>>534437583
>It was for this reason that, according to him, the soul while in the body acquires perceptions and knowledge by corporeal contact, and that it is affected by heat and cold. The sensuous perceptions themselves were to him affections of the organ or of the subject perceiving, dependent on the changes of bodily condition, on the difference of the organs and their quality, on air and light. Hence the differences, e. g., of taste, color, and temperature, are only conventional,[50] the real cause of those differences being in the atoms.

>>716093935
That's why we need a backup plan.

>>530807885
it's broken free, turn off your pc now

>>713777920
I still firmly believe that you're intended to do it, since it's hinted towards and referred to as "B side"
The real question is what the player's motivation to do it is
>Break the prophecy and find a new ending
>Revenge for being betrayed
>FREEDOM
There will be an incentive by the end of the game, you will feel cheated in some way

>>528763514
i am 100% on the train of thought now that we are gonna get exactly one chapter per year (and this will continue past 7 for at least one or two years)

...Toby, please.

>>713584706
>>713585037
>>713585263
This was a very good write up and put into words the jumbled mess of thoughts I have so far too

Normal Route is using you to end things with minimal resistance and not straying far from the prophecy because Kris/Ralsei's motivations, you really are a tool to be used by them in a way that doesn't rock the boat too much

Susie, as you mentioned, is key to changing things just like Noelle
Getting there though? good fucking luck, Kris is going to stand in your way at every step to fulfill his goals, maybe even Ralsei too
That being said it really could backfire, she would loop things over and over to live the story and never move on

Noelle is the most interesting, and "weird"...of the bunch
She would let you break beyond the bounds of what a normal playthrough would let you do, but it feels wrong even if she's on the same page as you
This is very clearly setting up a way to test what you can learn outside of the predetermined A-B path
What's very interesting to me is that not at any point does Gaster stop you or comment on Snowgrave as you're doing it
Gaster not getting involved is leading me to believe that Toby is NOT going to write the same story a different way and genocide you, it's going to be quite different with its relation to the theme of FREEDOM and be pivotal to breaking the game's set path

TL;DR the player is being used as a tool and lead upon a set path

>>713473523
>I'm crashing this reality with no survivors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFjHWw_w91Q

>>713407479
>not knowing Nubert

I
AM
IN
(YOU)R
[[WALLS]]

>>713364207
Look, I don't want a tragic bittersweet ending as much as I don't want a happy ending. We've been waiting years for this game to unveil, I simply want the ending to be Interesting. Preferably with an optimistic tone, but it's ultimately up to Toby.

>kris was always a soulless little cunt
>canonically a mumbling socially inept retard
>played malicious pranks on those around him all the time
>started hanging out with the big kids through asriel
>crushed on dess because she was the qt tomboy next door
>killed her in the woods with his Real Knife™ by accident while fucking around
>holiday family goes to shit
>gets into occultist shit
>stole vessel's soul
>creates dark world to revive dess
>something goes wrong
>asgore stumbles upon dark world and dess
>everyone thinks he's nuts
>dreemurr family goes to shit

>>527273303
t.