He's still hiding things. Do not trust the goat.

what's left to discuss at this point?

I have feelings for Carol Holiday.

>>713895875 (OP)
He's smiling :D

>>713896003
What will Noelle and Kris name their offspring?

>>713896075
krismas

>>713896003
I'll start
Why are you such a faggot?

>>713896075
Dess

>>713896075
Hanna or Hank, short for Hanukkah

Migging.

>>713895875 (OP)
The game will end in chapter 7 and people will STILL think that Ralsei is evil somehow.

>>713895875 (OP)
What is your honest reaction when you see this?

>>713896182
>People try to act like Kris is just a friend

>>713896075
>Kris and Noelle have a child and (you) inhabit it as a vessel and choose it's name
fund it

>>713896291
rape

>>713896073
>keep smiling

>>713896330
I POSSESED YOUR KID KRIS
YOU'RE MY DAD NOW

>>713896291
I want to pet him and rub his ears of course and tell him everything will be alright.

is susie really the "the girl" in the prophecy? seems like a red herring

>>713896330
>>713896408
The baby is You.

Nice

>>713896182
But Kris/Noelle makes more sense
they're childhood friends
they had
chemistry
in chapter 2
it would be better...
for everyone involved...

Ah, fuck it, I just can't do that anymore.

>>713896330
>The entity that helped improve Kris' life and gave him reason to keep living takes up residence in his child, and Kris knows it
>Or
>The entity that forced Kris into breaking and ultimately emotionally enslaving his childhood friend to the point of trapping her with his child is forced to watch as his child is targeted by the very same entity, thus continuing the cycle
That is either a Grimm fairy tale or a fucking horror story, there.

COMING STRAIGHT FROM (YOU)R HOUSE

>>713896496
The prophecy is vague enough that anyone can be anything. It's why Gerson spends the entire chapter trying to get them to realize it's all bullshit.

>>713896631
HE'S THE [ONE]
CUMMING

BRING ME SUNNY

>>713896631
COMING

>>713896556
>>713896182
I refuse to believe that Toby Fox wrote this shit and didn't intend it as romantic interest. Nobody on earth is that autistic.

When will she appear?

FOE OUTSIDE YOU

>>713896774
She already appeared in spirit

>>713896291
>sixth sense tells him we're looking
>guilty look over his shoulder
>right after he was trying to find something and didn't want you to know about it
The ear dance was a tactical decision to distract us

*MUNCH *MUNCH* *MUNCH* Oh, bone man, what brings you here...? ...Ah. You are here to RAVAGE the mother of my CHILDREN... Well.... ONKEY DONKEY, TORI'S WAITING IN THE BEDROOM!?!?!?! THANKEROONIES FOR THE FREE PICKLE!!!!!!!

>>713896631
...don't forget

>>713896330
>>713896624
Kino

>>713896774
Flower King dark world. She'll represent the conspiracies that Asgore has on his board, the web of connections as he tries to find the truth.

>>713896871
>YABBA DABBA DOO

>>713896861
Susie noticed you too, she was hiding practicing her healing

>>713896774
Never because Toby doesn't actually have the rights to Muffet and I doubt he's going to license her for a cameo.

>>713896182
Susellefags be like
>Wow, Susie and Kris are such good friends!

>>713896631
>>713896875
Doesn't this faggot tv show host get GLOOBY sometimes?

>>>/vg/
no one likes this game

>>713896761
I mean, Kris is literally his self-insert. You really think he would hang him out to dry?

>>713896774
>Fucking So Sorry got a cameo appearance before her

>>713896952
>Never because Toby doesn't actually have the rights to Muffet
I refuse to believe the guy who owns her would say no considering how much love she got in UT.

>>713896003
We can discuss how much we want to unload our balls into the various characters

>>713896962
Don't have a race in the shipping war but I've seen some people refer to their relationship as "sibling coded". Whatever that means. She did fit in Asriel's old church clothing.

>>713896963
there's no way, he would never be glooby

>>713896861
He can dance for me anytime

>>713896951
Yeah, but she was already looking in the general direction of the telescope, so she could plausibly notice out of the corner of her eye. Ralsei snapped his view around almost the full 180 when we looked at him

>>713897008
Explain the constant threads then.
At least send us to /vrpg/ next time, we have a nice thread in there

>>713896871
>feeds him every day with free pickles
what a nice guy

>>713895875 (OP)
I cum in the goat

>>713897101
Susie and Rudy will kick his ass.

>>713897059
>sibling coded
The ultimate cope, retards on Twitter will be calling blatant shit like Rome and Juliet “Sibling coded”

>>713897059
>sibling coded
As a man who has siblings, I can tell you with 100% certainty that the way Kris and Susie interact is not sibling-ish. Maybe some of the goofier moments, but the way Kris describes Susie in battles like that is not the kind of terminology I would use with my sister.

Oh no janny is susellefag.

Reminder that genocide is canon.

>every single thread will be the exact same shit until the game points out that Kris and Noelle are just stooges using Susie as a standin for Asriel/Dess and that’s why they put up with her Mary Sue behavior
grimmy

susie will put on the ribbon

It is the canon pairing after all

>>713897424
The chair awaits.

>>713897070
So, one of the two people that he's desperately hiding the prophecy knows now. Do you think if we ever learn about its over and that'll it occur so he does everything in his power to make sure we don't learn of it?

>>713897424
>most popular lesbian pairing shows the characters having zero chemistry and is only wanted because of progressive points
Just like real life

>>713897070
>Look at picture
>Expected tip of penis to be visible under his robe like that one picture of Asriel
I need to get away from this place

>>713897424
>>713897480
>>713897493
>samefag

>>713897493
krusie has great chemistry, though.

>janny kills last thread at bump limit
What a seething bitch.

>>713896330
can't believe toby put all of his fetishes into a b-side of his dream project
what a legend

Chara was Undertale's greatest mistake and one of the biggest reasons why detractors write the whole game off as pseud nonsense, and the game would be much better without their inclusion.

>>713897593
What's even the point of doing that? So it doesn't reach the archive?

>>713895875 (OP)
>Susie joins the party
>Charjoined plays
>Noelle joins the party
>Charjoined plays
>Ralsei joins the party
>...
I'm on to you, you little shit.

>>713896003
why does toby refuse to let "lost girl" be translated?

https://youtu.be/LDZX4ooRsWs?si=f_Xo28-ZmaxGYFMr

>>713897493
>most popular
Not anymore!

>>713897513
Ralsei penis will always exist in your heart

Is it pronounced "Ralsay" or "Ralsee"

most sane shipkek

>>713896075
You mean Susie

>>713897684

>>713897678

>>713897678
Chara would've been fine if she just explained her motivations in-universe instead of being "I AM LE DEMON, I AM LE YOU'RE LV AND EXP"

>>713897939
Ral-say

>>713897684
>>713897962
Completely normal sibling behavior btw

>>713897769
My God, Noelle is Chara???

>>713897678
TRVTH.

>>713896182
Why did Tobert added this scene?

I bet the housing market in the dark world is fucking terrible lmao

>>713897939
ラルセイ

>>713896075
Christmas.

>>713897939
Raylz eye

>>713898035
No. She's actually UT!Asriel except she actually went through killing people.

>>713896538
I helped!

My FUARKING hero

>>713898091
Well duh, Susie kicked every house.

>>713897678
Looking back at it now that I'm older, it's actually funny that Chara is actually really straightforward and easy to comprehend, the fanbase is simply full of brainlets juiced on headcanon because they actively skip anything that they're not forced to engage with (see also: the people in these very threads who fully skipped Chapter 3 of Deltarune)

im convinced the actual Kris HATES Susie

>>713897939
it's pronounced ralsay, what kind of deltarune fan are you if you don't know toby confirmed this in chapter 2

sans is a filthy demon

>>713898186
Kris likes her a lot, actually

>>713898179
Anyone who doesn't get it likely never even played undertale at all, much less the genocide route.
Anyone who bitches about it 100% never played genocide, but likely watched it.

>>713898186
Noelle…

>>713897939
Ralsay, but I say it lazily so it sounds like either Ralsee or Ralseh

>>713898186

>>713898306
Which is a problem, because he was hoping she would be as unlikable as she appeared to everyone.

>noelle red pixel is called blood_drip
>tfw no red soul inside of her womb
>tfw susie isn't a special half human, just a monster in the dr verse
>tfw it was probably Kris who was supressing our options in the red time stop screen
grim...

>>713898270
Sans is a demon in bed

>>713898362
That was (SOUL)Kris

>>713897780
Dess is removed from the json language files lol, also
>crying, crying, crying boy
Toby let dessriel be real and not doomed do it for him

>>713897678
I feel like Toby wasn't really confident on what or whom Chara is really supposed to be. On one hand they're very much a tangible character with a concrete backstory (Asriel's asshole adopted human brother), but at the same time they're simultaneously supposed to be an abstract concept representing the player's drive for completion, right down to them having the same name as whatever the player normally names their JRPG protagonists. I think it would've been better to split those concepts into two separate characters because it feels too messy and nonsensical as is.

You guys didn't tell me the dyke pairing was forced if you weren't doing the snowgrave thing. now how am I supposed to cuck the blue bird when I'm the cuck

>>713898186
I'm waiting for Susie to have a nuclear meltdown when she realizes that her "friends" are still hiding shit behind her back

>Mom is a fucking whore who fucks whatever dick she can get while you listen upstairs
Why did Toby make Toriel into such a evil person this time around?

>>713898454
>but at the same time they're simultaneously supposed to be an abstract concept representing the player's drive for completion
enter Flowey

>>713898169
what's this a reference to

>>713898524
>Adult woman decides to have one (1) night of fun
>Somehow this is a bad thing
Stop being an incel

>>713898448
He gets fucked in every universe and ofc, we have to clean whatever mess is left and he's always related to said mess.

>>713897918
>Sans and Toriel at the same level of popularity as Kris and Berdly
But no, I'm sure Soriel fans are the majority

>>713896963
>cool dialogue like gerson quoting his undertale self and tenna having a breakdown about being glooby hidden behind being bad at video games
why

>>713898524
what if sans is a long term family friend of the dreemurs who just moved into town
he already knows Asgore's favorite food, and knows who Kris's mother is despite never meeting him before

Reveal for [HYPERLINK BLOCKED]

>>713898743
oh yeah well how about THIS watercooler lewd pic

>>713898454
the same name as whatever the player normally names their JRPG
This is Asriel imprinting the fallen on You unknowingly.

>>713898743

>>713897678
To add on to this, I truly don't think Sans is acting as a mouthpiece for Toby, and that the point of the judgment scene wasn't to judge you, the player, but due to Chara's existence it comes off that way. "Genocide is a punishment towards you" or "Toby doesn't want you to have fun with what you're doing" are extremely shallow and incorrect takes when you consider the two highest effort boss fights are genocide exclusive.
Of course, the while spiel about Execution Points and Level of Violence is extremely full of itself and better off cut, but that's news to absolutely no one

>>713898698
The same reason there's dialogue hidden behind being very good at video games (beating the knight without getting hit). No one is likely to encounter either naturally.

>>713898018
Of course! I mean, what kind of brother doesn't want to marry their sister and have a family with her in a loving relationship? It's just sibling love!

>>713898679
Both ships took a beating in chapter 4. Berdly didn't kept his character development from Chapter 2 and became even more insufferable somehow, while relationship between Sans and Toriel was shown in a very bad light.

>>713896538
>Undertale has the triple of Deltarune.
Makes sense with such sex bombs.
>>713897056
This.
>>713897678
Wrong. This is just what brainlets say because they didn't understand the story or it goes against their headcanons.

>>713896774
Never. Just like this shit.>>713896789

>>713897232
>>713897217
They are not sibling coded but i fear Tobert might cuck Krusie by sibling zoning them in chapter 5. All we need to see is Susie backstroy where she's parentless and living alone, and then Toriel adopting her

>>713897918
>Toriel and Dess
wut

>>713896871
Asgorefags forget he's Sans BITCH.

>>713897014
>Kris is a self-insert
>Annoying Dog is a self-insert
>Gaster is a self-insert
How many self inserts does he need

>>713898270
Do you remember when people who didn't play the game and only watched youtube theories thought that the chapter 3 icon was always the knight because they didn't know Tenna had teeth? That sure was stupid!

I still haven't done the weird route and I can't force myself to
I can't be sadistic to video game characters
I just can't do it

>>713898938
>Undertale has the triple of Deltarune
Retard, I told you in the last thread - underale_(series) tag is a blanket tag for both Undertale and Deltarune

>>713896963
HE'S NEVER GLOOBY! NEVER!

>>713896330
We as Kris impregnate Noelle and are forcefully ejected from his body and inhabit the vessel. Our wife decides to run away with her dyke Susie and cucks us of our daughter. We inhabit the child but can't control her, and can only watch as they live their life.

>>713899096

>>713898186
look how much he hates her

>>713898179
present your interpretation then

>>713898938
Undertale_(series) encapsulates all of UT, DR and UTYellow

>>713898721
If he was a long term family friend, Toriel wouldn't have asked Kris if he had met Mr. Sans. If he was such a good friend beforehand, Toriel or Asgore would have mentioned him to Kris at some point in the past.

>>713899129
To be fair if you play straight from Ch2 -> 3 without checking the chapter select you won't see it

>>713898454
considering all the shit flowey says in genocide, and the possible interpretation of "all fallen children are previous players", chara being an asshole that wanted to escape human world and fight some monsters works perfectly well as both a conventional character and a vidya player
it's the "it's (you) / it's ME" narration and the ending of genocide that is needlessly convoluted, especially the SINCE WHEN WERE YOU THE ONE IN CONTROL part that basically goes against everything sans condemns (you) for

I AM PRINCE RALSEI, PRINCE OF THE BLACKS

>>713898270
>demon
>ate my pancakes
>stole my vessel
he will PAY

i feel like it was a weird decision making gerson the secret boss. i mean i know most people will do it the first time around because it's obvious, but it's still optional and the rest of his parts in the chapter make a lot less sense if you happen to skip over it. like susie caring so much about him and him suddenly showing up powered up in the end

>>713899075
Was probably supposed to be Asriel x Dess probably, but someone had a mother of all brainfarts.

>>713898454
shut up andrew cunningham

>>713897393
Cute.

>>713899231
HANDLE FIRST, you goddamn autist. Didn't Toriel taught you any manners?

i think it would be funny if everyone gets a happy ending except Sans getting time and spaced fucked into the Undertale universe

Handjob but it's on a long snoot like Ceroba, stroke it until it sneezes

>>713898810
I'll add to this: Sans is actually mistaken about you. He thinks that you're the sole cause of the constant temporal anomalies, when in fact he'd been tracking Flowey's bullshit all along.

>>713899269
>especially the SINCE WHEN WERE YOU THE ONE IN CONTROL part
This always came across to me like ESLs being confused that the moment we step into Asgore’s room you don’t have any actual gameplay option to back out of the route anymore, outside of closing out the window as a last-minute save

slut

>>713897678
You're telling me you didin't think the sonic.exe tier jumpscare was absolutely terrifying and totally worth the hours of grind?

>>713899489

>>713899301
I hope snarlinger makes another vid

>>713899276
>>ate my pancakes
nothing indicates sans ate our pancakes, its just what kris chooses to point out

>>713898524
This scene gave me PTSD

>>713899381
unironically the first thing that came to mind when i first saw that scene

>>713898810
>when you consider the two highest effort boss fights are genocide exclusive
Yes, but consider the route getting there. Hunting down every single encounter in a given area is not fun, it's tedious and boring. Undyne the Undying and Sans being nice and challenging only partly makes up for the boring path to get there.

>>713897883
Noelle would NOT twerk to this

>>713899489
my mom literally fell over drunk and severely hurt herself recently and fucked over everyone else in the family

>>713899532
>TM Dashboard toy
>Starwalker on the backseat
Funny

>>713896182
>trying to ask Susie for a ferris wheel ride
>Kris stops me and encourage Susie to go with Noelle

>>713898524
>asgore is even more of a punching bag
>sans is a dickhead
>toriel is a whore
>undyne jobs immediately
>okay there's nothing wrong with alphys
>papyrus is gone
>guy who goes "This is The Friendly RPG Where Nobody Has To Die™" gets his shit pushed in then kills somebody
Does Toby secretly dislike Undertale?

I feel like I’m the only person that enjoyed genocide because the dreary atmosphere of the slowed music, the NPCs vanishing (because they’re running from you), and every other way the world actually “reacts” to what you’re doing more than made up for the grind

>>713898454
>>713898454
The concept is that the soul we are controlling in UT is both chara and frisk, but the more LV you have the stronger chara's "portion" of it is

>>713898721
No he isn't, he doesn't know who Kris is

https://youtu.be/YtNkhb9OnVU

>>713899824
>>okay there's nothing wrong with alphys
Yet

>>713898790
SAVE ME NIGGERFRIEND I AM GOING INSANE

>>713899771
Impossible.
But it's probably what is going to happen if you choose Noelle instead. He has to distance himself from her for some reason.

>>713898810
>Of course, the while spiel about Execution Points and Level of Violence is extremely full of itself and better off cut, but that's news to absolutely no one
Mate there are undertalefags who will defend anything. In fact things are probably at their most reasonable right now in that with recent new content the thread are less filled diehard fanboys who don't necessarily worship the ground toby walks on.

>>713899846
i enjoyed it too, it's a proper creepypasta.

>>713899824
He likes the money it brought him but clearly resents it and especially it's fans

>>713899489
>Kris has to watch his mother, someone he cares deeply for, act like a drunken idiot in the presence of a relative stranger, someone who makes it clear he hates Kris and is enjoying his suffering
>"WhY cAn'T ToRiEl HaVe FuN?"

I don't know when I took a screenshot of this.

>>713899532
death

>>713899880
he knew who Kris's mother is despite having never seen kris before

>>713898790
YOU DIDIN'T EVEN SPOILER IT FAGGOT

>>713896761
Don't underestimate the power of autism

>>713898454
I think chara works because, like us the player, he doesn't win in any sense of word. He either stays dead and lets his ambition go, or he helps us grow strong and become a true demon. Asriel may be stuck as flowey, but he knows what love feels like. Chara doesnt, he's from a different world with different rules and different people. He sees the monster kingdom the same way we do, full of interesting characters to love and kill. We're both little human freaks looking into the monster world from the outside.

>>713900028
damn it i forgot to. my perfect jape ruined, like a turd in the rain

>>713899824
Asgore and Alphys will get their redemption arc. But no, I just think it's just a different game and he wants to make it clear. Then again, Sans was a dickhead and Toriel was an alcoholic bitch in Undertale too, he just spelled it out explicitly now.

>>713900021
She came at his store

>>713899824
Toby Fox HATES Undertale and HATE his fans and HATES YOU for buying his game and playing it in the way he deliberately chose to include in his game

>>713899771

>>713898186
He hates her so much he saves her from (You), see >>713898062 for an act of pure hatred

>>713900129
She most certainly did

>>713899846
I wish I could kill Monster Kid and Alphys with all the others who evacuated.

>>713900129
TO his store.

>>713899482
>dude when you're in cutscene mode you have no control, what clever commentary on the agency of video game players
what's this dumbass apologia? did you forget that the line only comes up if you explicitly refuse to "destroy this worthless world" when given the choice?
if you are all-in on "chara is a manifestation of rpg number grinding", i can at least understand that from the allegorical position of "mindless grinding consumes literally everything if you let it", but it's precisely because that only ever comes up in that very last scene that it seems so poorly thought out
and even if i concede the allegorical interpretation, it is still terrible because undertale is no diablo, the grind is boring, sans' sentiment of "you will kill everyone not out of inherent evilness, but because you can, and because you can -- you have to" works much better as a commentary on I HAVE TO SEE ALL THE CONTENT TO GET MY MONEY'S WORTH attitude

I want to force susie to wear girly clothes

>>713899846
You love the idea of it but the actual execution always gives off the "afterthought" feel.

Snowgrave manages to be simultaneously better and worse in that regard. There's much less "I made it boring on purpose!" grinding and the concept of the route is far more intriguing. But then you find out that massive amounts of the game is completely unchanged by the route.

>>713898186
WRONG.
>>713898270
Sans saved Toriel. He's a hero.

>>713900157
The can shaped Kris is hilarious.

>>713900157
>you are a too l

>>713900216

>>713899771
To be fair, Kris has pretty low self-esteem. It wouldn't surprise me if he does like Susie but wants to push her to Noelle because he doesn't want her to waste her time with him.

>>713900134
>pic
I think that happened to me in 2015

>>713900157
>wing that ding
Kek

>>713898412
Grim if true.

>>713900367
Gee I wonder who could be behind this post.

>>713900214
flower vines typed this poast

>>713900505
you can see it right there, anon

>>713900367
What the fuck, that's the most CVCK shit I've read this week

>>713900367
Kris isn't Ralsei. Kris is selfish and impulsive, even hedonistic. The only thing holding Kris back is being a shy autist, but they have GUTS now. They're not going to let Susie go.

>>713897678
Since we are talking about it, how would (You) rewrite the genocide route ending, /v/?
Yellow did a pretty good job on making a genocide route thanks to clover having a character behind him, you can't really do that with Frisk since he's practically acts as our vessel for the game
so I'm curious what direction UT genocide route should be and how should Chara's role be in this route

>>713900157
>one of these shitposts somehow predicted that tenna will be huge

>>713898412
I don't know why everyone's hung up on Susie being half human because she was able to make a fountain. Berdly was about to make one in Ch 2 yet everyone forgets that because they think that because the fountain requires 'determination', it's a human only thing.

>>713900157

I don't think the knight is Dess just because Toby already did that same exact twist already

>>713898454
That's because you are a brainlet. Chara is both. Alive Chara is Asriel’s best friend and what you said. Dead Chara is a demon and a concept. Undertale fans can't understand anything that is abstract.

>>713900883
The people who play these games are fucking retards who will spend years masturbating to YouTube Theory Slop instead of playing and reading the actual fucking game

>>713900883
I don't know why everyone's hung up on Susie being half human as though that dumb shit would ever happen

>>713900367
Personally my take is that Kris, being controlled by an otherwordly entity, thinks that they couldn't possibly begin a romantic relationship when the vast majority of his actions aren't even their own

genocide is realizing that chawa is our actual vessel and frisk is only needed for their fleshy meat body

>>713898679
Soriel was never a popular ship and both Asgoriel and Frans eclipsed it in popularity.

>>713901045
Monsters don't bleed until Toby forgets about his own worldbuilding and they do

>>713900978
i dunno i think >>713897780 is very strong evidence for it

>>713900975
>Dess: "NOT AGAIN!"

>>713900805
>remove chara
>keep his dialogue but give it to flowey
>flowey still thinks that he has the upper hand and gives you the offer
>kill him
>there is nothing left

Cooked up a schizo theory for fun
Noelle genocide route
Assuming you take control of Noelle at some point some way

>fighting enemies lose them, leaving castle town empty
>instead you do pacifist route
>recruit everyone in all chapters except Noelle section
>do snowgrave in Noelle section
>eventually Kris betrays you
>the gang doesn't side with Kris because you did the pacifist route
>control Noelle
>you can now go to castle town
>you can freeze everyone you couldn't from every chapter
>Noelle gets stronger
>allowing this is the reason why the chapters didn't change in gameplay during weird route
>this isn't referenced in code because it's not necessary yet, so it can't be datamined either

Alternatively, without directly controlling Noelle, this could happen in chapter 5 even, because as said by Carol, in the weird route Noelle wants to be with Kris, so they together can go to castle town instead. Kris might not even fight back since Noelle is a lost cause at that point and because it's implied that he secretly enjoyed it.

>>713901142
'Only humans bleed' is an Undertale thing, not a Deltarune one.

perfect for a cumjar

>>713899153
>>713899250
Oh. The thread got deleted so I didn't see that.

>>713901142
Hey *snap* *snap* Check the sign
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|
v

DELTARUNE =/= UNDERTALE

>>713895875 (OP)
I have finally completed both a normal route and weird route after only seeing threads in the catalog but not opening them. I assume the Knight is Noelle's mother, unless they want to get weird with it and the Knight is actually a dead monster attached to Kris's knife after he killed someone with it (probably Noelle's sister in that case).

>>713901142
>>713901210

>>713899129
it was always the knight, dumbass. high quality deduction skills.

>>713901210
>>713901254
One of the monsters asks Kris if it hurts to be made of blood
There isn't really any cope for this, Toby is just a retard

so how come noelle couldn't see the soul flying around in her room? kris hid it from her before, implying it's something he needs to hide

>>713900805
Avoiding the Chara/Frisk/(You) confusion would require rewriting the entire game. It's a fundamental flaw with the premise. Undertale is an incredible game but it was simply not meant to seriously explore the relationship between the player and the player character, but now Deltarune can do it.

>>713900975
>Blockbuster
Is there finally a counter to Rude Buster?

>>713900367
>the absolute state of reddit posters

>>713900805
Rip off OFF wholesale, and end on a melancholic note instead of creepypasta-tier AND THEN HE STEALS YOUR SOUL AND WHEN YOU GO TO SURFACE YOU DO A SPOOKY SMILE AND KILL EVERYONE.
You defeat Sans, Flowey still kill-steals Asgore, and then you kill him. Now you're back in the throne room, and can reach the barrier. The barrier still requires a human and a monster soul to cross. Every monster that is technically alive is hiding somewhere that is beyond your reach. As a parallel to pacifist's victory lap, you can take a quiet walk back to flowerbed on the very first screen. Then lie back down and close your eyes for good. Congratulations, you have beat the game, and saw everything it had to offer.
Nothing remains except for our regrets.

>>713901221
We shoulde formeth a teame for thiseth my little deltarune cume jare projecte

>>713901325
>tenna's smile changes to knight's visor
Wowie

>>713901142

>>713900975
what the fuck

>>713901342
eyes closed

>>713900367
Go back to plebbit, cuck

>>713899824
No. Undertale is literally getting a celebration this year. Why is /v/ filled with retarded contrarians?

>>713901342
She was focused on Kris

>>713901510
she just happens to have her eyes closed the entire time we're able to fly around before kris runs out the room with her? that's kinda stupid

>>713901337
Yeah, a young kid monster who asks dumb questions like that because he doesn't know. That's not the voice of Toby himself coming down and saying 'blood is a human thing only'

>>713901458
STOP NOTICING

>>713899824
All of the constant Papyrus cockteasing with absolutely zero payoff plus Sans being a total asshole makes it pretty obvious that he hates Undertale fans which i can't blame him for

>>713901586
see >>713901572

>>713901317
You trust Susie that couldn't immediatly figure out it was Gerson's ashes in the globe.

My fringe opinion is that Chara has the complete opposite problem of Kris where Chara is someone you can name and naming them after yourself sinks it what their role in Genocide is but people UN-self insert so hard they just distance away and view them as a totally separate and unrelated character from themselves (compared to people just wholly using Kris as a self-insert for romance)

Why is Kris doing this to us? I want to have fun, too...
https://files.catbox.moe/24ke64.jpeg

>>713900883
>>713901012
I know the Deltaverse has different rules but even in Undertale it was hinted that Monsters have some sort of natural Determination or that they can “develop” it, it’s just extremely dwarfed by that which a human possesses. Undyne melts when you kill her, something that only happens because monster bodies can’t handle DT. Killing her in neutral even makes her shout “I WON’T DIE” over and over, alluding to one of Determination’s main functions being the resolve to return from death and live on.
>>713901080
Revisionism

>>713901590
>entire writing falls apart the second you actually remember what the NPCs say and the only excuse people can cook up is "uhhh the npcs are retarded and nothing they say matters"
Dogshit writing

>>713901572
Somebody make an edit where she kisses him at the end

>>713901746
The SOUL will watch from the cage

>>713901437
the only way you could think it's tenna's smile is if you're deliberately being wrong.

>>713901842
don't worry
suicidalpixel is on to that

>>713901842
dats gay

>>713901746
Stop posting Chapter 5 spoilers!

The three heroes would have died a LONG time ago if it weren't for this CHAD. It can dodge ANY attack and it can pull off Deus ex machinas to save them (see vs Spamton, see chapter 4)
Kris should be GRATEFUL

>>713900805
I would remove any of the metaphors and make it clear Chara talks to Frisk at the end, and that in True Pacifist Flowey is talking to Chara. Most of the problems ITT are autists overthinking stuff and adding a bunch of shit that isn't in the game and then complaining it doesn't make sense. Making it be like Yellow where genocide is "good" would ruin the game, and so would be removing the vagueness that allows for infinite fan works.

>>713901804
>conflicting statements create ambiguity and intrigue about a subject
>subject is later clarified with definitive proof
WOOOOOOOW

>>713901881
ch. 2 ending? it's the same kind of smile?

>>713901889
>Guess what
Susie butt

>>713901746
zamn the monster HRT hit Asriel hard

Takes that you would believe too if you weren't chronically online:
>This game is not associated in any way with Undertale
>Suselle is going to be canon
>Gaster is not in this story
>Sans and Toriel thing was just a joke

>>713901881
Get off Youtube and play the game

>>713901746
I wonder what how Asgore would react to this.

>monster's don't bleed

>>713902078
that's his cum

>>713901804
because as we all know, small children of an entirely diferent species are all qualified experts in the matters of human physiology

>>713902014
>This game is not associated in any way with Undertale
PLAY
THE
GAME

You guys DID do an abandoned snowgrave route in one of your saves, right? Don’t you want to get your hands on that twisted knife and unlock Kris’s true potential?

>>713902078
his belly was simply full of delisus ketchup :)

>>713902121
>humans piss and shid when they die
>monsters cum and dust
deepest lore Toby...

>>713902078
>ketchup theory
I mean a skeleton bleeding just raises further questions.

>>713901804
that same child does ask if monsters scare kris

>>713902073
He would cheer for his boy.

>>713902052
nice cropping skills anon.

protip: the knight is a lightner. it has teeth. I don't understand how the knight having teeth confuses or bothers you this much

>>713900883
retardo, Berdly was about to make a fountain in chapter 2
>uhh but maybe Berdly and Queen were wrong and my hallucinated story that only humans can make them is right?
Ralsei knows everything and was freaking out at Berdly doing this

>>713899673
Right, but I don't think Toby was trying to make a statement or make you feel bad as a person for choosing to do Genocide by slowing the encounter rate down. It's a concept that sounds absolutely fine on paper: you are systemically hunting the monsters down, and therefore they should show up less. It's supposed to make the act feel more diagetic to what you're doing. The problem comes from actually trying to implement this idea without it being boring, and sadly I don't think Toby hit the mark. I really don't think it's meant to be something that dissuades you from what you're doing at all. Sans is his own character, and Toby isn't speaking through Sans -- that's the point I'm trying to get across.

>>713901783
>Revisionism
Just check A03 tags, dude. Soriel was always only liked by antis because it isn't problematic, but it's not actually that popular.

>>713901325
>>713901881
The knight sneaked into the house and displayed the photo of her visor on the TV while it was turning into Tenna just to fuck with you

>>713897678
I just wish that him and Frisk could have interacted in the normal route.

Because Chara in genocide just seems to talk with (you) the player and not frisk.

>>713897918
>Spamton Tenna
Uhm based?

>>713902078
Sans is from deltaurne

>>713902172
NTA but I kind of wanted to play deltarune first because 1. it has a free demo and 2. I find the setting and designs more interesting. Should I play UT first still even if I'm a filthy secondary who spoiled myself for both games by being a outside observer?

Seriously what the FUCK is up with the ICE-E Heads in Ch 3 on the hell board mini game

so is the game going to be more tragic than undertale?

>>713901416
>Parallel True Pacifist with a free roam section
Unironically would have been kino but that doesn't parallel OFF at all. Once you kill Hugo you can't leave The Room.

>>713902206
¿?

Toriel is whoring again....

>>713902014
Accurate. I am chronically online and I don't believe any of those.

>>713902206
Your skeleton is literally the part of your body that produces blood.

https://deltarune.com/icepalace_glaceir/

>>713902264
>TV appears on screen
>"I-IT'S THE KNIGHT BECAUSE IT'S WRITTEN!"
Retard.

>>713902441
>Pipes lead to the underground bunker that spams the entire city
>The darkworld there is ice related
>They mixed together by being close and they just came out there

>>713897918
>Kris x Noelle this low
Why the fuck?

>>713902356
Chara IS talking to Frisk. The idea that she isn't only started because people try to apply Deltarune rules to Undertale.

>>713901889
She is adorable

>>713902273
Re-read my post anon, that's the point I'm making. Susie's done it, Berdly was about to, Queen implies that Noelle and basically everyone else can, and there are plenty of Dark Fountains around town that were made by someone other than Kris.
I'm saying that everyone who says
>Susie must be half human because only humans can make fountains due to muh determination
have already been proven wrong, they just can't accept it.

>>713902560
Turdmblr

>>713897918
>spamton and jevil that low
I know SpamTenna is popular but still, not a fucking chance dude. This poll probably has very little votes on it for that to be the case.

>>713902413
NTA. Play Undertale first.

>>713902413
unironically yes
you may think you know everything by having seen it all from the outside but youd be surprised how much of your “knowledge” is just widely accepted headcanon
>>713902078
>>713902187
>>713902206
regarding ketchup theory, i dont think its true, but i think sans drinking ketchup was an intentional misdirect to explain the discrepancy in the worldbuilding until toby was able to make deltarune.

>>713902413
Yes, you get a lot out of thinking you know the Deltarune characters already.

>>713902501
I'd fuck the brains out of that slut.

>>713902073
Kris, being his adoptive son, is the one person Asgore would be okay with dicking down Toriel. Because if he can't have his eggs-wife, then at least she can be with someone who he knows won't break their family apart.

>>713901889
>someone made an art before new chapters where she is pissed off about being stuffed into a silly costume
>in the actual game, she enjoys it a lot

>>713902441
Tenna's dialogue refers to the time Kris clogged the plumbing with bath bombs and caused a family fight. Won't be much of a stretch for said bath bombs to be ICE-E branded.

Why is the /vg/ thread so horny?

>>713902531
>https://deltarune.com/icepalace_glaceir/
>I was actually always afraid of electrical sockets too because I thought they were looking at me XD

Rambros...

>>713898790
gaster WOULD NEVER say this

>>713902564
I'm sure the fallen is totally talking to Frisk at the end. Especially when you do a second genocide run where they talk about things Frisk has no memory of.

>>713901746
Do you guys think SOUL and Kris will remain friends when SOUL finds his vessel from chapter 1 and is able to move and express himself without needing Kris?

>>713902730

>>713902264
Man where's that one image comparing the smile on the TV to FRIEND and it was a 1:1 match?

>>713902331
>>713902550
did you not beat the knight? it literally makes TV static sounds when you beat it. the knight is being fucky.

https://youtu.be/mXID_ClsEDs?t=459

>>713902641
>>713902650
>>713902671
Sounds good to me, thanks guys.

>>713897671
What is this?

>>713902730
everything has already been talked about sadly
at least we just need to wait a year for discussion to comeback

>>713902413
>Should I play UT first still even if I'm a filthy secondary who spoiled myself for both games by being a outside observer?
Yes, absolutely play it first. Undertale is an amazing game. Even if you know what's going to happen, it's still fun. It's a nice experience.
Just don't kill anyone and you'll be able to get the true end.

>>713902531
I honestly wish I could have read all this beforehand because it makes so much more sense now with the Sword Route.
But the paths to get to all these URLs are really such a pain, what was Toby thinking? I know it’s supposed to be earned, but still.

>>713902637
776 votes, IIRC

>>713902441
Something bad happened that's ice-related and involved the pipes, maybe as a result of something that happened when Kris was exploring the Shelter.
It's not literally ICE-E but the heads are a stand in for whatever it was.
As a child Kris thought that something was going to come up through the pipes and kill him, hence the dropping the bath bomb down the toilet and causing another family argument that Tenna starts chanelling as he goes a little crazy.

Notably, Noelle also has some weird thing around ice and snow, before Snowgrave even as she sometimes just opens one of Sans's freezers and starts staring off into space.
Maybe Kris is afraid of something Noelle did, unaware it was her that did it.

>>713902925
https://deltarune.com/catpetterz/

https://deltarune.com/egg/

https://deltarune.com/code/

https://deltarune.com/kris_dreemurr_kris/

https://deltarune.com/bluecircle/

https://deltarune.com/the_n3w3st_g1rl_g1rl/

https://deltarune.com/icepalace_glaceir/
Here.

>>713902834

I hate every character in this game exccept kris and noelle

i want ralsei to suffer

>>713903010
Thank ye kindly.

>>713902895
>everything has already been talked about sadly
We were still cranking out new theories week before release. Granted, Toby had dropped a nuclear bomb on us that is the second part of Spamton's ARG, but still. We can probably expect another care package soon.

>>713902835
>He doesn't know about the ocean waves

>>713903102
kek

>>713903102
I'm glad to see the headcanon of Ralsei not wearing anything under his robe become more widespread

>>713902782
I need her.

>>713902445
obviously there's no final freeroam in OFF but we do see judge walking around the purified zones during the credits

>>713901147
Yes Dess is indeed a lost girl. What does this have to do with the knight at all?

>>713903102
You know I never thought about this. To busy dealing with the titan.

>>713903138
>>713902835
don't you mean... AIR WAVES?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsXXKQ_nl30

>>713899771
I look like this and I will do this.

>>713902445
>Walkback through Genocide
>MTT Resort shop is empty.
>Gerson's shop is empty.
>Temmie Village is also empty. The mushroom is inanimate.
>Artifact room is open if you never solved the puzzle.
>You can pick up the artifact. It's useless.
>The Dog Room in Snowdin is also open. It's empty.

>>713902730
The gooners are moving to their own general on trash
>>>/trash/76032406

>>713903102
There's nothing wrong with complimenting your bros junk

This is what Kris' daily life with Toriel looks like.

>>713902441
>>713902554
>>713902975
it's the sewer. it's in the sewer.

>>713902014
>Suselle is going to be canon
>a character has a crush on another character, thus it means it will become canon

I didn't know either Ed, Edd or Eddy ended up with Nazz
I didn't know Spike ended with Rarity
I didn't know Timmy ended with Trixie
I didn't know Finn ended with Bubblegum Princess
I didn't know Marco ended with Jackie
I didn't know Dipper ended with Wendy

It's almost like shallow crushes are not actually going to become canon just because one side is interested

>>713903461
LMAO

>>713903001
That's very kind of you, anon.

>>713901961
>make it clear Chara talks to Frisk
>removing the vagueness that allows for infinite fan works (would ruin the game)
wow, an avatarfag can't string together three sentences without contradicting himself, who would'a thunk

>>713902078
Undertale monsters don't bleed
Deltarune ones do

>>713901416
I feel like this is a good ending for Genocide. Just you, alone with your sins, and unlocking True Reset to undo everything only happens when you trek through the completely empty underground back to the very beginning and lie down on the flowers where you first awoke.

Maybe have one final dialog when you do: "As you stare up at the hole you fell through, at the freedom you will now never obtain, you think to yourself...was all this worth it?"
>Yes. It was fun.
>No. I feel sick.

>>713903443
>pic
WEW HOT????

So do we accept it as official voice of Dess?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLeid-bIRQA

>>713903484
>Literal Shadow of the word Mantle for the Shadow Mantle game
Getting tired of this

>>713903508
>just because one side is interested
Noelle is the one Susie invited to the festival, not Kris

>>713901961
>I would remove any of the metaphors and make it clear Chara talks to Frisk at the end, and that in True Pacifist Flowey is talking to Chara.
retard alert

>>713903484
Nah, if you check the character outlines in the title, the O doesn't quite fit, but T fits perfectly.

>>713902717
anon you are fucking retarded
the scene is too sinister for that to be the explanation

>>713899771
>DAMN YOU, SOUL
>I MAY BE FORCED TO WORK AGAINST MY FRIENDS
>I MAY HAVE ZERO AGENCY IN MY LIFE
>AND I MAY SPEND MY ENTIRE DAY BEING BACKSEAT DRIVEN BY YOU
>BUT YOU WILL NOT DENY ME GETTING CVCKED OUT OF MY WHOLESOME HECKIN' SUSELLLLLLEEEEEEE

>>713897918
damn, even the tumblrites are coming around

>>713903645
That's Temmie's voice

>>713903508
>MLPfags in this thread

>>713903745
No it's not. This is Temmie's voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZjXbcQjBYs

>>713903747
genuinely do bronies still exist
like did they disappear forever like homestuck fags

>>713903484
>>713903680
Honestly, considering FRIEND's Schroedinger paradox bullshit? I think it's meant to be both MANHOLE and MANTLE at the same time.

>>713897678
Nah. Chara's role in the story is fine and getting rid of him or changing aspects of them would make it so you'd have to rewrite 90% of the story since nearly every major plot point revolves around their past.

Personally, I think most people are being overly sensitive, get upset because they feel attacked by the ending, and hate any form of opposition from the story. At this point I just think it's par for the course and so long as any character asks them to think about what they did or stands for a cause directly opposed to the players actions people will get mad and blame them for what happened even if the game itself tells them it doesn't matter and you are allowed to take the games message however you feel.

>>713902730
Are they at least horny for hot and sexy Frisk and Chara?

>>713903870
>>>/mlp/

>>713903326
"lost girl" not being translated is very strong evidence for dess being the knight, because presumably toby didn't want it translated because it would fix the meaning of "lost" down into and thus be a spoiler, and the only meaning of "lost" that I think could plausibly be a spoiler is "Ruined or destroyed, either physically or morally; past help or hope/Hardened beyond sensibility or recovery; alienated; insensible" (from Wiktionary), which would only really seem to apply to dess if she was the knight (or at least actively working for it)
for clarity in something like the ribbicks dialogue the Japanese translation could presumably either include this sense of "lost" (which would be a spoiler) or exclude it (which would result in an inferior translation)

>>713901572
Watching Kris get uncomfortable is really cute

>>713902712
Difference is that she feels like a badass in this costume (she is a dork).

>>713902767
>Especially when you do a second genocide run where they talk about things Frisk has no memory of.
False. There's no reason Frisk doesn't remember it.
>But Frisk doesn't skip the dialogue.
Neither does Chara even when the narration is in first person and she does remember the run, obviously.

>>713903747
>>713903870
LMAO normalkeks

>>713903686
He only said it to piss off her mother. She also only said she will "take" her to festival. You can bet Susie will go to Kris first and then go to Noelle as the third wheel

>>713899458
>our reports showed a massive anomaly in the timespace continuum.
>timelines jumping left and right, stopping and starting...
>until suddenly, everything ends.
>heh heh heh...
>that's your fault, isn't it?
He knows Flowey is the cause of the timeline jumping, it's you that causes the END of the timeline.

>>713903001
>I was so scared of seeing this message as a kid, I would punish my pets so that they would NEVER fall in love. If an egg did appear, I would throw in the trash right away.

This feels likes foreshadowing

>>713895875 (OP)
I want to kill Ralsei

>>713904004
Kris is really cute...

>>713904024
>There's no reason Frisk doesn't remember it
Genocide's reset behaves exactly like a true reset. Frisk can remember between your saving and loading, but regardless in Genocide or True Pacifist, once you start over Frisk will also forget. Chara is undoubtedly talking to the player. It is the most unstuble thing ever, especially when Chara directly attacks the game window.

>>713903870
They're just waiting for an opportunity - fuckers flooded out and swarmed several boards after theirs was shutdown during the April fools event not too long ago, and they weren't even the lowest quality posters.

>>713899824
Don't you remember when Toby said "im glad deltarune is starting to stand on it's own finally" during the spamton sweepstakes? He's afraid of Deltarune fully being out, only for it to be overshadowed by Undertale. He won't release fucking MERCH of the lightners just because he has that much of a high opinion of how they're written.

>toriel iceboxed
>sans, mr. undertale himself, gets 10 lines of dialogue each chapter, toby wastes "The place it rained" to subvert your expectations when hes antagonistically fucking your mom. Despite being the only connection to Gaster and supposedly originating from Deltarune, we know even less about him 4 entire chapters in.
>papyrus is GONE, toby straight up dropped the plotline of hanging out with him (this is probably the most hack thing toby's ever done) when rewriting the game
>undyne jobbing with no resistance, with the dark world buff, when she can already bench press cars in the light world; just to wank the knight even further
>susie telling sans/toriel to shut the fuck up at the end of chapter 4
>mettaton in his cuck house forever

Anyone who got the very, very least amount of focus in UT (asgore, gerson) will be given the proper treatment. Anyone else? Conveniently written to have a significantly smaller role.

>>713903907
Personally speaking, I'm not sure how I feel about the story going from "you've just killed a small village's worth of people" to "you are now capable of ending the entire world."

>>713903686
>not Kris

>>713904112
>Noelle
>The
>Reindeer
FUAAAARK

>>713903613
That's the only vagueness I would remove because it's the main reason people don't get the ending. You can make things clearer and still keep it vague, retard-kun.

>>713903747
>hiperfixate on Teen Titans in 2004
>hiperfixate on MLP in 2010
>hiperfixate on Undertale/Deltarune in 2025
i might be autistic

>>713903010
i always thought it looked like asgores face from the undertale boss fight

>>713904063
Ponysweetiecutiepie…

>>713903102
how do you think Ralsei's ballsack smells?

>>713904259
>dont kill anyone
>can tank this and your body is still intact
Our SOVL is the key. That finnish sniper guy with 505 kills IRL in the UT world for instance wouldn't be able to do it.

>>713904510
Mares?

>>713902858
Kuro Gal to Kimodameshi
The ghost of a man that ACKed himself possesses a gyaru woman and makes her have sex with and marry some guy that turns out to be rich. He then possesses her daughter in the epilogue.

>>713901301
It's kinda' hard to imagine this middle-aged woman running around fighting kids and kidnapping cops, and she somehow got from her house to the church faster than Kris and Susie did.

But it's simultaneously hard to believe two Holiday women are conspiring with Kris. Carol seemingly knows everything the Knight does. If the Knight is Dess, and they're working together, that means Carol knows Dess is "alive" and hasn't told Rudy and Noelle, which is pretty fucked up. However, if they're not working together, that means Kris has two independent conspiracies with separate Holiday women...that's probably the most far-fetched.

>>713902775
>he thinks he will actually get his vessel
>much less get amicable with kris
kris' keikaku likely involves the soul, and i'm betting my theoryfag fluxbucks it's because the final tragedy is the sacrifice of the soul inside the first hero
little bastard is already plotting to subvert the prophecy by switching up the soul in question, so if we're really friends, you won't come back

>>713904334
/)

this thing is fun

>>713904516
like piss, duh

>>713902685
We know, Sans.

>>713896075
What kind of unholy abomination would a human and monster create? Or would it be some kind of "gets it from the mother's side" thing?

>>713904801
Proceed inside my PUSSY

>>713896761
How would the BOS treat Susie?

>>713903686
Susellefags confirmed for secondaries, more at eleven.

>I think things took a weird route right now
Do you think toby intentionally wrote this just to keep the meme alive

>>713904202
>Chara is undoubtedly talking to the player. It is the most unstuble thing ever, especially when Chara directly attacks the game window.
Chara takes Frisk's SOUL and refers it as being "yours". Chara is talking to Frisk. Again, there's no proof Frisk actually forgets. The same evidence can be applied to Chara who undoubtedly remembers.

>>713904202
Its been about 10 years or so now and some people didn't even know that Genocide's reset makes Frisk forget. Never mind the fact that it also destroys his personal folder save in the game

>>713898438
No, Kris does that without (You).

The Player is a character in Earthbound and Mother 3, and Toby shamelessly stole everything in Undertale from those games.
Chara and Flowey talking to (you) isn't an interpretation that Toby mistakenly created by being vague. You thinking sonic.exe is responsible for the buttons you pushed is just you being a dumbass

>>713900157
Unironically the best Suselle content

>"Hmm. Who should I fuck today? A gym teacher? A janitor? The local bum? Or that human who's recently moved to our town? Maybe all of them at once?"

>>713904294
>removing vagueness is le bad because crazy fanboys can't make AUs otherwise
>unless it validates my headcanon, which is pretty much canon already because it's blatantly obvious to everybody who is not a retard
i hope the irony is not lost on you

>>713904725
>she somehow got from her house to the church faster than Kris and Susie did.
I think it's possible she has a direct path from her house to the shelter. The Holidays' basement plays the same sound that plays outside the shelter.

>>713904965
People will just ignore Toby's countless inspirations for his games with cope. OFF is also another example that inspired him.

>>713904250
Asgore got a lot of focus in Undertale, too. This is cope because he already debunks the "Toby hates Undertale characters" schizoposting. Plus, remember name order importance.

The SOUL is Kris
"Kris" moving without your control is Chara possessing her.

>>713904653
its the same reason why undyne the undying exists
the human and monster souls rest their hopes upon frisks shoulders, empowering them and their determination and allowing them to repeatedly come back from death. through determination, the dream became reality
meanwhile in genocide you cant even
>* But it refused.
against sans even though frisks determination is what keeps them coming back

>SUSIE AND KRIS ARE REAAAAL PEOPLE
???

Isn’t there some kind of variable in the notepad file corresponding to Frisk that disappears after the world gets BTFO in genocide?

>>713904965
Flowey only talks to chara

>>713904801
* JUSTICE is served
* You zip up your pants

>>713905149
>her

him

>>713901889
need her

>>713905143
there's a very good chance the knight is one of these characters

>>713905307
>him

they

>>713905217
Kris = toby
Susie = his bully when he was a kid

https://youtu.be/aZZDiqM60v0?list=RDaZZDiqM60v0

Pick the song for (Your) theme when you'll have to face the consequences of the Weird Route.

>>713904801
I'm glad DRY anon is rewriting his earlier stuff and especially taking out or redoing the weird route because it was kinda silly

>>713902730
>Check out of curiosity
>virtually uninterrupted group gooning session to Tasque Manager
I mean I get it, but Christ

>>713904965
Kris beating the absolute FUARK of the soul feels like Toby just putting his foot down and saying that the player is a diegetic element to the games kek

>>713904202
>Genocide's reset behaves exactly like a true reset.
Incidentally, I assume this is why Carol wants the Roaring to happen. A reset means a second chance to prevent whatever happened to Dess.

>>713904965
>You thinking sonic.exe is responsible for the buttons you pushed is just you being a dumbass
What's dumb is people being unable to separate fiction from reality, and thus insisting on obvious things as the player being responsible for playing the videogame. I can't believe people FORCED Mario to jump in those Goombas.

>>713905217
Darkners are literal toys, but lightners are real people and objectifying them as merch is sick and degenerate.

>>713901927
the moment (you) get an agreeable vessel, there really has to be another superboss that you can no-hit (with narrative payoff that is)
i just hope for an inversion of sans undertale, where your foe is frustrated by constant MISSes

>>713905383
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgMfVnEm4a4

I am FREEDOM incarnate. I have already won you clowns, go ahead, you can't defeat me in a way that matters.

>>713905030
>Fan content is le bad.
>But retarded autistic theories that I purposely make to say the game is badly written is.
/v/ is filled with miserable fucks.

>>713905472
>Darkners are literal toys
Dude does a fleshlight turn into a darkner too

>>713905236
When You and the fallen blow up the universe, it'll delete the SAVES 0-9. I forgot which one Frisk uses.

>>713904941
>There's no evidence Frisk actually forgets
The lack of evidence doesn't equate evidence to the contrary.
There are explicit moments when loading your save after doing certain actions where characters pointing out Frisk reacting strangely
>Toriel saying Frisk looks like they've seen a ghost if you kill her and reload your save
>Mettaton saying Frisk looks bored during the Oh My Love section
>Sans saying it looks like Frisk has heard this speech before
If you do a True Reset, Frisk's reactions completely revert to that of a first time playthrough. If Frisk did remember Genocide, Toriel at the very least would have the same reaction as when you killed her and reloaded your save.
>The same evidence can be applied to Chara who undoubtedly remembers.
And we can only find evidence of Chara remembering if you do Genocide again, when Chara has taken control of the SOUL and reset the world themself after you reopen the game stubbornly sit in the void for 10 minutes with nobody to control. I'm sorry anon, but you're arguing against the very thing the game presents, and using what it doesn't do as evidence of it doing something.

>>713905616
Because the world is destroyed, not because Frisk is dead. File 0 (Chara's) is destroyed but she is obviously alive.

>>713905383
the consequence is me winning
there's no need for a song, the sweet sound of number going up will be enough

>>713902730
dunno but this pic is sick

>>713905445
>>713905467
kek

>>713905692
LOLI QUEEN ToT

>>713899824
Alphys was an evil unlikable retard in undertale already

>>713905383
My Way - Frank Sinatra
>I've lived, a life that's full
>I've traveled each and every highway
>But more, much more than this
>I did it myyyyyyyyy way

>>713905143
>Asgore got a lot of focus in Undertale, too
You're confusing plot relevance with focus.
He didn't get nearly as much as everyone else. Most of what you know about Asgore/Gerson from Undertale is told through other people, you don't go through a whole entire stage of interacting/befriending him like Toriel/Bonebros/Undyne/Alphys or even Mettaton.

>>713896761
It's genuinely autistic for you to think that

>>713905731
this but unironically

>>713896774
If there's one place for a Lightner to sell a bunch of shit it's the festival so I'll bet my life savings it's chapter 5

What the actual fuck is going on in this thread? The threads were fine before but this one reads like some /vg/ garbage.

>>713905790
Based

>>713905660
>There are explicit moments when loading your save after doing certain actions where characters pointing out Frisk reacting strangely
>>Toriel saying Frisk looks like they've seen a ghost if you kill her and reload your save
>>Mettaton saying Frisk looks bored during the Oh My Love section
>>Sans saying it looks like Frisk has heard this speech before
>If you do a True Reset, Frisk's reactions completely revert to that of a first time playthrough. If Frisk did remember Genocide, Toriel at the very least would have the same reaction as when you killed her and reloaded your save.
I literally adressed this in my first post replying to you, because I knew you would use these exact arguments. Chara doesn't skip Monster Kid's speech despite being the one responsible for it ("In My Way"). Yet, you wouldn't say Chara forgot about Undying because of this.
>And we can only find evidence of Chara remembering if you do Genocide again, when Chara has taken control of the SOUL and reset the world themself after you reopen the game stubbornly sit in the void for 10 minutes with nobody to control. I'm sorry anon, but you're arguing against the very thing the game presents, and using what it doesn't do as evidence of it doing something.
And there's evidence that Frisk remembers because that's who the "peverse mentality" that Chara mentions because of it. I am doubly sorry that your headcanon that you keep inserting into the game simply isn't real.

>>713905876
we jack off half as much

I love this stupid thing

>>713905876
because /vg/ regulars are here. Why do you think there's an avatarfag arguing about Undertale in a Deltarune thread?

>>713905510
>it's Susie

>>713905876
You post this every thread

>>713905143
>name order importance.
gerson is already more important than
>alphys
>undyne (iceboxed until the end of the game)
>berdly (the only other lightner to have a role in a dark world like susie/noelle/kris, but still somehow does less for the story than gerson) (gets 10 lines in chapter 4 because he's written in a way for the story to continue without him, due to snowgrave)
>catty
>catti
>bratty
>sans
>papyrus
gerson is already more important than, but wont be for long
>asgore
>rudy

>>713905795
You have an entire boss fight against him.

>>713905674
Oh yeah, File 0 is the one that Frisk actually uses. In any case, the fallen is obviously going to be around because he's latched onto You like a parasite.

>>713905983
I don't

>>713905876
the general is leaking if you couldn't tell from the avatartranny nigger

>>713905548
>the irony is lost on him
at least pick a lane, nigger, if you leave things up to interpretation you will inevitably see interpretations you dislike
>trust me bro the game is perfect you just don't get it chara is the key to everything
yes-yes same as homestuck, umineko, ddlc, yiik

>this thread isn't all mouthbreathing dipshits as usual, what's going on here?

>>713905692
what is this?

>>713898810
There is a part of me that finds it cringey, because people fight stuff in games instead of fighting stuff in real life. Violence is so common to games, it's obvious we all have a desire to let out stress and feelings of incompetency through our most basic and direct tool: our fists. You can run away from it all you like, but the fact we do it so much in games shows that we understand there's a moral dilemma in trying to replicate it in real life. We don't actually want to go around killing everything, so we put those desires aside, that's part of being a civilized human being. In return, we reward ourselves a little and find other mediums to channel that energy into instead. There's really nothing wrong with that. But then a game developer comes running up to you like, "OH MY GOD, ARE YOU ACTUALLY GOING TO KILL THOSE PIXELS OF FAKE PEOPLE THAT WERE DESIGNED TO BE KILLED?" It comes across as pretentious Jewish shit.

But on the other hand, this is an RPG. VRPGs can get so abstract it's hard to call them RPGs at all. In a real RPG (a TTRPG), you can't just go around killing everything, because the characters don't need to be programmed for every little event, the GM is right there to provide real-time reactions. And in reality, no one would just brush off a band of marauding psychopaths slaughtering people, or even animals if they do it enough. So in that way, Undertale is just being an RPG. A real RPG, which most VRPGs fail to be. Obviously the monsters aren't going to be happy that you killed their kind and there's going to be consequences. If you cared about the characters enough that you'd want to see this big happy ending for them, you wouldn't have killed any, right?

>>713905876
AGP anon that self-inserts and avatarfags as fem Chara is extremely mad at the notion that him and Chara are not the same person.

>>713905598
>Kris and Susie find Asgore's gun

>>713906085
You also have an entire boss fight against Muffet. I think she might actually have more dialog.

>>713902413
Definitely. Undertale is like 8 hours if you go out of your way to do everything, and way shorter if you completely focus on True Pacifist

>>713906019
Undertale started being argued with this post:>>713897678
Not your avatarfag boogeyman.

>>713895875 (OP)

>>713906169
>says the pedophile who literally begged people from the /v/ threads to join his bootleg Discord in previous threads

I think Dess is alive and living in solitude inside the bunker. I think Asriel is the one who is actually dead. Maybe dess or noelle accidentally killed him and they're both too mindbroken to confront reality.

>>713905598
It's a giant armored worm that's constantly drooling green sticky goop. You need to defeat it by removing its armor and washing it.

>>713905692
Okay, that scarecrow does look fucking sick ngl

>>713905953
Your ability to shit out endless paragraphs attached to the most low quality art i have ever seen and still communicate absolutely nothing is genuinely impressive
Not even the gachatroon avatarfag who cries to the janny everytime he gets BTFO can hope to be as detrimental to these threads as you are

>>713906365
So... omori?

>>713903001
>https://deltarune.com/bluecircle/
>Cats made of balls
>the prophecy tail is made of balls
>???
Noelle is going to crash the game if we let her fuck around
also we're probably going to see Friend for real at the end of the game, and it'll wrap up the weird route
but who fucking knows, toby is not letting us have anything to go on

>chara filters secondaries and autists to this day

>>713906205
Speaking of killing monsters.

>>713906168
Undertale isn't perfect, but a lot of the complaints here are because people force an interpretation that doesn't fit with the game and then complain about it. Since the post asked what I wanted, I was slightly self-indulgent. Sue me.

>>713901961
Retard.

would this work?

>>713906365
Actually, the only person who is dead is [#variable:"NAME OF THE CREATOR "].

THAT will be the twist.

>>713906149
I can tell, hence my post.
>>713906208
I don't see why the rules say that avatartranny shit is not allowed when I haven't seen a single instance of anybody ever doing something against it.
>>713906019
Well, I'm fucking out of here, this is disgraceful. 'Twas good till it lasted.

>>713906085
>You have an entire boss fight against him
mad dummy/mew mew unironically has more dialogue spoken to frisk than asgore does

>>713906208
>Wanting to be a dead, psycho girl.
Yuck. Don't project your fetish inside me.

>>713906446
Queen actively worries about Noelle trying to clip through walls.

So many people mistook Genocide as a B route that Toby made the right call and just made the Weird Route an actual B route

>>713901961
>avatarfag cannot comprehend a children's game
my opinion of you lowers every thread

>>713906602
You'll find out in the post roaring apocalypse when you walk past the vessel standing by a grave.

>>713906603
idk who you are anon but i will miss your posts

>>713906437
There's only two paragraphs in that post, the rest is quotes. Sorry for your ADHD.

>>713906603
AH YES. JARU'S STRONGEST BALL WASHER

>>713902459

>>713906335
link?

>>713906670
That post really triggered /v/.

>>713905876
avatartrannies actively lower the quality of the thread, and also gets thread deleted due to """ritualposting""" which is actual /vg/ shit

>>713906802
because you’re retarded
that usually ends up annoying people

>>713906603
See you tomorrow.

>>713906802
Can you blame /v/? Nothing is worse than the troonfest known as /vg/, nobody wants them to leak out.

>>713906792
Don't worry, Kris. I play Friday Night Funkin

>>713906596
No because a flashlight would become a darkner. And it would probably only bring back enough light to make you not be able to see anything.

>713906802

>>713906792
Why do these people insist on being nice to Kris when you have zero reasons to do so?

>>713906851
Being called retarded by /v/ is a compliment.

>>713906596
no

>>713906819
>"""ritualposting"""
same shit as avatartrannies. this behavior is a blight on the culture of this site.

>>713905876
most discussion post moved to /vrpg/, /v/ threads are just for shitposting

>>713905383
>YOU FRONTIN' BRUH? TRYNNA STEP UP? TRYING TO TAKE MY CROWN? NAHHHH
https://andrewallanson.bandcamp.com/track/how-to-vex-your-enemies-ft-fraildog

>>713904801
>Yellow eyed Kanako
Is this from a Kanaklover set?

>>713906603
what a crybaby
>i'll stop having fun because bad people are here

>>713906951
>>713907034
artist name? I like these kris sketches

>>713905383
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fYfdlKIon4

This song because i'm going to fuck Noelle, THEN Kris.

>>713906365
Kris laced Dess's weed so she got too high, freaked out that the boogaloo was happening, and went into the bunker to survive. Kris brings her supplies and has convinced her the Dark Worlds are her repelling raids by feds. It's all an elaborate prank

>>713905953
>Chara doesn't skip Monster Kid's speech
Anon, this is retarded. Chara never skips dialogue themself, so this means a separate character must act the same way?
>And there's evidence that Frisk remembers because that's who the "peverse mentality" that Chara mentions because of it.
And where is this explicitly stated to be talking to Frisk? Where is Frisk when Chara says this? Why does Chara attack the game window specifically? The entirety of genocide has been showing Frisk not acting themself, dialogue has shown Chara's voice bleeding into what would be Frisk's narration, explicitly showing they're taking over Frisk. At the end of a post-Genocide True Pacifist run, it also explicitly shows Chara was controlling Frisk all along.

Who then, when there is nobody left, and the game's been killed, and you wait in the void, is Chara referring to? So far the evidence shows that Chara just has more patience than Frisk.

Also, when Chara explicitly says their Determination wasn't theirs, but "YOURS" why would the save files show the name the player input and not Frisk's? When Flowey gains more Determination, his name is tied to his save file despite the SOULs not being his, so why would this not happen to explicitly named Frisk even after True Pacifist reveals this to be their name?

You've failed to actually refute the facts of every point brought to you so far, only saying "but that's actually proof I'm right!!!" without ever explaining why.

>>713896871
>it's funny because he's FAT!
fuck you, Toby

>>713904516
Despite their large size, they have a clean, floral scent that matches the rest of his body, with only the barest hint of musk suggesting the true nature. Ralsei keeps himself clean.

>>713907197
https://x.com/Vivionlyart/status/1938950758726303902

I will be honest and say these threads aren't better than /vg/s and this elitist culture you guys have is like two pigs in a mud pit, but one insists it's cleaner than the other.

>>713906958
>these people
as opposed to regular people who are genuinely upset at a fictional character?

>>713905983
>He saved the thumbnail

guys…
it’s almost gone…

>>713907281
post your belly

>>713907335
Saying this already proves that you're a /vg/ migrant. I do not give a FUCK about your opinion, and you should kill yourself as soon as possible.

AIIIEEEEE THE VIDEO GAME CHILD HIT (ME) WITH A HOCKEY STICK GENOCIDE ROUTE NOOOOOW

This perfume is PISSING me off

>>713906958
because I like him? what’s confusing about that

>>713906958

>>713907609
it's not

>>713907609
That nigger is not to talk when he doesn't do shit but still threatens you when you're a good person

>>713905379
>Toby got bullied by a girl
>This makes Toby horny and has a crush on his bully
haha, what a nerd

>>713906958
I'm only nice to kris now because that's what Ramb wants.

>>713907335
Fuck off janny

>>713907553
>>713907639
Ramb, you have... something... on your hair.

This took longer than I care to admit

>>713906792
We need more art of (You) being hypercompetent instead of artists boasting about being bad at video games.

Honestly at least it’s not 2023-2024 /utg/, that was genuinely misery

>>713907280
>Anon, this is retarded. Chara never skips dialogue themself, so this means a separate character must act the same way?
They do when you die to Undying. They will tell him to turn around. They skip Papyrus dialogue. That undoubtedly happens.
>so why would this not happen to explicitly named Frisk even after True Pacifist reveals this to be their name?
Because the file is Chara's, and it uses Frisk's determination. Unless you're implying we share Chara's name.

Anyways, Chara is talking to Frisk because the SOUL that is sold is Frisk. You concede to this when you admit this:
>At the end of a post-Genocide True Pacifist run, it also explicitly shows Chara was controlling Frisk all along.
Because that only happens after the SOUL is sold.

Chara refers to it as "YOUR" SOUL, and thus Chara saying "you" refers to Kris. Undeniable proof Chara is talking to Frisk. Meanwhile your evidence is Frisk "supposedly" forgetting stuff, which doesn't actually happen.

>>713907538
>I like him
>him
do you really?

>>713907757
COMING

>>713906958
Because if I'm nice to Kris maybe he'll stop being such a baby when I make him do things he's scared to do but must for his own good.

>>713907489
As if this isn't /vg/ quality, too.
>>713907317

>>713906792
source?

>>713907404
>look up extensions
>all nuked, even the ones that were different build ups and pitches to match the in-game versions
>look up elu tran's channel
>nuked
what the fuck
https://www.youtube.com/@EluTran

>>713907757
kek

>>713907335
>go on /vg/
>ritualpost
>ritualpost
>screencap from a random twitter tranny drawing black gay sans and people defending it
>coomslop
>ritual post
>avatarfag
>one (1) post of an anon posting genuinely cool designs
>coom ritual post
>complaining about coomslop
You better be joking.

>>713907650
>t. big G when he foresees everybody who will ever go to hell or suffer due to uncaring tides of causality (cause free will or something)

Why is the word PISSING yellow when Starwalker says it?

>>713907814
Kris being a girl doesn't make sense and I don't recall it ever being said they were some postmodern gender freak who pretends there's more than two genders.

>>713907981
>screencap from a random twitter tranny drawing black gay sans and people defending it
How the fuck do you even make Sans black, he doesn't have any skin

>>713907814
yes i do, and some annoying faggots on twitter/reddit can’t change that with their gay posts about “erm you don’t like deltarune if you don’t respect my mental illness :(“

>>713907960
Materia Collective are massive fucking kikes and the people who run it should be fed through a woodchipper.

making minikrises with kris...

>>713907394
Unless you haven't been paying attention the story, Kris is the most unlikable character in the game due to sheer antagonism on his part which includes
>Anything related to You
>Lying to his friends and wasting Susie's time with the shelter bunker code.
>Working with the knight
>Throwing the fight with the knight
>If you somehow got past all of the blades at the start of chapter 4 and reach the knight, Kris will stand there like a tard while Susie's yelling at him to get the knight and get sent to the lower levels.
>Getting Undyne kidnapped and set up for a "sacrifice"

>>713908006
Why did Gaster do that?

I’m not going back to /utg/ ever since a literal /dbs/ reject bunkered down in there

>>713908104
>Ayuda por favor I want cock

>>713907760

>>713908104
>>>/vg/529157778

>>713908163
Vesselcucks were really chomping at the bit when it was just chapter 1+2 kekaroo

>>713908223
Based.

>>713908215
That's pretty cool, actually.

>>713908276
jesus christ

>>713907790
You never actually refuted the Frisk forgetting during True Resets, you still ignore the fact Chara attacks the game window, something that shouldn't even matter in Frisk's perspective, and ignored the actual logic of the save file name bullshit, all in favor of arguing that The Player is not at all a factor in Undertale.
>They do when you die to Undying
After you said they don't I'm convinced you're trolling. Good work, you strung me along until near the end of the thread's life.

>>713903010
>Tenna has a wackier, cartoonish smile with 3-4 teeth
i hate secondary faggots >>713902331

>>713907404
Sebastian Wolff can't help himself and YouTube only encourages auto-flagging despite Toby himself allowing it and previously talking to Wolff about it

>>713908295
See, its not even about the vessel shit anymore. Its about how Kris really did turn out to be a snake and being apologetic for him is fucking pathetic.

>>713908438
You can just admit that you’re a furfag forcing yourself to put up with a game you don’t like because it has cutesy critters in it

>>713908213
So most anons here are /utg/ refugees?

>>713908276
>replies are "this design is a GOOD thing actually!"
yeah you /utg/ troons will never get me to go there, kill yourselves

>>713908163
>unlikable
do you also feel animosity towards berdly? do you understand that a fictional character's worth goes beyond "being nice"?
did you actually get upset at tom&jerry-tier slapstick in noelle's house?

>>713907757
Very kino.

>>713898646
Death note

>>713908552
Lmao why was Mario turned into a nigger

>>713908163
Don't forget
>has control over Check
>uses it to tell you to kill Tenna and Snowgrave Berdly
>stops you from using it on the Knight

>>713908552
It just looks like some reject Futurama gag character.

>>713908557
>spoiler
yes he is, because he’s an autist obsessed with THE MISSION [random buzzword]

I have no enemies.
No one in DELTARUNE is my enemy.
I hope to be friends with everyone in the future.
I have no enemies at all.

>>713908345
>You never actually refuted the Frisk forgetting during True Resets,
I did. My point is that this doesn't actually happen. Chara does the same and they undoubtedly remember.
>you still ignore the fact Chara attacks the game window, something that shouldn't even matter in Frisk's perspective
This is retcon by consoles, which is why I didn't mention it.
>After you said they don't I'm convinced you're trolling. Good work, you strung me along until near the end of the thread's life
This only happens when you DIE to Undying. If you beat genocide and then immediately do another run, Chara won't skip MK even though they should. I think you misunderstood my point.

>>713908589
THE [Tragic businesmen] THAT [Died] AT THE [Now] OF THE [Story]

>>713903010
>This smile also happens to match... FRIEND
>doesn't actually match in the example provided
What did they mean by this?
I just noticed that this image tries to imply that Burgerpants is the knight so I am retarded for thinking it's serious

>>713908586
>why is mario a nigger
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/363813245/#363837806

>>713908528
So you're just an absolute fuck retard that has nothing of value to say because I'm pointing out the plot of the game? Nice talk I guess.

>>713908528
NTA but
>You don't like the human so you must be a furry
is the strangest fucking take I've seen in these threads.

>>713908835
My guy you dislike most of the cast besides Susie (of course) and think Chapter 1 is somehow the best chapter if you’re the exact same dude I’m thinking of, you’re mad that it isn’t just some formulaic muh comfy “Undertale 2” and are fuming at the plotline of a game that you only halfway have information of

>>713906958
being nice is my default behavior and not something i make people earn

>>713908557
His most unlikable trait is that he's a snake towards his friends and part of some dark goal. But no, retards ignore this and just wants him to fuck Susie or Noelle. Looking forward to Susie going berserk whenever she learns the truth.

>>713908589
For the Snowgrave Berdly shit, I'd say it's just our will overriding theirs in that particular moment. They're in more control during the fight with the Knight, so they're able to fuck with the Checks.

>>713908926
at this point i feel like susie is the most overrated character who slides by just by hitting multiple entry-level fetish areas

>>713908781
>What did they mean by this?
It means it's shockingly close, especially since FRIEND is literally in TV World with you.
>I just noticed that this image tries to imply that Burgerpants is the knight so I am retarded for thinking it's serious
Reading comprehension, do you have it? It's comparing Burgerpants and Spamton's reactions to being threatened by the player character.

>>713909027
so why didn’t kris open a jillion dark fountains and destroy the world yet

>>713908926
>Projection
I don't ever remember hating anyone in chapter 1 besides King for threatening to toss his son off a cliff only for chapter 2 to reveal it was all a bouncy bluff. I was even willing to give the edgy brat a chance.

>>713909050
>For the Snowgrave Berdly shit, I'd say it's just our will overriding theirs in that particular moment.
Except ERAM calls Kris out in chapter 3 for enjoying what you did to Noelle.

>Do you honestly think it'll get you what you want...?
>... and the SHADOW MANTLE that I'm holding!
>... no, part of you is just... enjoying this, isn't it?
>The same part of you that enjoyed yesterday.
>Knowing you could say it wasn't really you.
>Oh, don't make that sour face.
>I can see in the dark, you know!

>>713908823
So that's why

>>713909089
>Reading comprehension, do you have it?
Yes, which is why I noticed that Burgerpants is placed under "Top Suspects"

Susie? Made for Kris.

>>713909027
>some dark goal
You have literally no idea what Kris and the group chat's goal actually is.

>>713909243
>part of you
>so Kris is actually 200% pure darkness
Huh

>>713909167
He has a specific goal, likely related to healing or resurrecting Dess

>>713909050
So basically you have to headcanon that Kris suddenly have a weaker will in this instance instead of just playing his part in snowgrave?

>>713909335
It's a literal dark goal. They talk about dark fountains.

>>713904861
Considering we don't see any half humans, probably the latter.

The bizarrely emotional - straight up hysterical, even - schizoposting about Kris feels like a textbook example of that phenomenon of weirdos treating fictional characters like real people and real people like they’re fictional