2025... i am forgotten....

how many zoomers do you think got bullied for imitating this guy and sans in middle school

>>713672835 (OP)
Well, he's gonna be at least a little useful due to Magic buff since she's becoming Paladin and all.

>>713672973
Oh my god I hadn't even thought about that.
Imagining some nerd-ass middle schooler trying to stand up to an asshole bully by misquoting Sans' "bad time" dialogue is the funniest fucking thing, holy shit.

>>713673128
That tp discount and magic buff are too good. kek

>>713672973
Less than the kids doing Friday Night Funkin imitations.

>>713673424
Oh Jesus fuck, don't remind me.

>>713672835 (OP)
he does appear in 3 (voice only) if you use Susie's bet act in the final fight with Tenna, provided you have either of his items

>>713672973
Me and my friends did the eh-eh-eh sans voice at each other in middle school and I used to hum Megalovania on my way back home.
Don't feel embarrassed about it though.

>>713672835 (OP)
I just noticed his tail is straight-up a J.

>>713673668
zased

>>713673379
The problem is that Rude Buster may get obsoleted if she and Ralsei indeed will switch their roles, and JusticeAxe seems to be better for situations where we have to FIGHT. But we'll see.

>>713673707
j for gevil

>>713673796
That's why you get both of 'em, mah boi.

>>713673796
It's kind of ironic how as of chapter 4, the knife is better for support and the tail is better for damage.

I can't do anything.

Some one hit me with the asgore making roadkill gif so I can get out of the thread.

>>713672835 (OP)
I never forgot about jevil

>>713674079

>>713672973
they're impersonating tenna now

https://music.apple.com/us/album/taxidermy-single/1787334307
>December 24, 2024

>>713672835 (OP)
Jevil is cool but there's not much to him really

>>713674208
who's tenna

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxu9uBbCNJU

>>713672973
Not nearly as much as the kids who had typing quirks and treated troll romance as a real thing

>>713674290
tenna these nuts

>>713674143
based

>>713672835 (OP)
What does it mean when Susie uses these sprites again? The ones with the hair covering her eyes

>>713674290
>I have a small white penis

>*beep* *beep* *beep*
>c-chaos chao- *cough*
>*beep* *beep* *beep*
>I can.... do anything.....
>*BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP*

>>713674337
>okay so hes like woody and he has the freedom motif

gaster is the still the egg man and nothing save for a signed affidavit by toby fox himself will ever change my mind

>>713674143
GOAT roadkill poster

>>713674438
Closing off her heart

>>713674359
what the FUCK am i reading
>Heart (Matespritship/A Matesprit): Basically just human love: reproductive quadrant

>Spades (Kismetude/A Kismesis): Human love but replace mutual love with mutual hate, both participants help to better the other: reproductive quadrant

>Diamonds(Moirallegiance/A Moirail): Soulmates, the purpose is to pacify a partner who is dangerous, keep them grounded: non-reproductive quadrant

>Clover (Auspisticism/An Auspistice): A 3-way quadrant, 1 "facilitator" stops the other two participants from developing a full-blown kismetude, only the "facilitator" is known as the auspistice: non-reproductive quadrant

>>713674449
lmao

>>713674359
>tfw no one from that time is around to remember that people going to comicon like events cosplaying as the trolls were drug raping people

God I miss the old time

>>713674143

>>713674438
Thinking about her dad's Hi-Point carbine that is still stashed inside her locker at school.

>>713672973
You’d be surprised at how apathetic kids are nowadays. They don’t even have the energy to be cringe anymore. They’re just silent and live on their phones.

>>713674635
I went to a few cons with my then girlfriend in my teen years and I would constantly hear shit like "oh yeah so and so are moirails now" without a hint of tongue in cheekiness. Homestucks were something else, man.

>>713674635
Purest crack for shipbrained women

>>713674438
she generally only starts doing it when she's upset, but there have been a few times where she does it with kris with no hostility
it's probably because there are a few expressions that are only on the eyes covered portraits

Me on the right.

>>713674767
oh they do still act cringy, it’s just all online now
why else do you think these threads and especially xitter can be so retarded

I hope it turns out true that Seam used to be Dess' doll.
And that FRIEND looks the way it does cause it's a Dark copy of Seam, either made up by Dess in her loneliness whole or some demonic force in the Dark taking the form to appeal to her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OobVFldn6As

>>713674635
>"ok there's no fucking way clubs can be even more retarded than spades and diamonds"
needless to say, i was proven wrong.

>>713674635
In homestuck trolls are an alien species that are the precursor/creators of humanity, in a very roundabout way. To emphasize their alien-ness and complexity, Hussie decided to take human romance (heart) and add the other three suits. I think the underlying intention wasn't quite as autistic as the fans made it, it was just supposed to be silly overcomplicated alien culture but played straight in typical Hussie fashion.

>>713674635
Andrew Hussie trying to parody shippers but then playing it completely straight and thereby pandering like absolute hell to shippers

Note: Homestuck itself does lampshade how mindblowingly retarded and evolutionarily unnecessary the troll romance quadrants are, and how little auspice and morail systems actually matter to anybody, even being counterproductive to the entire idea of a relationship in clover/auspicism's case (exists for no reason but to cockblock a black/kismesis relationship)

xhe's back!

CHADly
KINGly
GODly

>>713674635
You forgot the best part - government drones that will fucking kill you if you fail to give them two buckets of cum that you filled with your lover and hater.

>>713674635

Do you guys have a headcanon about why is the roaring knight so strong?
LOVE?
Some kind of dark corruption?
Mastery of Dark magic?
Regardless of the Roaring Knight's "Darksona", remember the Knight should be a lightner... yet the Knight seems to be extremely proficient in dark world matters, combat and magic.

>>713675405
nigga please do not tell me they categorize romances with lucky fucking charms

>>713674635
>>713675405
i'm really glad the closest toby got to this shit was the tea, which he immediately nipped in the bud as soon as he possibly could.

>>713675354
Oh boy, who could forget about the incest slurry.

>>713675301
who

>>713675469
>about why is the
haha esl

We all know we're going to have to fight Susie one route or another.

>dodging of gerson
>can heal herself to full at any time
>stats boost every chapter, so stats maxed out at chapter 7 (she already has the best stats in chapter 1 to start with)
>schizo weapons/armor sides with her, so she has the best equipment
>bloodlusted

What is the name of her final boss theme?

>>713675469
the hilt of the swords heavily resembles reaper bird's wings, taken from final froggits

>>713675556
Vs. The Dragon

>>713675556
vs. susie (reprise)

I think it's been long enough.

It's time to start speculation on who the next schizo boss will be.

>>713675405
Genuinely funny and the exposition happens to a character who could not give less of a fuck

>>713672973
i know a kid that was larping as ralsei and got raped/molested at a party, we are both adults now mind you and now he is like some twitter tranny shut in with a patreon, he does not draw or voice act or anything its just a patreon

>>713674461
I like that freedom motif in those boss fights. The Woody thing is meh to me, I just like cowboys man, they're cool.

>>713675469
If they're in fact Dess, they've probably been stuck in the Dark for years. Attuned to it.

>>713675556
phase 1: Susie Strikes Back
phase 2: AT LAST, WAS THE GIRL

>>713675661
Hard telling, really. Gerson and the Knight completely flipped the idea to "schizo bosses" being more pivotal figures rather than entities actually driven insane or otherwise knowing too much.

>>713672973
>He didn't imitate Spamtom

>fantasy roles in undertale turn into modern equivalents in deltarune
>the guard captain is the police chief, the royal scientist is a teacher
>gaster was also the royal scientist but is no longer
>there is an unused classroom, perhaps once filled by another teacher
>the dark world in this classroom holds the scarlet forest, which has one of the least ambiguous musical references to gaster's theme, and first sighting of the egg man
>egg man appears in future chapters, but those areas don't really reference his theme, and when he appears he's still behind a tree from the forest in the classroom

The connection is clear, but what does it mean?

>>713675556
Axe Of Justice.

>>713675469
>dess is the knight
>dess was originally one of the prophecy heroes before shit went south and everything got fucked up, prompting carol to use the fun gang as plan B to fulfill the prophecy
>dess as the knight is so powerful because she's already been through most of the prophecy adventure and gained lots of levels from sealing fountains

>>713675661
Seam.

>>713675708
me too, no freedom motif in chapter 3 is criminal

>>713675479
>>713675521
To be fair, that particular part was a self-parody. There's another race with 9 quadrants, except it is never clearly explained because literally no one gives a fuck except for one character.

>>713675691
>gets raped
>immediately whores out online
many such cases unfortunately

>>713675556
Pacifists: love gets to the girl
Snowgraves: LOVE gets to the girl

>>713674143
fuck apparently didn't save it, anyone have the pic where someone redrew the asgore overworld sprite with the "devious" face?

>>713675661
the very term "schizo boss" has ended up a product of excessive pattern recognition
extra bosses with shadow crystals can be anything and everything

>>713675661
flowey

>>713675661
If they aren't the main figures of the area they will definitely be the super boss

>>713675661
Seam or Asgore, really.

>>713675845
game even baits you with ramb as a primo shadow crystal target and violence/freedom obsessor and he never got one and nobody likes him

>>713675661
Flowey! Flowey the Flower! (no relation)

>>713675890
>nobody likes him
slander

>>713675691

>>713675556
>schizo weapons/armor sides with her
Not really. Spamton's stuff is made with Ralsei in mind, and Knight gives a weapon to Kris.

>>713675661
They prefer the term "shadow crystal holder"

>THE CHILDREN FOLLOWED THE POINTED TAIL
>FRIEND has been stalking us the entirer time since Chapter 2 started
>FRIEND shares the exact same laugh sound as the Knight
>Dess hears "scratching" in the code
>Amalgam shares the same motifs as Black Knife
>Spamton's dialogue option for the Knight is replaced by FRIENDS
>Friend Inside Me
VERY
VERY
INTERESTING

>>713675919
in game, it's true

>>713672835 (OP)
>King still mentions him in chapter 4
>Seam his best friend is going to be very important in the future, possibly even the true mastermind
>Spamton is shown to still be himself even as an item, opening up further interactions
You are a fool if you sold your Jevil stocks. He will have more importance in later chapters than he did in chapter 1.

>>713676015
Maybe Kris liked him, also Tenna apparently

so how many shadow crystals does asgore have?

>>713675797
>>713675890
Chapter 3 has no shadow crystal (with the exception of the Knight, of course) because Kris made that Dark Fountain.
In the other Dark worlds, the Knight/or another Dark entity gives a specific character a shadow crystal.

>>713675691
>there are adults on 4chan who were in middle school when Chapter 1 of Deltarune was released
Jesus dick

>>713676125
tenna thought ramb was a sketchy "good for nothing"

>>713672835 (OP)
I've seen hundreds of pre pubescent teenagers use this guy as an avatar.

>>713675661
>>713675984
I think our FRIEND is going to be one of those shadow bosses.

>>713673796
The bigger issue is the darkness mechanic making TP much more valuable. We'll definitely be fighting Titans more often, and I doubt we'll have any TP to spare since we'll need it for ACTs

>>713675661
papyrus (potential unleashed)
every SOVL color has been related to their UT counterpart and a fantasy along with it (mettaton NEO, spamton being "what if mettaton neo was a real fight") (undyne, gerson being "how strong was gerson back in the day?")
papyrus obviously has something more going on with him, if its to the point of him having a different personality, then "what if papyrus didnt hold back and wasnt a nice guy" is a good bet
>asgore
asgore will be the main boss

>>713675812
There can't be 9 quadrants dipshit

>>713675556
I imagine she'll definitely fight you on weirdroute after some shit you pull, and probably Noelle running to her as the only one she trusts to protect her.
>the fight is hard as fuck and nigh-unwinnable and she keeps getting back up when knocked down
>halfway in she stops holding back and says something like the "Fine... I'm done talking" line from the Knight fight
>afterwards, on her turns you can see the little battle menu on her side as she uses TP to use skills on you, really hammering in the "she's the protagonist" vibes

>if you wiggle the controller the right way you can get the selector over to the other side, but it refuses to let you pick anything
>noelle's hiding behind her, so her menu pops up too and she'll actually be forced to follow your commands, but Susie keeps dodging normal attacks and using her party's TP before you have enough for anything good
>eventually she starts saving up TP for her ultimate skill
>snowgrave costs slightly less to use

>>713675627
I wager that Toby's not keen to repeat himself, but god I sure wouldn't mind a return of Hyperdeath Azzy.

>>713676234
Okay, I went to find some appropriate quote from Karkat about this and instead found a fucking gramophone. TOOOOOOOBYYYYYYYYYYYY
I've got to delete that Unofficial Collection already

>>713675661
if we keep up the trend of reverse undertale then it has to be someone with a blue soul gimmick with a direct connection to papyrus

>>713676703
>Reverse undertale
I know spamton was yellow soul but what others have we seen?

>>713676325
The Knight fight was like 50% Asriel

>>713676703
It's gonna be sans, isn't it?

>>713675469
Gaster fucking with stat values behind the scenes.

>>713676804
Gerson pulls out green (UT Undyne)

>>713676804
Gerson was green. Purple got skipped but if Ramb didn't take his meds he probably would've been purple

>>713676703
we are going to beat the shit out of sans

Is discussion dying?

>>713677009
Better not, I just finished it night before last

>>713676901
>just inventing abilities out of nowhere for characters whose existence is literally tenuous
Stop this.

>>713676889
a sans rematch is near the top of my wishlist.

>>713677009
There's like three fucking threads up so everyone is scattered.

>>713675661
all those replies, looks like no one remembers that chair is gonna kick your ass

>>713675253
The trolls were supposed to be taking the piss out all different kinds of terminally online retards, with the relationship quadrants shitting on overly complicated shipping discussions
Then these people started giving him money and the rest of history

How come Ralsei never mentions the Dark World in the shelter in 4? He had to have been aware of it at some point because he can sense them. He was also aware of when the door of the church popped open

>>713677413
Gaster told him not to.

>>713674635
Where did you find this?

>>713677413
there's no reason to mention it

Beat snowgrave 1-4(well 2-4) what a good time. Now its time for normal route.

>>713677413
ralsei is not be be trusted or did you miss that part in chapter 1?

So one thing I haven't seen talked about a lot is how similar the beginning of the dark worlds in chapter 1 and 3 are. I don't really see why it would be that way unless kris opened both of those fountains, but that seems unlikely for the chapter 1 fountain.

>>713677204
which chair? chairiel? the dark chair? Susie's bedroom chair?

>>713674208
>the idea of today’s elementary/middle schoolers doing a spiritual rehashing of prime undertale fandom kids a decade later, just with different characters
big if true

>>713677413
If he knows something doesn't means he will mention it. You should've learned that already by now. Plus all this "I sensed a dark fountain and ran over to you" is most likely a bullshit too and he is transported between dark worlds by Knight or Kris anyway.
>chapter 1
Knight planted him in advance to greet the heroes, and told him all the details of Prophecy
>chapter 2
As soon as Susie and Kris enter the Dark World, Knight goes to school to fetch Ralsei. That's why he appears with a delay
>chapter 3
Kris brought him over from school during bathroom break
>chapter 4
Knight brought him over with herself to the church. That's why he was wandering there before Kris and Susie arrived.

>>713677693
*Kris brought him over from school during bathroom break and that's why he joins the Shit Squad almost immediately
fuck

nips really seem to love these three

>toriel helps susie out when shes new
>first thing she does is bully her son
What the fuck Susie

>>713677635
my assumption is kris learned he can open his own fountain in chapter 2 when queen is explaining it which leads him to make the fountain to distract Susie and Ralsei. There are like four different parties trying to influence the world/prophecy maybe more who the hell knows.

>>713677626
Can't wait for the metanarrative bullshit where Kris from your Snowgrave file teams up with the Kris from your Pacifist file and the Kris from your normal file.

>>713677774
they cute

>>713672835 (OP)
I managed to avoid the threads from 2018 until just before chapter3/4, but now I'm going here daily, it seems there's no going back anymore
but they brought some light in my sad life, thanks anons.

>>713675691
>i know a kid that was larping as ralsei and got raped/molested at a party
Do you know who did it? Were they caught?

our wonderful main bosses

>>713677635
considering all the black goop and spooky eyes, i believe those parts are "primordial darkness" of the dark world, beyond whatever influence objects in the light world bring

>>713672973
i didnt have any friends in middle school but there was this one fat mexican girl who knew i played undertale so she would autismdump homestuck information at me
she was very kind

>>713677840
I'm glad I was here around when chapter 1 dropped. Even though it took me a while to realize what the deltarune threads actually were.

>>713677840
You're welcome anon, I like deltarune threads too.

>>713677774
The Mike room is funny as shit, I'm not surprised

So... somebody just posted Temmie Chang nudes...

>>713677774
do they even have context for the whole mike joke? was woody theory a thing over there?

>>713677781
He looks so unhappy despite having the model mother and probably a great home life, the fuck does he have to be so miserable about?

>desperately trying to find a way to make chess theory still work

>Another 4 years for the next chapters

>>713677939
i want this bodytype so bad but i have a potbelly and i need to eat so i can gain any muscle

>>713678083
it was replaced with jackstein maze

>>713677781
She's jealous of him and thinks he doesn't deserve such a great mom like Toriel. Susie should have her instead.

>>713674359
this was me

>>713678107
Stop eating fat ass

I was an Undertale fan in high school but I didn't have any friends and was totally silent unless directly asked a question so I was emulating Frisk (along with Ness, Crono, Link and Gordon Freeman) without anyone knowing.

>>713678012
why did she do it bros

>>713678125
>>713678080
She has Alphis tho
Oh god

Is Ralsei a timepooper?

>>713678083
>desperately trying
How can you even refute it at this point with a knight and goes in 3 and 4?

>>713674635
The more I hear about Homestuck the more I wish I never heard of it at all.

>>713678104
toby comment on how nobody wanted to wait that long for 3-5 makes me think he wont waste time for 6-7, 2 years minimum

>>713677814
Can't be, Kris was planning it since the end of Chapter 1.

>>713677774
Mute Mike as anything other than a dancing cat is wrong.
But I do agree it's a really cute dynamic. I love these three morons

>>713678104
>he doesn't know
2026 trust the plan

>>713677774
I hope they draw them having gay threesomes

>>713678083
>King
>Queen
>Knight
>Tower
Next should be bishop. And lastly the pawn

>>713677916
A playing card, a school laptop, your TV, and fear of darkness given physical form. A happy family

>>713678234
Most Homestuck readers feel the same way.

>>713678195
No, the ending just fucking sucks and Ralsei hopes that if we just did something out-of-the-box like going about the adventure peacefully, then the prophecy would be effected somehow.

He was gay in undertale

>>713678245
hopefully he stops trying to take a million extra projects for other games until he actual finishes the one hes working on first to make it happen

>>713678252
I haven't seen this yet, that's really interesting.

>>713678254

>>713678104
>thinking its only gonna be 4 years
lol

he deserved better

>>713677840
you missed out, the SURVEY_PROGRAM threads when it dropped out of fucking nowhere were great

Not sorry for making this

>>713678234
As long as you completely ignored the community it was a fantastic story to follow
Then it went WAAAAAAY up its own ass and started having year-long hiatuses and I still haven't finished despite being a reader since like act 2

>>713678313
The word you're looking for is "bisexual".

>>713672835 (OP)
havent played it yet

>>713677591
someone asked for an explanation on plebbit, first search result
https://www.reddit.com/r/homestuck/comments/fkmiu7/troll_romance/

>>713678252
This lines up with Tenna saying he talked with Kris about the plan for Chapter 3 in advance. My guess is that Kris pulled up the Fountain at the end of Chapter 1 (hence the knife) to talk to Tenna, and then ate the pie.

>>713678383
I believe I did see the original threads and discovered it from there, but I didn't stick around for long, It was 7 years ago so things were different

out of the current theories what is the biggest red herrings right now. my vote is anything doing with holiday family but that is just me.

>tfw likely thousands of Toby's fans have died waiting for the new chapters
>tfw even more of Toby's fans will die waiting for the game to be finished
Pick it the fuck up you sutpid dog

>>713678367
I want a pet mantle

>>713678367
Don't feel too bad 'bout a simple plug, luv.

>>713675751
Bitch I was Spamton before it was cool

>>713678367
Maybe there's still a chance out there he can actually get to see Kris be happy again

>>713678464
The prophecy.

>>713678384
you didn't make this
but beside that
>making carol bro
lmao

>>713678464
The one theory I believe in is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjPGRSwTqws

>>713678384
It's basically true. Carol is Roxy + Dirk combined.

>he beat jevil with pacify
You didn't win and you lost one of the most vital weapons for susie

>>713678160
ok

>>713678554
Katana in the kitchen looks exactly like Dirk's sword.

>>713678571
Enjoy Susie hitting you for max damage on chapter 7

>>713678464
200% Carol.

The UTY really elevated the autism levels in UT discussion but I loved the threads, that game was really inspiring for me.

>>713678571
Isn't Pacify harder? I always beat him with violence because I'm a shitter.

>>713673424
>>713673465
Dare I ask?

>>713674208
They really aren't, nobody under 20 gives a fuck for UT/DT, all the older zoomers that played Undertale as kids are now in their 20s and in a ruined job market. The kids play Roblox.

>>713678383
anyone got a link to the old threads?

>>713678601
>mfw the Darkner it becomes is basically just Bro Strider

>>713678613
>miss

>>713678571
I still beat the Knight's ass so I don't mind.

>>713678571
Devilsknife jobs to JusticeAxe

>>713678554
the best part of the four predecessor kids was that roxy really loved wizards

>>713677945
we all regret not boning the autistic girls man

>>713678638
they still make weekly threads, it's just that the one for this week got taken down early because of jannies going on an autosaging spree at the sight of anything UTDR related
didn't help that some anons WERE using it as a stealth thread
>>713678696
>nobody under 20 gives a fuck for UT/DT
more like nobody who isn't a teen, or a young adult gives a fuck about it.

>>713678696
I've actually seen videos online of kids getting avatars on Roblox of their favorite Deltarune characters and trying to larp as them on hangout games.
Just because the kids play Roblox doesn't mean they can't play Deltarune as well.

>>713675354
ok listen, if this concept wasn't tied to homestuck it would be the funniest fucking thing i've ever seen
>give us the cum bucket
>sorry, it's only half full
>*GUNFIRE*

>>713673128
>>713673796
>>713673946
It's literally not even a real RPG, why are you guys pretending to talk about gameplay?

Just curious

>>713678841
i honestly just think it's odd to see anyone ITT deny that kids would be into DR, considering how that would explain all the autism with the fanbase lmao

>>713678638
>Starlo FRIEND in the bottom right
Fuck you I kek'd

>>713678451
I'm pretty sure Toby's setting up Susie to fall in love with Ralsei
>Its at his request that she actually starts listening to Kris in chapter 1
>The cyber city split up in chapter 2 not to mention how its deliberately being framed as her choice
>Ralsei hitting her with the glasses-less pretty boy eyes in queens mansion which immediately makes her fold and give them back
>Susie teaching him sarcasm and uwuspeak
>Susie going along with Tennas show at the very start because she wanted to cheer up Ralsei
>Susie none stop bugging him during the board sections
>Susie teaching him how to play games and while your doing the mantle shit
>Ralsei basically admitting he thinks Susie's a wonderful person and wants to spend as much time with her as he can
>When Noelle is talking with her in chapter 4 Susie admits she was going to choose him to take to the festival
but most importantly
>All of these interactions happens without your input or set-up, unlike the dinner or sitting at the lake
Chapter 5 or 6 its going to be clear she's got feelings for him and with Ralsei's growing freedom its going to make him betray Kris to stop whatever "sacrificial offering" plan they were orchestrating for her.

>>713678882
Well duh, it's not a real JRPG because it has actual gameplay in it betides pressing Attack button over and over again.

>>713677827
>The Roaring happens in Neutral and Pacifist files because the characters played their parts as expected
>Weird Route file stops the Roaring because of all the insane metanarrative breaking it does, which ruins the Voice's plans

>>713679007
>replying to the baiting vtumor
Anon...

>>713678464
caller≠knight

>>713678367
WHOA BLACK BETTY
RAMB ERAM

>>713678974
I'm one of the biggest Ralsusie supporters out here and even I think it's rather unlikely.
Then again, Spamton might hint at him becoming a real boy.

>>713678892
I think a lot of people here weirdly apply consolewarfag mentality to other people and assume that they can’t have multiple interests

>>713679056
I just want to see his reaction.

I like how this seems to be the most fervently debated theory of the chapters.
We went from Kris being the Knight or not to whether or not Kris slashed their friends.

Like over half the responses from Reddit are that it can't be cause it goes against Kris' characterization. Lots of people assuming Kris is too good to knock out their friends for the Knight.

>>713679058
Caller is Asgore.

>>713679054
Things end up worse despite there being no Roaring.

I NEED HER BAD

>>713679153
How am i the one trolling? man you guys really are a cult

>>713679156
He slashed his friends so that Knight wouldn't fucking kill them.

>>713678286
>Bishop
You're right, but we've already been to the church. That would've been the prime opportunity.

>it's gaster!!!
you were saying?
>official merch

i think kris is a cute girl that wears red panties

>>713679156
Kris being the Knight didn't have as much weight as this theory because we didn't know that Kris was embroiled in a conspiracy with the antagonists. I personally am a fan of it because it does a lot for Kris's character, and the alternative is "le Knight is so heckin' strong!!1"

Is this the biggest gosling-inducing moment in the actual game?

>>713679073
Fantastic post, genuinely top shelf stuff, anon

>>713679156
My theory is that the Knight is Kris' original soul and/or headband combined.

>>713679228
Turtle son could show up on the next one to help AssGore out

>>713679156
the thing is, the left side is just speculative to hell and back. there's no actual proof

>start drawing
>about to draw normal feet on Noelle
>realize halfway in I have to learn how to draw deer hooves
This shit is so much harder than I thought it would be why are they shaped so weird

>>713679297
thank you i'll be here until chapter 7

>>713679348
They get easier when you think of them like high heels.

why is he kneeling?

>>713679435
He's being knighted.

>>713679298
Is headband the new Gaster? If you can't explain something, just say it's headband.

>>713679156
>Kris characterization
He literally only intervenes when you torture his friends and he's on team genocide's side. What part of that sounds like he would never hurt susie or ralsei, even for their own good?

>>713679294
It still hurts me not to be able to do that scene and I already defeated the knight and I don't want to repeat everything, it will be in another run

>>713679435
KWAB (Kris What A Bitch)

>>713679348
Hooves are easier than feet imo, but you do have to learn them first.

>>713679156
the inconsistencies are what makes this interesting, based on all that we know it isn't a stretch that kris would side with the knight when push came to shove but there are so many bits of info that seem to contradict it that make it seem like the answer isn't straightforward

>>713679435
Gotta show respect for the boss

>>713679156
I really don't see the slash being from Kris considering how very upsetti he gets with round 3 of sword route.
Also he would have no reason to signal the knight if he could just do the slash himself.

>>713679294
That's not the diner scene.

>>713679435
He's being knighted, also what else you're supposed to do when eldritch being of absolute destruction is holding a giant fucking blade to your neck?

>>713679485
Okay but considering the Holidays and Christmas Reindeer Antlers, it'd fit.
Even still, Kris' original heart alone would make sense. We're very likely not his considering the soul is LITERALLY supposed to be the human it belongs to.

The Ketchup Kids will be the next shadow crystal bossfight.

>>713679298
How would this be meaningful or interesting
Why would Kris' soul and headband have antlers
Am I being baited

___________SNOWGRAVE__________

>>713679553
Kris could be signaling to the Knight to wrap things up, and then the Knight tries to do so by unleashing her strongest attack. It's at that point Kris realizes that the player's capable of actually defeating her and steps in to end the fight themselves. This gives Kris a knighting for staying loyal to the cause/"promise" and not breaking away from it when given an out.

>>713679348
How the FUCK do furries learn to draw so many types of animals?

Kris getting pissed off at his friends being down and resisting against the knight should be enough to debunk this theory, but w/e. We needed a new Kris is the Knight theory for the new year long discourse, I guess.

>>713679642
OH MERRY KRIIIIIIISMAAAAAAAS

>>713679553
Diner scene is great and all, but let's be fair, Susie shoving her mane in Kris' face and asking him to lick it is a nuclear bomb.

>>713679082
With how Susie really is always thinking about Ralsei in some way its not too far fetched. Now it being what makes Ralsei betray Kris or even that he betrays us at all is the unlikey part.

>>713679674
S… Snowgravy?
I… I don’t know that dish.

Whatever happened in that Shelter must have really fucked up Kris and Dess, and I mean physically on top of emotionally. The Knight is clearly a half-dead Dess held together by darkness and Kris' original soul, that's why she has GoHD shit in her kit. Kris got (You) as a replacement, and got a Goner hand from the Vessel grafted onto himself.

>>713679701
>and then the Knight tries to do so by unleashing her strongest attack
The cough comes -after- the PK Starstorm whiffs.
To me it looks like a signal that "hey I know you're having fun, but you gotta stop fooling this Soul is not gonna give up"

>>713679727
Oh fuck, Dess silhouette has horns but I never thought it could be a headband.

>>713679590
>>713679727
Kris' headband has horns
Why would this twist be written

>>713679710
Kris could just be thinking, "Hey, don't hurt them that badly! This wasn't part of the plan!"

>>713679727
Doesn't Dess have hoof-fitting stuff?
If she was a human they'd mention it anyway. Some npc would go "hey, whatever happened to that other human girl?"

How big will the shitstorm be when Dess is revealed to be a human?

The family is fighting again...

>>713679967
She does.

>>713679791
JUST GO AND COOK THAT DISH NOELLE
YOU FUCKING DOE

>>713679851
they only got us recently, though. And the bunker incident was years ago.

>>713677889
it was some nigger but the victim defended him, then a year later the victim tried suing him and his parents just moved somewhere else, yeah he got caught on the spot and the whole party pretty much stopped there, the victim kept doing his ralsei schtick even gayer and gayer well into highschool, we did not go to the same highschool thank fucking goodness

>>713679925
it'd be funny
>>713679967
it's implying that kris' horn headband was a christmas antler headband, not that dess was human

>>713679435
I'd kneel too, 2bh

never 4get, kris does appear in undertale as a debug waterfall reflection of frisk and his filename implies he was "supposed to be" the playable character, frisk and chara are identified as "mainchara" and "truechara" respectively while the reflection is just "chara"

>>713680072
Rosalina > Peach

>>713679967
I don't remember the shoes mentioning anything about being hoof-adapted, but I remember noelle saying she goes bare-hooved because hoof-adapted shoes are hard to come by/expensive

>>713680060
We only became active recently but Kris has known about ripping his soul out since he was a child. It's possible that's a coincidence but I seriously doubt it.

>>713680160
>hoof-adapted shoes are hard to come by/expensive
They're rich

>>713679979
Our hero.

>>713679967
she also has piles regular shoes in her closet, which none of her other family members wear

>>713678746
>kris will fumble the very last note even if you do manage to play the song yourself

I demand an apology from the dimwits that said that Kris and Chara were the same person/character (claiming chocolate was both of them's favorite food)
But Chapter 3 has come, and on the quiz sections it is proven that Kris's favorite food is pie.

The Knight being Asriel makes the most sense considering Kris copies how he acts and clearly has respect for him.

>>713680343
I picked chocolate cause of the Choco Diamond text desu

>>713678638
I'm some ways I liked Yellow more than Undertale.
It felt a little more grounded and less wacky/overtly sweet than the original.
Definitely the best fangame I've ever played.

>>713680304
Kris and Dess are actually the same person

>>713680075
You mind name and shaming them?

>>713680343
Pie is a family food.

>>713680343
kris is probably this game's frisk equivalent rather than it's chara equivalent. it was just thought that they were chara because of their clothes (which is just asriel's hand-me-downs) and the knife

>>713680481
>>713680490
KRIS IS KRIS
KRIS IS NOT FRISK
KRIS IS NOT CHARA
KRIS IS KRIS

>>713680490
i think the game'll probably go the route that all of them are separate people and kris isn't explicitly an alternate of frisk or chara, but definitely mechanically/thematically he's supposed to be frisk, tobert was already drawing parallels to frisk and kris as far back as undertale with some reflection sprites in debug mode

>>713680575
I'm giving reasoning as to why the TV would like pie.

>>713679156
people will forgive kris for everything until they see kris actually doing something "bad" on screen, like how most idiots didn't believe the soul and kris were 2 separated beings until the chapter 4 vent segment
and this is why toby doesn't want to make merch of the lightners, because in chapter 5 or so shit will go down and kris will be shown in a bad light

>>713675556
vs. The Hero

>>713680343
Pie was his favorite food when his family was together. Now he stuffs himself with chocolate to briefly stave off his chronic depression. But yes, this has nothing to do with Chara.

>>713680575
kris is both chara and frisk together before he (and susie) dies at the end of the game and the universe reboots into UT

>>713675919
I didn't like him at all. Gave off massive cringe vibes. Like, he was trying waaay too hard to tug at your heartstrings while being up to skeevy shit and no one else, literally not a soul liking hi,.

>>713679564
dodge obviously
legs ain't broke yet knigga

>>713680675
Cool dino

>>713676229
My prediction is that in the future (Our) soul will get to the point where it can put off enough light to force a Titan into a normal fight

>>713680343
Kris is not Frisk nor Chara and people are being retarded about this because they have same coloured shirts.

The TV thinks Kris loves pie however, because thats all he saw Kris eat in the couch while playing with Asriel. Those quiz questions are clearly Tenna's opinions and knowledges and not pure truth.

Kris favourite food could still be chocolate, that wouldn't make him Chara.

>>713680695
>Undertale is post scratch Deltarune

>>713675556
we will fight all 3 members of the gang at one point, including kris

>>713680686
>Pie was his favorite food when his family was together. Now he stuffs himself with chocolate to briefly stave off his chronic depression
Source?

>>713680696
>t. Pippin

https://files.catbox.moe/cqjnz9.mp3

How many times did you get to hear it?

>>713680641
>meanwhile Toby makes merchandise of of flower that embarked on multiple genocide runs because it was funny

>>713675661
Catti and Jockington

>>713680767
kris gives away that his favorite food is pie by coughing when you hover over pie during the question

>>713675797
>me too, no freedom motif in chapter 3 is criminal
Listen to Black Knife closer, anon

>buy tvslop for 30 points
>sell it for $90
Only [[BIG SHOTS]] do this

>>713680641
Yeah, Toby's self-insert who is obviously shown as tragic figure coerced by some nefarious forces will obviously turn out to be irredeemably evil villain.

>>713672835 (OP)
So why he wanted to fuck Midna so badly?

>>713680859
Dozens. I hate when I accidentally beat the Knight and have to reload the game.
t. going for the Cough

>>713680904
gosh i miss the chapter 2 era madness...

>>713680916
a side effect of being heterosexual

>>713672973
My friend was an extrovert who liked shit like Undertale and he had major pull so idk.
He became a furfag med student like I checked. That's just what this series does to people I guess.

>>713680859
I've been trying to beat the knight once every other day or so, gotta keep warm for chapter 5

>>713680904
you get infinite money in chapter 4

>>713680927
>t. going for the Cough
Absolute madman, good luck.

>>713680859
it took me around 14- ish times to beat the Knight, but I felt very satisfied with my gamer skills after that.
With the Shadow Mantle of course.

>>713680964
i wish spamton could've been the whole game. just spamton, all the time, every character. then it would've been kino.

>>713680641
I fucking hope. The sheer love for Kris despite the fact we know he's on Team Evil is ridiculous. It's like "No, you see all those extra actions are ALL Kris except the ones we don't like! The Soul never does anything good or nice and is just a MONSTER manipulating Kris like a puppet!!!!"

>>713680887
My point isn't what the favourite food exactly is, only that the quiz questions aren't a source of truth but yes that is correct what is your point?

>>713680441
nope, im the only other idiot that played deltarune and i was friends with him not worth the brownie points, he is becoming a lolcow so watch out for that

>>713680969
KRIS ISN'T THE ONLY ONE CAPABLE TO DO THIS

Niggas in this thread really trying to force Homestuck discussion LMAO it's 2025 bro.

>>713681048
SCREAM, Knightkrisbitch, I want to hear you SCREAM LOUDER

>>713680904
I did this [SECRET LIFEHACK] to get a lot of [KROMER], around 14k dark dollars.
Gotta get on that [Kromillionaire] grindset.

I THINK I JUST FELL IN LOVE WITH NOELLE
Snowgrave, proceed
Have you lost your mind? Tell me when you think we crossed the line
No more Susie for me, doe and thorn ring is all I need
Grab my hand and baby we'll live a hell of a route

>>713681101
Homestuck is sadly eternal.

>>713681003
I thinking of doing it without shadowmantle but getting it feels so important I can't bring myself to do it.

>>713681105
Knightkris???

>>713680793

>>713681127
I'm in love with the doe alright. Just the different doe.

>>713681101
You can't fight the Homestuck

Deltarune? No evil characters yet.

>>713681204

>>713681173
It's okay anon, Susie wearing the Mantle is probably not going to bite us in the ass when we fight her later... RIGHT?

>>713680979
If you want better, more varied training for upcoming chapters, you should play Star Of Providence instead.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/603960/Star_of_Providence/
The two lead designers for it got hired onto Deltarune about a year before 3+4 came out, and it shows. Pray to whatever god you believe in that they don't add something like Corrupted Point Zero to Deltarune.

>>713680989
Thanks, I'll need it. Hundreds of attempts and I'm about ready to throw in the towel

>>713681048
Didn't (You) rape the doe? Wasn't it (You) who made him invite Berdly to the festival? Do (You) still think you deserve a better vessel after what you did?

>>713680481
Happy families. Maybe single people eat pies, we don't know. Frankly, we don't want to know. It's a market we can do without.

>>713681238
HIT IT JOHN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrhTB2Sij8c

>>713681281
YOU did that. I didn't because I feel bad for video game characters like a weenie!

>>713681303

>>713681260
Between the sword hall and Suddenly, a tempest I knew there was no way I was ever no-hitting that thing.
Swords aren't too bad if you're just trying to live but you're practically guaranteed to get nicked.

>>713681320
And yet you can't feel bad for a poor kid going through extreme trauma. Curious!

>>713681303
this is the first time i've ever listened to this because i didn't like the cringe fan covers. i was right to not listen.

>>713681303
It's been more than a decade, you can't make me watch this again. Homestuck is over.

>>713680641
>>713681048
My schizotheory is that whatever Kris is doing is to recover Dess because Dess is the girl of the prophecy, the tragedy struck her and now she needs rescue. The entire prophecy already happened. That will completely recontextualize the story and Kris actions, but he will still not be portrait in a positive light.

Sadly the only arguments for this theory is the prophecy not matching some stuff here and there and Ralsei clearly being full of shit while being awfully accurate at the same time.

>>713681397
>Poor kid going through extreme trauma
He's helping to end the world. Bro. What?????

>>713681375
I'm at the stage where I've survived each individual attack multiple times, but doing it all in a row is ludicrously difficult. If I ace the curvy hallway, I'll get fucked up on the sword circle, and vice versa. Pic related is a dumb faggot who decided he wanted to hug one sword and die, ruining my best attempt.
I'm also not using the Devilsknife, probably would have done it by now if I was

>>713681303

>>713681080
i meant naming and shaming the rapist.

>>713681303
OH BOY ARE WE POSTING CRINGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEr4bTrR3QU

>>713681459
Actually Krissy dies saving the world while Susie calls for him
https://youtu.be/SXeftLB9UTo?si=n_XZ3hAKhaB_iUBO

>>713673796
The game rubberbands the fuck out of your damage output so the reduced casting cost of rude buster is one of the few upgrades other than armor that actually has an impact

>>713681459
>he still thinks Knight is trying to start the Roaring

What if?

How long until the next chapter? I just played undertale again after 10 years. Never played deltarune. Is it longer than undertale?

>>713674698
I remember this too. I knew some fat girl who did this to other girls and cosplayed as female trolls. She got outed all over the community and it even went viral within the fandom. Crazy times.

>>713681681
December 31st, 2026

Anyone else feel like people are expecting way too much Gaster to actually be involved in the game?

I feel like if he is, it'll only be a small bit near the end. I don't think he like made Ralsei or anything like that.
Don't even think he did the Shadow Crystal stuff anymore. Seems more likely to me that Friend and Dess/The Knight set all that shit up as something to fuck over Gaster's whole game in their own way.

>>713681681
At least one entire year

>>713681676
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>713681592
Nice headcanon on something scrapped?? He's still helping evil people.
>>713681657
It made a Titan! What is wrong with you two?!

>>713681303
national anthem of cringekino

>>713681558
some apostrophe nigger name williams

>>713681681
January 1st, 2026

>>713681710
Toby's fault for teasing this nigga since Undertale

>>713681734
>He's still helping evil people.
Against his will
>It made a Titan!
Then why it didn't do it earlier, at the point when nobody could've done anything about it?

>>713674635
>>713675284

Homestuck lampshades pretty much everything it does because Hussie is a terminally dishonest, irony-poisoned mental midget and his style of writing essentially boiled down to doing something stupid, going "isn't that stupid??" and then doubling down on it instead of writing anything that could be considered "fun" or "rewarding." It's a drama where none of the characters give a fuck about what's happening; it's a video game where the video game mechanics are never really elaborated upon and might as well not exist after a point. It's a character study where the characters all fumble about for thousands of pages and learn nothing about themselves or anyone else; it's a comedy that isn't funny.

I thank God that Toby Fox actually tries to engage his audience emotionally and wants them to have a fun time, Homestuck was a 12-year-old's piss-take wrapped in a mystery box wankfest, and there's no point in describing it as anything but someone trying and failing at a lot of things within the same framing device. At least some of the characters were hot.

>>713680904
>spend $10k on points
>win the Tenna statue and 9 Lancers
>end with 1488 points
I LOVE TV

>>713678619
This. I believe that Asgore is actually head honcho and Carol is helping him because of Dess but Asgore is in full delusion mode. The December incident must have been big and shaken the Dremur/Holiday relationship to the core. To the point that Asgore and Carol were affected the most and Asgore sold Carole that they can fix it.
>Why does Asgore have access to the Holiday house?
>when Kris called about the guitar, Asgore came first, with Carol mind you but he was the first one you see after the call
>Asgore has access to Carol's room
>"We'll be a family again" speech by him"
>Rudy may be weirded out by this as there seems to be some sort of marriage trouble with the Toriel exchange when he corrects her to call her carol instead of wife.
>the prophecy of the flower man going to the asylum
This post is messy as fuck but I believe that Asgore putting a lot more weight around than we think to the point I think he convinced Kris to help team knight "We can be a family again and bring Dess back Kris!" .

>>713681813
Do you know where he moved?

>>713681734
what’s with this exaggerated speaking lol

>>713681710
It's still entirely possible that Gaster is simply watching THE DELTARUNE closely, not interacting much with it.

>>713681681
>How long until the next chapter?
There are three possible dates:
02.13.2026, to coincide with the date where Dess dessappeared
12.25.2026 - do I need to explain?
06.06.2026 - Gaster's number, was revealed to me in a dream and I unironically predicted the previous date in my dream so it's the likeliest variant

>>713681859
>Against his will
Zero proof. All we know is that there's a promise, schizo.
>Then why it didn't do it earlier, at the point when nobody could've done anything about it?
Because it didn't have to since it was kicking their ass earlier. Explain why it did make something that explicitly would end the world? Maybe because it's evil?

>>713681710
hes had a lot of buildup and a bunch of very plot important details seem to be linked to him. toby would be a fool not to cash out on the biggest mystery he has been building up for 10 years now

>>713674143
Oh deer...

>>713681285
lol

So why IS the church trashed??

>>713674143

>>713678012
Someone's just...walking around...doing that?

>>713681993
>Ralsei's version of the prophecy shows Susie with an axe
>The actual complete prophecy shows Susie with a sword
uhm... bros?

>>713681993
Another possibility:
22nd of February. 2202. It was written on the most important character after all.

>When a new man arrives in town.

>K-K-Kris is LE EVI-
Don’t care.
My favorite? SpamGOD.

>>713682064
idk if you remember this but the roaring started for just a second

>>713682087
Noelle can equip swords and ribbons. Rude Buster symbol is actually just the generic symbol for magic attacks(which Noelle also does).

>>713682000
>Zero proof
You're gonna look real stupid next year.
>Explain why it did make something that explicitly would end the world?
Explain why it didn't do it earlier if its plans were to end the world? "Okay, I want to blow up the city and I have a nuke, what should I do with it? Oh right, NOT activate the nuke!"

>>713682064
A FUCKING TITAN DROPPED

>>713682064
Because the Knight was looking for something/someone.

Could be Toriel. Could be Alvin. Could be something related to the Code if the Knight doesn't already have that.

>>713681571
I still like the original song

>>713681893
>when Kris called about the guitar, Asgore came first
i feel like a moron for just now realising it could've been asgore referring to kris in third person on the phone call if he was with carol then

>>713682096
But it's not working with the retarded American date system. It should've been 2022 instead.

>>713682097
I still can't believe she fucked a stranger she'd only known for two days.

>>713682160
is no one going to mention that the Knight's laugh is very similar to the Mantle's laugh?

>>713682157
what would titans be in the light world?

>>713682096
>It was written on the most important character after all
Holy shit, how didn't we notice it before?

>>713674635
>>713675521
This scares me because it hints at how Toby Fox himself sees romance

>>713682141
>You're gonna look real stupid next year.
You look stupid now.
>Explain why it didn't do it earlier if its plans were to end the world?
It's actively moving towards the Roaring and kidnapping people for a mysterious additional goal.
>"Okay, I want to blow up the city and I have a nuke, what should I do with it? Oh right, NOT activate the nuke!"
It did though. We only stopped it thanks to Gerson. The town was doomed without him. You're literally just ignoring facts and straight up lying to defend your position.

>>713682241
More evidence that ERAM is just The Knight fucking with Kris so they'll feel motivated enough to fight for the Shadow Crystal they got.

Also would fit since it's possible the Mantle always belonged to Dess/The Knight given Noelle's response when refusing to equip it.

>>713682237
to be fair, people think kris and susie are in love and they've only really known each other for two days.

>>713682194
Asgore is in the house at that time dude... Not on the phone...

>>713682275
I think that's an impossibility. Given that they are, effectively, fountains themselves, I think they remain shrouded in a Dark World at all times.
Remember that the Roaring plunges the whole world into darkness.

>>713682314
The fuck are you talking about? Romance writing in chapter 4 was top-notch. If anything, Toby learned how not to do things from Homestuck. We're not getting any bullshit like this in Deltarune.

I can't believe Starwalker FUCKS...

>>713681902
atlanta

>>713682275
If I had to take a guess, I would say they'd look like shadow people with their actual titan form. They are made of a darkness that simple light cannot break or bend.
Only the LIGHT of your SOUL can do something.

>>713682368
Yeah, but they're not fucking. It's the next level of relationship.

>>713682368
They went to hell and back together, though. Toriel and Sans met couple of times at convenience store.

>>713682365
I don't think it makes sense for eram to be the knight if you believe the black deer represents Dess

>>713682434

>>713682502
No, he literally fucks. With Elnina and Lanino.

>>713682124
How does the roaring start exactly? Is it just opening a fountain in a dark world? Could we make as many fountains in the over world as we want?

>>713682000

>>713682237
In her family home...in her husband's bed...it's fucked up bro. WTF

>>713682434
No wonder why barely anyone draws Elina, what the fuck was that about

>>713682482
It's more likely that ERAM is connected/is a part of dark dess, and Dess is the Knight

>>713682530
It's both.

>>713682532
i think it's multiple titans awakening at once and fucking shit up

>>713675556
>What is the name of her final boss theme?
Megalopissmeoff
implying she won't get the soul at some point, foreshadowed by the various times we "played" as her

>>713680982
how?

>>713682542
Yeah. We know it's got goals other than the roaring but it also made a titan. That thing that could have killed Kris, Susie, and everyone in town if it weren't for Gerson being stupidly OP.

>>713682570
I still feel like it's kind of a stretch.

>>713682097
They call her Whoriel for a reason.

>>713682661

>>713682482
>>713682570
The black deer thing is meant to be Dess, or at least what she was.
And it's the only thing Kris kills in the game themself, because they know ERAM is just what's left of Dess fucking with them extremely and is done with their shit by that point.

Think Asriel to Flowey. The Knight/ERAM isn't really Dess anymore, it's what remains of Dess without her compassion.

>>713682661
>>713682732
KEKK

>>713682324
>We only stopped it thanks to Gerson.
all according to keikaku btw

>>713682097
did somebody say BONER?

>>713681993
There's also the 11 year anniversary of Undertale's release, September 15th 2026

>>713682757
Eeeh, I doubt it. It's more likely to be FRIEND's body/hand (considering we see the eyes, mouth and ERAM in seperate rooms on MANTLE board 1) or Ramb.

>>713682673
>if it weren't for Gerson being stupidly OP.
Too bad she couldn't have known about him OH WAIT

What the fuck did they mean by this

>>713682839
Wow
I can’t believe undertale is old enough to have sex with
How time flies

>>713682757
That makes sense actually. It would fit as an analogy to asriel/flowey too. and since Asriel and Dess were friends...

>>713675770
Oooo
That's a good one so I'm not the only one who thinks Carol knows about everything, huh? Maybe she was also a party member capable of casting snowgrave at some point, that's why she was so cold... andshe wants Noelle to follow in her footsteps

>>713672835 (OP)
How can he be forgotten if his leitmotif is used in the most popular tracks?

>>713682757
Kris working with the knight seems to disprove this. She obviously has some level of awareness left or she wouldn't be able to knight kris or recognize the cough he does when you no-hit her. Kris smiling during the battle also implies that he's at least happy to see her winning.

>>713682803
Look, if time loop theory is real, that'd actually be a legit strategy.
>>713682852
OH DAMN I totally forgot they had super psychic powers to know that a guy who was magicless and powerless in the light world would be ridiculously OP in the Magic world
You sure showed me, anon. They totally had future sight to predict that.
Actual fucking retard I swear.

>>713682097
>>713682814
Kek

>>713682946
you mean the same leitmotif as the main theme? thats not his

>>713682436
Can you be more specific than "apostrophe nigger"? Le'shawn, De'marcus, ect?

>>713682814
>I fucked your mom in every universe

>>713682548
Do those kind of clothes have a name? They are cute.

>>713682418
Opinion disregarded

>>713675751
>POV You actually imitate Spamtom in real life

>>713682976
World Revolving motif =/= Don't Forget motif

>>713682913
>Carol wants to prevent the end of the world through Snowgrave/Weird Route
>Kris and the Knight want to prevent the end through... Dark Power? Dark Ritual? Darksona power training?
Choose your faction anons

>>713673668
>Me and my friends did the eh-eh-eh sans voice at each other in middle school
>middle school

>>713682157
It makes me wonder, though, what do titans look like in the lightworld if darkners are just toys and everyday inanimate objects?

>>713683093
I choose the Lancer Fan Club

So why didn’t the Knight open a million fountains at the start

>>713683187
because their actual goal has nothing to do with causing the end of the world

>>713683158
You can't see them, but they're always there.
>It's the fear-of-dark.
>It's the bump-in-the-night.
>It's the shadow of the backside of your mind.

>>713682848
FRIEND doesn't make sense. The boss literally summons a bunch of FRIENDs as mobs. FRIEND seems to be partnered with ERAM.
Ramb also doesn't really make sense. He didn't even know why Kris opened the Fountain, no way he's been following us as closely as ERAM has been.

ERAM knows Kris very personally and has been watching us the whole time given how it comments on Weird Route from Chapter 2 if you did it. It has to have a very strong connection to Kris throughout all this.
The Knight fits this very well, the only assumptions we have to make is that it can talk and plan more clearly than it has demonstrated so far (which could be something it only does in private), and that The Knight is cruel enough to torture Kris and downplay Noelle being hurt in Weird Route (which could be from Dess being fucking nuts from years in the Dark).
And it fits as to why it gives us the Shadow Mantle and says "we both have work to do" at the end. It was doing all the Sword Route stuff to get Kris and (You) riled up, then it gives you a tool to let you fight The Knight better and have a shot at getting the Shadow Crystal, along with a super weapon for Kris specifically (though Noelle can equip it too, maybe intended for Weird Route stuff).

>>713682418
This will be Noelle after getting friendzoned by Susie btw

>>713683128
>Undertale came out 10 years ago

>>713682951
Why would that disprove this?
That just adds to this idea. Both Kris and the Knight know that it's a lost fight, but The Knight in this case wants Kris to fight long enough to crack the Shadow Crystal and Black Shard off. So she makes the Sword Game stuff and puts Kris through a painful game just to see their BURNING EYES before handing off the Mantle which acts as a handicap for the fight they're about to have.

The only issue would be why she needs to have them break it off in the fight instead of giving it to Kris then and there. But that may be because either she CAN'T hold back against them for some reason or because she needs to know they're strong enough before letting them have it.

god i want gaster to be a goofy old grandpa guy who gives out not! werther's originals

>>713683256
>The boss literally summons a bunch of FRIENDs as mobs.
So be exact, it specifically summons five FRIENDs. If it's the hand, those would be its fingers. Furthermore, FRIEND is, like the Endogeny, made up of an indeterminate number of cats.
>Ramb also doesn't really make sense. He didn't even know why Kris opened the Fountain, no way he's been following us as closely as ERAM has been.
Ramb repeatedly quotes Jevil, Spamton, and fucking Sans Undertale of all people, he obviously knows way more than he's letting on. Furthermore he spends most of his time (when you're doing the secret route) standing next to a vending machine with FRIEND inside it, the same FRIEND that's been stalking Kris and is seemingly connected with all the superbosses.

>>713683090
Man, THE WORLD REVOLVING is still catchy as fuck.

>>713682879
He's a friend. He's friendly.

>>713681871
sauce?

>>713683547
>sans acts like an old time customer because he's time traveling
Somehow went right over my head.

I just realized that in chapter 3 the implication is that Kris opened the fountain, talked with Tenna, made a deal with him to keep them bussy, and then went back to sleep next to Susie

>>713680103
chara is for character

>>713683715
No, Tenna was in contact with the Knight the whole time. That's who he was leaving to go talk to, dumbass.

>>713682959
>OH DAMN I totally forgot they had super psychic powers to know that a guy who was magicless and powerless in the light world would be ridiculously OP in the Magic world
She literally met him and dropped ShadowSpaghetti all over his studio, you fucking secondary

>>713677591
Pages 2392-2405 of Homestuck.

>>713683465
It doesn't make sense because Kris is obviously trying to lose the fight. Why would he be the one signaling for the fight to end if he's the one being tested? And most importantly, why would Kris be working with someone he hates? It's pretty clear to me that Kris is at least somewhat comfortable around the knight if he's able to smile in the middle of the battle, and he doesn't even try to attack the knight in chapter 4 when given the chance.

>>713683715
They probably also left the Dark World to do the Berdly and Noelle stuff.

>>713683775
I wonder what Hussie is up to these days

>>713682418
You're right, just taking things the wrong way

>>713672835 (OP)
What is Toby planning? Is the game going to explode in the last 3 chapters?
Are we going to hate these characters because we learn they're all bad people? Is Suselle going to make people hate the game?

>the knight is some unnamed random character
>friend/mike are no one
>the yellow/pink pattern is meaningless
>the eggs just give you a bonus flavor text scene in ch 7
>no one substantial actually dies
All in on nothing happening.

>>713683712
Why are Susie and Kris doing Rick&Morty adventures across different games? It doesnt make any sense for this meme because they aren't jumping dimensions across other IP's

>>713683957
Knight reveal is going to have the same energy as the Asriel """reveal""" at the end of Undertale. Just someone who is going to make us go "Ok...?"

>>713683940
He doesn't want you to stain his version of Jesus, Mary and St Peter with your filthy cheeto dust fingers

>>713683961
it's funny

>>713683961
it's the funny "KRIS WHERE THE HELL ARE WE" meme

>>713684054
Its literally just one joke that doesn't make sense. Its like making Omori characters do the same shit

>>713682994
for what?

>>713678654
Ugh.........

>>713684054

>>713676283
>weirdroute after some shit you pull, and probably Noelle running to her as the only one she trusts to protect her.
lol!

>>713683961
You should play Deltarune to figure this one out!

>>713684082
NIGGER THERE IS NO DARK WORLD HERE
IT'S THE BOT FRONT YOU'RE GOING TO DIE

>>713684082
I hate xitter memes but i guess its better than just redrawing characters with different gay flags or ethnicities

>>713682275
They wouldn't, but the Light World and the Dark World are one in the same. Tenna got slashed by the Knight in the Dark World, which caused the TV to break in the Light World. Any damage caused in the Dark World carries over to the Light World in some way. Most of the time it's inconsequential damage that you wouldn't even notice, but the Titan fucked up the entire Dark World with its presence.

>>713681871
ayo pass the sauce, google can't find shit

>>713684183
nothing like this happen in the game, dumb redditor

>>713684280
Yeah it does. It's free, give it a try!

>>713678245
>Chapter 5 is going to drop an even more insane cliffhanger than Chapter 4
>We're going to be waiting 4 years despite what Toby says

>>713684126
If you want an actual answer it's a spoof on that weird route line in chapter 4, then pic related was posted and everyone started redrawing them with other games and Susie saying the name of the game

>>713683851
>suselle has dogshit writing and plays it out like the most forced trash ever as if it's obligatory badly
>kriselle is carefully written and has a lot of romantic subtone coupled with longing as they were both torn apart from an horrible event
what did Toby mean by this

>>713681871
This is so true and I love homestuck. Most of the fun was being part of the fandom and speculating with everyone and being part of all of the art communities. Now that time has passed there is not much for new potential fans to be drawn to it. I’m surprised that a small number of new people still read it with each passing year.

>>713684126
Do the BergenTRUCKung memes also piss you off?
Because if so you may be autistic.

>>713682160
>Could be something related to the Code if the Knight doesn't already have that.
I don't think the knight needs the code, but they would want to keep it away from anyone else.

>>713684319
tiny kris and FRIEND saved ramb and will be in the boss rush at the end

Venison

>>713684126
Because it's fun.

>>713684321
Wait, I thought it was "Goddamit Kris where the fuck are we" still?

>>713684336
that you're a delulu incel

>>713684410
NTA but those suck. It's obviously Reddit running damage control for Whoriel.

>>713684512
It's both

>>713684134
Rapists shouldn't be getting away scott free like that. Hopefully this info can lead to them being caught.

>>713684587
If you think they're somehow anti-Asgore you're out of your mind.

>>713684587
>It's obviously Reddit running damage control for Whoriel
You have mental problems

>>713684753
It's already extremely evident that he's a drooling troglodyte.

>>713684587
I love Asgore and even think those are hilarious from how ridiculous it is

>>713675556
If it means we get to have a full version of her theme then I am good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGuDpoJNImA&pp=ygUSZGVsdGFydW5lIHZzIHN1c2ll

>>713684321
Wait it's a chapter 4 meme? I thought it was ancient. I swore I remember seeing them a few years ago...

>>713684049
My fingers are covered in the sweet smell of the lemon bar soap I washed my body with sweetheart

>>713683851
Goddamn

>>713684929
It got revitalized by this line from Susie on the Weird Route.

>>713684502
I bet her panties smell like ginger

>>713684792
Keep in mind that the CHAD meme was a drooling troglodyte before it got taken over by retards that just make him (THING I LIKE)

>>713675556
>>713684904
>they think Vs. Susie is Weird Route exclusive
There's a reason she asks for Kris and Ralsei to be friends at the end no matter what, that the next day is the same as the last

>>713676232
>papyrus
I believe it.

>>713684635
he was caught, both of them were minors, he got a slap on the wrist because niggers are a protected species

>>713683180
Dark Lancer Fan Club will save us all

Toby is insane for leaking this so early!

Does anyone have that picture of Tenna making the soul cry by bringing up Kris's Brother?

>>713685148
Oh, I though he got away with it because you said he moved. Still doesn't excuse just getting a slap on the wrist though. He should be exposed.

>>713685447
I legit freezed when it started playing, some other anon said they did too
It caught me off guard

>>713682064
>church trashed
>Gerson's letter is obviously Susie's handwriting/intelligence level
She's gonna get blamed for this next chapter huh

>>713683071
Hope that piece of shit never has a moment of peace for the rest of their life.

>>713685516
Thanks, this picture is funny

>>713685505
he moved because after being let go because the victim threatened to kill himself if they sued that nigger, i dont want to talk about this, dozens of people already tried to help, you are just another fag with a boring life trying to look for drama to feed from

>>713683071
I can't understand how some UT/DT fans could be the most vile people on earth.

>>713683940
I feel like he's saying Kris Susie and Noelle to hide the fact that just 1 of them will become irredeemable, probably Noelle.

>>713685823
They become obsessed over "insane" characters.

>>713685823
hypocrisy is extremely easy, and pretty much everybody is guilty of it. including (you).

>>713685627
Definitely. But with any luck, Alvin will bail her out.

>>713685823
How did that one rule go? The more you preach about kindness and being a good person, the worse you will be?

>>713686070
>and pretty much everybody is guilty of it. including (you).

Yes, but it's okay when I do it.

>>713685762
I apologize for bothering you about this. My conscience just bothers me about things like this, and wouldn't let me have peace unless I made an honest effort against this injustice.

>>713685854
I think the worst part is that I can see it
That being said, she's not particularly commanding or capable and is passive beyond belief
Just look at the Berdly phone call at her house
Maybe she'll become a catalyst for something horrible later but I doubt it

I would place my bets on Kris, the MANTLE mini game mentions stuff like "the old days" as he's powering up and gaining levels
Do note however that he's level 1 in the light world

>>713682216
But anon, that character exists in the mirrored dark world.

>>713686280
>Do note however that he's level 1 in the light world
but is that his level or the level of our soul?

>>713686536
Oh, I never considered that...

>>713682879
A fucking MadCATz controller.

>>713686280
>That being said, she's not particularly commanding or capable and is passive beyond belief
She seemed to be unironically enjoying herself in Snowgrave until she got called out by birdbrain.

>>713686280
Seeing people say things like how Ch 3's Shadow Crystal was supposed to be our hint at how to start the Weird Route, it made me think what if we had a reason to hate her if we ever replayed the game? Or we wanted her to be stronger down the road so she actually posed a challenge? Maybe she'll find out about Dess and go crazy. Maybe Rudy dies at the Festival and she just Dark Worlds the whole town.