Really thrown off by this guy
I'm afraid we just reached Total Krusie Victory. Pedosky exclusive btw.
So the new tactic is spamming threads yourself in order to get them deleted.
>>713993725 (OP)he saw everything kris asriel and dess did
>>713995441Elaborate? What role does this guy really play and does he ever become relevant later. Is there any reason to believe Ralsei isn't different from them in terms of what they are, an NPC that knows too much... How badly am I reading into this
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>>713994667I just want to discuss a seemingly nothing burger character and see if there's anything more to them
>>713995769It's honestly impossible to tell until we know more about the nature of dark worlds and Kris's backstory. Ramb is one of those object that Kris spent a lot of time around when younger, and therefore even if the character is unimportant, he knows Kris's secrets and personality. Like Tenna, what he really wants is for Kris to be happy.
>>713996593...I see. I'm still trying to figure out why people are trying to make a connection between Ramb and the Shadow Mantle boss. Also, are they really supposed to be british or something. Does this go any deeper.
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>>713993863WHAT DID HE WIN?!?!!111
>>713993725 (OP)Was supposed to be the secret boss but got scrapped off last second.
Luv that power strip Ramb
>>713993725 (OP)Just really understands what Kris wants. He just wants to have fun.
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He remembers the good old days, when Kris used to enter Dark Worlds and play them like Mantle.
>>713997256Kris is a prankster with a sick sense of humor but honestly I think he just wants a normal life.
Kris is really an enigma on itself, I theorize Kris and Ralsei already know each other and they both agreed to do everything weโve done so far because Kris needed to give up his SOUL to the player in order to find Dess.
Iโve already seen this phrase thrown around but Iโm locked in on this issue: DELTARUNE is not about the Legend of DELTA RUNE, but actually about finding Dess
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Question is why does Kris seemingly correlate fun to violence?
>>713993863Toby "Dyke Destroyer" Fox
Toby "The Carpet Muncher Killer" Fox
Toby "Lesbo Lacerator" Fox
Toby "Slay the Gay" Fox
Toby "Just A Phase" Fox
>>713997790Kris is either a sociopath or lacks a SOUL. I think he can feel feelings now (Hugging Ralsei out of his own will, resisting the mean option when Ralsei asks if his feelings matter).
So the SOUL I think Gaster gave him is not really autonomous but it allows him to have feelings.
>>713997790he's a waku waku fag
>>713997520Cool... God, I want more of this fucker in the future. He kind of became stone at the last second, though.
>>713993863We fucking won bros
he is petrifying cause he isn't part of this nigger world
that's my game theory
>>713993863I feel like I have hope crossed on my heart now
The stone shit so retarded
>Lancer in Cyber World
Turns into Stone
>Lancer in Castle Town
Doesnโt turn into stone
>Lancer in TV world
Doesnโt turn into stone
>Ramb in TV World
DOES turn into stone despite that being his world
What the fuck was Toby thinking?
>>713998360What is the nigger world, and is black ralsei the prince of it
>>713998498>despite being his worldwasn't he supposed to be part of cyber city due to being a plug Kris or Asriel stole from the computer lab
>>713998498just fit in lol
>>713998498Doesn't it show how the TV world itself is getting less interesting
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>>713998498Toby is a hack and can't come up with anything new.
>>713998498All darkners can survive in Castle Town because the fountain there is pure darkness or something. Lancer does turn to stone in TV world, but you have to backtrack to see it.
>>713998498Itโs nothing new that Ralsei lies by omission or simply leaves things out of explanations to not further โcomplicateโ things. The stone thing is definitely something deeper than we were told
>>713993863Toby self inserting as Kris confirmed? Very likely he WILL do Krusie and Kriselle routes as both Noelle and Susie are based on his fantasies (childhood sweetheart and tomboy bully with golden heart)
>>713997520>* Kris... if not for fun, why'd you do it?What do you think Kris said to this?
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>>713997520Adding to this. It's not a coincidence that the chapter that starts by talking about darkners not being real is the same one to have a video game in the dark world.
There's an implication that dark worlds themselves can be thought of a video game. The darkners aren't real so it doesn't matter if you go through and kill them. No different to how you might think playing Mantle is justified in a pacifist run as well.
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Who got btfo'd harder?
Cattifags, or Undynefags?
>>713998836>tfw the dog himself is part of the Krusie AgendaWill Susellefags ever recover?
>>713998897Torielfags were basically slain overnight.
>>713998498Ramb was stolen from the library, so he's not native. It's like how one of the remote guys turns to stone because he was from Catti's house
>>713998816>tfw youโre locked out of pacifist because you wanted the ShadowMantle
Krisellesisters it's not looking good...
>>713993725 (OP)He's a power strip that wound up in the Dreemurr house despite technically belonging to the library.
He seems to genuinely like Kris.
He's implied to be responsible for supplying power to the TV world; all the screens turn off when he turns to stone or disappears.
It's not clear what Kris did to rub off so well on Ramb, or what Ramb thinks he's helping Kris accomplish by giving access to the real game, but he seems to know something truly important is in there.
Really it seems like he's overall just fairly smart and has been around awhile, like Seam.
>>713993863>>713993863meanwhile the bird app exclusive
https://x.com/tobyfox/status/1939307524442017864
>Now that we've gotten to Chapter 4, I can finally post a less edited version of this concept art which features such long-awaited lines as "He goes to another school" and "bottled water?"
>>713998897Cattifags, but she's still got some relevance with that premonition about keeping Susie away from Noelle. I guess we'll see where that goes.
>>713998498>Doesnโt turn into stonehe does, though
>>713993725 (OP)Don't cry for him he's already dead
>>713997915He killed lesbians in Homestuck and Alphys was suppose to be a nerdy GUY on the first draft.
Male Alphys was the original STARWALKER of straight ships
>>713999126Within one scene, Toriel's reputation as a soft caring mommy was immediately changed to that of a drunken whore. Granted, the signs were there, but now we literally know Sans fucked her.
>>713993863total twittertroon dyke lover death
>>713998897Catti has effectively been written out of the story while Undyne still has some part left to play
>>713998498Petrification is clearly more complex than "you turn to stone if you don't belong" from the first moment it's introduced. You can see variance in when darkners turn to stone as early as chapter 2. Retard.
What will Toby Fox get more death threats from?
>Kruselle not being canon
Or
>The ending being some time loop bullshit
>>713999031>>713999094You guys got it all wrong, NPCs explicitly say that Ramb has been around for a good while, ever since he was a kid and he became like this due to how he kept being used as a toy despite not being one to the point he grew a complex over it, which annoyed all the actual toys
>>713998498You weren't paying attention anon.
Darkners are explicitly said to not turn to stone in Castle Town. It's the whole reason why it's justified that Ralsei's fountain be the one left unsealed.
>Lancer in TV world>Doesnโt turn into stoneHe does
>Ramb in TV World>DOES turn into stone despite that being his worldIt's explained that Ramb was taken from the computer room in the library. Hence why he isn't considered to belong in the tv dark world. What determines what belongs where is a weird topic, but that was always going to be the case.
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>>713998498>The stone shit so retarded>>Lancer in Cyber World>Turns into StoneHe doesn't belong.
Rouxls' head stays normal because he became an internet pirate with the hat and all.
>>Lancer in Castle Town>Doesnโt turn into stoneRalsei already said the main fountain's darkness means any darkner can belong.
>>Lancer in TV world>Doesnโt turn into stoneHe turns to stone. Go back to the room with 3 lancer controllers at the end.
>>Ramb in TV World>DOES turn into stone despite that being his worldAgain, if you don't "belong", you'll turn to stone. The pippin at the counter states he never belonged.
>>713998897Undyne having any relevance whatsoever outside of a cameo is a pretty big win for her when she already had undertale.
That being said catti could still get a chapter. Trust the plan.
>>713993863So what was the point of suselle if it was never meant to be a thing?
>>713999086The chapters have been consistent that an Undertale-style "pacifist" run is not a thing. As long as you recruit all the fodder enemies you can kick the shit out of all the bosses and still get the "good" endings. And the Knight and Titan can only be beaten with violence, while Gerson punishes you if you try to just defend every turn. The only exception is Berdly (a lightner) and violence is still the best way to take down Queen's shield.
>>713999384the only thing that doesn't convince me that she'll be relevant is that sure, she has a custom talk sprite, but no talking sound.
>>713999289Doubling down and establishing Sans as a bad guy. Soriel fans will actually track him down and blow up his house.
>>713993725 (OP)I want to fork him
>4 chapters in and people are still stuck on grasping petrification
>they are failing
>>713999382Also
>Susie's Dark WorldOriginal Starwalker turns to stone (because the Dark World is a copy, not original)
I'm really hoping this plot isn't shaping up to be a generic "escapism...BAD???" hack plot
>>713998572How long does it need to take for characters to switch places "they belong to"? Like if someone from library give Kris a book forever, is it now part of Kris houshold or Cyber world? Shoudnt all the books in library be part of different worlds since they weren't originally written in the library??
>>713999473>Soriel fans will actually track him down and blow up his house.soriel fans won the hardest though, toby made it a controversial plot point even
>>713999696Get the fuck out, kike
>>713993863>Kris takes Susie.>(You) take Noelle.We can't stop WINNING.
>>713999459id say rouxls proves that she can still be relevant despite having no soundbites. like maybe not a whole chapter to herself, but relevant still
>>713999608At most, it'll be "TOO MUCH escapism bad." From the first chapter we're shown that dark worlds can have a positive impact. Susie made her first friends.
>>713998897She was created for Deltarune story and to forshadow Suselle burning in order to prepare Kriselle and Krusie routes. I think Catti is based
>>713999608Tony isn't Japanese.
>>713999608>too much escapism badaPossible. That's probably what the Roaring is, when your delusions are so strong you don't know what's real anymore.
>escapism badUnlikely. Otherwise that would invalidate most of Susie's arc, who soften and found friends thanks to the Dark Worlds.
>>713999553We are never beating the allegations are we?
>>713999608It really seems like it's going for the opposite of that.
>>713998816Interesting little trope... I don't know how it will go this time around
>>713999793>yourPeople are so in cloud nine that they don't realize it means (You), not Kris.
>>713999031>It's like how one of the remote guys turns to stone because he was from Catti's housewait are you kidding me!? i thought everyone else except the pippins was turning to stone because Tenna felt like he didnt belong anywhere
>>713999608He just wants to say USE ESCAPISM 4 GOOD
>>713999091Kris confirmed as self insertion pretty much open paths for Kriselle and Krusie. Kris flirting options and gifting options in chapter 2 with Noelle and chapter 4 with Susie now make more sense
>>713993863>replies full of fanart of Susie resting her chin on Kris' headHe really did win...
>>713997790Fun is play. Fun is freedom and control. Fun is breaking the rules.
These naturally extend to violence when taken too far.
On weird route, Kris devours the apple from its sweet flesh down to its bitter core.
>>713999787it's meant to be
>>713999608Toby has been mulling over this exact shit for more than ten years.
More than ten years of making his fantasy live.
And you think he'll end it up with le escapism bad after all the years he poured into it?
If Lancer had left Kris's pantshole and Queen arbitrarily decided he was her son sooner, would he have been able to survive in the Cyber World?
>>713998816i really like how you can still beat up some people on this game and not be penalized by it
beated jester, Tenna and berdely and still on pacifist route
>>713999289>Suselle getting broken for Krusie or Kriselle>Soriel dying by Asgore fixing up his marriageWhen that happen, all the lefty tumblr loonies will go insane that Kris has normal nuclear family and that he divided le hekkin lesbians
>>714000134what the fuck is going with kris, are those supposed to be boobs?
Op here, absolutely siding with the Krusie debate. Love those two so much, they are absolutely precious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQHNcl4zm8o
so are we going to do that group project or nah
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>>713997520>the kill count in your UI after Sword Route isn't from the game enemies, but Kris remembering something he did long agoToby...
>suselleniggers already squirming and writhing on forcing krusielle to make their ship stay afloat
Fucking pathetic.
>>713993863>trans lesbians won too!!!I've never seen cope this hard lol
>>713999696Kusielle is leftist reddit degeneracy. Either give me Krusie OR Kriselle but not this cringe in between. I want a wholesome wedding in Alvin's church with both Toriel and Asgore make up and attending Kris wedding with Asriel and his classmates
>>714000503Jesus Christ
At least it does prove that suselle is indeed self-insert trannies
>>714000503>She literally cannot position her chin there because of the antlersHAHAHAHA
SUSELLEFAGS ARE DONE
>>714000370Based? On my aunt.
>Susie Chapter 1 - I don't need your stupid prophecy, Toothpaste Boy.
>Susie Chapter 4 - We don't need that stupid prophecy, Ralsei.
Susie is back to her original behavior guys!
>>714000134fem-Kris will never stop being cringe. Must have been troons self inserting
>>714000503suselle sisters...
>>714000319Is that the ORIGINAL starwalker?
>>714000645Do you have the screencap
I want to see it for old times' sake
Ok enough shipping. Talk about something interesting now.
>>713993863https://arch-img.b4k.dev/v/1749728964567.jpg
>>714000581>>714000616I mean it literally says "rests her chin on YOUR head" Why the fuck would it be referring to Noelle lol
>>714000825If gaster is sans dad, whos sans mom?
>>714000503Desperate.
Your turn.
>>714000825What will happen to Onion the next time we see him?
>>714000825I want to see Deltarune further explore the concept of creating Dark Worlds in pre-arranged or unusual spaces. What happens if one is made in a room of mirrors?
>>714000503LMAO not only it would gauge her eyes but also Susie does't care about her shampoo
>>714000878Why would it be referring Kris?
It means (You). (You) aren't Kris.
>>714000825I'm still fascinated by the blood and the fact that some monsters (like Susie) have it.
Can't figure out the blood/dust rules.
>>714000937Then Susie will be surrounded by winners
>>714000895The amount of dark fountains has increased and soon we might not be able to contain the Roaring.
>>714000825If the forgotten man is papyrus, what exactly is papyrus like? How much of him is an act?
>>714000847Why did you catbox this?
>>714000995Because we assume control of Kris in the game
>>713999608It will be about escapism being fine in moderation, but ruinous in excess.
>>714001159Maintaining the Soul agenda should be our top priority
>>714000678As if you're not self inserting dumbass? Kris being "male" is just as likely as Kris being "female".
You can't whine about people making FemaleKris as its just as canon as MaleKris
>>714000926gonerified
>>714000937the whole world will be made of clones of you and/or will represent your psyche
>>714000572Toby confirming he's not a yuri nigger pretty much opened the possibility Kriselle and Krusie will become main options in chapter 5
>>713999713Yes but he did it in a way that makes their ship look bad. Right now they're managing with gallons of copium and claiming that the dance scene isn't that bad and that Toriel deserves to be happy and that Kris needs to grow up and hurf durf, but if Toby makes it blatantly clear that Sans and Toriel hooking up is an undeniably bad thing and turning the Soriel ship into one of vile delusion, they're going to be out for blood.
>>714000995The game uses "You" all the time. Don't play dumb.
>>714000503good god they're gonna kill him irl if a straight relationship happens
>YJKHRT
>>714000995Because while we're in control of Kris' body the narration tries to make it seem like he's our self-insert. There's a lot of "You drank the hot chocolate" and "You read the book" when Kris is the one doing the actions, because we're in control of him at the time. Kris manipulating the information we get from these lines of narration is a major plot point throughout the game.
So yes, if Susie sat her head on top of Kris', that's what the narration would say.
>>713999104>susie pretending to have a bf in the conceptSo she's pretty much confirmed straight?
>>713998895Why was this deleted?
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>papyrus meeting scheduled for chapter 2
>secret door blocked off by an NPC because Toby knows you'll check it
>...
>both plotlines dropped, first required appearance is actually lol hes fucking your mom and kris/susie hates him now (doomed character since toby loves susie so much)
Why did he change the story?
I've never seen this scene before.
I'm doing a replaytrhough of Deltarune (normal cus weird route is for losers) since my main save had Devil's Tail instead of Devilknife and Devilsknife is objectively better for Susie since it can make her better heal heal up to 185, plus I missed the egg in chapter so I decide to explore down after getting the stuff and I see tori talking with alphys.
I've never seen this before.
>>714001245Toby created Kris as self insertion for himself before anyone else and thus Kris is originally MALE rather than non binary, the same way original Stalwalker is not a bird.
>>714001397Minikris disappears when the controller is unplugged.
I guess Toby didn't like being called out as having a yuri fetish to release these two lmao
Okay, I concede dog, you don't have a yuri fetish
>>713999256Kris is not male. Whoever Susie ends up with her relationship is gonna be queer.
>>713999914Not happening,
My biggest fear is that Toby will rewrite the Weird Route after the rape flower and general romance undertone between SOUL and Noelle.
>>714001573This is baito.
>>714001526>straight man ashamed to admit he finds two women together attractiveDo leftists really
>>714001049I thinks it's just possible that monsters can bleed in Deltarune, but they still dust on death. Even though that would make Noelle's dialogue and the apartment kid seem strange, I don't see how you can explain Susie treating it like it's normal.
>>714001573This is bait but that doesn't mean you're wrong
>>714000581>>714000616>>714000703>>714000895Kriselle is self insert for trannies to since Kris is nonbinary, retard-kun.
>>714001303It literally will happen lol. People will deem Krusie or Kriselle as being part of the "evil route"
Minikris dies if Susie unplugs the controller. Yet more "puppet dies without its puppeteer" symbolism for Kris
>>714001587Nah it'll be fiiiiine
>>713993863Anon please...
Don't give me hope.
>>7140014571&2 toriel is so different now, all because of one scene.
>>714001457Saw it on my first playthrough. "Can't let mom catch you balancing a giant trash orb" line made me realise this was going to be great. That and the "crime" dialogue option.
>>714001268>an undeniably bad thing...for Kris and Asgore.
>>714001486>Toby created Kris as self insertion for himselfNice fanfiction.
>>713993863All according to Keikaku
>>714001587>general romance undertone between SOUL and Noelle.that's just you bro. she wants you gone and wants kris back
>>714001702Kind of irks me that she doesn't realise you were getting the party something really useful.
>>714001303And that's why he moved to Japan and has only been appearing in dog costume.
All he needs to do is get secret plastic surgery and a name change and he's golden.
>>714001486Why are MaleKrisfags so damn autistic. The character has no defined gender MaleKris is no more canno than FemaleKris and vice versa.You can prefer whatever you want but stop being autistic faggots about it.
Also the more obnoxious you get about it the more likely Toby will write something in a future chapter to personally wreck you.
>>714001838Is beating the Knight "useful" in this context?
What will the Shadow Crystals do for us?
>>714001268it's unironically a great subversion if that's what he's doing
>>714001587>My biggest fear is that Toby will rewrite the Weird Route after the rape flowerthis is 100% happening unfortunately, he wont rewrite it completely but definitely will tone it down and be more careful
the thing is, there was nothing worse than could happen than a rape scene, so were lucky it happened in this order
>>714001515>Game ending>Kris and Susie get married>Kris dies as soon as the connection between (You) and him is terminated
My ultimate goal?
See Kris become the superior protagonist and make FriskKEKS kneel.
>>714001303Autistic waifufags with nothing to lose are a more real threat than teenage girls who spend too much time on the internet.
>>713998897At least Undyne got a cool dark world look. The silver tiara is a nice touch
>>714001587>rape flowerProjecting
>romance undertone between SOUL and NoelleProjecting Noelle.
Also if you think anything in Weird Route is romantic then you should be on a IRL predator list.
>>714001587Anon... He had years of shipping and abuse allegory posting in the fandom for years and still implemented the "rape" and shipping moments between all characters
He'll probably double down not pull back.
>>713999696Fuck off, Poly is fucking gay and retarded. I will take goddam BerdlyxSusie (does that even have a name?) over poly-shit
>>714001303It's the real reason toby has Kris as they/them. despite being a blatant self-insrt.
They can't accuse Kris relationships of being straight because that would entail insisting that Kris is male, which they aren't supposed to insist.
Seriously though I think people are forgetting the twist regarding Kris's true nature is going to get in the way of his relationship with Susie
>>714001817I don't think noelle will want kris back after I tell her what he did to dess and that he tried to sacrifice his own mother
>>713998498Why doesn't Ralsei ever turn to stone?
>>714001303He cleverly made the male protagonist performatively non-straight so that they are not allowed to criticise it. Tobert Fox is playing chess 5,000 moves ahead
>>714002051>>714001573You will never unrape the doe.
>>713999156OP here. Audibly saying Nooo NOOOO to myself while reading this
I have never met people this autistic about shipping even on tumblr and Xitter. Why are you all a bunch of faggots
>>714001973>Anon thinks he's "lucky" because he found something that he could headcanon as rapeWhy are weirdfags so.. Weird? This is why you're dying alone anon.
Remember my post in 10 years.
>>714001939Brother
You're right. Your words are accurate to the facts.
But Kris is so obviously male inbetween every line that leaves the question ambiguous
>>713999031where'd the catti house thing come from?
>>714002051Of course the Weird Route has romantic undertones you moron. You didn't even play the game?
>>714002094You're going to lose your shit when you play the actual game
>>714002148There was no rape why? Simply because Toby desires it not to be. Toby is the god of Deltarune because he made it.
(You) are not in control the things you can do in Deltarune are because Toby allows it as it is his game. Not yours.
I don't like Susie because she's breaking fate or some stupid shit
I don't like Kris because he hates (Me) and is working with the knight
I don't like Ralsei because he loves hiding shit from (Me)
I like Noelle because i'm into mindbreak
>>714002126you mean what asgore did to dess?
and i don't think Kris wants to sacrifice Toriel, hence him telling Undyne about the dark worlds, bringing susie into the tv world, etc
>>714001976https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHdOXCoja-c
>>714002152>make a character that you're supposed to both literally and figuratively self-insert into>surround him with cute girls that like him, each filling some kind of niche fetishIt was inevitable.
>kris on asriel's pc again
KEKAROO
I love seeing Suselle trannies crying over their shitty ship not being canon kek
>>713999696Poly can't apply as neither Susie nor Noelle are fat and ugly.
>>714001952Even if beating the knight during chapter 3 is pointless, Shadow Mantle is their best defense against what, as far as they can tell, is their main adversary. Sure there might be some twist that throws shit out the window, but from what they know at that point in time. Yes, get the Shadow Mantle.
>>714002152This is what happens to every game that shipbaits, genuine discussion dies in a week and it's permanently replaced with ship wars until the next game/chapter comes out
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>>714001939You can't name one single fucking thing about Kris that is feminine, you retarded ape. He dresses like a man. He lives in the same room as his male brother. He has male hobbies and gets treated like a boy.
You getting offended at the OBVIOUS, CORRECT interpretation is laughable. Kill yourself.
>>714002234>Thinks abuse is romanceYou're a porn addicted virgin aren't you? How old are you? I'm guessing you're in your 30's your life is over anon. You will never find love.
>>714002176bro, what do you mean? Did xitter or tumblr claim bro, bro?
>>714002251Yes I know about the Roulx x the weatherfucks thing but I honestly dont care about either of those three and Roulx is very clearly the comedic relief. Hell that entire part was one big fucking joke
>>714000926Next time? There won't be a next time.
>>714002337The student has finally become the master.
Why do Suselle troons hate the weird route so much?
That will never be undone
How is police sacrifice next week essential to the plan
>>714001762>>714001939wow
troons mad their fem Kris and Suselle got wrecked ahahaa
>>714002383If the poly thing was made to be a joke then it wouldn't end with them hooking up with starwalker
I wonder if somewhere out there, thereโs a schizophrenic with delusions that they are in the same situation as Kris
>>714002420>they feel safe because daddy toby is on their side>when he isnt they freak the fuck out because they have to fend vs. the other shipfags by themselvessimple.
>>714002094>BerdlyxSusie (does that even have a name?)it's pronounced bussy
>>713999978>>714002171the pippins RIGHT NEXT to the stone Zapper says it explicitly
does nobody read?
>>714001813>anime nailsI hate weebs
>>714002165>thinks masculine females can't exist even when Susie is in the game>>714002353>You can't name one single fucking thing about Kris that is feminineThe fact that Kris themself acts feminine around Susie
The fact that Kris wears feminine clothing during the rock concert.
Also acting feminine =/= not biologically female.
Nothing about Susie is feminine yet she's female.
>>714002536i'm pretty sure thinking another entity is controlling you isn't that uncommon of a delusion
>>714002424Sacrifice made to a demon with a pointed tail
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>>713993725 (OP)he looks like gaster
>"Kris! Let's go tell Noelle about what happened on the Ferris Wheel! Don't spare a single detail of what happened there, including the practice kiss we did! Man, I'm so glad we have a friend like Noelle to talk about all our time together with!"
>>714002094based
Polygamy would be worse than lesbians although both would be cringe if they were featured in the Alvin's church
>>714002508>whining about Troons when playing Deltarune & UndertaleTroon game.Troon fanbase. Toby will listen to troons and will never listen to chuds.
Troons own you.
Also Noelle is trans btw.
>>714002354Holy troon projection
>>714002431How would this affect the Pippins?
>>714002576You know what, i take it, since we all know Berdly would end up beeing the one getting fucked in that relationship
>>714002687>Also Noelle is trans btw. Toby will 100% do this. Its perfect for subversive expectations. Make the most masculine character on the team Susie a cis female, make one of the most feminine characters in the game Noelle trans.
Honestly Noelle's personality has more in common with a trans girl than a cis girl anyway.
>>714002602I just don't buy it
Susie's design has much more androgyny than Kris'
>>714002354Bait, or beyond pathetic.
>>714002778>Honestly Noelle's personality has more in common with a trans girl than a cis girl anyway.i'm not necessarily disagreeing but I've seen this opinion a lot. What about Noelle's personality makes her seem more like a trans girl than a regular girl?
There's a reason Noelle invites (You) to the festival during the abusechad route but not in the normal route, she's just into that shit
Any requests? Last guy wanted Knight JoJo-posing
>>714002645I wonder how would Susie react if Kris told Noelle on Chapter 2 that they were straight up making out in the closet
Kill all shipfags. More tanna posting please
>>714002863will kill himself in chapter 5
>>7140021524chan has become worse than Twitter and Tumblr. Its over.
>>714002778>>714002687>Noelle's personality has more in common with a trans girl than a cis girl anyway.Everybody knows real girls don't like stuff like video games and creepypastas
>>714002863People who say this don't talk to women
>>714002602Susie is confirmed female wearing male clothes
Kris is undefined anime protag who acts and dresses as male, has no breasts or female hips as well as created by a male eroge player and thus is considered a male. Get it, troony?
>>714002778I'm ok with this but ONLY if she gets cucked as hard as possible. I want susie to look into the camera and say "Not only am I straight, but I would never date a tranny even if I wasn't" right before making out with kris in front of noelle.
>>714002318>make a character that you're supposed to both literally and figuratively self-insert intoYou don't play the game you fucking retard. The game hammers home the point that (You) are NOT Kris.
The character you made at the beginning is (You) but (You) are not Kris.
>>714002895asgore doing a exaggerated cartoon jaw drop
>>714002895do the knight striking this cecil pose
>>714002326give it a few years
>>714002895The Knight drooling like a dog at the sight of a tasty treat
OR
The Knight stuck inside a water cooler like a Mizzle
>>714002895Spamton in a ranch raising Pipis.
>>714002645Can't wait when Toby make cucked Noelle canon in chapter 5 (and Asgore roadkilling Dess)
>>714002693I'm married with a child on the way.
>>714002832>baitAnd looks like I'm completely right about you. Enjoy dying alone.
>>714003014(You) are literally being put inside of kris.
>there are people who never knew a "noelle" IRL
>they instantly think noelle is a troon because of it
I pity you zoomers.
I dont think people apreciate how shit of a mother Toriel is
>ignores the fucking bloodstain in her sons room
>ignores that his corner of the room screams either depression or prison cell
>ignores the fucking birdcage
>jokes about the motherfucking Knife her weird kid carries to school every day
All shit Susie instantly noted and either offered to fix or basically went "...you okay dude?" about. And shes a teenager. Shes the bad influence teenager from the broken household moving around towns because Barneys in the monster-Military going
""I shoot you, you shoot me, Im never home with my family"
The forgotten man's probably gaster right?
>Krusie isn't real
>and even if it was, Kris is a woman
>and even if he isn't, Krusielle is better
the absolute state of doefags
>>714002094>>714002576>>714002720>>714002652Poly is good because it BTFO's both chuds and shipfaggots.
>Kris, where the fuck did you went with that purple nigger?
JESUS CHRIST TOBY
>>714002598If their favourite vtuber didn't see the dialogue, neither did they.
>>714003108Uh oh tranny melty
>>714002910I mean, there's a reason he went out of his way to make a yandere reaction sprite for her in Ch4
>>714002895Wickabell furiously typing.
>>714002895Susie and Kris playing tic tac toe on each other's foreheads
>>714003026Anon are you asking me to draw Yaba-Daba Asgore? Because if thats what you want I wont do it, I like Asgore
I wish for Kris's happiness
>>714002738While i would like Dess to be the knight it somehow feels too much of a red herring, plus Dess's whole character is "find her" and her just showing up in chapter 3 and being relevant for the rest of the game doesn't seem like it fits into that mold
>>714003146scene/hot topic girls cant spawn in natural anymore with the death of the american mall
zoomers literally will never see someone like noelle ever in their life, it perfectly explains why she gets headcanon'd as a tranny by tumblrites
>>714003241How would Susie react to Kris however?
>>714002405Why did WingDing want Onionsan whacked?
>>714002798>>714002981Kris is a young teenager. There are many skinny lanky, flat chested and narrow hipped females out there.
As I said Kris can easily be a tomboy.
>>714002273>NOOOOOOOOOO THE AUTHOR KNOWS BETTER THAN YOULittle Dark Age is now an official far-right song, despite it trying to mock them. You lost the battle retard.
>>714003176Gaster is the one sending messages through the device
Forgotten Man is the Forgotten Man
>>713999094You can still do the egg puzzle if Ramb turns to stone
The egg puzzle only becomes impossible if you do the sword route
you disappoint your therapist on the sword route :(
>>714003340He knew too much.
>>714003317>scene/hot topic girlsShe isn't one of these at all
>>714003175i wonder how much of that can be attributed to just not understanding humans
does anyone have the greentext with the theory that ralsei exists because Dess was pregnant and got lost in the dark world, or whatever?
>>714003303I'm guessing to maintain that "lost" theme, the Knight will be Dess with a scarred or fucked up consciousness that can be saved, which is what Kris promised(or wants) to do. The Twisted Sword is what pushes this for me
>>714003317Noelle is definitely not a "hot topic" girl. If anything she's a trade church girl that just so happens to be kinda gay
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>>714002895draw minikris, our FUARKING HERO
>>714002819How do people even see this Anime Sasuke twink design and think that it might be a girl? Even short hair warrior girls like Casca from Berserk is easy to spot as a girl. How are people see Kris as female? Never played any game and don't attach lack of breasts or wide hips to masculinity?
>>714003194Kind of insane you anyone who is anti-trans can like undertale and deltarune make it make sense.
>Extremely pro LGBT creator>Extremely LGBT fanbase>Filled to the brim with LGBT charactersI guess Chuds have no options because chuds can't create good art.
>>714003383Maybe a gaster follower, then?
>>714003196just like /v/ to rate fulfillment based on residual unhappiness caused to those around them
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>>714003146>>714003317>toby referenced thiskekaroo
>>714003175>>714003436or denial, even. it's a big part of her character. just like when moms refuse to admit when their child has a problem (i can relate).
[FACT] Noelle was wet the entire time during the rape scene. She can't forget the feeling which is why she invites you to the festival
>>714002895Susie resting her chin on Kris' head.
>>714003383Is Papyrus the Therapist?
>SANS, STOP BOOZING UP MY PATIENTS MOTHER AND BONING HER. THEIR EGO IS ALREADY BEYOND SUICIDAL>Heh, you said "boning">NGYAHHHH
>>713993863Krisellebrosโฆ
>>714003317>>714003146the word 'zoomer' has no meaning whatsoever anymore, does it?
>>714002383The poly thing is not a joke because even without starwalker both Lanina and Lanino still long to get back with Roulx.
And their relationship is analogous to the main team.
So Poly is canon. Boring MonoShipfags btfoed.
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>>714003146That is just the troon mentality though. "I'm socially awkward and autistic and can't find my own girlfriend. I'll just fetishise myself and become my own girlfriend/the object of my desire"
>>714003287>loli krisproceed
>>714002723now combine this and the vessel edit
>>714003608TRVTHNVKE. Our little needy SNOWSLAVE.
>>714002863The way she writes in her blog is similar to how trans women write
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Cease the shipfagging. Let's discuss the real important questions with our xisters from reddit
>>714003103The man who drew this will never breed.
>>714002645The man who typed this will never breed.
>>714003513Stay mad, ugly fat man.
>>714003651>>714002512NTA, but Starwalker? i must have missed something
>>714003220>give you option to shit on UndynexAlphys by selling her chocolates to Sans and getting money to go on a Krusie datebased dog
>>713998897undyne is at least vaguely plot relevant
>>714002895Susie wanting to axe you a question
>>714002602>The fact that Kris wears feminine clothing during the rock concert.It's called glam rock you fucking philistine
>>714003784your save is bricked, start over from chapter 1
>>714002863Noelle's interests and the way they act is very typical of the way every passoid trans girl acts.
>Super girly to the point of exaggerating>Is into video games and extremely edgy shit>Comes off as shy but has a more aggressive sideNoelle 100% has a penis and balls.
>>714003741>Kris is charaabsolutely nothing implies this.
>>714003146>>714003317Noelle is more like the weeby nerdy girl who isn't autistic enough to be some kind of outcast but spends time a lot of time on the internet and plays jrpgs and watches anime. She's a very specific archetype of girl that at this point has been replaced by terminally online tumblrites and only really existed in the 2000s.
>>714003071This
The knight is a deer that drools for pre-washed baby carrots
>Poly fags get inclusion as a miserable relationship
>a punchline to be laughed at
>they take this inch and run a mile
>start claiming that the main characters will start swinging in a degenerate orgy
Why are they like this? You think Toby "cares about Japan more than the rest of the world combined" Fox is going to follow up the church chapter with a canon throuple? You guys are fucking retarded ngl
>>714003784if you got starwalker then they hook up with him right after the rouxls fight
>>713999413>establishing Noelleโs masochism fetish
>>714003726i dont recall seeing a suicide note in the ARG
>>714003853No i know who starwalker is but I cant remember him interacting with roulx in 3 or 4
>>714003513>extremely pro LGBTaHAHAHa he think you guys are cringen Toby literally made memes on /v/
>>714003010This isn't your game chud Toby doesn't like you and will never pander to you.
Toby will 100% make Susie x Noelle x Kris a canon throuple.
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>>714003741Chara keeps forcing me to masturbate until I cum multiple times a day and I'm afraid she's going to give me erectile dysfunction sooner or later. What can I do to stop her?
>>714003726I thought the party line was that trans women are real women, so there would be no difference.
You're sinning, blasphemer, go 41.
>>714003136And you are NOT Kris. Kris can take (You) out anytime they want. The only reason they don't keep (You) out is because they need to ender the dark world to do their mysterious plans.
(You) are not Kris, (You) cannot enter Kris without Kris putting (You) back inside.
>>714003991If you have him recruited, after Elnina and Lanino break up with Rouxls they resolve to only date other sky objects from now on. Then Starwalker slides onto screen and they leave with him.
>>714003919>Toby "cares about Japan more than the rest of the world combined"Didn't Xenoblade 3 end with Rex getting a polycule and having a child with each of his love interests?
>>714003513You can still enjoy good story, writing, gameplay, visuals and music.. The games aren't even overly pro LGBT. There aren't even canonically trans characters in it, for the most part it's just people pushing their headcannon.
I believe the King of Cards had the Shadow Mantle during his battle.
>>714003638Catti supports Kriselle route. Trust the plan
>>714000263This Cuckoldry is Pissing me off...
>>714003527Onion is unironically my Deltawife
>>713993863Krusie WON. Holy shit, Krusie won so goddamn hard.
>>71399386341% is about to jump to 65% after this
>>714000503not shown: noelle grasping a box of chalk to goad susie into doing this like a dog to peanut butter
>>713993863Kris is confirmed female by mr "yuri fetish" Fox
>>714001846>transy fox starts hrt
>>714003919Those are people who defend Soriel because "Toriel has rights to date Sans and not give a shit about her husband"
>>714003513>Kind of insane you anyone who is anti-transEven gays/lesbians are starting to distance away from trannies. One visit to /lgbt/ is the perfect example of how they act when there's no consequence of shitting on troons despite being faggots themselves.
All memes aside, do you think Noelle was actually going to kiss him right here?
>>714004325it's weird because i feel like he put that in to make fun of le heckin wholesome ship art they used to get
>>714004325asgore isnt her husband, and sans has toriel all to himself. might wanna take your meds
>>713998816There's nothing wrong to killing things in a videogame. Toby knows this, too. Deltarune doesn't have a pacifist route.
>>713999104>He goes to another school, while blushingSUSIE x RALSEI BROS... HOLD THE FUCKING LINE.
Ask yourselves this, from a writing standpoint what's the most interesting and tragic thing Tricky Tony could do?
>The hot dino girl wanted by everyone actually has a crush on a soft boy who technically isn't real, they've been spending a lot of time together in the dark world.>The tragedy of her love is that it will never be realized, she can never truly be with Ralsei, and Ralsei can never be with her.
>>714003415She is a closet one. She's prim and proper because her mom makes her that way but if you look at the stuff she's into and the people she hangs out with and who she's attracted to.
She's 100% a secret edgelord.
>Strongly attracted to Susie who wasa butch edgy mean girl. Noelle was attracted to Susie who was a feared asshole bully. Part of me wonders if Noelle might lose interest in Susie not that Susie is nicer now.
>Plays a cute wholesome game but specifically uses a glitch to have the animals be headless cats>Is into True Crime shit>Hangs out with the local goth Catti>Admires her older sister who was a rebel edgelord too>Hidden violent tendenciesNoelle is 100% an edgelord.
>>714003473Play the fucking game. Neolle only does that shit cus her mom makes her.
>>714004398I don't think she was going to initiate one because she was still a bit hesitant, but she was putting herself in the position wanting Kris to kiss her.
>>713998897The irrelevant cat.
>>713993863>I wonW-what? Just like that?
>>714003415>She isn't one of these at allARG blogposts says otherwise, its obvious toby is conveying that personality to her. her choice of clothing are the only thing that dont match
>dont want Suselle to happen cause it is toxic as fuck and just Noelle trying to unload her trauma-caused fetishes onto Susie
>still dont want Noelle to end up sad at the end
I like the Deer girl guys. what solution is there?
>>714003175>>714003436>>714003603>I dont think people apreciate how shit of a mother Toriel isAccoridng to some faggot on /v/ a "shit mom" is someone who
>Takes care of her family>Puts them first in most things>Constantly makes great breakfast for them>Doesn't even get super mad when they do ridiculous shit>Puts their safety first without being over protective>Lets her kids be weird Asgorefags are fucking desperate huh?
>>714004483>Is into True Crime shitI thought she was into cryptics instead.
>>714004602Her and Berdly
>>714004602>what solution is there?*Noelle will ride me.
>>714004398It was Toby doing "See you could have get the DOE on the festival but you choose to be an ugly bastard who mind broken her"
Snowgrave fags will be the only cucks in canon while ACT CHADS will be able to pick between Susie and Noelle FIGHTING to get a ride with Kris
>>713999473Soriel's popularity pales to Frans.
>>714004602Friendship route, simple as. Noelle realizes the error of her mindset and comes to appreciate Susie for who she actually is.
>>714004525>Everybody under Papyrus>When he hasn't even shown upI Toby going to haul ass in the next three chapters or is this list bunk?
>>714003747But enough about you.
>>714003995That was old-/v/ when the board was moderate and libertarian. This was before the election tourists.
>>714004110>The games aren't even overly pro LGBT.Yes they really are.
>>714004602Noelle x Ralsei? Provided the dark world isn't destroyed in the end, it could work.
>>714004650Trvth Nvke many people are not ready to accept.
>>714004602I still retain [hope shaped object] for going between the lines leading to a better outcome. Weird route is going to end with her being a hollowed out husk so PROCEED'ing isn't the answer.
>>714004398Not exactly...
>>714001573kris IS male based on the X in the UI when you spare an enemy with him, he uses the same one ralsei does, while susie & noelle use a different one. however he's designed to be gender ambiguous and is canonically non-binary. i think it fits with the themes of the game.
>>714004712sans hasn't done shit either, his first required appearance is fucking your mom
Berdkrusiellesansyrusrielle
>>714004632One of her most searched topics is Crime.
>>714004739>N-No uStay mad about your president, you can still flee to NY.
>>714004525she's on the list though
>>714004602Unironically Berdly does care about Noelle tho. Considering Alphys was originally a man who "got the girl" maybe Berdly will also get either Noelle or Susie depending on who Kris pick?
>>714000503Jesus Christ, how horrifying.
>everyone selling their sans stock
Don't forget to kneel when "Song That Plays When You Fight Sans" happens next chapter.
>>714004749ralsei is for the soul
>>714004621The first two parts are just the fucking basic, not something you get a price for. The rest Thats a cool aunt/uncle you fag. Your not supposed to be your kids best friend. If your apathethic to your kid basically be "most likely to shoot up the school" you need to step in and do something, not go "Haha Oh kris, you ate all the pie. I can tell because that is your personal knife. The knife you always carry around. here your Knife. Ohoho"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPPwrFNQssg
>>714004650Nah. As much as Berdly might proclaim that he wants an harem, he doesn't come across as actually liking Noelle that way. Neither of them would be happy if they were to date.
>>714004602Noelle x Dess. She deserves the tire siscon route.
>>714004595>her choice of clothing are the only thing that dont matchExactly this. She only does steriotypical "good girl" stuff and is polite because her mom forces her to be that way but that's not in Noelle's true nature.
If Noelle acted the exact way she wanted she would probably bully people with chapter 1 Susie.
>>713998897>>713999860She's based
>getting the good end is keeping Susie and Noelle apart
>>714004334Most troons are just failed homosexuals who have bought into the current trans zeitgeist because they're a naive teenager or young adult, that or they're just stupid and don't know any better. As for 'transbians' or 'gay ftms', it's just a weird fetish.
People don't even play into the whole 'born in the wrong body' shtick anymore, it's just heckin' valid to embrace your weird feitsh openly and rope everyone else into playing along
>>713999914>>714000327>>714001737>Y(o)ulle>Yule>Yule is a winter festival historically observed by the Germanic peoples that was incorporated into Christmas during the Christianisation of the Germanic peoples. In present times adherents of some new religious movements (such as Modern Germanic paganism) celebrate Yule independently of the Christian festival. Scholars have connected the original celebrations of Yule to the Wild Hunt, the god Odin, and the heathen Anglo-Saxon Mลdraniht ("Mothers' Night"). The term Yule and cognates are still used in English and the Scandinavian languages as well as in Finnish and Estonian to describe Christmas and other festivals occurring during the winter holiday season. Furthermore, some present-day Christmas customs and traditions such as the Yule log, Yule goat, Yule boar, Yule singing, and others may have connections to older pagan Yule traditions. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YuleHE CAN'T FUCKING KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
>>714001130Maybe Papyrus was born after the Forgotten Man was finally remembered.
>>713998498Fountain Town is specifically special for some reason. And all the guys that turn to stone in the TV world were either stolen from elsewhere so they didn't 'really' belong or it's a mystery why they did so. We don't exactly know what was up with RAMB and why he turned.
>>714004591>This is pissing me off>I'm the ORIGINAL brother fucker
>>714004739Toby made this meme, do you think tumblr would let him use "schizo" slur?
>>714004749Have those two had a single interaction? Also Im not sure two doormats make a good couple. Plus, considering Dess is probably into Asriel that would make for one weird double-wedding
>>714004701>Sans' most popular ships are with>an old lady>children>his brother>AU versions of himselfDamn.
>>713993725 (OP)I thought this dude was gonna be evil
>carol is awake at night to call kris on the weird route
>carols office is specified to be empty at night whereas every other building is either "closed" or has no response
>kris refuses to open the closet door where the knight is hiding
>the knight is still present at the end of the dark world as they touch hands with kris if you try to backtrack which further confirms there was someone hiding in the church and that they have a relation to kris
>hmm who could the knight be!
"B-But how could Carol carry Undyne to the bunker?" you say in a frail weak unsure voice
It is simple my deformed little friend, the game and the sweepstakes make frequent references to the "holiday family ninja style" and Carol has a black katana in her room, confirming that there is some truth to this. If Undyne can randomly be so strong then why can't Carol? That would also make it easy for Carol to give Asgore a black shard
>>714003175Toriel is the kind of mother who dotes on her oldest and more or less ignores her youngest. Adding to the fact that Kris is adopted, it wouldn't surprise me if he's started questioning whether or not Toriel actually loves him at all.
>>713999696Fuck off rouxls
>>714004456And then the power of love will make the imaginary boy real and everybody clapped.
Next.
>>714004602Noelle is literally happiest when sheโs with Kris
>>714005040Kek the moment I heard "the roaring" I thought of the rumbling
>>714004936I'm still waiting on my god damn Megalo Strike Back remix. Penumbra be damned.
>>714003513troons cannot fathom people being able to enjoy a piece of media while disagreeing with the creator on politics
>>714003741the fucked up thing is that i'm on the level of schizophrenia where i can almost see that making sense considering mantle softly implying kris could've stopped snowgrave if he really wanted to.
i mean even then that's not really "chara (kris) did snowgrave" but still.
>>713993863>he delayed the game for years and years waiting for the lgbtbbq+ nonsense to fall out of fashion so we can get hetkinoTruly a genius
>>714004749Ralsei is for Susie.
>>714002512>if the poly thing was made to be a joke then it wouldn't ended with another joke
>>714004991Susie and Noelle have a duality to them.
Susie's true nature is a nice, kind, and hopeful girl who became mean as a way to put up a front and protect herself.
Noelle's true nature is a mean, and dark girl who acts nicer and kinder than she is because she was raised to be that way.
Its ironic.
Catti wants to keep Susie away from Noelle because she thinks Susie will "corrupt" Noelle when Susie is the kind person deep down and Noelle is the less than kind person deep down.
And before anyone gets the wrong idea I'm not saying that Noelle is evil, I'm saying that her true nature is NOT that of a goody two-shoes.
Which is one of the reasons why I'm confident that Noelle is 100% going to cuck the player (not Kris the PLAYER) during the weird route.
>>713993863Friends also do that
>>714005071>"B-But how could Carol carry Undyne to the bunker?" you say in a frail weak unsure voiceokay that got me kek
dont forget that she btfo'd the dog bandits by herself, and dont forget the black shard doesnt change from dark world -> light world, implying that the knight has some form of power in the light world
>>713993863told you Toby woudn't do this symbolism if Suselle was the main pairing. Suselle was meant to create drama so that the main pairing isn't "obvious" like in many anime
>>713999382>Again, if you don't "belong", you'll turn to stone. The pippin at the counter states he never belonged.Damn
>>714005254Did you make it?
>>714004621>Puts them first in most thingsYou mean like checking on them and making sure they're okay when they don't come home as expected, and not partying and getting drunk with some random dude? Yeah, it'd be pretty awful if Toriel did something like that, wouldn't it?
>>714003287Then do everything Kris wants.
>>714005059he's so pathetic
it fits him
Can you play CH2 normal until you get the egg and then backtrack all the way to Spamton's shop to start weird?. I cant remember if the egg was after the traffic part with Queen
the caller is not the knight, they want kris to close dark fountains with the soul
>>714001434He was saving Toriel. I wouldn't be surprised if he is trying to investigate what's happening in the shelter and using Toriel for it.
>>714003853This made me laugh for a second until I realized that all the little minor things you could miss can truly mess up the end game experience.
>>714004806Imagine her doing this and then coming back downstairs to Susie. Sheโd smell it all over him
>>714005276Friends who get married.
That one guy that keeps posting the Noelle <-> Kris and Susie <-> Ralsei shipping chart has the right idea.
>"Hmm. Who should I fuck today? The local bum? A mailman? A taxi driver? Or that werewolf monster who's recently moved to our town? Maybe all of them at once?"
>>713993863this is what winning looks like
>>714003513bait but its because they generally dont like looking at media critically in general. /v/ just wants to fuck susie they dont care about the actual deeper narrative themed
>>714005378meanwhile the knight wants the soul destroyed
ORE NO.... DELTARUNO DESU
>>714005057That's why I think it works better. They both are on incomplete character arcs, and Noelle's will probably end in a place to settle her failed relationships and meet new people.
>>714005040Toby literally worked heavily on homestuck the most queer and LGBT web comic in existence, one that popularized polyships.
>>714005378THE KNIGHT WILL DUEL WITH THE HEROES STRIFE BY STRIFE!
HMMMM WHY DOESNT THE KNIGHT STOP THEM FROM CLOSING THE FOUNTAIN AND FOLLOWING THE PROPHECY I DONT GET IT!?
WHY DOESNT THE KNIGHT JUST MAKE 100 FOUNTAINS AND START THE ROARING RIGHT AWAY DURRRRRRRR
>>714005378Its Knight saying they can't open the portal without SOUL you retard
>>714002137Cause there's something fucky with him that he's not telling us. That or special prophecy bullshit
>>713999086I'm scared that'll be a thing, though you can no shadow mantel the knight so I doubt the crystals will affect it either way.
>>714005249hospital scene in snowgrave ch. 2.
read it and weep.
Why is Toriel like that? What happened to her after the divorce?
https://files.catbox.moe/ejbca8.jpg
>>714005492spade king is a larping faggot who never even met the damn knight
>>714005492>inb4 there's multiple knights
>>714004650She literally despises Berdly so no.
>>714005378>>714005524doesn't the JP translation say something more explicit like "kris can't enter the dark world without a soul" or some shit?
>>714005452Ralsei is going to die in the story, who gives a s hit about his shipping?
>>714005492The Knight wants to free Kris from YOU
>>714001939You're right male humanfags are super autistic, even if I support male Kris.
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>>714003146>Antonymph hoodieI know what kind of tranny you are.
Me personally? I think you should kill yourself, little tranny.
>>714005171>making shit upNoelle is extremely neutral towards Kris.
>>714005524he literally does exactly that in front of you at the end of 2 dumb faggot, do you not see him rip the soul out of himself first?
>>714005589Me on the left
>>713999006>Was asleep the whole chapter so she didn't do SHIT despite all the hype>Literal child neglect + drunk whore scene that was so bad it chased off Susie after she wanted to be comforted by Toriel.
>>713993863Fanart from a week ago btw
>>713999104Everytime I saw this Susie, I had a gut feeling Toby was projecting things he likes on to her. That pony tail is what sells it. Noelle is cute but is the girl next door. Susie is someone that Toby longed for in middle school/high school.
>>714002004Never going to happen. Kris will never face someone with seven SOULs of power.
>>714005249>Krisโฆ Kris, youโre back!then again self insert shippers are notoriously secondaries to everything
>>714005604>>714005492there are multiple knights
or the knight told king to do that knowing he's a jobber
or toby is a shitty writer
>>714005187Niggers didn't do any harm to fighting games, it was the trannies that have ruined them within a span of 3-5 years.
>>714004807>kris IS male based on the X in the UI when you spare an enemy with him,MaleKrisfags really are schizos...
>>714005187>ruining fandomsTroons ARE the fandom. They were there since day 1.
Especially since a lot of Undertales intiial fans came from Homestuck since Toby worked on that.
>>714005456>>714005664Toriel fucked Spamton. It's canon.
>>714005376I think you're locked out of weird route once you do the normal Viroviro tutorial fight
>>714005745>Toby saw that and thought: Yup, my end game
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I still wonder why Susie is ashamed of her tail. her teacher is 40% tail and one of her classmates, arguably the coolest kid in school, is a snake, 100% tail
>>714002512Starwalker is a joke character that can be skipped.
>>714005361>You mean like checking on them and making sure they're okay when they don't come home as expecteShe literally does this
>and not partying and getting drunk with some random dude? "WAAH WAAH WAAH THE DIVORCED WOMAN WHO ALWAYS PUTS EVERYONE FIRST HAD FUN FOR ONCE IN HER LIFE WAAH!"
Asgore will die alone btw.
>>714005810>Troons ARE the fandomYou might be onto something, being a tranny yourself
>>714005412>knows toriel has an alcohol problem already>gets her fucked up so she doesn't go out looking for you>stays sober himself to babysit her
>>714003953I don't even think Noelle actually likes Susie. I think she likes the idea of her and the capability of her rudeness. So you're right. It's also why she basically goes 1000% with Kris during snowgrave. Kris probably mindbroke her with all the pranking when they were younger and she longed for that again.
>>714005810>it doesn't countsure......
>>714005883Her tail is her penis
>>714005883She went to a human school and people noticed that she was a monter because of the tail so she got bullied
>>714005883Because her tail is small.
Kris: I'm a guy
Troon: me too *kills himself*
>>714005663That makes you 60% better than the average MaleKrisfag.
>>714005883She moved in from a human town where she was bullied for being a monster and had to become tough.
>>714004398Hope this can answer it
>>714003834Most of those glam rock members were troons and faggots.
Most fans of glam rock are also troons and faggots.
>>714006007I want to keep them as pets
>>714003317>>714003146I am a late 90s zoomie, there were a few, but it died quickly
TTD
>>714005612why would gaster speak like a 12 year old boy
>people spent years thinking Susie and Noelle were making out in there
>in reality Noelle was probably talking about how much she missed Kris and Susie was excited to wingman for her bro
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>>714004807I thought you were making that up. But nope, it's real.
Susie really had to drag herself out of the mud
>bed is just planks, no mattress or blankets or even cushion
>drunkard dad or mom
>no friends
>few friends she made always disappeared when her parents moved to another town
>so poor she has to eat random bullshit like chalks
>banned for life from all you can eat buffet
>>714000980What do you have to do to get this cut scene? Doesn't Susie show up after you're done with the mini Kris?
>>714005378The Knight wants to use Dark Worlds for their nefarious secret plans but DOESN'T want the Roaring to happen, which is why Kris is sent to shut the fountains off with the SOUL afterwards.
>>713999473>Soriel fansAll 3 of them
Terrifying
And that is if they dont rope when we inevitably have some asgore-toriel reconciliation moment thats been building up
>>714006007Free this sexually active toxic couple
>>714005745>Head filled with love>LOVEWhat did he mean by this?
>>714005958did the yellow eyes and purple skin somehow didn't clue them in?
>>714006116Noelle's trans penis will be put inside of Susie, Kris, AND Ralsei.
Maybe Berdly will get some pitty Deer trans dick if he's not too annoying.
How did suselle job so hard that it got over taken by krusie, haremslop, and fucking cuck posting even on sites like r*ddit
>>713993863Didn't his team want to add a scene to solidify Susie x Noelle but Toby said no? Holy fuck, we are winning
>>714006145you can still move minikris when Susie returns and if you attack Susie, it will trigger Kris trying to save her. If you just walk around and do nothing, mini kris will explode and Susie do whatever you picked in the dialog about the game
>>714006214love not LOVE okay? praise gaster
>>714000825Where papyrus?
>>714006236>fucking cuck posting even on sites like r*dditCuckposting is only a 4chan thing because as much as anons here claim to hate it the anons here are obsessed with it.
>>713997010What the fuck is the shadow mantle supposed to be? A cloak that they wore?
>>714006236oh have you guys finally realized that suselle being endgame was never the plan and you were doomposting over nothing?
>>714006236Suselle is just very boring. Undyne and Alphys did it better
>>714006339Exactly. Just like how whites racists of both genders loved BLACKED porn the most.
>>714006326>mini kris will explode and Susie do whatever you picked in the dialog about the gameWait. I thought he only exploded if you told Susie you weren't having fun.
>>714006061Still not reading your incel delusions btw.
>>714006113Now I'm genuinely curious as to why Toby designed two different Xs for each gender. Unironically what did he mean by this?
>>714006136she does have a mattress and pillow, they're just kinda shitty
no blanket though
>>714006236don't forget (You)elle
https://files.catbox.moe/g025dj.jpeg
Kris is so lucky
>>714006339>>714006428what causes this though
>>714006374I'm not a susellefag but this statement annoys me.
Too many people think "wholesome" is boring because if two people in a relationship mutually like each other and genuinely like being around one another without toxicity or drama is "uninteresting".
It shows how screwed this generation is when it comes to relationships.
>>714006236Suselle was very obviously very fucking toxic and bad from the start. I love Noelle but the moment shes in the same room with Susie it goes bad. I just was afraid Toby would go for it anyways cause muh lesbians
>>714000213>and not be penalized by itYou have several chapters left anon, watch what you say.
>>714006236I think Toby made it Korrasami on purpose. On one hand will subvert expectations, on the other he also masked Krusie and Kriselle as actual end games. If he made Krusie obvious from chapter one it would be less exciting
>>714006339go take a look at that place for even just one minute. they are literally posting memes declaring that noelle will watch krusie from the cuck chair
>>714002051>noelle begs for kris to stop as (YOU) โpierceโ her with your โthornโ causing her to bleed(originally causing a flower to die)Yep no sexual undertones there
>>714006236because it's hot when it's a cute person being cucked
>>714006587Dumb bitch get off the piano
>>714005901>"WAAH WAAH WAAH THE DIVORCED WOMAN WHO ALWAYS PUTS EVERYONE FIRST HAD FUN FOR ONCE IN HER LIFE WAAH!"Yeah, you're right, getting sloppy shitdaced drunk with some dude she's known for like three days without even mentioning that she was bringing him over to her son is justified. Kris and Susie being disturbed by Toriel's behavior just proves they're retarded kids who just need to back off and let Toriel have her fun, right? Fun, fun, fun, it's all good so long as goat mom and funny meme skeleton end up boning.
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>>714005860>BIG SHOT heard playing from inside as they approach the door
>>714006550Or maybe they like some conflict on their fiction. It's not that deep.
>>714006550character dynamics being interesting is an important part of storytelling
>>713999031This doesn't really make any sense to me as an excuse
It's not like that power cord was created in the library or anything, so why is it beholden to specifically the library if it's been assumedly at Kris' house for years and years at this point? How is that any different from it leaving the factory and going straight to Kris' house? At what point does an item designate its dark world "home" after being manufactured and shipped off?
>>713993863He won so hard....
>>714006543Projection is what causes it. The reason why racists secretely loved BLACKED porn is because deep down they secretly fear that black people are superior to whites so they overcompensate by saying blacks are inferior.
As for 4chan there's a similar reason. This place is full of degenerates yet they like to label things they don't like as "degenerate" whether its LGBT or whatever but the anons here are more degenerat and sick in the head than the average homofag, lesbian or troon.
>>714006532Damn, imagine all the manga doujins if Toby ends the game on Krusie
>>714006741>doubling down after getting called outi accept your concession btw
Will Tobias implement boss rush for the final dojo?
>>714004621>>714005901Torieltard copes are getting really desperate. Grim.
>Noelle will finally admit she has feelings for Kris
>Kris and Susie will be dating by then
Cuckelle is doomed
>>714006236Susie and Noelle are at their worst and/or most boring when together.
I just defeated the Roaring Knight at my second try today, it feels good
>uuuum it's the heckin chuds posting nigger porn!
IDF found time for this thread in-between shooting kids
>>714006795>we hook Kris up with this>he replays us by hitting us with a hockey stickWE CAN TAKE IT BACK YOU KNOW
The Knight is unironically sexy
I just wish the fanart kept the angles instead of rounding them out
>>714004936If we get to BTFO Sans and force him to flee the very dimension, I will fly to Japan and kneel to Toby in fucking person anon.
>>714000213>berdelyImpliying his crippled wing is not going to slap you on the ass
>>714006550Krusie is wholesome and everyone loves it
>>714006569This what really weirded me out. After chapter one adventure i wasn't so much on Krusie train, so after i found Noelle in chapter 1 near her gate, i told her that Susie was mean and trashed me into lockers hoping Noelle would feel bad for me. Instead....She wanted to switch partners so that she could get bullied and trashed into lockers????? Wtf either it was meant to be a joke or Noelle was insane, i never dropped Suselle and Kriselle harder after that
>>714007014I hope the Knight / Dess is spooky looking
>>714006487There's no mattress there dude, that's literal bed planks.
>>714004993Did you know the unibomber was also an autogenophile who almost went the whole nine yards and got his penis chopped off but got really embarassed and angry all of a sudden which washed away his hornyness.
He then pissed off into the woods and bombed some people.
>>714006909>the face she's going to make after turning Asgore into an extra large popsicle in Chunk 5
>>714006854honestly after it got turned into the "love dojo" i just gave up on it ever being anything serious
Then it is done. Susie is for Kris and Noelle can have Berdly.
>>714007014i hope rudy is the knight
>>714006236Fucking kek, actually got a good laugh out of me.
>>714007063what kinda fuckin bed planks are purple with springs sticking out of them
>>714006795>Toby removed suselle flicking har>he inserted entire minikris shipping moment with shampoo referenceNow i understand the "plan"
>>714005000holy based also checked
>>714004483There is not a woman in the world who isn't into true crime stuff and I don't think it's solely her mom who's making her do that
That aside, she does have a weird drive to be dominated and controlled by someone strong
I think the scene/goth stuff is because of her sister, outside of hanging out with Catti
>>714007125To be fair, he's also pretty good looking.
>>714007072Thank you anon
What would sex with Onion-san (female) be like?
>>714006550>>714006738>>714006756>redditors and tumblrites when the relationship is healthy and wholesome
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TOBY!!!!! MAKE A DARK WORLD THAT ENCOMPASSES HOMETOWN SO WE CAN SEE LIGHTNER DESIGNS OF EVERYONE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
>>714001486Motherfucker (YOU) are canonically an entity in deltarune separate from kris. The only way kris is meant for self insertion is in the most literal way of being inside them
>>714006814>>714006873your making up interpretations to go along with what you want to happen. there is no direct way she knows about you until the thorn ring scene in her room.
>>714006061Man, Toby came a long way out of Undyne x Alphys
Now it feels like it was made on purpose as shitpost
>>714007524But why?
I have a super soaker so Library NPC can't bother me.
>>714005071>the Knight's weapon is called a Black Knife>she wields it like a sword, not like how you wield a katanaFor fuck's sake. Carol's certainly the voice on the phone, but there's no way in hell she's the Knight.
>>714005000Toby, I kneel...
>>714007505Based illiterate, something can be heckin wholesome and entertaining see I dunno KRIS and Susie?
>>714007653headcanon. You, the Soul and Kris are all Kris
>>714007653>Kris>hidden face>no voice sound>unlike SOUL he has a head to rest Susie's chin onWho do you think Toby use as self insertion? dickless heart symbol or typical shounen aniime twink?
>>714006587Why do females love this ship so much?
>>714007026it's because she likes scary things. She said it somewhere in ch2. She's attracted by Susie exclusively for her bully aura. Have you noticed she drops the flirt act when Susie visits her house and starts talking to Susie like she was a friend instead of a crush? Thats because she doesn't know Susie is actually very pure and kind so when she gets to know her better she stops being flustered. Then she gets aroused again when Susie stands up to Carol. She doesn't like Susie. She likes being scaroused. If Berdly was a buff bully she'd flirt with him.
>>714002645You will breed, chad.
These two idiots easily have the most chemistry in the game.
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>>713993863>I wonAnother loyal Krusie shipper finally reveals himself now that the time is right.
>>714007890>the little tumblrite is still seething about healthy relationshipsKEKAROOOOO
>>714007664>her hearing a voice unlike krisโ if he gets downed during the berdly fightbut even disregarding that you need to read between the lines. obviously she doesnt literally know about the (You) behind the sceeen. what she does know is that when kris acts differently (because of your influence) she cant stand it and is overjoyed when kris comforts her outside of your influence
>>714007926For me it was naming Kris ASS on my first playthrough of Chapter 3.
>>714007926>edgy idiot and based retard coupleReally can't miss with this
>>714007664She wants to fix what's wrong with Kris. (You) are what's wrong with Kris. Thus, she doesn't want Soul Kris. She wants Soulesss Kris. Not hard to understand without cope.
>>714002895Frisk and Chara laughing at Kris with the SOVL.
>>714007926Yep
Prime wife material
Kris is so lucky man
>>714007926>bonding in slice of life scenarios>bonding through adventures and battlesWho the hell would even trade it for fucking Suselle? Even Susie remaining solo would be less cringe
>>714007793You're a fucking retard and I hope for your sake that you're just pretending to be
>>714007835>unlike SOUL he has a head to rest Susie's chin on>he doesnโt know
>>714003175It's wild how UT Toriel is super overprotective while Deltarune Toriel doesn't give a fuck about Kris.
>>714006756>>714006890The wholesomeness is the dynamic. If someone is genuinely bothered by that it shows how mentally ill they are.
>>714006738It is if you need conflict in all relationships all the time. At that point you're just projecting you issues.
>>714007023>>714007762Because most Krusiefags are selfinsert fags despite the game hitting the fact over the head that (You) are NOT Kris.
>>714006479>Unironically what did he mean by this?The bumps at the ends of Kris and Ralsei's crosses represent penile glands, because they have penises.
>>714007843>MenThe childhood friend with feelings hidden deep down, a desire to go back to the way things were and connect again
>WomenNow Snowgrave for them comes from a dominating and powerful male taking control
It's both hot to them and plays into their biologically coded desires
If we're talking just normally, it's childhood friend stuff too
>>714008308That's because neither of her kids have died yet
>>714008308How has she NOT noticed the weird cage and blood on the floor of his room?
>>714007926They just like hanging out with each other and being around each other, which is way more than anyone can say for any of the other ships. This kind of goofy, uninhibited dynamic makes for a very strong basis for romance, because it means no matter what they're going to like being around each other. When they date, they go from idiots to idiots that get to kiss each other.
>>714008192>manI can't wait until Toby confirms that Kris has a vagina just to see chuds on /v/ cope and seethe.
>>714003176It's Grandpa Semi.
>>714007926Thereโs a reason why most susellefags have given up are are now trying for the two for one deal
>>714008308is it that wild though? ut toriel lost eight kids
though considering the fact that dess going missing was clearly a major turning point for the holidays and dreemurrs, it is a bit surprising that toriel wasnt anywhere close to as concerned as she should have been
>>714008005you're still just making stuff up. you said she wants to get rid of you but doesn't know about you.
which is it?
>>714008054>headcanon
>>714005617>>714005378Yes, the japanese version confirms he can't ENTER the dark world
>>714003513Cope. Your type of fan hates cute human art.
>>714006113>it's realHoly shit
>>714008365>Because most Krusiefags are selfinsert fags despite the game hitting the fact over the head that (You) are NOT Kris.Kris likes Susie independently of our control, and I want Kris to be happy.
>>714008446Kris is nonbinary, wether or not they have a penis or vagina
>>714008658I know that but chuds dont
>>714008382I mean, female artists specifically
>>714008658What does nonbinary mean then?
>>714008584>and I want Kris to be happy.No you don't if you did you wouldn't have restarted over and over to beat the knight and you would have never played the weird route.
No joke, I just got rangebanned from posting pictures after this
>>714006061The tranny janny is a susellefag, this is no longer a joke
>>714008658What is a woman?
>>714008464Without a doubt these two idiots will end up with each other.
>>714000825I think Jockington will be the key to stop the roaring
>>714008658it's going to be crazy when you grow out of this phase
>>714008716it's going to be crazy when you kill yourself for being a miserable tranny or /pol/tard troll
>>714008812I haven't played the Weird Route. At all.
>>714004712He's the Eggman and him and Sans are guaranteed to be plot relevant.
>>714008804Catti is still for Kriselle
>>714008827bahahahahah no fucking way
>>714008938not a general btw