Thread 2123097

Recursion edition

>>2123097 (OP)
HoI IV mods are their own genre. It is amazing how skilled and depthful modders are for this game. There is more talent and creativeness in HoI IV modding than the rest of all RTS games combined.

Reposting from previous thread, picrel is continuation of the article:
I can see Lafayette in a Ratnik suit moving like he's Hank from Madness Combat 11, ripping through divisions of conscripts and contract soldiers with his bare hands, defeat multiple Spetsnaz joint task forces all set to kill him and 5v1 in CQC a team of "maroon berets" and limp away with all of them dead, all the while running on adrenaline, multiple stimulant-type drugs and sheer fucking RAGE. Now that I think about it, an MC fan series about him would be kino.

TFR sux

Same with Radelsfuhrer, except remove the suit and add a lot of speed. And by "speed" I mean both the drug and the concept of moving at Mach FUCK.

>>2123097 (OP)
>>2123112
>>2123119
>>2123120
>>2123121
If anyone wants some more, just ask and I'll provide.

>>2123097 (OP)
Me when reading and realising it's another fanslop
>>2123124
No one wants it retard. Next time post a real article

>>2123112
Why would a French guy use Russian power armor? Doesn't the EU have their own?

>>2123126
Damn, ok. Guess that's what I get for posting redditslop.
Want some FMTW toozers instead?
>>2123130
Yes, but "Ratnik" sounds harder than "Powered Exo". Let's just say he stole it off a corpse when his own broke.

>>2123147
Bro it's fanslop that I posted, not actual news.

>>2123097 (OP)
>>2123124
>Posting fake news
>Not posting the REAL NEWS about /ourguy/ Gunther unironically shilling for TFR
Anon is part of the fake news industrial complex!

>>2123195
Get him a mic and a stage and he'll shill for us until he gets dragged off of it.

>>2123223
Rather give him a mic to explain how will his Balkanized Russia idea work.

>>2123226
He's going to be yapping about it 'till he gets a bullet between his eyes from FSB for spreading inflammatory thoughts.

Genuine question. Out of any content in TFR which do you personally want to have a total rework?

Pick only one.

>>2123329
Probably NSM but honestly just finish them and I'm happy. No one really needs a big rework just flesh things out, finish things and fix bugs. I'm just vary of the R-word because of how badly TNO handled theirs so there would have to be a real good reason for it.

I'm surprised that no one made a mod based on shattered union nor tom Clancy end war.

>>2123339
Or World in Conflict.

>>2123339
>>2123341
>Shattered Union
Because literally no one except you and me played it. Underrated as hell. Also there's not much to work with since there's no world building for it outside of
>Russia le dictatorship
>EU exists
Russia invading Alaska, the EU occupying Washington DC and totally-not-George-Bush being so hated he gets domestic terrorists to nuke DC is great though. Wish they let Russia play in the campaign too. Imagine Russia fighting the EU across America, lol.
>End War
Another case of almost no one except me caring I'm afraid. Three way war scenario is fun though, TFR should steal elements from it.
>World in Conflict
I think this is your best bet since it's just Red Alert but realistic enough to work within HOI4.

>>2123123
They need to stop pretending to be a pony mod. Genuinely, it would actually be better if they just went and made the furry world they wanted and left the ponies for someone else to do.

>>2123362
>EAW becomes a ponies VS furries race war
So fucking cursed.

>>2123329
APLA

Hey /vst/ I'm going to do my first Biden run. Some questions!
>Anything I should care about in the elections besides just winning?
>Any suggestions for early openers against Trump?
>How do I get Caligula?
>Are any other paths worth it except maybe Bloomberg?
Thanks!

>>2123401
No
Set up a good airforce and you should be able to fold him like a lawnchair.
Take "Discourage Anti-Americanism" and "Blow the Whistle", get Biden to his last stage of dementia, and bring ACG to 80% capitulation or more.
You could try the Republican path, other than that I don't see any other interesting ones.

Question regarding TFR as I just started playing and haven't done anything with the U.S. Do they mention the U.S. civilian firearms market at all? Like is there any cost reduction for militias, small arms, or just flat stockpile increases? I was watching this video and thinking how many ARs or surplus ammo you could get with a confiscation/donation drive for the war effort. Confiscation might require too much coordination and cause too much unrest at a crucial moment though.

>>2123195
I love to think that this guy saw path in a video game where he forcefully unites Europe and starts WW3 and went "Yeah, that's what I would have done."

>>2123453
you can buy guns during the civil war and you get decisions to stockpile guns pre-civil war, at least if you're trump. beyond that i don't believe so

>>2123458
>hmmm the NSDAP are pretty extreme but they do seem committed to stopping the russian reds

Words can't express how much I hate these fags

>TFR Updates
>Adds new bugs to the game

>>2123329
NSM 100% needs a rework/overhaul, thankfully one's already planned.

>>2123453
>Confiscation might require too much coordination and cause too much unrest at a crucial moment though.
Patriot Front has a focus where they can confiscate civilian firearms for the war effort, don't know about any other factions being able to do that though.

>>2123458
Canon.

>>2123492
Putins Russia.....

>>2123485
>Does nothing
>Gets absorbed by super EU or carved up and divided between far right France, Germany, and Italy.

>>2123492
Makes way too much sense considering how closely Russia is cooperating with the Tatars.

>>2123492
Akthually this is just a clever easter egg teasing the future religious version of the European Wars where it'll be a Christian/Muslim/Pagan Europe vs an Orthodox/Muslim Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP8_HE8nTOk&ab_channel=Eirik%C3%98sten

>>2123535
You're probably lying but that sounds funny so I hope it happens.

How do you all feel about custom superevents?

>>2123547
I am, but a holy war version of the European Wars would be sick. Russia does have some paths where Christianity takes a front seat, but something more grand where both sides are fighting for a certain faith and the conflict is centered around that would be cool.
>>2123576
I've seen some cool ones, this one's pretty good and makes me a little bummed out we're not getting Army of God content for a while. https://files.catbox.moe/cppbew.mov

>>2123535
>Orthodox/Muslim Russia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusich_Group
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodnovery

>>2123583
Makes sense Russia would also have some Pagan groups, a Pagan takeover path for them would be cool as well.

>>2123583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMnjHTNJR7Q&list=PLRI78PWlqWCPhJL9ZaIvJmAZRowciYvdi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7gnsvaafNA&list=PLRI78PWlqWCPhJL9ZaIvJmAZRowciYvdi&index=2
Hyperborea...home...

>>2123581
Muslim EU against ultra-Orthodox Russia or Kadyrovite Islamic Russia VS Crusader Nazi Europe would both go so fucking hard it's unreal holy shit.

>>2123583
>>2123585
Also these. These are cool.

Why is everything so samey and gay now

>>2123645
Because modernity is soulless and obsesses over muh rationality and much efficiency. Two great demons that ruin everything.

>>2123645
I was watching a video on the G36 and thinking about how sexy it was when I wondered if they were still using it. Checked the wiki page and saw that monstrosity. Old AR-15s are so much more aesthetic than modern ones too. I also really like old AR-10s.

>>2123485
Wish Switzerland was buffed a bit. I know its just meant to be a speedbump but I thought it would be more than a single week speedbump

>>2123702
>Switzerland
>stronger
What would they do against an enemy that is literally an entire continent by that point in the game?

>>2123654
>muh rationality and much efficiency. Two great demons that ruin everything.
...but when my heckin based natsoc does it, its greatest in the world.

>>2123675
>the G36
The caseless rifle you had to be a watchmaker to operate?

>>2123718
No, it uses 5.56 you're thinking of a different one

>>2123718
>>2123724
G11 while unique it's fucking ugly IMO

>>2123716
>muh nazis out of nowhere
Nazis were far from rational; their ideas were entirely based in ideology, personal ambitions, and insane esoteric takes. Even back in the interwar, it was the liberal UK and France that were wanking the rationalism and efficiency.

>>2123492
>Patani
Where the name come from also how would Russian Islam even work?
>>2123503
Is there a pic yet?

>>2123725
It's still kinda kino because it looks like an 80s sci-fi prop.

>>2123726
Just goes to show that sometimes you need to think outside the box to get it right.

>>2123729
>how would Russian Islam even work?
Just like it works irl. Just look at Tatarstan.

>>2123724
>it uses 5.56
Same as everything under the sun, apparently. They have to one day listen to the hundreds or even thousands of reports saying that they're magdumping hajjis or niggers but they're so high on drugs they're not noticing getting turned into swiss cheese.

>>2123703
Not much but I expected them to be a bunker, when I took them over I don't think they even had forts

How do I make templates that aren't shit in TFR? I'm playing my first game as Germany and I really don't feel prepared for the upcoming war. Only template I've properly upgraded is the Panzergrenadier one. Are special forces worthwhile? The starting templates seem really weak.

>>2124066
6 ifv and 2 spg. Best all rounder and requires a small production line
>Are special forces worthwhile
I literally only used them once because I accidentally made way more guns than mechanized. Their only purpose is to defend ports and you're better off just using regular infantry.

never played this, no idea what to do. What do I do. I have 0 DLC.

>>2123729
>Where the name come from
Separatist region in Thailand, it's a tag that can appear in the Thai civil war.

>>2124131
Play the tutorial.

>>2124131
If you have the game on steam you can pirate all the dlc quite easily.

>>2123492
Damn, Kadyrov path dropped
>>2123583
I want Rusich coup for Wagner so fucking bad. Let me """accidentally"""" level Vatican with an artillery barrage

>>2124236
Milchakov vs Lafayette has vibes of "The strongest schizo in history VS the strongest schizo of today" vibes. I can see it, as clear as if I saw it with my own eyes, Lafayette with full knight armor strapped on his exosuit and wielding a claymore and a riot shield, holding off the entire Russian army at picrel solo.

>>2124402
Just noticed I said vibes twice in the same sentence, plz don't kill me.

>>2124402
This makes me realize I want a mod loosely inspired by red alert so we can use time travel to bring historical figures in as national figureheads.

>>2124608
Or use AI as a narrative device. OWB does it.
>Why this
Time travel stories are almost always complete messes. But your idea could definitely be fun.

>>2124700
Everything about this mod feels like it's weird for the sake of being weird. It's like you told an AI to create a hardcore realismfag's idea of KX, TFR or some other "wacky" mod they've never played. Like in the pic.
>Guy in the original screenshot is talking about a relatively grounded Free France submod for TNO
>TNO devs see it, think it's a Redux, will never bother looking at either mod
>LELELELEL STUPID WHACKY MEME REDUX MOD THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE YOCKEY LE STARTING PRESIDENT OF AMERICA JUST TO BE WHACKY LELELELELEL REDUXES ARE SO UNSERIOUS
That's how this feels like. It feels like one of those chucklefucks describing what they think a Redux mod they've never played is like. Which now that I think about it is still more interesting than anything that kind of person will ever make.

>>2124402
Nah, Lafayette and Milchakov fighting together. That's some next level kino
>>2124608
>Ripping people from past, future and alternative timelines to use as leaders, generals and ministers
Kino.
Also would work for another paradox game, Stellaris
>>2124711
When either kiwi or 2wrw version outpaces original TNO in terms of comtent I want to run this screenshot in the collective snouts of """realism""" clique

>>2124700
why are modders like this

>>2124776
Here's the full ideology list.

>>2124785
Why isn't mine on it?

>>2124796
What's your ideology?

>>2124785
>neonazism
>dissident left
what

>>2124776
>yeah actually we're gonna make him a tranny because he happened to talk to one 20 years ago
I would get angry over this if it were not for it being ridiculously funny

>>2124809
>In this timeline, Nazism laid in ruins after Spain (a Left-Wing National Syndicalist State in WW2) and Germany (both being in the Axis in this timelines WW2) both horribly failed and capitulated, after this, many saw the post-war situation as proof of Hitler's words, and that the West was a destroyer of mankind, with post-war resistance occurring in Germany and Spain, rubbing shoulders with other terrorists, especially left-wing ones, and establishing themselves among the youth radicals. By the 80s, an evolution of Nazism progressed, further splitting by the 80s into:

>- "Classical Nazis", viewing Nazism as an inherently right wing and traditional aristocratic and professional ideology. These were the ones that embraced political entryism, the political system the Third Position they hated managed to rise through the ranks of;

>- And "Neo-Nazism", viewing Nazism and "Hitlerism" as an inherently left wing, revolutionary, and insurrectionary ideology.

>As the 1980s and 90s went on, many Western "Neo-Nazis" would team up more and more with far-left terrorists, viewing them as fellow comrades and helpers in the destroyers of the establishment, Neo-Nazism in general became a more left-wing associated movement as time went on, more diluted and hanging out with other dissident militant types.

>At the present date, in the non-western world, many Arab nationalists view Neo-Nazism with great interest, and many movements are still active and influenced by it. In the western world, however, Neo-Nazism isn't at it's best, as many European countries have taken political action against the ideology due to its terrorist connections, and American Neo-Nazis themselves splintering over old guard members and current day social issues and members' feelings about them, and there not being one unified answer on it.

>>2124802
>men dressing up as women went from comedy to some kind of expression of identity in the span of a decade
Grim.

>>2124827
You have yet to witness the true horrors of modernity yet. It will continue to get worse.

Found picrel on Reddit, thoughts?

>>2124888
Text is way too small, but in TFR I'd imagine /pol/ and the entirety of 4chan really would be under 24/7 surveillance and mass assault by bots and shills for various groups. I mean it kind of already is with NAFO and Russian shills, but it'd be a million times worse.

>>2124896
>>but in TFR I'd imagine /pol/ and the entirety of 4chan really would be under 24/7 surveillance and mass assault by bots and shills
>in TFR
Anon, I...

>>2123232
Based FSB

>>2124896
>in TFR
Be honest, when's the last time you actually used /pol/?

>>2124774
>When
I mean, both sorta do if you're just talking about volumes of playable content? Rises Again lacks Guangdong, the Britain rework and a handful of skeletons but they've re-added heaps of cut content including focus trees for the Iberian Wars and some content for Heydrich and Tabby but I don't know how complete either is. Still, for such a short time and small team, a very robust offering of content for tags that people actually care about. Plus you get the Atlantropa map which is cool.
Requiem doesn't have Brazil and Antarctica, but it actually let's you finish Russian campaigns with full trees for two tags, one of which has a nuclear war where you get to take Berlin. They're starting to integrate various submods and others are getting ported over to it. Plus you don't get the Antarctica map so performance is better.

>>2124785
>Neo Nazism in the same group as RadFem, Jacobinism and progressivism
Wut?
>>2124813
Autism.

>>2124896
>>2124902
>>2124933
Do you remember that academic study talking about how it's difficult to properly shill on 4chan and that it would be better to just make all the users abandon it by flooding it with boring trash? It does feel a bit like that's been happening.

>>2124970
>>academic study
>he believes the paid government shills
Anon, I...

>>2124970
>https://crestresearch.ac.uk/resources/mining-the-chans/
This one. It's essentially a university study on how best to shill here.

>>2124973
nayrt but it's not wrong. It's hard to effectively shill things here but it is possible to make threads and even entire boards completely awful through astroturfing but it's not like that's going to convince people to actually like the shit you're astroturfing for.

>>2124978
>but it's not like that's going to convince people to actually like the shit you're astroturfing for.
That is not true at all. If you do something for prolonged period of time it will have its effects and it is proven daily considering how much the board cultures changed in just five years.
Also
>>2124977
literally proves it
God, how I yearn for total market collapse. I hate the governments and corpo and academia. They should all die.

>>2124973
>>2124978
It's pretty much considered a given by the 4chan userbase that this site is flooded with shills. Other sites don't even question the posts they see unless it's an obvious ad.

>>2124985
>literally proves it
The conclusion that study came to is that it would probably be more effective to make the site unusable with meaningless spam than to properly astroturf and try to change opinions.
>God, how I yearn for total market collapse. I hate the governments and corpo and academia. They should all die.
I do agree with you here though. Fucking insane that these faggots are so blatant about their brainwashing campaign using fucking bots. They're a university, why the fuck are they running bot disinfo campaigns?

>>2125003
>The conclusion that study came to is that it would probably be more effective to make the site unusable with meaningless spam than to properly astroturf and try to change opinions.
That is still shilling, and they are doing it every day.

Every day I am disappointed that this submod didn't get finished

Or this one, it was pure kino

Just unified US as PF
>Couldn't figure out requirements for hail Caeser focus
>Nsm had more legitimacy despite doing fuck all, had to use commands
>Atomwaffen, despite lend lease, was losing to florida. After I saved their them they proceeded to sit there, not even sending armies to the front
>Wanted to go for NJP but I did the playthrough blind so ended up with blueshirts. PF looks replayable and I probably should have planned the focuses out
>PF captures NYC fired multiple times and each time I got minus 10 stability
>Democratic socialist APLA is definitely the weaker path
Overall pretty good experience
>>2124888
>>2124896
>You will never shitpost on /pol/ while National Front buckbreaks UoA, Loji lands in Japan and Russian tanks enter Berlin for the third time
Why even live

>>2125003
>They're a university, why the fuck are they running bot disinfo campaigns?
You know one of the primary ways unis get funding is through massive contracts from the government and billionaire NGOs, right? Research is how they stay competitive.

>>2125028
I often think about how much fun it'd be to shitpost on /pol/ in the TFR timeline. Imagine /uhg/ VS /chug/ or a more neutral place like /sg/ but people would be talking about the latest NA offensive into Cleveland and drone battles around Poland while posting memes about all the leaders. You know just as an art project sometime I'd love to see someone write up some threads like that. Not shitting up the board with actual threads just something made as a form of fan fiction in the style of a /pol/ thread about the EW and shit.

>>2125036
I meant that in a rhetorical way. More so why do they retain any credibility as places of learning when they're running botfarms in an attempt to destroy independent websites? Maybe they don't. I had a friend who wanted to be a literature professor and he ended up giving up after his masters because current academia is so hellish.

>>2124785
>Grunge corporatism
Nirvana?

>Cyber Animism
How is Hina Kageyama, the Touhou character in that image, related to that movement?

>>2125053
>but people would be talking about the latest NA offensive into Cleveland and drone battles around Poland
It would be more than talking desu, it would be retarded anons taking pictures and commenting how a drone strike hit their neighbor or how the local anarchist militia demanded their 4chan account be deleted

>>2125187
Yeah, remember the anon who went to Chaz to document it? He was making live threads while he was there. At some point some others there figured it out and were trying to find him.

>>2125024
That looks cool

>>2125187
Yeah exactly, it'd be so fucking kino.

Why in the fire rise does the nsm rise up in areas that majority black?

>>2125053
It's fun and games til you are the one dodging drones in some conflict.
Well, I guess out of major players Brazil doesn't have a civil war or a war, but I'd rather take my chance there than live in Brazil
>>2125208
I've seen foreign volunteers in /uhg/, contract soldier in /chug/ and random Ukrainians bitching about explosions at the early stages of the war

>>2125238
>Why do the Confederates rise up in an area where there are so many black people?

>>2125247
>I've seen foreign volunteers in /uhg/, contract soldier in /chug/
That sounds kino, any screens anywhere?
I do remember Ukrainian flags posting early in the war but I don't visit flag boards very often.

>>2125247
>Brazil doesn't have a civil war or a war
Not for lack of trying. After the stolen presidential elections that got Lula elected through fraud, the military was waiting for Bolsonaro to give the word to occupy govt buildings, but Bolsonaro kept his head down.

>>2125238
Because fatigue leads to exhaustion, leads to anger.

>>2125258
>the military was waiting for Bolsonaro to give the word to occupy govt buildings, but Bolsonaro kept his head down.
A true nothing ever happens case. Brazilians were freaking out and I really started thinking something was going to happen. They kept saying there was a lot of precedent for it.

>>2125247
Some of my most vivid early war memories was that one time people posted some musical act to Reddit, revealed the location of their base in the process and then later that same day the base was nuked and everyone died. There was another one where the national guard was holding some kind of recruitment event in Kharkov, advertised it on Facebook and - shock of shocks - the place gets hit by a cruise missile, all windows are blown out, building's completely fucked and everyone's dead.

Now imagine that kind of isolated retardation and add American zoomers in California and any other clout-chasing cunt you can think of. Imagine all the IRL streamers getting shot and bombed, clout whores getting their friends bombed because they're using Discord on their phones and every other form of abject retardation in the world. And unlike the Russians and Ukrainians I bet you they wouldn't wise up to that sort of behavior after a few months. You'd get these dumbass zoomers and millennials getting themselves blown up every day and it'll be the funniest thing ever. And unlike most people in Russia and Ukraine who got dragged into that tragedy I guarantee you that the annoying zoomers definitely deserved getting droned just because of how annoying they are.

>>2125270
Why would streamers and influencers be anywhere near the front-

>clout-chasers
Oh...

I can imagine any resistance movement (think the Wolverines in Red Dawn) collapsing in weeks, if not days, because of some leftist crap they'd prioritize over survival or continued existance.

>>2125270
Anarchist APLA Opsec would be fucking abysmal

>>2125270
>>2125279
>livestream of Hasan Piker being drone striked
It would be epic.

>>2123725
My wife

>>2125253
No screens for volunteer guy
Guy was a burger with black sun and valknut tattoo, said he was heading to Ukraine
Russian one namefags as "rem-contractor" and hangs out in /chug/. Serves in artillery, posted his anime body pillow on the frontlines. Shits up the thread with Coffin of Andrew and Leyley.
>>2125270
Kek that was hilarious.

>>2125302
>Russian one [...] serves in artillery
Could it be?

For the fire rises which faction should I play as for the 2ndACW?

>>2125148
>Cyber Animism is the belief that aspects of the internet or the internet in general to be holy/have magical or mystic properties, and convening them to know how to rule.
As for the other one I am as confused as you.

>>2125208
Hold up, you for real? Elaborate & drop archive link.

>>2125330
Patriot Front.

>>2125333
>Elaborate
Anon lived in Seattle and went to CHAZ. Posted multiple threads on /pol/ posting pics and talking about it. I remember it being multiple days of threads from him. At one point he was tipped off, I think by anons, about reddit/discordfags talking about him and how they were searching for him. He got a pic of himself with the nigger warlord who took power because he a had a rifle. I don't have any screens and I wasn't able to find any at a glance. If you go through the /pol/ archive during that time you can find it. Maybe search for chazanon.

>>2125344
>>2125333
Here's a pic of that. I just checked the archive and you can just search chazanon. Scroll past the posts of retards who think that the CEO shooter was him and you'll find more info.

>>2124146
I played the tutorial and cant fucking take etheopia, ive tried the tutorial 3 times now. I have NO fucking clue what im doing wrong because I did exactly what the fucking game told me.

Im trying to learn it without the DLC as well so its not some DLC shit.

>>2125346
watch a tutorial on youtube

>>2125208
>Chaz
Apparently one of the old lead TFR devs was there in solidarity, I think some of his shit got stolen lol.

>>2125347
whos good.

>>2125350
>stolen
I hope you mean an unplanned donation, comrade.

>>2125346
What are your division templates looking like? You're hiring military advisors, right? Producing the proper equipment? Researching shit? Doing a military doctrine tree?

>>2125353
>Stealing good unless you're an unarmed black teen trying to steal a car then we're going to execute and mock you
I still can't believe that happened, I have to wonder if American leftists actually believe in anything or just want an excuse to commit acts of violence.

>>2125354
im doing exactly what the tutorial tells me and I just fucking lose.

>>2125357
How's your supply on the frontline? Do you have the trains/trucks needed to actually supply the troops? Are your divisions trained or green? Do you have enough oil to fuel your divisions with vehicles?

>>2125355
>I still can't believe that happened
It never did, it was just a joke

>>2125360
I dont know because the game didnt tell me any of that shit. I understand things need supplies, but nothing about trains or how to make supply lines or anything.

Im doing exactly what the Tutorial says to do while playing as Italy. Everytime I just eventually start getting locked with standing in Etheopia, unable to fully capture it. It doesnt teach me anything during this time and im not getting any feedback on WHAT the fuck im doing wrong.

>>2125362
>It never did, it was just a joke
Truth, CHAZ was just the name the media(Trump was president at the time so heavily biased in his favor) gave to the movement. It was actually CHOP, Capital hill organized protests which was formed due to white-on-black violence propagated and exacerbated by the police force. The same police force that abandoned the area rather than doing their job, resulting in a bunch of well-meaning hooligans asserting their newfound freedoms.

>>2125281
Better yet, MoistCr1tikal having his last stand and 12 hours of torture livestreamed to his fans.

>>2125368
Would be glad if they canonized Charlie being killed by AWD, him and his fans are annoying and reddit as fuck.

>>2125366
I know you're shitposting but is this really what they're going with now? You can still find the posts from the same people talking about how excited they are about the new "autonomous zone" and how happy they are that the police are gone.

Is the kaiserreich still bloated?

>>2125373
>but is this really what they're going with now
Yeah, thats the reason why its referred to as CHOP by leftists and not CHAZ.

>>2125365
Here's a guide video for beginners, there's a supply guide section at 33:00.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvHT121_lWQ&ab_channel=HeartsOfIronIV
If you stick with the game long enough to play TFR (a mod on the workshop) just know you don't want to create meat infantry divisions unless you're playing as one of the 2ACW factions.

>>2125368
>being forcefed his own excrement and digits
dubs or trips?

>>2125374
No, you are thinking of Kaiserredux

>>2125373
>Anarchist commune is set up due to alleged police brutality against minority groups
>The commune's security force ends up using excessive force on unarmed teenagers and executing them
God has a very interesting sense of humor. https://youtu.be/n4Yf2lW9JuM?si=8G83Uyu7tFVvZuSo&t=1219

>>2125378
A filthy lolbert like him doesn't deserve digits.

>>2125378
Quads.

>>2125386
Tens, imagine him having to deepthroat both of his hands on gunpoint.

>>2125350
No that was a BTWH (bring the war home) dev, a mod dominated by maoists that was present there infact im sure its the first guy in pic related unless you're talking about someone else

>>2125384
I looked up the kid they killed to see what people were saying about it, kinda wish I didn't.

>>2125344
>>2125345
Reading the thread, he looks kike as fuck.

>>2125373
>>2125375
More proof is the wikipedia page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill_Occupied_Protest

>>2125395
Read the thread, bro wrote fucking poetry. First thing I do when I take a trip to America is get this man a signed copy of Siege.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/username/CHAZANON/page/13/

>>2125014
Is this not that April Fools thing?

>>2125279
>>2125281
It'd be so fucking funny man, I'm telling you.

>>2125307
Shell memes are great.

>>2125355
The kind of leftist that posts that shit on Reddit or whatever believes whatever the TV or their favorite echo chamber streamer tells them. No thoughts or beliefs, just narrative. The same people that wanted to kill all Republicans for being Nazis had no problem rationalizing how Azov were wholesum 100, actually. If they were told that we needed to go full TND they'd get behind it in a week. No doubt about it.

>>2125253
>any screens anywhere
No but I have this. If I remember correctly he was in the thread asking if he should do it.

>>2125389
>first guy in pic related
Isn't that the tranny who was ousted from their leadership role for molesting someone?

>>2125401
Fucking hilarious. It's like that scene in life of brian

>Go on hoi4 modding subreddit
>Various creators are sharing their projects and there are interesting discussions about various topics

>Go to hoi4 modding 4chan thread
>TFR TFR LE TFR TRANIME DRAWING TFR TFR LE UNFUNNY TFR MEME

>>2125434
I'm sorry that TNO failed bro, but you need to let it go.

>>2125426
>morse code
Well, what's it say?

>>2125434
>>TFR TFR LE TFR TRANIME DRAWING TFR TFR LE UNFUNNY TFR MEME
I post like this, anime website btw.

>>2125270
I was living outside of the US in 2020 and desu I was excited to come back because at the time it felt like something like that really could have happened. The happening threads during the summer of love were really fun.

>>2125434
Are there any other relevant mods? I see EAW and OWB posted but most of the other popular ones are stuck in dev hell, a steep downward decline, or both.

>>2125447
>Are there any other relevant mods?
Kaiserreich, its adding more neolib content of nothing ever happens.

>>2125451
Are there any mods where Ireland is even somewhat fun to play?

>>2125455
EU4

i wish more mods leaned into wackier alt-hist stuff. maybe not to the extent KX does, but still

Speaking of the internet in TFR

>>2125475
>UOA sniper killed Blumpf
It's over...

So with those Garrisons, how to get Divisions to go to them? Or does it auto-make them invisibly if I have the supplies? Not really seeing anyhting.

>>2125489
Garrisons don't actually exist, your manpower and equipment just magically disappears into the ether to simulate garrisons

>>2125475
Who usually wins the ACW? I've only played half of one game but Biden died after the right wing factions start pushing on him. Trump killed them. Now Trump owns most of the US with the California commies owning the west coast.

>>2125482
Some say it was the ghost of Kief, North Dakota.

>>2125475
>here's how the APLA can still win
>camera shakes from the shelling

>>2125499
Most of the time it's either PF or APLA, seen the UOA win a few times, NSM like three times, Trump once, and AWD never unless i was playing as them.

>>2125517
I was hoping for Patriot Front because I'm going for one of the right wing German paths but it seems like Trump may win it all. Might try them next. I'm pretty shit but people say the ACW is generally pretty easy.

>>2125434
>I'm just gonna exercise my rights and responsibilities before Providance and allow myself to ban anyone that defends tfr by this point as if you do that, you are my enemy
>you are my ideological enemy, you are my enemy in terms of art, you are my enemy in terms of blood

>>2125475
Just imagine how hard he'll basedface in the thumbnail for the video trying to explain Atomwaffen tactics in Tampa.

>>2125524
>I'm pretty shit but people say the ACW is generally pretty easy.
It definitely is the easiest war in the mod depending on who you're playing as. UOA, Patriot Front, and APLA are piss easy. Trump is harder but if you know what you're doing it's doable, NSM entirely depends if you're able to piggyback off PF, and AWD is the hardest tag in the mod.

>>2125527
>>you are my ideological enemy, you are my enemy in terms of art, you are my enemy in terms of blood
STOP. THE. LARP.

>>2125436
Niggers toungue my anus.

>>2125542
Infinite kek.

Finally beat fucking Etheopia after learning more about supplies.

What are basic good types of "divisions" I should make that are kinda bread and butter?

How important is Navel as well?

>>2125547
Don't touch naval on your own; get a guide, that shit is esoteric. IDK about the divs, try some mountaineers and spam medium size light tank divisions.

>>2125547
Grats on beating the tutorial!
For babby's first navy you can honestly get away with just spamming a million cheap subs and calling it a day and maybe put out some naval bombers. It's not worth losing sleep over when you're just getting started.

For your bread and butter units, go for something simple. Seven infantry, two artillery, and support recon, engineers and AA companies is usually a good for holding the line against the AI. There are obviously better templates but that's about as close to a one-size-fits-all as you can get when learning the ropes.

You'll want a division template for punching through enemies too but that depends on the tag you're playing as. I'd suggest looking up a guide but generally a bunch of motorized with artillery and some tanks is works for most tags.

>>2125547
In the meantime, watch some tutorials and try to go for Mare Nostrum.

>>2125517
Has the devs ever said what's the canon outcome of events.

>>2125576
>Canon outcome
Even TNO abandoned the concept of a "canon end" to the content so obviously TFR isn't doing that.

>>2125576
Dev on Reddit said that there is no canon outcome.

>>2125576
I don't think they've ever declared any canonical outcomes to the wars, but personally I think Blueshirt PF is the canon outcome for the 2ACW.

>>2125547
Also PIRATE ALL THE MODS ASAP!

>>2125586
I'm assuming you mean DLC because otherwise your comment makes no sense.

>>2125595
Yeah, I meant DLC.

>>2125455
Kaiserredux

>>2125614
Anywhere else?

>>2125598
But the Spy/France DLC makes the game worse.

>>2125633
Then don't turn it on.

>>2125581
>Even TNO abandoned the concept of a "canon end
>TNO 2 for late 70s and 80s content was being planned years ago, with plans for TNO 3 and 90s content a longterm plan after that
>Now it just seems laughable to even think TNO is anywhere close to finishing the 60s
where did it all go wrong...

The death throes of my first game. No idea what the fuck I am doing.

>>2125762
>death throes
Situation isn't great, but you don't look completely fucked yet. Just gotta get those burgers out of Sicily and finish knocking out the Soviets.

>>2125765
>>2125765
dont think so.

The end.

>>2125618
Kaiserreich but it's worse than kaiserredux except for its socialist paths.

>>2125769
Just invent a time machine and everything will be okay!

>>2124785
scourge of Prometheus is the toozer mod goat
who is the most schizo?
who is the lest likely to come out?
who is the most retarded?
there is no competition

>>2125776
KXtards really still believe the KR dev team are a bunch of syndies when the last major update for them was India lmao.

What are SHIT DLC and what are really good DLC? Im new to this but not Paradox.(I have all the DLC)

no I didnt pay

>>2125774
Honestly not that bad if you made it to 1944 your first time as the scrappy underdog of the European powers on your first run. If you'd just made it a little longer, Germany might've beaten the Soviets and saved you even. Dunno if it was ever an option but maybe abandoning parts of Italy to form a stronger defensive line in the mountains and guarding key ports early might've been a way to save things.

Good luck with your next game, anon!

Has anyone played weltkrieg?

>>2125784
You're right. In the toozer mod arms race this is the Tsar Bomba right there. Makes LoHaLi look sane, released and smart by comparison.

>>2125856
I noticed I got fucked hard in the south with that little island off the side of the Italy boot. America landed and was just impossible to remove, then the UK cut Italy in half making that major army I had RIGHT near that Island(not on it sadly) impossible to move becuase it was able to prevent USA from progressing but I could not beat them myself since its both Mountains and I think they were "Entrenched" or something and I had no fucking idea that Mountaineers were "Special Ops" and didnt even scroll down to see the special ops research that let me get way fucking more than 24.

Navy was also just completely out of my depth, not a single fucking clue on what to do yet for that. This games def a bit weird, im very used to CK2/Vicky2 which the combat is slower, and way less fine tuning/prep. It seems Military is the major focus, and how you have them distributed and supplies.

There was an effortpost at the end of the last thread I thought was interesting.

>Here's the thing: no one aggressively hates Kalterkrieg. You don't see anything close to the vitriol people have towards TNO and its nudev clique despite nothing ever happening and being in dev hell forever. So let's say that the nudev clique releases all the content they're promising tomorrow as a new mod without any of the baggage of TNO. Sure the mod they're offering appeals to few but they'd have their own niche. Most people would still play TNO, TFR and KX. "The Campaign Order" would just be a blip on everyone's radar. Anons that try it would just shrug their shoulders and move on with their lives as if nothing had happened. A screenshot of Mango saying a dumb thing every now and then would be the most hostility we'd ever get towards The Campaign Order as it'd simply be forgotten again after a few days if not hours. People are already forgetting about the GWX drama after all.

>But if they released everything they're promising tomorrow as part of TNO you'd still have all the unfavorable comparisons to the original content they removed, years of antagonizing a community, years of erasing content and a future where they'll forever be compared to what came before them. All the people that dislike their current direction would still dislike that direction and would be angry that something they liked was taken away from them. You'd also have years of political backroom dealings, purges, thousands of alienated fans. There's no undoing all of this. We'd argue about DV's minigames being shit compared to the SAW instead of riffing on them for never releasing anything.

>So here's how you make 4chan stop hating nu-TNO: build a time machine, make The Campaign Order instead, release it to a collective shrug and watch as 4chan bitches about Panzer's railroading of the WRRF instead.

Is he right? Would everything be fine if the nudevs just made their own mod instead of reworking all of TNO?

>>2125882
I've played the game for an embarrassing amount of time and navy stuff is still weird to me. There's a lot of jank and weird quirks in the game but that makes it more fun. By the way special forces limits are based on your army size. So make a more basic infantry division for your general defense and line holding.

>>2125886
the logistics its throws at me with it is a lot. Im really engrossed with the systems and depth, but it does 0 job explaining the significance of anything. I didnt even know there was an option you had to choose, which then also creates a massive fucking day based delay(70 days for me) to move from Italy to Albania just to invade navy wise.

The Tutorial is really dogshit.

I dont know why this game is so much harder to grasp than CK2 and Vicky 2, even with DLC and mods.

https://thefireriseswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/American_Constitutional_Government#Unobtainable_Leaders
So it says that Flynn was an obtainable leader on release. Is this changing because of the planned update adding a despotism route? Also devs if you're reading this: please add more Patriot presidential candidates. You can get lots of fitting ones as advisors but you can only have a hereditary succession for president. Just take Flynn or some other general and two-three more of the more prominent Patriot advisors and let me run them in the 2028 elections. I just like the larp aspect of being able to bookend my runs that way and just having a family succession feels more Despot than AuthDem. Thanks.

Now that the dust settled, are the huge maluses to resistance that KR Russia's gets after conquering eastern Europe justified or is that just devs polluting the game with modern day political activism?

>>2125921
If anything they're catering to the crowd that wants to feel the satisfaction of crushing separatism.
The worst changes to KRussia was nerfing the MIOs, devs were weak and couldn't stand up for the novel design choices.

>>2125921
It's the latter and it's not the first time. When their US rework dropped syndies coasted in victory and all of America just went along with the wonderful new equality and all the evil racists (in famously progressive1930s America) got -500% stability for saying "negro" once. It comes across the same way here. You can make an argument for it like >>2125939 does but their selective treatment of things makes me feel that it's politics again.

TFRNiggers tongue my anus

>>2125784
>>2125864
What about Pax von Der Weltkrieg Redux?

>>2126015
Is that even a real thing?

>>2125855
All of them are good but for some mods you will need to disable unit packs (the ones that give extra models to your units) for compatability

>>2125916
It was changed because on release the balance of power was between the civilian government and the military instead of the beurocracy and the people. So if you took a focus in the stratocracy path it could lead to him couping you.

>>2126038
I know that. I was wondering if they wanted to expand on your options in the future. Just running family members only feels more apt for the despot route. I want to run a Patriot faction candidate in an actual election. Honestly Flynn would be a good candidate since he'd be a respected war hero by that point and I could see other candidates working too. It'd make the AuthDem end game better imo.

>>2126019
Apparently, yes.

>>2126015
If its ran by the same people from the original one then i do not have high hopes since there was quite some overlap with czars sex cult bullshit and those people
Not to mention the blackmailing of 2040 devs and the pax ruthenia shenanigans, shame really because the mod itself was quite interesting

>>2126053
Scourge of Prometheus looks dumber.
That's clearly a fantasy setting of some sort and no matter how stupid it is I can at least suspend some disbelief.
SoP's opening salvo is the most abrasive art style ever while Richard Spencer lusts for post-transitioning (totally passes guys) JD Vance.
There's no contest. Like that one anon said, the toozer mod to end all toozer mods.

NEW DEV CORNER - China Rework

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/chinas-war-from-resistance-to-liberation.1855764/

NEW DEV CORNER - China Rework

>>2126086
I've never played Japan but every step of what they're supposed to do seems miserable.

>>2126076
>fantasy setting
Anon, I...

>>2126086
>It's just KR China with some twists

>>2126095
First image was fantasy. This is just a shitpost. I won't be baited. SoP is still memeier.

>>2126086
Some of these borders are quite questionable for 1936, so they already fucked it up. As always they can't even do a basic level of research.

>>2126086
AI-generated portrait for Chiang Kai-Shek
The future of paradox looks grim.

>>2126098
Anon, I...

>Hear about the first Euro war being difficult.
>commie russia finally invades Ukraine
>they seem to be doing alright
>we join and almost immediately they start falling apart
>after a year almost at moscow with no sign of the Russian military improving
Do they get more buffs or did I get an exceptionally weak russia?

>>2126116
Grim.

>>2126116
>Chiang Kai Shrek

>>2126118
Ok, I will now play your mod

>>2126095
>uninhabitable
The good timeline

I'm going to do a Biden run. Where's the best place to push early? Chicago into the upper Midwest or further south despite all the rivers?

>>2126118
Cool.
>>2126095
What happened to the Balkans?

>>2126116
Holy fucking newfag. That is just PDX portrait style.

>>2126127
>>2126129
>>2126131
>https://www.reddit.com/user/MoralityIsAmbiguous/
>Our discord has been closed for the time being and we've gone under private development
>Written 3 years ago
Anons, I...

>>2125902
Have you seen the little button to change from horse based logistics to motorized logistics? You'll need to have a few hundred trucks for it but it'll fix most of your issues with logistics.

>>2126086
Endless rework hell. I remember playing in China both before and after they released the Chink DLC and judging the DLC to be shit, now they're reworking it again and will presumably fuck it up again.
>an extremely important participant in the global war effort: China.
...

>>2126120
If russia takes the left military tree it rapes europe, if it takes the right military tree it gets raped as it has no manpower.

>>2126135
>Didn't find out about this until I had like 600 hours in the game
Another two hundred hours later and I still can't into navy, rarely play as China or Japan in TFR because I don't feel like learning navy.

>>2126140
It's the other way around, if they go down the NATO tree they get raped. But if they go down the CSTO tree they rape Europe. But I wonder what would happen if they went down the guerilla warfare tree that really just exists for AWD?

>>2126141
Don't blame yourself for it, I've been playing this pile of shit since release and it took me like 2 weeks of playing the game after the logistics update to notice the button. It's like they wanted to fucking hide it.

>>2126132
It isn't. I'd suggest playing the game sometime.

That reminds me, any updates from EGD?

>>2126143
Left tree is CSTO dumbass

>>2126195
Yes, and it is the better path for Russia. The right path literally just cucks you out of manpower.

>>2126195
I thought you were talking about the land doctrine trees.

>>2123097 (OP)
KR 3I rework when?

>>2126218
Before KR Hungary and TNO Germany/America reworks.

>>2125784
You sure?
>https://www.reddit.com/r/hoi4modding/comments/1jstbaq/on_the_beach_subideologyideology_teaser/
Lore of the mod:
>Cold War goes hot in April 1969 due to the DPRK's shooting down of an American plane, at the peak of the anti-war, free love and hippie movements. The mod is set in the year 2000, with a post-apocalyptic American South and Caribbean. The mod also has a resurgence and strenghtened collection of religious movements which gained further power over the years after the apocalypse, especially the Process Church of the Final Judgement, which controls southern Mexico.

>>2126242
Made by a former TOTA dev BTW.

>>2126242
Basé

>Declare war on Cyprus
>Britain and Greeks jump into the war to defend them
At this rate all of Europe will belong to the Franks.

>>2125784
About that:
>picrel
Corporation-controlled city-states somehow go even harder than Guangdong (RIP TNO).

>>2124711
>very concerningly well researched
This always infuriates me more than it should
>>2124785
Decent icons

>>2126258
This is like a mix between Anthropocene and From men to wolves but less grimsome

>>2126272
I like the aesthetic more than ToA also despite being the same.

>>2126245
World map

>I CAN'T FIGHT
How do I get rid of this?

>>2126268
I never noticed that that they thought doing actual research into National Socialism was suspicious. Guess that's why they have Hitler free the slaves, lul.

>>2126272
FMTW is aesthetically peak as far as these schizo mods go. Unique and stands out but without giving me epileptic seizure even in static screenshot form.

>>2126139
They were important, anon… as a punching bag to keep most of the IJA busy.

Check out these two dudes:
>https://www.reddit.com/user/Confusedwacko/comments/1evdcvv/universe_10665_in_order_so_similar_to_our_own_and/
>https://www.reddit.com/user/Bundtkake/submitted/
Both make schizo maps, except the former tries to stick to reality using lesser-known parts of history, while the latter just drops a bunch of eldritch abominations all over the place and goes from there. Also check out picrel, it's based.

>>2126318
But what does this have to do with hoi4?

>>2126322
It can be used to make a HOI4 mod off of the lore.

>>2126318
Too static

>>2126329
You could make a warlight map out of this.

>>2126329
Fucking beat me to it.

>>2126318
>>2126329
>>2126334
Who made all these

>>2126334
>>2126329
>>2126318
These are hilarious.

>>2126357
Reminds me of this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/@thepersephonefoundation1001/videos

>>2126357
>>2126334
>>2126329
These two are the same guy,
>>2126318
This one is someone else.
>>2126375
Y'all want more?
Here: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fp6x7hnoakvef1.png

>>2126380
Here's some more:
>https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/1fyzccs/how_many_world_wars_does_it_take_to_doom_humanity/

>https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/1i51hb8/what_if_there_were_a_lot_more_world_wars_the/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/1k2ysrn/what_if_there_were_a_lot_more_world_wars_the/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/1ldpkke/what_if_there_were_a_lot_more_world_wars_the/
^^^ These ones are a trilogy ^^^

>https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/1ldrixj/horizon_2088_what_if_cyberpunk_was_le_epic_feel/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/1m1rtu4/the_stand_alone_complex/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/1lukjyg/the_america_century_has_only_started_a_boring/
^^^Probably made by leftists after the 2024 election^^^

>https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/1dkxe3w/world_trauma_zone_or_a_kaiserreich_timeline/

>https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/1jz29gg/parabellum_the_reformation_of_the_world_order/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/imaginarymaps/comments/1m5o2zf/dornerkrone_the_stolen_future_dreams_of_electric/
^^^ Kaiserreich in the modern day ^^^

>>2126398
>>2126409
Cool

>https://www.reddit.com/user/Logical-Ad5718/submitted/
This man makes the most schizo maps on the subreddit. I'm pretty sure if you went to Stellaris general and posted his pictures there, they would tell you it's too unrealistic and impossible to implement in the game. Picrel is one of them.

>>2126424
That's all for now, sorry for shitting up the thread.

>>2126427
It's OK, these are about as likely to release as most TNO teasers so it's about on par with those.

>>2126438
If you want more, just say the word.

>>2126443
Come back in a few days and spam them when we're at the bump limit and no one cares about it being off-topic.

>>2126446
K, will do. I'll post some pics when everyone's asleep.

This could be an interesting hoi4 setting. Humanity colonizes the solar system and develops a load of sci-fi tech before earth gets glassed by an asteroid.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10-NjH7ffnNJ-1Lwga_JYZc954T8Q6BeAT33G4Gq__0g/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.x0cxuen49uym

Any DLC that are absolutely just dogshit? I remember some in CK2 that were just fucked up the game. So I can disable it.

>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1137bM9feaLmR7RPkGhdyZFxepSfegfw0NAYuxUkX8EE/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.mo0oiam09myf
Kino, TFRdevs recruit these men!

>>2126480
That's how it looked before the hit:
>https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fpk0p65slpidb1.png

>>2126505
Picrel is 12 hours after the impact.

>>2125803
>KXtards really still believe the KR dev team are a bunch of syndies when the last major update for them was India lmao.
A reworked India which massively buffs the syndie India so it's double the size of the other breakaway states and acts as the 'default option'.

just wanted to say you guys are a buch of retards that know nothing about anything and still yap like you know what's up
you don't

>>2126556
>Waaah waaah like my irrelevant mod

>>2126531
To be fair the commies always get the shit raped out of them since they have to maintain two borders. I've never seen them win.

OWB update when?

Surprised no one posted it yet

Bonus:

>>2126716
This is amazing. My boy Burt is finally being done right.

anyone know if this guys guide is good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKAab0SNUiI

>>2126258
post the weezer teaser

>>2126053
>Agartha mod
i need it so bad

>>2126334
the Ottoman Empire isn't big enough

>>2126716
I wish they treated the NSM more seriously.
>>2126727
You have to be joking.

>>2126888
>Great the 500 pound Italian man like the Aryan GOD he deserves to be treated as
LOL. LMAO.

>>2125014
What's the name of this submod?

>>2126893
What happened to the "every path is told from their perspective" approach?

>>2126888 #
>Treat the 500 pound Italian man like the Aryan GOD he deserves to be treated as
LOL. LMAO.

>>2126896
Sorry, had to fix a typo. I agree but Burt is ridiculous. It's fine if they joke about him being a fat retard because he is. You'd have to add some way for him to self improve to change that. Then I could see him have an arc like Rodz in TNO who tldr goes from being a paranoid alcoholic to a national dictator free from vice. If you get Burt to work to become the ideal, then he deserves to be taken seriously.

>>2126900
>burt gets /fit/
I'd pay to see that implemented.

>>2126900
>I agree but Burt is ridiculous
yes irl he is a ridiculous man who leads a ridiculous movement
in-game he takes this ridiculous movement and conquers michigan with them, or even more impressive feats than that
remember goering is still revered in nazi circles for his intelligence and commitment to the cause, his degenerate lifestyle is ignored or even forgiven

>>2126920
Same.

>>2126922
This is a very poor comparison. Yeah, Göring as dunked on a lot for some of his poor decisions, extravagance, pompousness and greed. But the people that revere him for his positive sides do so for his actual bright moments which had to be earned. The example I see used the most is how he in the Nuremberg trials put up some of the most effective defenses out of anyone there. What I'm saying is: this has to be earned. If current day Burt conquered some place people wouldn't look up to him nor would he, based on all existing evidence, act like someone that deserves veneration. He's act like a fat retarded brute, closer to an African warlord than a Caesar.

So my point stands: give Burt a way to redeem himself in-game. Have him get fit, have him study and follow political theory, have him work hard to become the ideal that he espouses. Because until he does then yes he should be dunked on for being a 500 pound Italian retard trying to become Hitler 2.

>>2126480
This is basically Children of a Dead Earth but more grimdark. Also with furries and other posthuman abominations.

>>2126929
>give Burt a way to redeem himself in-game
nigga what do you think you, the player, are doing

>>2126715
>>2126716
nothing about his cooler?

>>2126953
Nothing of the sort since none of the focuses give any hints that he's actually fixing himself. He starts as a fatass retard LARPer and ends as a fatass retard that looks and acts like a liberal's caricature of Göring. I hope they give him at least the option to work out his failures.

>>2126956
God please repost his Xeet about the stolen cooler. That thing DESERVES to become a TNO-style mega GUI.

>>2126983
the point is, as fat as he is, as brown as he is, as stupid as he is, he becomes a great man by DOING great deeds, not by BEING thin or white or smart
if you demand someone like that, then i'm sure you'll get that option in the rework, but it would be inauthentic to try and force burt into that
instead he should be depicted as a more sympathetic and effective version of what he already is, i picture a scrappy, cunning, results-focused political animal type character, probably closer to roehm than goering

>Burt getting /fit/
You can even have it as a mechanic. If he doesn't lose weight or get smarter, he gets ousted

>>2126715
They don't look very ubermensch. The NSM seems to not be sending their best.

>>2127007
>by DOING great deeds, not by BEING thin or white or smart
The problem is that you can't do great things unless you're two out of the three things you mentioned.

>>2127053
>You can even have it as a mechanic. If he doesn't lose weight or get smarter, he gets ousted
Honestly hope the rework includes something like this, I'd still like a Big Burt being able to lead the NSM but him being able to practice what he preaches would be cool. You could lock conditional traits behind him approving himself. Despite NSM being pretty shit atm I think they still have a lot of potential to become a good faction, just needs some work.

>>2127007
>Great deeds
>Being a brute that kills all his opponents
You can definitely make an arc about that but unless you give him SOMETHING that signifies that he becomes more than he is at the start then yes depicting him as a fatass that celebrates with a billion Bic Macs isn't that far off the mark. I fail to see anything about him that even comes close to Röhm, Göring or any other of the cunning but flawed political animals of the Reich. He's a nobody with a thousand vices that leads a functionally dead political movement in real life.

All I'm saying is: give me a route where he remains a retard and another where he improves. Base these on decisions taken along the way. Make this shift from what he is today be earned, but also make the route where this fat nobody takes over America feel rewarding in its own way. Because both can be great. Fat chud Burt and /fit/ Burt can co-exist and be beloved in the rework.

>>2127053
Unfortunately, they ARE sending their best. But at least it isn't Atomwaffen.

>>2127067
>approving himself
*improving himself.
Also if you wanted to add some difficulty to his self improvement you could have it so if you push him to improve too fast he has the chance to die of a heart attack/suffer a mental breakdown and get ousted leading to someone else running the NSM and unlocking new paths.

>>2127067
If the devs did what you suggested the tag could be great.

>>2127071
>Balance of power mechanic
>Every stage on the right (fit) is time-gated
>Advancing too hard in either direction too fast gives him a heart attack and unlocks different leaders
>Hitting 100% while pacing yourself gets you the best /fit/ Burt conditional trait
But on the flipside:
>Thicc (left side) can be spammed endlessly
>Stuffing yourself with burgers gives you short-term buffs and allows him to focus more and hit harder
>As you advance through the stages his permanent trait gets worse and worse, becoming the obesity version of Biden
>No time gates, but hitting 100% kills him through a heart attack and unlocks new routes same as with the other heart attack

We're on to something here.

>>2127078
>Farther right you go his portrait gets more jacked and handsome with the final one having him look straight up like Nazi propaganda (minus the swarthiness)
>Farther left you go the fatter and more disheveled he looks until he looks like a filthy greasy blob
Honestly I'd happily trade the current Rockwellian vs Hitlerite BoP for this, would make the NSM really fun and unique. Plus the Rockwellian vs Hitlerite BoP could be used for a different leader or Burt after he reaches peak /fit/.

NSM would be more interesting if there was a Kanye path.

>>2127062
many, many people have

>>2127106
Too memey, if Kanye was going to be added at all he should be an advisor for Esoteric Nazism BLA.

I want to see patriot front take Philadelphia IRL. This city deserves to be taken and lost several times.

>>2127129
Philly being one of America's oldest and most historical cities makes me think they'd try to keep the damage to a minimum while taking it, even if it is a shithole now.

>>2127145
Everyone who has lived in Philadelphia will joke about how it's a nightmarish hellscape but there's still some nice areas. I lived in west around UPenn and it's mostly beautiful Victorian townhouses. The area around Wissahickon park is nice, too. I like the surviving colonial areas of the city but the homes are far less lavish than the late 19th early 20th century neighborhoods. Philadelphia is a microcosm of America's decline.

Playing Germany in TFR, what's up with these templates I can't edit? Is there anyway to open them or should I just ignore it.

>>2127174
Have you started your military focus tree at all? May be a requirement.

>>2127175
I have. I'm still pre war with Russia though maybe it's something that'll come into play later. The starting German templates were all really really thin so I'm not sure I can use anything I can't edit.

>>2127178
Weird, well in that case you should just make your own division templates. Like you said the presets really aren't great so you're not missing out much.

>>2127185
Yeah that's what I did. The MBT, mech, and motorized templates were all editable. It's just some mountain infantry and what appears to be a command unit. I don't speak German so I may be wrong on what they're supposed to be.

>>2127096
You could just remove the Hitlerite VS Rockwellian BoP and have it be an influence ticker like with the factions in Biden's or Trump's America. Depending on which faction is the strongest, you get a different successor if Burt croaks.

>SAAAAAAAAAR WE NEED FAIV BILLION ROCKETS TO BOMB PAKISTAN.SUPER POWAR BY 2030 SAAAAAAAR
This happens in every Russia game.

So whats the deal with this mod people are talking about? Im just learning the base game with no DLC but the mod seems interesting when I actually fucking understand this game.

Is it some psedo-future dystopia shit?

>>2127238
Assuming you're talking about TFR this will answer all of your questions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A2ZwzP9Yw4&ab_channel=Cracksoc

>>2127238
The Fire Rises (if that's what you're talking about) is a modern day mod with a lot of extremist routes while remaining mostly grounded and plausible. Its PoD is that Covid is a lot worse than IRL, Saudi Arabia collapses, oil prices spike and the global economy fall apart, causing a lot of the aforementioned craziness.

Very good mod overall. The dystopia you mention is the EU route which lets you play as Claus Schwab and just buckbreak humanity forever. It's probably the most extreme route in the mod. Yes, the giga liberal EU route. In a mod that has Atomwaffen and Tabbiden.

>>2127238
>covid is much more deadly than it was IRL
>all those flashpoints that ended up being nothingburgers are in fact something burgers
>U.S. falls apart
>various other countries fall apart
>everyone who was waiting for that to happen launches their plans
>Russia / EU conflict, Taiwan / PRC conflict, etc.
In the most basic terms every single event you saw "it's happening" posts about ended up going down in the most chaotic way possible.

>>2127253
>The outcome where Europe falls into an anarchic hellhole that consists of nothing but roaming bands of psychotic killer cannibal rapists isn't the worst possible ending for Europe
Wild when you think about it, probably won't happen due to how late in the game it is, but Post-Catharsis content would be awesome.

>>2127259
I think it's pretty possible and reasonable. Lots of people want it and if TNO could do it for Tabby (and Requiem for Omsk whenever that drops) then I can see TFR doing it too. It's a bigger team than Requiem, and they don't hate gameplay like TNO does. Have hope!

>>2127259
Its a bit difficult to imagine what post-catharsis would look like but i hope that even when warlords and such pop-up that they're still as deranged alongside whatever is left of the world government
No way in hell would europe go back to normal after all of that

>>2127277
>No way in hell would europe go back to normal after all of that
I could see Eastern Europe regain some sense of normalcy, but still off and distorted in the best case scenario, but Western Europe would be totally fucked and unrecognizable. WG loyalists/remnants still existing in some areas is an interesting idea I hadn't thought of.

>>2127282
with the sheer depravity that'd occur i can see people cling onto the sense of order the WG had or even radically agree with the sentiment that man has to be tamed after seeing cannibal rapists roam the continent

>>2127277
>No way in hell would europe go back to normal after all of that
Hi Claus Schwab. As it turns out, the human spirit is a lot stronger than you imagine. Centuries of war, nukes and any horror above and beyond hasn't destroyed it. I'm sure some interesting people will appear post-Catharsis. Sure, it'll look more like Red Flood tha 2020 TFR, but humanity will endure. And we'll both have fun playing it!

>>2126707
What do you mean? They updated a couple of months ago if I recall.

>>2127290
>Centuries of war, nukes and any horror above and beyond hasn't destroyed it
Because there was always some sort of civilization to rebuild, or to return to.
A post-Catharsis world would have none. They're so far gone they forgot the very concept of civilization, and would either rediscover it somehow in the future, or die living under the ruins they don't understand, or will ever understand, made by civilizations long gone.

Best nation to start TFR and learn division templates? I tried China, but there were too many different brigades. Is it even important or is it just a visual novel?

For the fire rises why the corporate take over of the us only happens if the UOA wins? Also faction(s) you wish has a unique focus tree? Is there any point of doing a republican take over of the patriot front?

>>2123097 (OP)
Its easy to depict change of ideology, but what the fuck do you put in focus tree in a country thad had same ideology for ages. There is only so much you can do with fascism

>>2127332
Patriot Front, American Peoples Liberation Army, and Union of America are the best tags for learning the mod imo.

What do we know about the intricacies of state administration? Very little. Especially when it comes to the Russian system. Like the country itself, not only Western experts, but also Russian citizens, have only a vague understanding of the machinery that governs Russia.

Behind icy stillness of the State Duma or Presidential Administration, a great mechanism is running to supplement the needs of the massive nation. Although certain branches sometimes have precedence, there may come a time when one of them is replaced by another, deemed more suitable by the current Kremlin occupant. The core always remain, outside of the ideological constraints or political favoritism, the system must run smoothly to ensure the survival of the Russian state.

>>2127338
>Also faction(s) you wish has a unique focus tree?
Jewish Liberation Army but I doubt they'll touch it and, if they do, they won't lean into making it meme-y because Jews.

>>2127338
>For the fire rises why the corporate take over of the us only happens if the UOA wins?
UOA is supposed to be the establishment, so it makes sense they'd have a corpo takeover path. But I think a Libertarian ACG where Trump has completely sold out the movement should have a corporate takeover path as well.
>Also faction(s) you wish has a unique focus tree?
Army of God, Hutaree Milita, Brigham's Army, the Chicanos, and Jewish Defense League would all be awesome. But if I could only get one I'd take Army of God, surprised they weren't picked to get content in 1.1 since how much demand there is for them.
>Is there any point of doing a republican take over of the patriot front?
No, it's just a fail state. It has no content and probably never will.

>>2127352
>UOA is supposed to be the establishment,
I awalys felt that it should be either the military or the cia take over.
>Army of God
What would their tree even look like?

>>2127372
>What would their tree even look like?
For the most part I like this mockup some people made. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1137bM9feaLmR7RPkGhdyZFxepSfegfw0NAYuxUkX8EE/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.a5ufncqfe7o8

>>2127343
I can't get it because because it was in the old discord but I remember a coder/gfx dev absolutely enraged at the loc devs for adding more than 3 options on their events as it would overlap.

What mods are actually worth playing? I feel like every other mod I download is made by some 16 year old Eastern European who has to dig a hole to take a shit.

Seriously wtf is going on. They wont fucking navel invade. They dont do anything. I have air/naval superiority and the plan finished.

>>2127475
You're not allowed to naval invade Albania.

>>2127475
you're not at war

>>2127478
lol HOLY FUCK thank you. I thought I started it.

>>2127474
ERBX
That's it.

>>2127352
>Hutaree Milita, Brigham's Army, the Chicanos, and Jewish Defense League
What would their focus tree even look like?

>>2127475
You might not have enough transports for the invasion, or no fleets on convoy escort.

>>2127486
>Hutaree Milita
Broad Christian supremacy.
>Brigham's Army
Mormon supremacy of various flavors, maybe make them separatists with only one path being a national unifier.
>the Chicanos
Latinx supremacy, separatists with maybe a national unifier path.
>Jewish Defense League
Jewish supremacy, with a separatist path and a path that unifies with Israel/retakes it if it's lost.

>>2127343
I remember there was a leak here that mentioned towers of Kremlin mechanic
Which may mean it's real
>>2127372
Damn, I want a glownigger coup path now

Writing loc sucks so much I might as well start using chatgpt like tfrtroons

>>2127493
>unifies with Israel/retakes it if it's lost
every tile in the middle east glassed
1 billion dead
3rd temple built

>>2127501
I think it’s this one.
>>2117392
https://arch.b4k.dev/vst/thread/2114391/#2117392

>>2127583
I know you linked it but it's easier to just post the image because that's not even the first time it was posted to these threads

>>2126289
hey I made that map

>>2124809
>>2124969
you faggots can read, cant you?

>>2127625
I ain't reading all of that. I'm happy your transitioning worked out though, or sorry that it happened.

>>2127517
Where Brazil?

Whats a good spread of factories for Italy? I have no idea whats a good number or when to focus on civ vs military. I felt like I was always a bit shy of having enough so like half my shit wasnt stockpiling.

Also does Italy have some shit I can do WITHOUT being thrown into the world war but still do wars in other places? Also how much should I be making divisions and does Calvary fall off fast or something or does it have niche purposes?

What are the plane types to better focus on? Fighters/Bombers/CAS? Whats a good number to go for?

I cant even begin to understand Navy.

>>2127678
>Whats a good spread of factories for Italy?
Only build civs until jun 1938 only build mils after.
>Also does Italy have some shit I can do WITHOUT being thrown into the world war
You can do alt paths in the focus tree but other than you have to manually justify which can take up to a year.
>does Calvary fall off fast
It's only purpose is for meme encirclements but in regular gameplay it's near useless.
>What are the plane types to better focus on? Fighters/Bombers/CAS? Whats a good number to go for?
Build fighters until air is green, if air maintains at green then start building cas. Bombers are near useless in singleplayer so don't bother much.
>I cant even begin to understand Navy.
If you want to just turn your brain off just do subs with max concealment and okish torpedos.
You also need to get the researches in picel, they universally buff your attack and defence and you will always get raped if you don't have them.

>>2127681
dont have those navy things atm no DLC on. Im trying to learn the basic basics so im not getting raped by the AI using DLC shit I dont even understand. Maybe I should put it on though if im gonna be using them.

>>2127681
also how do I "use" subs?

>>2127715
nayrt but subs are pretty easy to use. Since you're a rookie and aren't going for anything complex, you can honestly get away with just spamming regular subs and just overwhelm your enemies. It's the cheapest ship so you can get a huge amount of them even with a small number of naval yards. That said their main use is supposed to be trade interdiction, which they're very good at too. Just park them somewhere where convoys would logically have to pass and you can rack up a lot of kills.

>>2127725
So can I disrupt the AI supply as much as I can fuck up my own?

Im more used to CK2 and Liqour2 where it seems this stuff isnt that serious vs the AI.

Damn, that post euro war Poland is one of the most disgusting Polands I've seen. I must make them whole again

>>2127882
Poland's correct borders:

>>2126888
I don't know if I ever will be able to take them seriously after the missing NSM cooler incident

>>2127924
Qrd on the missing cooler? People keep mentioning it.

>>2127941
>THE NSMOBILE
This is fake, but fuck do I wish it was real.

>>2127112
YEAH, MOONCRICKET UH
RAPOCALYPSE!!!!

>>2127941
This is so fucking funny. How did the TFRetards miss out on this pure GOLD? This better be in the rework. Also please tell me that the NSMobile is real and that there are pictures of it.

>>2127953
no it's real, it was posted to an NSM telegram channel or something

>>2127896
Are you a German or a Russian?

>>2128009
Neither, I'm just joking around.

>>2128001
>How did the TFRetards miss out on this pure GOLD?
tbf it only happened like 5 or 6 months ago iirc, well after the mod's release

>>2127112
ameera looks like she only fucks white men

>>2128013
So do Jolene and Jaqueline.

>>2128012
They are forgiven.

>>2128013
>All girls in the radical black tag are bleaching material
>All girls in the confederate tag will be blacked material
>The war over the deep south is actually just to determine whose creepy raceplay fetish triumphs

>>2128025
you forgot one
>all girls in the atomwaffen bunker are trans
>the white race dies out in darkness

>>2128026
The only woman depicted in atomwaffen is a cis one.

which APLA route is the most kino?

>>2128032
Anarchists are my favorite APLA path, Jacobins are kino as well.

>>2128005
>it's real
fuck me

>>2123724
The G36 is/was a bad rifle.
>polymer trunnion
>incapable of mounting IR lasers because the handguard doesn’t hold zero
>melts
>>2123739
May we see these reports? Exit wounds from m193 are devastating, and I’m sure they are even worse with modern mk262 loads.

I really wish there were less mods about schizo politics and more mods about schizo weaponry. I shouldn't have to rely on bronies and falloutfags for this.

>>2128041
TNO used to have lots of fun schizo weaponry with Goering's sun gun and the Liger super heavy. You also had a laser tank in Komi. They stopped entirely with that but since the Redux allowed you go equip your soldiers with portable chemical weapons so maybe there's hope for that one.

>>2128040
>Exit wounds from m193 are devastating, and I’m sure they are even worse with modern mk262 loads
I remember a dude in the Black Hawk Down book complaining about overpenetration. Maybe they fixed things since the mid 90s.

Doing Fall Johan now and the feeling of resurgence is glorious. Do any nations in TFR ever update their templates? I wasn't expecting must resistance from the Nordic nations but I compared stats and the difference was by a factor of about 4.

Can someone explain to me the drama of trf?

>>2128258
Trf?

>>2128265
I meant the fire rises.

>>2128266
Are you asking about the Czar stuff from a while back?

>>2128269
Yes.

>>2128277
>Started booting devs and lead devs from the team and replacing them with his incompetent but loyal friends who'd add whatever dogshit idea he came up with
>Eventually it reached a point of no return and the ENG, CN, and RUS teams walked
>Only team that was in his corner was the MENA team which was staffed entirely of his retarded friends who were producing absolute dogshit
>The overwhelming majority of the mod team who walked announced they were doing a fork of the mod called The Fire Rises: The Original Recipe and opened a new discord
>But in the end they got the original mods workshop page back and didn't have to make a fork
>During all of this Czar was larping as Light Yagami in discord DMs
>At some point he started doing some satanist larp and ended up pissing off actual satanic neo nazis who doxxed him
This is a really scuffed explanation about what went down, if you want more details/a better explanation I'd check the archives and read the threads when this was all going down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz8vkPVqiL8&ab_channel=Dogus47

>>2128289
The Satanist LARP where he and his friends tried to curse the actual devs is still the funniest thing in the world to me.

>>2128349
Is that him?

onwards to Beijing #ExChina :D

>>2128409
He may be a living meme, but he has a happy personality that makes you want to cheer for him and his projects, insane as they may be.

>>2128405
Looks breedable

>>2128409
I'm happy to hear that he had a good day but what made it so special?

>>2128416
This. I disagree with him on just about everything but he's such a cheerful, positive and joyful fellow that I just want to smile with him.

>>2128461
He got to go bouncing on the trampoline.

Didn't know gunther had his own war superevent. https://files.catbox.moe/19k7vd.mp4

>>2128461
>I'm happy to hear that he had a good day but what made it so special?
I think he's referring to his birthday post, it was full of comments sending him well-wishes.

>>2128547
I can't believe I missed his birthday! I'll make sure to wish him a happy birthday twice as cheerfully next year to make up for it! :D

If I research the first "This is dangerous" AI tech will anything happen to me?

>>2128600
Nothing

>>2128640
I hope you're not lying to me. Things are finally looking up for Germany.

>>2128657
You get an event for the second one but it also does nothing

>>2128834
Yep, this is cancer.

>>2128834
>Andrew Hussie

>>2128538
yeah, he has a unique victory super event as well

>>2128928
>Be the only person in the world insane enough to think that HOI4 Balkanizations are real life
>Get your own route
This guy's such a fucking meme lmao I love it.

>>2128935
Are you retarded? Pretty much every liberal defends balkanizations. Dividing big countries into smaller ones is the best way to economically exploit those countries. Bonus points if you can spark regional/ethnic conflicts to have an excuse to keep troops there.

>>2128948
Yeah but usually the people doing it are mentally ill Redditors and random-ass retards. Fehlinger's one of the few that's really in your face about it.

What happens to Ronnie McNutt in TFR?

>>2128948
The cases that people accept usually have precedent. Like in the case of the actual Balkans, the idea of those independent nation states existed in some form. The breaking up Russia maps are the equivalent of taking a map of US states and merging groups of 2-3 states at random. It's basically a map you would see on Reddit.

>>2129050
Postpones suicide to have mindblowing adventures during the civil war

>>2129239
True it'd be like if picrel was a serious proposal instead of a random person's shitpost on Telegram.

>>2129245
>Republic of BLM
kek

>>2129245
>republic of Pennsylvania
Actually this map is based and is what should happen.
>northern cuba
>republic of Liberia
lol

>>2129245
>no independent South Jersey
Bros.... we'll never be free from the northern menace. Also, New Sweden was along the Delaware in Southern NJ. It is South Jersey's history only. You can see this in the names of towns such as Swedesboro.

>>2129050
A video is posted online showing him blowing someone else's brains all over the wall.

Which Equestria at war nation is most like Israel?

Whats important thing for you in a mod?

>>2129344
Fun and balanced wars.
No serious downtime.

>>2129329
That insectoid cunt in Zebrica or whatever it was called, make sure to have the civil war in Equestria not fire so that you can go the independence route.

Wowee, we’re on TV!

>>2129408
Hey that's neat. A few weeks back the TNO thread was featured! Nice to see out humble board get the spotlight!

>>2129406
The Militarchy? Where in Zebrica is it?

These fucking faggots had 8 years to prepare for this war and they're still fielding templates that have a sixth of the stats the Russians have. Fucking Italians.

>>2129344
Flavor

Spent all that time to get to let Russia defeat me for Schaub, closed the game and went to bed to play Klaus later.
Hop on today and the game crashes whenever I unpause time.

>>2129466
Northwest, the extremists with not!SS clothing running what is essentially North Korea. They're right next to a whole bunch of countries with playable content.

>>2129344
Good loc, lots of flavor and accurate characterizations.

I like the OC characters. I've seen people bitch that there aren't real characters in those positions but they make sense. After 10 years of brutal continent-wide war you'd definitely have unknowns breaking into important positions.

>>2129468
>expecting Italy to do anything

>(special project overhaul is nearly done)
>Fairfax
ZAMN! Deadlock reference!?

>>2129604
>World War 7
>Germany allies with Italy
They're incapable of learning

What lesser known mods are worth checking out?

>>2129606
Sex with Ivy.
That is all.

>>2129770
Based.

>>2129245
I want to live in the timeline where this becomes reality

>>2129606
>>2129774
Please post about a good Deadlock next time, thanks.

>>2129811
>Holocaust Cannon

>>2129774
What even is that

>>2129685
EYWOR or Sheep's mod.

>>2129565
You're fucking retarded. It's not that they're unknown, IT'S THAT THEY DON'T FUCKING EXIST. TFR markets itself as an alternative history mod which means it's the same universe as ours but something different happened. Bringing in OCs completely destroys the suspension of disbelief because now it's another universe that has nothing to do with our world which feels like a gut punch because everything led us to believe otherwise. It's like writing a serious autobiography only to introduce magic at the end.

>>2128834
>>2124700
Who keeps making these shit?!

>>2130040
>AI Biden is very realistic and immersive.
>Two instances of anonymous soldiers seizing power after a country lost WW3? Sorry but my immersion is broken. :(

>>2130043
Never give realismfags an inch, they'll take a mile.

>>2130043
Are you genuinely braindead or just pretending? Here's an ai google result
>An alternate timeline is a divergent path within the same universe, stemming from a single event that changed history, while an alternate universe is a completely separate, distinct reality that may have fundamentally different laws of physics or historical foundations. Think of it like a branching river: a timeline is a different course the water took after a fork, but a universe is an entirely new body of water.

>>2130049
The absolutely pathetic cope of asking an AI and using this non sequitur to play rules lawyer. Hey guess what? The TFR devs made the mod, not you and thank God for that. And they decided that they wanted less than a percentage of their major characters to be original, anonymous military men that rise up in the aftermath of WW3. What's wrong with that?
>Muh technicality muh genre muh AI generated answer
It's fine to include these if it's done sparingly (which it is) and is given an in-universe justification. In this case, the national catastrophe of losing WW3 against Russia. Cope and seethe, autist.

>>2130069
I'm educating you on a difference between alternative timeline and alternative universe. If you're too retarded to grasp this simple concept then you shouldn't reply to me at all.
>What's wrong with that?
I already said. The mod marketed itself as an alternate timeline (what if irl but covid stronger and people more radical) but instead it's an alternate universe that has non-existent people which goes against everything that has been promised. When you're making a story it needs to be internally consistent and have a set of rules that it follows to be more believable. Tfr broke it's own rules for no good reason and in doing so shattered players trust.
I know that you aren't going to engage with anything I said because you're unironically braindead shill. I'm writing this for others to see

>>2130083
You're just being a retarded, autistic faggot. Fuck off with your whining and stop being a disingenuous rules lawyer.

>>2130040
Lafayette does exist but that's not his real name and you don't know what he looks like.

>>2130049
>Here's an ai google result
Do people actually take the AI results seriously? I've had it give me verifiably false information multiple times. Blatant to the point where it's taking a statement from the first link and adding "not" in front of it for some reason.

>>2130083
How deep on the spectrum are you, anon?

>>2130043
>>2130048
I have an idea for the new TFR update. Instead of the first Euro war, nothing happens when Russia invades Ukraine. They get bogged down during the invasion, there's no NATO intervention, and while some support is given it ultimately does not escalate. Also we need to get rid of the US civil war that's ludicrous to the point of fantasy. Biden will win then election then Trump will win after that.
>>2130090
It's less coherent than actual schizos I've had to talk to.

>>2130087
That's not what people are saying. Can you provide some proof to your claim? I checked on discord and found nothing

>>2130093
>I checked on discord

>>2130049
>I asked the Google botnet AI and it agrees with me
>>2130093
>I did a ctrl-f on my gooncord, checkmate

This is the dumbest man on /vst/ and he'll never be a woman.

>>2130089
Here's your answer >>2130093

>>2130096
>>2130097
>>2130099
>Lose an argument
>Start flaunting like a clown
Looks like I've hit a nerve

>>2130101
What argument? You're doing retarded semantics and claiming TFR is actually an alternate universe because two masked military men who don't use their real names can take power after the EU loses WW3 to commies.

>>2130102
Having OC's makes it impossible to be anything else than alternate universe. If you're too retarded to understand that then I can't help you

>>2130101
>Lose an argument
What's the argument? It was a joke, which is why I said you're autistic.
>claiming he exists because you can't see his face and his name sounds fake so it could be anyone
It's glaringly obvious

>>2130109
But they're not OCs, they're just people wearing masks using aliases.

>>2130049
>Here's an ai google result
Here's another AI google result that contradicts you. I really don't give a fuck about the distinction but it's astounding that people will legitimately post the google AI blurbs as evidence of everything.

>>2130040
Mate you can have Nick Land lead a warlord state in China, settle down with the realism autism

>>2130049
WEAR A HELMET TARD

>>2130101
You're the retard that used AI and Discord as sources for your arguments demanding realism reworks to TFR, lol.

Is Equestria at war actually good? I don't care about MLP so that won't influence my enjoyment. I've always heard it as an example of a good total overhaul but never tried it out.

>>2130113
>Hurr durr what's wrong with OC's
>They're not oc's they're just le heckin real people with no names in masks 24/7 that totally exist and weren't pulled out of my ass
Get your story straight. I was responding to this at the start. >>2129565
>>2130116
A really convenient way for retards to refuse to engage with anything is to attack the source and not the thing that's being said. It doesn't really matter whether it's ai or a book or an article since they all say the same thing which you conveniently ignore since you can't say anything real and are here to throw shit like a sub 60 IQ monkey.
>>2130118
Is Nick Land an OC you dumb fuck?

>>2130136
>Is Nick Land an OC you dumb fuck?
No but a masked officer taking over is more realistic than Land taking over China or AI Biden ruling America so you're still mentally ill for whining about realism and immersion. Also nice cope with how you backpedal and get aggro when the ace up your sleeve - asking fucking google ai lmao - is used against you.

>>2130138
No it's not, non-existent people taking over is not more realistic than real people coming to power. Good attempt at ragebait though

>>2130142
They exist, you're just not well-versed enough in the lore and even admitted to being a tourist and that your research consisted of skimming a Discord: >>2130093

>>2130136
>It doesn't really matter whether it's ai or a book or an article since they all say the same
The validity of sources does matter. AI chops bits out of various sources with varying levels of integrity. It also sometimes negates statements it pulls from articles for seemingly no reason. The picture you're replying to has Google AI saying that OC does not disqualify media from being an alternate timeline. If it is an actual valid source then you should admit you were wrong instead of deflecting.

>>2130069
What are the conditions for getting Lafayette in France? They're right wing in my game but have a general as the leader. We're mid 2nd Euro War. Also I didn't realize that they still use those Kepi hats.

>>2130144
>They exist
Do unicorns and fairies also exist you dumb fuck?
>>2130148
Except I wasn't presenting any sources. I gave AI overview because I can't be bothered to educate retards about basics like difference between timeline and AU. Since you're too retarded to engage with anything I actually said then I shouldn't be bothered to engage with you either.

>>2130142
Do you have some sort of autism that prevents you from engaging in abstract thought? The 'OCs' are real people wearing masks and using pseudonyms. Are you just seething because Lafayette doesn't get unmasked or something?

>>2130149
>Lose to CPRF Russia in the 1EW
>Don't let fascists into the government
>Max out the right side of the BoP
Enjoy restoring the Frankish people, just like Charlemagne would have wanted. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eaot8iYxL_I&t=24s&ab_channel=Alexander

>>2130152
No, but Lafayette does. It's not our fault you're so lazy and stupid. Again: your research was to lazily look at Discord and you never engaged with the content. Stop coping and angrily deflecting, dummy.

>>2130160
It's like how niggers can't understand the smoke detector is beeping because the battery is low.

>>2129565
I think they should try to stick to real figures when they can, but I'm cool with them using OCs since I like the OCs they've come up with and the idea that most of them are total nobodies who were able to rise to power due to the chaos going on and instability in their governments.

Gunther Fehlinger needs YOU

>>2130166
Rädelsführer is the coolest. Gas masks are the best

>>2130177
If you're strong enough to rip a phonebook into pieces then you're strong enough to rip a Russian Federation into pieces.

>>2130152
>Do unicorns and fairies also exist you dumb fuck?
Yes, my source, Fianna Cycles

anyone else feel that current mods are overproduced? i don't want 4 different systems to juggle.

>>2130006
Sex creature.

>>2130216
It's a result of TNO ruining modding for a few years. While they were popular, they set a sad trend of adding many overcomplicated and broken minigames which other mods followed. However, we've thankfully seeing an end to that. Red Dusk came out with very little of that and was moderately successful and then TFR really kicked the door down and returned the trend to gameplay. TNO Requiem and Rises Again, the two major Reduxes of the mod, are also going in full on gameplay. Requiem in particular is notorious for having been in dev hell until earlier in the year when a new tag lead took over Omsk and threw out all their minigame plans.

Nature is healing. The time of Denmark GUIs is over.
Meanwhile fucking TNO is replacing all its African content with more minigames, lmao.

>>2130222
New York focus tree that's just one big Deadlock reference in TFR when?

>>2130224
I can't fucking wait for more Deadlock.

I decided to finish up my pf campaign with post war stuff as well as send volunteers to other conflicts
>Post war tree sucks and it's buggy. If you are planning to have an acw campaign, feel free to skip on it till 1.1 drops
>Fighting against canada is cancer since they have 0% capitulation limit
>Lack of naval advisers sucks donkey balls
>PF, despite being one of the stronger factions, has next to no attack buffs. Or at least the focuses I picked didn't
>Gunther tried going against medvedev and declared war on what feels like half the world. However, half the nations didn't field divisions/didn't put them on frontline. Maybe it has something to do with military access
>However, Russians, Iranians, Libyans, UK, Greece and America, among others, fighting together goes hard
>By the end tag switched to Russia so I could properly carve Europe. Unfortunately you can't liberate countries

>>2130235
Post 2ACW content is placeholder/generic with the exception of Caligula Biden and AWD. I heard all the tags with content are getting unique post 2ACW content in 1.1, but I have no idea if that's true.

>>2130237
nayrt but late game Caligula is really busted too. But it's unique since you can go to war with the entire world.

>>2130239
Yeah his post 2ACW content is scuffed and definitely needs work, but it is playable.

I was really disappointed with some of the ACW tags, especially APLA. The APLA is just so fucking boring.

>>2130243
Anarchist and Jacobin APLA are fun imqho.

>>2130237
Yeah, I know so I don't complain too much
>>2130239
>Go to war with the entire world
You mean unlock justifying? I'm pretty sure it's not unique to him

Anyone else thinks the National syndicalist people's Germany is fairly underwhelming?

>>2130235
>Fighting against canada is cancer since they have 0% capitulation limit
lol I was wondering why it was still listing them at war despite me not seeing Canada anywhere on the map. Any date for when 1.1 is coming out? Only played one game so far but I don't want to start a new one if my save is going to get broken

>>2130260
We don't have a date yet but it's not for a bit, we know we're getting at least one more medium sized update before 1.1.

>>2130248
Not only that, but if you go with AI Biden then after you defeat the AI core meltdown rebellion and take the final focus, every country in the world will start to declare war on you because America is being run my a genocidal rogue AI. Countries just start declaring war on you in groups once a month. I quit since it didn't seem like fun but I'm guessing that you could probably play out a full world conquest. Definitely a very memorable route even if it has lots of technical flaws and shortcomings.

>>2130215
Loji vs Ani

>replacing a better more clearer portrait with a shittier one where shadow covers half of it
They should stop wasting time on pointless pissing and actually release Austria and Germany already

>>2129565
OCs are fine if they are properly introduced over a long period of time, like Lafayette is

Recently replaced China during the Great Asian War and have to say it's by far the peak experience of TFR, especially to see the culmination of geostrategy pay off over the course of the entire playthrough. One thing that especially stood out to me is how important diplomacy is to setting up your position for the GAW, especially in the alliance building "great game". It both opens and closes new fronts and can make an incredible difference in how you go about the war.

One thing that would be cool to see is this dynamic applied to the other major conflict, the second European war, especially in regard to opening new fronts with diplomacy. Pivotal nations like Turkiye, Cyprus, Tunisia, Finland, Iceland, Serbia, should all be up for grabs for either faction, and it should take serious effort to flip them to your side. Imagine going full arctic as Russia, aligning with both Finland and Iceland so that you can do a full east and west coast invasion of Scandinavia as your opening move; or losing Greece and Turkiye as the EU but keeping Cyprus as a pivotal air and naval base to win back the Mediterranean. Would open up so many more strategic options and replayability, and probably wouldn't be that difficult to port the code over from the EADI/PDTO mechanic. Have less things in Europe be on rails, and give it larger geostrategic dynamicity

Another interesting idea is to have Canada adopt whatever ideology is opposite to the ACW winner, and have a slow buildup to a North American War. Only have the US Naval faction rejoin ACG or UOA and have them ally with Canada in any other scenario. Canadian expansion tree for ACW where they can take Greenland and Iceland, maybe even occupy Alaska. Have the ACW winner and Canada compete for influence over the Mexican civil war, and the other Caribbean nations, maybe add a US Navy x Cuba war for shits and giggles. Have Central America and Venezuela be influencable too. Have it all build up to a giant Continental war with large Caribbean battles, naval invasion, sneak attacks, and all the other good stuff we love from the GAW

>>2130259
there was a leak on here a while back that said III. Weg and NPD are getting an update at some point

>>2130353
This sounds like a fun idea.

Great African War also needs to happen. Have two potential blocs made out of allying alliances

Sahel vs ECOMOG
Jamahiryah vs Neo-Pharaoh
East African Federation (run by Rwanda) vs Congo faction
Capitalist/Neocolonial South vs Anti colonial South

So Sahel, Libya, EAD, and EFF/Angola vs ECOMOG, Egypt, Congo, and Cape Republic, but as a single continental war

>>2130359
True, Africa does get a little bit too peaceful at a certain point in the mod.

>>2130358
ACW winner and result
>UOA >Russia/CSTO aligned Canada
>ACG >EU/Ultraliberal Canada (mechatrudeau)
>APLA >Libertarian Canada
>PF/NSM >Militant Socdem Canada (China aligned?)
>ATW > same as before
>Cascadia/separatists >expansionist North American Union Canada

>>2130350
GAW is the most fun theatre gameplay wise, but if you want to play an interesting path you can only play China. Japan desperately needs a focus tree expansion and both Australia and India need focus trees to balance out China always winning.

>>2130367
I totally agree. GAW is by far the most interesting major conflict in TFR so far

Am I the only one whose favorite conflict in TFR is the 2ACW?

>>2130395
There's less actual buildup you can do so it has less playability than say russia where you can specialize into a massive infantry army one game or 50 width tank doomstacks in another

>>2130407
*re-playability

>>2130339
The KX githup has WIP versions of the Germany and KX updates.

Germany: https://github.com/JoeBidenWhatAreYouHiding/kx/tree/degurechaff-gaming

Austria: https://github.com/JoeBidenWhatAreYouHiding/kx/tree/eduard-von-habsburg-appreciation-club-texas

>>2130407
Fix ACW

>have regions break off one at a time, story events detailing the conflicts in each, to avoid massive lag
>start with just UOA vs ACG, with regional constitutionalists vs federalists
>secessionist groups start breaking off three months into the war
>radical groups break off six months into it (or have it be a function of "legitimate" faction stability rating like the larger UOA breakup event)
>radical factions can all sign temporary ceasefires with each other while legitimate factions still exist
>allow naval content + invasions
>cartel military access treaties
>cartel war spillover / coring aztlan

>

>>2130040
By your retarded ass definition, Hitler would be considered a OC.

>wtf??? some guy that looks like charlie chaplin takes over germany, gets rid of the kaisar and replaces the flag with a buddhist symbol?? this alt hist is fucking retarded lmao

>>2130361
These go pretty hard anon. Lolbert Canada turning all of America into giga Alberta and proving itself to be the better Texas? TrudeAI mecha? Expansionist Canada going full 1812? These are great. Only one that feels a bit tame is the militant SocDem but you could make it work.

>>2130395
It's definitely my favorite too. Lots of replay value and variety and even if 1 year of buildup is a bit thin it's better than five for everyone else.

>>2130415
A slower rollout of breakups, naval warfare and interactions with Mexico would improve it a lot. Surprised there is zero navy content for any tag. Give me back my navy once I beat the naval command and let me fight China!

>>2130361
>Ultralib Canada turning America into India 2 after conquering it
Nightmarish kino.

>>2130415
This does sound better, but imho it's too much work. If pre-acw content is to change maybe you can alter your initial states
>>2130353
Come on, no way US is losing to fucking Canada
>>2130350
Good idea. Flipping critical nations for 2ew would sound great. For example, in my last game fascists won in Portugal while Commies won in Spain. Russia and EU should try to win them over

>>2130109
Why do you care about this so much lmao
>>2130204
Based!

>>2130453
Maybe with EU as well? You know they would

>>2130350
Beating China feels like the most earned win ever. Even with a huge majority of Asia in your faction and victorious India it can all go wrong because China has over a thousand divs.

>>2130415
I think it should happen a lot more fast like in extremis ultimis where the major factions/states break off first with minor factions then taking over the territory of the states/fully taking taking them. EX pretty much has it all happen over 1 and a half months with an event each week explaining why a new faction broke off before they all start fighting.

>>2130621
You could have some of that happen during what's currently the downtime while Trump/Biden do their intro focuses. I know that they're doing new trees for the unifiers, so maybe tags like AWD and PF could just spawn in a single city somewhere to let them set things up before the big outbreak in every region. Having a hundred tags spawn in at once really does capture the KX feel but I could do without that one.

>>2130709
the feeling of the 2ACW should be escalating crises. even just ACG vs UOA is a world historical event. should be well into the conflict before you get weird or unpopular groups like ATW having any impact. Let the escalation and intensity of the conflict be the catalyzing agent for the rise of the extremist groups