Thread 725084859

Is it just me or does this game get way too much hate on /v/? Yes the story sucks and the MC looks ugly, but all the maps are really fun to play and the emblems really reward creativity for character building. You aren't playing FE for the story anyway, so why is this taken as such a big deal?

Because it's the only criticism people have to go off of.

>>725084859 (OP)
Look Fa m! If you hate it, you hate it. If you like it, you like it. I like the girls, so that's enough for me to enjoy the game. This thread is probably gonna die in less than 50 post

>>725084859 (OP)
It’s cool, but I wish the IS branch for FE leaned more into a kind of new game plus or have better repeatable post game content. I’d love to be able to do a replay but have drastically different unit builds from the getgo.
Kinda curious if a Switch 2 performance patch will come. Animal crossing getting a switch 2 version just randomly announced could be a sign of them doing the same for this, 3H, or others.

>>725084859 (OP)
It doesn't match the new tone and world building standards set by 3H which is something the average player can notice. Only avid fans can appreciate map design and character building.

>>725084859 (OP)
> does this game get way too much hate on /v/?
nah. /v/ loves engage. only 3hrt hated it

>>725086186
all FEs are supposed to end at the final boss
if you add any postgame content I'm not playing it
see: creature campaign

>>725084859 (OP)
>you aren't playing FE for the story anyway
If I didn't want to care about my units, I'd play Advance Wars.

edelgard

>>725084859 (OP)
>lYou aren't playing FE for the story anyway, so why is this taken as such a big deal?
I play for the hot girls and the dating. Only Awakening and 3H are good

>>725084859 (OP)
>You aren't playing FE for the story anyway
oh honey

>>725089247
grim

It's the best Fire Emblem

>>725086254
Basedman

>>725090772
hot slut

>>725091090
Slut for my cock exclusively thoughbeit

>>725091175
Based. Ivy is only meant for you

>>725091227
I married her...

>>725091285
Good.

>>725091369
Has there ever been a more deserving girl of marriage in FE history?

>>725092674
>>725093071
Sexo
>>725093041
Lil sexter

>>725084859 (OP)
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/721491557/#q721506470

most of it is one schizo whos never touched a mainline fe before

>>725093345
Very sexo.

>>725084859 (OP)
I play FE for anime people and their relations, Engage has /vt/ avatars with wo character traits who only live around (you).

>>725093425
Sex nino

>>725093486
Breed Nino

>>725093448
>I play FE for anime people and their relations, Engage has /vt/ avatars with wo character traits who only live around (you).

Very easy to tell when someone started with Awakening when they say shit like this >>725093448

>>725093721
HOLY FUCKING PANTIES SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How old is she...

>>725084859 (OP)
I think Fire Emblem's story is Kino of the highest order.

>>725095070
It’s very easy to spot those that don’t understand that being attached to the units was part of FE’s focus from the beginning.

>>725084859 (OP)
Nobody fucking cares, nindian marketer

>>725084859 (OP)
Engage mapse are too gimmicky. Difficultyfags just want to take all the RPG out of Fire Emblem and turn it into a puzzle game. They want fire emblem to be more like Advance Wars which fucking died for a reason

Vander solo when?

>>725101068
https://youtu.be/aM9_TD5Dxxs

>>725101021
Yes you nincompoop. It’s a puzzle if the map has a gimmicky solution that is the only way to beat the map like how Fire Emblem Heroes is a puzzle game. Don’t even passive aggressive reply to me again

>>725100732
>”No see it’s (D)ifferent now. Now units have more than 100 lines of dialog and that makes it WORSE. Nu-FE is BAD! How dare they actually expand Supports that started when Kaga was gone! Even though I never even knew the series existed before Smash!”

>>725101527
supports are a dogshit system for character development that they still haven't figured out how to make good in 20 years
TRS' system of story and map based events for character interaction still mogs every FE support system to this day

>>725084859 (OP)
>Is it just me or does this game get way too much hate on /v/?
Nah, it got the appropriate amount of hate then got forgotten because it sucked ass.

The main gimmick is putting rings on your units for them to fly around in gay outfits and be broken for 3 turns. No amount of "fun to play maps" can save this garbage.

veyle sexo tho

>>725084859 (OP)
I don't like how it plays. "press X to awesome splasy ultimate moves have no place in Fire Emblem, expecially when it's done by someone with scifi jet turbines on their back and a cyber visor on their head. Just have the sword dude do a short flip and the mage having some wind blowing his robe when they crit. The rings are also so busted that the game has to bend over backwards to make them not steamroll everything which makes ringlets look like a joke. It's like they saw people taling shit about Claude's batallion clearing half a map and then decided to pump that shit up and give it to everyone.

>>725084859 (OP)
I stopped playing at around chapter 16-17 out of boredom and because I got tired of getting my dick sucked harder than corrin did in back in his game also Alear is such a big crybaby makes me regret picking the guy version.

Cutesythea

Where do I start with Fire Emblem if I just want fun SRPG and interesting characters and maybe some coomerism? The series looks fun but I keep seeing that this game is bad and this one is divisive and this one got ruined by localizers and so on

>>725104238
Fire Emblem 7 is a pretty good starting point

>>725104238
Most of them are fine, anons here are just so set on console war faggotry because someone doesn't like their favorite game as much as they do.
The GBA has 2 good entry points and you can run it on potatoes.

>>725084859 (OP)
Gameplay wise I think it is THE best. The story drags it down but I'd still put it top 5. And the story isn't the worst or anything (Echoes) it's just really hammy.

>>725102284
Kek, you actually did it.

>>725084859 (OP)
fe is a tranny franchise
normal people dont pay attention to or play them because they are dumbed down tactics rpgs for retard tranny shipperfags/actual women

>>725100869
>Nobody fucking cares, nindian marketer

>>725103572
> >Is it just me or does this game get way too much hate on /v/?
>Nah, it got the appropriate amount of hate then got forgotten because it sucked ass.

>The main gimmick is putting rings on your units for them to fly around in gay outfits and be broken for 3 turns. No amount of "fun to play maps" can save this garbage.

>veyle sexo tho

>>725104025
>I stopped playing at around chapter 16-17 out of boredom and because I got tired of getting my dick sucked harder than corrin did in back in his game also Alear is such a big crybaby makes me regret picking the guy version.

Kissing Ivy on the lips

Her pussy lips to be exact

>>725084859 (OP)
>You aren't playing FE for the story anyway, so why is this taken as such a big deal?

Why the fuck would I want to support a game that makes my protagonist some limpwristed clown, in a series about LEADING AN ARMY?

>>725108375
engagefag OP is a gameplay autist, let him cope in peace

>>725084859 (OP)
It's underhated actually.

>>725108375
Yeah, I hate Roy too

>>725084859 (OP)
it gave me my wife so I don't care

>>725108375
> >You aren't playing FE for the story anyway, so why is this taken as such a big deal?

>Why the fuck would I want to support a game that makes my protagonist some limpwristed clown, in a series about LEADING AN ARMY?

>>725108548
>engagefag OP is a gameplay autist, let him cope in peace

>>725108730
>It's underhated actually.

>>725108921
Why is your wife a child clown

Marriage with Marianne!

>>725084859 (OP)
Only one or two maps are decent. It had Conquest syndrome in that it had one decent map, so they jerk it off and claim it’s the bestest Fire Emblem ever!

>>725086676
You can care about units without story. You care through gameplay experience, ala XCOM.

>>725109352
Conquest has like 15 great maps thoey. Engage is not as good for a few reasons but I don't think they're related to map design for the most part.

>>725084859 (OP)
>You aren't playing FE for the story anyway
Yes I am. I want my Fire Emblem games to have a compelling story, otherwise the rest of it isn't as impactful. If I don't care who these characters are or why they're fighting that's less of a reason to care about them in gameplay. People had problems with FE8 having a lackluster story and worldbuilding back in the early days of the Western fandom. The Western fandom was almost wiped out by the DS remakes having nothing stories. The idea that story doesn't add to FE games only became a thing when Awakening came out and millions of new people started playing. And that cope was proven wrong again when Three Houses came out and became the biggest game in the franchise on the back of its story, worldbuilding, and characters. Engage didn't have that. It was another Komuro game so people trotted out the same Komuro defense. So no, fuck off. Tourists don't get to tell me what I value in a franchise I've been playing for over twenty years.

I would have liked Engage a lot more f the ring system wasn't in it. I just want some blue haired dude hitting a red haired dude with a sword instead of pulling my devil trigger and watch my Stand shoot actual missiles.

>>725110185
>Three Houses came out and became the biggest game in the franchise on the back of its story, worldbuilding, and characters
But those weren't actually good. It sold because it was harry potter persona slop.

>>725084859 (OP)
Mika pikazo is a shit artist
We finally get an opportunity to have a superior female dominated fire emblem game and all of the female characters are fucking clowns.

>>725109352
Conquest was a much better game. It had more than two good maps and unit progression over the course of a playthrough was pretty great. The game actually rewarded you for planning your Corrin build, pairings, and second seals. I've played through Conquest almost a dozen times just because the unit progression is so good. I played through Engage once and hated it for having the worst parts of Awakening (level reset reclassing and canon wank), the worst parts of Fates (recruitment trios who mostly invalidate all early game units), and its own giant problems (emblem ring super states). Even Birthright is a better game and I don't even like Birthright all that much.
>>725110456
People still have heated arguments over their perspective on the story six years later. The musou doesn't take place in the monastery and it sold better than most musous because people wanted to see a what if scenario in Fodlan. The game has a larger legacy than the prerelease fears of it being a Harry Potter Persona.

>nothing but bot replies bumping the thread
>mods aren’t insta 404ing because a game war is going on
Noticing…….

>The anti-engage sperging out again
Gacha, not even once.

>>725110781
Conquest maps have higher highs and much lower lows. Nobody wants to play fuga's wild ride of kitsune hell. Engage's maps range from good to inoffensive and that matters more when you're replaying the game over and over

>>725084859 (OP)
>and the MC looks ugly
Only the MC?

>>725110976
The Brodians are hot.

>>725110945
>Nobody wants to play fuga's wild ride of kitsune hell
Ch 20 is a great map lol. Kitsune, not so much because of how easy it is to cheese, mainly. That's probably the worst map in the game, with ch 11 being the other notably bad one.

>>725110781
>I played through Engage once and hated it for having the worst parts of Awakening (level reset reclassing and canon wank)
Umm. Your level doesn't reset when you reclass in Engage. Your displayed level does, but internally it stays the same. It's not like Awakening. Idk what you mean by canon wank.

>>725110945
>Nobody wants to play fuga's wild ride
speak for yourself
and you can always skip all of it if you don't want to go through everything by riding the wind
>>725111170
it becomes hell to get to promotion if you ever reclass a base class because you need to get to 10 displayed level while having an internal level that cripples your xp gain

>>725111170
Displayed level affects your ability to reclass which is why I dislike how they implemented it. Reclassing before promotion is a good way to brick a unit since you're stuck in a ten level hole if you use a second seal when you first get one, made worse by the internal level curving their exp gain. There was no reason to make reclassing reset your level. They should have added a separate item for that if they needed infinite grinding available as a feature.
Canon wank being wanking off to the franchise by shoving in references in place of the game having its own ideas. Engage's was much worse than Awakening's but I still find them to be similarly tasteless since Awakening started the habit of shallow direct references to older games. It was also a soft reboot since it was Mystery of the Emblem but bad this time.

>>725111673
Affects your ability to promote*
Got ahead of myself.

>>725111614
>it becomes hell to get to promotion if you ever reclass a base class because you need to get to 10 displayed level while having an internal level that cripples your xp gain
Just promote and then reclass? I have issues with Engage reclassing (unrestricted reclassing and rings hugely homogenize the cast), but the level complaint is kind of minor. My only real issue with it is that you can't actually view your internal level.

>>725111810
It's not minor when the system causes your unit to become less useful despite allowing you to spend a valuable resource on them. They had fixed this in Fates. There is no good reason for them to go back to the Awakening reclass system.

is your MC male or female?

>>725111810
>Just promote and then reclass?
yes, that is the optimal and honestly only choice there is
that change means that building a unit will always be done the same way
no 20/20 and no profiting of different class growth rates for early levels, it's all downsides with no benefit

>>725111991
It's not like it hides the fact that you're setting yourself back to level 1 when you do that. ILVL 10 is really not difficult to reach, so I'm not really sure I follow why you feel the need to do that. Just don't.

>>725112065
Nigger if you're level 5 you're talking about literally 5 levels of 10-20% different growth rates. It wouldn't even make a real difference.

>>725112065
Promoted classes have better growths though, are you a grindfag that would purposely make a unit worse for like 2 extra strength in the long run?

>>725112025
Male Kris
Male Robin
Female Corrin
Female Blyat exept in Deer route
Female Bepis.

I wish I could emulate Engage on Steam deck.

>>725112065
It further harms the early game roster, especially the units they designed as reclass bait. Clanne and Framme want to swap out of their starting classes and so does Anna. They're already difficult units to use who will be replaced by the royal/retainer trios later on. Bricking them back down to level 1 in a base class because you wanted to do the thing the characters are clearly designed to be doing sucks. It wouldn't be such a problem had Fates not already fixed it.

>>725111673
>you're stuck in a ten level hole if you use a second seal when you fist get one
Does that really matter? The moment you promote using a second seal will give a unit advanced classes as reclass options instead of just base classes. Just use a master seal on the unit first which you would want to do anyway since their internal level remains the same and they get the benefit of higher growths than base classes and faster access to the class skill. This also only affects units up to Brodia, practically everyone after that point joins in an advanced class or is in a unique class.

>>725112330
No, I like promoting early in most games
It's just that I believe it hurts the game when it's so overwhelmingly the right choice especially because of promoted growths

>>725112420
Shut the fuck up trannygagefag.

>>725112025
Male in every game.

>>725112559
Second Seals and Master Seals become available at the same time but you can buy more Second Seals at the vendor than Master Seals.

This complaint is very green-numbers-coded

I still say reclassing and open ended classes were a mistake. Swordman lolicon should stay a swordman and you should not be able to put him on a horse. Everyone being able to be anything just makes it a minmaxing thing and kills what makes a character unique.

I love my wife, Annette.
>>725084859 (OP)
Engage's biggest issue is that it doesn't create a great first impression. From character design to introductions, the game ever overplayed its hands or repeats tropes ad nauseam two retainers per leader Once you get used to characters and their play style, you find one of the most satisfying SRPGs in recent memory. 200 hours of pure fun.
>the story sucks
It's not the worst, the presentation is overblown.
>MC looks ugly
It's their attire. Why you can't change it in-battle without a class change is beyond me.

>>725112940
Nah Fates reclassing is fun as fuck

>>725112792
It's Fates coded. One of the best parts of Fates was doling our your early Second Seals. Do you swap Corrin to your chosen secondary class or do you give it to Jakob to get a Jagen? Or disgustingly, do you give it to Mozu to get her going as an Archer for chapter 10 because you plan on using her? Do you swap units into otherwise worse classes for a few levels to pick up good skills?
That's interesting progression. They fucked this up in Engage which makes the reclassing system almost worthless.

>>725084859 (OP)
I thought it was really fun. like you said the story is shit but that's okay because gameplay comes first. maybe that's why 3hrt's hate it

>>725113084
If you like giving your characters the best skills in the game and becoming a god-king then sure. But for me that should stay in games like Disgaea.

>>725113147
Your complaint is actually about the fact that it's unrestricted in Engage, which is boring and meant that skill-collecting was no longer something they could have. It's not because of this level shit.

>>725113309
That's AN issue with it. I have further issues with it. What kind of faggot tries to override someone's problems with their own? Go fuck yourself.

>>725113330
AAAAAAAAA MY EYES

>>725113271
I pretty much dislike Disgaea. You don't seem to get it.

>>725112420
You can’t? I thought EmuDeck had like two Switch emulators

>>725113271
Pathing your progression to have certain skills before the maps they're useful for is good actually. Disgaea is uncapping your level to grind infinitely.

>>725113513
It doesn't run well I think. I'll have check again

>>725113402
I agree that Dedue is ugly, but that's an overreaction. Calm down anon

>>725112721
There's only 3 master/second seals available before chapter 10.

Creativity is best served on a blank canvas. Fire Emblem's are already filled in for the most part, leaving any rewarding experience wanting. Also, for me personally, I found most of the characters and the overall artstyle to be abhorrent. It looks (and sounds) like an episode of Mighty Paws.
>You aren't playing for the story
Then cut it entirely.

Does any other fanbase have a story/gameplay divide as big as Fire Emblem's?

>>725093721
My dick

>>725114925
MMOs. But the fake story/gameplay divide in FE is really a generational divide. The only people who claim story doesn't matter are 3DSbabies and people who for some reason landed on Engage.

>>725115028
Story doesn't matter for replayability which is the main draw for many.

I wonder why they don't add a timer into the gameplay? or make it similar to ATB, wherein your opponent has a delay between moves, but can continue to act whether (You) have or not.
Seems like the gameplay is no different from checkers. Except in that game you want more pieces, and in FE you get rewarded for having less.

>>725084859 (OP)
I literally am playing for the story, or less reductively the gameplay-story integration. I'd be playing a multiplayer competitive game if I cared about gameplay being worthwhile beyond the most basic amusement.

>>725115028
It's not a generational divide at all, you see oldfags split like this too if you pay attention.

>>725084859 (OP)
>You aren't playing FE for the story anyway
This, all FE games have bad stories, with some FE games having much worse stories than Engage.

>>725115392
This. If you cared about story, you'd be playing other RPGs instead of Fire Emblem that actually have good stories.

>>725115231
Berwick Saga has enemies move after your actions. There isn't a player turn/enemy turn split.

I liked the character designs. I couldn't get into the game because of this. any game that relies on nostalgia is not a game worth playing

>>725115231
Yeah that sounds like a great way to ruin any SRPG

>>725115675
I'm not sure why they insist on writing nostalgiabait when the writer of those nostalgiabait games hasn't played any of the games she's trying to reference.

sex

>>725115771
Sigurd spoils the twist of FE4 in like half of his bond convos lmao

>>725115675
New players got into Awakening just fine.

>>725109352
>Only one or two maps are decent. It had Conquest syndrome in that it had one decent map, so they jerk it off and claim it’s the bestest Fire Emblem ever!
>>725110185
>You aren't playing FE for the story anyway
>Yes I am. I want my Fire Emblem games to have a compelling story, otherwise the rest of it isn't as impactful. If I don't care who these characters are or why they're fighting that's less of a reason to care about them in gameplay. People had problems with FE8 having a lackluster story and worldbuilding back in the early days of the Western fandom. The Western fandom was almost wiped out by the DS remakes having nothing stories. The idea that story doesn't add to FE games only became a thing when Awakening came out and millions of new people started playing. And that cope was proven wrong again when Three Houses came out and became the biggest game in the franchise on the back of its story, worldbuilding, and characters. Engage didn't have that. It was another Komuro game so people trotted out the same Komuro defense. So no, fuck off. Tourists don't get to tell me what I value in a franchise I've been playing for over twenty years.
>>725110394
>I would have liked Engage a lot more f the ring system wasn't in it. I just want some blue haired dude hitting a red haired dude with a sword instead of pulling my devil trigger and watch my Stand shoot actual missiles.
>>725110543
>Mika pikazo is a shit artist
>We finally get an opportunity to have a superior female dominated fire emblem game and all of the female characters are fucking clowns

>>725110976
> >and the MC looks ugly
>Only the MC?

>>725111614
> >Nobody wants to play fuga's wild ride
>speak for yourself
>and you can always skip all of it if you don't want to go through everything by riding the wind
>>>725111170
>it becomes hell to get to promotion if you ever reclass a base class because you need to get to 10 displayed level while having an internal level that cripples your xp gain

>>725111673
>Displayed level affects your ability to reclass which is why I dislike how they implemented it. Reclassing before promotion is a good way to brick a unit since you're stuck in a ten level hole if you use a second seal when you first get one, made worse by the internal level curving their exp gain. There was no reason to make reclassing reset your level. They should have added a separate item for that if they needed infinite grinding available as a feature.
>Canon wank being wanking off to the franchise by shoving in references in place of the game having its own ideas. Engage's was much worse than Awakening's but I still find them to be similarly tasteless since Awakening started the habit of shallow direct references to older games. It was also a soft reboot since it was Mystery of the Emblem but bad this time.
>>725111991
>It's not minor when the system causes your unit to become less useful despite allowing you to spend a valuable resource on them. They had fixed this in Fates. There is no good reason for them to go back to the Awakening reclass system.

>>725110781
>Conquest was a much better game. It had more than two good maps and unit progression over the course of a playthrough was pretty great. The game actually rewarded you for planning your Corrin build, pairings, and second seals. I've played through Conquest almost a dozen times just because the unit progression is so good. I played through Engage once and hated it for having the worst parts of Awakening (level reset reclassing and canon wank), the worst parts of Fates (recruitment trios who mostly invalidate all early game units), and its own giant problems (emblem ring super states). Even Birthright is a better game and I don't even like Birthright all that much.

>People still have heated arguments over their perspective on the story six years later. The musou doesn't take place in the monastery and it sold better than most musous because people wanted to see a what if scenario in Fodlan. The game has a larger legacy than the prerelease fears of it being a Harry Potter Persona.
>>725112065
> >Just promote and then reclass?
>yes, that is the optimal and honestly only choice there is
>that change means that building a unit will always be done the same way
>no 20/20 and no profiting of different class growth rates for early levels, it's all downsides with no benefit
>>725111991
>It's not minor when the system causes your unit to become less useful despite allowing you to spend a valuable resource on them. They had fixed this in Fates. There is no good reason for them to go back to the Awakening reclass system.
>>725112678
>Shut the fuck up trannygagefag.

>>725116873
>>725117120
>>725117463
what

>>725117619
New here?

>>725115334
>I literally am playing for the story, or less reductively the gameplay-story integration. I'd be playing a multiplayer competitive game if I cared about gameplay being worthwhile beyond the most basic amusement

>>725117619
Troongayge fag seething and malding as always.

>>725117714
>>725117798
yeah, I've never browsed an FE thread before
I was trying to get away from the schizo meltdown retards are having on the NG4 thread but seems like you guys have your own resident schizo

>>725114925
>divide
Is it a divide if storyfags make up like 80% of the fanbase?

>>725117798
Stop trying to pin this Heroesnigger on us. He's part of the gacha mental illness through and through.

>>725116873
>Breaking site rules
For what purpose

>>725117936
He clearly only quotes the posts that shit on troongayge though.

>>725117846
that's every thread now.

>>725117619
>what
>>725117714
>New here?
>>725117798
>Troongayge fag seething and malding as always.
>>725117846
>yeah, I've never browsed an FE thread before
>I was trying to get away from the schizo meltdown retards are having on the NG4 thread but seems like you guys have your own resident schiz
>>725117901
> >divide
>Is it a divide if storyfags make up like 80% of the fanbase?

>>725117992
And he only started doing that a few months ago. He's been spamming shit here and on /vg/ for years on end and was born from the Heroes cancer general.

>>725117846
It's some mentally ill gachatard who thinks there's a villian here he's fighting or some shit

>he's pretending to be multiple people again and concern trolling about his existence because he isn't getting enough genuine reactions
STOP FALLING FOR IT
do not reply

>>725117936
You're poor.

>>725117901
A lot of that 80% are people who don't go to forums or imageboards to argue about Fire Emblem so within the walls of FE online discussion, it's a bit more even.

>>725118280
>none of these posts have anything to do with finances

>>725118991
So what's the qrd? Was it a schizo war all along?

>>725119282
Two gacha schizos from /vg/ who hate each other and make it everyone else's problem if I had to guess.

>>725119384
We can only hope that the gacha reaches EoS soon. Only good thing it brought was nice official commissioned art.

>>725115675
>what is mystery of the emblem
>what is FE6
>what is FE11 12 AND 13
>what is echoes
you must really hate this franchise then

>>725118317
I still see more storyfags than gameplayfags online through.

>>725119476
Fuck that. The gacha needs to last forever so Maeda never gets another chance to work on the main series again.

You don't need to read anything from the archives. Just think of it this way. Imagine every day you're walking to work some schizo with a weird personal vendetta against something you like comes up to you and tries to argue with you disingenuously about the thing that you like. When you decide you don't care to bother with him he still comes up in your face and screeches ad hominems at you.

At the same time there's another different type of schizo, who's always across the street from you and never talks to you directly. Every day he throws garbage and pisses in front of a local 7-11. When asked why he does it he says it's cause there's an child sex trafficking ring in the basement of that 7-11.

First question, at this stage, which one are you more likely to have a sour impression of? Which one are you more likely to take seriously?

Now imagine the first guy being flabbergasted that you insulted him, called him annoying, and reported him to the police. The first guy brings up the guy who pisses in front of the 7-11 for some reason and can't comprehend why you've never said anything bad about the second guy or cared to report him. He accuses you of being in cahoots with the second guy and uses that as another ad hominem against the thing you like.

Meanwhile children in the area around the 7-11 have been mysteriously going missing. Whenever someone brings it up though the first guy immediately shows up and makes sure to track down the person who bought it up and make sure they know that all the rumors started from a crazy guy pissing in front of the store. Either that or he accuses whoever bought it up of being the second guy in disguise. All while fervently insisting he's just a random bystander and has nothing to do with the 7-11.

Hmm.

>>725119589
Maeda Emblem wasn't perfect but it was still better than what we have now. Just like Masuda Pokemon.

>>725119554
You forgot Fates in that list

>>725119554
>mystery of the emblem
Remake + sequel.
>FE6
New setting and cast.
>DSFE
Shit remakes no one liked.
>Echoes
Polished turd remake.
Non-remakes sticking characters from other games directly into a new setting for the purpose of referencing a disconnected game from the past is garbage.

>>725118079
>It's some mentally ill gachatard who thinks there's a villian here he's fighting or some shit

>>725118063
>that's every thread now.

>>725118280
>You're poor.

>>725117980
> >Breaking site rules
>For what purpose

>>725117992
>He clearly only quotes the posts that shit on troongayge though.

>>725119554
>>what is mystery of the emblem
>Direct sequel with a remake of the first game is nostalgia bait
Look. Maybe with the DS remakes and most certainly Awakening and Fates, but saying the OG MotE is nostalgia pandering is peak retarded.

>>725119560
>I still see more storyfags than gameplayfags online through.
>>725119589
>Fuck that. The gacha needs to last forever so Maeda never gets another chance to work on the main series again.

>>725120000
there's literally no reason to add book 1 besides
>REMEMBER WHEN MARTH DID THE THING IN THE FIRST GAME??
call it what you want, but it's literally just FE1 pandering

Doesn't change the fact that we're going to get 10 more years of that ugly as fuck three houses game.

>>725119282
almost everyone ignores the spammer entirely, except for one guy who obviously has a personal hatred towards him that samefags every time.

according to the spammer its some schizo war from /vg/.

spammer says the other guys name is alexej koltchanov and he's the anti engage schizo in the images.

whenever this gets bought up people usually ignore him like they usually do. but its hard not to notice how they guy who argues with the spammer all of a sudden vehemently denies it and goes out of his way to consider what the spammer is sayin a schizo

then he had a meltdown the other day, admitted that nobody else cared to do what he wants them to do about the spammer, and how that made him upset and he wants all /v/ FE threads to be "razed" to the ground or something

>>725120406
i remember when faggots from /alter/ shit up /v/ because they put a character in the arcade version of fgo
more indication of how braindead gacha fags are

>>725120406
goes out of his way to call whoever considers what the spammer is saying a schizo****

>>725120285
The reason they remade FE1 for FE3 was that FE1 was limited by the Famicom. There were plenty of FC to SFC remakes in that era.

>>725112215
She looks like she rapes unconscious dragons.

>>725120804
except book 1 is a watered down FE1, it has less chapters and cut characters; it's literally MORE limited than the NES original. book 1 did not need to exist at all and it really feels like the game wasn't designed around it

Need FE girl pantsu

>>725118991
Kek, just remembered when the Engagie ragie got banned from /vg/ after bragging about shitting his pants.

>>725121705
>Kek, just remembered when the Engagie ragie got banned from /vg/ after bragging about shitting his pants.

I will marry the next FE girl posted and have lots and lots of babies with her!~

It's the best Fire Emblem for one reason.

Bro I don't care. post Anna

>>725123663
Which one?

Thief kino

Been thinking about playing this game again, the gameplay was fine but I hated the story and the terrible translation, I got to chapter 15 but I don't remember any system that this game has. Should I start over or keep going? Any interesting mods out there?

Female GOOD
Male BAD

>>725124401
>Not using the translation patch to avoid the dogshit localization
That's your first mistake

>>725124059
They're gonna steal my semen!

>>725123717
Engage

>>725124401
There are mods that let you do things from the menu that used to require teleporting around the somniel which is pretty nice. Also there's a mod to unlock all of the DLC characters without having to beat it if you want to use them in a normal playthrough (though I wouldn't recommend activating it until your units are around level 20 because it will rape the DLC paralogue scaling)

Its slightly better if you use the uncensored patch and JP audio.

>>725113618
Try whatever the latest Yuzu fork is (Eden?) still under development that makes there most of GPU usage. Last I checked Ryujinx still lacks some of the features Yuzu's legacy forks have.

>>725125229
Wewwww
Got any Anna

>>725124401
>story and terrible translation
>https://varishangout.com/index.php?threads/fire-emblem-engage-uncensored-patch.1730/

Done by the same guy who picked up TeamIF's half complete Fates/IF and basically finished it. There are only a few things left to finish for Fates/If but Engage is all done.

For me it's Shamir

>>725125597
One guy? Confirmed not MTL?

>>725125623
FUCK OFF

>>725125229
>pegasus knights
>panties

>>725125669
It's not a MTL, don't worry

>>725123975
What does frog ass taste like?

>>725127038
chicken

>>725084859 (OP)
because why couldnt the devs just write a good story regardless? The characters were too corny like a 4kids show. It was a downgrade from 3H especially for the new fans. It is a fun game but their justification for its heavy criticism. Also, Alear is ugly as sin.

>>725090772
dick rider

>>725127949
Am I the only one who finds this guy's art ugly?

>FE fans going "This story is le terrible!" instead of going "I just don't like this FE game" for the Xth time
>Also thinking FE games ever had good stories from the start

>>725128283
Genealogy and Thracia were at least equal to their contemporaries at the time but after that, FE really got left in the dirt hard in terms of story. Other RPG stories can't be picked apart even half as hard as FE stories can, the writers for FE besides Kaga are just not on the proper level to tell the stories these types of war games deserve.

>>725129151
Playing Berwick Saga has really gotten my brain rumbling again. It was instantly recognizable as something he'd write since it goes very hard into world building through character introductions.

>>725129151
this. Only Kaga was capable of making a decent story. He wasn't perfect but at least there was some fucking effort and planned things out years in advance so far ahead IS was cribbing his notes all the way till PoR/RD

>>725129151
I just hate the McDonald's playpen vibe THE games took on post-Jugdral, and the smallness of the worlds since then. Jugdral felt BIG and somehow serious. It felt like this actual continent embroiled in a generations-panning world war. No game has captured that vibe for me since, not Tellius and not 3H, even though they clearly tried. Sacred Stones in particular felt like the most nigger ass nothing world. It's more like a sitcom with fantasy dressing.
I won't be one of those fags saying FE stories have always sucked, but most of them do bore me even when they're competent. Just a total lack of imagination. Everything is done by the rulebook after Jugdral.

Just get Matsuno to write a Fire Emblem.

>>725129707
I think a problem with a lot of FE settings is how it's always too clearly divided between "good guy nations, bad guy nation, and nations that don't matter." Makes it feel less like a real world to get immersed in. Like obviously there needs to be a villain but maybe don't make it so that's the country's entire trait.

>>725130241
Sigurd's own countrymen betraying him and leading to his untimely demise definitely makes the world feel more more gray and factional. Anons like to make cuck jokes about him, but it just makes the world seem enlarged and real in a fucked up historical-feeling way.

>>725129707
TRS had a similar vibe for me.

>>725130469
Grandbell becoming the antagonist nation in the second half of the game was always one of my favorite aspects of FE4. You were literally fighting under their banner for the whole game so far so you know its not some super evil nation, it's just being slowly corrupted from within.

>>725130241
It's funny that they tried to write a grey conflict in Fates by showing that Nohr was struggling to produce food in its less agriculturally viable geography, giving them a legitimate reason to want some of Hoshido's fertile land, then they just decided to make Garon evil anyways.

three houses has done irreparable harm to the franchise.

>>725131167
It's the only bright spot in what was an otherwise creatively dead franchise. I don't like having to cope with my Fire Emblem games being start button simulators with a strategy game attached. I'd rather have the total package.

>>725129707
>I just hate the McDonald's playpen vibe THE games took on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr-aIARiea4

>>725129707
>Jugdral felt BIG and somehow serious. It felt like this actual continent embroiled in a generations-panning world war. No game has captured that vibe for me since,
FE4's maps being visible on the worldmap made the so called continent feel like a tiny ass country. Agustria is supposed to be similar to something like Elibe's Etruria yet it feels smaller than FE7's Dread Isle(Valor).
Without Thracia 776 there to actually give a sense of size for the countries the FE4 maps are using, Jugdral feels way smaller as a continent than any other FE game, tiny compared to something like Archanea.
Not arguing against the generation spanning war feeling though.

>>725131331
tourist alert

>>725131331
>Implying 3H is the total package
I think that one is missing the arguably more important strategy game part.

>>725131331
3H isn't a total package either because it's lacking in other areas.

>>725084859 (OP)
I didnt spend 200 hours on this game just so OP can pretend this game is disliked here

>>725129953
>get the hack that baits his fans with remaster after remaster
fft sucks.

>>725131554
retard

>>725129953
These are the last things Matsuno actually wrote. I don't play FFXIV, do people regard them as some the highlights of the story or no?

>>725084859 (OP)
>you're not playing he role playing game for the role playing

>>725131430
A kid born on the day I started playing this series has legally been allowed to drink for a year already.

>>725131685
>you're not playing the strategy game for the strategy

>>725131394
Tbf, maps in Kaga Emblem were way bigger in size, and each tile generally represented a bigger area relatively speaking. The scaling of the world map is probably way different from GBA emblem as a result.

Dogshit FE mutt thread

>>725131586
buy fft 3 more times cattle.

>>725131957
thanks I will

>>725131672
These were good but they were side content without a lot of room for dialogue or depth. He was also writing for a planned trilogy but Naoki Yoshida made the boneheaded decision to compress two expansions into one, cutting the third act and ending the second part with an "everyone lived happily ever after, forever" ending because every plot line in the universe had to be wrapped up so they could end the whole story. It is genuinely one of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen a project manager make.

>>725131685
>Xhe can't roleplay despite a massive cast of characters all unique in stats and personality, significant amounts of customization+player freedom and with full control over character interactions+endings
FE is too high iq roleplaying for you

>>725131753
If people were, Engage would've sold best in the series

>>725132114
I've been playing FE since before you were born

>>725132167
Why are we talking about sales all of the sudden?

>>725131394
I literally just watched a video on this yesterday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpiL3odpn5E
tl;dr: fantasy maps exist in service of the narrative and don't have to be "realistic," in fact all maps omit certain details and historical maps were full of errors not true to scale and reality

I guess I'm saying Jugdral's dinky little world map doesn't bother me.

>>725132291
Sales are a gauge of interest. If people aren't interested, they don't buy

>>725132291
The anti-engage schizo is obsessed with salesfagging, or more specifically to try to falseflag it as a flop despite it selling 4th best in the series.

>>725132532
Why do you care about the interest of people who likely watch football at bars and play on easy/casual?

>>725132619
Football is all about formation and tactics.

>>725129707
I miss when FE games were interested in showing the dirty side of war instead of having everything be an idealized fantasy world. Archanea had a slave market and Thracia has (playable) character who owns a literal whore house full of questionably aged dancers.

>>725133768
>kaga's fetishes go away after kaga leaves
whoa

>>725133768
>I miss when FE games were interested in showing the dirty side of war
They still do

>>725132619
>easy/casual
Uhhh, it's Normal/Casual ackshully. We have to trick them into playing Easy Mode because they're too proud to select the difficulty that's actually meant for them.

>>725133768
You don't want that. You want magic zombies! They only look like people though. They're actually just magic.

>>725133768
Cry about it fag

>>725134213
this is what really fucking stinks about modern FEs. they ALL make up some shitty zombie race so they can go "hehe you're not ACTUALLY killing people! it's okay!". nothing else makes it seem like some kiddy fantasy plot more than this shit.

>>725134213
Words can't express how much I fucking hate this trend IS started with Awakening. It's so soulless to go into a map and just fight faceless zombie soldiers half the time now. It takes away the stakes and the drama and the feeling of fighting a real war. I dislike monsters for similar reasons though they're a little bit less retarded.

>>725134456
This is one of the reasons why 3H works. You're killing bandits and enemy soldiers the whole game. Even the big monster enemies are abominations tied to the plot and are actually people forced to transform.

>>725133768
Blame Nintendo for this
Engage wouldn't have been such a kid's cartoon if the Nintendo suites haven't interfered with the original script.

>>725134640
His post describes a lot more games than just Engage.

>Generic brigand
:)
>Generic monster
:(

>>725134546
it starts 2 thirds in in Awakening
BR and CQ have you mostly fight the other country with 2 or 3 vallite maps (I count faceless as monster enemies, not as bad especially since they're relatively scarce)
3H has no zombies

I think only Rev and Engage are really guilty of it

>>725134908
The brigand is an actual person in the world and usually represents how the world is going to shit due to the larger events at play. The monster is just some magic nigga with 0 motivations or purpose or personality that only exists to be an enemy in a video game.

>>725134938
Yeah but Fates constantly has you "spare" the enemies who are human. Somehow.

>>725134938
>>725134938
>it starts 2 thirds in in Awakening
You fight Risen in Chapter 1, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>725134546
I just wish they'd be imaginative with the monsters if they're going to do monsters. SoV brought the actual bestiary back into modern FE. But then they went right back to more chaos zombies and mutant experiments after that.

Generic monster kino

>>725135202
You don't get it, generic cultist #293 really adds so much to the world building

>>725135320
SoV monsters are still not good enough for me. I want sentient monsters. I want them to have a faction and culture and actually do shit. Fucking orcs in generic fantasy stories have more to them than FE monsters do.

>>725135110
BR corrin never mentions any sparing
it is mentioned in 3 chapters cutscenes out of 27 in CQ
>>725135142
sorry, all I remembered from the plot was Gangrel/big empire/Grima

>>725135202
>>725135426
Generic brigand is still more interesting than mindless zombie no matter how much you idiots shitpost.

>>725135487
>it is mentioned in 3 chapters cutscenes out of 27 in CQ
The fact that they mention it multiple times is meant to imply that's what Corrin always does. The only time Corrin explicitly kills a lot of people is when they massacre the Kitsune lmao. All the other times it's Hans and Iago doing the killing.

>>725135202
>>725135426
this but unironically

>>725135456
There is something to the idea of ghouls and fiends that are just ghouls and fiends, that isn't quite encompassed by the usual fantasy races. I definitely wouldn't want to see FE become just more DnD/Tolkienslop.

It could be amazing but the visuals are so low effort I don't care to try it.
There are mobile phone games that unironically look better.

>>725135648
It doesn't have to rip off Tolkien/Western fantasy slop but FE has already had a cool bestiary with SS and Gaiden so I'd like to see them play a bigger role than just being generic monsters.

>>725135565
The average monster unironically does way more for the world building than any generic brigand.

what are you supposed to do with this guy? heart seal him into sorcerer(maybe after level 5 for seal magic)? the trobodaur line seems like a huge fucking meme. he's so hugely overshadowed by xander and camilla that i believe there's gotta be something in there right?

>>725136038
Just keep him in DK probably

>>725136038
He's underwhelming. Staple Nyx onto his back to give him more magic and speed.

>>725135972
>The average monster unironically does way more for the world building than any generic brigand.
Does SoV ever once explain where monsters come from?

>>725135972
the thracian bandits do more to establish the jugdral world and character building than any shitty monster or zombie race ever has or will. simple statement of fact.

>>725136169
Duma's degeneration corrupting the continent.

>>725136278
Okay...and why does Duma degenerating create monsters? No other dragon is Archanean lore does this. It makes sense in SS because Fomortiis is literally the Demon King but what's the explanation here?

>>725136365
>No other dragon is Archanean lore does this
What about Grima?

>>725136038
He's actually a stealth juggernaut like big bro. Nothing needed other than fixing his speed with the fattest pair up you can find, and tonics. Give him Horse Spirit and Calamity Gate from Ophelia's paralogue, the usual deal. If you want to overkill his bulk, pick up Sol from a Herowife.
He's a strong unit that most people are content to leave in the shadows of Xander, but if you let him play his role, he'll tear shit up just fine, better than Xanny in some maps. Dark Knight is simply a good class.

>>725136365
No other dragon in Archanaea has degenerated to the point of being a puddle of slime.

>>725134207
I hope she’s a total cutie in FW.

>>725136365
He's a powerful magic dragon. Hell, most of the monsters are just standart necromancy affair.

>>725136476
Grima is a homunculus, not a dragon.

>>725136587
Something only made up after the fact. In Awakening, he's just supposed to be another dark dragon like Medeus.

>>725136587
>Taking a retcon seriously
In the context of Awakening he's just a dragon.

The whole emblem ring thing is soo cringe enducing.
It really put me off from the very first trailer they were showed off.
That kind of "Hey guys remember Marth from smash bros!" Nostalgia baiting is really unappealing to me.
They're really fun gameplay wise once I got past that (and played on maddening so they weren't just a win button) but it took awhile for me to get used to it.

>>725136510
>>725136551
Seems pretty contrived to me. If Tiki degenerated into a puddle, would she suddenly start spurting gargoyles out of nowhere?

>>725134456
You kill plenty of actual humans in every FE with monsters and zombies. What kind of shitty cope is this?

>>725136917
The zombies are boring and lame and usually a sign of a weak story, that's the problem.

>>725136732
His story doesn't fit the timeline without the Echoes expansion. Awakening's version was a soft reboot that danced around the allusion to Medeus by hoping the player didn't think about it too hard. It wanted to be a far flung sequel but also wanted to be a remix of FE3. Thabes not only made more sense for the setting, it was actually compelling and retroactively made Grima a better villain.

>>725136906
>Get an explanation for the fantasical elements
>Still bitches about it
Dragons also invented magic in Archanea lore, do you ask bitch about that too? It's explained as little as the monsters.

>>725126915
>source: trust me bro
The Engage "translation" he worked on reeks of MTL that was edited by hand to seem more authentic

The idea that every element of LOOOOORE needs to be explained is a really modern sickness. It's okay to leave the monsters and the creatures that go bump in the night to the cosmic and unknowable. Has a mythic feeling to it. Fuck your lame ass tumblr worldbuilding.

>>725136906
It depends on how she degenerates. Duma became single-minded in his pursuit of war and wanted his people to constantly be fighting. His essence fucked up the continent and made it a hellscape. Mila wanted humans to live in bliss and abundance and this caused her part of the continent to flourish and see no conflict which caused the nobles to become hedonistic and make their own conflict out of boredom. When Mila disappeared her portion of the continent went to shit and fields went fallow.

I fucking love Engage

Make sure to s0ichamp when you see tons of 3HRT memberberries in Flavia's weaves.

>>725137092
>>725137340
Dumb niggers, I literally said I was fine with SS's take on monsters and that isn't autistically explained in depth either. Gaiden/Echoes just seems like a really poor implementation of it to me. It's extremely obvious they put zero thought into it and just wanted monsters in the game because they were trying to make Gaiden more like a typical RPG.

>>725084859 (OP)
story is fine for FE standards
MC's hair is a bit silly, but the story explanation is fine
gameplay is peak though
music is great too, but 3H and fates have a slight edge

At least the sacred stones monsters were different to normal human enemies.
They had unique animations and gimmicks like the Gordon's with stoneshot.
nu fe zombie enemies are just normal human enemies but with a monster skin and they dont have to write anything for them.
Instead of having the boss of the chapter be a unique human enemy with a portrait, some dialogue with certain player units, maybe a connection to the plot they can just have a scary zombie who goes RAWR.

>>725137340
You're not wrong. TRS strikes a good balance. Magic exists, monsters exist, dark magic exists, so spookies have their place. Thankfully they're only one part of the game and are tackled by Holmes the treasure hunter. They're not thrown around as enemies in the middle of Runan's territorial conflict outside of the enemy army having cultist summoners occasionally who are there to make sure the otherwise honorable generals in the opposing army don't disobey.

/vfeg/ and bad faith arguments

>>725084859 (OP)
>story sucks and the MC looks ugly, but all the maps are really fun to play
Eh, not really. Most of them are very middle of the road, there's like one standout map in the game, the one at the end of Solm where everything is on fire.
A lot of them are very "exterior interior", very few of them have anything particularly interesting about them, and a few of them try for the illusion of depth with inconsequential Fates map gimmicks, like the shops you destroy in that one map, or the torches in Yunaka's.
>the emblems really reward creativity for character building.
Again, disagree. The emblems mostly flatten unit identity. Anything actually unique about a unit's identity with very few exceptions comes from the ring, which will always be used, and will carry its role with it. Lyn will always be on someone, who will always act the same, regardless of if it's on Alcryst, Louis, Merrin, or Kagetsu. The only units that actually have any identity to themselves are Panette, who is Vantage Wrath on legs, Celine, the game's mixed attacker, Ivy, the flying 3 range assault canon, and Kagetsu, who is just a pre-baked juggernaut, and none of them really want to be defined by a ring, highlighting the issue.

>>725137728
TRS is literally just Kaga doing Gaiden again but fixing all the mistakes it made.

Sexnaka

Meanwhile the hacks at IS remake Gaiden, keep all the mistakes, and add new ones on top of them.

>>725138319
>Posts Kaga
>Who made TRS which is literally gaiden on PS1

I probably would've loved it if not for the ring system and somniel. Feels like a gacha game in structure.

>>725138417
>>725138068

>>725084859 (OP)
I like it gameplay wise too, the triangle was good way to make people not stack same units like in previous one sadly they are going back to three houses "gameplay" by the looks of it.

>Monsters get stronger as the evil dragon/demon's influence gets stronger, eventually outmatching the strongest warriors on the land
>Cause increasing amounts of atrocities, from massacring entire villages right before the player army arrives to causing an apocalyptic hellscape
>Sense of urgency to stop the even stronger demon who created them is established
Monsters are great to establish the danger of the enemy faction gaining power.

I hope they dont just copy 3h's mechanics 1:1 for the sequel. Surely realize that game had some serious problems with the mechanics and it wasnt popular because of the gameplay.

>>725138784
As long as it starts tribalistic flamewars, it will sell. The only variable is whether the fickle normalfags will bite the hook once more or ignore it for more socially popular current thing.

>gameplay
(lol go grind your tea minigames bozo

The idea that the weapon triangle is actually super important feels like such a secondary opinion.

>>725138972
The tea minigame is rather minor at the end of the day. The real devils are Professor Level and Motivation, they force you to play the game in the most unbearable way possible.

>>725139069
The weapon triangle is actually super important

fuck off fft tranny

>>725135817
Only one that does cool races as far as grid-based srpgs go is Shining Force and IS are too much of pussies to really deviate too hard into something like SF. Most you'll get are two people that can turn into beasts and two manaketes if you are lucky.

>>725139145
It's always been a minor mechanic when it exists at all.

I wouldn’t mind monastery grind if the maps were actually fun, but most of them are the same open field with a kill boss objective with said boss being very easy to run towards and kill.

>>725139304
No it hasn't. Not since FE5.

>>725139304
That hasn't been true since the GBA era. you know. when FE originally was released overseas?

>>725086202
disappointing muscle girl

>>725139304
Eeeh
It matters in FE6, because hitrates are low enough to begin with that a 10% swing actually matters.
But people hate reasonable chances to miss, so average hitrates have never been allowed to be low enough for triangle to matter again.

Holy fuck I hate the transparency on Windows 11 Paint.

>>725115678
>Having to think ruins strategy
Enjoy your watered down dating sim

>>725084859 (OP)
what's wrong with the story?
I enjoyed it, especially leylle standing up to her evil family, and the multiverse aspect to explain why all these fire emblem lords are in the game

>>725139363
It didn't matter at all in FE5. It was +5 accuracy.

/fegvermin/ would get filtered if they play a RTS on hard mode.

>>725139679
Kek

>>725139780
I meant after FE5

>>725139069
Weapon triangle is a ceremonial mechanic and signifier. WT true believers like it because it connotes "a better and simpler time," more than on the basis of any intrinsic merits. It objectively does almost nothing in most games and is unimaginative in the extreme, but the important thing is that it looks like it's doing something and it's "Fire Emblemy."

>>725139857
>Play RTS on hard
>AI cheats, sees in FoW
>Have infinite resources and build queues
>Also you get crippled because lol fuck you

>>725139934
Midwit take, WT is a significant factor in reliability, aka the defining mechanic of FE.

>play kaga game
>each chapter is long and big and expects you to grind

nuFE is closer to kaga's vision than you think

>>725140248
The games with stat caps of 20, busted late game prepromotes, and holy weapons that give you 20 in stats aren't designed to require grinding. Some of them let you grind but it's never required.

>>725139774
It's a dumb fucking story with a world that makes no sense even for this dumb fucking series. Character motivations, when they exist, are silly to the point that Barney might be more stimulating than this shit. Even if you enjoy "an ancient evil awakens" storylines, it's so straightforward and the characters are such caricatures that it might as well not be there. Chrono Cross has more charming characters than this shit and 90% of the characters in CC are paper thin.

>>725140004
I notice there's a guy in here who calls any comment that touches to close to home "midwit." Weapon triangle is lame, it's a nothing mechanic that oversimplifies mechanical relationships, that casuals adore because it makes FE seem simpler and more "reducible" to generalizations.
The fact that a javelin and a hand axe are meta defining in the games where it's supposedly super duper important says a lot. It only appears in so many games because it's easy to add on to a game's real gameplay as an afterthought.

/v/ will say sacred stones requires grinding because the tower exists, they have no self control

>>725140574
Then why do the games without it always feel even more lacking if its such a nothing mechanic?

>>725140810
Blame your idiot brain I guess. I've never missed it even slightly, not even on Radiant Dawn Hard mode. Seems to be a particular affliction with GBAfags ironically enough, even though WT was at its strongest in the 3DS era and DS era secondarily.

>>725140919
It's at its strongest in FE6, but only because it completely fucks up the balance, renders many units unusable, and feels like it wasn't tested for.

>>725140919
We found the one person on the planet that actually likes RD Hard Mode.

>>725141040
It's actually genuinely insane in Fates. That's the closest it ever came to mattering. And even there it's not that big a deal, or rather, it becomes mostly easy to ignore once a unit goes godmode. Doesn't help that unbreakable dual weapons exist in that game.

>>725141113
There's nothing wrong with RD Hard mode other than the hidden attack ranges. They were smoking crack for that part.

>>725140919
>RD hard mode
>the mode that removes enemy step distance
Found the masochist

>>725141179
I guess in the chapters with breaker skill enemies it goes nuts.

Could someone with experience in the series tell me the best way to enjoy Fire Emblem 3 Houses for someone who has never played anything in the series? What difficulty level should I play on? Should I use permanent death? Should I reload the maps when I realize I've screwed up, or should I persevere until the end? Etc.

>>725141449
Play hard, normal is made for actual babies, maddening is poorly designed and not built for a first playthrough.

>>725141449
Normal if you want to learn, hard if you have good game sense and don't mind games that push back a little, permadeath, and the game gives you a set amount of rewinds per map. Three Houses is designed around that rewind so permadeath is kind of a vestigial hard mode thing. Plenty of characters you meet are going to die on your first playthrough without you fucking up on a map just by the nature of the game's recruitment system.

>>725141179
Fate’s WT is a nerfed version of 11 and 12’s on the account of enemy units having lower weapon ranks.

>>725141784
?
Fates enemies have maxed weapon ranks on Lunatic in all routes

>>725141449
iron man

>>725141449
>What difficulty level should I play on?
Hard. It will still be too easy, but it has less unfun cancer than Maddening.
>Should I use permanent death?
Absolutely, the game gives you a op clutch anyways with rewinds. Hell, try to avoid using the rewinds so that there's some semblance of difficulty.
>Should I reload the maps when I realize I've screwed up, or should I persevere until the end?
See above. In other games, I'd recommend persevering though.
>Etc.
Overall, I actually don't recommend 3H at all. Pick just about any other FE game and you'll have a better time imo.

>>725093980
Nino appreciation is good appreciation

>>725141965
Truth.

>>725141449
Hard mode
Whichever house you pick doesn't really matter, just use the units from that house and work on supports and Byleth's weapon ranks to grab students from other houses that seem interesting
Perma death is fine, the game gives you limited rewinds per map making it difficult to fully lose a unit
As mentioned above you get rewinds in each map so you don't need to reload unless you screw up so hard you run out of rewinds, experience allocation isn't tight so don't worry about feeling like a unit is being fed too much
Students are easier to promote than Byleth because they get an entire section dedicated to raising their weapon ranks while Byleth is stuck using time slots to raise it, but don't worry too much about his class he'll be fine focusing on swords

>>725142046
Glad we can agree!
She deserves the world, and so much more!

>>725141760
I should clarify, the game doesn't want you to soldier through permadeath. It wants you to rewind when your units die. Older games are designed for you to let units die since they're a lot more disposable and you get high level prepromotes in the late game anyway. 3H is more growth and progression based so they give you some mulligans through rewinds to make the game less frustrating.

>>725141449
Hard
Normal is too easy even if you don't understand mechanics/series staples. Maddening is too hard, even if you do. Honestly Hard is still a bit too easy, but for a series newbie, it will at least ask you learn the mechanics. Normal is so absurdly easy you will probably get bored.
Play with permadeath on, and use rewinds as intended. Resetting maps if you run out and lose someone is reasonable, 3 houses is not designed with replacing high investment units later on in mind. Turning permadeath off means a lot of challenge evaporates, because a large part of challenge is approaching situations in a way that keeps everyone alive. Strategic deaths are VERY powerful, especially against bosses, and getting to make those freely makes the game much easier than the basic idea sounds.

>>725142168
>and so much more!
Such as?

>>725142275
Get pregnant

>>725142121
I'm horny for frogs now

>>725142275

>>725142415
idk, give her the boots you get in the same chapter.

>>725141040
It's only 10 hit/avo in FE6 though. It's the weapons, particularly axes, themselves that have shitty accuracy

>>725142424
Yes.

>>725142531

>>725123663
>Bro I don't care. post Anna

>>725125825
>FUCK OFF

>>725131331
>It's the only bright spot in what was an otherwise creatively dead franchise. I don't like having to cope with my Fire Emblem games being start button simulators with a strategy game attached. >I'd rather have the total package.

>>725131686
>A kid born on the day I started playing this series has legally been allowed to drink for a year already.

>>725132167
>If people were, Engage would've sold best in the series

>>725139069
In engage it is hands down one of the most important things to understand because of the break mechanic. Also break defense existing.

I hope fortune's weaves has more rpg and dating sim elements haha

>>725142235
Very much this.
Older games (that is, up to Shadow Dragon & New Mystery) are designed with the idea that losing units is expected, so the amount you can invest into units is lower, and there are ample replacements who are almost as good at every stage of the game. Often the replacements are a bit worse, but this is the "penalty" for losing a unit. Their replacement will be a bit weaker. Occasional exceptions abound, and plenty of the games have standout additions later in the game anyways, but broadly speaking. Your first axe man is usually the best. If he dies, the second axe man is worse. If he dies, the third one is even worse. But even the third axe man is still basically functional as a unit when you end up needing him, and if you never trained Axe Man 1, Axe Man 3 is still probably in a much better place to start using him than Axe Man 1 is.
The more modern games, and especially 3 Houses are designed with a lot more unit investment in mind, and there is really no way to replace a high investment unit later on, and the game very much expects you to have developed units through their endgame. Engage somewhat breaks this trend, but that's because your later replacement units are just better than your old units outright.

>>725139857
??
RTS is the hardest genre in video games of course we would

>starting with 3HRT
yuck

>>725142724
>because of the break mechanic
Until Maddening basically removed it lmao

>>725141853
Fates enemies are not Archanaea enemies, weapon ranks are lower across the board with very few classes attaining high weapon ranks. For example brigands have a max weapon rank of A while their Fates counterpart, fighters, have a max weapon rank of B. This is especially apparent in advanced classes.

>>725139069
>the series didn't start with the WT therefore it's not an important and staple part of the series!
So are Supports not a staple of the series either?

>>725142937
retard

>>725142496
>autistic big titted sexy new teacher comes in, fucks you, gets pregnant and fixes all your problems in life
I understand her appeal

>>725142669
Perhaps I judged AI too harshly.

>>725143000
You will never reproduce

>>725143263
Post wife and kids seethie

>>725142724
This is what I was talking about when I said secondary opinion. Maeda clearly overvalues the feature and thinks it's something that should be designed for when it's vestigial at best. The break system sucked ass.

>>725143671
We need more white panties

>>725142949
What even is this argument? You can't 1:1 compare mechanical subtleties like this in *any* game. For example, Awakening doesn't have an S rank at all, but you'd be hard pressed to argue weapon ranks aren't more felt in that game than in FE8, which does have S rank weapons.
Fates could have called its highest weapon rank "N" for "narwhal" and it's ultimately wouldn't tell you how weapon triangle "feels" in the game versus in others.

>>725143505
Maeda had nothing to do with Engage, my guy.

>>725143671
Miss Nino!

>>725084859 (OP)
Sounds like Conquest 2.0, except it doesn't even have attractive characters to salvage it.

>>725085556
They hate engage because the average 4chan fire emblem posters jerk off to patched gba roms all day

>>725131685
> >you're not playing he role playing game for the role playing

>>725132257
>I've been playing FE since before you were born

>>725132532
>Sales are a gauge of interest. If people aren't interested, they don't buy

>>725133073
>Football is all about formation and tactics.

>>725133768
>I miss when FE games were interested in showing the dirty side of war instead of having everything be an idealized fantasy world. Archanea had a slave market and Thracia has (playable) character who owns a literal whore house full of questionably aged dancers.

>>725143902
So sweet and mature!

Engage's reclassing system is a million times better than the 3DS trash system because it doesn't encourage you to grind in shitty classes for gay skills.

>>725143838
>What even is this argument?
It’s about the weapon triangle in case you’ve forgotten. Weapon ranks indirectly impact the potency of the WT in both the DS and 3DS games, that was not the case in FE8, so your example does not hold up. If you didn’t know this detail of the WT you can just admit it instead of trying to save face.

>>725144428
Right, it only encourages you to put every physical unit in 1 of 2 classes and every magical unit in 1 of 1 classes instead.

I like Skill Emblem and I like collecting skills.

>>725144541
And ONLY after you've promoted, or you've bricked a unit for the mid game.

>>725144541
think you're mixing up three houses with a game that encourages weapon and class variety.

>>725144541
Nah, there are clear use cases for every class in the game except Royal Knight and High Priest.

>>725144602
Fates skills are low impact enough on their own that collecting them is fun. People act like you can just freely grab shit like galeforce whenever you want which is incredibly dishonest.

>>725112547
Just promote first bro, its not hard. you don't even get second seals before they hit level 10.

>>725144474
>If you didn’t know this detail of the WT
It's why I specifically said the WT in Fates is insane, dummy.
WT effects AND weapon rank bonuses are stronger in Fates than in DSFE. You could only argue WT is more strongly felt in DSFE on the basis of a comparison between nonpromoted enemies, but this is dumb because you fight nonpromoted enemies for a small portion of the game.
Have you even looked at a comparison between the games or did you just assume "bigger letter mean stronger"? DSFE outright doesn't award additional S rank weapon bonuses. Does it even have an S rank?
Wtf are you even talking about actually?

>>725084859 (OP)
> Tries expanding the fanbase with a paint by numbers plot and blander than toast cast

>>725144821
Every physical class is worse than Warrior/Wyvern, and every magic class other Mage Knight is some form of gigacope. Griffins are the only worthwhile staffbots I guess.
Engage really dropped the ball on classes. Everything just sucks so hard.

>>725145349
I like Engage but this is a trvke. Repeat playthroughs just do not have the same magic as they do in Fates.

>>725144428
It's better because there's no skill collecting and the skills are directly tied to the classes to add to their uniqueness. But it's also worse because it's too open when Fates had just the right amount of openness. So it evens out.

>>725145453
Genuninely what is wrong with skill collecting as it was done in Fates?

>>725084859 (OP)
I'm sorry, but if the art and character design is shit, the story is shit AND the game was heavily censored by American localizers I don't care about the gameplay at that point. I'm not buying this garbage.

>>725145349
Sage is objectively better for damage than Mage Knight in all cases where both can double, which is a lot of cases because of how easy it is to boost speed in Engage.
>muh wyvern
(lol. Enjoy your B rank weapons.

>Nino will always have twins when she gets pregnant
Making a football team with Nino!!

>>725145660
I don't like Wyverns, but at least it's best in class for "flying physical fag." Your Sage argument here is classic gigacope.

>>725144541
We're not talking about 3H, anon.

>>725145660
Gigacope. MK wins on movement and bonded shield abusability.

>>725145527
I just don't like it, it's not fun to me. You need to plan things outside of the game if you wanna do a specific build and that should never be the case in any game. And like I said, when skills are locked to classes, it helps keep that class unique instead of just grabbing the skill and then hopping back to whatever class is actually good. The class skills should be PART of the reason you're IN that class in the first place.

A daring synthesis

>>725145184
It's wild they thought Engage was a design for new players. New players want something unique that stands on its own with confidence. They want to feel some kind of ownership over an experience. A charcuterie board of unexplained characters from games they've never played is the opposite of what new players want. The iconography does nothing for them outside of Smash characters, and even then they want to see their Smash character have his own adventure.

>>725145678
Lots of kids!

>>725145893

>>725145757
Nah, griffin is better because a single (higher rank) weapon is more logical with Power skills, and staff utility is huge, especially with Canter in play.

>>725145802
>You need to plan things outside of the game if you wanna do a specific build
It's a strategy game, bro. Making a long-term plan and getting a payoff is fun. A lot of arguments against it I read are just
>It's bad because you don't have to actually use the class
But that's not a real criticism in my opinion. You're not explaining what about that harms the gameplay experience. Especially considering nobody is forcing you to reclass if you don't want to.

>>725145527
As someone who loves fates, there are skills that are so fucking good they become no brainers. Getting these skills are also pretty important for making a unit great. For example, elbow room. It's +3 damage in 90% of situations, or the faire skills being able to be poached off of the classes that specialize in those weapons. If you enjoy the idea of planning out what skills to get through reclassing, A+ and S supports, choosing what skills to pass down so a child unit doesn't have to dip into a bad class for them to get it, it's a really fun system, but if you're the type of player who likes your myrmidon being defined by being a myrmidon it can be overbearing.

>>725134213
>You don't want that. You want magic zombies! They only look like people though. They're actually just magic.

>>725134639
>This is one of the reasons why 3H works. You're killing bandits and enemy soldiers the whole game. Even the big monster enemies are abominations tied to the plot and are actually people forced to transform.
>>725134640
>Blame Nintendo for this
>Engage wouldn't have been such a kid's cartoon if the Nintendo suites haven't interfered with the original script.

>>725135070
>The brigand is an actual person in the world and usually represents how the world is going to shit due to the larger events at play. The monster is just some magic nigga with 0 motivations or purpose or personality that only exists to be an enemy in a video game.

>>725135624
>this but unironically

>>725145940
Having lots of kids with Nino sounds wondeful!~

>>725145884
For me it's Shamir and Decidueye

>>725146072
>there are skills that are so fucking good they become no brainers
Even so, not everyone can easily become a cavalier to get some of those no-brainer skills. I think it adds more character identity, not less like some people say.
>but if you're the type of player who likes your myrmidon being defined by being a myrmidon it can be overbearing
The game was balanced around you being able to keep a myrmidon a myrmidon and still have no issues beating the game.

>>725146209
Anon with Miss Nino...

>>725145349
>Every physical class is worse than Warrior/Wyvern, and every magic class other Mage Knight is some form of gigacope. Griffins are the only worthwhile staffbots I guess.
>Engage really dropped the ball on classes. Everything just sucks so hard.
>>725145410
>I like Engage but this is a trvke. Repeat playthroughs just do not have the same magic as they do in Fates
>>725145184
> > Tries expanding the fanbase with a paint by numbers plot and blander than toast cast
>>725144541
>Right, it only encourages you to put every physical unit in 1 of 2 classes and every magical unit in 1 of 1 classes instead.
>>725143879
>Maeda had nothing to do with Engage, my guy.

>>725145349
>MUH WHYVERNS
you are at the peak of mount stupid, please stop posting.

>>725146061
>It's a strategy game, bro. Making a long-term plan and getting a payoff is fun
Yes, WITHIN the game. Not looking online what all the skills are and planning each unit's path first. If they were going to make the class system focus on collecting skills, then show that information to the player so they can properly plan ahead. This is also what I hate about Andaron Saga having skills behind supports, you literally can't plan for it without already knowing or looking it up online.
>just don't use it bro
Always a midwit argument. I will criticize the mechanic for the flaws I perceive with it.

Here's the issue with Fates' class system in a nutshell:
>Sacred Stones Branched Promotion:
>Do I want to go Valkyrie for the extra movement or Bishop for the Slayer skill?
>Fates:
>Lemme just grab Slayer and then hop back to the class with more Mov, no meaningful decision to make I am afraid of making permanent choices ;)

>>725146072
I'd have a problem with this if there were no limitations and any unit could be any class at any time. Units in Conquest have very strong identities based on what they can reasonably do. Most units can't get Elbow Room. Few units can become Malig Knights. So few units can get good rallies that Haitaka and Rallyman are viable capture units. The best part about Conquest is its limitations.

>>725145787
>1 point of movement negated by the extra range of tomes under Thyrsus
>muh bonded shield
You should be using a Qi-Adept bonded shield in the first place, instead of pigeonholing yourself into one specific class type.

>>725146002
Weapon rank wank has to be the most perplexing thing that came out of Engage discussion. Griffin stats are pure ass for combat, who cares that it can use, what, the brave axe? A silver greataxe?? Like I said, it's gigacope all the way down.
You generally want to be using forged C-tier weapons in Engage, steels, killers, the Heroes weapons. Everybody can access the C tier, so it's a moot point. It isn't worth it to go into a shitty class line like Paladin to bonk enemies with A-tier fodder weapons that you're probably not even forging because they're too situational and expensive.
Griffin is best in class for staffing, but the problem is it's outclassed as pure muscle and as flying muscle.
This happens a lot in Engage, in fact. Yes, I could run a Sage - the worst of both Griffin and Mage Knight. Or I could run a Griffin or a Mage Knight and partition the roles out instead. Emblems encourage this. I'm not putting an emblem on a mediocre combat unit, after all.

the schizo nigga really fell off with his crappy AI images lol

Basedman won.
Schizo lost.

>>725146250
Just giving her love and kids...

>>725143505
>This is what I was talking about when I said secondary opinion. Maeda clearly overvalues the feature and thinks it's something that should be designed for when it's vestigial at best. The break system sucked ass.
>>725142968
> >the series didn't start with the WT therefore it's not an important and staple part of the series!
>So are Supports not a staple of the series either?
>>725142937
> >because of the break mechanic
>Until Maddening basically removed it lmao
>>725140810
>Then why do the games without it always feel even more lacking if its such a nothing mechanic?
>>725140543
>It's a dumb fucking story with a world that makes no sense even for this dumb fucking series. Character motivations, when they exist, are silly to the point that Barney might be more stimulating than this shit. Even if you enjoy "an ancient evil awakens" storylines, it's so straightforward and the characters are such caricatures that it might as well not be there. Chrono Cross has more charming characters than this shit and 90% of the characters in CC are paper thin.

>>725146353
>If they were going to make the class system focus on collecting skills, then show that information to the player so they can properly plan ahead
I don't really know what to say to this other than that the information exists online, so I don't know why you're upset about a problem you don't actually face. Is it on behalf of the twelve people with a 3DS, Fates, and no internet access?
>Always a midwit argument
It's literally something you do not need to do. These massive skill-stacks people post on their juggernauts are way overkill for what the game throws at you. It would be an issue if the game expected it of you.
>Lemme just grab Slayer
Except in this case it's golembane, a skill that lets you deal slightly more damage to the like 30 total enemies in the game it actually works against. There's no slayer equivalent in Fates.

>>725146336
Again, name a better physical flying class. It's literally impossible, retard. I didn't make the game this way, blame IS.

Annette and Nino
>>725141449
Personally, I play games for the experience, so I played the Blue Lions route on Normal. I do agree that the game can be too easy and playing on Hard would be better. As far as permanent death goes, if you enjoy the risk and are willing to use the rewind mechanic, then permadeath would be best for you. I don't like the thought of losing characters, so I had it off and paid it no mind. One particular unit stuck in my mind.

>>725146783
Get. Pregnant. (I had to go through the shitty captcha just to post this FACT)

>>725146578
It’s now become more sad if anything.

>>725146353
>then show that information to the player so they can properly plan ahead
Units of a certain class come with the skills or get them early through normal use. Once you get your first skill or recruit a unit at level 10 you know what that class offers. And if it's your first playthrough you're blindly moving around based on what you like and getting rewarded for it. That's good. Using a second seal on an umpromoted unit gives you a rapid fire of a couple of new skills. It doesn't brick the unit by throwing them to level 1 for no gain other than a different class.

>>725146783
>>725147019
Ephraim's wife

>>725147231
Festive time is almost here... Nino will spread the cheer!

>>725084859 (OP)
most the cast of engage are over designed and look like vtubers or completely forgettable with one not characters and supports are garbage even by the low standards of fire emblem and you have to go through them for optimization and if I feel like I need to skip chunks of a game even if its story or supports it just makes me feel like I am wasting my time when I could be playing better games.

>>725146569
Holy shit, you're so wrong about everything, it's amazing.
>griffin best in class for staffing
It has C rank and can't even use Warp, Rescue or Fracture.
>forged C-tier weapons
Most expensive tier due to steel ingot costs. In a regular play, you aren't bringing most C-tier weapons over +3, and a +1 A-tier weapon absolutely demolishes that for 1 silver.
>shitty class line like Paladin
Paladin has very balanced bases and some of the highest growths in the game, A+ weapon access, and the cavalry class type has some of the best emblem bonuses in the game.

>>725146681
why does it have to be flying and why does it have to be "better"? your argument is everything outside warrior and wyvern are irrelevant.
does sniper and wolf knight not have important situational utility?
are paladins not great all around physical units that have access to +1 mov from roy and eirika's improved engage attack?
futher, wyvern is a mid tier class. it loses to griffon in every area that matters. the fact you're acting like it's in the same universe as warrior tells me you have no idea what you're talking about.

I never played a Fire Emblem game, but Schizo-sama, please wreck Gacha threads instead. Fire Emblem is single player. These people are more likely real gamers, not paid shills. I know you think they should stay in the general, but these people are not the real enemy.

>>725136991
>The zombies are boring and lame and usually a sign of a weak story, that's the problem.
>>725138001
>>story sucks and the MC looks ugly, but all the maps are really fun to play
>Eh, not really. Most of them are very middle of the road, there's like one standout map in the game, the one at the end of Solm where everything is on fire.
>A lot of them are very "exterior interior", very few of them have anything particularly interesting about them, and a few of them try for the illusion of depth with inconsequential Fates map gimmicks, like the shops you destroy in that one map, or the torches in Yunaka's.
>>the emblems really reward creativity for character building.
>Again, disagree. The emblems mostly flatten unit identity. Anything actually unique about a unit's identity with very few exceptions comes from the ring, which will always be used, and will carry its role with it. Lyn will always be on someone, who will always act the same, regardless of if it's on Alcryst, Louis, Merrin, or Kagetsu. The only units that actually have any identity to themselves are Panette, who is Vantage Wrath on legs, Celine, the game's mixed attacker, Ivy, the flying 3 range assault canon, and Kagetsu, who is just a pre-baked juggernaut, and none of them really want to be defined by a ring, highlighting the issue.
>>725146587
>Basedman won.
>Schizo lost.
>>725146578
>the schizo nigga really fell off with his crappy AI images lol
>>725146681
>Again, name a better physical flying class. It's literally impossible, retard. I didn't make the game this way, blame IS.

>>725147804
He's a gachafag. Actual games are his enemy.

>>725147019
Engage's artstyle somehow manages to be even uglier than 3H's.

>>725147804
FE fans here would be really bad paid shills. We literally hate everything.

>>725146890
>It’s now become more sad if anything.
>>725147550
>most the cast of engage are over designed and look like vtubers or completely forgettable with one not characters and supports are garbage even by the low standards of fire emblem and you have to go through them for optimization and if I feel like I need to skip chunks of a game even if its story or supports it just makes me feel like I am wasting my time when I could be playing better games.
>>725147804
>I never played a Fire Emblem game, but Schizo-sama, please wreck Gacha threads instead. Fire Emblem is single player. These people are more likely real gamers, not paid shills. I know you think they should stay in the general, but these people are not the real enemy.
>>725147901
>He's a gachafag. Actual games are his enemy.
>>725147910
>Engage's artstyle somehow manages to be even uglier than 3H's.

>>725147996
Forgot your AI image bro

>>725147623
Again, this is what bothers me about Engage discussion. The game is kinda frankly solved and it's too obvious what classes and builds units should go into, so people started making up fake distinctions to differentiate the samefag characters. People are talking about some hypothetical game that isn't Engage, and not actually Engage. None of this shit MATTERS, anon!

Paladin bases, growths? Who gives a frick. It's shit for combat compared to Warrior, and it can't fly, and emblems/forges/skills determine 95% of your damage. There is no good, solid reason to pick a Paladin over a Warrior or a Wyvern 99 out of 100 times. They cover all its realistic use cases collectively, and it doesn't manage to find anything substantial by splitting the difference down the middle.

Micc!Hortensia does all lategame warping and high-tier unless you're doing some LTCfaggotry, or massively coping. You don't *need* staff bots that can use A staves other than her.

Everyone is pigeonholed into these hyper-optimal roles and you feel like an idiot doing anything outside of that, because unlike Fates where you sometimes had to use an Oni or a Dark Knight or a Ninja because you didn't have a Malig, you never HAVE to use anything except a Warrior in Engage.

>engage
>solved
lulno

>>725148340
Bonded Shield and Shotacaiah devastate all maps

Warrior is overrated, retards act like it’s 3H Wyvern levels of broken where everyone needs to be one.

>>725148189
>Again, this is what bothers me about Engage discussion. The game is kinda frankly solved and it's too obvious what classes and builds units should go into, so people started making up fake distinctions to differentiate the samefag characters. People are talking about some hypothetical game that isn't Engage, and not actually Engage. None of this shit MATTERS, anon!
>Paladin bases, growths? Who gives a frick. It's shit for combat compared to Warrior, and it can't fly, and emblems/forges/skills determine 95% of your damage. There is no good, solid reason to pick a Paladin over a Warrior or a Wyvern 99 out of 100 times. They cover all its realistic use cases collectively, and it doesn't manage to find anything substantial by splitting the difference down the middle.
>Micc!Hortensia does all lategame warping and high-tier unless you're doing some LTCfaggotry, or massively coping. You don't *need* staff bots that can use A staves other than her.
>Everyone is pigeonholed into these hyper-optimal roles and you feel like an idiot doing anything outside of that, because unlike Fates where you sometimes had to use an Oni or a Dark Knight or a Ninja because you didn't have a Malig, you never HAVE to use anything except a Warrior in Engage.
>>725148038
>Forgot your AI image bro

>>725148551
What's better?

>>725147525
I don't usually like celebrating Christmas early, but certain exceptions can be made.

>>725147669
I don't even use Wyverns and have said they're overrated for a while but you have to fail the did-you-eat-breakfast meme to not see how it's the best physical flying class, with no real competition. Griffin is a meme.

>>725148743
Reminder that these two are more relevant to FE6 than Lynd is

>>725148548
>>725148625

>>725148743

>>725148678
If it means seeing whoever you love being in such loving attire, then I think it is ok!

okay I actually laughed at that

Will we ever get a character sexier than Veyle?

>>725147669
Paladins were gutted hard in engage and feel like shit. It feels like an almost entirely pointless and invalidated class in this game.

>>725147804
And Schizo-sama should just focus on one Gacha thread. That way paid shills will think other gacha shills are trying to sabotage them. This will make them vandalize each other's threads. win-win.

>>725148189
translation
>I played the game my way and can't wrap my head around people not playing the way I do

>>725149329
>make your own fun :)
I tried memeing a Bow Knight Framme to spice things up and it fucking blows lol. You don't get more off meta than that. The game is what it is.

I didn't even use a Warrior on my last Maddening playthrough lmao. Why does this guy think they're so overpowered?

>>725149126
True that!

>>725148189
Just mod it lol
https://gamebanana.com/mods/600926

>>725149507
You can use whatever you want and beat the game easily. It's not very hard.

>>725149507
Just name something better, anon. Should be easy.

>>725149507
because he read they're good lurking a thread and his low functioning autism brain latched onto it.

>>725149556
Wolf Knigger.

>>725149267

>>725149509
Aww, how sweet!

>>725149545
t. played post launch with updates and dlc
it is most certainly not easy on maddening

>Warrior is the best physical class in Engage and there doesn't appear to be much good reason to not to use a bunch of Warriors other than personal taste
>Errm, I think certain other classes give it a run for its money!
>What classes?
>ur just a poopoo head lol

>>725149689
Not him but wolf knights are weak as shit. Struggle to get them to kill anything that isn't a magic class.
>>725149729
I beat the game blind on maddening before the well existed without DLC. It's not hard.

>>725149689
terrible damage, can't kill shit

>>725149767
>wolf knights are weak as shit
And yet the guy complaining about Engage's classes is also the one saying there's a million ways to raise your strength and everyone is the same anyway. Funny how you can just shift your stance to suit your reply.

>>725149507
Because the argument was between Fates skill collection progression and the shit Engage offers in repeat playthroughs. Fates is more fun to play the first time but it also has legs. You can play through it a dozen times and never run out of things to try. For Engage once you learn about Backup there isn't much more to mess around with. Reclassing isn't fun, unit balance is completely fucked, and emblem rings invalidate everything else.

>>725149737
>to not to use a bunch of Warriors
nobody is actually doing this. warrior is for your boss killer and reliable axe user. how many out of 12 deployment slots do you have in warrior?

>>725149737
That level of strawman is enough to feel in place in as an I AM SILLY comic. Do you even read the posts you reply to?

>>725149767
>It's not hard.
So is there any FE game to you that is hard? Because Engage is one of the hardest

>>725149878
The point is you ONLY use a Warrior for that role. Boss killing is like half of the game, and one class is clearly head and shoulders above all others for it. And I guess Berserker is good at it too, but it fails on all other accounts compared to Warrior.
>>725149918
So don't strawman me first, fag

>>725149186
Paladin is actually pretty good in Engage, it's just in an unfortunate spot where Griffin is flying Paladin with C staves too. The trade-off is better HP/STR/DEF growth and access to some good Emblem bonuses.

>>725150029
New Mystery and Conquest are both considerably harder

>>725150083
that's not a "bunch" of warriors you disingenuous faggot.

>>725084859 (OP)
Engage let me marry Hebe Anner! That alone makes it the best in the series, in my opinion.

>>725149509
God, I wish Annette was real and in a sexual relationship with me.

the thread hit bump limit so all i will say is that

>>725149856
Everybody and everything is the same when you control for differences. Fucking obviously I'm not saying a level 1 Framme is as strong as an endgame Kagetsu. I'm saying both Framme and Kagetsu are built in the same way, and do the same shit at endgame. And that's one of the more pronounced and real differences in Engage. Try to find what makes Kagetsu and Merrin really different.

>>725150241
Go on

>>725149175
>okay I actually laughed at that
>>725149226
>And Schizo-sama should just focus on one Gacha thread. That way paid shills will think other gacha shills are trying to sabotage them. This will make them vandalize each other's threads. win-win.
>>725149737
> >Warrior is the best physical class in Engage and there doesn't appear to be much good reason to not to use a bunch of Warriors other than personal taste
> >Errm, I think certain other classes give it a run for its money!
> >What classes?
> >ur just a poopoo head lol
>>725149864
>Because the argument was between Fates skill collection progression and the shit Engage offers in repeat playthroughs. Fates is more fun to play the first time but it also has legs. You can play through it a dozen times and never run out of things to try. For Engage once you learn about Backup there isn't much more to mess around with. Reclassing isn't fun, unit balance is completely fucked, and emblem rings invalidate everything else.

>>725149864
Fates is an unfun autist game where you have to open a spreadsheet to plan things out before even opening your 3DS.
>y-you're just a casual
I can just open up Thracia and get right into it and that game is still challenging. Being an easily accessible game without build autism has always been a big appeal of FE and you can do it without sacrificing difficulty. Nu-FE has completely forgotten and abandoned this though.

>>725150363
>have to

>>725150253
>Everybody and everything is the same when you control for differences. Fucking obviously I'm not saying a level 1 Framme is as strong as an endgame Kagetsu. I'm saying both Framme and Kagetsu are built in the same way, and do the same shit at endgame. And that's one of the more pronounced and real differences in Engage. Try to find what makes Kagetsu and Merrin really different.
>>725149767
>>725149545

>>725150363
Why would you have to open up a spreadsheet to play Fates? Stop being retarded, it isn't that punishing.

>Sharcia tranny seething
shush go grind your throne bosses and abuse steal you filth

>>725150363
>thracia doesn't have build autism
fundamentally what's the difference between scroll abusing and class hopping