>show a commonly used symbolism for losing one's virginity that's used in countless conventional medias for ages in a situation where it makes sense for Noelle to lose her virginity
>well ackually guys it's just the thorn ring animations lol there's definitely no secks hahahaha
Is tobias foxx retarded?

>>712487936 (OP)
>Is tobias foxx retarded?
yes. that's literally why it was changed.

>>712488459
backpedaled on his changed too, so that makes him a double retar

>>712488551
Wdym?

>>712487936 (OP)
what the fuck is a commonly used symbolim for losing one's virginity? it seems like something a virgin would pick up on since I really doubt it's commonly used if at all.

>>712488551
>backpedaled on his change
did he restore the rose? I'm not seeing it in the change notes...

>>712489015
a wilting rose.

>>712489047
>a wilting rose.
Oh. I thought it was more like a plucked rose. wilting rose seems retarded desu.

>>712488654
>>712489047

>>712489047
That's retarded, do you think the Beast from beauty and the beast was losing his virginity? What retarded idiot would say that?

>>712489710
It's about the specific way it wilts

>>712488654
>>712489047
first he changed the flower to a red dot, then changed it back to the flower "shattering" in the screen with a fleshy sound

>>712489015
there's a whole word dedicated to it
deflowering

>>712487936 (OP)
God I love furry porn

>Toby was so retarded he didn't realize that it would look like a rape scene
I guess it makes sense that the Homestuck guy would be too autistic to see it, but wew.

>>712490349
That's not a backpedal

while there is no definite proof that the rape occurred, there is also no definite proof that the rape did not occur. all we have is a black screen, and context and imagery suggesting rape occurred.

>>712491021
It's quite literally up to (You).

>>712491021
If only there's a mod that replaces that black screen with an actual rape scene

>>712491021
Schrodinger 's rape

>>712490349
>then changed it back to the flower "shattering" in the screen with a fleshy sound
not really a backpedal. accomplishes the original intent without outright implying rape.

>>712490349
Isn't it a crack?

He even did it during pride month. He had the chance to be the basest dev of the decade

Dude I found this DEEP in the files. Holy fucking shit.

>>712494692
HOLY FUCKING SHIT

>>712494692
Mother of God, this explains everything.

It wasn't meant for Noelle losing her virginity, it's her losing her innocence. She thought the events of the chapter 2 weird route were a bad dream, but Kris putting the ThornRing back on her finger, the symbol of your control over her, reveals the truth: all the bad things that happened were real. Yes Noelle, you have blood on your hands. You murdered your friend on orders from your other friend. Your blissful childhood is over.

>>712487936 (OP)
i want werewires

>>712494692
I wish I hadn't opened this, now I'm going to be up thinking about fan theories all night.

was really hard to say "No, it isn't that, it means this."

>>712494952
you think he just looked up "symbolism for losing innocence" and made this oopsie because he skimmed the part about the flower symbolizing sexuality and deflowering?

>Doegrees of Lewdity

>>712487936 (OP)
There was no way the scene wasn't meant to be a rape analogue. In fact, if it wasn't intentional, and he never noticed it, and nobody he had play the game noticed it, then Toby and his friends are all completely fucking retarded.

>>712495221
>Toby and his friends are all completely fucking retarded
Was this ever in question?

The scene was changed again? Link?

>>712495140
ok this one is perfect

>>712495221
>>712495340
Someone yesterday was trying to tell me everything he does is genius and deliberate lmfao

>>712495124
I don't think so, because a flower is not a commonly used symbol to represent lost innocence. Besides "deflowering" (a word that literally only mean a woman losing their virginity and does not potentially pertain to anything else), wilting or dead flowers are used as a symbol for death or the fragility of life. If he googled "what's a symbol for lost innocence" he'd probably find butterflies or doves or something.

>>712487936 (OP)
Either he deliberately kept it in for a day for clout, or it's just his autism hyperfixating on it "metaphorically" symbolizing her no longer having her innocence and not realizing half the entire fandom would make endless rape jokes.

>>712495486
It's a web of cracks now like shattering glass.

i think the original graphics are his true vision, but it's current year and you aren't allowed to portray villains as villains so he's pretending that it was accidental placeholder graphics to dodge scrutiny from retards that would have his head for a single infraction

>>712496178
>you aren't allowed to portray villains as villains
I'd think it would be more having the child player character suddenly be a rapist, Anon.

rape is pretty out of place

>>712496339
yeah he's a villain as far as we know

>>712494692
Thanks for spoiling it
Wait's going to be even more unbearable now isn't it

>>712491485
theevilfallen animation when?

>>712496178
>you aren't allowed to portray villains as villains
Weird way to talk about raping a teenage girl

>>712496339
>>712496506
It isn't Kris doing that, technically. It's the SOUL controlling them doing it.

>>712494692
Bravo tobias. The ride never ends does it?

>>712494692
Wow.

>>712495221
The whole Weird Route so far is an analogue to forced shipping and the twisting of a story for personal pleasure, it's really not surprising the moment (You) fully turn Noelle into your slave is symbolized with the rape-rose. Toby and his sperg gang however severely underestimated the gravity of what they were doing if they seriously thought this wouldn't result in a fandom explosion of "omg did he ACTUALLY fuck her?!?!" hysteria.

>>712496178
Honestly I think he just snuck it in there to get past Nintendo/ESRB. Then when it was found out, he changed it to appease em. Seems like a Toby move

>>712496178
>>712498145
If this honestly ends up being the truth then I applaud him for at least getting it out there.

>>712494692
KINOOOOOOOOOOO

>>712489710
lol honestly true

>>712494692
Will he be in canto 9?

>>712494692
Oh. My. Fucking. GOD. TOBY FIX YOUR PIPES.
pipes...

>>712498145
i completely forgot this was also on console, that's probably the real reason

>>712494692
TOBY-SAMA I FUCKING KNEEL

It really is hilarious how people applauded Doe Rape for being edgy and then immediately got traumatized by the Mom Befriending mere minutes after.

Dess taught Kris to play the piano
Dess taught Kris to play the guitar
Dess taught Kris to eat moss
Dess taught Kris about sex

https://live.tiermaker.com/25354722

>>712487936 (OP)
>in a situation where it makes sense for Noelle to lose her virginity
That would not have made sense.

>>712500069
What in god's name is a "vers top"

>>712500417
probably means versatile, like a top willing to do bottom-y things. just general sexpest stuff, adding labels to things that don't need them

>>712500417
Top who can either be submissive or dominant.

>>712494692
AIEEEEEE WTF TOBYYYYYY

Did Kris summon the darkness that swallowed Dess or (You) with his demon summoning shit?

Hey so what the fuck is this stat and why is it so high?

>>712490349
You saw an edit that put the two animations together

>>712501191
You need to close the game now.

>>712493580
also looks like stems with thorns

>>712501191
ralsei sex counter

We might not have been fighting the real Knight

>>712487936 (OP)

>>712494692
OH MY FUCKING GOD SO THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS?!??!

>>712501274
>>712501367
It's in my pacifist save too not just my weird one. Is this Trance or something?

>>712500002
It's only ok when (We) do it

tranny game

>>712494692
Go fuck yourself with a rake. Toby will 100% cancel the game over this getting out.

>>712501416
>rose
>noelle and kris horrified
Aged like fine wine

>>712494692
Jesus, this changes everything

>>712494692
lovely

Reminder that the code is broken completely.

>>712494692
WHAT?
That doesn't make ANY sense!

>>712501829
Don't forget what Ralsei said about "taking pain in your place."
THAT IS LITERALLY THE PURPOSE OF THE TEDDY BEAR. You hold it and it absorbs the damage intended for you.

>imagery is the same as something literally happening
You people are genuinely retarded.

>>712494692
thats fucking fake no way he'd actually leave that in the code lmao

>>712501191
>>712501560
That's your kill count, anon

>>712500000

>>712501983
>Just because I said WORDS doesn't mean I meant you to think of the thing those WORDS MEAN

>>712494692

>>712502132
the problem is they keep using humans instead of cute boss monsters

>>712494692
Can't believe his connections let him get away with this.

>>712501829
If this is true, than that means she made the Youtown dark fountain. What the hell are these people planning?

>>712494692
I fucking knew that Pippins was a hint TOBY YOU HACK.

>>712494692
HOW THE FUCK DID NO ONE FIND THIS UNTIL NOW

>>712500056
goth doe...

>>712494692
>almost a decade of theory instantly annihilated by this one (1) tidbit

>>712500056
Dess taught Kris to rape

>Deltarune text dump was just updated
>adds feature that specifically benefits 4chan users
Is it made by /ourguy/?

>>712494692
I FUCKING KNEW IT
AND YOU FUCKERS DIDN'T BELIEVE ME

>>712494692
Interesting.

There's a lot of hypocrisy of people wanting mature themes in video games but it can't go too far because reasons. This proven by a recent debate over it in Star Wars Andor episode of a similar scene. People vehemently defended it as necessary because "It's realistic. Grow up!" as they insult you for being mad over it. Do that same thing in the game and it's "Think of the children. Change it!" even if it's far less graphic compared to the movie or tv version. There's a really strange double standard and only applies during that moment and never anything similar that happens in any other medium. It's just so inconsistent that it's truly baffling that I'm not sure what people want from their entertainment.

>>712503089
The meme arrow has been used for quoting since before Usenet, anon

>>712494692
WOODYKEKS NOT LIKE THIS

>>712503159
>"Think of the children. Change it!"
has anyone seriously done this for deltarune though? I'm pretty sure almost all of the arguments are just about interpretation and not the content itself.

Why is Toby forcing (YOU) to force Kris to force Noelle to kill people?

>>712494692
Holy shit was Toby /ourguy/ all along?!?

>>712503389
Forcing me?

>>712503389
but who is forcing Toby to do this to ME?

>>712503389

>>712503389
>"You seriously enjoy this?"
>>No
>"... Okay, then here's an idea."
>"Don't play it."

>>712494692
Unverifiable bullshit! I refuse to believe!

>>712496339
>the horrible heart monster that convinced a child to MURDER another child for its own entertainment suddenly does another horrible thing to that child
color me shocked. no shit acting like the monster means we are doing horrible things to these kids its funny that suddenly people are clutching pearls when not one chapter ago we convinced her to KILL her classmate or perhaps even worse encase his soul in ice and leave his body in a coma

>>712503626
Kris gonna get talk no Jutsu’d hard by Susie in a later chapter

>>712503389
because he is based and wants the players to mindbreak the doe

>>712503512
>Kris is "Chara made genocide, not me!" fag
>Susie is "why does this game shames me for self-defense?" fag
>Noelle is "actually it's a true ending" fag
Is Ralsei the only one who wouldn't play genocide, or he's the "if I wasn't intended to play it, Toby wouldn't put it in there" fag?

I'm gonna replay chapters 3 and 4 now to actually get everything. Sorry kris for deleting you but i'll make a new one <3

>>712495140
Don't associate quality like deltarune with that garbage

>>712503650
There is no equivalence between defeating an enemy in a video game and raping a teenage girl in a video game
I'm sorry if you're honestly so autistic that I had to explain this to you

99.9999% of the complaints about that scene are about the rose getting changed
It's more likely that Toby Fox changed it because of people going "RAEP XD" than anything because he lurks here all the time

>>712503626
Wait, that's actually a damn good point, anon. Coupled with this...
There's most definitely a part of Kris that enjoys this.

>>712504190
>yesterday was 4 years ago
it's true but it sounds like one of those "1980 was a century ago" memes

>>712503889
Just realized I have to fight Gerson again

>>712504190
Even if there's some satisfaction to be found in exploring, overcoming challenges and getting stronger, it's still not what Kris wants. They're clearly uncomfortable with the implications of the game (turning back to look at us when "YOU WERE USED UP" and when you kill Ralsei and Susie) and they'll actively resist you when it's time to go to the Bunker.
Even if there's a "Chara" in you you don't have to be "Chara"

>>712504346
just keep using susie heal

>>712494692
What a fucking mad lad Tobias Vulpes is, I cannot believe what he's about to make take place.

Literacy is dead

>>712503965
Jesus christ i get you hate the gamer bird but the fact we either killed him or left him frozen inside another reality with no other means of escape is not "defeating" an enemy you retard
either the shit we are doing is horrific in their "real world" or it isnt either we are murdering a high school student and "raping" another or we are "defeating an enemy" and "binding our soul" to another
its the werid route we are making Kris do horrible things and he hates it doesnt matter if you found killing the autistic video game nerd funny or not

Superboss tielist:
Knight (Mantle-less) > Knight = Jevil (pacify) > Gerson > Jevil (fight) > Spamton (Snowgrave) > Spamton

>>712494692
I don't believe it, I wouldn't put it past Toby to hide something like this as a red herring

I can feel it. Soon enough these fun threads will run the course and everyone will start to go home. It was fun while It lasted, but eventually, these threads will end.
https://youtu.be/pCF3YY9BwBs?si=d8CDWbGNia7HX8A0

>>712494692
How the fuck did toby get away with this?

>>712505208
Killing an enemy in a video game is normal
Playing out a sexual assault as the rapist in a video game is not normal
Again I'm sorry that this has to be explained to you

Toby replaced the flower because he didn't want the player to realize that Kris forcefully shoved his huge, SOUL-enhanced cock deep into every single one of Noelle's virgin holes and violently fucked her so hard she will be completely unable to think of him without wetting her panties from that point onward, with him only allowing her to get together with Susie so he can spy on and film the resulting lesbian sex.

>>712495124
Given he's changed the scene twice now because people keep grossly misinterpreting it, I'm gonna go with "yes". If it was the Soul forcing Kris to rape Noelle like people thought he wouldn't have changed it at all.

>>712497157
a villain would NEVER do that

>>712506414
I know that autists often have trouble understand norms, so I'll try to be direct
Do you think it's normal to be able to play out a rape scene in a game for children?

>>712506638
no of fucking course not I'm not contesting the normalcy of having it happen in a video game you turbonegro

>>712494692

>>712495124
i think it was more that he wanted the torn ring to be more symbolic for Noelle since shes a rose in a torn garden but with the power of the soul shes loosing the last of her pedals and becoming all torns
i think he didnt even think of the deflowering thing until the perverts got ahold of it

>be born into the world of humans
>humanity destroys you
>it breaks everything you love
>it breaks you
>then it leaves you alone
>become_misanthropic.gif
>decide to climb Mt. Ebott
>climb only to kill yourself
>to end the pain caused by your genus
>eventually
>find a bottomless pit
>breathe out a tired sigh
>jump in
>...
>only to wake up in a field of flowers
>yellow
>so bright, like the sun
>stillalive.jpeg
>turns out you jumped into the gateway to monster kingdom
>a kingdom thats been for so long buried by humanity
>by their evil
>find a new family that accepts you
>finally, a hand to touch
>a new warmth to feel
>FUCK humans
>FUCK humanity
>with monsters is my home
>with them, is my heart

>>712507089
...
>time flies by with your new-found brother
>however
>cannot forget the evils done to you
>by the very beings that are supposed to be your kin
>your family
>find about the power human souls hold
>find about how you could finally take revenge
>find about how you could burn the world as God
>EatTheFlowers.webm
>as youre sick, dying a painful death
>your last words to your brother
>asriel, i am now going to die
>you'll have to do it
>you must do it
>in my stead
>for me

>asriel refuses your wishes of murder
>he consumes your soul
>becomes like God
>he lays you to sleep into the bed of flowers
>the flowers of your enemies
>these enemies supposed to be your kin
>the human villagers think your brother to be a monster
>a monster that killed their child
>irony.gif
>the villagers shoot your brother full of arrows
>he only walks away
>full of sadness
>he lost her only sister
>your brother dies due to his wounds
>you die
>a timebending evil is born in your brothers stead
>you cease to be
>that day the underground loses its two children
>and what for?
>soon nobody remembers you
>nobody but the family VHS tape deep underground


>hundreds of years pass
>your soul grieves in the silence
>yet one day
>a child falls underground
>unto the very same bed of flowers you fell
>way back then
>you hitch-hike with his soul
>he walks trough the lands
>trough the landscapes you loved
>trough the fields of flowers
>trough the lands of monsters that brought you peace
>the lands where no humans could be found
>where your home was
>where your heart was
>at the end of his journey you gain a chance
>a small chance to tell them your something
>thus you proclaim:


>''despite everything''

>''its still you''

>>712507089
>>712507152

>>712506754
Okay so why are you pretending your argument is "you can't let bad guys be bad anymore >:( " when you know the answer is "actually it would be bad if a significant amount of people thought that this game for children had railroaded them into raping a teenage girl"

>>712491021
Absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence, it's an unknown unknown.

If I had encountered all this shit naturally, my first conclusion would never have been "this is about >rape". The depetaled rose is about stripping away everything good, and leaving only its thorns.
Yeah, you can interpret this scene however you want. Death to the author, and the doe dickers could be 100% right, but do you really think Fox would deliberately put a rape metaphor in his game?

>blocking every Noelle attempt to hang out with Susie in the festival thanks to the ring
Can't fucking wait

>>712507380
yes

>>712507306
my argument is fuck em they could have handled it, it wasn't grotesque and it could teach a lesson

>>712507232

Everyone knows the rose is just an Ib reference

>>712500417

>>712487936 (OP)
>>well ackually guys it's just the thorn ring animations lol there's definitely no secks hahahaha
he did not say this

>>712501409
This could imply when attacking the knight, we are only attacking its shadow

>>712507516
Cant wait for the blue and yellow roses in the next chapters

>>712507380
>rape scene
No
>rape metaphor
Yes

>>712507538
Holy shit, never knew I was dom top.

>>712505186

>>712507576
Obligatory Mary did nothing wrong.

>>712489015
Projecting virgin

>>712507380
Yeah the rape thing is a forced meme. A ring made out of thorns wilting its rose petals? Yeah bro must be rape.
>a flower dying
>ITS RAPE IT SYMBOLIZES RAPE
Toby removed the scene for a reason.

>>712507306
this game isn't for children, teens are the youngest demographic

>>712507751
10/10 a little closer to [Heaven]

>>712507945
>this game isn't for children

>>712507751
fucking incredible

>>712507787
>hey guys letsa be friendz ^__^
>aight im going to murder you guyyyyz O_o
I love Mary but she did everything wrong. Guertana did even more wrong though.
>lemme just create these self-conscious beings and get the fuck out
>im sure my wife of the red painting and my daughter of the yellow painting will be juuuuust fine
>enter picrel

>>712507945
if I was old enough to read about a retard getting mercy killed or the horrors of WW1+2 then they're old enough to handle what is still just an implication over an allegory. not even saying the new one is bad, definitely better for covering his ass.

>>712508018
i had my 10 year old brother play it and he couldn't get out of the tutorial zone, kept dying

>>712508317
call him a shitter

>>712507516
Screw you, now im doing a replay of Ib remake. How dare you remind me of this kino.

>>712508350
i did

>>712508553
you're a monster..

>>712508553
based, the kid needs to learn.

>>712508553
based

>>712508641

>>712508553
Goddammit anon, you are supposed to bond with him.

>>712508805
i'm trying my best but all he cares about is roblox

>>712508846
so just ruin it for him then what's the problem

>>712507089
>>712507152

>>712508934

>>712508553
good, kids should be bullied more often DESU

>>712508446
Every time I see the title screen it always looks like Ib has black sclera

>>712507751
Big kel

>secret eggs that you can collect
>mentions of acorns
>acorns and eggs can contain life
>pipis eggs are blue
>blue like the sea
>the sea is where life originated

>>712507751
>no one can refute this even if they try their best
VERY
VERY
INTERESTING

>>712494692
Tony's trick never disappoints

>>712505887
>Playing out a sexual assault as the rapist in a video game is not normal
what do you mean?

>>712509386
>the sea is where one's home planet is reflected

>>712505887
if killing is mormal then sexual assault is normal in games too, theres a bunch of games were you can do both

should I start snowgrave from chapter 1 or 2?

>>712509658
>if killing is mormal then sexual assault is normal in games too
No, that's not how this works

Whoever said I shouldn't be high when I found Jackenstein fuck you
that was the grooviest shit ever

>>712509696
Literally nothing you do in Chapter 1 matters aside from which items you pick up (mainly Jevil's item)

As much fun as it is to call Toriel a drunken whore I do think it's nice to have a complicated character with actual negative aspects of themselves.

>>712493292
>outright implying
literally figuratively

>>712509924
people don't realize how hating a character that's written to be hated is proof of good writing
toriel is a bitch for all the right reasons

>>712509760
why not? both would be morally reprehensible irl

>>712509858
but the only chapter 1 save files I have recruited everyone already

>>712494692
HOLY FUCK

is it worth getting the jevilsknife instead of the tail for weird route
my only chapter 1 saves spared him so I'd have to fight him again

>>712510608
Real life and video games are different

>>712510889
Makes the Knight fight way easier. Depends on if you're wanting to do that or not.

>>712487936 (OP)

https://vocaroo.com/1bcYpKmZttpw

>>712494692
For me, it's the Asriel route. (impossible)

>>712494692
WHAT THE [Frank Sinatra]

>>712509386

>>712488459
He is clearly on some spectrum but in all fairness, it's not so easy to decide what to do as the developer. You can't see the game objectively as everything is super obvious to you (you wrote the plot and you've played it for like 9 million hours while testing stuff), so you have to drop hints that you think are obvious, but they actually won't be to the average player. Otherwise it's real easy to make your mystery plot completely indecipherable.

In this case of course Toby made it way too obvious, as even the dumbest gorilla nigger twitch streamer barely paying attention could instantly see the meaning of a literal deflowering.

>>712494692
but i'm already the soul

>>712494692

>>712487936 (OP)
No you're just pushing a dead meme because you can't help but see everything through a porn addicted lens

Guys, there's no moss to eat in these two chapters. Where is it?

>>712512996
No idea for chapter 3 but in chapter 4 you can find moss down a long hallway once you get to the second fountain.

>>712512996
zelda minigame

>>712512996
there's the vidya moss and the sacred moss

>>712512996
>he didn't find the moss room in the zelda level
Any the REAL travesty is Bedbros getting SCREWED like Sans did to Toriel that fateful night. Nary a bed to inspect in sight and the few that are there trigger NOTHING.

>Kris held their breath...
>Kris smiled
>nothing happened
I hate this retard so much

>>712512996
In the cave in front of the waterfall on the second game board, and at the end of the window hallway that has the philosophers talking about the man with one eye and junk

>>712512996
You buffoon
the other side of the bomb door in the first zelda game, and the Egg Hallway

>>712513075
>>712513070
>>712513064
>>712513118
Oh thank god. a lot of formulas broken in these two chapters. My autism couldn't handle the lack of the moss too.

>>712506638
Huh that's odd, what game for children has them actively using swear words

>>712507380
Toby once wrote an entire rock opera about mpreg and is a known degen. I wouldn't put it past him. Besides Snowgrave was already an abusive relationship allegory, this just took it to its logical conclusion.

Sorry, i just like the idea of goat mom getting the boner. You're just mad.

At the end of Chapter 5, Rudy won't have any flowers in his room this time because of Asgore going crazy and locking himself in jail, and he'll make a joke about how he's been "deflowered."

>>712513268

>>712499259
yes

I need to unleash a Titan NOW they're sending Susie at 60% of her full potential at me

>>712510035
feels like character assassination though

The truth

>>712494692
LETS FUCKING GO

>>712513334
Just because children play games with swearing in them does not make it a childrens game. The esrb exists for a reason you faggot

>Flower animation
>They say its rape
>Red dot
>Still rape (blood)
>Shattering
>Tearing (still rape)

Listen Toby, change it to be a nuclear mushroom cloud, what are they going to say then?

>the prophecy depicts a TV screen being slashed in two
>but if we're nice Tenna survives the fight
Could that be an early sign that we're fucking with the prophecy and defying fate?

>>712494692
but I don't want to be isekaid

>>712513497
>The mushroom tip is exploding
>Still rape

>>712513458
The ESRB rated Deltarune as T for Teen due to language, and not M for Mature due to rape.

dude it's just rape lol haha

>>712513497
Just do some ice-related imagery and nobody would've questioned it.

>>712513556
Implied sexual gratuity does not make something M rated, there's PLENTY of medial that has implied sex inside of it that are not rated M
You have to be 18 years or older to post here

>>712513589

>>712513517
That doesn't change the TV screen getting slashed in the first place though. Even if you can make Tenna survive, you're still going according to the prophecy, sadly.

How do you think the actual Smash player Gerson feels about Toby making the character named after him into the coolest fucking boss in the game?

>>712513630
In fact rated t media can even show boobs and still be rated t, and have suggestive themes so long as they dont outright show it.

>>712494692
If Tobias "based" Fucks does this, I will shit my pants and kneel.

>>712513497
>change it to be a nuclear mushroom cloud
Dick ejaculating

>>712513517
The words and scenes depicted by the prophecy will happen. However, there's room for interpretation, and freedom in between the lines, where things weren't said.
Tenna is cleaved apart as prophesied no matter what, but it's possible for you to repair him afterward.
The Girl could be either Susie or Noelle. "Love" could be either love or LOVE.

>>712513598
>it's an earthbound reference.
Of course.
Of course it is an earthbound reference.

>>712494692
ANON TOBY'S IN BED WITH NINTENDO THE NINJAS ARE GOING TO GET YOU

>>712512996
>he missed the holy grey moss
retard

>>712487936 (OP)
>>712496178
>>712496339
I have only played chapter 1 when it came out. I have yet to play the other chapters.

However, my impression of this scene, based on what I've seen, is indeed an allegory for an assault of sorts. It COULD mean that something of the sort happened, or it could not, but the imagery used seemed to imply something like that, what with the flower losing it's petals and Kris moving towards Noelle and all.
Personally, I don't think anything sexual happened, since I doubt either Toby or the majority of the audience wishes to steer things towards that direction, but I believe he might have consciously made a parallel between the soul situation and assault.
>>712494692
Well, this changes things, however...

>>712494952
I don't think you can really separate those things conceptually. Sure they're not literally the same thing, but thematically virginity = innocence and innocence = virginity. If you lose one you have lost the other, and if you've lost the other you're likely to lose the other. Combine that with how many much marriage imagery is associated with the weird route and it ends having only one conclusion.

That's why people were rape posting four years ago too.

>>712494692
>in chapter 2 there was an unused sprite of susie bleeding
>people thought it wouldn't mean much because it's unused
>but susie did end up bleeding in chapter 4
This is actually going to happen too, isn't it?

>>712503512
Noelle is the true freak and no one can convince me otherwise.

>>712494952
>>712514108
It's because roses have thorns.
Removing the flower part from a rose leaves it with only the thorns.
Like how you remove the innocent parts of Noelle and leave only the painful thorns of the Thorn Ring.
Toby probably thought this would be obvious and the rape metaphor would be secondary to the direct meaning, but people had to take it literally.

>>712507714
Watching all those cartoons when playing Atomic Heart was one of the best parts of the game.

>>712489015
Have you never consumed any form of media in your life? Or heard the word "deflowering"?

>>712511020
Yeah no shit

why is it rape?
did she say no?

>>712514272
>Have you never consumed any form of media in your life
you're in a thread about deltarune/undertale and you're asking this?

>>712514301

why tf is carol calling kris at 1 in the morning
GO TO SLEEP WOMAN

>>712514449
sex with virovirokun

>write green
>post it
>it gets popular enough that the goon squad comes out of the woodworks about you misgendering Kris
In a way, I'm flattered.

>>712514475
>why would a thirsty milf call a virile young man

Gee, I have no idea, anon.

I swear you'd think deltarune was a porn game if you only knew it from looking at /v/ threads

>>712512996
>>712513228
Not only it wasn't broken, now we might even have explanation for why he eats it.
Kris looked up to Dess, Dess was into hiking, she might have taught him how to live off the land.

>>712513326
At the end of Chapter 5, there won't be any Rudy in hospital ward and Sans will make a joke about how it was de-ruded. In front of Asgore. You will see why he only has 1 HP left in Undertale

>>712514583
Just today I got some guy complaining about transphobia because of male Kris even though it's in the tags. I don't know what's up with these people.

>>712514801
bangin' porn game my man

>>712514475
It's a reference to skype voice chats where it called the whole group

>>712514642
>husband in the hospital for god knows how long
she has needs, kris.

>>712514998
It's funny how Kris has to be tagged male in any porn pictures on dark blue website, because of "tag what you see policy".

>>712514801
Toby Fox calls himself "The King of Ero-Games" for a reason.

>>712514801
Isn't that just like every game /v/ has threads about

Undertale was a kids game with a light tone
Deltarune is a more T-rated, with dark stuff happening but also light stuff
Adulteren will be a gritty, adult take on the setting, with monster prostitutes and a beaten down Kirf S. as the progatonist.

>>712514583
>TOBY HIMSELF SAID KRIS IS THEY/THEM STOP MISGENDERING THEM
not only did he not say that, he never said anything on the subject. No one ever replies when I point this out

>>712515290
the only time as when he specifically reinforced kris being they after one of the fangamer guys called him a he during the anniversary stream, but usually I think toby still goes with the self insert thing he went with frisk/chara

KISS THE MY ASS

>>712506638
>game for children

>>712515290
>TOBY HIMSELF SAID KRIS IS THEY/THEM
Toby fair, he said that, but that's literally the only thing he said on the matter aside from "Skip".

>>712504190

I don't reply to subhumans that didn't watch the anniversary stream

Am I the only one that feels like Ch 3/4 Ralsei feels like a different character from Ch 1/2 Ralsei
Like Toby got it in his head that he needs to feel 400% less creepy

>>712515352
Where's that image of Kris saying They/Them because there are two people in this mofo. That's the only reason I'd say they were a they/them if they aren't a self insert for the player.

He just needs to make another NB character to let us know what he considers and actual NB character.

>>712515352
>>712515471

He doesn't even correct them though, he just says they in reference to Kris but never went out of his way to concretely say anything about it

Can we get some cute Noelle images like this one?wanted to increase my folder

>>712514583
shit is weird bro, it's like offensive to some people, pic rel

>>712515551
Napstablook

>>712515551
remember, the original plan was for chapter 1 to be a demo and the rest of the game to come out all at once, chapter 1 toby actually avoids referring to kris with any pronoums at all
he wanted people to self insert into kris but the ending and future chapters kinda break that illusion since now it is more clear than ever kris and the player/soul are separated characters and we are just hijacking his body (people still denied that even after chapter 2 but now its undeniable)

>>712494692
Holy crackers this changes everything

>>712515581
Someone drew this in another thread

>>712515545
I feel like his character progression was completely natural. He was trying too hard to be nice in chapter 1 then in chapter 2 he began to really think about what being a friend really is about.
> * I was so nervous about first impressions.
> * I even hid my face so you wouldn't see...
> * "How do I even be a friend...?"
> * All I have to do is be nice... is what I thought.
> * But I'm starting to realize, being friends...
> * Is more than that, isn't it?
> * Susie... sometimes she isn't nice at all!
> * She's selfish, she's rude, she's sarcastic...
> * But...
> * Isn't it wonderful that she's... her?
> * Is what I... started thinking, today.
> * I just wonder what... being "Ralsei-like" even is...?
Text dump guy, if you're here, your "copy with meme arrows" hotkey fucking sucks, make it remove empty lines, goddamit.

>>712515597
Don't worry, i got you

>>712515471
me on the left

>>712515785
I was just thinking about how it was mostly Chapter 2 that had people theorizing he was part of some conspiracy because he walked out of the Spamton Neo fight like "Let's all just forget what we just saw, okay?"

Dess bros? how we feelin?

>>712515895
We need to think up a cope for when she gets SURPASSED as the hardest boss by Skwimbleton Franklemming in Chapter 5

>>712513497
that the snowgrave route is still rapey and ends in disaster. that is forever the precedence cast by Ch. 2. stick with it, make it softer or harder, but that's where you took it no matter what happens in the end.

>>712515859
I was actually stuck up on that line but then I realized that he himself didn't want to think about what happened too much. And turns out I was right, he had a full-blown identity crisis in chapter 4.

>>712515545
Susie berating him to have self-esteem fixed him.

>>712494692
There's no way Toby had this planned from the beginning, NO fucking way, the absolute madman.

>>712515895
Who's this? I seem to remember teaching someone with black armor a lesson, but I forgot them already

>>712515895
>hardest boss in the game so far
I fucking kneel. I can't wait to have a full-on fight with her. Her targeted throwing sword attacks are the most fun attacks in the entire game.

>>712516105
>Bursts into Gerson's study
>Fucking RUNS out of the room at full speed
What did KEKcember mean by this?

>>712516113
you'll fucking nuke her with one unleash

>>712515895
i am convinced of Dess solely because the three of us (Me, Kris, and Dess) love having cool swords

>>712494692
Sounds like a dumb retcon

Water you doing?

>>712516228
and Carol
and Noelle

>>712516241
>not miss mizzle

>>712516241
Get in the water cooler

>>712515895
I absolutely, 100% guarantee you that she will side with Fun Gang at some point. I can bet my life savings on it.
Also if she's really the one who made Ralsei, she is technically the best mom in game so far.

>>712516261
THEY'LL CUT THEMSELVES WIDE OPEN

>>712513497
Nuclear rape bomb

>>712516241
DO NOT DRINK MIZZLE
IF YOU DRINK MIZZLE YOU WILL BECOME MIZZLE

why is Jevil so unreasonably HARD I can atleast BEAT Spamton Neo.

>>712516338
Jevil took me more tries than Spamton NEO, the Knight and Gerson combined

is the knight ACTUALLY harder than sans?

>>712516338
Spamton Neo is a jobber. Just make Ralsei farm TP for you. You are going for violence, do you?

>>712516420
Nah the fight is too short and sweet for that. It's more comparable to Undying

>>712516420
it's the same fight but shorter

>>712514238
The entire route is a rape metaphor. Unless he rewrote the whole thing from the ground up, people were going to read that scene as a rape metaphor. Changing a single sprite isn't going to change that.

>>712487936 (OP)
So how mad are people about this? Are people bitching because rape=bad or are people bitching because rape in a funny cartoon furry game is tasteless, or are people not bitching at all?

>>712516420
No

>>712516447
I want the Devils Knife for the knight

>>712516420
neither's really tough at all so idk

>Ratings!? HA! I'll show you CHARISMA!
>HD's nothing when you got NOSTALGIA!
Tenna has the best lines

>>712516636
the crazy thing is no one was all that mad and we'll never know if that actually changed or not now

Carol is obviously a knight. It's not Dess. It just can't be Dess.

>>712515895
I hope her real design is cool
Not just how she used to look either, I want to see some fucked up Gaster-y wendigo under that armor

>>712516664
Wrong. You want it because it's fucking awesome.

>>712516447
Pacifist ending of his fight is too much kino compared to the violent one

>>712516721
rudy's the only one with evidence of using some strange otherworldly suit of armor imo

>>712494692
YOU GOTTA FUCKING SEE THIS BROS

>>712516763
i WANT TOO FIGHT THE KNIGHT

>>712516325
>if you wear the mantle you become titty'd shadow creature
>if you get plugged you become a hypnotized werewire
why is there so much transformation in these games

>>712516789
I only do it violent if I have to

>>712516789
Yeah, I kinda worded it wrong. Go for violent on Jevil, for pacifist on Spamton. Those feel like the best options even story-wise.

>>712515174
Where's the bulge?

>>712516721
>>712516801
Why are you like this?

>>712516801
Knight-Rudy would be dumb from the story perspective. He could be another kind of "knight" tho, like asgore or gerson.

>>712516867
Sometimes loinclothes have no bulge under them. Weird, I know.

it kinda sucks that Jevilsknife is so good but you get another axe from Gerson that's worse but feels more relevant for Susie's character
If you go pacifist on Jevil it's not an issue but again, Jevilsknife is good

Couldn't it be possible for there to be multiple knights? Like wouldn't there be a possibility the main boss for Chapter 5 be a Knight that was just Asgore using the blackshard?

Wait, the night is deez?
Come on man, I am here to avoid spoilers

>>712516886
Her other sprites don't look like a bat, so I assume it's just a bad sprite.

>>712517015
there's a cross guard after it becomes a sword

>>712516960
>I'm NOT letting you see the outline of it

>>712487936 (OP)
it's obviously meant to be an allegory for sex, just like the sound of Sans and Toriel "telling jokes" in the other room getting faster and faster until it reaches a climax is supposed to be Sans dicking down our mom. What actually happened is Toby wanted to imply we raped Noelle but then he chickened out after the game released and tried to walk it back, maybe he got scared that people were responding badly to it or something, but it's clearly his intention.

>>712517005
these are all theoretical don't worry Snape hasn't killed Dumbledore yet

>>712516241
uhhhh can you knock water up
asking for a friend ofc

>>712517005
It's not confirmed by the game yet
But it's practically 95% certain with the 4% being Carol and the 1% being divided between every other character

>>712517015
Why are you pretending to be retarded?
You ARE pretending, right?

>>712516971
The Knight is not "a knight," they are The Roaring Knight. The Knight refers to one person.
If Asgore made a Dark Fountain he wouldn't be "a knight," he's Asgore.

>>712501191
Kill count.
What, you thought killing things in the Mantle game wouldn't have consequences?

*gaster spitting out popcorn*
>YOU RAPED HER-?
>in HER PUSSYHOLE?? :0

>>712517249
>NOW WE ARE GETTING SOMEWHERE

>>712517015
Objects transform into weapons? In my Deltarune? What a ridiculous thought!

>>712516971
I think there are three knights. Those things in the cutscene where Ralsei talks about the titans look nothing like the titan we fight in chapter 4. Meanwhile 2 of them look a lot like the knight.

The Knight is just what happened to Dess after she got [PROCEED]'d too much.

>>712517202
kris i remember your rapes

>>712517071
The story doesn't benefit from Dess being a knight, except as a plot twist. Then Carol would be a useless character. Vice versa, if Carol is a knight, she matters to the story, and Dess might be somehow relevant too. Think about it.

How the hell is there a Winglade weapon and Winglade enemies

>>712517249
>KRIS YOU FUCKIN' BAKA (°□°)︵ ━

>>712517324
Are you retarded? Carol is the mastermind, Kris and Knight are her underlings. Think Palpatine-Darth Vader.

>>712494952
>You murdered your friend
Nope, Toby is a massive coward. Berdly is alive and well.

>>712517381
Berdly is a braindead vegetable.

>>712517373
That is what I am talking about, you retard. Carol is a mastermind AND a knight. Dess is dead / captured / hanging out with Asriel somewhere.

>>712517383
Kris would just dip it into toilet.

>>712517324
>The story doesn't benefit from Dess being a knight
THE Knight

>>712517483
That makes Dess a useless character.

>>712517483
No, you are retarded. The black thing we fight is transformed Dess, it's not Carol in a costume.

after raping noelle you should be able to rape everyone else #raperoute ?

>>712517507
this

Shitty day for those who don't want to be the angel. You do word for word what Alvin suggested as early as chapter 1 in being Kris' guiding light in ch4.

>>712517572
WHO NEED THEY KNUSSY ATE

>>712517539
For now yes, just like Asriel
>>712517572
Okay whatever, we'll see in a year.

>>712502085
One of my favorite small details of Chapter 3 is how embarrassed Ralsei looks if both you and Susie put in "ASS" as your name because it makes him look like a nerd for being the only one who took it seriously

>>712517637
You can see it right now brother >>712516886

>>712517324
The Knight is obviously corrupted by darkness or some shit, that could easily be the reason why Carol seems to be so obsessed with (You) since the SOUL purifies darkness.
It can also show in the Weird Route that Carol knows that the SOUL could use Noelle as a vessel and has accepted that fact, "(You) are welcome here any time" after all.

>>712517460
And then he ended up in hospital after Snowgrave.

I for one am glad that tob is introducing a whole new generation to the wonders of fully armored women
I for one am glad that foxx is introducing a whole new generation to the wonders of abominable monstrosities (female)

>>712515895
SHE FUCKING RAN FROM GERSON

>>712517672
To be fair, he found his own way to get back at her for all her teasing.

>>712503106
I love cute girls

>>712517795

>its the day of the festival
>everything is normal
>habing fun with friends
>thru ppl splitting up to do diff things u end up alone
>you decide to do a carnival game
>you walk up to a strange looking game, there is a man there with his back turned
>its le gaster and he acts like a normal side character

When the knight kills Tenna, it leaves the irl TV's screen smashed. Picture tubes are fucking hard. Even if The Knight's weapon is a bat irl, that would be no easy task. The knight would need to be really strong to do that.

I get the feeling that the knight could kick Kris and Susie's ass irl.

>>712517607
I think that's a placeholder but that castle town sprite isn't used anywhere else, is it?
maybe that's the final prophecy, the grand fountain must be sealed and the dark and light worlds completely isolated
that goes against what susie wants with eternity (and what she says just before sealing the fountain, it sounds like a heroic hope speech but could be foreshadowing that susie will reset the game and true ending is making her finally let go)

>>712515895
show me what that amorphous shadow body can do babe

>>712517637
>For now yes, just like Asriel
Then why are you complaining about carol being a useless character?

>>712517883
fish was TEN YEARS AGO anon

>>712507751
This is perfect

>>712517723
and he's still a braindead vegetable

>>712513497
Toby can change the couch scene all he wants
doesn't change the fact that snowgrave starts with us PROCEEDing shit Noelle isn't consenting to
which is very rapey lmao

>>712517898
My father told me a story from his childhood once
>he and his friends find an old cathode tube
>they decide to just break it over the curb to see what happens
>some man is walking past and sees them
>"Guys, you're doing it wrong, it would be funnier if you threw rocks at it from afar"
>they do that
>it fucking explodes

>>712517898
she also apparently physically overpowers undyne in the light world, kris and susie would absolutely get their asses thrashed

>>712517827
>ralsei will never nuzzle his fluffy face and ears against you

>>712517202
Saying someone is 'The Knight' doesn't hold much weight. Nobody knows the true identity of the Knight, outside of maybe Kris and Ralsei who'll never tell. My theory has just as many holes in it and is nothing more than random bullshit, but 'The Knight' doesn't confirm just one. You can even compare it to the Mike fight, as one of them is considered 'The Mike' while also none of them being 'The Mike'.

>>712517898
Dude took like 3 times the amount Snowgrave did to Berdly lol. It is safe to say this was the worst day of Tenna's entire existence

>>712517954
Dess hasn't been shown yet, unlike Carol. Carol is obviously an antagonist character. Dess could still be anything. Isn't that self-evident?

>>712518119
do what >>712516325 said
drink mizzle
become mizzle

>>712518079
It imploded. Vacuum tubes are as the name implies vacuums. They have to resist atmospheric pressure spread over their large and unusually shaped surface, which is why they have to be made so strong.

>>712509776
i hate to be DUDE DRUGS LMAO but i do regret not dropping the acid i had for the ch4 climax

>>712517904
Out of all of the placeholders used in the game, Toby decided to use Youtown to talk about the angel. It'd be really silly to deny the connections. I think the last prophecy is related to the death of someone Susie personally knows. I chucked out the idea of sealing our own fountain due to the talk of balance and if the grand fountain does need to be sealed, the world would most likely in a more dire state than we thought.

>>712512996
Anon I...
Theres two mosses in chapter 3, an obvious one in the first board game and a slightly less obvious one in the second board game. Both are on cracks
In the hallway with 4 cultists where the egg is in chapter 4, you can find holy moss at the very end

tenna will go to birdly because tennas and old crt and berdly is le gamer. fuck u toby ik what ur gunna do . make them fuck

>french art project is pedo shit
no way?

>>712513417
I never did the middle one, is it fun?

>>712517572
WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>712518081
I didn't even think about that. Undyne casually bench presses cars, the knight must be absurdly strong.

>>712487936 (OP)
have you considered that you might just have severe autism

>>712518081
this, undyne can bench press cars
I think the knight is made of such dense darkness that it can retain its form in the light world (but probably not permanently/only at night/dark places)

>>712518256
I think a sacrifice will be required of the lightners (at least one or all the heroes) and the fountain must be sealed, both things would be a big hit

>>712514801
>unironically taking what /v/ posts seriously
come on anon, don't tell me you'd fell for those omori /ss/ post too?

>>712518239
Well, whatever it was, they were glad they weren't in the radius when that happened.

>>712514583
What green?

>>712518283
Already went to Mettaton, bruh.

Someone post the Tenna image!

>>712516763
I really hope we get a new Soul Eater anime when Fire Force ends and I also hope we get a schizo boss item that's convinient for Ralsei, he's the only one out of the three using normal equipment in my playthrough

>>712518431
You got it chief!

>>712494692
IM GONNA KILL MYSELF

Uh oh the same janny from last night woke up

No Kris... not the cuck cage again...

I still find it funny how Tenna was introduced, and how Susie just keeps getting better each chapter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tfx9EoYD1E

Damn if Susie doesn't grow on you after a while.

FUNNY!

>>712518342
I did think the incest subtext would be more plentiful actually.

>>712518445
Just give him yo Dealmaker

>>712518210
>Dude took like 3 times the amount Snowgrave did to Berdly lol
Berdly has around 900 HP, while Tenna has 5,000. So its closer to 5 times. Even crazier is that it isn't instantly fatal, only killing him if no one gives him medical aid.
> It is safe to say this was the worst day of Tenna's entire existence
Its sad to say you might be wrong

>>712518517
Dealmaker belongs with Kris.

>>712518342
There's cut dialogue that was pretty rapey in nature for Mari lol

>>712487936 (OP)
I was having so much fun suffering last thread too.
Now it's gone.
Anyway.
What did Asgore do to get divorced?

>>712518468
Reminder there's like 8 stellar blade threads on the catalog and they're all the most forced/inorganic discussion ever but this retard instead just targets these threads

>>712518517
I gave him the other money-boosting item while I gave Dealmaker to Kris, it's far more convenient

>>712518171
The Knight is consistently identified as The Knight in Chapter 1 and 2 and throughout the whole game. There is not "a knight," there is only The Knight.
The Knight is the one who created the Card Castle and Cyber City fountains, according to all available testimony and evidence from all sources within the game. Queen identifies them as "The Roaring Knight" before she even knows what "The Roaring" is; it is known to be their title. These are established facts and there is no reason to doubt them.

>>712518557
>>712518597
I say that and I also give Kris the Dealmaker.
Fuck...

>>712518574
We've had threads ALL DAY and only now did that one get 404'd. Confirmed a specific janny with a grudge.

>>712518365
They should be even more glad they didn't inhale any of the lead dust that came out of it when it imploded. Those things are lined with lead to keep the viewer from getting x-rayed.

>gerson directly tells susie she's the Dragon
>but the heroes and the dragon are described separately when he explains chapter 1 of LotH/the prophecy
susie absolutely wasn't the original monster hero

>>712517898
>>712518081
Imagine how hard Dess can rape.

>>712518569
I think he got too obsessed with figuring out what happened to the kids that it drove a wedge between them. Toriel might have turned to alcohol at that point and things spiraled.

>>712518253
what was it like
go excruciatingly into detail

>>712518557
Nah, Susie gets the cool shades

>>712518283
>>712518419
I do wonder if we'll get the option to give him to someone else if we hang on to him until chapter 5.

>>712518661
but can she rape her sister?

>>712516835
Tittyed shadow creature, you say?
Please, post pictures of this illusive entity so that I may avoid it.

>>712518683
No she's not gay.

>>712516325

>>712518640
It was me, I did it. I theoryfagged so hard that Toby himself struck it down.

YOUR TAKING TOO LONG

>>712518569
Accidentally run over Kris' hand, which somehow made Dess dissappear

>>712518662
>Toriel turned to alcohol
We never once see her drinking though? You'd think there would be at least one scene with her being intoxicated if this was true.

>>712494692
HOLY FUCKING SHIT! HOW THE HELL DID EVERYONE MISS THIS WHEN IT WAS SO FUCKING OBVIOUS!?

>Get isekaid into deltarune
>become a simp cup

>>712518749
IS TAKING TOO LONG

>>712516325
Okay buddy explain the Zappers who drank from the water cooler

>>712516325
Water you talking about?

>>712518694

>>712518776
It's fine. Those little guys got a banger as their theme song.

>>712518256
>>712518340
My galaxy brained take is that to beat the Angel Susie is going to need to absorb the whole of castletown's inhabitants alongside The Soul Spirit Bomb Style, and Ralsei was hoping that if they brought everyone to Castle Town it would spread the burden enough to save them all.

>>712503512
FREAK

>>712518760
Literally the end of chapter 4, also I forget if it was in Undertale or in an Undertale's newsletter where it was mentioned that she had a drinking

>>712518642
There certainly was a lot of dust.

>>712494692
I fucking kneel.

>>712518807
Ramb is trans... fuck...

>>712514583
post your green bwo...

would you?

When did you realize [Hyperlink blocked] is LOVE?
>I GAVE YOU MY [Commemorative Ring] FOR THE PRICE OF [My Favorite Year]!
>AND THIS IS HOW YOU [Repay] ME!? TREATING ME LIKE [DLC]!?
>NO, I GET IT! IT'S YOU AND THAT [Hochi Mama]!
>YOU'VE BEEN [Making], HAVEN'T YOU!
>YOU'VE BEEN MAKING [Hyperlink Blocked]!
>AND NOW THAT YOU HAVE YOUR OWN SUPPLY, YOU DON'T NEED ME!!!
>I WAS TOO [Trusting] TOO [Honest].
>I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A MAN OF THE [PIPIS]. A REAL [PIPIS] PERSON!
>I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN YOU WOULD HAVE USED MY [Ring] FOR [Evil]...
>OH, [Right]. THAT'S WHY I SOLD IT TO YOU

At this point, it feels like everyone is in on You and Kris. For lightners, I assume its anyone tied to Carol which would also include Asgore, Alvin (which lampshades a lot of shit You do later in the game), and Dess at this point. Just about every darkner knows but that's most likely because of Dess.

>>712518915
Die painfully? Yes.

Ramb deserves to be in castle town more than half the losers there. It's bullshit.

>>712518865
Is this...
Kid Wizard?

>>712518915
>implying I hadn't already in real life
I'm so fucking lonely

>>712494692

>>712518871
That's punch, it doesn't count.

>>712518939
Bleagh. Now I gotta repost my reply, thanks janny.
>some people just cannot feel love without pain

>>712518807
Looks dangerous.
I need a few more, preferably from different angles, so I can get a better scope of the threat.

Did I mention how much I love the sprite work in this game?

>>712518776
CUP NIGGAS unite!

>>712518915
It wouldn't be the first time a water cooler has been lewded

>>712518939
The suggestive comments Spamton makes about Noelle in snowgrave was what finally turned me around, he literally calls her your side bitch

>>712518760
It's mentioned in the Undertale alarm clock thing by Flowey.
As Flowey chuckles over her drunken body lying there, she reaches out for Asriel.
But Undertale is unrelated.

>>712518461
No, Tenna! Don't do it!

>>712516664
>Noelle the moment Ralsei uses fire magic

>>712519039
Seated Noelle is expressive.

>>712518525
I think the schizos, or at least Spamton, were done by Gaster. Sapmton gets phone calls with garbage noise. Only Gaster is associated with garbage noise calls.

>>712518939
And so do I have to repost my reply

I'm pretty sure the butterfly line is referring to a line from Chrono Trigger's Zeal that stuck to me until this day
>Am I a butterfly dreaming that I'm a man?
>Or a man dreaming that I'm a butterfly?

>>712519138
I love Noelle when she's not stumbling over herself trying to get in Susie's pants.

>>712509561
>>Though unable to dwell under [[HEAVEN]]

>got around to Chapter 4 just now
>this forced cringefest between Noelle and Susie from Toby playing dollhouse with them
Please tell me there's a way to throw myself out of the window.

>>712518625
We do hear about a "Strange Knight" from Seam though, who is described like he came long before the Roaring Knight showed up and spoke to the King.

>>712487936 (OP)
>Is tobias foxx retarded?
Nope
He's in fact a genius
The existence of this thread proves it, as well as other online seethe this move caused
Same with Toriel x Sans scene
He plays eroge (allegedly), he knew exactly was he was doing

>>712519087
If he knew that Knight is Dess, he wouldn't call her "they". And Carol was nice to him, actually. Fucking secondaries.

>>712494692
My god this changes everything

STOP DELETING DISCUSSION THREADS YOU MONGREL CRETINS

THIS BOARD IS UNUSABLE

>>712519275
You can PROCEED if you PROCEEDed in Chapter 2.

>>712519275
Sorta, yes.

>>712519195
Miss Mizzle is bad, sure but I'd be perfectly content basking in the refreshing liquid of D-Tier ground level Mizzle water.

>>712518760
She's fall over drunk at the end of chapter 4.

>>712519314
>the Berdly comment
kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYahi-Y3O50

>>712519275
Don't worry, Noelle is just coping about Kris as she misses him dearly

>>712494692
There's no way this is legit, can someone confirm?

>>712519349
>He wants ground-bound Mizzle juices and not the princesses from the heavens
ngmi

>>712519328
4chan isn't for discussion, it's for saving western civilization.

It'd be so fuarking kino if Susie's healing surpassed Ralsei after the Gerson training arc

>>712519201
It's entirely intentional.
They're fated, but,
She will sprout wings, alight upon the pain,
Meant only to suffer, where Kris
Is meant to suffer, where Susie[/spoiler
]
Is meant to suffer

>>712519002
why would putting the liquor in punch make it not count?

>>712516325
On one hand, hot. On the other hand, I don't wanna lose my dong. Tough choice.

I don't remember anything about dess
what is known about her
what happened to her

>>712519275
Nope, enjoy your yuribaiting for the pronouns alphabet soup.

>>712518939
Four years ago.

>>712519314
>ralsei turns into a block
>go afk
>tenna cuts to commercial and skips the puzzle

>>712519206
>Kris! Behold! My [[PURE FURY]]!!

listen toby i appreciate you bumping the difficulty up for Deltarune but why does Jevil have too be like this

>>712519275
Do snowgrave and then get to that scene on the same file.

How does Noelle not hear Kris playing the Piano just in the other room? It's a fucking Grand Piano, you could probably hear it from down the block.

>>712519662
Jesus Reverse Snowgrave

>>712519275
Noelle gets a "date" with her beloved Susie and spends the whole thing talking about Kris. Hell, you can even go to diner with Susie WHILE she waits you at the gate, then have a tea party with Ralsei too, and then rub it in her face. At this point, Suselle is all but over.

>>712519707
its like 3 am where im at right now and my heads poundin from slamming ciggarets what does this mean, are you saying I should go pascifist

Chapter 3 is based for the sole reason that the NES games are based on the objectively best Zelda game (Link's Awakening)

fuck brehs i don't want it to be over
https://youtu.be/aSc7Yuwn1Ao
see you again in two years

>>712519817
idk what games to play for the next six months
this is the most fun I have had since I don't know when

>>712519275
>>712519718
Pic related.

>>712519794
But they're playing on an Atari

>>712519792
Nah, bro continue Fuck Jevil ASS

>>712519403
>>712519718
>>712519856
What the hell? Why did Toby paint her wanting Susie so badly then?
What is her problem? I really don't understand this retarded deer.

>>712519852
Undertale Yellow is decent. If you want more furry RPGs I recommend Solatorobo and the Fuga series. That series actually had its 3rd entry release just a couple days prior to DR chapter 3.

>>712519896
>Fuck Jevil ASS
oh, I will >:)

>>712519896
fear...

>>712519896
Please do not fuck the jester.

>>712519951
I just can't stop noticing

>>712519916
Unresolved feelings, anon.

>>712519856
>two people in a cage
>forced together
this had a LOT more meaning that I initially was letting on especially because of the snowgrave ch4 "think about noelle" stuff

>>712519916
>Why did Toby paint her wanting Susie so badly then?
Because she sees her missing sister Dess in Susie. But this is now. Before she learned how nice Susie was, she was into her because she saw real Kris in her.

>>712519852
I'm in the same exact boat, I legitimately never feel like this over a game anymore, it was really nice feeling this invested and engrossed in a piece of media again. I truly do not want it to be over even if only temporarily, it's going to be especially rough after chapter 5 comes out since who knows how long the chapters after 5 will take.

>>712519275
You WILL like Undyne and Alphys 2.0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFYTL3mTsdo
>post yfw

>>712519916
copium

>>712519275
No.
Enjoy being FORCED to watch.

>Noelle watched fucking Board James
Toby I am going to fucking kill you

>>712520158
Where are you getting this from?

>>712520117
>>712519916
It is meant to hurt her.

>>712520158
Where is the reference?

>>712520158
the board james reference implies the existence of avgn and by extension the nostalgia critic in the deltarune universe

>>712519413
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO7gB5ATJr8

What are the chances that Toby wanted to portray that childhood friends to lovers was forced but backfired spectacularly on how badly Noelle is written around Susie?

I've never actually done the snowgrave route or whatever the fuck it's called now
Do I start it from chapter 1 or 2?

>>712520267
Chapter 2

>>712520187
>>712520205
If you turn on the speaker system in the basement they start talking about various things and Noelle mentioned this "guy who gets mad at videogames" who made a "horror series about a bucket with Ice-E's face on him that tries to kill him"

>more people waking up to it
Nice

>>712520249
Seeing Noelle and Susie just doesn't invoke the same tender feelings that seeing the three of them together, or Kris and Susie, or Kris and Noelle gather in me
somehow Kris not saying a word has more chemistry with the two characters who never shut up

>>712520238
The question is, are they monsters or are they still human in this universe?

>>712520249
He's been pretty careful portraying Noelle's uncertain and possibly unresolved feelings regarding Kris
I don't think he is planning something so petty

Festival is going to be the repeat of chapter 2 but in Light World
>Susie sees Asriel at the festival
>"Wait, THAT's your brother? Sorry, Kris, but he is getting bullied."
>grabs him by the hand and drags him off
>Kris is left alone with Noelle
>she starts reminiscing about old times and end up bonding with Kris
>they then ran into Kris and Asriel talking happily and eating cotton candy

>>712520305
>watch over sleeves
neanderthal

>>712520351
AVGN is a monster and Nostalgia Critic is a human

>>712520267
Chapter 2.
Save the moment that Noelle is in your party, because one wrong move at that point can break it.

>>712520365
>Everything about Snowgrave now happening in the light world
no please and thank you

>>712520340
>>712520358
I dunno, I have this nagging feeling he got pretty unhappy with people shitting on Alphys and Undyne in the past given some people believed Papyrus would end up with Undyne before even finishing the game.

>>712520426
You will PROCEED and you will like it.

>>712520249
I think with the dess stuff in the light it's kind of obvious now that noelle doesn't really want a girlfriend, she wants a big sister and susie kind of fills that niche
similarly, kris helps her remember the better times when dess was still around so she's drawn to him also
and I think she was meant to be written that way from day 1

HOLY SHIT GUYS RALSEI JUST ATTACKED IRAN, GET IN HERE

>>712520471
Not just remember, she misses him

>>712520390
Give it a try sometime. I promise that it's comfier than it looks

>>712520453
I wish people will stop bringing up Alphys and Undyne. It was a completely different situation.

>>712520541
She can't even hide making this face as she remembers how she felt on the Ferris wheel.
It hurts

>>712520472
Moar before thread dies?

>>712520541
she misses how things were

>>712520674
I stole it from reddit tho

honestly i liked the susie noelle interactions way more in chapter 4 than i did 2
i still think that suselle is not happening but toby put in more work this time

>>712520735
>watercooler

>>712520735
Damn, didn't even give him the cuckchair

>>712520735
Water they doing there

>>712520754
It still feels pretty FORCED but does show it's not as black and white

>>712520290
>Hey, didn't you kill all your friends?
>IT WASN'T ME IT WAS THE FUCKING SOUL!

>>712520905
kek

I still can't really believe that the lightworld thorn ring scene is even a thing

>>712520754
Susie realized that she has another friend in Light World, so she's a lot more comfortable around her. Now it's up to Noelle to realize their relationship doesn't needs to be romantic.

Board James is AVGN's split personality, and he murders all his friends. I feel like we could make a schizo theory out of this.