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Anonymous No.718267360 >>718267507 >>718267683 >>718267801 >>718267902 >>718268129 >>718269501 >>718270814 >>718281112 >>718282223 >>718284723 >>718301801 >>718306724 >>718311810 >>718316036 >>718318239
Undertale Yellow
Welcome to the thread, friends!
Feel free to share your UTY art, fanfiction, or anything else UTY-related that you're working on.
Of course, everyone is welcome to join in on the discussions!
Anonymous No.718267507
>>718267360 (OP)
Here's hoping we having another successful thread like we did last time.
Anonymous No.718267572 >>718267895 >>718271049
aw shit here we go again.
Anonymous No.718267668 >>718268624
There was an interesting topic about Clover and his idea of Justice on this thread here.
>>>/vrpg/3826800

It'll be keep topic for this thread.
Anonymous No.718267683 >>718267824
>>718267360 (OP)
Did anyone play that Blue soul demo that came out yesterday? It's called Undertale Promise
Anonymous No.718267801
>>718267360 (OP)
reminder that ceroba is fat
Anonymous No.718267824 >>718268095
>>718267683
I played it and from what I experienced, they intend to make it canon to Undertale Yellow.
So in a surprising twist Genocide is the canon route.
Anonymous No.718267895
>>718267572
Here we go again, to have another decent thread.
Anonymous No.718267902 >>718268204 >>718270702
>>718267360 (OP)
I don't play fangames.
Anonymous No.718268095
>>718267824
>it and from what I experienced, they intend to make it canon to Undertale Yellow.
I mean that's the entire gimmick of the game, you can clearly see Dalv and Kanako in the gamejolt page
Anonymous No.718268117 >>718269108
This thread is owned by ShuGODUNRELENTING the CANON btw.
Anonymous No.718268129 >>718268306 >>718268497
>>718267360 (OP)
What would be some traits and colors that could work for new soul traits?

I had a couple ideas for a silver colored soul mode that gives you temporary invulnerability and a gold colored soul mode that gives you a dash, but I have no idea what traits they would be associated with.

You can also just suggest new soul traits you think would be cool in general. Like I thought loyalty would make a good trait, even though it doesn't fit either of those modes I came up with.
Anonymous No.718268204
>>718267902
You should, they're fun.
Drawanon No.718268302 >>718268462 >>718268483 >>718268535 >>718268602 >>718268626 >>718268631 >>718268670 >>718268802 >>718268964 >>718269109 >>718269227 >>718269832 >>718270173 >>718270286 >>718273394 >>718275854 >>718276263 >>718279238 >>718288502
Hey guys drawnon from the UTY thread!

I wasn't able to post these images in the last thread since it ended, but here's the most requested idea, from my replies.
Which was a wholesome Deltarune Yellow scene featuring Martlet bathing with Cole, and Cole being flustered.

You can check it out here:
https://files.catbox.moe/le8ckp.png

And here's a bonus version of the image with Zenith Martlet:
https://files.catbox.moe/dlyvn5.png

And since I'm here.
I'm sure you know by now what question I'm going to ask.
Martlet or Ceroba?
Anonymous No.718268306 >>718284429
>>718268129
I wanna the Pink soul to be "passion", but I have no idea on any gimmick
Anonymous No.718268462 >>718269447
>>718268302
Ceroba.
If you're gonna do another image of a character bathing with someone, any chance we could have Ceroba bathing with an [adult] Anon?
Anonymous No.718268483
>>718268302
why not mooch for a change?
Anonymous No.718268497 >>718269164
>>718268129
>Like I thought loyalty would make a good trait,
Doesn't that fall under integrity already?
Anonymous No.718268535
>>718268302
First of damn these look good!
As for my answer more Martlet please!
You also can't go wrong with drawing more Zenith.
Anonymous No.718268602
>>718268302
More Martlet and Cole "wholesome" family moments
Anonymous No.718268624 >>718269168 >>718269532
>>718267668
Justice was not served to clover himself, even if his death was the objectively best solution for everyone doesn't that mean he was given injustice? to say that it was the only way things could have happened that doesn't mean it was right.
Anonymous No.718268626
>>718268302
Martlet, Martlet, Martlet, Martlet, Martlet.
Anonymous No.718268631 >>718268703
>>718268302
I'd say more Martlet. We have enough Ceroba.
Anonymous No.718268670
>>718268302
Ceroba
Anonymous No.718268703
>>718268631
Agreed Ceroba gets plenty of stuff. Martlet deserves more attention, and Zartlet to.
Anonymous No.718268802
>>718268302
Someone should definitely make a greentext or mini fic that details this wholesome moment between Cole and Martlet.
It's both funny, and yet also incredibly heartwarming.
Anonymous No.718268964
>>718268302
More Zenith Martlet please!
Anonymous No.718269108 >>718269614
>>718268117
I need to see ShuCHAD interacting with WEAKley the COWARD or JOBal the TARD
Anonymous No.718269109 >>718269656
>>718268302
someone pointed this out before but the still concerned expression on zenith is good. I feel like outside of one off drawings there isn't much content of zenith protecting clover, I understand what route shes from regardless
Anonymous No.718269164
>>718268497
Patience, perseverance, and determination have more in common that loyalty and integrity do. Integrity is about staying true to values or principles, loyalty is about dedication to people, places, or things.
Anonymous No.718269168 >>718269539
>>718268624
Justice wasn't served to Clover, but in the context of that argument specifically, they're the only one on the receiving end of an injustice.
Anonymous No.718269227
>>718268302
Martlet AND Ceroba, at the same time
Anonymous No.718269281
posting this again because I can.
https://files.catbox.moe/yquwjl.png
Anonymous No.718269447 >>718269549
>>718268462
Maybe it could be Ceroba and Chujin (or anon) in a traditional Japanese bath house.
Anonymous No.718269501 >>718270165 >>718285047
>>718267360 (OP)
Anonymous No.718269532 >>718269646
>>718268624
I'd say it was an injustice to his friends as well since they're left hurt by his death and any enjoyment they could get from their freedom is left tainted by knowing the cost it took to get it.
Anonymous No.718269539 >>718269869
>>718269168
I dont agree. setting expectations with people and then breaking those expectations is betrayal. Plus martlet didn't deserve that, she didn't go anything close to all out as she confronted you as part of her duty, and then calls off the fight and puts her future on the line to try and help. shes bumbling but she isn't deserving of such things. she's also the most likely person to confront clover about it afterwards
Anonymous No.718269549 >>718269781
>>718269447
>traditional Japanese bath house.
Oh yeah, there isn't a bathroom in the estate.
Hm.
Anonymous No.718269614 >>718269761
>>718269108
I genuinely can't tell who you're talking about.
Anonymous No.718269646
>>718269532
and you cant really say that clover didn't value these people as his friends after what he went through based on how the ending played out.
Drawanon No.718269656 >>718269827 >>718270513
>>718269109
Personally Zenith to me doesn't always have to be antagonist towards Clover, or in this case Cole.
At the end of the day Zenith is still Martlet, and I feel in different circumstances she'd be just as protective as she was in her normal form.
I also do believe, as others have mentioned, that when Martlet goes Zenith, outside of becoming more attractive, she undergoes something of a personality change.
I also headcanon in Deltarune Yellow, Martlet's body shifts into something more Zenith like depending on her mood and mindset.
So one moment you can have Momlet, next moment you can momma Zartlet.
Anonymous No.718269761 >>718269959
>>718269614
Riley from Wildfire and Val Undertale Naranja
Anonymous No.718269781
>>718269549
It would be funny if we've been shitposting about Roba being smelly because of not having a shower, when this whole time she had an entire building dedicated to bathing.
Anonymous No.718269827 >>718270458 >>718270513
>>718269656
she does take some clear traits from her normal self in zenith, and I think part of what makes zenith good other than appearance is that she's a logical conclusion to "what if martlet injected herself with the will to live and stood up for what shes been shown to believe it".
the way she stutters in the beginning of phase two, I dont think thats a damage thing since all thats happened is her armor is destroyed. I think thats just her old lack of confidence tangling with the new screaming power to do whats right.
Anonymous No.718269832
>>718268302
Just letting you know your Ceroba being pregnant with Clover, alongside the game over with flowey talking about it has gotten pretty popular lol
Perhaps you can try drawing another Martlet one, and making a game over gif to go with that image to.
Anonymous No.718269869 >>718270183 >>718270275
>>718269539
>setting expectations with people and then breaking those expectations is betrayal.
It's not a betrayal to change your mind, especially in an instance where the people you're changing your mind about have all (except Martlet) tried to kill you.
Also, about Martlet. Okay, she doesn't go as hard on Clover during her pacifist fight, but she's still keeping that DT syringe on her in case she needs to put you down, so even she was planning on having to kill you at some point. That's not as bad as what Starlo and Ceroba did, but it's definitely not great. If I learned that a friend of mine was keeping a magnum on their person specifically to kill me as a contingency plan, I think my trust in them would be pretty shaken.
There's a reason most people don't like working with Batman after they find out he has plans to kill them all.
Anonymous No.718269959
>>718269761
I could see Riley playing along with him the way Goku does with Mr Satan. Val would beat the shit out of him though, possibly only sparing him if Shu manages to appeal to his better side with a "Goku wouldn't do that" argument. If he could manage to convince Val not to kill him, then I could see them becoming great friends over their shared interests.
Anonymous No.718270165 >>718284386
>>718269501
ok but consider
Anonymous No.718270173
>>718268302
You're pregnant arts are really good, so I wouldn't mind see more of that. With Martlet or Zenith.
Anonymous No.718270183 >>718270541
>>718269869
If you forgive someone then go back on your forgiveness, that's breaking your word, which is a kind of betrayal. Not that this argument is relevant. Clover still thought of them as his friends, which is why he did it in the first place.
Anonymous No.718270245 >>718270621
I asked this in the /vrpg/ thread already but I figured I’d ask it here too, if the 6 fallen humans had monster bfs/gfs, what kind of monsters would they be dating? We already know who Justice is with (unless you have a different yellow soul human headcanon that isn’t UTY).
Anonymous No.718270275
>>718269869
>It's not a betrayal to change your mind
it depends on the change of mind. are you changing someone from innocent to guilty without new evidence? you've done wrong and called the "courts" integrity into question. are you deciding that the relationship can not continue? you owe it to to people you've allowed to swear themselves as your protectors to confront them because now you've dug a whole different hole.
>but she's still keeping that DT syringe on her in case she needs to put you down, so even she was planning on having to kill you at some point. That's not as bad as what Starlo and Ceroba did, but it's definitely not great.
there is genuinely nothing wrong with this. she has a contingency against something she's been told her whole life was evil and actively chooses not to use it to try and see the good in other people. you're taking something virtuous and painting it as wrong!
>There's a reason most people don't like working with Batman after they find out he has plans to kill them all.
Batman is also an unstable person doing this against literally everyone. Martlet is doing this justifiably against the number one greatest threat to the underground, actively choosing not to use it because she wants to believe that what she was taught is wrong, and in the neutral routes she shows it to you before disposing of it (as opposed to disposing of it off screen). she actively puts herself at risk of conflict by showing clover because her sense of integrity and justice were very strong. Martlet is probably the most consistently written character in the game barring everyone just walking out of the room for clover to die.
Anonymous No.718270286
>>718268302
Thank you for your contributions to wholesome moments between Martlet and Cole soldier.
Anonymous No.718270458 >>718270819 >>718271680
>>718269827
also, would she still have any of her bumbling tendencies or would the determination just make her too focused all the time? even a human can slack off so surely when stakes aren't high she could be light hearted
Anonymous No.718270513
>>718269827
>>718269656
I think it'd be interesting to see this kind of transformation applied to another character to see how they'd react.
Anonymous No.718270541 >>718270691 >>718270731
>>718270183
>If you forgive someone then go back on your forgiveness, that's breaking your word, which is a kind of betrayal.
I didn't say anything about going back on forgiveness, we're talking about going back on staying with them. Again, those are separate things. In this specific context, Clover could still forgive what the main cast did to them *and* still choose to go and give up their soul against their wishes anyway. My entire point is that personal feelings aren't relevant here for the topic of Justice. In this context, Clover's friends may have been hurt by their decision, but they haven't been wronged, since that implies they've been denied something they were owed, and they weren't owed anything. No injustice has been committed on that front.
Anonymous No.718270621 >>718271019 >>718271630
>>718270245
Chapter 3 and 4 convinced me that Ice Wolf is a girl so now I like to imagine this dynamic with her and the kindness human.
Anonymous No.718270691
>>718270541
I'd say his friends were wronged by the pain his suicide caused them.
Anonymous No.718270702 >>718315071
>>718267902
it's legit good stuff
Anonymous No.718270731 >>718271369
>>718270541
>but they haven't been wronged
I still disagree adamantly. you can handwave things away but leaving in the middle of the night after setting the expectation that he was going to live with them is giving them a belief that they were now his protectors and then turning up dead the next morning. thats not a small deal, thats not just something that would hurt them a little bit, and they WERE owed in this situation the trust that clover implicitly gave to them by entering into this relationship. if you give someone your word then either your word means something or it doesn't, and clover being about justice his word would clearly be important.
Anonymous No.718270814 >>718270979
>>718267360 (OP)
I'm sure if we make every thread exactly like this the janny won't do anything to us
Anonymous No.718270819 >>718270927
>>718270458
The idea of a 20ft tall bird of prey being a bumbling klutz is funny, so I like to thing she does.
Anonymous No.718270927
>>718270819
I can imagine that when things are normal she's bumping her head into doors and still cant cook, but if something serious happened the DT would rush to her head and her normal nature would be less evident.
Anonymous No.718270979
>>718270814
I mean if the jannys can recognize that we have 1 maybe 2 threads top a week and let them be then I can play ball
Anonymous No.718271019 >>718271303
>>718270621
>Chapter 3 and 4 convinced me that Ice Wolf is a girl
Wait way?
Anonymous No.718271049 >>718271157
>>718267572
Martlet's chest in this is quite prominent
Anonymous No.718271157
>>718271049
she's a woman after all
Anonymous No.718271303 >>718271426
>>718271019
Faw Faw is a really feminine name. That combined with the pink shirt and the feminine eye lashes makes me think girl.
Anonymous No.718271356 >>718271789 >>718271926 >>718273924
Kanaklover if they kissed unironically
Anonymous No.718271369 >>718271776
>>718270731
>and they WERE owed in this situation the trust that clover implicitly gave to them by entering into this relationship.
Clover could easily genuinely change their mind after living with them for a while, and that's not wrong. It's their own life, they're allowed to take their future into their own hands like that if they want to, even if that means cutting things short.
Didn't Ceroba owe Clover not to break their trust while traveling with them through the steamworks? Didn't Starlo owe Clover not to kill them after their time in the wild east?
Clover was owed things too, and they sure as shit didn't get them. To that end, the feelings of the main cast aren't relevant to the topic of justice.
There is no justice one way or the other. It's an injustice for Clover to die for this cause. It's justice for monsterkind to go free. Clover's friends being hurt in this context isn't anything, it just is. It's life. "Justice" isn't something that applies in this case, because in order for them to get what they wanted, Clover's sacrifice would've had to have been denied, and that's not what Clover themself wanted, and it would've been to the colossal injustice of the rest of monsterkind.
Anonymous No.718271426 >>718271623
>>718271303
I don’t remember seeing anything about Ice Wolf’s name being Faw Faw, where’s that dialogue at?
Anonymous No.718271623 >>718271945
>>718271426
When you interact with her while she's putting up the festival decorations on the town hall. She says "call me Faw Faw". Maybe I'm just misreading this, but I want to believe.
Anonymous No.718271630 >>718271705
>>718270621
Ice Wolf is obviously Bara modeled
Drawanon No.718271680 >>718272035
>>718270458
If we took Zenith Martlet out of a life of death situation, I'd imagine she'd behave just like normal Martlet, but likely with a few differences.

She'd probably be a lot more confident and less ditzy.
Likely wouldn't as naive as she was in her normal form,
Either flustered at her new assets, or she might like them but spend some time getting used to them.
As for looking after Cole/Clover she'd likely love them all the same, though she'd probably be a bit more stern in regards to some things, and more willing get dangerous if the situation called for it.
Anonymous No.718271705 >>718271945
>>718271630
You really think Tobias "King of ero games and master of subversions" wouldn't subvert your expectations by making the bara wolf guy actually be a furry muscle mommy?
Anonymous No.718271713 >>718272008
I understand that the Contract Rush DX dev is vaguely related to your community. Anyone have any opinion on the game?
Anonymous No.718271776 >>718271882 >>718272218
>>718271369
>Clover could easily genuinely change their mind after living with them for a while, and that's not wrong. It's their own life, they're allowed to take their future into their own hands like that if they want to, even if that means cutting things short.
and having placed the burden of caregiver on these people he owes them to confront them about it because otherwise he's putting the guilt of a child dying on their watch on them while they were still very much so his caregivers.
>Didn't Ceroba owe Clover not to break their trust while traveling with them through the steamworks? Didn't Starlo owe Clover not to kill them after their time in the wild east?
yes, and they fucked up and clover chose to forgive them. that does not mean him chosing to do things the wrong way later would suddenly be correct. not doing right by people just because they haven't done right by you does not make you virtuous, and if you've given them another chance and they are taking that chance seriously in good faith, then not only are you being not virtuous, you're actively wronging them by betraying the expectation that you yourself placed.
>To that end, the feelings of the main cast aren't relevant to the topic of justice.
first of all justice for the few is still important even if it gets trampled under the "greater good" and the original point of this argument was clover coming back to life after the barrier was broken and holding guilt because in order to do what he felt was right, he had to hurt people he would clearly believe didn't deserve to be hurt. Justice absolutely applies because clover did something objectively harmful to people he cares about in order to do something good. The weight of such decisions even when they have to be done is not light and handwaving it away doesn't change that dynamic.

originally I suggested that clover if he came back would feel guilty over having hurt his friends in order to do what was right and would not go reunite with them himself
Drawanon No.718271789
>>718271356
That's actually a really good drawing!
If you drew that, all I can say is well done!
Anonymous No.718271882
>>718271776
but if his friends heard of his return, they would or at least martlet would confront him and while he would defend his actions, martlet in her own sense of justice way would probably ask him "what about justice for those you cared about, and what about justice for yourself". theres no chance just because it was the greatest amount of good that clover wouldn't feel terrible about putting that weight on his friends. he chose to kill himself originally when his friends were discussing all the challenges that would go into keeping him safe. he clearly acts with his friends in mind and knowing he hurt them would be a big deal for him.
Anonymous No.718271926 >>718272539 >>718272754
>>718271356
Doing the dance
Anonymous No.718271945 >>718272106 >>718320136
>>718271623
I must’ve missed that.
>>718271705
What would a Toby made eroge actually look like? Or an undertale style eroge to keep things on topic.
Anonymous No.718272008
>>718271713
>I understand that the Contract Rush DX dev is vaguely related to your community
The main artist of that game worked on UTY, I haven't played Contract Rush yet but I know the game has some references to Undertale Yellow
Anonymous No.718272035
>>718271680
>Likely wouldn't as naive as she was in her normal form
I could imagine her keeping that "open heart" approach to life if she didn't become zenith BECAUSE of a life and death situation. in that kind of life she'd probably be more aggressive about the idea that "they cant be that bad" when it comes to humans.
Anonymous No.718272106 >>718272604 >>718273903
>>718271945
>What would a Toby made eroge actually look like? Or an undertale style eroge to keep things on topic.
Every female character is a lesbian that cucks the player and every gay male is a stereotype/used for "no homo" jokes
Anonymous No.718272218 >>718272447
>>718271776
>originally I suggested that clover if he came back would feel guilty over having hurt his friends in order to do what was right and would not go reunite with them himself
I know that's how this all started, and my argument against that was that Clover might feel bad about what they did, but not necessarily *guilty* over it specifically. To be clear, I mean that Clover would probably feel bad about what they did, but not in the sense that they would feel that what they did was wrong. As a soul of justice, I believe they'd prioritize the big picture, and still see their sacrifice as being worth the price, even if it hurt people they cared about.
Anonymous No.718272447 >>718272994
>>718272218
and now that the big picture is handled, they would feel guilty because they had to do bad to do good, and that kind of thing weighs heavily on hardened adults let alone a kid that tried to solve all of the worlds problems by killing himself. the road to hell is paved with good intentions and while maybe clover brought most everyone to heaven, he hurt the people closest to him.

also I was just restating that part mostly for if there were new people in the discussion
Anonymous No.718272539 >>718272604
>>718271926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3KYvmNJ8UA
Anonymous No.718272604 >>718272952
>>718272106
You’re forgetting Toby’s other favorite kind of woman, MILFs.
>>718272539
Why would they do that?
Anonymous No.718272754
>>718271926
imagine Chujin walking in on this
Anonymous No.718272952
>>718272604
you can only dance the ol' jitterbug if you are actively disrespecting someone
Anonymous No.718272994 >>718273483 >>718273586
>>718272447
Okay, but, "guilty", as in, a feeling of having committed a wrongdoing. Injustice, as we came to refer to it.
I'm arguing that based on Clover's character and the decisions they make outside of the player's control [the player isn't much of a factor in UTY, it's more of an original UT situation than a DR one], they'd have a much more pragmatic view of things than that.
Think something like the interaction between Shepard and Mordin Solus in Mass Effect 3 before Mordin sacrifices himself: "I'm Sorry." "I'm not. Had to be me. Someone else might've gotten it wrong.".
Like, Clover would understand that their death, especially in this context, would hurt people, but I don't see them bawling their eyes out over it, since they never really display any major emotion at any point in the game like that.
They'd be sorry things had to be that way, but I really don't see them ever seeing what they did as wrong, and I don't think they'd specifically be guilty over it.
Anonymous No.718273394
>>718268302
More pregnant Martlet please.
Anonymous No.718273483 >>718273830
>>718272994
>cold emotionless psychopath clover
I'd rather not go with this interpretation
Anonymous No.718273586 >>718273987
>>718272994
>they'd have a much more pragmatic view of things than that.
we know they aren't beyond emotional based behavior, giving their items to starlo and martlet, telling ceroba to leave (obviously so she doesn't have to watch him die). these can be pragmatic but they hint at something caring more directly. his pragmatism shows up in a self sacrificing manner, he's ok suffering and dying if its for the sake of his friends who don't deserve this injustice. you're looking at it from an adult and detached perspective when their decision was an emotional one considering it forgets that his soul is also going towards the war against humanity (to the knowledge at that time). you also call upon the justice side of things frequently through the argument but handwave clover giving additional suffering that wouldn't have been there if he had just refused to stay with the gang as not being an injustice or something hed feel guilty over because you've oversensationalized his pragmatism. we know he's prone to emotion but doesn't express it, aside from his clear signs of care in the pacifist end, in neutral he wants to cry in the flowey fight but has no eyes, his rage sparks over learning that axis killed the human (and really, axis was forced to so there could be an arugment to pardon him for being coerced but with the LV increase that was clearly clover reacting with rage to what he learned. if he was so pragmatic he wouldnt need to "find a reason to hate martlet" in the genocide ending, he already cleared out the underground whats one more monster to bring true justice. all of the signs point to clover being strong willed yet having a lot of emotion under the surface. Im not calling him a helpless little bean but we have signs in every single route of this kind of stuff.
Anonymous No.718273830 >>718274221 >>718274314
>>718273483
Not an emotionless psychopath, just a person who highly values a certain ideal to the point of being willing to give up their own life to it, and not seeing anything wrong with that. There are a few of those in UT, namely Papyrus, who adheres so strongly to his belief that anyone can change that he's willing to stand still and let you kill him, and even holds onto his ideals as he's dying. We also partially see it with Flowey, who tells you to kill him after his neutral route fight, and genuinely doesn't understand when you defy his belief that the world is kill or be killed.
Hard idealists aren't anything new to UT, and the idea of a person whose soul is entirely composed of a single aspect, justice, holding justice as a hard ideal like that isn't the most unreasonable thing in the world.
I'm not saying Clover wouldn't care about how their pursuit of justice affects others, I'm saying they would consider such things to be secondary, like Papyrus and Flowey do.
Anonymous No.718273839 >>718296290 >>718296462
OHHHH someone made a lora
Anonymous No.718273903 >>718274390 >>718274707
>>718272106
And every straight male is lame, a virgin jerk, cucked or gets stepped on by a dominant woman
Anonymous No.718273924 >>718274226
>>718271356
It fills me with pain, as both those kids died without knowing a lover's kiss.
Anonymous No.718273987 >>718274319
>>718273586
and to point out, these are clovers act choices here against flowey. I can not fathom how clover would not feel regret over hurting his friends. he did the right thing by his beliefs sure but he still had to betray their trust and make them suffer, you can say all you want that they deserved it because they betrayed him first but clover clearly thinks of them as friends in the pacifist route so why wouldn't that weigh on him. why wouldnt he lament that in order to help his friends he had to hurt them, especially if martlet was to come find him and tell him "thats not justice, thats not justice for us and that wasn't justice for you", and considering that martlet thinks the individual is important considering she gives clover so many chances to prove that he's actually good thats very in line for something she could say.
Anonymous No.718274221 >>718274460
>>718273830
I think if he had any shred of empathy, he'd still hurt over how much he hurt his friends doing what he did. Even if he does believe it had to be done. I'd go so far as to say that he should be torn over it, since hurting them was still an injustice, even if he considered leaving all the monsters trapped to be an even bigger injustice. Idealists tend to not handle situations in which their ideal fails very well. Regardless of how Clover tries to look at it, what happened there wasn't justice, not really. Justice doesn't punish innocent people for the crimes of others.
Anonymous No.718274226 >>718274356
>>718273924
blame the devs for genuinely not knowing better
Anonymous No.718274314
>>718273830
flowey doesn't "believe" in shit, he's desperately trying to win the "game" and then doesn't understand when you aren't fitting into the worldview he adopted, but he's not so passionate like that. papyrus is passionate in his beliefs but isn't jaded about it, the person to person factor is a massive thing for papyrus and his interactions. your vision of clover ignores all of the times we have seen overt hinting at his emotions and his inner thoughts. yellow is decently heavy handed at giving you an impression who clover is under the mask and it shows someone who wants to care, possibly too much. in genocide he embraces that anger and tries to force other emotions away by finding justification (again like against martlet) and I've gone into detail for some others in my other post
Anonymous No.718274319 >>718274552
>>718273987
>these are clovers act choices here against flowey. I can not fathom how clover would not feel regret over hurting his friends.
Clover's acting more emotionally in that fight because in the context of a route where that fight happens, Clover's had to kill at least one person, and they literally just watched Martlet get skewered by Flowey right in front of them, and hear that Martlet thinks they did it before they die. It's an entirely different situation from their sacrifice in pacifist. Clover's "weeping" here, but doesn't even break their poker face at the end of true pacifist. The hurt's coming from a different place, and they feel differently about it as a result.
Anonymous No.718274356 >>718274456
>>718274226
How the fuck did they just waste a plot thread like that. Every dead kid in Undertale, even the one that got memoryhole'd by the Dreemurrs was significant enough to be characterized. What the hell.
Anonymous No.718274390
>>718273903
?or gets stepped on by a dominant woman
So what you're saying is Faw Faw route is still possible.
Anonymous No.718274424 >>718274490 >>718274530 >>718278059 >>718279345 >>718282450 >>718284652 >>718285047
Anonymous No.718274456
>>718274356
But anon, she was muh footnote.
Anonymous No.718274460 >>718274694
>>718274221
>I think if he had any shred of empathy, he'd still hurt over how much he hurt his friends doing what he did.
Yeah, hurt, but not "guilt". I'm specifically not saying that Clover wouldn't feel a thing about it, I'm saying that they wouldn't feel as though what they did was *wrong*. They'd probably still feel *hurt*, but not *guilt*.
Anonymous No.718274490
>>718274424
>kneeling while Clover ravage Kanako on the parental bed
kino
Anonymous No.718274530
>>718274424
What in god's name is the context of this?
Anonymous No.718274552 >>718274704 >>718275027
>>718274319
nonsense, so clover killed one person and his entire personality changes, or perhaps people feeling he betrayed them hurts him because a man of justice is a man of his word, and if he went back on his word to stay with the group then by again, betraying , that expectation clover would feel guilty. if anything his reaction in neutral being about martlet thinking he betrayed her is even more damning and illustrates my point even more. in fact this situation is the most emotionally torn up we ever see him. if anything im more convinced than ever
Anonymous No.718274694
>>718274460
You can feel guilt over doing the right thing. Even if something is right it can still feel wrong and make you feel guilty. I think Clover would feel guilt over hurting his friends bad enough to make him question if it was the right thing to do. Even if he still believes it was, that nagging doubt would still be there, wearing on him.

Clover isn't Spock. He was a little boy playing cowboy who killed himself because everyone would be better off with him dead.
Anonymous No.718274704
>>718274552
and its not because hes dead because we've already seen thats apparently not the biggest deal to him. and he's been betrayed before and got over it so that clearly isn't it because we've seen that he reacts with forgiveness or punishement depending on the route, but the one route where someone thinks he betrayed them and he's liable to scream and cry
Anonymous No.718274707 >>718275000
>>718273903
What actual cuckolding happens in UTDR?
Anonymous No.718275000 >>718275351
>>718274707
Asgore, either Noelle or Kris depending on the way you play the game, the weather rouxls couple is somehow even more cucked despite it technically not being cuckoldry.
Anonymous No.718275027 >>718275094 >>718275523
>>718274552
> in fact this situation is the most emotionally torn up we ever see him.
I'd argue this is because what's happening in front of them flies in the face of their beliefs. It's not just about Martlet thinking she was betrayed, it's about her dying, her being killed by Flowey. A person who ostensibly did nothing wrong, being killed for no reason before their very eyes. A prime example of an injustice. *That* hurts Clover, but their friends all crowding around them as they give up their souls for them, saying how they don't want them to do this at first, how they'll miss them, literally nothing. No reaction on Clover's part, not a frown, not a tear, no change in body language, nothing. Their friends are still being hurt here, they're still losing someone they care about, and Clover's the same as they always are.
The difference is clear. Clover obviously holds their ideals as a higher priority than their own feelings, or the feelings of other people, at least to an extent. I'm *not* saying they don't care at all, in the same sense that Papyrus letting you kill him doesn't mean he doesn't care about how Sans feels, but in the same sense that Clover's serving an ideological purpose that necessitates that certain things be pushed aside in it's name.
Anonymous No.718275094
>>718275027
*soul, just one soul, typo on my part
Anonymous No.718275180 >>718275439 >>718275569 >>718275937 >>718276284
DRYanon2 here.
no status update.

green ideas, hit me.
Anonymous No.718275351 >>718275630
>>718275000
How is Asgore getting cucked? They’re already divorced and based on β€œinferno of jealousy” I don’t think he’ll be ok with what Sans and Toriel are doing.
Anonymous No.718275439 >>718275593 >>718275715 >>718285120
>>718275180
A bit of an edgy one here, but how about Clover's confrontation with Starlo, Martlet, and Ceroba (or just any of them individually) in the context of this post from the archive?
Anonymous No.718275519 >>718275786 >>718277084 >>718279206 >>718279319
Oldentale anon here (yeah, I'm still here) with a dev update.

Finally got started on programming for real, but I've hit a snag. I'm trying to draw sprites to the screen, but its coming out all garbled and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. I have a programmer who's supposed to help me with this sort of stuff, but he's really hard to get a hold of so I'm basically on my own. It doesn't help that the language I'm using doesn't have many tutorials or guides available, and the one I'm using is 20 years out of date.

I'll probably be able to sort this out, but no telling how much trouble its gonna be, nor how many more issues like this are gonna come up. Still hoping to meet that "something playable in September" goal though.
Anonymous No.718275523
>>718275027
because clovers reaction doesn't change no matter what. even after screaming and trying to cry in the neutral ending flowey still shows that clover is just making that "stupid expression". he doesn't express outwardly but we know for a fact from the neutral ending and other endings subtexts that there is emotional stuff going on underneath. clover doesn't scream and cry when he kills martlet even when he believes he needs to find a reason to kill her, you get all the way to 1 kill less of max love and he can still scream and cry in the neutral ending but he doesn't give any further emotional context against martlet other than that he clearly still has to find a reason to kill her. the real truth is that clover doesn't value their own life enough, and the only shared thread for when he screams and cries is when hes thought of as a betrayer. and again the emotional stuff in when he's giving up his soul is him handing the important items off to his friends. actions speak louder than words and he showed the emotional weight of what he's doing.
I'm not seeing it, he does clearly have distress over martlet being killed, but its the ONLY situation like this. someone that is important to him and is possibly another paragon of justice just died believing he stabber her in the back. thats very specific.
Anonymous No.718275569 >>718279749 >>718287485
>>718275180
Mooch drunkenly propositioning Starlo.
Anonymous No.718275593 >>718275689 >>718275715
>>718275439
its interestingly edgy but I have a lot of difficulty getting behind stories where characters act that out of character just to facilitate crawling in my skin.
Anonymous No.718275630 >>718275768
>>718275351
>They’re already divorced
That's how. Another man fucking his wife, whom he still loves, ex or not is cuckoldry in spirit.
Anonymous No.718275689 >>718275715 >>718276021 >>718285315
>>718275593
Aye, fair enough.
How about making it so that the main cast is still as they are in-game, but Flowey's just trying to manipulate Clover into killing them anyway?
If that still doesn't work for you, also fair enough.
Anonymous No.718275715 >>718275967 >>718276021
>>718275439
not that other guy, will do it.
>>718275593
wouldnt really say its too out of character for a soulless clover to kill if shown that the people who he killed himself for were simply using him the whole time.
>>718275689
(will also do this one)
Anonymous No.718275751 >>718275824 >>718276210 >>718278036
>yellow

So, like, piss?
Anonymous No.718275768 >>718275870
>>718275630
The game presents Soriel as a bad thing though, based on Kris and Susie’s reactions. It doesn’t seem like Toby cucking Asgore, it feels like the setup to Asgore’s character arc.
Anonymous No.718275786 >>718277084 >>718279206 >>718279319
>>718275519
To clarify. I can draw sprites. Its just getting a sprite sheet and drawing the individual sprites from that to the screen that I'm having serious trouble with. I think its something to do with the graphics data either being written to memory wrong or read from memory wrong.
Anonymous No.718275824
>>718275751
Yuh huh, you play as Sniper TF2 and throw jarate at enemies until they leave you alone to spare them.
Anonymous No.718275854
>>718268302
Zenith Mooch
Anonymous No.718275870 >>718275984
>>718275768
Soriel is happening whether or not its shown as a bad thing, and Asgore is still the eggs husband, so its cuckoldry until something changes in the story.
Anonymous No.718275937 >>718288758
>>718275180
Undyne getting jumped by the entire UTY cast when she tries to kill Clover.
Anonymous No.718275967 >>718276175
>>718275715
Hey, if you're willing to do some more edge of a different variety, do you think you could do one of Ceroba defeating Clover at the end of Pacifist and harvesting their soul, but Clover gets angry enough about it for their DT to surge, and they attack Ceroba to try and retake their soul? Bonus points if Clover resurrects after Starlo and Martlet have woken up and started reading Ceroba the riot act.
Anonymous No.718275984 >>718276036
>>718275870
So will it still be cuckoldry if Asgore moves on and gets with, idk, Alphys?
Anonymous No.718276021 >>718276262
>>718275715
I was talking about what was said about his friends
>>718275689
I can see that working a lot better. in this timeline clover doesn't know what a piece of shit flowey is, and without a soul well, maybe he will just do whats natural.
final fight against martlet going zenith in snowdin this time and maybe soulless clover could learn he was manipulated before the end?
Anonymous No.718276036 >>718276181
>>718275984
He still got cucked before he moved on.
Anonymous No.718276175 >>718276326
>>718275967
oh i already did that one lmao
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/717792749/#717804567
Anonymous No.718276181 >>718276281
>>718276036
So what the fuck is Asgore supposed to do then?
Anonymous No.718276210
>>718275751
possibly
Anonymous No.718276262 >>718276382 >>718276603
>>718276021
>
I could see that working, just depends on where you set the confrontation and who's around for it. I'd kinda want all of the main cast around, just for the maximum amount of pain, emotional and otherwise.
Also, so you know, the original post from the archive is very vaguely a Madness Combat reference, with "just do what comes natural" being written on a note left for the main character along with a few weapons.
Anonymous No.718276263
>>718268302
Someone needs to make a greentext for this scene with Cole and Martlet asap
Anonymous No.718276281 >>718276339
>>718276181
He can move on and life his life, but he's already been cucked. That's just how it is. Unless Soriel falls apart before he moves on its still him getting cucked by an ugly bastard skeleton.
Anonymous No.718276284 >>718289325
>>718275180
Mooch pickpocketing Martlet's needle and accidentally injecting herself.
Anonymous No.718276326 >>718276518
>>718276175
I know, I just want to see if I can get an edgier take on it, a much less happy ending for all involved.
I'm in a mood tonight, I dunno.
Anonymous No.718276339 >>718277210
>>718276281
Sans is getting sent to Undertale pretty soon so there’s that.
Anonymous No.718276382
>>718276262
Wow, I really fucked up that spoiler censor. Fuckin' hell.
Anonymous No.718276518
>>718276326
fair enough.
the OFF remake's got me in that mood as well.
Anonymous No.718276603 >>718276861
>>718276262
ahh I never engaged with that but im vaguely familiar so it kind of makes sense. I think the dynamic of martlet going zenith would be different since she already knew a clover that was a kind person, so kind he gave up their soul. she wouldnt understand on a technical level but I think shed intuit on an emotional level that clover doesn't "feel" warm like he used to. she may even express guilt herself "this is because I didn't try to stop you isn't it. I said I'd protect you and I let you die". maybe she'd pull out the syringe "I'm gonna make this right clover but first I have to stop you. I'm sorry".
Anonymous No.718276861 >>718277185 >>718277271
>>718276603
Yeah, I could see that working if Clover tracks her down after the three have already gone and delivered the soul to Asgore. Do you think Clover would grind some other monsters first before tracking down any of their friends, or would the DT Flowey gave them be enough to let them cut to the chase? I could see either being an interesting path worth taking.
Also, if it helps give you any ideas, the person who left the note for the main character in MC also happened to have resurrected them, and also killed them once their purpose was fulfilled.
The person who left the note was also literally Jesus Christ, so make of that what you will.
Anonymous No.718277084 >>718279206 >>718279319 >>718280041 >>718280251
>>718275519
>>718275786
Turns out I just typed in the wrong number when allocating memory for the sprites. I feel stupid. But hey, it works.

Now I just need to set up boundaries, collisions, and a screen change system.

Any advice on how to do that from other dev anons would be greatly appreciated.
Anonymous No.718277185 >>718277271 >>718277383
>>718276861
I'm not the person who said he'd write something. I'd love to but I'm trying to learn to draw birds right now.
but I think its really tough to say if clover would grind them out. if he encountered one and felt like from his interaction "flowey was right" then it may be "enter area, rinse and repeat justice is served. I will find them, I will make them pay". possibly he tracks the other two down first who end up fleeing out of guilt, not from having decieved him, thats just not in character but maybe the guilt of watching him die is setting in. alternatively he proceeds straight for martlet because he thought she was JUST with a capital J, but now with the deception hes on a warpath. maybe he spares some, maybe he doesn't get into encounters because having spared everything in the earlier areas the previous monsters dont engage with him any more except to chat so he goes by the "they aren't attacking, keep moving"
Anonymous No.718277210 >>718277969
>>718276339
Then he gets to cuck Asgore twice. Besides, I think the reverse is true. I think DR Sans came from Undertale, since he makes a lot of jokes that hinge on context from Undertale like cat tails being used as hot dogs or "nice to see you again" or Papyrus teasing.
Anonymous No.718277271 >>718277730
>>718277185
>>718276861
in fact going by how uty encounters stop happening I think clover going by whats "natural" would indeed spare everything else just because nothing is attacking him.
Anonymous No.718277383 >>718277517
>>718277185
Oh, my bad, one of your previous replies made it look like you were.
Anonymous No.718277517 >>718277731
>>718277383
nah sorry I'm just really interested in the idea if played that way.
Anonymous No.718277672
I still hope for a palworld mod that adds Undertale/Deltarune npc's as catchable pals, i want to enslave the Ketsukanes.
Anonymous No.718277730
>>718277271
alternatively, since that only happens if you exhaust the encounters with sparing, there could be areas clover didn't clear everything out in "have I met this monster before. doesn't matter" as his gun rings out the guilty verdict for him.
Anonymous No.718277731 >>718277821
>>718277517
S'all good man, don't worry about it.
I do think it's an interesting idea, ow the edge aside. I kinda wanna make a drawing or two based on it, at least of Clover waking up in New Home and finding the note from Flowey, like Hank waking up and finding the note from Jesus.
Anonymous No.718277821 >>718277958
>>718277731
edge is definitely a ton of fun, I just need the characters to act "somewhat" believable with a margin of error so I can properly immerse myself in it. I can definitely be forgiving of some wiggle room since I'm aware of the content we get in a fandom like this over time but still.
Anonymous No.718277958 >>718278312
>>718277821
So ironically, the version where all the characters are innocent and genuinely cared about Clover is the better one, even though that's way worse for everyone involved. Tragic.
Anonymous No.718277969 >>718278023
>>718277210
how'd UT Sans get a crudely drawn picture of the DR party that says "don't forget"
Anonymous No.718278023 >>718278101
>>718277969
We don't know if that is the DR party. All we know is its Sans with some smiling people that Frisk doesn't recognize.
Anonymous No.718278036
>>718275751
No, like Jaundice
Anonymous No.718278059
>>718274424
I think Chujin looks way too feminine in this, which is weird since the artist even went out of their way to include details like larger hands, muscles, etc.
Anonymous No.718278101 >>718278353
>>718278023
NTA, but I for one think it may be Gaster and the various Gaster Followers. Maybe they were all researchers together, and Sans was the only survivor of whatever accident got the rest of them.
Anonymous No.718278312 >>718278896
>>718277958
I think in that route it would pull the heart strings a lot harder. now you dont just feel bad for clover but instead of getting that "vindication" as he kills, it just gives you a new agony as reader. even if martlet goes zenith and manages to stop clover its not a "happy" ending. and if soulless clover kills martlet then learns the truth he's left soulless unable to feel the true pain of what he's done. possibly just a weight bearing down on him. what if martlet stopped him and stole the soul back, but its too late, clovers body is dead so even if it moves she cant put the soul back
Anonymous No.718278353
>>718278101
We know the goners all resemble existing monsters and we learn in deltarune that copies are black and white (unless someone colors them in), so that makes me think the goners are all copies.
Anonymous No.718278774 >>718279785 >>718279883 >>718281000
>Stranger walks up to you and says this
What would you describe this kind of person as?
Anonymous No.718278896 >>718279216
>>718278312
That's what I like about it, so many different flavors of suffering to choose from, it's great!
That said, I think I have an idea for exactly one potential happy ending, though I have no idea how such a course of events would occur naturally.
Those coffins that have the six human's corpses in them in UT, they seem special right? The red one's empty from the start, but the rest all empty themselves after the barrier is broken, with wrappings leading out of them. What if the coffins preserved the humans' corpses somehow, preventing them from rotting while their souls were absent?
If that's the case, maybe it could be possible to effectively put this soulless resurrected Clover in one of those coffins, keeping them in stasis until their soul can be returned once the barrier is broken. It's a massive longshot, but I could see it working.
Anonymous No.718278958 >>718280941
Hey, you fellas read the newest entry in Haishin yet?
https://www.reddit.com/r/UndertaleYellow/comments/1mrlzaw/haishin_part_7/
Anonymous No.718279114
why are they so cute
Anonymous No.718279206 >>718279554
>>718275519
>>718275786
>>718277084
Cool, I'm really interesting in seeing how your project starts to take shape
>Still hoping to meet that "something playable in September" goal though.
Do you mean playable as in being able to move a character with collision or playable as in having an overworld with interactions and a goal?
>Any advice on how to do that from other dev anons would be greatly appreciated.
Yeah, that's way out of my league. I could tell you how to do that in Godot but I have no idea how your programming language works
Anonymous No.718279216 >>718279447
>>718278896
maybe, perhaps when martlet "im going to make this right" she tries to stop clover but when clover learns the truth he loses determination, maybe it literally leaks out of him as he loses the reason he pushed forward. martlet unable to put the soul back, and unable to wake him up from this state lays him in the coffin. she doesn't know what to do, martlet wasn't a scientist but she wanted to make things right but perhaps the only right thing to do now would be to give him a proper burial and visit his tomb.
what if he didn't lose conciousness when he stopped moving after he gave up the fight at martlet. when all of them come back, the only thing that kept him sane while waiting for the barrier to break was martlet coming to his tomb and talking. he couldnt respond but he held onto that with all of the determination he had left. I do story writing for tabletop so I'm a fan of the drama but the writing in that isn't "point a to point b" like writing normal stories so while I can feel that its dramatic, I dont know if its sensible as a story
Anonymous No.718279221
Undertale Yellow is what happens when I piss on Toby Fox, yiff in hell
Anonymous No.718279238
>>718268302
Ceroba with big fluffy tail
Anonymous No.718279319
>>718275519
>>718275786
>>718277084
Great work. Keep going.
Anonymous No.718279345
>>718274424
Chujin doesn't look feminine enough here
Anonymous No.718279447 >>718279495 >>718279609 >>718279748 >>718280083
>>718279216
>
Damn, no need to 2718 the poor bastard, that's a bit far even for me. Don't look that up if you don't know what that is.
I was mostly thinking that Clover's friends would come to the realization that Clover's been manipulated somehow since they lost their soul, and decide to put them in one of those stasis coffins to keep them asleep until the barrier is broken, and maybe their soul can be returned to them. A happy ending, as long as Clover didn't kill anyone while they were missing their soul.
Anonymous No.718279495
>>718279447
Okay, what the hell is happening here, I didn't even put a spoiler censor on this one.
Anonymous No.718279554 >>718280239
>>718279206
>Do you mean playable as in being able to move a character with collision or playable as in having an overworld with interactions and a goal?
I mean as in can be called a game in the loosest definition of the word. It could be a poorly made buggy single fight or an Undertale themed walking sim, as long as it technically counts as a playable game.
>Yeah, that's way out of my league. I could tell you how to do that in Godot but I have no idea how your programming language works
I feel like even knowing the theory behind it would be helpful. As it stands I'm just kinda lost here because I've never done this before.
Anonymous No.718279609
>>718279447
Oh. Oh, I see what I did wrong now.
Damnit.
Anonymous No.718279748 >>718279873
>>718279447
I'm trying to think of it as since he didn't have his soul, just determination he was able to focus on martlets voice, marltet who never missed a day the entire time until the barrier was broken to keep from falling apart, so when his soul returns to him instead of his emotions coming back leading to him being a broken person he was staying awake with a purpose. "I wont give up, she didn't give up and so I wont give up". with him not having his soul during that time maybe its feasible that with something to focus on he didn't suffer the agony of being locked in place. to him it was just moments when he could hear her voice and moments when he couldnt. and because of her he was strong enough. I think this ending is still happy, he'd probably still be distant at times but with his soul back after the barrier is broken martlet sees that warmness in him again even if theres some sadness on top. "it was worth it". also I am very much going to look that up. I hope its as horrible as you have me thinking
Anonymous No.718279749 >>718281062
>>718275569
>Mooch drunkenly propositioning Starlo.
I read that as "Mooch drunkenly prostituting Starlo"
Anonymous No.718279785 >>718279883 >>718280383
>>718278774
Gives me serious vibes of this scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyN7rPbHybk&t=645 . Like Shu knows Chujin is gonna kill himself over never being recognized, and is giving him some recognition to prevent that.
Anonymous No.718279873 >>718280047 >>718280176
>>718279748
Ah, I see, a Doctor Stone situation I guess. Fair enough, that could work. That kind of determination almost feels romantic, but that doesn't work unless Clover's an adult here.
>also I am very much going to look that up.
DO NOT DO NOT LOOK IT UP DO NOT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD
Anonymous No.718279883 >>718280304
>>718278774
these comics are defintely some strange autism but
>>718279785
if thats whats implied I dont hate it. Chujin clearly did a lot of stuff so maybe he could have been saved from mad doctoring himself if someone just told him "really, genuinely thank you for all you do man.
Anonymous No.718279953 >>718280594 >>718280835 >>718281809 >>718282943
This game made me like Flowey's character more
Anonymous No.718280041 >>718280239 >>718280251 >>718280998
>>718277084

>boundaries
Boundaries of what kind, may I ask? Camera bounds? World bounds? Bounding boxes for collision? Speaking of which...

>collisions
I'd suggest looking into AABB collisions. The idea is to create a rectangle structure (x, y, width, height) to represent bounding boxes, then check if they overlap (if the sides of one rectangle are inside the other). If they do, this means you've got a collision on your hands. The dumbest, simplest way to resolve collisions is to not move the player on the next frame if there is one when you're trying to move in a direction.

>screen change system
Do you mean like rooms in UT, or different screens for the different game states (eg. overworld, battle, title, special cutscenes)?
If it's the former, pretty much every room can be updated in the same way. The only thing that will be different are what game objects are in each room, so you'll need to store an array of your objects and update each one. The contents of this array will change depending on which room you're in, since each room will have different objects.
For the latter, what I did for one of my projects was have a variable that holds the current screen to update. Then in my main update loop, depending on the variable's value, I'd defer to a screen specific update loop (eg. UpdateOverworld, UpdateBattle, etc.)

This is just a crash course on the basic ideas from someone else who's still learning, but put together some basic prototypes in the past.
I learned most of what I know from looking at Raylib examples and a little bit of Lazy Foo's SDL tutorials. Now these are obviously tailored towards different languages and libraries, but if you're comfortable translating, they could serve as example implementations of these concepts.
Hope it makes sense, I'll try to answer any questions you might have
Anonymous No.718280047 >>718280179
>>718279873
yeah I think the way I put it there does lean heavily towards romantic but plenty of people have just written the stories of either adult clover or clover and martlet being really close in age so thats fine. if anything I think its a story where there wasn't any romance until this all played out with martlet realizing how much she misses clover and with clover realizing how much martlet meant to him as these days go by. he couldnt feel love without his soul but he knew something important was there. maybe it hit him all at once when his soul was finally returned

also I already have it pulled up. suffering through existential horrors gives me inspiration for campaign writing.
Anonymous No.718280083 >>718280115 >>718280634 >>718280731
>>718279447
Is that what One was based on?
Anonymous No.718280109
>japanese mad scientist fox makes a killer robot literally named Axis to wipe out members of a race that he hates
Interesting
Anonymous No.718280115 >>718280534
>>718280083
>Is that what One was based on?
Well, One came out in 1988, so probably not.
Anonymous No.718280176 >>718280373
>>718279873
Romanticism doesn't have to be sexual, you know. The term can just refer to a generally romanticized or sentimental view of the world.
Anonymous No.718280179 >>718280381
>>718280047
Eh, a romantic angle works just fine, as long as everyone's of age.
>also I already have it pulled up. suffering through existential horrors gives me inspiration for campaign writing.
I tried to warn you. Hope you can stomach it better than I can.
Anonymous No.718280239 >>718281213
>>718279554
>I mean as in can be called a game in the loosest definition of the word. It could be a poorly made buggy single fight or an Undertale themed walking sim, as long as it technically counts as a playable game.
Learning and recreating Undertale's fight system while knowing zero things about game development took me months, granted I'm a procrastinator but I did that using Godot, I don't want to discourage you, but if you want to make a prototype maybe it should be for the best if you start with something simpler like the walking sim you suggested
as for the stuff you mentioned, I'd let this anon >>718280041 answer them since he seems more experience with working without an engine
Anonymous No.718280251 >>718281130
>>718277084
>>718280041
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention. I uploaded the source code of my "Kanako schizo Deltatraveler" fangame I shelved a while back. It uses Raylib and Golang, so I'm not sure how much it will help you. But it might serve as an example implementation of some of the stuff here. It's pretty shoddily written and organised though.

https://github.com/burgertrucking/gout
Anonymous No.718280304
>>718279883
>if thats whats implied I dont hate it
I don't think that's actually what Shufag was intending. That's just what it made me think of.
Anonymous No.718280373
>>718280176
I know, I'm not suggesting that Clover busts out of stasis and them and Martlet go straight to plowing right away, I'm just saying that kind of dynamic definitely feels like the kind of thing two lovers would have, as opposed to the parent-child dynamic most people tend to depict them as having. Again, no issues with them being in a romantic relationship if they're the same age, who cares at that point.
Anonymous No.718280381 >>718280546
>>718280179
yeah I see people either make them both teens or both adults, or clover is an adult by the time they are on the surface for some time. I'm not angling for some dance with the taboo. also to make sure I didn't misread things you were referring to an SCP right? I dont want to spend the time reading this and it not be related. I guess I'll know soon if I just read
Anonymous No.718280383 >>718281319
>>718279785
Problem with that is Shu is supposed to be an in-universe character. He shouldn't know that Chujin is going to kill himself with an experimental serum later on.
And Shu laughing to himself in that cloak is kind of weird, don't you think?
Anonymous No.718280534 >>718280616
>>718280115
Is it the scp article? Because that's what I get when I search it. Or is it a booru image number?
Anonymous No.718280546 >>718280616 >>718280902
>>718280381
Yes, it's that, that damned document. If you have any trouble with existentially scary concepts like that, or any paranoia regarding what happens after, I'd recommend you turn back while you can. You'll never unsee it if you don't.
Anonymous No.718280594
>>718279953
Really, Toby can't make any of his characters jerks unless they are/represent the player or are a husk without personality.
I love UTY's team for incorrectly writing an Asgore with balls, unlike his canon counterpart.
Anonymous No.718280616
>>718280534
See >>718280546
Anonymous No.718280634
>>718280083
One was based on the book Johnny Got His Gun, which was an anti-war novel about a guy who loses his senses after an injury in WWI. The song is more or less a loose adaptation of it. I have never read it myself.
Fun fact, One's music video uses footage from the film adaptation, and the band actually bought the copyrights to it in order to use it
Anonymous No.718280731
>>718280083
Honestly, getting One'd is way better than getting Dammerung'd.
Anonymous No.718280835 >>718280886 >>718280957 >>718281023 >>718281314 >>718281386 >>718281460
>>718279953
Why was he so confident with Clover but not with Frisk?
Anonymous No.718280886
>>718280835
Because Flowey genuinely thought that Frisk, in the context of a genocide route, was Chara, their best friend.
Anonymous No.718280902 >>718281035
>>718280546
oh good, those are all of my fears. you know when running a horror campaign in table top for people, the easiest way to get your players scared is for you to express the horror in a very genuine way. its easiest to do this when the horror you include is your own greatest fears. you can speak more passionately that way
Anonymous No.718280941 >>718281243
>>718278958
Hate to give this attention, but what is even the point of Ceroba’s parents showing up? We know in game Ceroba has to share a room with a bunch of autists. But, if these parents existed in the first place and had a good relationship with her like depicted here, then Ceroba I’m sure would have preferred to just go to her parents home if they existed after Kanako’s incident (she could literally lie about what happened to them). I feel like in UTY canon Ceroba’s parents are basically gone. Someone who’s so family oriented would have mentioned about her parents existing in present like Ceroba

Genuinely cannot tell if this comic is just gonna be Ceroba misery porn or a β€œChujin is Hitler” comic (added bonus if Starlo just doesn’t show up for the rest of this and doesn’t get any genuine consequences). Overall, just seems like another Ketsukane trauma slop comic. The shock content wore off
Anonymous No.718280957
>>718280835
because he didn't have the amount of determination to create his own save points like Frisk/Chara until the end of genocide
Anonymous No.718280998 >>718281261 >>718311435
>>718280041
>The dumbest, simplest way to resolve collisions is to not move the player on the next frame if there is one when you're trying to move in a direction.
Could I do this by dividing the overworld up into tiles and storing this as a 2d array, then marking some of these tiles as "no walk" tiles, which my walking code would check for before allowing the player to move?
Anonymous No.718281000 >>718281128
>>718278774
Ant sized autism
Anonymous No.718281023 >>718281382
>>718280835
Frisk took his time powers away.
Anonymous No.718281035 >>718281205
>>718280902
Think about what you're doing to yourself here anon, you don't need to read it. I don't even know how you'd factor it into a tabletop campaign, unless you wanna really hammer home the point of not letting your characters die. You've already shown you can come up with creative concepts for that, there's no need for this.
Just don't read it, it isn't gonna make you any happier.
Anonymous No.718281062
>>718279749
>Mooch forcing Starlo to become a prostitute
Hot
Anonymous No.718281112 >>718281296 >>718281367
>>718267360 (OP)
Ceroba deserves a happy life on the surface with a Nondescript Human Male.
Anonymous No.718281128 >>718281192
>>718281000
you are phone posting aren't you?
open the image on a new tab and delete the m at the end if it has one, you can also put the phone on landscape mode and then press the image filename
Anonymous No.718281130 >>718281549
>>718280251
>shelved
when did that happen?
Anonymous No.718281192
>>718281128
Caught me there. I read it and it’s still as autistic as ever. Thank you anon for showing us this
Anonymous No.718281205 >>718281510
>>718281035
because fates worse than death can always be used as fates an antagonist specifically inflicted on someone else, and the threat, possibly empty possibly not, that the same fate could be inflicted on the players or the people they love motivates them to fight against the dark. against the horrors and the screaming dark. at the beginning of time god died, but his only daughter survived and while she fights her hardest to keep us from seeing it, it can see us. someone needs to face it.
Anonymous No.718281213
>>718280239
I think I could do a simple bullet dodging game, with all the rpg elements removed. It doesn't sound too hard.
Anonymous No.718281243
>>718280941
>But, if these parents existed in the first place and had a good relationship with her like depicted here, then Ceroba I’m sure would have preferred to just go to her parents home if they existed after Kanako’s incident
It's possible that they might be dead by the time UTY takes place, and this is just their twilight years. Neither one of them looks particularly young, so that could be it. It's also possible that (in the context where Ceroba's parents actually exist and aren't just something for the player to think about) she didn't go back to them after the incident with Kanako because she couldn't bear to lie to her parents about what happened to her and her involvement with it. I mean, her parents would certainly know that Chujin is dead by UTY, so Ceroba could really only stay with them for a certain amount of time before they'd get suspicious about Kanako's absence, since she'd be the one who has to take care of her.
Anonymous No.718281261 >>718281607 >>718283740
>>718280998
Yeah, that's how old RPGs like Final Fantasy work. It's definitely different from UT's movement (which isn't grid based), but it's definitely a lot easier that way.
You'll still need to do AABB collision checks for the battle box segments, though. Unless you don't plan on doing the shmup thing, I don't remember
Anonymous No.718281296
>>718281112
Fuck yeah.
Anonymous No.718281314
>>718280835
This was Flowey's POV on genocide. Frisk is just on a whole fucking level of power that Flowey can't help but shit himself. Clover was evenly matched with him but Frisk just surpassed him a thousandfold.
Anonymous No.718281319 >>718297860
>>718280383
Maybe Shu got his hands on a time machine, or maybe he's become so powerful that even time jobs to him now.
Anonymous No.718281367 >>718281537 >>718282081
>>718281112
Nah, Ceroba should be forever single and watch as her closer friends get laid, she'd watch from a cuckchair as Starlo gets reverse gangbanged by girls and gays alike.
Anonymous No.718281382 >>718281651
>>718281023
Didn't Clover also take his time powers before killing him though?
Anonymous No.718281386
>>718280835
Because he was talking to Chara. Chara has a unique psychological grip on him that no one else has.
Anonymous No.718281460
>>718280835
Flowey repeated the loop of Clover falling thousands of times before the game starts and Clover never won in any of them
Anonymous No.718281510 >>718281823 >>718281837
>>718281205
Alright, to be perfectly straight, I think the best usage of 2718 outside of that document was in SCP-5000. Outside of that, I'm not sure there's a whole lot that could be done with the idea.
But hey, if you insist. Just don't say I didn't warn you.
Anonymous No.718281537
>>718281367
>she’d watch from a cuck chair as Starlo gets reverse gangbanged by girls and gays alike
Ceroba is so lucky…
Anonymous No.718281549
>>718281130
Like last month. I stopped working on it for a bit due to lack of time, and coming back to it later I decided I'd rather focus on the Deltarune crackshot theory fangame. Plus my code is so bad that I don't feel like fixing it up lmao
Anonymous No.718281607 >>718282061 >>718282117 >>718311435
>>718281261
So can I get a qrd on AABB collisions?
Anonymous No.718281651 >>718281927
>>718281382
Yeah but for most of the game he had the upper hand over Clover.
Anonymous No.718281809 >>718282204
>>718279953
I'm not a fan of the way they handled Flowey in Yellow. His writing is a bit too off, and a lot of the snarkiness and wittiness of the OG isn't there.
Flowey in Undertale is intentionally written to be a 2D bad guy. He's a parody character who's supposed to subvert our expectations of RPG tropes. And he needs to be knocked down a peg too; He's supposed to induce rage with us so that we feel satisfied when we finally take him down.
In Yellow, he's too powerful. In geno, it's like he's supposed to have the "last laugh" over Clover. In neutral, he's basically a god, who only "loses" because he got bored, not because he was genuinely threatened. Yellow just has the problem of taking Flowey too seriously, or making him too "nuanced".
Anonymous No.718281823 >>718282417
>>718281510
I have experienced it. it now exists as an ancient forbidden spell locked in the tombs of a far away planet. those who locked it away prayed the tome would never be found for it was beyond their power to destroy. the power to scatter forevermore. many varieties of hell have been divined discovered and even invented, but when the mage who first scrawled this spell was discovered, he became its only known victim much alike the brazen bull. Traveler if you ever find a book bound sickly green deep beneath the crust of a dead world, turn back and return nevermore.

feels overly dramatic, but at the table players would eat up a description like that given by what seems like an insane wizard
Anonymous No.718281837 >>718281943 >>718282043 >>718282106
>>718281510
I always thought SCP cognito hazards were stupid because they're always like "looking at this picture will make you bleed from your eye sockets and grow teeth in your asshole. Here's the picture btw". I get the point is to unnerve the reader by making him think he's been got by the picture, but it all feels pretty dumb. Plus they all feel pretty derivative after a while.

The only cognitohazards I ever liked were the world's funniest joke from Monty Python and Bites The Dust.
Anonymous No.718281927 >>718282225
>>718281651
So he just didn't realize he was fucked before Clover killed him.
Anonymous No.718281943 >>718282163
>>718281837
its pretty cheesy but I feel like when you get in that "spooky" headspace where you're reading scary stories and "the fear" sets in then illogical things like that can still play into "the fear". "the fear" itself I remember being described in an ancient /x/ copypasta about when you get immersed in horror but you get the idea I hope.
Anonymous No.718282043 >>718282403
>>718281837
cognito/memtic hazards can be fun if used right, problem is that, like everything with SCP, it takes them too seriously for an objectively silly concept.
see: abiotic factor's hate inducing table.
an otherwise normal table that makes you hate it when you look at it.
Anonymous No.718282061
>>718281607
its just basic box collisions, you do a simple math test to see if the hitting point is inside starting point + box extends
then you do that for every pixel of both colliders and if they are inside each other you trigger the collision
Anonymous No.718282081 >>718282161
>>718281367
>Ceroba should be forever single and watch as her closer friends get laid
She has oneitis for a pile of dust so I don’t think she’d really care about being single.
Anonymous No.718282106 >>718282403
>>718281837
2718 is the one that breaks that a bit. It's not "if you look at this image you die instantly", it's "knowing about this means it'll happen to you". It doesn't happen immediately, but it'll happen eventually. At least it doesn't apparently affect all universes, if the SCP about Tupac's ghost is anything to go by. If he can take on the Scarlet King, maybe he can defeat this for us.
Anonymous No.718282117
>>718281607
This three minute video provides a much better QRD than I could. I hope it suffices
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b_reDI7iPM
Anonymous No.718282161 >>718282669 >>718282847
>>718282081
Oh boy, is it that time already?
Anonymous No.718282163 >>718282285
>>718281943
I guess its just because I don't care much for horror. So I just tend to dislike bending of suspension of disbelief for the sake of it.
Anonymous No.718282204 >>718283268
>>718281809
You're the one with the problem of caring way too much about Toby's writing.
Is it too much to ask for antagonists who aren't defanged?
Anonymous No.718282223 >>718282337 >>718282418 >>718282445 >>718282587 >>718282975
>>718267360 (OP)
>constant UT, Uma, Nikke, BA and Fire Emblem threads on the catalog 24/7
Be honest with me, are /vg/ and /vmg/ that much big of shitholes that you have to migrate to /v/?
Anonymous No.718282225
>>718281927
No, he did, he was just so fed up with Clover's shit by that point that he just lost it.
Anonymous No.718282285
>>718282163
thats likely the case. not every bit of horror, but a vast amount of the library that you can call horror needs some suspension of disbelief. its setting premises often at the start ask you "I'm going to tell you a story but I need you to play along a little to enjoy it"
Anonymous No.718282337
>>718282223
first of all, this aint an undertale thread buddy. this is an undertale YELLOW thread. we are discussing a fangame and we only have these on a weekly basis
second, yes. /vg/ is that terrible.
/utg/ has cutters, suicide threateners, and a general assortment of resident schizos that make actual discussion nearly impossible.
Anonymous No.718282403 >>718282489
>>718282106
It still feels stupid to me. Its like those creepypastas that make it so you can't even take a shit in the creepypasta world without getting got by some kind of demon or ghost.
I think this guy sums up my feelings pretty well. >>718282043 it takes itself too seriously while also doing blatantly silly shit.
Anonymous No.718282417 >>718282641
>>718281823
Well, that's at least an interesting way of incorporating the idea.
Hope it was worth it.
Anonymous No.718282418
>>718282223
The jannies only allow a UTY thread 1 time per week, and /utg/ does not give a shit about Yellow or dislikes it. /utg/ is gay and doesn’t care to hear about Ceroba or Martlet especially

Also, the UTY fanbase is just small and the game is irrelevant now
Anonymous No.718282445
>>718282223
>are /vg/ and /vmg/ that much big of shitholes that you have to migrate to /v/?
Yes they are. You have no idea how much they are.
Anonymous No.718282450
>>718274424
im fucking both of them
Anonymous No.718282489
>>718282403
Eh, fair enough.
Anonymous No.718282587
>>718282223
>migrate
I don't use that shithole to begin with

As to why no one wants to use them, they have even worse moderation than /v/. Even /trash/ has better discussion than /vg/. Its not a board for general threads about video games, its a board for mentally ill social clubs. Nobody discusses video games there.
Anonymous No.718282641
>>718282417
yeah, I'm pretty used to the style of older scp horror, since it originally founded on old old /x/ which was my original stomping ground so it feels more like meeting an old friend, nightmares are just part of life. its not the oldest article but it still has some of that old life
Anonymous No.718282669 >>718282809
>>718282161
No I’m not starting an argument just stating what’s in the game. I’m not opposed to Ceroba getting with Starlo.
Anonymous No.718282809 >>718282935 >>718283038 >>718302695
>>718282669
>No I’m not starting an argument just stating what’s in the game.
Alright, good, carry on.
>I’m not opposed to Ceroba getting with Starlo.
Starlo?
Anonymous No.718282847 >>718283029
>>718282161
Just give it up already, Star. She'll never be interested in you.
Anonymous No.718282935 >>718283031
>>718282809
You know what, fair enough. I won't step on another anon's dream.
Anonymous No.718282943
>>718279953
she did worse things before UT/UTY events
Anonymous No.718282975 >>718283126
>>718282223
/vg/ sucks so much fucking dick you dont even know man
Anonymous No.718283029 >>718283109 >>718283184 >>718283203 >>718283306 >>718283824 >>718285392
>>718282847
Who is Starlo supposed to get with if Ceroba isn’t interested?
Anonymous No.718283031 >>718283124
>>718282935
Many thanks anon. May you find the waifur of your dreams too someday.
Anonymous No.718283038 >>718283089 >>718283103
>>718282809
>Self shipping is more popular with non casual UTY fans than some of the devs preferred ship
Kek
Anonymous No.718283089 >>718283189
>>718283038
>some of the devs preferred ship
which ones are them?
Anonymous No.718283103 >>718283189
>>718283038
>devs preferred ship
Wait, is Staroba actually the dev's ship of choice?
Damn. That's gotta hurt.
Anonymous No.718283109
>>718283029
Chujin’s dust or he gets gangbang’d while Ceroba sits in the chair and watches it all
Anonymous No.718283124 >>718283212
>>718283031
>May you find the waifur of your dreams
All of them?
Anonymous No.718283126
>>718282975
its funny, when we get new chapters of dr, when the threads get banished sooner than they should be, some anons get to experience that hellhole anew. its not bad at first because the wave of new people dilute the insanity, you get some genuine discussion while you see post after post of the "regulars" complaining that theres no chance to talk about the normal stuff and normally I get it, you dont want your place getting fucked up and all. the issue is when things slow down and you get to see what they get up to. that place is a fucking shithole and was a mistake to create.
Anonymous No.718283184
>>718283029
Moray.
Anonymous No.718283189 >>718283291 >>718283389
>>718283103
>>718283089
Ok I’m mostly joking I don’t know if the devs actually prefer it but yes I’m talking about Staroba. I assume some of the devs like it because Crestina randomly drops the β€œStarlo has a crush” fact on to a complete stranger
Anonymous No.718283203
>>718283029
Dyna
Anonymous No.718283212 >>718283307
>>718283124
You wanna get passed around a circle of anthros like a blunt?
Well, the heart wants what it wants, go nuts pal.
Anonymous No.718283268 >>718283338
>>718282204
I say this in relation to UTY's writing, not whatever Toby cooked up.
But besides that, Toby's version of Flowey just works. He's the guy you should be rooting to defeat.
The way the devs handled him in geno was too tilted towards him to make him appear badass. It's like they wanted you to agree with him, so now this mass murderer is cool actually!
Neutral is simply unsatisfying. Here he's obviously a bad guy final boss, but you never get to defeat him, so you're just left to be frustrated.
Anonymous No.718283291
>>718283189
Samefag but I’m surprised at how they had every opportunity to show it be canon in post pacifist cutscenes, but they didn’t. It’s probably a good thing it’s not canon
Anonymous No.718283306 >>718283487
>>718283029
I'll do you one better.
Anonymous No.718283307 >>718283487 >>718283491 >>718283875
>>718283212
Not really. I just have like 5 waifurs and I've had dreams about basically all of them.
Anonymous No.718283338 >>718283417
>>718283268
anon I WANT him to be cool, that's the issue
Anonymous No.718283389
>>718283189
>Starlo getting cucked only happened because one of the devs personally shipped them and it was put in as throwaway dialogue
This somehow makes sense but in the worst way possible
Anonymous No.718283417 >>718283754
>>718283338
I think the idea of him completely breaking down when faced with his own reflection in the form of you is great. Way cooler than him doing the generic evil bad guy monologue.
Anonymous No.718283487 >>718283881
>>718283306
Why does this make more sense then corn yaoi even though Chujin and Starlo have no screen time together (obviously)
>>718283307
Who are they?
Anonymous No.718283491 >>718284717
>>718283307
Then it's time to choose.
Anonymous No.718283740 >>718284156
>>718281261
Technically don't all games still have grid based movement? Its just that the grid is a lot smaller and more precise than the one in final fantasy.
Anonymous No.718283754 >>718284016 >>718284414
>>718283417
>him completely breaking down when faced with his own reflection in the form of you
This works so much better as an explanation of why Flowey in Yellow's geno doesn't work.
It's not necessarily that he's faced with his childhood friend (although it can certainly contribute to his breakdown). He's forced into confronting himself, a mass murderer, and he can't actually handle that because he's just a sociopathic kid.
In a way, it's a meta statement for how (you) have essentially become Flowey, and Flowey has become his own victim.
Anonymous No.718283824
>>718283029
Mooch
Anonymous No.718283875 >>718284717
>>718283307
Show us the waifurs, don't be shy.
Anonymous No.718283881 >>718283993
>>718283487
>Who are they?
Fang, Noelle, Roxanne Wolf, Mal0, Merveille Million.
Anonymous No.718283960 >>718284010 >>718285475 >>718299660 >>718327303
kanako lora, i will be busy all this weekend
Anonymous No.718283993 >>718284717
>>718283881
Well, unless you wanna go poly, you can only have one.
So, it's time to choose.
Anonymous No.718284010 >>718284307 >>718294652
>>718283960
you already have an AI general, get the fuck out of here you god damn nigger.
Anonymous No.718284016
>>718283754
>In a way, it's a meta statement for how (you) have essentially become Flowey, and Flowey has become his own victim.
Its not just in a way. That's the entire point of that ending sequence. Flowey has no emotions left except anger, fear, and the will to live. So when he sees (you) and realizes you're the same as him, he knows exactly what you're gonna do to him, because its what he would do. And that's why he's terrified.
Anonymous No.718284156
>>718283740
Yeah that's true. To my understanding, people generally use the term "grid based" to refer to the NES FF style small, finite grids
Anonymous No.718284307 >>718284380 >>718284459 >>718284790 >>718285475
>>718284010
worried about someone stealing your money? artist-kun
Anonymous No.718284327
crazy how DRY rocketed in popularity out of the nowhere
Anonymous No.718284380 >>718294652
>>718284307
not an artist, just think you're a nigger (you probably are given the quality of the stuff you're posting) and that you already have your own general.
get out.
Anonymous No.718284386 >>718290537
>>718270165
what?
Anonymous No.718284414 >>718285186
>>718283754
>sociopathic kid
>le player bad
yet again I start to think why I even liked that game in the first place
Anonymous No.718284429 >>718284726
>>718268306
>I wanna the Pink soul to be "passion", but I have no idea on any gimmick
Sex the enemies.

In all seriousness, a flirting mechanic.
Anonymous No.718284459 >>718284718
>>718284307
someone draw an image like this but not aislop.
need me some more genuine moochrot
Anonymous No.718284652
>>718274424
those paws look fucking delicious
Anonymous No.718284717 >>718284815
>>718283875
I'm sure you already know all the rest of them, so I'll just post Merveille.
>>718283993
>>718283491
Its so hard to choose though. I love all of them. Most of them are crazy and would probably ruin my life, like Fang (who is crazy and an all around bitch when she's having one of her episodes), Roxy doesn't have the added insanity of Fang, but is clearly clearly got a lot of issues, and unlike Fang is a 500LB steel robot that's prone to fits of violent rage, Noelle has a high likelyhood of dumping me for a woman, Mal0 is fine, but she's noncorporeal, and Merveille I like the least, but she's got her head on straight and would at least make a good sugar momma.

Maybe I can pick a few. Roxy will be the main girl and sugar momma since she's got rock star money, Noelle with watch from the chair, and Mal0 exists in my head so they don't have to know about her. It could still very easily blow up in my face though.
Anonymous No.718284718 >>718284757 >>718286118
>>718284459
Oh, poor soul, you don't know what AI is capable of.
Anonymous No.718284723
>>718267360 (OP)
I love Clover's mom
Anonymous No.718284726
>>718284429
>a flirting mechanic
Sounds fun but it just isn't the kind of story I envisioned. He can get a fluffy gf in the end though
I'm torn up between passion, inspiration and creativity.
Anonymous No.718284757
>>718284718
that still looks like trash.
Anonymous No.718284790
>>718284307
nta, but I just don't want aislop image spam
Anonymous No.718284815 >>718285081
>>718284717
But if you could only take one?
Anonymous No.718284862 >>718284925 >>718285047 >>718285873
Needs to be more 'roba paw art.
Anonymous No.718284925
>>718284862
syrupy pawjobs
Anonymous No.718285047 >>718285160
>>718284862
>>718269501
>>718274424
YES YES YES YES YES
Anonymous No.718285081 >>718285693
>>718284815
I don't know.
Anonymous No.718285120 >>718285176 >>718288467
>>718275439
the OOC version where they actually do trick clover, in character version where flowey tricks him up next.
>clover woke up with a jolt.
>the last thing he remembered was... after his death.
>his friends had laughed about it, all about how they tricked the kid.
>clover got up and appeared before him
>F: "you know how it happened, buddy!"
>F: "so, your choice now. since you dont have a soul, you wont be hunted"
>F: "do you try to live peacefully..."
>F: "or do you give them what they deserve?"
>F: "either way, im here for ya."
>clover reached out to the save point flowey left behind.
---
>the feisty five and ceroba were watching TV, just flicking through channels
>"BRE-" "next you add the-"
>Ed: "hey go back what was that?"
>"ITS BEEN REPORTED THAT A HUMAN IS IN NEW HOME. SURVIVORS ARE SAYING THAT THE HUMAN DOES NOT HAVE A SOUL!"
>C: "thats clover!"
>S: "shit. he's not dead?"
>everyone's silent for a moment
>Ace: "the only reason he'd be doing this if he knew what you two did after he died."
>starlo and ceroba very quickly run out of the house.
>ceroba is going to the steamworks, in hopes of stopping it before it gets too far.
>starlo, to evacuate the wild east and oasis.
---
>C: "c'mon damnit, where's axis"
>ceroba hears footsteps behind her, they come to a stop
>she only barely manages to turn around and deflect a shot from clover's gun, her staff gets snapped in half.
>C: "clover i swear its not what it seems l-"
>clover shoots again with a grazing shot, since ceroba wasted her turn.
>C: "look, i know it seems bad but-"
>another shot, this one landed
>clover was angry enough to kill ceroba in one hit
>F: "even after everything she's done. and she's still trying to lie to you!"
>F: "imagine if monsters ever got to the surface, what they'd do to humanity."
1/3
Anonymous No.718285160 >>718285435 >>718298756
>>718285047
Anonymous No.718285176 >>718285240 >>718288467
>>718285120
>clover's rampage continued into the dunes, he couldnt find axis unfortunately.
>not many were left thanks to starlo, but finding the cowboy himself was easy.
>S: "so... ceroba failed."
>S: "i'll admit it, we tricked you."
>S: "wasnt hard either. i almost feel bad about it..."
>S: "but, pardner, it was for the good of everyone down-"
>clover had heard enough, he shot starlo's hat off"
>S: "alright, we'll fight"
>wasnt much of a fight, starlo fumbled his bullets due to stress.
>F: "golly! he just admitted it. didnt even try to "
>F: "good thing im here to help you, ey buddy?"
---
>clover continued through the dunes until he found the spot where he fell with the raft, the wreckage was still there
>F: "well aint that a sour memory?"
>F: "but it looks like that was your only way up as well!
>clover stared at flowey
>F: "do i have a way up?"
>a ladder of vines starts weaving through the stones
>F: "sorry pal, thats the best i can do"
>clover climbs up...
---
>lower waterfall.
>F: "hey buddy you made it!"
>F: "the nice part about being soulless is that you dont have to worry about silly things like stamina."
>F: "but now that you're here lets get you saved up!"
>clover saved and began emptying out lower waterfall.
>it wasnt long before he was interrupted by an energy blast.
>A: "HUMAN. I HAVE SEEN THE NEWS."
>A: "I DID NOT THINK THAT WE EVEN HAD A WORKING TELEVISION DOWN THERE."
>A: "BUT YOU!"
>axis lets off another energy blast, clover dodges
>there were no more words as the two went to fight.
>since axis wasnt blocking, he was taking all of clover's shots.
>axis died, clover continued to lower snowdin.
>---
>F: "there's martlet buddy. you know what to do"
>clover snuck up behind martlet and let off a single shot.
>she never even knew that he was alive, she just died...
>clover turned to flowey
>* reload. tell me to get her attention
>F: "... huh? well, alright."
2/3
Anonymous No.718285186 >>718285868
>>718284414
I'll always shit on games where mass murder is the only way to proceed so it can go "wow you're so violent way to go killer" but Toby's game and even its tumblr fangames have never had that problem. You have to go out of your way to be a dick so "why were you compelled to be a dick" is a more interesting question
Anonymous No.718285240 >>718285293 >>718285315 >>718288467
>>718285176
>F: "there's martlet buddy. get her attention first, make sure she knows who's doing her in!"
>clover shot the roof of martlet's guard stand
>M: "huh- CLOVER?!"
>M: "clover, im sorry. really. b-but you know how it is! i had a job to do. i was just... doing it."
>clover took a step forward
>M: "i mean it! if it could've gone another way i would've done that in a heart beat."
>clover took a step forward
>M: "b-but look, you're alive again! things can be different now so why dont you just-"
>clover raised his gun
>M: "j-just drop the gun and we can-"
>clover let out a final ringing shot.
>he stood there in silence as flowey popped up
>F: "so, buddy. what next? dalv's left the ruins you know, you could-"
>clover points up a cliff
>F: "huh, the main path? well if you're so sure..."
>F: "but what about dalv? c'mon nobody would-"
>clover shoots flowey a glare
>F: "ugh alright fine! of all people you leave alive..."
>flowey made another vine ladder for clover
---
>he had emptied the underground
>not a single monster remained, even flowey had been cut down
>at some point it went beyond simple vengeance, and became killing purely because its what was imprinted on clover's mind without a soul.
>asgore's soul was taken
>now clover stood face to face with the human souls and their containers.
>...
>he shot them, one by one.
>it was the only conclusion, really.
>flowey had made someone worse than himself.
>a machine that could only kill, because all else had been replaced with that.
>clover shot the last soul, a myriad of multicolor fragments littered the floor
>he walked out of the underground, ready to move onto his next group of victims.
Anonymous No.718285293
>>718285240
honestly, brutal
Anonymous No.718285315 >>718289779
>>718285240
>>718275689
and the in character version where flowey was the one that tricked clover, abbreviated to parts that are the same as the OOC version
>F:"yep, thats EXACTLY how it went buddy."
>"so, your choice..."
---
>ceroba was in the steamworks, going over it a bit more thorougly
>she wanted to recover some things that chujin had made
>she heard footsteps behind her
>C: "... clover?"
>C: "clover! you're alive i cant-"
>flowey popped up
>F: "hah, she was about to pretend to care about you! c'mon buddy, lets move on"
---
>clover took the dunes by surprise
>he started with starlo in the middle of the wild east
>from there, everyone was in too much of a panic to really fight back.
---
>clover made it to snowdin
>he stood behind martlet
>M: "huh... clover! clover you're alive!!!"
>martlet ran to hug clover...
>and got dusted without even knowing how he had changed.
>* reset
>M: "huh... clover! clover you're alive!!!"
>clover shot martlet's hand
>M: "ow! that hurt. why did you..."
>clover raised his gun to martlet's head
>M: "clover? im not sure what happened but we can talk about it!"
>clover held his aim
>M: "look, if you're mad about us not stopping you i get it, really. if i could i'd go back in time and slap myself."
>M: "but you're here now! things can be-"
>clover shot martlet
>flowey popped up
>F: "gee golly! and you know what the best part is?"
>F: "they never actually betrayed you! i made it all up. and you blindly killed them because i told you too."
>...
>F: "nothing? c'mon i know we're not supposed to feel but you should at least pretend to be upset!"
>...
>clover simply pointed up a cliff.
Anonymous No.718285392 >>718285449
>>718283029
Martlet if the group sticks together
Anonymous No.718285435
>>718285160
Where MiniRoba?
Anonymous No.718285449
>>718285392
I am sorry starlo but I simply have beaten you to it
Anonymous No.718285475 >>718299660
>>718283960
>>718284307
genuinely surprised there's enough of Kanako to create a lora.
Anonymous No.718285693 >>718285787
>>718285081
Well, it looks like you won't be getting the waifur of your dreams.
No regrets, Mr.Anon.
Anonymous No.718285787
>>718285693
probably for the best
Anonymous No.718285868 >>718285948
>>718285186
I'd rather just not make that question in the first place.
Anonymous No.718285873 >>718289826
>>718284862
How do goat mom's feet compare?
Anonymous No.718285948 >>718286843
>>718285868
if you don't murder everyone in it, the game never asks
Anonymous No.718286118 >>718286457 >>718286695
>>718284718
>Star appendage is mixing in with her face
Very believable
Anonymous No.718286162
just finished pacifist last night and neutral today. gonna do geno tomorrow. pretty good game
Anonymous No.718286457 >>718286715
>>718286118
that's because that's an old gen
Anonymous No.718286695
>>718286118
they're just fusing during sex. seems pretty normal to me
Anonymous No.718286715
>>718286457
Great cope
Anonymous No.718286843 >>718286873
>>718285948
in most games you beat everything in your path and you still get a good ending
even deltarune works like that
Anonymous No.718286873 >>718287123
>>718286843
why are you compelled to be a dick
Anonymous No.718287123 >>718287927
>>718286873
because I want full access to everything the game has to offer, like in any game
Anonymous No.718287485
>>718275569
>M: "heeeeeey starloooh!"
>S: "mooch how much did you drink?"
>M: "enough :)"
>S: "damnit mooch what do you want"
>M: "to doooooo"
>S: "to what"
>M: "to, ya know, doooooooo it"
>S: "... what?"
>M: "yaaaa know. dooo the doooo~"
>S: "mooch! just say what you want you know im not good at this cryptic nonsense."
>M: "SEX!"
>mooch yelled it loud enough for some of the oasis to hear
>S: "alright c'mon you're taking a nap"
>M: "hehe yeah aaa 'nap'!"
>starlo simply threw her into the house and closed the door
>M: "alight gang, looks like we'll have to do an adventure without her today."
>M: (at least we wont need to return people's money later)
Anonymous No.718287524 >>718287589
half of this thread is greentext fanfiction that would be considered too gay for deviantart and that concerns me.
Anonymous No.718287589 >>718288340
>>718287524
I think you're just saying that to get a response all things considered
Anonymous No.718287927 >>718288243 >>718288347
>>718287123
I don't like to use the term media literacy, but I think this is one of the rare cases in which I can actually someone is lacking it and be telling the truth. You might genuinely be retarded if you played the game and couldn't figure out that it was specifically calling out that kind of playstyle.
Anonymous No.718288243 >>718288352 >>718288484
>>718287927
Anon, I've already said I DON'T FUCKING CARE about what the game has to say or whatever.
I just want to dodge bullets, interact with funny scrimblos and have nothing in the way of that.
Anonymous No.718288340 >>718288450
>>718287589
I just think huge walls of greentext about what characters 'might' say in a hypothetical scenario is extremely gay.
Anonymous No.718288347 >>718288419
>>718287927
also
>it was specifically calling out that kind of playstyle
for what reason would anyone feel that kind of playstyle needed to be called out in the first place?
Anonymous No.718288352 >>718288851
>>718288243
when does the game actually stop you from doing that? you can interact with the funny scrimblos in this game and they give you different interactions in different routes. whats the issue
Anonymous No.718288419 >>718288851
>>718288347
To make you think about the strange things you do while playing video games. To make you consider if wringing every last ounce of content out of a game long after the enjoyment is really worth it.
Anonymous No.718288450
>>718288340
I think you are extremely gay, and if you think about considering how characters would act in different situations is "too gay for deviant art" then you aren't familiar with the kind of hellscape deviant art can be. This thread is on the mild end of what a fanbase can get up to.
Anonymous No.718288467
>>718285120
>>718285176
>>718285240
Nice. The perfect amount of edge. No reason, no mercy, only madness, true to the original post.
You've done an excellent job here anon, thank you.
Anonymous No.718288484 >>718288851
>>718288243
If you just want to have fun with the funny scrimblos, why are you playing the grindy route with no funny interactions?
Anonymous No.718288502 >>718309052
>>718268302
would saying "zenith" be wrong or is it alright?
Anonymous No.718288758 >>718288945
>>718275937
>due to an unfortunate series of events clover has to go through waterfall
>ends up encountering undyne
>U: "GRAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH"
>before she can land a hit a bullet shoots her spear
>S: "hold it right there pard'ner"
>a whole bunch of monsters swarm around undyne and clover
>S: "we're jumping you"
>undyne stands silently for a moment
>U: "do... do you all really think you can fight me? none of you are soldiers."
>there's some murmuring in the crowd
>?1: "you can only get a few of us before we overwhelm you!"
>some cheering roars up before some whispers cut it off
>?1: "most of us..."
>some murmurs return
>?1: "a-all of us..."
>the last murmurs become dejected and peter out
>?2: "but asgore would be upset if he found out that you had to fight all of us to get the soul!"
>cheering returns
>U: "uh huh. and who's going to fight me?
>everybody stood in silence
>U: "COME ON WHO'S FIRST???"
>...
>?3: "asgore would also be sad if he found out that a good chunk of the population was sad about a human friend being killed"
>U: "alright fine thats fair... BUT DONT THINK THIS MEANS I TRUST YOU, BRAT! STAY IN THAT DAMN DESERT WITH YOUR FRIENDS."
Anonymous No.718288851 >>718289015
>>718288352
>when does the game actually stop you from doing that?
Because the meta shit heavily sidelines the stuff I care about.
I'd just rather have a normal villain route without the "I bet someone is watching right now" shit, plus let me not one hit the normal bosses.
>>718288419
>wringing every last ounce of content out of a game long after the enjoyment
Why assume I'm not enjoying it? The normal game is super short and lacks real any challenges.
>>718288484
Read my post carefully, playing villain against the funny scrimblos is also included on what I want.
Anonymous No.718288857 >>718289065 >>718289740
is DRY1 anon still interested in the game or did he move on?
Anonymous No.718288945 >>718289060
>>718288758
Do you seriously think Undyne could handle the entire UTY cast at once? Not in a row, but like all at once with all their bullet patterns at once.
Anonymous No.718289015 >>718289516
>>718288851
>Why assume I'm not enjoying it? The normal game is super short and lacks real any challenges.
>Read my post carefully, playing villain against the funny scrimblos is also included on what I want.
Then what's your complaint? You get to play the villain and the game plays along.
Anonymous No.718289060 >>718289104
>>718288945
probably not, but if you're high on adrenaline in the middle of combat you're not thinking in terms of "how many people would it take to swarm me?"
and a bluff, intentional or not, would be effective given her reputation.
Anonymous No.718289065
>>718288857
As far as I know he's still working on it. He's been posting updates semi regularly.
Anonymous No.718289104 >>718289167
>>718289060
You'd be amazed how much courage being in an angry mob gives people.
Anonymous No.718289167 >>718289260 >>718289893
>>718289104
ok yeah, but, these are common variety monsters we are talking about. weak and pitiful to a fault.
anyways i'll give you a variant once im done with the mooch one.
Anonymous No.718289260 >>718289893
>>718289167
Keep in mind that also includes all the bosses from UTY and the robots.
Anonymous No.718289325
>>718276284
>M: (hey, martlet's a royal guard right? she's bound to have a bunch of goodies!)
>mooch sneaks over to martlet
>she tries grabbing something from her pocket... and gets pricked with something!
>mooch quickly withdraws her hand, there's a bit of... something leaking from her finger.
>and suddenly, within an instant, mooch grew a grand total of....
>one inch because she only got a few drops of it. and her fur became a shade darker
>before she could reach back to get more of it martlet had already reacted to mooch's shocked noise
>she didnt notice that mooch was any different, only that she had seemingly hurt herself
exactly what you wanted, right?
Anonymous No.718289516 >>718289614
>>718289015
>Then what's your complaint?
I want to play a "face value" genocide route that doesn't break the fourth wall to talk about completionism or whatever. Like how UTY did it, for example.
Anonymous No.718289614 >>718290954
>>718289516
Then play UTY. Undertale is a game about being a video game. This is like complaining about clowns at a circus.
Anonymous No.718289740 >>718324367 >>718324626
>>718288857
I'm still working on it, I've just been very busy and can only work on it on weekends even if this weekend I've been playing metroid x fusion instead of working
but I did get a few new sprites done for the new chapter 1 miniboss
Anonymous No.718289779
>>718285315
Man. Harsh. I was kinda hoping for an alternate timeline where they manage to get a happy ending, but I guess I did ask for edge.
Anonymous No.718289826
>>718285873
Toriel doesn't wear boots.
Ceroba wins.
Anonymous No.718289893
>>718289167
>>718289260
>S: "we're jumping you"
>undyne stands silently for a moment
>U: "do... do you all really think you can fight me? none of you are soldiers."
>there's some murmuring in the crowd
>?1: "you can only get a few of us before we overwhelm you!"
>some cheering roars up
>U: "ah. BRING IT ON THEN!!!"
>the swarm goes to fight undyne
>she's almost immediately overwhelmed
>when its all said and done, undyne's armor has been compressed to the point where she looks like that one baki image where the guy has been reduced to the head and a little bandaging below it.

anyways if anyone has anymore, leave them here and i'll do em when i wake up.
Anonymous No.718290537
>>718284386
sex
Anonymous No.718290839
where is the roba microbikini
Anonymous No.718290954 >>718291304 >>718306029
>>718289614
Undertale (and now Deltarune) never properly advertised what kind of game it was supposed to be, directly or indirectly. "Friendly RPG where nobody has to die" doesn't say enough, and many people got in because they thought the skeletons were funny.
I feel like I was tricked into playing it by promises that didn't get quite fulfilled. Not my case, but there are a few people to this day who played the demo and got frustrated with the full game because it mostly ignored the deja-vu gimmick from the demo.
Anonymous No.718291304 >>718291396
>>718290954
It does have a free demo that plainly lays out what the game's about.
Anonymous No.718291396 >>718291496 >>718291868
>>718291304
>plainly lays out
at what point?
Anonymous No.718291496 >>718291610
>>718291396
When it makes the save load mechanics, bullet box mechanics, yellow names, and skip buttons exist in universe and part of the plot. It even shows you what the genocide route is like.
Anonymous No.718291610 >>718291868 >>718292289
>>718291496
>save load mechanics, bullet box mechanics, yellow names, and skip buttons
That's nowhere near "I bet someone is watching right now", plenty of games have included things like you mentioned without going that far.
And all the genocide route shows there is you and Flowey being jerks.
Anonymous No.718291868 >>718292153
>>718291396
honestly it lays it out with the tagline "the friendly rpg where no one has to die" and It doesn't really need anything else
>>718291610
why would the demo spoil a one off line about people watching runs on youtube that happens near the end of the game. there's no real sense to this, why are we still arguing about the original games genocide run in here. Toby has been obsessed with the idea of player agency vs the world since even the halloween hack so its got some shit that plays into that I really dont get the issue. the demo promised a game that reacted differently to your choices and we got that extensively and then we got a fan game that has a bird.
Anonymous No.718292153 >>718292331 >>718292438
>>718291868
The tagline only hints that it won't be a traditional video game story, that's it. An honest tagline would be "the RPG that will make you question the very nature of RPGs".
And you're not getting what I'm trying to say by quoting that line. I just wish the game never broke the fourth wall besides jokes and spooks, I just want a quirky story about being the hero or the villain to a bunch of weirdos.
Anonymous No.718292289 >>718292480
>>718291610
>plenty of games have included things like you mentioned without going that far.
In 2013? Which ones? The only game I can think of at the time which did similar things was The Stanley Parable and it got even more meta than Undertale.
Anonymous No.718292331 >>718292480
>>718292153
>I just want a quirky story about being the hero or the villain to a bunch of weirdos.
Be the change you want to see, anon. Make your ideal game a reality.
Anonymous No.718292420 >>718292534 >>718292720 >>718294194 >>718319304
Women I love: Chara, Toriel


Women I don't love: Everyone else
Anonymous No.718292438 >>718292495
>>718292153
>the RPG that will make you question the very nature of RPGs
thats not a good tageline, takes too long to say and it kinda spoils all of the punches that undertale throws at you.
Anonymous No.718292480 >>718292670 >>718292763
>>718292289
I honestly don't remember names, but I recall playing an old game (possibly more than one) that had a gag like a character saying "press X to see the status bar! ...what is a status bar?"
>>718292331
I want but right now I'm too depressed to do anything
Anonymous No.718292495
>>718292438
Gonna have to agree with this. The meta stuff works best when you aren't expecting it.
Anonymous No.718292534
>>718292420
>Woman I fap to: Chara, Toriel


>Woman I don't fap to: Everyone else
Anonymous No.718292670 >>718292831
>>718292480
>I want but right now I'm too depressed to do anything
All the more reason to start. Then you'll finally have a reason to get out of bed in the morning.
>that had a gag like a character saying "press X to see the status bar! ...what is a status bar?"
But that's just a single one off gag character. Undertale had every gag character acknowledging the game itself in one way or another and even the serious characters acknowledged them. You don't remember Flowey telling you about EXP and LOVE, and then later fucking with you depending on how you used your saves?
Anonymous No.718292720
>>718292420
Asriel...
Anonymous No.718292763 >>718292978
>>718292480
>I want but right now I'm too depressed to do anything
anon we have like five different fangame devanons that belong to these threads that went from zero to "im making something!"
Anonymous No.718292831 >>718292931
>>718292670
It took me a while to notice that because my attention was at other things. First time in Snowdin I'm not paying attention to how Sans is walking on eggshells around someone he knows is a time traveler, I'm paying attention to Papyrus's antics.
Anonymous No.718292931 >>718293046
>>718292831
That's more on you for not paying attention. All the stuff in Undertale is telegraphed pretty hard if you're paying attention. Even stuff like the true lab is telegraphed by it being disguised as a bathroom, despite monster food making it so the people who eat it never have to shit, and it being the only "bathroom" in the game.
Anonymous No.718292978
>>718292763
I have a job and I'm also stuck at the worst moment of my college course for the next 4 months. I'm drained and it will take a while for me to recover even after I'm done.
Anonymous No.718293046 >>718293273 >>718293429
>>718292931
I have no clue how can someone enjoy a game by seeking the "telegraphed" shit. I want to get lost in the fictional world, not be constantly seeking cryptic clues.
Anonymous No.718293273 >>718293650
>>718293046
its all more for you to notice on your second time through to enrich the experience.
>huh, a lot of things sans says is kinda odd...
>hey wait a minute, is that the only "bathroom" in the game?
Anonymous No.718293429 >>718293590 >>718293654
>>718293046
Its not "seeking cryptic clues" its just paying attention. Its the kinda stuff you notice when you're paying attention and thinking about the stuff you see. Like Sans looking right at the camera when tells jokes, followed by a rimshot, that only we can hear, and then Papyrus doing a joke in response, but not looking at the camera or making a rim shot. Its not like I was looking for it, I just saw it and thought "wait, what?". To give a more recent example, there's Ralsei being able to recognize all the character themes if you play them on piano, while Susie can't. I heard that and my first thought was "wait, you can hear that?" followed by "Only you can hear that?"
Anonymous No.718293590 >>718293787
>>718293429
susie actually comments on roulx's theme, but thats probably just roulx's own meta knowledge causing him to play his theme in the game world.
yes he has meta knowledge, he comments on his own cut off item description and is capable of fucking with the battle system.
Anonymous No.718293650
>>718293273
Its possible to catch that sort of stuff in your first playthrough. I watched a lets player who distrusted Sans for the whole game because the rimshot gag tipped him off to Sans's meta knowledge, which only made him notice all the other stuff Sans did sooner.
Anonymous No.718293654 >>718294087
>>718293429
I'm paying attention to the jokes, not trying to piece those clues no matter how hard you try to tell that isn't the case.
And you know why I get so pissed off? It's because people parroting this shit only leads to this shit proliferating more and more. I just hate I was born right into this shitty zeitgeist.
Anonymous No.718293704 >>718293895 >>718293973 >>718294225
Gonna repost a question I asked in /vrpg/ since I'd like to get some more feedback on a fangame I'm making:

For that DR crackshot theory fangame I pitched a few weeks ago, how important would you say maintaining the original game's cast of darkners is? The current plan is to have the dark worlds be roughly 70% original (based on old fan speculation), with the remaining 30% being alternative reinterpretations of canon. This means that besides important recurring darkners like Ralsei, Lancer, and Rouxls, most of the cast won't be returning, and the ones that do may be quite different.

I ask this because these threads convinced me to keep the main lightner characters the same as the original game when I originally planned not to. Wondering how important this is to people for the darkners, particularly those after chapter 1.
Anonymous No.718293787
>>718293590
I thought she only recognized it because Ralsei hummed along to it a few times.

Anyways I find it funny that Rouxls is sort of an inversion of Sans. He's a gag character with meta knowledge and hax powers, but instead of acting dumb but secretly being super smart and super powerful, he acts dumb and is weak as shit because he's too stupid to properly leverage his powers.
Anonymous No.718293895 >>718297286
>>718293704
I think the original cast should be the foundation to build the theory characters. As in, the Spade Queen is heavily based on Queen or scrapped Queen concepts and so on.
Anonymous No.718293973 >>718297286
>>718293704
personally i'd say the orjiginal cast should be "remixed" with schizo theories in mind for the new cast.
Anonymous No.718294087 >>718294226
>>718293654
Do you just turn your brain off when you play video games? Its not like this is some esoteric secret hunt. Its just small details here and there which catch the eye and clue the player in to the larger story. Its a classic writing technique. It's not even a "current zeitgeist" its just writing.

You'd see stuff like this practically everywhere if you just kept your eyes open. Not just in Undertale but in practically everything. I can name all sorts of fun little details I can spot in movies or tv shows.
Anonymous No.718294194
>>718292420
dogshit taste
Anonymous No.718294225 >>718297286
>>718293704
I think chapter 1 should be mostly the same apart from some minor changes here and there. Chapter 2 should be more of an even mix of old and new content. And chapter 3 is where you go off the deep end with fan content. You can also rearrange stuff. Like having a different lightner show up in chapter 2 and then Berdly shows up in 4 instead (and he's Robin Hood Berdly instead of Berdgita).
Anonymous No.718294226 >>718294372
>>718294087
I'm just going for the ride, like watching a sitcom on a lazy afternoon.
Anonymous No.718294372
>>718294226
I usually pay attention to sticoms like this too. I catch a lot of jokes that otherwise I might miss that way.
Anonymous No.718294652
>>718284010
>>718284380
autist is also retarded
many such cases
Anonymous No.718296290 >>718296462
>>718273839
I don't mind slop as much as most people (as long as you try a handful of times to get something decent, tweaking the prompt to iron out problems and maybe edit the image manually after for easily fixable mistakes) but the fake pixel art might be worse than the mixels on Undertale's soul
It's pretty hard to unfuck; you can resize it down by a power of 2 and then return it to its original size with nearest-neighbor scaling like this (reduced to 128x128) and it partially fixes the mixels, but this won't fix the awful color palette. I've tried reducing the palette size by having Aseprite manually generate one with limited colors and then indexing the image to that palette, but I haven't gotten it to look proper
Anonymous No.718296462 >>718296538
>>718273839
>>718296290
you already have a thread
>>718255008
nobody wants you here.
Anonymous No.718296538 >>718296626
>>718296462
I have no intention of posting slop other than my one attempt at sprucing up that anon's post, I just think if someone is going to do it they should put a little effort into making it not as bad as the pure diarrhea that floods the thread you linked
Anonymous No.718296626 >>718296692
>>718296538
all AI slop looks like pure diarrhea to me no matter how much its "fixed"
it still sticks out from a mile away.
Anonymous No.718296692 >>718315158
>>718296626
It's got sticking points that make it clear exactly what it is, yeah
I do think there's a difference between just posting the first result you get without even looking at it and doing some simple editing to make it a bit better
I'll drop the conversation now because I don't want to derail things, as I said I personally don't post slop here
Anonymous No.718297286
>>718293895
That's the intent. Current plans for chapter 1 are pretty close to the original, but 2 and 3 are definitely like this.
Funny you bring up a Spade Queen based on scrapped Queen concepts, that's something I'd like to do

>>718293973
Also going for this. It's most apparent in my plans for chapter 3, which is primarily original content building off the Sweepstakes teasers, with some canon and fan predictions mixed in

>>718294225
I remember hearing something very similar in the other thread, maybe that was you. This is very close to what I have in mind, down to how you've laid out the chapters and rearranging stuff from canon. And don't worry, you'll be seeing Robin Hood Berdly
Anonymous No.718297860
>>718281319
"Shu" is actually the author who created the OC, isekai'd into the Undertale setting as the 4chan version of his character. He has the meta knowledge of the games but the power level of a jobber, and all the techniques he gave his OC backfire in comedic fashion when he tries to use them in a fight.
Anonymous No.718298756 >>718299563 >>718307663
>>718285160
I still can't believe the guy who made the original version of this completely lost it over that fuckin' Haishin comic. It just sent him completely off the deep end for no reason.
Anonymous No.718299563 >>718300080 >>718307663
>>718298756
his reaction was so overblown that even the other redditors told him to seek profesional help
Anonymous No.718299660
>>718283960
>>718285475
If you're able to get her stupid fucking brown-tipped tail correct, let me know
Anonymous No.718300080
>>718299563
That is really funny though. Like, not liking that comic is perfectly understandable, it's an upsetting topic and all, but man.
I'm just glad that poly Ceroba/Starlo/Chujin comic is dead, that could've been so much worse.
Anonymous No.718301801 >>718302203
>>718267360 (OP)
So right now, the orange games and the blue ones are the only that have released demos, right?
Anonymous No.718302203 >>718302292
>>718301801
Deltarune Yellow has a demo out.
Anonymous No.718302292
>>718302203
I meant the "prequel" fangames, I know about DRY1
Anonymous No.718302695 >>718303093
>>718282809
Why is Anon naked?
Anonymous No.718303093 >>718303331
>>718302695
Don't worry, his physique is nondescript enough for him to not wear clothing.
Anonymous No.718303331 >>718303418
>>718303093
>Anon was actually a monster this whole time
Anonymous No.718303418
>>718303331
Alternative idea, Anon wasn't drawn far enough below the waist for his crotch to be rendered, and therefore he doesn't need clothing due to occlusion culling.
Anonymous No.718305143 >>718306176 >>718307506 >>718307867
Anonymous No.718306029
>>718290954
ACfag, kindly go the fuck away and shit up another thread.
Anonymous No.718306176
>>718305143
Martlet wears it well.
Anonymous No.718306724
>>718267360 (OP)
Fine I'll play it get off my back
Anonymous No.718307238 >>718307553
Martlet seems like a real birdbrain.
Anonymous No.718307506
>>718305143
I would not be able to resist that Martlet's advances.
Anonymous No.718307553
>>718307238
Anonymous No.718307663 >>718308000 >>718308016
>>718299563
>>718298756
can someone mindfuck the original cuck comic author like this
Anonymous No.718307867
>>718305143
fuck, go back
Anonymous No.718308000 >>718308597
>>718307663
Nope. He is simply too powerful, you cannot hope to overcome his psychic abilities.
Anonymous No.718308004 >>718325398 >>718325643 >>718325824 >>718326781
>i missed the UTY thread
FUCK
been working on a series of chatbots on chub for yellow seeing as all the other ones are shit and ive been wanting to explore the characters in a slice of life setting
im planning to make some loras in the future for characters that don't have them. any particular ones you lads want to see?
Anonymous No.718308016 >>718308597
>>718307663
No, unless the original author is completly detached from reality I doubt that's possible
I mean, just look at how the other guy reacted, this is a literal mental breakdown over a cuck comic some random redditor made
https://www.reddit.com/r/UndertaleYellow/comments/1mmmj8b/im_taking_a_break
Anonymous No.718308597 >>718308805
>>718308000
>Dickriding another Ketsukane trauma another comic
Are you the creator?

>>718308016
>completly detached from reality
They already are, and I saw that other guy’s reaction
Anonymous No.718308805
>>718308597
>Are you the creator?
No, I just think the comic and people's reactions to it are really funny, especially the guy who had a full blown meltdown over it and started making a weird comic about polyamory specifically in retaliation against it. It's like a beautiful sequence of dominoes, that somehow leads into a train wreck.
Anonymous No.718308920 >>718308974 >>718309142
I think it's safe to say this was a very successful thread, Like wow, it's almost at the post limit already.
At this rate another thread might need to be made cause it was that quick.
Anonymous No.718308974 >>718309142
>>718308920
Hell yeah, weekend's not out yet, let's do some overtime.
Drawanon No.718309052
>>718288502
No that's alright, since Zenith is still Martlet lol.
Just a different flavour of Martlet.
Anonymous No.718309142
>>718308974
>>718308920
Yeah I second this was thread was incredibly successful.
I haven't seen a UTY thread almost reach the limit this quickly since the early days, when there was a lot of attention on it.
Anonymous No.718310785
Anonymous No.718311435 >>718322092
>>718280998
>>718281607
You know what, now that I think of it, you could definitely do the "2d grid" thing for checking bullet collisions. It'll play completely differently (think Chip's Challenge or Mega Man Battle Network), but it is something to consider. Sounds pretty fun and novel, actually.
Also worth mentioning you can do an overworld interact routine (eg. reading signs, talking to NPCs) by checking if there's an actor on the tile directly in front of the player, then pulling up the textbox with the corresponding message if there is. Again, that's how interacting with NPCs in classic FF or early gen PokΓ©mon worked
Anonymous No.718311810 >>718312079 >>718312151
>>718267360 (OP)
I asked this in a previous thread but is there a list of various canceled fangames or ideas?
Or on going ones?
Anonymous No.718312079 >>718312379
>>718311810
There is this list, I think it wasn't updated in a year but it's the closest you'll get, it only includes fangames based on soul traits, obviously it doesn't take into acount the games from here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1otGkUjA9HQbMD3dAO2_vNNpYyrROBDcY-nK-zUqQe9U/edit?gid=2075139505#gid=2075139505
Anonymous No.718312142 >>718312997
too much reddit in these threads
Anonymous No.718312151 >>718312351 >>718321456 >>718323720
>>718311810
There's Undertale Green which was cancelled. I from reading the game document, it was kind of a good thing it was cancelled.
Reception for it was bad, as it was pretty much a cardboard cutout of undertale yellow.
There was barely any original elements other than cooking, and they even tried to have one of the characters be gay for Chujin for some reason.
It was kind of a mess.
Anonymous No.718312351 >>718312812
>>718312151
I guess you mean other Undertale Green, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3iWby4QI9c
Anonymous No.718312379 >>718312819
>>718312079
>it only includes fangames based on soul traits
Is there a list of ones not based on just soul types?
Anonymous No.718312794
This was a pretty good thread, hope the next one is just as good.
Goodnight everybody.
Anonymous No.718312812
>>718312351
There's several Undertale Green's but the one I was referring to, was made by Team_UndertaleGreen, and from what I understand was the biggest or most well known one at the time.
It had a twitter, Discord and everything.
Anonymous No.718312819 >>718325502
>>718312379
>Is there a list of ones not based on just soul types?
doubt it, 99% of all Undertale fangames are just Sans/Papyrus fights anyways so it wouldn't be as interesting
The only cancelled, non sans or soul fangame I can remember is Overtale, which had an absolutley insane scope, they wanted to make a 3d open world game with real time combat, it was cancelled two years after being announced

There was also Undertale Nihilism wich was about replaying Undertale after a genocide route or something
it was cancelled because the main dev was a pedo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwuzuiXb6Zg
Anonymous No.718312997 >>718313673
>>718312142
The discussion of cuckshit comics from reddit definitely does raise an eyebrow.
Anonymous No.718313673
>>718312997
There’s one guy trying to shill it and I try to ignore it
Anonymous No.718314985
The world would be a better place if all undertale players died.
Anonymous No.718315071 >>718316253
>>718270702
The entire game is a fucking chore to playthrough. The main idea was 'what if yellow was the protag, and what if he fought against flowey!" And nothing else.
Anonymous No.718315158
>>718296692
Not him but didn't read more than a word from you shitty ass justification of eating literal shit. Get your jeet ass back to your containment thread.
Anonymous No.718316036 >>718316308 >>718318161 >>718320945 >>718321167
>>718267360 (OP)
Hey so could anybody answer me why do normal deltarune threads get purged but this one (fangame) reaches 500 replies?
Anonymous No.718316253
>>718315071
you didnt play yellow.
Anonymous No.718316308
>>718316036
we got lucky, they hit us sometimes as well.
Anonymous No.718317162
Ohhhh I GOTTA get more Deltarune: Piss Edition I just GOTTA
Anonymous No.718318161
>>718316036
we have 1-2 threads a week so maybe whatever makes the janny tick says thats ok
Anonymous No.718318239 >>718318431 >>718318989 >>718319761 >>718325053
>>718267360 (OP)
is there a game with a more insufferable fanbase?
Anonymous No.718318431
>>718318239
Yes
Anonymous No.718318989
>>718318239
league
Anonymous No.718319304
>>718292420
Frisk is better than both.
Anonymous No.718319761
>>718318239
pokemon
Anonymous No.718320136
>>718271945
>Or an undertale style eroge to keep things on topic.
https://mydumbnamedev.itch.io/dating-start-astigmatism
Anonymous No.718320945 >>718321167
>>718316036
Jannie-sama felt merciful. He'll nuke our threads too when he feels like it.
Anonymous No.718321167
>>718320945
>>718316036
Janny can't just axe threads randomly, because with every axe he hands out 3 days explicitly with "Not video games" as a reason in hopes of banning all the DR threads from the board. But if he does that in a thread with 100 people posting, he can't defend that to the mods who actually get paid. So he has to only strike when the thread is relatively small and new.
Anonymous No.718321456 >>718325274
>>718312151
>There's Undertale Green which was cancelled. I from reading the game document, it was kind of a good thing it was cancelled.
Kek, was it awful OC cringe?
Anonymous No.718321867
Anonymous No.718322092 >>718322263 >>718322739
>>718311435
Maybe I could have the option to divide the big tile grid into a smaller pixel grid on objects. So I could have walk tiles, no walk tiles, and precision tiles which check based on a small object specific array of individual pixel sized tiles. Then I could just pick the individual walk and no walk effects for each pixel in the tile. That would probably be a lot less memory and storage efficient than AABB though.
Anonymous No.718322263 >>718322543 >>718324549
>>718322092
Fellow game dev: Try not to make this too complex. Games just use collision boxes for a reason. It's not the most elegant solution but it is the easiest and the way you decide upon walkable/unwalkable terrain is just putting a box there. Which most map editors like Gamemaker's already does for you.
Anonymous No.718322543 >>718325019
>>718322263
Oh and for the grid idea: Making a grid and storing it as a series of im/passable tiles would make mapping a bitch IMO
It's less memory efficient but putting a bunch of boxes that just state "The player can't move through these, stop every attempt at going to a grid section that intersects these boxes" would at least be easier and something that I think Tiled, the map editor, already does. But don't let me backseat you
Anonymous No.718322739
>>718322092
Nah wait I take that back, Tiled has a terrain brush on its tile layer you can use which just adds a flag to each tile if it's a corner tile, edge tile, impassable, so you just have to look for the flag on every tile.
https://doc.mapeditor.org/en/stable/manual/editing-tile-layers/#terrain-brush
Anonymous No.718323720 >>718325274
>>718312151
>Undertale Green
It's genuinely interesting how quickly that one crashed and burned. For reference, the game was announced in late February and cancelled in August, meaning it was only in development for less than 6 months.
Despite that, it was one of the most popular UT fangames on Twitter, trailing only behind UTY and surpassing the much older one by Migs. Several major UTY fanartists were also on board to work on it.
Undertale Green may just be an example of a project that had all the right people working for it but with terrible management.
Anonymous No.718324367 >>718325221
>>718289740
are you redoing chapter 1 and a bit of the writing? I remember the general consensus including from yourself that the weird route was super cringe
Anonymous No.718324549 >>718325361
>>718322263
The issue is that I have to do all this stuff myself. So even if gamemaker, godot, and unity automate all these processes, it doesn't matter because I'm not using any of those. So every thing that happens in my game I have to code, and every tool I need for the the engine I also have to code.

The math behind AABB collisions seems more complicated and has more room for failure than this tile, sub tile system. It also seems to enable pixel perfect collisions, while normal hitboxes don't. I'm probably missing some glaring reason why AABB boxes are better, but I still think this is worth looking into.
Anonymous No.718324626 >>718325221
>>718289740
>metroid x fusion
No way, it actually came out? Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
Anonymous No.718325019
>>718322543
>Oh and for the grid idea: Making a grid and storing it as a series of im/passable tiles would make mapping a bitch IMO
How so? The way I see it, all I have to do is define a four dimensional integer array, with the third dimension being the tile state, the fourth being the sprite used, and the other two being the tile's physical coordinates. Then I could use various numbers or keyboard characters to represent the various types of tiles and make the maps in a text editor. That's how people used to make Wolf3d maps.

If I need a visualizer, I could probably come up with a program that shows graphics instead of characters/numbers, and lets me place and remove tiles while being able to see them.
Anonymous No.718325053
>>718318239
yes, there is
but I won't tell you
Anonymous No.718325221
>>718324367
most of the chapter is getting a rewrite, I will also get a friend of mine that has some experience writing stuff to help me revise the dialogues so they should hopefully be better
also weird route is gone, but there will be a sort of alt path you can take from some decisions but the story will remain largely the same (might be disappointing to some but I think it will work better this way)

>>718324626
it came out earlier this week
if you don't want to suffer, play the version with gba controls
Anonymous No.718325274
>>718321456
The main monster companion(this llama girl) >>718323720 was pretty much Martlet 0.5, several of the characters were trans or some other weird gender thing and the main antagonist being gay for Chujin and getting rejected by him was a major plot point (pic related is said antagonist)
They recycled the integrity plot from UTY but this time it was with perseverance, aslo the neutral route ending was a word for word copy of UTY's neutral ending (this game had Flowey in it even tho it makes no sense timeline wise)
The game tried very hard to be a more mediocre Undertale Yellow
Anonymous No.718325361 >>718326167
>>718324549
just use a pixel grid for everything, then when entities/objects are moving (and only when they are moving), make them test the position ahead of them to see if any of their collision pixels intersect the area of the potential objects/tiles ahead (from my understanding AABB is just to see if point x,y is within "start x and y" and "end of bounding box x,y + start x,y")
you will have to pretty much think on how devs on the NES/SNES days were thinking when making something like you are doing
unless there is a library for collisions for wahtever system you are using
Anonymous No.718325398 >>718325982
>>718308004
> been working on a series of chatbots on chub for yellow seeing as all the other ones are shit
based, but you better had gotten my waifu done immediately bro
Anonymous No.718325502
>>718312819
the UN shit is funny to me because I still temper waking up one day to seeing the channel posting a pic of gook frisk
felt like a sign honestly
Anonymous No.718325643
>>718308004
i want to see you go back to the AI general and not shit up this thread with that crap.
whats with the sudden surge of AI niggers here anyways?
Anonymous No.718325824 >>718325982
>>718308004
honeydew shopkeeper, my beloved.
Anonymous No.718325982 >>718326120 >>718327303
>>718325398
already done
>https://chub.ai/characters/biguswigus/martlet-deltarune-yellow-e552fadef62d

>>718325824
lora of her already exists
>https://civitai.com/models/1700330/honeydew-shopkeeper-undertale-yellow-lora-or-by-quazar
Anonymous No.718326120
>>718325982
that ain’t zenith though.
Anonymous No.718326167 >>718326971
>>718325361
>unless there is a library for collisions for wahtever system you are using
All I've got is a basic sound library (it can do wav, midi, and pcm sounds) and a simple graphics library. Everything else I have to do myself.
Anonymous No.718326781 >>718327013 >>718327013
>>718308004
not UTY related but if you could make an accurate DELTARUNE temmie or a regular kanako (i know about the new one, talking about uty's kanako) that would be awesome
Anonymous No.718326971 >>718328361
>>718326167
my idea at least would be to store all collision data into a struct containing their AABB positions (start point and extends) and their parent object, then add all collisions into two arrays, one for tiles and another array for entities/objects, then when something is testing for collisions, to run through said arrays in a for loop and try to find if the collision pixels of the object requesting collisions is intersecting anything, and return the object + type of collision from the other, from then you can do whatever you want (like making it act as a solid wall or just a trigger for another function)
Anonymous No.718327013 >>718327303 >>718328865
>>718326781
>>718326781
>deltarune temmie
already done
https://civitai.com/models/1851761/temmie-deltarune

>regular kanako
maybe, there's already two half decent ones available
ill consider it
Anonymous No.718327303
>>718327013
>>718325982
>>718283960
This thread is already at bump limit so lemme ask, how do you use loras? I loaded them in koboldcpp but don't know how to make the ai generate using them
Do they all need specific models?
Anonymous No.718328160
bye thread
Anonymous No.718328361 >>718328546 >>718328612
>>718326971
>struct
I don't think FreeBASIC has those. I can define custom types though, so I should be able to get the same effect with a custom data type.
Anonymous No.718328546 >>718328612
>>718328361
structs, classes, whatever it is, as long as you can store that custom data in an array, it will do
Anonymous No.718328612
>>718328361
>>718328546
could even be a string array and you have to manually convert it to the relevant data types if your language really doesnt have anything
Anonymous No.718328865
>>718327013
>regular kanako
i should specify, illustrious