Thread 76469746

>Who is /fat/ for?
For dieting ducks working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.
Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/

>What do I do first?
1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/
2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy
3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/
Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.
4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php
5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros), LoseIt (great for both), or Waistline (FOSS).

>Now what?
Count calories, all of them.
Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.
Buy scales, be accurate.
Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.
Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.
Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.
Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and lose fat much quicker. Not lifting results in the body eating away muscle AND fat.
Drink more water.
Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html

>DON'T
Eat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.
Eat processed foods.
Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).
Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks.
"Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.

>Other resources:
Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/
Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faq

Previous thread: >>76466344

LUV feelin the hunger pangs
Simpoo as

>>76469746 (OP)
Come on, you forgot the title AGAIN. Are you really in that much of a hurry to shit on the nunfag?

the main problem with the feeling of hunger for me is that it is seems to be in the neck/upper chest, like there is a gap there, will this eventually go away? since it shouldn't even be there? the hunger from the stomach/belly is not too much of a problem

Cringe faggot zoomie thread again

sinful nuns kept at bay for now, expect seething

>>76469846
i am ready to witness a meltdown
>>76469784
haha yeah, "forgot"
>>76469844
oops :3 hope your weight loss is going well!

>>76469856
You are pathetic

>>76469856
>haha yeah, "forgot"
Stupid and immature.
Well fuck this, I'm out. I have no time for fatty drama.

Where the nuns??
This drama fuckery is getting old fast.

>>76469746 (OP)
thoughts on AWs?

How empty amd sad does your life have to be that you sit around trying to take over a /fat/ general. Like imagine how pathetic your life would have to be. How much of a sad loser with no friends you would need to be.

>>76469915
>>76469890
>>76469882
>>76469932
WAHHHH WHERE ARE THE NUNS, WAHHHH

Children.

>>76469937
>NOOOOO EVERYTHING HAS TO BE THE WAY I WANT IT TO BE
You are the one acting like a child

>>76469937
This isn't even /fat/. I never saw a thread where literally nobody was talking about weight loss. Idgaf about nuns. But fuck you in particular for being like a power hungry reddit mod.

>>76469943
>You are the one acting like a child
WAHHHH you da won actin liek a child :(((

>>76469944
you niggas derailed it actually, did you even read the thread? it started off about fat loss. can we all agree that this nun vs no nun shit has nothing to do with me and my struggle to see my cock? we are all just here to see cock.

>>76469949
>>76469951
Please kill yourself you discord tranny reddit mod faggot

>>76469953
>Seething, hard
lol

*doesn't jiggle your belly*
This thread suggs

>>76469953
i am here to lose weight. please take your photo contest elsewhere

>>76469834
my dude what are you talking about? have you tried a bit of caffeine? anyway, the hunger will generally settle after some time and then ramp back up slowly and when it's unbearable you can soldier through but you can also take a maintenance week and get back into it with substantially lower hunger and a few other benefits to biomarkers

>>76469746 (OP)
Why do you always forget the title? Are you retarded?

>>76469999
Yes also he's an ironic shitposter

I'm 285.2lb and 6'5". Down from 300 on September 10th. Eating 2000kcal average per day. Losing 5-7 per week so far, but expecting that to slow to 4 in the coming weeks.
I'm 200lb lean mass and hoping to be 220 total weight before Christmas (God is good). Wagmi???

>>76470015
>setptember 10th
So you've lost 15lbs since last year?

>>76469977
my dude
holy fucking reddit

>>76469999
Seething burns extra calories. Imagine how many pounds of fat he's collectively melted off anons' body with this simple trick.

>>76470025
Oh lol not since September. Since July 10

How do I encourage my fat friend to walk. He's always been really fat and now it's getting worse. I walk every day, as do several of our mutual friends, sometimes together other times not. Fat friend is prideful and self concious and I fully understand not wanting everyone to see you addressing your weight, really betrays an idgaf mindset.
He talks about getting a treadmil or a dog, because walking a dog is a reasonable excuse to be out on a walk, but this dude is not responsible enough for a dog and the treadmil is an excuse and will never get used.
Again, I fully understand his pride and stubbornness, I feel the same way about most things. Most of my inspirations are really cornball shit like hardcore bands and outlaw biker books and I don't know how to sell that to someone else

>>76470027
i dont use reddit nigga i use whatsapp and telegram and youtube and also 4chan for like 14 years

>>76470125
get him to do it in the group first of all, and try to use the buddy system with him if it's convenient for you. if you can help him beat anxiety by accompanying him and allow him to hold himself accountable by having him tell you he's gonna work on it, that's a lot of the battle right there. but he's clearly afraid to exercise at all, let alone to exercise for any reason that appears to be specifically about health

>>76470125
>How do I encourage my fat friend
You really can't. It has to come from them, if they don't want to change and take the first steps themselves they wont change their ways. And nothing you say or do will persuade them to. Best you can do is inspire them, I've seen lots of people attempt to lose weight because of me, and I encourage them when I can.

Creatine day 7
Up a total of 3.8lbs from my low. Ive been consistently losing 2-2.5 lbs per week or so. When will this water retention end already -_-

>>76470177
it depends. breaking an addiction requires a competing interest. breaking through the anxiety of getting started often requires lowering the barrier (through graduated exposure, for example). if the barrier is a failure of executive function, then lowering the barrier can mean being an accountability buddy. you indeed cannot make someone do anything they don't want to do, but if they genuinely want to do it and can't get over the mental barriers, there are things you can do to get them started and even give them enough momentum to keep moving on their own.

almost none of us learned to ride a bike without training wheels or an adult's help. learning alone by getting on a normal bike and falling and hurting oneself over and over is possible, but it's needlessly difficult and might put someone off completely.

>>76470213
the water retention doesn't end, that's the point of creatine supplementation. it all sits in your muscles anyways so you've more or less improved your body composition over the past week.

was there ever a conclusion to the creatine hair loss saga?

>>76470227
Yes, but eventually I will reach the max amount of water retention and it won't keep increasing. People have told me this takes about a week, but we will see

That sailrabbit website doesn't work at all

>>76470284
works here

>>76470292
weird,it works now here too

>>76470152
>>76470177
>>76470220
Thanks for the input. I'll keep on doing my thing and encouraging him when he takes initiative. Trying to push people never seems to work.
On a brighter not, my other fat friend (arguably fatter but much taller) seems to be really enthusiastic about counting calories and walking. This motivates me not to slack off when I'm back in shape and try to keep the ball rolling in my friend group

>>76470365
good shit bro. you're a good friend

>ate a big granny smith apple that weights 335 grams
>Couldn't even touch the rest of my breakfast after drinking water
didn't know apples and water were so filling

>>76470578
There's 30+ grams of sugar in that
Alien ass sugarmaxxed mutant apple

>>76470604
no wonder it was so tasty

>>76469746 (OP)
bro messed up the title
ICANT

>>76470604
most apples even wild apples have 10% sugar content but they are not 350 grams thats for sure

>>76469746 (OP)
>>76469856
>>76469937

OP you retarded nigger faggot, the point of making a non-nun thread was to make an otherwise completely normal /fat/ thread but without nuns. If nun-fags were to seethe at that it would be them looking like retards.
But instead you made a retarded and incomplete bait thread and then gloat about it like some faggot little underage edgy troll, you look like the biggest faggot retard now.

>>76470604
Touch grass, no one, not a single person in history was or will be fat because they ate an apple at breakfast.

>>76469194
I exercised a metric fuck ton yesterday. But also I am pretty my apps are overestimating my exercising and shit. Regardless, I dont eat above my BMR regardless so I always stay in a deficit.

Slow as hell but I weigh 407lbs so I'm kind of proud I could do it at all.

Fatty Contest
KickboxAnon
218.7lbs

IDK what happened this week but the weight is just falling off of me.

>>76469746 (OP)
>no subject
>/r9k/ image
>didn't even change 'dieting ducks'
This is the person complaining who complains about the nuns.

>>76470651
I would be concerned being that heavy and walking that much that I would cause my joints some friction and perhaps permanent damage. I wouldn't cut out walking as an exercise completely but I'd focus more on creating a deficit by having a low calorie intake.

>>76470651
you're doing better than the folks that won't get out of bed or off their couch

>>76470673
I'm normally a little worried about that, especially my knees, but they didn't hurt at all. The only pain I had was in my feet but I think that's true of anybody walking that far for the first time. I normally do 5 miles twice a week but just to be safe I'm not going again until Sunday.

Life hack for your guys, but if you never eat above your bmr, you will lose weight

I don't feel my back activate at all when I do back workouts. I feel like my form is fine. Maybe my muscles are so pathetically small and weak I can't feel them.

>>76470724
That's basically 2 meatballs and 2 eggs cooked in 5 grams of butter for lunch and for dinner to lose 2 lbs per week. And that's as a stereotypical hermit. The portions are what you'd feed to a 1st grader.

This past 2 weeks I have dropped all the goyslop from my diet and have been eating fresh meat, fresh vegetables and rice for every meal, my energy levels have dumped of a cliff and it feels like its getting worse.
How long is this supposed to last? I thought eating better food was supposed to make us feel better.
This morning I had some oatmeal with some slice banana, felt like napping all afternoon. About an hour ago I had 3 chicken breasts with some roasted sweet potatoes and rice, had it with some zero fat yogurt and mustard sauce on top, tasted great but again I feel like I'm about to collapse and sleep for 10 hours.

>>76470771
You're diabetic

>>76470771
Your body is craving all that stuff extremely hard. I would think two weeks should be close to the end, but everybody is a little different.

>>76470775
I piss on my finger when I go to the bathroom and taste it and there's no sweetness my weewee tastes like olives or faintly of mineral water if my weewee is clear

>>76470775
How tf do I deal with that?

>>76470781
Go get diagnosed and get some meds

>>76470780
t. Cringe faggot who made this cringe faggot thread

>>76470771
And what were you eating before? Goyslop and chips and you were not crashing after that?
Lmao

>>76470125
Tell him he can still have his aloof attitude while still doing the right thing.

>>76470781
Don't take Dr. Anon at his word. Go get some orange juice from the store and drink a glass. If you suddenly feel better, you might have a problem.

>>76470785
Untrue, I weewee on the maker of this thread and also on you (to make you less salty)

>>76470791
Excuse me, I meant don't take his word as gospel. There is a decent chance he's right, but you shouldn't go off internet diagnoses alone.

>>76470769
Sounds like you dont have the will to lose weight

>>76469746 (OP)
>No nuns
>Not even a title
Dis-gus-tang

>>76470771
Hear me out dude because I know that feeling
Look up the sugar diet, yes it sounds retarded and longterm it probably is
But what it did for me was to help me get insane energy from carbs, it really kickstarted my metabolism
I used to be like that as well pre-diabetic and getting tired after every meal, then I tried the sugar diet which is basically just fruits with sugar all day for a few days
That shit pumped me up like crazy but I didn't want to miss out on protein so I went back to a /fit/ type of diet after (rice + chicken and veggies)
And lo and be hold I felt totally great, its like all the sugar from the weeklong sugar diet made my pancreas wake the fuck up and make the insulin get the work done

>>76470803
Dude fuck off with your retarded sugar shit

Just don't eat food, fucking retard
>but it hurts
yeah, so does being a fat ass

>>76470805
No, it worked for me and I want to help the guy

>>76470611
He did it on purpose to own the nunfag, its pretty based ngl.

>>76469921
What's AWs?

>>76470837
amazon web services

>>76470771
sugar withdrawal maybey, it's a thing . this is what happened when I cut out sugar. like didn't even started dieting at that point so it wasn't because of a calorie deficit it was just from cutting out sugar. after a few weeks things my energy levels went back to normal.

Whats the loose skin situation after losing 80+ pounds like?

so what do you guys think of thst one large randomized study in the uk thst showed that even "healthy" ultra processed foods don't help people lose weight?

>>76470852
CICO is the only thing that works. I didn't need a study for that

>>76470858
The reason you know so well that CICO works is likely because of studies

>>76470850
How old are you, how long have you been fat, is there any sag in your skin already?

>>76470852
Give examples of these "healthy" ultraprocessed food.

do yall think i could lose 50lbs in 70 days? currently eating about 1.2k calories a day and burning the fsame amount through exercise

>>76470886
Why do you need to lose 50lbs in 70 days exactly?

>>76470892
my friendgroup has a camping trip planned and i wanted to look my best

>>76470878
oat bars, fortified ready meals, protein cereals ect...

>>76470886
>50lbs in 70 days
Don't think it's possible unless you're like class 3 obese.
I've lost close to 30lbs in 40-50 days and some would say that's pretty extreme (245 down to 218)

>>76470886
>lose 50lbs in 70 days
you could if you are OK with risking recreating the opening scene from parasite eve and getting early onset cataracts even if you survive .

>>76470886
I lost about that amount in two months by doing 72 hour fasts and refeeding with keto. Just keep in mind that it's extremely easy to fall off the wagon and if you do you're likely to blow up like a balloon. I stopped after I got covid and gained all of it back in four months.

>>76470892
not him but i got to fly to a wedding I'm two months and I need to lose enough to fit on a plane seat.

>>76470886
You'd need a daily deficit of like 2500 calories. You'd basically need to fast the entire time.

>>76470899
>>76470913
>carbs and carbs

>>76470929
no one got fat on just hulled barley.

>was a retard and decided to quit cold turkey everything i like for healthier stuff like grilled chicken and broccoli
>miserable
>decide to just eat what i like in a small portions+a big portion of something like a salad to feel full
>everything's all good
oh to be retarded and fat

>>76470791
I'll try it tomorrow assuming I'm super fatigued all day again after eating.

I know this sounds like I'm trolling, but I swear I'm not, I'm 100% serious.

I've been on my diet for 4 months, and it's working very well so far(40kg down). I'm not having cheat days because they're cringe and "you only cheat yourself" kinda thing, I don't want to slow down my weight loss. But after 4 months, I'm starting to falter a little, and I'm craving really bad something like pizza, lasagna or something that tastes like that. I know I have enough willpower to just ignore my cravings and power through it, so it's no biggie, but it's starting to get to a point that I'm salivating at pictures of food.

So, the question is, how dangerous would it be to give yourself casual bulimia? Again, I swear I'm not trolling. I'm also not that retarded, I wouldn't puke food everyday, at most maybe once every two months if the cravings get really bad and I want to have a cheat day but I don't want to deal with the excess calories. I know pizza would make me happy a bit. Is it risky to do it even once, or do you only get really bad mental-disorder level bulimia if you do it every day? Has anyone here experimented with that? It sounds like the biggest cheat, and if your cheat days aren't often, is the risk of getting bulimia that high, even if you 100% trust yourself to do it extremely sparingly?

>>76470951
>Again, I swear I'm not trolling. I'm also not that retarded
x to doubt. don't throw up your food, throwing up is very unpleasant

>>76470951
I did it before and it's not a real cheat
If you eat and then throw up, I'm assuming this is what you're talking about, you don't feel as satisfied
Also the process is kinda nasty and ruins the fun of eating too imo

I FORGOT TO READ THE SERVING SIZE AND ATE 490 CALORIES FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>76470951
Retard peak ngmi

>>76470951
>I'm craving really bad something like pizza, lasagna or something that tastes like that.
Youre a faggot. I have pizza once every two weeks. Just budget for it and have a super light breakfast and other meals. Don't exceed your tdee. It's simple

>>76470951
You can still eat stuff you like, and even junk or fast food you just have to adjust the food to squeeze as many shitty calories out of it.
Like burgers, you can cut the bun and the sauce and just get it lettuce wrapped with mustard and you save 500 calories on it right there.

>>76470940
You have people itt who think you have to whip yourself and eat unseasoned chicken breast and broccoli for life to meet nutrition goals.

>>76470951
>Anon rather become bulimic instead of eating a slice or 2 of pizza that'll still be within his calories deficit

Real strategy:
Sleep in on a Saturday. Have a big ass burger for lunch or whatever you like that is like 1200 calories. Proceed with your day. Do your steps, workout. End the day with a 400 calorie dinner.

There you can eat shit just fine.

>>76470951
Just count calories and you can eat anything you want
>>76470976
based CICO chad

>>76470951
the nice thing about dieting is that buying a single slice of pizza makes sense. I would never bother with that when I could just go home and eat an entire frozen pizza and garlic fingers over the course of a gaming session. I slice and a can of zero sugar pop is great lunch when you're out having a time

>>76470956
>throwing up is very unpleasant
>>76470960
>Also the process is kinda nasty and ruins the fun of eating too imo

That's a good thing though, since it's even more of a deterrent to get addicted to it. So I hope it's as unpleasant as possible to if I do it I Pavlov myself into hating pizza

>>76470960
>you don't feel as satisfied
The goal is not to feel satisfied, to just end my craving for pizza without the excess calories. Like if there was a 0 calorie pizza I would eat it. I know it sounds crazy to some people that just view food as fuel, but I used to enjoy eating food, even if it wasn't satiating. That's how I got fat so now I learned to avoid it though xc


As an alternative I was also considering buying Orlistat/Xenical specifically for this. I have not been eating anything fatty in my diet so I saw no point, but if I end up eating pizza, since it's mostly cheese it would probably help a bit if I decide not to throw up. But most likely I'll just power through it, in like 15 days I probably won't crave that shit anymore

i gotta hurry up and lose weight so i can leave this place. you guys are nuts

>>76470994
Once people begin to count calories and properly budget, they start to psyche themselves out and think they are cheating or there is something more than it.
Just dont exceed your calories. A big mac is 600 calories.
You can have a big Mac every day and lose weight. You'll feel like shit because big macs macros wont fuel you well but you'll lose weight if you stay under tdee.

>>76471002
I get it but you will not lose the craving for pizza, you're just gonna reignite it and because you're not satisfied you're gonna want to eat the pizza for real
At least thats how I felt, but sure go ahead and try it
Dont forget to report back

>>76471002
eat the damn pizza and go for a walk man

Another day, another workout.
DON'T SKIP
WAGMI

Why can athletes eat like 5 whoppers and still be fit (relatively)? Because they burn calories. You can do the same shit.

>>76471027
Athletes have infinite freetime and no responsibilities

>>76471031
believe it or not, this is the dumbest post itt.

>>76470994
>>76471008
>just cico
I'm trying to go for a really really big deficit, I'm eating like 600 calories a day. A decent sized pizza is what, 3000 calories? You can't CICO your way out of it. Sure, you can cope and say "oh, your TDEE is like 2300, so just eat 2/3 pizza and you won't gain weight", yeah, but you will not lose the 0.3~ grams that you would have lost, and that's basically the same as gaining weight in the long term.

Maybe I can have a slice, at most two, but then I would just hate myself and want to jump off a bridge, probably wouldn't be enough to end my cravings and as a bonus I would feel hungry and have a huge migraine for the rest of the day. But if I eat pizza, puke, then eat my chicken broccoli, I'll keep it 600 calories and I believe it's probably more than good enough to end cravings if I eat a whole pizza.

>>76471019
>eat the damn pizza and go for a walk man
Sure, 3000 calories walking. Sounds easy, that's what, 10 hours? Surely my athletic body can handle it

>>76471015
>Dont forget to report back
I probably won't do it now to be honest, I'm scared. I was looking for some reassurance, I mean, you guys are nuts, I thought one of you guys would have tried this and have succeeded, I mean, there are people that fast for a whole month in this thread, but apparently no, puking one meal every two months on a cheat day is going too far.

>>76471054
lmao

>>76471031
They get paid to be really fit. So really they're just doing their job.

>>76471061
man i meant a slice or 2 not the whole damn pizza.

>>76471061
You might believe you're not trolling, but you're at least trolling yourself. Quit it with the piss baby excuses already.

These are the times that try men's souls. I'm nearly at target weight. Began bodyweight resistance recomp phase two days ago. Every single muscle fiber of my being is in dull pain. I am also stiff and old as fuck. I took the morning off work to sleep extra and now a cup of coffee is soaking in. It would be so incredibly easy to fuck off, eat burritos, sink a case of beer instead of suffering in the blazing fucking miserable sun for the next 1.5 hours.

The real question is, really, are you a pussy? ARE YOU A FUCKING PUSSY

So into the sun I go, godspeed bois, back with you later tonight after work and the second workout leg

>>76471061
Holy shit are you retarded

>aquire walking pad
>walk while watching TV
Could this be any easier

>>76471100
b-but it doesn't count if you don't do it outside

>>76471069
Sorry if I was mean, it was uncalled for. Do people genuinely eat just a slice of pizza though? Can you even buy a slice of pizza anywhere? I don't know if I'm too fat to even comprehend this concept, all the places I know only sell a whole pizza, and back when I was 40kg heavier, I'd eat one, two, even three pizzas(geez, I wonder how I gained weight). I never saw anyone eating a slice of pizza ever. I feel like there's not even a point in eating a single slice, I'd rather eat chicken to be honest.
>>76471095
>Holy shit are you retarded
I wouldn't be here with you all if I wasn't retarded.

>>76471087
>Quit it with the piss baby excuses already.
Like...? I feel like I've given the opposite of excuses. I literally said I won't eat it, and I was looking for anyone in the thread that tried it safely to know if it was okay to do every once in a blue moon. But whatever you say I guess.

Whatcha eating today /fat/?

>hey guys I'm dieting but I feel like eating an entire pizza, should I just do that and fucking puke?
>what do you mean I'm retarded?

Frozen pizzas here in yurop are 900 kcal

>>76470852
Processed foods are designed to get you addicted, so I'm not surprised. The goal of eating less is at direct odds with the food industry's goal of getting you to eat more.

>>76471121
>Do people genuinely eat just a slice of pizza though? Can you even buy a slice of pizza anywhere?
yes, there are places that sell pizza by the slice, although it is probably less common now than it used to be, unless you are in a big city like NYC. obviously chains like dominos don't do this, and there are many places which only make 12" pies, but you can probably find an old school place which sells by the slice.

are ALL of you mentally ill?

>>76471141
Really, what else do you need? It's kinda the perfect meal.

>>76471121
>Do people genuinely eat just a slice of pizza though?
similar energy

>>76471135
>should I just do that and fucking puke?
>>what do you mean I'm retarded?

Do you have experience with that? Have you heard of anyone that tried doing that, what happened to them? What is the worst that can happen to you if you do it at most once every two months? What is the average result?

I'll stop replying because I feel like I'm the one that is getting trolled. Is it that insane of a concept to eat a pizza for the taste and the fun of it after like 4 fucking months of dieting, and then puke so you don't have an extra 3000 extra calories in your body and don't slow down your weight loss? I guess that's too retarded, my bad. I'll just cico 3000 extra calories or walk for 10 hours, significantly easier than puking.

I ate 2000 calories today because I was treated to an unexpected burger bros.

My TDEE is around 2500 so I'm still at q deficit, but I was aiming for a low carb/sodium day to force a whoosh.

I am at like 170g of protein for the day at least.

Today's tally up:

2056 kcal
127 protein

Not the best day in terms of protein. I was at an event with work today, and I had a sugary soda as a "meal" during the event (it was the only thing in the fridge besides bottled water which i already had). 152 calories in that bad boy, and I thought to myself "Is this gonna bite me in the ass later?"

I kind of could have used those 152 calories for something much better now, that's for sure.

Moral of the story, don't bother with normal sodas it aint worth it.

One hundred and fifty two calories in a 33cl standard can of regular soda, that's insanity.

>>76471153
I could eat pizza every day tbqh

>>76471184
One time I did eat pizza everyday. Just 1 homemade pie that was ghetto and not pizza material.

I thoroughly enjoyed it and didn't feel bad at all

>>76471169
>Is it that insane of a concept to eat a pizza for the taste and the fun of it after like 4 fucking months of dieting, and then puke so you don't have an extra 3000 extra calories in your body and don't slow down your weight loss?
Puking your guts out is not enjoyable. Why can't you learn to lose weight in an enjoyable manner?

>>76471121
>Do people genuinely eat just a slice of pizza though?
People who don't eat every meal alone.

>>76470951
>replace one eating disorder with another
Ngmi

And yes, I often did chew and spit and proper vomiting from time to time when I was a healthy weight, now I’m back here in /fat/ aren’t I? You have to fix your relationship with food. 40 kg in 4 months- no shit you’re having cravings! A few potential options:

-make something healthier/lighter that would satisfy those cravings, like a lavash pizza or lasagna with zucchini/eggplant strips instead of pasta (safest option)
-go get a single slice of pizza and eat it in a restaurant/in public
-ideal option: go out with some friends and share a pizza (hard if you have a fucked up relationship with food)

Do NOT start buying junk food and sneaking it home to eat in secret/private, whether you puke it up or not. Same concept as alcoholism - you will only slide deeper into that hole.

Just broke my 40 hour fast with some fried chicken and pineapple slices
This has been the easiest fast I've done so far. The hunger pangs were manageable and I didn't feel like shit. All I ate yesterday was two cups of coffee and a single donut.

We need some autists to do a clinical study on the "one donut a day" diet.

>>76469181
eat shit retard

>>76471061
>A decent sized pizza is what, 3000 calories?
Nobody is saying to eat a pizza a day? How about two slices of pizza every Saturday instead?
>trying to get big deficits.
You really shouldn't

>>76471195
>Why can't you learn to lose weight in an enjoyable manner?
Honestly, because I'm too fat and doing it in an "enjoyable manner" is too slow, I don't want this to take 2 or 3 years, I want it to take 1 year and I'm okay with sacrificing a little bit of enjoyment and health for a significantly faster weight loss. If I was just a bit overweight and started at say 90kg then whatever, I could go slow, but I'm morbidly obese, I started at 165kg 4 months ago, and I'm 123kg right now, still morbidly obese. If I was just chilling with a 1000 calorie deficit like everybody tells you to I would be at like 142kg right now. I'm addicted seeing the number on the scale go down every day and every day that wake up, take a piss and I see my scale stagnate or go up it makes me sad, instantly ruins my day and makes me jump off a bridge, even if I always know that I didn't at all break my diet and it's just water, it still makes me feel like shit. I want to be 100kg by the end of the year and 70kg by April. I don't want to be a fatty in my next birthday, I want to enjoy cake(and not puke it). So I decided to do it in a "non enjoyable way" and then once I hit my goal weight I'll just go to a nutritionist, do a calorimetry exam or something to figure out my exact TDEE and just switch to eating at maintenance. Answers your question?

how on earth does this dude put one of these away every single day and not gain a gram of weight, this has to be like 600-800 calories?

>>76470886
>50 lbs of fat = 22.67 kgs
>So 22.67*7700 kcals = 174559 kcals
>174559 kcals /70 days = 2493.7 kcals/day deficit.

Realistic (but ambitious) is 2kg/week = 20kg = 44 lbs in those 70 days.
Anyways, stop planning retarded ideas like this, just get started losing weight, if you miss your 50 lbs goal and lose only 30, you'll still be 30 lbs better off than now.

>>76471232
you will reach your goal weight and then regain it this way
motivation doesn't last forever
no one can do something they hate doing forever
if you don't learn how to enjoy eating healthy then you will go back to old habits

>>76470886
yes

>>76471232
>I want it to take 1 year and I'm okay with sacrificing a little bit of enjoyment and health for a significantly faster weight loss.
Just do fasting dude, join us at /fast/ its 100% the way to go and you can occasionally eat a pizza or whatever

Made dinner. Life is good.
Imam bayildi (the eggplant), more filling that's left over, a chicken breast and some homegrown beans.
~450-500 kcals all in all.

>>76471290
I'm not a fan of eggplant but the rest looks good.
I just ate some cottage cheese + lean ground beef bolognese

>>76471296
>I'm not a fan of eggplant but the rest looks good.
Damn, eggplant is my favorite vegetable I think.
The filling is similar to a middle-eastern spiced piperade - which is to say it's delicious.
Cottage cheese would have gone well with it too.
>lean ground beef bolognese
Sounds pretty tasty too. I'd maybe make some zoodles or something with it, but a good bolognese is always welcome.

>>76471285
Insane cardio is the superior weight loss method, lost over 100 pounds in 7 months eating 1500 calories of whatever I want.

Went from almost class 3 obese to a healthy weight in barely more than half a year without starving.(ngl I get hungry some days though)

>>76471265
>you will reach your goal weight and then regain it this way
You underestimate how much gaining weight makes me want to kill myself. The only reason I gained weight was because I had completely given up and was planning to die at 30, so I just did not care at all and ate whatever in my 20s, I didn't even know what a calorie was before I started this, my self esteem was so low that I didn't give a fuck if I looked like a disgusting landwhale or not since it wouldn't make a difference. But now if I see a 3 day plateau I immediately start freaking out, fasting and doubling cardio.

I genuinely don't know how people that are trying to lose/maintain weight can gain 10kg+, hell, even 5kg+. You have to actively stop trying.

I could probably not do this diet uninterrupted for 2 years, but I'm so close to the 100kg line now, I can easily do it for a few more months, then just switch to maintenance. If I do this for a year, eating for maintenance will be a breeze, it's not like I'll hate it, I will be able to eat *almost* anything since I'm doing OMAD and I actually enjoy OMAD(I just don't enjoy the chicken broccoli everyday, that sucks). Since I learned to count calories now, if I find out my TDEE I can just go back to the foods I love, just regulate the quantities. It is that easy

So no, I don't think I'll regain weight. I now know how hard it was to lose it, and how easy it is to gain, I won't trample on my hard work. I'm to the point that I'd rather end myself than gain 10kg

>>76471342
you belong in a nuthouse tbdesu

>>76471354
He's avatarfagging so of course he does

>>76471290
>>76471315
How do you make eggplant not bitter and disgusting?

Hard mode ; no salt

I started the day with 1200 calories. There's still hope for me right?

>>76471342
>So no, I don't think I'll regain weight
You hubris will be your downfall. We'll see you again in 2-3 years anon.

>>76470951
What works for one person might not work for another. I did what you were doing before and I crashed hard because I "cheated" and had some pizza and cheesecake and then proceeded to binge until I fell off completely. Now what I do is one meal a day (or pseudo OMAD where I'll only eat in a set period of time) and I eat whatever I want. If I feel a craving for pizza or some other shitty food that's high calorie I just eat it and stay within my deficit range. Also if I'm at the end of the day and get a really intense craving I'll eat something small to satiate it even if it lowers my deficit for the day. This has been what's sustainable for me but might not be for you. Don't fucking give yourself bulimia though, retard.

How often do you eat fast food? I eat it every Sunday but idk if this is too much. I usually skip every meal that same day just to eat out.

>>76471362
Choose good eggplants and use salt.
Slice them and salt, dice them then salt, or in that picture soak them in saltwater. Wash the salt off after a bit with fresh water and pat dry.
Also when buying the eggplants, try to get young/fresh ones. If they are leathery or old, the bitterness will be stronger.
>Hard mode ; no salt
Well shit. Personally I don't really mind bitter aromas (Padron peppers are amazing if cooked right), so I'll not bother trying to get it out personally.
Most of the bitter compounds are in the skin though, so consider skinning the eggplant before dicing or if you're cooking it like I did in that pic, scoop out the flesh with a spoon and leave the skin over.
>>76471399
Never.
>I eat it every Sunday but idk if this is too much
It's too much.
>I usually skip every meal that same day just to eat out.
If you're okay with that tradeoff, then you can get away with it. But you're always going to be fastfood brained due to it. Stuff like tasting the sweetness in vegetables, or being able to eat dishes without 5 tons of flavor enhancers are effects that you'll never get, because you're basically suicide bombing your tastebuds once a week.

>>76471134
Skrimps

>>76471420
Thanks I'll try that advice, I like the texture of eggplant in theory but I only had bad experiences with it

>>76471285
>/fast/
I tried that at first but I had too much mind fog, so I switched to eating 400~600kcal omad with chicken broccoli, the results on the scale were pretty similar to me and I didn't feel any mind fog unless I hard overdo cardio(which makes me feel an extremely strong migraine). But that combined with 1~2 hours of jogging right now feels the best for me. Someone told me there's a diet called protein sparing modified fast which is similar to what I'm doing.
I think you /fast/ bros are based though, so respect!

>>76471328
>Insane cardio
Fuck do you do for cardio, run for a few hours?
I'm walking 2 hours right now, but I'm still afraid running since I'm fat, knee surgery and whatnot. But I'm noticing that I can jog faster and faster every week. Once I get to sub100 I might wanna look into it

>>76471377
>>76471354
Your doubts feel me with determination to continue this and prove y'all wrong. In 6 months I'll be having pizza for lunch and I won't even have to ask a bunch of retard faggots to figure out weather I can puke it safely without getting bulimia or not, because I won't need to, because I'll be thin desu! Watch me <3

>>76471466
Hope it works out for you anon. The three ways I'd recommend trying is:
- As Imam bayildi (so baked whole), then scrape out the insides instead of cutting into pieces, so that the skin is left. If the bitterness is an issue, try the saltwater soaking method. Do cut slices into the skin with a peeler or the saltwater won't be able to penetrate
- In a stew like mualle (dice eggplant, salt, let sit for a while, wash the salt off with water, drain, then braise)
- Baked (cut into long slices lengthwise, salt, let sit, pat dry, (wash off salt if you want low sodium), then either bake in the oven or grill).

If none of these 3 approaches appeal to you, it's just not for you, which is perfectly fine. Sometimes we just have preferences that we can't explain or that aren't rational.

>>76471486
You should take your own advice and unironically kill yourself

>>76471486
Notice why I said 2-3 years, and not 6 months.
I'm willing to believe you'll get there in 6 months. But I'm also willing to bet you'll be back here 2-3 years later.
I sincerely hope you don't, but you're like a child playing with a fragile toy oblivious to the fact that it'll break in a few minutes. All the adults know, though they can't pinpoint if it'll happen in 5 minutes or 15, but they see that there'll be tears. Some (like me) will make a futile attempt to tell the child, but it can't understand and proudly proclaims that it'll be "super careful".
I hope you prove me wrong.

I'm letting myself getting psyoped into drinking diet soda since I now believe the fake sugar isn't actually that bad for you after all.
Crazy how there's both Diet Coke and Coke Zero. Think I'll pick up some Diet Dr Pepper too.

>>76471504
You are ngmi

>>76471535
I wouldn't have thought it possible many years ago anon, but I already mostly did.

>>76471528
>I'm letting myself getting psyoped into drinking diet soda since I now believe the fake sugar isn't actually that bad for you after all.
enjoy "IBS"

>>76471134
Home made protein beef burrito for lunch with garden banana peppers and plantain chips and lean cuisine swedish meatballs with garden cherry tomatoes and maybe a desert bar.

>>76471528
I found that shit just made me hungrier. I tried it because I was a little bored of having water all the time. Got it and then next thing I knew I was chugging it non-stop and started craving slop like crazy, and my only recourse was to chug more of the stuff to try to distract myself, ultimately I just stopped having it. Cravings evaporated after like 3 days after stopping, I felt a huge relief once it was over.

I think the artificial sweeteners or whatever they put in that stuff just triggers hunger or something. Wouldn't recommend.

>>76471552
I'd substitute flavored sparkling waters instead if it causes cravings and you want something besides water. My only issue with it is that around me that shit is so expensive compared to soda.

>>76471563
Nah, I'm happy with just drinking water again. I learned my lesson, if it seems too good to be true it probably is. I'll be avoiding all that "zero-calorie" drink shit that isn't water or tea. Artificial flavors/sweeteners or whatever they put in those things to make you hungry and crave more are insidious as fuck. Nothing tastes as good as the peace of mind I have when I'm not fighting cravings all day.

>>76471134
Made >>76471290
Glad to see you still making your cast iron broccoli stew still, it looks nice.

>switches from eggs to egg whites for first time
>makes big ass bowl of scrambled eggs
>looks vile but tastes fine
>half way into eating and the bowl is suddenly 50% water
wtf

>>76471563
>flavored sparkling waters
I don't get how people don't enjoy unflavoured pure sparkling water. Tastes great to me. The flavoured stuff always tastes too syrupy I can't stand it.

Fatty Contest
Makimas Footstool
123.35kg

>>76471504
Why do you think so many people gain that much weight after dieting though? Like seriously, it can't be that hard to eat at maintenance if you understand calorie counting, no? I'll be honest, I don't think you'll convince me to drop a diet that is working really well for me, but since you do be reading studies, do they have any advice to prevent regaining weight once I hit my goal? I do 100% think I have a good grasp on it, but it never hurts to listen.
Also, you're talking almost as if it's already doomed, but if 20% of people manage to not regain weight, that's pretty decent odds, it's not like 1%. It's also probably one of those "90% of business fails", but most business are shit, led by people with no clue or market research with garbage ideas. Most people on fad diets are probably clueless and want to do it to lose a bit of fat for the summer, they don't understand proper calorie counting or how food works, they don't have a plan on how to keep the weight down and just go back to their old habits. I feel like since I have an okay grasp on all of that, even intend to consult with a proper nutritionist, my odds should be way higher than average.

I probably won't be here in 3 years since I can't stand you fucks, but I'll still be here in a year or two. If you're still around then watch me, if I ever gain more than 3kg please shame me, call me a retard and tell me to kill myself.

>>76471504
>diet soda
Started it 3 weeks ago. Can confirm, no difference on scale. I guess it's true that the thing is 99% water. Now weather it's good for you or not, probably not, but I've seen multiple doctors saying you have to drink a shitton those artificial sweeteners in order to see any negative effects, like liters upon liters of it. So water is still best, but for weight loss it won't make a difference desu.

>>76471290
The only thing that is actually food on that plate is the chicken

>>76471630
Veggies are food; humans thrive on veggies this has been proven

>>76471636
veggies are not food
you are not a cow

>this has been proven
by "science"™
make sure to avoid red meat, eat the bugs, and take the vaccine too

>>76471642
I'll avoid red meat, just because chicken tastes better
I sure hope you'll avoid all vegetables

>>76471651
>I sure hope you'll avoid all vegetables
I do, I haven't eaten a salad in years
bet I weigh less and lift more than you too

>>76471589
Ive been eating it nearly everyday since September and I still love it and look forward to eating it. And im still losing weight, its like the perfect meal for me. I absolutely love it.

>>76471624
>>76471486
>>76471342
>>76471232
>>76471169
same energy

>>76471657
Good good

>>76471630
what kind of retard diet are you on, friendo?

>>76471624
>Why do you think so many people gain that much weight after dieting though?
Because (crash) dieting is a fundamentally different modus operandi than daily life. It's easy to keep going while you're motivated, see results (weightloss), and pay close attention, but eventually you will have to go back to daily life, and the skillset from the diet doesn't transfer to that.
TL;DR It's people who never got good habits or a better lifestyle going back to daily life.
>I'll be honest, I don't think you'll convince me to drop a diet that is working really well for me
I think you're confusing me with some other anon, I'm not trying to convince you to stop shit, I merely wanted to point out that your approach of "I'd never regain the weight now that I know" is naive - all those people in those studies were at that point once and they failed, so some humility to admit that you're no different would probably help.
>do they have any advice to prevent regaining weight once I hit my goal
Little in terms of actionable advice that is proven in a statistically significant manner. My advice is lifestyle change and better habits. Try to make it so you eating healthily isn't something you "do" actively, it's just the norm. You don't have to do that now, but you should pay attention to it when you're close to done.
>Also, you're talking almost as if it's already doomed,
I feel like (and this is purely a feeling I have 0 evidence for it) I'm looking at a friend making bad decisions when I read your post loudly claiming it'd never happen to you. I just wish everyone in here succeeds.
>diet soda
Diet soda is bad in the way that artificial sweeteners are bad and MSG is bad - not inherently, but they keep you chained to having an appetite to those old flavors. If you're fine with that - go ahead and enjoy them. Just know that it keeps you craving that ultra sweetness or super intense msg flavor.

i'm beginning to think this place is filled with people who have eating disorders. i bet i'm the only fat mother fucker here

>>76471673
being fat is an eating disorder my fat bro

>>76471371
I'm afraid the help you need is beyond what this general can provide. Anything above 800 calories a day will see you swell up like a balloon.

>>76471630
You're missing out anon.
>>76471659
Glad to hear that anon.
Mind giving me a quick rundown so I can try your approach when I'm sick of my usual way of making chicken?
My guess is you're pre-cooking the broccoli florets in the oven on a wire rack for airflow (or airfryer), same with the chicken given the skin it's developed. The sauce seems tomato based but watery, so a qrd on it would be appreciated. Just a diced tomato cooked down with some broth? Or something else? Any specific flavorings you add?

>>76469746 (OP)
>general about losing weight becomes incel tranny turf war shitflinging fest
genuinely impressive how embarrassing you people are

>>76471624
I notice you ignored my response as someone who has done the whole “causal bulimia” thing >>76471212

You’re playing with fire m8

>>76471624
Yeah, but diet soda is acidic and bad for your teeth and can promote kidney stones so it's best to limit consumption.

Alright boys newfag to /fit/ here I’m 5’9 and weigh 220 lbs. I’ve been trying to lift some regularly, I have two 20 lb dumbells and 3 days a week I do 20 overhead press, 20 bicep curls, 20 bent over rows and 20 calf raises. I’m trying to either walk or do 150 jumping jacks everyday, and everyday I don’t lift like today I’m doing 30 pushups, 30 crunches, 1 minute of lower plank and 20 squats. Today I have eaten 2 fried eggs with a teaspoon of butter and 2 pieces of toast and a banana. Tonight I will eat 2 slow cooked chicken tenderloins, rice and oven roasted broccoli. Generally I want to eat either 2 fried eggs and toast, or oatmeal with a little honey blueberries and a little whole milk for breakfast, and then pan roasted salmon with oven baked broccoli or brussels, or a steak with the same sides, or like I said slow roasted chicken though I might swap to a stir fry. I’m using non virgin olive oil for my cooking. On top of that I have two cups of coffee with a tsp of sugar and a splash of whole milk every morning which has been a habit for years. Am I on the right track or am I retarded?

>>76471730
To add when I say breakfast I actually mean eating at 11 am then waiting until 7 pm to eat dinner, and I made the rice last night but generally I’m trying to mainly just eat meat and veggies for dinner.

>>76471169
You don't know what bulimia is? Do you have to experience cancer to decide it's not a good thing?
I used to fuck emo girls in hs. I've seen plenty of what daily puking does do a body, teeth breath all of it.

>>76471730
if you are doing all that then you are doing a lot more effort than most. keep at it, pay attention to what is working and what isn't etc. you'll find your routine

>>76471243
he eats 1 dollar steak a day

>>76471663
actual food
>meat
>dairy
and as a treat
>fruit

>>76471792
Is it true that eating off a wooden cutting board speeds up your metabolism by 10%?

>>76471684
You mostly got it, I use jarred marinara sauce, Rao's brand. I thin it out with beef broth and simmer it until it thickens back up. I add collagen peptides to the thinned out sauce. Once it starts to thicken I add the chicken and broccoli which yeah, I airfry in my oven. I use a oil sprayer to mist everything with olive oil so it browns. I start the chicken first, then I add the broccoli stalks, then I cook the florets last as they cook the quickest.

I season with salt, pepper, and red pepper flakes. Sometimes I'll add mushrooms and/or roasted garlic if I have them around.

>>76471528
diet soda is a miracle of the universe, without it I would still be obese

>>76471684
Oh and once everything is in the pan I let it simmer until the sauce reaches my desired thickness. I tend to like the sauce on the thick side.

If your doing mushrooms and/or garlic I cook them before the sauce.

Fatty Contest
Eumenes
93.1kg
193cm

>>76471819
>>76471848
Nice, thanks for the rundown. Making it with a normal homemade marinara shouldn't add much effort so I will probably try that one of these days.

>>76471290
That looks excellent. I love eggplant

>>76471528
If you like caffeine, pepsi zero (formerly pepsi max) is 50mg. Its the best sub energy drink caf drink

>>76471915
Thanks. Wish it wasn't so expensive, but what can you do. Still cheaper than ultra-processed slop, so who am I to complain.

>>76471671
Doesn't it depend on the diet though? Like if you're just doing something random like "omg drink this gut cleanse juice for a month and see insane results", or if you're doing like paleo or keto and putting like a shitton of cheese and bacon on your mouth just because it's "low carb", then I'd agree, but if you're calorie counting, that's pretty much what you have to do in daily life no? I don't intend to weight everything I eat, but at least for a few weeks once I introduce new foods just so I can have a decent idea of what say 200g of beef looks like.
I'll keep it in mind though, thank you for all the advice and the concern. I hope you succeed as well fren! <3

>>76471693
>>76471212
I missed it, too many posts, sowwy.

>Ngmi
:(

>I often did chew and spit and proper vomiting from time to time when I was a healthy weight
Did you track your weight back then? Would you see weight gain even after vomiting, like do you absorb a % of calories or does your body puke everything? Any negative side effects?

How did you gain back all the weight? Did you stop tracking?

>you will only slide deeper into that hole.
I had no intention of making puking a habit, don't worry, I just wanted to do it once if I wanted to have my first cheat day, but if no one here is doing it then there's probably a good reason. I'm a brokie, even when I was fatter I only ate pizza like once every two months so it's fine, I'm not going to suddenly spend hundreds on fast food

I appreciate your suggestions, but the craving isn't bad enough to be worth the hassle right now, like, if I cook worse pizza or if I eat only a single slice, I'll probably only make things worse and crave even more pizza. I'll just ignore it for now, the craving will be gone in a few days anyways. I'll save pizza for when I hit a neat milestone like 100kg, it will be way more enjoyable then. <3

>>76471061
3000 calories??? I made homemade pizza on Friday. It was around 700 cals and 20g of protein (bread flour has a surprising amount of protein)

It fit my macros. I still lost weight.

If youre talking about 3k calories you're not craving pizza, youre craving binge eating.

>>76471660
2 small paragraphs is indeed too much for the average Tiktok zoomer attention span lul

>>76471944
>Doesn't it depend on the diet though?
Probably plays a big factor, but classifying "diet types" into usable groups, making sure the participants follow it correctly without shitty self-reporting AND having a usable sample sizer larger than a handful of people is hard.
I don't recall seeing a study that covers that in any way that's got a big enough n to draw (even heavily hedged) opinions from.
Most studies (like the one I sent) use aggregate health data, and while finding out who lost a certain % of body weight from those datasets is trivial, finding out how they did it is usually either hard or not possible. It's unfortunately one of those areas where scientific methodology hits economic reality and just isn't worth tracking.

>>76471597
Let me guess, you salted the mixture before cooking?

Don't mix salt in with eggs or egg whites. Cook them, then sprinkle salt on top

>>76471974
>>Don't mix salt in with eggs or egg whites.
I always do that and my eggs never liquify

Why are 100% of tranime avatar faggots also mentally ill?

>>76471944
>Did you track your weight
Yes. No gain, general maintenance. Previously I’d lost 100 lbs the proper patient way, got into some stressful personal and work problems and actually started eating like 500 cal/day (mostly cheese actually, sometimes liquor), then thought this would be a great way to eat whatever I want without worrying about consequences- like when I was a fatass but I could stay trim! I gained it all back during Covid (moved home with parents and couldn’t be a fucking bulimic anymore), also became an alcoholic but that’s another story.
>I had no intention of making puking a habit, don't worry,
LOL I remember the first time I had the “epiphany” that I could just puke it out. You won’t stop at a pizza every couple months. You are an addict, that’s clear from the way you’re looking at this situation. Every time you see something that looks “good” you’ll just think why not, I can just puke it up right?

I’m actually trying to urge you not to try this. Everyone in this thread is here because of a bad relationship with food, for whatever reason we have to try harder to eat like normal healthy people do naturally. You will only make your struggle harder than you already have by eating 600 cal/day of broccoli and rice.

>I'll save pizza for when I hit a neat milestone like 100kg
A much healthier way of looking at this, as long as by pizza you don’t mean “an entire xl meat lovers” that you’ll take home and eat in your room in the dark while watching anime/playing vidya. That is NOT normal and you will never be happy and healthy by behaving that way.

if you need to salt your eggs then you're a bitch and didn't add enough butter

butter with eggs seems like a perfectly good way to completely ruin your macros

>>76472025
why waste 50-100 calories on butter when i can use a 0 calorie spray for the same effect?

>>76472037
He's either baiting or a real ketoschizo who thinks eating everything with extra butter is healthier

>>76471660
>>76471991
>>76472025
>>76472037
>>76472044

>>76472047
what the heck even is that

>>76472063
a website for gigachads I guess

>>76472037
>0 calorie spray
which one do ya use

>>76472037
your ancestors cooked with butter by the pound and they weren't fat or dying of heart attacks
assuming you're white, anyways
>muh calories

For the first time in over a year I'm getting enough protein and I feel like you're literally plugging my muscles with a power cord to the socket. I feel energized after my meals. I wonder if this feeling is cuz I've been lacking for so long or something I'd feel always eating like this but it feels great.

>>76472096
this one
>>76472109
well my ancestors werent sedentary and sitting in their room 24/7
and yes i am white, obviously.

>>76472138
I use this spray (Costco ftw) on an nonstick pan and also don’t count the calories, like I don’t count the calories from plain vegetables or the couple tbsp of milk I put in my coffee. I just knock 100 off my daily goal to account for these negligible things.

>>76470765
I have the same problem. I spam (overhand grip) pull-ups and really try to focus on squeezing my back but don’t get much feedback.

Started doing single arm rows, again really trying to squeeze my lat, finally started to feel a lil twitch

>>76469746 (OP)
I don't want a gf who loves me for what I am because I am current a fat weak piece of shit. I want a gf who loves me for what I can and will be

>>76472257
love is about whats on the inside, not the outside. if she wouldnt date u when youre fat, she's not worthy of your love when youre fit

every time niggas is snackin on hershey's dey ancient brain b thinkin dam this nigga came across five beehives today

>>76472266
losing weight has made me less of a lazy baka

>>76472297
i laughed

how do I get to 10% bf
I haven't made any progress in 2 weeks

>>76472355
negative fork curls until failure

>>76472266
whats on the inside of my organs is fat
if she would date me while fat she wouldnt like me when fit

feels like whenever im dieting is when free food decides to pop up everyday, that i have to say no to

give me ONE good reason not to walk down to the local 7/11 and gorge on snacks RIGHT NOW

>weight some ribs
>crono said it'd be around 800 calories
>strip the meat away from the bones and weight
>its goes down to 200 calories
yippie

>>76472497
>>76472514
okay I'm sorry I'll be good

lesson
fucking
learned
do not break a 40 hour fast with spicy fried chicken
I've shit my guts out 3 times in the last 2 hours, my asshole is on fire

These last 10lbs are tough. Been managing my hunger with:
>eat a tiny 200kcal bowl of food
>drink a large glass of water
>wait 20 minutes
>see if I'm still hungry
>repeat
Weight loss has slowed down, but I think this is sustainable

>>76472511
Yeah ribs are a tough one. Is that what you're supposed to do?

If I'm at maintenance/very very slim deficit right now lifting 3x a week would adding a 1h walk 5x a week put me in a deficit and make me lose weight

>>76472948
I'm doing the same thing but an hour and half walk up steep hills 7 days a week, eating officially at a 1000 cal deficit (under 1700 no matter how much I exercise) and I've lost 10lbs since the 17th when I started counting and walking. I started lifting two weeks ago.
If your priority is to lose weight you should go for as much of a deficit as you can handle

>>76472961
i've been lifting for around 10 weeks at this point so the walking would be the new thing
my area is also very hilly, but unfortunately i am not counting calories, just making inferences based on weighing myself every day

>>76472948
Yeah walking burns calories like any other exercise, it's an especially good option because it's easy and doesn't really spike hunger, just try not to let your NEAT fall in response.

>>76472965
If you've got the time, I highly reccomend walking, especially if you have hills. It's a good way to burn through audio books too.
>not counting calories
unfortunately that's pretty much the main thing. If you could only choose one, lift, walk or count, counting is the one.

>>76472982
>>not counting calories
>unfortunately that's pretty much the main thing
i'm not extremely fat, only skinnyfat, so i hope that after shedding a few dozen pounds i need not care anymore

>>76472965
>unfortunately i am not counting calories, just making inferences based on weighing myself every day
That is going to make missing your deficit more likely, an hour of walking can be wiped out with a light snack which you might not really notice. If it works for you it works, but counting would eliminate this concern.

I love refeeding days

>>76473084
How are your poops after eating like that? Zero fiber all protein is rough.

>>76473141
you don't need fiber
I shit once a day and don't have any issues. Fasting will fuck up your shits though but it goes back to normal within 2 days.

39yo
179cm
aprox 78kg
down from aprox 93kg in aprox September last year, through kilojoule reduction diet of aprox 7,500kj (with a focus on protein but not the other macros), running at least twice a week, and low weight/high rep weights once or twice a week.
I am now essentially at a "healthy" weight, but as you can see it looks shit with a high bf%.
Using the bodyfat calculator US Navy Method my waist at the naval is aprox 97.2cm, neck is 38cm, and with height and weight that gives me 24.9% bf - 19.4kg.
I asked on /fit/ back in April (aprox 82kg at that time) about this and the recommendation was to move to high weight/low rep + increase the number of days of the week but before I could do that I developed tendonitis in my right arm.
(Trying to avoid injury was one of the reasons I had been doing low weight/high rep so much for that.)
So until my arm is better is there anything else I can do about the bf%?

Damn I wish I started a month sooner.
Lowest I've ever weighted since I was a teenager and around 15% now.

>>76473157
>So until my arm is better is there anything else I can do about the bf%?
Yes, eat even less.

>that unpleasant feeling in throat
What the fuck is that? Thyroid acting up? This shit makes me want to "scratch" that with food.

>>76473178
wont that just lead to even more skinny fat, and how does a 179cm man go below 7,500kj that is 1800cal

I'm doing 1000 calories a day fuck it

>>76473239
who hurt u?

I've booked an appointment with my doctor and I'm gonna try and get a GLP1 prescription, am I making a mistake /fat/bros?

Fatty Contest
Name: Dzonathan Gavert
Weight: 112.5 kg

Overall progress:
https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

Motivational Song of the Day:
https://youtu.be/XO2F7Oqr4wk?si=ISzmbOen-KOtuuxd

>>76473343
TYPO FUCK!

I just ate a bag of shitty cheap ass chips and I cannot comprehend why

If I wanted to binge I could have eaten literally anything else and it would have tasted better, been more satisfying, and would have been healthier.

Instead I ate 1000 calories of salt and carbs and I dont know why

>>76473351
It's okay bro
I've done the same alot of times
You can be totally smashing your diet and just all of a sudden you can have a total relapse at any moment, just completely lose control of your goals and resolve

>>76473320
You're either on the drug for life or you figure out how to keep the weight off without it, and if it's the latter, why bother getting the drug in the first place? Just do that now

>>76473212
Check out my spreadsheet. That's how.

>>76473382
And where is your spreadsheet?

>>76473358
It's been an entire bad week. I was doing so good now the progress is slipping away.

I had a cheat day and also stayed up late and that i think was the big issue. Not only did the cheat day let old habits and temptations slip in, but staying up all night and fucking up my sleeping pattern and created the perfect storm . Now I'm staying up late with nothing to do and the cravings are back. This specific combination is the problem. If i was in bed right now i wouldn't have eaten even of i was craving

Fatty Contest
Eumenes
92.9kg
193cm

>>76473363
I've been on and off the wagon for probably 5+ years, at this point I believe I'm a certified food addict, I feel like a junkie. I'm hoping the drugs will help me get to a towards my goal weight, and give me base level where I can reset my habits.

>>76473405
>I'm hoping the drugs will help me get to a towards my goal weight
It will
>and give me base level where I can reset my habits.
It may be a useful crutch but you'll have to cope without it eventually if you want to stop taking it
Good luck anon :)

>>76473212
No it would just lead to skinny.
>that is 1800cal
I'm 178 going on sub 1000cal, lifting 5 times a week.
Wouldn't recommend but it's doable.

>>76473343
how much are you down? 9kg in a month?

9 Kilos to go
WAGMI

>>76473239
Based, let' starve together.
Just remember to keep you proteins high.
That means basically eating lean fish, chicken or egg white all the fucking time but plenty of ways to cook those at least.

>>76473390
>https://tinylink.net/1Jdoy

I am sure some of you had to deal with sleep problems in your path, how did you dealt with it?

in my case even if I sleep 8 hours I am still tired and thus while I picked up exercising again I can't do it consistently, I may go to bed at around 11/12 PM wake up at 7/8 AM but then I end up feeling groggy for 3 even 4 hours, wasting away the morning.

I already tried Melatonin. I kinda get the feeling that I am more awake if I do things outside my room though.

>>76473442
10.1 to be exact.

>>76473458
Extreme doses of caffeine in the morning

>>76473458
good long sleep is good
>body recovers
>body produces testosterone

>>76473462
I don't know but why Caffeine doesn't work as much as it used to, I don't like coffee but used it when needed, never took more than 1 every 2 weeks and went months without, I rarely drink Coke too, it used to be that a cup of coffee would let me get through from night to morning.
>>76473484
8 hours should be enough and I still feel groggy, not like I have an alarm either.

>>76470765
>Maybe my muscles are so pathetically small and weak I can't feel them
that is part of it, especially when you start out
>>76472225

what helps out is looking at the anatomy of the muscle and visualizing it working during your exercises

>>76473490
Dorian Yates would aim for 10 hours of sleep

>>76473200
You might have some excess mucus there or you're slightly dehydrated.

>Already cooked a meal yesterday i split in two for tonight
>1150 calories waiting for me in that one meal
>I just have to make it to tonight on less than 900 calories

Is unflavored creatine monohydrate supposed to be really bitter? It's downright disgusting.

>>76473753
It should taste basically like nothing.

>>76473757
Yeah no mine's got a really bitter medicine-y taste. And I've got a whole 500g bag of it...

>>76473458
>Develop sleep apnea cuz fat but i cant afford to shell put for a machine
>So zombified Im the mornings that I basically sleep walk and turn alarm off without knowing/remembering it happen so waking up extra early is nigh impossible
>also have heart problem, probably from the sleep apnea, that acts up when I dont sleep, so I cant just pull an all nighter to fix my sleeping habits like I used to when I was young
>having a fucked up sleep schedule always drives me to eat at night and fuck up my diet
>fixing sleep schedule feels impossible

ÀAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

I lost 80 kgs on keto over the course of 16 months and since January this year have regained nearly 70 kgs back. I am not kidding this is serious. I went through some tough time in January and dieting had given me a terrible sense of anhedonia where I couldn't find joy in anything and was quickly becoming severly depressed and then I went back to my old habits and found it almost impossible to stop all the eating and drinking I did until 8 months later (now). Can I please get some advice for when I lose it again on how NOT to regain it. I heard people on low-fat and low calorie restriction diets keep it off the most. All replies welcome.

>>76473808
>dieting had given me a terrible sense of anhedonia where I couldn't find joy in anything and was quickly becoming severly depressed
Therapy I guess.

are cico denyers the flat earthers of biology

Got fat again. Went from 95 to 109 kgs in about a year. queue sysyphus boulder pic
I'm trying to get back on track again, what are some no-carb snacks to eat to mantain ketosis? Nutritionist told me green veggies are alright to eat during meals but i think he told me that i should try not to eat at all apart from set meals during the day. Thing is, i stress eat a lot and 2025 has been going downhill so far mentally wise so i need to have something in my hands to eat otherwise i'd just burn through the things i have in my fridge for lunch and dinner.
I was thinking celery but if you got any other tips they'd be appreciated

>>76473808
there is none dude, it never stops. just never eat that shit again
either this or stomach reduction surgery

>>76473808
Isn't is always side that most people that do "fad" diets that are not going to be the same "lifestyle" when they start maintenance/normal eating the hold habits come back, because you didn't actually learn healthy habits. So when stressors come like they do with everyone you fall back to butterball lifestyle to cope and bam now you round again.

>>76473839
That depends, on a macro scale CICO is unimpeachable, but if you delve into the minutia of how the body actually works on a chemical level it gets really complicated and hormones play a much larger role than you might think. So that's where this "CICO is a lie" stuff comes from because it kinda is, CICO is an over-simplification of a much more complex system, but ultimately it still works 99.9% of the time.

>>76473858
I've heard people say that if you're insulin is high you can't lose weight, how does that even make sense with the CICO idea?
Where does your body pull energy from then?

>>76473857
Yeah it was really dumb. I basically only did keto about halfway through since I'm 28 and I have been a morbid obese fatty my whole life I got such a high losing the weight and basically wanted to speedrun getting skinny and told myself I'll develop the healthy eating style once I'm at my goal weight. Then when I reached it all of my motivation and desire went out the window and (what was scary) was my entire body/mind WANTED to go back and even lied to me and tricked me.

>>76473879
>I've heard people say that if you're insulin is high you can't lose weight
High insulin makes you more hungry. If you just follow the numbers instead of pigging out all the time you'll lose weight just like everyone else

Made a new thread
>>76473903
>>76473903
>>76473903
>>76473903

So apparently cinnamon powder is a natural thermogenic and I've been doing atleast a tablespoon of it every morning on my oatmeal and I've been my leanest in years, I didn't know about this since recently and was doing it just for flavor but I've shed a lot of fat the past month, I really wonder if this had any impact at all.

>>76473879
>I've heard people say that if you're insulin is high you can't lose weight

Your insulin spikes during feedings. If you eat a lot (of calories), your insulin spikes. If you eat moderately, you insulin spikes moderately. Insulin is literally correlated to what you eat.

How does that not align with CICO?

>>76472926
yeah because i just weight with grams. chrono considers any weight you put in as the edible substance. thats why I always chop up apples, peel veggies and remove meat from the bone before weighting in

>>76473806
>stop midnight grazing/over eating
>lose weight
>sleep apnea solved
>sleep improves

>>76473808
Keto claims another one, turns out that swearing off carbs for life is actually not a sustainable lifestyle for the vast majority of people.
Remember this failure, let it be a lesson to you and give you strength and perspective for next time. Not getting fat is always going to take some restraint, even for someone who has never been fat, but it's a lot easier if you actually fix your relationship with food. You will inevitably suffer more failures, but they don't have to snowball into total relapse, just take it day by day.