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Anonymous No.720528550 [Report] >>720529578 >>720530503 >>720530603 >>720530989 >>720531052 >>720531067 >>720531238 >>720531467 >>720532082 >>720532662 >>720533205 >>720533575 >>720534813 >>720536040 >>720536389 >>720537945
>2025
>still using inferior software emulation instead of vastly superior MiSTer FPGA hardware emulation
Why...?
Anonymous No.720528762 [Report]
waiting for mine to ship orz
Anonymous No.720529151 [Report]
Genuinely love my MiSTer. I've used it practically every day for almost two years now.
Anonymous No.720529578 [Report] >>720529687 >>720530124
>>720528550 (OP)
I only play megaman and castlevania. what's the best nes, snes and gba emulator for the fat ps2? I wanna play x2 and super castlevania
Anonymous No.720529687 [Report] >>720529772
>>720529578
>emulating on fat PS2
nigga wtf are you doing. enjoy your dogshit performance, inaccuracies out the ass, and shit tons of input lag
Anonymous No.720529772 [Report] >>720529961
>>720529687
>buy new hardware
Why...?
Anonymous No.720529961 [Report] >>720530242
>>720529772
not him, luv my ps2, but the only reason you'd emulate on it is for the novelty of "hurr durr zomg look nintendo on playstation", just about fucking everything is awful
Anonymous No.720530124 [Report]
>>720529578
That's cool as fuck, I remember loving SNES emulation on PSP in like 2010/2011
Anonymous No.720530242 [Report] >>720530408 >>720533516 >>720536353
>>720529961
I emulate because I don't want to buy physical games or software and I don't care if simon jumps 1 attosecond slower than normal.
the goal is to plug & play. this is why people hate retroarch.
Anonymous No.720530408 [Report]
>>720530242
unfortunately, being this stupidly reductive doesn't track with reality, and if jrpgs and a walking sim weren't all i played on snes station, i would actually be a lot more vitriolic
Anonymous No.720530503 [Report] >>720530561 >>720530637
>>720528550 (OP)
>still using inferior software emulation instead of vastly superior MiSTer FPGA hardware emulation
Expensive and inaccessible.

Consider the following: When playing a challenging arcade game, it is better to play the version everyone else is playing. People choose to play M2 ports of shmups because those are the versions with online replays that everyone is scoring on. If you were to buy a $450 mister and crt, your clears would mean less than the jap who 1cc'd it on his switch. In this way, mister is taking a fundamentally wrong and losing direction, and it's better to seek ways make more accurate emulation more accessible to as many people as possible. I see this as something for retro enthusiasts to collect, not for people who are interested in playing video games.
Anonymous No.720530561 [Report] >>720530729
>>720530503
tranny poorfag
Anonymous No.720530603 [Report]
>>720528550 (OP)
dat sootikin ashtray
Anonymous No.720530637 [Report] >>720530801
>>720530503
>retard with babby's first shitclears
>thinking anyone cares about his dogshit score buried deep in the leaderboard
Anonymous No.720530672 [Report]
buy an ad you fucking faggot
Anonymous No.720530715 [Report] >>720530804
How's the N64 core these days?
Anonymous No.720530729 [Report] >>720530929 >>720531702
>>720530561
I have $40,000 in the bank right now and I'd rather play dodonpachi daioujou re:incarnation on my ps4 and my spare 1080p Asus tuf monitor in tate mode than go pick up my old zenith crt from my parents house and slap a mister on it. Even then the CRT would not mirror the visuals of an arcade cabinet, that would cost many thousands of dollars.
Anonymous No.720530801 [Report] >>720530929
>>720530637
>muh shitclears
It's not about being the best, it's about being on the same floor as everyone else. You don't want to be the idiot playing ps3 mvc2 when everyone else is playing together on the flycast.
Anonymous No.720530802 [Report] >>720530869
i wish this troonimai avatarfag would get banned on the grounds of being such a fucking pleb alone, good fucking god
Anonymous No.720530804 [Report]
>>720530715
Basically perfect. Conker, Jet Force Gemini, and RE2 are the only games with issues that are inherent to the limitations of the MiSTer and all of those run perfect with patches that automatically apply.

Besides that it has better compatibility and latency than Ares, with the only issues being a handful of games with attract screens too fast (gameplay unaffected) or other very minor timing issues
Anonymous No.720530869 [Report] >>720530926
>>720530802
This nigga is mad
Anonymous No.720530926 [Report]
>>720530869
disgust isn't the same as anger, i'm afraid, esl-kun
Anonymous No.720530929 [Report] >>720531116
>>720530729
>$40,000 in bank account
>bank account
fucking retard lmao

>>720530801
The best players are Japanese superplayers on original arcade hardware. The scores are platform agnostic regardless. If you're a good player, it doesn't matter (read: not you and your baby's first shitclears)
Anonymous No.720530989 [Report]
>>720528550 (OP)
>paying for emulation
>promoting snake oil bullshit
Anonymous No.720531052 [Report]
>>720528550 (OP)
Because games are fucking shit and I’m not spending more than I have to on them. Read: nothing.
Anonymous No.720531067 [Report]
>>720528550 (OP)
>buy mister
>box looks like its on fucking life support because inputs are on different sides
I'm hoping we one day get a 4K mister though, it'd be nice to get a better CRT shader going on it.
Anonymous No.720531116 [Report] >>720531146
>>720530929
>The best players are Japanese superplayers on original arcade hardware
Mmmmm nope, arcades are mostly dead. 2 out of the 3 best players of Battle Garegga currently use PS4.
Anonymous No.720531146 [Report] >>720531248
>>720531116
dumb tranny

https://shmups.wiki/library/STG_Hall_of_Records
Anonymous No.720531238 [Report] >>720531593
>>720528550 (OP)
Anonymous No.720531248 [Report] >>720531409
>>720531146
https://shmups.wiki/library/STG_Hall_of_Records/World_Record_Progression_Battle_Garegga
Anonymous No.720531409 [Report] >>720531642
>>720531248
You are talking about a few players for one specific game. Overwhelming vast majority of shmup records for all games are set on original arcade hardware by Japanese superplayers.

Regardless, the argument that you need to play on a specific platform for your record to "count" is nonsense because
a) that's not true in the slightest and
b) you are not even remotely close in the slightest to a WR-tier player, you have low scoring garbage shitclears that any novice player could scrounge together in a couple days
Anonymous No.720531467 [Report]
>>720528550 (OP)
Do we really need two shill threads up?
Anonymous No.720531593 [Report]
>>720531238
MTC
Anonymous No.720531642 [Report] >>720531720 >>720531805
>>720531409
>Overwhelming vast majority of shmup records for all games are set on original arcade hardware by Japanese superplayers.
Arcade accurate M2 ports are new. I am specifically using Battle Garegga as an example because it's THE scoring game and can be optimized further even today. You seem to be getting awfully asshurt. You keep crying that I'm not good at this or that but the 1ccs keep wracking up awfully fast these days, it's almost like I used to play these games a lot. I prefer to use the systems where these games are cheap and accessible, and replays are readily available, and I can only assume you've completely conceded on the point that mister is utterly worthless in this regard. No jap is uploading clears on a mister, that would be retarded. Can't wait to see how you're gunna try to squirm out of this one.
Anonymous No.720531702 [Report]
>>720530729
Is that a cute animu?
Anonymous No.720531720 [Report] >>720531760
>>720531642
>but the 1ccs keep wracking up awfully fast these days
Anonymous No.720531760 [Report] >>720531949
>>720531720
So you got nothing, got it.
Anonymous No.720531805 [Report] >>720532019 >>720532043 >>720532231
>>720531642
>it's almost like I used to play these games a lot.
Yet you only have baby's first shitclear with garbage scoring. Curious!

>No jap is uploading clears on a mister, that would be retarded.
People upload clears and even WRs on emulator, MiSTer, original hardware, or console ports. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Anonymous No.720531949 [Report]
>>720531760
No, I just thought that was fucking hilarious. Not only are you a shitter, but you act like you are some hardcore elite level player despite barely even being able to get basic low-scoring shitclears.
Anonymous No.720532019 [Report] >>720532575
>>720531805
If you are going to talk so much shit about other people's arcade clears, you better start posting yours.
Not even defending the avatarfag and his crippling retardation, but your entire argument relies on larping as a superplayer.
Anonymous No.720532043 [Report] >>720532575 >>720532604 >>720532693
>>720531805
>People upload clears and even WRs on emulator, MiSTer, original hardware, or console ports
Where's the mister battle garegga high score? You keep moving the goal posts and being disengenous. The argument for mister, and in this OP in particular, is that mister is superior to software emulation, however, it sure seems like battle garegga "super players" prefer the ps4 version for very obvious reasons. You've already moved the goal posts to "well people upload WRs (we're already running away from shmup scoring now, gotta reframe this) on anything!" But the fact of the matter is, if this is the case then mister is clearly the loser, as M2 ports have features that don't exist on Mister while being 1/10 of the price. Additionally, by buying M2 ports you are supporting more ports and new games, whereas by buying a mister you're funding someone's HRT medication. This really isn't much of an argument, you lost like 5 posts ago.
Anonymous No.720532082 [Report] >>720532389
>>720528550 (OP)
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjYmSniQyM [Embed]
>Mesen: 118/125
>Neshawk: 115/125
>NES_MiSTer: 110/125
>Ares: 100/125
>puNes: 96/125
>Nintendulator: 94/125
>Nintendo Classic Mini: Nintendo Entertainment System: 94/125
Anonymous No.720532231 [Report] >>720532575
>>720531805
i also don't think you'd find japanese people uploading clears under a mister category, with flashcarts are legal concequences and not just "taboo"
Anonymous No.720532389 [Report] >>720532515
>>720532082
>pimping a $500 FPGA because it scores 3 more points higher than a free emulator
What is the fixation with "perfecting" hardware emulation when software emulation is already perfectly capable of performing at the same level as original hardware?
Anonymous No.720532515 [Report] >>720532542
>>720532389
why not both
Anonymous No.720532542 [Report]
>>720532515
I guess, why not.
Anonymous No.720532575 [Report] >>720532707 >>720532871
>>720532019
>larping as a superplayer
>larping
>he doesn't know
lmao

>>720532043
There's like less than 5 people on Earth actually competitively scoring Battle Garegga currently. What the fuck are you talking about retard? I never said anyone had to get their clear on a MiSTer, I said the platform you get the clear on, or even a WR, on doesn't fucking matter. You are just making excuses for your shitclears and shit scores.

MiSTer is one of the best places to play retro games, because 99.9% of games do NOT have extremely high quality M2 ports like Battle Garegga does, plus that would very quickly get expensive paying $40 for each game. PS4 Battle Garegga port is a very low-lag, feature-rich port with leaderboards, replays, tools, and more accessible and convenient than playing at the arcade (many Japanese players view emulation as taboo).

>M2 ports have features that don't exist on Mister while being 1/10 of the price.
Are you actually fucking braindead? You are comparing one single game, a modern port with a bunch of extra features, to a device (which is $200 btw, not $500), that is capable of emulating many thousands of games across many dozens of platforms, arcade, PC, and console. The level of brain damage is truly astounding.

>>720532231
Yeah the Japs are so fucked, emulation of all kinds is viewed is immoral, impure, and probably illegal. They are so cucked over there it's actually unreal. They pay for shitty arcade ports instead of just using MAME/MiSTer (there are some great ports that do offer some small advantage over MAME/MiSTer, but most are garbage)
Anonymous No.720532586 [Report]
https://www.4chan.org/advertise
Anonymous No.720532604 [Report]
>>720532043
>whereas by buying a mister you're funding someone's HRT medication.
MiSTer is free software. The only way anyone is making money off it is being a prebuilt reseller (all chinks) or from Patreon.
Anonymous No.720532662 [Report]
>>720528550 (OP)
Yes!
I use a heckin 8bitdo on my mister reddit fpga hardware while speninding money on my umamuse vbucks to really fit in with the other retards!
Anonymous No.720532693 [Report]
>>720532043
>brown anime tranny
>they are a complete fucking drooling retard every time
why does this keep happening?
Anonymous No.720532707 [Report] >>720532801
>>720532575
Post 'em or quit the larping.
Anonymous No.720532785 [Report]
I'm not paying $1000 for a FaGPA
Anonymous No.720532801 [Report] >>720533024
>>720532707
I have no reason to. I don't care if you believe me and I would rather just watch you seethe.
Anonymous No.720532871 [Report] >>720533306 >>720533361 >>720533601
>>720532575
>You are comparing one single game
There are many M2 ports and they keep making them because people keep buying them. A lot of these shmup devs, like CAVE, stopped making games because arcades are no longer a viable source of revenue for them, and people did not buy the console ports.

And it doesn't stop at M2 ports. If you want to talk about emulation there are over 8,000 games on fightcade, which have lobbies and matchmaking that properly displays region and connectivity, and net code that modern ports unfortunately *can't* match. When you put it all together you can see how stupid it is and why the retro scene has become synonymous with collecting and buying overpriced fomo hardware, not playing. Retro doesn't mean a player of old games any more.
Anonymous No.720532927 [Report]
>NES: free
>emulator: free
>muh feels progaymable gay aggay: $700
Gee, wonder which one I should pick
Anonymous No.720533024 [Report] >>720533418
>>720532801
If you didn't care about people believing you, there would be no point in posting anything at all. No shit you don't get to act like you are the best player around if you aren't even showing some sort of proof.
Anonymous No.720533150 [Report]
my pi 5 is more versatile
Anonymous No.720533205 [Report]
>>720528550 (OP)
Not necessarily MiSTer but I'm definitely considering getting a cab for arcade games in the near future. For now I'm still very clueless about how to set something up, but I don't expect too much other than being able to play arcade games close enough to how you would on a real machine.
Anonymous No.720533306 [Report]
>>720532871
CAVE is still in the business but you don't want to know the details believe me
Anonymous No.720533361 [Report] >>720533683
>>720532871
Again, you fucking retard, we aren't just literally talking about some .01% subset of the library that is only shmups with M2 ports. We are talking about the entire Generation 1-5 of gaming.

And even for these M2 ports, no one is even playing those. There are zero new WRs set on them, and even Dangun Feveron had a new WR set in 2025 but that was played on PCB (by a fucking American no less), same with Ketsui, same with DOJ.

>If you want to talk about emulation there are over 8,000 games on fightcade
already discussed numerous times ITT the advantages of MiSTer over software emulation.
Anonymous No.720533418 [Report]
>>720533024
shut the fuck up faggot, I don't care about your feelings.
Anonymous No.720533516 [Report] >>720533704
>>720530242
Wtf, Retroarch took me like an hour max to configure and get to playing while I was retarded on benzos with beer years ago. It's not that complicated.
Anonymous No.720533575 [Report]
>>720528550 (OP)
Taito Type X and NESiCAxLive 2 were here. OP is a bitch .
Anonymous No.720533601 [Report] >>720533757
>>720532871
>buying all these overpriced ports to try to compete as some uber hardcore superplayer
>can barely eke out a baby's first first loop shitclear with non-existent scoring
Anonymous No.720533683 [Report] >>720533786
>>720533361
>already discussed numerous times ITT the advantages of MiSTer over software emulation.
Where dude? It's 8000 games. I've bought 3 official fighting game ports in my entire life because I needed it for tourmanents, and they were all code mystics (God do I hate snk but somehow I keep getting pulled into playing these shit games) and versus fbneo the only difference is its easier to pull 1 framers. Why do I need a $450 device to play single player NES games? That's retarded.

I've already made my argument, that the differences are negligible and misted is lacking in modern features emulators and ports are capable of.
Anonymous No.720533704 [Report] >>720533793
>>720533516
make a tutorial and share it with the class then.
Anonymous No.720533757 [Report]
>>720533601
>try to compete as some uber hardcore superplayer
I buy em cuz they're convenient and play nice and have arrange modes/new features and I can watch people's replays and figure out wtf they're doing instead of watching some youtubers tutorial video on a singular ship type.
Anonymous No.720533786 [Report] >>720533970
>>720533683
far superior input latency
far superior audio latency
far superior accuracy
can easily hook up to CRT
can easily use in MiSTercade JAMMA setup

>I've already made my argument, that the differences are negligible and misted is lacking in modern features emulators and ports are capable of.
You are a coping poorfag, there is no convincing you. You will just say xyz aren't important because you are too poor to be able to achieve them.
Anonymous No.720533793 [Report] >>720533907
>>720533704
They're already on YouTube, ffs.
Anonymous No.720533797 [Report]
Hardware emulation is great but the way a couple posters carry on about it here is rather PCegan. No one cares about theoretically perfect emulation besides the sweats
Anonymous No.720533907 [Report] >>720534043
>>720533793
post a link or I'll keep using duckstation.
Anonymous No.720533970 [Report] >>720534042 >>720534143 >>720534324
>>720533786
But what is the purpose of all this if humans are not playing them? Why does 1 frame less of input lag matter for 2 hour long nes games? I already played through the entire nes library 2 decades ago. It's boring to me now.
Anonymous No.720534042 [Report]
>>720533970
>I'm a stupid poorfag tranny with zero standards
ok
Anonymous No.720534043 [Report] >>720534106
>>720533907
Then keep using Duckstation, I don't care.
Anonymous No.720534105 [Report] >>720534315
>All these people arguing over which emulator is the best, while some random dude got a world record playing in a browser through a random emulator site probably on his campus computer, lol
Why even bother
Anonymous No.720534106 [Report]
>>720534043
retroarch is shit and murderers
Anonymous No.720534143 [Report] >>720534228
>>720533970
>I already played through the entire nes library 2 decades ago.
I was wondering what kind a retard plays games exactly one time (with savestates of course), now I see it's tranime avatarfags.
Anonymous No.720534228 [Report] >>720534294 >>720534324
>>720534143
I've played through mega man 2 about 300 times. I don't want to play mega man any more. I don't play uninteresting games multiple times, obviously, and a lot of the nes library isn't very good, despite being so small.
Anonymous No.720534294 [Report] >>720534764
>>720534228
The NES (Famicom) has thousands of games and ROMhacks though.
>I don't want to play mega man any more.
Then you never had taste to begin with.
Anonymous No.720534315 [Report]
>>720534105
My favorite mode of emulation is the psychos who beat the ROMs in Smash Brawl within their 5-10 minute timer
Anonymous No.720534319 [Report] >>720534449 >>720535339
Anyone going to post which arcade games you are playing?
Anonymous No.720534324 [Report] >>720534926
>>720534228
>>720533970
>NES library sucks!!!
>proceeds to play dogshit shmups for hours on end
lmao kys retard
Anonymous No.720534330 [Report]
nevermind the frogfags, WHAT THE FUCK DOES THE TROON HAVE TO DO WITH YOUR ARGUMENT?
Anonymous No.720534449 [Report]
>>720534319
>playing
Why would I play games when I can play any game I could ever want?
Anonymous No.720534764 [Report] >>720535075
>>720534294
>The NES (Famicom) has thousands of games
The NES has 1,378 games, only about 750ish localized in the US. I don't need to replay famista '93 multiple times to know that it is shit. A huge amount of the nes' tiny library is shovelware.
Anonymous No.720534813 [Report]
>>720528550 (OP)
don't care, i just want to goon to the mister addoon sticker girl.
Anonymous No.720534926 [Report] >>720535075
>>720534324
Consoles are shit, arcade games are based. It's that simple.
Anonymous No.720535075 [Report] >>720535145
>>720534764
>1000+ games
>tiny library
This is your mind on HRT.
>>720534926
Youtuber core "opinion"
Anonymous No.720535145 [Report] >>720535308 >>720535408
>>720535075
19,000 games released on steam last year. Even if only 1% of those were playable that's still a better line up than the nes. From 1 year.
Anonymous No.720535308 [Report] >>720535508
>>720535145
I don't give a fuck about the mountains of shovelware on digital storefronts. 1000+ games is already an incredibly high amount. Every fucking time a console or platform has 1 gadzillion games some zero IQ retard chimes in with "did you know 1 percent" faggotry. You know what platform has the most games? Any of them on mobile phones. You know which ones have zero good games? All of those storefronts.
Anonymous No.720535339 [Report] >>720535382 >>720535703
>>720534319
Still her game.
So far so good when it comes to the VS CPU mode, I could clear level4, level8(arcade, and twice for both playables), normal and hard(on PS2), got a 1m+ score from the maxed out chain bonus multiple times already, but I'm still hopeless when it comes to getting past level 20+ in the 1P mode, lucked out to 30 once tho. Sounds like at some point the only way to continue is to start and endless chain and that's absurdly difficult for me currently.
Anonymous No.720535382 [Report]
>>720535339
>on PS2
Ahem PS1*
Anonymous No.720535408 [Report]
>>720535145
enjoy your mountains of slop, subhuman tranny
Anonymous No.720535508 [Report] >>720535592
>>720535308
>I don't give a fuck about shovelware
>1000+ games is an incredibly high amount
Pick one. If you actually played the games you'd know what I was talking about. You know what I had when I was a kid? The TMNT nes game. And I beat it. Because its all i had. That game is ass. Post yourself beating that game right now. No savestates, let's see it. And then tell me the NES is full of masterpieces lol
Anonymous No.720535592 [Report] >>720535734
>>720535508
>1000 games isn't an incredibly high number because TMNT on NES is a notoriously bad game
HRT clearly atrophies the mind. I guarantee you've barely played shit too, since only a complete mindless retard would bring up digital shovelware dumping grounds otherwise.
Anonymous No.720535703 [Report] >>720535765 >>720535778
>>720535339
Bold of you implying I know which game is that. Reverse image search only gives me pictures of Cardcaptor Sakura.
Anonymous No.720535734 [Report] >>720535797
>>720535592
>the nes has hundreds of masterpieces, just trust me dude. zelda 2 is the best game ever.
Anonymous No.720535765 [Report]
>>720535703
Money Idol Exchanger
>pictures of Cardcaptor Sakura
Well google isn't wrong, check who voices MIE Exchanger and CCS Sakura.
Anonymous No.720535778 [Report]
>>720535703
Looks like money exchanger
Anonymous No.720535797 [Report] >>720535906
>>720535734
Zelda II shits on every single one of those 1 bazillion games released on Steam last year and every last game on mobile phones. It isn't even close too. People who obsess over numbers will literally never have taste in games.
Anonymous No.720535906 [Report] >>720535915
>>720535797
Yeah bro, silksong is pure diarrhea compared to Zelda mother fucking 2
Anonymous No.720535915 [Report] >>720535986
>>720535906
You got that fuckin right.
Anonymous No.720535986 [Report] >>720536079
>>720535915
Okay then, enjoy playing Zelda 2 a couple thousand times on your mister. I'll be playing decent video games instead.
Anonymous No.720536040 [Report] >>720536075
>>720528550 (OP)
Consumer use case?
Anonymous No.720536075 [Report]
>>720536040
Playing old vidya on cab I would guess.
Anonymous No.720536079 [Report]
>>720535986
>enjoy playing Zelda 2 a couple thousand times on your mister.
I will, much better than modern slop.
Anonymous No.720536353 [Report] >>720536440
>>720530242
>this is why people hate retroarch
Are people really this retarded? I thought the retroarch hate was a meme.
It takes maybe a few hours to figure out even on your own and much less if you actually use google to guide you through it.
Anonymous No.720536389 [Report]
>>720528550 (OP)
>three fucking threads right now
Wow you shills are going hard today, huh? Trying to scam some retarded tendies that were around for the direct, I guess?
Anonymous No.720536440 [Report]
>>720536353
I very much don't like retroarch but I didn't need a guide to set anything up. Literally only reason I bother with it is because it happens to be very convenient for hacked Switch, there are standalone homebrew emulators but they are very hit or miss compared to RA cores
Anonymous No.720537862 [Report]
I'm playing X2 on my ps2 with RA. the music sucks and Crystal Snail is a green square.
Anonymous No.720537945 [Report] >>720537995
>>720528550 (OP)
MiSTer is neat, but it's incredibly niche, and I really wouldn't recommend investing in hardware unless you have a CRT with component/scart or old VGA tube monitor to really take advantage of it. Everyone else is probably better served by investing in a steam deck and loading it with emulators.
Anonymous No.720537995 [Report] >>720538117
>>720537945
Fuck off retard. MiSTer is just as good if used with a 4k TV
Anonymous No.720538117 [Report]
>>720537995
>Fuck off retard. MiSTer is just as good if used with a 4k TV
No it's not, you're forgetting that the internal scaler maxes out at 1440p, so you need an expensive upscaler like the retrotink 4k to upscale to 4k, and apply good filters to mimic a CRT on a 4k display.