren't exactly a indicator on how a series will perform after the anime releases like for example Assassination Classroom barely got any anime boost despite being 1 million seller pre-anime.

yuko!

>>282045273
>You have to be underage because people fucking hated the prequels when they came out with mainstream media making fun of them, this coming from someone who liked Revenge of the Sith when it came out.
NTA but he might have been referring to the OT because the sequels were a continuation to them. Besides people who were born when RoTS came out are 20 now
>The prequel trilogy nor sequel trilogy received any love for them from part of the public with the prequel having nostalgia for it. Star Wars prequels and sequels sold due fanboys and brand recognition.
You're kind of proving my point. Due to the good will the earlier parts built up, people were invested into it and then it fell off. It's funny how Part 2 and the sequels are similar in ruining their respective franchises

>>282045419
It's a fucking fact, kids don't give any shit about Star Wars and the original trilogy.

>>282045448
1 million seller is the top of the building, you can't go further than that, especially on such a regular setting like assclass

>>282045420
The Death Devil and Falling Sales Devil brought the sales apocalypse.

Keep seething about part2. Fuji will keep doing what Fuji wants to do. Now prepare for multiple chapters of YoshiAsa for the rest of the manga now that Denji is dead for good. Thx PS !

>>282045478
When AC came out, the ceiling was far higher and 1M was okay.

>>282045407
>Japan loves denji
Also Japan:
>Votes for every other main cast member over Denji in popularity poll
>Lets CSM Anime flop
>Drops part 2 when Denji returns
>Will let CSM: Reze movie flop

>>282045420
>part 2 is a 100 chapter long humiliation ritual for Denji
>80%+ of the readers drop it
Yeah, they like Denji.

>>282045493
Yuckshitacuck is dead whale, i am happily waiting for the fat ass pics
>>282045515
doubt it because MHA, JJK and SNK never oversurpassed the 1 million mark

>>282045474
>NTA but he might have been referring to the OT because the sequels were a continuation to them. Besides people who were born when RoTS came out are 20 now
Only the prequels had OT "goodwill" yet were butt of joke for years.
>You're kind of proving my point. Due to the good will the earlier parts built up, people were invested into it and then it fell off. It's funny how Part 2 and the sequels are similar in ruining their respective franchises
Are you the same person or what? If Part 2 had the so called "goodwill" of Part 1 then it wouldn't suffer from any decline, you aren't proving shit at all.

>>282045420
Theyre clearly punishing trannymoto for making such an obvious woman gud men bad manga

>>282045532
More like the japanese drop it because denji became an unlikeable braindead gooner

>>282045493
>multiple chapters of YoshiAsa
Canon Yoshiasa would enrage Denjifags, Yoshidafujos, and some Asafags. Fujimoto doesn't have the balls, Chu

>>282045523
>Will let CSM: Reze movie flop
I really appreciate that you committed suicide by adding that point to your argument, it saves me a lot of time.

>>282045578
the lowest scum in the series are always women though. and they always suffer horrible ends.

>>282045523
NTA
>Votes for every other main cast member over Denji in popularity poll
That is literally common thing, like there are side characters with higher ranking than MC in other series.
>Lets CSM Anime flop
Because they fucking hated season 1 of CSM, it had nothing to do with Denji. Denji is used as example on how MAPPA fucked up the anime.
>Drops part 2 when Denji returns
Denji returned in the 5th chapter and next volume is the best selling volume of the entire manga.
>Will let CSM: Reze movie flop
They literally liked the new direction.

>>282045603
You mean fanfic, Yoshida.

>>282045569
>Only the prequels had OT "goodwill" yet were butt of joke for years.
People still enjoyed Star Wars enough to want to see the sequels until Disney killed the series
>Are you the same person or what? If Part 2 had the so called "goodwill" of Part 1 then it wouldn't suffer from any decline, you aren't proving shit at all.
I'm the anon that you were talking to before star wars was brought up.
Part 2 HAD good will because it was a direct sequel to Part 1. People initially looked forward to it until Part 2 kept getting worse over time. Part 2 lost that good will. I don't see how you can't comprehend this. It's simple to understand

>>282045667
>That is literally common thing,
it is only a common thing among mangas with a weak main character

You faggots act like little kids throwing a tantrum that their favorite show isn't popular.

>>282045700
That is incredibly retarded argument, because there been other manga have their MC never touching 1st place nor entering the top 5, hell a good exampe is the last poll of KnY.

I accept your concession

>>282045603
more like Fuji just never really gave a fuck about Yoshida.

Fujimoto: If I accomplished that, then good. I thought that depicting each one's emotions would cause more emotion when they died, I did that consciously. So I'm not actually that attached to the characters, myself. Drawing Power was fun, but the other characters... I was aware they all exist to serve the story, so I didn't especially like them.

>>282045697
>People still enjoyed Star Wars enough to want to see the sequels until Disney killed the series
Because people were tired of Lucas after the prequels burned out everyone, it had nothing to do with goodwill.
>Part 2 HAD good will because it was a direct sequel to Part 1. People initially looked forward to it until Part 2 kept getting worse over time. Part 2 lost that good will. I don't see how you can't comprehend this. It's simple to understand
Again, it had nothing to do with goodwill otherwise Part 2 wouldn't suffer from the decline in sales when Falling Devil arc started especially when Sequel Trilogy made shit ton of money at the box office due fanboys alone. You shouldn't die in this hill.

>>282045744
Everyone knows Tanjiro is a pretty dull and boring MC so idk why you brought him up

The schizos and shitposters are now back with the salesfagging due the movie coming out, how boring.

>>282044621
this is my first post barely readable in this thread

>>282045862
we could have been discussing the kino omake animation and making fun webms but no, gotta have a schizo babble rerun

>>282041535
IS THIS REAL?!!?!?!!

YET WE GET ANOTHER >>282041535
BREAK WEEK!!!!!!!!!!

>>282045862
Reze always causes seethe, that's understood.

>>282045807
Why did Part 2 sell 507K copies with vol 13 and then lose 80% of its sales?

>>282045017
>>282045197
I did not see a single argument in your post. I however presented multiple arguments. Would Death and Fame react to Yoshida? No faggot. They only react to War, and Miri said War would be there any minute.

You're just seething because you have no actual intelligent argument to disprove what I said.

>>282045862
I only started salesfagging because a faggot started arguing about the handjob chapter being a turn-off for readers

>>282045842
And even then he still got 1st on the first popularity poll, which Denji has never done. That guy is a massive retard.

My dick gets hard thinking in Asas inevitable mindbreak.

>>282045889
Due the anime boost, duh.

>>282045893
I started arguing about the HJ chap because someone said it was the most read chapter in Jump+ for 2024 because he was wrong. Then he clarified his mistake

My pussy gets wet thinking of Yoshida's inevitable lack of clothes.

I wonder what the cope will be when the Reze movie doesn't magically save the franchise...

>>282045926
Are you saying the anime boost ending is the only reason why Part 2 sales have dropped?

>>282045958
Movies don't really do that, animated series do. I don't think the movie will boost it.

>>282045885
It's only going to get worse as the movie approaches.

Asa doesn't find Yoshida attractive

>>282045968
Don't forget the incoming nuBabs

Everyone finds Yoshida attractive, even other dudes and Denji.

>>282045893
The argument was about how your so-called "goonslop" and "fanservice" gets framed in CSM compared to the dime-a-dozen shonenslop where it's just tits and ass shots with no further meaning or consequence.
Denji's sex addiction and its spiraling effect on his life, are an integral part of the story, particularly in p2, which is not necessarily the type of story that the masses are looking to read.
It's not a "feel-good moment" when the MC is distracted from his search for a daughter figure by going to a brothel and then sloppily making out with a Devil.

>incoming movie
>new csm animation just released
>instead of getting happy schizos get angry
Lmao why are they like this

It's unfortune that Part 2 lost the goodwill that Part 1 built up, even with an anime boost.

>>282045995
You can tell by these panels that Asa was already pondering how his dick tastes.

>>282046056
that's why they're called schizos. they thrive in misery, and misery loves company.

>>282046056
Yoshida mindbreaks

>>282045975
We can be friendly with them, right?

>>282044793
Why is his head shaped like balls?

>>282046054
>It's not a "feel-good moment" when the MC is distracted from his search for a daughter figure
No one cared ot was turned off by that scene. Not Japan. Not reddit. Not twitter. Not mangaplus. Not Fujimoto. Only schizos on /csm/.
>sloppily making out with a Devil
Every single straight chainsaw man reader loved that scene.

>>282046054
>which is not necessarily the type of story that the masses are looking to read.
Yes it is, you're a retard stop being such a pseud.

>>282046099
Shoot on sight.

>>282046056
Some anons don't like other anons talking about how the Reze movie won't save the series and how Part 2 being bad is the main reason for this

Part 2 waifushitters are afraid of a Part 1 stacy eclipsing them in a single panel

>>282044379
Many are saying this

>>282046056
>don't care for Reze
>just an omake
>break week

>>282045206
What do you mean? Cake already has frosting, what kind of frosting is Power putting on it?

>>282046119
The price of Bab-dom is steep

Do the other primal devils understand his speech? Do they find him scary or think he's autistic?

>>282044379
I agree
Still the most fun ongoing shonen to follow

>>282044379
I kinda agree but I'm gonna be honest that compared to todays manga this is easily a seven. A five is never worth reading.

>>282046205
Blood devil understands him. It was instant attraction.

>>282046212
What's your opinion on one piece and SxF?

>>282046109
>No one cared ot was turned off by that scene.
Nta but you are clearly missing his point here lowiq bro.

>>282046230
>warm piss
shit
>SxF
Fun, comfy, cute

Is Drawbab going to do a commemorative drawing for the movie?

You guys saw those mini animation shorts released today?

>>282045419
>oh my fauci
Dr, Fauci?

A girl who's just perfect

>>282046235
the point here is that "readers were not looking to read that scene" when in reality no one gave a shit, everyone just brushed it off.

>>282046223
Part2 is hardly worth reading. We are here for the sunken cost, without the part1, part2 would have been axed long ago.

>>282046109
Yet the next volume absolutely cratered in sales because the casuals didn't get their happy reunion with Nayuta, and instead Denji was left a depressed mess struggling to find a reason to keep going.
You have to be completely out for lunch if you still can't understand that the vibe of P2 just isn't appealing to a "casual audience".
>>282046116
Literally everything points away from that.

>>282046258
No. No one cares about that shit in here except power-troon. They should have released that shit back when s1 aired. Now it's too late to care about crappy animated omakes.

>>282046252
Id bet on it
>>282046258
Yes, pure kino

>>282046269
Shes too humanized here, the DRAGON captured her better

>>282046269
Darkness agrees. Denji doesn't.

>>282046278
>Yet the next volume absolutely cratered in sales
Every single volume craters in sales, this isn't exactly an exclusive thing that happened after nayuta died.

>>282046272
You completely missed his point.

>>282046269
>>282046291
Der cutest

>>282046269
That entire scene was pure sex and she's isn't even my top 5.
>>282046279
Lol, that mini series had more soul than anything in Season 1s animation. Actually gives me hope for the movie and second season.

>>282046258
Yeah they were pretty fun
I was happy to see Himeno again
The first 2 were nice to reinforce how much of a hobo Denji is
Power one was funny

>>282046252
It's been so long but I would appreciate his return even if only temporarily

>>282046311
>Actually gives me hope for the movie and second season.
Which was the point of them really, get back the disappointed fans

>>282046307
He tries to paint that scene as some mega dark moment in denji's sexuality that everyone despised when 99.999% of people did not gave a shit

>>282046278
Why don't you think it appeals to a casual audience despite it being popular on reddit?

>>282046322
Nice Himeno ass too
Denji and Pochita cake is making the rounds, he's our poor hero

>>282046328
In fact one chapter after that happened yoru jerked him off and everyone was cheering and clapping for them and begging fujimoto to let them fuck.

CSM part 2 feels way too silly these days. Very little stakes left.

Not sure what Fuji can do at this point other than quickly end up. The romance is not very good, there are no stakes, and there's 0 character development for the MC.

Nothing is happening.

>>282046326
>get back the disappointed fans
That's the problem. People don't re-watch shit they already watched just because you released it with extra omake shorts. They fucked up by not releasing that shit when the iron was hot. It's like crushing an ecstasy tablet and spreading it through the chicken feeder - it's wasted material.

I enjoyed these shorts more the the entire 12 episode season 1

>>282046378
Denji's dead and weaponized next chapter. There's your stakes.

>>282046379
>rewatch
>new animation
Dont reply to me retard

>>282046275
Even if one doesn't like how the story's panned out, some of the chapters are still completely fucking insane. At least Part 2 isn't boring, which is the worst sin for any manga or book.

>>282046325
You're in for something a lot worse... ;)

>>282046235
No he didn't.
>>282046278
The sexy girls constantly throwing themselves at the MC but hes just a damaged boy that deep down just wants love, is not "deep" filter for the "masses" you pretend it is. The sales falling are result of bad art, pacing and writing.

>>282046378
Fuji really should kill Denji already.

>>282046378
>Not sure what Fuji can do at this point
I'm sure he can fit in a few more Yoshida last page fakeout deaths.

>>282046393
No one cares except you, Pee.

>>282046379
It's trending on twitter right now. The entire mini scenes are freely available to watch.

>>282046420
How does this affect sales?

The Reze movie will BOMB

>>282046355
>In fact one chapter after that happened yoru jerked him off and everyone was cheering and clapping
One chapter after nobody had the context of what was really happening.

>>282046403
He will. First thing next chapter. Bet.

>>282046438
Were they not paying attention? That part of the story was pretty simple.

>>282046437
...because it is about BOMB-BOMB-kun, who goes BOOM!

>>282046391
>>282046403
>>282046439
This kills part 2 immediately and not in a good way. Your shitposting is so stale.

>>282046435
>salesfaggotry

>>282046438
>One chapter after nobody had the context of what was really happening.
Áre you implying everyone recontextualized the handjob chapter because nayuta died? NO ONE OUTSIDE OF THIS SHITHOLE CARED. NO ONE.

>>282046395
>At least Part 2 isn't boring
50-50. Most of the time nothing happens. Denji always bores me to death but there are some interesting things happening with other characters.

>>282046454
But twitterfaggotry is good?

>>282046396
Draw bab?

>>282046395
>Part 2 isn't boring
part 2 is very boring, that's what negative stakes do to a manga

>>282046453
shart 2 is literally ending soon. less than 10 chappies are left

>>282046466
Yes.

Part 3 will be about aliens

>>282046492
Aliens are demons after all

>>282046492
Part 3 will be post nuclear Armageddon.

>>282046488
I guess I would cope with engagement on twitter too if I was butthurt about Part 2's low sales

>>282046459
>Áre you implying everyone recontextualized the handjob chapter because nayuta died?
Yes that is what Fujimoto did, and even back then most of you didn't understand what was happening long after the Aging arc ended. You guys really though Denji was going to get better and this was going to turn into an AsaDen Shojo.

>>282046501
Part 3 is Fire Punch

>>282046306
Percentage-wise, it was more massive than any other drop in the series history.
>>282046329
Reddit isn't a measurement of anything. Especially when it comes to the Japanese audience that actually buys the volumes.
>>282046400
>The sexy girls constantly throwing themselves at the MC
That's not really what's happening. He's just getting screwed over and over by his sex addiction. He never has a genuine moment of receiving affection from someone without them immediately looking to take advantage.
The masses want moments of triumph, P2 very, very rarely offers any of them. Which is the opposite of fanservice.

Non-shitwertard thread is up.

>>282046453
Its not shitposting, this story became stale and offers nothing of value anymore. Realistically, the only way to deliver a climax as good as the deaths of Aki and Power is to kill Denji.

Who do you think is Chainsaw Man's audience?

>>282046544
So, it appeals to a casual Western audience but not a Japanese one will actually buy things?

>>282046565
Agreed.

>>282046516
>Yes that is what Fujimoto did,
But no one gave a shit, which is the whole point of this conversation. you said and quote
>It's not a "feel-good moment" when the MC is distracted from his search for a daughter figure by going to a brothel and then sloppily making out with a Devil.
But no one gave a shit denji got distracted, no one cared, no one even bothered to reanalyze those chapters, the only people who did are the schizos here who want to present denji as the villain
>>282046544
>Percentage-wise, it was more massive than any other drop in the series history.
Prove it then. Before i pull out excel and i do it myself
>He's just getting screwed over and over by his sex addiction
Nigger he is an immortal demigod "screwed over" my ass, he got free nudes and a whore grinding her ass on his cock.

>>282046496
Says who?

>>282046589
>But no one gave a shit,
>But no one gave a shit denji got distracted, no one cared, no one even bothered to reanalyze those chapters

Yes my point is that most of the people reading this are pretty much braindead/super casual, at least the ones that are vocal in social media.

>>282046644
lurk moar

>>282046647
And why are you even arguing? The whole point of this conversation is that csm's goonslop has mass appeal

2sissies are scared of babs

>>282046589
>Prove it then. Before i pull out excel and i do it myself
Don't need an excel to do such easy math. Sales dropped from 200k to 153k.

>>282046724
>Don't need an excel to do such easy math
Apparently you do. Because you are wrong.

>>282046760
Yeah? The post-Nayuta death volume sales dropped by 21.1%. What do you think I was referring to?

>>282046724
>>282046760
I'm not either of you guys but I wanted to provide week 4 numbers up to vol 21

>Chainsaw Man #12 (426,671)
>Chainsaw Man #13 (507,532)
>Chainsaw Man #14 (425,019)
>Chainsaw Man #15 (345,220)
>Chainsaw Man #16 (293,957)
>Chainsaw Man #17 (243,658)
>Chainsaw Man #18 (207,669)
>Chainsaw Man #19 (187,295)
>Chainsaw Man #20 (143,811)
Chainsaw Man #21 (133,165)

>>282046831
And here are the full sales. Vol 20 cratered, that's well known. The depressing turns of events obviously played a part.

>>282046815
That was the post Fumiko one actually. It was the one that featured the aging devil arc, one of the worst arcs in Part 2

>>282046815
post nayuta is 17-18 and 18-19, 19-20 are a year after nayuta's death got confirmed

>>282040962 (OP)
Yoshida is death, Denji is alive.

>>282046879
Aging devil was kino as fuck, wtf anon

>>282046938
redditor begone

>>282046879
>>282046889
Nayuta's head is displayed on a platter at the end of vol 19.
The retards on /csm/ somehow believe that the sales aren't affected by the events of the previous volume. That's what the readers are going to buy the next volume for, based on whether the events of the previous volume were satisfying or not.
They clearly weren't too happy with the depressing direction of vol 19 and the sales of vol 20 show that.

>>282046815
>japanese people were reading CSM because of a loli
Lol, lmao. Not surprising the manga is much more popular internationally.

>>282046963
>this manga done by an author who loves killing characters is too depressing
Why are these people reading a Fujimoto manga in first place?

>>282047018
because they saw their boy Denji get some triumphs throughout P1 despite all the suffering.
In P2 he doesn't get jackshit.
P2 is more of a pure Fujimoto work, where he obviously stopped giving much of a fuck whether people like it or not.

>>282046963
You have completely derailed the debate faggot, this wasnt about if nayuta's death was relevant at the sales declines or not, it was about goonslop being appealing to normal readers

>>282046963
>Nayuta's head is displayed on a platter at the end of vol 19.
Ugh..... can someone refute this for me? I tried but it seems like this is true...

>>282046963
Nice job scholar. You won.

>>282047064
yeah, and i called you a fool for thinking that this is the type of "goonslop" that appeals to mass audience.
they want some tits and ass.
they don't want some guy crying over his dick, being manipulated over and over, turning away from his loved ones to chase for girls, admitting he's only a hero because of sex addiction, etc.
that's not "fanservice" for the average reader. that's more like torture, especially when it keeps happening without seemingly any end in sight.

>>282046963
Chapter 171 (Nayuta's head) is in the middle of vol 19 and released on 17 July 24. Vol 18 released on 2 Aug 2024. Vol 19 itself released on 4 December 24.
Vol 20 released on 4 April 25 with the dogshit aging devil arc. The shitty arc ended on 15 Jan 25. The aging devil arc had the biggest effect on sales

>>282047101
stop samefagging makimakek

>>282047101
>>282047091
See >>282047136

>>282046760
>Asa's volume is the biggest decline
>Famine's is the smallest
Japan has spoken.

>>282047054
>P2 is more of a pure Fujimoto work
And that's a good thing.

>>282047125
> turning away from his loved ones to chase for girls, admitting he's only a hero because of sex addiction, etc.
But literally no one gives a fuck about any of this, i browse every single plataform you could ever think of and only /csm/ complains because you are a butthurt nayuden/yoshiasa shipfaggot who wants to make denji look bad.

>>282047136
again, only on /csm/ people are stupid enough to believe that the content of the previous volume has no impact on the readers' decision to buy the next volume.
obviously it does.
the content in volume 19 had an impact on volume 20 sales. the buyers of the volume aren't all going to know in advance what the events of that volume were going to be like.
they just saw that the story was getting too bleak/unappealing for them and dipped out.

>>282047167
That's a brutal refutation, thanks boss.

>>282047184
i agree btw, i'm simply pointing out that P2 is pretty far from fanservice apart from a handful of moments at best.
>>282047197
i couldn't give a fuck about any of that, i just look at the facts. people are obviously not overly enthralled that "their boy" from p1 is getting dragged through the mud, and that their hopes of him becoming some type of family man were brutally crushed.
yoshida i barely even know who the fuck that is, the guy who blew himself up last chappy? total nobody, has no relevance to anything.

>>282047220
>the buyers of the volume aren't all going to know in advance what the events of that volume were going to be like
90% of csm's readers read it online

>>282047220
People had 3 months to digest how bad the aging arc was. You had comments being removed on Jump+ complaining about it. You really think Nayuta's death around 9 months before the vol had more an effect on vol 20 than how bad the aging arc was that's featured in it?

>>282047220
People had 3 months to digest how bad the aging arc was. You had comments being removed on Jump+ complaining about it. You really think Nayuta's death around 9 months before the vol had more of an effect on vol 20 than how bad the aging arc that's featured in it did?

>>282047267
>that P2 is pretty far from fanservice
dude it's pure goonslop, read the manga
>that their hopes of him becoming some type of family man were brutally crushed.
Nayuckta is very irrelevant, 3 chapters after and everyone moved on, 1 year later and no one remembers her.

>>282047293
Nayuta's death was unpopular and Aging was unpopular. That is why every volume sells less than the last. Only BABS will cause a sales increase next volume.

>>282047354
to expand on this idea nayuta has the same tier of relevance as himeno or yuko, readers only care about asaden or yoruden shenanigans, just like how readers in part1 cared about the hayakawa family's fate. Nayuta is just a plot device that served it's purpose long time ago

>>282047276
the only thing that matters is a stat showing how many volume buyers have read the content of the volume in advance online. i doubt such a stat is available.
>>282047293
you have had comments removed from every arc, doesn't mean anything.
>>282047354
if you think that's an example of goonslop you've barely read any other manga.
>Nayuckta is very irrelevant, 3 chapters after and everyone moved on, 1 year later and no one remembers her.
yes a lot of people "moved on" by stopping to read the manga indeed

>>282047442
>you have had comments removed from every arc, doesn't mean anything.
You only addressed one point. Address the rest of it, if you're making an argument. I'm saying the aging devil arc had the most drastic drop in sales, not gooning, the dark tone after Nayuta's death or whatever you two are arguing about, because the Aging Devil arc is the one of the worst arcs in CSM

>>282047442
>if you think that's an example of goonslop you've barely read any other manga.
i can post tons of examples, don't worry
>yes a lot of people "moved on" by stopping to read the manga indeed
This is literally just your made up cope, people didn't drop the manga when himeno or yuko died and they were more relevant than nayuta panel-wise

>>282047492
i think you have to be nuts if you can't see how badly the whole nayuta situation reflected on denji's character and how it definitely encouraged a bunch of readers to drop the series.
again, it's not so much about the importance of nayuta or how her great her character was, but the fact that we see denji stumbling around in brothels, crying about his dick, making out with a devil, and then having nayuta's head presented to him as he's contemplating how good it felt that he got jerked off.
it was a gut punch to the type of readers who expect a bit more of an optimistic direction for denji after all the suffering he's been through.
personally i found it fucking hilarious but i'm definitely not the type of person that would be regarded as part of a mass audience.

>>282047576
>but the fact that we see denji stumbling around in brothels, crying about his dick, making out with a devil, and then having nayuta's head presented to him as he's contemplating how good it felt that he got jerked off.
literally no one saw it like that, no one cares about nayuta, she was a side character, denji's suffering was explored for 3 panels, fujimoto didn't want the reader to give a fuck

>>282047506
that's more like it but it's still a kick in the nuts for the readers who were made to buy into Asa and Denji being an item after Asa gave her somewhat of a heart-felt confession just a few chapters prior.
denji is then seen losing his mind over some bitch who has been fucking up their lives over and over.