Thread 719192462

Why should anyone play Honkai: Star Rail when you could be playing Wuthering Waves?

Why would anyone play your chinkshit gachaslop to begin with. Terrible "gameplay" worse rates.

hell no. fuck gacha

>>719192462 (OP)
why should anyone play those when you could be playing normal videogames

>>719192462 (OP)
she looks underage

>>719192674
Why should your parents let you live in their basement when you could be living in your own?

Gacha peaked at Wuthering Waves
Also, it's funny that WuWa did FGO collab way better than Star Rail by making their version of Rin playable kek

>>719192462 (OP)
Why are you comparing the regular 4 shitheads in a row genre Gacha to the Breath of the wild knock off Gacha?
Why aren't you comparing it to Genshin Impact instead since they are they same type of game?

>>719193393
Because people are so retarded that they choose to play that camera man garbage called Honkai: Star Rail when they could've just played a game with actual gameplay like Wuthering Waves. Also the fact that people choose to play h*yo games is just another kind of low, Kuro Games is the best gacha developer in the market right now.

Tl;dr, HSR's revenue is unjustified, people should go outside the box and play great games like Wuwa.

>>719193618
>I hate Genshin
>I love Genshin clone: HD edition
I don't understand people like you. They play exactly the same with minor differences. It's not possible to hate one and love another, it's only possible to say that one is slightly better than another, that's it

>>719192462 (OP)
The only gacha I play is Umamusume because I'm a /sp/poster at heart

>>719193760
Nah. You're just too retarded to appreciate Wuthering Waves. You'd get hooked with the game if only you're not a hoyotard.

>>719193956
I appreciate Wuwa, it's nice. You're too deep in your Wuwa cult, you think everyone who mentions Genshin is your enemy. Here's how I'd rank them having played both since 1.0
Genshin 2.0 > Genshin 1.0 > Genshin 4.0 > Wuwa 2.0 > Genshin 5.0 > Wuwa 1.0 > Genshin 3.0

>>719192792
Because I don't have a basement

>>719193618
I choose to play Honkai Star Rail because the story is considerably more interesting than Scifi Beijing China.
Yes the Xianzhou Luofu exists in Star Rail but at least that's not the entire fucking game and it's also built off of preexisting lore from Honkai Impact 3rd.
I played WuWa and I couldn't be fucked to care about a single damn thing happening in that game and I played for 30+ hours.

>>719192462 (OP)
wuwa doesn't have gato sexo

>>719193061
This one owes me sex.

>>719192462 (OP)
Wuthering Waves players are like the jehovah's witnesses of gacha gooners

>>719192462 (OP)
I mean aside from gacha they are two very different games in terms of gameplay. I will admit that Cipher was hotter than Iuno and especially Augusta though. Not that she isn't wasted in HSR.

>>719193618
Also where as WuWa goes all in on waifufagging by having (You) be a harem protag, HSR only let's like one or two girls be with you, and they are consistently the worst girls.

*ahem*

>>719194826
>Mavuika: The Redemption
Holy KINOOOOOOOOOO

>>719194958
Mavuika was hotter at least

I've been playing for a week, it's alright, it's still the same BOTW copy as other open world gacha but this has a more unique identity, and some gameplay features like intro/outro and monster skills are actually cool.

I want to get the blue haired girl but I don't have a lot of premium currency, but I'm not spending either, this shit is a slippery slope.

>>719194795
>gacha gooners
thats snowbreak and gfl2

>Wuthering Waves players are like the jehovah's witnesses of gacha gooners
KEK

>Play
Are you OK, retard?

>>719193618
anon, hsr isn't for the kind of people who would play wuwa. it's for jrpg fans who don't have the time to do long sessions in those games anymore. that's an audience of people who play 50 to 100 hour long video games for the story, and only the story. the games closest to the likes of hsr is stuff like fgo, heaven burns red, and limbus company, but few coming from chinese gachas will take those seriously for a number of reasons.

>>719195074
Can you do this in botw or in genshin, or any other open world gacha game? Fun fact, this team clears the endgame faster, since the game favors aggression and skill expression, having 3 DPS and constantly switching between them (ideally having the 3 of them on screen as often as possible) results in better DPS.

>>719192462 (OP)
You can't play right now reatrd

>>719195272
and how much do I have to pay to do that? that is the inherent problem of gacha.

>>719192462 (OP)
>get cantarella
>uninstall
got my waifu. goal completed.

I regret rolling S2R1 phrolova you just hold M1 once and the dungeon is over wtf

>>719195230
>the story
nah bruh, I'm done with low effort hoyo games. the best part is that hsr purposefully stretches their " story" for 8 hours every patch since chinks thing more time wasted=better.
I got to 2.6 and dropped the game.

>>719195230
HSR is very time-friendly. Log in, autobattle for 5 minutes, collect dailies and log off. Lack of content it may have but it's strong point is not having to invest a ton of time into it. The skip button was a godsend for it since it lets you skip the yawn-inducing story.

>>719195446
>HSR selling point is the story
>the skip button was a godsend
?

>>719195332
5 bucks a month. That's what I pay and I have every female character, and I think 5 signature weapons.
I think its a fair enough amount of money to pay for about 20 hours a month, less than half of what something like wow asks.
You can always go f2p and only get half the units, but I think the fun of these games is getting every character that you want.

>>719195272
i like the game and plan on playing it regularly but for the average person this just looks like particule vomit, i know because these were my exact thoughts a week ago

this needs more inputs and proper timing to pull it off than it looks

>>719195272
I'd be impressed if I didn't know that was done with a grand total of 3 buttons.

>>719195272
Now do he same with 100lvl challenge boss

>>719192462 (OP)
Why should anyone play Gacha when they can play actual, complete, superior games at a fraction of the cost they'd spend on predatory microtransactions?

>>719195383
Why is if that you chose to show a Genshin side quest when the anon was talking about Star Rail's main story?

>>719195743
wuwa is free retard

>>719195662
Are you implying that you can't do a hologram VI with quickswap? Or are you asking about doing it with that specific team?
https://youtu.be/Ff5NP7RmlS4?si=1V5aH5A3p0yB73dU
You can do it solo with a 4 star, so of course you can do it with any combination of 5 stars
https://youtu.be/66awr0KuFT0?si=qDPZ6jzOAUWUAyDW

>>719195636
>X normal attack
>Y special attack
>L2 echo skill
>R2 ultimate
>R1 + X timed dodge
>up, down + right for character switching and casting outro/intro skills

It's no DMC 3 but it's fairly in depth, still gacha tho

>>719195503
then I shan't be playing

>>719195791
I didn't have a webm in hand, but you can skim through this (on mute, god that gigguk guy is a fag)
https://youtu.be/gg2jidtepks?si=0G3AP2Xf_AQXTF0B

>>719195743
Gacha is one of the last bastions of games for men is why. Yeah these games often still put in some stuff for women and some even dedicate to them, but in a time when female sex appeal is becoming increasingly rare having hot girls, sometimes even with big boobs, is a big selling point.

>this is the best gacha shills can do
neck yourself faggot

>>719195870
You forgot the charged attack (hold attack) and gadget for the zip line. DMC 3 and 4 also use like 5 buttons, its all about timing (specially to get those damn max exceed).

>>719195943
The worst part of Star Rail is the Xianzhou Luofu.
Unfortunately for Wuwa players the Xianzhou Luofu is pretty much Wuwa's entire vibe and story.
Fantasy Wuxian China is fun and interesting. Scifi China is fucking snore fest.

No, ranjeet I will not redeem the chink knockoff of a chink knockoff

>>719192462 (OP)
too much effort to grind to level up characters in hoyoslop and wuwa

>>719195851
Juggling you fucking faggot using d-pad and 3 buttons like seen in the webm

>>719196252
So you are telling me that the 2.5 patch, the banananana one, is very fun and engaging, with totally not reused animations, and not 5 hours of characters standing still without even a basic animation to break up the pace? And that the whole of 3.X patches are full of tightly packed dialogue, that doesn't waste a minute of your time with filler, and all of it is beautifully rendered with customs animations?

I'm surprised people made it through WuWa's beginning and are somehow still playing the game. The story was not good at all, spitting out terms and words that are nonsense at the player; it's straight into the China slop; the gameplay wasn't very fun but it's subjective; the open world felt like a massive downgrade from the likes of GI; characters were generic and boring; hard to get used to pronouncing a bunch of character's names. Yeah, I don't see it.
I heard that they did really good with 2.0 but that sounds like they got lucky rather than something intended. Then they massively fuck up their anniversary by not even giving players an SSR, a game that got its reputation by being more generous than the competition...

>>719196457
How are you going to juggle a boss? Do you juggle big bosses in character action games? I wasn't aware you could juggle Cerberus in DMC3 or 5.

>>719196576
Hoyoslop is so cheap. I can't believe there are sheep out there willing to put up with it.

>>719196583
You are not wrong, the first like 5 hours are fucking trash, I quit the game on the first day and only came back for the free 5 star a couple of days later. Some of 2.X stories still suffer the standard chinese problem of them being like 40 minutes of dialogue that is not fun to listen to (unlike, say, how Tarantino or Nisio Isin do fun dialogue/banter) without any gameplay in between to break up the pace. But most of it has very good presentation, link related is the latest story patch and everything from the sound design, music cues, camera cuts, framing, character expressions, etc. was very good. Not Kubric level good, but the best on the gacha sphere I would say
https://youtu.be/98OWQr41M8M?si=hZ2MA89RUDn7jVOr&t=10333
I ask that you watch for a couple of minutes and give your opinion.

Shit gets better in Rinascita. I actually enjoyed everything from 2.0 onwards - well, except PHROLOVA FUCKING DYING

cyberpunk collab when?

>>719196882
>I ask that you watch for a couple of minutes and give your opinion.
I gave it a look but you know that cannot resonate with me or anyone else that isn't playing the game, right? My opinion is that it's much better than what Hoyo is putting out but that's a low bar. That won't get someone that did not like the gameplay to come back, especially not for a gacha game. I don't keep up with WuWa but I'm surprised that WuWa is never called out for absolutely shitting out characters (2 per patch). I remember absolutely hating that when Hoyo did it with HSR when I played it; causing the to ignore old characters in favour of newer ones, which would also impact the story. I'm 100% sure that the same thing applies to WuWa. Having 2 characters per patch is such a turnoff, regardless of how generous the game might be.

>>719196576
On the virtue of not being bombarded with a Chinese proper noun every 3 words. Yes. I was far more invested in the gay gamblers Ocean 11 knock off story than than listen to the small pink haired fortune teller spouting 5 syllable Chinese words at me about the cycle of rebirth and sins of the father story line with every other breath.

>>719192462 (OP)
i dumped it after solon shit eater ruined my life

>>719196576
>you couldn't have made him clap.
It was a cheap franchise tie in. They didn't even pay for western voice actors to voice Saber, Archer, and Lancer. Hoyo knew that the mere inclusions of the characters at all meant big pay out. They didn't remotely have to try.

>>719192462 (OP)
>>719197181

>>719192462 (OP)
listen chink dev shitters, hire me next time because the shills you are paying for are so fucking bad at their job

>>719196882
This actually looks pretty good, I might pick this up. Whens the next cunny banner?

nobody here plays HSR
only shin plays wuwa here

>>719192462 (OP)
Diversified template advice

>>719192462 (OP)
why is she doing the burnice pose?

>retards defending HSR
lol
WuWa obliterates HSR anyday

>>719192462 (OP)
I tried a bunch of gachas the last few days, wuwa felt a bit janky to me, didn't grab me and felt like a worse genshin impact in terms of movement. Maybe it gets better later on, it also felt like they took a bit too much inspiration from genshin in their game design...

>>719198095
Why not? You hoyoshills are so fucking annoying

2.6 DROPS TODAY!!!!!!

>>719199427
>worse genshin
Tell me you didn't play the game without telling me you didn't play the game

>>719199516
I played it for like 10 minutes, it felt stiff and janky in comparison to genshin movement. I'll probably give it another shot.

>>719194795
If we're the Jehovah's Witness then hoyoturds are the islamists of gacha gooners

>>719199678
>10 minutes
So you have attention deficit disorder. Opinion discarded.

>>719196397
Yeah that's what made me stop playing genshin impact, farming the same bosses every day to get materials. Is WuWa equally bad in that regard?

>>719192462 (OP)
gata sexo

How is the powercreep in WuWa? Is it better or worse than genshin impact?

I missed all the free 5* characters in WuWa so I lost all the motivation

>>719196397
hsr daily's are faster than any game showed on your pic

>>719192462 (OP)
>gacha
Imagine a loud, mocking laughter

>>719199516
Not that anon but the gameplay felt just as bad as Genshin (but in a different way), the story was shit, the overworld felt cheaper than Genshin, and worst of all, the enemies didn't have any cohesion to them at all, being random shit thrown together. Yet I'm meant to push through that to reach 2.0? Yeah, no. We used to laugh at people unironically telling people that "it gets good 20 hours in", only in this case it's like 40-60 hours in.

>download 45 GB patch
>another 3 GB
Why couldn't they just download everything

>>719200164
see
>>719199809

>>719199516
I played it from launch up until the dragon chick released. Got her and her weapon and then uninstalled shortly after.
It definitely felt like a less polished genshin at the time, I'd imagine it's improved since then though.
Setting and aesthetics were the biggest turnoff though, and the story being classic chink shit that I just tuned out of because the start was just throwing word salad around. Genshins was no better on the story front but at least the world was nicer to explore back when I played.

>>719195965
I can just Google anime girls I dont have to waste my time on a shitty mobile game lmao
Youre so blinded by fake pussy you can't even hear yourself speak, defending gacha get the fuck back to your mobile game board

>>719200219
Whatever helps you cope with the fact that it's just another Genshin clone and that it's not going to be for everyone.

>>719192462 (OP)
She fucks a hag that sexually abuses kids

>>719200235
Yeah the absolute nonsense dialogue sadly seems like a staple in the genre.

>>719200105
>faster then limbus
that's cap

I really wanted to like this one but every time I try a gacha all the dumb boilerplate shit gives me an aneurism.

Wuwa is the only gacha that actually feels like a video game but in 2.X they've streamlined the exploration which is bad.

>>719200448
People think that Limbus has fast dailies? Maybe if you're an old player and can take the hit to efficiency by sweeping but if you're not sweeping, Limbus takes ~10 minutes. Add in a MD and you're looking at upwards of 30 minutes.

>>719200563
Kuro is getting jewish this past few patches, sadly. New areas, big as they are, only have a handful of astrites to farm. The Factorium is laughably barren.

>>719200563
But enough about how shitty HSR is

>>719199932
still needed to level up skills and going over to POIs for flowers and stuff for level caps

>>719200448
does limbus have autobattle?

>>719200646
I don't think it's a Kuro thing, it happens with most big gachas.
2.X is always when shit starts getting worse for some reason

>>719200623
>>719200773
Sweeps + 1 20-30 minute weekly dungeon for 5 rolls

>>719192462 (OP)
>Play Chinese Gacha now

>>719200812
>hoyoturd projection
Just because your game turned into total shit in later patches doesn't mean WuWa turned shit too. WuWa peaked more than ever unlike your dying camera man game.

>>719199932
New weekly bosses in Genshin have become so fucking annoying.

>>719192462 (OP)
I just have to ask, is this a Lesbian/Yuri game? I can't stand that shit so am I in the clear? Is the Mc male?

>>719200285
If I have to google a woman to see one that actually looks like a woman then there's something wrong with the media at large.

>>719200964
Yes

>>719200563
Yet another reason not to play gachas.
No matter how """good""" things maybe right now, in time every gacha goes full kikel.

>>719200879
>Disingenuous retard
Yeah, you're not gonna be able to box everything with just that. Care to add dozens of MDs to that calculation to fairly represent an accurate amount of time spent on Limbus per week? Somehow I can't see you doing that.

>>719200812
sexo with pink babala

>>719192462 (OP)
I would but the servers are down for the AMAZING LOOKING 2.6 UPDATE. Fuck i wanna play.

>>719201135
>Wuwa releases
>Hoyo suddenly makes all of their games greedier and p2w
This shit is so funny

Wuthering waves have incredibly bad dialogue and story, and they talk a lot.

>>719192462 (OP)
Why are Wuwafags so desperate? Why are they trying to compare their game to HSR over GI? Why are they using Saintontas, of all creators to try and make a point? Genuinely, Wuwa has by far the worst gacha fanbase I have seen on 4chan.

>>719201089
what does that have to do with fast dallies though

>>719201485
I guess that's what happens when the premise of your identity is a derivative of another thing

>>719201485

Why are hoyochills always spending their time in WuWa threads... oh yeah their game sucks lmao... if we can even call that games.

There's a reason we're here right now, its maintenance... otherwise we'd be playing.

The most fun gacha I've tried so far is girls frontline and nikke.

>>719201571
Well if we're only talking about dailies, you've been spreading disinformation. Only old players sweep, so by saing that you sweep content, making dailies real quick, it's a complete lie. Players--especially newer players--will not spend double sanity for 1.5 times the reward. They will actually play the stages, which takes time. I'd say ~10 minutes to clear dailies, which is longer than HSR, for example.

I feel like Amphoreus along is a little bit more interesting that the entirety of Wuthering Waves. Generally more appealing characters too. Watching Phainon go full ham was fun.

>>719201646
Yeah, it does seem that way but I'm curious what causes this level of attachment to a gacha? None of the other gacha games cause this level of fanaticism amongst their playerbase.

>>719201650
Perfect example of a Wuwa lunatic.
>hoyochill
What makes me a Hoyoshill? Is the only criteria that I attack your precious game?
>There's a reason we're here
Yet none of the other fandoms act as deranged as you lot.

>>719201920

Nikke has good story, but no gameplay.

GirlsFrontline 2 is fine until you realize its just another autoplay game in the end.. wish it was more like XCOM

>>719202127
>Yet none of the other fandoms act as deranged as you lot.

im sorry, have you never been on reddit like ever? hoyo has the most cancerous community on the planet period, plus they bot the fuck out of everything, probably supported by the billions of dollar behind that machine that keeps all their chills in check.

I think terrorists envy them because they havnt found the way to be as annoying as hoyocucks.

Okay. I get there is Yuri. But any straight stuff? I dont have agp you fucks.

>>719202563
The main character is male and every character has a crush on him. There isn't even any yuri unless you play as a female.

>>719202468
>Reddit
No, no I do not. I don't care about your whataboutisms, you fags have consistently proven to be the worst gacha fags on 4chan. Actually pathetic, good job.

>>719202563
Nah, you'll switch back to femRover. You have to mentally challenged to not use the sexiest character in the game.

>I-I only switch to femrover during side activities!
Yes, yes.

>>719202140
Yeah I had a feeling girls frontline would have that issue, too bad it has such a high potential to just be an interesting strategy game, but every gacha game is terrified of including any kind of difficulty.

>>719202753
Why are you so fucking weird? Why can't you be normal?

>>719202048
Who gives a fuck

One good moment in HSR will never beat the overall high quality and good gameplay of WuWa. You are fucking stupid if you think that some random literally who character can ever make HSR fun to """""play"""""

>>719192462 (OP)
I would try it if it weren't gacha

>>719195743
Is Helldivers 2 a gacha?

>>719202639
Factually and quantifiably incorrect, man i cant wait for maintenance to be over so i dont have to waste time with your kind here. You have too much free time from your idle games.

>>719203026
I am normal. I don't like people pretending like their sexuality is compromised because of video-fucking-games.

>>719203187
forgot to include some more, btw anyone who plays any 3d gacha games without sexy mods is missing out.

>>719200812
>2.X is always when shit starts getting worse for some reason
i remembered how genshin 2.X patch sucked so hard.

>>719203094
Wuwa is f2p

>>719203192
Man, I am gay as fuck. Gold star bisexuality and all that buddy. I just am fucking sick of toxic Yuri mental illness. I want what is interesting to me you projecting twat.

>>719192462 (OP)
Whats the recommended starting points for a newcomer i know?

>>719203528
Now that you mention that, no. WuWa cast is 90% female, and the only few male characters don't show any romantic interest or gesture to the MC if you decide to go male.

Reeks of SEAMonkeys around here

>>719203619
Go roll for Shorekeeper, she's coming out today. She's currently the best support in the game.

This thread STINKS

>>719203707
HSR is full of SEA if that's what you mean

What causes the HSR insecurity?

>>719204123
I just want Black Swan to come out... I saved around 200 wishes for her...

This game feels like they told an AI to create a game similar to genshin impact.

wuthering waves fan insecurity must be studied

>>719203094

1. MC is a massive chad, and he's actually super strong compared to most gacha out there when he's a twink cuck.

You could just play the whole game without doing a single pull and you'd have no problem doing all story content. Gacha really is optional in these games.

WuWa can never reach Genshin's peak like FF14 can't reach WoW.

First Mover's Advantage.

I think Duet Night Abyss may change the landscape.

>>719204482
>I think Duet Night Abyss may change the landscape.

Wuwa shilling is probably the most pathetic thing that ever happened to gacha.

Game is decent but holy fuck the asspain and inferiority complex with Hoyo games is just crazy.

>>719204542
The keyword is "may"

>>719204482
>I think Duet Night Abyss may change the landscape.

No way, graphics look like ass, its not exactly mature like wuwa but its still kinda kiddy like genshin. WuWa is peaking right now each update is better and better and devs actually listen.

If Expedition 33 wouldnt have released this year, WuWa would be on my top spot no questions.

>>719192462 (OP)
No
I dont like it

>>719204441
Literally nobody gives a fuck about the self insert MC. Also wuwa writing is horrendous.

>>719204620
>mature like wuwa
>devs actually listen

>>719204702

"Literally nobody"

"thinks he speak for everyone"

lmao

https://youtu.be/k-aywg4A-zo

inb4 something something CC

>>719204847
>muh ecelebs

Jesus fuck this is just pathetic.

>>719204620
>mature like wuwa
>devs actually listen

>>719204782
Yeah, we're actually talking about Kuro games here and not that stale shit called Honkai star rail where powercreep gets worse each patch

>>719204620
>wuwa
>mature

It's literally Solo Leveling.

The only thing wuwa had over Genshin was better movement in open world. Then Genshin kept adding movement skills to every new character.

Story is laughable, designs are mid, combat is ok but nothing amazing, graphics are good but that's it really.

>>719204952
And is that supposed to be bad? Solo Leveling is the most popular anime of the year and it broke a lot of records

>>719204620
>WuWa would be on my top spot

You played only 2 video games, and the other one is not even a "game"

>b-b-but if we did some cherry picking, wuwa is actually bad!!!

Honkaitards, not even once

>>719204918
>muh HSR

Of course LMAO. Rent free to the max.

>>719204847
There's no way these people aren't just pretending to like the story for viewers

>>719205036
Now compare Solo Leveling to Evangelion.

It's generic pop.

>>719205168
You honcucks are obnoxiously dumb. Next thing you'll tell me is that HP inflation in HSR is a fun challenge

>>719205036
Holy fuck you are a joke. Solo Shilling literally lost money. It was only popular in 3rd world. Nobody bought merch or paid for the show. It's trash.

>>719195272
You've never played a KRMMO?

Can someone please explain to me why these retards deflect to HSR over Genshin? HSR isn't even in the same genre as Wuwa.

>>719204952
>It's literally Solo Leveling.

Yes and... literally nobody like that right? lmao you guys make this so easy.

>>719192462 (OP)
Because Punishing Gray Raven mogs both

>>719205347
They're throwing darts like a monkey.

>>719205250
>honcucks are obnoxiously dumb
>In a thread shilling wuwa using hsr op pic
Wuwajeet is a pathetic creature.

How is it as a free2play? I'm not opposed to spending like, $30 at some point

>>719205347
HSR is making more money. That's it. They look at those charts every month and seethe.

>>719205370
>not even a 10

LMAO. Definition of generic

>>719205458
I played it for few months and it was fine as f2p. Even got the chinese dragon girl. Game was ok as a game but holy fuck was the story crap.

>>719205458
You can solo the toughest of bosses if you have the skills for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66awr0KuFT0

As for the quests, the game gives you pre-made units for them, so you can play through the quest without worrying about leveling up.

>>719205517
That's it? I guess HSR's issues are more glaring so it's probably a low-hanging fruit. These people are actually stupid. I feel sorry for the "normal" wuwa players.

>>719205347

Seriously, HSR was good until the end of belobog, it was all YAPYAP boring shit after that with a sprinkle of powercreep, hey its not like I didnt try hoyoturd games, its just that once you play WuWa you cant go back.

>>719202949
doesn't help how they nerfed the global challenge mode for this week's 40/40, CN had to deal with bleed stacks with 500k more HP when global doesn't

>>719205034
Learn to cope.

https://youtu.be/E5baFLs0y6U?feature=shared&t=176

>>719205370
3rd world poorfags and government sponsored korean bots. Show was a massive flop financially.

>>719205651
>if you have the skills for it.

Why not just play Elden Ring at this point? Mid-game.

>>719205785
Are you 14y old or something?

>>719196252

Penacony is a million times worse than space China. That shit finally made me quit the fucking game, what a pile of fuck.

>no one actually knows wuwa lore

That's when you know the game is mediocre.

>>719205812
Yes I did.

>>719192462 (OP)
>Why should anyone play [turn based game] when you could be playing [open world game]

>>719205624

10000% agree, story in 1.0 sucks ass, but 1.1 to today gets better and better, they fucking cooked.

You still have to get through 1.0 before you get the good stuff though... but at least they added flying to 1.0 area with today's patch so i guess that makes it... easier to digest for new players?

>>719205707
We feel more sorry for HSRcucks who suffer from sunk cost

>>719205448
>Wuwajeet
I don't know where this word even came from, you must be so buttmad that you had to coin this word just to insult me KEK

>>719205531
>>719205531

tell me you dont know imdb without telling me, anything above a 7 on imdb is good brother lol

hmmm what other anime has a similar grade... oh look at that.

anyway ive never watched solo levelling, im just here to destroy really bad arguments and you guys are making it so freaking easy

>>719206030
>easier to digest for new players?

Nah, new players will drop 1.0 story instantly.

>>719205991
Why should you play a bad game when you could be playing a good game?

>>719205751
Do you just take a shot at HSR whereever you can? Do you actually think anyone cares if Wuwa is better or worse than HSR? They're different genres. Why not spend your time comparing it to Genshin? For some reason I doubt it looks favourably to GI or you'd shit talk that game to death instead.

>>719206093
Only insecure wuwafags are bringing HSR up, though.

>>719206113
So IMDb is unreliable?

>>719192462 (OP)
Honkai: Star Rail is the better game. Wuthering Waves has a giant empty world that you never want to explore with no lore that connects or pays off. You literally just waste your time caring about any of it.

Where as HSR is a really good experience from start to finish. All of it matters, even the tedious little simulated universe bits. HSR also doesn't demand anything from you daily, but like 5 minutes to run your dailies.

>>719206113
Berserk(Anime) is mid though. All the good shit is in the manga.

>>719206249
It is.

>>719206234
It doesn't matter if HSR and Wuwa are different genres, because they're both gacha shit trying to market to gooners. Do you think people actually gives a fuck about a gacha being turn based or open world? It's all about essence, design, and waifus, something that Wuwa is far more superior compared to your homo trash honkai game

>>719205991
What about HSR vs GFL 2?

>>719206397
>gacha shit trying to market to gooners

Azur Lane exists

>>719192462 (OP)
I tried WuWa and it was pretty boring, just like Genshin.

>>719206424
>>719206442
They're not on the same level as Wuwa or HSR because they're developed with a limited budget while Wuwa is the top dog of gacha industry which hoyoshills are actively trying to dethrone

>>719206347
I agree, but the Kushan arc is so slow af bruh....

You guys are just mad you didn't get to play Genshin day 1 lmao, so you coped with WuWa.

You just had to be there.

It makes you think that content creators are talking shit about HSR while they only sing praises for Wuwa. Even tectone is shitting on HSR now kek

Bronya(s) RABU!

>>719206424
This is a better comparison, but HSR still mogs the fuck out of GFL2 since their story literally goes nowhere. GFL2 is increasingly trying to make it so you don't engage with their gameplay at all despite wanting you to waste so much time each day and during each Gunsmoke period. Don't even get me started on the costume gacha they just tried to throw into that shit on the sly. I will admit GFL2 has the more mature setting despite being more heavy on fanservice.

>>719206459
WuWa is only fun at the high level when you can start pushing the system to its max and sweat your ass off.

I don't play WuWa because I ran out of storage space. Too many games.

>>719192462 (OP)
why are you comparing 4 niggers in a row to genshin clone? played wusaars but quit recently. glad i dropped that turd. soulless story, soulless world/exploration, soulless community,

>>719206337
Is this real? Is HSR actually making more girls for (You) rather than just shoving fucking Firefly down your throat?

>>719206397
>D-doesn't count, here's my cope
Lol, wuwankek is so funny.

>>719206705
>soulless story
>soulless world
>soulless community
Oh, you mean HSR?

>>719206686
If I wanted to push a system and sweat my ass off I'd go back to playing Ninja Gaiden 2 on Master Ninja.

>>719206234

uh? its like my first comment about HSR, if you ask me its the better game of the Hoyoturds, im not taking shots.

ZZZ = hold 1 button to win, basically an idle game

Genshin = was good at release, its old now and dated.

HSR = had good potentiel, turn base is fun, I liked it at first... but they completely missed the boat on the lore, pacing, environment etc (we're in a fucking spaceship/train why are we yet again visiting a fucking chinese city, holy shit does the CCP mandate that in their game?) just fucking lost interest, its too bad it had potential.

I like to play my games and wuwa is closer to elden ring or an actual GAME. the fact that im not bored with the combat yet is insane to me, i was halfway through metaphor refantazio and i wanted it to end as soon as possible.

I dont want wuwa to end, it says a lot TO ME. its my preference stop getting angry over gacha guys, also stop spending lol F2P is all you need.

>>719206623
This is bad for you in two ways. First, it shows that you can't think for yourself and need content creators to form your opinion. Second, the content creators that are talking shit are obviously getting paid to do so. Really funny that they all simultaneously shut the fuck up when Amphoreus actually started cooking.

>>719206517
They didn't spend much money on writing or voice acting that's for sure.

I don't trust low-quality games with bad QA/Testing.

>>719206746
All in the latest patch. Not to mention more stuff with Castorice.

>>719206769
So when is Amphoreus gonna start cooking? Because last I saw it was 4 patches of nothing but you cocksucking Phaenon inbetween word salads.

>>719206553
The hilarious part is that 90% of wuwa shills are the same people crying about mixed toilet, worms, etc. When wuwa is the same shit. Game literally started with a shitty male banner and lion shota crap ruining rerolls.

>>719206424
Haven't played HSR for a year but GFL 2 can go from this....

>>719206769
>getting paid
Paid wuwa content creators are not allowed to talk bad on other games

>>719206870
Phainon's out of the story now. It's all on the Trailblazer.

Stop posting black tier asses

>>719206875
>GFL
>guns
>makes turn-based game

??? Why not a FUCKING SHOOTER GAME? YOU HAVE GUNS FFS

>>719206337
I haven't tried honkai star rail yet because I heard it's even worse than genshin impact in terms of just bombarding you with incredibly long dialogues.

>>719206875
to this where each last expansion drill stage plays differently if you choose to select all the buffs.
I actually auto/skip the punching bag gunsmoke mode and only stay for the former

Here's my current ranking as a normie who likes games and sometimes try gacha, i mostly try the coom and leave it behind if there's no game there...

1. wuwa : coom is mid but gameplay is chef kiss and presentation/story past 1.1 is superb, its my favorite gacha by far.

2. girls frontline 2, its not perfect but its coom potential is nice and xcom is fun. gameplay got boring quickly though.

3. nikke, literally no gameplay but the stories are nice

4. Horizon walker, maximum coom its literally porn, no idea about the story i skipped all of it. gameplay was fine.

5. hsr, same reason i stated before. good start, got extremely yappy

6. genshin : fun at release, theres better now and it looks like a kids game

7. zzz : coom looking characters but thats about it, story is ABYSMAL fucking TV surfing crap that idc if they removed it was the worst, the world is sooooooo boring and omg i literally fell asleep. Theres no combat, just hold 1 button for the game to load an mp4 of flashy animations. Decent nsfw mods though which would be my only reason to play it.

I've heard 0 mentions/terms related to lore/world-building on WuWa.

You might as well play Roblox since everything does not connect

>>719207017
Nah Genshin is way worse with that.

>>719192462 (OP)
WuWa doesn't have Kafka.
Also it's open world slop.

>>719207147
There IS NO FUCKING WAY people actually like WuWa story. You HAVE TO BE JOKING. I get it if you like the combat, but the dialogue is fucking laughable.

>>719207161
Because story is laughably shit. It's some cultivation web novel tier.

>>719192462 (OP)
I'll play ZZZ instead

>>719207235
Guy who liked it also liked Solo Leveling. Should tell you everything.

>>719207215
And HSR doesn't have Changli or Carthy or Rinascita or Zani


Your point?

>>719207161
Because jeet can't read

>>719207161
Why do you need to know about lore or world building? Didn't you jear that it's better than HSR? What other reasons do you need? I'm sure they can link you a CC saying that wuwa good so you should definitely play it!!

>>719207215
Neither does HSR since she was kicked to the curb never to be seen again, save a line here and there to tell you she's your mother-figure and not your waifu.

>>719200009
It's kind of hard to explain. In general when the Archon equivalents like Jinhsi and Cartethyia get released a lot of stuff gets completely melted by them. C0R1 Cartethyia can solo a majority of everything in the game with C2 being completely ridiculous (On top of easily attainable with corals). Back during Jinzhou Jinhsi completely dominated everything due to her nuke dealing 3x as much as anyone could deal at the time. Despite all this the game hasn't really made anything that much more difficult in the overworld content and the Tower of Adversity (Spiral Abyss) has been fairly balanced overall.

As the patches have went on characters like Yinlin, Changli, Encore, Sephiroth, and XLY have become harder to use seriously and are showing their age in the higher-end content or with specific enemy types due to not being able to crowd control or do bursts of damage as effectively but you can still use them fairly well, and Changli in particular got support in the form of Lupa. A lot of the 4*s have also continued to stay solid like Sanhua, Danjin, Mortefi, and Yuanwu since their outro buffs are so good or their RL/Skills are solid for certain characters. One of the earliest combos (Jiyan/Mortefi) is still viable in the Whimpering Wastes endgame content.

The main power creep is in the form of Echo sets as many of the old 4*s simply aren't worth using due to the Nightmares giving you passive damage buffs just for being slotted in rather than used, the newer set buffs are just way better, and many new sets are tailored to specific characters. They're also experimenting with multi-set sets now.

Another issue presenting itself is that they're making a lot of character-specific 5* supports like Lupa, Iuno, Zhezhi (Who found use later with Carlotta), and Phoebe. This leads to certain characters being less effective (Though still usable) unless you have certain team loadouts. 5* weapons are also borderline mandatory so you have to regularly pull on weapon banners.

>>719206889

this hoyo dude literally admitted he was not allowed to play wuwa per his hoyoshill contract... you got the games mixed up :

https://youtu.be/WFkzZ9vpYME

you think wuwa the underdog is the one paying CCs to lie? really? not hoyo the company who is worth multibillion? lmao wake up.

https://youtu.be/WFkzZ9vpYME

>>719206875
to this where each last expansion drill stage plays differently if you choose to select all the buffs.
I auto/skip the punching bag gunsmoke mode and only stay for the former

>>719207398
WuWa is a Tencent proxy

What's a Tacet Discord?

>play
Gachaniggers are hilarious.

>>719207398
>Admitting to being a paid shill
Why would anyone listen to this retard?

>>719207339
I have no idea who any of those characters are beyond vague recollections of their appearances.
>>719207371
That's still more than WuWa got.

>>719207528
Exactly, world-building/lore presentation is a top priority to me. I know it's not a real game.

>>719207235
>There IS NO FUCKING WAY people actually like WuWa story. You HAVE TO BE JOKING. I get it if you like the combat, but the dialogue is fucking laughable.

https://youtu.be/hHwXIkfBtV4?t=5388

all these CC's, they're such good actor T_T fake crying because the stories are so bad lmao

>>719207371
She got revived in the current meta by the newest character, so you can see her every day if you want or pull her right now

>>719207398
>post link
>mihomo pays cc to NOT play Wuwa

LMAO

I love wasting my time here

>>719207665
>A CC cried therefore the story is good.
I can't with these retards.

At least Wuwa CCs don't seem like they're forced to enjoy the game.

>>719207709
Ok and when does she get to get any story content again? Oh wait, probably never save when they kill her off and her last words are that she hopes you and Firefly are happy together.

>>719207927
She was in 3.0

>this thread
Hilarious to see HSRcucks malding all over Wuwa

>>719196882
It looks like pretty much the same as how Genshin does things. I do like how the MC here actually speaks though.

>>719207981
Yeah and that was just a few lines of dialogue. Also reminder she was supposed to get an alt but it got scrapped.

>>719207927
Like Herta? Like Alice from genshin?

Lore and world-building are essential, unlike WuWa's. WuWa does not have a ROADMAP on day 1. They are just winging it as it goes.

Here's a roadmap 4 years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAlKhARUcoY

>finally kafka cameo
>few lines
>it's not even voiced
BWAHAHAHAHAHA

HSR are cucks

>>719208209
>it's not even voiced
Was voiced for me.

>>719207814

what i cant is retard who think walls of text and turboyapping in Hoyo games are good stories... heres the secret sauce folks.

You need good writting and good presentation...

You know Demon Slayer's story actually fucking sucks right? its lore is terrible, if you even start to analyse any of the bullshit in that show it falls appart instantly...

But do you know why it's good? the presentation makes it all work... the animation the music the camera work the voice acting.

I know it's hard to comprehend... but you're playing an interactive media format, you're not reading a book.

You SHOULD expect more than black text on a white screen.

https://youtu.be/BSTqNkB5tRc

>>719208209
She's voiced in JP.
Don't tell me you use EN, she sounds horrible in EN.

>>719208209
EN cuck…

ONE HOUR LEFT UNTIL 2.6 KINO

>Dubfag
begone subhman

>>719205869
Nah. Space China made me quit when the game released. Took 2 years for me to come back. I almost quit again after they forced me back to fucking space china again for the Werewolf storyline. Dream roaring 20s was far less egregious.

>>719208209
>Anti-HSR is a ENcuck
LMAOOOO

>EN
>Solo leveling

Yeah, I'm fucking done. I'm tired.

>>719208292
Okay, but nothing of what happened there really matters or impacts the overall story in anyway. Rover fucks off to Rinascita right after that and all of it was a gigantic waste of time. It's meaningless style over substance slop with no backbone or deeper message, immediately dooming it to the dustbin to be forgotten.

This proves that Honkai star rail are bunch of cucks who eats everything Da Wei shits at them and then blame wuwa for any mishaps they have

hsr killed my dog

>>719208370

holy shit i cant wait... :O


alright ima go walk the dog while i wait for the patch, ill you see cucks later.

here's more bad story segment from the early 1.1

https://streamable.com/tb3i0r

As someone who doesn't play any gacha, this odd rivalry has put me off from ever trying it. You guys are more mentally ill than mmo players.

>>719192462 (OP)
I haven't liked HSR in a while, but I've been playing just to E6R1 Saber. Only missing her light cone now...

>>719196397
hoyoslop and wuwa/pgr are the only gacha with passable gameplay. Who the fuck waste time playing chibishit and .jpg collectors when all their value is online and free.

>>719208775
It is literally, LITERALLY only WuWafags that have this obsession with hoyo games

WuWa is fundamentally a game that cannot stand on its own and be appreciated for its own merits. It only exists because Genshin exists. It only gets praise in relation to Genshin and not for its own virtues. The fact WuWa players are still this insecure this many patches and versions deep into the game speaks volumes louder than any post I can make about the subject.

>>719208651

Bro you can always go back to her, and the blackshores are mentionned in 2.0 story... You know we have WIVES to gather right?! i mean at least we know Shorekeeper is safe at home if we're bored of the new girls.

But honestly sure, some characters just like with many gachas are sometimes left behind... i think they're doing a good with with that now though... i mean look at carthetia, shes been relevant from 2.0 to 2.6+ (the latest teaser show her in a story segment for 2.7? potentially)

side note can you guys remind me of what other MOBILE GAMES has raytracing?

https://streamable.com/oep96c

^^ this is on medium btw, my gpu is getting old

>>719208825
Genshin changed the landscape. Be thankful. Or else I'd be playing Azur Lane to this day.

>>719208924
>side note can you guys remind me of what other MOBILE GAMES has raytracing?
https://youtu.be/JvqFkJqHj5U

>>719208852
It's more like the opposite. Honkeks and genshitters can't stop talking about Wuwa because of their inferiority complex

>WuWa is fundamentally a game that cannot stand on its own and be appreciated for its own merits. It only exists because Genshin exists

>Genshin is fundamentally a game that cannot stand on its own and be appreciated for its own merits. It only exists because Zelda breath of the wild exists.

imagine using the copy-cat argument about CHINESE GAMES lmao

alright ill go walk the dog for real now, stop giving me such easy arguments to country i really need to go.

>>719209223
PGR copied Hi3rd though.

>>719207310
When did Eula come to ZZZ?

>>719209325
PGR copied DMC. Nobody gives a shit about honkai games except hoyoturds themselves

>>719208924
Yeah Cartethya kinda starting to feel like THE canon waifu with how she keeps sticking around. If she still comes with us when we leave Rome it'll be confirmed. Then again, I have no doubt that Chisa is gonna be shilled the everloving fuck out.

>>719209038
I cannot imagine playing any gacha prior to HI3.

>>719209139
WuWa is never brought up in HSR or Genshin threads unless it's a WuWatard shilling it.

>>719209223
Genshin has managed to become its own thing entirely despite being a clone initially. Something Wuthering Waves has only started succeeding in recently. I hope that one day it can really fully step out of Hoyo's shadow, because as much as I shit on it just now, it does have potential.

>>719208203
Not even Mihoyo cares about the roadmap Anon
Otherwise we would have gotten Tsaritsa this year

>>719209558
Show me WuWa's. Oh wait, they're not that confident on their game in the future.

>>719209139
This whole thread started because a Wuwa tard is trying to compare HSR to Wuwa when they ain't the same type of game.

>>719209739
Genshin team isn't confident either which is why they had to delay Snezhnaya to 2026

>>719209750
I mean it started with someone asking why to play HSR when you could be playing WuWa, while posting a character from HSR who mogs both upcoming WuWa characters. So I guess?

>>719209531
WuWa = NTE = Azur Promilia

Too many genshin clones. Where's my car racing games?

>>719209750
And hoyoturds can't make a proper retort that their game is more fun than WuWa.

>>719192462 (OP)
the only things going for gachas are the anime girls, and their strange tendency to suck in and trap the few decent writers left in asia's gaming industry
gameplay? go play nioh 2, saga scarlet grace, dmc, xcom, monster hunter, ys, library of ruina, troubleshooter, whatever, and you'll have a far better time
anyone can look up the girls to see which game's selection is more to their liking, so how's the story of both games?

>>719195272
I can't understand what is going on. I'm too old for this shit

>>719209865
Why would you even bring up wuwa when talking about HSR? Not even the same type of game. Did Genshit mog WuWa so hard that the WuWatards have to shift to fighting HSR instead?

>>719209828
So Inazuma/Sumeru/Fontaine/Natlan does not count?

>>719209981
I dunno I just said what the OP did

>>719209935
They are not the same type of game. Compareing them is stupid. Once the WuWa devs make a turn based RPG then I would understand. until then the only correct answer for OPs question is "Because they don't want to play a action gacha.".

>>719209981
Actually Wuwa mogged genshit so hard that it had to look for a better opponent

>>719209531

hey fair enough mah dude, im just poking fun people seem to forget what genshin was based on when it was revealed lol

>>719210061
Says the tard that invades Hoyo threads just to say Wuwa is better.

>>719209828
You seem to know more about genshin's world but not wuwa lmao. WuWa is a slop.

>>719209874
Coming soon. Too bad it's also a BoTW clone.

fair enough im a kurobot apparently but there was no reason to bring hsr, im just excited to play 2.6 and saw a wuwa thread to pass the time

>>719210094
I played botw 1 & 2. Loved genshin.

Wuwa? It felt off, it felt "fake". No soul.

>>719210124
No one is pretending that Wuwa's lore is good
When has Genshin lore ever paid off? Never
It's cool in theory but when they actually bring it on Archon Quests they make it gay and lame

10 MINUTES TO KINO

>>719210247
>When has Genshin lore ever paid off? Never
We just had 5 year old Bennett and Stanley lore pay off.

>>719210247
>never

Your Alice? Shades?

>>719210270
LETS FUCKING GOOO

I need to pull for shorekeeper lol wish me luck

>>719210309
1 (ONE) character after 5 years is an exception Anon
And they still blueballed everyone with Mare Jivari shit

>>719210402
>never
>except this one oops i made an error

I accept your loss

Genshin's story is so fucking garbage that it took developers FIVE FUCKING YEARS to realize that they should have focused on the lore and not random irrelevant NPCs and stupid fucking food mentions every sentence.

>>719210402
>1 (ONE) character after 5 years
There has been more, I only brought up the most recent. And in Genshin even the UI is something that will pay off.

>>719210247
>No one is pretending that Wuwa's lore is good

Actually, i think the lore is pretty good. It was just delivered extremely poorly in 1.0, and since its the foundation of the whole universe it kinda sucked at first.

ill admit genshin did a better job sucking you in to its world, but for me wuwa did a better job keeping me there.

But like to your point, most people didnt realize that Cartethyia was overclocking here because the lore was badly explained lmao

https://youtu.be/nejftBKjKOI

IT'S UP!!!!!!!!!!

>>719210872
It's time to Wu some Wa

>>719204847
Did WuWa really improve in 2.X or it's just a meme? I tried it on release but goddamn the main story and lore are fucking shit it makes genshin's crappy story a masterpiece.
While the gameplay is better than genshin in most aspects, exploring the world was kinda dull.

>>719210872
YOUR ASS

So uh, Genshin got a skip function yet?

>>719210896
You get a new wife every patch (Before you dump her the following patch) and the main character has "aura". If that doesn't interest you then no.

New BP weapons

>>719203579
you know... all these videos from wuwafags shitting on genshin being lazy remind me of genshinfags shitting of fgo devs being lazy.
In the end, I gotta clap mihoyo and lasengle(dw before) geting the money from otakus with low effort.

>>719192462 (OP)
>posting HSR to shill Wuwa

That's a bold strategy cotton, we'll see if it pays off.

WE CAN NOW FLY IN THE OLD AREAS!!!!!!!!!

>>719210685
Only way there'll ever be lore pay-off would be if Shades aren't NPCs but even then they'll just be used to shill whatever the new Celestia characters are

>>719200563
Are you talking about the glider?
Outside of story sections, you're never forced to use it

>>719211093
Honkai Star Rail doesn't even have a jump function KEK

>>719211025
Difference is FGO is super fucking lazy in every aspect possible. It's lives entirely on the popularity of Fate and is now it's only source of new Fate related lore. The game ain't remotely entertaining to play in the slightest.

>>719205517
hsr ate good this month because of the fgo collab. Without it they would have made only 10m at most.

>>719210896
The story figured out what the hell it was doing in 1.1 and has been progressively getting better since. It's establishing terms, concepts, and things in detail while not overloading you with a million terms, and then using them to execute high-level concepts like with Septimont's story. If you're someone who takes issue with characters glazing Rover then you probably won't like it though, but even with that they've toned it down since all of Septimont's content so far has been Rover delegating things or actively giving up the MC slot to have others take the reins and shine as characters.

In terms of area design Mt. Huanglong was alright and the Black Shores was simply a small area. When it comes to Rinascita it's designed mostly fine, the main issue with it is that they hadn't figured out how to address the elephant in the room that is the addition of flying so they got rid of most random chests and puzzles and slapped chest groups everywhere and very specific puzzles while letting you waypoint to them which took away a lot of the exploratory aspects of the game. As the maps went on Avinoleum took advantage of flight and gravity in a fun way while putting chests everywhere, then Septimont understood that you can have normal puzzles and chests everywhere without grouping it up so much and taking flight into account. They're starting to understand how to use flight, and I think they're going to get to a point where Jinzhou design will meet Rinascita design for the New Federation which is going to be interesting.

>>719210685
Only way there'll ever be lore pay-off would be if Shades are NPCs but even then they'll just be used to shill whatever the new Celestia characters are

>>719211135
Honkai Star Rail is a turned based RPG.
It's like saying the tetris L block can't play Basket ball for the Lakers.

And we're off to gather wives, see y'all cucks

>>719207017
nono
HSR at least has a skip button now
genshin will reach it's 5 year and there is still no skip button

Isn't it funny how the release of Wuthering Waves made Mihoyo completely fuck up the endgame modes of their big three games for literally no reason?

tried wuwa last month and thought it was pretty cool, got a lucky shorekeeper in 5 rolls too
ended up uninstalling last week because i think it's just too similar to genshin, and i don't have time for another gacha
i might come back at some point tho, who knows

>>719210896

im a wuwa shill but im not joking, skip all the quests until you get to the most animated scenes and just watch those, you will miss the context but its not too bad, last quest of 1.0 is kinda good.

after that you can start to pay attention, but there's always a skip button for the side quests.

dont worry you'll piece together the lore that you missed little by little, 1.3 story is good and kinda does a fine recap anyway.

>>719211276
What kind of comparison is that?
If hoyo wasn't lazy, they could've implemented jump button, but they wouldn't because it takes money to do it

>>719211342
>end game modes
Care to elaborate what their end game modes ever were? Genshin has a tower and dream book thing. HSR has it's three separate challenges and the simulations and ZZZ has the hollow investigation and tower. And that's pretty much been what it's always been.

Not reading all of that. Gonna wing it as usual.

>>719192462 (OP)
made for BWC

>>719211450
A Jump button to do what? Undermine the puzzles? They add new contextualized functions to each area you visit. The game was never designed around a jump button and probably never will.

>>719211539
>SEA shill can't read
No wonder you dropped genshin KEEEEEK

>>719208203
>They are just winging it as it goes.
to be fair, genshin is doing that now with the new region that was not even mentioned in the video you posted.

>>719211653
You seem upset I left your circle, Anon.

>>719192462 (OP)
Might as well actually finish TOTK instead

>>719211524
Genshin added the Stygian whatever it's called which is made exclusively for whales. It's just boss rushes that want you to fight bosses with highly detrimental gimmicks and 3x as much as Spiral Abyss boss health to earn one or two rerolls on an artifact and like one pull plus some expiring weapon skins. They're also specifically designed around certain team compositions and usually the latest character releases on top of it.

The Imaginarium Theater and Spiral Abyss are significantly worse than they ever were.
The IT now requires you to deal with specific gimmicks for the Natlan bosses or even the Fontaine bosses while also giving them a lot of health, and the elemental buffs are way more toned down than they ever worse when they first added them. It's just made the entire experience worse and less fun with every patch.
The Spiral Abyss since around the middle of Fontaine has had local legends as basic floor encounters who you have to kill after multiple waves in under a minute in addition to the Natlan gimmick bosses that require you to have specific team comps to even allow the boss to take normal damage. The recent ones have had the Cryo mech from Natlan that make Escoffier or Skirk mandatory to do basically anything outside of swirling Cryo with Kazuha.

SHORYUUKEN!!!!

>>719211761
that's a good idea
im gonna go play that too

>>719211653
Bitch I read all that and I still don't think I understand what any of that shit means.
It think it's use heavy attack to gain energy. Use switch skills and spend energy to gain stacks. Spend stacks to get 7s of a buff. End buff early by using ultimate.

While I don't think HSR story is amazing, it is in my opinion the best story out of all the mihoyo games.

>>719192462 (OP)
Okayu?
https://youtu.be/HOmS6Kn0bn8

>>719211823
>The Imaginarium Theater and Spiral Abyss are significantly worse than they ever were.
No they aren't. I stopped playing for several years after they added the theater and came back to find nothing about it actually changed since it was always about rotating gimmicks.
The tower getting new enemy types weaved in every season isn't anything new or different then what it was when the game released.

>>719210896
They fixed everything.

>>719211724
Go back, please

>>719195074
>monster skills are actually cool
This one seems kind of weird to me. I get that echoes are somehow story related (don't ask me to explain the story) but honestly the mechanic of transforming into or summoning monsters seems more like it would be a character mechanic for a summoner archetype, rather than a fundamental aspect of the combat for the entire game.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK I ALWAYS LOSE THE 50/50

ez 20 pulls for the wife, won the 50/50

>>719195272
Is this optimal play? Like legitimate question and not rhetorical. As far as I know, some characters try to build up something with the forte gauge, and some buffs get dropped when swapping, so while it looks interesting, and probably allows for more player expression and engagement, does it actually improve performance?

>>719212223

sorry bro :(

>>719209096
What the hell there's PS exclusive graphics in this too?

>>719212083
>No they aren't.
They are. With the IT the enemies are stronger, the gimmicks are weaker (When the elemental buffs were first added in you could massacre everything with just the effects popping off, now they're just defense debuffs or maybe one weak attack at best), and you have to deal with gimmicks if you want the stars at all. If you don't care about stars then it's still harder. I have a relative who could barely clear it back then and struggles massively now, while I went from 10 starring everything every single time to missing a star or two on a boss, or only beating a boss by 1 second the past few resets now.

With the Spiral Abyss they changed enemies out, yes, but Local Legends are now treated as common enemies part of normal floors and they're actively increasing HP bloat to unbelievable degrees. There was one graph I saw that showed how it's been spiking up and up with each patch but here's a quick example I found on Google. That's not even taking into account that some of the new bosses are actual gimmick checks like the Xilonen/Mavuika/Kachina mech towers or the Cryo mech that you have to freeze or you deal no damage.

>>719194674
>HSR
>Interesting story
Maybe before 3.x.

>>719212367

its efficient but probably not? i doubt he recharged his concerto every time, i think the showcase here was to keep the enemy airborn? lol

>>719195272
Man genshin looks like baby shit compared to this. Can't believe people still insist that trash has good combat.

Before you seethe I quit both.

Bwos................ Why am I so goddamn unlucky........ I haven't won a 50/50 in a while.........................

I guess I'll save for Iuno......... I do want an electro DPS team since I don't have one, and I'm not interested in building XLY.

>>719212636
>>719212774
Because you play Genshin Impact

>>719212493
>they changed the numbers
They also buffed characters stats. It's called balancing man. Nothing actually changed about those features. The Tower and Dream aren't a completely different beasts than it originally was.
They are the exact same thing they just added the current patches content onto them like every gacha has ever done.

>>719212627
I mean, the combat is trying to accomplish different things in the different games. WuWa is more like traditional action games, similar to HI3 or ZZZ, where character combos and quick timing dodges are important. Genshin was aiming more for elemental reactions, based on watered-down BotW chemistry where you build up to big payoffs, although I don't know how much that has changed in current Genshin since I haven't played pass Inazuma.

>>719212898
>They also buffed characters stats.
Sure, but now you're required to have more specific and modern team compositions to succeed and play more into the gimmicks than ever before. We're also not increasing in damage exponentially, they're seeing Neuvilette and Mavuika and balancing things around their existence while making it harder for others to deal with stuff.

>>719210896
The story went from being like a 2/10 to being a 5/10. So yes a massive improvement but still garbage.

>>719211342
What's wrong with ZZZ endgame? Deadass is pretty fun. You don't have to go for kills...

>>719212529
I dunno man. The only times I hated the story of HSR was when I was stuck on the fucking Luofu.
Frost planet fighting for survival and to reconnect with the universe was cool. Bitching song too. Roaring 20s cartoon world about apathy and fighting to make your dreams come true was good. Nice song to cap it off. And finally a story about endless pursuit of knowledge leading to not only self destruction but possible destruction of others.

While Wuwa had...... you are the chosen one and you must stop the invading techno aliens or whatever. God Wuwa bored me to fucking tears.

>>719213045
If you are new player you would have a more modern team comp because that's what's on the banner. if you are a old player you would have a modern team comp because you were still playing. If you are returning character you have so much resources and content to comb through that you would be at a better off junction than even the new player to getting back up to speed. I don't see the issue.

>>719213271
All I will say is that 3.x was so bad Mihoyo had to dogeza and give us a skip button when not even genshin has one.

>>719213271
Even the Luofu part at least had some interesting characters, and I liked the ghost hunting side story even if that's not actually the main story. The China wank in WuWa not only had a shitty story filled with technobabble and things I couldn't care less about, but the characters all had the personality of cardboard.

>>719213407
The problem is that all of this content used to be fair more laidback and not as restrictive. Now it's far more frustrating due to the high HP values and gimmicks along with forcing the player to deal with more specific teams.

Feels strange being able to fly in the area.

>>719213643
Well yeah. 3.x is when they made you step back onto the fucking Luofu for a Werewolf prison break storyline. Which everyone fucking hates the Luofu.

>>719214124
You're thinking of 2.6.

3.0 is the start of Amphoreus and got shitposted so badly they neutered the puzzles/combat (but not bloated story lel) for 3 patches until finally giving us skip.

>>719213857
The problem I had with Luofu is the exact same problem I have with WuWa. I hate Techno China and Chinese words and nouns. Luofu was rife with that shit and WuWa's entire game is nothing but that. Took me 2 decades to start remembering Japanese names and nouns.
>>719213860
Well no shit. Because it was implemented in the start the game. It was laid back because you didn't have shit to work with.

>>719214323
>It was laid back because you didn't have shit to work with.
It was laid back until Fontaine. Even during Sumeru simply Blooming at all would massacre enemies. Now you have to do tons of buffing and rotations just to deal with basic garbage.

>>719213952
If i didn't know you shill the shit out of WuWa I would have immediately thought you posted a Genshin screenshot of Liyue.

>>719212493
holy bloat

Isn't HSR's story so bad now that the devs caved in and finally added a skip button?

I dont really like the game but my dick likes it a lot.

>>719214323
>I hate Techno China and Chinese words and nouns.
I don't like the dumb made up words and stuff either, but they would do this even without Chinese dressings. What I don't like about either games approach to their Chinese areas is that it's heavily influence by "Chinese philosophy" and Chinese philosophy according to these two games are when your story resolves around abstract concepts of society and people act like disinterested tools of history rather than personally invested individuals with emotions.

Compare the emotional arc of the Belobog story to Luofo, or anything in WuWa and it's night and day.

>Wuwa's story is shit
>Why?
>Uuuuuuuh...w-waifu collector?

>>719215121
Yes retard

Done.

>>719214412
You absolutely did not play some of the earlier abyss rotations. There were some that were way worse than anything we've seen lately.

Wuthering's just alright, but only just. It's still chinese gacha slop that exists to break your wallet into pieces until nothing is left.
>Just do 80 rolls bro
>just do 80 rolls again for the weapon too bro
Nah I'm alright. Solo'd the game as the Male MC up till the giant purple eye exploded and lost interest. Boring chinese slop, the videogame.
Companies like this are coming from a sewer pipe somewhere and there's just dozens of them and they are all the same brazenly ripping each other off. Garbage. Just absolute garbage. Respect your time and avoid this. Or at the very least never spend on it if you absolutely have to try it.

>>719215329
I've been playing since the Chasm so I've experienced some of the harder ones, but not stuff before that. My point is that a lot of stuff now is far worse than before due to Local Legends being part of the "easy" floors, gimmick bosses that straight up cannot be dealt with without dealing with their gimmick (The bird, the flower, the paint girl, the Suanni, and the two mechs as basic examples), and now there's multiple waves of enemies before the boss fight even begins instead of just starting with the boss like before.

>>719213271
I hated Loufu too, but even then it could not prepare me for the snoozefest of incomprehensible garbage that was Penacony

>>719215558
Pretty sure we used to have the elemental cubes in Abyss at some point so yes having to deal with gimmick bosses is a thing yes. None of those bosses you mention are difficult to deal with.

>>719215021
True but when it's made up French, German, or Japanese it's somehow far easier to remember and doesn't sound like shit. I don't care how man Xs and Zh's you fill your word with. I'm not going to fucking internalize a single fucking thing you said.

>>719215562
Luofu made me quit the fucking game. TWICE. Only reason I stopped playing during Penacony was because I ran out of shit to do so I took a few month brake until new shit was available.

>>719215662
>None of those bosses you mention are difficult to deal with.
What?
>Bird requires you to sit with a thumb up your ass breaking its Pyro summons until it finally gets grounded, and you have to kill it in that first stun or you can never meet the time requirements.
>The flower outright requires Burning or two Natlan characters wailing on it to damage it at all.
>The paint girl requires at least two Pyro characters if you want to deplete her clones in time but after that she's easy.
>The Suanni is a damage sponge that wastes your time for 10+ seconds if you don't have a Cryo character on your team.
>The pillar mech makes Xilonen, Mavuika, Kachina, Citlali, Chasca, or Ororon mandatory as you are required to be on the pillars to break its shield and you have to reach both pillars in a few seconds meaning realistically only those characters can do so otherwise you deal no damage at all.
>The Cryo mech makes it mandatory that you have two Cryo characters on your team spamming Cryo otherwise it takes no damage at all.
>If you do not deal with these gimmicks your damage is 1/5th of what it normally is meaning you need specific teams to do so.
>You are also contending with HP sponges on every single floor that you have to deal with separate from these gimmicks.
Like I said, I used to be able to be carefree with these things. Now I either bring Escoffier/Skirk or Mavuika/Kino or I likely don't clear stuff in time. With the IT it doesn't matter what team I use, it's absolutely not as easy or carefree as it used to be, especially when the Geo teams pop up. I also have a bunch of kitted Geo characters so it's not even that.

>>719215527

they pray on retards like you though, you dont need the weapon, you dont need to do endgame, just have fun with the waifus and clear the main story. You can literally have all the wives as F2P just dont fall for the big number better its not PVP.

You literally dont need any character to clear story content.

just dont be autistic

>>719215562
Penacony has the ingredients for a good story, but suffers from too many scenes of characters standing around talking instead of actually doing stuff. Which is a really poor use of a literal dream setting where anything is possible. And don't get me started with Acheron. Any scene with her in it was going to be endless babble of pointless things.

The story is also needlessly complicated in my opinion. Characters just have to be playing 5D chess for a story that ultimate revolves itself by hitting a big boss hard enough until he learns his lesson. I don't know what happened after Belobog, but they can't write a straightforward story with a satisfying emotional payoff.

I still ultimately liked it because of the setting and music and some of the characters, but there's a better version of the story that exists by simplifying it.

>>719216162
I've clearly hurt your feelings, I've never spent money on this game. Didn't read the rest of your post. KYS instead faggot.
>le retard hurt me fee fees and insulted my lottery ticket videogame
Yeah go fuck yourself cunt.

>>719215221
Still haven't done this because everytime I check middle one is designed around electro and havoc characters which I don't have, so I don't think I can clear it. Best I could do is level Havoc Rover I guess.

Kuro and WuWa outdid themselves yet again.

>>719217037
Yeah, HSR truly would never

Goddamn, she's tough.

Still haven't cleared level 6. Boss does that annoying Midir beam spaz.

>>719215021
I played WuWa for 30 hours. The Luofu I hate so fucking much is better than those 30 hours I wasted listen to that shit.

Show me some in-game toes. The best gacha game is the one with the best feet.

>>719217725
Thanks for your account.

Sure. Wish me luck

>>719217978
All right show me some WuWa toes.

All my mods except Lupa broken...

>>719218537
Same.
I had to launch the game in disgusting vanilla.

pretty neat

I’m currently downloading WuWa because it looks like it has actual hags compared to Genshin. Is it possible to have a good team in WuWa of all titty monsters?

>>719218920
Nope sorry, plant loli is mandatory. Little girls win again.

>>719218920
There are like 3+ mommies

FUCK YOU PIECE OF FUCKING FLYING PIECE OF SHIT HOW DO YOU LIKE A DRAGON IN YOUR FUCKING THROAT YOU PIECE OF TRASH

Rot in hell, please thankies.

Why this game thread only got so many replies when it mention hoyo in OP and died down fast once the tripfag start blogposting?

That took a while, lel.

>>719219572
Dunno. Why doesn't HSR ever get any threads on /v/?

>>719219668
Dunno, I don't play or discuss them.

Feebs......................................

Time to do the quest now. :3c

>>719219572
Because no one is actually playing it, it's just a bait thread for genshit shitposters.
Every genshit thread gets instantly deleted by jannies, so they can't shitpost about it anymore, genshit used to get daily "genshin killer thread" since 2020 notice none of them exist anymore now?
meanwhile Wushit threads are basically ads for this trash game, so they never get deleted a perfect place for these trash to linger.

Out of the holograms though, I think the dragon is the hardest I've encountered.

>>719219460
>>719219516
>>719219773
>>719219932
Why are you posting this? How do you expect other people to engage with these posts? You're just dumping random gameplay pictures with one sentence blogging.

>>719220256
But I'm sure it's okay when I do this in Genshin or ZZZ threads.

>>719220307
No I don't think this type of post would be acceptable in any thread.

>>719220256
Its his job, he's been doing it for more than a year.

>>719220356
That sounds like a (You) problem.

>>719208816
Archer has a wholesome e4 art

>>719219092
Nice I can work with this

>>719220810
Yes

>>719219572
Because the players are only interested in pretending their taste are superior by tearing down more popular games. They aren't interested in talking about the game like other gacha threads on /v/, shin threads are dead as fuck every time. The only way they ever get any activity is when they start shitting on other games. Should tell you enough about the game if that is the type of playerbase it attracts.

>>719220568
Isn't this just that one area from Natlan

>>719213271
Finally an amphorius enjoyer like me. I don't know why it's so bashed, every character was interesting and nicely bounced off with the others. The original chrysos heir crew wasn't suddenly introduced for their banners but were already part of the story before. Guess am just a sucker for greek death prophecies. I must say the current pinkhaired chick is like fraudfly in term of shilling and interest.

>>719223236
You mean Castorice?
She's literally a random Chrysos Heir and she gets an entire year of gameplay to herself
She gets 3 supports throughout the year for her meanwhile Acheron only got a singular fox faggot several patches after her banner

Is your game actually good, Wuwagods?

>>719223616
It's very fun, yeah.

>>719223470
No no Castorice was fine, she had a strange marketing during her banner trying to paint her as a cute waifu 4u while she's friendly in the story but has her own problems with her sisters and not being able to touch anyone. I meant Cyrene the hsr expie, we finish a gruelling Phainon story where he has to repeat the cycle until a hero (us) comes and it ends with some dating substory with this little cunt.

>>719223616
Put your trip back seamonkey

The new area is raping my fps
wtf Kuro, optimize your games so my 10 year old pc can run them.

>>719223809
I don't live in Canada doe

>>719223836
Well, that explains why they introduced FSR3. I haven't been to the new area yet. Currently scanlating this:

>>719219572
Same reason why only ff14fags can get threads without being deleted if they post crying yoship

maybe if you give me 10000 rolls then I might

>>719223809
No, Castorice is not fine, with how important Castorice is for gameplay you'd think she'd be the main face of the planet but no, she's just a minor side character
The FACE OF THE GAME was originally just a Castorice support (But now they made her a worthless DPS that becomes Castorice's support with Eidolons/Lightcone)

>>719223616
>Top seller
>Gacha
I guess it's a much anticipated banner?

>>719204620
>and devs actually listen.
Holy kek this is literally a CC
>hello expedition 33 fags I play your popular game too
Desperate

>>719223809
Retard

>>719224010
Shin is that coward, he also removes his trip when he needs to shit on some mihoyo game so he can still larp as a fellow ally of those

>>719224084
meds

>>719223961
Isn't Goth March also banking on hp drain? I don't really care for her I'll be honest, or the meta in general. Tribbie for me is a worse offender because her and her e1 can make anything work

Someone should make another thread. I haven't started the quest yet.

>>719223961
Yeah Castorice was a shitty forced waifubait who turned out to be Temu firefly. The fact that they are doubling down on her meta just because she's the anniversary character, up to and including sabotaging March for her, it's asinine.

>>719192462 (OP)
Because I find wuwa boring, I unironically prefer GI and wuwafags made me play that instead (if your game threads is always about shitting on the competition that means your game is trash)

>>719192462 (OP)
>Only way for a wuwa thread to reach bump limit is by using mihoyo
Haha...

>>719224667
It's way worse with ZZZ switch anby. When zzz was announced Nicole and billy were clearly the most remembered faces, yet they pretend Anby is more popular than Nico to use her boring face as the games icon. They also forced her in some patch, and she even have clones.
Fun fact is that taptap voters showed Anby wasn't popular at all

>>719225137
Meanwhile March 7th is the top 3 popularity wise for HSR according to a recent Chink poll with over 1 million votes across several games

rover smells

like sunflowers and love

>>719225030
now he's gonna spam HSR pics to drum discussions up (not about his game). I really do hope he gets paid for this otherwise it's more pathetic than steamcharts posters

>>719225425
March really is a surprise. I expected some paimon bis as our MC's mouthpiece but she's a good character on her own with just the right amount of kindness and stoopid

>>719214772
>>719206628
>>719205751
thugbait

>>719206030
as a newfag which story act is 1.1 and beyond?

>>719226089
1.0 is the entirety of Jinzhou up until you beat the Threnodian.
1.1 is Mt. Huanglong. As soon as you go on a boat with Changli you're in it.
1.3 is the Black Shores.
2.0 is Rinascita.
2.3 was Avinoleum.
2.4 was Septimont.
2.5 was the underwater base.
2.6 is a small new area of the map in Septimont.

To be honest, I don't really care for how WuWa's main quests are just glorified character quests. Characters like Phoebe and Cantarella basically disappear from the main story once their initial banners end, so I don't feel that attached to the cast. It makes sense that Phrolova won't reappear, but I wish there were more recurring characters in the story.

>>719226409
it's funny because you can always go and visit Phrolova if you want

>>719226409
Wuwa is basically just solo leveling

HOLY SHIT

I've been playing a few weeks now and having a blast so far. It's the best kind of sandbox game, fantastical, varied, and curious to explore, and not just a photoscanned forest from germany. It's kinda easy, though. Enemies have to be 10+ levels above you before you even need to think about healing.

I found the story interesting so far and they got me to care about all the characters. Just got to Rinascita before the update booted me out. Managed to roll Changli and Encore before the timer ran out. Just want Shorekeeper and Jinshi now, and I'm happy. Haven't paid anything or felt pressured to pay so far. Thanks for reading my blog

>>719195383
>actually, I like that there's no skip button, I love unskippable long ass dialogue and cutscenes

>>719227303
>that Fontaine daily of you dealing with some painter's request--yap > go to place and take photo > yap > 20 astrites goy
>and you repeat this daily if RNG decides to give you the middle finger

She practically only wears a bra

>>719227380
you forgot to remove your trips lel

>>719227540
But I haven't removed my trip dough?

If you're that paranoid of samefagging (meds pls), why don't you tell the mods over at IRC to check my activity. They hate my guts and will ban me for the slightest of violations. But I know you're too much of a pussy to ask though.

I'd intended to give Wuwa a go when it came to playstation but by the time it did I was so tired of Shin's whinning I decided to pass on it.

>>719226243
appreciate it

>>719206030
All of 1.x is shit story wise. 2.x is better, but better than shit doesn't mean good.

He looks like Miguel from Gundam SEED, ie, one of the first to die.

Maybe I should roll for Iuno instead...............