Thread 718938154

Now that the dust has settled, what do we think about Concord?

https://archive.is/6hqfQ

>>718938154 (OP)
Underrated masterpiece.

>>718938154 (OP)
I wonder if this really is the case.
Sony blew a lot of money on it, but what about older games like Daikatana and Messiah which had a insane budget, but sold like crap?

>>718938567
Daikatana's rumored budget of $30 million back then does not come close to even $100 million adjusted for inflation. The budget ballooning in last few decades has been insane.

>>718938154 (OP)
>"Over a year from Concord"
Dimitri this is not english.

>>718938567
>Daikatana

I'd have to go through Masters of Doom since it mentions how much money Eidos dumped on Daikatana, but I think it's like 20 million? 30 million? It's a lot by 90s standards, and even with inflation it's less than Concord which included the studio and was 350-400 million.

>>718938896
Was it 30 million? That makes sense. I remember Masters of Doom saying Eidos was dumping more and more money into the game as development dragged saying the total was 20 or 30 million. With inflation that's 56 million which is a lot.

So fucking weird to think: MGSV is 14 years after Daikatana, and it's now 11 years old. How does time make sense?

>>718939317
The tower looks like a dick

>>718939317
>How does time make sense?
It doesn't. Summer just started last week and somehow it's also almost over.

>>718938567
Daikatana and Messiah are still playable today with enough effort. As a live service game, Concord is totally dead. What makes it more of a spectacular failure is that 1) It was taken off line, what, 10 days after release? 2) Sony issued refunds to every dumb fuck who bought the game.
Sure, those other games might have had bad sales, but at least the company kept the proceeds from that sale.

>>718938154 (OP)
unironically, which video game character is now less known than Bazz.

We're raising this characters profile enough that normies will know her by name soon enough.

>>718940458
If only they’d had more trans characters this game would have found the modern audience.

>>718940653
Real talk: the trans shit is bombing with 80% of the public. There's asmall sub-set of people (like 20%) who are really opposed, but the majority of people do not care and will not go out of their ways to support it. It's the apathy of the masses that's an issue.

>>718941253
Then the public needs to be roused from this transphobic apathy. TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS! FREE PALESTINE! NO HUMAN IS ILLEGAL! WHITE SILENCE IS BLACK VIOLENCE!

>>718941557
That is a small subset who are getting high on twitter. It allows them to shame each other into being louder than the next.

>a year since concord
>almost a year since veilguard

>>718938154 (OP)
LEAVE CONCORD ALONE!
LEAVE IT ALONE!

Silksong was in development almost as long as Concord was. Do you think it will be almost as good?

>>718942019
>How dare people bring up this example of why lefty politics in gaming is a bad idea when discussing lefty politics in gaming.
I don’t know, maybe that redditard was just getting bored of seeing the same example all the time? Veilguard is a good one. Sadly, Assassin’s Creed: Shadows is not because it was a big hit, with 5 million players. And Dustborn is too niche.

>>718941891
It's funny, given that tumblr and 4chan have always been cousin sites, and have had more in common with each other than with any social media.
What's this article from? Does it mention 4chumblr?

>>718942149
The characters will much much sexier at least

>>718942204
That's a satire subreddit. The post is pretending that people talking about Concord are making fun of the shipwreck in the photo, the Costa Concordia.

>>718942573
https://www.afterbabel.com/p/mental-health-liberal-girls

>>718938154 (OP)
was it really worse than LawBreakers and Battleborn?

>>718942809
>That's a satire subreddit. The post is pretending that people talking about Concord are making fun of the shipwreck in the photo, the Costa Concordia.

lol no. It's autistic trannies, and they are extremely disengenous and always pretend to not know what their opponents are saying. They're socially isolated and spend all day on twitter/reddit/discord. Many have disability payments so they don't work and just game/social media all day.

>>718938896
The main question i have with concord (i had this same question about overwatch desu) is what the fuck were they spending all of that money and time on?
It's a PVP hero shooter with a handful of maps.
There's no AI to program.
There's no level pacing.
No cutscenes to make.
No story to write.
A handful of maps that don't need node graphs or pickups or anything.

The only thing they did was made classes and levels, then let the players make the rest of the content themselves via gameplay. How do you need that much time, that much money, and that many people to achieve what 19 year old hobbyists were doing with mods for free 25 years ago with counter strike, TFC, and brood war? Multiplayer modes used to be an after thought. Do they think we just don't remember?

>>718939317
Is that the tower Ion Storm was in? I'd have loved to see what it was like back in the day. People said it was an awesome place to work

At least woke is dead and will be dead for the next few decades until it becomes the counter culture again. We're currently in the recovery phase where corporations are purging any insane idealogues from their ranks and figuring out how to just make things good again.

>>718942964
tumblr (and twitter) definately had the problem of people reinforcing their mental disorders under the guise of 'self-care'. Depressed? Eat lots of cake and stay in bed all day, and call it self-care. Depressed the next day? Just keep doing the same, it's self-care!

Anyway, thank you for the sauce, Anon.

>>718943034
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes a joke is just a joke.

>>718938154 (OP)
Its amazing it didn't make sony immediately give up on their live service push.

Feels like it came out 3 months ago. What the fuck.

>>718943183
When political correctness went away we thought we were free from their authoritarianism for a while. But it took less than 15 years for it to start to become popular again, just called 'woke' this time.

I'm sure some oldfag anons could even tell me when the previous wave of left-wing moral correctness was. Probably in the late 60s and early 70s when cities were burnt down in mostly peaceful riots in the name of racial equality.

>>718943034
>It's autistic trannies, and they are extremely disengenous and always pretend to not know what their opponents are saying. They're socially isolated and spend all day on twitter/reddit/discord. Many have disability payments so they don't work and just game/social media all day.
So your average /v/irgin then.

>>718943241
>>718943241
>Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes a joke is just a joke.

They are completely sincere transgender communists going on a holy crusade against "Gamers". Funny since they're mostly white MALES and hating other males. It's part of their feminist ideology.

>>718943932
Honestly I just don't care about reddit. You seem pretty amped up about it though.

>>718943932
btw, not joking about "communists" either. They literlaly explain it's a Communist sub and they will ban you for lack of support of communism. Transgenderism and communism go hand in hand.

>>718938154 (OP)
>already one year
what the FUCK
>>718942809
>satire subreddit
Anon none of the circlejerk nor 2(something)4u subreddits are truly satire. They do indeed start out being ironic and "haha just being retarded :)" but eventually fill up with enough people who genuinely believe in whatever """satirical""" position they're supposed to be espousing and it becomes the main discourse of the subreddit. This happens regardless of whether they are left or right leaning or whatever.
>inb4 go back
This very website is no different, and it's been happening here long before Reddit started doing the same.

>>718944140
GCJ is one of the big public hubs for leftist idiocy and one of their main ways to "enlighten" the public. Resetera is another one, but at the very least it's niche and you have to seek it out.

They're trying to "red pill" the public about gamers and gaming and enact influence. I think most people even redditors think they're weirdos.

>>718944209
Reddit is the "front page of the internet", so everyone tries to "colonize" it. 4channers did it with "The Donald" (pol colony) and prequelmemes (/tv/ colony). Reset era and discord did it with gamingcirclejerk and elsewhere.

>>718944267
Who asked?

>>718944390
>>718944140
It's essential for /v/ since GCJ literally raids /v/ periodically. They link /v/ threads to mock how crazy we are. If you see someone strangely defending leftist ideology in /v/ it's one of them.

>>718944149
>Transgenderism and communism go hand in hand.
That's very odd, given that their idol, Stalin, said that LGBT is fascist to it's root.

>>718944381
>Reddit is the "front page of the internet", so everyone tries to "colonize" it.
I wouldn't take that front page title seriously, and although you phrased it a bit differently, your statement isn't far from the truth.
It's more like there is an overlap between users of the communities you mentioned and less of people wanting to take over sites, maybe not in the literal sense, but in the "steer discourse" sense imo.
>>718944542
Same happens with the sharty and r/4chan. If anything with the above anon's post, I'd say that everybody wants to colonize 4chan instead, especially because anonymity puts everybody on a level playing field.

>>718943423
Political correctness and wokeness are a continuation on the same line. Political correctness turned into wokeness, it never came close to dying or recieved anywhere near the backlash wokeness currently is, primarily because it was much more restrained and most people didn't have to deal with it or even know about it.

Wokeness has shoved it's tranny cock in so many people's faces that everyone is aware of it, and more importantly the general concept of "people claiming to be progressive aren't necessarily good people" which was not the case when PC lost momentum in the 2000s.

What we're seeing now is more in line with the backlash against the shit in the 70s you refer to, which did in fact lead to a couple decades of based shit. It led to Regan and bush sr. FPS games, sex women in magazines, etc.

>>718943034
Doctors realized that enabling mental illness through drugs and surgeries was more profitable than treating with anti-psychotics. It’s the same reason there’s no cure for cancer. Chemo and radiation are billion dollar industries.

>>718940458
remember the tranny showing up to target to shill xhe was on the game?

A.. year ago? Has it been that long already

I think more need to die

>>718947235
>Fairgame$
Oh fuck did they cancel it? I was really looking forward to seeing this shit bellyflop

>>718947439
The head producer was axed months ago, and there's been ZERO updates on the game. Everyone thinks it's cancelled. It's also very indicative of taht weird 2019-2020 "eat the rich" and BLM psychosis that's long past us.

>>718947439
not yet at least, but the founder of the studio making it left because it was already looking too dogshit, I hope they release that pile of shit so we can throw tomatoes at it

>>718947517
>It's also very indicative of taht weird 2019-2020 "eat the rich" and BLM psychosis that's long past us.
Hence why I was looking forward to it

>>718942972
Battleborn lasted almost 5 years. Lawbreakers was just over a year. Concord lived just two weeks.

>>718947568
>>718947517
Founder supposedly left after external playtesting was extremely negative. In spite of being around for shit like Asscreed, she never shipped a game under her new company.

>>718938154 (OP)
I don't know cause I didn't buy it.
I also didn't buy Dustborn or Veilguard.
I'm not going to buy them.
You could shill at maximum effort and I'm still not buying them. haha

>>718938154 (OP)
Insane how Sony is still attempting to salvage that stupid fuck's disastrous run. He lost them so much money and won't have to pay for it at all.

>>718940458
>Her

if I'm remembering correclty this is the one where the art director/lead character designer or whatever kept his job. don't have a pic of him but suffice it to say you won't even need to check the early life section of wikipedia.

>>718947517
>psychosis that's long past us.

after covid, that feeling is stronger than ever

>>718945298
>Same happens with the sharty and r/4chan. If anything with the above anon's post, I'd say that everybody wants to colonize 4chan instead, especially because anonymity puts everybody on a level playing field.
You'd think that would teach them to appreciate anonymity and freedom.

>>718938154 (OP)
What the fuck it already launched a year ago?

>>718938154 (OP)
There was only one good porn animation to come out of it with the reptile cat lady. Why are some of the best gooner-bait designs stuck in dead games?

>>718947796
/v/ memed the guy but also got his actual role wrong. He was never an art director but was instead involved in character mechanical design.

>>718943042
They were investing into a universe, they were building the next MCU full of iconic and memorable stories for audiences worldwide. That's probably what they told board members to make their old boomer cocks perk up and start pissing away money for them.

>>718945512
Good points, and I hope wokeness and cancel culture are dead for the next few decades.
>more importantly the general concept of "people claiming to be progressive aren't necessarily good people"
That's a big one. Turns out the people who brag that empathy is their superpower aren't superheroes, they're supervillains.

>What we're seeing now is more in line with the backlash against the shit in the 70s you refer to, which did in fact lead to a couple decades of based shit. It led to Regan and bush sr. FPS games, sex women in magazines, etc.
The 60s and 70s were also the time of the sexual revolution and free love. The leftists back then mostly didn't hate sexiness and fun, for all their other faults and failed philosophies. So sexy women in magazines were remnants of that culture, not caused by the Reagan revoultion or trickle-down economics.

>>718948175
>Turns out the people who brag that empathy is their superpower aren't superheroes, they're supervillains.
I wouldn't go that far, it's just crazies in general. We got some people straight going retard and flying in the opposite direction, saying empathy is a sin.

>>718943042
>The main question i have with concord (i had this same question about overwatch desu) is what the fuck were they spending all of that money and time on?

The devs are fundamentally incompetent, so they're just as bad at management and programming as they are character design and creativity. So the result is the project languisehd in development hell for years where it was made and remade endlessly ($$$). There's speculation that the game got a total graphical revamp to realistic graphics at the tail end of development ($$$). Think like if you made Resident Evil 2 remake, then decided to just remake the game 80% through? you're basically doubling your budget needlessly.

Then Sony got desperate and hired outside studios to finish the game ($$$).

If you hire 100 people to sit around for 5 years, that's 100x60,000 a year bare minimum, so 30 MILLION dollars. So it doesn't matter if the game looks like shit, doesn't work, and they spun their wheels for 5 years, it's going to cost 30 million in dev salaries alone.

>It's a PVP hero shooter with a handful of maps.
>There's no AI to program.
>There's no level pacing.
>No cutscenes to make.

Yes, you're grasping how incompetent they are.

>No story to write.

Well there is, plus endless story trailers with lavish CGI. Most of the "story" feels like it's an afterthought and written on napkins by interms but it's there. The CGI trailers and videos look very costly and lavishly made.

>>718947958
Who was the art director? I feel like he/she must be one of the primary causes of this failure along with the execs, especially after I saw some of the original character designs, and while not great, had some actual rawness and soul to them.

All-time max for Concord on Steam was 697 players (let's round up to 800 with the Epic Games Store). Even if 10x that amount of people bought the game on Steam (8000) and 4x THAT amount bought it on PlayStation (32k+8k for 40) AND each player bought the $60 Digital Deluxe Edition AND Sony kept all the money from each copy sold, they'd only bag ~2.5 million USD on a budget in the hundreds of millions. This is without a doubt the biggest flop in video game history, possibly in all of entertainment history and I don't think anything comes even remotely close.

>Fairgames doesn't have a wikipedia page

Something like this is a good guage to see how mcuh people care. There's usually some dork who is going to spend hours writing about some upcoming film or game.

I think BRICs should be banned from investing in Western vidya to subvert it. Just like the West is banned from investing in chinese vidya.

Reminder: A dev dumped this plaque to Goodwill.

>>718948909
They refunded money so officially the game made 0%.

>>718941891
Bottom line, americans ruin everything. Could have told you that without years worth of "research".

>>718949038
This but Israel, the WEF and Blackrock.

>>718938154 (OP)
I intend to follow the careers of key high level people in that game who are massive, hateful bigots on future projects.

I'm amazed the fuck who lead the character designs there managed to land a job doing Call of Duty.

>>718949038
Ban burgers from investing outside the US and we have a deal.

>>718949038
>it's because uhhhh CHYNER
shalom

Incoming schizopost from me.
I don't believe the infamously bad character designs come from wokeness but from the confused art design.
The concord ppl were ex bungee , and I'm willing to bet their directive for this game was "Make a Destiny, but like, with overwatch pvp shi".
Well.... one of the most well remembered things about Destiny was its art design inspired by classic sci fi art (I think mostly Chris Foss and Rob Cunningham). But , they simply couldn't do the exact thing again, so they chose another famous artist :Moebius .
Moebius' character design is just weird. He loves his mish mash of eastern cultures, his greebly post apocalyptic tech. But more importantly, his very thin , fine linework and rich saturated colors.
So they took the weird characters.... but for some reason or another they left out his detailed linework and color palate and went for CGI slop , Guardians of the Galaxy-o-vision. Maybe it was their incompetence, maybe it was higher ups mandating it, who knows?
You can absolutely recognize Moebius 's touches in their characters. The they-them whatever lady's trashcan helmet, the DoomGuy lady's armor.
But without taking the WHOLE art style, it looks uncanny and wrong. The same way "photorealistic Mario" would look wrong.

I'm not gonna try to defend the pronouns in bio , or the "they them with a craving for mayhem" . That stuff is absolutely cringe woke shit, but as for how the characters look, yeah , they butchered a famous artist's style.
Like, imagine someone wanting to do a Conan the Barbarian game, inspired by the paintings of Boris Vallejo, but they do it in shitty pixar Overwatch style.

To get an idea of how this style WOULD look like, look up the games Sable and Synergy

>>718948637
There were multiple, several of them women.

>>718949151
it was never explained how that plaque got there
it's entirely possible the bitch got laid off before everyone else and the entire studio was liquidated wholesale soon after, workstations being auctioned off in bulk, and whatever worthless stuff that was leftover, pens and pencils/folders/paper/this plaque, was dumped on a Goodwill doorstep

>>718949571
You chinks always freak out when exposed and strawman israel. You're all part of the same zionist grift and everyone knows.

>>718949618
incoming blackrock damage control more like, everyone knows what they mean when they say they want to force behaviors

>>718949806
To think Fink is now heading the WEF

>>718949752
>mossad shill trying to deflect from jews again
KEK

>>718949618
>I don't believe the infamously bad character designs come from wokeness but from the confused art design.

They're following feminist design principles to a tee, which are all negative critiques like all of leftism. Feminists have been bitching about media since the 80s, saying it's sexist, mysognistic, and such. Look "the male gaze" for instance. These design critiques are acutally being implimented and it's disasterous.

>>718948139
They could have hired thousands of authors, or a dozen famous ones, for a fraction of the money they spent on this.

>>718949618
>Like, imagine someone wanting to do a Conan the Barbarian game, inspired by the paintings of Boris Vallejo, but they do it in shitty pixar Overwatch style.
Workable
thanks chat

>>718949151
just...

>>718949929
>Bugs wasting billions trying to pretend they're not golems
yawn

>>718949882
any other deflections shlomo? is larry fink chinese too btw?

>>718950018
Fink is Blackrock you ninny.

>>718948637
>>718949654
The actual art director was Adrian Majkrzak supposedly.

>>718948469
How could it ever be a sin, unless it's used to more focusedly bully socially awkward victims like the SJWs did?
>>718949654
How can you have multiple directors? Did they work by committee or by collective? Would explain why things are so unfocused.

>>718950012
>kikes wasting billions to shift blame
>everyone still hates them
KEEEEEEEEEK
>>718950110
and a kike

>>718949935
Feminists should have purchased the game, then.

>>718949618
>I don't believe the infamously bad character designs come from wokeness but from the confused art design.
Why not both? Why can't they be incompetent AND followers of a shitty ideology?

>>718938154 (OP)
Fuck, it's already been a year? Feels more like it was a few months

https://www.linkedin.com/company/firewalkstudios/

I like reading through now dead social media pages for dead companies. Very rarely do they take them down, so you get these historical monumnets. Linkedin is great, because they act as internal dev blogs that most people dont' have access to. Filled with bullshit positive corpo-speak which I loathe.

>>718950213
>Seething and reporting posts (or is a planted chink janny)
>Still thinks he's proving anything
You and your turdworld israeli vassal state are fully exposed chang

>>718949151
I'm surprised the name wasn't scrubbed out, be it by the named person who didn't want it or the devs or whatever.

>>718950351
>Feminists should have purchased the game, then.

Feminists don't play multi-player shooters. It's too aggressive.

>>718949618
Good effortpost. You might be on to something with those art style mixes.

Insane how much radio silence there's been for Marathon. They literally have to scrape up every asset of that game to find what was and what wasn't stolen now. They can't even say a peep because of there being a chance of any screenshot/footage they show containing stolen art.

>>718950539
>BlackRock has been retreating from China, particularly its property market, by selling its last major Shanghai asset, Trinity Place, at a discount in March 2025.
any other copes and deflections shlomo? are you even trying to imply that china owns blackrock btw? and not a jew?

>>718950851
>makes claim from his state media packet
>zero proof
meanwhile, your collapsing government

>>718949571
Grim. But gamergate made it obvious news and media was all AIDS faggots

>>718950921
proof of what? blackrock retreating from china? you'll get a result on google in a second
https://www.scmp.com/business/article/3304173/blackrock-sells-shanghai-tower-34-discount-it-pulls-back-china-property
not that you care about the reality anyways, you just want to spew your mossad deflections like the glownigger you are
>>718951003
and jews lol

>>718950192
I can see how his work could lead to Concord

>>718950921
>The Economist says CHINA WEAK! USA STRONG!
Wow

>>718951059
>selling a building
>anything to do with the sino-zionist machine subverting western vidya with poison funds
fact chang. your state media packet has nothing of value to share.

>>718950682
>>718949618
Oh yeah, there's rumors that the game had a huge graphical art style shift from either cel shaded or cartoony to realism late in development. These designs are "wacky" and they likely work better in cartoon look. Still would be an ugly mess, but whatever.

The realistic graphics pushes the game from fugly to VERY unappealing. The colors are all gross puke colors as well.

>>718951157
so again shlomo, is blackrock owned by china? no nobody cares that they had an office in china that was already sold, is vanguard owned by china? is sweet baby inc owned by china? where are the proof shlomo? it's all just bullshit deflections, it's all jews, like you

>Concord launches
>Le HECKAN wholesole and based monkey game immediately shows up
>Shills trying to convince anyone the West wants it
>NOOOO WHY AREN'T YOU TALKING ABOUT ISRAEL?
Chinks are the dumbest people alive. A slant-eyed jew is still a jew. >>718949752

>>718951347
>sbi kike is still seething about concord flopping and wukong winning
KWAB

>>718951347
>Chinks are the dumbest people alive
>posts a squashed thumbnail
So you're a bug?

>>718951227
Yeah , I'm not arguing the game would magically look good if done in full Moebius' art style, but they wanted it to stand out in one way or another. And maybe some artist more talented than the entirety of Bungie could pull it off.
In the late 2000's 70's sci fi was considered corny and most people thought about cartoony toy rayguns, dick shaped chrome rocket spaceships and astronauts with fishbowls on their heads, and yet Destiny pulled it off.
Some guy could've made it look like a more stylized version of the Fifth Element ( a movie Moebius also did art for). People remember Leelo , the blue singing squid lady, the fancy transforming gun etc.

>Seething so hard he's posting proof of the china shilling now
lol your country's unemployment rate is over 50% while you waste whatever money you have left trying to convince anyone in the west they want your whtiewashed fairy tale games built on stolen code

shlomo is literally just going through his mossad propaganda talking point list lmao

>>718951562
You always call this out in other threads you shill china for because you are a china shill. Every time you mention it, you expose yourself.

>>718938567
Sony bought the studio, paid for advertising, paid for a TV show, printed discs, and spent $400 million on development.
They got essentially none of that back.

Same thing is happening with Fairgame$ but that game isn't getting released. There's also like a dozen more live service Sony flops too. They likely all, even the ones never seen, lost more than Daikatana. Bluepoint was working on the GoW game for like 4 years, that's a massive studio just flushing away money.

Imagine being such a flop that you even get forgotten because a much bigger flop released in the same year.

>>718951817
Veilguard experienced the same situation

>>718951758
>you shill china for
oh is this just a pajeet? that explains a lot

>>718942809
Anon I know where you're coming from, but the subreddit went so far up its ass that it eventually became completely sincere and serious with itself. Like many other subreddits and even this site too.

>gets baited like usual
>j-jeet!
You are all part of one big retarded turdworld family in BRICs

I have a very bad feeling about the future. I am afraid that now they will start cancelling this trash before releasing. At least let me have fun shitting on your retarded tranny propaganda when it releases....

still didn't answer if china owns blackrock, vanguard and sweet baby inc or not, big surprise

>BRICs FUD thread
>Shills called out
>Immediately reveal themselves
lmao

>nooooo you can't just laugh at jews losing the culture war!!!!! you're a shil!!!!
kek yes I can, look at this
AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>718951059
>warn China's economy is going to collapse
>China makes some fixes, enough to stave it off for a year or two
>core fundamental problems still exist
>In a year or two, China is near collapse again
>heed warnings, make a few more fixes
>collapse postponed by a couple more years
>get warned again
>cycle repeats
I don't know what's so hard to understand about this, the same dynamic has been going on with Western economies too.

>>718951308
>posting a forgery while expecting to be taken seriously

>>718952247
just two more weeks bro, this time for sure
>>718952337
>SHUT IT DOOOOOWN
KEK enjoy your 0.06 shekels

>>718942809
I'm sure the AntiAI subreddit is all just satire as well.

>>718951894
Veilguard selling a couple of million isn’t nearly the disaster of Concord having a $400,000,000 budget and 25,000 sales. And Sony had to refund every purchase as well.

>>718952443
>just two more weeks bro, this time for sure
That's the exact opposite of what I said in my post. Excellent reading comprehension there.

>>718952604
"players" aren't sales

>>718951817
Another EPIC UNIVERSE killed before it could realize its infinite potential

>>718952645
>make retarded shit about china
>nothing happens
>make retarded shit about china
>nothing happens
>repeat this for 40 years
not hard to understand, cia funded grifters and kikes lie and make shit up about their enemies, then kikes like you try to muddy lines

Also 90% of wokeness in games is a cynical manufactured corporate brand whose entire purpose is to pander to some vague "counter culture" in youth, by basically screaming "This is the game your mom and dad DO NOT want you to play because it pisses them off" (therefore you should want to do it)
Before this , it used be violence, but people became desensitized to it, and you stop being edgy when EVERYONE is doing it. If you want proof look at how much people memed on the game Hatred, and how the line "My name is not important" became more famous as a meme than the game itself.
"Leftsit values" are simply the new "your mom will hate this", and it's rapidly on its way out.
Companies assumed that wokeness will be the new edge and that all the young people will embrace it to spite "the Man". They didn't so most of these games flopped. Also widespread internet access has made gamers a lot more cynical about hype in general.
There absolutely have been a lot of "true believers" hired SPECIFICALLY to make statements like "to spite the male gaze" ,but the people ordering these things from the top look at it purely through the lens of "will this piss off the right people, and make the other right people buy our shit" ?

Sydney Sweeny's aryan jeans and "it's not FOR YOU" literally come from the same mindset

>>718952727
If you go to the Namco Unknown9 site, and click on ANYTHING that they link to that has a view count (like unlisted Youtube vids) the numbers are in the low 100s, like 125. That's barely covering bots and literal employees of Namco who set up these pages. NO ONE CARED. No one saw any of this. They spent all that time, likely several million making this expanded universe shit and it's just nothing.

>>718952859
it's to pander to larry fink, the jew who funds all the woke shit in games

>>718952727
Absolute hubris on display. Having a whole multimedia universe planned before the game even comes out. And you know Concord had the same thing for their shareholder meetings.
>And this comic book is going to segue into the Netflix series, Concord: BaZ origins, where we foreshadow season three skins.

>>718952878
I genuinely am curious how stuff like this was pitched considering how much they seemed to believe in it.

>>718952759
So how soon do you think US and capitalism will collapse?

>>718943042
Probably starting and restarting development a few times over.
It screams being a project that no one had a plan for other than trend chasing and as trends changed, the game had to be remade for it.

>>718953005
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/why-bandai-namco-is-betting-big-on-unknown-9s-transmedia-universe

>>718953193
>transmedia
Makes me laugh every time

>>718953193
>transmedia
Ah, that explains it

>>718953139
2 weeks

>>718953247
>ack

>>718953263
>>718953247
No but seriously, why not just call it multimedia? Is that word too 90s?

>>718953332
Trendchasing, as someone just said, and trans was extremely trendy until very recently.

>>718953193
>>718953412
Did Concord even release any other media aside from the short on Secret Levels? At least Unknown 9 put out other media, and before the game released too.

Was the game even that bad? It barely gets discussed, which tells me it's just average, unlike the crapshow that Concord apparently was.

>>718947640
Getting a hobby? Fuck that, I'm forced to defend video games online because of those problematic dipshits!

>>718953412
Herve Hoerdt is the Namco Bandi Europe exec who seems to have bought into Unknown 9 hook line and sinker.

The studio was founded by a former Ubisoft executive who worked on Assassin's Creed, and the studio went for multi-media approach.
Bandai-Namco Europe for some reason had this goal of 50% of their games made outside of Japan, thus chasing the "western audience", so they bought up outsider studios. What a moron.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/bandai-namco-acquires-montreal-game-developer-reflector-4062754/

>>718949618
It's never woke isn't it? There's always a long schizo explanation why woke had absolutely nothing to do with, all because BG3 sold decently.

>>718953646
>Was the game even that bad? It barely gets discussed, which tells me it's just average, unlike the crapshow that Concord apparently was.

Just picture in your mind: India, Unreal Engine, Assassin's Creed. You have just envisioned the entire game.

>>718953756
>Outsell Madden and almost outsell fucking Call of Duty with Elden Ring in 2022
>"We must buy more western studios."

>>718953646
The devs are on record saying they wanted it to have the scope of Star Wars. I can’t tell if this is a real quote or a /v/ shitpost, but I read somewhere they released it In August so cosplayers would make Halloween costumes of the characters. They were absolutely that delusional.

>>718953646
It went with the more expensive option, their goal being high budget story cutscenes every week, alongside the Secret Level slot, animated shorts, and who knows what else.

>>718954005
The suits probably credited those sales to GRRM. >>718953962
An Assassin's Creed sent in pre-British India would be awesome tho.

>>718954052
oh there were cosplayers...

How to save Concord:

>single player
>it's these 3 characters
>you play as girl or guy or whatever
>they tell some gay story line
>it's mission based
>action and adventure
>Rip off Cowboy Bebop

There done. It wouldn't be amazing but it'd be functional.

>>718954365
Those were the days

>>718954052
>>718954209
Don't any of these people realize that vast universes like Star Wars, or Marvel or DC were built over decades, not all at once? Don't the suits with their fancy MBA degrees get taught basic stuff like that?

>>718953646
it was pretty bad, like shovelware level bad, like the shit you would find in a bargain bin at walmart for 5 dollars next to a starsky and hutch shovelware game

>>718954630
Koreans for whatever reason especially thought that Bazz is such a ridiculous notion for a character in a game.

Koreans and such aren't stupid, and they're as aware of western media as anyone else. They think we're going crazy for some reason.

>>718954639
Suits are fucking retarded. Also, we exist in a time where stuff takes large amounts of planning and time to make combined with rapid hype cycles. So the fear becomes making new content for something ends up taking too long so by the time you release it people no longer care.

>>718940653
If a game had 100% trans characters it would sell a billion dollars why aren’t they doing this

>>718954824
WBD had the same conundrum as the video game industry
>We have DC, Harry Potter, and Game of Thrones. Our fans will support us no matter what. So if we add a bunch of Reality TV slop, we can bring housewives into our ecosystem!

>>718954682
What made it so bad?

I think if they had simply kept the game for a bit longer and made it F2P it could've worked.
People were talking about it on release, they just didn't want to play it.

>>718955832
just the general quality, it's just bad and cheap, like a game that isn't outrageously bad or revolting, but just like boring, basic, generic looking, cardboard crap, that you'll have 0 fun playing

>>718954824
Who is this McKinsey and how did he stumble on a scam that would make jews envious?

>>718955832
>>718956027
Jank and rushed. You can tell someone sat down to make the game, but they didn't have the budget to do it right and were rushed. Corners were cut. Jank and boring. Visuals are BROWN shades because "modern games" lack contrast.

>>718956198
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McKinsey_%26_Company

>>718952727
Talk about putting the cart before the horse...

>>718943042
>No cutscenes to make.
Any other things you want to tell us? No ugly character designs to make, maybe?

>>718942809
>That's a satire subreddit.
You're dumb.

>>718956005
snoy should've kept it around just as a humiliation ritual, regardless of how much the maintenance would cost

>>718947796
Don't worry, he found a new job.

>>718949151
>the game made 0%.
Refunds aren't free, if you want to get very technical.

>>718955671
To be honest I cant fault WB's too hard since they got giga fucked by an even bigger corporation and went from a fairly okay financial status to being on the cusp of bankruptcy purely because of the biggest and most hilarious backstab in corporate history

>>718951817
>>718952727
I feel like I'm required to show off how proud the developers were of what they did with this game every time it's mentioned.

>>718953646
They had a ton of fully rendered CGI episodes to flesh out the world floating around.

>>718956546
The eternal hibernian does it again

>>718942809
>That's a satire subreddit
Take my upvote internet stranger!

>>718938154 (OP)
>Over a year from Concord
What do you mean over a year, that quickly time happen?

>>718957569
That was probably figured into the $400,000,000 figure floating around. They had a bunch of supplemental material ready to keep the brand in headlines. It’s not a bad idea to keep your fans fed throughout the year. Look at Pokémon’s nonstop stream of merchandise, anime and gacha games.

>>718943042
>The main question i have with concord (i had this same question about overwatch desu) is what the fuck were they spending all of that money and time on?
I work in big tech which is probably a bit different than AAA gaming but frankly not that much.

There are two things they spent all their money and time on:

1. Headcount
2. Coordinating people

One of the fundamental rules of a software project is that the more people involved, the more difficult it will be for them to reach agreement and move forward on implementation. One of the fundamental rules of 9 figure software projects is that organizations will accumulate more people than remotely necessary because the way middle managers escape middle management is to have more people working underneath them.

Add in the fact that whoever is investing those 9-figures will want to have 10-figures of return and probably 99% of the development hell this game went through was meetings layered on meetings accomplishing nothing except arguments between stakeholders from different stakeholders like design, engineering, and leadership ultimately leading to ideas being widdled down to the lowest common denominator and probably frequently restarted from scratch.

>>718958138
>from different teams**

>>718958138
The whole idea is weird. I can see like 5 guys making a game on the scale of Concord in a few short years. Just a few multiplayer maps, Unreal engine, a handful of characters, some kind of Quake 3 clone. How hard is that?

>>718957971
is it just me or the name Haroona itself plays an important role on making the whole thing unappealing?

>>718957971
>Unknown 9
Post that webm
You know the one

>>718958138
>Add in the fact that whoever is investing those 9-figures will want to have 10-figures of return and probably 99% of the development hell this game went through was meetings layered on meetings accomplishing nothing except arguments between stakeholders from different stakeholders like design, engineering, and leadership ultimately leading to ideas being widdled down to the lowest common denominator and probably frequently restarted from scratch.

That sounds like it. These companies are too big and everyone just rebuilds and has endless meetings for years and everyone goes in circles.

The mindless positive corpo-speak makes my skin crawl. Everyone is all smiles, it's always the best, the best experience, etc. Everyone loves to work there. We know that's not true, stop lying so much.

Someone post the concept art for the pink alien girl which was infinitely better than the final version.

>>718954267
>The suits probably credited those sales to GRRM

>>718958554
Man the term "nerd" really got stolen and euthanized. I never liked being identified by it but I would have accepted that term when I was younger, but now "nerd" to me means someone who has extreme brand loyalty rather than someone who is actually interested in niche hobbies

>>718950406
Yep. When things fail big, it's generally the case that there were multiple overlapping failures.

>>718958512
I gotchu

>>718959319
Please tell me this is on non-potato graphical settings too

>>718950351
Notice how they call it the "modern audience" not the "modern customer"

>>718959383
The problem isn't the dogshit grafix but the animations and the fact that they blatantly reused NPCs in a cutscene right next to each other. One guy kills his clone, in fact

>>718958430
>How hard is that?
Give me 5 competent engineers, 1 artist, and a $2.5million budget and I could easily pump out concord in under 2 years.

Give me 200 mixed quality engineers, 200 mixed quality artists, 200 hundred managers/directors/HR/diversity consultants, and a $200 million dollar budget and we'll be lucky to get anything done in 5 years.

>>718958554
>These companies are too big and everyone just rebuilds and has endless meetings for years and everyone goes in circles
Yes. This style of software development is soul crushing but understandable for big tech. Big tech makes software that billions of people use. They are going to widdle down the experience to the most generic thing we can get billions of people interested in using. It makes no sense whatsoever for video games.

When video game budgets balloon to this size the studios can no longer take risks because so much more investment is riding on the line which means that the experience has to be generic, but generic experiences is not what makes for successful video games. Video games need a unique hook and typically that unique hook involves some level of risk that some players won't like it.

>>718949618
I'm sure you wont believe that a concord dev is here, i could post the plaque but I'll just say your moebius call is very accurate. The art style change was sudden and directed from above. Anyone here thinking that concord is some mythical outlier is not looking out at other failed GAAS tittles like wildgate or super vive or spectre. People don't have money to support these luxuries anymore, its best to make your games appeal to the chinese than it is the west imo.

>>718941891
an evolution of chuunibyou anime but in real life

>>718959481
Yeah but I want to make sure it's not also missing effects because of graphical settings. I said "too" because I was asking in addition to all the clearly fucked stuff that higher settings wouldn't fix

>>718942964
Thanks for the link.

>>718959945
Similar theme:
https://musaalgharbi.com/2023/03/21/ideological-gaps-mental-illness-well-being/

The definitive proof for AAAs' budgets being to high to be sustainable. How could this PoS have cost 400 millon dollars?

>>718940058
kind of a shame cuz i almost want to try it just to see if there were any ideas worth salvaging

>>718943241
the problem is social media algorhythms, they will just sling back your opinion back at you and also show you stuff that makes you mad because anger derives clicks.
basically /pol/baiting but made by bots...

well ok, like 4chan

>>718959945
>>718942964
This only shows the rate at which people treat their mental illnesses, not the rate at which people actually have them. It could easily be that the same number of conservatives are mentally ill but don’t seek help due to there being a greater stigma among conservatives.

>>718960719
I still cant believe this entire game was greenlit

>>718960469
It's even worse, it only shows the rate at which people REPORT treating their mental illness. It doesn't even truly measure the rate of treatment, just who is willing to say they did on a survey.

>same number of conservatives are mentally ill
In my experience political leaning is completely uncorrelated to mental illness, but investment in politics is highly correlated to mental illness. The more you care about politics the more fucked in the head you are regardless of conservative or liberal leanings.

>>718960469
nah yall are fucked in the head which is why your cities are crawling with drug addicts and violent criminal who dont respect the rule of law let alone themselves or others

>>718960915
Right, we are at a point where directionbraining is more and more evident. And people just dig their heels in and buy into confirmation bias.

>>718960719
its so fascinating to me that the mom tries desperately to understand her daughter's sudden announcement in a lore-friendly way and the writers want the audience to think she is in the wrong.

>>718960719
The thing that gets me the most if the fact that the MC just looks like a midget.

>>718938154 (OP)
I think it didn't get enough hate

You watch movies like Brazil, making fun of bureaucracy, and think to yourself, no way its actually like that, its just a joke.
But it is exactly like that.

>>718953193
wish bamco revived .hack instead of whatever the fuck this was
they already managed a great multimedia series over 20 years ago

>>718938567
Concord refunded ALL purchases, and budgets were smaller back then. I think it's biggest rival as far as overall bombs go is Ubi's skull and bones, and much of that loss was a tax dodge.

>>718949618
It seems to be an attempt to ape Moebius' art, but executed horribly with the usual shitheap of woke and crap.
Good thing nobody looks at it that way. Horrible if this slop gets associated with Moebius, way to tarnish his reputation.
You're not the first to point this out btw, there were threads that pointed this out way back.

>>718960719
As much as I'm sick of seeing that bait thread for months it's still laughably funny that it is literally what happens in-game and spammer OP isn't making anything up.
What an absolute shitshow

>>718957475
> look how we'll own white males, chuds on suicide watch!
almost like they have an agenda

>>718942019
>the Concordia is right-leaning

>>718938154 (OP)
THE DUST HASN'T SETTLED
THE CUM HASN'T CRUSTED
THE TIDE HASN'T RECEDED
THE VINES HAVEN'T WILTED
THE SCARS HAVEN'T FADED
TIME ISN'T OF THE ESSENCE
AND BASICALLY YOUR MOM GAY
ALSO THERE IS NO "WE"
THERE

IS

NO

"""W E """

>>718944267
kek elden troon is confirmed troony reddit shit

>>718942809
>That's a satire subreddit.
Maybe it started that way, but you and I both know that it hasn't been that for years. It's the asylum for the kind of blue haired troons who unironically use "chud" when talking about their enemies and think beautiful women in media is literal genocide.

>>718944542
>say dumb shit
>people tell you you're dumb
>ackchyally it was satire all along
>people tell you it's not
>whatever why do you even care about that?

>>718942972
Yes. Lawbreakers and battleborne at least tried to have a unique gameplay point.

>>718944542
Periodically? They spam the place like they get paid for it.

> If you see someone strangely defending leftist ideology in /v/ it's one of them.
Actual bunkerfags can use racial slurs. GJC have their own weird made up slurs that are "worksafe". Shills can't use racial slurs.

>>718949995
Still appealing than any of the concord characthers

>>718947439
No. There are rumors, of it's cancelation, and Jade Raymond, yes THAT one from the chugworth academy/angel corps artist has stepped down as head of the studio.

>>718947656
Jade's last two projects were Google Stadia and this shit.

>>718947737
It's the entire bungie purchase that they're defending.

>>718947796
>>718957230
He's a hilariously racist piece of shit, and he hates the US millitary, Just the PERFECT fit for COD>

>>718965362
>Google Stadia

>>718965432
>It's the entire bungie purchase that they're defending.
You have to wonder if Sony is internally screaming about that purchase at this point. All Bungie has done is pretty much utterly fuck them over at every turn from telling them to outright buy Concord's developer to listening to Bungie's "expertise" on live service games.

>>718948469
>saying empathy is a sin.
That's not a new position, and fortunately only the most retarded of the ultra christfags are pushing it hard.

>>718938154 (OP)
Why are they still making articles of this shit a year later?

>>718943042
Studio was bought on advice from Bungie. They wanted to make iit the centerpiece of their PS5 pro launch, and decided to add lots of outside contractors, in all areas. Animation, code, special effects. Even had WETA on for character designs.

They also went with a super expensive marketing plan based around original quality animation. Go look at the Bazz episode or the Secret Level episode. Huge amounts spent there.

Check the credits to see how fucking huge they are. They spent about half their budget in the last year.

>>718948620
The backend dev shit is very solidly built, and the trick is, if they were so bad, why did Sony buy them in the first place? You'll notice that unlike most big failures, it isn't a rushed piece of poorly made shit. Instead it's incredibly terrible ideas polished to a perfect mirror shine.

>>718948909
What's the second highest? Maybe Skull and Bones?

>>718965590
It was a very impressive failure, and it's now its anniversary.

>>718965234
>Actual bunkerfags can use racial slurs. GJC have their own weird made up slurs that are "worksafe". Shills can't use racial slurs.

Is that actually true? I've seen some anons strangely using leftist gender jargon like it's the most natural thing in the world.

>>718949618
This is contradicted by the people who worked on it who were very clear about their political interests and design priorites. They had fucking WETA come in and work on this shit.

And you can see, that the entire goddam cast passes the blizzard woke matrix with flying colors. They were absolutely prioritizing that shit, and did that part flawlessly.

You're correct in that they started from Mobeius, but then look at what they focused on.

>>718965868
>The backend dev shit is very solidly built, and the trick is, if they were so bad, why did Sony buy them in the first place? You'll notice that unlike most big failures, it isn't a rushed piece of poorly made shit. Instead it's incredibly terrible ideas polished to a perfect mirror shine.

They churned in dev hell for years and Sony had to hire outsider studios to actually finish the game. That cost a LOT more.

>>718951894
>>718952604
In a normal year, Veilguard would be the uncontested bomb of the year, but Ubisoft alone has like 4 titles that rival it for that year alone.

>>718952859
I'm not sure about your porportions. The political purges that came with GG and Metoo seem to have brought in serious true believers.

>>718966438
Like movies, I think "gaming" as a medium is just dying, and "gamers" are getting older and older and older. Video games are being replaced by freemium games like Roblox and others rather than consoles and traditional games. The youngest don't buy consoles sadly.

This means more flops and only a few hits. This trend will continue until they stop making games entirely in a few decades.

>>718953646
they had a few other, expensive as fuck animated shorts. Bazz is in one of them.

>>718938154 (OP)
>its gotg but modern gotg somehow wasn't gay enough for them

>>718954052
That is a real quote.

>>718954707
Bazz also shows up in some hentai doujins at comicet.

>>718966612
The second videogame crash can't come soon enough.

You'd think companies would force emergency character redesigns or give up on live service. But no, Concord character designs and live service slop is still being spammed.

>>718966284
but did those people really work on the game in developer capacity or did they have some bullshit job like "consultant"
i remember when there was this whole baby games thing or something like, its ceo spammed shitter with stuff like we will not have white people in our games and it turned out these people quite literally did not work the game itself

>>718955832
The game was actually very stable without the bugs and obvious corners cut of other games, but there were completely fucking unthinkable design decisions. Unimaginative maps. Boring enviroments, where lots of shit is carefully crafted, but none of it interesting. The powers are set up that you need to work in teams, and need to switch characters, but no way to plan with others.

It was fundamentally a highly polished turd. Terrible ideas, that great work had gone into. Not fun at all.

>>718958138
>>718943042
Last second counsultants, including code.


AccelByte Software dev
Adhoc Studio Writing
Assemble Technology Software dev
D3T Ltd. / Coconut Lizard Art, FVX, software dev
Jetpack Interactive Software dev
Nixxes art
Pipeworks Studios 3d art, animation, software dev
Probably Monsters Founding company. Dev
Ryzin Art 3d art
Superseed Studios Animation
Valkyrie Entertainment 3d art, vfx
Weta Workshop Concept art,
WhiteMoon Dreams, Inc.: Engineering ,Tech Art, Production

PLUS their fuckhuge headcount in a new studio in possibly the most expensive neighborhood in the world for this shit.

>>718966754
>The second videogame crash can't come soon enough.

Nothing good will come of it. First TV/FIlm are dying and not being replaced with anything other than social media algo soup. It's just a mush of clips and nonsense rather than scripted content.

Gaming is next, but we have like a few decades head start but will share the same fate. Algo content soup will replace gaming, or whatever form it takes in the future.

The future is "free" content since you can't beat free. No one wants to pay for consoles, games, books, tv, shows, or media in general. But the medium doesn't get better, it's just replaced by some corporation's slop.

>>718959636
I believe you, and want you to spill dirt on the craziest motherfuckers out there, the ones who will destroy future projects and games.

>>718939642
Time... Never enough time.

>>718954052
>so cosplayers would make Halloween costumes of the characters
This stuff is so cringe

>>718965554
3.6 BILLION fucking dollars for that. And their live service expertiese. I mean that's big enough for even really fucking dumb investors to notice.

>>718943042
>No cutscenes to make.
Erm anon, let's not forget the amount of time wasted on those shitty Concord promo videos. Probably didn't take much time from the people working on the game, but the overall budget costs surely shot through the roof with wasting so much money on Blizzard-tier promotional videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBnStS9d2xg

>>718965590
Becuase the impact of the disaster is still propagating through the industry, and the industry WILL crater again on fuckhuge projects if the right lessons aren't learned.

Bioware and Ubisoft decided that the lesson was to attack chuds directly to keep them from giving a bad early impression of your game. You see how well THAT worked for them in Outlaws, Shadows and Veilguard.

>>718966217
Go visit the cores of each zone and you'll see the language used natively. Actual leftypol lets it rip with just as vile language as pol classic. The r/ types don't. The marketing fags are HYPER aggressive for emotional traction but can't use slurs at all.

>>718966775
That quote made me realize I've barely heard any voice lines from any characters in this game.
Not that I want to, but it is interesting.

>>718967262
I was just noticing how the design of Taash especially follows the western design trend of over complicated designs that would take the character 2 hours to actually put on. This also has the effect of making it near impossible to dress up as the character accurately even if you wanted to.

>>718966838
They were fucking team and project LEADS. That guy who moved to blizzard for example has all sorts of shit. They literally made GDC presentations on this shit.

>>718940058
I actually found Daikatana (with the fan patch) pretty enjoyable.

>>718942149
One is a simple metroid like made by 3 people, the other was a shitty Overwatch clone released 8 years too late.

>>718966612
I disagree. I see a heavy disconnect, particulalrly with westeren AAA devs and what people are willing to pay for. You see the divide most cleanly with Gacha, where the dollars spent correlate very directly with designs.

>>718966217
you do realise people posting in rightwing circlejerks and leftist circlejerks are quite literally the same and hold same values (none)

Being able to see an obvious large-scale flop months in advance is a real treat.

>>718938154 (OP)
Concord's a weird thing to me. It's a catastrophic failure of unseen proportions, absolutely meteoric in impact and only God knows how much it's going to warp Sony's output in the long run. Yet, there's really not much of a story to it and it's more emblematic of how unsustainable live service games are rapidly becoming. It's not some protracted lolcow scenario like DmC's development, TORtanic, or Phil Fish's Twitter where every day was a new dawn for months on end, always something new to laugh about. No, Concord launched and then collapsed like a fucking star. It was a spectacle, but then it was over. I dunno, I feel weird about it.

>>718942809
>That's a satire subreddit.
Wrong, it's a hugbox for seething fags disguised as a circlejerk pretending to be a satire sub.

>>718967205
I worked in animation, no one on the department was part of the craziness. Even Xander, the guy who called gamers talentless hacks was just a normal guy, still ran his mouth online which is a rookiee move. Just a bunch of dudes who shared endless early 90's anime inspiration and lamented the fact that we were working on another souless hero shooter.
I even worked with the professor a bit and she was normal. People in games are typically gamers/developers first then activists second. I have met a few people that flip, maybe some people on the writing team i never met.

Funniest thing about this was the 10 or so people who the game was made for on Resetera hoping and coping

>>718968000
The DmC devs thought it was a good idea to go to war against the old fans so you had them giving interviews shit talking the original games, or saying Dante is like a gay cowboy. A general sense of hubris and cluelessness. I am sure that the Concord devs are similar, but they have been pretty quiet (most got rehired elsehwere).

We also dont' have much information of the internal development, but it seems like it was a shit show. Imagine "Prof Brown" as a senior manager?

>>718954209
That very first teaser trailer kind of said it all in retrospect. They were so smug, so confident, that they dropped this turd that basically says nothing at all, and expected it to create mystique and hype.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb-xvCPecps

>an hour of credits
https://youtu.be/Zfbu0De0oBU?si=j79FDZ-qqOyE4LTW

>>718951817
>>718952727
Did anyone play/read/watch those?
How bad it is?

>>718951783
>paid for a TV show
Did they ever actually air that episode?

>>718968000
I get what you mean. Approximately nobody cared about the game after its reveal, but it really only started getting attention, ironically enough, after its beta... where it became evident that NOBODY was interested in it. I don't remember the exact numbers, but they were absolutely dire.

After that, the people that were in the know waited to see if its launch would be as cataclysmic as its beta, but the larger public only heard about the game after it was dying in a ditch.

>>718968303
And I thought trying to sit through Sonic Colors Ultimate's credits was bad.

>>718968443
yeah. it wasn't good.

>>718942204
Shadows was such a big hit the IP was sold to the CCP immediately after the game dropped. And Ubisoft STILL hasn't released sales numbers.

>>718951817
You're telling me gamers weren't lining up to play a scowling indian woman named Haroona?

Concord was a money laundering thing right?

>>718968303
There's too big to fail and then there's too big to stay alive

>>718968263
Trailer looks sorta interesting, but I'm imagining an ADVENTURE game, akin to Cowboy Bebop. "Free gunners" are hired mercs, effectively freelance soldiers and police. They're always in dept, and bopping around trying to get work.

The story and setting lend itself to an action-adventure story NOT a hero-shooter story. It doesn't make any sense why they're shooting and fighting each other like they're on some kind of a team.

>>718938154 (OP)
>What do we think about Concord
It was really, really funny.

>>718939317
Also: you can still play Daikatana if you want. It's on GOG. Haven't tried it yet but its apparently not quite as bad as its made out, it was just released in a very unfinished state.
Also, it isn't full of fat browns and trannies.

>>718968183
All there really is to say about Firewalk is a.) Sony bought them, b.) the game was in some kind of development for about 8 years and c.) there were rumors of a culture of toxic positivity, so you basically couldn't criticize the game and its direction. That last point is kind of something but we really don't know all that much about what happened with this thing. It probably was that bad, but at least they kept their head hung low about it.

>>718968263
So baffling. What’s with all the food? Lol

>>718968585
I don't believe so. The devs must have genuinely seen Overwatch and MCU at the peak of their popularity, thought "we could do that too", and then spent 8 years working on a game when both topics have since become irrelevant.

>>718968454
Their peak on steam was 660, meaning only a few thousand player base. No one even liked the game, so the people curious enough to go for a few rounds in the free beta didn't go back to buy it. It was a disaster.

>>718968620
I think the fact they couldn't even have a proper enemy group, or multiple enemy groups was ridiculous. Since their own story scenes show the characters together, yet in gameplay they are somehow fighting each other, or clones of each other.

>>718938154 (OP)
fags hate money, end of story

>>718968585
Probably not, but I think Dustborn might've been.

>>718968585
No, Sony execs, like most execs in general are retarded.

Aside from this image being generally desperate and pathetic I find it funny that the 3 most played characters were the one who largely looks like a white man, reasonably attractive asian woman and a man who was clearly meant to be white but was painted green

>>718939317
>MGSV is 14 years after Daikatana, and it's now 11 years old

never even finished it after I took a break from playing it.

>>718968000
It was just the inevitable end result of the ridiculous budget and development time creep given to live service games combined with a complete lack of understanding that DEI does not improve your odds of success, it obliterates them and success is despite it, not because of it.
For a decade studios and devs have been clamoring for live service money which is easily 10-100x more than they'd get with a single purchase game and anyone could have predicted something like this happening.

The reason Concord had no real discourse and just died while 99% of people laughed at it is because it was totally unappealing. Complete dogshit cast, awful style, tired and boring genre, very obvious copying of other studios 8 years too late.
There was no pushback because no one could possibly defend any aspect of it. You just laughed at the playercount and the revelation of just how much fucking money went into the piece of shit.

>>718968898
>man who was clearly meant to be white but was painted green
Actually he was supposed to be a lizardman alien, lol

>>718968829
The "how do you do, fellow kids" energy here would make a fucking scouter explode.

>>718969102
If he could've done a flip he would've.

>>718969008
I think he's also meant to be some sort of cowboy but he just has a revolver and some riding boots

Amazing how they fucked up both concepts with this godawful design

>>718968758
This makes me think that story and premise were written long ago and repurposed into a Hero shooter. Think about it. It really sounds like the setting is about a crew on a ship going on adventures, finding new people to add to the crew. That's what all the cutscenes and story videos are about.

Then the gameplay is them in arenas fighting each other. What for? Lore justification is that once they hit the plannet "Freegunners" don't care about personal loyalty and only about the "prize" (whatever it is). Okay. Why not just stab my crew mates in their sleep when we're in orbit? Why wait until we get down? None of it makes sense.

Story and gameplay are massively in conflict here.

If they made "Cowboy Bebop with the names changed" I think people would have some interest in it.

>>718938154 (OP)
>concord was 1 year ago

That cant be fucking right

I remember driving to work cause we got fucking forced to return to site and listening to the concord aftermath
How the fuck is it a year already, fuck no fuck this

>>718969102
Captain Tupperware looks even more goofy in-game than in profile pictures.

>>718968898
Yeah, players were picking the most normal looking designs, like they were trying to ignore the worst parts and imagine it's a better game.

>>718940458
>when your video game is only known for Thugnificent in a wig

>>718969217
Time is a motherfucker.

>>718969172
For sure. I remember during the proper reveal of the game you could sense what little interest was there draining away the moment it showed the real gameplay as I guarantee people were thinking it was going to be an adventure or story/rpg.

>>718969042
This is Nick Shore lol

>>718954639
Star Wars franchise was literally "built at once" since it spawned from the movies and was an immediate hit, you retard

>>718969309
This game would unironically be better if it was actually Thugnificent in a wig. It might not have flopped so fast.

>>718968829
I lost this pic on my old computer and I'm very happy to see it again

>>718969335
This man has lived long enough to become the villain.

>>718938154 (OP)
>its been a year since concord release and shutdown

>sorry honey I'm going to be late home tonight
>bosses are making us play this shitty dead-on-arrival game to try and promote it

>>718969489
Rumor has it some of these codes remained unused at the time of Concord's closure.

>>718969543
No way I simply can’t believe it. I thought it was like 3-4 months ago?

>>718950921
>2019
Things are different now.

The tie-in controller looks pretty decent thoughbeit the fact Sony made a special PS5 controller for this turd is still hilarious

Are LA faggots this out of touch with the general public to make something like this and think i'll become a multimedia franchise?

This game was a prime example of how out of touch execs are
If even one of them actually bothered to familiarize themselves with the industry they peddle shit like this wouldnt happen

>>718938154 (OP)
i genuinely wish i could play this now.

>>718969723
In some circles, yes. To play some kind of devil's advocate though, this was conceived when shit like Overwatch and Guardians of the Galaxy were at peak relevance.

I can only imagine the emails being sent out from the higher ups when they finally realised Concord was doomed

I'll just give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that it was some sort of tax-scheme/

>>718969620
Am I crazy or was Firewalker studio some company put together by some OTHER company, whose goal is to create dev teams for games?

>>718969623
I can accept like 6 months or something, but 1 year is absurd

>>718969749
Why? How much value would this have even as lost media or whatever?

dont worry bros sony still has plenty of live service flops coming soon
we have much to look forward to

>>718969805
It was truly embarrassing. They even forced their other dev studios to give it attention.

Looking at this roadmap and that Secret Level episode (lol) I can only assume it was meant to hype up the new character and new season

>>718969930
You would think with flops like Concord and Hyenas getting the plug pulled right before release should tell companies to take their hero shooters and put a bullet in their head now.

>>718967986
What makes this even funnier is the fact that.....they dont even kill anyone

So it was made with kids and as wide of an audience in mind

>>718969930
>we have much to look forward to

I think they're getting cancelled. Fairgames is officially not cancelled but there's been total radio silence when now is when they should be starting to generate hype.

I think it's cancelled but they haven't made the announcement yet. They may let the dev studio toil for a few months more.

>>718970024
I assume this is what's going to happen with pic related and maybe Marathon

Which would be a shame, because I want them to both come and flop horribly for the lulz

>>718969952
I still don't understand the point of any of this in-universe or out. Why are they fighting on some random maps when they're friends?

Why not just go all out on the premise? These people are captured prisoners who have to fight each other in arena matches for their freedom.

>>718970158
>Something went wrong.
Yeah, he actually bought this piece of shit.

>>718970024
A hero shooter and online service can make a billion dollars a year in profits easily. Thus throwing around 400 million seems like a good investment. When you're dealing with big numbers, it's easy to lose sight of things.

I think "hero shooters" mostly died out and it was only a thing because Overwatch was popular for a few years. Shit like GTA Online seems like it has more staying power.

>>718970190
Because its a fucking video game

Concord is a big steaming pile of shit but you are seriously mentally ill for getting stuck on this "why do they fight each other" part

>>718948175
>Good points, and I hope wokeness and cancel culture are dead for the next few decades.
Colleges are still churning out NPCs. The price of victory/dominance is constant vigilance.

>>718970175
I love it when articles and reviews age like milk.

here's your legendary skin

>>718970273
The Marvel hero shooter is literally a thing.

>>718970040
>What makes this even funnier is the fact that.....they dont even kill anyone
>So it was made with kids and as wide of an audience in mind

So again: just stick to your premise. Splatoon is an arena multiplayer shooter but no one dies. It tries to keep it consistent.

Everything about Concord is fighting itself. The story has them as friends, then they fight each other. Everyone uses real weapons, but they don't kill anyone and violence is played for laughs. PICK A LANE AND STICK TO IT.

>>718970190
Some weird liberal delusion getting in the way of making a team-based shooter where all the characters are le heckin wholesome with each other in the cutscenes

>>718938567
they went out of their way to merchandise concord, that's how much they expected it to work, they already had shit lined up for production, including an animated series if i remember correctly

it bombed so hard

>>718970175
>>718969937
>>718970175
The IGN article is fine, they're just goign "okay are the numbers as bad as they look?" (the answer was "yes").

PC Gamer however has consistently for years been very faggy in that soft boy male feminist style. I have no idea why they've gone this route.

>>718970495
>based on popular video games and franchises (and Concord)
Actual tears in my eyes, goddamn.

>>718970273
The West just needs to accept the Eastern model which is attractive and likable characters to sell their live service games, but that isn't possible in the West at the moment.

>>718970372
>Everything about Concord is fighting itself

To add to this, so was the basic gameplay loop which encouraged you to switch characters every round to get buffs, but it still sold itself on being a hero shooter where people like to get attached to the characters and pick mains (although good fucking luck with any of these character designs).

Also promising weekly story cutscenes for a purely PVP FPS where the story doesn't matter is a bold choice.

>>718970331
>age like milk
no he's right. FPS games should not ever be played with a controller

>>718969161
Every single character is two or three different concepts smashed together. Nobody could tell the fat Asian guy was supposed to be a healer, for example. And several characters have tubes on their costumes that were never explained in the lore provided.

>>718968756
Man, we couldn't have gotten 6 anons to buy the game to bump it up to 666

>>718970374
>Some weird liberal delusion getting in the way of making a team-based shooter where all the characters are le heckin wholesome with each other in the cutscenes

I think that's the reason. They want a diverse cast but they're terrified of making any of these diverse cast members a villain.

I would make a hero and villain faction from the get-go. The bad guys could be evil stormtroopers, and I bet you anything they'd be 100x more popular than the diverse fags.

>>718970701
I think the game would've shut down anyways before you convinced 6 /v/irgins to play Concord.

>>718970175
Being a game journo (any journalist really) sounds like some creative torture technique. Not even I could look at dogshit like Concord and lie through my teeth for any semblance of positivity for it, let alone with a paycheck on the line.

>>718969161
He's clearly a lizard cowboy who can't swim (thats why he wears the orange inflatable lifevest)

>>718970638
You know what? The robot might be the only good design. Faint praise I know because it's really hard to make a robot look unappealing.

Then you get shit like pic related that >>718970691 mentioned and you wonder how the game didn't die even sooner

>>718970642
That's an opinion to hold and a justified one at that, but in the real world that was a spectacularly bad read of the room.

>>718969102
people were doing this because it was the most time efficient way to level

>>718938154 (OP)
If they brought it back, made it F2P, removed all in-game moderation and the only thing you could buy in the cash shop was auditory and written slurs to spray paint it would do megabucks.

>>718970637
>weekly story cutscenes
I feel like a different game a long time ago tried to do this and it ended as well as you expected

>>718970879
>make character that people will first guess is a tank of some sort due to build and weapon
>is actually the medic
There's a reason we don't go against basic design tropes.

>>718938154 (OP)
I know nothing about it apart from the horrible character designs.

>>718960719
What gets me the most is the "So I'm supposed to struggle with who I am?" line. Like yes, you are.

>>718968979
>>718968000
What really surprises me is how this keeps happening
Flop after flop, every form of social media gave INSTANT feedback to Concord,
>Overwatch clone fatigue
>Why is this a hero shooter and not a team based pve shooter
>Why show off a story trailer for a multiplayer game that obviously wont go into the story because the gameplay loop will be deathmatch and capture the flag
>The characters are all ugly etc.
>We have GOTG at home kek

etc. etc.

Surely someone, SOMEWHERE in these dev studios isnt asleep at the wheel and is aware of this feedback. How do entire teams of people get hired to work on this slop and NOBODY realises its a car crash waiting to happen?

>>718938567
I think some people in /v/ don't fully understyand how bad Concord was. Concord refunded everyone money and was removed from all stores.

It didn't just lose profit, it made ZERO profit.
Like, that's actually insane. Most flops still end up paying back something. Carter is cibnema's bihhest flop but people did see it. Disney got some money even if it wasn't at all enough to justify costs. Concord made ZERO dollars. Not a few million. Not a few thousand. Not a couple hundrted. Not even 5 bucks. It was straight 400 Million burned and with shit like the Level Up episode, likely more as it was invested as Sony's leading new IP.

It goes beyond failure. It was an abject waste of time that likely destroyed the very souls of the poor morons who thought this was a golden goose.

>>718971083
honestly i would have played it even with the shit designs if it was a PVE mission based game
would have made more sense for the story too

>>718968000
It tried to compete in an oversaturated market of hero shooters and presented nothing appealing to get it any foothold.

>>718971083
Devs probably see it clear as day. Publishers look at the handful of successes and wish it was them. The people in this industry that actually handle the money are fucking retards that don't understand the trends they're trying to manipulate.

>>718971109
>cibnema's bihhest

>>718971012
And when they did make a tank they just made a big fat mutt who managed to look completely non-threatening and completely unappealing

>>718961137
>writers want the audience to think she is in the wrong
They do think she's wrong. They're writing from their own perspective. That's how insane these people are.

>>718971083
Cocnord is the most baffiling cause as much as we can blame executives being incompatant bussness majors that don't understand the medium they are invested, too much of Concord seems so against basic audience appeal that a lot of it's fault has to be put on the actual dev's and artists.

Executives are shit because they are insect brain soul suckers that are dictated by fads and what will sell to the LCD.
Look at these characters. What executives would reccomend this? I'm sorry, but this is the product of a bunch of people who had a vision. A awful, bad vision that circlejerking/toxic positivity prevented them from seeing the shit they were making and executives with no real opinions of their own looked at and shrugged "They worked at Bungie, so they probably know what they're doing".

>>718971362
>>718961137
Yes, anyone who has anything but immediate adulation is evil and wrong.

>>718971467
The one white guy there has the appropriate reaction

>>718969825
Yep
ProbablyMonsters

Its really weird.

>ProbablyMonsters is an American company founded in 2016 by former Bungie CEO Harold Ryan.
>It is structured as an incubator for independent, AAA game development studios, providing them with centralized support for operations, HR, finance, and other functions

The company launched several studios under its umbrella:
Firewalk Studios: The creator of the multiplayer shooter Concord. It was acquired by Sony in 2023 and shut down in 2024 following the game's commercial failure.
Cauldron: A studio that was developing a single-player adventure game. ProbablyMonsters shut down Cauldron and its project in September 2023.
Battle Barge: This studio had a project canceled in October 2024, resulting in the layoff of about 50 employees.
Hidden Grove: This studio was added in 2024 to work on a multiplayer project, reflecting the company's shift in strategy.

HIDDEN GROVE LOOK OUT

These would have almost certainly been the new characters. The white man (not shown here) was a traitor and is killed.

>>718971467
Devs have little interest in making a game, but instead impressing their peers. They make sure to:

1. Avoid heteronormality.
2. Avoid gendered characters
3. Avoid the male gaze.
4. Avoid cis het male as default.

>>718971682
kek, nice edit

>>718949995
clash of clans looking ahh

>>718960719
What kills me about this is how much genuine effort the mom is putting in to understand the situation, even spotlighting alien terms for alien concepts that may very well fit the situation, and yet our little snowflake here has a meltdown as if they've been personally offended. Like, there's a million ways this conversation could've been worse on the mom's end and yet she's the perfectly rational one here. I get that we're trying to convey the difficulties of identifying as an alternative gender or whatever, I don't care THAT much. But the sheer incompetence at conveying that point, the degree to which this exchange misses its own point is staggering. Like, how do you fuck it up this badly?

>>718968000
because there was absolutely no attachment to it. DMC, TOR, and Fez had fans that actually cared about the games and the people making them. Even DmC has its own defenders these days. But nobody cared about Concord at any point. There was no previous iteration to make people interested in what Concord was, it just existed as another game in an oversaturated genre. Nobody knows or cares who the devs were, and the game didn't even have a community. So once everything was said and done it just vanished back into the nothingness it came from.

>>718971168
I agree but see >>718971467
There's only so much blame you can put on execs when the devs are creating designs like that

Compared to Deadlock. Now Valve isn't infallible by any means but have a look at one black character design they've put out (Still in closed beta and subject to change mind you)

He's black character. Instantly you think, ok diversity if it was a shit design
But thats not what you REALLY think about the character. Instead you're instantly drawn to
>The cool outfit (The game's art style is all supernatural noir)
>The fact that this is a dude that controls fire and shoots from his hand with finger guns
>Everything about his outfit says FIRE and HOT and has typical fire character traits like cocky, smug, confident etc.

Its such a smooth, simplistic design. There are obviously good devs and bad devs in the industry, I cant look at thoe designs and think anyone with talent was working on concord

>>718971467
>tfw the only character I can kind of guess the role of is the guy in football gear
If he isn't just the standard army mc shooty guy, then I have no clue what they were cooking up.

>>718972104
He was, he was also the most played at least in the beta, so that speaks volumes

>>718971951
Life is a battleground between good and evil. Evil is extremely obvious and simple. Therefore anyone questioning this is supremely evil and engaging in shameful behavior that we can then dunk on.

This is leftism 101. It doesn't matter the specifics. It's also why leftism is incompatable with friendship or family. The revolutionary cause always takes prescedent.

>>718972104
He was literally John McCallofduty and he was the most popular in the beta

Even from the perspective of someone who's never played games, calling something "Concord", after the glorious but unprofitable jet liner that air lines were keeping even though they were losing money, is really asking for it.

>>718972104
Look at the skinny bobble head space suit girl second to the right.

Guess how she plays.

>>718972064
Is his name Dylan? Does he spit hot fire? But seriously, Concord's an exception because I don't think anyone was in the right with that mess. You actually can pin some blame on the devs within reason.

>>718938154 (OP)
Bazzed

>>718971467
I bet you there was tons of meetings about the top left guy. Higher ups probably said add a white guy to balance things out. They wouldn't want that. The compromize is he's latino.

>>718971671
More frumpy nothings.

>>718972358
On top of all of that he still has a shit design
Looks like he's about to go paintballing or doing a shit cosplay of another FPS character

>>718972259
I see a rocket launcher looking weapon, so my guess is some kind of specialist character, like a tank buster or something.
Now, why a game that has no vehicles would need a character designed to take those out is anyone's guess though.

>>718938154 (OP)
Concord was the physical embodiment of everything that the screeching femcels/faggots and psychotic corpos had in mind for the future of gaming, and it's wonderful that gamers dealt such a cataclysmic and humiliating blow to that project. They've been awfully timid lately, and the absolute routing that was Concord undoubtedly plays a big role in that.

We're not out of the woods yet, though. Keep closing your wallets and mocking their failures until they're finally miserable enough that they hand power over to people who actually have the will and the ability to work for the gaming community.

>>718972419
They keep giving characters armor pauldrons because they don't understand how any of it works.

In melee combat, you would have a metal helmet to deflect a blow downwards, then metal shoulder pauldrons to stop the blade. You may notice that modern armor does not have shoulder pauldrons.

What I'm getting at is you should at least understand armor first before you can make interesting designs.

>>718972419
The tried to go for B- movie sci-fi style like how classic Star Trek looked like it had a lot of props made of low quality material the prop people had to scrunge up from shit they just had on hand.

It basically tried yo turn that sort of low budget style into something new: Cardboardpunk.
Problem is doing that style while also going for the hyper realistic fully detailed setting just creates this weird mish-mash that looks ugly.

>>718972593
Yeah but think about how cool those guys would look with big football pad pauldrons.

>>718972627
>The tried to go for B- movie sci-fi style like how classic Star Trek looked like it had a lot of props made of low quality material the prop people had to scrunge up from shit they just had on hand.

If anything, Mass Effect was heavily influenced by Star Trek, just with a bit more "budget" for alien costuming.

>>718972450
Because a lot of these projects were started during peak SJW brainrot and development times being what they are, I think we've still got a few more years of this shit waiting for us. I actually want some of it to release just so it does flop horribly, it sends a good message.

>>718972710
super cool

>>718972437
She's a rip-off of Phara from Overwatch.
Her gimick is that she flies around in the air and most of her abilitites involve flight.

Now I'm not a big fan of OW but compared to Pharah, where her whole design looks like a bird, what details about Concord's version of the same class would give players the indication she's the "flight" character?

This was a game made by professional artists.
I hate every business major with a passion but for once this is not their fault.

>>718972731
As I mentioned 6 hours ago in another post, "Fairgame" seems to have been started right in the aftermath of the peak BLM "eat the rich" period of 2020-2021. In only a few years this movement seems so completely alien to the modern consensus. Looking back, it was clearly a moral panic.

>>718938154 (OP)
The only reason why I remember it at all was because of that one /v/ sings thread that was dunking on Sony.

>>718972976
Has it been officially cancelled yet?

>>718972884
>This was a game made by professional artists.
>I hate every business major with a passion but for once this is not their fault.

Oh a huge chunk of art degrees are bullshit, and they let anything go and don't teach basics. The SH2 remake has wonky looking fugly character designs, where every single character has the wrong body proportions. none of the team ever learned basic anatomy. They learned how to model and use digital tools, but lack a classic art background. The devs of the original game did.

Maria's manjaw and giant head, alongside Angela's weird face get the most attention but ALL the characters have wrong body proportions. All of them for instance have fingers and arms that are too long.

>>718970341
whoever 3d modeled this shit, I bet he had a hard time going back home and thinking on what he did

>>718940458
I look forward to more queen of /v/ rap battles with the Bazzinator.

>>718942964
This was a beautiful read, I lived through this. I watched it grow, develop, be introduced into every major institution including politics, and watched every true believer proudly boast about this being a good thing, then vehemently deny it when it was convenient to do so. These delusional fanatics still stalk these halls, ghosts of the post Tumblr era.

>>718970879
>Faint praise I know because it's really hard to make a robot look unappealing.
For me, the female bald assassin robot its tremendously unappealing, no female will ever look good bald, no matter if its a robot, it has to have at least something resembling hair.

>>718972884
>make basic foot soldier with heavy weaponry, is actually supposed to be a flier
I don't even see a jetpack, I have no idea how I was supposed to get that.

>>718972593
>You may notice that modern armor does not have shoulder pauldrons.
>posts image of interceptor
one job nigga

>>718967852
There's overlap, but the people who made software tools to harrass streamers who played hogwarts, the people who metooed rocksteady, and fucked up ubisoft for the past 4 years and bragged about it at GDC are the real deal.

>>718938154 (OP)
I remember giving an unbiased review of all the character designs, I wish I had it somewhere

>>718944542
Look you've already got two trying to throw out distraction chaff. Truly a spiteful, horrible little group of disgenic mutants.

>>718938154 (OP)
Deeply curious how flops even get funded. Like, are all the executives who greenlit this shitshow blacklisted from the video game industry for all eternity now?

One can hope.

>>718973174
Yeah the most baffling thing about the industry these days is how shitty everything looks. Like I still don't understand how companies can pump so much money into a project just for it to come out looking like this >>718959319. It's absolutely ridiculous that some PS2 games look better than a lot of the shit we have today. It's no wonder people have started singing the praises of indie games when AAA can't seem to make anything that actually looks good.

>>718943146
>People said it was an awesome place to work
From what I've heard, working under a glass ceiling and under the sunlight was a nightmare for some devs.

>>718968150
At the same time, the dev teams post GG have shifted dramatically, and SOMEBODY's doing it.

For what it's worth, the polish on the animations, integration with SFX , the select screen animation, and the like were actually great. It's that the fundamental ideas for the characters was terrible. All these guys would have been top rate background chararacters in some Mos Elisely hive of scum and villany worthy of Oz and Lucas.

Here's hoping you get less retarded projects in the future.

>>718973581
Ah here it is, it was easy to find because no one mentions any of the other characters ever except Bazz
>Teo
Pretty solid, why is he wearing a laser tag outfit? Could stand to be a little more rugged and look less like George Michael
>Haymar
She's ok, makeup and ear spikes are a little weird. Again, the outfit is like a sweater turtleneck that has the sleeves sewn, why? Also she looks angry oh no
>Star Child
This looks like a meme palette, this is his default look? I swear I've seen his design in a ton of anime but with a proper color scheme. Or maybe like a mix between Beast and Thanos
>Emari
The fuck are you wearing, this is a theme now. Like a bunch of hazard barrels and a 1920s football helmet on a 90s fat black AW HELL NAW stereotype
>Lark
Fucking hell I can barely stand to look at this thing, the shoulders and the coom helmet are killing me. His face looks him look like a grown up harlequin baby
>Roka
Lord Helmet from spaceballs on a tomboy build?
>Lennox
Crackhead with jaundice wearing a life preserver
>Jabali
Kind of weird jazz/MJ thing going on but then the weird turquoise coat again who designed these outfits and picked the colors
>Daveers
She's kinda cute and...I'm just noticing the pronouns for the first time lol sorry I guess. The outfit makes it look like intestinal organs on a bee-keeper outfit.
>KYPS
This isn't a character this is an NPC you murk in the tutorial
>VALE
Actually kinda cute but I don't understand the fuckin turtleneck obsession this game has
>1-0FF
An actual barrel with arms
>IT-Z
Not terrible, might actually be better without the Ramona tumblr hair and just make her a bald fish woman. Btw just noticing everyone has terrible names too
>Duchess
I dig the old woman design, she doesn't look like she has a stick up her ass, even the cape thing is okay I guess. Maybe it's because she looks like Sindel that I'm going soft but whatever
>The Bazz
10/10 best character
>Dawwwwww
Big blue coat over a ninja turtle cosplay

Why does it feel like there are different levels of woke? MCU is pretty woke, but the same company that made Black Panther also knew a solo Falcon movie would never sell, not unless he did his Captain America cosplay. Same reason they waited forever for a Black Widow movie, because they were afraid it wouldn't sell and they didn't want to put money into a money losing project. Then there's Concord that went full retard and bet money on all it's awful woke shit selling. It's like half the industries understand it's all just surface level bullshit and the other half have completely bought into it.

>>718972593
I think that unpractical armor with pieces that serve no functional purpose can look cool or sexy, but he's so aggressively unremarkable that the pauldron just makes him look cluttered.

Which is the whole goal of Concord's aesthetic. It's modern art show shit created by stupid and spiteful people who want to feel smart and high-minded.
>Even the low-minded plebs can appreciate The Raft of the Medusa, but it takes a truly sharp mind to see the meaning behind a banana taped to a wall! Look at this wonderful art that I'm creating!
>Also, I'm so oppressed by all of the talented people around me and the plebs' appreciation of them! I'm bringing about justice by celebrating my narcissism and lack of accomplishments!

>>718973406
Uh, she wears a space suit IDIOT.
>But so does like half the cast. It's a sci-fi setting
IT'S DIFFRENT.

>>718968348
I did, because I don't believe in shitposting about a game unless I've actually experienced it. It is 100 percent pure SBI at their most indolent. Every single long winded, intersectional polemic is completely telegraphed by the exact racial and gender makeup of the character in advance. Flintlock, Shadow Tactics, the Suicide squad logs, South of Midnight. It's all exactly the same crap from them.

>>718968443
Yes. And it featured NONE of the characters in the game. It was supposed to be their season 2 people.

>>718938303
Truke fippy

>>718968454
>>718968756
One interesting side note is that the second beta was LOWER than the first..

The more people played it, the less they liked it.

>>718968303
just for the fun of it, Elden Ring credits is 8 min long
https://youtu.be/_lSeisyhrqk?

>>718968585
No. In order to money launder, you need an illegal source of money to clean. In fact, given Concords MTX model it would have been very bad for money laundering.

They also didn't get too many obvious grants for DEI shit, otherwise they'd be in the credits.

>>718973605
Fuck no, most of them failed upwards in the first place.

>>718968748
We know about the press, and their freinds who went full bore batting for this game, and had access to the devs.

I mean look at this shit:
>>718968597
And Paul Tassi is at fucking Forbes. His entire existence is following the money and reading the market.

Concord was not only a loss, it LOST ADDITIONAL MONEY BY SELLING, Sony had to supposedly refund $700,000 of 25000 sales, which came out of their own pockets. So not only was the full $400,000,000 development cost lost, they had to spend an additional bit of refunds on GAMES SOLD.
Now I understand why Hyenas was cancelled. If it sold a few copies, refunding those copies is additional losses.

>>718973605
Business has become an industry entirely led by friends and nepo babies. They all fail upwards cause they're all buddy, buddy. Money lost? Fire a couple hundred employee's, get gibs from the government through years of bribery and they're set with another golden parachut to make the same mistakes again.

>>718938154 (OP)
It's an abstract kind of feel having worked with many members of Concord's gameplay team in the past and then seeing Concord burn like that. Then again they continued working and I'm doing nothing with my life so perhaps it is better to have Concorded than to Concordn't.

Kids, don't live near Seattle, you'll either go crazy or hate your fellow man like me.

>>718973639
A lot of the PS2 stuff opted for some stylization even if they were attempting realism. But realism back then meant something different than now.

Now we have ugly realism, where it aims for photo-realistic, fails horribly, and has wonky animations and faces and details. Ugly ugly ugly.

>>718969723
Yes. But this is PNW. Keep in mind that the execs are reading a steady diet of trash from the big gaming media.

>>718968183
>or saying Dante is like a gay cowboy

>>718969825
You are absolutely correct.

>>718970024
The bigs are still going to take some sort of swing at live service. But you can see it's not easy. Look at how much Valve is struggling getting Deadlock right.

niggertrannyfaggot game ack'd
they got what they deserved, I laughed
that is all

>>718968842
i still wonder if this is just sarcasm or not

>>718948175
>Good points, and I hope wokeness and cancel culture are dead for the next few decades.
NOPE. AAA s take 3-5 years to make, and they STILL haven't had key turnover. They're still using people who hate guns, cops and the millitary on fucking Battlefield and rainbow 6.

>>718970426
Correct. Concord the controler with it's own unique mold. sweatshrts, hats, ect.

>>718971617
>Yep
>ProbablyMonsters

This seems at best poorly thought out. At worst, they're an intentional scam to create a middle man to make hundreds of millions of dollars selling poorly thought out companies to dupes like Sony.

Probably monsters has a 000 batting average in what a decade of existence? Why does this exist? It should be seen as an outright scam at this point, or hopeless.

>>718974410
>I'm doing nothing with my life so perhaps it is better to have Concorded than to Concordn't.
Listen, I do agree much of /v/ cyncism and misanthropy comes from a lingering fear of failure and shame. I think a lot of shut in become the way they are cause it's easier than to go out and admit part of life is being cringe, or made a fool or getting dsissapointed.

With that said, this is one of the few times where. no. No, the failure from this has no silver lining.
No potential lesson or experience gained from this was worth such disasterous results, especially since it was all lessons any other person could've easily seen coming via common sense.

Bad projects happen. People, like me, like to dunk on it but that's just life and you got to move on and learn.
This? This wasn't a lesson anyone needed to learn. Sometimes a failure is so fucked beyond repair.

>>718938154 (OP)
Where is the white guy?

>>718970524
Morgan park is a corporate stooge. Backed concord, AC shadows, Suicide squad, too extra time to shit on chuds for the last one.

>>718970875
If it makes you feel better, it's almost all written by bots now.

James had the most work done... but I still think everything about his proportions are subtly off. Even his head is a bit too big.

>>718971671
I'm going to be nice.
The Axolotl goblin thing looks alright.

>>718971083
Check the gaming press articles about it. They wrote ALL that shit off as spam by chuds, and that real gamers would love it.

>>718974726
>This seems at best poorly thought out. At worst, they're an intentional scam to create a middle man to make hundreds of millions of dollars selling poorly thought out companies to dupes like Sony.
Didn't the "father of Megaman" made a coimpnay that was just this?

>>718938154 (OP)
I think it's a fascinating cultural artifact which should be preserved and studied.
Consideration such as this are why I signed my name on the #StopKillingGames petition.

All digital sales were refunded so technically the game's sales are negative. It has NEGATIVE sales, imagine that. Fucking Hyperdimensional Neptunia Sisters Panty Quest Uwu has like 50k sales and was made on a shoestring budget, Concord technically doesn't even have 0 sales, it has NEGATIVE sales.

>>718939642
Games to stop the passage of time and get my shit together?

>>718939642
i literally didn't believe it and had to go check.

>>718974917
It's always fun when that happens. They got super mad when the black character was the least romanced by a massive margin in Veilguard and Baldur's Gate 3.

>>718970024
And yet Marvel Rivals came out after and it a ludicrous success. Why can't people just admit that the characters and setting is important to games. TF2 sold itself on its characters, as did OW, as did MR. These failed games tried the same, but with infinitely worse characters.

People need to stop being cowards on the necessity of sex appeal.

When you look at popular male characters, these characters are also prime husband material. Geniuses, warriors, and funny men. All types who would have to beat the women back with a stick.
The gender swapped version holds true for female characters. They need to be the types of women who men would put a ring on. What men want isn't Sylvester Stallone, Walter White, or Dave Chapelle. They want affectionate, humble, and vulnerable women (not to the extent of being annoyingly useless; there's a large sweet zone here), and physical beauty is way more to men.

Also, while it's not 1/1, there's a huge crossover between what men and women like about the sexes. If you make a female character who's appealing to men, she'll appeal to way more women than some fat black woman in a turtle costume who's designed to be actively repulsive to men. Not that everything should be about what women think all the time.

>>718971617
PM's next two AA classs games are coming up, and here's what they got. Note that at least externally, they've gone full steam away from obvious woke shit.

https://www.gematsu.com/2025/08/co-op-side-scrolling-roguelike-action-game-storm-lancers-announced-for-switch

https://steamcommunity.com/app/3547420#scrollTop=0

>>718957475
What a veteran.

>World of Warcraft
>Jan 2006 - Aug 2008
>Development, design and deployment of user interfaces for World of Warcraft, The Burning Crusade, and Wrath of the Lich King.

>Women in Games
>Ambassador
>May 2022 - Present

>Licenses & Certifications
>Get in the Game DICE, Mentee
>Women in Games International (WIGI)

>Secret Clearance
>United States Air Force
>Issued Mar 2019 Expires Feb 2027

Fascinating.

>>718971951
>Like, how do you fuck it up this badly?
'Trick weeks and the veilguard team found a way. And this was after the previous game where they had words for tranny in their language.

And this was supposed to be STEN'S people.

>>718974761
Well, at least I can laugh at the absurdity of it all. That's something I can thank Concord for.

>>718938154 (OP)
>a year ago
I do not believe this

>>718974904
Even setting aside how unappealing all the characters were. In what market did they think anyone wanted that shit? It's a multiplayer game, you just want to play not watch it.

>>718973143
No. Officially delayed to 2026. STILL has job listings for hire.

>>718973174
I'm a doofus. What I see are yaoihands.

>>718975318
>tfw just found out Gundam Wing is on it's 30th anniversary this year
fug... i had gundam wing toys when i was a kid...

>>718945512
>Regan
>The Gun Grabber who made California perma blue
>Based

>>718973605
FUCK no. They aren't even being held accountable by investors. They're the sony fucks who spent 3.6 BILLION on bungie.

>>718975209
>People need to stop being cowards on the necessity of sex appeal.

Feminist theories include major components: Patriarchy, intersectionalism and queer theory. Concord is all of them:

>Queer theory

holds that men/women don't even exist, and are social constructions. Anyone who is socially constructing gendered stereotypes is worse than hitler.

>Intersectionalism

holds that the more intersectional levels of opression you hold, the more moral and oppressed you are. The less, the more privledged. Making a privledged character makes you worse than hitler.

>Patriarchy

holds that there's a male controlled conspiracy of all aspects of our lives to create sexism, including the idea that women are sex objects.

They are ideologically constrained by their moral systems. NEVER make sexy characters for men ever.

>>718974410
Go get yourself paid anon. Better to work on a crashed project than sit around shitposting.

>>718975306
same here, the day concord was killed and the whole /v/ catalog was nothing but concord threads... boy was that a funny day...

>>718974761
WORTH? Disagree strongly anon. This is the free market issuing a correction to the big gaming press and out of touch execs. And PM themselves have pivoted their games entirely.

Fun fact: ET (which was thought of the biggest flop for decades) was actually a success financially in terms of profits to dev costs. It only was so bad because they made way too many copies and lost a ton of money on that. These games lost money without evening needing to mass produce copies due to digital downloads lmao

>>718975243
She's a goddam glowie? And not in the Burning Crusade sense?

>Over a year from Concord
What the fuck

>>718975209
>They want affectionate, humble, and vulnerable women
I disagree with this to a certain extent. While there has been a severe lack of the classic "cute" girl I think there is room for female characters being a bit more rough around the edges. The biggest problem with the modern girl boss characters is that they are usually both ugly and not even really characters. Being ugly is self-explanatory, but the not being a character part is just as much of a problem I think. Most of these characters only exist so someone can go "look at that strong female character". It's entirely about representation instead of actually making an interesting character. And turning them into a mary sue is usually the icing on the cake. A girl can be tough while still getting her ass beat by a man. This is also why tough girls in japanese games are usually given a pass.

>>718975914
I think Concord has to be the biggest flop in the video game industry at this point. /v/ always chases the high that was Tortanic, but The Old Republic carried on as a game to this very day.
Concord was millions wasted with absolutely nothing gained.

Are there any big flops coming out soon? I have more fun watching shotty games burn than I do actually playing games these days.

>>718975914
Correct. E.T. sold well over 2 million copies, but that doesn't mean shit when that's maybe half the cartridges you produced. E.T. couldn't have had much of a dev cost since it was basically one guy slaving away at it for 5 or 6 weeks.

>>718970341
They just didn't understand

>>718976043
>in the video game industry
It's probably the biggest flop in entertainment history. Hundreds of millions of dollars sunk for an absolute net zero profit is unheard of.

>>718976060
Marathon game from Bungie.
idk they delayed it indefinetly after (another) plagiarism controversy.

Sony's gotta be suicidal right now.

>>718938154 (OP)
Today we honor the fallen
Goodspeed concord

>>718976043
not many games get the "Was" moniker on wikipedia

>>718971150
I fucking loved this. It was the exact grey slop I expected from Outer Worlds 2. A sequel to a game that was also grey slop

>>718976043
Tortanic was always blown out of proportion outside of launch, it was in danger of failing at launch because people are tired of "traditional multiplayer-focused" MMOs, once it transitioned to a single-player focused MMO and rather than subs the revenue was focused on cosmetics, the game made a shit ton. If they had focused on the subscription revenue and mutiplayer focus, the game would have crashed and burned.
Now the game is in trouble because they aren't investing any money into it, it went from full expansions with story and cutscenes and new party members to AI content and 1-hour expansions.

>>718973878
None of the designs are "solid". The best designs are mediocre, and they're dragged down further by the fact that they share a roster with a bunch of ridiculous freaks. There's no character here who makes me say-
>Man, I really wish that character wasn't trapped in Concord!

I refuse to adjust my standards downward to fit the scale that Karens and fags want me to accept. That includes the new scale that they're going hand us where everything is designed to be bland and inoffensive. Those who don't have both the will and the ability to create a great artistic vision shouldn't be hired on to creative projects. They should be competing with China and South Korea in terms of appealing designs.
>But I've been ruining videogames for fifteen years! This is my career! Where does that leave me?!
McDonalds or Walmart. Take your pick.

>>718971671
I liked that the female captain shows that she doesn't shave her armpits at least three times in that episode

>>718975558
Feminism is a Marxist hate movement and needs to die with the Boomers.

>>718938154 (OP)
on release my left wing brother who doesn't give two shits about this kind of thing messaged me out of the blue just to make fun of how ugly the game is

>>718976183
I don't think Bungie has long left before it gets massively downsized or gets its head cut off considering that Destiny seems like it's utterly fucked and Bungie has had a major hand in all these Sony fuck ups and now that the head has departed as well. Remember Microsoft laughed at the price tag Bungie wanted while Sony paid it with no questions asked when Destiny was already going down the shitter.

>>718973878
I actually kind of liked KYPS

>>718938154 (OP)
I hope Sony’s pussy is still bleeding from how much money this lost. If this doesn’t slap some sense back into them, nothing will.

>>718975453
Even then the vinegarettes we got were extremely thin and barely had any actual interesting shit or characterization in them

They were well made, but lacked any sort of soul or interest

>>718976402
Tortanic was a lolcow situation. People wanted it to fail but realistically, it was just fun to laugh at the customer service snafus.

>>718976681
It looks like they recovered from Concord

>>718976681
>I hope Sony’s pussy is still bleeding from how much money this lost.
We have no idea how much damage this has done to them. I don't think even Sony knows.

>If this doesn’t slap some sense back into them, nothing will.
Then nothing will.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-re-commits-to-live-service-games-says-bungies-marathon-wont-suffer-concords-fate/1100-6532419/

>>718960469
no. it's that people with mental illness need more gibs for their normal pills so they have an interest in increasing gibs

>>718976806
I'm pretty confident that Marathon will flop. Not as badly as Concord did though.

>>718976696
Tortanic had the potential of giga-flopping though, Bioware managed to course correct in time, and /v/ is too attached to the initial flopping. A lot of people that play MMOs aren't as interested in the mandatory-multiplayer content of the old days and were just forced into it. Look at skillers in Runescape, solofags in WoW, they just want to do the occasional multiplayer, sometimes talk, but prefer to do their own thing.
Tortanic COULD have Titanic'd if they had tried to focus on being a "traditional MMO" instead of what they did which is focus on the story, NPCs and the player's journey.

>>718976035
The west can't create iconic female characters because they're scared of admitting that everything that makes women great are the exact qualities that feminism has labeled "demeaning" and "sexist". If you want an iconic female character, the scales need to be tipped heavily in favor of the feminine. If she's masculine in one area, she needs to be hyper-feminine in several other areas. Maybe she's a bit of a loud-mouthed thug, but she's not disgusting, her boobs are huge, she loves posing and dancing around (women do this IRL BTW), her outfit is revealing, and when she puts on a dress, her femininity shines through. That needs to be the mindset if what you're trying to do is create a female character who will stand the test of time.

Anime is basically a factory for popular female characters because they embrace femininity instead of trying to explain why they shouldn't have it.

>>718976974
The fact that Bungie's head just left makes me think that things are not going well within that company.

>>718976806
Bad enough that Hiroki Totoki had to pretty much scold Hideaki Nishino.

>>718976461
Wat

>>718976756
Sony is way too big to fail.

>>718942964
I deserve reverse cock and ball torture

>>718977268
So the Secret Level episode revolves around a no-nonsense tough black female captain who steals all the charted hyperspace routes from a monopolistic evil corporation. During this episode where she gets captured and I think frees herself, evil corporation tries to extract the chip containing the routes from her but fails.

During this episode she shows her hairy pits at least three times

>>718977134
I'm sure he was always planning on leaving. Bungie was already falling apart by the time Sony bought it, they literally didn't have enough talent to maintain Destiny 2 which was struggling to make money. He simply took as much money as he could and left Bungie as Sony's problem to deal with.

>>718977383
I cannot fathom why they would do that. Literally every choice they made makes me think they were trying to fail.

>>718977346
They aren't until they are.

>>718977383
>no nonsense tough black female captain
Imagine watching such a thing

Sony should make another hero shooter staring brown mystery-meat blobs who hate white men, i bet this time it'll succeed

>>718977754
Is Fairgame$ coming close to releasing yet? That one is by Jade Raymond, right?

>>718977843
It's dubious as to whether or not we'll ever see it because we haven't seen anything since the announcement trailer and Jade Raymond was removed from her own company after external playtests were extremely negative

Shame. They're probably trying to save it. I wish we got to see the pure cringe we were meant to get

>>718977125
Samefag here.

"There are IRL women like this" isn't a great justification for character design and writing choices. Your average guy is an average guy. Does that mean that the main cast should be predominantly occupied by average guys? Of course not. They should be embodiment of male ideals. That doesn't mean they shouldn't have flaws, but the good needs to be larger than life.

For your typical videogame, your female cast SHOULD be stars, and that they need to be idealized women.

>>718978120
They're probably just delaying the announcement so it's not back-to-back press about Sony fuckups