Thread 535693447

Progress edition

>Demo Days
Next: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-64
Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-63
Older: https://hackmd.io/LhEB6VCZSx-oBalI2cWWoA

>AGDG resources
https://hackmd.io/dLaaFCjDSveKVeEzqomBJw

>Helpful links
New Threads: >>>/vg/agdg
Archive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg/
/agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/
Steam Games by AGDG: https://agdg-steam.netlify.app/

>How to WebM
https://obsproject.com
https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
https://github.com/michaelmob/WebMCam

>Previous thread
>>535605667

I'll do it. I'll make a game. You'll see.

>>535693608
I missed this post.

>>535693536
hopefully no cancer. My mom might have thyroid cancer too and her operation is near.
good luck dude

Is there a quick way I can fraud through the early stages of drawing? I really just want to make passable sprites

>anon brought back the progress compilation
Finally. No more whining bitches about who gets in and that progress doesn't get posted.

>Bad writing
That's funny, because the literary "good" writing boils down to an imitation of rethorical tricks or heminway and faulkner or bukowsky dick suckery.

"GOOD" writing in academia boils down to.

In that stormy night, free of the temptations that condemned the judio errante of macondo, meanwhile the thunderstorm hit the deepest areas of my soul, knowingly I was the culprit of the darkest secrets a soul could imagine, I was forced to accept that such temptation could only lead me madness, buried in my DNA, since the days of the macabeus rebellion, and thought all the hideous attempts at destruction of my blood lineage.
But here I am, finally free to end up such curse.

Sadly, not a lot of writers can write like this.
Allow me to express to people who care less, the assumptions of your mental malnutrition, for as I can only do a literary attrition, to the mental desolation, in your own mental indoctrination, that creates nothing but a visual fornication, towards the complete subjugation of your own spiritual constitution.

I also find funny how not a single writer can do this.
Fuck yeah nigga, this bitch 'ought he dould kame this hood and pretend he would that be, like that, you knowwhatImean, nigga?
Yeah nigga, time to suck some dickly dickly nigga, bitch ass nigga.
Fuck sum bitches, thats good sum shit youknowwhatimean, nigga?
that's good nigga.

meanwhile white people write shit like this.

Allow to interpret, clearly and dearly, the previously mentioned capabilities of your request, which I wasn't aware they were required to the completion of this task, for as such necesity wasn't totally obvious to the previously mentioned issue.
This means we have to retort back to the previous chapter of the book.

I see big post. I hide big post.

>>535693789
I thought why not for a change. It's been awhile.

>>535694079
Awhile is an understatement. It feels like it's been months.

>>535694137
I put the scripts on GitHub 3 years ago. Anyone could've, the JLMG text script and inb4404 might be broken though.
https://github.com/aggy-daggy/thread-image-generator

>>535694518
>aggy-daggy / agdgengine
>This branch is 2 commits ahead of, 19247 commits behind godotengine/godot:master
kek

>>535694915
agdgengine, good times back when things were looking really bad

Progress: Wrote the story.
Also, due to popular demand, font has been changed. Speed slider reworked because people kept being confused about how to use it. Finally, new difficulty "Easy" added. It’s the same as Normal, except the complete terrain is revealed, which I think can help a lot with understanding a mission. I’m trying to design the difficulty levels such that a perfect strategy will work without changes at any difficulty level. Not sure if it’s gonna work.

>>535693447 (OP)
blessed progress posters.

my personal deadline is 10 days.
I hope to make something for demo day so impactful, everyone will halt whatever they were doing to check it out.
But I'm not sure if I should, the itch website is so slow, and I never progress post to aggy so if I do make a good demo, it will just be good for itch for being allowed to host my groundbreaking game despite their shit server infrastructure and aggy will be mad at me for stealing everyone's thunder, and they will call me a tourist.
Maybe I shouldn't

>>535693447 (OP)
still tuggin that shyt out
aggy what do you want to see in a new trailer?

I love how very few videogame /fgg/ writers actually give personality to fighting game characters.

Like make the bitch whore pantsu HS clone, speak like.

um, yeah?
jijiji, I wont be defeated by your strong big arms, onichan.
I will become the strongest girl ever on martial arts.
no no no, don't look at my pantsus is too embarasing

And then have the ryu clone, like.
My past has come to bother me again.
Like a shadow of my own mental reflection, which I need to overcome.
No pussy, my lady, I wont fail for such tricks, losing my male mana can mean I've failed my training.

And then have a boxer speak like.
Shit, fugg, nigga.
I will crush your skull, bitch ass nigga.
This is the getto that ends your life, bitch cracka.

And then have a white male speak like.
Allow me to disgress from the conclusion, that this fight wont last any much more longer, so forebonding was foretold, in the overmorrow of the predictions that previously were confined to my calculations, free of my inner conclusion.

And then have a crazzy nigga be like.
KIIIIIIAAAAAA, I will kill you fuck you.
Fuck you fuck you, fuck you, I will kurushi you, KAMEEEEDDAAA, super hate, guide me.

And then have a big bitch ass tiddy whore speaks.
Yeah, timmy was hitting on me last night, you know?
I had to break his neck, I am afraid.
I honestly don't like when guys look at me like a meat prize, you know?
ladies have self respect, you know?

i just need something decently playable in 2 weeks...

>>535695770
>DD is in less than 20 days
Holy shit where does the time go

>>535696094
Nice Minecraft-like.

Would love to participate but I'm too selfconscious about my game being associated with pedophiles

experimenting with making levels
the town square
havent nailed the "artstyle" yet

>>535696318
Would love to participate but I'm too conflicted about handing aggy the greatest game of all time.

>>535693447 (OP)
blessed thread

dedicated to wagies

>>535696634
Shannon would disagree with your theorem considering there's a 4MB file limit.

>>535696835
Sorry I don't get the reference. But isn't that what happened with flyknight? He added his demo to demoday and aggy slapped the "made-by-agdg" lable on it.

>>535696490
Looking interesting, hope to see you in DD

>>535696969
So he added his game to the page that says
>This is a jam hosted by and for the AGDG community at 4chan.
>If you are not a part of the community then this jam is not for you.
and people slapped the "made-by-agdg" label on it?
Why would they do that?

>>535696318
Would love to participate but I'm too selfconscious about my game being associated with St*rd*w V*ll*y

>>535696748
My dream is to escape from my nightmare which is waging. I wouldn't mind working part time, but full time shift work is literally killing me. All my days off are spent recovering from not enough sleep.

>look up to a dev
>find out that not only does he have a girlfriend, they're married and have a kid
never again

>>535693768
>Is there a quick way I can fraud through the early stages of drawing?
Steal.

>>535699192
There's only two types of successful solodevs: In a relationship or trans.

>>535696318
this will be my response if someone digs enough to find that

>>535701401
so you're saying that I should...

>>535701584
I dont get it

>>535701638
Have sex, anon. You should have sex.

>>535702276
an impossible ordeal

>>535701401
name one successful solotranny

>>535701687
>NOOOO THIS DEV COMES FROM A PLACE WITH PEDO
>HE SOMEHOW MUST BE A PEDO TOO
>cool story but where were you when picrel happened?

>535702637
Is this what children think is a slam dunk argument?

I decided to take a day off to play League, but then I still worked on some tiny things, then learned about using hardcoded gradient table instead of random vec for noises, and Round Cube exists which has working UV, ico sphere a trash
tomorrow I will dev full time again

Fygoon, I apologize for the harm I have caused to you.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3716600/Mage_Arena/
You don't know what gamers want.

>>535703885
I decide what gamers want.

You all want to know what's the problem with this general? The problem is that it's not about its own topic anymore, it's not about developing games anymore and instead it's a huge circle jerk of the same 3-4 people vomiting the same dead stale memes over and over.

>>535703885
>voice commands
>proximity chat
>multiplayer co-op
>$2.99
I do know what gamers want.

>>535704083
Discord and its consequences have been a disaster for the thread.

>>535704083
It's not a meme, I'm 100% serious.

i need to get this patch out before hurricane erin or whatever its called levels florida

>>535703885
i don't care what gamers want

>>535696318
you're behind the news, 4chan is being targeted by UK and has imposed 20k pounds fine PER DAY.
Right now 4chan is on the good guys side as UK government is being universally hated by everyone, UK taxpayers included

>>535704276
All the devs moved to it, only the shitposters stayed here

Does your game have any cameos?

>>535703885
>voiced spells
I posted this idea here one time
won't be doing that again

i have a cool idea

>>535704531
plaese delete this, this guy is succesful but hes still trapped in the humiliation ritual?
so making it isnt even an escape? fucking why would i try then
i quit i fucking throw in the towel, FUCK!

>>535704539
I also posted this but no one believed me.

>>535693685
Cancer got my dog

>>535693447 (OP)
Seriously, how do we stop AI slop?

>>535704326
Godspeed

>>535704239
ah yes, the fake gamer slop blend

>>535703885
multiplayer = success

Gamers will eat any slop if it's cheap and has easy achievements

https://x.com/defold/status/1955653679694098483

instead of going all in on steam releases you can make simple web games with defold and earn a living while working on your main project
t. i work 4 months a year on low maintenance web games and then work on my game the rest of the year while improving at the same time, steam and itch are way saturated idk why people even bother with itch for web games unless its part of the future steam release strategy near end of dev but without having to go through early access

>>535693447 (OP)
See anons, this is where you went wrong, siding with the top half

>>535696490
what will the main character look like?

>>535703885
>friendslop
everyone knows that meta nigga

I think I'm an obscure internet lolcow and my game will never escape that

what do bros

>>535703885
>Early Access
Where is my bait video that talks about how EA games are not made with INTENTION. Wanting community feedback is a sign of INDECISIVENESS.

>>535703885
>gamers want a game to play with friends that's mechanically simple and priced low enough so that everyone can buy it, or even better cheap enough to gift four copies

>>535705130
It can't be stopped. The internet will be consumed. There are billions of retards on this planet who either don't see where this all leads or don't care

>>535705130
I have a lot of suspicion of some games being posted recently being AI slop desu

some of which are already pretty high on steam

>>535707087
>top = you can only blame yourself when you lose
>bottom = RNG provides you with enough cope that you don't blame yourself when you lose
At it's core, games are psychological manipulation. A game that manipulates its players into feeling good about themselves will be more successful than one that doesn't.

2*** left
2** left
3* left

>>535693447 (OP)
I get this when I try to log in to unity, what do?

what can a character class do when all of your power comes from equipment?
think path of exile, class only changes your character model and starting point on that fuckhuge tree

>>535708579
>he needs to log in before he can access his game
You already own nothing, and you are already happy.

>>535708723
stop browsing /v/ and work on your game

>>535708761
>argument ad boardium
I accept your concession

>>535708865
if only you could've accepted the gender you were born with

>>535707087
Bottom has a sense of progression. Your characters gets stronger over time, and you get the satisfaction of easily overpowering enemies that were once threatening to you.

I hate co-op games so much
I hate co-op gamers so much
Fuck you for having friends

>>535708723
Nothing, unless you want to restrict gear to certain classes.

>>535709642
>and you get the satisfaction of easily overpowering enemies that were once threatening to you.
Does doing that by improving your skills not give a sense of satisfaction?

>>535708579
You have to log into Unity? What the

>>535709642
I'm not sure I agree, the sense of progression in most roguelites is really thin, slight incremental upgrades and skipping a few dungeons at most. Most of the progression is increasing the loot table, which usually just means a lot of useless junk. And then you're encouraged to ramp up a difficulty slider for postgame anyway that makes all your slight upgrades completely moot.

Arpgs are what I play for character progression porn.

>>535709696
Sorry not sorry, loser

>husband+wife team
having a woman is literally the cheat code in game development

>>535709696
Posts like these is prolly why, y'know?

>>535704746
you should delete your friends from all socials
i deleted everyone i knew because they wanted to play co op slop like deep rock galactic and helldivers with me and called dave the diver an indie game.
that shit has 300 names in the credits, it was the final straw. normie friendslop gamers are the most disgusting worthless human beings on the planet.

>>535710129
This, if my friends want to have f*n, they're no friends of mine.

>>535709884
It's this unity hub thing, tried running the executable but it doesn't open.

>>535710448
I'm not trying to be an engine shitter but if you can get locked out of access to your own fucking game you need to pick a different engine, my man

>>535693936
>In that stormy night, free of the temptations that condemned the judio errante of macondo, meanwhile the thunderstorm hit the deepest areas of my soul, knowingly I was the culprit of the darkest secrets a soul could imagine, I was forced to accept that such temptation could only lead me madness, buried in my DNA, since the days of the macabeus rebellion, and thought all the hideous attempts at destruction of my blood lineage.
This writing was ass, like everything else you produce cris.

>>535710448
works on my machine

>>535710793
nobody wants to use godot, open sourcel

How much crueler could I be to the player?

>>535711054
Randomness is always the answer.

>>535708579
>jewnity user cucked again
You had your chance to jump ship during the runtime fee fiasco and you stayed there like an abused housewife.

There's no better engine than Unity

>>535711418
yes bro, godot is the future, look at all the fantastic games that were made in god-oh?
oh right, "the great exodus" only exposed all the poser devs as nodevs they are, top kek
it happened, what, two years ago? and there's still nothing on the horizon worth playing in that piece of shit engine
you are pathetic

>>535711519
>um sorry we need to... "adjust" 3 dollars (30% of what you made by the way) off your payment, got it goyling?

>>535709807
most people quit before ever feeling that

>>535711606
>say nothing about godot
>the abused unity slave lashes out
Girl you can use XNA for all I care. Doesn't change the fact that this unity guy doesn't treat you right

>>535709642
>>535707087
>top
>quarter-grubbing masochism fest where you "play by my rules"

>bottom
>making fun synergies with items you find to break the game

>>535712740
Tell that to the job market being 60% unity 40% unreal

>>535712789
hell I can simplify this even more
>top
>hard first boss

>bottom
>easy first boss

>>535712954
What does the job market have to do with amateur gamedev

>>535712954
>he works in the games industry as a unity pajeet
If that's the case you're a bigger cuck than I thought. And if you are a pro moving to unreal is still better for your prospects.

>>535712954
60% of the job market hires mobile slot machine developers and 40% of the job market hires AAA moviegame developers. What are you making?

Noticed a lot of successful devs come from the gambling industry, like Vampire Survivors dev

meta

>>535713969
Noticed a lot of successful indies are dentists, like World of Horror dev.

>>535714120
>>535713969
Noticed a lot of successful indies are normies with gfs

>>535714018
we need more 50+ yo indie devs

>you can copy and paste nodes/trees between scenes in godot editor
i... i shouldn't have discovered this after two years

Noticed a lot of successful indies are white men who grew up with gaming

>>535714632
Anon...

>>535714679
Hey that's me!

>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2678640/
loliCHADs won...

>>535714632
Why do that when you can pack them into a scene

>>535711519
>payment processor fees 2.28 USD
why would they take 20% (!!!) of your money?!
>itch.io share 1.09 USD
aren't you able to set it yourself? Why whould you put it at 10%? Put in 0 or 1 next time
>tax withheld 30%
it could be lower if you declare your residence , 30% is default value for business that doesn't have a treaty with US
>adjustements 3 USD
WHY, HOW, WHO decided that you need to have 3 bucks taken from you?

Anyway that's why my 8 bucks on itch are still chillin there. I think that I need to have much, much more money to even start the transfer, with low amount the costs are eating you whole.

>>535715490
I wonder what he would say about my game...

>>535715582
he would say you developed too much without getting feedback on the main gameplay loop

>>535713969
Literally me
>>535714265
Literally me
>>535714679
Literally me

Holy shit bros I'm gonna mak-
>>535711606
Damn, using godot is negating all my natural advantages

>>535693996
best game development clans?

>>535715801
people love my 'lay 'oops

tutorial progress, is this easy enough to understand but also introduce some problem solving?
i sure hope this is the right way forward to hook players

>>535715912
Look up "furry foot gooner nazi den" on discord

>>535715912
ku klux

>>535715801
>main gameplay loop
but my game isn't roguelike...

Spent the past three days barely making progress on a piss-easy coordination adjustment task for changing the scale of my world map. Could've been done in an hour or two if I framed it the right way from the start or asked AI. Whatever.

>>535716335
seems like absolute skinner box slop, would not even pick up
(yeah seems easy to understand, the speech bubble on top of the light is a cute touch)

>>535716335
I hate it
I hate when you have a wall of text and popups telling you what to do
game is treating you like a retard who can't tie his shoelaces

>>535715836
>natural advantage
>stupid enough to pick gobot
the only natural thing here is selection filtering you, haha!

>>535716687
Learn English, Raj.

>>535716657
i don't know what skinner box is

>>535716676
alright, how do i do it properly? (yes this tutorial can be skipped completely)

>>535716657
this is unironically highest grossing game in this thread, show some respect and learn a thing or three

>>535716676
I wish people like you found out about my game, but I guess we’re all busy devving.

>>535716876
Post proof?

>>535716837
I'm talking about natural selection sir, our nature classes talked about it sir

>>535716876
No I did pay respect, it comes off as absolutely generic trash that can easily be a success. It has almost AAA tier feeling to it. Cf. >>535716676
>>535716870
>i don't know what skinner box is
It goes
>do thing
>woooow!
>now do thing
>woooow!

How do I make a game that punishes players for being yesmen who accept all quests and try to please all sides in a conflict?

>>535717318
Way of the Samurai where they get shitty outcomes and endings but they don't get mad about it because you're encouraged to see all the different endings anyway?

>>535714418
I love how these anons think we'll watch the stupid yt clips they post
I did watch and cackled like a lunatic.

>>535717125
>>woooow!
fair, i really don't know what games do though, i've just been going off random advice in these threads

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3159000/Sunshine_Farm/#app_reviews_hash

shartdew if it wasn't made by the son of a boeing engineer

>>535718040
What the fuck is this shit

>>535717621
Don’t get me wrong, it’s a "good" and successful thing, I just personally hate it.
>>535717318
"Heard you’re working with now… <-500 reputation loss>"
I forget which game did this. Maybe UnderRail?
>>535718040
>fake 2d
>ai capsule
>a rushed, no good. bugged, visual disaster and more !
Yes, if this guy was the son of a Boeing engineer, his game’d probably not have that many bugs. (Though with Boeing these days getting more buggy)

>>535718040
this game wouldnt exist if stardew didnt
also aislop capsule, dev just literally set thousands of dollars on fire

>>535718040
boeing has had literally millions of engineers.
actually if he didn't have a loving girlfriend who supported him.

>>535718040
What compels a human being to look at a game and just go "Ahh ok I'm gonna do exactly that but worse"
this is a thing that a lot of devs here do too, so don't try to shift blame

>>535718547
bing harvest moon you disingenous troon
>>535718554
old school engineers arent on the same level, when you work 40 years at one of the most powerful evil companies in the world you get a lot of advantages

>>535718040
>You start your journey by arriving on the farm, no indication of who you are, no back story whatsoever you just appear in the town with a 100000 cash deficit and a piece of land. You can buy items at various shops but can't talk to anyone, some of the vendor (mostly the animal vendor) is out of bound in the map halfway behind a house, some people that you still can't interact with are kinda stuck in fences or rocks make it looks like a glitch. You have no map !!! I don't know if you get one later but you must find everything by yourself like when you got your tools it give tutorial quest and the one for the sword is to kill a boar in the forest but where's the forest you ask ? Well its not hard to find since the map is so small but still no indications, no board with an arrow nothing ! Shop's open at 7 a.m and you think ok the guys will come to their stands, nop the vendors just pop at 7 behind the counter. You got a bulletin board with quest that read : I need these products, like 4 potatoes etc. BUT FOR WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ??? At this point the start is so messed up I don't wanna go further, it dosen't make me wanna play ! Its a pure cash grab of a game, no love, no caring just hastly made and throwed on steam ! Hell it's not even an early access !
SDV, but it's a kenyan helicopter.

>>535718632
crazy how you disrespect his hard work, making a harvest moon clone aint that easy, you need a lot of content and a lot of testing for the systems to make sure its balanced and replayable
that takes YEARS just in playtesting, one of the few genres that make sense to release in early access

>>535719056
Pull your head out of your ass and answer the question

>>535719017
Based mapless dev

>>535716870
The most obvious thing is to let player use his motor skills and limited (yes, limited) imagination. From the start when you're presented with a visible power socket and a dangling cord, 99% of people will assume they can be connected, the remaining 1% are literal morons. If you want a tutorialization done right, put them in a small puzzle room with simple task of just opening the doors that are powered by this cord. You already have the basic description of items, I'd just use that. Grab the cord to the power socket, have a switch next to the door that shows description it can be switched on/off, have the next room dark with a visible lamp that you need to approach and another description text to turn it on/off to brighten the room and you can't exit until the room is bright.
Simple. easy, elegant.

>>535696748
Gotta get to the grind.

>>535703885
The "I hope OneyPlays play this" genre of games.

>>535719540
Considering a shit ton of streamers and youtubers did play this then I think it was successful.

>>535719259
im just saying, you either make an almost 1:1 copy of harvest moon like shartdew did so you wont have to think about gamedesign (while adding LGTB propaganda ofc) OR you do it yourself and you will probably fail because normaltroons find it too different from the other games the have 100000000 hours in
making unique gameplay, experimenting, etc even if you fail is fine as long as you dont expect money, sadly the jobby is a joke and very shallow and transcoded

>>535703726
I never dared to hurt Fygoon.

>>535704531
What /agdg/ game has the most cameos?

>>535719719
Stardew Valley is better than Harvest Moon. It absolutely improved upon the formula with superior base building and gambling mechanics.

>>535719346
it's elegant sure. just trying to picture in my head how to actually adapt it to my game thematically, since there are no puzzles like that, it's an open world life sim

>>535719971
you dont want to know (projecto nortubel)
>>535719976
it improved on the formula over years, im talking release builds it was literally just harvest moon, the massive success and shilling as the de facto farming game allowed concernape LLC to hire contractors
stop being disingenous, you know im right

>>535712789
>quarter-grubbing
Just make an arcade game without coins.

>>535714679
"men"

>>535719719
My 65 year old mom loves playing farm games on the tablet and on Facebook but when I bought her SDV she played for 10 minutes and said she doesn't like it because she has to move the character with the keyboard.
Epic Baloney is such a bad game dev, no wonder 50% of his games failed to earn a single dollar.

>>535715490
what games xhe made btw? (xe has painted nails so i wouldnt want to misgender such a beautiful eceleb maam)

>>535720114
Release build SDV had all the innovations that made it great: the base building with time-dependent crafting benches, the gambling (maybe this next geode I crack will finally let me complete the museum collection), and the well-paced and well-designed primary objective system in the community center. Harvest Moon has none of those.

>>535719298
A game that demands me to think??? What is this? School 2.0? We have AI to do that boomer. I want to be brainrotted.

>>535721034
This, but unironically.

>>535704679
>makes fun post advertising fun update he made of his game
>humiliation ritual
yeah you're ngmi. developing your game is going to feel like a humiliation ritual by your standards lmao.

>>535685078
I come to 4chan to shitpost and laugh at absurdist shit not to feel
fuck
good luck anon dont get the cancer please just say no

>>535693936
You should read a Garth Ennis comic once in a while.

anyone got that video of the hamster platformer changing artstyles

>>535696318
>>535704341
The "nazi pedo" schtick is now on Twitter aka X aka the most used website in the world.
Not the supposed secret club anonymoose site now full of rehashed wojaks and autistic contrarians.
Also, never forget the Rotherham case and how the UK barely does shit to stop actual pedos and rapists.

>>535720894
horseshit, those element existed in some form in hm, the fact that it worked like a vn with routes and even added rivals that would marry girls if you didnt move fast enough and other skinnerbox elements, release shartdew is 90% harvest moon

>>535685078
Where do you host your game's files, potentially having cancer anon?

>>535721618
NTA but I also think it's pretty humiliating or at least cringe to make a Kojima cameo and then tweet Kojima directly about it. "look daddy are you proud of me"

>>535722193
Kojima retweets fan stuff every day in relation to DS2. I guess even he is still forced to do this "humiliation ritual". You people are retarded.

>Why do so many successful devs have loving gf?
The truth nvke that nodevs are not ready to hear. You're not "more likely" to succeed in gamedev because you're a loser and this is your "last chance."
Successful people succeed everyone, and losers always lose. If you can't start a family with a loving woman, it doesn't give you a stat bonus to making shitty anime games.

>even if i worked for 4 years and the game was a flop, I would have learned so much, I would have grown as a person and I would have the dignity of like, I had finished a project and I feel that is important too and that can, you know... if you keep that going, eventually, you're really increasing your chances of something happening... it's better than doing nothing!

https://youtu.be/83DYlsJoaFk?feature=shared&t=4032

>>535721935
Is that the one with a shitty 80's aesthetic, where the hamster has yellow shoes and a pink jacket?

>>535722770
He can only say that because he succeeded. As an actual dev who worked for 5 years to sell less than 10 copies, I deeply regret getting into gamedev and wish I'd done something useful instead.

>>535714418
What /agdg/ game is the Simpsons of /agdg/?

>>535704679
These type of people seek success just so they can participate in the humiliation ritual, if epstein gave him an invite to the island he would probably be raping kids right now.

>>535722005
No, they didn't. If you don't even understand what kind of impact a simple change like the mayonnaise machine being an arbitrarily placeable object with duplicate machines increasing production rate makes, then you're NGMI as a gamedev.

HM was fundamentally a Gameboy game built under Gameboy limitations while SDV is fundamentally a PC game built under PC limitations. Maybe HM could've been better, but it wasn't.

>>535723430
Dirk the Adventurer

>>535723291
If you're still here there's still some drive in you to make shit happen

>>535723291
Should have made a game you're proud of, faggot

>>535723547
Nope, the drive is completely gone. I only continue making games because I figure that if my life is already over anyways I might as well have some fun before the end. I'm just a guy in a hole who, upon seeing that it's far too late to climb back up, decides to keep digging to see just how far down I can go.

Golden bowl in my stomach that is filled with blood lol

>>535718040
>>535723884
>I figure that if my life is already over anyways I might as well have some fun before the end

Congrats son, you finally made it. Every man gets there eventually, for some its when theyre in their 70s, for a few lucky ones it comes much earlier.

>get idea for game
>start working on prototyping
>very quickly realize how complicated this can (and likely will) get

shieeeet well i spend hours modding other peoples games already how bad can it be

I hate Mondays.

>>535724312
why?
are they affecting your gamedevving?

>>535723492
the shartdew devs were allowed to experiment over the years because they cloned an already successful IP
you cant even admit that shartdew is a hm clone that wouldnt exist without it so please, pipe down

sigh

>>535704330
Endgame for 2D really is C++ and some framework

>>535724293
What engine?

Every time I post progress someone always comments how gay my MC looks, and I get it. I think it's mostly the librarian glasses. I would like him to have glasses or something similar though, because he is supposed to be a scientist. Today I've been trying to experiment with other kinds of goggles. The one on the left is what it was originally. Even ignoring the glasses he is admittedly pretty bland. How do I make him look more interesting?

>>535724542

I made the character creation prototype in Godot which felt way harder than I thought it had any right to be, but maybe im just shittier than I thought. I'm pretty sure this will be a 2D or 2.5D game, is there a better choice?

Updated cloud shader + laptop apps

>>535724991
take your meds

>>535707087
I will worship at the altar of psikyo, treasure and cave until the day I die.

>>535722396
>Kojima retweets fan stuff every day in relation to DS2.
Yeah I guess retweeting fan art of your own game is the exact same thing as putting a much more successful and famous game developer in your game and desperately begging for some retweet and exposure from him.

>>535725412
>advertising from famous celeb is okay
>advertising from indie is not okay and is humiliating.
Buzzword, buzzword, buzzword ritual

Any /agdg/ boomer shooters?

>>535725640
You're making no sense. You lost track of the argument and are now just embarrassing yourself. gg

>>535725815
>no argument
>projects and deflects
It's okay, you can stop responding and just concede that you're wrong.

>>535703885
>co-op
duh?

>>535724919
If you're considering 2.5D, probably not. If you hard-commit to 2D then there are surely simpler engines

>>535724893
what game?

>>535725707
yes

>>535724991
Pretty cool desu

>>535726353
Wilderness Alchemist
https://potiondev.itch.io/wilderness-alchemist

>>535724394
Why does that matter at all?
Great artists steal.
Success breeds jealousy.

>>535703885
Friendslop is the worst.

>>535726016
Kek this is pathetic anon. I accept your concession.

>>535727121
>Success breeds jealousy.
This will never stop being true. People who are mad about shartdew are insanely jealous.

>>535724893
Rightmost looks interesting. I didn’t mind the MC looks though when I was playing, he looks bad but fitting.

>>535727367
You're still wrong, nodev, nogame, nonothing.

>>535726519
Ty ty, you get a bonus
>>535725204
NOT for you though, you're not allowed to view this content

I am....

at the threshold

>>535727121
? i just said that if you experiment with gamedesign instead of cloning what already exists you shouldnt expect to make money, then you started chimping out
there is no jealousy i would NEVER EVER exchange my life with barone nor would i EVER make a game with lgtb propaganda, barking a the wrong tree, schizo

>>535727556
Are you the dev who was greyboxing putting the garbage bags in the bin a couple weeks back?

>>535728670
Nope! I think I recall that one, looked better than what I have here lmao

how do I get my whimsy back?

TIL Gamefreak thought they could complete Pokemon in 6 months and had to scope way down to make it happen over a few years instead. Immensely relatable. Learning all of my heroes are just mythologized fuckups makes me believe that even a loser like me could make it.

>>535707362
why, hes a doll
my beautiful buratino
im sorry to have put so much weight on your shoulders
but you can deal with it
i trained you to

>>535729529
bing bing WAHHEEYYYY~

>>535729301
you just figured out that gamefreak is incompetent?

>>535729301
>>535729757
It’s especially funny/curious as somehow the scope of the games has only been growing smaller since, with the exception of gen2. I mean, obviously making more and higher quality assets and maybe releasing the odd title that ACTUALLY includes more than 200 different pokemans.
But the epic scope that anyone could envision from seeing the gen1 games somehow never arrived?

i have alot planned for this game
many twists and turns
but i cant dev it now, too busy
and talking about it before doing the work feels cheap
life was easier when everyday i just came back from school and made cosmic call

>>535729757
>>535730160
You are haters. Now that I know they're exactly like the losers in this thread I will fight for them until the day I die.

>>535730387
even the bocciposters here would do a better job than gamefreak so thats fair

>>535730523
Bocchiposters are the most elite gamedevs this thread has to offer.

>>535712789
this
I also would disagree with comments about skill progression. There's something satisfying about working out how secret rooms generate and guessing where they are, for example.

the problem is the skill in the top games comes down mostly to avoiding shit, the skill is one dimensional.

>>535729281
Pretend you're Kita instead of pretending you're Bocchi

>>535728136
You should look up "Sid Meier's rule of thirds". Gamers want "33% new features, 33% improving previous features, and 33% staying roughly the same."

>>535709642
The shmups and Metal Slug all have a power-up system which functions similarly to a progression system. The Dungeon and Dragon beat 'em up has stats, levels, and money you can buy equipment with.

Shartdewers have yet to recover from this tweet

More work on the destruction system, not really sure how to tackle the floating block problem.

>>535731972
>Game design is the hardest part of gamedev.
>Stop making [existing game, but worse] and start making [existing game, but better].
What's there to recover from? He's saying all the things that I always say.

>>535731972
Funny he says this while stealing one of my shitposts. Sooooooo creative!

>>535731972
This is extremely true ime. I thought game design was easier than it truly is until I tried to make an original system, purely because making nice custom Magic cards was fun and simple.

>>535730160
Obviously there's the well known danger of overscoping, but there may also be a less appreciated danger of underscoping. For a lot of older games, back in those early days where everybody was just starting to figure things out, there was this tendency to have massive unbounded ambition, because most devs had no idea of what was actually possible yet. And obviously they'd fail to reach the original goal, but they worked so hard chasing the impossible dream, they ended up with something pretty cool anyways. For agdg it feels like most devs tend to underscope, at least looking at demo days.

>>535732514
Nice.

>>535733521
/agdg/ and the extended amateur gamedev world tends to underscope in the wrong things and overscope also in the wrong things. Hardly anyone thinks of their game in terms of game design.

>>535728670
No that's me, I abandoned that because making the level for a wagie simulator felt like a chore to design. Still might use the vehicle and carrying stuff idea for something else though, my games need to have combat in them.

>>535731972
I just want a hundred million dollars, bro

>>535733521
Different anon here but this is really the message I'm coming to terms to. So many of the legendary games I grew up on were made by people who didn't really know what they were doing and were filled with problems, but the ambition poured into them shone through. I often think about how I should downscale my project (too much to draw/animate), and hell, maybe I should, but if I do, I know that it will never be better than nice. That it will lose its special something.

So should you try to make an MMORPG by yourself? Probably not, but I think you have to be at least somewhat ambitious to create something truly special.

>>535734303
Could do wagie simulator but he finally snaps. I don't remember the premise for Postal to say if this is the same thing though.

is there any place to get modern unity tutorials without having to watch a 300 views youtube video from a fucking monkey who don't give a fuck about explaining how the code actually works? (and don't hide the code behind his shit patreon or smt)

>>535735204
just pay the patreon if you want to be spoon fed

>>535734510
There's a difference between being ambitious and being an aimless retard. Why did you choose bespoke illustrations and animations to be your selling point? Is it because you don't have any other skills? I'm going to tell you right now that it's not going to be a selling point. There's not a single solodev success story that can be attributed to high quality bespoke visuals. You cannot come even close to competing with AAAs on illustrations and animations. That is what they do best.

>>535729529
>"buratino"
>posts webm of pierrot
you stupid faggot

>>535734542
Nah too controversial and not my type of game either. My other ideas are bad too: tow truck wars canada edition, you play as an indian tow truck driver, as calls come in you have to fight with other indians to get the cars. Somehow a turf war needs to be included where you do drivebys of other indian businesses.

a game about a farm where you harvest before the moon comes up. million dollar idea.

>>535735820
>GTA: Hamilton
top kek

>>535735498
NTA but I bought World of Horror because of the visuals. I regret it mind you, the game is trash, but it was still a success.

I was able to upgrade my workflow to not relly on AI on any step.

:D

I'm 100% happy with this result.

chuds BTFO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLuXF3qvofM
The Overlooked Secret to Indie Game Dev Success

>>535736603
Someone stupid enough to click on this tell me if the guy who made the video ever made millions from gamedev

>>535736695
negatory

>>535693447 (OP)
I'll post more progress today. Going to start after making some coffee

>>535735570
whats wrong?

Marnix, I used to like you as a person, but seriously: I'm 1 minutes in the video, but why are you acting like you're better than others when your own studio has earned a maximum of 50k net with all its games? That's really nothing to be particularly proud of or feel superior about. That's really not an attitude that makes you likable in any way.

I made a texture that can be connected at different points creating a seamless, seemingly random pattern. I think it should work pretty well as a background and with additional objects added in the front it shouldn't be too repetitive.

>>535736862
the character you refer to as Buratino does not look like him at all and instead looks almost identical to another character from the same story (yes i know he originates from italian fair plays)
this makes you look silly, stupid, and a secondary
the Triple S of tasteless normie
you saw something that looked exotic and interesting and stole it without even paying the slightest bit of attention

>>535736603
Give me your money and you will succeed.

>>535729529
oh, thats it huh.....

>>535737003
Congratulations, you discovered tilesets.

>game has a 6 second long trailer
>has art drawn by a 7 year old

>more popular than 99.9999% of AI

>>535735498
I'll surprise you: I didn't know how to draw when I started development. My standards are simply high, and no one I can afford can meet them.

>>535737562
sovl

>>535737562
"Solo"devs now not only have their wives produce assets but also their daughters. Being an honest to god solodev is a literal nightmare on so many levels.

>>535729529
what do you call the male clussy?

>>535737532
thanks

>>535737562
name a game with better lore than this pic

>>535736124
Okay, fair. Maybe there are some, but they're not the kind of game I would ever think about buying. Any hand-animated indie game is typically made by a sizable team.

>>535737807
You won't surprise me. The fact that you looked into but can't afford to pay artists speaks volumes.

>>535738041
I wish I had this...

>>535738067
clownis

>>535738380
Candy Land

>>535738394
What does it say, exactly?

>Any hand-animated indie game is typically made by a sizable team.
NTA but pixel art animation is quite common.

>>535737091
yes - im aware that he looks more like pierrot
my character is based heavily on him because i saw an edit of him and got inspired
buratino just sounds better than pierrot
and no offense - you're a no-dev anway - youve got no say in my creations

>>535738713
are you cosmicnigger?

>>535738713
that's fair

>>535738713
Based yesdev dabbing on the backseat nodev pseuds

"run and gun" games are just kid icarus-likes

>>535736245
i was never against you cris

>>535739185
Based. He's right. He was too good for us.

>>535739185
>2016
I can't believe this was 9 years ago.

>>535739185
They hated him because he said the truth

>>535738804
that's fygoon 2
another guy randomly obsessed with soviet kids media

Day 1:
>Created character controller with footstep sounds and a sprint button
>Created the base idea for an enemy's backend code which will be used for the game loop
>Testing out some shit textures for different objects along with some particle effects
>Added the music backend for code support
Could turn into something more, maybe not.

>>535739292
is doom eternal a kid icarus like?

>>535739185
I hope I don't have to act like that to make as much money on Patreon as he does.

They are gonna be so eager to play my game once they see it...

>>535739592
Goosebumps

>>535739870
is doom eternal a side scrolling game where you jump on platforms and shoot enemies?

Do you think the "people" making these posts might be mentally ill?

>>535739592
Me on the bottom right.

>>535740023
You WILL participate in the humiliation rituals and you VILL be happy.

>>535740023
none of these even work anyway

>>535738821
i hope im not coming off as too mean sometimes
i really like shitposting as sopranos characters - its too much fun
i love you, make a nice game <3

NEED. MORE. YESDEVS.

My post is good, AGDG ignores me.
My post is good, AGDG ignores me.
My post is good, AGDG ignores me.
My post is good, AGDG ignores me.

>>535740504
kek
good post

>>535740023
I'm mentally ill too so I don't know how to recognize it lol
>>535740162
>normies doing normies' things
is this a humilliation ritual?

>>535740023
>>535740379
There are already way too many games in existence. We need fewer devs and more people buying games.

>>535740379
Ok, I'll do it.

>>535740504
post the image

>>535740359
yeah sure let me cook

>>535740162
>People mad about those in retail getting a free dance break

>>535740504
i wish agdg ignored my game

>>535723291
lol how bro

>>535740573
>is this a humilliation ritual?
Not really, anything they would be embarrassed to do is considered a "humiliation ritual" to them. It's their alternate way to say "cringe" now.

>>535741226
I made a bad game.

>corona? with lime.
>glasses? on.
>cardboard cut-out of Larry David with a post-it note cut into the shape of a speech bubble with the words "You got this, bud. Pretty, pretty Good!!" written on it? In clear view from my desk.
Yep, I'm thinking its dev tim.

>>535741642
Damn. That sucks. Have you tried making a good game?

>>535741937
Obviously. Making a bad game is the result of trying and failing to make a good game.

lmao

>>535739882
>19,092 members
>$1,022/month
The cheapest membership is $1/mo. How are these numbers even possible

>>535731972
chad and a scholar? ZAMN

>>535742123
If the algorithm ignores you then your game isn't good.

>>535742080
Really? I feel like plenty of posters here are intentionally trying to make bad games.

>>535739185
hes right. however, I will still continue to post despite that and despite my game being hated on
why? I'm too lazy to create a reddit account, and going to in-person expos is out of the question because I'm scared of going on airplanes.

>>535742123
>slaps
enough with the meme language

just like make a fun game

>>535742302
that's a stupid statement as well

>>535741697
>cardboard cut-out of Larry David
prove it, nodev larper

>>535742621
but how?

>>535743308
i'm not chinese

>>535742364
wtf how did a cat learn to dance like that?

>>535743382
your game need a dancing cat

>>535743124
just do it

>>535743308
my culture is NOT your gachaslop.

>>535740162
We are we are Godot
Godot
Young Dalit, young Brahmin you will be a dev one day
You got dung on your face you love this app
Pushing those nodes all over the place

>>535743124
Fun is flow.

>>535743916
Does this post rhyme in Hindi? I don't get it

>>535742123
It's always "that" artstyle

>>535744037
Unfortunately so mindbroken by Godot he forgot all basics of songwriting

>>535740162
this is how it feels to be in agdg and being told to make pong by 1k+ review devs

ripped

>>535744087
You mean the Negrofail artstyle?

dev partner got a gf and now he barely has any time for me and our game...

>>535743308
The chinese market seems more open to western games. Good luck breaking into japan.

>>535744518
You missed a chance to be his gf instead...

>>535744518
Wish I was on the winning side of those stories at least once in my life

>>535743308
Those are expensive to make. What about chinese indie games?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3867950
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2776450
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2678640

>>535744518
>>535744764
You are weak shits. When that happens to me I never give it more time and attention than the mission

>>535744764
sex cums and goes, but game dev is forever.

I told a girl I use godot and she gave me head right then and there. Dayum bros it feels good to be a godoer.

>>535744518
I think you just make that up to get (You)s.
I suspect you never had a dev partner to begin with. You might not even have a game.

a gacha in godot?

more like badot

For me, it's GUH-dough.

For me? It's God-dot.

>>535744518
I once tried to turn my wife into a dev partner. Didn't work, obviously, so now I just dev alone.

For me? It's gah-dough cause I gah-dough have it.

>>535745948
Honestly, same. Tried it with my wife after I convinced her to sell the house to secure funding for my upcoming smash hit of an indie game.
It worked for a while, she helped out with art and everything seemed fine. I woke up a few months ago and she was nowhere to be found, turns out she got a part time job at the dollar store just to get away from me for a few hours each day

is it pronounced go-dot, god-ot, or godo-t? I'm still waiting for a clear answer.

>>535746447
The real horror is after seeing the word so often on /agdg/, so you realize how often people talk about Waiting for Godot and hear it pronounced.

>>535746447
The t is silent.

>>535746447
There is no clear answer on how to pronounce it "correctly"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_Godot

dont care about making a successful game. Just trying to make something cool and more importantly prove that i can set my mind to accomplish a complex long term goal. Its an agency exercise at the end of the day. If i dont get any material benefit out of it then ill move on to some other project more likely to do that.

>>535747080
Post game?

>>535745549
more like GOODot

>>535747080
>Just trying to make something cool and more importantly prove that i can set my mind to accomplish a complex long term goal.
Once you do that you'll immediately realize that proving such a thing is worthless and you'll regret wasting your time and wish you'd made a successful game instead.

Seriously, take it from someone who made the exact same mistake you did. If it's not going to be good you're just going to regret wasting your time.

>>535747080
You've preemptively discarded any objective metrics that you can judge success or failure by in order to protect your fragile ego from the inevitable failure.

Thief, but you're a ninja.

>>535746447
I pronounce it in a French way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuFTr_F5spw

>>535747778
Call it... Ninja Gay Den.

Godot is pronounced as Go dude as in Go dude make your game

>>535747778
what's the difference?

>>535747797
>gewdoo
you sound like a baby infant saying goo goo ga ga. you retard frenchie lover.

>>535736245
cris you should try making a horror game like that fnaf guy since people make fun of your models, they did the same for him

What /agdg/ game has the best monkeys?

>>535703885
>more streamer-bait friendslop

>>535703885
I told you guys to make a wizard game.

fuck streamerslop
where's the breederslop?

>>535748327
smells like jelly in here

>>535748327
>if it's good it's a streamer game

>>535744203
ripped from what?

>>535740379
>YESDEV
>NODEV
>MAYBEDEV
>I DON'T KNOWDEV
>CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTIONDEV
>>535736603
Who makes these grifter videos?

>>535748026
Ah, the eternal anglo, once again proving how much of an uncultured swine he is

>>535744518
>dev partner
I don't want to hear about normie stuff from social devs

>>535731972
90% of games ever are based on existing shit, even revolutionary ones

AI keeps improving chuds.

artists BTFO.

>>535730262
what is the lore of the clown man?

>>535748327
I hate when people conflate a game "being good with friends" with a game "being good." There's that old adage about it being fun to watch paint dry if you're with friends and it applies here as well. If a game doesn't need to be played with friends but is only fun when played with friends, then it's objectively a shit game

>>535749063
googoogaga, france's culture is now muslim. the past is the past and lady liberty is green like my money.

You know how some artists do the "draw this in your style" and pretend it's to "challenge other artists" when in reality, it's them begging others to draw their characters for free?
That's what some of these gamedev tweets feel like.

>>535747778
google "tenchu: stealth assassins"

>>535749218
>cris

>>535748757
sketchfab

>>535747640
Maybe you're right, but this was the best thing i could come up with as a first personal project. If i wasn't doing this i would have just been on my phone instead.

>>535749063
have you ever been to france? the people dont wear deodorant and the entire city of paris smells like a smorgasbord of fecal matter, indian food, and sweaty armpits (not the good kind that you wanna lick).

oh yeah, and their cars? you're looked down on if you do any sort of maintenance on it, and they'll arrest you if you wash your car in your own driveway.

at least the coffee was good.

>>535746447
go-dough

>>535751551
I'm from Germany, I used to visit the Alsace a lot in my youth. Sure, it isn't Paris or the rest of France and a bit more similar to Germany, but it used to be pleasant.
Haven't been to France in over 25 years, though.
Paris had been a shithole for a long time already, frogs who live outside the capital usually say the same.

>>535752161
25 years is a long time. Feels like every place has gotten worse since then.

Hot take: E33 is only as good as it is because of the music. Music turns a mediocre game to a great game.

>>535752486
E33 is not good

>>535752485
I'm with you on this. I've just moved from the town to a rural area because it got worse and worse over the past ten years or so. Had been living there for 20.

>>535752486
You can just say you like E33 music, you don't have pretend to have some amazing insight on game development.

>>535752550
>>535752676
My point is that the game doesn't do anything special in terms of graphics, story, or gameplay. When you really look at the game, it's nothing special at all. It's just the music makes everyone think the game is better than every other game even though it's the same kind of game.

What a retard

>>535752903
No sane indie developer pays any attention to mainstream hits

>>535752486
I haven't played it, but E33 looks like it has really juicy ATLUS-style menus and plenty if nice looking VFX. It does everything in the game feel department fairly well.

Trying to block out my level and I just want to kill myself every step of the way, I don't get it.
Looking at pic related for my reference and if I could just get myself to block this out I'd be happy already, but anything I want to do just feels to heavy, I just want to code and look at pretty things, not do blender. And it's not like I'm bad at it, If you put a gun to my head I would get you a blockout because I do know how to use the tools. It's just that I just stare at the viewport and close the program after half an hour with 0 progress.
I'm at a point where I'm willing to pay for someone to help make stuff in a low poly version of pic related and hand them hundreds of buckos, but I can't find artists on X who do this type of stuff.

What am I doing wrong? Is this a good thing, am I supposed to suffer to make something great, is this normal or am I truly a lost cause.

>>535754287
Game dev is suffering.

>>535754287
start with something simpler than a gigantic towering citadel bro

>If you only knew how bad things really are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anIiqC9sKiQ

>>535710129
I wish I had friends. I have co-op games but nobody to play them with.

>>535754807
Stream is coming up

thank god i know when its a marnix vid so i can go and not watch it

>>535754815
it's never been easier to make friends
fuck yall
the game won't make itself and friends won't make themselves either

>>535754807
>girl studying 3d art
tfw no gf that can help me with my blockout

>>535753674
It is well put together on a game development level but it still makes me cringe when I see it.
Feels like its trying too hard to get persona 5 fans to soiface over it coupled with the anime style movements on photorealistic humans is so off putting

I want to write a story so bad bros. I've been programming systems for so many months, and even as they start to come together into a game there's still a ton of asset work and balancing left to do before I can write anything for it. I wish you could just like, write a novel, and have people pay you to read it, like people did 30 years ago. I resent having to do all this other shit to dress up a story so I can sell it on Steam.

When are we hitting the newdev inflow plateau? I mean realistically it has to peak somewhere, right? It has to stop growing at some point.

>>535755120
It has nothing to do with Persona IMO. I'm personally not a fan, but if I had the time and budget, I would absolutely make menus in that style, especially for a game where 50%+ of your time is spent navigating menus. ATLUS raised the bar for the whole industry on how much effort you can be expected to put into making menus.

>>535754287
You're not helping yourself by agonizing over it. You know you're capable of it, so either open that shit shit up and bang it out - or don't. You say "trying" and "want" a lot, but it's like the Yoda quote. You're wasting tremendous energy and adding layers to it by worrying about if you're doing something wrong, if this is normal, is it normal to suffer, etc. Brother: you're trying to dig into the fundamental mysteries of life because of fucking Blender. Model that shit or don't. And if you don't, do something else for the time being.

>>535755232
>I wish you could just like, write a novel, and have people pay you to read it
You can
In fact it's easier than ever

>>535755232
You can if it's free, but obviously you want money and attention. Not to write a story. You should stop lying to yourself. A game may be one of the easier ways to get people to read a story, but it's not the only way and pretending it is isn't going to help you.

>>535754807
>they are talking about chained togeather
>make streamerbait games
HUH? is this the shit they are holding real talks on? Imagine making a slopgame and then """real game devs""" hold talks on what you did right. This is what they are paying +1000 eur to listen to?

>>535755232
There's a type of game called a visual novel that is pretty much what you want

>>535755232
Embedding the story in a virtual game environment is way cooler than just writing a novel though. Honestly sometimes I wish I could just delegate the story to a writer and focus entirely on coding the systems and designing the game world around the story.

>>535755404
We already have, devs are endangered, game constructors on the other hand are plentiful.
What's a "game constructor"? Great question. It's someone who doesn't actually make their own game. They use assets, they use AI, they just clone a popular game. That isn't development.

>>535755497
>You can if it's free, but obviously you want money and attention. Not to write a story.
NTA, but most people want to write a good story, not just a story, and if a story doesn't get money and attention then it's not a good story.

>>535755549
Shut up, these talks work. Don't you know that thousands of people become millionaires every year by releasing games based on what market analysts tell them to make at conventions?

>>535754948
what if marnix played your game?

>>535755816
It gets constantly repeated because it's true.

>>535755427
ok I went and did it.

>>535755704
how do we ban game constructors from DD?

>>535755704
How's your engine coming along? Your programming language? Your computer architecture?

>>535755982
Good work, anon

>>535755432
Noooo... Hahah nooo... Wrong...

>>535755497
If I wanted to write shit that nobody reads for free I'd write fetish porn for myself to beat off to. The market is how you get people to read something. Especially now in the age of GPT; even the new free crap on RR is barely getting any attention.

>>535755564
Mm, nyo... Nyo I don't think soooo... See VNs have the same problem that modern novels do. You have to write to market, like always, but "what the market wants" is more specific than ever these days. With novels, you already have to write womanslop. The VN audience is similar, and then you also have the format restrictions to deal with.

>>535755425
>has nothing to do with persona
>ATLUS raised the bar for menus
>the game where they most famously did this was Persona 5, which E33 has the same style of combat menus
?

>>535756362
Pitch your story

>>535755773
This, but unironically. You do realize that your average wagie who attends these events every year is a millionaire after a few decades, right? or as little as one decade if you're in the US

>>535755704
>I thought using assets was cheating, so I made my own in Blender using textures I found online. I then thought using textures was cheating, so I started to make my own in photoshop. I then thought that using a program to make anything was cheating, so I learned how to paint and carve sculptures out of wood. I then thought that using store-bought paint and wood was cheating, so I learned to make my own. So I went to the lumberyard and cut some nice blocks of wood for my models. I then thought buying lumber was cheating, so I grew my own trees. I also think that is cheating, but I'm not sure where to go from here. I haven't made any games lately, and it'll be at least 10 more years before I can chop those trees down.

>>535756362
NGMI
Don't replay to me ever again

>>535756642
As in they're not necessarily trying to poach from that fandom specifically. Plenty of games are following the trend of fancy animated diegetic menus, like recent chink gachas.

>>535756956
>>535756769
retard

>>535756754
One of the fetish porn ones, right?

>>535756362
So you do want attention. Not just to write. Why do you care? Do you want to express yourself or be famous? What does fame matter to you? That you're doing something right? We know what people like to see, does that mean you should put more material like that out into the world? It's better to be yourself and write what only you can write.

>>535757283
No, the non-porn ones. I don't work on porn games.

>>535754287
just out of curiosity, how much would you pay? it would take me about 2 hours to make something low-mid poly with some textures. I'd charge around $50 for that. does that sound fair?

>>535757218
ironically the best style of menus is what BF6 is doing but gamers don't get it

>>535756362
You're a loser. You think like a loser. You don't want to win, you want to blame external factors for why you're a loser. That's why you lose. You deserve your misery.

>>535757328
Anybody who writes and has anything worth saying wants to be read. Don't be retarded.

>>535757803
Welcome to the club kid. I've been doing it for a year

The organization is in shambles
They're still try to run their demoralization campaign but its weak compared to what it was. It's the last gasp of a dying animal trying to prevent the inevitable. Keep working on your game, yesdevs. Don't let up.

>>535757803
Someone explain what this feeling is to an autist.

>>535757491
No gamers wait to see their anime girls swing their ass every time they flip the page on their menu.

>>535757491
If gamers don't want it then why is it the best?
Are you retarded? Who do you think games are made for? Aliens?

>>535757997
>What is Stellar Blade?

>>535757803
Isn't this the guy who murdered his father

>>535757803
Same. I'm not posting progress anymore, it's all crabs, schizo nodevs, and /v/ tourists who probably started coming here after someone started making daily gamedev threads on /v/.

>>535757923
What, the inner circle? They've been ruined ever since currymongrel flopped. They have no power anymore

>>535758226
gamers are stupid and don't know what they want, only to complain. if they knew what was best, they would just make it instead of playing it. league of legends is one of the best games ever despite all the criticism.

>>535758423
Holy kino! Add a dark mode for DD and I'll play!

>>535758406
League of Legends is extremely popular. Gamers know they want it, your example is retarded. It gets a lot of criticism because it's popular, not in spite of it.

>>535758423
this nigga lost it

>>535757453
I don't even need textures, and only about 1/3 of the detail of the image I posted, sure I like the ac units and catwalks, but the only catch is, I need a lot of it, so if your calculation scales down, I'd pay you that easily, and honestly double if you ended up understanding the vision (because I purposefully posted something more traditional, whereas I require something that doesn't really resemble real world architecture).
Do you have anything you've made to show?

>>535758423
bruh

>>535758301
who even is the inner circle? is it a discord thing? I dont go on there cus i hear fygoon is secretly their ringleader

If I make it I'm only feeding my cat live snakes i throw on the rug every day

I really enjoy listening to Eric mouthing noises, it's an instant serotonin boost :)

>tu tu tu tu
https://youtu.be/cgXkbYaSme4?t=480&si=Fdqy3RS1V36CLvxZ

>BRRRRRRRRRRRR
https://youtu.be/83DYlsJoaFk?t=5182&si=dKcV3yt_cFbpbpcT

Do you have any weird comfort habits that help you get through difficult dev days?

>>535758301
Didn't he buy an apartment using the profits from the game?

>>535759214
if you ever see an elitist faggot with an ugly game either here or in any /v/ thread acting like he's a better developer than you that's someone from the inner circle

>>535758726
>>535758897
?

>>535759478
He bought an apartment with the money his publisher gave him

>>535711297
Does every attack having a 1 in 20 chance to sever a limb count?

>>535759726
Fear and Hunger is kino.

>>535759702
I've been to serbia and there's no way he can afford an apartment with that kind of "profit"

>>535759412
>bobby lee
>why you no make candy crush stardew game?!?!?!?

>>535759702
Based.

>>535759870
His publisher gave him over 100k USD upfront. They lost money on the deal.

im going back to the java

>>535759412
It's painful watching two turbo normalfags have a retard conversation like that

Damn it, my current temp job is ending soon without renewal and I don't have a new one lined up yet. Am I going to have to shelve my game to job search again? I envy you nepobaby neets who can just dev all the time without worrying about money.

>>535759995
>gets 100k
>buys an apartment
>releases game anyway
Sounds like a win to me

>>535760309
No one like that even exists, moron. Post a single dev who is that. Stop flinging shit at imaginary boogeymen.

>>535760323
I mean yeah sure if you're not planning on releasing another game ever again

>>535759904
>>535760128
>>535759478
>>535759870
>>535759702
eceleb gossip tranny, you deserve your unhappinness you deserve to be poor
fygoon was right btw

>>535760605
I'm on fygoon's side and you're probably osur

>>535760309
>>535760448
I'm a "nepobaby neet" but only because I'm not retarded. I lived frugally while saving up around a decade of engineering salary. A little bit of real money goes a long way.

>>535760734
actually im seething while debugging some 7 months old spaghetti so i just clicked on posts i half read
i just needed to make that post is all

>>535760734
what fucking rat bastard names his kid "ass sore"?

im so glad yall are flopping you deserve it!

>>535759412
>it's like my brain is wired like that dopamine centric
>bobby, shocked, "that's what I have!"
Your brain likes dopamine? You're a human too?

animals like dopamine too thoughbeit

How come we never team up for a small game?

and humans are animals
that's not the point THOUGHEVERBEIT

>>535761696
You don't remember that time we tried to do a farming sim and how we learned you need a leader to have a successful collab?

>>535760605
>eceleb gossip tranny,
bobby lee is not an eceleb. he has been in MANY movie and what I said was NOT gossip you FAGGOT.

>>535761785
The farming sim was huge.

>>535761393
yeah these people are genuinely fucking retarded. It's like listening to slugs talk

>>535761785
ill be the leader. you can trust me with leading everyone.

>>535759412
Nubby's sold extra thousands of copies thanks to this clip alone

Why are playtests the meta instead of demos now?

>>535761696
Because I'm a very singular person. My tastes and preferences are too different from everyone else.

skinnerbox? more like shaggin' box cuz my game gets me mad pussy

>>535738713
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you actually know WHO Buratino is, so let me ask you this: will your game feature Karabas Barabas as the main antagonist?

>>535762050
what are your tastes and preferences?

We genuinely need more developers like fygoon

>>535761696
I'm not a social person. I think most people that end up here are like that.

>>535762042
You want to catch lighting in a bottle as soon as possible.

>>535762112
crocodiles can't smoke cigars. you stupid idiot retard

>>535761696
Nobody can ever agree on what to make. Also everybody ends up being assholes to each other.

>>535762198
Is this kind of like how mean girls like to keep ugly girls in their friend group so that they can be the pretty ones?

How about we all collab on my game but I only pay you in exposure

>>535762360
Lets make a CRPG.

>>535762372
No, I'm slowly realizing that we need more hungry young revolutionary energy in this shitpile. It's too stagnant and old now which is why it's falling apart. If a system isn't working you need to shock it

>>535762454
Sure. Post your GDD.

A CRPG but we rip off Path of Exile's modpool. If you're not making this game with me I'll assume you're making this game against me.

>>535762430
Pitch the game and if the idea is really cool, maybe

>CRPG
>PoE modpool
what is blood talking abbout

i hecking love french devs

retard

>>535762762
shiet nigga iunno wut blud is goin off bout

>>535761696
Sure I'll "team up"
Bend over

I don't want to make a CRPG, I want to make a dumb little graphic adventure game or a visual novel.

>>535762847
the monolith fps?

vlud

>>535763224
ok lets make a graphic adventure game

>>535763224
Post your GDD.

>>535761736
>and humans are animals
is this a subtle /hmofa/ thing?

should I post progress? will I get attacked and cyberstalked if I do?

>>535764309
If you're a real nigga I will defend you to my death

>>535711519
Seeing shit like this makes me wonder if it's possible to go negative.

Also
> """adjustments""" negative 3 USD
what the fuck? that's more than 1/4th of the gross. who the fuck is taking that money? find a way to kill that thieving nigger asap.
payment processor "fees" also need to get reduced, look into getting it done.

also
> paypal
bruh, no. don't use those assholes.
you have to find someone else; they WILL jew you out of your money if you ever start to make it big.

>>535764046
I don't really have it planned out or anything, I'm just thinking that, based on previous experiences with collab attempts, everybody's going to be an asshole to each other and want to do different things, so the best thing to do would be to just set up a system to let everyone go be separate silos. The way to do that would be to do something like how id made Quake: a core technology and asset pack shared between a bunch of different level designers who were each their own silo doing mostly their own thing.

So for an agdg collab we can do a "shared universe anthology," where we set a basic concept for a world, set a base technology and toolset, and then let everyone go off and tell their own stories in that world with the shared resources, with the occasional reference to the other stories.

Note that this is also how Katawa Shoujo was made: shared resources but five different stories by five different developers.

Though to be honest, even with this setup it's not likely to work because it's not even guaranteed there will be a universe or concept that more than one person would be interested in writing for.

>>535764309
we need yesdevs

>>535759412
Idk what I was expecting but I definitely wasn't expecting his voice to sound like that based on his weird zen tweets

>>535764954
I think there will always be interested participants if the foundations are solid. The problem is that no one both has the skills and is willing to put in the time and effort to design and lay down those foundations.

This is it

the final frontier

>>535765089
last time I posted progress I got attacked and cyberstalked.
>>535764372
thanks, but I'm not a real nigga :(

>>535765545
Okay then fuck off

>>535765763
dont tell me what to do

muh fish game
https://dmcaguy.itch.io/fish

Just learned that the official vehicle of kaliina wasn't a real jeep but a bootleg brazilian one.

lmao.

Just need to finish up the sound effects tomorrow and we're done

>>535765545
but i wont attack you

>>535765545
I will attack you but only sexually

>>535765545
we dont attack people here. we give honest reactions to games, you thought it was an attack because your game sucks and the truth hurts

>inb4 b-but crabs!!
crab is a made up word by whiny people. see >>535742123

>>535766234
what inspired this game?

>>535764954
>So for an agdg collab we can do a "shared universe anthology"
Sounds kino. Maybe a simple open world roguelike? I think the biggest blocker of collabs is would-be contributors have their own projects and would rather work on that then dedicate their time to a collab. imo, an agdg collab would have to be designed to allow for devs to easily come and go without the entire project falling apart

SAVE US FYGOON

>>535766652
from what?

>>535764954
>>535766612
I'll do the logo

>>535758726
Do you know what a roguelike is?

>>535766604
cuphead pretty much

>>535766918
>Cuphead invented platformers

>>535758565
It's a work in progress man

>>535767308
hey, give me a pie recipe

>>535766905
Yes. It's a game where you choose from between three upgrades.

>>535761785
Yes, remember exactly what happened.
It was a completely open project that anyone could join and contribute to, and yet somehow a few of you socially stunted retards still threw a massive tantrum about not being “invited” because you’re too pussy to engage with strangers on the internet. What growing up with helicopter parents does to an mf.

If there’s ever a future /agdg/ collab it should be 4 people max. The leader of said collab should properly vet the potential members and only choose people who actually have developed enough brains to function in a team environment. Fuck the faggots who are going to piss and shit themselves over being left out, we know based on how it went last time that they’d have a meltdown no matter what.

>>535767308
it also invented rubberhose cartoons

>>535766905
yep, same thing as a roguelite

>>535759557
>>535758423
text only game on pygame tho

>>535765138
You must be new around here

Another devlog just got uploaded to my devtoilet.

>>535766705
from me

modern gamedevs have forgotten what videogames used to be.

>>535768727
neat, they turned webfishing into an irl game??

>>535768727
5 minute wastes of time that you shelve forever or just throw away?

>>535768727
I had one of these bite my penis when I was like 7

>>535759790
Yeah but like in a real-time environment

>>535768897
depends on the design.

shogi and go and chess can take a lifetime to master.

>>535739592
>AI porn
no shit retard

>>535767590
That's not what happened at all. The nodev ideaguy who started to fill the shared GDD with AIslop got all of his "contribution" deleted by Max, an anti-AI artfag, which IMO, he shouldn't have done. Fundamentally, the project was an artfag ideaguy project with underspecified gameplay systems, and then Max threw a fit once a programmer and game designer came in and tried to specify those systems. No one really wanted to start implementing a prototype because Max had already demonstrated he was ready to make the executive decision to delete contributions purely out of personal preference. I think was Slimo who took the idea and kinda did his own thing for a few days before giving up.

>>535768897
hey now, dont wake daddy and booby trap were game night staples at the anon family household when I was growing up

What sort of game should I make if I want to impress hot zoomer girls with big tits

>>535770840
The one that makes the most money.

>>535770840
hentai visual novel

>>535770929
Like what?
>>535770939
I said game

>>535767750
It runs in curses too, but pygame text UI is a stepping stone to tiles/animations/mouse support later. Won't be hard. I'm just focusing on mechanical features right now.

>>535771463
Open world craft survival

gross

>>535772205
Worms are not that gross.
Unless it's hair worms.

jbow live on twitch rn working on his 10 years in the making childrens puzzle game

>>535773427
jblow your brains out along with the eceleb you worship

>>535773520
What part of my post obviously mocking the man made you think that I am a fan of him?

>>535772205
u watched the new alien earth? that shit is ass but some of the alien designs are cool

>>535772205
Indeed.

>>535772205
It makes me happy to see you still here posting updates on this. Every time I come back to this thread it feels like more and more of my old friends are gone. I miss them.

>>535772205
the movement is kino

>>535774067
they all trooned out because of you
you couldve stopped them but you didnt
youre a bad friend with dead 41%'d friends

New missile defense turret

>>535774331
>dead 41%
we gotta get this number higher. these are ROOKIE NUMBERS.

>>535774331
>immediately starts thinking about troons
Is there something you need to tell us, anon?

>>535774436
It's so clean.

Idea: A game about Rap like Parappa the Rapper but it's called Rapism

>>535772205
why do we hate this guy

Holy shit. I think I just had my best idea ever. At the very least this is a top 5 idea of all time.

>>535775807
he called fygoon ugly once (which is true)

>>535775807
>we
this ain’t /v/edit lil bro

>17 days left
What's a good idea I can make in this amount of time?

>>535758239
oh shit, you're right!

finally managed to get 3d item pickups to work with my inventory

>>535776351
an mmorpg dream game

>>535776351
wwe but with lolis

>>535776443
What happens when you drop them

>>535776514
nothing yet, considering these are potions i would say they should break when hitting the floor after going too fast
but that's future stuff

How many hours of gameplay would you need to justify a $15 price tag?

I feel so fucking tired all the time, I haven't made any significant progress in weeks. I think there's something wrong with my body.

>>535777532
$15 = 150 hours of Gameplay MINIMUM at the very least.

>>535693447 (OP)
>https://gadfly221.github.io/hexadeck/

I have developed (read: AI slopped) together a rough I Ching-inspired puzzle game with light deckbuilder mechanics.

This is my first concerted effort at making a game, as I'm sure is readily apparent.

Eventually, I would like to expand this into a full-fledged rougelite deckbuilder with card assets and pretty animations and such.

For now, it's more a proof of concept. What I would like feedback on is:
>is it even remotely fun (or should I turn it into a study/academic tool for I Ching exploration?)
>how could the scoring/incentive system be improved?
>would a timer add a welcome dash or urgency, or just be stressful?

any feedback appreciated.

>>535777667
Ok, how about for NON open-world survival crafting games?

>>535607868
>>535667940
After thinking about it I'll try the two options, so I can count with both approaches.

>>535777667
agreed. slap a zero on the pricetag--that's what I not only expect but demand and deserve in terms of hours-to-beat (add another zero for hours-to-100%) from any game that I grace with my time and hard earned dosh

I charge by the hour you play my game.

>>535695954
those wall textures are too high res they clash

>>535775980
shouldnt that make us like him?

>>535778664
Your attitude clashes with your nogame, nodev.

>>535778618
Make it hardcore and make people buy it again if they die, too.

Hi, I'm new.
Is there an /agdg/ iceberg video I can watch to get up to speed with the lore? :^)

how do I trick myself into working on my game?

>>535778859
where's your game chud

>>535779254
code on your phone
write out your thinking about your current technical problem on your phone

most talented dev of agdg?
least talented dev of agdg?

>>535779705
dev?

>>535779705
>most talented dev of agdg?
Me
>least talented dev of agdg?
You.

>>535777667
>>535778354
I don't like how modern gamers intentionally want their time wasted. I miss the days when you could buy a good linear singleplayer game with a story, finish it in a few hours, and move on with your life.

Of course, I say that as a gamer, not a developer. As a developer I recognize I need to cater to gamer tastes, not my own. It's not like I need or should be making something that I would buy for myself.