do you like fem Kris /v/?
>looks like a boy even when wearing a skirt
>still cute
How does he do it?
>>712843228HE'S FICTIONAL YOU FUCKING MORON
>>712843228>heI think you mean they sir
>>712842863 (OP)Where are the giant oversized tits, thighs and ass?
Ah, you must be talking about FemKris, from my favorite Nintendo series Super Kris Sisters. Truly a cultural phenomenon that one!
>>712842863 (OP)Please do not discuss videogames
>Who do you think
>taught you to
>LAUGH and CRY!?
>... What, you think
>it's MY fault you
>forgot HOW!?
Wait, what did Tenna mean by this?
>>712844006i really like this artist's deltarune drawings
>>712844235There we go
Much better, thank you
>>712843721Kris has a cute penis.
what was ralsei looking for in the library
>people already making cope theories that the soul is chara
I hope toby doesn't pull another chara and actually hammers that the player is the one doing it
>>712844863>Slamfucked by a 4 incherHow EMBARRASSING, Noelle
>>712844997He better not be a pretentious fag and punish people for Snowgrave.
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>>712845970>He better not be a pretentious fag and give players who go out of their way to perform heinous actions a storyline that displays the consequences of those decisions
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>>712842863 (OP)it's the only valid Kris
also it makes Ralsei straight which is hilarious
>>712842863 (OP)kris can be fem if they want to
I like Fem Kris because Ralsei would hate fucking her, but he still would
>>712846987>I like going the wrong way>It gives you ideasTime to grow up.
>>712847223You know full well he did not mean "i love gaslighting teenagers into killing their friends and violently raping htem"
>>712847316>killing>rapingWhen did this happen?
>>712847572No one died, Berdly has the flu or a fever at most
There was no rape, that was exaggerated by shitposters, he stuck the thorn in her finger
>>712847602dont post this gachaslop in my deltarune thread again
>>712847936>a flu>bedridden in the fucking hospital
>>712842863 (OP)i feel nothing looking at chris, tits, dick or ass, kris does nothing at all to me
>>712842863 (OP)future rape victim energy
>>712848427The flu will do that to you
>>712847936>i-t's not rape you just violently plant your seed inside her
>>712847602LOVE must be the reason why
Noelle won't be left a DYKE
And must spend all of her life, with (You) by her side
The message
Has already been said
Through the field of
Hopes
And
Dreams
>>712848690who are you quoting?
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>>712842863 (OP)Is this the thread? And yeah, I like her even if she is rare. Humans are all cute.
>>712844997Get ready. The player will not be diagetic.
>>712844997Charafags have gone in full on damage control ever since chapter 2 came out and it didin't devolve into "ebin genocide kris vs sins crawling on your back sans while megalovania plays in the background"
>>712842863 (OP)yes I like femKris (male)
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It took a few years, but at long last, all the artists are doing kriselle art.
>>712847602>>>/vg/Fuck off, ligmite
>>712849948toby will never permit this
>>712842863 (OP)Yes, for the sole implication that in ch4 snowgrave (You) force yourself onto 2 women.
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Ideon in Super Robot Wars Alpha 3
>central to the plot
>always does something crazy in cutscenes, like slicing a planet in half
>unique and fitting gameplay mechanic
>absurdly powerful to the point of being gamebreaking
>Ideon Gun has INFINITE RANGE
>is pretty much robot cthulhu
What more could you possibly want?
>>712850137Oh well, I made peace with the fact that we'll get Krusie instead.
>>712842863 (OP)I don't like this thread
>>712850202i thought men weren't into rape? isn't it supposed to be a female fetish?
I can't believe I miss Onion. I found him annoying in Undertale and I wanted to forget about him, and now he's gone. There is not a single trustworthy person in this game. Both Dreemur and Holiday families are hiding something, Ralsei hides information from us, Kris is our enemy, Susie is unpredictable and everyone else is a stranger. Not only Onion was our only true friend, but he was also the non-goner character to barely acknowledge Gaster's existence (He heard his theme on the water.) And now the goner mafia took him out. Rest in peace my friend.
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blot out the sun and keep me company, Elnina.
>>712850264Why did you screencap this worthless post? Did you make it?
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>>712850137Not only does he permit it, he sanctions it. Think about it for a second:
the reason why toby made Kris a they/them is so that his tumblr fandom wouldn't screech when he did a bait and switch by introducing Susie and Noelle as lesbians and then having them both get together with Kris. No, it's not a man dicking down two lesbians, it's yuri!
But I know you, you sly fox. I know Kris was originally male in your drafts. I know you're ending this story with the boy getting both his childhood friend AND bully. You scheming bastard.
>>712842863 (OP)femkris is for page 10 futa susie
prove me wrong (you can't)
>>712850382i regret making it
>>712844997Chara in Frisk's body is the Knight.
>>712850414Susie isn't unpredictable, she'll do what she thinks the right thing is with her limited information
have sex with your tv RIGHT NOW
Why doesn't Kris just beat the everloving shit out of the soul?
>>712842863 (OP)Imagine getting raped by THIS
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>>712850418CLOUD, BLOCK OUT THE SUN
OVER ME, OVER ME
AND SPOIL, SPOIL ALL THE FUN,
WON'T YOU PLEASE?
>>712842863 (OP)>pedo furry shipping simulatorpass, back to tumblr with you
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What's this guy's deal?
>>712850549Now draw Kris making out with the Knight while she watches.
>>712850509Post your archives doe chad
>>712844997>>people already making cope theories that the soul is charaKris Is Already Using This Cope
You Can't Double Copesies
>>712850437Him making Bratty lesbian out of nowhere is another part of pre-emptive damage control. "Hey, you wanted a lesbian romance with a scaly girl, here's your lesbian romance with scaly girl."
>>712850137>childhood friend gets the bad endSad
>>712850414Every character outside of Susie is a traitorous duck and Onion is my bro.
>>712850549you better not let this generic loli take all the threads from now on
Who will be killing who first?
>>712850437Tricky Tony WILL continue to get away with it
>>712850437it's not that deep. he's writing the most obvious lesbian romance anyone has ever seen. noelle dismisses kris. susie wants to be with noelle. his intentions could not be clearer, anything else is a beautiful delusion and godspeed to anyone who can sustain it.
>>712850602stfu, 4chan is whatever I want it to be
>>712849335>>712849947to the fags from last thread
>>712850621He represents freedom, and fun!
>>712850682noelle will kill rudy on the weird route
of this i am certain
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I wanna jizzle inside a mizzle.
>>712850558She can spoil me and freeze my balls with her cloudy ass anytime.
>>712850264Seething post with angry face, b-but I'm not mad.
>Susie knows the main song of the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h1GZ9_PjLo&ab_channel=Rockmanslayer00
So, where did she heard that from?
>>712850549Kris, put away that hockey stick, you need to hit this thing with a shovel instead.
Even though it will never happen, it would be very satisfying to be able to address the monsters after taking control of our original vessel.
>>712848427The sea monster was in there for just having a sore throat, maybe monsters just go to the hospital for lesser reasons
>>712850743I think Noelle might kill the Knight personally on the weird route without ever realizing she just snowgraved her sister. Assuming Dess Knight theory pans out.
>people didn't actually know kris wiped his phone
you're telling me they SAW kris talking to mystery niggas on his phone and didn't immediately think to check it when they got back in his body?
>>712850696>mentally ill tranny still coping
>>712850640Flush. I kinda wish I could play a Deltarune without Noelle in it.
>>712850763Can't believe UTY predicted diegetic music.
>>712850674thread will use DEMOCRACY to decide
>>712850743She can't even kill Burghley
>>712850746She's going to be a nice goopy super light blue to white color.
>>712850552No fair, most men need to take supplements to produce that much :(
>>712850806Wait really? The first thing I did after leaving the house was check the phone, it seemed really obvious to do so. People playing this game missing the fucking easiest story softballs I swear.
>noelle says dess would hit kris with a fucking wiffleball bat
>the bat you find in the room is literally fucking bent
Did she activate him?
>>712850806I realised when he didin't have Sans' number in the next chapter
>>712850815one hidden scene with some sexual tension doesn't outweigh the entire noelle house section anon.
>noelle and kris can't get together because the game's theme is moving on!
yeah but they share the same friend group, still share the same interests, and before the events of the game they would get together to study regularly. it's not like they're childhood friends who haven't see each other in a decade (like in the case of omori). they're two people who love each other but have grown distant and guarded because of a traumatic loss
>>712850696You have no leg to stand on after chapter 4. Keep seething.
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>>712850752Based
this is what the reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpIsA7OniXc
>>712850696This. I sincerely hate the pairing. The whole cliche just pisses me the fuck off like you wouldn't imagine, for a lot of reasons. I can't deny it's going to happen though, I can just see the train moving along exactly as expected with all of the same old tropes.
I don't know who the fuck he's pandering to though. Most lesbians would never even like Noelle.
>>712850621If only he had the [spolier]___[/spolier]
Alas, no one will shed a tear for him
>>712850825It wouldn't be a toby fox game if he didin't ruin it with dykes
>>712850847>>712850549I feel like this Bratty Heart would be utterly obsessed with Kris and desperately want him to recognize her as a woman (i.e. fucking her)
What's her fucking problem?
I need my <insert controller> jumpscare in the soundtrack :(
>>712850621Honestly unsure if Rumb genuinely is on Kris side or is messing with him knowing he has no real way to fight the soul
>>712850967what about this then
>have to use the tranny thread
sigh
"Kris, my lovely, manly blue cucumber, where are you?? I've been waiting a whole day in your town and you haven't come by yet!! KRIS!!! I should've said you were cool, you're a cool blue cucumber!"
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>you don't want to be caught when the sun goes down
>The Roaring Knight appeared in a Dark World made when it was dark outside
>Also appeared in church world when it was dark and raining outside
>Only shows up in the light world at night
>Kris breaks out of our control, but only does things we can't see when its nighttime
Hmmm...
>>712851010this is a friendship.
>>712850967https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYahi-Y3O50
>>712850967You are right. Noelle house section itself does that.
>retroactively turns Ferris wheel ride into a nothingburger>shows how unhealthy Noelle's attraction to Susie really is>shows that Kris lives in her hand rent-free
>>712850621Toby dropped the concept of schizo bosses but that doesn't meant the lore ramifications of them are gone. There's still something going around waking different characters to their reality. It's just they aren't necessarily going to be boss fights.
>>712850910i mean jjust going off of susie there's no way his tastes weren't influenced by dess
>>712850746>Cumming in the holy waterThe Titan is going to suplex you through the commentators table in a hell in a cell match for that you know, right?
>>712842863 (OP)what nortubel character is this?
>>712850418She should blot out the sun by shoving my head under her skirt
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>>712850696>noelle dismisses krisAt least play the game.
>>712850993Anon give me a break. It would generate enough outrage as it is if Noelle were allowed to be single, they would fucking hate Noelle.
>>712850343Im going to fuck this jar of dust
>>712851092>>712851105susie and kris have an intimate friendship. the song that plays while they're in the diner is literally called FRIENDS.
>>712842863 (OP)It's cute when he looks like that but he's still a boy
>>712851121what do you think would happen if you tried to bring a "conceptual" darkner like the weather guys into the light world?
...
actually how the fuck did kris and susie even bring them to castle town in the first place
>>712851132>but only does things we can't see when its nighttimewell actually he does that in the morning too during ch4
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>>712850414Susie isn't unpredictable,vid anything she is straight up loyal. She's just pissed the ones she trusts are hiding shit from her.
Sans is still trustworthy, but you're not ready for that conversation
>>712850549Draw Kris kicking the shit out of her in the Weird route.
>>712851141Maybe the tard class theory isn't that far fetched
>>712850414>There is not a single trustworthy person in this game.
>>712851098anon nobody thinks femkris is a tranny
femkris is 100% female
>don't play the grand piano in chapter 4
>go back to the study and the door to the fountain is somehow open already
>none of the cutscenes in that area trigger
is this some deep lore or did I just stumble upon some speedrunner shit
>>712851132>the roaring knight?>no no I meant the roaring night>they are pronounced the same you know
>I CAN DO-
>*cough*
>I CAN DO ANY-
>*cough cough*
>ANYTHIN-
>*beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep*
>>712851010one sided, if you inspect again she's like what am I thinking see us? nothing.
>>712842863 (OP)fem Kris will become our healer and Susie will take the role as the knight.
>>712850967>"K-Kris...stay behind a bit!">this is after she thinks she'll find love>she's flustered at Kris finding out it's him
>>712851351Did you had a stroke when typing this?
Honestly there might be some credence to the Carol is the Knight theory. Considering the knight made The First and Third Sanctuaries where Gerson was basically his original self (or at least an idealized perception of him) and the Gerson in Susie's dark world only saw him for his strength and power it could definitely lean that way. Carol is old enough to probably have grown up reading Gerson's books and has a lot of respect for him as a contributing member of the town.
>>712851345>I CAN DO ANYTHI->nuh-uh
>>712851242they have a goofy friendship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRo_i3hCN98
>>712851220this seems a little more than just friends
>>712851320the dude can teleport
you just cannot trust dudes who teleport
>>712851345>100 real years pass>The game updates to include Jevil in all chapters
>>712851132Seam is going to be the snowgrave final boss btw
>>712851392No, I guess you can't read.
>>712851239I think from Chapter 2 and onwards, Ralsei's able to directly recruit Darkners and transport them to Castle Town. It was only in Chapter One that Kris had to go to the abandoned classroom and pick up all the stuff themselves because Ralsei wasn't able to recruit anybody back then.
moldy box is one of the most powerful power bottoms in the world and i will offer no further elaboration
>>712851239I'd like to think they are teacher made weather cards that Toriel has stashed near the t.v. when she was using them as at-home lessons.
>>712851351Yeah, because Susie is known to be an extroverted person who always clearly communicates her feelings.
>Ralsei's a femb-
No, he's a kemoshota.
>>712851450Interesting post.
This is a Tasque Manager thread
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Childhood friends will prevail.
Toby "King of Ero Games" Fox WILL go down as the most based gamedev in history.
Trust the plan.
>>712851423toby believes in the power of friendship. it's a very close platonic relationship.
you can see the romantic fumes burning much brighter during the entirety of the noelle's house segment as long as you haven't cloaked yourself in cope.
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*blocks your path*
>>712851138Dude. If a girl hangs out with you in the school closet multiple times, invites you out to lunch, goes to church with you, puts stickers on your face, wants to sleep at your house multiple days in a row, wears your clothes and eats your shampoo, she doesn't just "like" you. Men are hopeless at getting the hint.
>>712851141my gf is a middleschool teacher and from what i've heard this is exactly what teaching them is like
>>712851345Jevil returns in Chapter 7 to reclaim his title as hardest boss.
"I can do anything" now expands to include every attack in the game.
>>712851562KEKAROOOOOOOOOO
>>712851549Wait but I thought childhood friends always lost in anime
>>712851403There needs to be differentiation between The Knight and the person making the fountains in the LIght World, because imo they're separate people, and the latter is intentionally making fountains to draw out the former.
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The doe...
>>712850893I should replay chapter 2 for this scene, too.
And add up with the segment of Noelle and Kris together, since it ties nicely.
>>712851581I worked at a summer camp last year and yeah, they speak exactly how you imagine they would.
>>712851423i want at least 50 images of this scene by the time chapter 5 comes out
if we can get so many pictures of EQUIP then we better get tons of this cute ass scene
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>>712851603This ain't an anime
>>712851019groovy asf tunes. Yes, please spoil the fun, Elnina, get that oppressive sun out of my face and replace it with your glorious ass, babycakes.
>>712850264No limbrols don't draw Kris Deltarune in a crimson, sparkling ball gown mid spin with a rose in (her) mouth it'll totally own us
>>712851431Nope, Ralsei
Seam will purify the Dark Crystals
>>712851559This fucking guz
>>712851559>you can see the romantic fumes burning much brighterThey certainly were sitting next to each other there.
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Toriel was always a slampig, she is currently pregnant with the children of at least 10 males (monsters are just built different) and will have many more inside her before she pops 'em all out in a bush somewhere and "mysteriously" doubles the town's population
>>712851578>getting the hint why is it men's fault women refuse to communicate an extremely one sided gamble on the male's part
>>712851345>Meanwhile Spamton
>>712851514What a bad bum :3
>>712851582>this even includes shit like tenna's microgames and a microgame version of the mantle fight
>>712851345Do regular enemies/bosses powercreep him by now?
>>712851501Fair enough, but you just don't want her to be gay for Noelle even though it's clear that's the point. Trust me, I wish she was straight too. It can be in your head canon I guess.
>>712851629This IS An Anime
>>712851098>Female version of am ambiguous character is tranny.Meds.
>>712844997>the player is the one doing itWasn't that the point of chara anyway?
>>712851286>Sans is still trustworthy, but you're not ready for that conversation
>>712851538every thread is a Tasque Manager thread, but that goes without saying.
>>712848427Monsters pile into the hospital over the slightest inconvenience, even five seconds out in the rain is apparently enough to give enough of them "rain-induced colds" that overbook the hospital.
>>712844997What bugs me is that even after all this time, they still miss the point of what Chara is, its the physical representation of the part of your brain that gets addicted to numbers going up, and how focusing solely on that sensation brings down the experience of the game, essentially "destroying" it. It's not fucking Freddy Krueger god damnit
>>712851559you mean the part where noelle and susie spend almost the entirety of their 'date' talking about kris? the one where susie specifically wanted to go so they could find out the shelter code? that date?
>>712851562>The world was covered in darkness.
>>712851562It's actually over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74MOLXM-yHw
>>712851685>and the mike gimmicks
>>712851132Remember when people thought it meant super special Dark Worlds at night? Lol.
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>>712851706It's an anime inspired game that will succeed where japanese media has failed.
>>712851667SHE ATE YOUR SHAMPOO
HOW DO YOU NOT GET IT
YOU DENSE MOTHER FUCKER
>>712851657they scooch over next to each other to romantically watch AVGN together. they hug each other instinctively when kris hits the guitar in the closet. susie declares that she's going to "take noelle to the festival" in defiance of her homophobic mother. this is as flagrant as it gets.
I was going to be a loser and recreate ralsei's weird route dialogue at the end of chapter 4 to own the libs, but ralsei's bloody sprites literally don't exist anywhere on the internet right now.
I guess I'll just have to be lazy instead
>>712851714AAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>712848427japanese flu, pls understandu
>>712851138>>712851414This just shows our thread lolcow tranny here has never had friends. He can't tell the difference between friendship and romance.
>>712851514he should work at the kemoshota briefs cafe
>>712851717Kris is my enemy so Sans fucking his mom would be based even if it was true.
>>712851714>Easels>The egg room in chapter 4 is about paintingTOBYYYYYY
is Ralsei the knife? What else could he even be, a dead Asriel scattered somewhere around town?
>>712851825>avgnboard james is not avgn
the ending doesn't count
>>712851825I'm not saying you're wrong, but I still hate that shitty pairing and everything it represents
>>712851867Is Asgore ever mentioned to paint?
>>712851562Dual Buster might be our only hope left...
>>712851825>susie declares that she's going to "take noelle to the festivalShould we tell him?
>>712851787>also includes the teacups (but no other overworld bullet patterns) just to fuck with people
>>712851871Ralsei is the leftover fur stuck to your laundry
No matter what you do it keeps clinging on
Mike is a shared hallucination
>>712851320He was protecting Toriel and investigating for Gaster. Trust the plan.
>>712851824For those who don't get it, women have a scent fetish. You do too. You think you don't, you do, women all think they don't until they get hit in the face with a sweaty shirt of their men. They do.
If a girl is letting you smell their hair, or drinking your shampoo, or eating your hair, or taking your shirt, she's into you. Don't ask why, it's how it is.
>>712851403Counter: Gerson was the teacher just before Alphys was.
Who would've been in the class a few years before Noelle and Kris?
You know, older sister age range.
>>712851779If Toby can even harness 1% of Akira Yamaoka's power for Snowgrave I will fuarking kneel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11rWSdkHRro
>>712851893I'm saying he's wrong and you should take that doom suppository out of your ass.
>>712851202Yes please for the love of God, lose me under that umbrella she calls a skirt.
>>712851386Need more pipi attacks in this game
I think it's funny how the Poppup ACT confirms that Susie is the one true asexual of the playable cast (yes even Ralsei included) but people still think the Susiebowl is a thing and not a deliberate subversion
>>712851915snowgrave is a horror story about the soul's toxic masculinity tearing apart a beautiful lesbian couple.
>>712851942How much does Gaster really need to know about Toriel's performance in the sack?
>>712851825>"take noelle to the festival" in defiance of her homophobic mother.lmfao just go back to tumblr or bluesky and fester in your echo chamber retard
>>712851949Hey, you take my shirt, I take your panties, bitch!
>>712851982Oh good point, I forgot about that detail actually.
>>712851582Can he delete my cloud backup tho
>>712851559Both of them at one point wishes Kris was with them lol
>>712852074i don't like it anymore than you do but that's how toby wrote the scene and that's how it was received.
>>712852037Based, I love being a toxic masculine male with testicles and a penis even
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>>712847157Genuinely beautiful
>>712847204It makes it straight, and Kris the dominant one
>>712852091Also holy shit Sans with his mouth closed is cursed.
>>712852074NTA but this is literally how it plays in the game, it's fucking dogshit but it's Toby's fault
>>712852037No, retard, I'm talking about the fact that Susie had already invited Kris to festival two chapters. She would've brought Ralsei if he was a real boy, hell, she would've probably invited Berdly if he stopped being such a twat for a second.
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I think the consensus with Kris and Susie is that they are more than just friends, but also wouldn't really date, It's the kind of bond you can only have with someone you've gone adventures with. But it also includes fucking, because they are hormonal teenagers.
>>712852037We need more toxic masculinity tearing up that crap.
>>712852018I don't think Susie is asexual, she is just so starved for a relationship (as in, "human" contact) that she ends up being pretty naive and sweet about it.
She has no romantical interest because she didn't even think she could get a friend.
>>712844997It's not Chara, but sometimes it feels like the Soul knows to do things that we, the player, obviously wouldn't think to do independently, like the whole deal with the Thorn Ring and implanting what seems like a fragment of the Soul inside of her.
>>712852012>Dragula starts playing in the distance
>>712852053Gaster is a scientist, first and foremost. People have been dying to find out since the Undertale demo and he WILL find the answers.
>>712852132You can drop the pretense, it's not fooling anyone.
Own up to your dogshit opinions and rightfully receive shit for being a mentally deranged faggot.
>>712850343>9 minutes of old man cock
>>712851269What the fuck is this from?
I love this girl.
>>712851825>carol is homophobic and that's why she doesn't approve of susie>and not because she's got a bad rep across the whole town and she's TAKING HER DEAD DAUGHTER'S GUITAR AND PLAYING WITH ITGet real bro
>>712851931GROUP HYPNOSIS
>>712851825>homophobic motheri hate this meme for getting in the way of getting any actually interesting carol interpretations
>>712852197*two chapters ago
>>712851538Given the amount of art she has i'm really mad she has like zero fucking screen time
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>Doefags wanna fuck this
>>712851916>has a Jackenstein attack where his head shows up shouting "CHAOS CHAOS!">it's actually on a timer so you actually have to hurry>has Tasque Manager's Simon Says attack>he just immediate shouts out several letters at once, no fucks given if you're not prepared
>>712852082That's usually how the dynamic works yes. It's "impolite" to mention this stuff in high society or modern day things, but its a very critical thing in a lot of relationships, and a girl leaving behind a jacket is very often a thing they do the same way men give away shirts they've used. A lot of beans have been thoroughly flicked while wearing an oversized button up shirt, and the reverse as well.
>>712852280yeah we all already knew carol was the only person with any sense in deltarune
>>712852318You're damn right
>>712852124>>712852226>>712852270>>712852280i admire that you're stubbornly wishing for a better world and refusing to see the one we live in.
but chapter 5 is going to crush this cope into paste.
>>712852190Because he's drawn to have lips when he's a fucking skeleton
>>712852074Speaking of this.
Know what the funniest punchline for the entire Carol arc would be
>You're just a big fat homophobe!>...what?>You don't want Susie and me to be together because we're lesbi->I don't want you to be together because her name isn't Christmassy enough!>...U wot?>No Holiday is marrying someone without a Christmas-adjacent name! Not on my watch! Now you'll marry Kris or so help me-
>>712852198Lets also not forget Kris has drawn horny purple dragon fanart, before even meeting Susie
>>712852093>kris clicks on a link for "monsters 4 humans in your area">ralsei (accidentally) clicks on a link for "lightners 4 darkners in your area">noelle clicks on a link to buy how to draw dragons, AND also clicks on a link for "hot female santas">all susie clicks on is a flaming eggplant with a chainsaw, a static image of a steak, or accidentally clicking the word processor instead
>>712851825>le homophobic carol meme
>>712852318You would, don't lie
>>712852263Gunsmith Cats. Literally the most American thing ever even if it was made in Japan.
>>712852280Speaking of which, I wonder why there are so many red hearts in Dess's closet as well. Did Carol put them there? If so, for what purpose? Or was Dess also fascinated by the human SOUL before her disappearance?
>>712852004>>712852037Gender
>Utena's desire to "become a prince" does not refer to a literal desire to become royalty or change her gender, but rather to her desire to exhibit qualities of courage, compassion, and strength that represent an ideal of princeliness.[93][94] "Being a prince" thus constitutes a body of ideas connoting a sense of heroic agency, rather than a reflection of Utena's gender identity or presentation.[93][95] The series contrasts the notion of the "prince" to that of the "princess", represented by the passive, helpless, and objectified Anthy.[93]>Although the simple juxtaposition of prince and princess archetypes could suggest that Utena is a straightforward "feminist fairy tale",[96] Napier argues that the series "is not simply a work of female empowerment".[97] Napier and other critics argue that Utena uses the prince/princess dichotomy to examine how gender roles restrict the development of both women and men, how the victims of this system come to enforce these restrictions on other victims, and ultimately suggests that being a "prince" is as limiting as being a "princess", as both originate from the same restrictive system.[97][98][99] This expression reaches its apex at the climax of the series, when Utena loses her final duel against Akio; though Utena ostensibly fails in her princely attempt to "save" Anthy, her actions cause Anthy to "question the rules governing her own performance as princess", and provokes her departure from Ohtori to a world where "the categories of prince and princess have been deconstructed and do not matter".[100]
>>712852198>because they are hormonal teenagersbecause they are HUMAN BEINGS
because they are MULTICELLULAR ORGANISMS
sex is an intrinsic and natural part of life and I'm really tired of "mature" stories completely glossing over it to appease corporate rating boards and social media
it has made society utterly rotten
Kris and Ralsei being filthy traitors annoys me
Just talk you faggots
Everyone wants to fuck Kris at least a little bit including (You), I don't know why this is such an argument considering this is a game with multiple routes
>>712852318mmmmmmmm <3 <3 <3
>>712852216>>712844997The framing device for Deltarune is that it's a program created by Gaster. In essence, he's using the program to allow our soul (which is still us) to enter the world of Deltarune and effect its story. So while our actions as the soul are still ours, what we do is still filtered by what Gaster and Kris allow us to do. Some of the dialogue options are very obviously what Kris is personally feeling, but it takes all of his effort to lock us out completely, which he's only managed to do once.
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>>712852397That was Asriel, but Kris is 100% a monsterfucker.
>>712852198I wish we had more Platonic relationships in media in general because zoomers think everything is related to sex and that's simply not true.
>>712851942that's probably what's really happening, hence why he's not drunk himself
the bedroom scene was not necessary
>>712849948The game just needed to present their relationship in a fashion the artists could understand.
>>712852318i'll do you one better, i'd fuck her grinch mother too
>>712852402I don't think this confirms anything besides susie being extremely simple minded
>>712851825>Homophobic mother Did everyone forget that to almost the whole town Susie is just a rotten, delinquent bully
Toriel, Kris, Berdly, and Noelle are like the only people who have seen her in a different light
>>712852394>It's not homophobia, it's just autismThat'd be amazing.
>>712852191It's not, it's clear that her mother is very controlling and protective because of what happened to Dess
Stop letting mentally ill culture warriors poison your mind
>>712852419>In considering depictions of gender in Utena, critic Mari Kotani cites the character of Utena as an example of a sentô bishōjo (lit. 'battling beauty'), a character archetype originated by psychologist and critic Tamaki Saitō.[101] Kotani argues that Utena is a bishōjo as her character design "satisfies the lustful eyes of the male voyeur who reads manga for eroticized images of girls", but that any efforts to objectify Utena are complicated by her crossdressing and role as an active protagonist. She argues that the success of Utena lies in its blending of elements of shōnen (through its focus on combat) and shōjo (through its focus on romance) vis-à-vis the character of Utena, and how this blending "deftly exposes the structure of sexuality implicit in manga for girls".[102] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Girl_Utena#Gender
I'm sorry I'm too stupid to explain it myself. But hopefully that provides context on what this stupid ass romance is trying to get at.
In case it wasn't clear, Utena is Susie. Anthy is Noelle
>>712852320>he uses Statue Gerson's audio cue attacks with brand new voice lines>the voice lines start escalating on top of each other because Jevil's duplicating himself as the attack progresses
>>712852394She’s actually a HMOFA fag. She wants her daughter to fuck a human
>>712852412>even if it was made in JapanI mean it IS America's most loyal puppet state
>>712847936The mental gymnastics you niggas do to rationalize your actions
>>712852412Thanks anon. I love late 90's animation. The girls were pretty and the guns were clean.
>>712852284>two chapters agowell yeah, and then that got superceded by susie's evident desire to make noelle happy and save her from her bitch mom.
>>712852495She's totally talking about the soul.
>>712844997>Saying shit like "Cope Theories" when jaru of all people knew what the fuck was going to happen.Stop this shit.
No one knows what's going to happen, your theories or ideas are just as cope as anyone else's.
She is the storm that is approaching. Provoking.
>>712852530Rudy likes her and wants Kris to date her
Alphys also seems to care about her a lot and is excited about Kris dating her
>>712852132>>712852191I understand it that way too
>locked Jevil up
So how powerful is he?
>>712851871he's a plush dess and noelle made
>>712852593>you not in redfake
>>712852595nigga that's a muppet
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Deltarune so far seems about not doing what you're told, but also not the opposite, rather just doing your own thing. Susie is undoubtedly the biggest representation of this. So what's she gonna do once she's prompted to choose between Kris and Noelle? She's picking both. Because fuck you, that's why.
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>>712851608Something I haven't seen people bring up yet:
Noelle's room is built from things Queen has seen her look up, right? Conveniently, at the end of her room is a "romantic" ferris wheel.
The only person she's rode a ferris wheel with is Kris, which is brought up a few times in the story now.
I think Noelle inherently treats ferris wheel rides as romantic in her mind, and its a huge clue into her true feelings, considering who she first rode one with. Not to mention the sheer cope from that conversation in Dess's bedroom. Toby is definitely planning something
you will never be a non-binary shota being fucked by the hag mother of the deergirl next door
so what was ralsei looking for in the library?
>>712852578Remind me, where was that scene where Susie said "Hey Kris, I'm sorry I can't go to festival with you, I want to go have progressive lesbian sex with your childhood friend"? I must have missed it.
>>712852270>>712852407I don't want to believe it either but you know that it's exactly what the fuck this is
Toby's yuri fetish is on full display here and Noelle and Susie will be le epic lesbians
>>712852564In all seriousness we need to get Statue Gerson to be repayable in Castle Town, would be a crime if we couldn't.
I love this game so much i wish friendships were real
>>712852647>the entire basis for this is LE HECKIN EBIN Earthbound reference>completely incoherent with the rest of the story>completely incoherent with the fact that ralsei can move between dark worlds
>>712852660Well the muppet master needs an award then. She's a very masterfully made and alluring muppet.
Normal route:
Berdly shows up at the festival wearing a cast and derails everything, 2 hour slap stick routine with mild story progress.
Snowgrave route:
Berdly shows up at the festival wearing a comically large layered winter outfit and derails everything, 2 hour slap stick routine with mild story progress.
Toby don't fail me now.
>>712842863 (OP)>do you like fem Kris /v/?
>>712852665It's fascinating to see basically the entire paradigm shift from everyone thinking Kriselle was doomed to fuck into Complete Kriselle Saturation.
>>712852665It's the most blatantly obvious romantic undertones ever in a story but because everyone is a moron that needs things to be explicitly spoonfed to them we get people calling it "cope"
>>712851582>>712851685>>712851787>>712851916>>712852320>>712852564>he gets undertale attacks as well>after a while he starts to use sans's attack teleport gimmick
>>712852665Carol was probably the one who forced them to ride together as kids
>>712852662Susie's queerness and masculinity is to be celebrated and praised. Noelle's femininity is something evil to be punished and subjugated. She's there to rescue Noelle from her evil feminine male gaze normalcy
>>712852725I assume the ending of the prophecy
Is Gaster actually going to do anything in the game? Are we going to learn anything about him? Or is Toby just gonna blueball everyone again?
>>712852759me too I wish I could go in whimsical adventures with my friends in a small town and fall in love. why is real life so gay?
>>712852647>dess and noelle madeNah, it's either Dess or Dess and Kris together. Don't forget that Kris and Asriel were trying to make a toy of their own.
>>712852416Maybe Dess was just extremely popular and those are all valentine's gifts
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>>712852665nice try self-inserting hetincel noelle already said she was forced into it
>>712852765people just took the fact that "became a pile of fluff" is an earthbound reference to think that the whole entire character is an earthbound reference.
>>712852803Gaster is either the demon in the woods OR a fractured part Kris's psyche.
>>712852769>Berdly shows up at the festival wearing a castHe arrives like this if you freed him without fucking up his arm.
>>712852635Very. He will be the final schizo.
>>712852803I hope he's hinted at again, bigger than any other hint ever and then never brought up again
>>712852840>so was it good or bad>UMM SHIT OH FUCK LET'S TALK ABOUT SOMETHIG ELSE
>>712852662DO THE IMPOSSIBLE
SEE THE INVISIBLE
ROW ROW
FIGHT THE POWER
>>712852270>>712852407I know because Baldur's Gate 3 pulled almost exactly the same thing.
>>712851825Susie also declares that she's taking Kris to the festival and wants to figure out a way to take Lancer and Ralsei, too. It isn't romantic to her.
>>712844997Both in Undertale and now probably Deltarune, the player has not existed as an actual in-universe entity. Chara was guiding or controlling Frisk in both genocide AND pacifist routes. Asriel name drops them both times. Chara is talking to Frisk in the genocide ending. If Deltarune works like Undertale, and the SOUL making its own actions seems to imply that, then it's not impossible that we are Chara. But we also could be an entirely different entity controlling the SOUL. We, though, as the player, do not exist. We are playing as somebody that controls the SOUL.
>>712852840Read what I wrote again. Even if it was forced, Noelle still sees ferris wheel rides as romantic. She had previously rode one with Kris. Put 2 and 2 together.
>>712851603Where the fuck are you getting this statistic from, I tend to see the opposite.
>>712852803the undertale gaster shit exists only for this game
I believe toby will deliver
>>712852635He used tricks!
I can't help but feel like I should keep my save file egg-free. Not because I think something bad will happen, per se, but because it seems like walkthrough/guide bait. For someone to have gotten all the eggs without looking it up is just crazy.
It feels like anyone who has a save file with all of them is going to get some kind of punishment instead of some cool cutscene/route/bonus. idk they're just too esoteric. Maybe I'm overthinking it
captcha: H8RAV
>>712852786>final move>pulls out his hardest attack, a combination of nearly everything you've seen up to that point>"TL;DR EAT SHIT, FAGGOTS, FAGGOTS"
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Aborted snowgrave is the harem ending. No faggot bird there to ruin the festival. Noelle rediscovered her feelings for Kris. And Susie likes you. It’s the perfect timeline
>>712852759I wish humans were real as well, Tenna...
>>712851824susie eats fucking pinecones and burnt shit in toasters that means nothing
>>712852840It's so funny that people still make this argument as if Susie didn't immediately call bullshit on that
>>712852416it's evidence of carol's stronger influence on dess compared to her other daughter, and thus serving as yet another hint towards the grand conspiracy and the identity of the roaring knight
or uh maybe carol REALLY likes hearts and it ended up overflowing into dess' room i dunno
>>712850837What if she's Berdleys sister in Deltarune verse and goes to the same college as Asriel?
enough shipping talk.
GERSON'S DEUS EX MACHINA IN CHAPTER 4 WAS BAD.
it was contrived, cliche, and didn't really make sense according to the logic of the game. they spend all this time building up the hopeless atmosphere of the titan and then puncture it with the silly turtle man inexplicably showing up at the last minute. its kinda fun but its not good writing.
>>712852950>then it's not impossible that we are Chara.We aren't Chara, Chara is us. They said it themself, they're the feeling we feel when our characters level up.
>>712852840You disingenuous retards really love latching onto the word forced despite the game clearly stating it happened when they were kids and kids are forced into doing things all the time. Kids have zero autonomy, that's all it is.
>>712852840>hetincelYou can't call me that, I ship Ceroba with Martlet now. Suselle still sucks and won't happen.
>>712852982If you keep posting these I'm gonna jork it
>>712853045You sound like you're letting doubt and irony poison your story.
>>712852950Most insightful and truthful post in this thread.
Hetincel sounds like some medicine lmfao
>>712853045anon the trio was capable of breaking the outer shell themselves, Gerson only served as guidance and inspired Susie to attack the inside (mirroring the Jackenstein healing thing)
>>712852585>if you activate the santa before leaving she wont clarify that kris is welcome, just asks him to turn it off before leaving>the reason why she doesnt is because "yeah thats a kris thing to do", she just assumes kris is in control at the moment>kris knows he can come over at any time, but she has to tell (you) still>we'll most likely gain the ability to go over to the holiday's house if we get another overworld bit without susie.
>>712853045>t. seething titan made he got styled on by based old man and his granddaughter
>>712852470He's the only human in town, of course he's a monsterfucker. He has no other options.
>>712852803I feel like we're gonna get some more hints about him, possibly some preety big ones, but only as things you have to go out of your way to find.
I don't think he's going to be directly involved with the game's plot.
>>712852575Suffering builds character
>>712852665The entire section with noelle and kris has extremely romantic undertones
I don't know how intentional that is, but given that it's not the only time we see a Ferris wheel it seems likely
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Kriselle chads we're up so good
>>712852783I'll be honest Suselle annoyed me so much it actually distracted me enough to not notice shit like in this pic
>>712851608For a day or so after beating chapter 4 I legitimately thought the only Kriselle moments was in Snowgrave. Maybe Toby is actually a 5D chess writer with making Suselle a red herring.
>>712853143It is a medicine that is bitter to men who don't like their own genitals
>>712853179Then I bet I'm building a lot of character right now
>>712852969I am re-reading this post and I'm not sure why I said "I don't think something bad will happen" and then "there is going to be some kind of punishment."
Just to clarify, I think something bad may happen if you get all the eggs.
>>712853045How is it contrived when it's been established the dark worlds are to a degree the reflection of the creator? Gerson is just being Gerson.
>>712852470I wonder how human fuckers are looked at in the monster community
>>712852840She only said she was forced because she likes Susie more than Kris, which is why Kriselle no longer makes any sense
>>712852840>tranny talking about incelsIrony
>>712853145>>712853117>>712853153>>712853249the whole fight with the statue enforces the idea that he's dead, he disappeared when the fountain was sealed, etc.
and just logistically -- why was he in that dark world? how did he find them? he just fuckin comes out of nowhere at the last minute. they had this whole poignant goodbye to him with the letter and finding the hammer in the desk, etc.
him coming back to bail them out just spoils it for me.
>>712853045>DEUS EX MACHINAhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucatastrophe
Reminder that Kris and Ralsei would've left Tenna to die if Susie hadn't done anything
>>712851710>>712851739yes but youd only be able to know this from the extremely blatant way she spells it out for you by actually completing the end of a genocide route
and finding an undertale fan whos done that is practically searching for four leaf clovers. anyone who thinks chara is le genocide mastermind didnt play the game
Krusie is my favorite relationship out of all of them, but I just don't think the dog has the balls to sink Suselle. At most, it would be ambiguous in the truest and best ending. This isn't Tony's first rodeo with the wild and rabid whims of the internet, I just can't see something set up as early as Chapter 1 being dumped to the wayside.
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>>712853159maybe that's why he likes Noelle so much? Aside from her being his neighbor, she's also the most humanoid looking.
>>712853252How high on copium are you, dude?
>>712853206For sure. I was hesitant to even bring this point up when chapter 2 released but the fact that Toby called back to the ferris wheel AGAIN and has Noelle reflect upon it only to dodge the question... It's really interesting.
>>712851562>you defeat it>mask falls down>its that fucking water angel thing>you equip her
>>712853045I would have liked it to go on a few turns longer. It goes by too quick. You do dual buster like once and the titan doesn't fight back anymore. Could have made it so that he protects you from attacks like how he did when he drops his cane sometimes.
>>712852783maybe some of us don't have our minds in the gutter.
>kris hearing that Noelle doesn't see him as a close friend shock him so much he stop attacking the soul
he was having his worst day in chapter 4
>>712852930I've seen people compare the Asriel fight to the ttgl finale, and I honestly see it, so with how hype some of the secret bosses have already been, I expect the final boss of chapter 7 to be the gurren lagann of video games.
>>712853315Ralsei mentions that the Third Sanctuary was created from the same fountain as the First Sanctuary.
>>712853152Death Note tier deduction
>>712853379THAT THE FUCK IS THAT MONSTROUS THING ON THE LEFT
>>712852803Hes barely even real in the first game why do you faggots ride his [non-existent] cock so much
>>712852593I would devour this old bitch so hard she'd never be able to get off from anyone or anything else even if they have a magnum dong and know each and every erogenous zone
Then I'd sincerely apologize to Rudy and disappear off the face of the earth for cvcking a brother like the weak man I am
>712852950
this is what happens when your exposure to UT is through wikis and fanfiction
>>712853374this is why we must now push the krisember agenda
>>712852950>We, though, as the player, do not exist. We are playing as somebody that controls the SOUL.whose first name is Player :D
>>712853379Please never post this image again. In fact, shift-delete it.
>>712853315nigga did you not pay attention to what ralsei said about fountains being different depending on who opened them
the knight (or whoever the fuck) made the mini-fountain in the lobby, which is what allowed gerson to be there
susie made the second lobby fountain, which just animated one of the gerson statues instead
the REAL fountain inside the church proper was also made by the knight, and flowed out into the lobby when they opened the door, leading to gerson coming back again
>how did he find them?they were fighting a 50-story behemoth
>>712853045You wouldn’t understand if you’re not a hopeCHAD that takes the pen and writes his own story.
>>712853474Rudy's gonna die regardless of what (You) do
>>712852803it will hint another game
gaster is the final boss of toby's career, not to be wasted on just two games
>>712853045>it was contrived, cliche, and didn't really make sense according to the logic of the gameDidn't get it award.
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So the popular theory is Ralsei is something Kris is carrying as that explains why he's able to show up at every Dark World the two visit.
But... Maybe its actually Susie who is carrying Ralsei? After all, Kris has never been to a Dark World without Susie and Susie doesn't wonder where Ralsei disappears to for the brief moment Kris leaves Susie alone in the Dark World.
>>712853507Sorry, not cucking my nigga Asriel.
>>712853379What the fuck, Pippi Longstocking??
>>712853252>Liking someone more means you couldn't care about anyone elseYou good bro?
>>712853225>>712853374It's hard for me to provide proper context for why I fucking hate Suselle so god damn much.
The problem is I've seen this sort of thing in so many different series. I've seen how fanbases are.
I just hate it with every fucking fiber of my being, but I don't know how to fully explain it in a way you people would get.
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>>712853379>this is how noelle looked in toby's original idea where human lightners turned into monsters in the dark worldno sir i don't like it
>>712853374>I just don't think the dog has the ballsHe sunk Toriel, he made Asriel and Dess straight, he wrote a rape allegory where real victim is the one who committed rape. He has balls.
>>712844997Then who is facing against Gaster? He initially made us create an avatar for SOUL but someone hijicked us and forces us to control Kris. It might be Gaster denying the prophecy (in normal route) while Chara using Snowgrave route to follow the prophecy to the T
>>712853434This scene destroyed Krisellefags for good, Susie asking Noelle to the festival was the icing on the cake
>>712852840fuck you. Total Yuri death.
>>712853315Opening the locked door causes the third sanctuary to spill over into the first, which is why you can backtrack to all the first sanctuary stuff when you enter the third sanctuary. You can even go as far back as the atrium if you really feel like it (I did to make sure I didn't miss anything). So obviously Gerson would come back, and naturally he would want to follow the player around in the new area that was just unlocked.
>>712853440the gurren lagann of video games already exists
>>712853445>>712853534its a separate fountain, its just "similar" to the first one. gerson shouldn't just have been chilling there waiting for the heroes to get in trouble so he could bail them out at the last second. it doesn't make sense and its papered over by the music and the surface-level coolness of the moment.
>>712853548>>712853572stuff has to make sense. gerson is totally just an old trope played straight and i loved him, but he shouldn't have come back.
>>712853591i assume this too since we already know whats in kri'ss pockets from churchscene
>>712852950>Both in Undertale and now probably Deltarune, the player has not existed as an actual in-universe entityYou stupid fucking retard. Undertale explicitly acknowledges the player AT LEAST twice. Flowey post pacifist run and Chara after doing Genocide. KILL YOURSELF.
>>712853672>DOOD LET'S RIP OF LAST OF US
>>712853507>>712853592I only accept Krismember if Susie gets with Asriel.
>>712853592azzy already moved on man, ya gotta accept that
>>712853693fuck I still need to play that. wonder how it runs on S2
>>712847157I hate how tumblr depict Krusie with their western mental illness so i switched to pixiv
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>>712853438>>712853457>>712853642I think I fucked up the nose. Like this, maybe?
>>712853561The real question is, is Toby going to cuck us out by pulling the old 'Escapism is bad >:|' in the end and force us to leave Rudy dead.
Or will he be based as fuck and let us bring Rudy to a Dark World then not find an excuse for why they always need closing.
>>712853045Cliches rule if they are executed well. And it was.
>krisellefags
the majority of it is one guy and like 5 pajeets spamming rape memes
>>712853672>implying Snowgrave (You) would allow this to happen in game
Holy shit the Deltarune fanbase is retarded.
That includes all of you btw.
>>712853636Its awful yurislop that makes me want to puke. I hate this shit with a passion, and it holds back an otherwise wonderful game.
>>712853703>stuff has to make sense.Themes>plot points anyday.
>>712853771that's still wendy nigga
>>712852840erm??? but kris is a girl which makes krusie and kriselle yuri???
>>712853672>about to strum "teenage dirtbag"Lol, she can't even play the guitar, she just randomly strums it. This alone completely destroys Suselle, Noelle simply does not cares about real Susie.
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>>712851423>>712852380>>712851778>>712851745The few close and intimate moments that Susie and Kris share together honestly work a lot better at conveying a budding romance than all the scenes with Susie and Noelle. Also Susie herself is emotionally closed off, so these subtle, ambiguous nods to her liking Kris just feel so much more in character.
>>712853759i played it on steam deck and the lowest it ever got fps wise was in the 40s and that was only in a few places
it's probably fine
I can't WAIT until Noelle turns Krissy into a popsicle so that shipfags throw themselves into the ocean
>>712853089You don't need to tell this to the thread.
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>>712853771It does look better this way, but I still hate it
Does that make me a furfag? :(
>>712853672Wow, is this The Last of Us 2?
>>712852950>the player has not existed as an actual in-universe entity
>>712853672You say this when everyone knows susie will bring Kris along, we haven't had a long Susie/Kris/Noelle interactions section to know how that shit is gonna go down
>>712853434He gets tired regardless of dialogue. Plus, it's clear from the full dialogue that Noelle saying it was forced is coping.
>>712853672I think Noelle did had feeling for Kris when they were younger, but they all passed due to Kris changing too much due the soul/him distancing himself due to something we don't know
Now I can't see them together
though ironically I think there was potential in Snowgrave Kris talked to her again, but the soul had to fuck it over and make things far more worse.
I'm not sure Susie will get with Noelle either though.
>>712853591I still think Ralsei is something Kris is holding. Ralsei must know what Kris' real-world room looks like since he designed the Castle Town room based on Asriel's side of it.
>>712853762Japs are pretty bad at Krusie too, they just don't understand that goblin dynamic between them.
>>712853859I'll double check but if it does run badly I can always just grab it on steam or gog. I know I'll love it so I definitely should check it out.
>>712850437I want to believe Toby is based and end the story on Krusie. Making it Suselle would feel like ending of Sopranos or Game Of thrones. It just woudn't be as powerfull if the main heroes didn't hook up through powerfull bonding
>>712853872only if she pulls (You) out like some kinda makeshift fatality
>>712853893No, it's what happened in the game you've never played
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>>712853790there are hundreds of us. HUNDREDS.
>>712853636It's probably because it just glaringly lacks chemistry when compared to other relationships in the game and feels contrived and cliche. It also eats most of Noelle's character in chapter 4. Maybe Toby is just playing 5d chess and it's just a red herring, but I don't know and I have to wait and see.
>>712853873Nooooo the heckin image repost noooo don't upload this again you can't do that
>>712853976Post the full picture now
I just started chapter 4's weird route. I like fucking with Noelle, but ruining Susie's relationship with Kris makes me really sad.
>>712853893at this point, probably. All that's missing is that they raise someone else's mutt baby.
>>712850549He does that on snowgrave route, but its basically self harm
>>712853794I just know for a fact that they would fucking hate Noelle if not for Susie.
Kris needs to put her over his knee and give this naughty cloud a much need spanking. But of course she'd blush about it, the little harlet.
>>712853379This is the first time that making someone into a cute human looks worse.
>>712853592Asriel is getting fucked by dragon men in college
>>712853870but ralsei
your hat
you're...
>>712853045Yeah the titan was dogshit and absolutely murdered any stakes the roaring could ever have
>b-but it was just an infant!Imagine if after godzilla shows up in a movie they just oneshot it and the threat is supposed to be multiple godzillas showing up later, it's fucking gay
>"Noelle is really looking forward to seeing you!"
>>712853952the framerate is unlocked so even without a switch 2 patch it'll run better
on PC it's the only platinum game that has a mod to fix the 59 fps lock though, I don't know if that's a platinum pc port problem exclusively or if it's also like that on console but it's a really easy fix regardless
>>712853981>be normalIs it "norma normal" or "Kris normal"? You know, eat moss, flush bath bombs, "Bangin sermon my man"?
>>712853976I just dislike susielle because there's no build up. Like this scene here, there's nothing really happening striking to me that it's anymore more than teenage crushing.
>>712853790i liked it before it was cool heh, you guys had to catch up with me
>>712853636I have some context. I think lesbianism is disgusting, and I've seen the kind of damage it can do to a girl up close.
>>712853445Yknow this makes me realize but I wonder how Second Sanctuary enemies happen to be chilling in the Third Sanctuary
Lets say we will lose controll of kris
Doesnt that mean we will lose controll of his inventory too?
He will keep all the shadow crystals if thats the case
>>712853893>>712853976It is though. It's Toby recycling a cliche that makes me roll my fucking eyes. The "butch dyke serenade" lol
>>712852759>>712852812>>712852916Please don't force feed me blackpills
>>712853703>it doesn't make sensewhat part doesn't make sense?
>knight makes main fountain, locked behind a door>knight makes mini-fountain (or maybe the main fountain just spills a bit out and this manifests as a mini-fountain?) which makes darkner gerson>after mini-fountain is sealed and the door blocking the main fountain is opened, the main fountain's darkness spills out into the area previously being darkened by the mini-fountain, re-making darkner gerson since the same "will" was used for both fountains
>>712853534i thought the lobby fountain was created from leakage caused by the atrium fountain
>>712854104Oh, there was a buildup in this scene. Fat middle-aged divorced loser sat right next to them and pushed them together.
>>712854094>>712853089Let us know when you finish + post proof
Why is Toby being so secretive about what Ralsei is? I get not revealing it early on, but we are all fairly sure its Kris's headband, and Ralsei revealed so much in 3 and 4, but not how he travels between dark worlds. Is it a red herring and he's actually the knife, or something else?
>>712850682So we 100% agree on this? That Noelle is going to be the angel of death and the finale boss? I think the Toby Fox spoiler puzzle also included Noelle pointing(snoyjacking) at the wings
>>712853591My theory is there's some sort of dark river or dark lake underneath the town that the bunker is directly connected to, it's what the dark fountains are actually connected to, and Ralsei is able to navigate it to find the dark world the gang is in.
>>712853045nah, it was kino.
>>712854145you already gave them to seam if you taled to him dumbass
>>712853646the problem is that the fanbase is retarded
>>712853790>"p- p- p- pajee-">EXPLODES from the majesty of looking upon my PALE RAPIST form
>>712853672Am I the only one that doesn't really blame Carol for her reaction to this scene? I have no doubt in my heart that she's the meanest, ice cold BITCH in all of Hometown, but she came home to what was essentially a stranger putting her dirty mitts all over one of the last precious keepsakes of her missing eldest daughter. And it was locked up in a room that nobody else is supposed to get into, in her house where the things she cares for are kept strictly there. I'm surprised she didn't scream her head off.
>>712854112I wonder if there were Kriselle shippers back in chapter 1, before it really established Kris and Noelle's relationship in 2
>>712854165It's ok anon, if you get bogged down on things you missed out on you will repeat the cycle until your deathbed. Also, media shows romanticized and idealized versions of real life experiences
>>712854237Oh yeah, i thought i got something, my bad
>>712853718Didn't read the post award. Flowey is talking to Chara. Chara is talking to Frisk. The anon straight up put that in his post.
>>712853672>Woah guys you're so BTFO by her->Er, trying to turn Susie into a replacement for her older sisterI'm going to fucking say it. Noelle's interest in Susie is a mix of Eros and Storge.
She desires her as a sex object and lusts after her as protection from her shit home life.
Neither of which are the kind of love you build a truly healthy relationship off of.
Susie and Kris has an aspect of Philia as well making it a more rounded romance. They're not just hankering for some kisses, they actually understand each other on some level.
Noelle does not 'get' Susie.
And you can just cope about that given Noelle's way of talking to Susie in the house scene is
>Slag off mutual friend>Say the ride on t he wheel meant nothing spaghetti-style>Talk about her tail when it's such a sensitive topicChew on it.
>>712853976Oh, my mistake!
It's The Last of Undertale 2!
>>712854231What are acorns?
>>712852803He's just an observer running an experiment
Show him the variables, that is the purpose of his presence
He is not in the world itself
>>712852832But Dess is barely even mentioned outside of the Holidays.
>>712854138if you backtrack to the first sanctuary, you can find the statue'd second sanctuary guys chilling out around there, too.
Susie isn't in love with Kris because she doesn't know what love is. She isn't in love with Noelle either she genuinely is clueless.
>>712854172>or maybe the main fountain just spills a bit out and this manifests as a mini-fountain?this part. it's weird and unintuitive. look at how much headcanon you've had to write to make it work, both fountains are the same but also different its weird.
my bigger issue though is that it feels like the game gave gerson a sendoff with susie finding his dust and writing the letter to alvin and the boss fight with the dead version of him. and then it just goes back on it at the last moment to bail the heroes out of an unwinnable situation. just didn't work for me.
When will Toby answer the question that burns in everyone's mind?
Does Noelle's nose glow?
>>712854290I feel like Carol is a red herring
cold, a bit mean but well intentioned
>>712853895Your IQ is too low to get it
>>712854374I don't remember any of this happening in my run, wtf?
>>712854401please play the game before posting retarded shit thanks
>>712850696>Susie wants to be with NoelleLiterally false as the only time she wanted to go to her place was to investigate the shellter. She didn't have problem just make Noelle waiting while she dates Kris
>Noelle dismiss KrisOnly partly true in normal route, but even then it's more that Susie is a huge distraction because she trigger her Dess memories. Everything Susie does is what Decemeber did. The trauma is so strong, it made Berdly win a spelling bee against Noelle and pretty much created an entire Berdly bakstory
>>712853785>7 years of build up in the shitterThe only reason it barely holds up is because the best character in the game is there, in general it's about as story raping as the constant dykery being shoved down your throat
>>712853592You are a real one ... (but he is in fact, getting railed in college)
asriel staying up all night watching girls gone wild trailers on tenna
>>712854303>>712854165don't forget this includes social media
never trust anything you read on the internet
ever
>>712854339That doesn't make any sense
>>712854475Gay sex is not cheating
>>712854290I like the idea that she's the Anti-Toriel, an evil witch on the outside but actually an incredible mom and bro-tier on the inside
>>712854398Oh I gotta check this now.
If they've just been de-statue'd that's actually neat
>>712854425No but her clit does
>>712854401Maybe it's better that way.
>>712850967Anon, entire house section is
>Susie and Noelle talking about Kris>Players finding clues about Dess and why Noelle is coping with SusieThis isn't a scene meant to ship them
>>712853591>>712853941Ralsei is plushie, Knight planted him at supply closet to assist Kris and Noelle. Knight was the one who carried him between the Dark Worlds, except for chapter 3 where it was Kris who brought him over.
>Maybe its actually Susie who is carrying Ralsei? He can't be anything that belongs to Susie, he's too closely connected to Dreemurrs.
Making the goats gay is the ultimate Scotsman propaganda trick, I can't believe no one called this out.
>>712852635you seem to be confused, getting locked up was all part of his keikaku
>>712854425Only around Susie
These threads really do remind me that Susie is 99% of the story's writing problems but fusing a manic pixie dream girl with almost every tomboy stereotype under the sun makes /v/ completely turn a blind eye
>>712854416rule of cool is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS better than muh logical consistency
>>712853045t. woman who doesnt get it
>>712854451The one guy talking about alchemy is out in the open towards the start of the third sanctuary.
You have to backtrack to the other philosopher surrounded by what used to be statues to hear him talk about it.
The other one is just one of the random river person lines from undertale.
Acorns are the key to all this. Where the forest would grow.
>>712854573yeah, they're de-statue'd. there's even a few new enemy encounters with them (probably so that you can't miss recruiting them), too.
>>712854614Isn't that rape? Susie clearly isn't consenting.
>Sleepover with Susie
>Diner date with Susie
>Hanging out at the lake with Susie
>Fucking around during Church mass with Susie
Chapter 3+4 was straight-up murder for Suselle fags.
>>712854582Ok, you got me. When I do the let's play this is how I'm gonna cope.
Thanks for the plausible deniability, I really appreciate it.
Kriselle isn't going to happen because Asriel and Dess are going to reunite and fall in love again and then Noelle and Kris will just be siblings in law and would never date because it'd be weird for inlaws to date.
I hope toby has the balls to just make all the relationship shit fall through, feel like it just distracts from the experience which I hope isn't the point. Most I want is just noelle/Kris to be friends and everyone to bro up in the later chapters.
>>712854165its true no matter what you feel about it
>>712854624*2nd sanctuary
>>712854616NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T INSULT MY MARY SUE(sie)
>>712854475But Asriel is a chubby guy
>>712853856Romance is a lot more interesting and genuine when you actually know the person somewhat and you share the same kind of autism
>>712851559Why would he want to tease Susie leaning and almost kissing Kris in chapter 3 if he wanted to make it platonic? Why not remove that scene? Instead, he removed the Susie plays with Noelles hair because he has enough of building this ship that he meant to sink next chapter
>>712854575>Noelle the red Backsided Reindeer>Had a very shiny Ass>And if you ever saw it>You might even give it a grasp
>>712854695This. To me, none of it have value.
>>712854598>Lock up the SOUL>I'm still the player that exists in the real world and can do anything>They are still video game characters that can't do anything but follow the game scriptYeah, Jevil is right.
>>712854687>and then Noelle and Kris will be siblingsJackpot
>>712853379>>712853771Jesus Christ, how horrifying
>>712853591>Kris has never been to a Dark World without Susie Can't you visit the dark world alone after chapter 1?
Also ralsei has some obvious connection to asriel (due to sharing his face), and it would be unusual for susie to carry something like that with her.
It's in the realm of "technically possible", I suppose. More likely than the plush theory, at least
>>712854416i think you're just being autistic
>>712854714this but unironically
>>712854714a female character being likeable does not make her a mary sue. It's kind of like the opposite of what that means.
>>712854616>fusing a manic pixie dream girl with almost every tomboy stereotype under the sunBut that's a god-tier combo
>>712853591I saw an interesting theory the other day that he's the Soul itself. While I doubt it, it's been stuck in my head trying to think of if it would work
>>712854695>Most I want is just noelle/Kris to be friendsthey're something else.
>>712854616is it really that easy to string furfaggots along? might just rip this shit off for a quick buck in the future
>>712853906I think everyone knows Kris will end up going to the festival with Berdly
>>712854616You're really not wrong, anon. And I think that's a problem with a lot of things currently. Maybe there should be a word for it. "Queer laundering"?
>>712854687This but with Alphys, Asgore and Krusie instead.
niggas won't shut up about the guitar scene (intended story path you can't avoid) but are awful quiet about the diner date (have to go out of your way to see it)
remember, it doesn't count if it's FORCED
>>712854416>and the boss fight with the dead version of himRalsei literally calls it a statue, and it is a statue, because when you backtrack to the study one of the statues is missing.
>>712854624We get the line about Noelle and Kris (and Asriel and Dess) playing in the forest past the graveyard.
The forest past the graveyard is where the shelter is.
The shelter that is built in a clearing in the woods, ie; where the forest WOULD grow.
>>712854672I married my neighbor a couple years after first taking her to mass, there is no greater fated moment than taking a cute girl to mass with your family. It may as well be arranged marriage. Toriel 100% knew what what she was doing.
>>712853981source? this is such a good noelle
>>712854616I still think about the fact that Catti turned into a 100% gagshit character that got tossed aside and broke all ties with Kris just because she's the strawman character against Susie, it's like people don't wanna admit that Susie makes nearly the entire cast become drooling retards for some reason.
First one done, now to get to the end of the section with Noelle alone.
>>712854583>no you don't get it guys while kris made a dark world to distract kris and susie the knight decided to go out of her way to pick up ralsei and carry him to kris' house risking getting caught and aiding their escape for literally no reason it's 5d chess
>>712854840Even if true, rn Kris is being avoidant even in the snowgrave routes and there is very clearly a reason that will be addressed later because he doesn't dislike her. Just have them be friends for now, hopefully from whatever shit happens in ch 5.
>>712854841Don't forget the reptillian bits. Your pixie dream girl tomboy has to be some sort of reptile anthro.
>https://youtu.be/byUCuhB8r5Q
>Pain
It's going to be okay, right? I only want Noelle to get stronger...
>>712854842Once again I remind that so far Kris can scream twice in this game. First time it's after he was almost murdered alone in a basement and then saw a horrible revelation considering his own status as [Heart] on a [Chain].
Second time it's if you make him tell Ralsei he's going to festival with Berdly, and he screams harder.
inb4 Ralsei is the memory of Asriel and by extension the yearning that Kris has for things to go back to how they were and Dess/Knight is the force trying to bring those old times by creating Dark Fountains and engulfing the world in their idealized version of reality and the heroes are supposed to be the antithesis to that and let it all go by sealing the fountains (and Ralsei) forever.
I LOVE TV AND I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH ONE!!
>>712854781the closet is locked after you seal the fountain
there isn't an explanation for who unlocks it the next day, either kris was lying to (you) or the knight/ carol unlocked it overnight
>>712853976Based Asgore interupting Suselle slop
>>712854976>assuming Catti wasn't townie fodder in the first placengmi
>>712854353It really is going to shape up to be a big sis replacement, she misses Dess and can't face reality
It's going to crumble
>>712854841Literally yes, and that's probably what Toby himself figured out too. You barely have to spend any time at all looking at furry shit to understand the buttons to push. Superficial BDSM shit? Check. Tomboys femboys? Check. Obvious pairings with size difference alpha beta 'dude animal kingdom' dynamics etc etc.
>>712854510>Flowey straight up says "See you soon, Chara">The soul sold is blatantly Frisk's as Chara takes over her body.It's simple.
>>712855007not my problem
a rape's a rape
>>712853672Bruh the entire guitar scene is just Toby Fox telling you "DESS YOU FUCKING RETARD SHIPPER, SHES PROJECTING HER SISTER ONTO SUSIE"
>>712854980Sure some great reading comprehension you got there. I told you that Kris brought him over in chapter 3.
>>712855107>makes Noelle and Susie get closer togetherbased
>I expected something unimportant to happen
>it didn't happen
>this means that the story is bad
for me it's the fact that the game is carried on the back of Ralsei and Susie interactions but you can tell that dumbfucks just headswap Ralsei with either Kris or Noelle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUo_XRCIUHQ
>>712855063>kris finds going to the festival with birdly more distressing that nearly getting gored and forced to confront a very real possibility of what will happen to him if he tries to go against what carol wants that's both funny and sad
>>712855148fair play n all, just hope it doesn't end up feeling too superficial
>>712855145Honestly, even if that happens there's no reason Noelle can't get what she wants.
Susie'd probably happily be the big sister she no longer has, given she seems to be enjoying having friends and shit.
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>>712853045One problem Chapter 4's writing does have is how much it hinges on the player having found an optional boss fight.
It makes sense if you do find it. But if you don't?
>Susie basically chases around a strange figure that looks nothing like Gerson, weirdly convinced it is Gerson despite never having seen him with his armour on>Starts pretending this character fighting her totally has to be him, despite previously believing Gerson is too old and frail to fight and would supposedly still believe that if she never had his optional boss fight>Green soul gimmick's return comes out of nowhere because you missed the fight properly re-introducing it, feels awkward, though the fight is still cool>The creepy reveal it isn't Gerson fall flat, because again, without having seen him with his armour, it didn't look like him to begin withAnd yeah the thing you say is a Deus Ex Machina ends up feeling a bit like one mainly because Gerson actually being a strong fighter was never established without his boss fight.
>>712855218>"DESS YOU FUCKING RETARD SHIPPER, SHES PROJECTING HER SISTER ONTO SUSIE"holy YUMMAROO
i LOVE incest
>>712855230that literally just doesn't happen retard holy shit
go back and check kris' inventory at the end of chapter 2
>>712855145>expecting any subtletly out of the pair that makes the game's writing noticeably drag down everytime it's on screen
>>712855190You are insane if you think that isn't going to have repercussions
haven't played any of these games and don't know shit but after reading through this thread, all i have to ask is:
is this what schizophrenia, that sometimes slips slightly towards sanity to become arcane esoteric knowledge, looks like?
>>712855310it's also very hard to miss and you get tasked with exploring around either way, you're almost guaranteed to find it.
>>712854080Yeah anyone who beat the knight and titan isn't going to think they're that much of a threat now. Good thing the real threat is now the prophecy.
>>712855310Yeah but it's pretty hard to miss Gerson, he's literally the hub of the main path and the first thing that come out of even a half-assed nose around is
>Hey kids, you want a really fucking sick weapon?
>>712855390yea the repercussion is me having more fun than in the normal route
>>712855419I missed the Gerson fight the first time. I completely forgot about the golden piano
>>712855409The knight got off better than the titans because you barely beat it, you only get it to about 60% hp and then it BTFOs both sidekicks
The titans on the other hand have been established as a joke, doesn't help that the bossfight is easy as shit
>>712855403Depends on whether or not the anon knows what an acorn is.
>>712855372He doesn't have knife in there either. But he brought Ralsei from school during the bathroom break instead anyway.
>but he didn't had timeThis game often skips time without fade to black. Movie marathon actually happened even if it looked like Susie fell asleep instantly. Toriel and Susie almost finished preparing the pie while Kris was out.
>>712855409>Good thing the real threat is now the prophecythis is what saves it for me. the whole hopeless predestination thing was executed very well.
>>712855310If you somehow miss the axe you're a bumbling retard and deserve to understand less about the story
>>712855459For now. I don't think snowgrave unaborted is going to go past ch 6, even ch 5
>>712853672I think the message is that not every "cute character bonding is valid". Toby does that with Suselle and SansxToriel.
Mindless shippers just see TorielxSans content while actual point behind it that it break Dreemur family apart and will most likely cause Asgore to do something stupid next chapter.
Same with Susell, its building it to point out what Chapter 2 LITERALLY spelled out in the mini game with Kris and Noelle explored the town - D-E-C-E-M-B-E-R. She's so traumatised and obsessed with her sister, she has December month on every page on her calendar. And she fucking made Susie LARP as December like some Norman Bates larping as own mother shit. Those two ships aren't suppose to be cute and vaid. Only Kruise is and that why Toby insert entire plotline about piano.
>>712855145That's what you would think if it were written well
>>712855585>I don't think [headcanon]Yes you better shouldn't.
>>712853434>>712853672>>712853976>suselle fags have been reduced to still frames and ignoring other things that happen in the gamelol, lmao.
everything between susie and noelle in the manor was the definition of forced, it was intentionally drawn out and made awkward .
the same chapter also gave us divine krusie scenes.
the festival is going to murder suselle clowns when kris and susie act like gremlins throughout the whole thing while noelle keeps getting sidelined.
>>712855502>The titans on the other hand have been established as a jokeWell, to be fair, we caught one during birth and Gerson still had to bail us out.
>>712855636SansxToriel definitely feels like it was holding a mirror up to shippers.
Come to think of it
>It's not real if it's forced
Couldn't the same be said of Noelle insisting Susie twangle around on the guitar?
>>712855502>it BTFOs both sidekicksthat was kris. look at where the slash comes from and how ralsei reacts.
>>712855564>schizo headcanon requires characters to do a fuck ton of random shit off screen>all of which requires essentially predestination tier knowledge about when ralsei will be needed and when he won't>with no indication given to the player that this has happened>for reasons that actively work against kris' and the knight's plans>so that ralsei can be le heckin wholesome earthbound referenceok bud
>>712855671>Kris almost at his breaking point>Noelle soul might as well be beyond repairIt's called paying attention. It's like we don't even play the same game.
>>712855758Sorry Toby had his yuri goggles on and wanted to imitate TLOU2
Anyone defending the titan fight is a complete and utter mongoloid because Gerson is literally nothing special, he was just a writer and teacher in lifea and yet in the dark world he's somehow strong enough to BTFO one with minimal effort cause he's old and people thought he was a cool guy in life
If turtle tolkien who has never even picked up a weapon in his actual life can defeat a titan what would stop, say, fucking dark world asgore from stopping the roaring on his own?
>>712855581So the story deserves to make less sense itself? What do you have against the story itself?
SHUT THE FUCK UP
WHERE IS BERDLY
NOTHING ELSE MATTERS
WHERE IS MY SON
>shipping autism has started to overtake actual discussion
see you all in a year I guess
>>712854616Second playthrough will be without Susie, trust the plan
>>712855765The slash is named after the knight in the files, anyone thinking it was kris is some retarded reddit theorist who probably didin't even play the game
>>712855672>the festival is going to murder suselle clowns when kris and susie act like gremlins throughout the whole thing while noelle keeps getting sidelined.To be fair, I am rather wary about festival because it may be a repeat of manor scene - Kris removes heart and fucks off to do some sinister shit, leaving Susie and Noelle alone. On the other hand, they don't have any agenda at the festival unlike at the manor, and Ralsei did ask him to have fun with Susie.
>>712855830Gerson is the only person to survive an encounter with Chara and you believe he is nothing?
>>712855310Doesn't the statue laugh just like Gerson? That would convince Susie it's him.
>>712855830and what's special about susie or kris?
why are they so strong in the dark world?
>>712855802>I think I am right and you are wrong because I stated so.Peak reading, thanks sherlock you better be hired for the next game.
>>712855765Does Ralsei just forget that Kris pulls a Judas on them?
>>712855830The Dark World is partially based on perception.
Susie and Kris are so powerful because they're dumbfuck kids and as we all know, when you're a teenager you're a god-damn immortal in your own mind.
It's literally the Weak Aura, Strong Aura meme as a rule of reality.
>>712855875Remember the schizotheory that "Completed without issue" achievement meant finishing the chapter without Susie?
>>712855830Bro, the pen is mightier than the sword.
>>712853976Noelle literally just recreates her sister. Its creepy as fuck if they actually kiss.
>>712855927Different game, different world, different rules
He can tell chara to go choke on a dick in Undertale because shopkeepers are untouchable, burgerpants does the same
>>712855830well, to be fair, even gerson wouldn't have been able to beat it without the SOUL.
>>712855852this shit is like the ocean thread tides have been constantly changing, relax
>>712855852it all returns to homestuck
>>712855787Ralsei works with Kris and Knight, you retard. He never fingers Knight as antagonist and defends her in front of Susie.
>The 2nd voice in the Intro
>W.D. Gaster
>The Vessel
>The Shadow Crystals
>The Eggs
>The Knight's confirmed identity
>Dess's status
>Undyne's status
>What did Asgore do to get kicked off the police force/why is Toriel so mad at him
>Asgore's Black Shard
>FRIEND
>The Bunker
>The road blocked by police tape
>The song coming from the sea
>Constant imagery of waves and tides
>The true/final prophecy
>The red dot in Weird!Noelle
>Carol's fixation on [HeartShapedObjects]
>Kris without the SOUL
>The Titans
>The Angel
>Ralsei's Light World object
>Goners
>Sword Route & Kris's extra damage on Tenna
>Slain/Purified counter
>Swoon
>Kris getting knighted
>Kris and Ralsei hiding things from Susie
>"Enjoying the Youthful Days"
>Kris in Art Therapy
>8-Bit Kris still roaming around
>Blank textbox & rain stopping on Weird Route
>Pink and Yellow imagery
>Extra Kris in the Holiday mansion
>Flowey motif in bitroots and roots songs
>ERAM
>Kris's implied intrusive thoughts
>Onionsan disappearance
>Toby's fever dream in general
>Shipfags think all of this combined is less interesting than "who does Kris fuck"
No wonder shippers are so angry all the time, they're putting 100% of their investment in the 1% of the content
>>712855830Sneed about it
You guys keep saying Toby is a yurifag but wasn't there only one yuri relationship (undyne/alphys) in Undertale? Along with a gay relationship (gay muscle knights) and some straight ones (dog couple, asgore/toriel)?
For the people saying Noelle is projecting missing her sister onto Susie, how do we know Dess is like Susie? I get her being obssessed with her lost sister and giving her guitar to Susie can be evidence to support this, but what about Dess' personality?
Also I've read theories that actually Noelle is projecting her missing Kris' scary antics onto Susie, does that hold any weight?
>>712855830don't care, get dualbuster'd
>>712855830Dark World Gerson is strong enough to be a superboss where you can't actually beat him, just survive long enough to cut two hairs.
>>712856008Don't insult Burgerpants you sick fuck, he's ten times the man you'll ever be
>>712855997Togurt needs his yuri
If you unequip armor in ch2 and later, do enemies oneshot you?
>>712856059>asgore/toriel)Describing Asgore/Toriel as a relationship is like describing the Hindenburg disaster as a 'Successful flight'
People complaining about Gerson are the same people who complained when Eru intervened and made Gollum fall into the lava.
>>712856059And Alphys didn't become female until late in development. Most likely Toby decided that nerdy incel getting tomboy girlfriend would be too on the nose.
>>712854303No, if you missed out on childhood love you should KILL YOURSELF NOOOOOOWWWWW
>>712855053There is no good end for the doe
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>>712853045It's a perfectly fine Deus ex machina. My problem is that it kind of undercuts bittersweet moments like parting with Gerson, finding out that he's actually dead and leaving the letter for Alvin. It felt like an actual farewell to the character and his return just makes these less impactful
https://youtu.be/sbzmYjE49N4
https://youtu.be/j1fPfxLYg-w
>>712856150They were married and had a kid and we get that VHS tape recording of them being a happy couple.
>>712856046you forgot
>EQUIP CHARfrom the Tenna textures
>>712856075Noelle's mom is scary. Does that mean she wants to fuck her mom?
>>712855919>The slash is named after the knight in the filesKrisknighters getting the final laugh at the end of all this.
>>712856165Gerson's intervention would be comparable to the eagles escorting the fellowship halfway and then dropping them off for no real reason
>>712855063>First time it's after he was almost murdered alone in a basement and then saw a horrible revelation considering his own status as [Heart] on a [Chain].He screamed there?
>>712856031>ok but have you considered [even more schizobabble]Ralsei NEVER works with the knight against the party
When you defeat the knight only kris kneels, whereas ralsei iss fainted
you're taking ralsei warning Susie not to fuck around (because of the prophecy) and warping the pieces to sustain a headcanon that already doesn't fit together
>>712856075its generally a defining character trait (or rather a flaw) that noelle is constantly seeking for her nostalgia to be recreated. whether its projecting dess onto susie or missing how kris used to be
so to answer your question id say it goes both ways/could be either
>>712856175I'm trying not to
>>712855956Do you really think the black screen with noelles soul cracking is in any way a good thing. When has a black screen with the soul getting fucked up ever meant something good.
>>712856059>dog coupleI forgot why but I vaguely recall people getting weirdly asshurt at that one for some reason
>>712856167>Most likely Toby decided that nerdy incel getting tomboy girlfriend would be too on the nose.That's what gets me. Toby understands optics too well.
>>712856046Deltarune's story seems to be a revisation of things Undertale touched upon. Between the Endogeny reference and Everyman being a thing in the Light World, I'm waiting for some real True Lab x BlackSpace fuckery with Deltarune's amalgamate equivalent, whatever they might be.
>>712856261If you make him say that he's not ok when Asriel asks after Spamton the fag goat comments on the fact that he's yelling
>>712856075We know that Dess was a tomboy and a troublemaker. That being said, Susie's personality is of no concern to Noelle, she just sees what she wants in her. Every attempt from Susie to tell something about herself is always ignored by Noelle.
>>712854695This is literally the best outcome, and that's why it won't happen
That is the mar on the story
I'm going to let Berdly sodomize Kris and I'm going to kill Ralsei and no one is going to stop me.
>>712856205>It's a perfectly fine Deus ex machina. My problem is that it kind of undercuts bittersweet moments like parting with Gerson, finding out that he's actually dead and leaving the letter for Alvin.Honestly? I'm fine with that personally.
Not everything has to be bittersweet in life, sometimes things can just be sweet (insert guitar riff here)
It fits with the chapters idea of carving your own path, by all rights in a traditional story Gerson would've been gone leaving the heroes to face the danger alone without the mentor.
Him turning up again was a nice twist on things and showed that everything doesn't have to fit the story/tropes.
>>712854687This is true because Krusie is the one being forshadowed.
>Kris/Ralsei is creepy because Ralsei looks like Asriel>Kriselle is weird because Asriel and Dess romancing would create 2 brothers hooking up with 2 sisters>Suselle is even creepier because its Noelle hooking up with not-Dess>Susie/ralsei and anything with Berdly is just a meme going nowhere
>>712856316Me too, don't know why
>>712856075Noelle was a tough tomboy who was "one of the dudes" she literally could not be any closer to Susie
These shippers are pissing me off.
>>712856296And because you decided, it going to end right after chapter 5 big boss.
>soul getting fuckedYou missed the whole point, congrats.
>>712856354what a horrible thing you have just shared with us
>>712856350Why do you think Kris is they/them really? Toby made himself untouchable, anyone who even tries to say "straightwashing" will be ripped apart by an angry mob of trannies.
>>712856421Oh, That . . .
>>712855386>>712855656Let me dream
Stop handing troons wins
I feel like retarded smelly jeets only now realized Deltarune exists and hijacked these threads for shipwars
>>712856205man 12am is such a great piece, it carries a lot of weight with it
>>712856353Oh right, after the fight.
>>712856258I guess if you factor where the story is currently at narratively, yeah. But you get my point right?
>>712856046>Kris's extra damage on TennaQRD?
>>712855310>>712855581Does Susie's title stay the same if you don't get the axe?
>>712856362>susie talks about susiezilla during the ferris wheel scene>noelle talks about the tail>susie tells her to explicitly ignore the tail>noelle brings up the tail twice in the light world while completely forgetting susiezilla
>>712856434susie does jokingly push kris/ ralsei a couple of times but i think it's just supposed to be her teasing the both of them
Kris is gonna blow his brains out at the end of the pacifist route because nobody actually loves him and everyone cucks him and he's a weird loner chudcel that can't have sex
(All the signs pointing to Toriel, Susie, Noelle, Ralsei, etc liking him are lies and they're just saying it so he feels better but he knows the truth)
Weird route is the only objectively correct route because we force Kris to do as nature intended, take what is his and not wait around for permission and approval from people that don't care if he lives or dies
>>712854891Pretty much. Same with this scene. Its only visible for people who PLAY THE GAME and get S score. They are being rewarded with real romance and forshadowing for not being filthy casual who just look up main storyline with Suselle and say "UwU so cuute". Toby will crush those niggas next chapter when Dess storyline will transform Noelle into angel of death
>>712856509Whats going on anon tell me what's wrong with my masterplan
>>712856584he leaked info to (You) and Kris really doesn't like that
>>712856584If you overhear 8bit Tenna talk about his deal with Kris the little freak gets mad with him
In general Tenna's affection over Kris seems to be entirely one sided
>>712856584kris normally deals half damage to tenna, but if you play all the mantles kris starts doing like 3x damage instead
>>712856451Kinda ironic since starwalker ends up in a throuple
>>712856451we'll get back on track next thread
i think a trauma thread is in order
>>712854718I can't believe asriel turned to Linkara.
>>712856687I don't recall what was requested by Kris here, if it was mentioned.
Why did Kris climb up to his window at the end of chapter 4.
Was he gonna sneak out?
Or was he gonna kill himself?
>>712856205completely agree
>>712856786>Or was he gonna kill himself?It's like a 4ft drop
>>712842863 (OP)No and I'm happy many new fans are correctly calling him a guy, It's causing twitter and reddit trannies to seethe
>>712856786i don't think kris could kill himself from that low down even if he tried, his house is kinda tiny
>>712856046It would at least make sense if the shipping was just an accessory to what they largely like in this game, but these dudes genuinely ONLY care about the romance that they could find basically everywhere if they just watched anime
>>712856764he's purposefully stalling them with the boards until the knight and/or undyne can get there
>>712856709I wouldn't say that because The Original Starwalker asserts himself immediately and wins their love.
Unlike Susie or Noelle just being teenaged retards taking forever to smash their pussies against each other.
>>712856786Yes, he was going to kill himself by jumping from the first floor repeatedly.
>>712856614And then there's them discussing Dragon Blazers in the basement. Susie shares some rather traumatic memories from her past (her stealing a videogame, her unlocking Evil Route because she did not understood friendship back then) and Noelle instead goes "faha I want to watch you play videogames!"