Thread 718739864

How is the average gamer supposed to keep up with this speed?

They keep up by switching to hero mode of course. Only the gaming elite will be able to handle the highest difficulty.

>>718739864 (OP)
can't wait for the 4/10 review from some fromdrone

>>718740181
>one hit takes off 50% health

How the fuck am I supposed to beat this game?

i'm seeing a red dot on the enemies
did they give the game a lock on feature?

>>718740306
Kek, a lot of these games journalists will expose themselves.

>>718740308
play on easy mode

>>718737325
kys nigga

>>718740308
See the part where the enemy hits him? A real ninja wouldn't let that happen.

>>718740492
>Uses his hammer for a powered up jump
Yakumo is entering based status.

>>718740389
My biggest gaming regret was having to turn Razors Edge down to easy for Ayane's alchemist fight.

>>718740842
>alchemist fight
fuck these guys and their pussy magic shield

>>718740181
Why does NG4 MN look to be as hard as NG2 Acolyte lmao

>>718741356
The NG2 schizo has already arrived.

at least it's already better than NG3
>inb4 ryu weapons as dlc
better than re-releasing the game

>>718740181
>Sigma 2 level of "difficulty" (tedium)
Great.

>>718741705
Maybe Hello Kitty is more your speed kiddo. Leave the death defying adrenaline pumping all or nothing non stop action to the master ninjas.

>>718741705
skill issue

>>718742047
>>718742130
I beat Sigma 2 and 2 Black on Master Ninja though. They're not difficult, just tedious. Fewer enemies that deal more damage and take longer to kill isn't fun.

>>718742331
Sounds like you want to play Musou games instead.

>>718742428
I didn't know Ninja Gaiden II was a Musou this whole time. You learn something new every day.

>>718742331
Yeah enemies that deal no damage are way harder I agree.
>and take longer to kill
?

>>718742527
Can damn well feel like it with charged Y

I've still yet to see a genuine criticism of this game's combat and why I'm supposed to hate it.

>>718739864 (OP)
practice

Never played a NG game. Does the game have any kind of grading for performance or is it just about getting to the end alive?

>>718739864 (OP)
Spam and guess that's it.

M-MASAKA! K-KONO SPEEDO.

>>718742812
Very low enemy aggression even on MN, player tools are too strong especially the parry, small enemy counts, way too large arenas, weapon switching, enemies have too much health, animations are lackluster compared to NG2, tons of magnetism, etc.

>>718742812
The bosses generally suck and its generally centralized around a couple of strong tools unless you have GIGA grinded the game.

>>718742895
You are technically graded for performance but there isn't a ton of attention drawn to it like Devil May Cry and it's mostly just about how effective you were in getting out alive.

>>718742714
Enemies deal less damage in II because there's a lot more of them. Having that amount of enemies dealing Sigma 2 levels of damage would be very unbalanced. Sigma 2 enemies also have more health and lower delimb rates due to the decreased amount of enemies, so yes, they take longer to kill.

>>718743038
I don't know how to break this to you but this isn't a ninja gaiden 2 thread

>>718742732
You can also abuse UTs in Sigma 2.

>>718739864 (OP)
this is the best webm I've seen so far, actually feels like ninja gaiden

>>718743231
Ryu lost a ton of health from a single hit just like Sigma 2. I was making a comparison.

>>718739864 (OP)
Stop shill themis goyslop of a game
Both nioh3 and ng4 gonna flop hard but one thing i don't understand why microsoft care so much about these literal who game

>>718743280
Fuck off retard
This looks nothing like ninja gaiden

>>718739864 (OP)
Visual noise is the difficulty.

>>718742947
>The bosses suck
Still better from ng trilogy

>>718739864 (OP)
>blood decals disappearing
I won't be playing. I won't even have to look in the direction of this game

>>718743280
>perfect dodge slow down to cinematic attack
>actually feels like ninja gaiden

>>718743468
I meant enemy aggression because the guy plays like a retard

>>718743404
>t. rollslop drone

>>718743347
Yeah that's a part of the difficulty. Thing is Ninja Gaiden 4 isn't balanced like Sigma 2. Sigma 2 is balanced like shit because it's a shoddy patch up job on a game that wasn't very well refined to begin with. Enemies in 4 are already way more dynamic and aggressive compared to 2 so there's less need to flood the screen with them.

>>718743612
>the 2 most well developed NG females will be released in the same year.

>>718743404
>t. Rollkino chad

Never liked the 'hit one enemy hundreds of times with dozens of ridiculous combos' genre of games. Does this really appeal to people?

>>718743581
No they aren’t lmao

>>718740181
what in the fuck is that tracking and magnetism?

>>718743732
Too bad they're releasing the game unfinished and disguising the content that should've been in the game from the start as DLC. Modern gaming is great.

>>718739864 (OP)
I want this to be good but I've only ever played Ninja Gaiden on Xbox (NOT Black), and I feel like I have to play at least some version of 2 before I play this.

>>718744310
iirc the only major dlcs we're gonna get is
>ryu weapons
>two masters "gameplay" dlc
not sure if the 2nd is an expansion or just a gamemode
other dlcs are just skins and upgrade points

this looks more like MGR2 than a ninja gaiden game

>>718744473
The vast majority of people that have played it say it plays like an NG game.

can I finally admit I like this game

>>718744512
PCGamer didn’t and they’re the most credible journo

>>718744473
I really don't understand how anyone familiar with both of those games reaches this conclusion.

>>718744565
i dont like it

>>718744682
>blocking doesn't guard chip damage from cheap bullets
Dogshit design. this is absolutely not a ninja gaiden game.

when's the demo?

is there no izuna drop in this game? i've never played a ninja gaiden game in my life but it's the sickest shit ever and i keep expecting it to happen whenever i see somebody launch an enemy into the air in 4

>>718744850
>is there no izuna drop in this game?
there is

>>718744469
Ryu's weapons shouldn't be locked behind a paywall, and neither should his classic blue outfit.

>>718744850
Izuna is in.

>>718744812
Probably next month. Game is not out until October.

>>718744850
they fucked with a bunch of ryus combo strings for no reason.

>>718744910
agreed
i probably will only try this game using gamepass
otherwise i wont be buying full price if they pull out some expansion pass bullshit after the release

>>718739864 (OP)
Soulslop enjoyers' worst nightmare.

>>718739864 (OP)
play overwatch fortnite and you will find all action games slow in comparison

>>718745052
I'll sail the high seas for it. I look forward the inevitable "we reached x amount of players!" posts but not a single peep about sales thanks to gamepass existing.

>>718739864 (OP)
>game's about speed
>stutters like grandpa without meds
LMAO

>>718742895
>>718743006
This. DMC gameplay is geared towards making a fool of the enemies. NG gameplay is geared towards not letting the enemies make a fool of YOU.

>>718740328
It's an indicator that Ryu/Yakumo will attack that target, just showing you what you couldn't see before but otherwise it's like previous games.

>>718740308
Modern developers dont know how to do difficulty without having the enemy two shot you, retards will lap it up and call it "hardcore" because they dont know any better

>>718739864 (OP)
That 'lock-on' is so interesting. It's more used as a visual indicator of which enemy Yakumo/Ryu is tracking. Basically just a QoL of the old tracking system.

>>718745626
wouldnt that be tricky when using the big shuriken weapon?

>>718745962
If you were not having issues with the big shuriken back in the old games, you won't have trouble with this because it's literally the same.

>>718744850
Cute cat

>>718746064
i usually just hold b when using the big shuriken
but im talking about https://youtu.be/-ff-1w5ZdBw?si=mRIU_ds24n3lJTbo&t=930

NG4 should have a lock-on mechanic

>>718745154
I'm playing Lies of P right now (which I am enjoying) but it so jarring comparing the gameplay in the game compared to these NG4 webms. Its night and day.

>game is a commercial success
>NG girls get added to DOA Venus Vacation

This is the best timeline.

The year is 2004. Grown Men are crying from Master Murai in the first mission of Ninja Gaiden. The year is 2005. Grown Men are getting filtered by Cerberus in DMC3 USA which bumped the difficulty from the Japanese version (Easy USA was Japanese Normal. Normal was Japanese Hard. Japanese Very Hard is American Hard. DMD is still the same).

Best two years of my life.

>>718743254
I don't doubt that, different anon just shitting on the ninja gaiden games not actually being very good.

>>718739864 (OP)
>robots
>ai generated cyberpunk textures
Kind of lame.

Also:
NG2 > Sigma 1 > Ragebound > NG2B > Black > Sigma

>>718746260
>NG
>Lock-on
Why implement a handicap button?

>>718746785
sorry posted the wrong one
NGB > NG2 > NG2B > NG3R > Sigma > Sigma 2 > NG3

>>718742331
>Fewer enemies that deal more damage and take longer to kill isn't fun.
You're the one who chose to play sigma 2 and digna 2 yet edition. That's on you. Og ng2 is right there. Or just mod sig2 with black mod

>>718746921
>Somehow black 1 above sigma 1
Reddit opinion doesn't count

>>718746921
Sig1>2>RE>sig2 black MOD>anything else

>>718746795
yeah why make combat precise when you can just pray your attacks land on the enemy you want in the crowd. of course even action games with lock-on have a problem with picking the correct enemy you want to lock-on to in the heat of battle. along with the camera, lock-on has been a perennial problem for action games

>>718747095
You've never played NG

>>718746795
>>718746260
NG4 has lockon. you can see the red lockon retical over the enemies.
it seems to have a soft and hard lockon.

>>718739864 (OP)
OH YOU THINK THAT'S HARD
I'M JUST THE TUTORIAL LEVEL

>>718747119
you've never had sex

It's just a rhythm/pattern recognition game, kinda like Guitar Hero but with on-screen violence as a reward when you keep the timings good.

>>718747121
anon above said otherwise
then again, not sure if he played the demo at gamescom

>>718742047
>have a wordfilter set up for all varations of "Jas" due to pedofags in Stardew Valley threads
>now anyone who posts "ninjas" gets filtered
goddamn kid diddlers ruining ninjas

>>718747169
I accept your concession

>>718747119
>has option to disable the hard lock-on
>still has soft lock-on
sounds good to me
dont know why NG has the most autistic fanbase among other hack n slash games

>>718747340
you didn't even have an argument

>>718747095
Because ninja gaiden is fast and fiddling around with a lock on function will result in your ass getting handed to you much more than diving the wrong enemy unless it's a single mob bossfight.

>>718747387
and what if i want to choose who to flying guillotine or throw? what's wrong with giving me that option? how does that negatively affect the gameplay?

>>718747384
Neither do you, it's fine

>>718747481
>no you

>>718747431
>what if i want to choose who to flying guillotine or throw?
You jump in their direction and hit AX. This has never been a problem previously. You sound retarded or new.

>>718747431
Sure I don't mind the option but you will get hundreds of people dying to lock on just because they got pavloved into it by games that play differently and than they will start to cry because usually the targeting without lockon is allright if you get used to it which you wont because you press lockon and wil die to a guy that is suddenly not in frame anymore and you can't react to.

>>718747513
and what if there are 3 enemies in that same direction? and again how does that negatively affect gameplay to give me that option at all?

>>718747513
Taking control away from the player in a fast paced action game is just bad game design.

>>718747538
wut

>>718747513
all of the NG games have questionable game design
even as an itagakifag, i wont defend the game by not having a lock-on mechanic

>>718747597
Again, you jump in the direction of the specific enemy. Enemies in ng are large enough that they don't occupy the same space, did you play the game?

>>718747604
No one's taking away control, ng managed fine across 3 iterations without it now suddenly everyone needs lock on? You're constantly juggling between at least 3 enemies on the fly while being aware of more around you, in a fast paced game like this why would you also want to play around with a hard lock on mechanic too? This isn't DMC with enemies lining up to be combo'd

>>718747538
that's their problem
having the option is already a plus

>>718747257
Your expressions aren't regular enough

>>718747676
There are worse design decisions in ng than no lock on. Like the universally shit bosses. With your attention constantly changing between enemies, all the input required to get around and attack, incorporating a lock on for the player to control would break fluidity and get them killed, the other anon is right

>>718747718
and what if there are enemies in front of the enemy i want to aim at? what is wrong with even giving players the option for more control? you're just saying NG needs to stay the same for the sake of it because you're a retarded /v/ermin who needs to complain about everything

>>718747821
then dont use the lock on during that situation
jesus christ, anon
come on

>>718747728
It really isn't because there's hardly any situation in these games where a lock on would help instead of hindering you. Would be an almost useless option and just because it's there people will use it and not understand it's useless.

>>718744682
>>718744780
seriously guarding doesn't stop chip damage and gunfire in this garbage?
is the MGR run the only way to deflect bullets? that's fucking stupid and insane.
this i supposed to be NG

>>718747830
Sounds like you're bad at games, just stick to hero difficulty.

>>718747920
I accept your concession

>>718747920
> Baby Ninja difficulty

>>718747871
lol suddenly the hardcore NG elitist player wants new players to learn the game while he calls people who don't get it "bad at the game" or "new" or "retarded." genius level IQ

>>718747995
It's easy for new players to outdo a retard like you

>>718747830
>you're just saying NG needs to stay the same for the sake of it because you're a retarded /v/ermin who needs to complain about everything
>ng needs to change, it just does for no particular reason
Ok retard.

>soft lock on has now the red dot for ease of use
>you can also use the hard lock on for certain scenarios
if platinum indeed implements one, then i dont see anything wrong with it, NGfags can always opt to not use hard lock on mechanic

>>718748068
but new players are apparently too retarded to learn to use the lock-on option at appropriate times?

>>718746785
Tired of you underage morons, you will never be TRUE NINJA GAIDEN fans.

Here is the objective ranking:

NGII & NGB > NG (2004) >>> Dogshit >>> Smegma 1 > Razor's Edge > Yaiba > Smegma 2 > NG3 & Ragebound.

>>718748095
retard can't even quote the rest of my post because answering my questions would destroy his flimsy argument

>>718748219
i unironically had fun with NGB's adventure sections

>>718747917
Easy mode is right there for you lil bro

>>718748236
>still no argument for a lock on that doesn't out him as a shitter brain rotted by shitty games like souls

>>718748398
you really hate lock-on huh

>>718748312
what the fuck to you mean easy mode you dumb cunt?
Blocking deflects bullets on the hardest difficulties that's how Ninja Gaiden works NG2 and NG1 are a lot harder than this slop.
this is just a sign that platinum do now know how to make a NG game and are trying to make MGR instead.

>>718748219
Sorry little guy but the objective rankings have already been posted.
Sig1>2>RE

Thanks for bumping though.

>>718748398
real convincing argument, call me a shitter and not answer basic questions. I accept your concession

>>718748398
You lost.

>>718748454
If the shoe fit

>>718748437
>what the fuck to
esl rage KEK and he is blocking the bullets the guard is just breaking they made easy mode for people like you who can't keep up

>>718739864 (OP)
No, it's too slow and too easy

>>718748194
It's a waste of time. Go back to your War God game and leave Ninja be. Simply push the stick towards your target enemy no lockon needed, fool play.

>>718748760
but I thought you wanted new players to learn the game? which is it, big guy?

>>718748219
Nice webm. Forgot how shit the fight was. Literally just dmc1 final boss but even worse somehow

>>718748594
he's not blocking the bullets, he's taking damage you pathetic retard.
exactly how the fuck is the alternative (holding the sprint button to auto block bullets) "hard". that doesn't take skill.
all it does is force you to run around like a retard and makes teh game look and play worse. less like NG.

>>718748594
what are you "keeping up with" if you just spam sprint?
they're trying to force a bad mechanic.

>>718748825
I'm so deep in your asshole you're George Floyd.

>>718748945
I can't lock on

>>718744565
No. I will shoot you in 3

>>718748945
you're so butthurt you can't breathe

>>718748219
kys nigga

>>718 748126
Hard lock on is only for bosses. Guess which other NG games did this.

>>718749012
There will be those who can build deep (300u to 2,000u) and those who can't.

If you find yourself in the deep_builders group, and fall in love with the concept, it is worth teaming up with a Content Creator, the likes of Captain Steve, Beeblebum, Xaine, Jason Plays, Hero2u, Scottish Rod (if you can understand the King's English), Professor Cynical ... , as they can be a sounding board for WHAT to build. That leads to a dialogue and will help perfect various techniques that are known to work.

Needs I have identified so far include : What building parts can reliably be built at what depths, how to build a Base Computer at, say, a 700u depth. Because of the 1,000u building limit, that is the only way to have a surface landing pad/base AND a trench depth at 1,700 that could be just a record breaking wonder, or could be a way to use the new dredging tool?

It is a totally new challenge, and, so far, as you might expect, there are very few players down there.

Me? I'm a Space guy, only happy if there is no air. Not the ideal deep-sea player, so I'll follow up what others do. and eventually I might make a token deep sea base just to show I can do it.

All the best, and don't be afraid to try new stuff. That is how everything in NMS got done.

Bill

>>718748219
only correct post itt

>>718742947
This post tricked me into thinking the game's already out. Damn son, how the fuck are you saying this about a game coming out in October.

>>718749140
he's crashing out fr no cap

>>718749128
NG2
but the implementation is shit and outdated

>>718743940
Yes retard

Surely she is a master ninja herself by the time of NG4? Why doesn't Ryu just use her for help.

>>718748219
>true ninja gaiden fan
>half the series is missing, only poser itagaki games acknowledged
True dogshit fan

>>718749254
Change your mind? Looks like you're on Team Flesh Light...

Of course I have no room to talk. Just got the tentacle ship last night.

>>718743940
>Does this really appeal to people?
This isn't dmc but yes it does. It's like souls but good

>>718749305
Huh?

>>718749257
>true ninja gaiden fan
>same guys who made NG3
yikes

>>718749254
>she is a master ninja herself by the time of NG4?
depends on hayate's mood

>>718743940
there are so many reason this shit is platinum slop and not a real NG game.
>UI pollution out the ass
>yellow paint and handholding baby garbage
>no essence (HP, ninpo, money)
>garbage ninpo system
>lockon cursor
>sand bag enemies
>moves that should kill don't
>parry slop
>slowmo dodge
>bad animation
>most core NG mechanics are missing and in their place are generic or recycled Platinum ones.

>>718749504
way better than NG3/NG3R

>>718749504
add to the list
>Magnetic combat
>bad animation and distinct lack of polish
>closer to Yaiba than NG
>just like Yaiba, focus is not on Ryu

>>718749586
>Magnetic combat
what the fuck does this mean?

>>718749504
>no essence (HP, ninpo, money)
It has essence for hp
>sand bag enemies
On normal difficulty, no change from the rest of the games
>parry slop
Ng had counter moves since 1
>most core NG mechanics are missing
Name them

>>718749551
RE is kino, show some respect.

>>718749504
>>718749586
Holy buzzwords. Half of these aren't true and the rest are subjective. Great discussion, will buy day1

>>718749504
>>718749586
Imagine lying this much

>>718749167
I was referring to ninja gaiden games in general and thinking they were referring to one of the sigma games.

>>718749773
not that guy but counterattack in NG are not even close to the parry system in NG4
counterattack had to be done AFTER blocking an enemy and you had to memorize which attacks can be countered and which attacks break your guard
NG4 parry looks like it ignores whatever the fuck the enemy throws at you as long as you have the right timing before it hits you, shit is closer to having cicada surge to all your blocks

>>718749806
>kino
the combat saved it, i'll give you that
otherwise everything in that game is subpar

>>718750043
>counterattack had to be done AFTER blocking an enemy
In 1 and 2. RE had a pre emptive counter right before the attack lands.

>>718749504
shut up. shut the fuck up

>>718750086
>otherwise everything in that game is subpar
Combat is literally the only thing that matters. The game stripped out all the fluff and turned it into an arena game with great combat. I can't even remember the plot of 2 and replayed sigma 1 more times than black because the adventure stuff is boring.

>>718750164
but i had more fun with NG2 than NG3R

>>718750106
3 is dogshit though

>>718750215
They're both good. Having fun is all that matters

>>718747995
Needed to actually work for an hour... It's just a useless button and function for the game. Like a parking mode button for f-zero or a dedicated roll button without iframes in dark souls. Just makes you lose the game if you push it and newbs probably won't notice that there is no reason to ever use it.

>>718739864 (OP)
>H-HAYAI!

>>718750238
Yes, 3 is. RE is great though. If you're whining about 4 introducing shit that's already been introduced or changed a bunch through the series just say you're a 2fag

>>718744109
NG3 had the same thing and I hated it but retards here ate it up or didn't even noticed it.

>>718746307
If DOA girls truly mattered Yasuke wouldn't even be a thing.

DOA is a non-entity for Koei Tecmo and their fans only exist as paypigs for the gacha game. I would have believed you if NG2B had like 100k+ players because I guaranfuckingtee none of those dudes bought it for Ryu.

>>718739864 (OP)
I for one started playing the master collection because i was interested in the series. Tried the first game, got to the fire horse man and kind of gave up. I presume its a hard game series and it will be a frustrating process for me. Would i like to experience it? Sure! Do i hope its as hard as the fans want it to be? Absolutely. You guys have your fun, i'll find some other way of experiencing the series.

>>718749773
Blood essence is not essence.
there is no decision making there. you're just going to use it.

>>718750350
>RE is great though
lol
lmao

>>718750450
kek
are you a souls fan?

>>718750502
I like souls games but i hate the community with their shitty cultist behavior. There's more variables in souls games so i have to work with there

>>718750106
>>718750238
lmao, the preemptive counter originated in 2, 3RE's counter is just similar to that, including working both before and on guard. I really fucking hope you did that on purpose because I want to know where to direct my laughter.

>>718749889
>>718749990
thankyou paid shills. no need to elaborate or articulate yourselves properly. 20c has been deposited into your account.

>>718750450
What difficulty did you start with? Also IIRC there's a spawn point right before that boss, don't really see why you'd rage quit there when you can just keep on retrying

>>718750641
>Lying this much
COPE HARDER

>>718749773
>sand bag enemies
>On normal difficulty, no change from the rest of the game

that's a lie enemies are sand bags with way too much HP on all difficulties.

>>718750670
20c more has been deposited.

>>718750643
I think it was on the normal difficulty

more like Ninja Gayden

>>718750496
I accept your concession

>>718750641
>no need to elaborate or articulate yourselves properly.
If you didn't bother why should I? All you posted was a stale pasta

>>718750450
Kill the adds then charge your Y until he rides up to you.

>>718751105
i have nothing to prove or argue revisionists retard, everyone knows i'm right
you're like a woketard claiming gender never existed

>>718749504
>there are so many reason this shit is platinum slop and not a real NG game.
>UI pollution out the ass
Then request for options for it to be minimized or turned off. Are you that fucking stupid to just complain instead of being productive and ask for features.

>>718751198
>gender faggotry out of nowhere
Didn't realise you were this mind broken. Maybe take a break from the internet

>>718751358
>just beg for them to fix a problem they introduced
how about they don't add it in the first place????

>>718751198
You have already accepted the concession.

>>718751358
He's even more stupid. Those options have already been confirmed in, he specifically wants to lie about the game and the rest of the series to try and stop people being interested in it. He's that mentally unwell and desperate.

>>718739864 (OP)
>game has blinking arrows telling you that an enemy is coming from off-screen
>also Ryu gets covered by a giant hazard symbol right before an attack hits

Genuinely a skill issue if you're still sucking ass at this game after they added a bunch of shit like that.

>>718749773
>>most core NG mechanics are missing
>Name them
The core of NG is based around
-Attacks beat Movement (due to recovery frames)
-Block beats Attacks
-Grabs beat Block
-Movement beats Grab.

NG is not parry slop. Holding block puts you in danger due to other factors. All enemies have grabs for example.
all of that balance is out the window now.
Now the game is just parry slop. the blocking mechanic is unviable (this was the core of the game. it enabled multiple enemies to attack you at once and spam projectiles)
with parry slop enemy encounters will need much less enemies and scripting to only have 1 enemy attack at a time.
the defencive system is no longer equipped for large crowds.
Guard breaks and guard resets are no longer a thing because guarding is worthless. You need to just parry everything or you take damage.
Enemies used to be programed to grab when you block for too long. That is also meaningless now because blocking is worthless.
projectiles are no longer blockable either. You will need to spam sprint instead which is a shitty mechanic from MGR that has no place in NG.

NG had a counter that would leave you open if failed. it was just something extra you never had to use.
NG4 parry is mandatory. you will be using it all through the game. fundamentally changing the gameplay loop to parry spam just like very other parry game.

What's the Ninja Gaiden version of this called again?

>>718751539
That's just a classic case of extreme autism. We're not allowed to enjoy different things.

>>718751660
Ragebound

>>718751539
thanks marketer.

>>718751671
Does Ninja Gaiden have a story?

>>718751590
>Attacks beat Movement (due to recovery frames)
A lot of recovery frames are cancelled with shurikens
>-Block beats Attacks
Or just move out of the way
>-Grabs beat Block
Or just move out of the way
>-Movement beats Grab.

The most optimal method of play, at least in 2 is to just always be dashing out of the way, delimbing with light attacks which you cancel with shurikens and just chaining ots.
Beyond that also spamming uts. You naje it sound like theres a lot of choice but in practice movement and constantly chaining iframes is all you're really doing.

>>718751812
>cancelled with shurikens
Attacks beat shurikens too. Do you think you're invincible when throwing them?
You know what more reliably cancels movement? blocking.

>>718749639
Your attacks actually make contact instead of having some attacks in your combo whiff on most enemies at point blank because the older NG games were designed like shit.

I've never played a Ninja Gaiden.

Is it like Devil May Cry or Bayonetta?

>>718751879
I can count the number of times I blocked in 2 on one hand. Movement is just king and 2 forces you to always love. Blocking is much more useful in 1 where you can actually take advantage of counterstrike

>>718749639
it means retarded zoomers mash attack and your character flies across the area to the target so positioning is no longer a factor.
it also creates foot sliding and looks visually awful and unprofessional.

>>718751943
like sandbags of milk

>>718751943
Kinda but focus is on efficiently killing enemies instead of opening up a juggle combo you practiced.

>>718751943
It's like a classic beatemup where you just spam jumpkicks (Flying Swallow) on everyone.

>>718751943
uhhh neither lol you don't combo people for 10 seconds

>>718752001
>>718752034
Yeah, combo juggling is unfun to me (that's why I was asking)

Is there any story I need to worry about, or can I just jump into 2 remake?

>>718751943
No it's not.
But NG4 will play like Bayonetta.
it even has characters doing ground animation in mid air because platinum have no standards for quality.

>>718739864 (OP)
I will buy the game for she

>>718752059
you can just play ng2b directly, should put it on hard since it's the old normal though
do not choose very hard, it's actually very hard

>>718751671
tiger tail ice cream is SHIT

>>718751539
source on the option to remove UI pollution and yellow retard paint.

>>718752059
Can just jump into remake. Story is irrelevant. Though 2 purists will give you grief for not emulating

>>718739864 (OP)
>itaGODki didn't like sigma? let's port sigma to every console and burn all the copies of NGB and OG2
>itaGODki wants to get the bonus he and his team was promised for completing DOA4? start spreading bad rumors about him!
>itaGODki didn't want to put kasumi in NG because she's too pure to be portrayed as a bloody killer? put her in 3RE!
>itaGODki made fun of shitters for not beating his game? add more accessibility and slop mechanics!
>itaGODki don't like casuals playing his game? let's casualized ninja gayden!
>itaGODki created the most iconic super ninja in all of media? let's replace him!

>>718751943
Didn't you just post this in the MGS thread?

>>718751943
>>718752059
this webm will tell you which games are juggle slop

>>718752330
Zoomers are fishing for replies saying they never played shit after entering threads knowing that fucked generation they're looking for validation and replies instead instrest in the actual games.

>>718752330
Accidentally, yeah

>>718752294
>leaves team ninja
>makes one dogshit game
>never makes another
What did he mean by this?

>>718751671
It's gone well past autism into legitimate psychosis, all it takes is seeing the absurd screeching in the threads and constant denial of things that have been consistently shown. They'll see 3+ enemies swinging at Yakumo at once while another is shooting and call the enemies passive, get btfo with that one webm, then do it again. If an NG2 cultist tells you the sky is blue, call him a faggot and ask ChatGPT who turned the sky red.

>>718752521
>If an NG2 cultist tells you the sky is blue
based NG2 cultists, they are right btw

>>718752521
We're legit running out of games and franchises to talk about on this fucked board. There's a resident schizophrenic patient in every thread if the game has sold over a certain amount. Fucking aggravating that when this game does drop fucking reddit, steam fourms hell even gamefaqs would be a better option to discuss the game than here.

>>718751671
>only your opinion matters
>if your child disagrees with your opinion, he's the autistic one

>>718752643
>Fucking aggravating that when this game does drop fucking reddit, steam fourms hell even gamefaqs would be a better option to discuss the game than here.
This is pretty common these days unfortunately

>>718752456
No you retard, I have both threads open and somebody posted this >>718751851

>>718752643
>>718752521
>NOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO LET US SHILL THE LATEST SLOP!!!!!!!! NINJA GAIDEN IS WHAT KAMIYA AND PLATINUM SAY IT IS!!!!!!!!
>NGB AND NG2 ARE OLD AND BUSTED!!!! HARD GAMES AGED LIKE MILK!!
>BABY NEED NINJA RUN AND PARRY MECHANICS AND HIT SPARK PYROTECHNICS ON EVERY ATTACK

>>718752767
ninja gaiden "fans" say this

>>718752739
If you haven't noticed the uptick in "hey guyz never played (insert 20+ year old franchise) posting. You're blind and delusional I'm fine with newfags but if you can't be bothered to boot up an emulator or pirate a copy of ANY game in the franchise the thread is about. Instead just fucking post basic Twitter post and baiting replies. Go fuck yourself and lurk moar.

>>718752941
Take your meds, nigga.

>>718749639
In my days we called it auto tracking. You smash the attack button and the character automatically turns to the nearest enemy so you don't have to think about positioning or remember where enemies are. I played the NG3 demo and immediately noticed it. Is the reason I skipped it.

People made fun of FF15 combat for the same reason and spammed webms of it here for a long time.

>>718752941
Holy schizophrenia

>>718752941
Based and correct.
>>718753019
>>718753195
Samefag

>>718752643
Unfortunately I doubt it, people there are just as bad but there's just less opportunity for sporadic discussion and more incentive to continue the schizo parade with borrowed or outright false knowledge to look informed or better, like that one tranny on Twitter. Shit's all fucked from top to bottom. Despite most likely being a parody this >>718752767 is not even far off from how they actually act.

>>718744682
>losing 75% of your health bar from 1 hit
Lol not playing

>>718753364
It's not a "parody" you dumb fuck poser
Pl*tinum slop isn't Ninja Gaiden. Try actually playing NGB or NG2 instead of watching your favorite streamer "play" NG2Blacked and claiming to be a fan

>blocking
nah
>methodical gameplay
nah
>strategy
nah
>high skill ceiling
nah
>flashy lights? parry mechanic? minigames? donkey kong country style minecart riding?
YES!!! this is Ninja Gaiden for the modern audience!!!!!!!!! finally a game for real fans instead of gatekeeping schizos

>>718753494
It's ok anon, you don't have to pretend, we already established how deranged they are.

>>718753649
NG4 shills? yeah we know
the modern audience slop is losing hard lmao. NG4 will be another flop
lots of fake attention and hype day 1 for the sponsored streams, then KT releasing a statement that the game underperformed in sales and mostly negative on steam

>>718753617
>methodical gameplay
>strategy
>high skill ceiling
Only true for RE. 2 is just UT spam

Make your own NGB or NG2 spiritual successor. Platinum and TN aren't going to do it.
You will buy the new game anyway, paypiggy

>>718753769
the only "strategy" in RE is using meditation to abuse SoB

>>718749639
suck to target

>>718753485
I always knew Itagaki NG "fans" were casual faggots pretending to be hardcore.

>>718753770
why would I pay? it's the fitgirl repack for me :)

>>718744682
This is smegma all over again.

>>718753842
Always has been the case. NG attracts a lot of casual fags. Most got filtered by RE and never recovered.

>>718753842
>trial and error shit
>hardcore
there's a reason why itagaki didn't just buff enemies numbers for higher difficulties, at that point just play DMC

>>718744682
>blocked mid juggle
>good aggression supported by shooters
Kino. This is razors edge alchemists all over again. Expect tons of tears on release from casuals.

>>718753523
kek. Every NG thread is filled with literally insane individuals.

>>718744682
>doesn't guillotine throw them off the bridge
Some retarded journofag recorded this.

I'm a newfag that just started with NG2B on hard and I was surprised how painless it has been. I'm currently starting NG3RE and this masked faggot is pushing my shit in even on normal. Any tips?

>>718753821
The more I play RE the more I am starting to hate SoB. On higher difficulties they almost never do it in a way that you can counter because you're in the middle of a combo. Your options are use Cicadia surge or eat the damage. When I was playing on Easy just to grab a bunch of scarabs I was surprised enemies would just do it randomly there.

>>718744682
>Bringing difficulty back
Holy based. A return to form. Modern NG niggers wouldn't understand. They only played the casualized baby Xbox reboot.

>>718754235
Also the fact that you can't heal at all is too much.

>>718754235
NG2B is literally the easiest version of NG2, you fell for the marketers when you should have either emulated NG2 or gotten the master collection instead.

>>718754235
Nah, NG3RE just feels really unbalanced. Or made with series veterans in mind. Normal on RE is harder than Warrior in 2. I'm seriously regretting doing my first ever playthrough on Hard but I'm almost done now. Just Day 8 is left.

>>718754235
just mash nigga lmao DS have a really long string that enemies have no idea how to counter
xxxyyyy or some shit

Og NG2 is still easier than 1 thanks to execution animation spam giving you iframes. Bad sequel followed by an even worse one. You finally realize this series was never great.

>>718754235
Play the real NG2 or use the White mod on NG2B.
As for RE, you just have to git gud. Day 2 is fucking brutal, you will want to quit the game but I promise it gets easier after that.

Anyone pre-ordered the deluxe edition yet?

I'm in two minds. On one hand I want to play the "2 Masters" story DLC and have additional weapons for Ryu, but I do not want the additional "ninja coins" because that is going to fuck up the difficulty progression of the game.

>>718754315
Speaking of the Masked Faggot, any REfags in here able to give some legit tips? It was a massive pain killing him in both Day 1 and Day 7, the Day 7 version in particular feels like he can just guard everything and dodge out of combos and start uncounterable grabs out of anything that take two fuck ups to kill while I need to hit him a hundred times. I somehow won, but I genuinely can't figure him out.

>>718754235
>NG2B
Unironically just buy master collection and mod sigma 2 with black mod.
With RE you just need to git gud with the new fundamentals. Day 2 will fuck you up.

3RE is the most punishing NG game at default difficulty and I have a feeling most people got hard filtered by it and just handwaved it with the good ol reliable
>game bad because it just is ok??!

>ng3 is actually the hardest now
Yeah all NG niggers need to kill themselves. Bunch of schizos and insane people

>>718754235
NG2B's difficulties were renamed so what it said was Hard is actually Normal. 3RE is the hardest game in the series mainly because it pushes understanding your full moveset which leads to many people not even properly learning it and instead crying about it. But it's also extremely satisfying to learn and play. Beating the masketta man comes down to learning his punish openings, when his strings end and when he'll try to counter. While he'll usually reflect shurikens they're a very safe way to test his openings so you can learn them. XX>XY is a good lvl 1 damage string for a punish, or you can even do >Y to launch him on certain openings. In general you don't want to do strings too long as he'll block and try to attack, get a feel for when that is so you know how to stay safe. If your guard is broken, you can either dodge to recover or let go and hold guard again to block the next hit, he mixes guard breaks into his strings so counters are risky if you don't know them, instead keep that in mind to look for a typical punish.
>>718754292
You can heal with Ninpo or buying health upgrades, you get 5 of the latter a playthrough so try to use them when you'll particularly need them, you're in the learning phase now though so persevere.

>>718754542
3RE is only hard if you play it like ninja gaiden, game is braindead if you start using lunar+void or abuse SoB

>>718748219
Why is he BLUE?

>NG3 is le hard now
I am so done with this retarded fanbase. Game was trashed on release for being so easy.

>>718754631
all the history revisionist shit about 3RE are just very recent too kek

>>718754662
>game is braindead
This is true for all ngs unironically

>>718754740
OG NG3 was, not RE.

>ng3
We're talking about 3RE thoughbeit

>>718754412
There's way too much going on in NG2 to not have those iframes. I guarantee you beating MN in NG2 without OTs is harder than beating NGB MN.

>>718754759
>t-this was the hardest!
>it was braindead
>akshually they're all braindead
ok retard

>>718754740
Yes, NG3 is easy. We're talking about Razors Edge. Keep up or take your meds and go to bed grandpa.

>>718754662
but you can't SoB with lunar

Nobody even brought up vanilla NG3 but you schizo

>>718754454
I bought it.
The solution to your problem is to play as though you didn't have the extra currency.

>>718754796
RE is the hardest. If you move goalposts and start talking about braindead strategies then at least acknowledge that all ngs had braindead strategies to beat the game like UT spam in 2

>>718754815
you literally can, you can't chain SoB if that's what you mean
also what i said is lunar+void OR abuse SoB

>>718754662
The game's "braindead" strats are still far more risky, involving and blatantly misunderstood than any of the past braindead strats like GT mashing, as evidenced by you dumping words in your post that are all at odds with each other.

>>718754858
>The solution to your problem is to play as though you didn't have the extra currency.

That is easier said than done though when you are getting your shit pushed in by a boss, and that health upgrade is there at your finger tips. Hopefully the coins can be separately downloaded from everything else, so I just won't do it.

>>718754867
there is literally nothing in 3RE that is harder than OG2 chapter 11

>>718754917
>The game's "braindead" strats are still far more risky
there is nothing risky in mashing lunar+void or abusing SoB
>blatantly misunderstood than any of the past braindead strats like GT mashing
you can't mash GT, you are the one who's misinformed
>as evidenced by you dumping words in your post that are all at odds with each other
there is no contradiction in my posts

No Momiji
No buy
No Kasumi
No buy
No Ayane
No buy

>>718754867
>>718754856
>>718754807
>>718754792
>>718754762
It's just as easy you delusional faggots.

>>718754951
Chapter 11 is fine, not sure why so many people seethed about. Tonfas obliterate everything and there's plenty of corners around village for UT charges. More frustrating sections of ng2 is literally anything with water combat

>photo mode

Hopefully it is as good as the one in Rise of the Ronin and Nioh. The one in NG2B was garbage.

>>718754951
That's the Chapter where Ryu gets the True Dragon Sword yeah? I don't really remember any of the chapters being really big roadblocks for me in 2. Though the Ninja dog encounter in that chapter was annoying.

>>718754946
Have some discipline anon. Don't you dare use those coins and don't you dare accept extra items if offered. You're not a ninja dog, are you?

>>718755108
Keep doubling down gramps

>>718755115
even if you abuse tonfa UTs in the rasetsu encounter, there is literally no way to beat it cleanly
speedruns for 2 have to use glitches just to avoid it

>>718755193
that's probably because you played sigma 2 retard

Is NG4 looking like a harder 3RE or nah?

>>718755282
I think for the rasetsu encounter I mostly used blade ninpo for ot iframes on ninjas and lunar for the rasetsus. Or maybe eclipse. It's been a while but I has more issues with annoying water encounters in jungle level

>>718755338
Nope.

>>718755470
Fake screen cap

What's the best version of each game I should be playing? Last time I played NG I was a retarded kid

>>718755282
what were they even thinking with that shit, it's not even funny or hard it's just tedious you mash on ninpos and UT
i did that chapter in ng2b white mod recently and it spawned like 6 rasetsus but I ran away until the savepoint, came back and suddenly the door opened while they were chasing me

>>718755470
>emulator
post your cheat engine

>>718755348
Looks easier but less ... sloggy

>>718755348
Too early to say yet. Apparently people playing the Gamescom demo were getting their ass kicked, but they probably don't play these types of games.

>>718755552
Sigma 1
Either og 2 or sigma 2 with black + nm mods
Razors edge

>>718755470
>warrior
these are the retards telling you 3RE is harder btw

>>718755348
It's RE with healing items

>>718755552
Just get master collection which is on sale. You are going to have 1000 schizos replying to you over minute details about the different versions.

>>718755470
>No MN save
You have no right to speak about Ninja Gaiden. Hold your tongue.

>>718755558
itagaki wanted to rape your anus

>>718755606
NG3RE's Easy is about the same level of Difficulty as NG2 on Warrior.

>>718755575
Pretty sure most of them were journofags who never even touched NG prior so it's not really indicative of the difficulty given those retarded faggots only experience with "difficulty" was from playing soulslop.

>>718755348
The fact that you can actually heal already makes it infinitely less ballbusting than RE.

>>718755631
>>718755697
>Healing items are back
Joy. Thanks Platinumfags.

>>718739864 (OP)
>Is Ninja Gaiden 4 too fast?
no it’s just gay

>>718755676
sit down kid, adults are talking

>>718755592
>sigma 2 with black mod
which one, busabitch stopped working on the mod and the other one is pretty much abandoned too afaik

This game is going to sell 500k maximum and we'll never get another NG ever ever again. Should've made it a soulslike.

>>718746307
Rachel needs a vacation

>>718755860
https://www.nexusmods.com/ninjagaidenmastercollection/mods/386
This one, got updated by busa couple of days ago, doesn't require cheat engine or databin. Just drag and drop.

>>718755985
>This game is going to sell 500k
I doubt it'll even sell more than 50k copies tbqhwy. Platinum will still probably claim a million players milestone after a month or some shit but that's from goypass.

>>718755985
>Should've made it a soulslike.
The new trend is chink soulslikes specifically

>>718756037
did he fix the eye glow?

>>718756207
I only beat v14 so don't think so

>>718755985
No, it's coming exactly when souls fatigue has entered the zeitgeist. It's going to do huge numbers.

>>718756393
I hope you're right

>>718749504
They are clearly trying to chase the "modern audience" cancer because microjewtsoft investors likely forced them to add all those pointless accessibility shit because of how little confidence they have in NG4 actually selling.

>>718743758
Who is the one on the right?

>>718739864 (OP)
They'll add an option to play the game with only one button.

>>718744850
Got nerfed into a trash move to subvert expectations

>>718739864 (OP)
looks like hes mashing 1 button and using a dodge button every once in a while

Can someone make webms of the new Yakumo gameplay that's in 60 fps and is fast too

>Achilles
Unoriginal name, a bit disappointed. Was this nigga in the NES games or something?

>>718739864 (OP)
I play Platinum games casually but not any of the Ninja Gaidens except for getting filtered by the original sidescroller on the second level, should I get this? Also Nioh is gay

>>718754530
You can punish his ranged grabs (fireballs) with full X or Y or XXYYYY strings. You can hit him through his guard with the more spinning slashes at the end of your combos. What I usually do is guard the first hit of his string, slide away, if he continues wait for the string to finish, and then before it finishes slide next him and start an X combo, if he guards nope out. He is also open after he does that somersault grab.

>>718754662
>3RE is only hard if you play like man, game is braindead easy if you play like a spineless homosexual
FTFY

>>718739864 (OP)
Get back to pac man grandpa.

>>718754951
The only crazy fight in that chapter is optional, if you go for the windmill shuriken, the encounter with the 2x3 red spiders, tons of white ninjas and hordes of dogs.

Why is everyone in NG threads so hostile to each other

>>718757309
It's nothing like Nioh. If you look at the gameplay previous and think it looks cool then you'll probably like it

>>718757683
>Franchise died for a decade and the new entry is set to eclipse the old ones in terms of sales and pure number of new fans.
This literally always happens

>>718757610
you can just post your gameplay in the rasetsu fight
master ninja only btw

>>718751958
Why do you lie? When you learn NG2, you have to stay blocking a lot of the time or you die.
>>718752104
> do not choose very hard, it's actually very hard
It's easier than normal in NG2 due to reduced enemy numbers. I kekd hard when I saw no adds on 2nd Genshin fight.

>>718757743
I thought maybe some Nioh stuff might seep into this but I hope not. The last no-nonsense action game I picked up was that Xbox rhythm game one however many years ago so I might just get this as a change of pace.

>>718757821
I just called the rest of the ch11 pretty doable and you want to see me play the part I admit is nuts?

>>718749254
Ayane doesn't work for Ryu, she only helps him because other people tell her to like Jo in NG2 or Hayate in NG3. Ryu does "use" Momiji for help often however.

>>718757683
unfiltered autism

>>718757683
Genuine retardation and autism.

>>718757683
The games are hostile, so it makes sense the players are too

>>718757683
Genuine convictions and passion.

>>718757683
NG has a reputation which attracts a lot of mentally ill tards.

>>718754235
>>718754530
I remember this thread having tips/debates about it. >>704647951

>>718757180
I mean "Alexei" is not much of an original name either.
>>718757683
I'm an NG newfag and it's a bittersweet feeling looking at these autists eating each other out since despite all of it, you know it's coming from genuine passion from the franchise which is great. Ninja Gaiden will truly live forever with passionate communities such as this.

>>718739864 (OP)
Is Ninja Reddit 4 more trans friendly than the shitty toxic masculinity artificial difficulty itagaki games? I need to know if me and my boyfriend should buy this

>>718757683
People still thinking they are hardcore gamers for playing these games

>Mork likes MGRR
>Mork likes NG and newer TN games
>I'm thinking it's going to get /our guy/'s seal of approval. He'll probably shit on the rail sections and other fluff platforming tho.

>>718756814
Seori. The new girl in NG4

>>718756010
How did Ryu not instantly impregnate her?

>>718759620
Mork is gonna shit all over NG4 >>718749504

>>718741070
Filtered. They easy.

>>718740306
dmc was too easy, old from fags like ninja gaiden

>>718751198
>everyone knows i'm right
Who?
All the figure heads agree RE is good. Great even.

>>718749639
characters slide around as needed to make sure all the attacks are properly in range
you can see it in some of the videos like second 6-7 here >>718743732

>>718755552
Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden II. Ignore everything else until Ninja Gaiden 4 is out, then try out Ninja Gaiden 4.

>>718759620
>>718759751
Irrelevant

>>718753842
>casual faggots pretending to be hardcore.
Look at the MNM clear rates. All you need to know.

>>718755552
Play Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword. Ignore everything else.

>>718760340
>QTE shit
>shit story
>always the same type of arena
>good
figure heads are fucking retards and you too for listening to the opinion of anyone

>>718753842
>you die in 1 hit
>enemy takes 50 hits to die
shit game is shit

>>718755552
>>718760601
This. You may try NG1S too, it's not bad.

>>718760772
>MNM

>>718745838
High damage has always been a part of escalating difficulty you retard.

>>718740306
you know you can like more than 1 franchise? not everyone works for your shitty company and can't praise other games

>>718761038
Tourists

>>718744682
>enemies can now guard your air combo before you can izuna drop
Mom's gonna freak!

>>718745838
Tell me a difficult game with low damage.

Never played DMC. Is it worth getting if I'm an NG fan. I hate goth shit though.

>>718762806
dont avoid any. play them on release order
2 4 and 5 are shit

>>718762806
3 is the only true action game unlike NG where all of them are action games

>>718757683
Because what happene to this franchise, the developer team and the games and its potential and future is without a doubt one of the greatest tragedies in the history of the gaming industry.

It all started with a man called Itagaki. Team Ninja, under Itagakis leadership, made Ninja Gaiden, which was an instant hit, then they improved into a legendary game called Ninja Gaiden Black. A lot of people consider it the best action game ever made, but Itagaki and Team Ninja didn't agree and knew they could do better. Unfortunately, the publisher, Koei Tecmo were and still are the most cancerous retarded subhumans in the gaming industry. They did everything in their power to sabotage Itagaki, Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive.

Ninja Gaiden II, despite not getting the funds and development time it needed, turned out ot be an amazing game and some consider it better than Ninja Gaiden Black, despite it having rough edges.

Itagaki and some Team Ninja members left Koei Tecmo, Itagaki sued Koei Tecmo for all the false accusations and not paying him and his team their bonus and royalties and he won in court and got a lot of money, which caused Koei Tecmo and some of the Team Ninja members who stayed with Koei Tecmo to be extremely butthurt and hate Itagaki to this very day. They have done everything in their power to erase the legacy of Itagaki, making inferior version of his games and porting them to modern platforms while trying to erase the superior Itagaki versions.

After the drama and split, Team Ninja lost its identity and edge, they just aren't the same anymore.

Itagaki was to Team Ninja, what Miyazaki is to FromSoftware. If Koei Tecmo didn't sabotage him, Team Ninja would have been much more succesfull and in a much better and dominant market position today.

>>718755160
This shit is literally pointless unless you can actually take upskirt shots and zoom in on booba to noclip nipples or fully modeled vagina.

>>718763229
Based Itagaki poster.

Where can I play the demo?

very hard on ng2b white mod has some hands

>>718763229
But after having left Team Ninja, Devil Third flopped and he has gone to do some NFT video game project.

>>718763573
There is no demo yet.

>>718763573
(You) don't, only presstitutes and journofags got to play it.

>>718766518
I guess he just exhausted his resource. You can't really say he lucked out with NG2 and NGB, because he's made 4 good and moderately successful DoA games as well.

>>718766947
> moderately successful
Meant to say moderately to very successful, DoA2 was a bestseller, and he was its sole director unlike DoA1.

I was thinking about getting master collection but after seeing the absolute schizo breakdown of this thread I’m suddenly having second thoughts

>>718768126
It's worth it just for sigma 1 and 3RE. It's sigma 2 that is the problem child.

>>718768126
The best thing about Ninja Gaiden is the games.

The worst thing about Ninja Gaiden is the fanbase.

Just get the games, enjoy them, and ignore all NG schizo posters.

>>718768320
am I remembering correctly that sigma 2 and 3RE have a lot of playable characters?

>>718760594
That isn't magnetism, those enemies just dash around. He's already in range for his hit to connect, he's just doing an anime reposition. It even has an animation.

>>718768126
Please don't buy the Master Collection, it is an insult to the Ninja Gaiden IP.

Buy Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden II instead, they run flawlessly via Xbox Backwards Compatibility.

If you don't have an Xbox, emulate them with Xemu and Xenia emulators.

>>718763229
Kill yourself nigger

can you fall to your death in this game?

what was the point of ninja gaiden 2 brown on ue5 if it looks worse than the original 2? Even gore is downgraded, gore in 4 also looks worse. also there is not a single sexy female monster in 4, every other ng has sexy female monsters. no rachel, ayane or momiji as well. it's over

>>718769797
I don't think its possible in any NG game outside of 1 from memory. I'm not sure why it would be a thing now.

>>718768126
I highly recommend Master Collection. Every game is a joy to play. Currently I'm playing through Sigma 2 with Black mod on mentor and last few missions are just exhausting

>>718769247
2 has tons of issues on Xenia.
Sig1>Blacked

Bruh... Half the replies itt must've been AI generated. What am I reading.
Good meowning.

>>718752424
>3 ninpo slots in late game
>GoM costume
>tutorial prompts
>silver hp bar
Absolute ninja dog moment.

>>718772509
Still waiting on him to make a new game. Any year now.

>>718773845
In a good timeline Microsoft and KT would have approached Itagaki to direct NG4 as his magnum opus and reconciliation with TN for a true NG masterpiece, but we live in the jewed timeline.

>>718773209
>3 ninpo slots in late game
don't need more than that to beat the game
>GoM costume
it's the best looking costume
>tutorial prompts
it's a new game to show lvl1 dragon sword
>silver hp bar
who the fuck plays sugma 2 twice? LMAO
>unironically cherry picking vangelfs for air flying swallow
HAHAHAHAHAHA i rest my case

>>718774031
Nobody's stopping him from making new games. It's been 10 years

If you guys want an action game by a studio that actually knows what they’re doing Lost Soul Aside is coming in like a week

>>718739864 (OP)
I'm tired of the cyberpunk ui

>>718774124
>all that ninja dog barking to hide his coping and seething
Keep it up fido

>>718774361
>no name studio making dante at home chink DMC
Thanks, looks like shit

>>718768126
master collection is waste of money, emulate NGB: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXJIWXaVxgE

>>718774361
gives me pbz vibes where its a soulslike marketed as an action game

>>718774640
holy seethe

>>718739864 (OP)
Will this continue the franchise tradition of bosses being hot garbage or will Platinum change that?

>>718774361
>by a studio that actually knows what they’re doing
?
The entire "appeal" of Lost Soul Aside is that it was made by a nobody indie but looks AAA.

>>718774361
>a studio that actually knows what they’re doing
>no other games
Thanks Chang

>>718774850
>missing that much hp in the first fight in both versions
"Yowai Inu Hodo Yoku Hoeru"

>>718774969
The bosses we’ve seen look like a downgrade from NGB and NG2

>>718743404
holy esl

>>718775212
Genuinely impossible

>>718775212
NGB and especially NG2 had atrocious boss fights the new ones look way better

>>718739864 (OP)
Games that seem too fast on video never seem too fast once you are the one actually playing them. (And have gotten used to the speed)

>>718775204
well yeah, i had to make sure i avoided hitting one IS ninja and kept it undamaged and alive
anyway, weren't you the guy who almost died to white ninjas? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>718774783
I think you need to go re-watch footage, then compare it side-by-side with Demons Souls or any other DaS game. Also PBZ is an action game as well, the lock-on system doesn't suddenly negate that.

>>718775391
>>718775204
It's like being on 2008 /v/ again

>>718775041
It started as one guy but then Sony approached him with the China Hero project and he got funding and a whole dev team to make it. It's definitely no longer an indie game.

>>718775417
>Also PBZ is an action game as well
About as much action as souls, yes.

>>718756810
>yellow paint again

Why do modern gamers like getting so degraded? Are gen Z gamers really this fucking stupid that they need universal yellow paint in video games just to be able to play them?

In ninja gaiden 2004 I got my ass killed until I just knew how to beat various enemies. At that point it's no longer a case of "keeping up" visually with their speed but instead a lot of muscle memory, audio cues and knowledge of how enemies behave plus what weapons/moves work best against them.

Surely no one actually keeps track of everything individually purely within the scope of the camera and react to almost exclusively to that visual stimuli?

>>718775391
That vid still lives rent-free in your head? Lil bro it's been over a month atp. Not sure how an IS ninja made you lose over 40% of health in 2B.

>>718775537
It looks like it's leaning far closer to faster paced aggressive action when compared to a Souls game, especially the earlier ones like DeS and DaS. Something closer to Nioh or Sekiro.

>>718775717
Yes

>>718775950
how can it not? you're so obsessed with letting everyone know who you are, everyone should know you bragged about almost dying to white ninjas

>>718775537
People who played both at Gamescom confirmed PB0 is a better action game than NG4

>>718776531
>People who played both at Gamescom confirmed PB0 is a better action game than NG4
>people
Yes we all saw the comment from the redditor who found ng4 too difficult, thanks.

>>718776163
>beggars have been asking to see me play for years
>all while ignoring all the banger clips I had posted in previous threads
>decide to throw them a bone and upload 5m of uninterrupted random gameplay from months ago where I casually no damage several fights including the several IS encounters
It's not that deep bruh. Anyone can just look up the archives to see that you're malding because I exposed your fraud ass.

>>718776917
PCGamer said the same thing and the writer is a NG vet

>>718777038
what did you expose? lmao cherry picking van gelfs, gaja, and zombies with flying swallow does not disprove my point
clearly you're too fucking retarded to talk to dumbfuck

>>718739864 (OP)
nigga, even that cute catgirl bf6 clip that went viral is like 100x faster than whatever this dogshit clip is.

>>718777141
>goyimgamer
Cool

the funny thing about the itagaki avatarfag trying to shit on ng2 delimbs now is that if you look in the archives you'll see him claim that ng2 is better than 3re because of the 'more advanced delimb system' lol

>>718777498
the faggot tranny is a braindead shill
he's shitting on OG2 now because NG2B came out and he had to shill it
he was shitting on dodge offset in bayonetta too, lo and behold he changed his tune when NG4 added the same shit
NEW GAME GOOD MUST CONSOOM

>>718777498
He's some schizophrenic BPD russian troon on HRT.

>>718743404
>nioh3
What's wrong with Nioh 3? Genuinely curious. Played 2nd one, like, a week ago & was pretty fun.

>>718777498
>ng2 is better than 3re because of the 'more advanced delimb system' lol
What's the reasoning behind this? I didn't really notice much of a difference though maybe delimbs weren't as common in RE.

>>718777689
>the dilator of dagestan

>>718777748
Nothing. I dumped 400 hours into nioh 2 and loved 3 alpha. Hoping beta comes to pc though so pcbros can contribute to discussion and so they sort of performance issues so it's not DOA like wo long johnson (also because too many actual newfags responded to alpha survey and said it was too difficult when it was easier than 2)

>>718777880
>Nothing.
Glad to know.

>>718777793
you can't decapitate legless enemies crawling on the ground with a flying swallow in 3re anymore for example
the other anon's webm here comparing the games is another example >>718752424
the avatarfag's own words here:
>Vanilla 2 has plenty of ways to kill humanoids really quick depending on the limb they're missing or the state they're in, which is something I really miss in 3re, especially against legless enemies where you pretty much have to either OT or SoB them on top of extra Ki points already encouraging you to.

>>718739864 (OP)
>All games need to be made for retards because that's what i am.

>>718778139
Interesting, thank you.

>>718739864 (OP)
>How is the average gamer supposed to keep up with this speed?
They don't, they should just go play whatever the souls of the month is. Probably phantom blade zero or that swords of legends game coming out.

>"the other anon's"
blud does it again
>>718777263
You don't have a point, you're a deranged moron and an unironic ninja dog. Showcasing 3 completely different enemy types is the opposite of cherrypicking. As opposed to just one (humanoid type) or ignoring the MSAT fiend example.

>>718778479
oh no not only is he a tranny, he's schizophrenic too KEK

>>718778479
Dragon Sword was a fun game

>>718778139
I am correct but not in the way your nigger brain thinks I am, the advanced delimb system is largerly superfluous since you OT most enemies anyway.

>>718762806
DMC is the same genre as NG, but it goes in a completely different direction and is a vastly different take on this subgenre of 3D action games compared to Ninja Gaiden. For me, I love both because they are so different from each other.

>>718778665
give it up m8
you're a schizo hypocritical fuckwit who should end his own life asap

>>718778665
>devil's turd in the background
Was it really that bad?

>>718762806
Yeah they're both great as >>718778671 said. Just dont skip DMC1. It's pretty kino and you can beat it in one afternoon. The castle theme lives in my head rent free https://youtu.be/R4RvEmSRVbo?si=QZcJx6dniJ2T28VT

>>718779010
There's ZERO hypocrisy in my posts, I actually play these games and know what I am talking about unlike some buckbroken retard who just parrots my outdated takes without having an ounce of my expertise.

>>718752693
Yes anon, he's the autistic one because he gets upset and angry when he hears you have different tastes to him.

>>718757683
>Why is everyone in NG threads so hostile to each other
Tryhard autism.

>>718779448
totally right btw, also NG2B delimb rate is the same as OG
the modders restoring delimb rates are lying to you!
#believeitagakitroon

>>718779614
It is factually the same for the vast majority of enemies and moves. Play the games instead of parroting hearsay.

>>718779914
thisssssss
don't believe your lying eyes!
don't believe the modders!
don't believe the game you played!
trans rights!

not only a schizo but also a pathological liar lol

Momiji >>>>>>>>>> Seori > Ayane >>>>>>>>>> Rachel > Irene seriously why is Ryu's wife mogged by everyone else

>>718779614
Still can't believe they just ported sugma2 to ue5 and called it definitive 2

>>718774361
>action game by a studio that actually knows what they’re doing
>stamina bar for dodging
>slo-mo weapon switching
>FFXVI stagger bar system
>mobile game-tier 'ability' system
Nah he ruined the game, looked way faster and better earlier in development. Clearly cooked it for way too long thinking too much about shit. Also already confirmed that the next game he's making is a soulslike. I guess that's why that latest boss they showed was so crap and just stood there with no hit reactions to anything unless the stagger bar was depleted

>>718780329
Momiji>rachel>all the other sloppy sluts

>>718775212
Maybe if you are contrarian. The bosses look way better than 2.

>>718780329
I actually even like Mizuki over Irene that's almost kinda impressive.

>>718780072
Sword & tac ninjas, mages, brown werewolves, all types of van gelfs except for the new one, gajas, marionettes, zombies, all delimb just as quick. That's the vast majority. Just come out of the closet already bro.

>>718777141
>and the writer is a NG vet
Bruh... he was a Sekiro-let who found the parry too hard while holding up Sekiro deflects as some difficult but satisfying 'parry' when they're piss easy.

>>718780329
Momiji > tie between Rachel/Sonia > tie between Kasumi/Ayane > Seori

>>718745838
filtered

>>718739864 (OP)
they added slowdown on every second hit for retards like you

>>718780602
You ruin these Ninja Gaiden threads with Itagaki webm spam.

>>718780749
This. The game gives you tons of tools to not take damage + health options. At that point you're just a shitter

I think people are looking back on 2 with rose-tinted glasses without actually having played it in a long time or without having played 2 and other NG games and watched NG4 footage immediately after or during playing 2.
I'm playing 2 now and I am seeing a lot of the things people say like
>"When there were huge arenas in OG2 there would be crazy huge enemy encounters with multiple waves! in this NG4 footage there are only a small handful and no waves even though the arena is big!"
Since I am playing OG2 now on my 360 I have encountered several large arenas where there were only a handful of enemies and no waves. Even places where there just aren't any enemies at all even though it looks like a place where there should be enemies.
It's a good game, but not every encounter with a big arena has a lot of enemies or waves.

>>718781224
what difficulty are you on?

>>718781224
My main issue with NG2 is the bosses are MISERABLE to fight. They fly around or are otherwise out of bounds most of the time and you just jump around spamming jump attacks. The games are clearly designed around mob encounters. I hope NG4 at least fixes that as Platinum usually knows good boss design.

>>718781530
I wouldn't say they're miserable but too easy to lock into a loop and generally unsatisfying to fight

>>718781396
Master Ninja

Less talk more cool webms.

Post something nice from 3RE

3RE Dragon Sword moveset is so goated

>>718754235
Sigma 2 and 2 Black are the easiest Ninja Gaiden games.

>>718781224
I'm playing sigma 2 black mod on mentor currently and the encounter rate is pretty satisfying. Pretty much every area is bursting. Just beat the infamous chapter 11 and it was completely insane. In the mod you fight dual dopplegangers right before the rasetsu ambush. I don't recall even getting this far in og 360 version back in the day so can't compare but in this every 5 steps theres 30-50 IS spam ninjas

>>718781530
Yeah, the bosses in 2 are really bad. For the most part I don't think NGB has particularly good boss fights, but they're still better than 2.
2 has some genuine Sonic 06-tier level quality of boss fights

>>718781156
Spam.

>>718757683
Because a bunch of secondaries invaded and are outnumbering the old fans. This is temporary though, the secondaries will move once the next product to consoom comes out.

>>718782190
I'm not trying to say that the encounter rate in 2 is unsatisfying, just pointing it this discrepancy that every large area encounter is some crazy musou number shit with several waves because I see the complaint against 4 when there are several encounters in 2 in large areas that have an equivalent level of enemies from what we see in 4.

>>718782306
true
everybody in the community loved NGB and 2 and didn't like sigma 2 or 3RE for years, even a decade
master collection came out and suddenly we have all these tourists showing up telling you 3RE was actually the best game in the series and sigma 2 is better than 2
crazy

>>718782526
People were liking 3RE long before the MC came out.
More people just played it after the MC came out without being affected by the reaction to 3 so they are naturally not as critical of it and thus the reputation of 3RE has improved.

>>718782526
It happened to Silent Hill as well. God I hate normalfags.

CHADzor's Kino 3

>>718782526
>3RE was actually the best game in the series and sigma 2 is better than 2
Nobody said either of these things

Might honestly buy the MGS 3 remake as my token of appreciation of Platinum.

>>718782791
Never played Razor's Edge or NG3. My favorite was sigma 1. Will i like it? How does it compare to Sigmaballs 1?

>>718782887
plays nothing like NG

>>718782828
For me, I think I will get Shinobi Art of Vengeance.
If Lost Soul Aside somehow gets great reviews then I might pick it up, but I think it looks really mediocre after the most recent gameplay to be honest, I wish they released a demo.

>>718782828
Spam.

>>718782917
>LSA
yeah I was on board myself until I saw the recent footage.

>>718782887
It's very different, but enemies block more than they do in 2 so on that front it might be a bit more like 1.
>Will I like it
The only way to find out is if you play it yourself. It's not the kind of game you can confidently tell people "you will definitely like this if you like these other things".
I think a lot of people bounce off of 3RE when first playing it, then warm up to when returning to it at a later date and actually trying to learn the new mechanics and features.

>>718782791
every 3re clip is always some 'freeflow' combo shit, you don't see the player blocking once here
lame ass game

>>718783057
Why? I thought it looked pretty good. I'm still hoping for a demo drop at the start of next week though.

>>718783145
it's because all the weapons get longer combos and you can just cancel with cicada surge any time
game is mashy

>>718783073
I'll give it a try. I remember NG3 being shat back in the day. And since i stopped being a console pleb i never bothered to get a console to play it. But i think i might get the master collection and try it on PC, since its Razor's Edge that comes along.