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>>96336617

Thread question:
What do you like about nu40k?

>TQ
I like everything about it. The lore, setting, models have been better as ever.

TQ
I like the splitting of the imperium in half. We almost have a chaos wastes but In 40k and that means lots of storytelling potential for that side of the imperium as the overflowing warp energies means a lot of get out of writers jail free cards.

How would you set up a campaign for your local club?

>>96340707
Like this:
https%3A%2F%2Fac2110-b43h.neocities.org%2F%3Fvolume%3D100

>>96340668 (OP)
>TQ
I think primaris are cool, the recent marine models have looked great barring the Blood Angel update. That is a disgrace, otherwise it's good.
Don't like stuff like Vashtorr however, he's lame and GW's insistance on shilling him just makes him lamer and makes him less interesting.
Especially having Vash crash into Pariah Nexus was a dumb move, the conflict was cool because it was mainly Imperium vs Necrons with some minor stuff like eldar on the sidelines, and that made it cool and interesting. Put coming in, literally punching through reality and forcing Vashtorr in has just made the entire conflict less interesting because I know it will just devolve into regular Imperium vs Chaos wank.

>>96340707
>>96340718
Fuck
https://ac2110-b43h.neocities.org/?volume=100
There we go

>>96340718
>>96340725
Thanks for the dolphin porn.

>>96340746
It's not even a download link, man.

>>96340668 (OP)
>TQ
I like the new models (except for the inquisitors)

When is dg getting nerfed so people stop giving me the side eye for playing them?

>>96340707
Setup a map. Put on special zones or features that provide bonuses to the campaign or in battles. Set a points limit reserve for armies. As units die on the field deduct from points reserve. Set conditions for the varios factions. Imperials need to secure the mausoleum world. Chaos needs to pilfer the bones of some ancient saint and perform a blasphemous ceremony to open a portal to the warp. Eldar are here to be inscrutable faggots and only win if everyone else loses. Etc, etc. Add in some neat scenarios like a convoy ambush, deep strike assault on a fortress, a cityfight. Maybe some kind of underground facility tunnel fight a la space hulk set ups. Spread around neat relics for tha factions to find. Sick ass wargear. The world is your oyster. You can pilfer older editios, campaign books and stuff like the city fight expansion for unique scenarios.

>>96340668 (OP)
>What do you like about nu40k?
Unironically I struggle to think about anything that wasn't better before except the technical quality of the models.

>>96340765
You will never not get the side eye.

>>96340668 (OP)
I read Assassinorum: Kingmaker recently and now crave more knight books.

What books in the black library cover or prominently feature Imperial Knights?

I don't even play and I want to brew up a knight house lineage livery and a paint scheme

Since GW did that Arks of Omen event or whatever when they were closing out 9th edition, you think GW is gonna do that again in 10th?
When did GW start making stuff about the Arks of Omen and the Boarding actions gamemode?
Might be a good reference to see when they might start do something like it again seeing that GW is jumping editions every 3 years now and 10th edition started in 2023 summer, meaning next edition hop is next summer.

>>96340787
Sorry whats the question?

>>96340797
Its "Grok find me more by this artist".

its amazing how nurgle just apes tzeentchs potential

>>96340784
HH allowed?
Check "The Devine Adratrice", its a short story but pretty much self contained. It is then continued in the Novel "Vengeful Spirit", but that novel is about more things than the Knight House of "Devine". But they appear there again.

Also HH: Book 9 "Mechanicum" has knight pilots on mars as some of the main characters.

What is your dream "this would take far too much time, money, and space" project? Mine would be a functional 40k/Necromunda themed O-Scale train layout that doubles as a Necromunda and Kill Team board in certain places. Apartment living just doesn't allow for it unfortunately.

>>96340784
Master of Mankind has a knight house in it. Its only a tiny part of the book though.

>>96340797
We understand, Guilliman.

>>96340784
The knight codices will probably have more of what you want. 8th, 9th, and 10th edition have knight codexes.

>>96340826
>Mine would be a functional 40k/Necromunda themed O-Scale train layout that doubles as a Necromunda and Kill Team board in certain places.
I'm not sure what you are getting at. But my dream is now a 28mm train big enough to fight through. That functions on a train board and is moving. I will not be stopping the train for players to measure or move their minis.

>>96340826
Full chapter of space marines of my own chapter.
Also I would throw in a thunder hawk and some baneblades into it.

>>96340806
More toughness tends to be better than an invul save when you already have a 3+ armor save

>>96340826
Opening my own gaming club and running club crusades that intertwine with 40krpg campaigns and killteam games.

>>96340844
No I mean like creative potential

Idea for a grot-themed army
>Buy various human-sized minis
>Convert/Paint them to resemble Diggas.
>Attach Zodgrod Wortsnagga
>Renamed to Ha-Reyit Toobmun.
>Ha-Reyit Toobmun saves all the Diggas by getting them to the Space North.
>That's why they're not in lore anymore.
>Because Ha-Reyit Toobmun is Digga lover.

>>96340784
Kingsblade and Knightsblade

>>96340861
>andy clark
Oughie

>>96340853
All things return to crab

>>96340853
Problem is just that GW is both lazy and retarded.
Also the big thing is that Tzeentch's "main army" is the Tsons, who are all either sorcerers or bunch of dust inside a tin can.
Hard to do lot of stuff with that when you need to keep to the design ethos of Tsons.
Though you'd think tzeentch army would have more chaos spawns and the like, since tzeentch is the god of mutation and change.

>>96340869
Pic related was good, dunno

>>96340784
This one has some.

>>96340891
Is that the slut that tried to charge Valdor with mass murder?

>>96340834
Assuming those in the "pre 10th" in the op?

>>96340891
I'll look for it

>>96340861
Checking for them on the /t/ thread

>>96340823
>HH allowed?
Didn't know that was a criteria.
I'll look for it.

>>96340891
That book was shit, and being written by Nick Kyme didn't help

Pic related is the best of the Dawn of Fire series. A legit story full of dread that can be read as a standalone book without caring about the rest

>>96340920
All books are shit. Reading is for nerds.

>>96340920
Is that guy modeled off Eddie murphy?

>>96340907
No, that was in a pre HH book abouit the end of the Unification wars. Remember that Valdor is missing in 40k

>>96340939
Yes, but the character is actually a deadly serious man. Go figure

>>96340940
>missing

I'm pretty sure he is in the latest Eisenhorn/Bequin book :^)

>Still no Imperial Knights Codex next week
Where the hell is it, James?

>>96340987
He's mentioned in a book found by the main characters.
But this is Dan Abnett we're taking about. There's only one king in YELLOW in this setting, and it's not Jagathai Khan

>>96340668 (OP)
>TQ
I like the new Deathwing Terminators, even if I'm not a huge Dark Angels fan. I wish that Blood Angels got such nice models but I'm holding out hope for Assault Terminators

>>96340668 (OP)
>What do you like about nu40k?
Aside from that one inquisitor, the numodels tend to be very good.

>>96340996
Sorry, our printers back in China started to burn and the entire production facility caught fire from that.
We are trying to find a replacement site and a new work force of indentured peasant children from the close by villages but the out look isn't so good.
The delay might last around 10 weeks, maybe even 14 if things go wrong.

I hope you, our good customers, understand.

>>96340668 (OP)
>What do you like about nu40k?
New GSC, Sisters and Kroot ranges are great. The models are better than ever, even if there are a few stinkers like bald baby inquisitor or sadguinor

>>96341044
Is there a reason they rely on these assassins and not, say, a ratling sniper? Like, if you need a guy dead just tell your ratling that he gets a Subway giftcard and a night with any Sister of Battle he chooses for sniping.

>>96341044
You forgor the poison assassin.

>>96340826
I want to make this guy, it'd be fun.

>>96341051
Ratlings are abhumans and can't be trusted with sensitive target removal operations.

>>96340987
>pariah 2012
>penitent 2021
>Pandaemonium 2030 or some shit

>>96341044
Fukkin lost it on the Vindicare.

>>96341058
Holy shit I know this game runs on skulls and chainsaws but calm it down there Skeletor.

>>96341061
I think genetically bred super-snipers are possibly the greatest sensitive target removal operators.

>>96340826
Making an ocean themed display table with big waves. I don't even want to think about how much the resin would cost.

>>96340668 (OP)
Imperial agents expansion is coming!! I can feel it!!
>TQ
Kill team
>>96340826
Aztec/mayan themed necrons that I have been holding onto as an idea for a couple months now. I want to mix and match 40k necron bits with AoS seraphon weaponry and their big cool fucking platforms for leaders and commanders. Aside from lots of wooden bits for facial ornaments and a fuck load of various hyper colorful citadel paints based on aztec attire, like jaguar warrior deathmarks and constant body paint over warriors
Their fluff is that they're a bunch of archeologists and collectors who went mad and start believing their species failed a great test by the old ones to achieve immortality after taking the short route presented by the C'tan, however the old ones scattered behind a plan B for their kind to achieve fleshly immortality and control over the warp all over again, it just might be scattered. Now that they have grown aware of the error of their ways after the great sleep they scour around the edges of the galaxy for any trace whatsoever of the old ones and their technology, enslaving slann and the like to their will. They believe that to reverse the flesh change they must sacrifice as much flesh as the amount their species gave away during biotransference in big elaborate cerimonies, some species like humans and tyranids have less "soul value" though. They worship a great machine left behind by the old ones by the name of Quetzolomiatli who guides them upon their grandiose great plan B to bring their kind together. Yes it is a shard of the void dragon.
Im only fielding Imotekh recolored as /mydude/ and Trazyn(he likes them) as hero guys interchangeably for lore reasons
This project would take too fucking long and im just fresh out of university trying to find a place in the job market so I don't quite got the free time as of now sadly, maybe during winter I will get the ball rolling

>$170 for a Daemon Primarch
>Static model that's about 7-8" tall
>Little customization other than "He's holding this weapon" or "He has this face"
>Like 3-4 sprues depending on the model plus a round base

>$160-200 for pic related depending on where you're looking
>Fully articulated inner frame, finished model stands at roughly 9-10 inches tall
>60+ runners, LEDs in the chest and shoulder binders, plus a display base with a storage box built in to store effect parts
>Comes with a decal sheet too while we're at it

How does GW continuously get away with highway robbery?

Anyone know some good ideas for doing painted bases? I just can't be bothered with fucking sand or texture paints.

>>96341051
>a night with any Sister of Battle he chooses
Don't fetishize the gun nuns that's coomer shit

>>96341078
There fucking mutants and cowards. They are lucky to not have been purged.

>>96341085
Because you cant play a wargame with that model. Theres no social aspect.

>>96341092
They're literally just short and have good eyesight, it's the most benign mutation I can imagine. If anything ratlings seem exclusively beneficial.

>>96341091
Bolter bitches only exist to BE coomer shit. It is their purpose.

>>96341089
It takes little to no effort to base your guys just suck it up and do it.

>>96341099
Mutants is mutants. They stand a cuntshair away from damnation. Only the Emperor knows in his omnipotence why such foul creatures were not destroyed.

>>96340787
Who the fuck would pay for this fucker's patreon the artstyle alone is enough to make my dick go sour it's disgusting to look at. Only people with an actual understanding of anatomy like Mossa should draw porn
LEARN 2 DRAW

>>96341115
Abhumans aren't mutants.
They are humans.

>>96341106
>little to no effort
Every time I do it my guys look like theyre sinking into the ground. Im trying to avoid that this time.

>>96341120
>Who the fuck would pay for this fucker's patreon the artstyle alone is enough to make my dick go sour it's disgusting to look at.
But enough about Mossa.

>>96341085
Daemon primarchs are characters with a lot of appeal, strong units in the game, and are only produced by one company in a first world country.

Mecha kits are a dime a dozen, made by cheap labor, and barely anyone cares about the lore behind them. You calso can't play with them. A better comparison would have been those old school japanese resin kits.

>>96341123
Those look fine.

>>96341115
>why such foul creatures were not destroyed.
They have amazing eyesight which helps when shoot good. In a hyper-militarized society that's the sort of thing you actively reward.

Personally, Ratlings and Orgryn should be allowed, they serve the Emperor. Longshanks, bat-fuckers, felinids, beatmen, etc...they just need a good incineration. Also, glass Necromunda I don't even think they're special, they have a decent pharma industry, but that could be moved to any other hiveworld.

>>96341123
Looks fine to me

>>96341085
People like the daemon and not the robot.

>>96341078
They're not genetically bred to be anything. They just happen to be useful to the Guard as scouts (they're small and hide themselves easily) and they're given their ratling sniper rifles because they may as well do something useful if they can be sneaky on a battlefield.
But they aren't trustworthy and are just as likely to wander off and start a fire as they are to take out the important target they were ordered to hit literally 10 minutes ago.
The Vindicare IS bred and trained to be the best; to get in on its own from orbit into a hostile environment and take out its target from miles away and slip out unseen.

I need to base and redpill my guys but it's so fucking boring. Genuinely the worst part of the hobby for me.

>>96341085
>>96341133
Most people also only buy one demon primarch. So you really wanna squeeze the economic worth out of it.

>>96341149
>But they aren't trustworthy
Neither are regular guardsmen, plenty of black marketeering and other suspicious shit just to get scrounge up a few more thrones/credits to get an extra ration bar.

>>96341098
The game is by far the worst part of the hobby. I don't know where you clowns ever got the idea it was anything but an afterthought for what to do with your hobby collection. Oh, wait, you got sold by corporate that you need to buy the same, identical model at least three times to be "competitive" in a game that ends over backwards to have Space Marine kiddies play on easy mode because they make up 80% of purchases.

>>96341153
I just don't base my models. People can seeth about it, but I don't wanna risk getting my models' feet dirty just to prove something to randos.

>>96341085
God, NuGundams are such overdesigned dogshit.

>>96341153
How do you redpill you models? Do just go whole hog off the bat or start gently. I like to start by showing them how the inefficiencies in the admistratum lead to incalculable harm.

>>96341164
Well then it's a good thing the Vindicare isn't a regular Guardsman.

>>96341169
>a game that ends over backwards to have Space Marine kiddies play on easy mode
way to out yourself as a nogames

>>96341169
Troll detected

>>96341178
Vindicare aren't trust worthy either.
They are assassins, no assassin is trust worthy.

>>96341169
Trvke

What are the best trophies for World Eaters? Ultramarines? Black Templars? Sisters of Battle? Mix of Ultramarines and Cadians?

>>96341194
The psycho indoctrination says otherwise.

>>96341085
>Fully articulated
Joints are horrible, even in technological inspired models, imagine that shit with biological inspired models.

>>96341199
ultramarines and space wolves

For me it's rogue traders. Imagine; being practically immune from the law, having the sort of money that makes you sovereign, all the cousins you can bang, and all you have to do is hire peasants to do the token tasks the Inquisition throws your way to test your loyalty. It's got to be the most idyllic life in the entire grim darkness of the far future.

>>96341085
I'd rather take a good old fashioned zaku over that thing

>>96341199
Only marines, daemons, and maybe eldar. Sisters and guard are too far beneath a marine to be worthy as trophies. Thats like bragging about how many toddlers you can beat the shit out of.

>>96341169
>in a game that ends over backwards to have Space Marine kiddies play on easy mode
You do realize that most marines armies suck dick ruleswise, right?
Very few are actually balanced and even fewer are OP. Even then, the most OP one is only like 1 detachment within the codex.

>>96341199
Other world eaters

>>96341098
>Because you cant play a wargame with that model
There are people that play wargames with Gunpla, not to mention the Gundam TTG coming out next year
>>96341133
>Daemon primarchs are characters with a lot of appeal
And Gundam characters aren't?
>strong units in the game,
Subjective, just look at Angron going from an autoinclude pre-codex to a "maybe" option post-codex
>and are only produced by one company in a first world country.
So we're pretending chinamen and 3D printers don't exist huh
>Mecha kits are a dime a dozen, made by cheap labor
Which keeps the prices down for you (This is a good thing)
>barely anyone cares about the lore behind them.
Factfully false
>You also can't play with them.
See above
>>96341160
If that were the case then why does a Land Raider cost half as much as a Primarch despite having just as much (If not more) plastic per model?
>>96341172
It normally looks like this, chinese people go overboard with the overdetailing with their models.

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96341202
If you need to psycho indoctornate someone to be loyal, then they aren't really trust worthy to begin with.

>>96341229
Still looks like retarded shit that can't move.

>>96341210
>all the cousins you can bang

>>96341229
It's just not that cool I dont know what else to tell you man

>>96341234
Thank you for conceding with grace.

>>96341234
That's why you don't trust them until you fuck up their mind

>>96341250
I accept your concession.

>>96341229
>If that were the case then why does a Land Raider cost half as much as a Primarch despite having just as much (If not more) plastic per model?
I don't know what the two have to do with each other, but to answer you the Land Raider is something you could easily own multiple of. You can only have a single demon primarch in your army, so 90% of players will only ever buy one, with only the smallest percentage of players buying more for whatever they want it for. Meanwhile, a player could easily buy five Land Raiders if they're high-scale enough. There's also much less demand, there are way more people playing some sort of Imperium army than they are people playing, say, the World Eaters in particular.

Do the black ships take blanks as well as psykers?

A couple of weeks ago I asked for book recommendations and some anons suggested the Ciaphas Cain series.
I purchased the first omnibus and suprisingly enjoyed it, but now that I've completed it, it turns out the second omnibus goes for 100€ to 500€+.
What the fuck?
Where can I find one at a decent price in Europe (english version)?? I'm fine with used books.

>>96341262
No thats what the white ships are for

my GF is always impressed by the detail of the faces I paint and jokingly said I should do her make up. So today I did. She explained the product I did the rest. Went surprisingly well. What I noticed is she only looked good if you look stright at her from an angle she looked off ehehe

>>96341210
>>96341244
Everyone in the Imperium bangs their cousins. Logistically, the population being in the trillions with hive worlds having possibly hundreds of billions of people, some people are doing some things with their blood relatives.

>>96341258
I'm glad you see things my way.

>>96341250
>>96341257
Psycho indoctornation doesn't mean dick.
There's assassins who have gone traitor despite it being used.
Asaid Virenus being a prime example.

>>96341207
Oh right I could so Space Wolves as well.

>>96341221
I mentioned Sisters as I remember in that on book someone recommended here Kharn and his boys attacked a Sister of Battle world and he got to kill Saint Celestine there who appeared to fight Kharn (and she died).

>>96341227
This is an interesting choice. Thanks.

>>96341266
Most BL books are actually out of print and can only be found second hand.
Get the epubs

Do codexes still have name generators for /your dudes/?

>>96340787
I'm fairly sure Idiot Of The East is one of the chief contributors to the Ynnari being destroyed, and it's even funnier when you notice he doesn't give a fuck about Yvraien beyond having her suck Guilliman's dick.

>>96341298
they do

https://old.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/1mrtpbp/space_marine_codex_name_generators/

>>96341289
>Psycho indoctornation doesn't mean dick.
Bullshit. The muhreens were psycho indoctrinated and they turned out fine.

>>96340668 (OP)
I like big Ghazzy

>>96341312
Then why can I only find Big E fucking slaanesh?

>>96341221
Wrong.
Khorne doesn't care where the blood flows.
Any worthy warrior is fine as a throphy for a berzerker.

>>96340787
Arks of Omen was announced on Warhammer Day 2022 (Oct 8th).
This was also the evnt that announced the least two codexes of the editon (Astra Militarum and World Eaters) and the second kill team of the season (Shadowvaults: Necrons vs Kasrkin).
There is usually a preview show on Warhammer Day.
Warhammer Day 2025 will be on the first Saturday after the first Monday of October (Oct 4th). It is 7 weeks away.

>>96341296
Sorry anon, I will only read paper books.

>>96341312
Hardly. Idiot of the East is pretty new.
Yvraine sucking G-man's dick and art about it has been around since like 2017, it's old memes at this point.

>>96341334
>worthy warrior
Looks like I'm right again.

>>96341180
>>96341222
>killier than most armies
>tankier than most armies
>only nominally more expensive per wound
>has the most variety
>rerolls, +1s, and special rules galore
>never nerfed first when cancerous rules present themselves
Your win rates in the competitive scene are skewed by the volume of retards that rock up with whatever intro box they bought and spray-painted. It's laughable that you clowns can't seem to leverage your favorable rules to think past tabling opponents.

>>96341313
Sick. Did the cult legions get that too or nah? Here's one of my doods as thanks

>>96341338
Then I'm sorry for you, you'd never find all thse books for a reasonable price

>>96341336
Ok, that makes sense.
So we got probably around 2 ish months to see if GW starts up another "End of Edition" even thing.

>>96341281
Did you atleast edge highlight her face?

>>96341199
>skulls of the worthy
khornate, templar, custodian
>skulls of the hated
tau, tzeentchian, slaaneshi
>skulls that are cool
stealer, ork, robot

So I missed out on the big starter box for 10th because I thought it would be around forever. If I like what I see in either half of the 11th box I should jump on that shit like a pay piggie right?

>>96341240
thats almost all of 40k

>>96341349
>Your win rates in the competitive scene are skewed by the volume of retards
>this copium again
New players don't go into tournaments to play to begin with because they are new.
Marines genuinely suck as an army 9/10 times. And whenever there is a time they are OP, it's only 1 chapter or detachment which is exceptionally OP while rest of the factions might as well not exist due to how bad they are.

>>96341089
Brush on white glue and then add a layer or two of sand. Dont be a little bitch it's incredibly easy to do. Then paint it brown, a watery brown to get in all it's crevices. Then 2-3 layers if light drybrushing up from a brown to a beige. This is a entry level skill that will make your basing look great. You'll use this on terrain and tables as well. "Mod Podge" is the common pva glue used here

>>96341368
Half of every edition starter will always be space marines. Take that as you will

>>96341372
>New players don't go into tournaments to play to begin with because they are new.
Are you joking? Theres always a couple of young kids with poorly painted starter armies getting rolled in round one.

>>96341349
You talk like a seething eldarfag marine hater waacfaggot.

>>96341384
I hate to admit it, but I finally WANT some marines. Which is a bit annoying since I sold mine like a decade ago. I got like 20 tacticals and some missile devs kicking around with a chaplain.

>>96341203
>Joints are horrible, even in technological inspired models
At the size of that model you get not only your regular arm/leg joints but movable armor panels, individual piston motions, openable cockpits, and so on. There's no detail wasted on this thing.
>>96341213
Fair enough, I can understand the desire for simplicity in design.
>>96341240
Moves just fine, arms and legs are double jointed to get a full range of motion, the subarms and hatches on the binders fully open, it's got full foot articulation, and so on.
>>96341259
>I don't know what the two have to do with each other
My point is what logistically makes a Daemon Primarch worth twice as much? I understand your point of "GW charging so much for it because people only need to buy one" but realistically Daemon Primarchs should cost just as much as any Land Raider variant if we lived in a world where the amount of plastic in the box actually determined how much something should be.

I mean look at what's happening with that Dawn of War sidegame being sold at B&N/Target, shit's being scalped to hell because they decided to stuff the Honored of the Chapter sprue GW sells on their store for $168 (Again, a single push-fit sprue for $168) in a $50 box. Why go to such lengths to defend GW's business practices?

>>96341388
>bro i saw this 1 child once at a tourney
>this must be the norm bro
For your age, you are about as retarded as a child. Aka very.

>>96341133
Daemon primarchs are all whiny bitches with daddy issues who are overcosted and have busy, ugly models with shitty poses and without coherent themes. I don't even like Gundam but every gunpla kit looks fifty times better than the demon primarchs.
Except Magnus. Magnus looks great.

>>96341380
>brush on
>glue
I really dont want to sacrifice one of my brushes every time i do it anon.

>>96341406
Whats this once stuff? They are there every touney.

>>96341406
>once
Maybe you should go to more tourneys anon. Theyre always there.

>>96341084
Wouldn't they just behead Trazyn on sight for like stealing a couple old ones oven mittens or something

>>96341401
Nobody is defending GW, we're just explaining to you how they get away with it. Offer and demand.

And no, 3dprints or recasts aren't a good replacement for those models. They'd be too fragile if they're not in plastic.

>>96341411
It washes out, don't use your Winsor & Newtons on drybrushing. I bought a bulk bag of makeup brushes and a bag of 20 or so walmart brushes for drybrushing.

Combi flamers should (first of all, have actual rules again, and) inflict mortal wounds as standard against tyranids and genestealers.

>>96341407
>Daemon primarchs are all whiny bitches with daddy issues who are overcosted and have busy, ugly models with shitty poses and without coherent themes. I don't even like Gundam but every gunpla kit looks fifty times better than the demon primarchs.
Why you little bitch I ought to slap your...
>Except Magnus. Magnus looks great.
You know what forget it. You seem like a great dude we should get a beer and talk minis.

>>96341085
>>96341229
I don't follow gundam much but I do prefer the less crazy designs more. This is a bit too much.
Maybe if the "wings" were like 50% smaller while the hip and legs weren't so massive I think this would look better.
Also give this a nexk.

Do the Imperial Guard have a melee infantry unit in the current codex that's not Ogryns? Something with power weapons to proxy these guys in.

>>96341312
>he doesn't give a fuck about Yvraien
Nobody gives a fuck abour Yvraine. You didn't even spell her name right.

>>96341438
No. No luck in Imperial agents either. If Sisters still have Crusader squads you could try that.

>>96341438
No but they can take imperial breachers as allies

>>96341438
>Do the Imperial Guard have a melee infantry unit in the current codex that's not Ogryns?
No.

>>96341361
>tau
Elaborate?

>>96341401
Still looks like utter dogshit and that's barely any range of motion out of the fucking hideous thing.

>>96341401
Nasty

>>96341407
>Daemon primarchs are all whiny bitches with daddy issues
That's a feature, not a bug
>overcosted
all gw minis are overcosted
> busy, ugly models with shitty poses
Subjective. Magnus and Mortarion look great. Angron and Fulgrim are let down by some details.
>without coherent themes
that's on you. They're all on point for their faction
>Gundam
99% are overdesigned shit with no lore appeal, despite the quality of the kits

>>96341438
No, and it makes sense that it doesn't exist.
These SA axe dudes are only in their army list because the designer was a fan of Legends of the Galactic Heroes.
it's better if you proxy SA models as Navy breachers, their actual descendants. Or even Scions.

>>96341438
Don't listen to this guy, >>96341444. What you're looking for is the Subductor Squad. I wanted a footman style unit to go with my Knights and they fit the bill the best. Attach a Ministorum Priest to them for Sustained Hits while you're at it. Only problem is you have to take the Cyber Mastiff, but look at it this way, it's 11 bodies instead of 10.

>>96341372
Holy fucking delusion, Batman. Marine kiddies have the craziest persecution complex.

>We're not OP...w-well not the the rules for my green Space Marines that I play for fun...j-just double Oaths, and 3" deep strikes, and (insert leader+enhancement+elite infantry) combo, and....
Be fucking glad that the competitive community is still relatively small and the actual good players stick to their pet armies instead of meta-chasing.

>>96341354
That really sucks.

Need suggestions, are there any good stories about the Necrons being scary? Not necessarily horror, just something that shows Necrons as a particularly gruesome and horrid to deal with.

>>96341427
If I ever dipped my toes into Chaos it'd be TSons or Red Corsairs.
>>96341461
I meant overcosted in terms of points. At least that's what I hear from chaos players. Angron looks awful IMO, like some weird gorilla. I can believe that a good painter can make Morty come to life but the only one I see locally is a contrast painted one that looks like mixing all the Play-Doh colors together. Fulgrim I don't especially mind; he should look turgid and uncanny and he does. Magnus is a great model though. I'm struggling to put what I'm thinking about into words for my problems with Morty in particular, it's not theming, but it's both that he's busy and there's no focal point on his model that draws you to any cool part of it, and there's no line of action, he looks like he's hanging limply in space.

>>96341481
You're hardly trying.
I can tell you're fishing for (You)s.

>>96341353
>half rimming your base
come on man

Post the best 40K pinup minis you've seen!

You know what must be an idyllic life? Imagine being on a Church World. Pleasure Worlds get destroyed more often than I change my undies, but Church Worlds are fiercely protected, de facto immune to Chaos, and Imperial priests aren't celibate so you could theoretically have a healthy sex life. It's religiously stifling, but so are many IRL countries and communities, and for the level of relative safety and wealth they enjoy I'll take it over the average/mid civilized world.

>>96341530
You first

Whoever recommended me this. THANK YOU. Also, compared to the Jakhals, working on Berzerkers is a pleasure. Fuck the Jakhal mould lines in places no mortal can reach.

>>96341494
FW Imperial Armour's The Fall of Orpheus, and the The Fall of Damnos book are good examples of scary necrons. They even gave Cato Sicarius PTSD, I kiid you not.
Look here:
> https://gofile.io/d/ASPVYX

>>96341530
I think I'm gonna get this model even though I don't play the army. I can't paint for shit though, the painter of this works as a 'eavy metal for GW.

>>96341451
the skull of a tau is very recognisable, and also available in bits
as is recognisable the propensity of the faction to be cowardly and unprepared in melee combat, khorne's ideal field and the tau least ideal phase of the game
regardless of how that's actually more of a meta meme, it makes enough of a basis for you to have a khornate dude showcase or desecrate a tau skull and instantly give the scene an extra layer of meaning or reaction compared to the same scene but with a normal human skull

>>96341499
>hardly trying
Yes, like most Space Marine players coasting on favorable rules sheets. Ffs, just look at Sisters. They're practically outfitted the same, but are just as expensive (sometimes more) despite the toughness difference, having worse versions of the same weapons, worse versions of rules for analogous units, and even worse versions of detachments. Marines players literally bawled their eyes out over miracle dice until they were nerfed while legitimately being unable to activate an SM unit without rerolling something in the attack sequence.

Just about done with this merry band, sans the bases and decals.

>>96341497
>he's busy and there's no focal point on his model that draws you to any cool part of it,
yes, that's an issue with many models that can be fixed with a smarter paint scheme that actually shows the model silouette

>>96341571
Better view at the freehanding I did for them

>>96341543
Necron spider mommy

>>96341538
>but Church Worlds are fiercely protected
True
>de facto immune to Chaos
Lmao, no.
It's been shown time and time again that the Imperial faith is a sham in 40k.
Being too fanatical worshipper of the Emperor WILL get you corrupted by Chaos. It's how Siege of Vraks started due to Xaphan, which is described as a "textbook case", ie. it's something the inquisition have encountered before and numerous times.
It's also why Ordo Hereticus exists, it specifically exists to monitor the ecclesiarchy and the imperial cult for any signs of corruption and heresy.

>>96341551
What were you using before?

>>96341569
Like I said, hardly trying.
I'm not reading your posts because it's just nonsense drivel.

>>96341444
>>96341445
>>96341447
>>96341475
>>96341478
I was considering using SA as Imperial Agents to represent the military force of some Rogue Trader dynasty that kept the SA training and gear since the Heresy (in canon some lord militants of Solar Auxilia received the warrants of trade at the time), but they don't have the unit variety nor any tanks or flyers to use those from SA even as count-as.

>>96341455
>T-there's barely any range of motion!
Well yeah it's a chonky boy with a ton of armor. Still has as much articulation as your average space marine would, and then some.

>>96341599
The GW glue. It's the same but slightly thicker and no brush for better application. I'm really happy with Tamiya because I can get rid of some hard to get mould lines like from chainswords or chains and tubes.

>>96341551
Now that you've had your brain altered with by the sacred toxic fumes of Tamiya Cement, it's time for you to unlock a second level of knowledge.

You ever put something together and, if either by mistake or just poor deisgn, you see some gaps in the mini? This is usually where Green Stuff is wasted, but you may maintain the integrity of your Green Stuff with what's commonly known as "Sprue Goo".

You see, the reason this magnificent elixir fulfills all your modeling and medical needs is that it's a harsh chemical that melts your plastic, before evaporating and allowing your plastic to harden. But if you drop excess plastic, say from the sprues you've been collecting, and close the lid, what you get is a compound of melted plastic that's viscous enough to spread over gaps. This will make your model look complete and structurally sound. I would suggest using a second vial of cement though. Sprue goo isn't as good at actually gluing; it's just meant to give some extra plastic where needed. Unlike green stuff you also can't mold it, so it's not a GS replacement more like GS's friend.

>>96341609
My bigger issue with SA as guard is the lack of special weapons.

>>96341609

You just run them as a Guard army and attach a rouge trader to it.

>>96341610
Is that a model kit?

for around 25 years ive had this dream of owning space marine army, you know those uninteresting and boring clean vanilla dudes nobody likes
ive secretly coveted imperial fists all this time but now i cant decide should i make them nostalgic as i remember or go the cool new 30k way

>>96341634
of course

>>96341603
Nah, you just don't have the attention span to listen to your accessibility program read the post. We all know you Marine fanboys can't read which is why all your rules are just "keep rerolling until you succeed."

>>96341647
Thats fucking bonkers. Do they make games for that stuff?

>>96341621
It's great yeah. Don't forget that Extra Thin Cement and Tamiya's Airbrush Cleaner are the same product so in case you end finishing your bottle, instead of getting a new one just get a much larger airbrush cleaner (250ml vs 40ml) for slightly more to refill it.

>>96341641
IF are going to get a new 40k combat patrol box that you may like

>>96341660
gundam engineering is so precise it makes you wonder what gw are spending their money on when tanks don't fit together without 2mm gaps and the japs are making multi-joint articulation smooth right off the sprue

>>96341623
thats a pretty easy thing to fix with kitbashing

>>96341641
may I suggest watching this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB8Gd3P2fBs

>>96341634
I wouldn't be making the comparisons I have been if it didn't.
>>96341660
There's a bunch of Gundam games, but most range from alright to shit with a few exceptions here and there.

Any suggestions for a single base model that would make an interesting Chosen? Chaos or Imperial because I'm just going to play around with weapons for a Black Crusade campaign.

>>96341671
That's good advice, thanks! I initially got the GW glue because Tamiya was not available in most online stores where I got my models and paints. I had to order in a general model store. I got two bottles so it should last a while. The Berzerkers look so awesome it's a pleasure to work on them.

>>96341610
Why are you comparing chinese articulated toys with scale miniatures for wargames made in the Uk? Why are you not talking about chinese 40k toys? Are you retarded or trolling?

>>96341714
I'm comparing a scale model to a scale model (Yes it's a "Miniature", but it's still at Heroic Scale). Simple as that.

>>96341696
you gundamfags are the mlp bronies of scale modelling, ffs
always intruding in other fandoms like fucking vegans or something to peddle your shit

>>96341678
is anyone even considering the new Space Marine combat patrolls? they are all kinda dogshit

>>96341503
>half rim
Thats a thumb print. I primed my models holding them in my hand.

>>96341696
Oh shit, is most of this just snap-fit/held just by friction and no glue?
Fucking hell.
What kind of black magic are the asians cooking with?

>>96341475
>These SA axe dudes are only in their army list because the designer was a fan of Legends of the Galactic Heroes.
Proofs beyond space guys with axes?

>>96341731
Gundam's scale models are superior.
GW is just practically robbing you.

>>96341732
Not to mention incredibly expensive. Theyre not even close to the deals the Start Collectong boxes were.

>>96341727
No you aren't. That gundam model is goddamed huge toy, and not a proper scale model for a tabletop wargame. You fucking shill

Is there a marine unit with a loadout of power weapon and storm shield/combat shield?

>>96341755
Bladeguard

>>96341755
you must be new here

gw fanboys getting defensive

>>96341762
Any firstborn?

>>96341623
I'm getting them printed with a 3rd party STL that has options for both guard and auxilia armies.

>>96341753
SC were much smaller

>>96341770
Don’t say that word around here. Marine tribalism is that autistic.

>>96341764
Sorry I keep forgetting primaris exist.

>>96341731
All I'm saying is the grass is greener on the other side.
>>96341743
>is most of this just snap-fit/held just by friction and no glue?
Gundam kits haven't required glue since the 80s, though depending on the age of the kit you may want to use glue to weld seams together.
>>96341754
It's 1/100, by definition it's a scale model just like how current GW stuff is 32mm scale.

>>96341770
Firstborn on 40mm bases with power weapons and storm shields

>>96341770
Feel free to model your own (and run them as bladeguard veterans)

What kind of units are we expecting in the 11th edition box? It's basically two Combat patrols plus an extra tank and elite, right?

>>96341780
you must be new here

>>96341770
Only in Horus Heresy. I suggest you go play that.

>>96341750
what?
space troops with axes are NOT a common trope, anon. They're pretty unique

>>96341794
Now that you mention it I think you’re right but there is still a chance that the creator wasn’t a logh fan and it was Al coincidence unless the solar auxilia creator confirms or denies.

>>96341752
>>96341783
Everyone knows that GW minis are overpriced. But they are so because people like them, so they still buy them

Gundam toys do not belong here and your points are retarded. Apples and oranges

>>96341085
>mfw soon will have both a daemon primarch AND that kshatriya

>>96341786
>Feel free to model your own
I am. Spears and hoplons. They will not be primaris.

>>96341789
Marines Combat Patrol is Terminator Captain, Librarian Captain, 5 Terminators, and 5 Infernus. Leviathan had all that plus a Biolgois, Lieutenant in Phobos Armor, 5 Sternguard Vets, another 5 Infernus marines, and a Ballistus Dread. If Combat Patrols are ~500 points worth of models then Launch boxes are ~1000 points.

>>96341793
Nah. I'll do Vanguard Vets.

>>96341632
At that point I'd just use a Guard HQ and say it's Rogue Trader, but still no use for the axe guys sadly, getting us back to the original point.

>>96341811
Occam's razor, anon
SA are pretty much the same void troops as the LotGH dudes. And the anime has been pretty well know in the west since the 90s.

>>96341789
heavy land speeder, assault terminators and some scouts vs some random ork junk

>>96341837

Put one in each guard squad to represent the sarge with power weapon

>>96341837
I think the arbites with shields and mauls can be what the axe guys can proxy as.
>>96341845
Fair enough. I do want confirmation and I did email the guy a long time ago and never got an answer probably because it wasn’t a serious business inquiry.

>>96341641
Those army boxes looked so nice.

Marines are so gay man

>>96341879
>I think the arbites with shields and mauls can be what the axe guys can proxy as
Just a thought hit me. Is it rules legally possible to just field like ten of those guys in a chimera along with a preacher with chain sword to give them an extra melee attack?

No u

>>96341494
>>96341554
Dead Men Walking is a Krieg vs Necrons book but a good chunk of the point of view is from a civilian. It released right during the transition point from oldcrons to nucrons and features elements of both.

>>96341889
>ten of those guys in a chimera
No
>>96341889
>along with a preacher with chain sword to give them an extra melee attack?
Also no

>>96341727
>>96341783
No, they aren't comparable
if you want to compare something actually relevant and applicable, those shitty monopose new gundam miniatures for the wargame they're releasing are what you'd be pointing to
But you're not pointing to those because even from the prototype sprues we can see they're even more monopose and boring than the worst 40k offenders

>>96341904
Proofs? They’re imperial agents in a guard army.

>>96341887
>Marines are so gay man
You're saying this is gay? Man, fuck off.

>>96341753
they're 120 dollars if you're not retarded and don't buy from GW directly, you're getting a 50+% discount on all of them at that price

>>96341887
And? Always have been.

>>96341889
Can you field them as Imperial Agents allied to guard? Then it can be a chimera or rhino. I dont think the priest does +1A isnt it re roll hirs on charge turn or something?

>>96341914
The closest o that price I have seen was 138. Reveal your secrets.

>>96341924
Chimera is only for Inquisitorial Agents, the Arbites plus Priest would go in a Rhino.

>>96341924
>>96341910
>>96341941


Arbites cant even use the imperial agents Chimera (thats for inquistors and lackeys only) and the guard chimera can only carry guard units (only the inquisitor has a special rule that lets him tag along)


The Priest can only join certain IG units. nothing in the IA book lets him (or any other non-IA character) join a IA squad

>>96341941
I'd take a chimera over a rhino anyday, extra 10 points for all that dakka

>>96341954
the Imperial Agents priest can join Arbites.

>>96341968
Again though, they can't use a chimera. Either the chimera is a Imperial Guard one that can only transport their units, or an Inquisition one that can only transport Inquisitors plus their agents.

>>96341831
They no longer exist iirc. Or if they do they are gutted to shit.
But it's your time to waste, not mine.

>>96341979
Alright I’ll make a chimera that looks different from the rest to be an inquisitorial chimera that houses the arbites proxies.

>>96341831
they're getting upgraded into the superior primaris soon enough

>>96341991
Wait I missed the part where it was said that the IA can’t be in chimeras my bad.

>>96341905
I'm comparing what $170 will get you but if you wanna talk Gundam Assemble we can do that too.

I managed to snag the Wing deck for the TCG with the minis included and they were a nice change of pace from 40k minis (Need to get around to painting them though, they've been sitting primed now for a few weeks). The minis range in part count pretty drastically (The Tallgeese here has like 10 parts while one of the Leos only has 3) and there's admittedly no alternate weapon options, but the sculpt itself is pretty nice. Going by the MSRP for the starter decks with and without the plastic minis included they'll probably be charging $20 USD for 3 models, which (again) is still leagues ahead of what GW charges for 3 models.

>>96341085
All these plebians not being able to appreciate and enjoy all forms of big mech.

But yeah GW plastic IS fucking over costed

>>96342002
>I'm comparing what $170 will get you
irrelevant to the discussion

>>96341585
>>96341571
fantastic sir. Lovely.

>>96341641
I painted a ton of IF for 30k and it was a pleasure. Everyone can learn to paint yellow to a tabletop quality. It'll be easier than you think for an entire army.

>>96342002
Wait when did Bandai and it’s gunpla try to get into the miniature industry? I wanna get some now.

We can at least admit that the joy toys for marines suck cock

>>96342028
It's completely relevant when it's one of my main points of argument. Why pay just as much for 1/10th of the plastic?
>>96342041
Doesn't officially launch til next year, but it's coming soon.
>>96342046
Oh definitely. I bought a Khorne Berserker last month during Prime Day for like $20 and it's okay, but I wouldn't buy it at full price.

>>96342002
>is still leagues ahead of what GW charges for 3 models
That depends on the models, you know it, and you really shouldn't be glossing over it just to dunk harder on GWs. Crisis Suits, Aggressors, and a Battle Sister Squad are all inconsistently priced when it comes to model count, customizability, detail, total amount of plastic, and even release date.

>>96342067
>Why pay just as much for 1/10th of the plastic?
looks better
isn't dragged down by a dogshit IP
you can actually play a decent tabletop

>>96342075
>decent tabletop
Lol

Does anyone actually run these guys?


75 points for a utility unit that can debuff a knight or similar shooty centerpiece models seems decent.

>>96342091
better than anything bandai can shit out lmao

>>96342075
>looks better
Subjective
>isn't dragged down by a dogshit IP
This may come as a surprise to you but both Gundam and Warhammer have their good sides and bad sides when it comes to IP management.
>you can actually play a decent tabletop
Have you never had the desire to buy a model from an army you didn't play just to paint it up and have as a display piece?

>>96342006
Anon, please fucking tell me you don't think that thing on the left is even remotely comparable to the model on the right. Jesus fucking christ I've never seen a better advertisement for why GW models can be more expensive than gunpla, holy fucking shit it's night and day. And the LoS isn't even one of GWs better big models. The paintjob is probably doing some heavy lifting, but I don't think a paintjob like what the LoS has is even possible on the robot on the left, it's just way too flat and lacking in detail, you can't get any shading on it.

>>96342092
does anyone own them? they look like poop on a flying stand

>>96342105
I wanna convert some out of heresy assault marines and HH autocannons

>>96342092
they're very sought after for their rules and you can't buy them individually so all resale listings are insanely overpriced

I finally understand why I mildly dislike stormcast and prefer primaris marines. They don’t have any bald dudes.

>>96342104
Nah bigger better, plus you can re-pose it, khorne lord of skulls is hollow on the bottom too. 40k is on the downslide its time to pack it in and accept that there are better IPs out there

>>96342067
>Why pay
Because it's 40k and your offtopic gunpla shit it is not.
Also the amount of plastic is the leasts of the factors on the prices.
You are a really dense idiot.

96342124
trying way too hard

>>96342120
You prefer to see yourself reflected in your hobbies. Understandable.

/m/aggots really incapable of accepting that wargamers don't like their dogshit toy kits

>>96342092
They're kinda really squishy and want to both be moving but also want to be heavy. They also compare really unfavorably to the, uh, incursors? The dudes that apply +1 to hit, because you know what's better than debuffing your opponent's big shooty stuff? Murdering it.

>>96342092
They have two problems: availability and being fucking dumb looking even by 40k standards

>>96342154
>being fucking dumb looking even by 40k standards
This is the greatest of all sins.

>>96342154
>>96342161
Their looks can be improved with beakie helmets for more of a jousting knight feel

>>96342177
Nah, they still look like they should have an involuntary uppydowny rule if they activate in the shooting phase.

>>96342133
You are in a thread for a game where you play with plastic toys, you are not much better than they are.

>>96342177
Those legs being reposed helped a shit ton as well. Thats almost acceptable.

All this GW vs. Others drama while here I am having fun building my bloodthirsty boys.

>>96342189
miniatures aren't toys
keep crying about nobody clapping over your offtopic shit

>>96342210
Good for you WE enjoyer. I'm just going to sit here and try and figure out what army I should get to 1500pts and painted/based.

It genuinely takes me 8 hours to paimt 1 model, I'm so slow

>>96342220
The one you would enjoy playing more would be my choice.

>>96342215
40k is playing toy soldiers with extra steps. Please stop telling yourself otherwise.

>>96342233
>40k is playing toy soldiers with extra steps.
Holy shit anon thats the one fucking thing you cant say. Are you fucking nuts?

>>96342215
>miniatures aren't toys
They very much are anon. Don’t pretend they’re anything else.

>>96342233
Uh oh /m/aggot

>>96342229
It takes me even longer than that, you're doing fine

>>96342247
literally says on the box THIS PRODUCT IS NOT A TOY

>>96342252
I know. That doesn’t change that they’re objects that people play with therefore a toy.

>>96342215
>miniatures aren't toys
Yes they are, stop taking this shit so seriously

>>96342229
And most retards who claim to be a part of the hobby never clip a single sprue. You're doing great.

>>96341764
Ngl wish my marines got those

>>96342249
>>96342265
I will end up taking years to finish my first army.

>>96342215
wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg

>>96342229
Depends on the mini, depends on your experience, depends on your method just keep at it. The trick is no matter how long it takes to setup your weekly schedule so that you're getting hobby time in at a constant rate, eventually you will work through your stuff without burnout.

>>96342291
As long as you're enjoying the process there's nothing wrong with that

>>96342252
I just got a Death Korps of Krieg KT box in the mail to kitbash into some Grenadiers, and looking over the box there's
>Legal warnings saying "Contents supplied unpainted, assembly required, contents may vary"
>"WARNING. Small Parts, sharp points" in various languages
>A 12+ age rating with a label saying not for children under 3
>GW copyright/legal stuff with their address
Nowhere does it say "NOT A TOY" on the box.

>>96342295
Those have no home. 40kids dont want them. Btech fags dont want them. Literal trash.

>>96342215
lmao no mom my miniatures aren't toys!!!

they're not comics they're graphic novels!

>filling shoulder gaps, still more work to do
>might get rid of stupid power cords going to fists from the wristguards
>might add "I'm special too!" stuff like dragon skulls to their backs
>waiting on cyclone missile launchers in mail
>fitting their shields on a test model soon, the captain models will be ASS.TERMI'S
>waiting on thunder hammer weapons, hesitent since I just broke a shield(extra one) trying to cut a piece off it (it shattered)

Other than an ungodly amount of slicing and shaping (mainly the captains dick tabard and cape wrapping around legs, RESHAPING the legs as I go)...

I'm having fun with the build. Out of 72 termis I'd say 20 are near the priming stage. Pictured above.

>>96340693
>The lore, setting, models have been better as ever.
Holy ESL

>>96342347
10% white world soon to be 9%

>>96340920
You better not be lying, I start that book tomorrow and all the others have been utter shite.

>>96342345
>72 termis
What chapter. Also are you going to drill the barrels?

>>96342295
>>96342315
yeah, way to misread two different fanbases, yeesh

>>96342357
I don't. and i have yet to read a bad Chris Wraight book, he's usually decent to great

>>96342358
I drilled some, fucked up one and stabbed myself twice. I am leaving barrels for a later date since I am forcing it with the wrong tools. Also, I might get some "muzzle flash" transparent bits and having drilled barrels will be less contact area for them to glue on.

In the air on the barrels atm.

The Chapter will be Successors of Salamanders (dragon themed) while using Dark Angel rules. Just for the first company.

>world is a death world meant for mining
>they stabilize the third attempt to colonize
>have to defend from foreign dragon species that somehow survive the deathworld
>find out the dragon species isn't native

Chapter name will be "Spire Dragons". color scheme pending.

>>96342291
Don't rush to get to the worst part of the hobby.

Is this enough for a drilled barrel? Or should I go deeper?

>>96342389
you can gain a practical effect with a matte black paint inside

>>96342389
It's fine because you'll be painting it black.

>>96342384
I'm using a hobby knife and a army painter drill. I stabbed the barrel in the middle with the knife and rotate it a couple of times. Then I inster the smallest drill in the hole rest the wheel psron on my palm and rotate the drill with my fingers. Its a sure and easy way to do it and you can't fuck up.

>>96342389
Unless the weapon has a ported muzzle, it looks fine with shallow drilling and paint.

>collecting GSC
>1200pts of painted models and counting
>another 700 on sprue
>want to collect Dark Eldar as well
is this how a pile of shame becomes a thing?

>>96342398
>>96342402
Thanks!

>>96342421
I'll do the ported ones deeper to cross the drill holes.

Played a game today, first time with my blue orks. Got absolutely destroyed by some autist with salamanders but had an absolute blast doing it. A brutalis shredded through a group of killa kans and meganobz like they were made of paper. Orks are probably my favorite army to play so far though.

>>96342417
One of the barrels cracked outward while I was hand spiraling my hobby knife. Hands arent as stable as I used to have, so it was natural I messed up one. I did about half of those terminators so far. The one aiming up I wanted to test with a flat surface to glue a shooting-plume onto.

>3 units of termis
>2.5 units of deathwing
>full 10 unit of storm shield and hammer termis
>2 leaders, chaplain and librarian
(at 2000 points here)
>5 terminators with incomplete bits, might turn them into other termies

That was the plan of my 12 boxes. I have plans on the tyranids but those conversions will take months. Doing the quickest to complete army atm.

>>96342444
2k before assault terminators*
not using 15 of them in a 2k game so I have some leeway to change out things

>>96342426
>is this how a pile of shame becomes a thing?
Yes. Stop buying. Build and paint what you have. Choose one army to get too 2k. Get their painted and based. Then reevaluate what army you want to expand.

>>96342440
>A brutalis shredded through a group of killa kans and meganobz
I see you are a man of taste.

Get rid iofnarmy rules
Go all in on the detachments

>>96342426
Doing two armies at once can be a palate clenser. It's a hobby for fun. Don't put a time limit and do what confucious would tell you "go as slow as you want, just don't stop".

Just don't go to a third army and if you do, you have a problem.

I used to do orks and chaos at the same time. I would tell myself "get 1250pts done first" then I would play with another army. I had 3 chaos armies of 2k roughly at that point, and we liked to play 3k games. So I started orks while doing more chaos.

>>96342046
I like my Bandai ultramarine a lot.

>>96342458
Good thing the range is not available to purchase. I mostly play against Guard and Marine players so having a Lelith charging into a 25 man infantry squad with 12 attacks, getting sustained 2 and anti-infantry 2+ looks very nice. Not that I have an issue killing infantry but being able to do it with a single model is quite appealing.
>>96342481
I've held unto buying more models before finishing what I have but I found a 2nd hand deal that I couldn't simply pass (boxless sprues at 45% MSRP of GW) so I ended up with 700pts of models. Currently painting 10 metamorphs + Iconward for the monthly collage. I got 2 ridgerunners, a patriarch, 10 acolytes and 30 neophytes to build and paint so I should not get anything for a while.

>>96342215
Loel

>>96342505
>boxless sprues at 45% MSRP of GW
I wouldn't pass that up either if it was a faction I wanted.

>>96342215
>your space robot model kits are toys lmao
>noooooo my hecking epic spaceman model kits aren't toys nooooo
Imagine being this unaware

>>96342472
and get rid of strategems too while you're at it.

>>96342295
I like the tank with spider legs but outside that it's not for me

>>96342538
>the tank with spider legs
*Rees internally.

>>96342510
>>96342521
seething /m/aggots

>>96342546
Stop anon. Have some dignity and just take the L as the kids say.

>>96342521
Toy soldiers are for men.
Toy robots are for children.
Fuck off to shill gundam somewhere else

>>96342546
just take the l bro, this is embarassing

>>96342556
Cry harder off-topic shill

>>96342556
>>96342563
the only one taking an L is the samefagging tourist trying to shill his mechaslop on /tg/

>>96342556
>>96342563
>samefagging from multiple devices
yeah, it was a troll all along

My chapter has 10k marines. AMA.

>>96342557
I didn't read the reply chain, are you including warhammer minis in the toy soldier category or the toy robots category?

>>96342582
What's the 7395th called?

>>96342557
I take it you're a guard player then? And you own no Sentinels?

>>96342567
You do understabd this board has two mecha generals? I don't think the lancerfags keep theirs going or it would be three.

>>96342600
NTA but thats me. One day I hope to have a Knight to ally in occasionally.

>>96342599
Kenny P.
>whats the P stand for?
>you if you give me a good time

>>96342569
>going full schizo
whatever helps you cope

>>96342615
be less obvious with your phrasing next time you want to samefag lil guy

Ignore the /m/aggot troll and move on, frens

>>96342599
Titus. There's exactly 238 marines named Titus in the chapter.

I want everything in the Imperial Fist combat patrol. It only has 5 Intercessors. Outside of the chance I find someone who wants a set of campany champions to split a box with, how do I solve this?

>>96342642
Kitbash them into sternguards, or buy only extra intercessors instead of another box, it's not difficult

>>96342614
>p is pi is π
>π is a trilithon
>p stands
woah

>>96342092
They are a really strong unit yes.

>>96342631
I'm very sorry people calling your plastic space soldiers toys triggered your autistic ass so much lmao

Okidoki Might be able to clutch the collage entry if I can finish the base next weekend.

>>96342700
(you)

>>96342582
Why are they gae?

>>96342739
Emps made all marines male so they had to make do.

>>96342701
Hey good job anon!

>>96342794
Thanks :)
His tactical rock is smooth so I'm planning on making it a hunk of Fire opal (picrel) to pop from the blue dirt.

I'm waffling on if I should keep the blossoms (do them in a bioluminescent white/blue) or to just nix em completely and use em for another army.

>>96342642
you don't need more than 5 intercessors, they're just sticky objective monkeys

So which of the two 5th edition armies with minimal updates do you think have aged better over the last fifteen years? Drukhari or Grey Knights?

Embrace CHAOS.

>>96342849
Drukhari, GKs look terrible.

Trying to start up a small 1000pt (maybe 1500 pt?) army for Night Lords, here's what I have so far:

10-man legionaries, 10-man Nemesis Claw, 2-man Obliterators, 1 Chaos War Dog Brigand, 5-man Chaos Terminators.

What else should I get? I want the Murderwing Kill Team coming out later this year for sure, and I've heard Rubrics are good for overwatch in the Renegade detachment which is what I'm gonna end up running, but I don't know what else to get.

>>96342868
what the actual fuck is going on here

>>96342868
I think I see what you're going for, and like the concept... but I can barely make out any details on the model.

>>96342872
cultists. especially old Dark Vengeance ones.

Whats the better book - the Book of Lorgar or Book of Magnus?

>>96342890
The screamers look like flying sand paper

>>96342881
normal amount of weathering for current youtubers

>>96342918
LOL shots fired!

Can you not shove a dreadnought in a drop pod anymore?

>>96342966
dread drop pod was always a different thing

>>96342966
No, the model doesnt fit

>>96342966
Yes but the dread pod is legends and dreads have shit rules.

>>96342982
Like I care about shit rules.

>>96342992
Dunno man they are just really really bad. They can't do enough to warrant a 100 point tax for the pod.

>>96343000
New recruit says its 75. Doesnt change your point tho. Its not about being good. Its about fielding models alike. My list is going to be winning much of anything I expect. But I will enjoy building, painting, and fielding it.

Who has the better aesthetic, Ultramarines or Blood Angels?
Personally I gravitate towards the Blood Angels because I like red more than blue but I also like the Pseudo-Roman thing the Ultramarines have going.

>>96343025
blood angels look better than UM but the new models fucked them over hard

how is angelic inheritors as a detachment
the match-long perks seem nice compared to the dogshit 1st company task force shit

Ultramarines don’t even have an aesthetic

>>96343025
Death Company is peak

What's the best loadout for the Brutalis? Talons and melta?

>>96343035
Dey iz romans in space. Wit da plumes and da leather thongs.

What would you rename space wolves units/characters/weapons/vehicles/etc to in order to make them less Wolfcore(TM)?

Is one hour a reasonable amount of time to wait to paint over brushed on airbrush primer?
I need to rush out my character for the august collage.

>>96343035
They're supposed to be Romans in space but they're doing a pretty bad job at it really

>>96343051
Talons are for Blood Angels and Space Wolves only, every one else gets fists

>>96343054
Vlka Fenryka

>>96343060
Check first but you're kinda rushing there. Should be okay if it's hot and dry where you are.

>>96342868
>simpsonsmakeupshotgun.webm

>>96343054
>in order to make them less Wolfcore
If thats your opinion you are playing the wrong chapter.

>>96343071
Why the fuck did they squat him?

>>96343051
Pretty much

>>96343071
Mfw I am lying

>>96343090
Because fuck Blood Angels that's why.

>>96343090
to get you to buy new product

>>96343100
THEY DIDNT EVEN REPLACE IT

>>96343035
I always saw that as the aesthetic. Ultramarines are just meant to be the Platonic Space Marine, and play however you feel like that day. It feels wrong to play fast-paced Imperial Fists, or tanky but slow White Scars. But Ultramarines would utilize either or both purely because they're the normal guys who'd incorporate anything that might be useful.

>>96343071
>muffled HORUS GET YOUR FLAT ASS OUT HERE

>>96343100
They don't make any equivalent.

>>96343093
This is actually true.
Space Wolves kept their special dreads.
Someone at GW really hates Blood Angels and they are in a position to decide what happens.

>>96343052
no more than a twist of "roman", you can barely taste it and someone unfamiliar with the off-model guilliman lore would never notice

>>96343118
Did blood angels keep the librarian dread?

>>96343124
nope lmao

Is it rules legal to field a 10 man squad of riot maul arbites?
I don’t have the agents of the imperium rulebook in pdf form.

>>96343107
every codex compliant chapter has the same stuff ultramarines do apart from surrogate chapters feeding them new recruits every time they get wiped out. your feelings are stupid.

>>96343125
good riddance, if grey knights and thousands sons can't have one Basedboy Angels can't either

>>96343126
yes, it would be a subductor squad (85 points)

Female adeptus custodes

>>96343139
subhuman NPC take

How big would an all-purpose codex supplement for marines (a book with everything that's locked to a specific chapter) be in comparison to the baseline marines codex?

I was promised that this thread would be better but its worse than the last one reeeee

>>96343118
Look at the fantastic Black Templar and Dark Angels refresh. Look at the beginning of the great Space Wolves refresh... and then there are Blood Angels. Gutted, declawed, degloved, turned into the worst version and the most hated version of Stormcast with a shitty upgrade sprue for Death Company.

>>96343150
Irrelevant. Retards will buy it anyway and the rules will immediately be changed.

>>96343161
the refresh coupled with dangels getting a good one immediately before and wolves getting a great one immediately after legitimately killed my drive to finish my blood angels

>>96343144
hands shaking from multiple geneseed flaws barely managed to type this post before mauling and eating the nearest serf

>>96343174
You haven't narrowed down the chapters enough for me to understand who you are insulting.

>>96343141
Are female custodes still canon?

>>96343198
Always were baby. I mean m'am. I mean my lady. *tips the fedora and moves out of the way because it's HER turn*

>>96343054
>Wolf Lord
Jarl
>Wolf Priest
Skald
>Rune Priest
Olmathr
>Wolf Guard
Drengr
>Wolf Guard Terminators
Drengr Terminators
>Wulfen
Berserkr, Veithimathr
>Blood Claws
Drangs
>Thunderwolf Cavalry
Himthiki Cavalry
>Long Fangs
Flotnar
>Stormfang
Stormathr
>Stormwolf
Farmathr
>Fenrisian Wolves
Ulfr
>Cyber Wolf
Nerkerfi Ulfr
>Canis Wolfborn
Drotinn
>Skyclaw
Brynjasmithr

>>96343139
I just want dreads to be viable man.

>>96343217
Just as gay as wolfcore.

>>96342582
Looks like a Sister of Silence cosplaying a marine.

>>96343161
They've done Blood Angels dirty, I asked my friend to bring the stuff that went to legends to play against and the old Death Company Dreadnought is such a nice and fun model that the new one isn't, which is a Brutalis Dreadnought painted in black.

>>96343118
Space Wolves dreads are characters, and one of them is Bjorn. No way GW was gonna ditch Bjorn

>>96343238
>which is a Brutalis Dreadnought painted in black
GW keeps forcing the redemptor chassis as the new standard when it makes no fucking sense. It's a leviathan equivalent, not a new boxnaught.

>>96343238
The worst part is that it's over. They won't get another update to Sanguinary Guard. They might get new Dreads or new Death Company at some point but Sanguinary Guard will forever be shit.

>>96343268
They can be salvaged with 3d printed jump packs with wings. But I don't get why they went from 5 man units to 3 man units with terminator bases.

>attempt tricky hazard stripe tech using tape on a weird surface
>it works
Hell yeah

>>96343268
It sucks really, I don't know what GW was thinking or if they were thinking in the first place. I don't even play the faction but do feel bad for those that play. I'll ask him to bring the Librarian Dreadnought next. Being able to teleport your units around sounds too fun, at my expense probably.

>>96343341
>I don't know what GW was thinking
They're thinking that when they rush the refresh, they will be celebrates for "fixing" them when they just tricked people into buying models twice.

>>96343360
They even wrote in the article thaat they removed the wings because the designers thought they were stupid. Still there is no excuse for fat stormcast as Sanguinary Guard.

Genuinely question, why do units in 40k stand mashed together in blobs instead of spreading out and covering ground like real infantry?

>>96343391
>Genuinely question, why do units in 40k stand mashed together in blobs instead of spreading out and covering ground like real infantry?
Because templates were removed.

>>96343391
It depends. Sometimes you want range but not too much range, sometimes you want to be able to threaten an objective/unit, sometimes you want to hide your unit from LOS.

>>96343391
because when you have them spread at maximum cohesion distance people call you a WAACfag

>>96343391
Damn I hate that Weyland Yutani Terrain, it's practical but takes away from the experience for sure. Fox Studios please sue them for name infringement.

A LEAF

>>96343391
I'm sure you are a great military expert and definitely not making presumptuous assertions about things you have no firsthand knowledge

Playing DoW again got me thinking pure copium. What if the updated "tactical squad" is a mix of tacticals and devastators? As in, 5 to 10 dudes per unit, 2 per 5 can get plasma incinerators/pyreblasters/melta rifles or heavy bolters/multimeltas/pyrecannons.

>>96343440
I will have you know I have fought innumerable campaigns bringing honor and glory to my toy soldiers.

>>96343440
I spent 8 years in the infantry and I know a thing or two about squad spacing, idk why you are getting strangely defensive though

>>96343391
How can anyone look at this pic and actually want to play this game?

>>96343484
Are you the totally an experienced veteran that claimed morale is irrelevant in warfare from the other day?

>>96343122
>Ultramarines are the Space Romans of the Astartes
>therefore they're all boring generic and their personality varies between super-disciplined and super stoic with the exception of a few named characters
>with none of the inner conflict which marked roman discipline as a restraining force rather than the natural state of romans nor are there any real deep flaws to showcase what happens when they let their famous discipline break
>"There is no praise in integrity when it is never challenged"

>>96343467
>updated taxticals
God I hope not

>>96343542
Why not?

>>96343500
Nope.

>>96343440
I'm sure you're not so much of a retard that you think everybody stacks shoulder to shoulder with their entire squad in combat

>>96343141
Sexoooo

>>96343484
>watch me lie on the Internet

>>96343576
You're definitely too much of a retard to understand a certain degree of abstraction is necessary for game rules

I've got 50 points to fill
would an ancient stuck to the sternguard be a good pick

>>96343467
Playing DoW again got me thinking pure copium. What if the updated "killa kan" has baggy pants and cool sneakers

>>96343391
Why have you been posting the same sallyanon pics you saved from 4chan for over a year?

Autism is a hell of a drug.

>>96343588
an apothecary could save a few marines

>>96343603
dunno how I didn't see it was 50pts too, will have to see if I've got the stuff to kitbash one laying around

>>96343606
they wont kit hard but they can bring back dudes you protect decently and get pecked at

I considered a trip of plasma marines with them.

looks like the thread lost containment, all the 40gays have escaped

>>96343596
Kek I've posted some real bangers with that pic

>>96343731
>the lowest effort slop
>bangers
subhuman behaviour

>>96343141
Sexooo

>>96343467
I feel like if they update the Tactical Squad it should come with a Nihlus themed detachment themed around how cut off they are from wider Imperium support.

Threads deader than wfg

Boys, I have spent the entire weekend jacking off to AI text chats instead of painting. That is all.

>>96343796
>>96343844
someone get the flamer

>>96343141
I would frick them

>>96343844
Could be worse. Your models could have copyright information decals stuck to them because you're retarded

>>96343859
mommy

>>96343844
I have spent my free time jacking to hentai when I could be painting. We can suffer due to our time wasting choices together.

>>96343865
Wait, what'd i miss?

>>96343596
Because he plays games and posts them too much.

>>96341085
I am perpetually mad that there hasn't been another game where the Big Zam is playable.

What's your headcanon for why Imperium birth rates are so high when they spend every waking moment working?
>That's exactly why they're so low now but they seem to have "solved" this.

>>96343928
Harsh living means women are desperate to submit to a man to improve her lot.
Homemaker is ironically one of the easiest jobs in the Imperium.

>>96343928
People had kids back in ye olden times by the dozen, and they had them working factory jobs to bring in more revenue (when rural living went out of style). Plus no contraceptives and condoms means what free time they have is probably spent going at it raw.

>>96343908
God forbid someone participate in the hobby

>>96341785
This

>>96343928
The asses and tits are fat obvs

>>96343980
Shark mouth is pretty kino

>>96343928
No headcanon needed, at least in the case of Necromunda. The planetary government carefully measures population and increases or reduces sex drive via hormones, aphrodisiacs, or other drugs added to the water supply. People then simply follow their chemically manipulated instincts.

Anyone get this month's white dwarf? Was it good?

>>96343391
>Genuinely question
Genuinely asking where the rest of your words went

>>96343859
Why was this deleted and this wasnt>>96343985

>>96344104
visible nipples, as has been the rule on blue boards since forever.

New
>>96344123

>>96344123

>>96344123

>>96343113
Just buy a brutalis and paint it black with a red X.

>>96340784
The Adeptus Titanicus book "The Defence of Ryza" has some cool moments involving knights, not the complete focus but they are more than a footnote

>>96341210
>until Guilliman comes back and orders your ass to gather all of your assets and go be an officer in the Indomitus Crusade

>>96340826
> all 18 FW primarchs
> all the 54mm Inquisitor game models
> about 10 to 20 various squads from different armies all painted up
> a giant Ryza mechanicum/mechanicus army
> a deathwatch army of 1 marine from each of 100 different chapters all kitbashed