Thread 718981963

What's the deal with Factorio?

>>718981963 (OP)
theres never a deal on factorio

Are you looking to become autistic?

>>718981963 (OP)
It's not a fact, and it's not an Oreo?

>>718982000 (checked)
How autistic are we talking?

What's the deal with biters when they don't even bite?

why haven't they added cargo drones/planes yet

>>718983009
yeah there’s logistic bots

>>718981992
Unless you travel back in time to when it was in early access and buy it then.

>>718982182
more than 4x Paradox games and less than Hex-based Wargaming

>>718983009
What, are we trying to completely eliminate the usefulness of trains now?

>>718983009
Arguably somewhat pointless as you would end up better served by using a train or logistics drones. Or if they out perform both then there wouldn't be as much of a reason to use the other two. So basically redundancy is the reason. Unless you create a whole new niche problem that they alone would solve, which again would result in limited use.

>>718981963 (OP)
Need to be autistic + a pedo to play this

>>718983249
Is there a less autistic factory builder? Preferably focused on war machine production and defense against bugs or whatever ayys?

>>718981963 (OP)
>OP is just a banner off google
>thread is terrible
It keeps happening

>>718983791
>less autistic
Why would you want that, play a real video game for once

>>718983791
There's mindustry but it's level based so not a sandbox

>>718983791
>Is there a less autistic factory builder?
Buddy you picked the wrong genre to pursue if you wanted less autism.

>>718983921
>>718983971
You misunderstand, I want a beginner friendly autistic game so that I can cope with the advanced autism better in the future.

>>718984005
A mentally disabled retard could play and complete factorio, this is already meeting you more than halfway

>>718983009
Just let us have multiple orbital drop points per surface. No need for trains, bots, you name it, we can just drop the materials we need from space platforms to anywhere in the world and move things back up to space when we need them to travel long distances.

>>718983425
I played for 400 hours already, when does the child rape start?

>>718983009
Just play Dyson Sphere Program

>>718981963 (OP)
game died with 2.0 cashgrab dlc.

>>718984005
Probably Satisfactory since its a dumbed down Factorio.

>>718984185
Will I find it satisfactory
yes I baited this whole thread just to make that shit pun

>>718984005
Starting out with Factorio is easy.
>water connection to steam plant
>power connection out to coal miners
>power connection out to iron miners
>power connection out to copper miners
>coal splits to power, iron smelting, and copper smelting
>iron plates to gears, green circuit boards, inserters, transport belts
>gears to inserters, red science, inserters, transport belts
>green circuit boards to inserters
>inserters to green science
>transport belts to green science
>copper plates to copper wire and green science
>copper wire to green circuit boards
You will likely have spaghetti, albeit functional, but you CAN do it and at least get to the "filtered by blue science" phase

I don't see how the fuck you could stomach Gleba before going to Fulgora first.
The electric towers are a MUST for the fucking pentapod niggers.
And not only that, but green, red, and blue circuits are basically solved with the building you unlock there. Plus, recyclers are actually very useful on Gleba to get rid of excess spoilage. Then again you can just burn it on a heating tower, but that produces WAAAAY more pollution.
I forget. Does pollution on Gleba matter or is it only the spore cloud? Because if it does matter then recyclers are king on Gleba.

>>718981963 (OP)
Filters people on here because their single digit IQ cant handle ratios and upscaling.

>>718984801
Following that--assuming you sent the science packs to the research labs and powered those--you should be able to manufacture things like transport belts, green circuits, and other parts for your own use. If you have enemies on you probably need military science
>use coal to refine iron into steel
>use coal to refine stone into bricks
>make grenades with coal and iron plates
>make firearm magazines with iron plates
>make piercing rounds with firearm magazines, steel, and copper plates
>make walls with bricks
>combine walls, piercing rounds, and grenades to make military science (grey)
Meanwhile find an oil patch and add oil pumps (powered), by this time you should probably have gained most of the early rail tech and send oil back to your main plant
>use crude oil to make petroleum
>make plastic with petroleum and coal
>make red circuits with plastic, green circuits, and copper wire
>make pipes with iron plates
>make engine unit with gears, pipes, and steel
>make sulfur with petroleum and water
>make blue science with sulfur, red circuits, and engine units
Congrats you are now in the mid-game, upgrade your factory to run more efficiently

>>718983791
Riftbreaker is specifically this.

>>718984135
I haven't played DSP since before they added in the enemy stuff. Did that end up adding to the experience or was it not good in the end?

>>718985093
It filters >40 iq people because space is not a dense asteroid field, rockets don't spawn out of nothing, planets don't stand still, and are not 50km apart. only <40 iqs play this.

>>718985380
riftbreaker has the best biomes, planet fauna and graphics. if they made the base building more deep it would be the perfect game. but it's made by subhuman polacks.

>>718985019
>pollution
only the tree harvesting causes pollution on gleba

>>718985019
Pollution isn't a thing on gleba. Pentapods trigger off of spore, which is created by jellynut and yumako cultivation.

>>718985281
Getting to space is going to be a pain if you don't have at least purple science so here's the next step:
>make iron stick with iron plates
>make rails with iron plates, steel, and stone (you should have railroads by now)
>make electric furnace with red circuits, steel, and stone brick (you should have electric furnaces by now)
>make productivity module with green circuits and red circuits
You'll likely be short on purple or blue depending on where the bottleneck is, mine more, add more stuff. Then onto yellow science.
>make sulfuric acid with iron plates, sulfur, and water
>make blue circuits with sulfuric acid, green circuits, and red circuits
>make batteries with sulfuric acid, iron plates, and copper plates
>make heavy oil from crude oil (you'll need to upgrade your oil refineries)
>make lubricant from heavy oil
>make electric engine unit with lubricant, engine units, and green circuits
>make flying robot frames from batteries, electric engine units, green circuits, and steel
>make low density structures from copper plates, plastic bars, and copper plates
>make yellow science from low density structures, blue circuits, and flying robot frames

Any must play fagtorio mods?
I really liked gimmicky ones like Ultracube.

>>718985527
It wasnt made to be deep. It was made to have a simple factorio game with base defense and a giant robot. Its exactly what it wanted to be.

>>718985668
>Ultracube

Speak not its name, for god's sake...

>>718985637
Rocket silos need concrete so if you don't have concrete that needs iron ore, stone bricks, and water. Then use a lot of concrete, electric engines, pipes, blue circuits, and steel to build a rocket silo. Fueling the rocket silo requires blue circuits, low density structures, and rocket fuel. You probably don't have rocket fuel yet but if you used light oil to make solid fuel, it's just solid fuel and more light oil, then just wait. Congrats you beat the base game.

>>718985682
Did it want to have a shitty plot and awful VA?

>>718984108
unironically the most braindead opinion I've ever heard espoused about space age. you understand absolutely nothing about factorio's balance.

>>718984108
thats how it worked in the mod, a shame

>of my 15,000 achievements, finishing factorio in under 40 hours is the rarest
Why are autists shit at autistic games?

>>718985945
>why do autists who want to take their time perfecting their base and experimenting with various designs and thoughts that pop up in their head not speedrunning a game?
It's a mystery.

>>718985945
You can only do that if you use blueprints which sucks the fun out of it

>>718985945
because most people playing factorio aren't actually autists, it's the autists posting shit everywhere that make this impression

>>718985945
speedrunning autism and building autism are very different beasts

>>718986025
holy fucking brainlet. if you're incapable of getting it on your second playthrough using your own designs I don't know what to tell you; making your own designs is the entire purpose of factorio.

>>718986056
>playing well in a realtime logistics puzzler is... speedrunning autism
it's incredible how mistaken all of you are. bye-bye now.

Despite any claims there is nothing autistic about factorio. At most that is true for mod creators.

>factorio, a turbo autism enabler
>every mod is pretty chill, modders go out of their way not to break mods with eachother, a shitload of mods work together, some overhaul mods also work together which is a great achievement, etc etc
>meanwhile starsector
>the lead dev has to step in and set strict rules on modding because some modders got so buttblasted about other modders, they put literal malware in their mods
what makes factorio so good? is it something in the water?

>>718986270
explain

>>718986270
Sea block is certified autism.
So is SE, but when they made SA they explicitly said it would be less complicated.
It is, but these fucking assholes forgot to say they planned to make arbitrary restrictions on how to play the game because they're a bunch of dickheads.
Too much with Space Age doesn't fucking make any sense.
>Platform width punishes you
>You're restricted to Nauvis as your main hub for Biolabs
>Stupid bullshit like belt stacking and stack inserters locked behind gleba
>Vulcanus has the LEAST techs of any planet
>Aquillo doesn't have a spoilage reduction tech in space or some shit.
>The Shattered planet is stupidly hard to reach without quality.
>Despite the game nearing it's final update with 2.1, they STILL haven't gotten around to making good tutorials in-game for new players, which is a fucking travesty in and of itself
>No circuit network tutorials for shit that you might actually use.
>No tutorial for how LTN shit works
>Lol just learn how to do it!

Factorio is one of the least player-friendly games I've ever played. I've learned how to do shit on my own by now, but the devs are honestly a bunch of stupid assholes.
They actually wipe their ass with feedback, too.

>>718983254
Stackers already did that

>>718986471
i think this is a recipe screenshot from pyanodon's or some shit

Post bolognese

>>718986478
>>The Shattered planet is stupidly hard to reach without quality.
that's not true though

>>718985837
Did anyone but an autist on 4chan care?

>>718986642
Have you done it lol

>>718986471
There is nothing to explain. Its just a product chain listing what you all need to produce 6 green circuits per minute in pymod.
The detail, on the mod creators part, is autistic but apart from the increase in byproducts and scale it isn't any different than vanilla.
Well and needing to do all that to get belt splitters.

>>718986478
I wouldn't really call SE autism, the complexity is imo a whole nother thing.

>>718985382
Theyv added some good quality of life features and are currently doing an optimization patch before finishing combat phase 2. I'd hold off until that's finished.

>>718986808
Overall what is the actual combat experience like? What I remember seeing when it was being previewed didn't seem super interesting unfortunately.

>>718986773
yeah, i don't use quality at all
i'm a very slow player though, i challenged myself to finishing SA once without looking anything up

I hate setting up nuclear power.

I never could get the hang of progression in this game. It's like speedrunning burn out.
I appreciate that the game makes you use your brain in a world where video games are increasingly removing your brain from the equation. Unfortunately my stubbornness to just steal ideas from the internet means I'm usually racking my brain on how to scale something up the right way, then my mental battery is drained in sub-2hrs.

>>718986951
Like the rest of the game it makes an amazing spectacle watching missiles fire around an entire world to take out enemy raiders. On the other hand the enemies are just as basic as in factorio meaning once you build your defense they're basically an afterthought. Space enemies currently is based around defending your worlds with shield generators and surface to air weapons. Space combat is very simple and consists of deploying fighters and destroyers from your mech and just hanging close to the enemy nexus and hoping you have enough replacements to win.

The one thing I really like is that you're incentivized to fight the ground enemies and collect their dropped resources for both using in your factory and for powerful late game buildings. Hopefully the next combat update gives the enemies more variety and more danger.

>>718987454
Ok that sounds a lot better than I thought I saw originally. I can live with it not being amazing or super impactful to the game but just didn't want it to suck.

>>718987183
This is why I use rate calculator so I can quickly determine how many x I need to support y. Then I just build shit and connect it like Legos. Bottlenecks are solved with a better belt. Ezpz

>>718987454
Bro DSP is absolute garbage, just play creeper world if you want offensive stuff. What an abhorrent thread

>>718987141
Wut. Nuclear is easier than ever. You don't even need to worry about water anymore or pipe throughput. Only annoying part is having to actually mine uranium to unlock access to the tech instead of crafting shit on the way out to the patch to have it done when you get back.

>>718987559
It definitely has some deeper mechanics like the enemy space nexus physically taking matter mined on a planet up to the station. If you blow up all their transport relays you can eventually starve the entire hive and it can no longer create any new ships which is pretty neat. Plus big hives in other stars will send out "seeds" to start hives in new systems if they don't have one yet. Lots of cool systems/weapons with very basic combat mechanics.

>>718987639
Creeper world is shit and I cannot believe you fags actually recommend it. It is the most casual of casual games, zero difficulty, zero challenge, literally you start at a steady state and then slowly steamroll the creeper while needing to put zero brain power into your base design or really anything besides ensuring you have enough defensive coverage.
t. fucking love the creeper world games and infested planet. IXE was okay but really needed to be harder.

>>718987183
I'll be honest with you, a lot of shit didn't click for me before I realized sometimes you can pair one assembler to another like with Engines and Blue science.
I'm serious. 12 blue science assemblers can be hooked up to 5 engine assemblers and then you just need red circuits and sulfur. Blue science is piss easy if you just condense the build like that. You're going to need red circuits for other shit anyway, so might as well have it like Green circuits and just make a bigger build to accommodate more shit later.
Blue science is nothing compared to Yellow science. Even purple science is just a problem of scale with Steel and a bit of stone.

>>718985668
Warp drive machine

>>718987660
>You don't even need to worry about water anymore
Is this a patch? I haven't touched the game in a while but I remember it being kind of fucked with its waste and trying to recycle that shit.

>>718988037
you play particle fleet? by the same guys, very fun

>>718988895
>Is this a patch?
anon....

>>718986443
Engineering mindset, human matters are grime in the system, clean it of yourself.

>>718989407
you might be onto something

>>718983425
>+ a pedo
Is that a burner miner? Oh fuack its so young, only 2 minutes in.

I think they seriously missed an opportunity to do something with water.
Right now it just sucks ass and is only used for natural moats.
I'd love to have a cargo ship travel up a river or canal.
Really having any kind of water enemy would've made that frozen planet way better because there's just fuckall to do there.

>>718990201
>I'd love to have a cargo ship travel up a river or canal.
there's a mod for that

>>718988895
pipes now work like expected
recipes and functions requiring water are "plug n' play"--there's a 99% chance your build isn't too big for one offshore pump to get the job done (116 heat exchanger per offshore pump)

I'm in Aquilo, I wish the planeta had something going onoutside "hey it's cold". Some kind of sea serpent, octopus, or some kind of deep horror from the ammonia sea.

>>718990362
it's just a final test, really. loved aquilo's music, and if you don't have multiple ships that reach aquilo already, order their construction

>>718990362
I found heat pipes + limited building area to be a thoroughly enjoyable mechanic.

>>718990362
>Some kind of sea serpent, octopus, or some kind of deep horror from the ammonia sea
You mean like this concept art for an expansion monster?

>>718985945
I am the type of autist that starts obsessing over minor flaws in my design and double and triple checking things if they work even if I know already that it works.
>set up smelter stack
>start pulling the iron belt from it
>go back to check if its smelting properly
>all good, ok time to use the iron in the mall
>hmm the iron plates look kinda thin, lemme check on the smelter stack
>all good, back to building
>maybe I should just make sure the smelter stack is properly balanced tho I might need more miners

And then this repeats constantly. By the time I walk to a build site in game, I came up with 2 new issues, that I have to check on, so I keep wandering around. Does not help that I love just watching the factory do its thing, so I would for minutes at a time just get dazed by the various processes I built.

>>718981992
I've got so much stuff from humble hundle I get a permanent discount or something so I could get factorio for less.

>>718990618
>farting dick nipples
they knew

>>718990648
>properly balanced
Properly balanced is a completely full belt with 20 miners you didn't actually need to put down. Why would you waste time balancing things? Just build until you need more iron, then build 2-3x more iron so you won't need to worry about it for 5 more hours.

>>718990648
trying a run where you refuse to be a perfectionist might be a fun change of pace, unironically

>>718990201
I prefer Aquilo as a lifeless still planet, if anything then the weather should be more of an enemy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FrJp0YNEsc

>>718990763
jesus

>718986270
Unironically true.
Most autists bounce off it super hard because it's fundamentally a game about learning and improving constantly. Turbo mega-autists exist and go way too far with the game, but those are the minority.

>>718986773
you absolute buffoon, going slow is not a downside. linger on the implications of that.

>>718986478
>Platform width punishes you
There's nothing wrong with there being actual design considerations for your space ships, anon.
The overall spaceship game is overly samey once you've made your first bunch of designs but that's not the fault of platform width having inherent advantages.
>Stupid bullshit like belt stacking and stack inserters locked behind gleba
>Vulcanus has the LEAST techs of any planet
You can't complain about both there being techs you unlock from planets and not being techs you unlock from planets.
>Aquillo doesn't have a spoilage reduction tech in space or some shit.
Repeatable tech that just invalidates a mechanic would be utterly retarded. Learn to build better.
>No circuit network tutorials for shit that you might actually use.
That would literally just be the game teaching you solutions, of course there fucking isn't a walkthrough within the game itself.

>>718987183
From experience, just take the general idea of a main bus from the internet then figure out how to implement that yourself.
That being, running major materials centrally, splitting production off from that.
>>718987581
Specific ratios are never necessary and needing them indicates you fundamentally haven't got how the game's logistics works at its core.
>Bottlenecks are solved with a better belt.
You'll need multiple iron belts by vanilla game end realistically.

>>718991446
The game isn't figuring out how to do a SR latch, it's using a SR latch to do something cool. What do people do right now? They google SR latch and memory cell: awesome gameplay.
Actually this one example encapsulates my other points.
Your puzzle centric vision of factorio is not good game design for factorio and is the root cause of the plague known as punitive balancing like platform drag, planet restricted recipes and cargo weight.

>>718992027
If you know what an SR latch is, you know how to make one with circuits.
>Your puzzle centric vision of factorio is not good game design for factorio
It's not about puzzle centric vision, it's about the game being there and letting you figure shit out yourself. If the game is going to just tell you how to build something like an SR latch, why the fuck wouldn't it just have an SR latch you can place and don't need make?
Furthermore, you haven't actually said WHY any of this is bad, just complained about there being things you can do in the game that aren't spelled out for you explicitly.

>>718986478
>>Platform width punishes you
If there weren't drag in space then you'd be MORE punished for a wide ship because you'd be both increasing asteroid spawn rate via speed and how many are a threat to you directly via width.
>You're restricted to Nauvis as your main hub for Biolabs
>Stupid bullshit like belt stacking and stack inserters locked behind gleba
both of these are to make the planets worth a shit, without biolabs locked to nauvis you'd never need it beyond uranium, and gleba science would basically be worthless beyond the initial batch for asteroid reprocessing and carbon fiber/rocket turrets.
>Vulcanus has the LEAST techs of any planet
this isn't even a real complaint, something's going to have the "least".

I think quality was a fine idea, it's just not interesting in practice. the only time I wasn't bored was when I was figuring out how to maximize legendary superconductors through assembly and recycling.

>>718992118
If it's spelled out on the wiki then it could be spelled out in game, isn't it the point of factoriopedia. For mechanics as crucial as memory cells, clocks, etc.

Platform drag, bad because every ship is a pencil now.
Restricted recipes, bad because nobody needs to be told where to build their items, they can choose for themselves.
Cargo weight, bad because item stack size is suppose to be that system already. It's why ores stack to 50 but plates stack to 100.

>>718992027
>>718992905
quite the educated-dimwit you are. unfortunately you have no knowledge whatsoever of game design

>>718986603
S O U L

>>718992905
No, the game should not include a complete walkthrough.
>Platform drag, bad because every ship is a pencil now.
And? There is a goal, and the game is trying to make a functional ship that balances being thin with not wasting a bunch of space on excess belts. Doubly so when the best ships make heavy use of the ship core since centralized large storage is completely busted in Factorio.
>Restricted recipes, bad because nobody needs to be told where to build their items, they can choose for themselves.
You're literally complaining about the game NOT telling you the optimal way to play in the same fucking post.
Also no, good gameplay is entirely built out of restrictions.
>Cargo weight, bad because item stack size is suppose to be that system already. It's why ores stack to 50 but plates stack to 100.
Genuinely who cares? Increadibly autistic thing to get caught up on.

>>718993004
I know what fun is in a videogame. If a mechanic doesn't work to the point we have to add rule upon rule to block players from doing it wrong then the mechanic is broken.
Fix shit by increasing the gameplay, not by reducing it.

>>718993164
>I know what fun is in a videogame.
>I also hate using my brain and thinking through potential solutions
sounds like I got you pinned

>>718991446
Your entire fucking post reeks of Reddit energy. Go back, you onions boy cuck.
You're also not as smart as you think you are, by the way. I know you think so given how fucking pretentious you talk.

>>718993263
>is that someone actually discussing videogames on /v/
>EW REDDIT REDDIT REDDIT ONIONS REDDIT
Stop being such a pathetic faggot holy shit

>>718993263
>onions
cute projection. you can leave now.

>>718993289
No I'm serious. You're actually a fucking bitch. The way you type and how dismissive you are. You think you have it all figured out but you're just a dumb faggot. Don't worry, there's many like you out there, you're not alone.

>>718993342
Yeah, faggot, I'm dismissive of retards that make idiotic fucking complaints.
Why don't you run back to a pathetic website where you can downvote people calling your retarded shit out yourself?

>>718993340
>>718993289
>Samefagging
>Calling others pathetic

>>718993289
>>718993342
spergy ragey spergy ragey!

>>718993392
Are they paying you to shit your pants over criticism? Lmao what the fuck you're a spastic retard.

>>718993393
just stop.

>>718993393
>IMMEDIATELY jumps to crying samefag
Holy fuck you don't belong here in the slightest

>>718993236
You devise memory cells, i devise greater systems.
Go ask the devs for more problems to solve. They feed you your game.

It's definitely not retarded to have a tech from Aquillo to slow down spoilage on transit to Nauvis. Get some Anusol for your butthurt. Defending a shit mechanic doesn't get you any brownie points, redditor.

>>718993418
Pretty sure the only thing I'm reacting to is the whiny faggot literally crying about someone's tone because they can't handle being talked down to

>>718993517
thanks for the smile. sounds like I've got you pinned. bye now.

>MUST
>FISH
>FOR
>UPVOOOOOOTESSSSS!!!!!

>>718993535
there is a tech on aquilo that slows spoilage, it's called legendary engines to make the crafting/launching/shipping/science-ing faster.

>>718993535
gleb science is the easiest planetary science in the game by far spoilage in transit CANNOT be your issue.

>>718993606
Mmm... Thank you Wube. Thank you for letting me get on my knees and suck your dick!
Fuck the haters!

>>718993535
What is the point of having a spoilage mechanic if you can negate it?
>I-I-It's a shit mechanic
Thank you for admitting you were just filtered

>>718993648
You lack reading comprehension. I'm not going to waste my fucking time on a retard like you who lacks critical thinking skills. Fuck off.

>>718993638
>NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!
every time.

>>718993579
What a faget.

what the fuck are you doing if agricultural science isn't in your labs within 10 minutes? those are negligible losses.

>>718993689
>can't answer the question
>continued mental breakdown over people calling your retarded "suggestions" dumb
lmao

>>718993517
Might we sneak a peek at your TempleOS or whatever that beautiful mind of yours is cooking up

>>718993748
I can answer it. I won't. You're too fucking retarded to understand an answer you don't like. You're basically as stupid as a woman.

I was told it was for autists but I didn't really like it.

>>718993845
>I was told it was for autists
Well surprise, you were lied to.

>>718983878
>>718984106
>>718987639
agreed sometimes i wish you made all the threads on 4chan mahirokun then there would only be quality 247

>>718993535
As >>718993648 said that would trivialize the core mechanic of global and thus be a bad design choice.
Besides if you were that bothered by it you could have just made mod or downloaded one of the existing ones but no you need to act like a nigger and scream about meaningless shit.

>>718993779
No i'm working and i'm not falling into that obvious trap anyway. It's the same trick everytime in those discussions, set up by wanabe machiavels. Fucking jew anons.
Concessions packaged and on their way to my location.

I want underground trains.

>>718994053
Z-levels do have a certain appeal

>>718994053
that's dumb. underground belts work as a mechanic because their distances are straight and always short enough that "what's going on" is always immediately readable to players.

>>718994142
and we got one in the positive, where it makes sense.
if you haven't played around with compact elevated rails in your world yet you are missing out

>>718990347
So you don't need to put the entire pipeline underground anymore?
It's been a while but my major issue was the empty uranium cells that you couldn't do anything with. I just put them in a box with a grabber and at one point my grid dipped in power because the box was full and couldn't gen power anymore so I just went with fuckhuge solar farms and batteries.

>>718994053
Elevated rails are the underground trains of the sky

>Being this starved for attention and upvotes that you defend an undercooked expansion

I actually feel sorry for you losers. Get a fucking life holy shit. They're not going to pay you for any of it.
They even scrapped the Aquillo enemy. How the fuck do you justify THAT? Don't tell me I don't give a shit. Keep your retarded bullshit to yourself.

>>718994371
Woah..

>>718994306
>empty uranium cells
Those can be reprocessed into 238

>>718994193
Being a contrarian is not a personality. Not unless you have severe mental illness.

>>718994306
>So you don't need to put the entire pipeline underground anymore?
no. makes no difference.
>It's been a while but my major issue was the empty uranium cells that you couldn't do anything with.
picrel

>>718994306
There is now an automated way of destroying items in the game.

>>718994435
I stated my informed opinion and the factual reasons for holding it. Stop being a reductive buzzword-spewing dumbdumb and make posts that have some semblance of value.

>>718994246
>>718994371
Woah

>>718994514
>Informed opinion
>Factual reasons
>Buzzwords

>>718994438
just realized that this isn't even particularly worth doing anymore since you can just recycle (terminate) the fuel cells.

>>718994552
you're now tripling down on being a reductive buzzword-spewing dumbdumb.

>>718994629
Get help you fucking narcissist faggot.

>>718994579
Throw intio lava, burn in recycler or reprocess. We get 3 options now, not counting just hoarding empty cells for no reason.

>>718994306
Like the other guys said about reprocessing, but you have ALWAYS been able to reprocess fuel cells.

>>718992905
>Platform drag, bad because every ship is a pencil now.
Ships would be pencils anyway, because that means less asteroids you need to cut through.

>>718994664
illiterate, or just throwing darts at a board with your ad hom?

>>718994721
Okay, but what if I want to cut through as many asteroids as possible. They are resources after all.

>>718994790
You can still do so, you'll just travel slower.

>>718994664
>>718994785
I understand you're mad but not only did you not have to reply twice, you didn't even have to reply once.

>>718994832
That second post wasn't me, man.

>finally a factorio thread
>2 retards shit it all up
just fuck off, please. fuck right off and never come back you double niggers

>>718995007
That's a big ask, and you know it.
They're always in here acting all high and mighty like a bunch of queens. I guess It's better to just ignore these faggots.

>>718995007
meaningful threads never happen outside of stateside hours and you know I'm right.

I like DSP
It's very fun and very pretty

>>718986478
none of that is a problem

>>718994438
>>718994427
I didn't notice that one, I guess. The game is really good at making me feel stupid.

So autismos, what are the advantages of trains compared to belts or bots? I only really use them to transport oil.

>>718993535
fuck its funny spoilage filters so many people.

>>718995414
superior throughput and fun. it'd be a huge waste of your time to forgo trains on fulgora

>>718995414
Belts for short range local deliveries.
Trains are for long range hauls.
Bots are for when your spaghetti is so dense you can't squeeze in any more belts, but you for some reason absolutely need to feed that one more assembler somehow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w364IwtG6qE
>Good the time spent planning isn't included, don't have a number but I'm guessing its closing in on 1000 hours.
Holy autism.

>>718995657
my biggest gripe with space age is that logbots are required to load blue circuits etc. onto rockets. we should have the option to not use bots.

>>718981963 (OP)
Lost their souls after they become big.

>>718981963 (OP)
i would love to play this game but i don't want to give money to chuds...

>>718995709
Some nip did a Satisfactory speedrun, it's actually a fun watch imo
Lots of weird tricks to it
https://youtu.be/Eq5KElDeu4w

>>718995285
Oh yeah that happens all the time, from multiple personal robo ports giving extra range, being able to copy train schedules to mirroring blueprints etc.
The amount of stuff one can overlook is nuts.

>>718995849
the only advice factorio beginners need is that they should read through the list of hotkeys a couple different times.

>>718985945
>15,000
I forgot you can check for achievements on steam. I just checked and I barely have half

>>718995849
>multiple personal robo ports giving extra range
uhh

>>718996069
Yeah I only recently realized that after trawling the wiki for something different.

>>718981963 (OP)
>padded content
Multiple color versions of the same things (science packs, buildings and enemies) that do... the same thing.
>no endgame
Basic bitch combat and GARBAGE tower defense.
Adding on to that, the game ends with a whimper, ZER0 buildup towards anything. You just reach an arbitrary point at some point by accident and it throws a pathetic - congratz faggot, you won window.

>>718995849
>multiple personal robo ports giving extra range
WHAT
SINCE FUCKING WHEN

>>718986270
luh me some pyanodons, simple as

>>718995728
You can do that without robots.

>>718996316
What the fuck

do you guys really wait around for your measly 4 personal roboport charging ports to work? equipping more ports should be a no-brainer without even knowing all of the benefits.

>>718996315
The history in the wiki doesn't mention any changes so I suspect since always.

>>718996316
holy shit this looks retardedly difficult
yet... something about it... is appealing... hmmm...
is this as hard as it looks?

>>718996352
you're confidently wrong

>>718981963 (OP)
Factorio lost to Nortubel

anyone seen this? thoughts?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3320980/MoteMancer/

>>718996504
based retard
>>718996591
>skill tree
that's weird. I'm left to assume the game doesn't know what it wants to be.

>>718996352
Can you? I was under impression that rocket fuel, blue circuits and LDS can't be loaded as cargo with inserters as they're trying to go to rocket part building slots that way, not to cargo slots.

>>718996591
yo is that a stargate

>>718985945
Why try to finish a game that you enjoy faster? Makes no sense

>>718996591
Hex-based magic Factorio? Looks neat but I'm not sure why I wouldn't play actual Factorio instead of this.

>>718996793
Doing it well on a subsequent playthrough just makes sense.

>>718996394
>>718996429
It's not really that difficult, just immensely time consuming
For me honestly it was a relaxing experience

>>718996973
some people just love bloat.

>>718996591
Please don't be early access please don't be early access please do-
Oh fuck off

>>718996591
>belt can transfer items on 2 sides
Why do people copy it from Factorio? It looks so stupid.

>>718985019
>The electric towers are a MUST for the fucking pentapod niggers.
Just use artillery. I haven't seen spiders for hours.

>>718996973
you got some biters in there

>>718997181
>Why do people copy it from Factorio
because there are plenty of reasons why it's an interesting mechanic in factorio and people assume they can largely replicate it and have their logistics puzzler be just as interesting.

>>718997274
Artillery is fun and cool and all that, but I am a lazy bastard so I'll continue using teslas that require only some electricity to zap wiggas.

I play without biters because fuck that shit I don't want to build anything that isn't the factory.

>>718985019
>And not only that, but green, red, and blue circuits are basically solved with the building you unlock there.
I think you're thinking about it wrong if you call that "solved" in any way

oh so you're so smart about what womb should do with their game and how to balance it, huuuuuh?
then post a new planet gimmick RIGHT NOW.

>>718997307
yeah, they're looking after my machines

How do i solve blue circuits

>>718997593
what's you'r problem?

>>718997437
I said this last thread but biters become a non-issue the moment you obtain a mere 150 military science (unlocks laser turrets) which doesn't require its own subfactory like the rest of your science packs whatsoever. 350 more military science and you've got a tank that will clear out nests all the way through launching rockets

>>718997647
Dogshit output

>>718997593
Step 1: make more of them
blue circuits now solved, until you need more of them, at which point you repeat step 1

>>718997668
Make more assemblers then?

>>718997593
5:6 blues to reds and blues to greens ratio. the required sulfuric acid is negligible and there to force pipes into your design.
you should be able to figure out how to design a working print at this point. just go for it.

>>718981992
It's free.

>>718997668
just make more
>but I need
just make more
>but
just make more

>>718997593
Underground belts going through the machine carrying the solid materials with inserters on one end to grab them, one side getting the acid, and the other side with the output. Fill the machine with productivity modules and surround it with speed module beacons. Solved

>>718995421
>Filters
How the fuck does it filter people when they still beat the fucking game after figuring out the lazy mechanics? Funny how you suck the dev's dicks while praising yourself for doing something everyone else has done.
Faggot.

>>718981963 (OP)
I lost my Repair Belt man edition of the game and now they want 32 Eurocredits from me. Forget this little lame game.

Chad of Industry is where the real men go. Im up to 100 hours now and only 30% into the tech tree. Yesteday I had the hottest gooning game sesh where I refined my cement production facilities so my newly built Cargo Depot can send 257 of them in exchange for 1700 coal. I need coal cuz im running out.

I am however tweaking my facilities to pump out gravel and rail parts so I can get to start on my first rail line which would be able to get coal from a distant part of the island.

Furthermore I revamped my irrigated farms, can now produce Potato, Veggies, Grain and tree saplings and deliver them effortlessly.

I did more but cant remember. God im getting such a boner and wana play right now.

Oh yea we were talking about fagtorio

I don't really mind blue science. It's purple that's a complete bitch to make.

>>718997668
analyze the shortcomings of your solution and improve it
>not every assembler is running because i don't have enough of X
fix the supply
>every assembler is running but i still don't get enough product
add more assemblers

>>718997593
A single green circuit assembler can feed 1 blue circuit assembler. Then you just feed the copper plates and iron plates and sulfuric acid and bring over red circuits on a belt.
It's that easy.

>>718997941
you sound angry, are you?

>>718998007
No, it's yellow.

>>718998031
You sound like you don't have an argument and are instead trying to get a rise out of me on the internet. Which one of us is the clown? Can you guess? I don't have to.

>>718997941
>How the fuck does it filter people when they still beat the fucking game after figuring out the lazy mechanics?
they don't. only 30% of players who go to one planet make it to Aquilo and only half of those beat the game.

>>718998080
probably the one making lots of loud noises.

>>718998062
No, it's purple. You are guaranteed to need all the yellow components en masse anyway, not so with purple.

>>718998095
You're not smarter than people who hate Gleba. What made you think you were lmao. It's a valid criticism to say spoilage is shit. Nobody who defends Gleba can give a single reason why the science pack spoiling is actually a logistical challenge. It's not.
>Just make more! Lol!
>Just make a faster ship, lol!

You sound like someone who doesn't even play the game, which is odd considering you're saying Gleba filters people. Post your fucking Gleba base, faggot. I dare you.

>>718998187
Welp, maybe that's just me then,. because I only make as many bots as I need for personal logistics/construction and never full-blown automate them, so robot frame ends up a bottleneck.

>>718998207
it's belt based and I know you'd loooove to see it but I think I'll have to trigger your aspergers further

>>718998062
No, I really get filtered by purple. It needs so much random bullshit that I can't really make a decent area for so now I have to make extra production lines for things I don't make yet.

>>718998336
gonna say you should automate the things that allow you to automate more in the automation game.

>>718998336
that is a fair point. however, the total raw resources required per pack (roughly):
purple: 60 iron, 19 copper, 12 stone
yellow: 45 iron, 21 copper, 0 stone

>>718998338
That's what I thought lmao shut the fuck up.
Can't even put your money where your mouth is what a weak ass faggot. Gleba is shit and you know it.

>>718998687
Okay, I'll post it but only if you ask nicely.

>>718998551
I'm wrong the copper demand is about double that. purple is still more total resources

>>718998480
Valid point, but I just like trains and belts more.
>>718998551
I acknowledge that if you don't preplan that you'll need stone for purple science i can be annoying to set up. But then again rails and efurnaces are things you want anyway.

>>718998810
I guess it really depends on player preference :)
for me construction bots are the number 1 priority when I start a new game.

By the way i have better game design sense than Hideo Kojima so yapyap shut your trap.

>>718998810
bots don't replace trains and belts. once you have full bot coverage of your base you can build anything anywhere at any time. repairs/replacements for broken power lines you drove through.
its 100% a requirement to have if you are playing space age on other planets. not to mention requester chests and malls and auto filling your inventory with everything you need (and removing what you dont).
you don't know what you are missing.

>>718998970
Well I'm going to make more of them this time and see how that works.

I launched my first rocket last week. Is the DLC fun or is it just for uberautists?

>>718999452
Eeeh bittaboth

>>718999452
>just for uberautists?
definitely not. I personally think the DLC completes Factorio as a game. The DLC has you launching lots and lots of rockets but also using your brain figuring out how to go about the different mechanics on the different planets.

The introduction to space platforms is honestly a bit rough so it wouldn't hurt to mess around in map editor for half an hour for that... or just watching a beginners guide on space platforms

>>718999613
Also kind of jarring that space platforms benefit from having multiple silos with constant launches/ 1 silo starting every early on.

>>718998338
kek, beltpilled and proud huh? respect. even if it’s jank and half the base looks like spaghetti slathered in iron plates, at least it ain’t a bot-lag slide show. post the Gleba base, coward, let’s see those belts crying under pressure.

>>718999613
how embarrassing
>>718999694
what?

>>718999756
A somewhat decent platform that will survive getting you to a new planet, not necessarily survive afterwards, needs surprisingly many rocket launches.
If you just use a basic 1.0 playstyle to reach 1 rocket launch it can easily put you into a position where your just keeping yourself busy until you finally have a useable platform ready to finally begin the expansion.

>>718999694
didn't follow your post but you should know that more cargo bays on your space platform and on planets connected to landing pads increase cargo pod throughput.
>>718999756
>how embarrassing
for you.

>>718999924
>for you

I haven't played the game and not one part of this recipe/ratio jargon makes sense to me but it makes me want to play the game

>>718999890
space age rockets are 20 times cheaper than 1.0 rockets, more so when considering that RCUs got replaced with blue circuits.

>>719000098
you will like it then.

>>718981963 (OP)
Blue science and Gleba filters 90% of /v/

>>719000098
maybe try play game. grug like play game.

>>719000098
Try the demo then

>>718983425
>Need to be autistic + a pedo to play this

>>719000098
Ratios are a spook. your shit won't run on 100% efficiency but it will still run.

>>719000446
>your shit won't run on 100% efficiency
it can actually and the production tab validates my designs.

>>718981963 (OP)
Space Age was a fucking horrible disaster and it was inevitable after hiring retarded modders on their team

>>719000167
blue science statistically filters most players and I think that's sad.
this design can cut out the red belts by producing copper wires along the way of course

>>718985945
because going that fast is a radically different playstyle that requires a very carefully planned out approach along with a very dedicated time commitment

>>719001468
I disagree entirely. You are afforded the 8 hour Nauvis speed completion time for EVERY PLANET. There shouldn't be any reason why a player who has beaten the game once can't get sub 40 on their next playthrough.

>>719001468
the only way to go fast, is to go well

>>719000167
>Blue science
lol
>Gleba
Fuck I hated that place. Not ashamed to say I found a blueprint for an all in one factory
>Aquilo
My actual filter, but I think moreso I just got burnt out by then

>>719001824
>There shouldn't be any reason
the reason is that i don't give a fuck you dumb nigger. i don't care about going fast, why would i? so some retard on /v/ can be satisfied about achievement statistic or some shit?
lick my fucking balls, i'll spend 500 hours in one save

>>719002095
whatever enjoyment you get from the game is valid :)

>>719002085
>Fuck I hated that place. Not ashamed to say I found a blueprint for an all in one factory
>My actual filter, but I think moreso I just got burnt out by then
No, you were filtered by Gleba.
You did not in fact, beat the game.

Ok Anons, you have been hired to either make Factorio 2 or expansion 2

Whatcha makin'?

>>719002254
Underground & underwater expansion

>>719002254
I add a first person mode to make shooting bugs more fun

>>719002254
game's done. it's gotta be radically different--everything redesigned.
unfortunately the game required 8 very active years of development to first ship a finished satisfactory product so we'll be here a while.

>>718996591
bout 20 hours into it, I'd hold off for now, I walked through the stargate saved over my only savefile to then reload and find its literally 1 way and you need to do a from scratch base again, you're meant to be able to send power through them and items but I had no idea. fucking awful design, also a tooltip would be useful once in a while about mixing power, you cant hook the wind power up to the green power cable things it needs to go through a battery first. because? who knows, if you don't know this unexplained esoteric knowledge you will think the games just bugged and probably quit after investing hours into a bunk technology branch

>>719002254
z levels. but only one up and one down. enough for moats and walls

>>719002318
>Underwater
Would be kino I think, unsure about underground

>>719002559
I do wish we could have made some kind of slowing floor for biters

>>719002368
So you think they are done with content and moving onto a new game?

>>719002723
>So you think they are done with content and moving onto a new game?
besides little patches and VERY little changes, yes, they are done and have been done since christmas.

>>718994053
me too, elevated are cool and all, but i hate running them over the top of a build i may need to change, since it makes swapping out inserters, or adding modules an absolute pain.
i want them to act like underground belts, you place one, and if you put another close enough directly ahead of it, it connects, maybe give it a huge cost of iron rods and rails per grid covered, so you cant just do entire runs with them like underground pipes.
would also be cool for intersections, underground for going forwards, elevated to turn left, normal to turn right, no more rail signals needed and no more slowdown.

>>719002723
FFF ended last year.

>>719002194
NTA but same thing. Didn't need a blueprint for Gleba although I didn't look into how spores work so I had to come back a few times to fix things up,

The actual filter for me was the platforms. If it was space choo choos it would be cool but it's tedious crap with anti-fun limitations. Fix game Wube

>>719002254
Spaceship Troopers but Factorio style so you do your own logistics. The goal isn't some gay ass escape, you get dropped in on your own to prepare for expansion and genocide every planet then make it cozy for human habitaiton.

>>719003009
>with anti-fun limitations.
Like what? Sending unlimited uranium ammo into space?
You can already do that, you just need more rockets
Build the ammo on the platform like intended dummy
Platforms are genuine fun, you can make it as retarded big as you want, all it will do is cost you more platforms and rockets.
Optimizing platforms to be as small as possible and as efficient as possible is the biggest win for autists like me.
Unironically the best part about 2.0 was the huge circuit updates we got, and that was totally free.

>>719003009
>it's tedious crap with anti-fun limitations.
the real issue is that the nuances of mechanics are ALWAYS left for the player to figure out rather than being spelled out. this is usually ok but is very not ok for space platforms. outrageously timewasting until you know what you're doing.

People with no jobs get to pretend to have a job. Thats what i think. Just like games that have wipes They are constantly hooked and engaged because just like their real life they are so use to let downs and failures that winning for them is just not possible.

>>719003270
>Just like games that have wipes
Name one game with wipes

>>719003382
Doom 2016

>>719003270
really poor choice of game for you to espouse that opinion about

>>719002254
an expansion from the shattered planet with another solar system where you fight another industrial civilization
orbital bombardment mechanics

>>718981963 (OP)
Automate factories. Develop autism. That's pretty much the deal.

>>719002254
Biological version where instead of machines you place organs and shit. Basically everything is gleba.

>>718986443
Basically everything factorio mods add is just a modified thing from vanilla. Declarative mods are much harder to introduce an incompatibility with

>>719003382
Powerwash simulator

>>718985945
Too many people like playing with mods, which disable Steam achievements.
Even nearly a year after Space Age came out, all of my "rarest" achievements are from Space Age.

>factorio thread about gameplay
>30 replies
>factorio thread with shitty bait made by someone who never played the game
>300 replies
Okay, I'm never discussing factorio on 4chan again and uninstalling the game

>>719008843
See you next week.

>>719008843
if only there was another forum where theres a thread that was about factorio all the time

>>719009497
there's a facrorio thread on vg all the time, or used to not sure if it's still around. but the game is dead.

>>719009637
the game is dead? what?

>>719009476
Nah I played and talked about this to meet people halfway. Clearly you are all too retarded however. OpenTTD is an objectively better game and there is no reason to play factorio when it exists, which has less complexity than redstone circuits in minecraft and is just balancing output while maximizing throughput, the copy-pasting blueprints once you've designed something tilable.

>>719009676
it's dead. 2.0 slop killed it for the players and the devs abandoned it.

>>719009637
The /vg/ thread is exactly like this thread, which is why it should not be used. In fact, I'm sure people from that shithole made this terrible thread.

>>719009871
uh huh

>>719009497
It's crazy to see one of those a/vg/as huffers on the toob.

>>719009676
The fuck are you talking about?

>>719008621
>Only 1% of players have killed a big demolisher

>>719010130
They realized the game was boring and shitty by then

>>719010130
Without mods.
I currently don't want to touch my "no biter nest destruction before artillery" save. It's tiresome.

>>719010130
theres literally no reason to. you get enough of what you need killing a couple mediums, the first patch of calcite you get lasts the entire game

>>719010130
tells you everything you need to know about the gayme

>>719010234
The game never ends

>>719010285
Just crush asteroids my dude

>>719010354
Go kill a big demolisher, anon

>>719010285
It does have an ending goal.
Otherwise it ends when you stop playing or die, whatever comes first.

>>718983425
i'm not autistic but i still enjoy it.

>>719010234
>theres literally no reason to
Are 99% of Factorio players women? Of course you want to go shoot at the biggest fucker out there when you get your railgun.

>>719010418
But my mods! Don't make me play without my mods.
Seriously, autorun is a blessing for my hand

>>719010483
It's not fun dude, endlessly chasing meaningless progression trees is zoomer kiddie shit

>>719010216
Cant you get to Vulcanus, deconstruct everything in your main base and land back in later?

>>719008843
I'm happy you're enjoyment of video games gets ruined by people talking on a Malaysian clam fishing forum, and I hope it continues to happen

>>719010592
Rolling up to a big demolisher with a handheld railgun and one-shotting it certainly isn't "not fun"

>>719010656
Almost what I did, technically my starter base still exists but it is only a matter of time until the biters destroy it.
I'm already on vulcanus, platform dismantled, on that save but starting it up always drains all my motivation.

>>719010592
What the fuck are you talking about? Railguns are essential to beat the game. The only logical conclusion when you get a big gun is to go shoot something big with it.

>>719010717
Why should I limit myself to casual boring games if the people who play them are too stupid to discuss them anyways and turn everything into a gay general with a picture off google then lazily bump the thread forever? Better to just play real video games. You and I both know that factorio, and all of its clones, are just copy pasting the same things over and over and endlessly upscaling. "Engineering games", my ass. Once you figure out how to make a green circuit the game is solved, that is the absolute maximum complexity of the game. After that alls that's left is train signals and circuitry, which are very simplified compared to equivalents in other games.

>>719010571
>Autorun
Aren't you playing via your map mostly?

>>719010571
click to move has been a blessing, I never leave my mobility spider unless I have to

>>719011007
I have yet to play with bots desu.

>>719011254
Is it your first playthrough? Once you get the hang of construction bots and create a robust logistics network, you mostly just sit in one place and build from your map.

>>719011352
Nah, I have like 400+ hours already. Couple of rockets including a no time for chitchat + lazy bastard pre 2.0. I wanted to go for no spoon but accidentally inverted my circuit ratio and under produced rcus.

>>719011254
they're a godsend for crafting infractructure, no way in hell I'm hauling a belt of speed modules to my assembling machine assembler

>>718981963 (OP)
I want a factorio with cute anime girls in it
does it exist?

>>719011887
gear girl mod has you covered

>>719011887
Yeah openttd has a ton of Japanese GRFs. Train autism is very big there. And it's a better game anyways.

>>718990362
I want something like pic related: you only see the tentacles on the surface and never the main body. You have to Railgun those fuckers because they break ice and sap Fluorine reserves.

>>719012504
You already made this retarded post a billion times. How is having an enemy you click on once improve the game? The whole point is to optimize the clicking away. Even the lava worm was an atrociously stupid addition.

>>719012504
Doesn't really fit the same niche of resource drainage that pods and biters do. Not the resource restriction of demoliahers.

>>719005132
That sounds really cool but it would be easy to have your factory die. They'd need to rework the fluid so you could have more shit in one pipe (blood+waste).

>>719014564
>more shit in one pipe
Could work really well with some homeostasis system.

>>719011887
Where are they hiding the touhou mods for factorio?

>>719014764
Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking. Waste goes back into the bloodstream, if you let it build up too much your buildings start dying. If you don't pump enough nutrients into it, they start working slower or dying. Enemies attacking will put poison into it, so you'd need something to extract that/neutralize it. Same with pollution. There's a ton of shit you'd be able to do that wouldn't be overwhelming because it would all be operating on the same fluid pipes. They'd obviously have to increase the pipeline limit from 320 to support it.

>>719015027
The rarity is actually really weird. It's not like people haven't done shit like recreating bad apple in factorio and even smaller communities like domiins have 2hu mods but factorio is oddly devoid of it.

>>718984005
Have you tried Shapez 2? It's fun and simple. Games like Factorio and Dyson Sphere Program gave me a headache, but Shapez 2 didn't.

>>718986443
Factorio is really devoid of it, see deadlock and earendel. It is just rarer and not as bad

>>718983425
>+ a pedo
have I missed something? what the fuck does a game about automation and xenocide and automating xenocide has to do with that???

>>718986443
Starsector mods are mostly fanfiction cosmetic stuff while factorion mods are functional.

>>719015525
White man's burden

I played the demo for 17 hours and then only put like 2 or 3 into the actual game.

>muh autism
autistic people are too retarded for complex games like this, it overwhelms their brains with too much information and stimuli

>>719008843
take the hint

>>719016191
Nah he's absolutely right and you should be permanently banned

>>718981963 (OP)
>play game 10 years ago
>have a great time
>recommend it to a friend 2 weeks ago
>it's a lot more tedious than I remember
>grit my teeth and make it all the way to the end of the game
>finally, it's ove-
>friend buys me the expac
what do?

>>719016741
Space Age speed up things alot. For real I cant play vanilla Factorio anymore.

>>718986603
I fucking hate Gleba.

>>719016836
>Space Age speed up things alot
The entire space age expac is just added tedium and relocates a lot of key research technologies to space, and also makes a lot of questionable design decisions like giving liquids infinite throughput, while simultaneously making them a major gimmick on two planets. Interplanetary logistics isn't interesting, its nauseatingly tedious, and the planets themselves arent appealing either. By the time you get there you already know how the sausage is made and it's just dumping blueprints over and over to upscale. Additionally, things like foundries are incredibly stupid and unfun. They've retroactively ruined nauvis.

>>719017334
>foundries are incredibly stupid and unfun. They've retroactively ruined nauvis.
You don't need to put them on nauvis or space platforms.

>>718986443
contained lua modding scene where you can't fuck with core mechanics
vs
full source code tweaking thanks to the power of java

>>719017545
They exist. They're necessary on vulcanus. You need them to progress. This isn't much of an argument. Better to just move on to better games.

>>719017593
The factorio modding scene is honestly really bad and I don't see it surviving 20 years from like most open source alternatives. There's simply nothing interesting that can be added to the game and I don't see productions chains being revolutionized the way industry chains were in OpenTTD. There's no way to make factorio more fun by adding more steps, it's just slamming down more blueprints to fill up your main bus.

>>719017334
>By the time you get there you already know how the sausage is made
Not everyone watched a fucking Lets Player or some goddamn guide on youtube
Many people in this thread admittedly were filtered by Gleba

>>718981963 (OP)
This game is like crack cocaine for autists such as myeslf

>>719017930
>Not everyone watched a fucking Lets Player or some goddamn guide on youtube
You don't need to watch a let's play to figure out you need to produce X amount to meet Y demand.
>Many people in this thread admittedly were filtered by Gleba
Yeah because the game got tedious and boring.

>>718990613
I fucking hate heat pipes. Why can't I just have them go over the fluid pipe?

>>719018067
>Yeah because the game got tedious and boring.
Nah, you just gave up because you felt stupid and couldnt accept that you had to take a break and figure it out later.

>>719018393
There is nothing in the game that cannot be figured out in under 5 minutes. It's just boring and I was willing to give these threads the benefit of the doubt but you people literally can't help yourself and repeatedly end up replying to dumb bait threads where the OP isn't even playing the game. This is no different than the sea of other casual dogshit on /v/ like morrowind where people think they're geniuses for playing a shitty easy game with zero depth and then make a permanent general deepthroating how intelligent they are. If you were intelligent you wouldn't have bumped this awful thread and every further post proves me more and more right. Now retards realize they can just hang out in here and shitpost, this game won't recieve proper discussion again on /v/ for the next 10 years minimum.

>>719018848
>tranime faggot throws a tantrum over a game he's too stupid to play
Many such cases

I've had Factorio for a decade and have only booted it up a couple times. Got interrupted when trying the tutorial and got too intimitdated to attempt it again. Started a world with a fren and zoommed around to shoot at the bugs but didn't have enough time that night to invest in any actual factory enjoyment. Games like Rimworld are not my cup of autism and Factorio seems like a job after already programming for my job all day. Still want to give it a proper shot though but the fact that the game's been solved ruins the desire. Don't know where to start though. Heard that it takes something like 3k hours to even get to the space age expansion too.

>>719019317
I'm one of the people who have been making threads on it and posting actual gameplay. Now I'm not going to play it any more.

>>719019435
They won't be able to resist replying to this one

>>719019453
Oh no, one less retard posting.

>>718981963 (OP)
Man I tried to play this but it's sooooo fucking boring and tedious. Does this mean I don't have autism after all?

>>719019617
I'm the only reason there were threads on factorio at all. Go back to your faggot /vg/ general.

>gachafag and r/a/pefugee who just shits up threads by complaining and avatarfagging instead of getting discussions going by posting screenshots or webms of their base
i'm 100% you're just OP and arguing with yourself at this point or some shit

>>719019723
I don't care what you did, you're whining like a bitch and every post I can identify as you is a worthless shitpost not discussing a video game but instead crying.

>>719019940
>instead of getting discussions going by posting screenshots or webms of their base
I made 90% of those webms. All of those were me retard.

>>718985883
There is no room for fun because balance is paramount, and Factorio is perfectly balanced because it's a solved game - anything you're trying to do in Factorio has already been mathematically optimized, placed on a wiki, blueprint made available for download and 2 hour video uploaded on youtube. Anyone playing this game is a wheel-reinventor

>>718984108
A mod adds that. It's pretty cool. Platform-to-platform logistics too.

>>719017698
>>You don't need to put them on nauvis or space platforms.
>They exist. They're necessary on vulcanus. You need them to progress. This isn't much of an argument
You big fucking retarded faggot, nobody said they're not needed on vulcanus. Only argument here is how many billions of gallons of semen you swallow every day.

>>718986603
gave up on this ultra-ribbon run because i could not find a single coal patch to save my life
love stupid challenges that require you to cram shit into small spaces, always fun

>>719020089
There is no getting past this for any new players once they realize this. It's a vicious cycle of testing your intuition of fundamentals and scale of automation against the most optimized solutions. Constant quizzes over algorithms instead of embracing spaghetti and having fun figuring things out.

>>718981963 (OP)
If you aren't autistic : >Joker. Png "You wouldn't get it"
If you are autistic : >Gandalf. Png "Run, you fools"

>plop down 70 turrets with red ammo
>doesn't even tickle the small demolisher
What. The. Fuck.

>>719021018
or you can stop being a wiki loving bitch and actually go and make your own fun in the sandbox game.
>but some guy made a factory better than yours
Some guy's using a better PC than mine, better stop playing vidya altogether!

>>719020089
>>719021018
You guys don't play game simply for the fun of it do you?

>>719021204
Poison nades and artillery for tiny worms.

>>719021204
Consider damage upgrades

>>719021204
as long as you have like 4~5 ammo researches, 20~40 turrets with red ammo should shred a small demolisher like a knife through butter

>>719021204
4 spidertrons will get you past medium worms (with upgraded rocket damage)

>>719020089
WTF kind of argument is this? Every single video game already has some cookie cutter build and a wiki. Do you really look up the best way to do things in a game before playing it yourself?

>me when i stop breathing oxygen because someone wrote a guide on how to do it the most optimized way
why even bother.. already solved....

Here is the avatarfag's favorite games of all time. Notice anything?

>>719020032
Here comes the meltdown. They're really gunna get mad now that they've realized the people they're tormenting are the few people left who actually post shit.

>>719022057
Oh shit is that Futari? That game rules. Why don't we have threads about that?

>>719022057
No I dont

>>719022057
General good taste?

>>719022202
Lmao nigger you are such a dramaqueen
>Are those... people calling me retarded? AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH I'M BEING TORMENTED SAVE ME NIGGERMAN

>>719021204
I used about 80 to kill a small worm, and that was fresh from nauvis without any purple/yellow science.

>>719022541
>>719022470
Bottom row

>>719022650
What's the problem exactly?

>>719022764
He has factorio on his favorite grid despite the fact he spent the whole thread complaining that it sucks and everyone who likes it is a retard

>>719021538
That's how I remembered it which is why I was so surprised.
Guess last time I had more than damage and speed 2.

>>719022905
Sounds like he knows what he's talking about then and his comparisons to openttd are apt. Strange that /egg/ doesn't discuss openttd, why is that?

they're greedy fucks, i will never buy it. the only thing they've ever done is RAISE the price. fuck right off i say

>>719023638
>not rising with inflation
it's getting cheaper every day.

>>719022905
Not anymore will it be, as it is a chart that is constantly in flux. I will likely replace it with some "weebshit" that you hate. Only the most excellent games remain for all time. I have been updating it for over 10 years, and there are already far superior logistics games which have been on much longer than it has. OpenTTD, Shadow Empire, War in the East 2, (although this one is more passive in its logistics), and Unity of Command 2 all have much better and far more satisfying logistical systems. I don't see games as arbitrary subgenres, but rather how they present gameplay. Factorio isn't entirely dissimilar from a city builder, which are just extremely casual logistics games; it is a much improved evolution of puzzling out the optimal city block and hammering it down endlessly, but the core flaws still remain, with the added cancer of survival crafting gameplay which entices the current generation so greatly, as its just an endless feedback loop of unlocking new toys that fundamentally change nothing.

>>719023638
>games have to get cheaper because the bits degrade when they're stored on flash for that long

>>719024185
yet my income doesn't change, funny

>>718981963 (OP)
You give me $35 and I'll give you the best game ever made by a man.

man if it wasnt for mahirokun this whole board would need to be glass lol thank god there is at least one genuine originalfag left
thanks for schooling these dumb zoomers all the time

>>718985019
Use Artillery and rockets. Kills the bastards good

>>718985668
pyanodons

>>719023638
You will pay $15 for a single shitty sandwich for lunch yet deny yourself thousands of hours of the best, most polished, most insanely optimized gamesplay ever made. Retardation.

>>719023638
ok just pirate it and talk about it yurotard, it's not like there's any drm

>>718985382
the combat was needed. you were already shooting shit into space, shooting shit at hostiles was an obvious next step.
there are loads of updates coming though so i'm not playing it again until those are out.
this 'plan b terraform' game i have via steam family sharing is getting a big update on friday so that's my buildy-factory game for now

>>718985382
The ground combat is pretty nice. Yhe default difficulty is very easy but there are sliders. The space combat needs some polishing.

>>719020089
you just described every game that takes more than mindless reflexes

>>719026663
yes. i stand by my principles. i will not buy games that don't go on sale

>>719026761
not worth my time

>>718986030
speedrunners are the type of autistics who are just plain retarded and have no redeeming qualities which is why they're a bunch of trannies and freaks

high testosterone causes a form of "autism" which just makes you fucking racist/sexist due to lower empathy and good at math and logic to a point of sometimes being a genius

>>719011887
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/miku-bikini-swimsuit

>>718982182
Anyone can figure out the base game. The DLC requires super autism.

>>719027359
This is untrue. Games are meant to be won, not solved. If a game is solvable then it's not a game, it's a puzzle. OpenTTD is great because there ultimately isn't a definitive answer to perfect optimisation and there will always be constant unexpected issues due to random map generation, as well as meaningful changes to gameplay through mods like YETI and FIRS. Every Factorio playthrough will ultimately be the same regardless of map generation or mods. This is sort of why raizing shmups are good, because there's an absolutely unhinged random element to them that makes them fun to replay.

>>719028289
are puzzle games games or puzzles?

>>719028620
That is a puzzle. A puzzle game uses puzzles as an intermediary for actual gameplay, like Tetris using puzzles as a means to the end of action gameplay. When you fill out a crossword puzzle in the newspaper you're not playing a game. The puzzle being digital doesn't make it a game. All great games are highly replayable. If you can't immediately start up a game after finishing it and have a good time, then that's a big detractor from its score in my opinion.

I often launch DSP to watch one of my stars getting bukkake'd by my railguns and rocket silo. I think I am brain damaged.

Crazy that I've been on this site for almost 20 years now, and at least one thing has remained true for that entire time: Avatarfags and namefags are insufferable, dramatic niggers that no one should ever engage with under any circumstance. It's as certain as death and taxes.

>>719028870
explain how "replayable" isn't mentioned in the definition of what a game is and how puzzle is

>>719029154
I don't understand what you mean.
A game is defined as
>a form of play or sport, especially a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck.
Nowhere does solving a rubiks cube fit into that definition. But if we add a timer to solving the rubiks cube and try to solve it as quickly as possible now it's a game. It's quite simple.

>>719029134
You realize you've been discussing factorio with me for the past 2+ weeks right? You have cooties now.

>>719029464
Even the definition you posted mentions adding time as a qualifier for being a game and I did not even anticipate that. Gotta love it when a plan comes together.

>>719029365
watch me turn this game into a puzzle

>>719029765
Why would you make it shit

>>719029836
>you
brother it's starfield

>>719029885
Fair enough, I didn't play that game. I don't even own skyrim and never will

>>719029582
That was the first post I've ever made in a factorio thread on this godforsaken board. This will be the last. I sincerely hope you do stop making threads like you promised, after seeing the absolute dumpster fire that this one turned into.

>>719030107
It was a dumpster fire the second OP made a thread that was just an image he pulled off google. All threads on /v/ like that are equally worthless and there will never be a good thread that starts off that way.

>>718997987
Captain of Industry is a certified hood classic. What map is that? Also how many wagons are you planning per train?

>>719030337
>Captain of Industry is a certified hood classic
lol

>>719030337
Next you'll be pretending tropico is a masterpiece.

>>718996429
No. Honestly I have a hard time going back. I found space age boring because of how bland the recipes were.

>>718984108
Ye. We need multiple drop pods and orbital to orbital transfer. There's 0 reason I shouldn't be able to transfer materials from my giga nigga starter space platform to my baby platform instead of having to rocket the materials up when they are 100 meters away from each other.

>>719012504
>use railgun to kill
>targets fluorine
>railguns destroy pipes, pumps, heat pipes, power lines, and possibly more.

Moronic take

belts teased to have three lanes as a shitpost in the official discord
reminder that stack inserters stacking items also started as a shitpost originally, until it was no longer one

>>718997593
Make more green circuits and red circuits

Like A LOT more

>>719032230
>official discord
I'd love that added, the 2 lanes is way too restrictive. They REALLY need a way to specify what lane the inserter puts it on though, it's retarded managing that.

>>719021204
Import a single tank with some uranium penetrator shells. It doesn't work against mediums, but easily clears smalls.

>>719032230
how the fuck would you belt balance this?

>>719032230
that'd make the game a lot easier. it'd simplify logistics and increase belt throughput even more ontop of stacking. things would be much smaller and simpler.

>>719032230
I would really like that just because it solves an autism destroyer of symmetry in where inserters place items on belts

>>719032816
you'd have to use a lot of filtered splitters off the top of my head

What’s the best way to portably play this game? Does it run well on a shit laptop? I travel a lot

>>719033472
Download the demo and find out

>>719033472
It's not really playable without a mouse and if you think it is you don't really understand it yet.

>>719033630
vim controls mod fucking when?

>>719024360
I feel the factory subgenre is already devolving back into shitty city builders. In fact everything that isn't factorio is pretty much just that.

Reminder: If you used any blueprints other than your own you didn't beat the game.

>but I find X annoying
You didn't beat the game

>belt balancers
You didn't beat the game

>>719023638
Don't bother trying to reason with these retards. They defend a game that raised in price after five years.

>but i
YOU'RE
DEFENDING
A
GAME
THAT
INCREASED
IN
PRICE
AFTER
YEARS

>>719034157
okay, don't play it

>>719034258
I didn't. I instead got satisfactory that went on sale, and I've been satisfactoried with it.

>>719032816
Just 1 extra splitter compared to the usual
>>719033472
shit runs on the switch, i doubt you're going to have issues running it

>>719019723
i'm looking forward to seeing the factorio threads continue to be made, even though you are apparently the only person making them

>>719033351
>>719034420
even for mono-input you'd still have no way to interact with the middle lane once it's on the belt.

>>719034157
>They defend a game that raised in price after five years.
Objectively a good thing. Most people want to see their investments go up not down.

>>719034568
They will now continue to be pictures of banners pulled off google with no gameplay and stuff reposted off /egg/ that will occupy the catalogue not for discussion, but to hold limited real estate permanently. Just like every other shitty thread on this dying board.

>>719034643
yeah you would, by filtering off the other lanes first

>>719017241
Just don't belt mash, jelly and nutrients beyond what's absolutely necessary. Look at the biolabls at the top. Spread them out by putting 60 empty distance between each of them. This is less space (and time) than you are wasting by making jelly where you don't need it.

>>718981963 (OP)
It's just a very good game, there's no particular deal with it, other than its very high quality level being very uncommon in the current industry.

>>719024771
mine is, seems like that's a problem exclusive to you

>>719028289
>OpenTTD is great because there ultimately isn't a definitive answer to perfect optimisation
There is
>there will always be constant unexpected issues due to random map generation
So? Factorio has a random map too, if you have a definitive answer there you have one in TTD
>as well as meaningful changes to gameplay through mods like YETI and FIRS
Which factorio also has and they change wsy, way more
you're trolling

>>719017334
>things like foundries are incredibly stupid and unfun
directly casting wire and gears is incredibly fun though

>>719024771
It is, it's getting lower. But you don't seem to have a problem with that.

>>719034310
Good for you, it's important to live your principles, don't let others bully you into trying to have a taste, l would also suggest quiting all games of entertainment, not showering, eating only the cheapest gruel and living on the street

>>719036095
Don't pay more than $30 for a PC game. No exceptions.

>>719036201
Don't spend more than $30 a year for anything. No exceptions.

>>719010457
>i'm not autistic
yeah... right...

>>719033472
steam deck

>>719010130
Unless you are making a megafactory all starter patches are more than enough except for Nauvis

>>718981963 (OP)
I tried playing both this and satisfactory and I just couldnt get into it. not autistic or german enough I guess

>>719020089
Yeah, there's a meta. But playing as Jeff and throwing people out of the map is fun even if it isn't optimal.
We are born of the spaghetti.
Made men by the spaghetti.
Undone by the spaghetti.
Redone by the bots.
Fear the old pasta.
By the Gods, fear it Engineer.

>>719021204
I just did a few mobile tungsten mining runs, researched artillery and started blasting. B

>>719035304
>Which factorio also has and they change wsy, way more
No, production changes in factorio are inconsequential compared to industry changes in OpenTTD, especially factoring in automated logistics systems trivializing everything. Speaking of logistics systems, factorio has no answer to openttd's logic gates and advanced rail signaling. There's simply only so many ways to address a problem in the former, making factorio a crude facsimile at best with a low ceiling.

>>719033472
I have a 15 yo old laptop that idk how the fuck is still working and Factorio runs like a charm, while opening 4 tabs on chrome sounds like you have an airplane in the living room.
Factorio has to be the most optimized game of all time considering the amount of entities it can have

>>719032230
If they do this they have absolutely no fucking excuse for letting you use Biolabs on other planets or Quality on Crushers. They're gunning to remove modules on crushers, the fucking dickheads.

>>719038807
what
how does three way belt correlate with stopping biolabs being used outside of gleba (basically already the case, shit sucks) and quality on crushers (based??)

>>719039330
you're thinking of biochambers. biolabs are the better research labs.

>>719039632
in my defense i've been sitting on gleba for too long on this run
thank god the thread is about to hit bump limit, otherwise i'd feel silly for a very long time

>>718981963 (OP)
It's what happens if you combine autism and good game design in equal measure.

>>719040971
But factorio is a very lazily designed game with endless numbers go up chasing with little to no obstacles

>>719041019
Your own autism is the obstacle.

good thread good thread lets have the next one without the silly boomer

>>719032230
>let's up throughput by 33% globally and eliminate every minor logistical obstacles
This is unironic cancer even as a joke.

I hate this game but I love Opus Magnum. I wonder why.

>>719041143
You realize openttd is the actual anime aspergers game right? Go look up openttd logic circuits on youtube and find me a single channel on it that's not full of weebshit.

>>718992858
I agree, could be a good idea, but poor execution.

When you unlock quality, you immediately have access to uncommon and rare things. Almost everyone skips right over uncommon quality for everything except stuff like power poles. There's just no room for using anything other than maximum quality for things like weapons, the car/tank, etc.

Initially, quality items require you to modify your setup a bit to take advantage of filtering out quality goods from your miners, your furnaces, etc. so you can take the better materials and make better end products from them. And then shortly after unlocking quality, you get access to the recycler from Fulgora and suddenly you don't need to bother with it anymore. Just make a section of your factory that endlessly recycles non-quality products to eventually get the thing you want. At this point, making quality goods just becomes a function of resources; if you have +10% quality, you just need to spend 10x the resources to make a quality item, recycling the things that don't work out.

I think that quality too is not attractive enough for most machines. I don't care if a few crafting machines have +30% crafting speed, that's not a big draw until I'm hitting the really high quality stuff. So it becomes and all or nothing affair, where I'm just upgrading my entire factory to quality machines at once because until I get recyclers to do it at scale there doesn't really feel like a reason to do so.

>>718988037
IXE was a bit of a letdown, though i bet it was a pleasure to make.
CW4 is such a guilty pleasure because of how braindead it really is

>>719041210
Well opus magnum isn't a video game for starters

>>719041307
Hmm, yes it is sweaty

>>719041424
>a collection of sudoku puzzles is a video game

>>719041481
you might be thinking of another game

>>719041559
No I am most definitely not and zachtronics "games" are for retarded geriatrics.

>>719041148
50% increase mathlet

>>719041143
spergery aside, it was a "ok" thread
i think hosting a /v/ server on friday+ the weekend would be a fun idea
maybe a classic krastorio 2 run or something

>>719041236
https://youtube.com/@masterhellish?si=UXt9ujjhysMnMIcJ
Damn that was easy