>>713663976Thread already there.
>>713669918 (OP)Carol
>To open the fountain in the church, they'd need some way to get there before Kris and Susie.Dess
>If they are the knight, why haven't they come home?>If Dess is the knight, who is UNUSED?Rudy
>They're too sick. They couldn't have carried undyne through the light world on their own.Noelle
>She'd have to be the greatest actor ever, or have a split personality to act the way she does around Susie and Kris, and act the way she does in the weird route while being the knight.Each one has it's own obstacles. I'll put my chips on Rudy.
>>713669918 (OP)It's a helmet anon. Papyrus is under it
>>713671694Why did Papyrus turn Dess's skull into a helmet?
>>713671387>they >they're Not even gonna talk about your theory and its nitpickimg but cmon stop with this pronoun nonsense
>>713671807deep seated rage
Janny knows
The threads you're making now
Everyone
Of the lore that runs so deep
And the rape that helps us cum
Janny knows
Of Asgore's burger-truck
(All gratis~)
So he cleans the board of video game talk
Including DELTARUNE
>>713671905Pretty sure he's using they because we don't know who the fuck the knight is
>>713671905Sorry, I try to use correct pronouns, but somewhere talking about people online too much I started using they by default and haven't been able to break the habbit.
>>713669918 (OP)When are you faggots going to stop spamming your literal gay furry garbage
>>713669918 (OP)I feel so SAFEโฆ
>>713671387>Rudy>>They're too sick. They couldn't have carried undyne through the light world on their own.I'm a Dess believer, but this is bad counter evidence. None of these people could have dragged Undyne to the shelter unless they could maintain their Knight form outside dark worlds, which is implied to be the case by the black shard staying a black shard in the light world. Rudy being the Knight genuinely isn't as crazy as people act like it is. If it wasn't for the bat, I'd believe it.
>>713669918 (OP)The one in Noelle's belly
>>713673653>None of these people could have dragged Undyne to the shelter unless they could maintain their Knight form outside dark worlds,I've seen theories that the reason why the knight is so powerful is that they are a monster with a human soul, like what asriel became after absorbing chara's soul in undertale. This would mean they should be powerful both in the dark world and in the light world.
the human soul being kris' original soul, which is why kris needs us as a surrogate
Its probably just some christmas decoration from the Holiday house which might be the next dark world
>>713672268this comment would be better directed to the AI generals, no?
>>713675197can't be, as far as we know darkeners can't open fountains, only lighteners
>>713671387>Carol>>To open the fountain in the church, they'd need some way to get there before Kris and Susie.Just open it beforehand
>>713669918 (OP)Is it a visor or is it a mouth?
>>713675454Yeah. People always mess this up. The problem isn't when she'd open the fountain, she had plenty of time for that, the problem is her getting back there before Kris and Susie.
To be honest though, even that is pretty dubious evidence since you could easily argue that Kris and Susie going straight to church isn't the canonical way that things played out. Susie says to go to Toriel's house after leaving the Holiday house. If you examine the front door of the Holiday House before leaving, the flavor text says that Carol is watching through the window, so she isn't taking her time yelling at Noelle or something either.
>>713675647It's a visor that occasionally serves as a mouth.
>>713675794I forgot to add that I don't actually believe this to be the case. I think that if it mattered that Susie and Kris didn't immediately go to the church, then it wouldn't have been possible to do so. Just mentioning that I don't think the usual gotcha for while Carol can't be the knight isn't as ironclad as people act like it is, even though I actually agree with the reasoning.
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>>713669918 (OP)i have no fucking idea at this point the obvious answer is dess but it could be carol or fucking rudy for all i know after chapter 4
>>713669918 (OP)He's too good to be any of the shitters mentioned in the thread
I bet it's (ME)
>>713674992I'm on the same page about the soul theory.
Clearly something happened before the game started and Kris got (you).
So it makes sense that the lightener that is powerful on a scale we haven't seen from anyone else would have something like a human soul boosting them.
>>713678930The theory is pretty compelling, but Dess has been missing for maybe around 10 years given the spelling bee scene. So either Kris would have had to have been soulless for about a decade or this soul has been with Kris a longer time than we realize. That would explain why Kris already has the cage, but it's a pretty big blow to the theory that the player in real life is diagetic to the story, even though that theory is so universally accepted that people forget it isn't actually canon.
>>713669918 (OP)I just died to the flying stars. Holy damn. Dodging is any better with keyboard?
>>713679484What was the section of the game where its said the spelling bee was 10 years ago again. I think I must of missed it.
>>713671807don't question Gaster's master plan
>>713680175No. Just keep trying, the stars have a much smaller hitbox than it looks, if you already got there you've almost won
>>71368019710 years is just a very generous guess. It probably hasn't actually been quite that long. Her sprite during the spelling bee shows her much younger so it's been several years at least.
>>713680273I'm still not fucking with this whole gaster shit ngl... I feel like it's a bit too cliche and too on the nose. Would be better if it was an entirely different character.
>>713680838That fair,
Personally I took it as a 1-2 years ago incident.
Like something recent enough where the scars of it are still fresh and everyone is still active and engaged with the topic.
Otherwise events like everything surrounding Asgore, Kris and Noelle having a established enought relationship to have the drifting apart mean something, and Dess & Asriel including Kris and Noelle in their hangouts while Asriel is currently being at college, would feel way to drawn out
Because of this I have Kris and the others closer to 14-15 than 18, long enough for puberty to kick in but a short enough period of time to where them having kid sprites makes sense.
This is not to say a knock against you or anything just where I'm at in speculating.
But yeah the implications surrounding Kris handing over their Soul, means either they were dealing with this issue beforehand or that Kris has been wandering around Soulless for over a year before the game starts and only got a new one in order to engage with the Dark Worlds
>>713678009I bet shes got a good singing voice like Mariah Carey
>>713669918 (OP)The whole chapter points to Dess.
>>713678009is she supposed to be spamelle tenna
then what is tenna like
>>713669918 (OP)THE SECRET THIRD HOLIDAY CHILD WHO RAN AWAY FROM HOME YEARS AGO AND HAS BEEN LIVING AMONGST THE PEOPLE OF HOMETOWN IN COMPLETE SECRECY
The knight is a darkner made from Dess's corpse which was frozen to prevent disintegration.
>>713682198Wohโฆ Itโs like some king ofโฆ Howdy!
>>713680787Won right after i made the post. Tough fight but expected more somehow.
papyrusbros here's how we can still win
>>713669918 (OP)trans day of visibility
>>713683541des these nuts
>>713671694Papyrus is behind the tree
Remember that Gaster is a last name and we don't know Carol's maiden name.
>>713678413>AIEEEEEE NOT AGAIN
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>>713678009This could work.
>>713683967where are her antlers
So is Toby Fox just sniffing his own farts? Or is he planning an epic "Flowey" scene of talking directly to the play on how plushies of the characters you have are living their own life at night like in Toy Story movie??
>>713683234Actually had the same feeling, after everything clicked I just snatched a win. Sans was paced better imo
>>713684385>hoe-hoethreesome with doe hoes
>>713684451All of toby's plushes have secrets hidden inside them
The lightners have something inside of them that should not be revealed
Do you think Carol wishes Noelle disappeared instead of December?
I love these two idiots and their idiot interactions so much.
>>713684509I think you're supposed to beat him without a mantle for a true ending (I'm samefagging btw)
>>713684618ASS squad really carried this game
>>713684451>So is Toby Fox just sniffing his own farts?Yes.
>>713684331she shed them.
>>713684451He's still sniffing his own farts regardless of the justification he thinks he has for doing so. I think it's stupid to use in-universe logic for justifying why merch of a character doesn't exist in the real world.
>>713684308What weird ass kind of antenna is that?
>>713684451Toby might be actually an insane artfag. I question if he's actually interested in a hero's journey or is he going to make some Evangelion ending and sacrifice entire story and all the potential subplots for "le ebin allegory". I just hope he doesn't fuck it up like Zero Escape series.
>>713684637Does having a mantle on just one member gives some buff to everyone or just that one? Cuz no one died on me on my last try. I couldn't do a no hit run tho. The sword parts it's crazy.
What if Dess saw her sister in this situation
>>713685218They would have sisterly bond activity
>>713685059Old TV antenna that used to be on top of houses
>>713671387>He thinks Rudy is actually sickmonsters don't get sick
>>713685347if monsters bleed and need the bathroom in DR verse, then they can get sick
didn't rudy get sick in UT too?
>>713684592Probably not, wasn't Dess the troublesome one like Kris?
>>713685059Don't bullshit me kid, you still see those on people's roofs today
>>713685406they only install the toilet for kris
>>713685136Only the one wearing it has the massive dmg reduction. That's why it's meta to put it on Sus
>>713685347They woudn't need hospital
>>713685459I don't think he's questioning it's purpose, like me, he's confused about 40 protruding rods when it doesn't provide any functionality over the basic design.
Deltarune but Ceroba is Kris mom instead of Toriel
carol planning to use sussie soul to revive dess
>>713685613To be fair, Alphys already revived monsters in Undertale, it wouldn't be far fetched for the same to happen here
>>713685594Asriel would be a pile of goo and Ceroba would have murdered Kris to try to heal him.
>>713684451You still don't get it do you? Toby's goal is to always cause maximum amount of discussion about Deltarune.
If he said no plushies at all, that wouldn't cause discussion, if he said all plushies are fine, that wouldn't cause discussion.
But arbitarily limiting who can be made into a plushie causes discussion, especially with that red herring "hurr it's because of lore reasons"
The goal is more discussion and more engagement, he learned from Hussie
>>713685710go back to sucking dicks on reddit
>>713684618I think Susie's hair should always be immaculate, since she's always carrying around brushes.
>>713685594You just want a hot furry stepsister
>>713685738>Plays DeltaTranny>calls others r*ddit
You know how some celebrities will adopt a black/asian kid just for the cloud?
Same with Carol, she adopted a human to show wealth
>>713685275The antenna you posted before looks different.
>>713685459No the antennas I see in my neighborhood look like the second pic he posted I don't know what kind of weird antenna he posted first time around.
Am I the only one who would have preferred Susie to be male and Berdly female?
>>713685781>post dick sucking reddit frog, only rebuttle "ur a tranny"yup your typical mouth breathing avatar attention whore on /v/
>>713685751Is that so wrong?
We have Masked Man at home.
>>713685878>..he said in his TrannyRune thread
>>713685957>keeps mentioning tranny out of nowherethanks for proving me right
>>713685594Ceroba is exactly the kind of wife Asgore needs.
I wouldn't wish Toriel on my worst enemy, though.
>>713685710But why only Kris, Susie and Noelle?
If it was just Susie and Kris, i would get it for not ruining the ship. Or i could understand Kris and Noelle because of the rape scene. Why would a purple dinosaur girl needed protection from Toby?
>Asriel comes back from college
>>713669918 (OP)is it wearing a samus power suit or is it a venom symbiote type of costume
wombell, wibbell, wobbell, wambell
>>713686150Can't you see? It's obviously a Scooby-Doo villain costume, anyone could be inside.
>>713686207It could be ME, it could be (You), it could be FRIEND, it-
>>713686207There's someone out there who still unironically thinks that the Knight is papyrus
Still not as much as a delusion as people thinking that Suselle is not going to happen and Kris will end up with one of the two
>only dawned on me recently Kris doesn't like lookinig at this guys conspiracy board because Asgore has one in his flower shop
>>713684451We're going to see the pretentious Evangelion ending levels we have never seen before. Danganronpa V3 levels, where in order for the ending to make sense, creator and publisher needed to agree on never making new Danganronpa again.
Either that or all 3 of them get raped and it not okay to monetize rape victims
>>713686314>Carol has one toohmmmm
>>713684385Artists can't decide if make Desd a tomboy or a goth
>>713686327But hey, at least itโll be better than Homestuckโs, right?
>>713686314For someone who post this all the time you really are slow, huh? Maybe instead of dumping your brain with useless theories you focus on actual facts and intentions in the game? Re thinking 400 times on whether It's actually Dess as the knight or Rudy or Carol or Papyrus won't change the fact it's always was and always be Dess
>>713685710Yeah I think so too.
Ultimately, Toby is a real good salesman.
>>713684304>Chapter 5 is in the flower shop>Dess is the Knight>The party has to fight her again in chapter 5>When it looks like their on the ropes and Dess about the stick the finishing blow>Suddenly Asgore comes in riding a chariot, trident raised, crashing into her>During chapter 6 we can see the truck smashed through the side of the flower shopAfter the Mike situation you know Toby would do it
>>713686505>I have a small white penis
>When baking a pie with Toriel, Susie gets flour on her snout and sneezes
>flower thing at beginning of Ch. 3 sneezes if you wait
>Elnina and Lanino sneeze after crying
>the bodyguard Zapper sneezes if you rub his pecs
>if you wait to interact with discarded Tenna after the rain starts, he catches a cold and is sneezing as reported by Susie who fixes him
>when attempting to equip the Winglade on Susie, she says "don't make me sneeze!"
>>713686454excuse you i'm not that guy. For one thing I didn't have a random conspiracy
I mean kind of funny you bring it up it's mostly "obvious" that the Knight is Dess because of years of external stewing.
Just off the info we have from the game itself it's not at all obvious that the knight is Dess.
>>713685856>>713685059Pretty sure that's a Yagi Antenna
>>713686603what
what does it mean
* We're the infamous dog-burgulars, The Wet-Nose Bandits.
* (We were getting ready to sneak into that big house over the holidays...)
* When we were attacked from the shadows, by something MERCILESS!
* (Fearing for our lives, we all ran right into Officer Undyne's warm, loving arms...)
* And she suplexed us all into the snow with our tails hanging in the air.
* (Now we're in jail, but at least we're alive...)
* Plus, that nice ghost keeps giving us incorporeally low-calorie treats.
* (Then we all howl holiday songs together. Ooo ooo ooo.)
>>713679484>but it's a pretty big blow to the theory that the player in real life is diagetic to the storyNot really. We're an external force brought in to change things, which means that there must be a "default" path where events play out without our influence. And you can see that default path by skipping chapters.
The SOUL only obtains free will with our help.
Okay /v/ time to choose
>Weather duo
Or
>Robot trio
>>713671387>Rudy is the Knight in the dark world>Carol is the Knight in the light worldItโs as shrimple as that
>>713686454>everyone one personXIV BROS!
>>713686310>Still not as much as a delusion as people thinking that Suselle is not going to happen and Kris will end up with one of the twoNice b8 m8
>>713669918 (OP)...does it even matter..?
Did anyone else see this at first?
>>713686785The weather duo are more impressionable. and look like deltarune characters
>>713686752>shadow crystals don't matter>eggs don't matter>recruits either don't matter or you can only do worse than the default ending based on your behaviorThe only way to get the game to respond to your actions is to do weird route. Pretty fucked up.
>>713686883I saw the valve guy
>>713680838>>713681554How to draw dragons is 7 years overdue and Dess has a traced dragon under her bed, so it had to have been within the last 7 years.
>>713686393>goth tomboydess has massive punk rocker energy, not goth. fucking 2000s kiddies
Convince me that the Knight isn't inspired by this bitch before the schizo theory fags start lashing at toby for plagiarism again when the game releases in 2040 and they find out bubblegum crisis exists.
I noticed that the Chapter 5 sweepstakes page lacks an explanation. The h.ogg page specifically. What else lacks explanation and is possibly a Chapter 5 teaser?
Please stop referring to the knight as "The JOBBING knight" or "The roaring FRAUD" or else Toby will make the next boss fight even harder.
>>713671387>If Dess is the knight, who is UNUSED?also December
she probably got split like Gaster
could be two, could be three
Do you think Toby will allow plushies of Dess after reveal?
>>713686938Nigga you just posted the most generic humanoid robot ever
>>713686964bitch better stay in chapter 3 or im calling my grandpa
>>713686883>Titans are the manifestation of primal fears>A giant black man
>>713686785Weather duo and it's not even remotely close
They're basically the shitbot trio but done properly
>>713686997She's a lightner so no.
>>713686663Oh that's what that shit's called?
What makes it Yagi?
>>713686785This is a loaded questions because people here want to have sex with the moongirl
>>713687117>moongirlshe's a cloud
>>713686785Robot trio because I have no idea what Toby was thinking with that gay threesome shit
>>713686883It's Charles Barkley goofy you got the wrong black guy
>>713685594>>713686004Toriel did nothing wrong! She just wants to send Kris to university. She's doing it for her son. I wish all the anons in this thread had such a wonderful mother.
>>713686909Shadow Crystals and Eggs will probably matter, we simply haven't reached critical mass for those just yet. But yeah, Kris has you on a pretty tight leash since the only changes you can make are basically just wiggle room.
>>713687169>Potrays policules has a degenerate thing and a joke>Reddit and Tumblr still on his sideHow does he do it?
I can't tell if this is an intentional reference or not
>>713687290Shadow Crystals will absolutely matter, most of the secret boss routes in chapters correspond with Gerson's prophecy. Eggs will likely only provide some deep lore.
>Kris has you on a pretty tight leash since the only changes you can make are basically just wiggle roomSeems like we're in the same boat then.
>>713687406I wonder how the anon that spammed literal child porn in these threads a few days ago is doing.
>>713672586this pic has no reason to go so hard
>>713685491even in the holiday manor, and asgore is cleaning it despite kris not going there in a while?
>>713687406NOOOO you can't make a plushie out of her or jack off to her!!! Noelle is a retelling of my childhood crush! Its based on a real person!
>>713687501I wonder why Temmiefag stopped visiting us and only makes separate threads. Does he thinks he's too good for us or what?
>>713687406I can't believe that's the new vessel we've got
>>713687534Is that the same mentally ill retard who used to spam "vidya butts"?
>>713687520>NOOOO you can't make a plushie out of herHe actually said he's fine with fanmade plushies, he just doesn't wants official merch.
>>713687439They just cope by saying "It didn't work out because Rouxls sucks, not because polycules suck" even though they ignore that his logic of "three is stronger than two and one" is presented as flawed.
>>713684576Except for Lancer, for whatever reason.
>>713687591>It didn't work out because Rouxlswas just trying to imitate our heroes
>>713687674>self-insert>a female one, no lesscringe
I'll be the guardian of doe.
>>713685406>didn't rudy get sick in UT too?I thought so too, but nope. All the alarm clock dialogue says is that he suddenly fell down one day.
>>713686883>If I find the Fun Gang in this place, Iโmma be a one-man Dark World apocalypse
>>713687770I'll be the doe.
>>713687770My doe will be the guardian of ME.
>>713687574No idea, our guy specialized in Temmi slop and Cell tail vore edits of UT/DR characters. Then he completely stopped coming here after the chapters release.
>>713685685the only one that was revived was flowey, everyone else didn't get the chance to die before becoming an amalgamate
Imagine telling an anon 8 years ago when chapter 1 released that everyone here would end up hating Susie and Ralsei and liking Kris the most.
every time you drink a water are you killing a mizzle? that's fucked up
>>713686909>shadow crystals don't matterChapter 3 crystal was by far the hardest to earn
It's hidden in plain sight on a boss that's seemingly an unwinnable fight
Freaking Gaster himself starts cheering you on the closer you are to victory.
>eggs don't matterChapter 3 egg room is one of the most obtuse things to find in deltarune period
Has a unique look that put Kris in their light world attire INSIDE a dark world
We talked to the man behind the tree
Chapter 4's egg room is a fucking therapy session inside a hospital
>recruits either don't matter or you can only do worse than the default ending based on your behaviorThe blue Rudinn mentions the town's love being Strong or Cracked.
>>713687520>Its based on a real person!ZAMN
>>713687965...from what fucking universe did you come?
>>713687965>everyone here would end up hating Susie and Ralsei and liking Kris the mostHuh? It looks to me like everyone hates Kris and and likes Susie the most.
>>713687965The fuck are you talking about?
>>713687965anon are you ok?
>>713687965Havent seen anyone on any site ever hating Susie. Its Suselle people despise
So. What do you think the promise is?
>Ok kids, now spell the name of Noelle's dead sister
Was Toriel just having a laugh here or what
>>713686785Weather duo. They both have good designs and a funny name scheme.
If I could not recruit the robots I would attack them. Also their designs suck I try to remember them and then I look them up and they have completely different designs.
>>713687965whenever i see susie hate it's just a distaste for chapter 1 susie, in fact more people hated her 8 years ago
>>713688143Keeping the soul inside of him until sacrifice would ressurect dess
>>713688143When the light is running low and the shadows start to grow
And the places that you know seem like fantasy
There's a light inside your soul
That's still shining in the cold with the truth
The promise in our hearts
Don't forget, I'm with you in the dark
>>713687965I dont hate Susie or Ralsei I dont hate any character I only hate Noelle when she's around Susie Susielle feels so lame and kinda weird too like her obsession isnt really cute its bloody creepy
>>713688165She wanted Berdly to win
>>713687965Is that what they're saying at /utg/? It wouldn't surprise me, those fucking freaks.
>>713687965Ralsei was never going to be the best protagonist after he took off his Chapter 1 hat.
>>713686785Weather duo.
>makes more sense to their world>funny battle>good dialogue>sexThe only con is they did not have a specific theme song.
Oh wait now thinking about it, it was weird that we didn't see a single flower in chapter 3
Unless
>The pipes
There needs to be more chubby art of the doe and I'm tired of pretending I wouldn't do her from behind while she eats butterscotch pie.
>>713688290>people won't let it go
>>713688326We see 'withered' flowers (the grey things that wiggle) and there is a flower enemy in the video games.
>>713688326The pipes are literally just ICE-E. I'm serious.
>>713688350Looked cooler as a furry black mage I'm sorry gayboy but it is what it is
>>713688308>The only con is they did not have a specific theme song.ruder buster IS their song.
>>713688326anon ralsei takes a picture of half a golden flower in the second board.
>>713688350Fuck off Toby this is the only time where I'm mad we didn't get a black character
>>713688350there's something about his facesprites that feels off. like genuinely off. but his regular sprite is cute as fuck, I'll give him that.
>>713684451>Or is he planning an epic "Flowey" scene of talking directly to the play on how plushies of the characters you have are living their own life at night like in Toy Story movie??Probably this. NOOOOO DON'T OBJECTIFY THE LIGHTNERS
>>713688326The crowd throws flowers at us in the gameshow segment.
>>713688485>>713688350It's the bedroom eyes. He's fine when his eyes are normal.
>>713684451Honestly it would take a big ass reveal to make this take not cringe as fuck
And I don't mean just
>Ralsei was Kris plushie of AsrielKind of thing
Careful what you update next time, Toby
>>713688683He didn't have to make her taller than Kris
>>713688683Why did he do it?
>>713688428Eh, I wish it was more different.
>>713688667>bedroom eyeswhy the hell do you people say that? that's not what they look like at all.
>>713687478of course it is retard
Does anyone have the source for that comic of Noelle sticking her hand in Kris' torso?
>>713685218This picture is my greatest contribution to the Deltarune fandom.
>>713684451I'm hearing theories that we're going to see one or multiple of these characters as irredeemable. Maybe Suselle is going to be forced and ruin perceptions of these characters too.
>>713688326Why do anons flip out over the pipes? The point is that Tenna reflects a scene from Kris's childhood where he flooded the house and then witnessed his parents fighting, Tenna has all these childish flashbacks like playing Smash with Asriel and hating when Mom and Dad fight
>>713685273wheres kris though
>>713688795>I'm hearing theories that we're going to see one or multiple of these characters as irredeemableIt's just some retard got Mandela'd into believing that Toby said "I'm not making plushies because you might not like some of those characters", and everyone was repeating him without checking it.
>>713688795Suselle will fall to weird route Kriselle because Susie will see that Noelle likes her only because she reminds Noelle of Kris but minus the family baggage.
>>713688795There's a significant number of people that now unironically hate Sans now and the page for his plushie still has a RESTOCK PLANNED notice on it.
>>713688326there probably will be some big reveal where it turns out 'inconspicious background object' is actually someone who's been following up the whole time ala https://youtu.be/xLQXfmiBnHY?feature=shared
>>713688795So when Toby finally gonna give us ponytail Susie?
>>713687113invented by a Japanese goat
>>713688925>Possess Noelle>Make her romance SusieYou cannot stop me Krissy
>mini kris dies on screen if you let susie turn off the game.
>>713688795>beta noellewe were fucking ROBBED
List of things Tony "Hussie's second coming" Cox is too much of a hack to do:
>Main boss rush
>Schizo boss rush
>Starwalker
>Deltarune NG+
>Undertale hard mode
>>713689083>Deltarune NG+if Weird's working like I think it will then NG+ is guaranteed
>>713689006>there probably will be some big reveal where it turns out 'inconspicious background object' is actually someone who's been following up the whole time
I just had an actual fucking schizo nightmare?
I thought I was just laying in my bed, it didn't feel like I had fallen asleep. I don't remember what I was thinking/dreaming about before the event but I remember feeling calm/relaxed. Then everything kinda froze/tensed up, even though my eyes were closed, I could tell there was some kind of shift. I saw a still image of a low pixel staticy TV screen. Then there was a picture that was kind of like Sans' head, and a dialog box said "SANS , A"
and I think I heard something scary?
But, have you ever experienced "dream emotions" where you feel an intense feeling even though what is being presented to you isn't really like that or whatever? Well, that happened. I felt fucking terrified, to the point I literally woke up whimpering. I was like "aah, aah, aah, aah!"
And I felt something like pressure or pain or tension on my thighs for a little while.
Now im awake, I just typed this up, and like I said, I can't remember what I was dreaming or thinking about before the "nightmare".
>>713687981no you just become mizzle
>>713689150>>713689006We already forgotten about stray pixel in boss arenas, aren't we?
>>713688428It's also Shuttah's song
>>713689083>>713689129>NG+ with Noelle after one of the endingsToby pls
>>713689083>start reading post>think it's the usual bait>list is incredibly reasonable and the game already suffers from the lack thereof
>>713689210If we're talking about schizo dreams, might as well repost mine from /vrpg/
I had a weirdest dream about Deltarune, it seemed like some massively important lore dump, to the point I was actually trying to make screenshots inside the dream, but now that I woke up, it feels like some excerpt from a fanfic about some bizarre AU I know nothing about.
>Tasque Manager appears as a manager in a video game company
>she is discussing with her boss his decision to fire So Sorry, god why it was him, I wish it was anyone else
>that decision came from higher-ups, not as a direct order, but as a vague hint
>apparently he was a brilliant and influential game designer who recently began to forget things
>things they discussed during meetings, like implementing the ability to stab your friends with a sword ("Hey, a sword under ribcage is a nice interaction too!")
>TM angrily replies that those suggestions were never said aloud, people were just drawing squares on grid paper between each other
>she is also furious at the decision to include Ralsei, because it is somehow a massive disrespect to the real one due to his lack of agency
>she then says something like "I know that our bodies are given their shape by an anchor idol"
And then I woke up and had those five minutes when you think that you just saw some massive revelation in your dream before realizing it's a bunch of nonsense.
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>>713689129https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njgcjGojRKk
$20 the ending of the Susie route is going to be Skies Forever Blue.
>>713671387>>If they are the knight, why haven't they come home?Because she's dead and the Knight is her corpose
>Want to read/write Deltarune fanfic
>Honestly I'm only interested in Kris
>Tfw we barely know him as a person so everything I read/write will be non canon
I don't remember my dreams lately,I wish I could
>>713689336this but Noelle
>>713685347Rudy is dead in Undertale meaning he got sick and fucking DIED. Also why would there be an hospital in town if monsters never get sick?
>>713686710>>713686603Tobias has a sneezing fetish...
What is the most comprehensive Deltarune art site. I don't need the porn sites those are easy enough to get, I want the SFW stuff.
Please don't tell me to browse Twitter you can't automate shit on that.
What happen to the
>There's only 1 ending
Theory? It seems everyone has disregard it as of late
>>713689336>>713689419>Mantle sound effects>final boss is the dragon>game glitches out>Noelle always found glitches and secrets
>>713689083McPig perfected the boss rush trope, Toby shouldn't bother.
>>713689317>had those five minutes when you think that you just saw some massive revelation in your dream before realizing it's a bunch of nonsenseThis is such an amazing feeling for better or worse. It's really like your brain is just cheating out satisfaction chemicals or whatever. It's scary to think you could lose your grip on sanity and never figure it out because keeps telling you "yeah this makes sense".
>>713689261Mechanic locked IN!
why do all the cat darkners do this dance?
>>713689510wtf is this real?
>>713686964>Had to summon a titan just to stall BASE SUSIElol
lmao even
zozzle perchance
>>713689510Blame the futa girl
>>713689419>>713689482Susie will simply want to repeat the few days you can spend with each other over and over forever. Noelle's going to be DDLC/YOU and ME and HER where she infects the DEVICE and actively haunts you across multiple timelines.
>>713689510Mojo dance
Toby loves Chrono Trigger/Cross
>>713689083>Schizo boss rushPeople argue on whether Sans or the Knight is harder, but if you put the Knight and Gerson back to back it'd undeniably be harder than Sans because it'd have around the same turn count.
>>713689510FRIEND infection is spreading from the Mike room and it's turning all the Cat darkners into its puppets.
>>713689510>Japanese humor.
>>713689478Susie will not accept anything as an "ending" until you do your absolute best.
>>713669918 (OP)>catholic imagery in the pedo rape gamejews arent subtle
>>713689698I get the impression that all the recruitment weโre doing is going to bite us in the ass big timeโฆ
What was Toriel like when she was young?
>>713689750It's going to be great if she asks us to do anything, and I mean ANYTHING, to get a different ending in the 'normal' ending. Which leads us to Snowgrave. It's a great way to build on Undertale's themes: by making you have to commit atrocities to the characters you love in order to achieve a better outcome in the greater picture.
>>713689798for the normal route, totally
but for Weird, that's a HUGE stat boost
>>713689835Full Snowgrave route will never be required. You'll just dip into it for some good ideas, as Gerson said. It will have a bittersweet ending, but at (You)r expense.
>>713689083>>713689798>a later chapter will have a boss rush where you have no choice but to kill all your recruits
>>713689869>recruited everyone in the normal route but chose violence in the weird oneFUCK
>>713687965If anything the two most fallen from grace are Toriel and Noelle.
Toriel needs no explanation, I hope.
Noelle is just a walking cringe factory whenever she's not a (You) assault victim. God I hope Chapter 5 gives her normal route self some fucking character development like 4 did for the squad.
>>713689908I do wonder if there's perks for aborting later, otherwise just doing the least harmful part of Snowgrave for the Thorn Ring seems a little milquetoast.
>>713689242Wait. Are there any weird stray pixels on either chapter 3 or 4?
>>713689985Still reckon this map is the key to everything. You'll NEED to do aborted Snowgrave because getting to chapter 4 to go further with it means you've missed the turn into the alternate routes. Chatper 3 gets an extra key on a second playthrough for a reason.
>>713671905now this is rent free
i hate pronoun nonsense as much as everybody, but it doesnt make sense to hate on someone randomly using 'they' because its a normal thing to do. people with no concept of gender politics occasionally do this shit
>>713689985>I do wonder if there's perks for aborting laterYes. Berdly's in coma, that means you've left a world a better place.
>>713689762FUCK YOU GRANDMA
>>713689908How about half-Snowgrave?
>turns out Noelle doesn't rejoin on Snowgrave>you have to abort Snowgrave to make the twisted sword>the twisted sword is vital for the real ending
>>713686785dude you may as well be asking us to pick between muffet and jerry
>>713689819Total slut. So she's pretty much the same.
>>713689482>ribbons>LITERALLY THE MC'S NEIGHBOR
>>713689985>least harmfulHow am I supposed to run a castle town without the cats!?
>>713689998The one in chapter 3 is tricky because it's sometimes hidden behind Tenna.
>>713689941>Noelle is just a walking cringe factory whenever she's not a (You) assault victim.this
i also feel ralsei became a cringe factory once he started bitching and moaning about the prophecy
susie keeps winning however, i went from disliking her in c1 to liking her a lot
>>713689918>>713689798We're not doing Everhood, guys. Though if you insist, the amount of Darkners you have will determine the length of prison sentence for Kris and Susie when they are arrested for theft.
>>713689510I thought the dude on the left was wearing a fedora, how did I not notice that it was meant to be cat ears
>>713686603You can rub the bodyguard remote's pecs...?
>>713689798After hearing that one weird discolored Ruddin comment on it, it would strange if nothing came from it.
>>713690204>tfw Susie's Mary Sue powers are so strong they work in real life>tfw they work on me tooShe really is just the best.
>>713690257They're coombrained. You push his buttons (literally).
>>713689998there's a random stray pixel inside the church after the titan
Time traveler here, I'll try to make it really short without spoiling too much.
>Ralsei will be hated by the end of the game and given the Junko treatment by the fantasy
>Carol will play a huge part in the last chapters
>your vessel isn't gone, just hidden in the last chapters and will require NG+
>NG+ is how you rescue Dess, Twisted Sword is not for Kris or Noelle
>you'll only meet Gaster in NG+
>Asgore will come very close to tragic characterization, as the chapters go on it just "twists the knife" about it since Toby loves seeing him suffer
>Alphys will have a really stupid moment during a dark fountain that will make people hate her even more than True Lab
>Catti is very aware of Dark Fountains
>Suselle will happen, just not in the way you think and will make a lot of shippers bitter in the end
>>713690257ancient undertale technique
it works on gay knights too
>>713690132More like Muffet and So Sorry.
>>713690251They've got either cat or bunny ears hidden under their hats.
>>713690307>>713690257You play on his chest like on the bongo.
>>713671387Itโs Rudy, when Undyne gets kidnapped the screen scrolls really fast implying he could maintain his Knight form in the light world. I think thatโs what the game is setting up anyway
>>713690291I hate how much Toby sucks her off and has obvious Toby favoritism, but I can't dislike Susie. Noelle is the problem, not Susie
>>713690345what's the junko treatment?
We're never meeting Gaster.
>>713690415Irredeemable evil bitch that is still loved and forgiven
>>713690345>you'll only meet Gaster in NG+that's literally the first thing you do in the entire game
>>713690410My brain broke writing this
>>713689869IIRC, the statboost you get for LOSTing enemies is identical to the end of chapter fountain seal boost so you literally get nothing from the kills except slight advantages during the chapter itself. Correct me if I'm wrong though, can't seem to find more detailed analysis on the wiki.
>>713689798I don't know why you'd think that.
After all, your heart is the ark.
>>713690415corpse raped by her followers
>>713690503the killbuff is temporary for everyone except Noelle
What if dess molested noelle and that's why she was a lesbian lusting for susie
>>713690415mass brainwashing
>>713690613Dess molested Noelle then vanished
then she possessed Kris so she could do it again
>>713690410Dude, you haven't seen what REAL creator favoritism looks like.
>>713675454Noelle's surprise at Carol being home early means she generally has ample time for Knight activities, but this time rushed over to stop Susie from interacting with the guitar.
>>713675794Exactly and I could see her watching them to make sure they've left before rushing back to the church.
>>713690154Why would you need cats for Castle Town?
Ok, so who knew Gerson that well so that heโs so true to his live self in the first and third sanctuaries?
I highly doubt it was Dess, sheโs too young.
Alvin knight schizo, please, not today.
>>713690686Chat does this guarantee Susie Megalovania
>>713690714For the cat cafe, of course.
>>713686883It's a chaos dunk reference
>>713688683>true>kris isnt yellow, and has a normal skin tone>waiaminute>hand is a normal skin tone for the snowgrave scene too>that emphasis on "lighting of the mind" in susie's dark world.oh fuck.
kris is not yellow, hometown and the monsters are not composed of vibrant nearly garish colors.
we simply see things through his lens since we reside within him.
the lighting changes when we assume direct control because we override how kris sees things.
KRIS HAS BEEN SHOWING US A FALSITY THIS WHOLE TIME.
THIS IS WHY TOBY'S NOT DOING LIGHTNER MERCHANDISE YET.
>>713690672I've never read homosuck
>>713690754You don't need that...
>>713690585Does Chapter 1 get a killbuff? Considering you don't LOST enemies it could be useful for Jevil.
>>713690358the robot guys aren't THAT bad.
>>713690742The mayor, a teacher or someone else working at the school.
>>713690672didn't Hussie make an entire self-insert explicitly for the purpose of thirsting after her?
>>713690714https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V_wyZdgVMg
>>713690851Yes. I. Do.
>>713690851Nu uh. A cat cafe is an essential part of every proper town!
>>713690887So it's only good for Snowgrave Spamton specifically. That's sad.
>>713691004there's also the knight.
but everyone else is easy enough that it doesnt really matter.
>>713690694>Noelle's surprise at Carol being home early means she generally has ample time for Knight activities, but this time rushed over to stop Susie from interacting with the guitar.The issue is that Carol arrives at the house at the same time in both normal and weird routes. And in weird Kris never learns that Susie has the guitar until they leave the house. Meaning that it couldn't have been Carol on the phone with Kris, since the caller was rushing over to stop Susie.
I still think it was Catti. We thought we were only hearing snippets of the person on the other end, but if it's Catti then they just talk like that. It can't be Dess since there's no way she could make an appearance in broad daylight to stop Susie, it can't be Carol since she was coming home at that point regardless, so it had to be a third party who was welcome in Noelle's house and could show up uninvited - and Catti is close enough to Noelle to do that.
The story about her and Kris trying their hand at summoning a demon as kids is also famous enough that even Susie's heard of it.
>>713690742Dess and Asriel were both in Gerson's class at school.
>>713690672I've read just act 1 of Homestuck so far. I think the humans are cool. Does their story resolve before all this troll shit happens?
>>713691101Nothing really resolves.
In the end, it's clear that H*ssie really had no clue where he was taking things in the long run.
>>713689596>susie wants to repeat the game over and over to avoid the bad end>susie is dragon blazers' dragon>if skies forever blue is dragon blazers, the dragon is the final boss>if you have a broken battery and can't save, being killed by the final boss would reset you to the beginningi am definitely reading way too much into this
>>713691078It's cruel to give Cattifags hope.
>>713691101Nope, the troll shit is deeply intertwined. They're entertaining, at least. Even Vriska...at first.
>>713686964The roaring FRAUD is my bitch.
>>713691101You poor bastard, you don't realize what you got yourself into. I hope you have read Problem Sleuth at least.
>>713689221Haha wouldn't that be crazy or what
>>713684451>adult plushiefags assblastedwtf I love toby now
>>713691101No
The Trolls get introduced as supporting characters starting in act 3 and but are good because its only a handful and they are mostly the fun charismatic ones.
Then the trolls get top billing for the first half of act 5 and a shit tone more are introduced including the one in anon's pic rel.
Then because Hussie was more interested in studying and fucking with the fanbase like some sort of shitty amoral scientist this start getting bad in Act 6.
Also you can stop after act 5 but the story continues.
She actually finishers her arc in act 5 in a pretty good way but Hussie loved the character and so brought her back to the limelight for the worse
>>713690291I don't want to fuck Susie. I want to wingman Kris into fucking Susie. Kris has lots of interactions with Susie even without my intervention.
>Nostalgiafag crabs in the bucket using a Deltarune thread to post about something else and try to get people to read a dogshit comic they know turns into dogshit
>>713691078The Knight clearly and obviously has antlers. Toby isn't that shit at his job that he would accidentally design it like that nor would anybody on the team be that incompetent to not notice either.
The only candidates are Holiday family members and "timing" does not disqualify any of them because the Knight presumably moves far faster than any of the characters. I think having any of the legitimately decent people like Noelle or Rudy be the Knight would be fucking stupid and lazy "you never saw it coming" writing, which leaves Jess or Carol. And we shouldn't be fucking angry if it was Carol because there's nothing wrong with the most obvious candidate.
>>713691401Oh, no, you misunderstand me. I fully believe that Dess is the Knight, I just don't think that Kris was on the phone with the Roaring Knight.
>>713691394Dude, what kind of monsters do you think we are? No Homestuck fan is so cruel as to wish this fate unto someone else. We always warn people to stay away from it for their own good.
>>713691394i feel sorry for all the children who got forced to read homestuck because of their unfuckable faggot older brothers/sisters
>>713691387>studying and fucking with the fanbase like some sort of shitty amoral scientistgaster is andrew hussie theory
>>713690910Maybe. It might have also been played as a joke like the formspring Q&A about fattening her up to the point a wall would need to be removed to get her out of the house via crane.
>>713691101You have to stop reading Homestuck. This is no joke it is arguably the worst work of fiction ever created not because it was just bad but because of how it squandered the massive amount of good it once had.
Analyzing Homestuck's failure would earn an academic a PhD if literature studies wasn't completely shit.
>>713678009First Spamelle now this
>>713691443NTA but it had to be Carol on the phone, maybe someone else too but definitely Carol at least.
But yeah Roaring Knight is also definitely Dess.
I'm excited to see how they all connect to Kris.
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>>713691387If Chapter 6 of Deltarune swaps us to a totally different party, that being the actual three heroes of the prophecy, I'm going to be Somewhat Concerned.
>>713691606You already know exactly how this goes.
>>713691591I still don't get where Spamelle came from
>>713691101Homestuck ends at like Cascade
>>713690345Actual time traveler here, chapters 5 through 7 didn't come out because the world was destroyed by nuclear warfare and the human race is slowly dying an agonizing death.
>>713691663don't know either, but my guess would be that it's probably just the usual AU brainrot.
>>713691605I dunno, as I said her behavior wasn't altered by the phone call at all. I think she's a red herring - both she and Asgore both show up to "stop" Susie from getting the code, but Carol shows up in both timelines regardless of whether Kris calls, and Asgore was too busy scrubbing toilets and staring at Carol's conspiracy corkboard to talk to his kid on the phone.
And it can't have been Dess as the knight since she's missing. She couldn't have made an appearance at the Holiday estate without fucking everything up. Had to have been someone else who thought they could show up at Noelle's house uninvited without giving the game away.
>>713686785Should've thrown C. round and Jackenstein in there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUrkuP8YXig
>>713691778>>713691663It's because Noelle says the Dealmakers are familiar to her, and then one of the Spamton Sweepstakes Twitter questions answered was about if Noelle was somehow Spamton's mom, and he rephrased it as "You're asking if that [Hochi mama] is my [mama hochi]?"
I can't remember, are you not allowed to attack Sweet Cap n Cakes for whatever reason, instead of dancing?
>>713691539Hussie would never root for us
>>713691990you can attack them, they just heal with almond milk like c. round
>>713692019Dogshit game with fake choices...,
>>713692019it's good for skipping their turns
>>713690154tasques are so cute bros
>>713691881There was also a brief trend of making the party members be influenced by the sctizo boss gear in art.
Susie got Jevilified and Ralsei the Spamton treatment.
Then someone did a Noelle with Spamton and it made people horny as so stuck around
>>713688683Oh God what the fuck
>>713691829maybe kris warned carol in snowgrave before entering noelle's room?
>carol listen, i NEED you over here now. susie's trying to find the code, the soul is murderous, and noelle wants to talk to me. things could go downhill fast.it does take you a bit to get to the room, after all. plenty of time to tell noelle to wait a minute and make a short call.
>>713692037You WERE told your choices don't matter
I just want to bury myself in her fur... It's not fair... Where are all the monster women at?
https://youtu.be/VbW2GNsoQ9c
>>713692401Eeeeh, I'm not so sure about that? I don't think Kris had the chance to make the call, considering it looks like they go straight to Noelle's room after putting you away. And Carol still arrives at about the same time, instead of earlier.
>>713692476There's bullshit though because they still matter a lot.
You were also told that your ranks don't matter in the chapter 3 challenges and in actuality they lock you out from very important content.
I wonder what will make for Ralsei to use this face
>>713692662Anal without lube.
>>713692662Susie's double futa schlongs
>>713691606The Heroes are going to be Mettaton, Mad Mew Mew, and Napstablook actually.
>>713688598starwalker is the only exception. starwalker spices up everything
>>713692662UT/DR Funko! Pops released.
>>713692662should i post some of the uhhh... fanart, of him making this face :)
>>713692662his first time with Susie
Do you guys think we'll be able to revert the snowgrave route after chapter 4 or are we fully locked in? I don't see how toby could handwaive everything to resume on the 'normal' path.
>>713684451I believe he still didn't let go of the humans part and we're witnessing some simulation like Chapter 3 where we'll learn who the real Kris/Susie/Noelle is
>>713693021You can probably fail it in every chapter where it shows up, considering this is has been true in every step so far.
>>713693037And Gaster is just the DM, trying to distract everyone from whatever fucked up reality awaits beyond the darkness
>>713692662Didn't he already used it to stop Berdley/Queen from doing the roaring?
>>713693021>Try to back out during the festival by claiming it's all a prank>Get raped by Noelle
>>713693229>Two sets of choices>one is Noelle's>the other is Kris's>Kris trying to stop is paired with Noelle keeping it up>Proceed is paired with Noelle acting submissive
>>713692568nah the timescale is just a bit fucked.
normal route:
>soul exploration bit takes longer>eight minutes of kris playing the piano>basement scene>the whole conversation in dess's room.>PHONE CALL HERE>the guitar scene>carol comes homeweird route:
>no real soul exploration, straight to noelle's room.>phone call potentially here>conversation with noelle>carol comes homeit does take her a little longer to arrive from the guitar scene, but it makes sense when you think about it
>normal route>"SUSIE HAS THE GUITAR">"FUCK! I'LL BE OVER THERE IN A SECOND">weird route>"carol listen things could go south fast, susie is looking for the code and the soul is-">"alright fine i'll be over in a minute to kick you two out. i doubt susie will be able to find it that quickly..."if its the rain that you're caught up on who do you think summoned it?
>>713671905Incurable brain disease
>>713690672I will never stop being mad.
>>713689941I would add Sans to the list.
>>713691662>chapter 6 chapter 5 chapter 1 twiceheh
>>713688683Are these real sprites?
>>713693759What makes her so bad? Never been into homestuck on account of becoming a hopeless hipster around the age it was big Fuck Touhou btw.
>>713669918 (OP)Rudy and Asgore are working together and Carol has nothing to do with any of it. But /v/ isn't ready for that truth nuke yet.
>>713693871Villain Sue deliberately written to piss off Hussie's fanbase. Originally she was fine because, as a short-sighted selfish bitch, she kept self-sabotaging. And then she just stopped failing entirely.
>>713688901In the cuck closet, he's not allowed to use the cuck chairs because he could get a potential pity fuck from Noelle and/or Dess.
>>713690345>you'll meet Gaster0/10 you didn't even try to make it seem real
>>713690805This would be the most based possible explanation for no lightner merch.
>>713694084Who is Hussie?
>>713693871Her character arc has been finished in a satisfactory way and she is dead. She is brought back in a literal in-universe retcon that completely changes a good portion of the plot, resulting in her effectively hijacking the finale at the expense of everything that could have been interesting.
>>713694182Andrew Hussie, the author of Homestuck.
>>713694182sluts who try to steal your brother
>>713690805Kris's skin is like green
that can't be healthy
Kris WILL date the bird and you WILL love it
>>713689083>>Undertale hard modeAt this point he is prolly scared to do it.
Leaving the beloved product incomplete is better than fumbling the conclusion. He's the GRRM of indie games.
>>713692662>inb4 it's just a yawn
>>713689819Rudy straight up tells Kris that she was a complete drunk slut
>>713690805>>kris isnt yellow, and has a normal skin tonehe has the skintone of a rotting corpse in this scene, the hell are you talking about
>>713688683How the fuck did you get these?
>>713694462>Kris is an animated corpsemakes sense I guess
doesn't explain Noelle's sweater being desaturated though
>>713694384It's about as likely as the Alarm Clock app actually coming to fruition, and that was one of the UT Kickstarter stretch goals.
>>713691201I think you're reading into it just enough actually.
>>713690107Bitch.
Take off the dress.
>>713693037>>713693203>Tenna tells the party are Act(e)rs and should play the part
>>713694539Worn out with time, if Kris is an actual corpse
>>713690415having shitty circle bullet patterns
I need college Asriel bussy
>>713694614Noelle wouldn't DARE wear a desaturated Christmas sweater
>>713694493They don't show up in the data files for chapter 4 so probably fanmade
>>713690805>>713694462>the weird pause filter when Kris tries to fully suppress your ability to respond to Susie is also him losing a grip on you>the end goal of Weird Route was never to give Kris freedom, but give (You) freedom, so you can see the world for what it truly is through the objective lens of either your vessel or a completely mindbroken Noelle
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>>713688485His facesprite follows the Toriel/Asriel facesprites style. All Ralsei needed was a more flattering angle, some fanmade sprites do that
https://gamebanana.com/mods/493817
Mod got updated with a csx script, so it's now compatible with other mods.
>>713694714It updated more than once
>>713694686UWOOOOGH SEX SEX THS SEX SEXO HUOOGH
Papyrus is the secret boss of ch.6 and he is going to rock your shit. You remember the switch between frail undertale Gerson and Deltarune Gerson? Well remember that Flowey needed 4 vines to restrain Papyrus, and only 2 for everyone else including Sans; Papyrus never got to use his 'ultimate attack'; and whatever occurs in Deltarune is going to make him hate humans with a passion by the time he swaps dimensions.
>>713694808This but unironically
>>713694784Those exmaples faces also feel off. I think the current face sprites for Ralsei give a little more room for expression, in at least the case of him lowering and raising his head.
>>713694259Suselle lost, Kerdly lost. I would've told you to fuck off to reddit but you're no longer welcome even there, scum.
>>713694807My current version doesn't have them and I don't see an update queued on Steam. All the stuff involving the Weird Route in Ch. 4 is labeled as "Side_B".
>>713694867Yeah I didn't choose the best example, but I couldn't find the ones where he was given his chapter 1 head angle
>>713694686this changes everything
>>713690805Huh.. so that's why Carol has a more muted fur and hair colour I guess
>>713694857I wasn't being ironic.
>>713694928ITS OVER!
MIKE, TEAR DOWN THE THEORIES...
>>713695115(and order a whole barrel of wine, we have to forget that this ever happened!)
>>713669918 (OP)>theyslit your throat you subhuman tranny.
>>713694674She wouldn't unless in her vision the sweater was all bright and colorful as she tries to look at things
>>713695196>cucking your dad and his bfngmi
>>713695258Well it's unknown who it is right now. So they is accurate seeing as it's unconfirmed whether or not the Knight is Dess, therefore the Knight's gender is unknown for now.
>>713694928Did you check every version though? You can download them all with something like SteamCMD and then browse the data.win file.
>>713695196>implying Rudy wouldn't be proud as fuck
>>713679484Wasn't there a line about Kris pretending to pull a heart pillow out of his chest or something when he was younger?
>>713695258we don't know if its a he or a she yet, ranjeet
control your feelings of brown rage
>>713695258>>713695340There's literally only two possible non-joke candidates and both are female. Don't give me this shit.
>>713693021A save is definitely locked in after 4. Once the dialogue boxes stop giving you an out towards the end of the scene it's already over.
You might be able to redeem yourself at some point but there is no way Toby would let us return to the normal route like nothing happened after violating Noelle.
>>713695370literally canon
Why does everyone pretend raisel isn't asriel
>>713694798I can use the mod with NXRune? Awesome.
>>713695372Yeah, Noelle remarks on it when you interact with one of the heart pillows in the Holiday estate.
>(When Kris was little, they'd take one of these...)>(Then pretend to "rip out their heart" and chase me.)
>>713695418Because that's a blatant red herring.
>>713695367That sounds like a pain in the ass. The post phrased it like they got snuck into THIS update. You expect me to believe nobody pulled those from the game the second shit happened? They had rose sprites and stuff already but just conveniently missed the sprites labeled 'TRUE'??
Why does everyone pretend Israel, I mean Ralsei, is an ally?
>>713694716>>the weird pause filter when Kris tries to fully suppress your ability to respond to Susie is also him losing a grip on youAnother interpretation of that scene I heard was because we are making a soul inside of Noelle from her perspective see wouldn't have heard Susie's question and that's why the dialogue box was empty during that scene.
>>713695418Because we solved him already.
>>713695418ralsei is my cum rag
>>713695397Motherfucker the Knight could literally just be an amalgamation of people that it's killed
Can Toby hide his own files when you install?
>>713695474Alright then, I'll check it later myself. If I'll find anything then I'll post it here.
>>713695510Anything short of them being an existing mentioned character would be a cop-out and therefore not worth considering.
>>713695510Obviously he's Kris' headband and we can't misgender that.
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>>713694798>out-liked the spiteful pronoun highlighter modGamebanana is truly based
>>713688350The one thing you like about yourself is SHIT and you should DIE you LOSER
>>713695561I'm already doing it.
The first iteration of the game doesn't have it. Going to check the other two.
>>713695596It has a giant, singular eye.
>>713695793is it sans undertale
>>713684451I think he's just a turboautist
>>713695491Kris is the same as Noelle though. Susie's a stinky weirdo just like Dess who matches his goblin antics and he attached to her super hard [almost to a performative degree in Ch4]
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>>713695765Maybe we can find more secrets in the switch 2 rom... once someone figures out how to unpack/unencrypt it or whatever the fuck.
>>713695793bros loox confirmed for knight?????
>>713695918>Susellefags are now pretending to be Kressfags to argue that the only reason Kris looks up to Susie is because of Dess tooYou're some obvious niggers
>>713695968>about to spare Dess>'Finally, somebody gets it'>credits rollkinography
>>713694887>Krusincel this intimidated by the CANONICAL route featuring the STORY'S PROTAGONIST BerdlyLmao
>>713695918>thinking Kris is projecting Dess onto Susie when he diner scene where him and Susie draw on the window, just like he used to do with Asriel, makes it painfully obvious he's projecting Asriel
>>713695793Not really the point anon. Theorizing that it's not a mentioned character is a dead end. Is it possible? Sure. But there's not really anything talk about if that's what you think. It means that all the theories were useless and no one could actually know. That's not exactly productive to discussion.
>>713695947I don't see anything about it anywhere in any of the updates. So I've been successfully tricked into wasting 20 minutes looking for something. Switch 2 ROM editing would be fun to see if there's anything hidden in it, but I'm not sure how far off that is.
>>713692547Underrated fan track, didn't expect it to be so well made
>>713692662He slammed his penis in the car door
How will she react to Krisโ betrayal?
>>713688003>Freaking Gaster himself starts cheering you on the closer you are to victory.Where?
>>713696357Considering how she reacted to Lancer "betraying" her...
>>713696359Knight boss fight, when you reload the save he starts hyping you up to try and win
>>713695551I love how crazy Kris's life is with the soul
>Muh edgelord chuuni whatever emo boy being FORCED to BEFRIEND his school buddies and HUG gay goat against his will while he tries to prevent this demonic heart from unraveling his plan, in the meanwhile he teams up with the soul to cleanse fountains and gets dragged kicking and screaming to BEFRIEND even more GOOD MEMORIES (darkners) from his happy childhood against his fucking willShit's so balls ot the wall wild that I don't think event he weird route is that bad, for all we know the soul might LOOK like they're ruining Noelle but that schizo fucking demon looking thing might just end up possessing her to bang Kris lovingly AGAINST HIS WILL
>>713684618How much is this the player and how much is Kris just a natural trash goblin.
>>713696331Kris isn't black he's obviously Aryan
>>713696357Vs. Susie 2 is straight up guaranteed.
>>713696357>Gets mad>Finds out about (You)>Gets REAL MAD
>>713696359If you make it the Knight's last few attacks, he starts saying how despite you fighting the inevitable you're making progress
>>713689819Big hands for a mom
>>713696480>then realizes that she was more friends with (you) than Kris
>>713696446>NOOOO! DON'T SUCK MY COCK! DON'T SUCK MY COCK NOELLE! NOOOOOOOOOOO!
>>713696357Mythical levels of seethe
>>713696357Depending on how it goes down when it's revealed, either with absolute heartbreak and a total meltdown into probably running home and shutting herself off for a whole chapter, before showing and giving us Vs Susie again; or calling Kris an idiot for not telling her the whole story earlier and letting her help whatever it is Kris is trying to do.
Either way, I doubt a lot that the game will end without Susie forgiving Kris. That'd be beyond depressing considering how much they each depend on each other right now.
>>713696359After completing Chapter 3 and reloading your save, whenever you start dying to The Knight after making a bit of progress, Gaster intervenes to remark on your persistence and offers faster retries, and if you get especially far, he's genuinely hyped that you almost pulled it off and encourages you to keep it up.
>>713696357She's gonna lose it, Susie seething about betrayal and being kept in the dark has been teased since CH1
>>713696540That's when she gets apocalyptic levels of angry
>>713696357>Knows about the SOUL now>Knows that Ralsei has been doing nothing by lying by omission and has conveniently not said anything about Kris bashing her head in to protect the Knight>Knows that either Kris or her has to die for the prophecy to passEither Chapter 5 or 6 is going to have her on a Lancer level crashout.
>>713696357very badly
>The heart just hops out of kris and lets him take the brunt of her meltdown
>>713684451God, he really just is mirror universe ZUN. Up to and including being incredibly pretentious about marketing and merchandizing.
This does make me wonder if we aren't heading towards a Odd Taxi esque twist where the entire world is actually normal and Kris is just weird.
>>713696540You guys keep saying this shit even though the game does everything possible to prove the exact opposite.
>>713696357Well anon lets just say there's a reason Kris carries around a giant fucking shield. It's going to be like the ch1 Lancer fight only worse
>>713696652>Just as she's about to curb stomp Kris' head she sees the heart>It tries to float off>She then remembers something about SOULS that Gerson told her about years ago>Realises that (You) were possessing Kris and making him do that shit
>>713696357Seeing how fucking angry she was just because Ralsei didn't mention how the old man was a special darkner
She's probably going to lose her fucking mind, remember the crystal showed Susie staring at Kris coldly.
>>713696619>Kris bashing her head in to protect the Knightthis never happened
>>713696817>Ralsei says "How could you??"Why would he say that to the Knight that has been beating the ever loving shit out of you and your friends with a fucking sword for the last few minutes
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Kris betrays Susie, she finds out that (You) are the one she's been friend and she starts a fight with Kris who has just done something not forgivable.
Are you letting yourself get hit while Kris auto-strikes Susie?
>>713696680If the big twist of Deltarune is some Odd Taxi/"It was all a dream" bullshit I will fly to Japan and kick Toby in the goddamn dick
What do you think the dark crystal showing Noelle whispering to Kris meant?
>>713696883Have you considered that it wasn't a "How could you?" in the moral sense but in the skill sense?
>>713696883you schizos are going to get made fun of in a future chapter just like miketards
>>713696817>uwu my poor little innocent blorbo would never hurt their friends!The fucker's keeping SOMEONE ELSE'S SOUL in a cage at the foot of their bed and using them as a slave to close fountains. People without SOULs are inherently sociopaths. The real Kris is literally incapable of feeling empathy for other people.
>>713696817>The attack comes from the left side>Ralsei looks horrified and says "How Could You?"Nah you're right. Kris totally didn't do it and that's all just a red herring lol
>>713696817The Knight's slashes are red as seen with Tenna
The 3rd Zelda dungeon has Kris kill his friends for the sake of advancing
The slash that took out both Susie and Ralsei came from left to right
Ralsei looks utterly betrayed
Kris gets knighted immediately after
Occam's Razor, Kris did it while we were in cutscene mode
>>713671905The fuck are they teaching kids in school? You always use neutral pronouns when discussing people you donโt personally know.
>>713696978Do we really have any confirmation on that though? Chara had a soul when she fell into the underground, and for all we know Kris was pranking people, even if he came off as more of a prick than anything.
>>713696963It doesn't make any sense to express yourself that way, Ralsei's dialogue after the battle even reinforces this idea.
>>713696967Mike ended up being tied to FRIEND, so I don't see what the issue is
>>713696935I honestly doubt it. The twist in Odd taxi worked because it was hinted at from the start and the animal nature of the characters was never commented on by anybody but the MC. Meanwhile, the monster characters in Odd Taxi are clearly monsters, refer to themselves as monsters, and generally have monsters traits.
The Chara twist in Undertale worked on the same principal. Playing the game again it's funny how pretty much none of the characters actually refer to your name. So, I doubt Toby would pull off a rug pull this severe.
>>713697065>Ralsei's dialogue after the battle even reinforces this idea.only when you're off your pills
>>713697056Kris mostly just seems kind of like a freakish loner. Going by Noelle new girl online diary... thing he was always kind off and seemingly suicidal.
Can someone post the schizo pippin gif?
>>713697106>YOU were so brave>...Isn't that right, KRIS?Kris did the swoon, read between the lines. Ralsei knew they were meant to lose but he didn't expect it to be Kris to take them down
>>713697151Yeah, and there's a slight difference between depressed and incapable of feeling empathy.
>>713697181you're schizophrenic
>>713697106>(You) were so brave and yet..>our struggle is just beginning... isn't it?>... isn't it Kris?It's basically screaming in your face that the party was just betrayed by Kris, with Toriel having a horrible nightmare
>>713696978>The real Kris is literally incapable of feeling empathy for other people.Yeah that's why when you kill Susie and Ralsei in the Ramb/mantle videogame Kris literally flinches and looks away, right?
>>713697236none of that dialogue could possibly be interpreted that way, you're retarded
>>713696772When was that crystal scene?
>>713697006>The slash that took out both Susie and Ralsei came from left to rightI'm pretty sure it was actually right to left, by how Susie and Ralsei are knocked back by the attack. That just means that it was a backhand swing from Kris, since the curve of the cut still indicates that it came from them.
>>713696978He literally comforts Noelle when soulless
>>713696978Kris is definitely starting to feel conflicted, I believe in the end of Chapter 4 he's just about to jump off his window and talk with Susie but is reminded of his promise by the phone
>>713697301Chapter 2 in the light world when you're with Susie
>>713697253to be fair he does have the soul at that point so he could feel empathy, but what's wierd is that his sprite is slightly gray when he turns away, and it's not a matter of lightning either.
>>713697236Some people legit have zero media literacy, shit like this is why subtley is dead. The only way Toby could make it even clearer is if the knight said HAHA THANK YOU KRIS FOR SWOONING which would be retarded.
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>>713696331>Make Kris brown on a brown background>Further cement this retardation by dulling their Dark World design to seem more "black">Realise Susie stands out so dull her colors too>Completely ruin the picture's palette for the same of virtue signallingI hate artfags who can't into basic color and contrast
>>713697352>he does have the soul at that pointThe soul is literally in the screen at that moment.
Kris is a bad kid. Toriel should have spanked him way more often.
>>713697336if Kris is working with the knight she'd probably be pissed if you mindbroke her relative, so it could just as well be a selfish thing
>>713697286>Attack from the left>Ralsei's reaction>Kris gets knighted>Ralsei's words at the endIts obvious Kris did it
>>713697253They're looking to the side of the stage, not back towards you. They're looking at Ramb.
>>713697336They only do that to get her to never talk about Snowgrave again and retrieve the ThornRing. They're more concerned with shutting her up so you can't hear than comforting her in chapter 4, she leaves the conversation feeling absolutely miserable.
>>713697414Did Noelle write this
>>713697407I will do it in her place
>>713697435>Attack from the leftit's note
>the restliterally none of that is indicative of anything
The blackened knife is Kris's knife, not the Roaring Knight's sword
>>713697487You are baiting or genuinely dense, oh also
>Knight nowhere to be seen during the attack
>>713697576neither, you're just a schizo
>>713697546the knight did that btw
>>713697514...wait. Black Knife. The Knight disappears when Kris cuts Susie and Ralsei.
Is the Knight LITERALLY the Black Knife? Kris blushes when Susie grabs it, they have an emotional moment with the Knight, the Knight seems like a black version of the Amalgamates...is Kris's knife a Darkner/monster Amalgamate with Dess's soul?
>>713697705That would be interesting, but unfortunately the Knight escapes into the locked door in the church, then Kris gives Susie his knife
>He he, let's go fulfill the prophecy guys!
>Yes, the prophecy that says we have to sacrifice someone!
>Will it be Noelle? Oooooh, what if it's Susie? Will Ralsei need to be sacrificed too? Ha ha, funny prophecies amirite? Oh man we should start to consider how we're going to do it, ritual knife or just throw them into a pit? Ha ha. We just have to go along with the story, guys!
>Wait... Kris, did you just IMPEDE US ON PURPOSE?!?!
>YOU FUCKING TRAITOR HOW FUCKING DARE YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING TRAITOR HOW DARE YOU NOT JUST MINDLESSLY ADVANCE WITH THE PROPHECY AND INSTEAD DON'T OPPOSE THE KNIGHT YOU FUCKING TRAITOR I HOPE YOUR HEAD GETS FUCKING CAUGHT UNDER YOUR FATHER'S TRUCK WHEEL I HOPE SUSIE JUST FUCKING TURNS ON YOU AND KILLS YOU AND HATES YOU FOREVER HOW FUCKING DARE YOU NOT JUST FUCKING KILL ALL YOUR FRIENDS YOU HEARTLESS FUCKING BASTARD AND ALL FOR WHAT FOR A POSSIBILITY TO BRING DESS BACK HOLY FUCKING SHIT YOU FUCKING BASTARD HOW DARE YOU TRY TO SAVE AND PROTECT ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS
>>713697705Isn't the Knight literally using Noelle's mom's katana? And the bullets are patterned after the shurakins.
>>713697789we know it's you Dess
>>713697789Anon...if we killed the Roaring Knight then and there, the prophecy wouldn't happen at all. Nobody would have to die except maybe Dess and Kris, who were the ones planning on causing a potential mass extinction event in the first place. Even Ralsei thought we were about to change the ending.
>>713697916There is no circumstance where the roaring knight is killed there.
>>713697916The prophecy says you have to oppose the Knight. It doesn't even mention actually defeating the Knight, just that you repeatedly fight, which has already happened several times.
What part of killing the Knight fucking says you're not fulfilling the prophecy? Kris just straight up not opposing the Knight is a far bigger fuck you to the prophecy.
>>713697789The one who's making sure the prophecy is fulfilled is Kris
Both Susie and Ralsei are facing it while he's the one enforcing it