Thread 719721423

Why did she do it to kris?

>>719721423 (OP)
Touched his underage wiener

>>719721705
That was supposed to have a question mark at the end

>>719721776
It's not a question, it's a statement

>>719721705
Uhm? His ?
*chekcs tvtropes*
His ?

>>719721423 (OP)
She saw a kindred spirit, the rest is history.

>>719721423 (OP)
>you never had girl next door neighbor to hang out with
shit sucks

How do i get a gf like this?

>>719721423 (OP)
It's not a question of why, it's a question of why not?

Like, who is going to stop her? Not Asgore. Not Carol. And certainly not Kris.

>>719722041
She saw a plaything, and she went for it.

Human males make monster females go crazy, it's a scientific fact

It's gonna be really fucking funny if Dess turns out to look like this.

>>719725027
She'll look like a tranny.

It would be very hilarious of Robert decided to make the Knight literally anyone except for Dess

>>719725153
Carol is too obvious.
Rudy wouldn't really work.
Noelle raises way too many questions.

>>719725632
>too obvious
this doesn't work when dess is by far the most obvious choice

>>719725632
Why does it have to BE anyone at all?

>>719726895
Because it would be weird for it to just be a thing.

>>719726842
I agree, but at least Dess is narratively satisfying.

>>719726895
>maybe the real knight was the friends we made along the way
thank you Tobeo Foxjima

>>719725153
The twist is going to be that it's actually just a darkner based on Dess rather than Dess herself, much like Ralsei and Asriel. It can enter the light world because Kris ripped out his soul and gave it to her, which is why Carol likes him.

>>719727014
>Sussie is the knight

>>719725135
no, THIS looks like a tranny

>>719727076
I still think Kris spread her ashes on his soul, and that caused the knight to start existing.

>>719727257
Quite possibly. OR, Dess's cryro-preserved body to prevent her from turning to dust. That may be what's in the bunker.

>>719727076
i think the knight is a soulless amalgamate made up of the determination extracted from multiple monsters. the bunker is gonna be some crazy lab with a bunch of determination and dark matter experiments. the knight is kidnapping monsters with strong determination probably to make some kinda ultimate amalgamate. there's no reason why an amalgam shouldn't be able to go from dark world to light world. the real question is who is the evil scientist character in deltarune? im guessing carol since alphys seems even more retarded this time around but maybe it's actually rudy?

>>719727651
Why would the knight agree to any of that though

>>719725027
MY SCHIZO THEORY:
dess is just a human with a horn band like kris
because of the pile of human shoes in her closet

>>719727076
>>719727257
I like both of these ideas but regardless of the exact answer I think its undeniable that Kris figuratively or literally sold his soul to the devil to bring her back. Which might explain Eram existing and his taunting.

>>719727651
>>719727883
Excuse me, why would KRIS agree to any of that, given he's working with carol and the knight

deltarune "fans" on this board have made up their own fucking game i swear

>>719727948
Not implausible, we can assume that darkner made from a human would be profoundly stronger than one based on a monster or an object.

>>719721423 (OP)
>Implying you wouldn't.

>>719727883
the knight is probably very simple and easily controlled. he's probably a baby given the crying. whoever's controlling its goal is probably gonna be breaking out of the game which is what FREEDOM is

>>719727956
kris is a suicidal retard trying to end the world he was about to jump out the window after sans fucked his mom and he probably used to stick forks into electrical outlets as a kid. he's also probably immortal cause of determination

>>719728042
making up your own theories is the point of why everything is so vague. you are a bot

>>719728042
>Why are people speculating about the mystery in a mystery plot
kill yourself

>>719723040
>pit hair
based
>bush
gigabased

>>719728581
>>719728740
not what i was referring to

>>719728778
my fault g carry on

>>719728218
I miss my partner.

>>719728973
I miss my wife(s). I miss them a lot.

>>719721423 (OP)
>Deltarune General on /v/
Bye bye OP

>>719728973
>>719729026
tranny samefag

Kris got her pregnant and she didn’t want to ruin his life

>>719729159
Why would that ruin his life

>>719729075
Meds.

>>719727948
I like the human Dess art.

>>719729384
Meant for:
>>719729094

>>719721423 (OP)
Imagine cuddling with dess and noelle and feeling their soft and silky fur covered bodies rubbing aganist your body

bot thread

>>719730016
Bot post.

>>719725632
Rudy’s got the chalk

>>719730016
>>719730226
We can all be bots together! :D

>>719721423 (OP)
Is there a subtle molestation plot like with Omori?
Based.

>>719730016
>>719730226
Now kith

>>719721423 (OP)
I know undertale troond have a habit of having terrible and blatantly wrong theories but this dess shit is by far the stupidest one I've ever seen.

>>719728042
Idiots hyperfixating on singular details and cresting massive blatantly wrong fan theories? When have they EVER done that?

>>719730350
No, it's a subtle bullying/physical abuse plot. The molestation shit is entirely >>719728042

>>719730350
>>719730971
what's with retards looking at obvious, blatant fetish posts and going
>woooow you actually believe this?? you actually believe that happened??
mongoloids did that with the noelle rape posting too

>>719730907
This was just foreshadowing of Kris being AU Chara btw.

>>719730350
>>719730971
Dess would have been like 16 when Kris was 13 I don't see what the big deal is

>>719731387
Or maybe you were just wrong, chara tranny

Deltarune concert when?

>>719731154
The fetish posts are usually better than the actual real theories these days

oh baby my kinda thread

>>719731487
>So mad at an Undertale character he ignores their clear parallels
Lmao.

>>719731154
>Noelle is terrified
>Moves away from Kris
>Kris grabs her
>Cut to black
>Literal deflowering
>Noelle is clearly traumatised, but smiling oddly
>Not rape

>>719730907
>>719731487
I don't know why anyone is so resistant to the idea that Kris is Deltarune's counterpart to Chara. They really couldn't make it any clearer short of giving them the same name.
That doesn't necessarily imply anything about Kris or Chara as characters, they're two different people who have lived different lives, but they're obviously playing a similar role and share a lot of traits. We barely know anything about Chara anyway, I don't know what people are trying to defend here.

>>719731640
Yeah clearly the introverted dork trying to save a loved one even if it means risking the well being of his community is the same as the fucked up demon retard who decided at age 8 to murder the entire world for shits and giggles.

>>719731640
how can you not be a kris = chara believer after the ramb stuff. do you think one day we will ever reach the true kris = chara = vriska endgame?

>>719732032
>I don't know why anyone is so resistant to the idea that Kris is Deltarune's counterpart to Chara.
Probably because they're exactly the opposite in every way that actually matters.

>>719732032
>they're two different people who have lived different lives
this is probably also not even true why do people just ignore the genocide ending where chara says he's gonna go to a new world/create a new world?

>>719721423 (OP)
>This post is spamming/flooding

>>719732209
He was talking about moving on to other video games to clear and destroy them like you did to undertale in the genocide route.

>>719732052
>Retard doesn't even know Chara's character
Typical of a schizo. Kris is also dooming the world because of a plot he's responsible for, and he has violent tendencies as stated in the Art Club and Eram. Chara's plan was also to save an entire race as well.

>>719731154
>hurr durr it wasn't rape
Bait post?

>>719732253
>This poster is transexual

>>719732310
chara's plan was to kill everyone because he was cringe edgelord who was upset about being stuck inside a computer game

>>719732087
Isn't Vriska Susie?

>>719732334
It wasn't rape, she likes being intimidated and thanks you afterward. Now, arguably, KRIS was raped, by (you), but whatever.

>>719732404
>[headcanon] the post
Chara's plan was to break the barrier AND get revenge. Nothing to do with any metashit.

>>719732310
>Chara's plan was also to save an entire race as well.
Chara was using Asriel to genocide humanity and never expressed any degree of consideration for the well being of monsters. When he's reborn in Frisk, he proceeds to murder the entire world, and takes his time doing so to his adopted family.

Kris is a noble hero who is risking everything to save someone he loves. They could not BE more different.

>>719732494
asriel says that chara realized the world was a game and it made him crazy please go back and read. his plan was to genocide everyone and get all the exp in an attempt to break out of the game and achieve FREEDOM.

>>719732417
nah vriska is chara and so is dess to much greater extent. kris is obsessed with cheating and freedom which are presumably traits he got from dess. dess literally wears vriskas coat but green and has horns. chara and vriska literally share a theme song (megalovania)

>>719732138
How are they opposites?
Alphys's Deltarune counterpart isn't Monster Mengele because she's a different person who has lived a different life. Maybe she's fundamentally the same in both timelines, but things have played out differently.
Kris could have turned out like Chara and Chara could have turned out like Kris, is that so hard to imagine? Do you think Toby Fox would write a story where a little kid with serious issues was just born irredeemably evil?

>>719732795
Do not dare compare Dess to fucking Vriska, that stupid piece of shit.

>>719732454
Oh I see, so it wasn't bait just you being a loonytroony.

>>719732867
I'm not the person you replied to, I was just filling in. Also, how is my explanation "loonytroony"?

>>719732864
: : : : D

>>719732579
Chara only destroys the world in genocide because YOU taught them that. It's like blaming Kris for Snowgrave because he canonically enjoys it. Chara also one-shots Toriel and Asgore, she doesn’t take her time with the deed at all (even ignoring the fact she's soulless and couldn't feel anything for them).
>>719732640
You are the one who needs to replay the game. Flowey never says Chara found out the world was a game. Hell, he doesn’t know his world is a game himself, he only treats it that way because of his RESETS.

>>719732795
I see. I never read Homestuck, the only thing I know about it is from these threads.

>>719733029
>Chara only destroys the world in genocide because YOU taught them that.
He insists on doing it and refuses not to even if you try to stop him.
>It's like blaming Kris for Snowgrave because he canonically enjoys it.
Kris will drop snowgrave the instant you allow him to do so.

>>719733029
>>719733338
Oh, and by the way, comparing the genocide route to snowgrave is fucking retarded. In the latter, you force Kris to mess with Noelle's head a little bit. Nothing terrible actually happens except for Berdly getting frozen, and that was self defense. In the former, the demon Chara possesses the protagonist and you and the demon murder the entire world.

>>719733338
>He insists on doing it and refuses not to even if you try to stop him.
This only happens at the very end, after you kill Flowey. At that point you physically can't back out.
>Kris will drop snowgrave the instant you allow him to do so.
So does Chara. I am sure you won't be able to drop Snowgrave at the very end like you couldn't drop genocide.

>>719732954
Oh please don't get it started, we've been over this before so many times. She was raped and the only people who argue otherwise are trannies seething at the mouth over the fact that it clearly was rape.

>>719733457
Chara is only a demon in genocide because they're literally soulless. I am sure if Kris couldn't feel empathy he would do worse, since even his big bro does.

I like how toby spends years setting up and foreshadowing a clear villain character, only for the entire community to completely miss the plot. I think the clearest proof that deltarune fans have no idea what the fuck is going on is that people genuinely don't understand kris' motives somehow.

>>719733503
You don't say "thank you" after rape, retard. It's what she actually wanted.

>>719726895
The game itself has set it up as a mystery. There's a point in chapter 4 where you can force Kris to close his eyes and think of the Knight. Kris sees the Knight slowing taking off its helmet and then he forces himself to think about something else. The Knight's identity is clearly important somehow and it's likely someone we already know.

>>719733529
Chara is a demon because he's fundamentally evil. It's made clear he was like this even when he had his soul. Kris, by contrast, is a noble hero despite not currently having his own soul.

>>719733457
>you force Kris to mess with Noelle's head a little bit. Nothing terrible actually happens except for Berdly getting frozen, and that was self defense
Is the new jannoid strategy to just derail threads with bottom of the barrel bait like this?

>>719732032
Because then their favorite character has zero chance of being in the game. Which is funny because there is zero chance that toby is bringing back chara or frisk by default.

>>719733657
Explain how I'm wrong.

>>719721423 (OP)
New headcanon just dropped

>>719733650
Why are you posting dumb shit like this? What do you get out of it? Are you that desperate for (You)s?

>>719733775
No argument detected

>>719721423 (OP)
asking for it.

>>719721423 (OP)
Not just her, all the female monsters groomed him

>>719733586
I'm not going to respond seriously to shit bait. I could waste my time explaining how The Rape was so good it mindbroke her, or the bajillion other instances where she speaks of how she wishes to be with kris, but no, I'm just going to call you a tranny and not respond again.

>>719733650
Okay, you must be baiting if you think Mr. "Let's his mom get kidnapped twice" is a noble hero but Chara is fundamentally evil.

>>719733713
>>719733789
I'm not sure how I'm supposed to argue with someone who's shitposting with a version of the story they made up in their head and not the game that I played.
If you want to say anything of value and not just shitpost maybe you should play it too instead of rehashing secondhand shit you picked up from other shitposters

>>719721423 (OP)
>can enslave the strongest being in the world to willingly forever be your knight by literally just sitting down
The smartest character in Deltarune.

>>719733987
Turdly started the fight. You're a faggot for defending him.

What do deer smell like?

>>719733990
source

>>719732853
Isn't something missing from this? I thought there was an addition on how Toriel checked out the book several dozen times.

>>719734138
salty eggnog and coins

>>719733972
>Guy who risks the world to save someone he loves is good
>Guy who gets kicked out his village for being a psychopath, openly mocks and disrespects his adopted family and then tries to use them as tools for his revenge against humanity, and then comes back to life as a demon and murders the whole world is bad
It's really not complicated. Kris does everything he can to try to make whatever the fuck he's up to as safe and pleasant as possible and resents (you) any time you do anything to hurt or piss people off, at least lightners.

>>719733938
>I could waste my time explaining how The Rape was so good it mindbroke her,
(pssst)
(in these cases, it's not actually rape, but what she wanted from the start!)

>>719733503
>She was raped
Headcanon

>>719734138
Wild animals usually smell like piss and shit.

>>719734227
We don't actually know if the Knight's plan will even ressurect or save Dess. You're defending an idealized version of Kris made in your head because you can't cope with the character you love being the counterpart of a character you hate.

>>719734358
>>719733938

>>719732853
>How are they opposites?
Kris pretends to be dangerous and aloof but he's actually just an introverted dork. While he is part of some sort of scheme that might be putting his town in some sort of danger, he's clearly trying to do right by everyone around him, and openly hates you if you make choices that hurt or anger or frighten people. Chara, by contrast, is an actual psychopath, and was even when he was a normal living human.
>Kris could have turned out like Chara and Chara could have turned out like Kris,
No. Moral values are almost entirely genetic.

Reminder the soul is the player

>>719733938
The game explicitely sets up that noelle enjoys being emotionally abused and how that is a bad thing and an issue of poor mental health. Kris is the person mpst hurt by ch 4 weird route, not noelle

>>719734456
Not an argument. You're delusion. Masturbate before posting in these threads as you're hammering your fetish into areas where it doesn't fit.

>>719733990
>smelly punk doe ass + pussy on your face every day
kris will have no qualms SWOONing susie/ralsei again

>>719733610
The possibility yet exists that he stops thinking about it because it's not anybody he knows from town, it's some awful entity he's aware of and doesn't want to confront.

>Chara still relevant in 2025
How does she do it?

>>719734523
>Kris pretends to be dangerous and aloof but he's actually just an introverted dork
Bro he literally stabs his friends in the back at the end of chapter 3.

>>719732052
>trying to save a loved one even if it means risking the well being of his community
This is literally headcanon

>>719734789
That's a "possibility" in the same way that a meteor falling in chapter 7 and killing everyone is technically a "possibility"

>>719734193
Yes, that's a different dialogue option

>>719734523
>Moral values are almost entirely genetic.
Do you think that's what Toby Fox believes?

>>719734806
Being vague enough people can have endless discussions about her character but not too vague that there's nothing to build upon.

>>719734629
Last (You) troon, your bait fucking sucks.
>>719734732
>actual seething tranny
Yup yup yup, malding over how The Rape didn't happen again aren't we?

>>719735446
I'm not malding over anything, as what you're implying never happened. It's nothing but projection on your part

>>719732962
Toriel did nothing wrong.

>>719735132
>Being vague enough people can have endless discussions about her character but not too vague that there's nothing to build upon.
Also, the combination of a cutesy child who is a cold-blooded psychopath is appealing.

>>719734418
>We don't actually know if the Knight's plan will even ressurect or save Dess.
We don't. We do know that whatever he's doing, he is trying not to hurt or even bother people as much as possible.

>>719735818
>Kidnaps Undyne
>Attempts kidnapping of his mom twice
>Either lets the Knight swoon Susie and Ralsei or does it himself.
Yeah, he sure is trying.

>>719734821
Not in a context that causes them any real harm
>>719735103
>Do you think that's what Toby Fox believes?
Yes, actually, even if it's not something he could say to his tranny cohort. In that dialogue that Sans is asking you, he's not being sarcastic, he's actually asking. If you kill his brother he rejects the possibility that you could possibly be redeemed.

>>719735132
Where's Lain's hairclip?

SEX WITH THE HOLIDAY WOMEN

>>719735902
Getting SWOON'd doesn't have any actual consequences and you're just assuming something terrible happened to undyne.

>>719736048
I don't get the reference.

>>719736105
>Police sacrifice next week
>You saw Undyne frozen in ice
I am suuure Undyne is fine.

>>719733565
Chapter 2 era Kris chungus is here to stay until the charade comes to an end and you are in direct conflict with him. This is a direct result of the WAIT between chapter 2 and 3-4 being way fucking longer than intended.

MY FUARKIN HEROES and kris

>>719735132
I believe this helps too >>719735740
After all we could had latched on to other characters, but we didn't

>>719734387
They're not wild though.
They live in a house with a shower.

>>719734138
someone posted once that deer smelt like manly sweat i think there is a wiki reference on that
But i'm not checking it out

>>719735740
I prefer good women over evil women.

>>719736862
It wasn't specified. The post just says "deer"

>Toby WILL dissapoint
how?

>>719736805
>We
There's only one person in the room, schizo charafag

>>719737108
>He doesn't know
Lol. There's at least 2 humanfags. Have been for awhile.

For some reason I'm starting to dislike dess and I don't really know why. Maybe it has something to do with how every fanart depiction of her is basically pure headcanon.
Also why do they always draw her like she's in her late teens? Didn't she get btfo when she was like 12 or something?

>>719721423 (OP)
Where's the keys to my truck?

>>719737261
>Didn't she get btfo when she was like 12 or something?
Yes. Secondaries really don't seem to get that Dess got lost when she was very young.

>>719737261
I don't dislike Dess, but I definitely see what you mean. We know so little about her that, like you said, basically every depiction is slathered in headcanon. Which isn't inherently bad, but it's a bit disingenuous for Dessfags to say they're fans of Dess when it would be more accurate to say they're fans of their specific headcanon version of Dess.

>>719737203
Constantly at least 3
In general there are at least like 7 anons that enjoy chara, frisk or both

>>719737203
>>719737765
Blatant samefag
>>719737261
>Didn't she get btfo when she was like 12 or something?
Probably like 14 or 15

>>719737376
The unique leaves being interpreted as weed didn't help. She was probably a freshman in high school when she got lost in the abyss.

>>719737832
You're a weird orbiter, still, not deranged enough to be funny

>>719737765
Yeah, there are a lot of humanchads around. This faggot would know >>719737832 if he payed attention to the filenames.
Also, meds.

i check one of these threads for the first time in weeks and charatranny is STILL shitting them up? amazing

>>719728973
same

>>719734806
autism. same way people are obsessed with dess despite only being vaguely shown in ONE flashback

>>719737004
Understandable
Frisk has a lot going on too
Too bad not that many read the given choices as personality for frisk

>>719738146
>They STILL think only one person likes Chara.

Why is Toriel so neglectful

>>719728746
fur, not hair

>>719738416
>posting the edit

>>719738319
Frisk is an acquired taste, only for those that actually play the games.

>>719738314
Dess is funny as a concept
She mirrors chara as the story is focused on and around her, plus if things continue this way she will have very little screen time, but it will be meaningful at least

>>719738489
You are allowed to post the edit if you want

>>719737929
It's one guy that has been seething about Chara for literal months now. He still thinks there's some cabal conspiracy of a singular Chara poster shitting up his threads.

>>719738489
cmon man you are making the art less interesting by trying to fulfill your fantasies

>>719738595
>She mirrors chara
They have nothing in common. What little we know about Dess does nothing to suggest she's anything like him.
>as the story is focused on and around her
The story of undertale focuses on asriel, not chara

>>719738618
One person is not a conspiracy or a "cabal" chara tranny.
>>719738678
This art is more accurate to the game though.

>>719738618
>By posting and talking about the central characters of the story
The world can be a weird place

>>719738595
I feel like Dess mirrors Asriel far more, especially if she truly is the Knight.
>>719738778
If it was one person, this>>719738314
>>719738319 would be impossible because of posting types. But you're probably schizo enough to think your boogeyman is using multiple devices just to piss you off.

>>719738957
*posting times

>>719738778
I find the idea of a curious Snowgrave player being increasingly unnerved by Noelle's enthusiasm for being forcibly married to an eldritch horror hilarious.

>come for the deer
>stay for the humans
Unexpected, but still enjoyable.

Autistic thread desu

>>719738854
It's just Chara that gets this autism. When I am waifufagging Frisk I get none of those schizos. For some reason it's just the demon that gets all these lunatics.

>>719738705
In personality, yeah no, but as what you deny, yes
>on asriel
Even asriel focuses on chara, all his issues and regrets come after what he failed to accomplish with chara, the "war" (asgore just declared it but besides killing kids he did nothing more) began because of what chara made asriel do, every event in undertale happened because of chara, even to the moment you're playing because frisk is not exactly alone

>>719737261
>>719737376
Dess was definitely in her mid-late teens when she disappeared judging by her room, and it's been at least a few years since then

>>719738489
>>719738416
the deadface is sexier

>>719739164
>When I am waifufagging Frisk I get none of those schizos.
Whore.

>>719738146
It's usually easy enough to ignore but when you see the same faggotry every thread I kinda understand why jamies eat the threads.

>>719737925
I think she was younger. Her silhouette in Tenna's flashback looks smaller than current Noelle.

Desskris is the hottest shit since lava, absolutely top shelf shit. This thread has reminded me I should go scour ao3 for some quality literature, thanks perverts

>>719739218
Frisk has always been my main wife.

>>719739486
but Frisk is a boy??

>>719738957
If dess IS the knight, then yeah things would change, for we never interacted with chara unlike with asriel, we'll get to see in a year if lucky or more likely in two
I'm personally not counting on that, for the easter eggs on the code of this "person" trapped in the timeless zone

>>719739164
Most of the things that can be argued about chara can be argued with frisk too, but yeah the discussions become more passive
Its curious really and something fun to think about in the future, there is a stronger attachment maybe?
Really cute frisks by the way

>>719738595
I think it's very likely Dess gets unmasked in Chapter 5. If Noelle is coming with us to the Dark World again like people have been speculating it's 100% happening

>>719738705
>>719738957
Dess and Kris are Deltarune's Chara and Asriel
The connection is obvious on the surface as a monster and human who seemingly had a sibling-like bond that became a bad influence and led to tragedy, but the twist is that Dess is more like Chara and Kris is like UT Asriel.
Dess almost definitely stole the codes to the Shelter from her and Kris's parents and tempted Kris to follow her into the dark.

>>719739205
I doubt that. She looks about the same age as Asriel in the Tenna flashback, and it's implied he only recently went off to college

>>719738957
You don't need a second device to fail to capitalize sentences, dipshit

>>719739205
Her room doesn't look like a big kid's room. I don't get why people think so.

Dess is not going to be hot

>>719739128
>Come for the schizo rambling
>Stay for the humans too
These threads can be actually good, too bad they are a "kill on sight" sometimes

>>719739571
(Tom)boy, yeah.
>>719739752
Are you this much of a newfag to not know there’s a post cooldown of one minute?

>>719739203
>Even asriel focuses on chara, all his issues and regrets come after what he failed to accomplish with chara,
No, his issues come from the fact that he lost his capacity to experience empathy and then eventually suffered from immortality-derived boredom.

FUCK chara and FUCK frisk!!!

>>719739836
You said "posting types", chara tranny.

>>719739889
on it boss

>>719739923
>>719739032

>>719739731
Asriel is Deltarune's Asriel and there is no chara because Toby has moved on from IT'S A LE VIDEOGAME storytelling.
>that became a bad influence
There's no evidence of this.

>>719739360
I'd be less annoyed if they didn't try and hijack every single thread in order to make it about the humans exclusively.

>>719739149
It's always an extra dogshit thread when the Chara avatarfag spammer is around

>>719739889
If you insist...

>>719740017
Especially given the two humans he hyperfixates on a complete non-character and a shitty meme character that only exists to undermine Flowey's shtick.

>>719739842
His main issue is that he is an undead talking flower, that problem came from he dying due to chara's plan crashing down
The kill or be killed totally comes from his death too, not something afterwards
Yes he embraced his psycho side once he messed with himself after so many resets, but without chara, there is no flowey to begin with

>>719739889
Horny today huh?

>>719739731
Yeah, this is true. Dess is Asriel and Kris is Chara, but their roles have been swapped.

holy fucking mother of samefag, batman!

>>719740240
Wrong. Dess and Kris are good people while Chara is a seething psychopath retard

Carol>Dess>Noelle
if Noelle get fishnets and goth rock outfit she can get the first place though

>>719739626
I don't think Toby would put 2026 in the actual game just to end up delaying it. Even with the Homestuck project in the air. And the person in the code is just a flashback, it's not actually happening at the same time.

Always here to post Frisky.

>>719739747
When Dess was still around she and Asriel were bigger (teenaged) while Kris and Noelle were small younger kids. Dess and Asriel were probably roughly the age that Kris and Noelle are now, old enough to have a part-time job and be thinking about college.
Even if Dess was on the younger side of plausible estimates it still has to have been a few years since she disappeared, long enough for Kris and Noelle to have grown up from young kids to teens.

>>719739757
She has tons of well-used sporting equipment including stuff like ice hockey and paintball, outdoorsy gear implying she would camp out in the woods alone, she was into MTV and has instruments and made-up posters implying she had or wanted to be in a band, she has "scary" games and movies, and she has a weed stash.
These are things you find in an older teenager's room. I don't know who's imagining a 12 or 13 year old girl wearing flannel or leather jackets.

>>719739731
I wonder about the pacing tobby has a lot to do in 3 chapters, i hope he chooses to do more Reveal
>(you) to susie
>susie antagonizing (you) or kris
>the knight(s)
>noelle as a vessel?
>if rudy lives
>kris intentions to susie and noelle
>an antagonist
>the actual purpose of castletown
>what is ralsei and make it impactful
>Why are (you) here
>where is hometown
>asgore's subplot
>Toriel's subplot
>Sans's subplot
>the roraring
>what it means for (you) or the npcs to be free
>what of asriel
>finally of dess

>>719740017
There's one side discussing the game, and there's another side whining about off-topic metafaggotery. I wonder who it is.

>>719740331
Are you the same retard seething about Chara earlier in the thread? Are you the one seething about Chara posters as well?

STOP SEXUALIZING DESS

>>719740771
This is what happens when you cram too much shit into a story that takes place over the course of a week

>>719740739
Everything except the weed is stuff kids can wear. And the weed stuff is just a meme. Dess didn't look older than Noelle in Tenna's flashback, probably even younger.

>>719740872
samefag tranny
>>719740920
No

>>719740728
Making the game shouldn't take that long, the problem is if tobby is still being autistic with irrelevant details or not
Tobby is constantly doing a lot of things not exactly giving confidence, plus there is an anniversary coming that he has to overseer, Ch3 got release date got consumed by a lot of minigames that no one asked for, if there is a festival, we might have a lot of those too
i prefer to expect the worst case, if nothing happens then hooray!, if it happens, it was expected

>>719740771
Lots of this can be condensed in two or three plot points. And we do have an antagonist, that's Kris and the Knight.

>>719740284
Kek that's the only reason these threads survive is because of an image dumper. The popularity of Deltarune on /v/ is entirely artificial.

>>719740920
>don't get any ideas of the latina big sis that knows you since you remember
Yeeeah... not happening

>>719741068
Okay, you are. Explains the schizophrenia.

the fuck is asriels problem

>>719741306
LATINA?

>>719740016
>Toby has moved on from IT'S A LE VIDEOGAME storytelling.
lol
>There's no evidence of this.
Kris certainly doesn't take after the goody-two-shoes Asriel and it's easy to imagine Dess wanting to have some fun with a kid who's willing to get in some trouble over her momma's boy boyfriend and scaredy-cat little sister.
I'm not implying that Dess was anywhere near as bad for Kris as Chara was for Asriel though, we definitely don't know enough to make a claim like that. She was probably a troublemaker like Susie, and roping Kris into exploring the Shelter was just majorly fucking up big time beyond what she ever could have expected

>>719741236
Kris and the Knight are just a misunderstanding that will be cleared up by the end of episode 6

>>719741012
>the weed stuff is just a meme
There's being cautious about speculating too much and then there's being willfully ignorant

>>719741343
He's actually every Kress poster here that wishes they got molested. He has a femdom fetish.

>>719741261
>Schizo that thinks everyone is the same person is a anti-Deltarune shitposter
Hmmm....

>>719741236
While Kris like Flowey has antagonized us since the start it feels like the story is building him to justify him in some way, in the regular route he doesn't feel to be the final boss, maybe just some hyper titan or something, since because the roaring was teased, we will see it happen, i still see tobby imitating the alexander vs bahamut scene

in the weird route maybe, as we will be free from him and everything should change

>>719741261
TRVKE

>>719741383
a latina skater like tomboy girl
what else could she be?

>>719741109
I like Toby autism for details, and I enjoyed Chapter 3's minigames. I still think Toby takes way to long to complete this game. I feel like Silksong's release will eclipse Deltarune's simply because it's going to be a finished game versus Deltarune being unfinished (and cheaper, too).

>>719741343
>I can fix her!
>I can make him worse
Remember kiddos
You can't fix her

>>719741721
I don't think Kris is THE final boss, either, but he's still an ever present antagonist, together with the Knight. They're the main villains, even if neither will probably be THE final boss.

>>719741876
It was fun, its a good game after all, none of us would be here otherwise
>Silk
yes and no
That game already settled deltarune and many other games in a bad light, as a shinning example of how things can/should be
But deltarune will not be completed in at least 3 more years, enough for people to forget that happened and for it to have its own spotlight

>>719740370
>>719740445
Why does the Deer react like this but not Susie. Susie has every inclination to do so as well, especially as a teenage child from a (presumably terrible) household.

>>719742075
Maybe the roaring will work as asgore did, being presented as the main threat since the beginning
And Kris + knight as asriel
Or maybe they allow the path for the main villain to appear
Or like in omori we have to help kris to deal with his past
...There are so many ways this can unfold

>>719742283
Yes, that’s true. Deltarune is still a long way to completion, meaning people will forget about the Silksong dilemma, especially since new Chapters will be free.

>>719741439
>Kris certainly doesn't take after the goody-two-shoes Asriel
He does actually. He just sometimes pretends to be edgy but in practice he's a passive softy and gets angry if you try to make him be assertive, let alone actually hurt people.

just three months to 2026
m-maybe toby will release Ch5 in january...

>>719742754
If Kris took after Asriel he wouldn't sing swears in the choir, for example.

>>719721423 (OP)
I love fluffy girls

>>719741343
asriel is just noelle but male

>>719742828
Bro you know it's going to be Q4 of 2026.

Accept it.

>>719742828
Try June to December

>>719740920
people have been jacking off to dess since at least ch2, with some survey programmers doing since 2018

kris, my wayward son (female)
what are you plotting

>>719742995
Souls see this and instantly fall in love.

>>719742828
Deltarune is only coming out at the latter half of the year, I bet.

>>719743126
To be a virgin until marriage because that is the religious thing to do

>>719743126
kris is not a pooner

>>719743126
Kris is a boy

>>719742995
>>719743140
kek i was thinking that fits noelle better

>>719743339
She's a virgin.

>>719743448
a female boy

>>719743450
>FEETelle
BASED.

>>719742995
I need her

>>719729730
>try to molest noelle
>get molested by dess as revenge

>>719744714
More like
>Was molested by Dess.
>Repeats the cycle of abuse with Noelle.

>>719733586
>You don't say "thank you" after rape, retard
haha yeah

So... Chapter 5 predictions? Are we ready for Flowey to return together with his six recolors?

>>719745008
>Bergentrückung with the Freedom theme
>Your Best Nightmare with the Freedom theme
Call it

>>719728973
Literally didn't do any work.
Spent the whole game riding the Player's coattails.

>>719727948
Isn't there dialogue in the console version of Undertale that refers to Dess as a monster in the underground?

>>719745257
None. Bonetrousle with freedom.

>>719742495
Because Susie also bleeds.
For some reason...

I got banned in Shayy’s chat just for saying Susie was hot, this is the type of shit that radicalizes people.

>>719745539
iirc sans mentions without naming noelle and her older sister
this caused a lot of autism because it specified noelle as having antlers, but not dess (because it would be esl tier if he did so in that sentence)

>>719745809
every youtuber that latched onto deltarune is mentally ill in some capacity, what did you expect

>>719745809
>knowing e-celeb names
>watching e-celeb streams
>posting in e-celeb stream chats
I cannot stress this enough: kill yourself

>>719745809
Erm, that's a heckin' minorino
Only a heckin' diddy ah blud would make suggestive comments about the hot tomboy

>>719745008
>Chapter 5 predictions?
yeah
>end of chapter
>bus drops someone off near the dreemur residence
>alex yiik looking asriel goes into a monologue about how much has changed since he went to college
>can freely wander around as asriel and inspect everything prompting a few paragraphs about the thing you interact with
>only person azzy can speak to is rudy, rudy is not happy to see azzy because he doesn't shut up

>charatard attracted to tranny kid diddler thread
yup
>>719727135
nice gut, shame about everything else

>>719745997
i always took kris for more of a michael myself

>>719745809
Must've triggered his suppressed heterosexuality

>>719745809
Shay is a literal faggot tranny that posts his crossdressing pictures to kids.

>>719723040
I think you have to spend all your money on guns, at least that's what /k/ told me.

>>719737261
It's because all the fan designs are either overdesigned garbage or exist to channel the artist's Gravity Falls /ss/ fanfiction and no one really gives a fuck about Dess the Character beyond having her fuck Asriel/fuck Noelle/fuck Kris (and write pages of blog posts trying to say they're drawing their old sister and her mental issues or something rather than just owning up to the fact they want to draw/self insert into a young boy getting molested). You're letting headcanon make you hate actual canon and unfortunately Toberto fed the flames with stuff like the alligators in bikinis incident or his own love affair with the Omori shotacon dev.

>>719746026
>tranny kid
You actually believe in they/them bs?

>>719737925
>>719737376
the leaves are obviously a weed joke, none of the timeline makes sense or has any concrete dates or ages because toby is a little bitch boy who doesn't want to commit to anything that would make his twitter fans stop drawing porn of the characters.

>>719745997
Who would Kris be here? Vella?

>>719746213
>i didn't crush on him, i just wanted to spend the rest of our lives together
This has to have been written by a rape victim

>>719746367
no dipshit, kris is male and especially male in all the kress stuff. the trannies are the ones making the content and getting off to grooming, often making dess herself a self insert tranny (flag pins are free)

>>719746446
I don't think so because they weren't translated in the Japanese release, iirc. I think mint leaves are just a survivalist thing, heck revivemint is a thing.

>>719746540
I don't think you realized what I was replying to.

>There are still people in 2025 who think Chara was just born evil.
I'm sure the eight year old who tried to off themselves was totally being well treated in his hometown. It must have been 100% his fault.

>>719746348
I think, as a character, there is almost certainly more to her than than the cool big sis Noelle and Kris saw her as. Not saying she's secretly evil or the like, that is mostly just speculation at the moment, but I really doubt it's as simple as it seems.

>>719746676
it was my post

>>719743126
Offing themselves.

>>719732640
>asriel says that chara realized the world was a game and it made him crazy
do you have a single textbox to back that up

>>719742754
>but in practice he's a passive softy
It's amazing how people can look at Kris and seriously believe this.

>But he cares about Noelle.
Anon, if somebody tries to mindbreak your childhood friend and you try to put a stop to that that doesn't mean you are a softy. Kris is a pretty awful friend anyway.

why is she like this

>>719746891
He doesn't. It's bullshit he made up.

>>719746801
She's just Chara again.

>>719746979
Kris fumbles with the jack of spades and even the rules card if you try to discard them, so he's soft enough to care about even fucking Rouxls.

>>719746843
Oh, okay. I finally understood your post.

>>719746465
fitting for the route tbsqh

>>719746994
she wants kris to grab it
there's no other explanation

How bad are these threads going to be when it's revealed that Dess isn't the Knight?

>>719746730
>I'm sure the eight year old who tried to off themselves was totally being well treated in his hometown. It must have been 100% his fault.
Yes.

>>719740445
>>719740370
>>719740289
Is this implying monsters have a taste for human flesh they are actually repressing? Because if so, that's fucking hot.

Just imagine Kris getting a gash during recess and the entire class looking at him like he's a piece of meat.

>>719747095
They have literally nothing in common chara tranny

>>719737261
>For some reason I'm starting to dislike dess and I don't really know why.
Cause she's a spoiled rich girl pretending to be punk?

She's probably insufferable to be around in real life. Always pretending to be a rebel only to start talking about being the mayor's daughter the moment you give any pushback.

>>719721423 (OP)
OP, how did you get your thread to live? Legitimate question, my Deltarune threads are deleted on sight.

>>719746730
He immediately nearly killed his adopted foster dad and laughed about it. Yes, he was just born evil. Most evil people are.

>>719747215
Not as bad if the SOUL ends up being their own character.

>>719740289
>i've never actually seen human blood before
ironic considering susie is inexplicably the only monster in deltarune who bleeds and also knows how to clean up blood (toriel's a retard who doesn't know how her own child works)

>>719747049
Asriel is forever doomed, no matter the timeline, to have a fetish for girls he thinks he can fix but will drag him down to hell.

>>719747095
>Inb4 "Asriel saying Dess wasn't a very good person"

>>719747245
Look, I like Dio Chara as well, but it's probably not canon.

>>719721423 (OP)
All anthro women crave human dick. She can't really be held at fault for that.

>>719747390
honestly i think susie would dislike her for being fake
sure dess has some unexpected hobbies, like being into milsurp, but she probably buys her jeans pre ripped
meanwhile susie probably has had the same pair for years and would most likely only trash them when they cannot be used anymore, for anything

>>719747543
It's just one Chara hater having a sperg out the entire thread. Ignore him.

>>719747097
>Not murdering Susie's friends is being a softy
I'll grant you Rouxls. But come on, he clearly doesn't mind beating the shit out of everybody.

>>719747406
He laughed it off. Possibly as a nervous tick. It's very bold to assume that means he didn't care about Asgore considering even in the midst of the genocide route seeing the sweater he made for Asgore still caused him some grief.

>>719747640
She absolutely buys her jeans pre ripped and I could see Susie being annoyed by how obviously fake she is.

Dess meanwhile would somehow convince herself Susie is trying to play with her favorite toy: Kris.

why ISN'T chara yellow?

>>719747764
Cause only a white women can fuck up this badly.

An Asian girl would have just hit Asriel like a jackhammer and become god queen of the underground.

>>719747764
chara is white
frisk is sea
kris is finnish

>>719747749
>Dess meanwhile would somehow convince herself Susie is trying to play with her favorite toy: Kris.
>>dess and susie trying to assert dominance over one another to screw with kris
>>boss of this gym . mp4
god i wish i were kris

>>719747764
reverse vitiligo

>>719740370
>studying to be a doctor
>while still in compulsory education
What, does the Holiday family disown you if you don't attain a degree by the age of 18?

>>719747867
I've seen quite a bit of art with that premise, it's very hot.

>>719747862
>kris is finnish
He's Asian?

>>719747956
What else do you think happened to Dess?

>>719747764
Pale because of lack of sunlight, or because she was dead.

>>719747853
That's literally what Frisk does btw. Goes underground and fucks shit up immediately. Asian Frisk confirmed.

>>719748151
I mean, Frisk basically solves the entire plot in two out of 3 routes. Something the previous seven kids couldn't despite the odds being far less stacked against them.

>>719747989
fingolian is the correct term

>>719728973
What are the chances Deltarune is going to read your undertale files for proof of partnership. Like you can't defeat certain enemies unless you rely on that power from another game

>>719748383
Zero because Toby Fox is not a hack

>>719731154
>mongoloids did that with the noelle rape posting too
Bitch faggot you dont put in a rose petal wilting if youre not trying to symbolize rape.

>>719748383
Game Maker can't do that. Physically impossible unless Toby begs them to add another feature.

>>719733713
Well for one I think it's implied that we killed berdly. And Kris was clearly distraught over everything that we were doing to Noelle. Chara seemingly wasn't bothered by the idea of poisoning her adoptive father and she wanted to genocide humanity. Had a strong hatred for Humanity that she felt No Remorse for.

>>719748486
>Toby Fox is not a hack
hahah

>>719748575
GameMaker doesn't have file I/O?

>>719747654
>He laughed it off. Possibly as a nervous tick.
Asriel outright says he was evil and the genocide route proves it.

>>719748638
>Well for one I think it's implied that we killed berdly.
Well like I said, he attacked us.
>And Kris was clearly distraught over everything that we were doing to Noelle.
Agreed, although I think he's being naive, and doesn't understand that it's what she wants
>Chara seemingly wasn't bothered by the idea of poisoning her adoptive father and she wanted to genocide humanity. Had a strong hatred for Humanity that she felt No Remorse for.
No argument there, Kris is nothing like Chara, he only pretends to be dangerous, but he's really a lot like his brother.

>>719721423 (OP)
>The first time she did it was purely by accident.
>She was trying to sleep with Asriel.
>Prepared for it and everything, wore the best piece of lingerie she could find in hometown.
>"W-We shouldn't do this before marriage, Dess."
>"What would carol say?"
>"Toriel would kill me..."
>God, he can be insufferable sometimes.
>I headed to my room, annoyed, and tried removing my lingerie.
>Had just removed my top and was working on my garter belt when suddenly.
>"Hey, Dess. Can you tell me wh-"
>Oh right, Kris. He was hanging out with Noelle today.
>...Shit, I think my breasts are on full display.
>Well, he's a young kid. I'm sure he won't think anything of it.
>...No, he's red as a potato.
>Darn, guess puberty comes early for humans.
>...
>If this was a harem anime, the type Carol sometimes watches, this would normally be the moment where I would start throwing stuff at him
>Yet, I can't help but tease him a little instead.
>"Like what you see, Krismas?"
>"I... I... I'm sorry, D-Dess."
>He's stuttering like a little kid.
>Kind of cute, frankly.

>>719748638
Do you really think Chara would have been okay with us giving the Noelle treatment to Asriel?

>Chara seemingly wasn't bothered by the idea of poisoning her adoptive father
Based on what?

>Had a strong hatred for Humanity that she felt No Remorse for.
Okay? And? Misanthropy is bad but we don't know if it's her fault.

>>719748863
Genocide route shows they were perfectly content to stay dead, possibly even help the player, if you didn't corrupt them.

>>719748575
Toby said to be working with Game Maker themselves so they could implement a method for each chapter to work like if they were a separate game to ease the development, but who knows, they could implement something in the future.

>>719741012
>Dess didn't look older than Noelle in Tenna's flashback
Noelle, Kris and the other classmates are probably around 16 in the present

>>719748862
I don't think Game Maker can read other game's files, yeah.

>>719749194
Exactly. Dess was younger than that when she went missing at the very least.

>Kris losing a hand theory
Cringe or Kino

>>719749334
Schizocringe. Too much speculation, not enough evidence. It's more of a fanfic than a theory. That's not to say it's unique in that regard.

>>719749223
Per the GameMaker Manual, by default, most API functions only operate within the so-called "sandbox". But this can be turned off in settings. So no, the engine does have support for general file I/O.

I will never forgive Robert for making Dess a fat and ugly bulldyke just to break everyone's expectations................................

>>719749573
Hmm... so I guess Toby could make it so it can read Undertale files in an update. I doubt it, though.

>>719749334
I think it's kind of dumb.
The hand stuff is kino symbolism that people are taking at face value and going "wow that would be badass" instead of thinking about what it means
Not to say that Toby couldn't do it and make it cool but I don't really care about that compared to thinking about what's going on behind the scenes and whatever happened with Dess

>>719741012
If you actually compare the sprites, Dess's silhouette is pretty close to Noelle's, the only thing that makes her appear short is the fact that she's sitting and you can't see her legs.
Like if you copy over Noelle's legs like the pic, they match up with where Dess's legs would've been.
Personally, I think Dess disappeared at the age Kris, Susie and Noelle are now.

>>719748945
He attacked us yeah but we could have handled it without killing him like we did on the other route. We didn't have to kill him. We could have just beat the shit out of him.

>>719748497
I never said anything about symbolizing. I'm talking about the literal action. There are a bunch of retarded faggots who think "waaah people thought Kris physically raped Noelle and that's why he had to change it"

>>719749068
The video tapes found in the true lab. It's implied that she laughed it off when asgore was sick.

>>719749950
this image but its while im having sex with chara

>>719750107
nervous laughter is a known stress response
it freaking people out who don't have it is also common

>>719749334
that sounds like it would be cool so im for it

>>719727076
I like the idea of
>Dess dies after or becuase of dark world bullshit
>Carol is understandably distraught ass hell, so is Kris
>Carol/kris makes a dark world with dess's corpse in it, she comes back as an altered version of herself.
>give her Kris's original soul or a soul of someone/something else, maybe that results in kris having the player inside of him (we are the [FRIEND] inside him)
>the dark shards are bits of her original soul that was lost

>>719750138
As long as I can have Frisk.

>>719750295
It wasn't a nervous laughter. Go look at the dialogue. I'm not sure why you're beating around the bush like this. She laughed when asriel expressed concern over his father.

>>719750003
This pretty much summarizes my thoughts about it. Hands in DR pretty obviously symbolize autonomy/agency. Both over yourself and others (puppet strings, etc.). Kris not being able to see his hand symbolizes (among other possibilities) his lack of control over his own life, and in a literal sense, his own body. And that's not even getting into the Gaster connections. The whole theory very much reads like someone had a an idea they thought would be really cool, and then went back and combed through the game for anything that looked remotely related, regardless of how poorly it fits together.

behead all pedos

>>719750561
troons btfo'd

>>719750031
Hmmm.... that would make the agegap between Noelle and Dess very big.

its funny how much the charatranny screeches about not being a samefag while accusing anyone calling him out over his faggotry of being a samefag

>>719750561
>Everyone dies because we all lust over Noelle and Susie (underage)

>>719750689
Some of us lust over Undyne, thank you very much.

>>719750659
Jesus Christ, you've been sperging out over several messages now. Go outside and take a breather or smth.

Making Deltarune theories is pointless since Toby has had a thing with giving people misleading hints/teasers since the beginning
>Asgore isn't a devil unlike what most pre-release material hinted at
>Kris didn't genoslide the town like the chapter 1 ending hinted at
>Toby teased chapter 2 specifically with the only 2 hospital themed enemies from it
>Kris isn't the knight like how chapter 2 hinted at
>Tenna foreshadowing was terrible all around
>Chapter 4 wasn't a christmas dark world like how the later newsletters could lead you to believe

>>719750689
how old is the spider?

>>719750764
She can be cool.

>>719750764
underage > jobber

>>719750860
NOOOO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT TOBY WRITES SHIT SIDEWAYS ON PURPOSE YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND RED HERRINGS AND FORESHADOWING YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND KEEPING A FANBASE ENTERTAINED YOU'RE PROBABLY JUST BUTTHURT ABOUT THE MIKE ROOM

>>719750860
That's just Toby being a bad writer.
Deltarune being red herrings: the game because of the chapter release cycle, ages poorly.

>>719749950
Deltarune soul possession being applied to Undertale is cringe and makes no sense when you can determine what Frisk will do after the True Pacifist ending.

>>719750934
The creator said she was her baby or smth so children on twitter started harassing lewds of her.

>>719750615
1. It's called a growth spurt, kids can and do grow a significant amount in a relatively short time.
2. Noelle isn't human anyway.

>>719750561
>/v/ will call you a pedo if you want to have sex with this girl

>>719751036
I agree. The SOUL in Undertale is just Frisk's. I just like the image.

>>719750557
Plus, i think that kris can see his hand if he uses the dark christal in the dark world, right? and sees some weird shit in the light world, not being able to see his hand would be like being trapped in that fiction, to permanently become a part of that and have your existence be built around the perception someone else has of you.
>>719750386
Which connects with the idea of The Knight being an altered Dess made from kris's grandiose but also terrified perception of dess, given autonomy with a soul. Kris feels responsible for that and fears suffering the same fate.

>>719750860
>like the chapter 1 ending hinted at
yep, it's a worked mark

>>719750860
>>719751003
>>719751029
>jump to retarded conclusions
>be wrong
>"why even bother thinking about it?"
Low IQ individual(s)

>>719751093
Alright. You convinced me. I consneed.

>>719751003
>Mike out of nowhere

>>719721423 (OP)
GOTTA TRAIN EM YOUNG

>>719750689
i've gotten to the point to where i think of the kids as more like children/ younger siblings despite being roughly comparable age when ch1 came out
i would, however, have sweaty milf sex with toriel and/ or carol (after rudy passes)
i would also consider alphys, maybe

>>719751201
>you didnt think the ending of chapter 1 hinted to a greater purpose than "kris looks at the viewer to eat pie" even though toby clearly wanted you to? heh i guess you were just wrong, happens!
Retard

>>719727076
i mean yeah, but that's not really a twist. the Knight clearly isn't a normal person.
its body behaves more like a vaguely-sentient mass of pure Dark, and even in the Light World, it's still strong enough to walk Undyne like a dog.
most likely it's something like an amalgamate: Dess was dead or dying and someone tried to save her with DT and/or Darkness, but the thing they brought back wasn't Dess at all.

>>719751319
have you considered the rabbit shopkeeper

>>719750860
I don't think you're wrong per se, but I will say a lot of people who make theories just do it because they find the act fun in and of itself. It's not so much about accurately predicting the story as it is thinking about engaging with the material in a different way. Trying to guess where the plot is heading IS indeed a fool's errand, but it can be fun to try, even if you know you're wrong.

>>719751382
>but the thing they brought back wasn't Dess at all
like the gerson statue?

>>719751319
I find it a bit odd how old the chacters are supposed to be, on one hand they may be around 14-15 but in some other ways they give the impression of being much younger, specially susie, academically or intelectually speaking. It would be funny if they all were around 14 15 and susie was 12, but no one noticed because she's big for her age and her parents didn't bother keeping proper documents about her or correct the teachers.

>>719751343
I'm not the retard who thought Kris was Chara and going to GENOSLIDE everyone in Chapter 2. That was you, apparently.

>>719751541
Susie could be in fact older, she looks the type who was held back a school year or two

>>719750934
Old enough

>>719751529
Fuck that's totally foreshadowing isn't it? Good catch.

>>719751632
i know that logically makes sense, but her being younger is funnier.

>>719751541
1. People think stupid/childish characters are endearing
2. Toby's players are mostly either manchildren or actual children, and writing characters to fit them better makes them more invested
3. >>719746446
>none of the timeline makes sense or has any concrete dates or ages because toby is a little bitch boy who doesn't want to commit to anything that would make his twitter fans stop drawing porn of the characters.

>>719751469
i forgot about her, to be honest
i probably would before alphys, for sure

>>719751632
susie is in her mid 20s

>>719751546
>I'm not the retard who thought Kris was Chara and going to GENOSLIDE everyone in Chapter 2.
Nobody besides twittertroons thought this. Kris doing something beyond eating a fucking pie is what everyone expected.

>>719751890
>forgetting about Boobs the Bunny
Shame on you, but understandable.

>>719751003
>YOU'RE PROBABLY JUST BUTTHURT ABOUT THE MIKE ROOM
I wasn't really butthurt, just sad that he is stepping to such a low like that. Leaving Mike as a never seen gag character would have been better. I can barely forgive it because the battle and the characters were fun, but it was still either an asshole move or a complete inability to read the room.
>>719751029
Undertale had nowhere near the same amount of red herrings
>>719751496
>Trying to guess where the plot is heading IS indeed a fool's errand
Buddy, mystery stories have been liked for a long time, and one thing that makes them satisfying is seeing everything get pieced together neatly. Right now Deltarune has shit like Jevil's backstory barely holding up from what was previously revealed.

>>719751541
to me they feel like they're 15, old enough to want to be independent and to start preparing for the future, not old enough to be considered an adult by anyone, anywhere
they acting like a bunch of little edgelords around each other also makes me think they can't be too old, i remember when i was like that 13 years ago

>>719752019
I don't know why you're smugposting when nothing you said contradicts anything I said.

>>719751973
Kris did do something beyond eat a pie. He plugged the TV in between chapters 1 and 2. He made the preparations for chapter 3.

>>719751973
But he did? He plugged the TV and made the deal with Tenna.

>>719751716
A lot of foreshadowing was very open and in our faces with the hindsight.
The sign on the chessboard puzzle is probably going to be very important later on.

Sex with ralsei

>>719752107
which one was you?

>>719752291
you could turn him into a sex slave and he would do it happily

>>719752291
Susie...

>>719751824
schizo time. consider the following facts:
>toby and omocat (person who loves little boys) are friends
>toby adores the Mother series, which all have little boys as the protagonists, and especially Mother 3
>toby already used a kid as Undertale's protagonist
>the holidays were only invented post undertale and Toby lied about his concept art dates
>Dess didn't exist at all at first and the Undertale alarm clock was patched later to include Noelle's sister
>Toby used to lurk on either 4chan or 4chan adjacent places
>Deltarune has been in development for 200 years
the result of these thoughts is my ultimate schizo theory: the entire Dess subplot exists so that Toby could add in /ss/ bait like the music videos conversation and specifically, all of it is fueled by the porn of Lucas and Kumatora from Mother 3 that he spent years jerking off to, and he wants more of that but has somehow also attracted a fanbase of people who go on witch hunts over fictional character ages so he made the main cast intentionally childish while making sure to never so much as imply any actual ages, not even multiple grades of school. All because young Robert Fox had so many bookmarks for the art pages of Noill and/or Subtank and he has escalated beyond paying other people for his spank bank, now he knows he can get it for free with a wink-wink-nudge line or two of dialogue.

>>719751382
>"And so wept the fallen star, making rivers with its tears. Then, slowly, from the bitter water, something grew. It looked like glass"
The Knight isn't literally Dess, but a darkner created out of her suffering

>>719750860
>Kris didn't genoslide the town like the chapter 1 ending hinted at
Anyone with half a brain predicted this to be the case. Down to the knife being for the pie.
>Kris isn't the knight like how chapter 2 hinted at
Half the people here knew Kris wasn't the Knight
>Chapter 4 wasn't a christmas dark world like how the later newsletters could lead you to believe
Tons of people were expecting it to be the church.

>>719752291
With me

>>719752568
Toby failed because Kress barely has any porn.

>>719752461
Misanthropic human pussy lead to a race war and the deaths of 8 kids. so over all it could have been worse

>>719752402
Judging by the last chapters, he'd try to keep his smile and pretend to enjoy it but in reality you're crushing the little there is of his self esteem

Its gonna be very funny to see the community when the reveal is that Dess is human, but there's also a deer version of Dess who was brought to life through human fan art (the world above the lighter world).

>>719752568
bonus theory: this also stems from Toby at a formative age being part of Homestuck where the entire main cast is explicitly and canonically under-18 (or 7 solar sweeps, take your pick) and had so, so, so goddamn much porn made of every variety and kink that combined with living at ground zero, Hussie's basement, some part of Toby's brain snapped and never recovered.

>>719752730
She doesn't have a canon design yet, the porn is still taking a backseat to artists designing their own manic pixie deer girls. Give it time.

>>719752794
i just remembered that hussies self insert proposed to vriska on screen
man. you probably couldn't do that today huh. even under the veil of irony that was sincerity the whole time.

>>719750860
I had a feeling that Kris and Noelle were super close with their ch2 dialogue while some people thought that both Kris and Noelle didn't give a shit about each other anymore, i won
super safe theory but well

>>719753016
it was pretty obvious in ch2
people who predicted it in ch1 however, were seeing some shit that others just couldn't

The curious thing about chapter 4 is that even the people who correctly guessed the church as the location didn't actually get what the chapter was going to be.
Everyone expected an Evil Bishop, an euphoric anti-religion plot, commentary on religion being escapism or whatever while the actual chapter was really 50% music, 30% a video game prophecy and 20% horror.

>>719752740
>Asian pussy can either save the world or destroy it.
What did he mean by this?

>>719751642
Where the fuck is the spider toby you asshole

>>719753518
spider asshole...

>>719753298
I never expected an anti-religion but I did expect an actual ruler.

>>719753571
Reminder: magic food is absorbed immediately on consumption, leaving no waste behind.
Her Spider Donut is completely clean and very tight.

>>719752740
>tfw both of them missed out on secret passionate premarital sex when toriel was nearby
they were robbed, if only chara could've cooled it long enough to have goat/ human hybrids to make her rethink things

>>719753298
>Everyone expected an Evil Bishop
Why, cause of chess?

>>719753921
We have AUs for that.

>>719754424
that, plus Le Evil Church is a classic JRPG trope, and Toby loves to play with those

>>719740445
Isn't licking wounds a thing for deer?

you know, i just realized that lowtax is to shmorky, what hussie is to fox. only, toby fox is not a diaper furry pedophile and hussie never stole his canadian wife's green card to keep her chained to him

>>719754424
One of Jackenstein's boards features a King, a Queen, a Knight and then a Bishop. Then it immediately derails the chess pattern with a flower and a knife.

>>719752740
is krid still around? why do all the best black artists have severe mental spats krubby...

>>719754817
>>719754424
>chess
>you defeat the king first
???

>>719750860
A lot of these aren't even red herrings, it's just literal guesses based off cliffhangers that people convinced themselves were facts

>>719754875
Huh, so that's the artists name. I always wondered who the artist was for the big titty Chara picture the Charabro posts.

>>719754424
https://youtu.be/I0ZEKULP6SM

When is Toby gonna have a hot springs chapter?

>>719755338
good lord. i have not seen that one before. yeah, drowsykrid or just krid.

>>719750860
there's plenty enough in the story to make educated guesses on shit, people are just stupid and I'm starting to think a lot of people who play these games are illiterate as well. there are way too many people who think dess is a human, and the question kris' motivations shouldn't be a big point of debate when the game practically beats us over the head with it in chapter 2.

>>719755078
the idea with chess theory was that the bosses went in descending order of piece value: King, Queen, rook, bishop, (Roaring) Knight, pawn (Kris/the Vessel), and then the player themselves. it seemed a lot more convincing before the ch3/4 drop.

>>719755409
>Home Video
I'm not watching this

>>719754424
Chess Theory has been a blight on the fandom since 2018

For snowgrave/weird route should I fight the secret bosses for the shards? I barely scraped by with ch3's fight so I'm dreading doing that again.

>>719755186
>>719755489
>KRIS!!! DON'T BELIEVE [[Anything You See On TV!]] THE MAN'S A CRIMINAL, I TELL YOU!! A CRIMINAL!!
>TO [$!$!] ME OVER RIGHT AT THE [Good part]!? WHAT ARE YOU, A [Gameshow Host]!?
>three years of nothing but a creepy smile over a static screen
He was very setting up certain expectations for Tenna that were immediately trashed.
>but spamton is le liar
It makes for a weak narrative when misleading foreshadowing is explained like that
>you just wanted the story you made up in your head
Take a look at most fanmade Tenna concepts, jerkass Tenna was by far the most common concept

And I don't even hate the canon Tenna, I just think the foreshadowing was shit.

>>719755449
Saw it on rule 34. Sadly his only FemFrisk one there.

>>719756348
Yes, for the twisted sword.

>>719756348
Yes, the equipment from the secret bosses is very powerful and there's going to be some kind of payoff in the future for collecting both the Shadow Crystals and the ThornRing (currently only available in Snowgrave)
The Black Shard is an extremely powerful weapon for Kris, you'll tear through everything in Chapter 4 with it, especially the final boss
If you've beat The Knight once you can do it again. It's actually gotten easier with the last patch, the hitboxes on the sword attack are better.

>>719751314
>everyone else is doing Peanuts dance
>Kris is doing Russian dance
wtf, Kris is a spy?

>>719756565
Susie if she regularly ate actual food

thoughts on this ch1 genderbent susie greentext i found while searching the archives for treasure
>captcha YAR2G

>>719751314
What are the lore implications of Peanuts existing in Deltarune?

>>719756675
I thought the shading in his mouth looked like sharp pointy teeth for a second

>>719756816
Kris is a blockhead who's into girls who are mean to him.

>>719756374
i hate that the tenna/spamton schism boils down to "i guess spamton got told over the phone that tenna was gonna fuck him, but it seems like tenna had no such intentions" and that that's the most we're going to get about it unless mr. phonecaller becomes important if he isn't gaster

Reminder that Chara shat and vomited himself to death.
Reminder that it was all for nothing in the end.
Reminder that his beloved stepbrother disowned him.

>>719756617
Dammit I guess I'll do it all then, I totally forgot about the Twisted Sword. I read about it while reading about Snowgrave.
>>719756643
Unless the last patch came out VERY recently it won't be any different, I'm just bad. I only started DR in the past month.

>>719756374
>>KRIS!!! DON'T BELIEVE [[Anything You See On TV!]] THE MAN'S A CRIMINAL, I TELL YOU!! A CRIMINAL!!
that line isn't even about tenna, it's about the knight. the knight is the "sensation on your screen". from tenna's shitty intro, that's why that line shows up alongside the not-tenna static smile that also shows up on the TV in chapter 2.

>>719755950
Noelle really was bullshitting when she said Susie has a tail

>>719757291
the phone person is associated with strings and guitars and "mysteriously disappeare

>>719757291
>unless mr. phonecaller becomes important if he isn't gaster
My working theory is that Eram bonked Gaster in the head and started saying shit over his phone, not unlike the Goner Maker sequence. Gaster is just watching it all go batshit with curiosity, his only actual worry are the eggs/the Forgotten Man who is Grandpa Semi who might be a split personality from Gaster

>>719757716
eram IS gaster anon, they share multiple phrases in chapter 3

>>719757716
>Eram bonked Gaster in the head and started saying shit over his phone
>the entire plot of the game is just splash damage from the guys in the Bunker fucking with each other and getting into comical sitcom antics
holy fuck that would be funny

>>719757716
grandpa semi being physical split from gaster is an interesting idea
ties back into him being split across time and space, too

>>719721423 (OP)
made for BWC

>>719756786
All of this reminded me of a friend I had. Didn't try to make me gay (i think) but he would pull a lot of this crap. Thank God I cut him off.

>>719757912
Many characters share phrases, Eram feels closer to Chara but he is also the one talking to you on the Undertale Sound Test
>>719757921
the mikes were foreshadowing all along
>>719757985
Gaster is the emotionless curiosity and Grandpa Semi is the friend who cares, Eram could be the sadism or something

>>719747543
>Adopted after mysteriously losing his family
>Adopted by a wealthy noble family
>Attempts to poison his father
>Rejects his humanity
>Kills his brother and himself during a plot to take revenge on the world
>Comes back as an inhuman demon with unimaginable power
>Red eyes
Face it, Dio Chara is canon. Speedwagon would smell the evil on him.

>>719757638
bane?

>>719757921
>SORRY, I WASN'T FEELING WELL THAT DAY. IT MUST HAVE BEEN SOMETHING I HATE. YOU KNOW HOW IT IS, TRYING TO EAT VOID DOGS.

>500
gg

>>719758849
who's the corpse

>>719758849
we love tv on this board

"Eram" isn't a real character
The thing you fight to get the Mantle is literally just the Mantle
If you're putting a name on the thing that talks to Kris during the game it seems very easy to just point the finger at FRIEND. But of course FRIENDfags are rabid schizos so they've been busy trying to convince people FRIEND is The Knight instead

i'll be honest the thought of kris being a woman is really funny because every stupid ass who actually buys into the susie/noelle shit would be ignoring such a more natural lesbian relationship
>t. friends with five butch lesbians the people you meet in woodworking rings dude

>>719758445
they also share a FRIEND anon.

>>719758979
krusiefags are a powerfully ally
all that needs to be done is to rightfully shame selfinsertfags and keep kris and susie in character
something that suselle fails to do

>>719758975
>"Eram" isn't a real character
the most idiotic take physically possible.

>>719758954
looks like catti

>>719756565
god i wish i had a big belly tomboy brute gf with average tits and a big ass

>>719721423 (OP)
made for BWC

>ywn have a backstabber childhood friend deer gf to hit from behind
all i want is to fuck her two-faced ass in front of her crush and make her feel incomprehensible feelings

>"You should thank Tenna for brightening everything up."
>"In the once upon a time, there was a land like purple cliffs."
>"A frozen waste, watery basin, a metal desert."
>"But, this theater was built upon that... and, it grew."
>"Not everyone liked the change. Some people left."
>"Of course, that was in the days of the black-and-white."
>basically describing the house without Tenna as Undertale, the Ruins, Snowdin, Waterfall, Hotland, perhaps CORE and New Home/black-and-white battle sprites
>when you go downstairs in the kitchen there's the fridge, the sink, the oven, the microwave, and the trashcan with Asgore's flowers blooming
KINO

>>719758975
Eram knows if snowgrave happens, and you first see FRIEND in ch2, that can't be a coincidence

I'll be gone for a while with Silksong's release.

Here is my attempt at cobbling the Prophecy texts:

THE PROPHECY, WHICH WHISPERS AMONG THE SHADOWS.

THE LEGEND OF THIS WORLD.

A WORLD BASKED IN PUREST LIGHT. BENEATH IT, GREW ETERNAL NIGHT.

IF THE FOUNTAINS FREED, THE ROARING CRIES. AND TITANS SHAPE FROM DARKENED EYES.

THE LIGHT AND DARK, BOTH BURNING DIRE. A COUNTDOWN TO THE EARTH'S EXPIRE

BUT LO, ON HOPES AND DREAMS THEY SEND. THREE HEROES AT THE WORLD'S END.

THE FIRST HERO. THE CAGE, WITH HUMAN SOUL AND PARTS!

THE SECOND HERO. THE GIRL, WITH HOPE CROSSED ON HER HEART.

THE THIRD HERO. THE PRINCE, ALONE IN DEEPEST DARK.

THEY'LL HEAR THE RING OF HEAVEN'S CALL. THEY'LL SEE THE TAIL OF HELL TAKE CRAWL.

THE KNIGHT WHICH MAKES WITH BLACKENED KNIFE.

SHALL DUEL WITH HEROES STRIFE BY STRIFE.

(ch1)

THE POINTY-HEADED WILL SAY "TOOTHPASTE," AND THEN "BOY."

(ch2)

THE QUEEN'S CHARIOT CANNOT BE STOPPED.

(ch3)

THE LORD OF SCREENS CLEAVED RED BY BLADE.

(ch4)

AXE CARVED BY THE TORTOISE'S GRAND HAMMER.

(ch5)

JOCKINGTON GROWS THE BEARD.

LOVE FINDS ITS WAY TO THE GIRL.

THE FLOWER MAN, TRAPPED IN ASYLUM.

COLDWATER FELL FROM THE TOP OF THE SKY.

(ch6)

ROOTS

GALLERY

(ch7)

THE LAST PROPHECY. THE STORY'S END.

AND THEN, WHEN ALL HOPE IS LOST FOR THE TALE.

THE FINAL TRAGEDY UNVEILS.

TO SAVE THE WORLDS, THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY.

FOR TO SAVE THE WORLDS, WE LAST OF ALL SAY,

[Line destroyed by Susie]

AND LAST, WAS THE GIRL. AT LAST, WAS THE GIRL.

THE ANGEL, BANISHED, WILL FINALLY MEET WITH ITS DESIRE.

ONLY THEN, WILL THE WORLDS BE SAVED.

It's been a long time

>>719759508
(ch1)
THE POINTY-HEADED WILL SAY "TOOTHPASTE," AND THEN "BOY."
(ch2)
THE QUEEN'S CHARIOT CANNOT BE STOPPED.
(ch3)
THE LORD OF SCREENS CLEAVED RED BY BLADE.
(ch4)
AXE CARVED BY THE TORTOISE'S GRAND HAMMER.
(ch5)
THE FLOWER MAN, TRAPPED IN ASYLUM
(ch6)
THE ANGEL, BANISHED, MEETS WITH ITS DESIRE
(ch7)
AND LAST WAS THE GIRL, AT LAST WAS THE GIRL

>Desschads get a full honest thread
I kneel

>>719760070
>Ch 5 is asgore
Uh oh

>>719759364
i think what they're saying is "this is an old house, so old that it had black-and-white televisions at one point" but i like what you're saying