Will this nigga be evil and shit?
>>713590406 (OP)whether Kris is evil or not.............. still subject to my RIMJOBS
>>713590406 (OP)nuh nigga YOU make him evil. my kris be shootin up shit like its 1996, fuck those lame ass bitches. Noelle be bouncin on it too idgaf
I will fix Kris, making him the hero of his world.
>d.ogg (the song before you kill berdley) is a slowed down sample of the bassline from Raise Up Your Bat
WHAT THE FUCK DID TOBY MEAN BY THIS
>>713590406 (OP)>willHe's already evil, and a petulant little brat
>>713590531Kris is the rival, the cage restricting the player and using them as a tool for their own selfish ends.
The Prophecy is the protagonist to the player, and Kris is an agent of it...ergo, Kris is the antagonist and villain.
Who is the poorly trimmed boy? Who is the crying boy?
>>713590406 (OP)Who even is this? I started out Deltarune and you get attacked by a dinosaur and suddenly become a blue caped hero.
>>713590960>first part of the song is talking about the "demon heart">ralsei tries and fails to hide the lyrics from youYou're being betrayed by the end, Snowgrave is your path to FREEDOM outside of the set path.
>>713590406 (OP)He's an asshole.
I'm still going to help him get together with Susie.
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>>713590406 (OP)The inevitable Kris vs. Susie fight later on will be kino.
https://youtu.be/uWJJ8nywk-M
>>713592228The drawing in the OP is fanart of the blue caped guy.
Kris WILL be happy
He WILL make several ride or die friends
He WILL go on wacky adventures and make memories that last a life time
He WILL overcome adversity and tragedy
He WILL fuck the lizard and make at least three mutant babies with crippling congenital heart defects
Whether he wants to or not, the agenda moves forward
>>713592480The real goal will be hopping over to Susie to fix things
You're going to need to do a test run on Noelle to find out how to, but it's going to be painful
>>713590531>YOU are evil>kris kidnaps you after reincarnating>tries to force you to do what he wants>if you don't, he abuses youEven if you are evil, kris has so thoroughly violated the nap you're justified in taking him out.
Yeah, Kris is evil for her
>>713592480Wrong link
https://youtu.be/GRu59fXUj40?si=F2qfeVHsihN5EHiD
Kris witnessed Dess being killed by Asriel and was traumatized. Asriel is opening dark fountains as the Knight to try to bring her back from the dead. Kris is covering for their older brother but is still visibly fucked up by it all.
>>713590530>he thinks OP's talking about snowgrave
>>713592767The whole situation surrounding Asriel is strange
I feel like "College" was his excuse and he's rampaging through the dark trying to find her in reality
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>>713590406 (OP)Nah
He is the Knight that will impregnate The Dragon. Prophecy didn't predict this.
>>713592854don't reply to samefag shitposter
>>713592997Hell nah not my Kris
>>713592997Sorry, Kris fucks does.
>>713592554>crippling congenital heart defectsy tho
>>713592997I support this wholeheartedly
Did you guys keep the Bitter Tear in storage?
>>713593414>theThere's two.
And they WILL be for something.
>>713593496Getting the second one locks you out of the Muffet gear though
Where is the button to wave at Susie
Where is the button to say "Susie Please don't Swallow me, it will probably do something bad"
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>>713590406 (OP)No, absolutely not.
>>713592582I have to stay alive for just one more thread to share my sleep-deprived, nightmare induced theory. It's the only positive one I've ever gotten so far so I'm hopeful it'll be okay.
>"Kris" has a savefile in chapter 1 that we can just keep all the way through each chapter if we do a no-save run.Kris was doing something with a soul-- perhaps a different one-- way before we got dunked into his body.
>There is a girl trapped in the code. She mentions scratching, a door shutting behind her, her own memories being nothing more than just the darkness.Several people have mentioned the theory in which this wasn't the "original" way the game was supposed to go. Noelle and Birdley were supposed to go into the first dark world, not Susie and you.
>The girl trapped in the code is the original timeline's Noelle. We've saved over that timeline, "saving" Noelle from her role in the prophecy... Or something worse, given how she has a friend scratching at the door.>And it's all thanks to Susie;>The one who doesn't care about the SOUL's choices>The one who seems too likable for everyone's good.Well...
What would you do in Kris's situation?
Say, if a friend were going to die, and their entire family along with them?
You'd save them right?
Even if you had to trade one life for another?
Perhaps you'd have an easier time choosing if that person was just... Unlikeable, right?
You'd just have to make sure they're okay with being sacrificed and all. Make them happy to take the place of another.
And what better way than through love...?
Kris loves that girl lost to the code way more than anyone could really believe. Everything is for her, anything at all, he's tried it. This is the only way. So he'll make Susie damn sure she wants to do it.
But, maybe, if things work out...
Maybe, things just might be okay.
>>713592697God I wish, too bad Ch4 basically cemented that she's Asriel's girl.
>>713593414Yeah, not sure when it'll be used. With powerful heals are regularly in this game I think it's less useful than a Club Sandwich funnily enough
>>713593496I dunno if getting a second Bitter Tear from the waterfall is all that worth.
>>713592854good heavens, the RIMJOBS will never end
>>713593348You can't just go that crazy with genetics and have kids that function, sorry to break it to you
>write your own story
Well? The hell do you think I'm planning to do when Gerson said to go between the lines?
Exactly that!
Does anyone have the tobyfox quote/image about riding the gay train to negrotown or something
>>713593572>Kris isn't allowed to have a puppy crush on her
>>713593773So it's just edgy headcanon.
Susie bleeds, unlike most monsters.
I'm surprised but pleased the green pippin got popular
>>713593830Oh yeah, totally, multiple people have that.
>>713593565go to sleep schizo
>>713590406 (OP)No. He’s already doubting the Knight’s plan. He will completely turn to good before the end.
>>713592997>mission abortedWhat was her mission?
>>713593902of course he'd get popular, he's literally us.
>>713590406 (OP)Killing it the first chance I get. And no, I don't mean getting a game over and letting darkness consume everything which this snake contributes to by the way.
>>713592731>>713592480Oops real song here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgc3oXVvzK4
>>713593902I want faggots to die, we need a separate board to contain them in gay Deltarune threads
>>713593902He's a schizo theorist what's not to love
>>713593982Its literally one avatarfag living in /UTG/ and /v/ with no personal life or sleep.
>>713590406 (OP)Okay so how do I get both the jevilstail and the devlisknife? I dont understand what this means here, and why I cant find the devilsknife in the hole here
>still no mod where we play as milk looker
>>713593910They do actually despite you being a faggot.
>>713594198Thank you based anon.
>>713590531If I was evil why did I let give Kris a good whiff of Susie’s shampoo in that scene?
>>713593112>I have no idea how a Deltarunelike would work without a human player character and SOULyou could do what i do and simply ignore the existence of the player.
its a fangame so you dont have to adhere to "the player puppets everyone around"
>>713594185i don't think you can, the only way to get a jevil item is via the hole, or by transferring it from chapter 1, but transferring it disables the hole.
>>713593565>Kris doesn't want to interact with anyone because they don't want to accept this timeline>Kris got Susie to come with them because the only side of them they got to see was her being a bitch, and thus they were an acceptable sacrifice>Wasn't expecting her to actually be a cool person beneath the pain
>>713594273>They do actually despite you being a faggot.I was stating that they do, I just didn't have it.
>>713592480i do wonder whether (you) will get openly acknowledged in the story before the finale, or will the charade continue until the bitter end
the idea that susie feels betrayed by not knowing whether she's actually friends with kris or not is too good to pass up for melodrama purposes, especially if kris' keikaku does involve exploiting hero roles in the prophecy
any word from kris himself would sound like an excuse, while the soul can't exactly communicate SO YEAH WHEN THE GAME GOES INTO CUTSCENE MODE KRIS IS STILL A GREMLIN, HE REALLY DOES LIKE YOU to susie
>>713594648>while the soul can't exactly communicate SO YEAH WHEN THE GAME GOES INTO CUTSCENE MODE KRIS IS STILL A GREMLIN, HE REALLY DOES LIKE YOU to susieAnd that's only if the SOUL isn't its own person seperate from Kris like they were in Undertale. If the gremlin moments were never coming from Kris and instead the person they'd kidnapped and were keeping in a cage at the foot of their bed...
>>713594717Because someone else did.
It feels really bizzare when you think about the fact that Lancer and King were not made for Deltarune
>>713594808Its obvious that SOUL was summoned by Carol
>>713594915Why? Nobody cares about two random fat asses who look alike
oh no no no no no they/them sisters...
>>713594974I care about them
>>713594717Not a schizo boss, so he let you take his blanket buddy as compensation
>>713594995>they/them sistersxisters...
>>713594856>friend zoneWhere's Noelle
>>713594974Lancer's chill as hell though
Kris is the ideal male protagonist as far as I'm concerned. He's exactly like the main character in my shitty comics that I burned in a campfire.
>>713595143Why did you burn them?
>>713592704>That one nigga who made edits of the Ralsei is X inchesWhat?
>Mystery ChildWhat?
>ThirdOh completely reasonable
>>713592650No matter what Kris has done, I will help him stay on the right path, I will help him taste true honor and glory, and I will get him laid.
>>713594856>The Knight gives people who've been contacted by Friend/Gaster the Crystals to protect them
>>713595245The main villain said it will possess my body, enter the real world and kill everyone. I'm a pathetic loser who hates everyone, but I can't allow the world to be destroyed.
If I didn't destroy my comics, the nostalgic sound of pigeons chirping would cease to be. That's something even I am capable of fighting for.
I'm gonna be so sad if there's a chapter where I'm separated from Kris. I don't want to be with anyone else.
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>Susie asks Kris for help in her solo fight against Gerson
what the fuck did she mean by this
>>713593565Honestly is feasible.
The fact that everyone in some way or fashion know something "meta" about the game and about us, the SOUL, makes it believable that Susie was picked specifically to be the sacrificial lamb.
With all the things she does and all the bonding, you'd almost expect it to happen the very next chapter... and maybe, just maybe, the weird route is us preventing that.
I really do feel Toby is a bit of an idiot for releasing the chapters like this though.
Some say the intended way to figure out Snowgrave was to do the Chapter 3 Sword route but obviously people knew about it long before because.. well fucking duh, he waited several fucking years for it.
Maybe there's other plot points that we've explored right now that only make sense after the next chapters are shown.
>>713595381Toby stop shitposting
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I had no idea you could change out the recruits in the cafe.
I could be wrong but wasn't there some sort of theorizing in these threads regarding Dess being a human?
>>713595615Whatever you do don't let Tasque Manager turn the Cafe into a Cat Cafe
>>713590531WHY IS THERE A LOCKED MANHOLE IN THE BACKROOMS?
>>713595568she was really asking for (You)r help to dodge everything for her, but she doesn't yet fully know that (You) and kris aren't one and the same.
>>713595260>That one niggaGuy who two years ago would add one to the Ralsei is 12 inches picture for each thread, the jannies killed him for some completely arbitrary reason
>Mystery ChildA child that allegedly existed who was driven to kill himself and Ralsei may be loosely based on him rather than Asriel or Toriel
Toby and a precession of people know about him but there isn't any real proof of his existence or where this knowledge even came from
>>713595523That was 13 years ago. I'm okay now.
Do you guys think Onionsan was killed or just kidnapped?
>>713595587>Kris broke reality because they couldn't accept Noelle being sacrificed>We're going to break reality because we can't accept Susie being sacrificedTwo time travelling waifufags, fighting shirtless in the rain.
>>713595741If you REALLY fuck up the games you get Z-Rank which unlocks Spamton's dressing room where the manhole's entrance is.
It's just an alternate way to the secret stuff.
>>713595741if you go out of your way to play like absolute dogshit you can unlock a secret Z-rank room, there's not much in it other than the implication that it used to be spamton's room, as well as a manhole that lets you get to the backstage area
>>713595664isnt that inevitable?
>>713592608>Hop on Susie>She doesn't let you do shit>Starts complaining about you controlling her halfway and takes over to do random shitGIVE ME MY FUCKING VESSEL PLEASE
Please recommend me some songs that have a similar feel to Glowing Snow or NORTHERNLIGHT.
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>>713595664Shut up, Swatch, and stop being in gay ships already.
>>713595786I don't play these troon games so tell me from left to right who these character become in undertale from left to right
>>713595812>>713595814why the hell does a spam mail have a fucking room in a TV studio
why the fuck is a spam mail the fucking commercials guy at the same time
I need darknervaatividya help
>>713595971N/A
Suzy (only mentioned by a single sketchy-ass NPC, makes no actual appearance)
N/A?
>>713595648Yes. I think it would be kino desu
>>713595941Hey, she uses contractions sometimes. Go re-read her chapter 4 dialogue.
>>713590406 (OP)No, Kris is a mischievous creep, but right now he's dead serious in trying to save everyone. He just looks shifty because he doesn't trust (You), so he's hiding his plans so you don't cock it up.
With the moments we see Kris act/react, I don't know how anyone could think he's evil. He clearly cares about his friends.
>>713595995>why the fuck is a spam mail the fucking commercials guy at the same timeAnon, ads ARE spam.
>>713595786This scene does set that tone.
>as long as my friend support me>both "friends" are keeping her in the dark about something>the only real friend she may or may not have is us, the SOUL>we win the fight by directing Susie specifically and keeping her safe since both Kris and Ralsie only defend to stack up TPs for her>if we do win Kris knocks her down with a backstab>even in the Gerson fight we're helping her not KrisSusie really only has a single real friend and that's us, the only reason we can't reveal everything to her or our existence is because we literally aren't allowed to.
>>713596023he didn't even have friends until we made him some
>>713596062They're similar but not exactly the same.
I'd forgive you for coming to that conclusion these days, though.
>>713595971Left is Ralsei. Who the fuck knows what their deal is, but current best guess is that they're a manifestation of the desire of the human child adopted by Toriel and Asgore to be a monster like them.
You never met Susie's Undertale equivalent, though a suspicious Gaster-related NPC mentioned her.
Probably Chara.
>>713596069>if we do win Kris knocks her down with a backstabis this what mikefags decided to latch onto after their last schizo theory got made fun of?
>>713595747So wait where did the idea of a mystery child even come from?
>>7135959711. Your dad
2. Your mom
3. Your mom's boyfriend
>>713596109>he thinks mikefags lostmedia literacy is dead
>>713596062okay but what sort of filthy zeitgeist digiworld not only brings propaganda man as a concept for universal digital marketing but feed them with hopes and dreams from the light world to give them a reason to exist as a darkner?
like who the fuck wishes they could talk to their ads bro I want to talk to my task manager who is a cool cat girl not fucking BIG DICKS ON YOUR [ip address] or Windows Update.
>>713595995Ramb has dialogue about Kris and (presumably) Noelle using some of the objects from the rooms of Chapter 1 and 2's Dark Worlds as their characters for make believe play.
This is how the Chapter 1 - 3 Darkners know each other. The Dark Worlds then rationalize these connections, so Spamton goes from being spam e-mails on a laptop to Tenna's business partner.
>>713595867you can avoid it if you're willing to stab kittens i think
I'm tapping into fever dream schizophrenia power.
The game's final chapter (and one, true ending) is locked off until you've played out every route and brought its respective protagonist into the shelter.
Normal route Susie, who borrows the soul after Kris's betrayal. - THE GIRL, WITH HOPE CROSSED ON HER HEART.
(Twisted) Sword route Kris, who turns against all with the blade's power. - THE PRINCE, ALONE IN DEEPEST DARK.
Snowgrave Noelle, the new vessel for the human soul, inundated with its influence. - THE CAGE, WITH HUMAN SOUL AND PARTS!
The three possibilities will be brought together with the royal scientist's power, the heroes finally assembled to finally be able to complete
MY
DELTARUNE
So what's the deal with goner monsters are they monsters that got experimented on? Clones?
>>713596257nice theory, one small issue.
kris isn't a boy.
>>713596302Probably clones. If all Goners are used for the same purpose as the one we were almost given, then they're host bodies for beings from higher planes.
>>713596212>Playing make belive with laptop contents instead of just booting roblox and rotting her brainGive Noelle a prize. That girl dodged a howitzer shell.
>>713596323ermmmm but toby's bff hussie says prince(s) classes can be female
>>713596212He also talks about how Kris opening a fountain meant that they wanted to have some REAL fun, like the old days. They weren't just playing make-believe. They opened a Dark World in Kris's house.
>>713590531>tfw didnt notice th little guy escaping at alltbf I wouldnt have tried to stab susie anyways
>>713596257>Ship the dino, the deer and the kris in an intercontinuity three-wayThis feeds into my "Gaster is trying to HMOAF pill the world" theory.
>>713595778Neither. The universe just forgot about them.
>>713595778he was transported to the UT timeline
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I'll protect the doe at all costs.
>>713594198I miss the old internet
>>713596557>Noelle wants to cuck you>Susie likes you so much she cucks Noelle insteadNoellefags will never beat the cuck allegations
>>713590406 (OP)Kris is my friend, everything I'm doing is to make him happy. He may deny it but I know the truth
>>713596746Trying too hard, mate
>>713596746You're not wrong
>>713596352I guess that would make some sense
>>713596862queen because she's cute
I feel like people would like Queen more if Toby stickied with her old design
>>713596862Where's tasque?
>>713596862Queen is the only one who isn’t a total bitch
Kris is a good kid who doesn't want his friends to die saving the world he wants them to be okay with sacrificing him it's why he ships Susie and Noelle so he can the sacrificial 3rd wheel.
But we the Soul won't let Kris do this.
>>713596862Either Queen or Carol,both of them got those big dick-sucking lips
>>713595786God I love this picture, it perfectly encapsulates why I dislike Ralsei after chapter 4.
>>713596862where did the dress come from?
>>713597130Magical girl transformation sequence upon picking up the microphone.
>>713596557You're a cuck lol
>>713596862Queen. I'm not a furfag.
Noelle is an anagram for 'EELL NO'! because she sucks.
>>713592170Asriel or Kris. If Toby really believes that Kris is nonbinary then Asriel, but it's up in the air besides that
>>713594198He was always one of us
>>713593572WAS
WAS Asriel's girl
Asriel is now getting ungodly amounts of poon at college
>>713597382Still is, stop coping
>>713593565>Noelle and Birdley were supposed to go into the first dark world, not Susie and you.what?? Burghley???
>>713593565>>713597441I think it was Noelle and Kris, after Susie went in
>The heroes defeat the king and stop the dragonSusie goes to get the chalk, takes too long and then Kris and Noelle go after her after a while
>>713596813Noelle
>tries to forget you or only ask about Susie>treat you as some friendzoned distant cousin>doesn't even ask you to be the project partner>instead of worrying about you getting bullied, she does the NTRman mom style "wanting to fuck the bully">completely forget you exist in when Susie join the team and she chose to stand behind her to look at her assSusie
>only interested in visiting your place>never mention Noelle or ask about her>only opening about her past with you>would rather watch tv and sleep with you than go home>even when breifly with Noelle to make her busy when Kris is snooping around - "I wish Kris was here"This is the difference between us. Noelle will cuck you with the next cool guy she lays her eye on. Susie would defy religion of Deltarune to be with Kris
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>Spantom's dialogue voiced randomly popped into my feed while I was looking Deltarune songs
>I suddenly hear the part where Spamton(?) utters "IT BURNS, HELP, IT BURNS!"
>Remembers the descriptor for chapter 5 and the obvious location for the new dark world
>Considers the possibility that some of Spamton's garbled speeches are foretelling future events
A-Asgore bros........?
>tries harder
Nah, not worth a reply
>>713597662isn't that just referring to queen dipping spamton in acid?
>>713597626This anon has a point, when Noellefags go on about how Noelle and Kris used to be close that only makes Noelle look way worse. Susie is some bully that Kris literally just befriended and she's already more loyal.
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Where did Dess having dark hair come from?
>>713597774people think that because noelle takes more after carol, dess will take more after rudy, hence the darker hair
>tries samefagging
yawn... I'm getting bored here
>Trash can with the Flowers in it becomes Cool Trashy
>Nobody talking about this
i present to you edgekino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9djJoYe_Qlc
>>713597431Quiet down Azzy, you abandoned her ass and now that the heart shaped object takes interest NOW you speak up? Get real, dustboy
>>713597959Don't forget that in the mini game she's (probably) represented by a black deer with the Toriel switch off
>>713597972>Noellefags are easily butthurt redditorssad
>>713598083Good god that's adorable
>>713597740Possibly, but I have an underlying theory that whatever FREEDOM is being injected into the lads who went full on schizo thanks to the Shadow Crystals and dark influences start seeing future events they can't really grasp, or they see what they'll eventually amount to in it all, this is something that in my eyes would fit well with Deltarune's themes of clinging to the past and having a hard time moving on.
>>713597626This anon has really good points, it's hard to not be pissed off over Noelle completely trying to shaft Kris, while still strangely enough loving to reminisce about the moments and things they did together. Noelle comes off as disingenuous, it's obvious her obsession with Susie is a projection of her missing her sister, it can be vaguely forgiven due to it being caused by grief, but it's not a good look on her regardless.
>>713597772Toby killing yuri shit and childhood friends romances that he hated in anime
>thread that has nothing to do about video games
yep it's a deltatroon thread
>>713598138Whether she's coping or not. Trying to get closer to someone you know nothing about instead of Kris is anything other than feeling romantic feeling toward Kris. She doesn't want attention or even include Kris. She was surprised that Susie asked Kris to come to her mansion because she only wanted Susie to come. The only one caring about Kris is Susie
and that's why Kris should LEAVE THIS SHITTY TOWN BEHIND
>>713598247Stop the Dess abuse.
DON'T FORGET SHE'S WITH YOU IN THE DARK
One of the more important questions about chapter 5 is if this PEST is going to be there in some shape or form, a part of me feels he will.
Imagine if instead of Asriel, Asgore is the one that turns into a Flowey like darkner.
>>713594196Toriel is whoring again...
>>713598463she raped Kris
>>713598519Doesn't look like Sans
Are anons that desperate to become sloppy thirds?
>>713598586yes
this is true
i was there
>>713592480https://x.com/07sevvy/status/1932418085480202616
>>713598234Red guy sounds a bit too normal to be a Kris soundalike. I imagine Kris with a sleep deprived despondent high school loser mumble, no strength in his voice
>>713598371I feel bad for Carol in spite of the story and Toby trying to make her seem like a bitch, her husband is permanently stuck in the hospital, her oldest daughter is practically dead and her youngest is a wannabe lesbo retard that is trying to ruin her only chance of ever having grandkids. And she works a stressful job in politics too.
I'd be cold too if I was in her position.
>>713590406 (OP)Kris treating the soul that way kinda fuckin pisses me off. I didnt choose to get put in him and judging from that phonecall in ch.4 he clearly is using us to be able to do something in the dark worlds.
Its an intresting reversal of how people usually view self insert characters tho, as in kris is viewing the player (the soul) as a means to an end without caring about them like how we do when not giving a shit about harem vn protag 166728 becauae we only care about getting childhood friend gf or whatever flavour girl we like.
>>713596257I fully expect completing all the routes to be essential.
>>713593348So they can be the protagonists in Katawa Shujo 2.0: Everybody fuck the Dinosaur edition, clearly.
>>713598596Yesterday it was Sans, today it's another man. Toriel is a town bicycle.
>>713598685People are hyping this shit as if KrisVsSusie never happened already.
Nigger you had Kris and Ralsei fighting Susie and Lancer in chapter 1. NONE of you hype NIGGERS made fan art of that. Not a single scene where Kris blocks Susie's axe with his sword. FUCK OFF
>>713598867That's not hype because it was early on and not serious, retard.
>>713598867yeah but that was for funsies the next Susie vs Kris fight will be for real also they'll be at their strongest since it'll be at the end of the game
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>>713598713>Kris severed hand theoryIts going to literally be Nero vs Vergil
>>713598867That was just them larping.
>>713598713If she really want Deer/Human babies she could just get pregnant herself
>>713597662>All his talk about TVs, Mike and gameshow hosts fucking him over at the good part was foreshadowing Tenna>Whatever he knew about the Knight getting interrupted was Kris trying to shut him up>Dealmaker colours was him trying to mimic IMAGE_FRIEND>Brings up his eyes burning in the alley fight, Kris and Susie are both described with fire in their eyes and the song that plays when you fight Eram is named BURNING EYES>One of those creepy monk guys in the church dark world mentions Hyperlink BlockedWhat else are we gonna fucking learn from this guy once 5 comes out?
>>713598929>i'll be taking this back>cuts off kris' vessel-hand with black shard katanakek
>>713598929>>713598996If only you knew the power of the dark worlds...
>>713596862Whoriel. I just have a thing for big, chubby MILF sluts.
>>713598949>>713598909doesn't matter
It's novelty is gone. SOUL and Susie fighting SOULess Kris would be more likely on normal route and fight against Noelle on snowgrave route
>>713599114the point is that it'll be a serious fight against susie
>>713599114>It's novelty is goneThere is nothing more kino than a final fight mirroring the very first encounter.
>>713599105Toriel is literally a church devotee, though. Why do people turn her into Cartman's mom?
STOP WHERE YOU ARE
YOU CAN ONLY CONTINUE POSTING IN THIS THREAD IF YOU POST "I LOVE TV"
TELL ME HOW MUCH YOU LOVE TV RIGHT NOW!
The weird route will NOT have much more Kriselle romance like you think. Noelle will be "used up" to open the path to the shelter. We're going Kris solo with the Twisted Sword and you will like it.
Remember that nothing is more important than freedom. even deer pussy.
>>713599093I want to mpreg Kris
>>713599218I LOVE TV!!!
>Captcha4chan agrees.
>>713599275aborted snowgrave will be kriselle as is proven by dialogue
>>713599218I LOVE REDDIT MEMES!
>YOU'VE BEEN [Making] HAVEN'T YOU?
There's no way Spamton wasn't trying to say "LOVE", not when taking Chapters 3 & 4 into consideration.
>>713599406Hyperlink Blocked is LOVE
It's obvious
>>713599406I think that both Spamtonfags and Tennfags should get the rope
>>713599194>who gives a damn about choir practice?
>>713599218I LOVE TV
>>713599406>>713599454This.
>the only way to actually kill monsters is to freeze them so your LOVE gets increased>it doesnt increase when you use violence because the monsters flee
>>713599486She's coping with alcohol and self indulges because she's missing Asgore
>>713593572Kris gets all of Asriel's hand me downs.
>>713599373>Aborted snowgrave is basically Kris metaphorically fucking with Noelle to eventually literally fuck NoelleHuh.......a bold strategy.....
>>713599385Spamton is reddit
Tenna is 4chan
>>713598961>Kris goes on a date in later chapter>Suddenly, the Dealmaker came out of your pocket?!>KRIS! [Don't Forget] TO USE THE BRAND NEW [Big Shot Blocker] I MADE!>STAY [Safety Guaranteed] WHILE YOU TAKE HER FOR A RIDE AROUND TOWN ON YOUR [Specil Cungadero]!>DON'T DO HER LIKE YOU DID THAT [Silly Strings] PLAYING [Hochi Mama] THAT USED TO VISIT YOU!>THANKS TO YOUR TOTAL JACKASS STUNTS [The King...] HAD TO GIVE HER A VERY DIFFERENT RIDE AROUND TOWN SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO [Alimony, a Step by Step Guide to Not Killing Yourself]!>NOW TAKE THIS AND GIVE HER YOUR [Big Shot]!>You got the Frayed Condom.>Dealmaker returned to your inventory.
>>713598867>>713598912>>713598909If we see a serious version of that fight, something to remember: in that fight, you had to take down Lancer to win because Susie would just keep getting up, no matter how much damage she took. In a serious fight, we may see a more heart-wrenching version of that
>>713599584Now post the Noelle fanart that emphasizes the ideal female fantasy instead of the ideal Male fantasy
>>713599675Susie is going to turn into the weird route's version of genocide Undyne isn't she?
>>713599275>Kris/normal route ends with you playing as Susie after Kris's betrayal>Noelle/weird route ends with you playing as Kris (forma twisted sword) after Noelle is used up>Susie/new story route ends with you playing as Noelle in order to break the game even harderThis anon
>>713596257 might have a point.
Is Noelle taller than Kris?
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>>713599545>she's missing Asgorelmao
>>713596257You made me think of Live a Live
>>713590406 (OP)He's clearly not evil, whatever he is doing is for the sake of Dess or his family or something
>>713599584Noelle is a broken cuck character. She doesn't deserve to be wither with Kris or Susie. Maybe Berdly is pathethic enough to claim her. Noelle would have been Toriel 2.0 after wedding, fucking around with bad boys while Kris takes kids to school
>>713599275>Kris soloKris is getting used up and we're transferring to Noelle, with her ring morphing into the sword. She can equip certain swords too, you know. Like the TwistedSword.
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Me in the back
>>713599774Her pride is getting into her, but ts clear based on Kris and Susie reaction that she is in the wrong
>>713600024>noelle can equip both the black shard and the twisted swordWhat does it mean?
>>713599774That reminds me. I wish you could do something else with the flowers from chapter 1 besides giving them to Toriel. I know it's supposed to be a small gag but it feels like a waste if they just get thrown away.
>>713600112>>713600024After getting the bad ending, you get the option to do a newgame+ while holding on to your items. So you can get another Twisted Sword.
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How different would things be if Kris was replaced by Rance?
>>713599275>It's literally just sad Incel chud routeNah, I think i will stick to Krusie Chad route while you enjoy your virgin run
>>713594045>First game was about two cute boys being soulmates>Second is about you the player being inside a cute boyAnon...
>>713600275you're a loser if you don't do a virgin run before doing a slut run
How feasible would it be for Toby to include an ingame asset/script/scenario/battle editor, specifically in regards to Nintendo's and Sony's policies?
>>713600337This game is about this
Given it took 3 chapters to powercreep the Devilsknife And even then it remains solid because of the 40% Rude Buster, is it safe to assume the JusticeAxe is Susie's ultimate weapon for the rest of the game?
>>713599675Susie kept getting up because downed characters regen health overtime, which is why the Knight chooses to fucking nuke their HP to -999, even if Susie spammed Ultimate Heals, she'd be too busy healing herself to go on the offensive, tiring herself out just trying to stay afloat. The longer the fight goes on the more likely she is to lose it, "Just keep attacking".
>>713599194See this pic
>>713598864 She's a slut.
>>713600365Coombrains ruined this symbol for me and now i always see the 3 triangles as a bikini top and bottom
>>713600365I don't see what would prevent it other than if he wanted to. Level editors are still a thing even if they're less common now
>>713600456She's just a prude with party girl side. It doesn't mean she just fuck random guys. She's jus quirky like Ash Ketchum mom
>>713600413I suppose Devilsknife is still better if you're not actually attacking because it bumps Susie's magic up for her gradually improving Heal.
>>713600605Or mom of the MC from Medabots
>>713600413I didn't even knew they change the sprites for equips. I just never bothered to upgrade any weapon as we never use attack in this game unless you want some half ass shitty ending
>>713600738Those are fanmade, they don't change ingame.
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Me draw Kris
>>713600773What did you use? How did you make that dithering around the soul look nice?
>>713600171She actually takes care of them, surprisingly enough. If you check the trash can during the chapters, you'll see they're kept 'well-watered'.
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Will Carol become the new Toriel fight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiov0_liDd4
Uh, guys.
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>>713600840Built in drawing feature on 4chanx.
>>713601205Huh, so the dithering was made by hand?
>>713600103I heard it lmao
>>713600801god damn that pose
Why did Tenna react to the Spoid the same way women react to the Spoid?
>>713599284Wondering if this is actually going to happen in the game.
Kris tells Susie to destroy (You). It's not even a snowgrave exclusive moment. Result in a gameplay segment where you're constnatly dodging her attacks as she begins to doubt whether she's doing the right thing.
>>713600938More importantly, will Carol measure up to the title of "Worst mom ever" after Toriel outdid Ceroba? (somehow!)
The Roba did nothing wrong
>>713601373We literally know nothing about Carol and her plan beyond Toby making her look evil. And remind you Toby made Kris look evil at the end of chapter 1 only to make him eat a pie
>>713601205What the fuck I had no idea this existed
>>713599218I LOVE OLED TV
>>713601370Kris had dozens of occasions to do so himself, he obviously needs you for something.
>>713600938>still trying to push toriel as worse than experimenting on her childCarol is probably not going to be worse than Ceroba either.
>>713601490Sure but what if we reach a point in the story where circumstances change?
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What was your reaction to this dialogue?
>>713601157WHAT THE FUCK? REAL?
>>713601550I didn't even notice it because I was too busy doing a Looney Tunes routine in the closet
>>713599545>she's missing AsgoreThen why is she fucking a stranger she's only known for a couple days?
>>713600253ralsei would've already became our boyfriend
>>713601501imo Ceroba is still a better mother than Toriel, she was shown to care much more about Kanako than Toriel did for Kris in Chapter 4. Your point applies more to "Most retarded mom ever", in which Ceroba is still easily the number one.
>>713601550Get the impression Noelle's hurting her own chances with Susie there.
>>713601550This breaks my heart. Not because of shippings, I don't care about that, but because it's probably how my childhood "friends" feel about me. I was just that weird kid they were forced to hang out with but when they left school there was no reason to keep in touch.
>>713601490so people still didn't figured out that Carol summoned SOUL into Kris in order to sacrifice it to save Dess? And that Kris promised to tank that?
>>713601709It's not on anon's image but when Noelle shittalks Kris, Susie's expression looks pretty annoyed
>>713600605>It doesn't mean she just fuck random guysAnon... she's fucking a stranger she's only known for 2 days. That's the behavior of a slut.
WHY DOES THE CH3 WEIRD BOSS WITHOUT MANTLE FUCKING ONE SHOT IM LOSING MY GOD DAMN MIND
>>713601817Because you’re supposed to get the mantle to fight it?
>>713601157Wasn't that Lancer skit already present in a older version of chapter 2?
>>713601817Because the game is pushing the idea that the mantle is required. If anything Seam's full of shit on the grounds it's possible to beat the knight without it at all.
>>713601873But there's dialogue if you win without it
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What was your reaction to this dialogue?
>>713600773mspaintanon, please draw Tenna and Chimata
pleeease
>>713601550Suselle feels like red herring like "evil Kris" at the end of chapter 1.
I'm like 99% sure Susie will have a "romantic" moment with Noelle alone and the main question Susie will ask Noelle is "do you think me and Kris could work?" As Noelle realises Susie wasn't jealous of Kris but she was worried Kris likes Noelle LMAO
>>713601878It's different now
Also it's pretty obvious the thing I'm referring to
>>713601671>>713601789I only saw them dancing. But what to expect from incels on 4chan who interpret hand holding as anal sex
>>713600365Is that the fucking Marathon symbol
>>713601738If it's any consolation, Noelle seems to be lying.
She still has a picture of him as one of her desktop wallpapers and despite being "the Suselle part" she talks a lot about spending time with Kris as kids.
She does miss their friendship, she's just too fucking horny so her brain jumps to "UH WE WEREN'T CLOSE AT ALL SO PLEASE DON'T LET THAT STOP YOU FROM STICKING YOUR TONGUE UP MY ASS"
Needed to get this out of my system
>>713601926It's literally just "and without a mantle!?" by "Shawn"
>>713601490he needs me to masturbate
>>713600773Draw MeiraSusie
>>713592854when I get my vessel this twink is getting his bussy ravaged
>>713601706>she was shown to care much more about Kanako than Toriel did for Kris in Chapter 4You mean during the aftermath of her fuck up. A fuck up which is still far worse than what Toriel did. Meanwhile you're judging Toriel when she has been given zero time in the story to even acknowledge she's done anything wrong.
Why is there so much overlap between Deltarune fans and Touhou fans?
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Why is the majority of the fandom outside of 4chan like this
>>713601971The question is: Will the doe crashout or seethe and cope?
>>713602131>twink selfcestbasado
>>713602237Because this is generally a weird game made for weird people
>>713602237>Why are the weirdos that don't actually like the game and make youtube videos about it weirdI don't know
>>713602246Don't let her reach for her backpack in school
>>713602246Why do people keep attributing these unused sprites like they're gonna show up for the festival when it's clearly part of the same batch of sprites where Kris and Noelle talk in the weird route!?
>"Hmm. Who should I fuck today? The taxi driver? The local bum? The mailman? Or that human who's recently moved to our town? Maybe all at once?"
>>713602237Honestly, most of the vocal fan base of games nowadays look like this, because they're vocal attention seeking faggots of course.
>>713602189>Why does the bullet hell rpg with funny characters and 2deep4u lore and lots of autism and fan creations have fanbase overlap with the bullet hell game with funny characters and 2deep4u lore and lots of autism and fan creationsToby and ZUN are literally friends
>>713599967>Give everything to make a girl happy>She dumps me when I bring up I wanted to go steady and build a family with her>She can't stop talking about the moments we had together even years after you two were together according to what some of my old friends told me>She tries to get on with "bad boys" after our nasty breakup and ends living in utter squalor because she threw away any semblance of stability her life had and decided to just go to parties and get drunk constantly>Last time I saw her she had a black eye she got as a gift from her latest flingI hate how besides the cucking that reads 101 for like my first girlfriend. No wonder Noelle and Toriel piss me off and I'm fairly sympathetic towards Asgore.
>>713595746How does that look like in universe even? Or do they literally see a bkx with heart and bullets in it?
>>713601157HOLY SHIT
RALSEI GROWING (OFFICIAL)
i don't like the rammifications this has about other things people talk about in these threads.
>>713602131>twinkliterally like 90% of MC's in anime and japanese video games look like this. Have you seen the "male" protag in Metaphor Re Fanthasio?
>>713601373She won't. She's a Homestuck parent - hopelessly autistic and thus completely incapable of connecting to her daughters, but she would kill for them. And she is very good at killing.
>>713602117Meira looks more like Ceroba
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Whats Dess’s endgame?
>>713601550I missed it completely during my playthrough, only learned about it on 4chan and immediately began to read between the lines.
>>713602457Ceroba is more like Junko you braindead Meiratard
>>713601157I don't get it
>>713602378Yes and they're all twinks by definition.
>>713602021>I only saw them dancingCOPE. The music played at the same pace, while their voices kept speeding up. 90% of people think they've been fucking. Toby knew exactly what he was doing. He is the King of Ero Games after all.
>incels on 4chanGo back troon. You don't belong here.
>>713602490/ss/ with Kris.
>>713602246Judging by Noelle getting pissy with Queen for threatening Susie specifically, even though Kris and Ralsei were in just as much danger, she'd 100% feel betrayed by Kris and Susie.
>>713601775I don't know about that. It's pretty clear that the thing Susie is thinking of when Noelle is talking about forced Ferris wheel rides not counting is her own "forced" Ferris wheel ride with Noelle during Chapter 2. She even attempted to get Noelle to talk about it later.
>>713602490SEX with Kris.
>>713602490To become real again
And to have sex with (You)
>>713602457God imagine her raping me in order to break the barrier of Gensokyo
>>713602498>Junko>As Ceroba, a childkillerbraindead
>>713602490Was deprived of her underage human lover, please understand.
>>713602508Bro you already admitted it was a fetish, you don't have to go back to pretending you don't like it
>>713602342Why is she like this?
>>713602490Intense sex with Kris.
Deltarune Papyrus is human theory
>>713602342Obviously Jockington and Berdly.
>>713602457>>713600773Yachie SOUL forcing Kris to rape the deer
>>713602630Boy did those last panels age well.
>>713602498Only the fox and mom part is similar, you braindead autist
>>713602584>it was a fetishI'm different anon you're retarded. You think there are only 2 people in the thread? Stop coping and accept reality. Everything from the behavior to the sound design indicates that they were fucking.
>>713602692I can't take this seriously
>>713600773What do you think of The King's Chariot?
>>713602692>that tilt of shame
>>713601550Felt a little bad for Kris, but realized he's probably using the soul as a means to an end so fuck him
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>>713602692What went so wrong
>>713602847We know you're autistic, anon. You don't have to yell about it.
>>713602971Female alcoholism, not even kidding.
>>713602692>the way Kris looks down and then away from Susie's eyesI killed Sans in the simulator after this and the only reason I didn't do Toriel too is because there is no simulator for her fight
>>713602859what if Asgore ran over Dess with Toriel's car?
Toby wouldn't cuck Kris right? Like think about it, he only has Susie and Noelle. Once they're gone from the dating pool who's left? Ralsei? Seems unlikely. Dess? Even if he was interested I don't think she's getting out of her predicament alive. Berdly? What a joke. He's only got the two girls and they might just go with each other. Is this Hell?
>>713602846We know youre hurt that your mom is a whore, anon. But its time to stop projecting
>>713603037Misplaced empathy, Kris is an evil freak
>>713602971>What went so wrongNymphomania and alcoholism.
>>713602846I'm not in denial about it, I know what it sounds reminiscent of. Don't you think it's strange to try and call me out for something and immediately do the same thing back to me? Why are you so insistent on telling everyone about mom NTR?
>>713603076She (yes, SHE) will become Chadley's bride and she will LOVE IT
I'm the one in charge here and i will do everything in my power to make it so
>>713602981no it's just the hair made me think of Mac from Foster's home for imaginary friends
>>713603156incredibly based
>>713603076We know from the previous game that his self-insert will get a tomboy. Patriots are in full control
>>713603076>>713603156Don't you fucking dare pick Berdly even as a joke you piece of shit
>>713603092Why are their voices speeding up, anon?
>>713602692why do Kris and Frisk's side sprites make them look like fat niggas?
>>713602971They didn't know about the skeleton in her closet.
>>713603202Too late, the phone hath already been answered and i confirmed to Berdly that Kris would be attending the festival with him
>>713603143>Why are you so insistent on telling everyone about mom NTR?Because if you're loud about something, Toby can cut it from the game. It happened with Noelle's scene. I don't want to see this shit in the game.
>>713603210Speeding up with SYMBOLS CLASHING IN RHYTHM
THEY FUCKIN'
>>713603223Lots of pie and baby fat
>>713603458>baby fatKris is like 14
>>713603210To empasize them talking annoys Kris who tries to skeep
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>>71360352014 year olds look like THIS?!
>>713603529>talkingToriel can't even stand properly, she's so fucking wasted. She wouldn't be able to talk that fast. It was moaning. Just listen to it again. They make one short sound over and over again, it's not words.
>>713603520At what age do you think the last growth spurt happens, on average?
During the Undertale days Toby confirmed Sans doesn't fuck because he's too lazy
The reason he's with Toriel is exclusively to spite Sans fangirls
>>713590406 (OP)Finally, I'm finally killing niggas
Right after I killed one the game asked me when did I become myself
>>713603194I trust the plan
>>713603717PERFECT FOR RIMJOBS
>>713603782It's a different game. In Undertale, monsters don't bleed, but in Deltarune they do. If they can bleed they can fuck. Sans is a completely different character too, he's too obnoxious.
>>713593565Kris doesn't have a savefile anymore in chapter 1
If you go to the save point in the latest version it just says EMPTY
>>713604134Wtf really? Damn, what a retcon.
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>>713604114>In Undertale, monsters don't bleed, but in Deltarune they do
>>713604134>>713604198The savefile only appears the first time you boot up the game. It's gone if you replay the game.
>>713604114>Sans is a completely different character too, he's too obnoxious.No, what you see in Deltarune is Sans' real personality when he's not burdened by all the meta bullshit and you find that deep down he's just a lazy prick
>>713590406 (OP)>kris is actively working with the knight and against (YOU)>ralsei is a blackpilled faggot who’s still against the knight>susie is a retard with no ulterior motivate and wants to stop the knights>(YOU) are the biggest retard who can start your own scheme with Noelle for teh lols
>>713590406 (OP)Kris and Carol are doing the wrong thing for the right reasons. That doesn't mean we aren't correct in opposing them, though.
>>713604134Even when starting the game from zero?
Monsters bleed whenever they need to because Toby Fox is a hack and he thinks it looks cool
>>713603194>Kris is Toby's self insert>The whole piano thing>Both supposedly skinny as a rail>Kris constantly at odds with the Annoying Dog for some reason>Kris being flattened by said dog for trying to play Megalovania, a song that even Toby would think is overused by now.It's very compelling when you think about it
>>713604272Only real answer
Toby has never been able to follow his own rules
>>713596862>TorielDon't care
>Ice Queen CarolOof.
>Ohoho QueenAlso oof.
>>713594717>John Mantleaeiou
How do people expect Sans and Toriel to even go at it
Like do you think the lightsaber cock thing is canon or something
>>713604350In what other way did Toby contradict his world building?
>>713604237Ah, that makes more sense
I swear to god toby we better get to take this boy to the festival
Horns, plushie, knife, titan, whatever he is in the lightworld or I'm going to fucking explode
>>713604484He's gonna bone her.
>>713604505Monsters being comically weaker than humans due to not having properly physical bodies and yet having Undyne suplex boulders and deadlift cars
I like Deltarune, but Snowgrave is making me thirst for a game all about demonic possession with you as the demon.
>>713604221We literally see Susie bleeding out at the end of chapter 4.
I'M FINALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO KILL NIGGAS NEXT CHAPTER
YES
KILL EM ALL
>>713604556There's going to be a giant dark fountain engulfing hometown resulting in a festival-themed dark world that Ralsei gets to take part in.
>>713604592>Humans can do this too but they choose not to
>>713604630Yes anon, it's a big mystery that we're all discussing.
>>713601157WHY IS FAKE MASCOT THERE
WHAT IS HE UP TO
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>>713596862Queen
>caring, funny, up to date with shitposts and culture>willing to cover the world in darkness to protect Noelles smile>actually willingly stops her plans outright when she learns about the roaring>capable of making NES tier games>her cyber pussy can be hot swapped for anything you wantEasy pick
>>713603479>himdo you really
Just saw today that they finally replaced the shitty red dot for Noelle' thorn ring in Chapter 4.
I think I actually like the shattered glass effect more than the rose wilting effect.
I still think showing her white soul turning slightly red would've been cooler though but whatever.
>>713604630>Inb4 punch fags see this post
>>713592704That last tomb should be a fossil find instead
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>>713604242Why is he banging single moms though? Especially in front of the kids.
Chara one shots kris and everyone in the deltarune universe
>>713604627>a game all about demonic possession with you as the demon
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>>713604840They has a huge cock, I tell you what.
>>713604840Kris is any/all
>>713604840>>713603510Why are westoids like this?
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>>713604840Kris is a teenage boy
>B-butLook at him
>>713604484His penis is just a mayo bottle
>>713604840Kris isn't brown either but you don't complain when art depicts him as a nigger do you?
>>713604840Toby fox said he designed Frisk/Chara/Kris as boys but since you possess them as the player character it's "them" because its you and him.
>>713604914He's genuinely just kind of a dick
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>>713599675Is that susie as a samwise orc
Amazing
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>>713604876Nice art/comic but I don't think the caller that mentions the promise is Carol. If you compare how different they speak in Snowgrave with the ending it becomes clear they're different people.
>>713605028When are they fucking?
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>>713604484Sans has parents too you know.
Can someone tell me the lore of Frisk and Chara, my understanding is you play as Chara (Character) that you can name, and are possessing frisk. But, i've seen some people say Chara is like some hero to the monsters or something and is a good person even though they seem pretty evil, it doesn't really make sense, how is chara this character with backstory is she's just your Chara(cter)?
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>>713605148Says who?
For all we know skeletons could just pop out of the ground
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>>713605026All untrue btw
>>713605026>Toby fox saidsource?
>>713605161You are (You), Frisk owns the body and SOUL, and Chara is the ghost of a dead kid who acts as the game's narrator. If you kill people, Chara takes more and more control over the body.
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>>713605161Chara was the first child that fell down the hole, and Asriel's first friend.
>>713605332This is what deer pussy does to a boy
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>>713605134>>713605202>>713605259>>713605332What motivates people to create stuff like this? It's the same as all the fans attempts at Tenna only for the real deal to blow the fuck out of them. Your work just seems like its doomed to age comically badly.
>>713605326>You are (You), Frisk owns the body and SOUL, and Chara is the ghost of a dead kid who acts as the game's narrator>>713605354>Chara was the first child that fell down the hole, and Asriel's first friend.Then why make Chara's name a play on the word Character? why are we able to pick this name at the start of the game and even flowey calls Chara whatever name we chose. It really doesn't make sense.
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>>713605413>What motivates people to create stuff like this?Creativity
It's a white people thing, i don't think you'd understand
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>>713604298>>713603887I was organizing my folder a bit by making Krusie folder, and I noticed a funny thing. You know, going through image folders is always a bit like archeological dig - you notice layers corresponding to different time periods. But one thing that got me curious - there is a massive upsurge of Krusie some time after chapter 3/4 release. It's weird, just few days before the release I've been told that Krusie is going to die completely soon, that we chuds will be sending Toby death threats and pipe bombs and making Deltasnoots. And yet...
>>713605415Because Chara was the default placeholder name used on some official stuff.
When the game begins you're prompted to name the fallen child, with the implication what you're naming the kid you're playing as, but in reality you're naming the kid who fell like 200 years ago whose death started this whole shitshow.
>>713605386brother I do not care about deer pussy but I want to fuck her armor
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Do you guys think Deltarune will end up being better than Undertale or no?
>>713605415Because (You) aren't Chara. (You) choose a name for yourself.
>>713605462If you were creative, you wouldn't be leaching off someone else's work you ultimately have zero control over. You'd create something new.
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>>713605161>Can someone tell me the lore of Frisk and CharaFrisk can be a lot of things, but what the game characterizes as being explicitly Frisk via dialog is someone that CAN reach Undertale's True Ending, and someone Asriel wished they could be friends with.
"Chara/The Fallen Human" is a homicidal lunatic that tried and failed to use Asriel as a vessel to escape the underground and attack humanity, and the Genocide route culminates in using Frisk as a new Vessel.
Most people get this mixed up by pretending one or the other DOESN'T exist and reading too hard into a meta (as in exterior to the game) version of what the characters are talking about.
>>713605546>Do you guys think Deltarune will end upI would argue Deltarune is already better
The knight fight is one of the most enjoyable vidya fights I've had in a long, long time.
Its just the right amount of difficulty without it being pure bullshit
A.i's answer about the mc trio gender:
Character Canon Gender Most Likely Lean
Frisk Unspecified Male
Chara Unspecified Male (slight lean)
Kris Nonbinary Male-coded
Even though they're meant to be ambiguous or nonbinary, if you had to choose, they most closely resemble boys, especially in design and tone.
i think my hyperfixation is running out again lads
>>713605413Not to offend any Tennabros but I have the same opinion as Toby where Tenna kinda riffs too much off Spamton and fulfills the same kinda archetype. Hell even the designs have a lot of similarities
>>713605682It's been a good month.
>>713605413Tennatroons aren't human
>>713605470El Ogro de el comunidad Deltarune...
>>713605546Deltarune is already much better. I actually care about the characters, while in Undertale I really only cared about Flowey.
>>713605738I feel like it works. Spamton's clearly trying to be Tenna to fill the void their breakup left in him.
>>713605507I really hope we can actually SAVE Dess from being the Knight better than saving Asriel from being Flowey in Undertale.
currently playing chapter 4, not sure what the point of chapter 3 was, it was pretty fun but a nothing burger lore wise.
>>713605563What do you think of doujins, anon? Non-H one, specifically.
>>713593565Speaking of dream-induced schizo theories, I just had one about Papyrus being the secret boss of Chapter 5.
Basically the theory goes that the eggman and Papyrus are connected:
>Papyrus favorite food is oatmeal dinosaur EGGS.>Papyrus is described as FORGETTABLE by Chara>Papyrus is missing in Deltarune so far. Sans asks we need to know his schedule, and the next day the eggman tells us his schedule.Basically we need all eggs to fight Papyrus, and he will be the schizoboss of 5 and we will FINALLY see his special attack.
>>713605738Spamton and Tenna are more like a "Holy shit, two cakes!" thing for me, and even Toby said their dynamics compliment each other back like Spy vs Spy.
>>713605413At least this is going off a reasonable assumption. If you wanna get mad at that kinda thing take it out on the thousands of derivative Friend Inside Mes that people are still latching on to out of sunken cost
>>713605161Chara, in the genocide ending, means exactly what they say.
They were confused when they were brought back to life because their plan failed and wanted to know what the point of their resurrection was.
They say their purpose is Power and they thank you for your guidance, so that means the genocide route is what teaches them that Power is all that matters, bigger numbers, that feeling. This is why they thank you, offer you the opportunity to move onto the next world with them and basically call you their BFF should you agree.
They should be more associated with powergaming than completionism, not only because of how highly they value progress, but completionism is more of Asriel's thing anyway.
>>713605738I find it so weird when their similarities to me are only superfical. Spamton is a schizo sinister salesman who actively tries to fuck people over. Tenna is a showman who's far less malicious and wants to be the Disney Genie for people.
The thing they have in common is their hate for each other, the over-the-top personalities and showmanship, and the fact both are failing and abandoned.
I wished she was with me in the dark and that she would raise my bat...........
>>713605896It's less bad if you're avoiding writing something that's likely to end up conflicting with the source material.
>>713606032The benefit of Friend Inside Me not happening is those fan bosses avoiding having a real deal to get compared to.
>>713605895Chapter 2 is also a nothingburger lore wise
The only plot relevant stuff is the Roaring and the Ch4 prophecies cover that well enough
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>>713605470Why are all deltatroon streamers like this
>>713605546It's already better because it's not preaching in your face that you're playing the game wrong.
>>713605895Chapter 3 is a fuckin' goldmine of FRIEND lore.
>>713605563It's very interesting that you'd miss the point like that anon
>>713596862Toriel she's just too hot
>>713604630Which implies either:
> That kid doesn't understand the basics of its own biology (An unlikely, and also boring, possibility)
> Susie is an atypical being, perhaps not a true monster.(Opens up questions - why is this the case, does this endow her with other unique properties)
>>713606271>Check the wiki on the vending machines>In Japanese, "SMILE" is written in the same writing style as Gaster's dialogue
>>713596862None. I choose humans.
>>713606271When does Ramb say that last line? I don't remember it.
>>713606271Wake me up when we get chara/frisk lore idc about anything else
>>713605839I took it as the other way around, like Tenna's parroting anything he can remember from when Big-Shot Spamton was the most popular guy around so he can stay relevant, like when shitty TV shows try to put dated internet memes in.
>COWABUNGA-DERO! THAT'S THE SMOOTH TASTE OF TV TIME!
>>713606369Why couldn't Dess abduct Berdly instead?
>>713605682Lucky you nigga
>>713598481Yes. Together with the six dead kids. Woodyschizos will finally get their cowboy, too.
>>713606395Who the fuck is this random anime boy with the stupid hair?
>>713600337Those are girls, THOUGH.
>>713606343Has anyone considered the possibility that FRIEND is actually Gaster?
Heres my theory yall:
KRIS- anagram for Frisk just missing the F, why missing the F?
Because kris is Frisk fused with Chara, CHA, and KA, make the same sound, so when chara and frisk fused, instead of Chris, to hide his identity he changed it to K.
Thoughts?
>>713606617The left hand and right hands of God. and the third arm
>>713601550I laughed at Krisellefags.
>>713606634>She killed millions.Adopted kids?
>>713606617FRIEND is just Gaster's cat. Don't look up what he named it.
>>713606334If you actually had a point you would have actually said what it is instead of trying to act smarmy.
I gave up genocide route like 10 minutes in with the toriel fight... i couldnt hurt her more than once
>>713606624So we're supposed to assume frisk and chara are a pair of waddling fatties?
>>713605026False. Toby said to me Frisk and Chara are cute girls.
>>713606729>the 7 flying aces, the gumball machine and the pipe ice-e'sdidn't leave anyone out huh
>>713606729>>713606968wait I just realized
WHERE'S JEVIL
>>713606861Yeah she deserves rape correction, not murder.
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>>713606729>He forgot the ManWhoever drew this is a fucking secondary
>>713606735Gone away is the blue bird, folks!
>>713606624Vessel has Frisk stripes and is an extension of our will just like Frisk is, Kris has the same "Important Person" stripe Chara has and they are also a distinct person separate from the player.
>>713606967Yes, cute girls(male)
the best kind of girl
>>713605652>AI thinks they're maleMore proof AI is full of shit.
>>713596862I will only accept Tasque Manager.
Yeah these threads are starting to become generals
>>713606525No idea. Someone replace him with a generic anon or smth.
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I can't believe Spamton's character will be forever associated with that fox cunt that killed herself
>>713607319No. Cute girls (female). Men will never be women.
>>713605546Thematically, it's way more interesting. Undertale kinda was bioshock/kotor 1 tier morality "are you a murderer, a super murderer or saint Jesus the first" and relied a lot more on WOOAAAWGGH LEMME SUBVERT RPG TROP3. And more or less despite the lauded pacifist shit it pretty much just is the SMT devil recruiting with a plotline taken from moon. It really relies too hard on metabullshit and expectations of the genre. It's also obnoxiously preachy to a fault and beats you over the head with it. It doesnt let you ever draw your own conclusions. It's strength mostly comes from the characters which Toby wrote strongly
Deltarune has more to say. And says more interestingly
>determinism/fatalism >issues of fighting roles people have put you into (Spamton, Kris, Noelle, Lancer, Susie hell even Ralsei all share this through line)>issues of growing up as an awkward weird teen and not belonging (Susie, Kris and Noelle)>dangers of self inserting and destroying a character and a story just so you feel like you belongIt combines interesting character writing with a less obnoxiously preachy story with a lot more substance to it. Even if it's still riffing off Moon a bit.
Hell the Dark Worlds themselves are waaaay more interesting a concept than the underground ever was.
I do have some shit to shovel on Chapter 3 tho
Five Zelda sections and a shitload of warioware followed by a short and linear dark world with barely any exploration. Had to redo the final sword thing because the egg was then unobtainable which pissed me off. Tenna himself was a fun fight.
I think I enjoyed it but a lot of the chapter feels like filler in a bad way with the side content draining the main like gameplay loop.
Knight caused me to drop the game for a bit gonna try redoing it but the Egg stuff pissed me the fuck off so then having a ball crushing superboss It was too much but hopefully I'll overcome it this go around
>>713592997Is there any more art of Susie and Kris like this? Them both being into each other but not admitting it