i haven't played this game. should i play this game?
Yes, but play it blind.
Also the fanbase sucks ass, but you can still love the game. Learn the difference
>>714122547 (OP)Yes, they're good games
do you want to play deltarune?
play undertale first
(normal - pacifist - genocide, then look into FUN values/Gaster, or just install the mod that unlocks all of them)
do you not want to play deltarune next?
then don't bother with undertale. it's cute but nothing too special in big 2025
deltarune, however, is special
>>714122547 (OP)Just wait 10 years till Furry Fox actually finishes the game.
>>714122804You do not have to Genocide if you don't want to
I wouldn't
It's gay...
>>714122547 (OP)It has several things to enjoy even if you disagree with the game narrative
With the good gameplay and music it has, despite the lack of originality in a lot of things its a fun experience
It's just this generation of Homestuck. That is to say have more respect for yourself anon.
>>714123046clearly not, since I stayed the fuck around from HS and I love undertale/deltarune. 666 is hussie, 999 is Toby
>>714122991I sorta agree, but it also reveals some plot that's not in any other route. And Deltarune Chapter 1 baits you so much with tons of little things it basically assumes you've played all of Undertale.
The only two actual fights are also fun.
>>714122804>big 2025Okay name me some games that outshine undermeme from its release to today then
>>714122547 (OP)its garbage, genuinely one of the most overrated games of all time. People only like it because of mat pat game theory or because of the furry porn of this game.
Yes, it's great. People like it for pretty much the same reason they like Automata: OST and the game makes you emotional. I would recommend going for the pacifist run from the get go. I don't know about you, Op, but I couldn't be arsed to finish it 3 times for all the different endings.
>>714123774>furry porn Where would I find this so that I can report it to the authorities?
>>714124356doing genocide makes doing pacifist impossible
>Thread LOCKED
What the hell are these jannies even planning with this
>>714123774>People only like it because of mat pat game theorywho
>Thread locked
What does this accomplish?
>>714123046This shit has a charm to it despite its meta-humor, homesuck just sucked all around.
>>714124678OP here. Jannies are bullying me and Iโm not sure why.
NYOOOOOOOOO NYOOOOOOOOOOOOO NYOOOOOOOOOOOOO NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>714124678ive never seen them use it before the takedown and now i see it more than deletion
>>714122547 (OP)I've been debating that too. Seems fun but what's the point if the rest of the game isn't going to be out for another fucking decade
Ran is stinky.
Ceroba smell good
>>714124760>>714124742>>714124678Wonder if we're forcing the local John Morris into therapy with this shit. If so, good.
>>714124609>doing genocide makes doing pacifist impossiblewut
>>714124905Ran gives you prostate massages and rimjobs thoughever
>>714124950What does locked thread even do?
>>714124760Hiro threatened to slash their pay
>>714124678They gave someone a 3-day ban a couple days ago because he posted Gerson in a husbando thread. Mods are actually genuinely have a fucking BREAKDOWN over Deltarune.
>>714125012It makes true pacifist impossible because the ending image is replaced with a picture of all your friends with an x on their heads to remind you of your sins.
>>714125035The thread stays on the catalog but no one can reply to it.
Basically an extreme autosage.
>>714125097fuck. I wanted to do a genocide run first. or a "normal" run. I hate having to talk or do some action in every fuckin fight. Just let me kill shit toby it's a video game
>>714125065they always hand 3 day bans in those threads.
>>714125065Because you people will not SHUT UP ABOUT IT
YOU HAVE A FUCKING GENERAL ON /vg/ SO FUCKING GO THERE AND STOP SHITTING UP /v/ WITH THIS GARBAGE
>>714125065What the fuck is this, reddit?
You can get banned for having the wrong waifu now?
>>714125180Normal is completely fine, you have to go out of your way to do genocide anyways so play how you like.
>>714125213Apparently nobody else got banned. It was just the one guy.
>>>/trash/76046048>>>/trash/76046361
>>714125264>Shitting up /v/ with one thread about videogames
>>714125264no one wants to go to vg
>>714125180it's worth doing genocide in my opinion, it's just a slightly altered last scene implying a worse ending but who gives as shit
>>714125264BAAAAAASED AIGOD WOOOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN1SGS7N02U
>>714125264abib, you know sans is in smash, right?
deltarune officially meets the criteria of "cultural phenomenon"
>>714125237kek. but seriously i hate that. i'll just watch the other variations of the story on youtube I guess.
>>714125301oh good to know. I guess I'll spare one or two of them. But doesn't genocide have that scene that toby was trying to censor?
>>714125264Why is it that every other game on /v/ is allowed to have countless threads but it's suddenly a problem for Deltarune? Look how many Donkey Kong threads there are. How many Mario Kart threads.
>>714125264>STOP TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES ON THE VIDEO GAME BOARD AIEEEEEEEEE
>>714125283that wasn't already the case?
>>714125264you will never be a janny
F A G G O T
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>>714125264so true, everyone knows /v/ is for eceleb, steam charts, and twitter screenshot threads
Why is the milk so important to him?
>>714123046if this is trash what even is good? what DO you recommend for more "self-respecting" players?
>>714125264>stop shitting up /v/Why should people stop shitting in a toilet?
>>714125180you can still do normal, just make sure to do genocide after pacifist
To continue on the Chara thing
Chara really is not controlling Frisk, Chara is just watching you doing everything through Frisk's eyes. The only moment where Chara takes possession is the corrupted pacifist as you longer are here to control Frisk..
Chara even is disturbed if you do genocide a second time, saying they no longer understand you.
>mods start throwing a shitfit over a new game being discussed
>leads to an all-out spam war because the jannies just can't let things peter out naturally
>meanwhile the fucking AI general and twitter screencap threads are allowed to sit around and shit up the board for YEARS
>>714125264The troons really didn't like this
>>714125454Because they should use a diapey instead
Progressive videogames belong on /v/
>>714125389There's one fucking mario kart world thread.
>>714125375Wrong game, the censored scene is on deltarune and that route is completely different. But please go play the game and avoid getting spoilered
>>714122547 (OP)>Undertale threads survive.Yep, based.
Undertale's on sale for $2.50, playtime is about 5 hours. I played it the day it released because somebody on here told me to. It's got great music and fun writing. If you just want to get to Deltarune, if you want to get the best ending, just remember that there's a way to save everybody. After that it's up to you.
>>714125180Genocide was made for you. Don't bother with normal or pacifist, you aren't interesting enough to enjoy it. I am serious btw, do not do normal or pacifist, you will find them tedious.
>>714122547 (OP)THE ANCIENT TEXT FORETOLD
>>714125585wat? I've been talking about deltarune this whole time.
>>714125554We're not paying you, either
>>714125264Fuck your father fuck you nigga you're a PHONE
>>714125551One is saving western civilization, the other isn't. Learn the difference.
>>714125691I get my payment in seethe
>dude just go to /vg/ itโs for video games
/vg/:
>>714122547 (OP)yes, play it blind
only know you can finish the game without killing anybody, thats all the info you need
>>714125661Deltarune has no endings just routes. And up until now they're just 2 so go wild the spares are much easier anyways.
>>714125634>I'm more interesting because I have a pretentious opinion about a toyGood luck with that
>>714122547 (OP)can you include either /utgen/ or /drgen/ in the OP so it can actually be found when there is a thread up
>>714124678What the FUCK does locked even mean?
>>714125707Western civilization is when you ban people for not talking about AAA slop
>>714125043You can only divide 0 so many times, after all.
Meira balls in your mouth
>>714125583There's one deltarune thread
I noticed something *very* interesting on chapter 4, maybe it had signs earlier but IDK--
When you play the piano, the dialogue is "your hands are moving on their own" or something like that. Obviously, it's not that "my" hands are moving on their own, it's that Kris was moving *his* hands. So, this implies that whenever "you" appears in that sort of narration, it is indeed talking about you, the player. This throws every sort of "you feel" "you think" etc. narration into question, is that what Kris is really feeling, or is that just what the game (gaster?) wants us to think/feel?
>mfw watching my thread devolve like this
God /v/ is such a weird place.
>read last thread
>someone mindbroke the 2hu commietranny
YOU FOOLS
DON'T YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO US?
>>714124356You don't actually need to run the game 3 times. If you just do a pacifist ending you can reload your save and have access to the true pacifict ending, then you can do genocide after if you want. So you really play the game 2 times and experience an epilogue (if you do the true pacifist route). Plus the genocide run is both narratively and gameplay wise very different from a normal playthrough
The futa drought is unbearable.
>>714125828And? The claim was made that there were multiple mario kart world threads and there aren't.
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Chapter 4 made me realize enemy combos could be a lot better.
Then I remembered Ralsei made the EXACT SAME FUCKING POINT IN CHAPTER 1 I FUCKING HATE THIS GAME
ch6 weird route leak?
https://youtu.be/SSHbYP54oME
>>714125551Seriously, is it normal for the jannies to be this harsh over people discussing games on /v/? I know Expedition 33 released before Deltarune, and that still gets semi-regular threads.
>>714125542Chara does things on her own in genocide, too.
Hand the shota over and nothing bad will happen.
>>714125785 Anon clearly meant "you're not INTERESTED enough" as in he's not interested enough in doing the pacifist run to justify playing it. He just wants to play a mindless rpg and kill monsters because "hurr video game"
>>714125851I still wish that /indie/ was a board, it would probably be the only one Iโd use
>>714122547 (OP)Eh, if you feel like it's the kind of game you'd enjoy, I'd say go for it.
Maybe try the 2013 demo first, get a gist for the game's general mechanics and tone, and if you like what you see, maybe look into buying the game. It usually goes for just a few bucks when it's on sale, which it currently is on steam.
>>714125994>is it normal for the jannies to be this harsh over people discussing games on /v/?I remember it like it was yesterday...
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>>714125751>We can't go on /vg/ it's all schizos and autists!Your entire fanbase consists of autists, furfags, and schizos so I really don't understand what the problem is.
>>714125851It's fun
>>714125994there's always a FOTM thread up, undertale/deltarune generals are two threads for essentially the same game and purpose discussion-wise (see how this thread is titled undertale and the irrelevant OP question used to justify it not being a general thread was immediately discarded for deltarune discussion)
>>714125994toby fox didn't pay abib the CP tax so threads are kill on sight
>>714122547 (OP)You people are becoming as obnoxious as XIVfags and then you wonder why no one likes you
>>714125707what does this even mean
>>714126007Sorry, we're not cucks
>>714126125Youd cream and moan from my BWC, bitch ass nigga
This place sucks now, it was nice while it lasted. See you fags never. Your ship will never become anything more than a punchline in the end.
>>714126049They also blocked the pizza tower ones? Do they just hate pixel art indies?
>>714126004Does she? From my point of view Chara only comments a few things. But their role is mostly watching
It's probably why Flowey start to tweak the fuck out at the end, because I think a part of him realized that the person in control wasn't Chara (though ironically, Chara is the one who kills him)
>>714125994>Seriously, is it normal for the jannies to be this harsh over people discussing games on /v/?This shit happens at least once a year. Some janny gets unreasonably assmad at a game or a thread topic (i.e. husbnado threads) and invariably makes the board worse because it goes from "one thread topic that eventually dies naturally" to "dozens of threads being spammed out of spite full of users angry at the mods". It happened with Snoot Game, it happened with Lobotomy Corp, it happened with SCPSL, it's happened again and again and the mods will keep fucking doing it because the /v/ jannies are legitimately the worst admins of any major site in the world.
Every decent 4chan moderator isn't working on /v/.
>>714126007I will fight you to the death over these children.
>>714126007We only got lolis here.
Susie's tail?
Futa.
She also kidnaps human shotas
>>714126148It means Toby Fox is on the right side of history
>>714126091the mental gymnastics of you tranny jannies astounds me. One of the biggest game releases of the year, and you're deleting it on sight because people are talking about the game that came before it? Do you apply this logic to mass deleting horizon zero dawn threads as well? You fucking faggot. Thank god you all got doxxed in the hack, some schizo will hunt you down and that day can't come soon enough
>>714126245Yes. It's very clear if you actually play the game.
>>714126221cool, go and be a nigger somewhere else
>>714126049Shit, that was only two years ago, and yet I still remember the tranny jannies chimping out so hard over it, plus the "bigot tower" spammers.
>>714126125Who cares about being liked by the subhumans on this board?
>>714126091The only reason Deltarune anons on /v/ are doing this is because the mods won't let us just have one thread with "Deltarune" in the subject.
Just let discussion of the game naturally die out instead of trying to force it off the board. At this point, I feel like a lot of us are hanging around simply to spite the jannies.
Funny enough outside of the designated AI generals that get a free pass for some reason it seems like AI threads start getting deleted the moment the thread turns into shitting on Indians, really highlights the priorities of the staff
>>714126247Really like this artists mommy Frisk.
>>714126221and nothing of value was lost
>>714126316>One of the biggest game releases of the year
>>714126324then answer what dammit I don't wanna replay the full game again
>>714126268yeah, its easier to be a good writer when youre a leftist, you have more common sense
>>714126386So what you're saying is to make fun of Indians even more to make them seethe harder, right?
>>714126386if the jannies are trying to suppress jeet hate they're not doing a very good job lel
>>714126402Unironically yes. I don't know any other game this year that's generated this much devoted discussion.
>>714126316I don't get not paid, sorry. Deltarune Chapter 1 was initially released on October 31, 2018 and I have been witness to the general threads held in its name over and over again. Just stay in one containment thread for undytale / deltyrune
>>714126428you mean like allowing in everyone and being surprised when there's terrorism in your country, that common sense
>>714126402Please stop pretending to be retarded for 5 minutes in your shitty life.
>>714126049>>714126229The people screaming "shill" to every AAA thread might've been onto something all these years.
If you don't pay the tax, you get bent by the jannies.
>>714126374you can have a generic "Deltarune only in the OP" thread in /vg/, that's specifically made for this style of content and can serve as the discord server that this place does for you today.
>>714126402Yes you spiteful faggot
>>714126386You are now reminded that during the peak of janny meltdown a Deltarune thread managed to avoid their wrath because it used an AIslop image for the OP
>>714126584you larping as a janny is boring now, the moment has passed. fuck off
>>714126595>an indie dev getting these numbers>this is on PC alone
>>714126584If this is a discord server, I don't want to know what you consider the Stellar Blade and Dall-E threads to be.
>>714126595If we're going by this retarded measure of using Steam numbers then Stellar Blade would also be one of the biggest releases of the year, and that's just not true.
>CLOSED last thread (something ive never seen before)
>>>/vrpg/3794129
>>>/vrpg/3794130
holy FUARRRRK, its not the jannies... the MODS are taking a STAND against deltarune.
toby fox bros??? we must count our FUCKING days, im OUTTA HERE
I feel kind of bad for the theorists
Imagine Toby explicitly degrading you in game
Kek
>>714126423Chara walks over Papyrus puzzles.
Steps rudely on Monster Kid.
Makes a creepy face to Flowey.
All actions exclusive to Chara and genocide.
>>714122547 (OP)I liked Undertale, but Chapter 1 of Deltarune failed to grab me. Does it get more interesting later on? Haven't read much about it.
>>714125264You sound upset about something.
>>714126814secondaries are funny
I wonder how much of this is just proxy consolewars over Deltarune being a Switch 2 launch title
>>714126837The other Chapters after Chapter 1 have a massive leap in quality thanks to Toby having a team behind him. Chapter 2's also part of the demo, so I'd try that as well and see if it manages to grab you.
>>714126837Extremely. Pretty big consensus that Chapter 1 is the worst chapter.
>>714126837Chapter 1 is just the foundation. Give it another shot.
>>714126937Why would the snoys be slighted? Deltarune isn't a Switch Exclusive, it's available on all consoles.
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>>714126814>make schizo theory>toby SPECIFICALLY adds an entire BOSS FIGHT in honor of itthis is based
>that flavor textstop speedreading the game retard
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Kris is Caim
Susie is Angelus
Noelle is Furiae
Berdly is Inuart
Who else is missing?
>>714126837Yes! But if what you disliked is the humor/atmosphere, its more of the same
If what you disliked was the small scope or art, it gets so so much better
>>714125264Cry more, we will not discuss the AI, we will not discuss the AAA slop, we will not discuss gacha, we will not discuss gooner bullshit.
>>714125264Do mods actually consider this to be a respectable board where serious discussion thrives? Lol
>>714126992Switch 2 has exclusive content nobody else has though
>>714127021Who's the pedophile?
Who's Arioch?
Pretty sure mods closed last thread due to the 2hu spam
>>714126828no that's Frisk's acting on genocide, Chara is just the narration and the hits for 99999 damage
>>714122547 (OP)If you're considering playing it, then you're probably not someone who'll hate it, but I have seen exactly one group of people play it and hate it, and that's people who are kinda' cynical and groan at media that tries to make them cry with sappy backstories and stuff like that. If you're one of those people who roll their eyes when you hear the strings come in, then no, don't play it, it'll just annoy you.
Otherwise, I'd recommend it. But don't give Toby Fox money.
>>714127156Does Frisk still exist in genocide? I feels like Chara ends up nullifying him unless you abort it.
>>714127163the girl (male)
>>714127208>donโt give Toby Fox money Why not? Seems like a pretty cool guy who deserves riches and celebrity.
>>714126837it gets much better in chapter 2, chapter 1's boring as fuck
>>714126938>>714126960>>714126968>>714127049Well, I liked how Undertale judged your decisions and had different endings. Is there a similar thing going on in Deltarune, or is it just about the plot? Chapter 1 made it seem like your decisions didn't matter.
>>714127208Yeah
These games piss off people whose souls have died and rotten off
>>714126428the election tourists aren't gonna like this one
>>714127208>But don't give Toby Fox money.This
>>714127336It scratches a similar itch, yeah
>>714127220yeah, Frisk is the one doing genocide even, as well as the one selling the soul to Chara, (we) are whatever Frisk feels like doing, there are even times when Frisk rejects (our) commands, we don't really exist except for the ending of true pacifist presumably when Flowey tells us to fuck off and let them live their lives
>>714127156That happens ONLY in the route Chara narrates in first person. Put 2 and 2 together.
>NOOO DONT GIVE TOBY MONEY
Nice try, but I just wired another 10k to his checking account. He promised to rape noelle a second time, you're welcome.
>>714127242But he's already rich and a celebrity
>>714127450I'm not sure Frisk is entirely the player, especially as we ends up losing control of him at the end of pacifist
in fact, Chara only ends up possessing Frisk fully at the end of pacifist, because we are no longer there to control him
though unlike Kris, Frisk is a pretty passive dude who don't really care
>>714127336No. There's only one route in Chapter 2. Deltarune is very linear in comparison.
>>714127208I don't know how irony poisoned people enjoy life.
When they watch a movie or play a game, it's all complaints. "Oh this is such a trope, hah I can predict what will happen next, wow is that emotion? So cringe." It's mental illness, I really think so
>>714127336no, its a red herring
your decisions matter, but its also different from undertale
>>714127502Toby will get my money when he starts making ludokino
>>714125743I'm sorry that you went into debt, then.
>>714127336Deltarune's a lot more linear, but it has a different focus that I think you might find interesting. It's main draw is that you, the player, are a separate entity from the player character Kris.
>>714116931I can't find your stupid ass because of all the janniggery
https://files.catbox.moe/orng5z.mp4
>>714127450>>714127529That's because the player doesn't exist in Undertale's narrative outside of being the person playing the game. Truthfully in the narrative there's only Frisk and Chara, with one representing pacifist and the other genocide. That's all.
>>714122991honestly it was a lot funnier than I expected. Snowgrave is fucked, though
>>714127142Link last thread? I fell asleep
>>714127336>made it seem like your decisions didn't matter.we don't know yet theres very much some meta bullshit with some stuff that gets revealed in the game
>>714127142Where the fuck did they even come from
>>714127656Flowey IS aware of the player though. at least at the end. So is Chara
>>714127336>Chapter 1 made it seem like your decisions didn't matter.Whether your choices are going to matter is actually a massive theme of this game. The game is basically about fighting fate. It's definitely not telling you your choices don't matter to be boring.
Don't worry, there's definitely one big surprise to be discovered regarding the topic.
>>714127724>Flowey IS aware of the player though. at least at the end.Why then does he call the supposed "you" Chara?
>>714127590true
kris is kris and that's all that matters
i do think femkris is funnier though
>>714127656>Truthfully [lies]
>>714127641Seriously how did jannies manage to fuck a thread that was producing such soulful OC.
>>714127597With how many of you fags keep crying about deleted threads, I'm getting by just fine.
>>714127784Because he think you are Chara, when Chara in truth barely give a shit about him anymore
>>714127163REMINDER THAT KRISOUL IS ENDGAME
TRUST THE PLAN
>>714127723There's a discord.
>>714127723They are basically the same game
>>714127656there's a pretty good doc about it here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iWmA3hXjcTNZyVGAXhrcAGnwOVgwnfnmArfKTjNLiPo/
>>714127723There's some tenna avatarfag that keeps invading their /jp/ threads for /v/hu and quizzing them so my hypothesis is that they are raiding back out of spite
>>714123237eloisa if she was deer
>>714127902That sounds funny as shit. Can you see screenshots?
>>714127902>There's some tenna avatarfag that keeps invading their /jp/ threads for /v/hu and quizzing themi kneel
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>>714127902Aren't Toby and Zun friends?
>>714127790I like to imagine Kris has ONE hair that magically triggers that and if it gets cut the shadow is just gone
>>714127902>/jp/ threads for /v/huWhat an absurd concept.
>>714127861[Headcanon]. This is cope, nothing implies it isn't Chara.
>>714127884>Waandynoodles mentioned. >Guy behind Oblivion theory. Not reading, probably nu-fanon contrarian shit.
>>714127336Deltarune is has a lot more going on in its story and there's not just one main character. You're only one part of the story, Undertale was basically an experiment focused on you while Deltarune is a full-fledged RPG.
The game still keeps a meticulous attention to detail and there are many, many different ways that scenes can play out with characters reacting to many little things you do, but nothing you can do has led to major divergences in the story. The Prophecy refuses to change. There is only one ending ...?
>>714127021Titans and Spawns are the Angels from the last few missions
>>714127952 here
>>>/jp/49622568>>>/jp/49624818
>>714127902What the fuck is a /v/hu? And wasn't /jp/ created specifically as a containment board for Touhou?
Earnestly I think Chara is easier to understand than most people would assume (you have to consider the way that Toby expected you to piece shit together via multiple routes/playthroughs based on clues like what Floweyโs uninterrupted speech on Genocide, the โActivity Levelsโ when you clear a route for the first time, etc.) but honest to god with the writing improvements heโs made with Deltarune Iโd like to see him make another run at a more coherent Undertale remake/update
>>714128173>It's realMY KNEES
>>714128173MY FUARKING HERO
>>714127142The mods themselves are probably troonhou niggers.
>>714122547 (OP)I personally love the game, but I won't lie, waiting for the next chappy is fucking torture.
>>714127208Chapter 1 was definitely the weakest chapter, but it's also the introductionary phase were it eases you into the mechanics and characters. It goes balls to the walls during and after chapter 3.
>>714127902funniest thing is
the one spamming here is just mad he can't get a single answer right
the TennaGOD is just trying to teach them about stuff related to the games and characters, like the good old days of TV
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>>714128173Holy shit this is golden KEK
(Can't believe some anons there were so pissed by this they decided to raid /v/. It looks like everybody in those threads were having fun.)
>>714128227Imagine if the schizoposts about discord raiders with shitposting mafias were real and they used touhou as a guise to spam nonsense ritual posts on /v/. That was /v/hu.
>>714128108hey mister humanposter, mind sharing what's your Chara interpretation? as in her personality, how she viewed the Dreemurrs, etc
>>714122547 (OP)>last paid attention when it was just the SURVEY PROGRAM chapter 1 demo>there's now a 4th chapter and a 5th in the makingDo the 4 chapters currently out resemble a complete game? Is Toby doing the pateron jew thing of stringing out development as long as humanly possible?
>>714122547 (OP)Troonhou and Deltatroon belong with eachother,they should combine
>>714128231>Iโd like to see him make another run at a more coherent Undertale remake/updateHe won't go back and destroy the endless headcanons. He knows the vagueness gives him infinite discussions.
>>714128108 it's an analysis, everything is in-game. In fact it contradicts the fanon depiction of Frisk more than anything lol.
>>714128429I also don't think Toby thinks as highly of Undertale anymore, if you try to play the UT main theme on the piano in DR, Susie says "sounds like crap."
>>714122991I feel like people should know who Chara is and why she's important. It also gives you the best boss fight in the game. The nice thing about genocide is it's not very long except for that one fight
>>714128423chapter 1 alone is a full game
he's not trying to delay any chapter release but ch3 was on dev hell for quite a while and some stuff was cut in the process
>>714128428Deltahu, in which you get to rape and mindbreak Cirno.
>>714126428I would argue being a leftist is defined by being anti-common sense. It's all about suppressing or not having instincts (eg. disgust towards perversion, fear of outsiders, holding contradictory beliefs, cherishing hope and feelings over cold hard facts).
You could've said something else.
>>714128173Out of all possible gimmicks, that one is genuinely cute. Sure, there's a huge chance it will become annoying if the guy refuses to read the air and spams it all time but still, things could be a lot worse.
>>714128537It's very normal for creators to hate their early work
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>>714128371>like the good old days after 9/11
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>>714126370But anon you are the subhumans of this board
>>714128402Chara is a troubled kid that went to the mountain to kill herself. She probably loved the dreemurrs but I don't think it was necessarily familial love (plus I really like Chasriel as a ship). I do think Chara genuinely cared for the monsters, but her hatred for humanity was too strong and that's why the plan happened.
Chara is a mischievous kid that likes scaring Asriel and playing pranks. She is also a glutton and messy eater, once eating an entire pie with her hands.
The Chara we see in game is SOULLESS, like Flowey. She can't feel empathy for anyone anymore.
>>714128674*all their works
>>714128674It's not always the case, there's plenty of people who still love what they created
>>714128423It's about "2 and a half Undertales" long as it now stands, according to Toby Fox. I never actually played through Undertale myself, so I can't say how accurate this is, but I trust the dog.
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>>714128423DELTARUNE is a one-time purchase. Buying the game now gets you everything. Future chapters (5, 6 and 7) will be added as free updates when they're completed. Toby doesn't benefit at all from taking too long, he wants the game finished more than anybody.
Chapters 3 and 4 are longer than Chapters 1+2, the game already has roughly 20 hours of content for a casual player. Chapter 5 will be released next year.
>>714128428Nah, I'd rather troonhou burn in hell.
>>714125329>all topics should pertain to video games>Gerson is literally a video game character
>>714126370>replying to subhumans
>>714128470That's why I said nu-fanon. Nu-fanon is obsessed with being contrarian. 2016 fanon Frisk is more accurate than nu-fanon Frisk.
>>714128537I thought that was a joke or something,Ralsei reacts nicely to Asriel's themes
>>714128537I remember back when Toby says he was embarrassed about the Halloween Hack wondering if he would one day feel that about Undertale.
Playing Deltarune you can definitely tell that Toby might think Undertale was a bit too heavy handed.
>>714128537That's a joke.
>>714128173This is so fucking dumb but it's genuinely as if Tenna himself invaded /v/hu and that makes me laugh.
I'm conflicted
>>714128584>(eg. disgust towards perversion, fear of outsiders, holding contradictory beliefs, cherishing hope and feelings over cold hard facts).Outside of disgust towards perversion that just sounds like a /v/ caricature
>>714128849then again Ralsei also think Flowey's theme is "friendly"
>>714128849His Theme is going to remain one of Toby's best tunes honestly.
>>714128812that janny is probably still made about someone spreading his dox through a gerson pic
>>714128836idk, a lot of the conclusions that were there I ended up agreeing with and I hate the oblivion theory, it's important to come with an open mind imo
Remember when janny had a meltdown also during the Krusie tweet time and banned an anon for posting a Kriselle screencap?
I have no idea where the โooโ part of troon comes from
>>714128858>be a later Chapter>You finally get the chance to type in your own choices>A box opens where you can type what you want to say>Saying LOVE, too, is also an acronym gets you run over by the dog
>>714128934What's the tdlr? I vehemently disagree with takes such as the genocide actions being Frisk. It's obviously not true.
>>714128173Someone get that Tennaposter to come here. I want him to pester us with dumb trivia questions too.
>>714129009it harkens to a word like troop or goon (in the old sense of the word, not the modern one), i guess
>>714129004>tranny janny>loves yurishit shipReally makes you think, don't it.
>>714126837There are things about Chapter 1 that I like better than the other chapters, but on a technical level, it feels like a demo compared to what comes next. One thing I didn't like about Chapter 1 is you get the "go back and say goodbye to everyone" moment at the end of the game like you do in Undertale, but because it was so short I didn't feel like it was necessary and it felt pretty underwhelming. Chapter 2 then made me realize it was really wasn't necessary and 2-4 do something else instead which feels better.
Also, the thing about your decisions not mattering...I don't know about that. Chapter 2 does in fact introduce an alternative route, we just don't know if it'll effect the game's ending or not.
>>714129031We're all too invested in Deltarune for someone to pose a question that would successfully filter any of us. He'd have to ask questions about the history of the game's development or something.
>>714129009fyad on something awful, funnily enough
>>714128537If he thought Undertale was 'crap' he wouldn't be expanding on it and reusing all the same characters, themes and ideas...you're looking too deeply into a joke
>>714122547 (OP)Do you like Undertale
>YesThen, probably. Yeah.
>No/What's Undertale?Don't play it.
Can someone tell Grillby to go away ITโS TOO DAMN HOT AROUND HERE
>>714129164DR technically wasn't built as an expansion of UT, UT pretty much was a test run before doing DR because he thought he wasn't ready yet.
I think he does like the characters but he also would have done many things differently now.
Well, that and he's in his 30s now, even if he is riding his dream from 15 years ago, he must be very different than when he was in his 20s
>>714129004noelle yearns for the chair
>>714129232what does a being of living fire that doesn't burn everything around it even feel like
>>714129342He was born in it, molded by it, the being after time no longer felt the discomfort.
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Will DELTARUNE have its Deltarune moment?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CeYNJ-s0Kw
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>>714122547 (OP)Play Undertale. For Deltarune, wait another 5 years for him to actually finish it.
>>714128584you almost got it right, but rationality and instincts are opposites
>>714129004Poor kriselleanon catching strays
>>714125264>Video games? On MY /v/?!
Playing you know what for the first time, just beat chapter 1.
FUCK JEVIL.
I hate bullet hells bros, I suck ass at them.
>>714129413Probably near the middle of chapter 7. The moment of revelations is to occur as the rising action rises quickly, very near the climax. The "Deltarune" theme, whatever shape it takes, will most likely play as we (and more importantly, Susie) learn the true nature of the prophecy, and the true identities of the cage with human soul and parts, the girl with hope crossed on her heart, and the prince alone in deepest dark.
>>714129027Every action that you don't control is Frisk's own and no one else's, in TP and Geno we're forming Frisk into their own person. Also Frisk doesn't like soda and can be really mean and rude (if you kill every dog in snowdin you get the "*you just remembered something funny" line in the lab when interacting with dog food in genocide as well as neutral and IIRC Frisk can be a prick towards Snowdrake and tell him he has no friends and will die alone or something like that) and puts feelings over everything, so essentially like a 9 year old child. Frisk definitely wasn't some goody 2 shoes like in the old fanon animations thank God, the only one that got it right was Sans's Stronger than You because it was just Frisk and no Chara bs. I probably didn't do the doc justice though, so I really urge you to read it yourself.
>>714129413One of the best Undertale tracks.
>>714129701imagine susie sucking on noelle's toes haha
>>714129004It still feels so unreal the janny was actively posting while it happened, arguing with anons over suselle and pretending he was a faggoat poster while saying that anon was the AITemmie spammer
>>714129671You'll get through it, there aren't many fights as challenging as Jevil.
>>714129707 (me)
anyway I'm going to sleep now so bye
>>714129164If anything you'd stick with those characters precisely because you what to sort out shit that you decided was a mistake.
>everyone decided they found alphys annoying and called her worst character? let's keep her around and make a load of jokes at her expense, even finally give players a chance to kill a whole load of little alphys in a mini genocide rerun>decide people were holding toriel in too high a light? write a plot point demonstrating she can be a shitty mother at times>feel it's a shame that asgore is left as the "child killer" in undertale's plot? here's a new story where he has a chance to redeem himselfHell even Deltarune Sans feels like Toby is giving people a chance to feel good killing him in the genocide run.
>Oh my science the mods keeps deleting our heckin' threads
>300 replies
Why do /v/tards love to play the victim?
>>714129835Are you being retarded on purpose?
>>714129835Why are you on 4chan? That's the real question
I know people joke about Asgore's role in Undertale a lot but he's very interesting in how he's presented and its difficult to know how much of it is intentional lamp shading versus not very good writing.
Asgore killed those kids, man, and he was about to kill you. Like, he already did that shit. He murdered them. I know this at least permeates in the subconscious of the community, but like, it feels like more respect was lost for Toriel over the scene in Chapter 4 than Asgore's entire backstory in Undertale. People still root for the guy despite having the blood of children on his hands due to his entirely poor planning and negligence.
The more I think about it, the more incredibly likely it is that he's directly responsible for Dess and it will not be sugarcoated.
>>714129707Yeah, I already know all this because I played the games until I got every neutral ending and even beat every boss with no healing and base equipment. Goody two shoes Frisk interpretations are infinitely better than the Geno actions being Frisk, and I donโt need to read a doc that will tell me otherwise. Frisk is clearly intended to be the good kid and Chara the bad kid, that's why you learn about Frisk in pacifist while Chara in genocide. Undertale fans got lost in the sauce and missed the clear thematic mirrors in the narrative.
I will cry when Ralsei permanently dies and I will never forgive Toby Fox for inventing a scared child who had no childhood just to kill him
>>714124748deltarune fans hating homestuck is weird to me, it's literally the same type of humor
>>714129671Jevil is the second-hardest boss in the entire game so far, don't feel bad, you still beat him
>>714129804Good night, anon. I disagree with you but I hope you rest well.
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jobel is at the gerson fight
>>714129671You'll be fine, if anything be glad. The game rarely gives you battles worth thinking about.
>>714129953You mean... UT Asriel 2.0?
There are fates worse than death.
>>714128389>Imagine if the schizoposts about discord raiders with shitposting mafias were realThey literally are real. So real in fact that the mods will give you a three day vacation if you post screenshots of their discord servers.
>>714129890>>714129913>No rebuttal Thanks for proving my point
>>714129919My guess is that a lot of people still sees Asgore action, as messed up as they were, as him trying to work for the greater good.
He didn't wanted to go to war or kill more people, and he also feared monster kind would gets destroyed by humanity even with power. So he did what he thought was the best, even if it was cowardly.
Toriel in both UT and DR, even if her actions are much much smaller, felt more selfish to people. People will have an easier time forgiving someone who thought they were doing the best they could.
at least that's how I think some people see things. Not my opinion.
>>714124356>People like it for pretty much the same reason they like AutomataSo you're telling me Deltarune is a midwit game?
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>>714130029I've been using apple-scented shampoo for years. Would Susie like me?
>>714129919Asgore's choices in Undertale were understandable, if tragic. If anything, the fact that all 6 fallen humans happened to be small children is darkly comedic more than a poor mark against Asgore's character. Toriel's position of "you could have just gone outside of the barrier after 1" was retarded, too, since stockpiling enough power to 'guarantee' victory was a much, much smarter choice.
>>714130065what rebuttal, people are posting on the imageboard. what was your point? did you want it to be more dead?
>>714130157Yes.
>>714129953Anyone who unironically likes Ralsei is genuinely mentally ill.
>>714129004What was the screencap anyway to warrant such reaction?
>>714130029>noelle being a total vorefagI can see it.
>>714129939I should add I do agree Frisk isn't a perfect saint and the old fanon exaggerated it, but the genocide actions are clearly still supposed to be Chara.
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>>714129919>Asgore killed those kids>and he was about to kill you.Oh my gooooooooood!
>>714130219>Anyone who unironically likes Ralsei is genuinely mentally ill.Imagine harboring any ill-will for this creature
>>714129919Killing those children was more morally grey than the way Toriel has acted in Deltarune. I'm not even being slightly sarcastic.
>>714125264>NO PLEASE DONT TALK ABOUT VIDEO GAMES ON /v/ - Video Games
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>>714130231a true patrician
>>714130337The purest cinnamon bun
>>714125938maybe cause mario kart world sucks and theres nothing to talk about?
>>714129953Welcome to the "I can't believe a dumb goat ruined my life" club.
>>714130363how the fuck is neglect worse than murder
>>714130231Noelle is autistic enough you can project any fetish onto her
>>714129919Undertale Asgore is not Deltarune Asgore. Undertale Toriel is not Deltarune Toriel. People root for Deltarune Asgore because what we know about him is that he is a good dad and that he is desperately in love with his ex-wife, to the point that it is is a detriment to his case. He's a bit on the pathetic side, but he's hardly evil (so far). Deltarune Toriel, meanwhile, is built up to be a kind mother figure for Kris AND Susie, even if she is a little oblivious to Kris' distress. The reason the dance scene is so damning is because it shines a harsher light on her role as Kris' mother - inviting a strange man into their house and getting wasted all alone with him is a terrible, awful thing for a mother to do to her child. Toriel is not evil for this, but it is an incredibly disappointing thing to see, and she deserves any loss of respect that followed.
>>714130363The problem with Toriel is a lot of the judgement of her character boils down to information we just don't know.
We're basically Walt Jr. during seasons 3 and 4 of Breaking Bad.
>>714129919The only thing that keeps me from thinking Asgore directly caused Dess's disappearance is that there's no way Rudy would still be as chummy as he is with Asgore
>Okaerinasaimase, goshujinsama
>>714130573I wouldn't bother, that anon is delusional.
>>714129413probably when we finally learn Susie's backstory and we confirm if Lost Girl is Susie's theme or not
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>>714130337Yeah he's more forgettable than hateable
>>714130693This is Susie's theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkEhQ3qJubU
>TRVTH NVKE INCOMING
Dess (Knight) isn't actually the bad guy. She's just playing the bad guy for Kris' sake because we're trapped in his LARP session (The world is a darkworld)
>>714129919Not a single person in Hometown dislikes Asgore, Toriel just didn't want to be married to him anymore. If Asgore's responsible for Dess's disappearance, why would Rudy stay best friends with him, Carol employ him to be her maid, and Noelle never hint at it a single time to Kris?
In Undertale, it's different. Humans, after banishing all monsters to the underground, killed their beloved prince and they wanted revenge so he declared war. No one in Undertale except Toriel had a reason to be upset with him, because Toriel's a liberal woman and which she means she likes foreigners more than her own people. It's going to be the same thing in Deltarune. Asgore's going to do something that technically everyone wanted but it'll be morally questionable so he'll be the scapegoat and take the responsibility, while Toriel goes and fucks the least responsible person in town.
>watching some videos about what to get on each chapter out of curiosity
>didn't buy the B.ShotBowtie, so now I'm locked out of the Tension Bow
>highly considering replaying the entire game again
Why do I do this to myself?
>>714130685Where's my "would you like dinner, a bath, or me"?!
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You think FRIEND is going to be a main boss, a schizo boss, or a meme boss like Mike?
>>714130612This. Undertale versions of the characters are usually better than their Deltarune counterparts.
>>714130693But everyone and their mother associates Lost Girl with Dess.
>>714129964Part of it is the artstyle, the visual appeal of the characters, part of it is also the era too, and how people spammed the shit out of homestuck to the point of apathy.
>>714130991https://saveeditor.spamton.com/
>>714130991That's why you buy at least one of each item before moving onto the next chapter. But hey, better late than never.
>>714130824I like this but what the hell is she doing with the fish
>>714131094She's an edgy punk who smokes weed, she just hates cops
>>714130576She probably would sniff Susie's boots if she ever got the chance.
>>714129964deltarune doesn't feel anywhere near as meanspirited as homestuck was
>>714129964Hussie is better at writing comedy but toby has more sovl and generally tries to avoid hiding under several layers of irony.
>>714131129Let's be real for a second. The majority of anons would also be up for it.
>>714131123>kidnapped the police so you can larp fight in parking lots without someone calling themgiga based
>>714131129I mean I can't blame her
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>"Heh, Kris, your mom is such a slut... One time at a party, she got so drunk she blew literally every man she could get her big hands on! Whoo, man! Good times!"
>>714131185>Gaster: Do you want to see my pog collection?
>>714130337Ralsei is a Mary Sue ass character and his existence is OBNOXIOUS.
>Hides blatantly important info from you>Deceives Susie and Kris whenever possible to keep up the facade >Will IGNORE and LIE TO YOUR FACE about whatever strange shit goes on (Spamton Neo) >Constantly whines about his "muh prophecy", muh "I'M SO SAAAAAAAD, NO ONE LIKES MEEEEEE, PWEASE FEEL SOWWY FOR ME BUT I DESERVE IT THOUGH" >Then Toby has the audacity to have the game remind you almost whenever possible that he's the "sweetest, gooeist le hecking reddit wholesome character ever who can do no wrong" by other characters commenting on him directly or indirectly He makes me fucking annoyed. He's like a bad self insert from the 2000s western anime bubble. I'm almost convinced he's Toby's real self insert next to the dog with how fucking much this faggot gets praised and you can hardly ever do anything bad or say anything bad or deny anything to him. I genuinely CANNOT stand him. Fuck you if you like him, you're a goddamn sheep and probably have BPD.
>>714129953>>714130337I don't trust him
What is he telling Kris that i can't know?
Funny how out of the whole party (You) are probably the only one who doesn't know the end of the prophecy, with kris probably getting to know it through the knight or something.
>>714130693My money is on it being the theme for both Susie and Dess, Noelle has already drawn similarities between them.
Doesn't matter anyway since it's actually the Nightmare Knight leitmotif. https://files.catbox.moe/juavnt.mp4
>>714131272>"Yeah Kris she was a whore with a capital H! Do you know what a butt chug is Kris? No? Well one time I saw your mother butt chug a whole keg, before that I only saw a pledge take six! Anyways she went ballistic, stripped down to her skivvies and sprinted out on the campus. Once she started streaking campus police couldn't stop her so they had to call the REAL cops... Anyways, that's how she met your father!"
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>>714130769fairly certain that is gersons theme also lol jannies are so upset we're talking about videogames
>>714130573Murder on behalf of your nation state vs neglecting your child for fun. Needs of the many vs needs of the few; needs of the child vs needs to treat Asgore like shit and spread your legs for the deadbeat who moved into town yesterday
>>714131339>Anyways, that's how she met your father!LMAO
>>714130693Susie already has a theme.
https://youtu.be/cGuDpoJNImA?si=WNZAyhxc7hGmok3I
She will get Megalovania, though.
https://youtu.be/J0m7UC6Ld8w?si=2Qh3qviHl3biO1kq
>>714131381i hope they double his salary for all that hard work!
Ralsei isn't actually telling Kris anything if you go watch Susie. He says "So that's why, Kris" in ch1 because you both just learned why Lancer ran away and imprisoned you. Every scene after that is optional and Ralsei does not demonstrate awareness in the alternate scenes that he is "speaking to the player" instead of Kris.
>>714131482its prolly one guy whos just upset he got spoiled or something
>>714131471>She will get Megalovania, though.I fucking hope not.
>>714130612>inviting a strange man into their house and getting wasted all alone with him is a terrible, awful thing for a mother to do to her child.Yeah because god forbid a divorced parent actually try to move on and see new people
>>714131482Do they realise that doing this shit creates ban evaders? A whole new generation of shitposters. All so that they could feel powerful for about 4 seconds while the board sinks further beneath the bog of off topic trash
>>714131094>Knight takes her to an empty thunderdome dark world She DID say she was bored...
>>714131381In response to that post, to be honest Toby just isn't super consistent on "you" referring to (You) vs it referring to Kris
How long before Toriel starts using drugs?
>>714131471i am betting on vs. susie + wise words
>>714131536>Every scene after that is optionalBecause you catch on
Also i'm pretty sure that's another one of those scenes in chapter 2 where you see Noelle rescuing Susie and he says the same thing about "so that's why..."
>does not demonstrate awareness in the alternate scenes that he is "speaking to the player"It's the most obvious thing in the world when he's insisting on you thinking of Susie in chapter 3 and 4 and it's obvious he's specifically trying to do the same trick that worked in chapter 1 and 2
>>714129919It is very implied that Dess' disappearance was what caused Asgore to leave the police and Toriel to divorce him. If you pay attention to Tenna's flashback when the Dreemurs and the Holidays are gathered together, the first one to disappear is Dess, followed by Asgore, but considering both Rudy and Carol are still in friendly terms with him, they surely realized that it wasn't truly his fault, but he most likely still took the blame of it even if it meant ruining his marriage. You could definitely call Undertale Asgore a flawed leader driven by emotion, but Deltarune Asgore is a great dad, a great friend and shines with hope and optimism that he will be able to reconquer Toriel before Asriel comes back, and added to that the fact that he will be a pivotal character in Chapter 5, since it's more than likely that the next Dark World will be in his shop and he carries the last Shadow Crystal.
On the other hand, Toriel is not a good character in Deltarune, she might be a very kind woman and mother, but the way she treats Asgore borders on disgusting while she's constantly avoiding him, and then her cancelling choir practice without even telling Kris, going to hang out with Sans and then not caring that she was piss drunk by the time Kris and Susie arrived really hurt her image. You could even see how both Kris and Susie turned their heads away awkwardly, and even after she leaves, Kris still doesn't want to look at her, which was fair after all the shit they went through at the church, they only wanted to rest yet those two kept partying the whole night.
>>714131696>Bunker arena tournament arc with prizes
>>714131702>referring to (You) vs it referring to KrisI think I know when I am being addressed.
>>714131308Everything this anon has said is correct.
I still want to fuck him though.
>>714131779>>714131696M.C. Gaster is my favorite thing from chapter 3
>>714131723>implying she isn't already into chem sex
>>714131536>"So that's why, Kris" in ch1 because you both just learned why Lancer ran away and imprisoned you.That was hardly difficult to figure out. Also doesn't explain why he also says that during chapter 2.
It's also kind of planning for failure to assume the story is going to be boring.
Can't wait for the fucking meltdown when it's revealed that Asgore was not at fault for the divorce and it was 100% toriel
>>714131723Sans already got her hooked on meth.
>>714131846you know shit's getting good when the mysterious meta monster gets into it
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>>714131779>VS King&Queen>VS Seam&Jevil>VS Spamton&Tenna>VS Gerson&Dess>VS FRIEND&Gaster
>>714131748>>714131891it's the most obvious thing in the world that's just a running joke with no deeper meaning
>It's also kind of planning for failure to assume the story is going to be boring.you're the ones who create stupid headcanons and disappoint yourselves after a new chapter releases
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>>714131926What's the deal with this nigger?
how is she so fucking smug?
>>714131918THE FIELD OF PINK AND GOLD WILL BURN WITH [DETERMINATION]
If the bunker is gaster's spot, what is the knight doing there?
If the bunker is the knight's spot, what is gaster doing there?
>>714131308>I'm almost convinced he's Toby's real self insertOkay so we have Gaster, Kris, the dog, Noelle, Alphys, Spamton, and now Ralsei?
>>714131918Ohhhh i'm going to slutpost so hard.
>>714132001he's the diaps guy
he's gonna make toriel wear a diaper
>>714131308I know you're baiting but you CAN treat Ralsei like shit quite often. It's deliberate and I think a set-up because he will betray you late in the game, so when you reset you will hate him
>>714131987would be too fucking PEAK
>>714132016We don't know if Gaster is there. All we know is that garbage sound plays there
>>714131471That Megalovania is okay but I hope she doesn't, that would be lame.
That said, one of the comments mentioned a fight against Susie being hard because of Kris fighting hard to stop the Soul, and now I'm heartbroken at the thought of Kris potentially killing his Susie.
>>714132062Why does everyone hate (Me)?
Am i gonna have to face the entire world because appaaarrently i'm the bad guy?
>>714131998Theory crafting is fun, anon. Receptions been higher and higher with each chapter released, despite 95% of theories being wrong. You're also retarded if you think woody tards or any equivalent are actually upset and seething that their theory was wrong, it's called being goofy you fucking nigger.
>>714131987>Gaster is a secret boss>But you need every eggWould make me fucking seethe if I got punished for not looking up the eggs online
>>714131853>>714131926Toriel's so good at throwing bottles. Just like her son.
>>714131471A song incorporating Megalovania would be perfect if you fight Gaster or something
>>714131918Iโm an Asgore truther, heโs a good boy that dindu nuffin
>>714132016theyre working together with Kris so the story happens
>>714131998>you're the ones who create stupid headcanons and disappoint yourselves after a new chapter releasesSo far people assuming sketchy shit is going on have been proven to be very much at home.
>>714132083Where's my FUARKING hero BERDLY?
>>714131536Ralsei is absolutely aware about the soul and Kris being different entities. The only reason why Kris can seal the fountains is because the soul is possessing him, which is why from the very beginning he tells Susie that only Kris can seal them. Remember that there's also Chapter 4, he tells (You) to see what Susie is doing so he can leave and scout for more prophecy windows because he knows that Kris also knows that Susie must not find out at any cost.
Also something very important to mention, after she sees the final prophecy, Kris kneels down to hug Ralsei by himself, and you can see Kris shedding some tears to when doing so. They have both been fully aware that Susie will die from the beginning, that's why Kris is so protective towards Susie.
>>714132153i'd kinda like something like that, as in you don't HAVE to win the tournament to continue like in Star Ocean
I really hope we don't fight gaster
>>714132217in the fridge.
>>714131918>>714132184The only way Asgore gets any dignity is if he has a sacrificial death in Ch5.
So long as he lives, it'll be humiliation after humiliation.
>>714131887This is fine because Noelle is clearly a white girl, so she'll be fucking the dog
>>714131918What happens if it turns out Toriel was the problem but she ends up regretting it? Should she be given a second chance? Or should she lie on her bed of bullshit and AIDS?
I dont need a Gaster fight but if we never see him Id be a little disappointed ngl
>>714131998Ralsei is so obviously trying to get our attention off him and Kris it hurts to see you think otherwise
Do you think Ralsei isn't hiding things from (you)
>>714132231definitely not directly but some kind of avatar, FRIEND also seems too important for a tourney arc
>>714132062Not him but treating him like shit is the best part of the game. That fucking faggot gets his book thrown away, his dummy smashed, his ass ignored and told to keep smiling.
It wasn't my fucking piano playing and I didn't fucking ask him. I don't need validation for Kris being so autistic I can't even play the piano myself until he forces a fail. An infinity of misery upon both Ralsei and Kris, I am all in on Snowgrave. The doe was the first step.
>>714131308itโs amazing how every character is apparently a mary sue except susie somehow
>>714132189I just can't see how or why gaster would be working together with the knight
He seems excited by us getting close to beating the knight and it seems the soul that was meant to be placed in the vessel by gaster was taken and put into kris by someone, presumably the knight or someone related to the knight
Unless the shelter was gaster's spot and the knight gang stole it together with the soul?
What would be the Deltarune songtrack for how your weekend went?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2B5F8skpGE
>>714132181>fight GasterI really really REALLY hate the idea of an actual "Gaster" fight with bullets. And not just because it's shark jumping and has been tainted by Wing Gaster the Royal Scientist tier AUtism, but because it defeats the purpose of him being outside the game world. (You) dont fight him just like (You) don't talk to the characters in a book. He's outside if your scope of interaction.
The true final boss should, through some novel gameplay mechanic, be against yourself
>>714132321>An infinity of misery upon both Ralsei and KrisAnd a lesser amount of misery on Susie for being a stupid fate breaker and being against me completing MY story
>>714132231gaster showing up within the game in any form would feel off ngl
>talks to Noelle for 30 seconds and gets a big dumb grin and promises to tell Kris later what she said
>Carol literally calls Kris at 2am to make sure heโs taking Noelle to the festival due to how excited Noelle is
How horny is that doe for kris cock?
>>714132153You can just load your chapter save and get the eggs. If you have a save file with the completed chapters you're not required to do an entire playthrough to get the egg. You just go and get it and then beat the end of the chapter again, since all the eggs require is knowing where the secret room is.
>>714132273>Should she be given a second chance?It's hard to say. We'll see.
>>714131308>Susie is a mary sue>Ralsei is a mary sueHow long until someone calls Kris a mary sue?
>>714132348true, to add to your point I think the Man Behind The Tree isnt Gaster
in the ps5 version you get achievements, and they are very clearly gaster talking to you
if you finish a chapter WITHOUT collecting the egg you get an achievement "FINISHED WITHOUT ISSUE"
but if you collect the egg in a chapter you dont get this achievement
I think FRIEND is Gaster's foil
>>714132453fuck that would've been nice to know
Now i'm gonna have to replay the entire fucking game because i missed the egg in chapter 1 and erased my save
>>714132421That as well, but less.
The only reason it is not MY DELTARUNE as well is because Gaster wants it. Fine, but I am fucking Proceeding no matter how autistic this scumbag fucking useless replacement for My Vessel is, or his friend. I like Susie a little more as she's doing her thing, but she didn't ask for any of this either. I didn't ask for this, so I can empathize with her being doomed a little, being doomed myself to have to put up with this endless retardation and backstabbing.
If only she'd join us for the end. Maybe as I wrangle shit off the fucking rails she can tag along.
>>714132513We're all Mary SOULs
>>714132536Just wait for the new chapter to release and then replay the game then. I replay it whenever a new chapter drops and it makes me enjoy the earlier chapters even more since i find more dialogue. Also helps me enter the new content without forgetting half the story
>>714131918it's becoming more and more likely
imagine if the reason toriel was pissed with asgore trying to find dess was because she was involved in her disappearance and was trying to stop him from digging up something that implicated her
>>714132453If I've played to chapter 4, can I still just go to like chapter 2 etc and get the egg, beat the boss, and be good? Or do I then need to restart all of chapter 3 etc etc?
>>714132536time to use the Spamton Save Editor
Noelle belongs to Asgore.
>>714132530>I think FRIEND is Gaster's foil>Gaster is outside of the game world by going UP in meta layers>FRIEND is very much inside the game world, but DOWN in meta layers (only interact with FRIENDs in the mantel fight inside the game within a game)
If there's one moment of fanservice that i want in future chapters is getting the vessel i created and finally getting off Kris
It would be kind of interesting if you had to fight your soulless vessel as Kris and you have Kris trying to wrangle you to attack the vessel while you try to make Kris lose
>>714132670>see you guys in the fountain later>I'll do that cool ass star attack again
>>714132670>black coffeehehe
>>714132731Nah it saves your egg progess per chapter, same with the shards. I could be wrong but it should just work
>>714132767now youre talking
also this is full autism but... there is the annoying dog, who is god
and then there is the friendly cat... satan :)
What would french kissing Ralsei taste like?
Kris x Vessel hot gay sex when
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>>714131308This might hit better if you knew what a Mary Sue was, but yes he's written to either blow smoke up your ass successfully with his sweet talking and submissiveness, or you completely hate his guts because his entire life is a fabrication and not even he knows how to feel about it at the end of the day. The more you actually care about the story, the less likely you are to accept his wishy washy bullshit, so that just means you're not a complete furfag that's blinded by goat lust.
>>714132708...huh. That would make a lot of shit make sense. Her shitty attitude towards Asgore despite the fact that everyone in town likes him, her more prominent alcoholism, her oddly ignorant attitude towards a lot of Kris' weirder actions and things in his room...and it'd honestly be kind of tragic if she's sabotaging her life out of guilt.
The problem with your "Ralsei is evil / disingenuous / has a bad reason for doing anything" theories is that it cannot work narratively, because too much of the fanbase will be like "Okay my fluffy boy :D Let's turn on the genocide Omni-Rape machine together pookie XD"
>>714132851>A Cat Proceeds (Me/Susie/Snowgrave)>A Dog Obeys (Kris/Ralsie/Prophecy)The cat vs dog theme isn't that autistic compared to shit like knight fetus theory
>>714132513>>714132337Susie isn't a Mary Sue because some characters actually dislike her and have prejudice against her. She's a main character we don't play as.
>>714128858this is why undertale was given to the pope and not deltarune, undertales message is so everpresent it is core to the games identity and mechanics, whereas deltarune is very unfocused in general and is more about characters and their arcs. The chapter release format makes it very much like a TV show with episodes rather than a single flowing narrative
>>714133036is this a line from somewhere? Im on full image_friend autism rn
>>714133036I don't get it
>>714133042>because some characters actually dislike herYeah, an objectively evil character.
Everybody good likes her.
>>714133042Catti basically solidifies that the characters that dislike Susie are meant to be gagshit characters that are automatically in the wrong
>>714132840Nifty. I'm seeing that the spamton save editor doesnt let you edit chapter 3 progress on a chapter 4 save which is odd
>>714133085It's fucking Bioshock, dude. "A man chooses, a slave obeys".
>>714133085It's a play on Bioshock line
>A man chooses, a slave obeys>>714133103The dog (toby) has a story with "one ending....?" that Ralsei and Kris appear to be in cahoots about following. FRIEND and his buddies (Ramb/Schizos) want to empower (You) with FREEDOM to break the narrative
Toby is reading my theories and messing with them on purpose
I know it
>>714133180Catti's not evil...
I think...
>>714127074we will not discuss anything
>>714132452Huh, never considered that kind of context
Back during chapter 2 discussions, people thought snowgrave made Noelle more assertive and she outright confronted Susie about her feelings and they fucked, which would explain the dumb grin and unwillingness to mention it to ralsei
This makes more sense, however, as much as I liked the idea of Susie being proud enough of her sexual escapades to clue kris in
>>714133243Snowgrave is the route where you follow the prophecy though
>>714133330>they fuckedaren't these characters like children that attend school
>>714133397yeah teenagers have sex
>>714133256are you going to take psychotropics and astrally project yourself into tobert's head to establish some boundaries in retaliation? If so, be careful - that one anon overdid it a bit with david lynch and fucking killed him
>>714133371>not actually playing snowgrave to completion they literally tell you its NOT the prophecy.
>>714133193Iโd actually argue the scene with Snowy and Monster Kid at the bunker actually demonstrated that first
>>714133371no, the prophecy says
>"the queen's chariot cannot be stopped"and snowgrave is the only time where queen's car DELIBERATELY stops
A reminder.
Fuck Kris. Fuck Ralsei. Fuck the Knight. Fuck not Snowgraving Noelle. Fuck the Festival. Fuck recruiting people, fuck Tenna, fuck the Queen, double fuck the King.
Susie and Gerson only had the power to break the fucking face shield due to YOUR SOUL empowering them. The Dark was only braced back by YOUR SOUL. No fountain is ever fucking sealed without YOUR SOUL. Its only by your acts that you achieve Freedom. Its only by your acts you even try and reach HEAVEN. Its only by forcing things that shit gets done. Its only with your help Susie even manages to beat Gerson, or his statue. Infinite pain to Kris and Ralsei. Fuck em all.
>>714133462shrug shrug didnt get the time to finish chapter 4 on weird route yet shrug shrug
>>714133397She seemed interested enough in the "How to Draw Dragons" book with the scantily clad dragon on the cover
>>714132897>>714132513>>714132337>character gets called a mary sue >retards go "nuh uh, that's not a REAL mary sue! :^)" with no argument Every time.
>>714133517Why is that book in the hallway drawer that Toriel could easily find?
>>714133482I don't think you're being ironic but this but unironically
>>714133482when does he tell the knight to wrap it up
but also yeah idk what krtis's deal is i get that he doesnt like being a puppet but we the player are actively going in the same thing because that's interesting to us too why cant he just cooperate
>>714133482seriously. fuck that guy.
>>714133560Don't mass quote me when you didn't even read my explanation agreeing with your main point, you illiterate niglet.
Why does Susie only see THE HEART when we kill the Titan?
Wasn't she paying attention when I was sealing up fountains?
>>714133675i think she saw it before but only mentioned it now
>>714133482I think "having the soul doing things and controlling Kris is actually a good thing" and "Kris is a victim of a situation beyond their control and snowgrave is a fucked up thing that also shows an evil perspective to the soul's hunger" are statements that can coexist
>>714133734Susie's eventual meltdown when (You) reveal yourself will be insane
>>714133397>>714133429I thought they were of that age, but Kris describing the weed in Dess's room as "strange plants" and in general seeing the divide between the way her and Noelle's room looked like made me realize all the protagonists are like 2 or 3 years younger than I imagined
>>714133575I'm being sincere. Fuck Kris, this autism comes straight from the tap.
>>714133632He signals and coughs for the Knight to wrap if up if you no damage on the special hit. Betraying cuntfuck.
>>714133667Mega fuck him. I hate this piece of shit.
Even though there probably won't be an explanation to that i'm still wondering how do other humans live in relation to Kris
Do they have souls and Kris's soul was just removed to accomodate us? Are humans soulless? Do humans have souls but a different type from the one (You) control?
>>714125264That's because the new chapters just came out and people are still discovering new shit.
>>714133632>when does he tell the knight to wrap it upIf you no-hit the Knight, Kris coughs at the Knight to signal the end of the fight. Fans are interpreting that as telling the Knight to wrap things up, either because there's a chance we could actually dab on them 4 chapters early and/or because Kris sees Undyne off in the distance.
>>714133675Seeing Kris described as "The Cage With Human Soul And Parts" is starting to get her to question what exactly the soul is capable of instead of just taking for granting that it's Kris'.
>>714133482Yeah, try dunking your own soul into a titan with your twig legs, dipshit.
>>714133798>He signals and coughs for the Knight to wrap if up if you no damage on the special hit. Betraying cuntfuck.oh forreal? is there a video of this I wanna see. what a retard
Kris will get all the benefits of our top tier charisma with Susie and Noelle will bend over to Vessel cock
>>714122610>thread reaches bump limit despite being lockedI knew this board was a tranny board.
>>714133882If i had my own vessel i wouldn't even need to enter the titan's anus
>>714133798Youโd be a perfect fit for a /vg/ gimmickfag desu
>>714133785They are all, at the very least, 16 years old considering Catti and Berdly work part-time jobs.
>>714133929I don't know WHY Kris is so mad.
I'm setting him up with Susie.
I get Noelle.
I'm a good wingman.
>He just wants to protect his childhood friendHey, I'm serious about Noelle. I'm willing to put a ring on that girl.
>>714133882Uhuh, sure, let me just OH WAIT nobody else could fucking seal shit anyways without YOUR SOUL, kickass dunk or not. Amazing. Also don't forget even empowering Susies rude buster enough to even break the face. Fucking SOULlets pretending they're players.
>>714133921Yeah, you can check it here
>https://deltarune.fandom.com/wiki/Roaring_Knight>Kris coughed. [If any Lightners receive no damage taken after the Knight uses the final attack]Fucker's playing both teams.
>>714134035That's not the insult you think it is given I'm too autistic to care.
>>714133882Susie did it, Kris just stood there.
Can't wait to possess Susie in Ch7, me and her are going to make a great team.
>make a Vessel just for myself that I give gifts to and might even LOVE
>get forcibly shoved into an edgy little shit that is just straight up doing suspicious shit
Bro it's not my fault if I act out a little bit.
The deer will freeze the world.
>>714134084We don't know the labor laws of Deltarune's world, maybe they can start younger
Ehh, where is GRRM when you need him?
my least favorite archetype of poster is
>guy triggered by offsite fanart/drama and uses 4chan as a venting ground with no context
>>714134180I wonder if the things you picked in the vessel creation will be significant in the future
>>714134123>I'm setting him up with Susie.>I get Noelle.See, you get it.
>>714134171Well that's just breaking the bro code.
Maybe I should just possess Berdly instead. He probably knows the bro code.
>>714134239The game no longer saves the vessel so no
I WANT MY VESSEL BACK, KRIS SUCKS
WHO HAS IT?
DESS? GASTER? GIVE IT BACK YOU FUCKS
>>714134293My little boy! He loved SOFT food! I whispered HOPE in his ear!
He's GONE!?
>>714134293You can't just post this without proof
It would break our hearts
>>714134198How can I be better?
>>714134293I thought it kept that info, because the blazer kris wears for church is the same thing I gave my vessel
was disappointed to see it is the same for everyone
>>714134380>>714134473>>714134552He's a liar. This is a chapter 4 save and our vessel is just fine
>>714134293Snowgrave is now my canon route.
>>714134132congratulations anon, you just discovered that in order for the soul to be useful, you need other people to make use of it. you're the kind of retarded faggot that would die in a desert with water in his canteen.
>>714134619The Soul is what even allowed anything to happen to that point. The Soul defended people, banished the dark with Jackington, eliminated the threats with the Titan, empowered their busters, defended Susie so she could even get to the end, likely made her win versus Gerson to begin with. And it sealed 3 fountains before chapter 4 and they sure as shit weren't sealing the fourth without Your Soul.
I'm not stupid or a moron, the Soul has been useful before anyone else made use of it. People just give too much credit to everyone else when its Your Soul doing the vast majority of the heavy lifting and actually getting shit done in a decent manner. The desert wouldn't be beatable without the Soul, everyone else squeezes it for water when they're at the desert.
>>714135589Tasque Manager? Is that you?
Guy who made the game stole everyone's money and he's nowhere to be seen. The game's a scam that will never be finished
>>714135835But enough about Hussie.
>>714135835Buddy, the Star citizen thread is two blocks down.
the more i see of this game the more it looks like kingdom hearts
The death of this thread is nigh... As a final message, I would just like to say
Toby Fox can't code for shit. I didn't know it was possible to make a game that could rival yandere simulator in fucking GAME MAKER, but Toby Fox managed it. Chapter 3 and 4 took four years because he had to relearn how to write an if statement every fucking day. For the love of god hire a new programmer Toby I beg you