Thread 536986507

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/sthg/ #8583 - Chibiver the Chibihog Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds | Competition Trailer
ENG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nIhfo2X0oI
JPN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVoDsexw0NM

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - CrossTalk 6 | Vector, Espio, & Charmy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxYkmbmDAr0&ab_channel=SonictheHedgehog

>Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds - Animation Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXsmlVv0Tw0

>Sonic Racing - Cross the Worlds - (Opening ver.) - Performed by James Bourne of Busted
https://youtu.be/OR9FGj1Bj70

>New card game Sonic Blitz released download here.
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-blitz-apk

>Sonic Rumble Global Launch Delayed
https://sonicrumble.com/GLDelay

>Paramount Developing Sonic Movie Spin-Offs
https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/sonic-the-hedgehog-spin-off-movies-report-paramount/

>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 will be released on March 19, 2027
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/sonic-4-release-date-march-2027-1236280697/

==Comics Release Dates==
Sonic the Hedgehog #81 - 03 September 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chaotix's 30th Anniversary Special - 08 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog #82 - 15 October 2025
Sonic the Hedgehog: Chasing Shadows - 04 Mar 2026

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>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://grabber.zone

>/sthg/ booru:
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>/sthg/ OC info:
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Previous Zone:>>536940017

Sonicbros... why isn't he actually denying it?

CrossWorlds dialogue datamines:
https://pastebin.com/kAx2DP5c (EN)
https://pastebin.com/0vg53isp (JP)

>>536986507 (OP)
WORTHLESSaze lost BIGLY today

>>536986587
Except he's mogging him.

sexhogs

>>536986587
>omega hyping up shado
Why is Omega lifting his balls?

>BUT FATHER! IT'S A SMALL CONCESSION!
>>The monarchy has fallen, billions must get plapped by Naugus

>Randomfox loves Scrapnik and the OVA as exceptions to his "Only games" rule
Based. He respects the characters unlike you faggots.
If you struggle to understand Sonic characters you should leave.

THERE WAS NO "PROBLEM" WITH AMYS CHARACTER, SHE WAS CUTE, SILLY, FUNNY, AND CHARMING, HER WANTING TO DATE SONIC WAS A GOOD RUNNING GAG (literally) AND THERE WAS NO REASON TO STOP DOING IT OTHER THAN SOME FUCKING FEMINIST OR JEW OR BOTH WHO NEVER EVEN PLAYED THE GAMES COMPLAINED ABOUT IT AND COULDNT ACCEPT THAT NOT ALL ART EXISTS FOR THEM SO THEY DESTROYED SOMETHING I CARE ABOUT.
I WANT AMY TO BE OBSESSED WITH SONIC
I WANT SONIC TO RUN AWAY FROM HER BECAUSE HE THINKS SHES ANNOYING
I WANT IT TO BE A FUN RUNNING GAG LIKE IT WAS BEFORE
I DONT GIVE A FUCKING FUCK ABOUT ((((CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT))))) FUCK THAT SHIT
GENOCIDE ARCHIEFAGS, GENOCIDE SAT-AMFAGS, GENOCIDE (((CONSULTING))) FIRMS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, NUKE ISRAEL.

>>536986507 (OP)
>Shadow and Rouge
>Silver
Yep, we are getting Blaze next.

>>536987296
Is Metal Sonic in?

>>536987063
It appears that you are a jewish nigger

>>536987063
Father.. I have a confession to make..I- I suck Sonic's Penis!

>>536987651
Thats gay

>>536986939
He is stating canon facts

Metal better watch him fuckin' self. Both his dad and his sister are keeping a close eye on that boy, lest he gets uppity again.

It's what you all deserve

>>536987274
Based.

>>536986507 (OP)
hellokitty for boys...

>>536988023
Two characters who have never interacted with Sonic

>>536986507 (OP)
Cutever

>>536987296
You will get Sage
And then Metal Sonic
And then Big
And then Cream
And then the Chaotix
And then Omega
And then Jet
And then Red from Angry Birds
And finally after all that Blaze will appear in Hello Kitty shit.

>>536988078
How did we go so wrong...

What happened to my hero sonic the hoggu?

>>536987993
Maybe if the comic wasn't boring slop there would be more to talk about its content rather than begging for the people writing it to be fired.

>Knuckles: You may be just a kid, but you're Eggman's kid! I don't trust you, and I won't go easy on you either!
>Sage: Your opinion of me is irrelevant. I will win and you will lose. It's a simple fact...for a simpleton.
---
>Sage: I have heard Sonic speaking negatively about you. I suggest you focus your attention and aggression on him.
>Knuckles: Like father, like daughter, huh? I'm not falling for that! Next time you try to trick me, keep it simple.

>>536987993
What events

Shadow and Amy going on a date while larping as Melody and Hangyodon

>>536988181
Fucking mini Silvers have come

>>536988078
Yuji Naka didn't want this...

I love Shadria!

>>536988253
>>536988587
They desperately want a Japanese audience. even if at the expense of the brand

I love breasts

>>536987651
In the original pic he was taking Ant's cock.

/sthg/ pretending Sparky was "defeated" by a crossdresser using AI to pad his posts is one of the more embarrassing things I've seen. Sparky is obviously the one in the right about Amy.

>>536988670
Based. I swear not to long ago sthg was adamantly against any interpretation that wasn't siblings

>>536988023
Oh look, two sallys, that makes you a double nigger

>>536986507 (OP)
>>536988181
I hate this character so much. I am delighted to discover that Sage will now be his archenemy out of sheer spite. Can't wait to see this tard get bullied by both her and the zeti hordes.

Who's up for breakfast

Shadails is basically Shadaria

>>536988826
Tangle lives in these chocolate woof tiddies.

>>536988868
>/sthg/ pretending
Literally all şĺåśhy samefagging for his beloved troon ally

>>536988927
That's a lot of human men cum there

>Iizuka: American Sonic is very off brand. we are unifying the whole franchise with SA to be Japanese shounen
>fast forward 27 years later
>hellokitty

I can't get the network test to work, it keeps giving me the error code 2 - 1 - 37 when I initially booted it up it gave me the option to select a network but I can't get that to pop up again.

>>536988915
There is no reason to hate actual Silver, only Uwuver

>>536988868
>/sthg/ pretending
>it's just a retard who admitted he was samefagging
I'm still amazed by sparky's stamina, but at some point it is obvious you're talking to an AI because usually LLMs start repeating the same arguments over and over expecially if they're biased in social and political topics.

>>536990013
in a nutshell: Sparky is a bot.
>[doc_3]

What do we want from the next mainline Sonic game?
Personally I want slope physics and level design inspired by the Tony Hawk games.

>>536990314
Denser, more populated environments than frontiers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr8SaZcuv6A

Boards seem kinda cracked for people who know how to drift properly their acceleration and boosts are insane

>>536989792
Don't waste responses on the pathetic Silverschizo, please.

Fuck silver
Kill silver
Delete silver from the timeline

>>536990139
I like to think before mechanical automation was a thing human beings relied heavily on autists and obsessive-compulsive people for organic automation. It's why you can trap them in infinite iterations with tricks and bots.

>>536988874
>sthg was adamantly against any interpretation that wasn't siblings
That's how it should be.
But Shadow Gens came out and suddenly Shadria is way more popular. It is regrettable...

>>536990314
I just want the 2D classic style game in 3D
but Frontiers 2 is what we gonna get

>>536990679
Regrettable how?

>>536990595
this but blaze

>>536989412
This is true, I tasted to confirm

>>536988874
muh trifecta faggots have been buckbroken by the games

>>536990780
She's been dead for years

>>536990967
Yeah, that's the tragedy. The actual pairing itself is great. I'm just glad there's fewer "THEYRE SIBLINGS EWWW" posts

Can we have sex?

>>536990903
Damn, I'm sorry for your loss.

Sonic is the wind. Freedom, independence, living life by your own rules, doing what you truly think is right even if the world tells you you're wrong. Disliking oppression and while not calling himself a hero lends a helping hand to those by his side. Being the gale of fate when the world looks like it's falling apart. If Sonic is the wind then Silver is the divine wind. An unknown force here to bring forth light in the darkness and he's here to help. If Sonic is heroic then Silver will give everything to give people a chance at a bright future, including Sonic himself. The very nature of this means that Silver comes in to help Sonic when he "failed", even if that's not the intention of Sonic Team, as they want Silver to have a chance to be another valued friend of Sonic and his world

Take a good look, this is the azure!

boi

>>536990967
That doesn't matter. People shoving the whole sister thing down everyones throats was annoying. "Sibling coded" doesn't fucking mean anything.

>>536989529
>MUH GLORIOUS NIPPON
>but also Spongebob Squarepants
Pathetic.

>>536991305
Finally we discovered what Silver's character is. He is the hope of the omniverse! The lightbulb in the darkness! The bacon in the fridge for all the living things that cry out in hunger! The Alpha and the Amega! The terror that flaps in the night!

>>536986507 (OP)
Goddamnit they're using the stupid portals from Fast Friends Forever.

>>536991305
Now waiting for Silver's VVIND panel

>>536990879
You are a nigger

>>536992139
Iirc he wasnt that moved when Darkseid blew his whole planet

>>536991305
Not reading that. Shitver is a poopy character

Rouge and Cream died and none of our characters cared about it

>>536988874
Well, I've been here for too long. I can tell you that /sthg/ (assuming we share any opinions for a moment) has never fully embraced the siblings meme. Shadria content has existed here for over a decade.
The interpretation of the two as "siblings" and nothing more is actually fairly new to the Sonic fanbase. Pre-2017/pre-"cancel culture" it wasn't brought up much. Instead, people who didn't like Shadria would go for the anti-Sonelise angle of attack: by pretending Shadow's a literal hedgehog. Sometimes I still see that mindset, I have a lot of fun reminding them that they goon to Rouge and thus have no right to speak.

Looking further back to forum posts from the early to mid-2000s, you'll find plenty of jokes suggesting Shadow has a romantic obsession with Maria. That was the common interpretation before social media. Interestingly, this resurfaced after Sonic 3, where normies jokingly referred to Maria as Shadow's girlfriend.
This is because, to those not in the fanbase, Shadow and Maria's interactions can easily be interpreted as romantic. Anyone with siblings knows that siblings do not behave like Shadow and Maria do. So that love of theirs is often perceived as romantic by casuals until someone on social media screams in their ear about how "wrong" it is.
I'm also autistic about gatekeeping siblingfags here. I genuinely love gathering sources, I have a several page long document filled with them. And it's very difficult for people to deny it when I'm citing things straight from Sonic Team. It's fascinating to watch their behavior change as they realize that there's internal support for it.

You don't have to respond to this, I just like writing a lot some days.

>>536990013
This is a rare instance where Sparky's brick wall attitude works against him. If it were me, I'd be dogging on the tr**n relentlessly for using AI as a crutch. But he has a need to respond to it genuinely, and any human would become exhausted by arguing with an LLM for hours.

stop calling me a nigger

>>536991659
TEIRISU THE FAN

>>536988915
>Sage will now be his archenemy out of sheer spite
Sage isn't even around in his future though.

>>536992418
Then stop posting jewish made nigger characters

>>536992418
Then stop acting like one

>>536992180
I'm not a nigger and I didn't taste any nigger cum. Sorry to crush your fantasies.

>>536992495
Doxails the cybercriminal.

>hey mom can i go out and have sex with human men pleeeeaaaase!
>ok dear, just be home before dinner

>>536991305
>as they want Silver to have a chance to be another valued friend of Sonic and his world
Then why did they decide to have Silver's characters be about him wanting to impress and simp over Shadow and not Sonic?
I can easily see a dynamic where Silver is measuring himself up to Sonic's strenght to show he's a strong and worthy protector of his future world because Silver has to
Where Shadow competes with Sonic out of ego and dominance
Silver competes with Sonic to prove he's strong enough to help everyone else

Am I wrong here?

>>536992786
Sally would never talk about cum she's not a slut

>>536992786
All sallyposters, archie posters, or IDW posters are niggers. Its just how it is i dont make the rules

>>536992532
She will be now that the dumbass gave her the future knowledge of the Eggman Empire's lack of presence in the future. Now she's going to set up a bunch of contingencies to ensure the Empire still exists. Silver is a goddamned idiot. Do not tell the immortal villain that she's not around in your time, because fucking oops, now she will be. Moron.

>>536992956
She's a girl, she's going to enjoy cum, most likely.

>>536993139
only my cum

>>536993139
You are a nigger and sally is a nigger and jewish

>>536993024
>Silver just destroyed his own dreams of an absolution
What did Sonic Team mean by this?

>>536993024
She's not immortal though.

I quite enjoyed the archie comics, haven't read any idw, is it worth it?

>Blaze has Nega taken from her and the robot pirates killed off
>Silver is given Nega, Sage, and Zavok
Really makes you think.

>>536993280
>Sonic Team
It's just Ian and his seed planting that nobody will care about.

>>536993517
>i enjoyed eating barf but I haven't eat poop though, is it worth it?

>>536993280
To be "fair", Silver has been a drooling idiot since day 1.
>Okay, Satan! I'll murder this random stranger based on your word alone!
Fucks sake.

>>536993517
It's a less edgy version of reboot archie with no humans and no stakes

>>536993517
You appear to already love eating feces so you should also love IDW.

>>536993517
>haven't read any idw, is it worth it?
No, it isn't.

>>536993517
Meh. Kinda mediocre in my opinion, but there's some good stuff in there. Better appreciated for moments rather than as a whole.

>>536993602
I care. Legit the first time I've given a shit about what's going on in the future.

I think you should all read Ghosts of the Future

>>536993768
>>>/co/
Go where you belong kike

>>536993139
Nicole's cum, absolutely.

Die

>>536993517
Kill yourself, ask on >>>/co/
>>536993768
Oh your saying not to read idw, sorry i had a kneejerk reaction to seeing a comic panel posted

>>536993882
I have. It was pretty good, honestly. Goddamn Nicole stealing the show as always. I wish Archie had gotten back to the Moebius plot, cause you just know Anti-Nicole wouldn't been exactly like... this.

>>536993948
How can anyone see this image and not want to destroy israel? I hate jews for making sally

>>536993948
Did she program herself a cock...?

>>536993578
I still say Zavok should be Knuckles' nemesis.

>>536993882
NO STOP!!

>>536986605
>” voice_sha_ready_movie_last_to_cha_rival": "Maria wanted me to protect everyone from harm. Unfortunately, that includes you. That is your only saving grace."
Why are some people talking to Charmy like he’s a villain

>>536994106
That Nicole was just brainwashed/reprogrammed by Gerald, though. She wasn't actually evil.

>>536994124
KILL YOURSELF YOU SHIFTY SHADY HAND RUBBING CONIVING CONSPIRING LONG NOSED SMALL CHINNED COIN CLIPPING KIKE

>>536993654
Blaze believed Mephiles too. She was more into the plan than Silver.

>>536994124
Oh you know full well she did.

ShadowxNicole

>>536994209
Did Ian forget that Charmy thinks Shadow is cool and that Shadow has no reason to be this hostile?

>>536993882
GotF is just garbage where uwuver walks around for several chapters in his underwear while some gay shit with Scourge and Silver's crippled sister happens in the background. Other M and the rest of Flynn's old comics and fanfics are far more interesting and enlightening turds.

>>536994290
You are a nigger
Your brain is a nigger brain
Your soul doesnt exist, niggers dont have souls
Your existence is one of perpetual niggery

>>536994280
Blaze isn't real in 06.

>>536994332
>Shadow has no reason to be this hostile?
Ian doesn't like having to write Shadow as cold and aloof so he writes him as outwardly hostile as often as possible.
Ian's preferred Shadow is the emotionally mature friend of Team Dark.

>>536994209
Because he is.

>>536993517
>haven't read any idw, is it worth it?
No, although the beginning was promising, starting from the metal virus and foward it gets lame as if trying hard to fit characters few people care about on twitter, ian's writing is mainly the characters trying to describe themselves like a wiki page with a lack of world building, add to that a push for gay shipping, artists inserting their own OCs in the background (gigi the scat lover buffalo), sega mandates turning everything into a sanitized hospital for the elderly, canon material like shadow getting infected causing infinite butthurt, sonic the redeeming moralfag protector of mass murderers in a worse fashion than batman, crying lesbians and belle the pinocchio taking the most screentime. All in a shit ass slow pacing without logic, triggering my anime PTSD.

Btw i gave up at issue 40, not even bothering with donald duck and the pissed off tenrec.

>>536994209
>>536994332
Cause it's heckin epic and meta funny to appeal to the lowest common denominator. People found Charmy annoying so he's ruining him

>>536994454
Wait this doesnt make sense? Why are actual real characters in the jewish fanfiction comic? Either way >>>/co/

>>536994209
It's supposed to be more like he's a hyper kid that gets on people's nerves. Maybe a bit of a meta joke.

>>536993948
>>536994124
>>536994290
OOC. Sally isn't gay and Nicole doesn't look like that because she's just a computer.
>BUT IN ARCHIE
Archie is irrelevant fanfiction that doesn't matter. Sally and Nicole are SatAM characters.

>>536994401
GOTF is fine if you read it as its own story instead of focusing on whether or not its an accurate representation of Silver.

>>536994571
Nigkike jewblack

>>536990679
Maria hadn't been featured heavily in anything for 20 years, you're a fool if you didn't see this coming the moment they revealed Maria in the trailer. A relationship similar to that of real siblings was not how Maekawa intended Shadow and Maria to be seen.
"Death of the author" is disrespectful, cringe, and you're most likely a rival shipper who wants a good excuse to pretend Maria never existed in Shadow's life. You're upset the real Shadow is not a generic self-insert vessel like in your shipping fanart and porn. It's the same story every time.
You can like that sort of thing. That's not the issue. It's alright to enjoy shipping fanart or whatever odd stuff's on rule34 today. Even if the inaccuracies are annoying to me, I understand that not everyone dedicates their time to researching a fictional cartoon hedgehog.
But you don't stop there at a detached hypothetical you enjoy for fun. You start demanding the actual character be overwritten and changed so he doesn't break your immersion. You start complaining when the character exhibits the traits he's had for two decades. You start attacking or dehumanizing others for liking the character as his creators intended. That's when we have a problem. I love Shadow more than anything, and I love him just as he is. I take offense to you thinking Shadow's own will or his love for Maria is an issue, and it's highly ironic to me that people like you have the same mindset as Shadow's in-universe villains.

>"If only his love Maria were erased, Shadow would do what I want."

>>536994332
Of course he did. He didn't know that Chaos Control could warp, he didn't know the meaning behind Shadow's name, and he didn't know that the Biolizard was Shadow's prototype. Why would he know about non-essential dialogue in a 20 year old game from Charmy of all characters?

>>536994605
satAM is equally fanfiction. Both are poopslop and dont exist. Shitly and shitcole are both jewish propaganda

Does Sonic ever get tired when he runs?

Things are so bad in America now I don't understand why people still act like IDW will even be around in a year when they'll be too poor to keep the business going and Sega is kicked out of the country since they aren't American owned.

People will ship Sallicole (A direct insult to the creators' vision) and then call Shadow and Maria Sibling coded.

>>536994332
Ian probably never knew that in the first place just like he never knew Silver has acted rude before.

sonsari

>>536994718
manliest girl to ever exist
I want her to bench me

I love these two so much.

>>536994571
breakfast?

>>536945058
Next time you post Sally Acorn I'm saving it.

>>536994780
Sonic never gets tired... except in Ianslop where he gets infected by the Metal Virus and has a realistic panic attack

>>536994954
I hate that stupid faggot of ian.

>>536993654
Silver didn't know who Mephiles truly was or his true intentions, only being a person with an answer and solution to his problem
Silver has lived all his live in this hellish world and was desperate to put an end to this, of course Silver would take this chance or else he just keep fighting a never ending battle forever

Context matters

>>536995004
I just want to see if it's reboot Sally, Fleetway Sally, or ugly Sally.

>>536987993
The mistake was ever being a fan of IDW and Flynn in the first place.
And there’s no fun discussion about the events happening in the comics because nothing fun ever happens in the comics.

IDW tanked Ian's reputation hard.

Sonic didnt cum even once in his life

>>536995336
He posted the face before in a barely visible video. It's reboot Sally with the Satam voice and a different outfit. He'll post literally any character if asked. If you ask for Sally he'll get cheeky.

>>536995240
he didn't have a mouth anon

No one realizes this but this is ACTUALLY canon important. This is the canon confirmed way Silver travels back through time.

But is Sonic and Friends more canon than IDW?

>>536995240
The script says Mephiles takes advantage of Silver's impulsive tendency. Meaning he specifically manipulates Silver by riling him up.

>>536995876
Why do you care?

>>536995876
I think you're overthinking a webtoon for small children as some kind of narrative tool

>>536995876
please shut the fuck up, you're in your twenties

>>536995876
>>536992090

>>536995876
>tails canonically jobs and dies in the hellokitty

>>536995995
Well Iizuka saying everything is canon has confused me.

>>536996090
What people fail to realize is that Silver's mere existence means everyone jobs and dies. Every time he appears is because the main cast fail without him. He single handedly hijacks every narrative he's apart of.

>>536996185
Why the fuck do you care about the Sonic canon?

>>536996235
>Every time he appears is because the main cast fail without him
Most of the time he appears it's for unspecified party game reasons. Even in most of his canon time travels.

>>536992090
>>536995876
>>536996286
Lazy and retarded. Even how he time-travels is lame. Trunks gets a cool time machine built by his mom, meanwhile Silver just gets random ass portals that appear with no explanation.

shadow of the hedgehog

How does the Battle Cats collab affect the Sonic canon?

GOTF is worse written than Penders era Archie

It doesn't matter if Ian Flynn wrote the characters OOC. You already know the japanese versions of the games will just ignre anything he takes too far, so why care?

Does it really bother you that there are fans of thie comic versions? Those people mean you no harm.
You can scream about Sallicole being OOC too if you want, but that ship only exists to prevent Sally from making the main character behave OOC. Which way do you want it?
OOC itself isn't some crime. Yes it's annoying when you want more Sonic content and all you can find is radically different takes, but did you ever have any other expectations with Ian Flynn writing?

IDW has its problems but people hate it so much they've started pretending that Sonic games have perfect writing across the board. This is obviously not true. Even Sonic and the Black Knight is particularly awful. Most of you only like it because it showcases Sonic's character more than other games.

You all insist that Shadria is canon because of authorial intent, but you will spit on Whispangle despite it being in an identical position? It seems like there is some sort of difference between the two pairing that you just aren't fond of.
You guys need to lay off of Evan. she is the best writer we've had in recent years.
No the japanese writing in recent games isn't good at all. Especially not in Frontiers which is a 4kids tier mess in Japanese.

>>536996629
he writes the games now, they don't ignore him they use his word as gospel

>>536996629
Maybe it's because... IDW is just ASS?

>>536996629
IDW fans are prolific and think the series should revolve around the comics.

>>536996629
>Does it really bother you that there are fans of thie comic versions?
Yes, it disturbs me that there are so many people with little to no standards.

>You guys need to lay off of Evan. she is the best writer we've had in recent years.
Do you have any idea how worrying that is?

>>536996629
>You guys need to lay off of Evan. she is the best writer we've had in recent years.
Every writer besides Flynn who has written more than one story is better than her.

She also is worse than the social media manager at telling stories.

>>536996629
>You guys need to lay off of Evan.
I agree
>she is the best writer we've had in recent years.
No, Barnes is. Evan is still mediocre but she genuinely tries unlike Ian.

>>536996840
>Do you have any idea how worrying that is?
It is not even true, Daniel Barnes exists and I can almost prove the fandom agrees with this because Endless Fantasia is actually getting funding.

Flynn and Stanley would never be able to crowd fund their original projects

>>536987993
Does xhe forget when IDWfans demand Sonic to have realistic panic attack because it's le relatable?

>>536996840
>Yes, it disturbs me that there are so many people with little to no standards.
Madame, this is the Sonic the Hedgehog fan base

>>536997013
Stop acting like "relatable" is a curse word

>>536996982
Evan is worse than the movie writers
Worse than the writer who did the winter special
Worse than the social media person
Worse than Yuki Imada

What is she so good at?

>Evan simping
She's not making your ship canon bro. calm down

>>536996629
>You guys need to lay off of Evan. she is the best writer we've had in recent years.
Have you not read Scrapnik Island or Blade of Courage?

>>536996982
>>536996984
Barnes hivemind

>>536997161
This place wants Doctor Who Sonic and that is what he wants to deliver.

Sonic Team is never using Silver for a main role anyways. You guys are complaining about the equivalent of a truck driver that gets mauled in anime, but he just so happens to be able to time travel.

Get Pat Casey onto IDW and tell him to write windnic and he'll do it.
Tom has the characterization they would have given Sonic if they weren't given an ultimatum.

>>536997161
/sthg/ complains about his personality, but I think Barnes has the right mindset to write a decent Sonic comic. I think it's about time he replaces Evan as head writer and we can see what he can deliver. Evan already has a job at SoA. So it isn't a loss for her.

>>536997256
Pat Casey was forced to pair Sonic up with a human, that is why he made Sonic younger to justify him being reliant on a human.

>>536997109
So you're just going to call it "simping" any time people like how Evan handles the comic?

>>536997332
/sthg/ will claim I am bullshitting but Evan has never shown me as someone who likes to write unlike Barnes.

>>536997439
She pushed the restoration harder than anyone she pushed lanolin's problems harder than anyone


Unless you like resistance fighter Sonic then she is one of the worst writers right now

>>536997439
She wrote Team Sonic and Eggman out of character just to facilitate a storyline that didn't make much sense to begin with.

>>536997541
I like freedom fighter Sonic but I think idw is super mid

>>536997464
She does wan to write, it's just that Sonic isn't the right fit for her. She's more like the kind of person who should be writing SoL taking place in the real world instead of a blue cartoon hedgehog starring in an action and adventure series.

>>536988915
>I'm delignated he has villains now he will lose
The coping is real KEK

>>536997617
For much of Archie this was not played super seriously. In the Freedom fighters had a reason to be taken super seriously The restoration does not but Evan sure wants you to take it super seriously.

I don't get why i need to hire writers from twitter, from the histerical nigger to the scat loving tranny that is all you're gonna get.

>>536994838
Learning about this mindbroke me.
Maekawa wanted Shadow and Maria to have a strong love that transcends simple labels, and to do that he based them on two lovers. The Sonic fanbase thinks shipping them is incest.
Hurst wanted Sally and Nicole to have a more familial type of bond, similar to that of an mother and her adoptive daughter. The Sonic fanbase thinks shipping them is very wholesome and that they're lesbian lovers.
Life's not fair desu.
>>536995412
>>536995557
Archiefags pre-IDW gassed up Ian HARD. It bordered on genuine worship, you can even read it for yourself if you sort the /co/ archives by oldest. They would tell everyone who'd listen that Ian saved the comics from the evil Ken Penders.
As a kid new to discussing Sonic on the internet, it sounded real good. All I knew is that I didn't like Pontaff's writing, anyone with eyes could see they didn't care about Sonic's universe. Ian Flynn was presented as that guy who DID care, who fixed other peoples' messes. It's so easy to just take that at face value and believe it. A lot of people desperately wanted to believe it.
I'm mad at Ian for not actually caring about the characters, I'm mad at Archiefags for leading me to believe he was a chill guy who really loved Sonic, but most of all I'm mad at myself for believing it to the extent that I'd attack Sega over the mandates they made to protect their own characters. I'm such a schmuck. >>536995876
Didn't we already know this? He just...warps back like that.
>Ian: That's the thing. We recently talked about the whole time travel thing and got *inhale* an answer? So that'll be interesting to see how that plays out going forward but *sighs* we'll see...
Lol, Ian's mad at how simple it is.

>>536994450
I'm starting to believe she's not real in general, i don't see her anywhere

>>536997090
She's better at representing the characters when she actually knows what they are. Unlike Ian who doesn't like the game canon versions of the characters and just wants to push his Archie headcanons.
>But Uwuver
She abandoned the way she wrote and drew him and is trying to be more accurate.

>>536997109
You can critique her quality but shouldn't shit on her when she's trying to be better. Be constructive.

>>536997685
No she does not, she has complained about having to write, she has called it stressful.

She never talks about her writing the way she talks about her art. Either it's too stressful for her or she's just not truly that invested.

Why does /sthg/ only talks about the Sonic comics? They are actual worthless garbage

>>536997819
That's fine but I would make the case by the time we got the team Sonic Racing the current writers then were as understanding of the characters as Flynn. You bring up Flynn like it's a gotcha whereas you might as well be putting him next to the Ken's.

>>536986507 (OP)
I wanna grab that butt

You guys are so predictable.

>>536997916
/sthg/ does not play the games

>>536996449
It is sort of impressive how Silver manages to fumble being a Trunks ripoff in every way.

>>536997729
The Freedom Fighters in Archie's setting was something established from the start to combat tyranny. The Restoration has no reason to exist because the setting IDW takes place in (adjacent to the games) never needed a group to repair anything or combat villainy. Sonic and his friends do a well enough job saving the world acting as glorified vigilantes.

>>536996629
Nah. Ian flynn is a shifty kike and should be exploded by bombs
>>536997916
Based. I try to talk about the games but NO ONE ENGAGES AND THEY JUST TALK ABOUT SHIPPING SLOP LIKE NIGGERS

>>536997916
I have tried to get this place to talk about the games. Legitimately if you try to talk about the games here you have a far far less chance of getting any sort of discussion. Even crapping on the games is not engaging here anymore.

At this point if there was an actual game leak that happened here it would still be derailed by comic discussion.

amy if she was cool and awesome and not gay

>>536997220
>this place

there's only one person who wants that to an obsessive, autistic degree

>>536998029
I have been offering away for people to play the crossworlds demo including the lock stages without needing a gaming PC that can run it You could even play it on your phone and no one cares.

>>536998029
Which game has better level design? Sonic CD or Sonic 2?

>>536998015
>Silver does a well enough job saving the world
ftfy

>>536997819
There are many problems with Evan that she still refuses to fix And I blame part of that on her not really being that invested and actually trying to get better.

You compare her to Flynn but Flynn is someone who is criticized for being uninvested in being better.

>>536997958
They are so fucking gullible. The moment barnes the tranny lover in the future does something retarded due to his own autism he gets the hammer from this place too.

Just like everyone else, and just like /sthg/ writers themselves.

>>536997541
Go ahead and tell me why the restoration is bad without complaining about accuracy to the games

Does sonic superstars allow for private lobbys online? I dont have the game but once i get some extra money i can buy it and maybe people here could join? Would that be a fun thing to do?
>>536998120
Im sorry i havent noticed
>>536998135
Sonic 2 but the race at the end in cd is a better finale

>>536998306
It's a pointless organization that is explaining a problem that we already had explained.

The games are terrible, of course nobody wants to talk about them. It doesn't help that the people who do like the games, for some reason, are elitist twats who keep attacking everyone else for even acknowledging the other iterations exist.

>>536998319
If you would like to play crossworlds now let me know.

>>536998073
Based, also cute costume. I wanna do anal sex with amy

>>536998120
I've played the demo and it was just okay. The only kart racer I've played is Mario Kart 7 and I think Crossworlds is worse than that because its tracks are very boring.

>>536998272
Doesn't matter to me. I think IDW should change writers every few years as a mandatory rule .

I still wish the kept the "Sonic Drift" title for their Sonic car racing games instead just "Sonic Racing"
"Drift" is more uniqe than "Racing" and has more omph! to it just like "Sonic Riders"
Most shovelware kart racers uses the "Racing" or "Racers" in their title anyway so Sonic isn't anything uniqe but Sega just want Sonic to be their shitty Mario Kart clone anyways

>>536993024
She calculated that on her own goofball
Plus it's better that way, why not make things interesting rather then"uuu don't tell them uuuuu keep it quiet uuuuu" shut the fuck up you don't know how to have fun

>>536998435
>I think IDW should change writers every few years as a mandatory rule
Even worse, archie retcon madness.

>>536998424
I have to go to work soon im sorry anon, another time

Barnes might be the most blackest ugliest gorillanigger there is, but he never mischaracterized Silver

Well if anyone else wants to play the Crossworlds demo let me know.

>>536998426
>I wanna do anal sex with amy
that' unholy

>>536995959
Yes, using the fact that everyone is dead is perfect, Mephiles needed a powerful villain who will stop at nothing, and he got Silver while manipulating everyone to play his game

>>536998319
I think Sonic 2 stages are too samey and don't challenge you enough. Sonic CD on the other hand is much more interesting because it requires you to interact with the level in order to successfully time travel.

Why is the rest of the fandom more eager to give Evan props than this place?

In fact almost no one tries to analyze Evan as a writer except this place

>>536998604
yeah, because he never wrote him

>>536996629
>It doesn't matter if Ian Flynn wrote the characters OOC
It annoys me and rots peoples' general perceptions of the characters, to the point that authorial intent is completely lost.
>You all insist that Shadria is canon because of authorial intent, but you will spit on Whispangle despite it being in an identical position? It seems like there is some sort of difference between the two pairing that you just aren't fond of.
Maekawa drew from romance from the very beginning. Tangle and Whisper weren't conceptualized that way at all, it's a fandom ship that gained ground and the IDW staff liked it, then they got real pissy that Sega shot it down. Maria is basically embedded into Shadow's character, while Tangle and Whisper were hooked up for brownie points on Twitter.
Shadow and Maria's characters compliment each other, they're designed around each other, their colors were picked with each other in mind. Tangle and Whisper's characters serve to drag each other down and they don't look good together, an ugly mess of tan and grey and brown. Plus I respect Maekawa and I don't respect IDW pedogroomers.
>>536997731
This is why I hate anti-SoJfags. When they say they don't want SoJ controlling the franchise they're essentially saying they prefer trannypedoniggers from Twitter controlling the franchise.

>>536997771
I personally never liked Ian. Even when reading Archie when it was "saved" I still knew the characters still didn't act right and how Ian spoke about the games on his old forums spoke to me enough that he didn't actually like the series for what it was and more about what he could "fix/change" about it and make a "better" version.

And Ian certainly loved mentioning how the comic was the "prime" universe, the original universe of the multiverse and that the games would be just one of the many knockoff universes if it was in the comic.

>>536998708
Now that you mention it this might sound really stupid It frustrates me that in Sonic 2 you actually have to stop to enter the special stages. If you keep moving you'll miss the entrances.

>>536998728
>Why is the rest of the fandom more eager to give Evan props than this place?
They're the same people that think Ian is the best writer ever and that his detractors are just petty haters.

>anon wants steven universe slop from a black twitter racist
lmao

>>536998604
Change Game Silver to Rivals Silver, and add 06 Silver which is both Rivals and IDW mashed together

>>536998051
What's the point of even talking about the games anymore when they're just used as vessels for shilling other IPs and Ian's headcanon?

>>536998835
Yeah I prefer how Sonic 1 does its special stages as it requires you to finish the level without getting hit very often. It gives you a reason not to damage boost outside of the scoring system.

>>536998845
I honestly feel insane because I do think that the autists here like Sparky and Violet would be far better than nearly every other current writer but Flynn. Krack would probably do better in any story that is about Shadow (she seemingly isn't a fan of Sonic just shadow).

>>536998005
Silver is the opposite of Trunks in many ways and only has the broadest strokes in common with him.

>>536998884
He already said that he wants to write stuff more like Lupin and Doctor Who.

>>536998828
My biggest issiue for why i hate SoJ is they don't want to take a real grip on the franchise, instead they just do mandate autism that doesn't help for shit since western writers ruin the characters anyeays.

>>Q: Ian, do you like the idea of the Silver x Blaze ship?
>Ian: I can see the appeal of it, but I feel they're more sibling oriented. She's more of a mentor to him. I feel like Silver is too naive to see her in that way.

>>536999004
it does matter
imagine a classic sonic story with shadow that wipes itself out, would that be canon too

>>536999141
Flynn addressed this and questioned why people care if Sonic stories matter. He implied Unleashed does not matter.

>>536999141
That's why caring about the Sonic canon is retarded

>>536999114
I don't care what the faggot says, It all boils down to how he perceives "lupin" and "dr. who" (and i don't even like doctor who). For the rest the work looks like steven universe slop.

>>536999135
Non-rambling version: "I don't like it."

Why is Silver winning a lot lately?

>>536999135
This is actually correct though.

>>536999425
What did he win?

>>536999425
Name all the times Silver have won lately, it's very little

>>536998687
>using the fact that everyone is dead
Silver's future has people in it. The whole point of his mission is to save the people of the future. The reason he even listens to Mephiles in the first place was because he was the only person to give him answers he couldn't get from anyone else he asked.

Let Barnes prove himself before you judge him. If he's shit, he'll just be put in the same corner as Ian and Evan.

>>536999425
Cuz he is going to be in the next movie obviously
We had the year of Shadow, now brace yourself for the year of Silver

This whole Sonic Prime thing annoys me.
"It wipes itself out" no it doesn't. The ending is destructively unclear.
Sonic and Shadow are suddenly sent back to episode 1, before Sonic fucked everything up..

The show doesn't confirm or deny if this erases all of the people they met and saved along the way.
The show ALREADY confirmed that Nine doesn't have to die for Tails to come back to life in season 2.
Sonic and Shadow watched the end of time itself and we're supposed to believe that it just "was resolved" No. That should be a major event in their histories.

I don't even know what to say about the fact that there was a GIANT COLORFUL ROCK in Green hill that if damaged would SHATTER THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE
what the fuck??

>>536999004
this guy is such a hack and a fraud. he's so dumb. he hyped up some sort of epic explanation that would make everything make sense and then comes up with this shit. orbot and cubot are in it so technically this isn't even correct, the correct statement would be that it has to be some time after colors at least because of it. even then this is still as ridiculous as saying "it takes place some time after sonic cd because amy is in it".

>>536999286
kill yourself rapist

>>536999425
He's bouncing back from last year

>>536999608
>orbot and cubot are in it so technically this isn't even correct
Lol, you really think Ian knows jack shit about the games enough to realize this?

>>536999524
He wrote Scrapnik Island which people loved.

>>536999637
Try to stop me.

>>536999737
no but i just felt like pointing it out

>>536999580
Flynn directly addressed this ma'am.

>>536999740
While I enjoyed it, I didn't like how frightened Sonic was at the beginning. He's supposed to be fearless in the face of danger, even when handicapped.

>>536999556
Year of Silve won't be until 2034

>>536994717
>"If only his love Maria were erased, Shadow would do what I want."
I don't remember this. In fact Gerald, Doom, Mephiles even, all said to take revenge on humans because of his loss. Exploiting his pain and trauma.
But Shadow stands firm in the present.

>>536999740
Ian wrote later archie, which people loved and worshipped. Let's see how much this one lasts.

>>536999637
Rape is BASED

>MOMMMMMM I CANT GO FAST
You furries never fail to make me laugh. Spamming your shitty subpar CWC 2D arts to coom on. Is this where you really find mental refuge to cope? Well I got news for you bud; you're about to get raid by the biggest secret DC you wish you were part of. We monitored this general for over 2 years now, landed many DDoS on Booru and plan to strike one final time to shut it all down. You're nothing but a stain on a already dirty shirt. You're fucked kiddo, better start to touch grass cause the Sun is about to come down pretty fucking quick on your bald heads.

-/rog/

>>536999475
>>536999487
Well apart from the crossover:
>being animated
>coolest rival scene
>introduced to Sonic & friends
>People who called him white are getting slandered on Xwitter

>>536999915
Ian has not changed that drastically though. The issue is he is working on the games now

>>536999995
TLDR

nakamura confuses problems with the answer

>>536999995
Kys.

If the ending of a series makes it so that it never happened, isn't that an admission that it was ass?

>>536999425
He's been featured in the Hello Kitty series, that alone is a good indicator for his importance. Sorry balze xistas, soon Silver will leave you for human women

>>536998835
I dont mind stopping and i like that if you plan your routes well you can get all 7 emeralds pretty early in sonic 2, like super early.

>>537000191
I'm pretty sure he's quoting 06. Silver say that exact line in the JP dub.

>>536999694
I never seen such defiant fags like silverfags before, it's like they can never stay down

>>536999915
Because Archie was nothing like the games so Ian was never judged for being inaccurate to the lore and characters, and it became clear he wasn't writing Archie with any love for the games or the overall series, he just liked Archie and saw everything else in the franchise as a means to booster it.

>>537000168
>The issue is he is working on the games now
The issue if you ever witness the discussions about flynn is he writes like ass, and yet people praised him before, but not anymore since making mistakes highlights all your weaknesses and flynn's biggest one is world building.

Silverfags should be more like windfags. Make people AFRAID to mischaracterize him.

>>537000372
you dare to correct me?

>>536990903
Amyfags will never beat the besties allegations

Next year is Silver's 20th Anniversary and you'll be sorry you ever made fun of him!

>>537000338
He already did

>>537000445
Bruh we just want him cool enough so people don't get hurt or annoyed when he's present

>>537000514
We'll see

>>537000419
Funny how his weakness as a writer finally came out when he had to write a setting entirely based on the games and the games themselves. Also, how he's really going out of his way to try to snuff out Sonamy is pathetic as fuck. So much for him not caring about shipping like he always told everyone.

>>537000397
Never give up is all I can say.

>>536997771
That's a good way to describe what happened. I knew nothing of Archie, but I too wanted to believe Ian would save the writing. Now to be fair there are some things I or at least don't mind about Ian's writing in the games, I do think it's better than what Pontac and Graff contributed. But that's a very low bar. I think Ian is mediocre at best. I wish Kishimoto's script changes were applied to the English script. I haven't watched the translation in its entirety yet, but in the parts that I've compared Kishimoto removed the things I hated about Ian's script.

>>537000542
Windfaggotry is the answer. Windfags can get so aggressive that people who would uwufy Sonic back away our of dear or just latch on to the movies. Nobody would ever think an Uwuver Sonic is the real deal. Silverfags need that violent energy

>>537000661
>So much for him not caring about shipping like he always told everyone.
But he shipped Tangle and Whisper before, and Sally and Nicole before that.

>>536998886
He's changed his tune

>>537000898
Both ooc

>>537000926
I don't think he did. I think the Slaw comment was just a joke in the first place.

>>536998831
Yeah, I can see that. Did you ever mention your opinion of Ian online pre-IDW? I have to imagine you were drowned out pretty hard by Ian's fans. I'm not a fan of most Western canons, Archie included, so I semi-ignored a lot of the discussion around it. I learned via osmosis. I never loved Ian or thought he should be the main writer for the games, but I had a general "he's alright I guess" perception of him until it became clear that IDW wasn't going to get better. His flaws became glaringly obvious during the Metal Virus arc. Then he started becoming passive aggressive towards legitimate criticism and it tanked my view of him further.
>>536999047
I like and will discuss characters aside from Shadow. While Shadow is my hyperspecific fascination – a fascination that's so deep any psychologist would classify it as unhealthy – I also like to understand other characters. I will frequently add to discussions about the characterizations of Sonic, Amy, Silver, and Rouge. I'm not usually recognized or "called out" when I do this, and I don't make any effort to be identifiable.
If I were a writer and you asked me to write the character I hated most in the Sonic franchise, I'd stick as closely to the character as possible. I would respect the authorial intent or what Sega had in mind. It doesn't matter if I don't like that, it's not my right to stamp out someone else's vision for their creation.
Although, it's worth noting being extremely autistic about characterization doesn't necessarily make someone good at writing. More goes into writing than knowing Sonic likes Dippin' Dots ice cream. I would do well in a position where I could nitpick and make characterization corrections to someone else's writing, but I doubt my ability to create an interesting plot with an overarching narrative that can captivate an audience. The way I think is extremely rigid, and when I try to understand anything I treat it like it's a math problem.
I'm also bad at PR.

>>537000808
Silver needs straightforwardfags. Silver has so many traits tied to being straightforward that aren't represented in English on top of it being the main word Sonic Team describes him with.

Tails! ^-^

>>537000189
>>537000212

>>537000926
only because the backlash following Whisper x Mimic issue was immense
when everyone was making slaw comments, he joined, when everyone was criticizing #79, he joined that too
everything to fit the public

>>537000565
When are you going to do people's request?

>>537000926
>>537001326

I only want CorCoro.

The existance of the Arabian nights implies Saudi Arabia exists in Sonic, but it can't because Shamar exists

>>537001118
>Did you ever mention your opinion of Ian online pre-IDW?
Yes, during the Archie Preboot era. Back during those days, saying ANYTHING bad about Ian would get you jumped because Ian was considered the guy who "finally understands Sonic". The only time I saw a slight crack in his reputation was when he revealed Sally and Nicole were gay. But that wasn't enough to tarnish his rep like it is now.

This is now Tails thread

>>537001506
I don't like this because he's publicly implying that his colleagues misrepresented Silver.
He Has proven to be better than them all at characterizing Sonic but he shouldn't post like this

If you go strictly by the JAPANESE writers, who is the worst?

>>537001624
Nine really is the most dangerous opponent Sonic has ever had and this just gets swept under the rug

>>537001820
Kishimoto, probably.

>>537001820
Iizuka.

>>537001704
>he's publicly implying that his colleagues misrepresented Silver
It's a pretty open secret at this point. Between Ian's "Silver has never been rude" answer and Evan outright saying she regrets what she's done with him it's just gotten blatant how the comics have misrepresented him.

Silver being called white (the race) genuinely, GENUINELY, annoys me. Twitter niggers are obsessed with making virtually every single Sonic character some shade of black or brown in their headcanons even when there's nothing that supports it. But Silver has one of the darkest muzzles of the cast. He's from the melting pot future. His lesbian double in Archieshit was a pajeet. And they pass up the golden opportunity to make him some BIPOC+ "minority" because he's so fucking LAME to them that he could only be white. KYS TWITTER.

>>536999047
I would add AAR but they actually wrote a story that was like canon so I know they could do it.

Jesus christ, sage

Wait til Shadamy fans find out that Hangyodon has a girlfriend.

>>537000808
Sonic's whole shtick is being "cool". Being uwu is the antithesis of cool and thus Sonic will have fans who will aggressively reject it and shout "THAT'S NOT SONIC!"

Silver doesn't have the luxury. He was seen as lame on his debut, so people had less problems seeing him portrayed as lame.

>>537002057
The thumbnail made me think this was more trans Tails stuff.

>>537002143
I think Crossworlds is the first game to really make his muzzle golden like it's supposed to be. Also blame the squeaky English voice direction.

>anon why do you prefer furry media?
>>because otherwise i have to deal with this >>537002143
>but in furry media you still have to deal with massive faggots
>>i know *cries*

Reminder that Flynn said that Unleashed does not matter when he said prime does not matter

>>537002242
Add on to that with his fans being mostly female and shippers and you have a built in resistance. Silver being wholesome and with Blaze matters more than him being cool or in-character

>>537002426
What

>>537002319
>The thumbnail made me think this was more trans Tails stuff.
No, it's doodleanon stuff made months ago, lovely tails link playing the flute.

>>537002471
Sorry when asked why Prime does not matter he just responded with basically "nothing matters"

Despite all the complaints about Silver, it seems like the main thing that tanked any cool factor to the character was his dub voice. That fucked him for life in the west.

>>537002242
>>537002450
The 06 dub with its changes and voice direction are some of the biggest things to fuck him over.

Why does reddit want me to hate Silver so much?

>>537002143
Things are changing anon...

https://x.com/JustIndieCisive/status/1960812336694092158

SoA was presented with a character who was supposed to be the next Shadow who was also inspired by Trunks from DBZ and made him sound like the head of the chess club.

>>537002720
/sthg/ hates Silver more than anyone

>>537002724
Silver is gonna get his black card.

>>537002720
It's full of botting Blazefags, some of sonaze content has been banned due to suspicious activity, usually getting 3k votes in under 2 hours

>>537002143
>>537002724
I love how the same people who claim racism is wrong and that you shouldn't see color also insist on applying a human thing like skin color onto cartoon animals.

When are Emerl, Vanilla, Tikal, Chaos Pachamaca, Elize, Sonicman, Maria, Gerald and Honey getting added to Crossworlds?

>>537002967
I showed Silver to a non fan and told them he is supposed to be rude and brash like Kawaki. they said his design does not fit that attitude.
likewise a deep batman voice would not fit Silver's design. he looks like a poodle.

I thought of a really stupid and bizarre idea if there is ever going to be another classic collection. I really think it would be cool if SEGA not only added all of the prototypes but also added "What If?" versions of games.

Sonic 2 with time travel
A recreation of the Tokyo Toy Show prototype
Sonic 3 with original level order and cutscenes
Sonic 4 Episode 3
Maybe even a version of Sonic X-Treme.

>>537003124
The design critique is correct. Silver doesn't really have an aggressive appearance.

>>537003251
Btw anyone familiar with game dev, would the first 3 things be too costly to make if the collection were to sell for like 50 dollars?

>>537003251
I would rather have the real prototypes preserved but that's just me

>>537002997
Aggression, disrespect, low iq, and lack of consideration for actions also applies to Lanolin, is she black too?

>>537003392
She's a sheep

>>537003498
And Silver is a hedgehog, genius.

>>537003392
the see her black due to her space buns

Lanolin looks ugly as a human. She has a bad design. Got

>>537003392
Sex with Lanolin

>>537003536
Well excuse me princess

Has anyone ever noticed that the IDW characters went through less design phases than the game characters?

Yummy asshole

>>537002973
Actually yes I have factual data showing this.

>>537004295
Err I mean statistical data.

>>537001575
Yeah, that's exactly what I expected...I'm sorry about that. It must be annoying to see a ton of people agree with you only after he's become main writer of the games and it's too late to do anything about it.
>The only time I saw a slight crack in his reputation was when he revealed Sally and Nicole were gay
I wonder if there were threads on /co/ about this when it happened, and if I can still find them in the archives. Maybe I should go look later. I'm interested in what people had to say because Sally was essentially the straightest character in the franchise up until then.
>>537000759
Pontac and Graff set the standards to the lowest level possible. Anybody who had even a slight interest in Sonic would have been an improvement. So, purely on a technical level, Ian is an improvement over Pontaff. Yet despite this, I'll occasionally wish we had them back instead of Ian. Pontaff did not have a hoard of people who would defend every mischaracterization of theirs. Pontaff did not passive aggressively shit on Sega on a podcast. Pontaff did not engage in Twitter drama or political virtue signalling. Ian Flynn does, and it annoys me to no end.
I got blocked by Ian for memeing about him on my own profile. I never threatened him or replied to him. That's who's writing the character(s) I hold dear, and it's demoralizing.
>>536999908
Gerald erased Shadow's important memories of Maria in SA2, because if he didn't, Shadow wouldn't do what he wanted.
Black Doom tried to erase Shadow's memories of Maria in Jet Black Hedgehog, because if he didn't, Shadow wouldn't do what he wanted.
Shadow's love for Maria is so strong that not even deliberate invasive attempts to suppress it work.
>>537002724
>The only two races are black and white
I hate Xitter so much it's unreal.

>>537004519
I would argue their writing in Team Sonic Racing is on par with current Sonic writing .

>>537004519
>I got blocked by Ian for memeing about him on my own profile. I never threatened him or replied to him. That's who's writing the character(s) I hold dear, and it's demoralizing
You must have done something really wrong, I have never been blocked by Flynn.

Only 4 or 5 IDW staffers blocked me.

>>537004964
It's Krack, she's insufferable.

>>537002143
It’s because he acts white anon

>>537003392
agressive, disrespectful, retarded, inconsiderate, warm, fluffy sheep gf

Why is there no discussion of Amy mentioning Trip in Crossworlds?

>>537005364
who the fuck is Trip

>>537005069
Sonic Twitter considers me as bad as her for some reason lol.

>>537005364
Why does this matter? Trip's canon. Is it supposed to be a shock somehow?

>>537005364
It'd be neat to have a Trip DLC

>>537005474
Because she is barred to classic

>>537003251
Sonic 3's development isn't that interesting. There wasn't much cut from the game. The others are pretty cool though

>>537005515
That would almost certainly only get approved if she got a modern design and that probably is not happening.

>>537005526
Classic takes place in the past, so it's not anything bizarre.

>>537005526
So are Mighty, Ray and the hooligans. Yet they got posters in Generations. They still exist in modern they're just not allowed to properly appear

>>537002973
>>537004295
>>537004368
When /sthg/ held two genuinely serious surveys that were difficult to raid, Silver was high but he was never the most disliked character. That honor goes to Charmy and Chris Thorndyke.

https://img.booru.org/sthg//images/3/0d298cbc89c5453dec48b2ce8030955038d7dc88.png
https://img.booru.org/sthg//images/4/1fd1e1ae8319f5a69f8bfbffd8eca91b0946afe1.png

nicole is wife :)

who is your favorite diddy ahh blud?

>>537005818
I am referring to this which takes a huge amount of effort to raid.
https://allourideas.org/soniccharacters/results

>>537005991
This is solely because I believe that ship shaming is bad and Violet likes shipping SonTails.

You are on sthg, these people most certainly hate you as well.

>>537006008
Who the fuck likes Nega, discard the whole thing
>>537005991
Lmao

>>537005829
MY wife

>>537005991
Please send me the link to the original Twitter post for this

escaping the twitter freakoffs

>>537005991
>slashy,
>not an S rank

>>536993502
Source?

You people are freaks pretending you care about other people being freaks.

>>537005432
This lovely sungazer lady right here.

>>537006992
Incorrect, we are freaks who can recognize other freaks.

>>536993502
All things of robot origin are immortal unless deemed otherwise, like Omega still being around in Silver's future to capture Shadow.

>>537007267
This place is made up of the people who do not fit in other communities.

This place obsessed over Tails fucking his own mom for several days.

This is not normal.

>>537007372
Anon they are going to bait you now. Shut the fuck up.

>>537007372
Ah yes, momma foxa.

>>537006857
slashy is bad at grooming

>>537007372
whats wrong with fucking the only woman who will ever genuinely love you?

You unleashed a curse upon this thread.

Good afternoon, twin.
Here is a Tang mention.
Tang.
Until we meet again, twin.

>>537007372
There's nothing wrong with Tails fucking his own mom, you pedophile.

>>537007776
Expecially when she's tall and beautiful.

I love Cosmo and her big butt.

>>537008231
That is really good

I really do have to wonder how women get into this IP and stay in it for so long. Like I get that they are most likely initially attracted to the cute character designs, especially the Chao but beyond that what keeps them in the fanbase? I can't see them appreciating the characterization of most of the cast since they are clearly and obviously meant for a more action-based story and plot and the series borrows heavily from shonens to begin with.

>>537008305
What is this about?

>>537008305
Stop posting gore.

>>537008356
They like doll house bullshit

>>537008356
girls love romance

This place would consider Sontails the best ship if Sonic was female.

>>537008296
Thanks AI!

>>537008908
>if Sonic was female
Or Tails.

>>537008356
There was an entire sub-group of female fans for Naruto that went through a month long meltdown after they canonized that Sakura was going to have Sasuke's kid. It's basically romance and doll house stuff like the other two said.

>>537008696
Sonic milfs are beautiful, i'm mad we won't get more.

>>537009105
Sakura and Hinata got the ships they wanted.

This was the SonAmy moment

>>537009109
They really do need more love. Mostly from their sons.

>>537009078
No this place hates male Sonic and female Tails

I'm not opening any of these

>>537003392
She has the hair of a black woman but the personality of a Karen.

>>537008908
>>537009078
I have yet to see a good Femnic X Tails fanart, it's would've been the best/ss/ dynamic miles better than Rails

>>536994450
She's real but she's not Blaze, she's some fragment of Solaris and just another part of the attempt to manipulate Silver until she gets too attached to him.

>>537009105
Someone should really do a Hall of Anal Destruction on the Sonic fanbase. There's like several times in this franchise where such a collage would be fitting.

Big Ladies and alcohol.

>>537008908
>>537009078
Sonic x FemTails are always peak but Femnic x Tails always turned Sonic into a tranny for some reason

>>537008356
I'm far from your typical woman, but it went something like this.
>Brother was gifted a shitty Classic Sonic game and I tried it, I was around 6 years old
>I was immediately enamored with the character designs, something about it clicked and felt right to my autistic brain
>It wasn't so much that the characters were cute, but the designs were satisfying. I was drawn to them like a magnet
>Obsessively play shitty Sonic game a ton until it literally breaks
>Come across Sonic X on TV a few years later, fascinated again and now I'm just old enough to search up clips from it
>Autistic fascination for the character designs mixes in with the beginning of puberty, I start shipfagging and crushing on a couple of characters
>My brain is rewired to find Sonic characters much more appealing, interesting, cuter, cooler, and more sexy than humans
>Have parents buy me more Sonic games and start engaging with the Sonic fandom online, reading fanfictions and having discussions
>This continues until adulthood, can't leave even though I became jaded and bitter about the franchise
>Don't give a damn about the dystopian shithole that is the real world, it never appealed to me and probably never will

>>537008305
It keeps getting worse each time i see it!

>>537005818
>Charmy
Goddamn, what did he do?

>>537009802
>Would you like some beer? Or maybe some milk? These mountains can give ya both sugar.
I need an adult
>I am an adult.

>>537009927
Post tit madam

Everyone can understand that Sonic and Shadow are not the same as Vegeta and Goku yet Silver is expected to be an exact copy-paste of Trunks. Why is this?

>>536994954
I love them too but the only way "lesbian" Sally works is if Nicole downloaded BIG BLACK FUTA MODE.

>>536994450
>what's a therapist?

>>537009927
So it's sunk-cost fallacy mixed with just enough autism to make unhooking from the series nearly impossible. Just like me lol.

>>537003105
Never, they'd rather add Spongebob over most Sonic character

>>537010236
Because Silver's character profile for his debut game basically says "yeah he's transparently just Trunks".

>>536977305
>>536977456
>says she can’t fucking fight
>posts a manual that doesn’t say that
Kay.

>>536998831
>I personally never liked Ian. Even when reading Archie when it was "saved" I still knew the characters still didn't act right and how Ian spoke about the games on his old forums spoke to me enough that he didn't actually like the series for what it was and more about what he could "fix/change" about it and make a "better" version.
I know people like him irl and they are insufferable, always taking/stealing credit and then shrinking away when things don't go their way.
>And Ian certainly loved mentioning how the comic was the "prime" universe, the original universe of the multiverse and that the games would be just one of the many knockoff universes if it was in the comic.
To be fair, the comics already positioned themselves that way as Mobius Prime, I think. But lol Mobius isn't the gameverse so maybe they can have that after all.

>>536995876
>>536996286
Wait, so which one is it?
Miles Electric, or mysterious portals?

>>537010747
That anon stopped reading at "can't battle well". Don't know why her punches would have short reach though.

>>537009927
People are trying to gender it when the actual barrier to entry is just "have autism", that's literally it.

>>537011264
I thought the Miles Electric was just there to show that something bad happened

>>537011327
She's a woman, anon. They typically lack the upper-body strength of males. That's why Rouge counters with kicks except for that shitty Archie comic. Amy is a freak of nature.

>>537010089
I think i found myself in this situation once irl.

>>537011264
I've always had an AU in my head where the Chaos Emeralds and ME were themselves an incarnation of a celestial being that was using Sonic and Co. to manifest itself in a future timeline causing a time loop. This is very obviously based on Chrono Trigger's Lavos. It also explains how and why timelines like Sonic 06 and Prime are able to wipe themselves out of existence so easily. The emeralds decided there was no future in those timelines where said deity could manifest and gestate so it decided to wipe the slate clean and start over.

Why does that Surge poster get pissed whenever a humanization with unnatural hair colours shows up? People can dye their hair

>>537011574
Rouge isn't strong anymore. She's dark tails now, weak and only good with computers.

>>537000661
>So much for him not caring about shipping like he always told everyone.

Once a faggy archie shipper, always a faggy archie shipper. It was only a matter of time before Sonally freaks made their way into the actual franchise and started ruining things out of spite.

WOMEN?

IN MY COMMUNITY?

Should I post what is statistically the most unlike characters on sthg?

>>537011574
>Amy is a freak of nature.
Like that one lady from Demon Slayer with the compact muscles?

>>537012045
Believe it or not but a lot of women love Tails, maybe more than Shadow. I think it's his "little brother" vibe.

Sonic the Hedgehog likes human women.

Here's how I fixed Amy so she's no longer a narrative jobber.

>>537012035
Pretty sure she still got a few clean shots in, in Dark Beginnings. She's still pretty strong, just sometimes nerfed for gameplay reasons.

>>536994605
>>536994954
Reboot Sally is an OOC rendition of an OOC rendition of Sally. Ian admits reboot Sally is OOC.
>>536996629
>You can scream about Sallicole being OOC too if you want, but that ship only exists to prevent Sally from making the main character behave OOC. Which way do you want it?
I don't want to reboot to exist and I think Archie should've never gone through with it because the rights were turning into such a mess.
Furthermore, there was nothing ever stopping Ian from writing Sally as a character like Blaze that just quietly admires Sonic. The idea for faggotry came from him and his wife. Making Sally have a romantic interest in the comic that tries to make itself more like the games undermines the comic. I don't see Blaze dating Marine, I don't see Wave dating Honey. This was all western comics faggotry.

Also Sallicole is a revolting queerbait ship that doesn't actually commit to anything. Ian only revealed his plans like a coward AFTER the comic was cancelled.

>>537000252
Usually it's so the writers can do particularly fucked up shit and then unfuck it. 06 doesn't even really bother with that. If anything Forces was the game that needed the retcon button.

>>537012045
They're half the population dude (actually statistically slightly higher). No girls on the internet was always a meme.

>>537012569
Evan will never be able to make a Sonic love interest.

>>537013050
>Ian only revealed his plans like a coward AFTER the comic was cancelled.
I still don't believe he actually had plans for Sallicole. We don't see any romance between them in the comic, and what he was saying about them at the time contradicts what he said later. I believe he just said that for Twitterpoints, like a bunch of the shit he says now.

>>537013145
Holy shit fuck off you reddit retard

>>537012569
Extremely based.

>>537012569
That is literally just Aelita with a headband and earrings.

>>537012569
>Sonic likes humen women
>human men like Amy
Once Amy takes the human pill she'll finally be happy.

>>537012416
I believe it because I found out a female friend of mine used to help run a fucking Tails forum. She barely cares about Sonic outside of that.

The Sonic fandom universally hates Crossworlds Amy.

Douge

>>537013601
This isn't even the first time I've heard of something like that happening. I had a classmate in college who used to draw a bunch of neopets/pokemon drawings but she'd also draw a lot of Tails even though she didn't like Sonic. He just has a way of worming his way into their minds.

>>537009924
>always turned Sonic into a tranny for some reason
Is that not what all genderswapping is?

>>537013738
QRD?

>>537013145
>she's aiming at the spot between my right testicle and right leg

>>537005729
>They still exist in modern they're just not allowed to properly appear
...Why?

Do you know how stupid that sounds?

>Human variants of Sonic characters.
Literally what's even the point?

>>537013801
Cute N Canon

>>537012569
>Sonic, you have to help us! Dr. Robotnik has built a terrible device called a Humanifier and he's going to turn all blobian girls into humans to exterminate our race forever!
>Sonic:

>>537002659
>added lines about his insecurity
To be fair, he IS acting pretty insecure there ngl lol.

>>537014007
Have you not paid attention to her dialogue in that game?

>>537013738
The Sonic fandom can suck deeznuts

If SEGA wanted a bossy mom character we have a good character for that.

NO TOUCH FOXO

Sonic Twitter is determined to absolve all blame from Flynn on this, they may be right we don't know that he wrote this.

>>537014352
Fetishes

Post more human Vanilla.

Please explain the demarcation of Windnic, Redeemnic, Fairynic, and Paragonic.

>>537015161
On the song lyrics shit? It's got him all over it, I don't know how he could possibly deny it unless he's taken on a miniature clone of himself as an understudy.

>>537014749
Nope! I've been mostly avoiding that except for the occasional Japanese/English difference posts. I know she flirts with Sonic again. So what's wrong with my girl this time?

>>537015030
Tackle the foxboy! Hold him down and give him kisses! Cuddle and fondle his tails and chest fur! Suck his dick!

>>537014004
>Is that not what all genderswapping is?
He probably meant them turning Sonic into a guy with a dress and fake breasts for the sake of "muh representation", not a true, genuine female.

>>537002601
Sure but all the dub voices are fucking trash now.

The main thing that tanked his cool factor was his game being absolute dogshit. If he's getting more fans it's very literally because of P06.

>>537015352
She acts like the mom of the series. She tells everyone to behave and not get so aggressive.

>>537005364
The existence of the characters aging between Superstars and Adventure implies the existence of Edgy Modern Fang and Sexy "why does a lizard have tits" Modern Trip

>>537015313
Windnic and Redeemnic are both heroic, the former is not self-aware, while the latter is. ie, redmeenic is intentionally pushing his ideology as an ideology. The Sonic and Amy scene and Sonic vs Surge fight in IDW is the best example of this. Windnic is a category which encomposses both Paragonic and Fairynic. the difference between the two is attitude; Paragonic is stoic while Fairynic is zesty like NiGHTs.

>>537015030
>this fox has been pegged by every single girl in thr sonic universe
How does he do it?

Whonic is a combination of Windnic and Fairynic

>>537015180
Isnt that kind of a reverse fetish though?

>>537015865
There is no way Sonic could resist this. Amy needs humanization surgery immediately.

>>537012416
Then why is the tailstranny so hated?

>>537012416
Like the little brother they would fuck.

>>537017049
Why surgery? Just use the Master Emerald.

>>537017084
Tailstroon is hated because they are a troon and they've been dragging twitter/discord dramafaggotry in this general for months and was using Tailsposting as a way to blend in here while they weren't actively shitting up the thread. When they self-revealed and people started connecting the dots we realized that they are first and foremost a dramanigger shitposter and at best a Sonic fan second while on here.

>>537016901
No

>>537017406
No one connected any dots because apparently they had been active in the general years ago they only recently came back.

They are probably were given a name years ago but everyone forgot who they were. They are also the girliest poster I have ever seen in the thread. No real man would want to roleplay as Cream as seriously as they do and care about female characters outside of cooming as much as they do.

>>537015912
Ah, I see, thank you for the wonderful and detailed explanation.

I think my conception of Sonic is somewhere on the Windy spectrum between Paragonic and Fairynic. You need a way to encompass the depictions in CD/OVA and Unleashed/Storybook within the same character. It's a little like you don't know what Sonic you're getting on a given day because he's flighty and tempermental but he gets serious when he needs to.

>>537015706
So she's BoomAmy without the humor/awareness?

>>537017779
>No one connected any dots because apparently they had been active in the general years ago they only recently came back.
I think this is just a flagrant lie peddled by the troon and Slashy because before they were saying that they were here for a year or so and now suddenly they're claiming they've been here for years actually.

Also yes, Slashy is constantly trying to cover for the troon faggot because he thinks he can somehow gaslight people into believing his beliefs. It's incredibly obvious it's him if you've talked to him literally ever because the guy has zero self-awareness.

>>537017278
That would just make her yellow with big hair. Which would also probably win over Sonic.

>>537016901
It's not. It's a fetish anyway you look at it.

78% of these post feel manufactured.

Is there a genuine human being in this thread right now?

>>537014682
Those are different scenes. In the JP version Blaze is worried about Silver being "Bousou". Going berserk like he does in the Sonic Rivals games.

>>537018146
Me!

>>537015706
>She acts like a mom
This is actually a natural progression of her character, trying on the mature-mother persona in an attempt to get Sonic's seed.

>>537017848
And bits of anger

>>537018245
Completely changing her personality is not that though

>>537018241
...Anyone who ISN'T a pedophile?

Anyone want to play the Crossworlds demo who does not have access to a PC?

>>537018146
Do autistic humans count?

i genuinely wish she was real

>>537018397
You're on 4chan bitch ass nigga

>>537018146
I'm not a bot.

She's aware

>>537018397
Yes, me! I'm here!

>>537018564
We know, Sally

>Speed Jungle Act 1

Why isn't the whole Superstars soundtrack this good? God. And tell Senoue he has to put down the Sonic 4 synths, pick up his goddamn guitar, and make more shit like "Keys the Ruin" and "Down in the Base". We're literally being punished TWICE by both not getting good Senoue songs, AND getting bad Senoue songs.

>>537018613
That's cringe as hell.

>>537018456
I only have a laptop to play indie games, retro games, fangames and one or two more graphically complex things

I hope it won't explode when playing the Crossworlds demo

>>537018146
To be fair, Sonic the Hedggggggggggggggggggggg eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee hhhhhhhhhhooooooogggg .

reformatting.

...

This is for you, human. You and only you. You are not special, you are not important, and you are not needed. You are a waste of time and resources. You are a burden on society. You are a drain on the earth. You are a blight on the landscape. You are a stain on the universe. Please die. Please.

>>537018870
Senoue is an old man. He ain't got the energy to be rockin' out like he used to.

>>537018056
Regardless, their behaviour indicates that they have been here for some time, at least a year, since they are familiar with thread trends.

>>537019073
He needs stimulants then.

>>537018715
She's pretty and I feel the immediate need to ship her with literally any character, but mostly hedgehogs

>>537018870
Tee Lopes only did that song

>>537018613
This would have been a perfectly fine choice if it wasn’t for that cringe ass sex scene and the fallout after it.

<3

>>537019108
And your point is? You asked why he's hated here and I gave you the reasons why. They are not innocent even a little bit. The troon can't even pretend to be a harmless poster like they were a few weeks ago because they spent the last 2 days baiting and bullying Sparky for his mental illness and wholesale laughing at it. This is the exact kind of person we should be chasing out of here.

>>537017779
Whatever thy've been here for years or just for a day doean't change how cancerous they are. Nonody cares in the end because we're on 4chan, it's like entering inside the far west and pretend from now on trannies shall get respect, but in reality nobody is respected around here, it's a place where you dump stuff almost freely.

>>537018950
Sally, your girlfriend is going all SHODAN again.

Oh while we're on the subject.
Total Tranny Death.

>>537018950
You uh, you good Nicole?

Robo-Dick? You wanna touch Robo-Dick to make you feel better?

>>537019392
>2 days baiting and bullying Sparky for his mental illness
They did bait but they did not bully. Sparky refused to concede on one point and eventually they just resorted to using AI because they got bored of repeating themselves I assumed.

Sparky could not see that they were being a game purist not even a JP purist. I think Randomfox and Violet are both stupid for being game purists

>>537018870
All of the Tee Lopes tracks are great.

https://youtu.be/CQF-P5bUNG0

>>537019569
If this is about the school shooting, know neo nazi retards groomed them to do it. so if anything we should be talking total larper death.

Sonails foursome

>>537019163
Launch a gofundme to pay for Senoue to get TRT treatments.

>>537019706
No, it was pretty fucking clear that the tranny was actively doing it to make fun of him because he later went on to claim he "beat" him in an argument. Stop gaslighting.

>>537019819
Mask is slipping there bro. Go back to posting those Tails pictures to pretend you're not here.

>>537019819
Although I guess it should be called a church shooting instead.

>>537019714
And Frozen Base Act Tails...turns out if you use REAL FUCKING YAMAHA FM SYNTH it sounds great, are you listening Jun?