Girls don't play video games
She literally does though
>>713038550 (OP)Why did he start jacking off
>>713038550 (OP)I will make her a true gamer once I control her body
>Asriel was ashamed of being a Yoshi main
Why? What's wrong with playing Yoshi?
>>713038613>She literally doeno shit
>>713038747And he switched to an even gayer main
>>713038550 (OP)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtoazIdZDmw
you will never meet a meek gamergirl with a danger fetish like noelle at 16 years of age
>>713038550 (OP)girls play nortubel
>>713038747playing yoshi means you're gay
>>713038747never heard of the yoshi player stereotypes in mario kart/party? hahaposting neither? its red flag for being super gay
So is the whole gimmick with this game being that the player character is resentful of and knows that he's under the control of the player?
>>713038930I want a full mantel game, Toby.
>>713038989>>713038980>>713038872Nothing he does will deny the reality
Boys don't play video games either.
>>713038747Men who main Yoshi like men
And there's nothing wrong with that
ywn spoon Asriel on the couch while he plays Yoshi
feels bad
>>713039082Where's the cock?
>>713039045It's incredibly hot
>>713038550 (OP)They do, they just don't care about gameplay.
>>713038550 (OP)>threads are getting auto sagedThis is just sad.
>>713038550 (OP)ew. did toby accept all the gay shipping trash from undertale? I did expect better of him.
>>713039420I actually don't think this thread is auto-saging.
>>713039420The only thing I hate in the weird route, is how the friendship between Kris and Susie ends up suffering from it.
>>713039427Anon, Undertale already had canon gay shipping on it
>>713039427weird route is meant to be a dark satire of the player forcing their shipping desires onto the characters
but of course this place eats it up
>>713039536We both know it's just a matter of time at this point.
>>713039553Toby is an insufferable sperg and he refuses to just let us make Kris do what's best for everyone
>>713039578I'd agree with you if it didn't show Noelle's deep feelings for Kris resurfacing. If it were TRULY like you said, she wouldn't be into it.
>>713039578Yuri is shit and yurifags deserve to suffer
>>713039045That's not the "whole gimmick" but it's part of it.
It's kind of acknowledging a huge blind spot with Undertale, where the whole idea there was exploring how your actions affect the characters and the game world but your own player character was practically a blank slate, to the point that you wouldn't even know they were supposed to be their own person until the end of the game.
In Detlarune, you know from the start that you've taken control of some kid and that they have their own life, personality and goals which might come into conflict with yours.
>>713038550 (OP)Iโm a girl and Iโve sunk hundreds of hours into Cat Petterz 2!
>>713039420remember to post nsfw images on autosage if you're [gay] like me
>>713039767Damn I never really realized how much the art has improved
>>713039790I'm about to sink hundreds of hours into your cat if you catch my drift
>>713038613>Susie is an epic retro video game nerd just like Noelle because uhhhh Toby thinks it's hot and the plot demands itit's so tiring
>>713039668Let's have some HOPE.
>>713039092>Susie calls Ralsei and Asriel "strawberry and vanilla nerds">haven't been able to stop thinking about sucking on Ralsei's strawberry candy cane flavored horns sinceThanks Toby
>>713040001>retro game nerd>games they literally played years ago as younger children
>>713040001Noelle plays retro games because she's a rich nerd, Susie played retro games because she was poor and only had old consoles
>>713040001It's fantasy, anon. Which means he can write the girl characters as if they were actual people instead of worthless, vapid cardboard cutouts devoid of any personality or original thoughts.
>>713038815>>713038828>can't find the drawing of noelle and asriel being fucking autists going 'haha' over yoshi while kris looks on in disgustGOD DAMN IT
>>713040001So where did Susie get time to play vidya while being destiute as shit?
>>713038747They found the porn
>>713040212>waahhh i'm ANGRY i don't have a daughter as FREE FUCKMEATkekkerwhoopy
>>713040212>worthless, vapid cardboard cutouts devoid of any personality or original thoughts.But Noelle is right there!
>>713040253She stole it what do you mean
>>713040212>Which means he can write the girl characters as if they were actual people instead of worthless, vapid cardboard cutouts devoid of any personality or original thoughts.then why doesn't he
>>713040253Dude, your Gameboys?
>>713039767And presumably carrying on from this, Kris being a gender neutral name and the use of pronouns instead of just making a male/female character is to make it simpler to write a character without having to make separate character sprites and dialogue to address this?
>>713040303you need therapy
>>713040253She's a foster kid, one of her homes had an old game console for her to play
>>713040379>>713040342>susie is literally the "steals someone's game and claims it was hers all along" cliche>this is our protagonistwhat the fuck, toby? must have been nice being a rich kid who could just buy another one
What your bedroom look like if you opened a dark fountain in it?
>>713040212>worthless, vapid cardboard cutouts devoid of any personality or original thoughts.(best not tell him what real women are, folks!)
What will the twist be
Why is the Knight collecting specific people
What is Susie
>>713040451He was used up
Watching streamers play this and having to constantly correct themselves when they call Kris a guy so their troon audience doesn't shoot them for a hate crime is fucking hilarious
>>713040001>RetroGame was new when they played it, anon.
What, you think these kids are zoomers or something?
>>713040421I know this is supposed to be sad but this might be the cutest rendition of Susie I've seen so far.
>>713040473kek based tenna
>>713040481Susie Megalovania
Undertale
The Dragon(who is also the girl)
>>713040529dude Noelle makes an among us joke they're absolutely zoomers
the 202X date on an unused manual graphic is a bit flimsy evidence due to it being unused, yeah, but this confirms it
>>713040451>>713040503It's an allegory for sexual abuse
A little confused, Kris has always had the Soul, and (we) hijacked it, right? It's implied that he's tore it out before.
>>713040460it's fine. we all knew a kid who did just that.
>>713040607They make an among us joke because gane released in the modern day.
The way it's framed makes it obvious that they have no idea what they said was funny
Why does Ralsei beg the Knight to stop, and beg him not to cause the Roaring? If the knight wanted to cause the Roaring they could just do it, clearly, they spend so much time just stalling and waiting around. Plus Ralsei already knows the ending, so what's the point of protesting?
Like there's no way the knight is actively trying to cause the roaring and the heroes are the only thing standing in their way. But Ralsei behaves as if this is the case. Maybe for the player's benefit?
>>713040517>Watching streamersGo back.
>>713040529the fuck it was new, noelle's ENTIRE THING is playing shitty old jarpigs just like toby did. the newest thing she mentions is the GBA in the hospital (already dated since catti has a modern smartphone) which is playing a port of an even older game.
This is the most fun Iโve had playing a video game in years.
I feel like a kid again, itโs so whimsical.
>>713040657Yeah, that's the gist of it. Maybe there's another "player"-like entity that's taken control of Kris the same way we are.
>>713040657Kris has had it for a while, yes - it would have been the cause of the major personality shift Noelle mentioned but it had to have happened before Susie arrived at the school. They've basically been keeping a disembodied human captive inside their body and the cage at the foot of their bed.
>>713040679And everyone fucking hated that kid, yet in the Delta Rune Video Game, everyone is on their knees sucking her dick.
>>713040529i was born in 2003 but my dad bought me an NES and i grew up playing mario and zelda and ducktales
because he was nostalgic for it and wanted me to also be nostalgic
>>713040729For what it's worth, Kris' phone certainly looks more like a regular smartphone rather than a flip phone or one of those old ass Nokia brinks.
>>713040563that just makes it sadder
>>713040451I really wonder where Snowkino will lead up too.
>>713040835Because the game's all about changing her as a person to no longer be that thieving fuck.
When Tenna said "You know, we still got that cowboy program... The one your dad likes..." I was like "WOODY CONFIRMED LET'S GO"
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what the fuck
>>713040517Kris is canonically nonbinary. You are playing a woke DEI SJW game.
>>713040657>Kris has always had the SoulIt would be very strange if Kris didn't have a SOUL before we showed up
>and (we) hijacked it, right?That seems to be the case
It might be possible that Kris's original SOUL has been extracted somehow and replaced by us as some kind of foreign artificial SOUL, but that's just more questions and assumptions and we have no way of knowing at this point
>>713040869>i was born in 2003
>>713040607>the 202X date on an unused manual graphic is a bit flimsy evidence due to it being unused, yeah, but this confirms itI might give you that, but I think the date actually matters little in this instance. These Kids are clearly based on Toby's Childhood Experiences, which is expressed in them feeling more like Late-Millenial kids. The year the game takes place in would carry weight if they acted like Zoomers.
>>713040473What is this, a Tenna for ants?
Wait.
>>713040740>Plus Ralsei already knows the ending, so what's the point of protesting?Ralsei's whole thing is that he really doesn't want the prophecy to come true. So he's just desperately imploring the Knight to reconsider because he knows how this confrontation will end.
Maybe he knows that the Knight WILL cause the Roaring and he's trying to get her to realize that before it's too late. It's like trying to get the hound Garmr to not break free of its binds and begin Ragnarok.
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>>713038747Anyone else feel robbed by this question by the way? It asked what his favourite was, not who he mained. Tenna even confirms the green lizard was his favourite but he played sword magician because he was too embarrassed.
>>713040936>replying to bots
>>713040869Tell your dad to let you play some genesis games
Or don't.
I'm not your dad.
I'm kinda thinking that the phonecall at the end of Ch4's a red herring, like Ch1 where Kris pulled out a knife to eat a pie.
Willing to bet the "Promise" is something completely innocent, both routes.
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>>713038550 (OP)>fag furry persona game where you play as the best friend with no game>no one on 4chan is posting fatlus memes
>>713040657Honestly, we don't know yet if the game acknowledges the player as a thing in this universe or if we're merely controlling something akin to his emotions, but the fandom already ran with this headcanon.
>>713039767I guess Frisk just really didn't give a shit what the player asked her to do whether it was be a doormat pacifist or personally murder everyone in sight
Never spoke out of line or threw us in a trash can, what a much better host than Kris.
>>713040917Let it go, Woodybro. It's over. Cowboy Mike exists because of you.
>>713040894Why are we being told this stuff after her character arc is already done, then? Pick a fucking side, Toby, you don't get to have your mean girl bully bitch AND your heart of gold tradwife bait. It just makes the writing schizophrenic.
>bro I was CRYING and SHITTING and Toriel comforted me and that's why I said your mother is a good woman but also didn't really care because I was gonna bite your face off Kris, haha isn't that funny?ABSOLUTE DOGSHIT
>>713041032I never said I was smart.
>>713040869>I was born in 2003
>>713040835literally everyone outside of kris and toriel hates susie
>>713041152and Noelle and Berdly and Ralsei and...
>>713041039>Remember Kris...>You Promised...>To pick up milk on your way back from the Darkworld. What gives, man?
>>713040953The passage of time...
>>713041025>Asriel was a fucking Fire Emblem fagEw
>>713041034the other big nostalgic touchpoint for me was phantom hourglass and pokemon heartgold for the DS
guess it makes sense i'd end up a DRfag, enjoying a pixel art RPG is one of my oldest memories.
>>713039767The player controlling Frisk simply isn't actually part of Undertale's narrative as is Kris being puppetered by an foreign SOUL.
>>713041039whoever first typed "red herring" in these threads did irreversible damage to their collective unconscious
>>713040869stop being younger than me... please stop. it didn't use to be this way... everyone on the internet used to be older than me... why is this happening?
what the FUCK is his endgame
>>713041113I don't see how that makes Susie's characterization shitty. She was an awful person before she discovered the Dark World because she put up a tough front so that she wouldn't risk her trust being broken. Now, after finding friends that she can trust, she's more willing to show her authentic self.
Basically, she's a lot less likely to steal gameboys nowadays.
>>713041152People don't hate Susie, they're scared of her but she's mellowed out a lot since the adventures and other people are starting to notice
>>713041212Oh I more meant because genesis games are fun. Nostalgia No-Stalgia, it don't matter to me, fun's fun especially if you can share it with someone.
>>713041234Red herring is a common ass term
>>713040609You are missing the weird padlock from before you unlock Mike's room
>>713041113She bullied Kris because she was jealous he had such a loving mother figure (who he doesn't seem to appreciate) and she clearly doesn't, anon.
>>713041089Headcanon or not, Ralsei looks up at the 4th wall when Susie makes the comment during chapter 3 about Kris making Susie wear the bow, and it's really REALLY uncanny how Kris ALWAYS looks at the 4th wall after a cutscene.
>>713041256i'm already feeling like an old man at 22. i've wasted my entire life already. and i know it only gets worse from here.
>>713041025>Anyone else feel robbed by this question by the way?That's the point. It's asking you something that you've been misled about and you couldn't possibly know, but Kris would, because it's a question about Kris's life.
The "Kris's favorite food" question is similar but not as much of a rugpull, Undertale-brained people who are locked in on "Kris = Chara" are going to automatically pick "chocolate" instead of "pie" (and even if you're not it's basically a 50-50, Kris loves both).
>>713038550 (OP)I'm watching a girl play Deltarune right now
>>713041276pissed off that he didn't get to be in undertale so he wants deltarune to finish being made so he can be in it
>>713041276he wants toby to FINISH HIS FUCKING GAME
>>713041152This is such a dumb and incorrect post that I want you to actually stare at the screen for a minute and re-read what you typed.
>>713040869>A 2-21 year old!? On 4CHAN!?!? AIEEEEEEWhy are you guys like this? The site's 18 and up, not 30 and up.
>>713041276A BRIGHTER FUTURE.
>>713041176oh yeah and noelle im a retard
ralsei isnt real and berdly just wants her in his harem. in ch2 he called her the class hellion
>>713041196Actually felt bad for this dude when he made this face.
>>713040609this is what people with toxoplasmosis see every day
>>713041293HOLY SHIT
MYTH'S ARE 100% REAL IN THE DELTARUNE THREAD?
FUCK YEAH!
>>713039767>In Detlarune, you know from the start that you've taken control of some kid and that they have their own lifeThat only really became apparent during chapter 2. We didn't even know Kris could rebel against us until chapter 1 end and most people's reaction to the end was "OMG CHARA".
>>713041039>THE PROMISE IN OUR HEARTS....>DON'T FORGET>I'M WITH YOU IN THE DARKYeah it's probably nothing
>>713041256How old are you, anon?
>>713040936>canonically nonbinarylink me the source
>>713041348>Undertale-brained people who are locked in on "Kris = Chara" are going to automatically pick "chocolate" instead of "pie"I'm not a charafag but I did fall for this because of the Choco Diamond item
>>713041286Catti and Monster Kid both said they don't like Susie.
>>713041398This site would be better if it was 30 and up.
>>713040869>Younger than at least 2/3rds of the LOTR filmsYour words damage me
>>713040609Don't forget the most important one
>>713038550 (OP)undertale isnt a video game. its an interactive movie. the whole fanbase is feminine
>>713041336I guess I'm having issues deciding what is an intentional 4th break and what is just a videogame being a game.
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I must say I'm glad Deltarune feels a lot more realistic. You just couldn't take Undertale seriously with how much it hammered in "being a perfect angel to people who have gleefully murdered children and will continue to do so". This little one-off line at the end is really the only time pacifism is called into question.
Meanwhile the "pacifist" character in Deltarune is slowly becoming more bold and recognizing that sometimes you have to fight and is honestly more serious about this than the "mean girl" like when he killed Fake Gerson and said to abandon Jackenstein or they'd all fall. This game doesn't feel like it's being preachy.
>>713041276Deltarune is HIS story. His game. His creation.
>>713040517https://youtu.be/q7eOl8Jvb8A?t=10073
>>713041450And the Hot Chocolate.
>>713041152Asriel's copy of How To Draw Dragons says otherwise.
>i'm already feeling like an old man at 22. i've wasted my entire life already. and i know it only gets worse from here.
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>>713041340just keep serving burgers if you want to keep getting paid
>>713041234sybau red herrings are literally how mystery plots work
>>713041407why are you such an ignorant fool
berdly is tsun, and it doesn't matter if ralsei is objectively(jej) real, as susie put it
>>713041361>player is deltarune>deltarune is angel-shaped in symbolic depictions>angel is incomprehensibly shaped in the actual prophecyAre (You) the angel?
>>713038550 (OP)Why does Noelle's bedroom use the trans flag colour scheme?
>>713041279>Basically, she's a lot less likely to steal gameboys nowadays.in that same specific scene she tells noelle that if she finds another copy she should put it in the lost and found so susie can steal it. in the same chapter, susie approves of stealing money from asriel's dresser.
>>713041340c'mon man don't burgerpants-post in front of the fellas
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>>713041340no you haven't I promise you will be feeling this exact same way 3 years from now if you start now you will feel less pathetic later, best of luck
>>713041113>you don't get to have your mean girl bully bitch AND your heart of gold tradwife baitMaybe you should try actually engaging with the writing and treating the character as a person instead of shoehorning them into your lazy and shallow archetypes
>>713041501>he didn't get all the recruits in Chapter 4You could have saved him, man...
>>713041553>Are (You) the angel?
>>713041152>feared by everyone at the beginning for her amazing power>everyone learns to love her>she is even more amazing at everything than she once thought>has the power to resist something no one else can>all the main characters want her stinky vagsusie is the troubled mary sue archetype
>>713039427Alphys and Undyne are also gay in Deltarune but rest of characters are straight
>>713041575>no you haven't I promise you will be feeling this exact same way 3 years from now if you start now you will feel less pathetic later, best of luckthank you. i'm gonna go pick an acoustic guitar for the first time in years.
>>713040869based dad but you shouldn't be here, child
>>713041501>he let Jackenstein dieWhat the fuck anon.
>>713041348Got Pie on my first guess, got Green lizard Completely missing Kris coughing and changing the answer
>>713041649Alphys is bi and wants to be fucked to death by Asgore.
>>713040001It really is FORCED
Girls into video games is incredibly overexaggerated, even in the current day
Animal Crossing and Candy Crush isn't some sexist stereotype, it's statistically backed
>>71304086999 baby, my dad showed me eeeeverything through emulation on PC
Truly amazing stuff
>>713041340It doesn't get better
>>713041521Asriel and Susie don't know each other
>>713041501>This little one-off line at the end is really the only time pacifism is called into question.My cynic take is that Toby didn't realize how many ultra retards would completely misconstrue his silly little puzzle game via not actually playing the game and regurgitating internet propaganda so now he's just outright retard-proofing so that the low IQ browns don't have a leg to stand on anymore.
>>713040729anon...the point is that noelle makes an obvious among us joke but susie doesn't get it because she's not online and doesn't give a shit about modern memes so noelle has to go "n-never mind faha!"
>>713041521Asriel took that book from the library over seven years before the game takes place, meaning he has likely never even seen Susie before or at least never met her (since it's still a mystery when specifically Susie arrived in town). If anything, the mauve color is by chance and the 'dragon wearing lipstick' part is important, given his Yoshi fascination and everything involving alligators in bikinis.
>>713041451And for that ultimate sin, Catti has been cast off into the deepest pits of joke characterism and existing so that Susie can look cool by telling her to fuck off. Monster Kid is next. (laugh)
>>713041751No wonder the jannies hate him
>>713040517>Streamers completely ignore sudden important expression changes in scenes or hidden meanings in them because they voice the characters or are too enamored in the romance/comedyWake me up
>>713041501>being a perfect angel to people who have gleefully murdered children and will continue to do soReminder that the only monster who did genuinely feels so remorseful for what he's only willing to kill himself had it not been for the intervention of his dead son
>>713041501Based Jackenstein killer
>>713041776Can't believe Asriel Dreemurr is a fucking scaly.
>>713040781Earthbound aura. Somehow Toby understand what the creator of YIIK don't
>>713041583>toby fox game>having anything more than lazy and shallow archetypes"mean girl who's less mean to the person who treats her nice for no reason" is in fact the laziest and most shallow archetype of all, and in this case it's even paired up with the "two girls can't confess their feelings to each other and spend the whole episode doing elementary school almost-kiss shit" trope.
>i love a girl who can literally just kill me.jpg
>>713041407>ralsei isnt realYes he is! His name is literally an anagram of Is Real! He's a dead lightner brought back to life like Gerson
>he actually thinks susie being into dragon blazers is just for suselle
>when dragon blazers is the prophecy, susie is the dragon, and everything you ever hear about the game always has some cryptic relation to the events of deltarune
keeek
>>713041450>>713041514And the box of chocolates if you use them instead of giving them to Alphys
>>713039553It doesnt at all and I dont know what youre even talking about. You being a dick to Susie and the Weird route are significantly different things. So far the only major chapter difference is with Ch2. Ch3 and Ch4 make it into shit that exists alongsode the natiral plot.
>>713041850Fitting that he's the only one that canonically killed children.
>>713041839>Anon discovers ritual posting for the first time.
>>713041839Just remind him that Chara is named murder boy in the game files to make him screech
is video games still considered nerdy?
>>713041776>Catti has been cast off into the deepest pits of joke characterismshe was always that
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>>713041089>we don't know yet if the game acknowledges the player as a thing in this universeGenuinely cannot believe anyone is still denying this after the Chapter 4 Weird Route has us teleport into a room by exploiting game mechanics and directly speak to Noelle through Kris (with what she again confirms is NOT Kris's voice) and respond to her thoughts because we can read her mind in the text boxes
>Susie's unremovable equipment
>Susie's equipment increases stats as an enemy
>"Enforces fate with the blade"/"Faces fate with the blade"
The ultimate rematch with Susie is INEVITABLE, regardless of route.
>>713041912being a shipfag legitimately tampers with your literary analysis skills
>>713041501>>713041852>only just now found out jackenstein can die there>watch the scene>the knight kills him seemingly only out of spite because there's no way he could have climbed up and posed any threat to themTHAT'S IT
ASGORE GET THE TRUCK
>>713039045Yes, but he's a little shit that's actively working for the enemy while trying to keep you on a tight leash, so you're both controlling the other.
>>713041850I'm talking about Undyne who acts like a smug prick after saying she's tired of giving the dramatic speech and just wants to take your soul already.
She never faces any consequences for any of the horrible things she's done just because she's a silly wacky lesbian.
How is nobody talking how Gerson is basically telling us that chapter 5 will be flower-shop and that it will be burned down by Asgore?
>>713040001>Noelle is Toby's self insert>Noelle shares all of Toby's interests and hobbies: retro RPGs, game glitches and theories, cross country running, purple women with exactly fourteen teeth, etc.>With the lack of actual chemistry between Susie and Noelle, Susie has to have those specific interests too so that the lowest IQ fandom members can't point out how fucking heavy-handed and nonsensical the shipping isYou're welcome.
>>713041470>doesn't react until we touch his bodyWhat did Toby mean by this?
is Toby Fox the first writter to succesfully unrape a character??
>>713041908I had a thought the other day. Asriel went "to college". Is that just a euphemism for death? Or maybe Kris represses it so hard the player never knows the truth.
>>713042091i wanna bury my face in his navel so fucking bad. what an incubus
>>713041983Not really. But people will still look at you weird if you are too enthusiastic about them.
>>713042096There's no such thing as unraping
>>713042096the rape is in the eye of the beholder with this one
that's the genius
>"cat with yellow and pink" is the calling card of deltarune's newest schizo shit FRIEND
>catti is a cat with yellow and pink in her palette
what the fuck does it mean
>>713038550 (OP)yes they do
the fanbases of The Coffin of Andy and Leyley and FFXIV are clearly women
>>713042060Something clearly happened to make him agree to this bullshit, I don't know why we all want the worst for this kid who's clearly going thru it.
>>713041983If you spend your free time on anything other than going to clubs, that's considered a huge ick.
>>713041912Speaking of RPGs and dragons, go rewatch Skies Forever Blue right now. Just trust me.
>>713041990why the fuck does noelle talk about her regularly even in the hidden ARG blog shit for the past 7 years and why set up "she did weird stuff with kris, she doesn't like susie (the protagonist)," etc if it's just gonna be for fucking nothing? how did berdly go from joke to genuine character and back to joke again, other than to twist the balls of people who thought anyone else would be important?
>>713041908>>713042124asriel being dead makes no sense unless you think the entire town is conspiring to lie about it for no reason, which makes even less sense
alphys even mentions that kris would regularly dm asriel before the internet went down!
>>713042164FRIEND is a hand with the elemental power of Puppet/Cat.
>>713041979>murderboyschizo reveals himself. CHARA WITH BOOBS, BOOO!!!
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>>713042124Or maybe Asriel had a twin.
>>713041992ch4 also has Susie ask about the soul to Kris after the Titan dunk
>>713042071Asgorefags have been coping that Asgore is totally gonna be the good guy this time and that the Most Divorced Man Alive didn't catastrophically fuck things up once again
>>713042184frisk spoiled people too much.
i like this Kris kid, he has moxie.
>>713042049Jackenstein can die? What? I play "pacifist" but I did get Berdlys arm broken and killed those Titan-embryos. Also won the Knight fight. Jackenstein was just fine in my playthrough, saved by the cups etc.
>>713041575>if you start nownta but I'm starting to ask myself what the hell this even means. who's to say that if you fulfill your life's dream, you won't still feel like the same loser you were before? hypothetically
>>713042096It's been a rape allegory since chapter 2
>>713042164Almost everything she tells her FRIEND Kris outside of school is a prediction of the future... Coincidence?
>>713042164Bratty is also a pink and yellow cat (Dragon Blazers and CatPetterz are rip offs of eachother. Bratty acts like a cat)
>>713042176COFFIN OF ANDY AND LEYLEY MENTIONED
WHO HERE LIKES INCEST?
>>713042275if you don't recruit every possible monster he doesn't get saved
>>713042275If you don't recruit enough chapter 4 darkners he's gone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WQMUzkWkq4
>>713042184Believe me, I want the best for Kris. But that doesn't change the fact he deserves to be smacked around a little first.
>>713042265Lame and predictable, and Gerson said its no fun if stories are too predictable. So I doubt a hint given by him would be just that. personally I hope for once Toriel gets shown as the bitch she is and she burns down the flowershop
>>713041839ONE NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
>>713041629don't forget
>has informed flaws that never actually matter in the story
>>713042071anon we had hundreds of threads since the game came out
we already talked about that
>>713041336Ralsei also seems to be aware of the BGM, while Susie is not.
The straight side of me is desperate to FUCK Dess
The gay side of me is desperate to gently make love with Ralsei
>>713042096It was never actual rape, but it always was, and still is, a "spiritual" rape.
Her innocence was ripped away from her and she's lost her agency. The girl whispering "thank you" after you shatter her personality is nothing but a broken shell that can hardly be considered the same girl anymore
Our holy sister, mother, lover and friend Susie Deltarune
>>713042358man I dont see it going any other way than Susie murdering The Knight, I wonder what Kris will do in that moment.
>>713042403she recognizes rouxls's theme, which implies he's just blasting it on a speaker wherever he goes
>>713042265Asgore is essentially the trolly problem meme. I really can't fault him or Toriel.
>>713042164Agore is Pink and Yellow
Noelle is Yellow and Susie is Pink in the UI
Spamton has Pink and Yellow
Even in the concept inspiration art Jevil has pink and yellow
The Controller is pink and yellow
FRIEND:) is pink and yellow
Catty and Bratty all got the fucking pink and yellow
Half the fucking town is pink and yellow
Asgores entire fucking shop interior is pink and yellow
AGORE HIMSELF IS PINK AND YELLOW IN HAIR AND CLOTHES
EVERYTHING IS PINK AND YELLOW NIGGER
EVERYTHING
LOOK AROUND YOU CUNTFUCK, ITS EVERYWHERE
>>713042071Because we're waaaaay past that and onto how Asgore is about to become Spamton 2.0.
>>713042347does Chara/Asriel count as incest?
>>713041649>but rest of characters are straightNO ONE is straight in Deltarune. Bisexuality is 'the norm' and so far, the actual ratio of interest is skewed WAY towards same-sex couples.
>>713042403Kris played Rouxls's theme so either Kris can hear it too or Rouxls's theme is diegetic and I could honestly see him being enough of a fucking dweeb to play his theme out loud whenever he appears
>>713041439https://youtu.be/Ul0wlHgLahU
>>713042347i would actually be very down to play a version of coffin that had deltarune rpgmechanics instead of boring puzzles. they already do souls and supernatural stuff, so its not even that much of a stretch. biggest problem with that game is the gameplay sucks ass.
>>713042374>Toriel gets shown as the bitch she isthat already happened. toriel wouldn't burn down asgore like that, asgore would totally burn down his own shop like that though.
>>713042402>tfw couldnt finish the game before today so Im just catching up
>>713042037It's gonna be kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOc22_3Z-30
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Why is Kris associated with dog/puppy behavior?
>>713042347Noelle has Leyley tendencies as she want to fuck her sister replacement
>>713041856you would be too if pic related took your first kiss in a closet with her 14 inches of flexible alligator tongue
>>713042508this isn't proof that kris is nonbinary, but it is proof that toby wants kris's gender to ambiguous and unspecified.
there are a few ways to interpret this.
>>713042483FINALLY hes going to have all the popularity in the fandom he deserves
>>713041629>toby makes a tomboy main character>he makes it a mary sue who is right about everything and loved by allis toby going to troon out?
>>713042265I don't want him to be a good guy, I want to see his full power unleashed. I will seethe if he's not the hardest fight Toby's ever made.
>>713042502>NO ONE is straight in Deltarune. Bisexuality is 'the norm'And it's based
>>713042479Wasn't there a piece of dialogue that confirmed that was exactly what he did back in chapter 2?
>>713042481Sparing is yellow and can be pink in Undertale. That's definitely no coincidence
That's a clue to the fact that sparing and pacifism is playing right into the prophecy's hands
>>713042369Literally what are you fucking talking about. Him attacking the soul HURTS him, he has like half hp after the ch 4 weird route scene. He is literally punishing himself every time he attacks us.
>>713042586Soft deconfirmation of "Ralsei is Kris's monstersona" theory because Kris's monstersona is dog
A point toward the "Kris is Toby Fox's self-insert" theory along with stuff like struggling to play the piano
>>713042615Not blood related.
>>713042529>Deltarune RPG mechanics>branching paths that allow for different romantic interests>the one True Good End involves your full-blooded biological sisteri'd play it
>>713042502CATTENHEIMERS
STAY
WINNING
Granted they do have a bi daughter, but they also have a straight daughter, so it evens out.
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>>713042632I honestly agree, I want to see Asgore lose his temper, I want to see the Asgore that swore revenge on humanity and condemned seven children to death
>>7130422291.setting up cat petterz
2. pending
3. foreshadowing
>>713042402>Festival>more titans>Dess backstory of Kris and what he promised to Carol>flower shop land and dark fountain appearing in Asgore shop>Noelle getting wings and becoming the deltarune piece>Asgore finale battle as he's jealous of Sans and loses his mindChapter 5 gonna be fucking epic. Who do you think will be the secret hard boss?
>>713041513The only vtuber I can tolerate
>>713042632>Susie's arc with Gerson in Chapter 4 was learning to become more confident in her healing>Ralsei will have the inverse of this, learning to become more confident with fighting because he fights the guy who breaks your spare button
>>713042071Don't forget how you need a thorn for the thorn ring.
>>713042402I didn't play Chapter 1 because I hate being drip-fed content. Then 7 years later, with the release of the Switch 2, I found out the series was only halfway done so I just said fuck it, I'm just going to play it before I die of old age.
Any theory that gives a living Lightner adult a truly major role in the DR plot is not paying attention. Asgore will get a bone throne his way I'm sure but he's not gonna be a fountain ruler or anything like that.
anons, i need your images of FRIEND just being a shithead cat
Youโre all subculture trannies
>>713042531Yes thats what I mean
>the vast garden is chared in a inferno of jelousyShes gonna burn down his shop.
I predict he gets together with Mad Dummy Ghost now that she doesnt have to watch out for Metatons depressed ass anymore. Toriel who by now took it for granted that even after the divorce she was the center of the universe to him, burns down the place.
"Asgore gets mad at Sans and burns it down himself" just is too fucking silly. Doubt Sans will get that lvel of weight in the story
>>713042502It does become immersion breaking when literally everyone is gay or is alluded to be
A world like that wouldn't function
>>713042769>1.setting up cat petterz>setting up the set up to a set up to a payoff that we don't even have the slightest clue of yetMan, episodic game releases fucking suck.
When preparing your save files, remember to grind out the renewable revivemints that have a 1/20 chance of being stolen from the Mizzles!
>>713042784Sans but in Deltarune's system.
>>713042784>Who do you think will be the secret hard boss?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83jGCWCcBzc
>>713042619Yeah sure anon, in a game that isnโt subtle about the fact that (you) and Kris are separate entities, that emphasizes that you have different identities, lives, and talents, Krisโs gender identity is TOTALLY up to the playerโs interpretation.
>>713042819what was it like playing it all in one go?
>>713042838Play some good masculine games like Metal Arms and Dark Ages
>>713042873Nah 3 or 4 should be enough for the rest of the game. The Mizzles can keep their mints.
>>713042096Not really and his gay little innocent puppy dog persona means he literally CANNOT fix the misunderstanding without it being an Earth shattering event of breaking character.
>>713042689when did they put on these outfits
>>713042840Yeah. On one hand I dont want Pizzapants to be a abused sad guy
On the other him going from trying to get laid with girls to probably just kiss the nicecream guy is lame
>>713042916Pretty fun
But now I'm still being cucked with an incomplete story
>>713042919can you post a woman shitting instead please
>>713042893How likely is it that the yellow flower Darkner makes an UTY reference?
I mean, he referenced Friend Inside Me like 3 times in Chapter 3-4.
>>713042586kris has been likened to a dog a number of times, most noticeably in ch2
in the newer chapters susie says he's scratching at the door to the game room in ch3 , along with her being in a dog costume when fighting tenna in the susizilla minigame
susie also tells him to stop howling when they're at the lakefront at night, presumably she was howling at the moon because of autism
>>713042975That's part of Tenna's defeat animation
>>713042071People did talk about it a while ago.
>>713042840>Humanity has become so gay that the global population has lowered such that the ratio of humans to monsters is 100s to 1
>janny gets told to stand down
>starts spamming disgusting trash instead
lol, lmao.
shock value stops working after you've been on the internet for a few years, kid.
>>713042131>>713042213theres really not much else do to in this society. touching grass isn't really that interesting these days. and its expensive. the computer is really the best thing people have. and the only other things to do on the computer are watch youtube videos or anime, which aren't as engaging as vidya.
>>713042912i'm not saying that it's up to our interpretation, just that we don't know what it is.
and anyway, "non-binary" is like a specific identity where you refuse to belong to any gender. kris's gender isn't even discussed.
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>>713042347This but with Noelle and Kris in a snowgrave ending.
>>713042715>they also have a straight daughterno they fucking don't, chief
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>Toby's all like "No you have to call Kris a they! They're nonbinary! LGBT rights!"
>"Also I'm going to base his appearance off a super manly protag of an old game I like!"
This is 100% his fault. He should've designed Kris differently if he didn't want this to happen
>>713042965Itโd be a stupid move on his part to address it publicly, regardless of his wholesome chungus persona.
>>713042689>Kris is Toby's self-insert>Deltarune and his fever dream in general are just an allegory for his life
>>713042071there will be two chapter 5 fountains, ICE-E's (Snowdin) and Flower-Shop (Ruins)
>>713042820>Asgore will get a bone throne his way I'm sure but he's not gonna be a fountain ruler or anything like that.This prophecy is listed immediately after Queen's and Tenna's in the files
We know Asgore has some involvement in the conspiracy, if anyone is "reprising their role" from Undertale, it's him.
I wouldn't at all be surprised if Chapter 6+ has us confronting Carol in the Dark World either, she's gonna use that black katana at some point.
>>713043070made for huggin and fuggin
>>713042820The prophecy panel for him is literally named "Boss3". And considering Queen's was Boss1 and Tenna's was Boss2, well... You can put 2 and 2 together.
>>713042975because susie got cool and cute mixed up
>>713042989Yeah this one in particular stood out to me as morally reprehensible and fetishistic almost
It's really fucked up and people are just going "omg gay slaayyy!" like retards as this guy gets catfished
>>713043079>>Toby's all like "No you have to call Kris a they! They're nonbinary! LGBT rights!"Toby has never said this
His response to everything involving the protagonists' genders is a hard Skip
He includes the they/them shit he just doesn't get deep into it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BUKHLVCJio
>>713042840Yeah that's what irks me, like if you wanna say "in this world, no one can choose who they are, so everyone just fucks whoever" then that isn't my cup of shipping-bait tea but that's fine I guess, but you'd think it would still average out to something at least close to 50/50 instead of "everything is about lesbians and the only characters to have shown hetereosexual interest are forever alone 'weird' incels, Asgore, or are turning gay like Bratty and Catty"
just feels like it's a little bit rigged, y'know?
>>713043062Regardless if the word โnonbinaryโ is used or not, Kris uses they/them pronouns, so if you call them she/her or he/him, you are objectively wrong.
>>713043091At what point does Kris move into an older man's basement and make music for his webcomic in exchange for rent and buttsex?
>>713043091Then, Noelle... Oh no
>>713043172>King wasn't listed as a boss>Because in the prophecy Boss0 was meant to be Susie
>>713043204Don't forget Pizzapants. You just know he's going to go through some arc where he gives up his dream of some bombshell lady and falls for the weird guy catfishing him
>>713043079You can be nonbinary and still present in a masculine way.
>gay people existing? AAAAAAAAAAAA I'M GOING INSAAAAAAAAAAANE
Flyovers are so strange
>>713038550 (OP)I saw my sister bite her lip when she watched that cutscene.
>>713043076Catti is only into Jockington, as far as I'm aware.
>>713043134An alternative explanation for how the "end of the prophecy" fits into Chapter 5 being Snowdin is that when you go backwards in Undertale, you can't go further back than Snowdin.
Ruins is blocked off by a locked door you can't open.
A locked door you can't open.
The shelter.
>>713043204>>713043287Same shit happened with Berdly, it's really cringe and out of touch
>>713043079>>"Also I'm going to base his appearance off a super manly protag of an old game I like!"Kris wears a fucking nurse outfit
>>713043309Thank god they don't reproduce and die young.
>>713043079KRIS
SHOULD'VE
HAD
LONG
HAIR
>>713041456I'm under 30 and even I agree with this
>>713043020It is possible
My hope for next chapter is that he references based on my aunt
THE ANGEL THIS THE ANGEL THAT WHY ARE WE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE DEMONIC WINGED ANGEL WE SEE IN SOME OF THE DELTA RUNE SYMBOLS?
>>713043362>crossdressing suddenly isn't a really popular trope
>>713042049This is who Kris is siding with by the way.
>>713043147>I wouldn't at all be surprised if Chapter 6+ has us confronting Carol in the Dark World either, she's gonna use that black katana at some point.The attack pattern in scottdale rapes will get us every time.
The Angel is You.
The Baby is You.
>>713043212i think toby just doesn't want anyone to know kris's gender. you have to use pronouns to refer to someone, so the only solution is to enforce they/them.
>fixes your sad gay goat's existential anxiety and depression
If you think about it, Descartes's philosophical musings were almost expressly made for Ralsei, since he starts with the premise that what if his consciousness was the captive of a demon trying to mislead him. But nonetheless by thinking about this at all he can conclude he is in fact real.
>>713043287>Nice Cream Guy shows up to festival date in drag>Pizzapants remains oblivious
>>713043439THAT'S JUST FRIEND. PAY HIM NO MIND.
>>713043362>wearing a lab coat makes you gay and transCome the fuck on man
>>713043439Wait which one?
>>713043287That isn't even his dream. His dream is to be an actor. He had that dream in Undertale even (he got to play a tree in the credits play, IIRC) and mentions it in Deltarune, too- albeit with wanting fangirls too, but that seems to be a secondary thing. And it's even a perfect fit because holy shit a guy who can offhandedly morph his face around like that would be great on stage, and we just had an entire chapter about acting and TV shows and shit and BP just got stood up for a date instead.
>>713043187You have to admit there's a funny irony to it where people will cheer for BP going prison gay for Blue Ears and ignore how it's all a setup caused by Bratty being a genuinely evil bitch who enjoys screwing with people because Bratty is also gay now.
>>713041102WOODY IN CHAPTER 5
TRUST THE PLAN
>>713043449Actually reading that, the only thing that hasn't happened in deltarune yet is toriel and alphys getting arrested.
>>713043315>>713043387Okay so "Mike" (FRIEND) is the closest this game will have to a main villain right? This nigga is evil incarnate or something.
>>713043362tbf Kris's Nurse outfit is just his Doctor outfit with a different hat.
He's not actually dressed up like a skimpy nurse outfit.
>>713041563It's more of a reference to Alice Margatroid's outfit, Toby is a Touhou fan you know
>>713042839>I predict he gets together with Mad Dummy Ghost now that she doesnt have to watch out for Metatons depressed ass anymorethis depends on whether you give mett
aon a tv or not
>Toriel who by now took it for granted that even after the divorce she was the center of the universe to him, burns down the placeThat is wildy out of character for Toriel and equally as silly. Even after their fights, she prays for the best for Asgore and doesn't like Carol emasculating him as her butler.
I feel like sans
>being part of the MC's family drama>having a theme very much related to him drop in a pivotal moment of ch. 4>the dr>ut implications >the papyrus teasingis a sizable amount of weight already
>>713043134Gerson literally lists the chapter of the game so far in the hammer of justice battle when he talks about LORD OF THE HAMMER
>"Chapter 1: The March of the Dark King: The Heroes defeat the Dark king and stop the DragonChapter 2: The city of the Shining: The Heroes do Battle in Chariots to save the Queen
Chapter3: The Isle of northern lights: The heroes travel amongst isalnds and catch a glimpse of a lost land (The Sword route has you go north through frozen islands until you find the lost code parts Tenna blocked off)
>Chapter 4: Trials of the holy Hammer: A great Smith gives the heroes a terrible weapon (DUH)>CHapter 5: The field of Pink and Gold: The Vast garden is chared in an inferno of Jelousy
>>713043371>long haired Krisslow down there, we can't have too much SEX in one game
What would sex with carol be like?
>>713043590In all seriousness I dunno why people aren't considering that toby teased a character in a chapter that hasn't released yet.
>>713043597I can't, the game resets when i do
>>713042632I think we gonna have a huge redemption of Asgore. When the story make you think he's scheming and causing trouble or that he killed Dess, but it will turn out Kris did some shit and Asgorre took all the blame and sacrificed his relationship with Toriel to protect Kris and help him fix evrything with Holidays becoming their servant and neglecting Toriel. Entire internet gonna cry when they learn how selfless and based Asgore is.
What is this freedom song you fags are talking about?
>>713043292Sounds like a bad game of pretend for attention
>>713043628Ohyeah he also says that Dragon Blazers is BASED ON LORD OF THE HAMMER, and its obvious by now Dragon Blazers paralells DR in many aspects
>>713041716we need to make women play more counter strike
>>713043020he was shitting on schizo theories for the most part, and friend inside me was originally sourced from him.
a yellow reference, realistically, will almost certainly never happen because toby knows how bad his fanbase is
>toby throws in a "aunt M" line from berdly>everybody knows exactly what he means>fandom goes crazy trying to get the NEXT REFERENCE HAVE TO GET A REFERENCE FROM TOBY>five bajillion half baked fangames come out that are worse than repaints and genuinely have no value.>hundreds of genuine fanproject makers stabbed in the back and torn down becuase they could get the next reference instead.
>>713042820I still think Boss 3 is the actual flower and not Asgore himself.
>>713043628>The Heroes do Battle in Chariots to save the QueenThis part always throws me off when I'm comparing it to Deltarune's story
When did they battle in a vehicle? The Thrash Machine? But they were never trying to save the Queen, they were trying to beat the shit out of her.
Unless the Queen means Toriel, but saving Toriel is Chapter 3, not 2.
>>713043323the entire subtext of her dialogue is that she wants to fuck noelle. she hates susie (now, anyway) because she sees susie as taking noelle from her, and catti is a fat coward you're supposed to hate for having not made a move on noelle (it's okay for noelle to just stutter over herself for susie forever though). i mean come on, she went to noelle's house, called her the 'light shining in the night,' and wouldn't leave until noelle 'pet the pussy.' how much more obvious can it be
jockington is just a friend that she hangs out with to not appear gay. to wit: jockington is the beard.
>>713043602The main "antagonist" is Gaster. The white annoying dog is his right hand, and the black FRIEND cat is his left. Everything that happens is part of his experiment.
...but in terms of shit that's happening literally right now yes it is the shitstirring demon cat behind it all in order to tempt you into searching for a new future rather than just accepting the fate handed to you.
It will be Noelle burning down Asgores Shop after she goes mad about seeing Susie kiss Kris
>>713043643>those thighsMUH
>>713043602>toby and kris are dogs>catti is a bitch to susieYeah that makes sense. Deltarune is explicitly anti-cat propaganda.
>>713043628In the original game of Mantle, we go to the Ice Palace.
We'll go to the Ice-Palace as a detour from the prophecy when Noelle creates a fountain in Ice-E's
>>713043806The battle with Berdly on the bumper cars in chapter 2.
>>713043806you could argue they were trying to save queen from herself because she didn't know that making more fountains would trigger the roaring
it's the biggest stretch out of all of them, though
>>713043806Roller coasters.
The Knight's split screen attack is fucking AIDS
If Toby actually portrays the catfishing as a good thing I'm refunding the game.
There is no Gaster, there never was a Gaster
>>713043826you guys really take that "king of ero games" and run wild, huh
>>713043806Oh actually just remembered, they do fight in a vehicle, Berdly and Spamton.
But they never do it to "save the Queen"
>>713043716The melody used in the world revolving, big shot and hammer of justice
>>713042839Let's be real here. Which one do you seriously think is most likely?
>old man who can't move on reaches his breaking point and burns everything down in a fit of rage (has already happened once in canon)>vs>old woman who has seemingly done everything to signal she doesn't want anything to do with her ex-husband suddenly gets jealous of him dating someone new
>>713043806>When did they battle in a vehicle? Half the important battles in chapter 2 including Spamtons take place on these
>>713043716https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gkTtNefxws&t=20s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8p8VowCmgE&t=54s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBdLO8u-0L8&t=109s
>>713043946it's in "air waves" too
>>713043723All identities are us filling a role or playing pretend when you think about it really.
>>713043919who is getting catfished?
>>713043806The Queen is Noelle.
>>713043919Anon, it's already written in stone. Chapter 6 at the latest, the jig is up and Pizzapants is massively dejected, then Chapter 7 epilogue he's moved onto the acceptance phase and drops hints that he's warming up to NCG. Bratty gets a slap on the wrist maybe.
>>713043590>>713043686Was if the flower man isn't Asgore but Asriel?
>>713044003This is defamation
>>713043787fuck it took me a second
>>713042243Chara is a very cute girl's name I refuse to see her as anything other than a girl
also Frisk is in that Furude fit
>>713044023The artist formerly known as burgerpants
>>713043826You're a terminally online porn addict that thinks a cat that likes being pet is some sexual inuendo
Catti in general is fantastical in her descriptions, she does the same thing when talking with Kris because she's an occultist
Burgerpants would NEVER start an incel arc.
>>713043716https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18qOstKfUBA
What's really interesting is that what people call the "freedom motif" was not in the beta version of VS Spamton NEO. Instead, the motif inherited from The World Revolving was the last bit that plays 8 times and is to the tune of the main theme where she sings "I'm with you in the dark".
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>>713043986This she even has a little crown on her chariot
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>>713043661MY [DADDY] AND MY [MOMMY] AND MY [DADDY] AND MY
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>>713043628BUT IF NORTHERNLIGHT REFERS TO THE ISLAND IN THE DARK WORLD VIDEO GAME AND THE DARK WORLD VIDEO GAME IS BASED ON DRAGON BLAZERS AND DRAGON BLAZERS IS BASED ON LORD OF THE HAMMER THEN OF COURSE IT'S GOING TO LINE UP
THE PROPHECY IS ENTIRELY SELF-FULFILLING, IT PREDICTS NOTHING
>The queen's chariot cannot be stopped
>Queen's car stops for traffic and later blows up
>Toriel's car gets its tires slashed
>Noelle's bumper car gets knocked off by Berdly
Literally every interpretation of "the queen" DID have their chariots stop
>>713043986>>713044047Huh. Since both Queen and Noelle rode on the same "chariot", that could actually work,
>>713044006https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/midwit
>>713041293>Literal who that is barely involved in development
>>713044051>What if the flower man is a character who is completely divorced from the plot instead of the extremely important character that's key to core plot hooks and has a black shard?Theory straight out of chapter 2 era
>>713044146Anybody trying to connect FRIEND to Undertale needs to give it a fucking rest, all these interactions have always been about Flowey.
>>713043938i prefer to call it pessimism, really
>>713044135>You're a terminally online porn addicthalf of this statement is true and i will let you guess which half, but more importantly: deltarune is a game about lesbian love triangles and if you don't think that's even a POSSIBLE interpretation of her dialogue (which is much, much more verbose in 4 than it was in 1/2), then basically, you're fucking stupid
>>713043919Can't something good happen because of a bad thing?
Doing Snowgrave gives Kris and Noelle the opportunity to reconnect, isn't that a good thing? Does that mean Toby thinks attempted murder is good?
>>713044158wrong faggot
the beta version of spamton neo uses the section of world revolving that's in dialtone
>>713044250the Muffet one is Mettaton
the "changing shape" is EX
his box form doesn't have a smile, and Muffet wouldn't recognize him even if she knew of Mettaton because EX hadn't debuted yet
>>713044163Id be mad as hell if I were Kris who tf made his dogshit ride
jevil wasn't that good in hindsight.
he was just the best we had at the time
We can theorize as much as we like because its really fun to do so, but there is nothing I can pinpoint as to WHEN the Goner Vessel is gonna show up.
>>713044163>No Ralsei sprite has a tailBut his cart does, confirming he has one
My penis thanks you, Toby Fox.
>>713044250Flowey can't fucking shapeshift. At best, he can change his face features.
>>713044295Attempted murder is good. Indiscriminate murder is counter-productive.
>>713043982Remember when retards said the pattern wouldn't be that all the shadow crystal bosses have the freedom melody but that every boss would have the previous one's theme in it?
The lengths people go to be contrarians i swear.
>>713044330is it pronounced jevil as in devil or jevil as in evil
>>713043628so why does gerson refer to "chapters" when lord of the hammer is meant to be a book series
>>713044353Shouldn't Susie's cart have a tail too then?
>>713044395as in devil
the steam store says "jevilishly difficult boss fights"
>>713044146>>713044241All of this reaching but you don't mention that the ENTRY NUMBER SEVENTEEN "garbage noise" is "mus_smile"?
>>713044286Not everything is your fetishistic porn fantasy you weird freak
>>713044330hey man that's not very nice
>>713044158you mean power of spamton? it definitely has the 'freedom' motif in it
you can clearly hear it at the 1:10 mark, don't forget plays right after it, at the 1:30 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_UEI0uZ9j0
>>713044453Noelles cart doesn't have a tail either
>>713044453She's embarrassed of hers
>>713044314why the fuck was mettaton changing into EX in the moment he was talking to muffet? why wouldn't he do that before or after, why would he do it the moment of?
>>713044330characterwise, he got left to the wayside
fight wise, nah he still cool
>>713043212>Kris uses they/them pronounsNever actually directly says this is a pronoun thing. It's supposed to be that Kris could be either but we, the player don't know what.
>>713044023p'e'zzapants
people correctly predicted that it was bratty screwing with him with the pizza photos (since she was the first one to even call him pizzapants), and in doing so burgerpants has gone from "pathetic wageslave who hates his boss" to "an actual retard who looks at photos of pizza jpegs and thinks it's a woman somehow"
>>713044048i hope bratty gets away completely scot-free because it would be fucking hilarious and tone-deaf
>>713044352It got painted over and shoved inside of Dess's closet.
>>713044395Jeevil would sound fucking stupid
>>713044330nah, he's still a great boss. i love his voice lines, the 3d arena, his design and his dance, the bullet patterns, the music obviously. in fact he's one of the only parts of chapter 1 that i feel is good enough to have come from any chapter.
>People that bitch at you for calling Kris he/she
Who are these people and why are they so insufferable?
>>713044352you can't pinpoint when anything is going to show up anon
absolutely fucking no one predicted a roaring knight fight in chapter 3
>>713044143BP wouldn't, but Pezzapants is already an incel. Bratty calls him the closest thing to one you can without saying incel, saying he deserves getting shat on for ogling women, etc.
>>713044441There are some old fantasy sagas where each tome is called a chapter.
>>713044573Can we really fault the dude living in a world where theoretically a monster that looks like they're made of pizza exists?
>>713044539I dunno? So that the mercenaries couldn't be connected back at him until it was time to reveal the plan?
Why would FLOWEY have lots of money, and when did he ever change shape without the help of human souls?
>>713044481You just know this dude was SEETHING because some fangirl shipped two boys in one of his gay-as-shit Narnia books.
>>713044217more proof that the prophecy is bullshit
>>713044352I like the theory that it already has, and Dess is using it. If it's like the NEO body, then it shapeshifts to fit whoever's using it, and it's got a similar afterimage aura to the Vessel during Gonermaker.
>>713044481>posts a quote that perfectly and directly describes Toby's writing and the inability to have actual friends without it being blushy-feely relationship baitIntentional irony?
>>713044623>I do not know if the chapter 3 schizo is friend inside me or how to draw dragons or hyperdeath MS paint doodle or mike until I open the box>The Roaring Knight appeared.>WHAT THE FUCK
>>713044187Why not?
>all the sources (Which we dont have full acess to ebcause we dont live in the universe and cant read Lord of the Hammer or play Dragonblazers) Line up with chapters 1-4 so far>the sources say chapter 5 will be about a beautifull garden burning because jelousy>>713044441Maybe like Lord of the rings it was supposed to be one fucking big book at first but then the publisher forced Gerson to split it into smaller books
>>713044613I try not to give them too hard a time. Most of them are literal children with nothing better to do but posture and browbeat on the internet.
>>713044623>Knight to C3I'm still so fucking mad we didn't see that coming.
I know we're still at least 2-3 years until chapter 7, and that's not even accounting for all the polishing that will probably happen before a full release, but I wonder if Toby will keep making games after he finishes Deltarune. I'd be totally for an entirely original RPG that still uses Deltarune's gameplay style.
>>713044395J"E"VIL'S REVOL'V'ING DESSERT P'E'ZZA
>>713044613middle classed white kids in california/nyc with too much free time.
So is the game you play backstage the same one Noelle and Susie played or is it still slightly altered
>>713044787>the route though the main game is done using knight's moves
>>713044241>>713044250>They must have meant a DIFFERENT human in a striped shirt~Just you fucking wait
Muffetbros lets just say we're gonna be eating good
>>713044217Queen's car can't be stopped when you're plowing through traffic, but she can stop it later
Tenna gets slashed in half, but he can be repaired and saved
Everything in the Prophecy will happen but it can be interpreted, like every other Prophecy ever made
>>713044574Is that little fucker STILL there after the patches?
>>713044352Chapter 6, the Gooner Vessel will return.
>>713043079Toby never said Kris was non-binary and he likely never will and just let people think what they want.
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>>713044765LEAVE HIM ALONE
>>713044613>invalid compressed header sizeFix your shit ffmpeg
Now here's a crazy theory fellas, you know how Gerson says the Lord of the Hammer was based on the prophecy, and how Dragon Blazers was based on Lord of the Hammer? What if, just what if, the prophecy has already happened once? I mean, how else would they know of The Roaring's effects? The Prophecy in Chapter 4 doesnt mention its consequences beyond the titans rising but nothing makes a mention of the eternal night that follows and the darkners that turn to stone.
If the Prophecy is absolute, then that means there was a prince of darkness before, there was a girl before, and MOST importantly, there was a CAGE before.
What if, just what if, the Vessel we made at the start of the game, he was the first Cage?
>>713044719>Dess is literally inside of usL-lewd...
>>713044356That's literally shapeshifting
>>713044842>Tenna is inside itI dunno anon you tell me
>>713044868Canon Deltatraveller babyyyyy
>>713040920>this isn't a real videoFUCK YOU
>>713044842Toby says the website stuff isn't canon and I'm thinking we're seeing the reason he said that. Was fucking ludokino realising I was playing the game noelle described in her blog though.
>>713044684>weird made up fantasy to cope with being insulted for life failureI'm sorry you've never had a single friend
>>713044727>>posts a quote that perfectly and directly describes Toby's writingYou lack the ability to understand the quote at even a basic level
Get back to me with what "Eros" is and we'll move from there and I can explain it to you in detail since you have 80 IQ
>>713044885THE KRIS SEXDOLL IS CANON
>>713044765He really just makes you want to rub him all over
Janny is asleep now? Or does he let Deltarun threads stay for good?
>>713044941Prophecy was foretold by time and space aka Gaster.
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>>713044330I think he's a fine character since he introduces the player to the concept of Darkners that are somewhat self aware of what's going on.
Not every hidden boss needs to be some earth-shattering, plot-warping fan-favorite.
I think asgore is the knight. What do you think?
>>713045065flanderization
>>713044987Don't be mean to me please
>>713045008I mostly just took the blog stuff as world building, I didn't know it was non canon.
>>713042502The only gay couple I accept is the knights.
>>713045008The website stuff "wasn't canon" because it wasn't the story you see in the game
It's the story in the world the Shadow Crystal shows you.
>>713044805I'm sure he'll work on other games even if he doesn't want to make another entirely new one himself right away.
>>713044885I spotted when playing that Tenna's foot is visible off-screen before he drops in for his final boss fight, is that fixed yet?
>>713045065Because he want to fuck Susie doggy style
>>713045079Its interesting how much Deltarune content Undertale had that we completely dismissed
>>713045065kris is a pervert (affectionate)
>>713045102Fuck you retard, Kris howled like a dog and begged for a treat to Noelle in ch2
>>713045105>basically just women proportions with those inflated chests and fit bodies and rounder assesI swear gaylords don't realize that if their dick and balls can be easily swapped for a pussy and the image is identical, it means that its female shaped.
>>713045065It's an expression of pain
>>713044574time travel shenanigans
>>713044805He is invested in deltarune universe he built and he also is inspired by Mother series wich also had sequels, so i'm 99% his next game will actually be Deltarune 2
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>>713045087I think I can't look at the Knight without seeing one of the alien assassins from Iji in an ultiautistic display of pacifism-optional Game Maker sort-of-RPG game crossovers, and it's hard. It's hard and nobody understands.
>>713045105>toby makes a "dude no homo lol" who are probably just friends in game>people take the bait and go full gay with itIs this Toby's fault for making gay bait, or for people building upon a joke and making it gayer
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>>713044805i doubt it desu
deltarune is his dream game that he's been wanting to make for over a decade and undertale was literally just practice for it
unless he has another idea he's THAT passionate about i think he'll retire on his pile of money, especially since he has wrist issues that make it hard for him to code/play intruments
he's definitely going to keep composing music for other people's projects though
>>713045105Is ch4 the first time they were explicitly, outright stated to be boyfriends?
>>713045065dess probably treated him like a dog as a joke when they were kids
i think she's just taking the piss when she does it now though, unless toby's trying to tell us that fetish theory is real
>>713044571Their mom or dad or close childhood friends wouldโve been using he/him pronouns by now if that were the case, and weโd figure it out though those blatant context clues. You donโt just live know someone for a significant portion of their lives and not know their well established gender identity.
>>713044941>>713044941It's hard to say the prophecy has happened before because we don't have a previous human candidate unless we go with an unseen character or the idea Dess was a human
>>713045105What if one of the knights... was the knight?
>>713045138Toby stuffed the whole fuckin' thing with Deltarune foreshadowing because that was the game he wanted to make all along, Undertale came second. That said it really is kind of impressive that you can keep going back and finding shit that had always been relevant to Deltarune even now.
>>713044006that's something only autistic people do
t. autist masquerading so while I deny it even to myself
>>713042998Well just pretend you're a starcraft or half-life fan waiting for the second game to come out 6-12 years later
>>713045257>Day in the life of a conservative's mental gymnastics
>>713045257undertale literally called them a gay couple, man.
>* I see two lovers staring over the edge of the cauldron of hell.>* Do they both wish for death?>* That means their love will end in hell.>* I couldn't stop laughing.
>in a world of monsters, Kris is a furry
Pretty ironic
>>713045294anon deltarune is FICTION
characters within do not have to talk realistically
>>713045252Iji was so fuckin' good man. Like holy shit. Just an absolutely ridiculous amount of reactivity, especially if you knew what was coming and set shit up ahead of time to blow that one massive motherfucker up as soon as they warped in.
>>713045257be honest anon, did you or did you not play undertale
>>713045065Because Toby is a bottom who's into petplay.
>>713045257His retarded audience think Suselle is cute and wholesome and nothing to do with Dess which they don't even know exist so obviously they will make knights gay as well as make Asgore gay with Rudy.
>>713041470You can pet Susie too?
>>713045294the biggest problem with non binary kris is that based on what we know of him she would not give a singular fuck about pronouns unless it was to fuck with someone
>>713045195>women proptionskek gay artist do women propotions all the time but that's not women proportions
>>713045373Okay i need the furry artists to actually draw anthro dog boy Kris with a fluffy tummy and squishy paw beans so I can jerk off epic style.
>>713045065>Ralsei and Kris petplay>Ralsei just wants to pet him>Ralsei is powerless to stop Kris from running around and dragging him with the leash and pouncing on him and licking his face and humping his legfuck
>>713045294toby's sacrificing some plausbility for the sake of hiding it from the player
>>713045257>>713045262Its pretty much hard confirmed they gay in chapter 4. Surprised the word boyfriend was even used.
>>713045252Man, it's been so long since the last time I saw someone mention Iji.
>>713045257>>713045419>who are probably just friends
>>713045294If it bothers you, think of it as part of the massive information filter that's been placed on Kris. We cannot see their face, hear their voice, see what they do, or even know their gender.
>>713045345>state the obvious truths>gymnasticsWhy can't you just form an opinion with the information provided?
>>713045458At this point, itโs cope on your end my guy.
>>713042632>>713042265>>713043715>>713042749it's going to be an inversion of undertale
that whole game built him up to be a child murdering monster then you finally get to him and he's a big softie
in deltarune he's been nothing but a joke
he's going to go postal
>>713045457Anon, do not fucking do this to me
>>713045262undertale called them lovers
>>713045603They're literally outright stated to be gay you fucking shelf stocker.
>>713045279>fetish theoryExplain.
>>713045603The information provided is that they are explicitly a romantic couple in both games
>>713045410It's still one of my favorite games of all time, yeah. Robert Fox may make me feel sad for idiot characters by playing musical cues at the right times but Remar made me his fucking bitch for the whole last segment of the game. especially since the pacifism stuff isn't even implied or really forced and used to make the game a hell of a lot harder also the soundtrack is still FUCKING FANTASTIC and stands on its own without clapping at leitmotifs
>>713045515It used to be around a bunch in that big list of indie games infographic, the one that used to have links built in if you opened it in Notepad. I remember Cave Story and I think Knytt were in the top 5 too.
>>713045554but kris is a they/them in noelle's ARG pages too
>>713045457>susie brings out the peanut butter
>>713045648Don't forget the "use your imagination" ending quote
>>713044897https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rksOYId-cNA&t=12539s
>>713045645>Agore 1V1ing the knight with a giant katana>Going fucking apeshit as he sees Kris get hurt and turncoatsWould be very kino to see.
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>>713043172The flower he's holding is actually boss3
>>713045689They represent Susie and Kris, the "no homo bros"
>>713045645He's called a big softie by at least three people after Toriel (that bitch) slanders him
>>713045693>Knyttgod damn you just brought back so many memories
>>713045643look man, it's obvious that toby doesn't want his fanbase to think of kris as male or female.
i don't think it's obvious that he wants the fanbase to think of kris as "non-binary", which is a specific other thing with associations.
>>713045734No you see that clearly means Toby was saying you're imagining things and it's just a funny joke. Based Tobester!!
>we gonna hear new Deltarune edition of King on the mountain in 2026
based
>>713045816what if asgore and toriel fight
like fight fight
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>>713045803https://x.com/tobyfox/status/1268886107082633227
>>713045687it's just a shitpost theory based on how most of the characters have a weird inclination to certain things
kris is into petplay, specifically as a dog
noelle is a hardcore masochist
ralsei wants to be used/ stepped on
for a while i thought susie was the only vanilla one, but others have brought up that she might be into scent stuff due to the hair smelling thing, and fujo stuff due to her teasing of kris and ralsei getting together a couple of times
birdly is also into nipples and harems i guess
>>713043829I didn't even put two and two together that FRIEND is just an evil counterpart to Toby / the Annoying Dog because they're literally a black cat and he's a white dog
>>713045870How can hyper speculators see the Mike shit and not be blown the fuck out by Toby deliberately calling you retards for reading into every little he says or presents to you
>>713040451I can't believe Toby made me play as The Raped, Im trying to escape reality here!
>>713045953Asgore would 100% lose on purpose
>>713045345At least it's funny to watch
>>713043982>no chapter 3 freedom theme
>>713041501>"being a perfect angel to people who have gleefully murdered children and will continue to do so"How do people take this away from undertale? You can beat every monster into submission, mock and maim them, and you literally can't get the true pacifist ending without killing at least one monster. If you chose to act yellow baby Jesus or think getting a neutral ending is bad when you yourself think monsters are despicable you're kind of an idiot.
>>713045964exception that proves the rule. he only did this ONCE and abstained every other time, thus it's logical to assume he did this one opportunistically, or because he was pressured into it.
>>713045964>/pol/tard takes every opportunity to start political shitflingingThey have a whole board for you, it's time to go back >>>/pol/
>>713045964Yes the police are gigantic pussy faggots
>>713045979I thought the evil counterpart to Toby Fox was Sebastian Wolff
>>713045646>Ralsei holding Kris tight and petting his head and calling him a "good boy" while Kris furiously humps into Ralsei's fluffy tummy and pants and bites his ears and neckI've gotten at least 50% gayer since these Chapters dropped
>>713045953There would be never any attempt for Asgore to raise hand on Toriel no matter what would happen
>>713046040Its contrary, because The Knight is opressive.
>>713045964He isn't wrong
>>713046040have this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsXXKQ_nl30
>>713045964Based toby, making incels screech while also making a hugely successful progressive videogame
>>713045974Eh, not enough material. You can't make a chapter 5 prediction based on this.
>>713045964reminder that this was when people were getting lynched for not supporting saint floyd during the riots that were happening at the time
best move would've been to keep his mouth shut, but knowing some people on his team that probably wasn't an option
>>713045964>Only ever has the ONE tweet to referenceThat's the funniest thing about this image
>>713046089you were always a fucking cocksucking faggot or a troon
>>713046089such assery....
>>713046032I don't find it funny, just aggravating, because they are so comfortable with substituting their own copes into reality. It's the same shit they get mad at trannies about except less self-aware.
The internet is ruled by willful ignorance and self-delusion nowadays and I'm tired of it.
>>713046040I still basedfaced for Nightmare Knight
We don't need a schizo every Chapter, it would just make Jevil and Spamton less special. If the next one in the last I'm sure Toby will deliver
>>713046040You got the freedom to play what YOU wanted though. Isn't that good enough?
>>713046089>wyn have a cute dog kris boyfriend
>>713045964fuck off back to your containment board /pol/fag
>>713046040retard
freedom theme is present in Lost Girl (albeit a couple of notes are shuffled for some reason)
Black Knife is 90% just remixed Lost Girl
if you can't hear it it's a (You) problem
MY NAME IS THE ROARING KNIGHT OH YEAH
MY NAME IS THE ROARING KNIGHT OH YEAH
BAH BANBAN BAH BAH
BAH BANBAN BAH BAH
BADDUHBUDDUH BATTADADDADUHDUN
My name is Gaster, and I'm fucking backster-
UHN
Cause with my Goner Maker, i am Goner Make You A Goner
It's very interesting bitch, the CORE is coming to town!
So sit your ass down and get ready for a DARK FOUNTAIN!
NO! NOT THE FRIEND! NO!!!!!
>>713046164Why do you think his team and network of indie devs is full of trannies and hyper-progressives? Can you really not put two and two together on this, or do you just deeply not want to?
The tranny Lena Raine that got bullied off Twitter is credited with the "live piano editing" of Kris's piano playing in chapter 4. Do you seriously believe he would hand that off to them if he wasn't all in on believing trannies are hecking valid?
>>713043172prophecy panel?
>>713046045>You can beat every monster into submission, mock and maim themAnd yet when you fight Undyne in her house you still can't bear to hurt her for more than 1 damage because she of all people is the one Frisk wants to hurt the least apparently?
>>713046443They live in denial and don't want to accept that Toby is a pozzed fag, Suselle being confirmed will hopefully be the reality check they need
>>713045964Awesome how much seethe and cope this ALWAYS gets. Sometimes you need to put that side of the /v/ fanbase in its place
Looking forward to Kris finally BTFOing (You) once and for all
>>713045548drawfags, i am humbly requesting a dess shiggy diggy
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>>713045828you're here forever
>>713046553That Dess is insanely attractive, source?
>>713046164>reminder that this was when people were getting lynched for not supporting saint floyd during the riots that were happening at the timeThing only got this bad because no one has the guts to stand up to this woke insanity. Every time someone bends the knee because it's "safer" is pushing us further into this mad world
Will Toby Fox's UNALTERED be the new Half Life 3 of videogames?
>>713046552His attacks are undodgeable. Unbound Kris may be the strongest character in Deltarune yet.
>>713046550They shouldn't be in the fanbase at all, how do you play a game as gay as Deltarune while crying nonstop about gays?
>>713046524Hey, she was being a good host. It's only fair to be polite in return.
>>713046443the bitch that killed skullgirls is on the art team now
>>713046552The only one getting fucked up here will be Kris once I unlock my full potential.
>>713044868reminder that next soul change mechanic that's up is Muffet's and all the secret bosses that use soul change mechanics are connected to their counterpart in Undertale who used the mechanics in their fight
>>713042063Undyne never killed anyone. Asgore and Gerson are the only ones with confirmed kills.
>>713046618i wish i had a source because i also want to fuck that dess but i got it from the threads, not sure if there is a source or if an anon drew it
>>713046671>No no no no no you have to leave please leave me alone in my safe space!Suselle is cringe
Kris is a man
>>713046138>there are still people who think that Mike was a red herring when >>713040609 exists
>>713046709Let's just hope she doesn't try to pin a case on Toby too
>>713046237yeah i do really hope we get at least one more spamton-tier character out of the final chapters
but i wouldn't be surprised if we don't
>>713046730https://xcancel.com/seb_sketches/status/1931981970424414398
>>713040212Disingenuous as always, huh? Anon, people are complaining about it given how stupidly heavy-handed it is to the point it feels artificial and hollow, the scene is a trainwreck in a not humorous sense in context. While it makes sense for Noelle since she's an actual gamer girl, it doesn't as much for Susie when she doesn't play as much and yet somehow knows enough about it and when she even picks on nerds about it. The chapter even had something akin to the game she mentions and yet, you don't see Susie such piping up much about it.
The cherry on top of the trainwreck, is that the author's only intent about the whole thing, as if it's a smack across the face, is to say that they truly bonded over a vidya. It's like if let's say a co-worker asked if you watched a movie, you said you only watched a part of it while he finished it until the end, and by the end of the conversation he has the gall to say "Wow man, we sure bonded and got close together, huh?".
If even after all that, you don't get it, let's put it in thr simplest way possible.
It's FORCED.
>>713046552Kris is a little bitch and doesn't even have the determination to pull his own life together.
>>713040936Not exactly beating the allegations here with that reaction
>>713047012Anon, Susie already bonded over vidya with Berdly all the way back in chapter 2.
>>713046983>tied to a chair and asked if she's hungry>it isn't feederism porndisappointment
>>713046443So far Deltarune isnt shit
When Toby worked with Andrew Hussie on Homestuck Hussie hired a bunch of progressive faggots that absolutely effected the story and ended up fucking up shit. This eventually lead to Andrew Hussie having a completely mental breakdown and the comic having a fucking SHIT ending.
Since Toby first hand experienced these events I hope he doesn't follow the same trajectory as Hussie. So far Deltarune is keeping up in quality and its still very much Toby( and Temmies) game. There are some cautious signs BUT so far stuff is good.
I think Kris has They/Them pronouns because it
>Connects them to the Undertale kids
>Hints at them being multiple people (Kris and YOU sharing a body and the extra Kris in the closet)
>Helps self inserting so that the twist that Kris isn't YOU is more shocking
>Allows Toby to support the gays without getting too controversial
>Allows Kris to bang whoever without upsetting anyone
It's not for any one reason
>>713040936Better to break them to this now so when Suscelle is canon they won't shoot up their school
>>713047035He spent his whole life with the Doe, yet it took the soul to get him laid.
Is there any hope for the lad?
>>713041649(including bisexuals):
>Alphys>Undyne>Susie>Noelle>very likely Burgerpants and Nice Cream Guy>the Royal Guards>Berdly
>>713047142IPGD, one of the most vapid cunts who got into Hussie's head and killed HS, worked on Undertale. I want to say that's good, because that means Toby still got his shit done without falling into complete retard-poisoning even with people like that around. But I also want to say that's bad because holy shit dude you've got Mariel fucking Cartwright working on your indie game now and if that was any bigger of a red flag we'd call it 2fort.
>>713046983How many times we gotta tell you niggas that Asriel is a bum who doesn't care about Dess anymore?